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Speaker 2: your purpose and what's truly possible for you. And today's
Speaker 2: conversation is one you're going to want to feel. It's
Speaker 2: about alignment. And today I'm joined by doctor Kyle hulsebas author, speaker,
Speaker 2: human potential specialist, and a third generation chiropractor who's helping
Speaker 2: people rethink health alignment and what it really means to
Speaker 2: live well. And what we're diving into today is something
Speaker 2: so many people are experiencing right now, feeling stuck, feeling off,
Speaker 2: feeling disconnected and not really knowing why.
Speaker 3: So welcome to the show, Doctor Kyle.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'm grateful to be here and
Speaker 1: to be able to share a little bit about wellness, health,
Speaker 1: human potential.
Speaker 2: Oh, let me tell you, I get really excited about
Speaker 2: these conversations because there's so much information. But it's when
Speaker 2: we actually take it in and maybe hear it a
Speaker 2: different way and put it into action.
Speaker 3: That things really start changing for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's and you know, just having grown up
Speaker 1: under the auspices of a chiropractor who grew up under
Speaker 1: a chiropractor who you know, learned chiropractic back in the
Speaker 1: nineteen forties, you know, sort of has this real strong
Speaker 1: philosophical background. It's even one of the things we do
Speaker 1: a lot when we educate people and take in new
Speaker 1: patients is what I say in the office is really
Speaker 1: ten percent of what I do in the office is
Speaker 1: adjust your spine and take care of your health. But
Speaker 1: the ninety percent of what I do, because I'm a doctor,
Speaker 1: is to educate you, to inform you, to empower you
Speaker 1: in this idea of health. And so one thing where
Speaker 1: we become fairly skilled at early on is how to
Speaker 1: reframe health so that people understand it. And you know,
Speaker 1: there might be a little bit of sarcasm that shows
Speaker 1: up in the profession that way, but that could come
Speaker 1: from the founders. It's like somebody comes in and says, well,
Speaker 1: I have my knee hurts, and I go okay, and
Speaker 1: they go it's probably from running, and I'll go great,
Speaker 1: did only your knee go running?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I love. It really is fascinating.
Speaker 2: Where maybe you're feeling the pain but it's coming from
Speaker 2: a different place, and how so much is connected to
Speaker 2: our spine and how chiropractic work really does help us
Speaker 2: to heal and it's not just about the alignment of
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 3: And so I want to bring that up.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that you did grow up
Speaker 2: in a family of chiropractors, right, deeply rooted in this
Speaker 2: chiropractic care and health.
Speaker 3: So what did that early exposure teach.
Speaker 2: You about the human body and about life and about
Speaker 2: what most people don't realize until much later in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me I'll show you a little bit
Speaker 1: about the origin. Because my grandfather came back from World
Speaker 1: War Two as money gis did kind of looking for direction. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know the circumstances around him meeting my grandmother,
Speaker 1: but they met, they got married. My grandmother had a
Speaker 1: lot of health problems. She had a lot of digestive
Speaker 1: issues all the time, and at the time, the best
Speaker 1: place I think you could go was like the Surgeons
Speaker 1: Association in Chicago, and they said live with it. You know,
Speaker 1: you daily had aches, constant gut problems. Live with it.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that was their solution at the time.
Speaker 1: Not that they were bad, it's just that they didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot. Yeah, I mean they just they that
Speaker 1: was where it was. And he was originally from Iowa,
Speaker 1: so they they stopped on the way to Iowa down
Speaker 1: in Davenport, Iowa on the Mississippi River is part of
Speaker 1: the Quad Cities, which is where the original Chiropractic College was,
Speaker 1: the Palmer School at Chiropractic at the time. And you know,
Speaker 1: I and again I don't know the circumstances, but I
Speaker 1: have this I have this sort of thing in my
Speaker 1: head that says, you know, come come see doctor Palmer
Speaker 1: School at Chiropractic and be cared of this ale. And
Speaker 1: because he had a radio station, the first radio station
Speaker 1: was to the Mississippi and somewhere in there, he might
Speaker 1: have just said, you know what, we got to lose.
Speaker 1: And they went into his school. And my grandmother was adjusted,
Speaker 1: and she told me for many years she goes whenever
Speaker 1: she complained, She goes, I don't know if I should
Speaker 1: really complain, because since that day I've never had a headache,
Speaker 1: And her digestive problems cleared up. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: it turned out she was having fertility issues and she
Speaker 1: was able to conceive after that, and and then and
Speaker 1: then had my uncle, and shortly after they graduated. So
Speaker 1: I grew up with this idea of health and the spine,
Speaker 1: and there was so much more potential in there. It's
Speaker 1: just that there's interference and all we got to do
Speaker 1: is remove it. So and the whole concept behind chiropractic
Speaker 1: is it's simplicity. And even even the way we run
Speaker 1: our business is keep it simple. It's, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't have to get into all this complexity when I
Speaker 1: when I speak to businesses, I look and I go,
Speaker 1: don't make it too complex. Uh, you know, we just
Speaker 1: when when you adjust, it's a very small, simple thing
Speaker 1: that goes on. So he he was deeply rooted in
Speaker 1: the philosophy because chiropractic is the only healthcare profession founded
Speaker 1: out of philosophy that the body has an innate healing ability,
Speaker 1: and he raised his three sons that way. They all
Speaker 1: went to chiropractic college, and my dad was probably a
Speaker 1: little more of the philosopher of the bunch, to be fair,
Speaker 1: and also a bit more of the scientists of the bunch.
Speaker 1: But then when I was at school at the University
Speaker 1: of Iowa, he was down in Palmer again doing a
Speaker 1: postgraduate program for chiropractic philosophy. So I got raised. Anytime
Speaker 1: I would run into stuff, it would be like people
Speaker 1: would tell me, oh, you need to take this, or
Speaker 1: you need to take this, and I'd go, well, but
Speaker 1: why and everybody take this?
Speaker 3: You mean like a drug?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, oh, well, you know it
Speaker 1: takes a badville, or you should go you should go
Speaker 1: to the doctor, and don't you go to the doctor.
Speaker 1: And I go, well, I go to my dad.
Speaker 2: So those are more of the band aids, not getting
Speaker 2: to what's actually happening within the body, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I and I've got damage to my spine.
Speaker 1: So fortunately my dad was a chiropractor. But you know,
Speaker 1: I distinctly remember being like nine, nine or ten years
Speaker 1: old at my friend's house and I'm going, man, I
Speaker 1: got a headache, and his dad goes, well, I have
Speaker 1: some advil or an aspirin and I go, what's that?
Speaker 1: And he was like horrified, like, how do you not
Speaker 1: know what aspirin is? I go, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: know what's aspern He goes, well, that's what you take
Speaker 1: when you have headaches, And I go, oh, I just
Speaker 1: usually just my dad adjusts me, and then I don't
Speaker 1: have a headache.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I took as and I couldn't swallow it because
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at taking pills, so I shoot it,
Speaker 1: which anybody's chewing aspirin, thouse it's a little better. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's That's not that I don't take medications
Speaker 1: when I needed to get over stuff. But my thought
Speaker 1: process has always been if it doesn't, if I can't
Speaker 1: sort of bring him back to how's the internal doing that,
Speaker 1: I have a hard sort of logic problem with it.
Speaker 3: Well, let me.
Speaker 2: Ask you, because I've heard many stories. You know, young
Speaker 2: young kids have these digestive problems. They finally get aligned
Speaker 2: and they don't have the problems anymore.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times we think.
Speaker 2: Of chiropractors of just fixing the pain in our hip
Speaker 2: or our back, whatever the case may be. What is
Speaker 2: that connection? How is it so connected to the other
Speaker 2: parts of the body. And if we are going in
Speaker 2: for this this alignment, how is it helping these other parts.
Speaker 1: So we'll give you the basic rundown. Your brain's main
Speaker 1: objective with you physically is to keep these trillions of
Speaker 1: cells running in coordination, in harmony all the time. It
Speaker 1: is continuously working to adapt you to the inputs that
Speaker 1: it gets and the great stresses that are on it,
Speaker 1: which you know on Earth is gravity, and we've got gravity,
Speaker 1: and we've got air pressure, and we've got barometric pressure
Speaker 1: and we've got That's why people say, oh, the weather changed,
Speaker 1: and you know, my cough came back, or my knee aches,
Speaker 1: and your body's working to adapt you to these things.
Speaker 1: Your brain is getting this information and it's its main
Speaker 1: communication ability is on your spinal cord, and so it's
Speaker 1: sent it's sent out basically roots from itself down as
Speaker 1: a spinal cord, and from there it branches off individual
Speaker 1: nerves that go between the bones of the spine. That's
Speaker 1: why you have movable vertebra between those bones, and they
Speaker 1: go out and they connect to every single organ in
Speaker 1: the body, every single one. It can't be every cell
Speaker 1: because you can't have nerves flowing through your bloodstream. That
Speaker 1: would get confusing. But but it does. But but like
Speaker 1: for instance, with with blood cells, it does go to
Speaker 1: the bone marrow and say produce more. It does go
Speaker 1: to the spleen and say take these away. It does
Speaker 1: go to you know, your your thymus and say produce
Speaker 1: more here, and your thyroid to create energy, and your
Speaker 1: digestive tract to do this, and your heart to do it.
Speaker 1: It's constantly talking to all these and it has great
Speaker 1: automatic processes that it's created to handle situations. But at
Speaker 1: the same time it's it's still maintaining this constant continuous control.
Speaker 1: And as it has nerves that go here and create
Speaker 1: what we call motor actions out, it has also sensory
Speaker 1: ones taking all the information going back in. So it's
Speaker 1: a two way continuous thing. And when we've had like
Speaker 1: functional MRIs of the brain, you can see all the
Speaker 1: different areas light up, and that's where we see creativity
Speaker 1: come from. Movement and that's where we see you know,
Speaker 1: people will go out for walks and it stimulates your brain.
Speaker 1: That's why we want little kids to to move and
Speaker 1: do stuff, not sit and not move on screens, because
Speaker 1: that's not stimulating the brain. And not that the screens
Speaker 1: don't help too, but the the you know, there's so
Speaker 1: much which going out all the time, and the brain
Speaker 1: constantly wants input, so it's constantly so the only organ
Speaker 1: system of the body entirely incased and bone, even your
Speaker 1: heart and your lungs aren't entirely encased in these ribs
Speaker 1: is your brain. It's it's in a cranium and your
Speaker 1: spinal cord mostly surrounded by these vertebra. And what we find,
Speaker 1: in a very simplistic way is if these two vertebra
Speaker 1: misalign and lock together and stop moving properly, there's going
Speaker 1: to start to be interference in that communication system. And
Speaker 1: we can get into all the neurophysiology and everything like that.
Speaker 3: But it may go over a lot of people's heads.
Speaker 1: Into it, and I don't go over it with many people,
Speaker 1: but you know, suffice to say, and we've got all
Speaker 1: the scientific reasoning behind it. It starts to interfere with
Speaker 1: this communication process. So imagine it. Imagine it very simply,
Speaker 1: like you take your cell phone and we we put
Speaker 1: we put something around it, tinfoil around it. It's still
Speaker 1: going in the war, but suddenly you're going to have
Speaker 1: the you know, we're going to get a message through,
Speaker 1: but we're going to miss stuff, right, So the brain
Speaker 1: stops getting great information, but it's still telling everything what
Speaker 1: to do. And eventually you get to a point where
Speaker 1: it tells something what to do, but it hasn't been
Speaker 1: properly adapting, and so finally it just gives. And then
Speaker 1: you have a symptom. And your symptom might be collitis
Speaker 1: and gut cramps, or your symptom is suddenly your back.
Speaker 1: Your back goes out because those muscles haven't maintained well,
Speaker 1: or your shoulder hurts when you're trying to throw something
Speaker 1: because that shoulder structure hasn't been maintaining well. Or suddenly
Speaker 1: your you're you know, you start to get sudden hair
Speaker 1: loss because your your thigh roide hasn't been maintained well.
Speaker 1: And we get all these different little things. So when
Speaker 1: you come to a chiropractor, the reason we focus on
Speaker 1: your spine and the reason we talk about your pain
Speaker 1: is we know if we adjust these areas of misalignment
Speaker 1: and restore motion, it removes this interference and it allows
Speaker 1: this communication system back to one hundred percent. The reason
Speaker 1: you come back more than once is restoring the communication.
Speaker 1: Anybody in a relationship knows this. Just because you talked
Speaker 1: after the fight doesn't mean that it's all one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: You still have to work to get it there. Your
Speaker 1: brain now has to rebuild, and part of that is
Speaker 1: even in the spine where we adjust that, we're going
Speaker 1: to continuously put motion in there on a schedule in
Speaker 1: order to get it to repair to the point where
Speaker 1: you don't need us to do that. And if it
Speaker 1: was easy at self adjusting, we just teach all the
Speaker 1: kindergarteners to do it right, you know. Unfortunately, because it's
Speaker 1: back here and not up here, we need somebody's aid.
Speaker 1: So we do a lot of schooling just to be
Speaker 1: able to understand the motion of it and to be
Speaker 1: able to adjust it properly for any type of spinal
Speaker 1: bone type that we have. Right, we see over a
Speaker 1: thousand conditions in my office.
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing, So let's talk about when someone is out
Speaker 2: of alignment, what does that really look like in real
Speaker 2: life and what are some of the signs that we
Speaker 2: may be ignoring or we normalize.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's amazing, what will normalize. I've had
Speaker 1: people come in that have just had psiatic pain for
Speaker 1: eight years and they're just they're used to it, you know,
Speaker 1: they limp. And the unfortunate part when they see me
Speaker 1: is when I start to adjust them, that pain has
Speaker 1: to come back in order to heal. And I explain
Speaker 1: that to everybody. I go, listen, this this, this is
Speaker 1: going to light up a little bit because it's never
Speaker 1: really repaired and it's kind of like your brain shoved
Speaker 1: it to the back, kind of like the you know,
Speaker 1: your brain is good at ignoring stuff, like you put
Speaker 1: your clothes on. It quickly forgets the feeling of your
Speaker 1: clothes until you move suddenly or have a restriction. You know,
Speaker 1: it'll just put that in the back. So because it says, well,
Speaker 1: we can't do anything about it anyway, and if we're
Speaker 1: constantly in pain, we're just going to go crazy. So
Speaker 1: we'll stop right now. Here's here's the interesting misconception people
Speaker 1: think when they come in and I X ray people
Speaker 1: before I adjust them, and I'll show you the misaligned areas.
Speaker 1: In chiropractic, we call it a subplexation, if you want
Speaker 1: the fancy words, which means it's not dislocated, but it's
Speaker 1: misaligned and it's not moving properly in relation above them
Speaker 1: below and has these nerve problems and we correct these.
Speaker 1: We adjust these with our hands manually, which is what
Speaker 1: chiro means in chiropractic. And we're trying to put motion
Speaker 1: back into them. But people say it feels like it's
Speaker 1: out and I put it in, But if I X
Speaker 1: ray you again three minutes later, it's going to look
Speaker 1: the same. It can't change that quick. And I have
Speaker 1: people that after twenty years still have the same misalignments.
Speaker 1: So we talk about we're going to align the spine,
Speaker 1: which is true in one Why however, you're you're always
Speaker 1: it means you're human in you're undergravity and you're on
Speaker 1: in your live your your body just needs care. And
Speaker 1: it's the same way that that really you're wise, that
Speaker 1: eating well and putting good fuel in you're wise. It
Speaker 1: moving every day and doing some form of exercise, you're wise.
Speaker 1: And stimulating your brain through through learning, you're wise, and
Speaker 1: you know, not being angry at everybody all day or
Speaker 1: or figuring out why you are type of thing you're
Speaker 1: You're always going to have something there that you take
Speaker 1: care of. When people come and they and they see
Speaker 1: us regularly, it's not because they have to. It's not
Speaker 1: because everything is going to come back if they don't.
Speaker 1: It's more that I'm just they're they're just kind of
Speaker 1: adding me in as as part of their their maintenance
Speaker 1: for their overall health and well being. So when we
Speaker 1: we have these when somebody comes in and they have
Speaker 1: what we call an acute problem, it's their symptom is
Speaker 1: shown up, either for the first time, or it's really
Speaker 1: gotten bad for once, or it's something you want to
Speaker 1: you know, you're going, man, I got to go do
Speaker 1: something good. He's giving you a sign and just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, for instance, I've had people
Speaker 1: that come in they move, you know about like this
Speaker 1: where they're where their head doesn't move, and I go,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did, and I go, you know,
Speaker 1: we can say the straw broke the camel's back, right.
Speaker 1: You just finally had enough pressure on it. It kept
Speaker 1: trying to adapt, trying to adapt, and finally it said,
Speaker 1: while we're going to freeze all these muscles, so you
Speaker 1: stop making it worse. And you can either live that
Speaker 1: way or you can lay down for eight days and
Speaker 1: do nothing. You can come see me and and it's
Speaker 1: still going to take time to heal, but we're going
Speaker 1: to try to heal it to a place where you're
Speaker 1: not having a breakdown that way, that's that's the signs
Speaker 1: you get. If I find people are getting chronic digestive issues,
Speaker 1: I go, why wouldn't we want to take a look
Speaker 1: at where the brain talks to your digestive tract in
Speaker 1: multiple different areas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, and it's also going to affect you mentally.
Speaker 1: It does when you Yeah, Doctor B. J. Palmer had
Speaker 1: a quote we use. I keep it up in the
Speaker 1: office because I really love it, and it was you
Speaker 1: never know how far reaching something you say, think, or
Speaker 1: do today will affect the lives of millions tomorrow. And
Speaker 1: in his way of looking at it, because he adjusted spines,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, one adjustment on one condition, one
Speaker 1: spinal bone, one time, with one individual, that individual's destiny,
Speaker 1: their potential, the way they work and operate with the
Speaker 1: world is going to change forever. So if you're dealing
Speaker 1: with just constant chronic health issues, yeah, that's going to
Speaker 1: affect your work, your money, your spirituality, your ability to learn,
Speaker 1: your marriage, your kid's relationship, your parents relationship, your friend's relationship, socially,
Speaker 1: and then your physical health in just every aspect of
Speaker 1: your life. So one adjustment is not going to carre
Speaker 1: you of all your problems, but it is going to
Speaker 1: change what's going on. So I always tell people, I go,
Speaker 1: at least one time is better than no time. However, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, can can we go out? I
Speaker 1: always say, they go. How do you affect the world?
Speaker 1: I say, I adjust your kids, and your kids are
Speaker 1: going to interact with the world differently.
Speaker 2: But what's a myth out there about chiropractors, because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of fear.
Speaker 1: Well, my favorite myth is that, you know, some of
Speaker 1: our doctor was telling people that that he'd never seen
Speaker 1: a neck problem that wasn't caused by a chiropractor. And
Speaker 1: my response to that guy was, that's amazing. How did
Speaker 1: the car accident get caused? Like did the chiropractor run
Speaker 1: into him? That the biggest myth is that is it
Speaker 1: adjusting a cervical spine is dangerous, and that that myth
Speaker 1: has gone back thousands of years. This is not new.
Speaker 1: We train very in depth. It's probably dangerous if you
Speaker 1: try to do it to your spouse, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: that's probably assault. At that point. But the we started.
Speaker 1: We start day one learning how to feel the spine
Speaker 1: all areas of the spine. We learn about the motion
Speaker 1: of the spine. We go through three years of very
Speaker 1: in depth physical training to be able to do this safely.
Speaker 1: The way we're taught is we're taught to adjust very
Speaker 1: gently and then also in different ways with some more
Speaker 1: force every type of spine. I see people with very
Speaker 1: bad osteoporosis, we take care of people with bone cancer,
Speaker 1: and we have a dozens of different ways of safely
Speaker 1: adjusting all areas of the spine. Chiropractic is one of
Speaker 1: the safest forms of health care in the world. And
Speaker 1: if you really want to know that that's true, you
Speaker 1: look at our insurance rates, which are the lowest in
Speaker 1: the world because we're that safe. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: but if you're going to your buddy or if you've
Speaker 1: got like in physical therapists do learn a little bit manipulation,
Speaker 1: but they don't train in it, neither to Chiropractice train
Speaker 1: in physical therapy except for class we take. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you've got you've got other people in Europe, for example,
Speaker 1: you have some uh, some mds. They take a weekend
Speaker 1: course in chiropractic and I go, well, that that is
Speaker 1: unsafe because you don't know what you're doing. You didn't
Speaker 1: it's yes, we'll do.
Speaker 3: Some homework, right, do some homework.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's but it's like it's like it's like
Speaker 1: putting a black BELLLT on in karate after you watch
Speaker 1: the video of of Bruce Lee and saying I'm that
Speaker 1: good now, and you know he trained for years to
Speaker 1: get to that high level of practice. That's the biggest myth,
Speaker 1: uh is the safety. But you know, make certain when
Speaker 1: you go, you're going to somebody that's not sort of
Speaker 1: this fly by night h somebody's trained, they graduating. Obviously,
Speaker 1: nobody's going to get a license in the United States
Speaker 1: without graduating a reputable school that's accredited on training and
Speaker 1: that they're going to assess you. They're not just going
Speaker 1: to say, you know, let's go.
Speaker 2: So what about somebody out there that is going through something?
Speaker 2: But they they're not admitting that something is wrong, right,
Speaker 2: They're not getting vulnerable, they're not actually looking for the help.
Speaker 2: How can they switch their mindset and admit that they
Speaker 2: need the help?
Speaker 1: You know that that's that's a tough question. To answer,
Speaker 1: because the best example I can give you is, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll get I'll get a you know, one patient in
Speaker 1: and they'll say, my spouse really needs this, and and
Speaker 1: they're that individual that I don't need doctors. I don't
Speaker 1: need you know, I can figure it out. And and
Speaker 1: I just look and I go, you know, maybe seeing
Speaker 1: how well you do, they'll decide to come in one,
Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes I say, we'll bring them in
Speaker 1: so they can see what we're doing with you. And
Speaker 1: I don't even explain to them about how they should
Speaker 1: get looked at or anything. I just let them know
Speaker 1: this is what we do. And there's just education. I
Speaker 1: get plenty of people that say, yeah, but it's not
Speaker 1: for me to can. I go, okay, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't try to force it, because eventually I find that
Speaker 1: that the majority of those people end up coming in
Speaker 1: and they go, I can't take it anymore. Do you
Speaker 1: have a solution for me? And I sit down and
Speaker 1: educate them, and I go, let's make sure this is
Speaker 1: the solution for you. One reason we're doctors is we're
Speaker 1: trained to see, if you you know, to get you
Speaker 1: to people other than us, if it's necessary and we
Speaker 1: help with that. So you know, the way you deal
Speaker 1: with that is I find the more you like pester
Speaker 1: and hammer people and say you should, you must, you
Speaker 1: need to. You know a lot of times that type
Speaker 1: of individual they kind of go stop it and they
Speaker 1: get more resistant. But I like, I've got a brother
Speaker 1: that you know, I just say every year I said,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this workshop, it'd be I think you'd get
Speaker 1: a lot out of it. If you're ever interested, just
Speaker 1: let me know. And he says no to me every year.
Speaker 1: But every year I offer it. And I don't offer
Speaker 1: it with expectations. I don't offer it saying you need
Speaker 1: to do it. I just hey, it's there. If you're
Speaker 1: ever ready, I'm going to the chiropractor if you want
Speaker 1: to take along today.
Speaker 2: That's what I do, and that's how I live my
Speaker 2: life because I help people around sobriety and changing the
Speaker 2: conversation around that topic. I'm over ten years sober, and
Speaker 2: you just lead by example, keep putting the information out
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Speaker 2: We are here with doctor Kyle and we are talking
Speaker 2: about chiropractic work and how it really does change our lives.
Speaker 2: And I want to just give you a quick story
Speaker 2: about myself. I lived with pain in my neck for
Speaker 2: well over a year, and I kept going and getting massages,
Speaker 2: thinking it was like a muscular thing. And of course,
Speaker 2: right after I would have the massage, the pain would
Speaker 2: come back. I couldn't sleep well, and I finally acquiesced
Speaker 2: and went to a chiropractor and I found out what
Speaker 2: was going on, and I went for six weeks and
Speaker 2: I haven't had the pain since. So it's I don't
Speaker 2: you know, like we were talking about, just like living
Speaker 2: with that pain for so long. Like my husband was
Speaker 2: floored because he's one that goes to the doctor right away.
Speaker 2: I'm someone that just thinks it's going to go away
Speaker 2: miraculously one day, you know. So I found out there
Speaker 2: was something much more going on, and I was very grateful,
Speaker 2: very grateful to have finally acquiesced and got the help
Speaker 2: that I needed.
Speaker 3: It is life changing and.
Speaker 2: I and even through social media now you see just
Speaker 2: the help for young people, babies.
Speaker 3: Animals, like.
Speaker 2: There is a real power when it comes to the
Speaker 2: chiropractic work and the information system that goes through the
Speaker 2: spine and how it.
Speaker 3: Moves and provides information so throughout our bodies.
Speaker 2: So you're speaking of movements, You're you're looking and are
Speaker 2: leading a powerful movement around rethinking life after forty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and listen, when I hit forty, I thought my life
Speaker 2: was over. So I'm fifty six now I know it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But tell us what inspired.
Speaker 3: That for you?
Speaker 1: So the forty over forty is the name of what
Speaker 1: the little series we created, and it was it was
Speaker 1: this interesting conversation I do a mastermind. My one friend
Speaker 1: and the mastermind. We were sitting here chatting one day
Speaker 1: He just goes, hey, what's the average age of people
Speaker 1: that come into your office patients that come into your
Speaker 1: office that do long term care, you know, because usually
Speaker 1: you get your younger people. I just want to quick fix.
Speaker 1: I want this because what are the people that come
Speaker 1: in and say, I really want to change my health.
Speaker 1: I really want to, you know, do this and figure
Speaker 1: out something I can do in the long term. And
Speaker 1: I go, when I thought about it, and we just
Speaker 1: kind of looked at some numbers. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: probably around forty five to fifty five years old. Those
Speaker 1: are the people sort of ready to change. And he says,
Speaker 1: so right, you know, you kind of hit a point
Speaker 1: where you go great. I mean I have plenty of
Speaker 1: individuals that have kind of gone down your journey a
Speaker 1: little bit, that started that in their forties. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I looked at it. I go, that's really interesting. And
Speaker 1: then we had this whole you know, Forbes does at
Speaker 1: thirty over thirty, We'll do the forty over forty. I've
Speaker 1: already had enough people to say, is that you need
Speaker 1: forty tips because it's this much for happening. I go, actually, know,
Speaker 1: it's just about you know, I presented forty suggestions after
Speaker 1: the age of forty. You know, get your grab bag
Speaker 1: out and mix and match which ones are the most
Speaker 1: inspiring to you that are going to help empower you
Speaker 1: and your health journey after forty and we span span
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I don't it's not just physical. It's
Speaker 1: it's about your relationships. It's about your your leadership and
Speaker 1: your friends groups. It's about your money, it's about your job,
Speaker 1: it's about your learning, it's about your relationships spiritually with
Speaker 1: the universe and the world. Go we dive into all
Speaker 1: these different things because health is such a huge dynamic.
Speaker 1: In the old definition, health is a state of wholeness.
Speaker 1: It goes way back fifteen hundred years in Old English
Speaker 1: and literally the word meant condition of whole being, where
Speaker 1: wealth actually then his condition of well being or wellness.
Speaker 1: So and wealth is more than money, as I also
Speaker 1: teach people. So we came up with that. And you know,
Speaker 1: I say, the forty tips is sort of arbitrary because
Speaker 1: it works well. But when I started to explore this,
Speaker 1: I found that my goodness, because I love Forbes thirty
Speaker 1: under thirty and reading about these individuals, but they're the outliers,
Speaker 1: they're the unique ones, I said, the over forty is
Speaker 1: the average when people arrive. And I started to look,
Speaker 1: and I go, who's done great things after forty? And
Speaker 1: I want my goodness? The first person that came up
Speaker 1: was Mark Twain, and he'd done writing, but he didn't
Speaker 1: have you know, Tom Sawyer didn't come out un till
Speaker 1: he was in his forties. He didn't have Huck Finn
Speaker 1: till he was fifty. He did invents unders until he
Speaker 1: was in his late forties, or do most of his
Speaker 1: great writings that we know him for until then you go,
Speaker 1: my goodness. But one of the quotes that really helped
Speaker 1: me was Dante Aligeri from the very opening canto of
Speaker 1: the Divine Comedy of the Inferno. In one translation, when
Speaker 1: midway through my life's journey, I found myself astray on
Speaker 1: a dark road. I'm misquoting it, but you know, I thought,
Speaker 1: this man and then I looked him up, and I said,
Speaker 1: he started to write that of forty three. It took
Speaker 1: him ten years. He finished at fifty three. He's great
Speaker 1: his life's work about his journey to sort of find
Speaker 1: his spiritual connection and to meet his hero, and created
Speaker 1: his master work in Tuscan Italian and which saved the language. Actually,
Speaker 1: but the the you know, I go, I go, my goodness,
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was seven hundred years ago
Speaker 1: he did this. And then I started to look and
Speaker 1: I go Sam Samuel L. Jackson, the actor. He didn't
Speaker 1: really have his first leading role in Loaded Weapon one
Speaker 1: until he was fifty. I mean, you sit there to go,
Speaker 1: but it's Sam Jackson. And I started to see that
Speaker 1: as I went through business and I went through financial
Speaker 1: you know, Warren Buffett was a great investor and he
Speaker 1: had his whole patience thing, but ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: his wealth has been made after the age of fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So these are all famous people, right, But I
Speaker 2: mean I can relate to this exactly. You know, it's
Speaker 2: I didn't start my healing journey and growing in all
Speaker 2: facets of my life until you know, I was forty five,
Speaker 2: and now I do my greatest work and I'm fifty six,
Speaker 2: and you know, two books that have come out and
Speaker 2: trying to help others in the areas that I've learned
Speaker 2: in through my healing journey. And you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot that happens. You know, we've gone through through life
Speaker 2: and maybe there's a lot of pain or circumstances we've
Speaker 2: gone through, and we get to a certain place in
Speaker 2: our life where we make a choice to change and
Speaker 2: not just think about ourselves physically, but in all the
Speaker 2: pillars that you're speaking of correct and that that's where
Speaker 2: you start to create the real change in your life.
Speaker 2: So I think it's incredible that you are helping others
Speaker 2: to do that, and not in ten years, but in
Speaker 2: a shorter amount of time.
Speaker 1: Well, and doctor Carl Jung. The quote I had from
Speaker 1: doctor Yung was life really does begin at forty. Everything
Speaker 1: else is just you know, it's experienced. You're trying to build,
Speaker 1: and that's that's where we look back. I have a
Speaker 1: great patience. He's just you know, a regular walk of life.
Speaker 1: He was a machinist and he came in one day.
Speaker 1: He had some circumstances in life and he goes, he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm quitting, I'm leaving. I'm going back to school. I go,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? He says, I'm I
Speaker 1: want to go in a early Cahood development psychology. And
Speaker 1: I go great, And he and his wife talked and
Speaker 1: and he you know, now he's now he's a brilliant
Speaker 1: licensed grief counselor and and and gone to I'm very
Speaker 1: much a friend of mine. And then his wife just
Speaker 1: went through the same thing. She was getting laid off,
Speaker 1: and they're, you know, their children are about to graduate
Speaker 1: high school. And he just said, why why are we
Speaker 1: staying here when when we're not getting the gratitude we
Speaker 1: want and these are the things we've always loved and
Speaker 1: wanted to do. We're going to take a hit here,
Speaker 1: but it's it's going to go farther there. And and
Speaker 1: I've I've seen that many times, seen people come into
Speaker 1: my office and get adjusted and they God, that's been
Speaker 1: holding me back for for twenty years. And I think,
Speaker 1: now I'm ready to kind of go live my life.
Speaker 1: And you know, suddenly their relationship is better. Suddenly they're
Speaker 1: they're going to go start their own little startup on
Speaker 1: the side. And not just forty. It's you know, I've
Speaker 1: seen that in twenty year olds and that, but forty
Speaker 1: sort of a majority. And I looked, and I go,
Speaker 1: we tend to have life stability of forty. You know,
Speaker 1: you tend to kind of know where you're going to
Speaker 1: be in your job, your relationships there you sort of
Speaker 1: know your your spiritual path, you've learned, you're looking to
Speaker 1: learn more. Maybe your finances may be stable, your your
Speaker 1: your friends groups you know, you know you're on the
Speaker 1: bowling league, or you've got your softball team, or your kids,
Speaker 1: you know, all all your friends, your children's friends' parents,
Speaker 1: that your groups of. And and he come into my
Speaker 1: office because you go, this is the lacking piece. And
Speaker 1: then I because I like to educate people, I also
Speaker 1: try to inform them that in this piece, when we complete,
Speaker 1: it is going to help bring the circle full around
Speaker 1: and allow you to finally just you know, I call
Speaker 1: it a I call it a springboard. I call it
Speaker 1: a stepping stone, not a not a midlife crisis. It's
Speaker 1: a midlife you know. It's just it's midway through your
Speaker 1: life's journey. Now where do you want the journey to go?
Speaker 1: That's that's where people get confused. So I just try
Speaker 1: these see where it takes me.
Speaker 3: I'll have a little rapid fire with you.
Speaker 2: Right Nowtiful, what's one habit that someone can start today?
Speaker 1: You breathe? You know the there's no order to my
Speaker 1: forty tips, but I start I start them with breathe,
Speaker 1: and I sit in there. We breathe all day, but
Speaker 1: we don't really think about it. And I tell people,
Speaker 1: I go, just take three to five deep abdominal breaths
Speaker 1: every day. Do it in the morning, and do it
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. Do it when you're angry, do it
Speaker 1: when you're in traffic. Just just breathe and focus on
Speaker 1: actually breathing through your whole body and just sort of
Speaker 1: slowing yourself down and then go back and approach whatever's
Speaker 1: going on. That's something most parents know, us with teenagers,
Speaker 1: so it's that's that's what.
Speaker 3: It's almost crazy.
Speaker 2: It calms your nervous system, calms that crazy, right, and.
Speaker 1: It calms everybody around you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can respond instead of react when you
Speaker 2: do take it that pause.
Speaker 3: What's one belief people need to let go of?
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't say there's any one belief you need
Speaker 1: to let go of. I would say it would be wise.
Speaker 1: One of my tips is look at your belief systems
Speaker 1: and see where they come from, and see if they
Speaker 1: still serve you, and if they don't, let them go
Speaker 1: and see if it's truly your belief or it's somebody
Speaker 1: else's or some authorities.
Speaker 3: I know we're so programmed right.
Speaker 1: We hypnotize ourselves.
Speaker 3: What does being aligned actually feel like?
Speaker 1: Being aligned? I'm going to use Bruce Lee here. He said,
Speaker 1: to be an equilibrium is to be more or less
Speaker 1: at rest. So in order to move forward and grow,
Speaker 1: we actually have to get out of equilibrium in order
Speaker 1: to move. So being aligned, you'll have that moment of
Speaker 1: alignment where you go, I'm in, and then you'll go
Speaker 1: and now I've got to get out of alignment in
Speaker 1: order to move, And then we're going to keep restructuring
Speaker 1: this idea, this concept of alignment is you know, to me,
Speaker 1: I go, great, you feel like you're focused, you feel
Speaker 1: like you're on purpose. Then you're going to doubt yourself,
Speaker 1: and then you're going to question. Then you're going to
Speaker 1: over here. But it's I would say, as long as
Speaker 1: you keep that overarching objective of where you want to go,
Speaker 1: let the journey take you there. That's aligned. Aligned is
Speaker 1: being able to be misaligned, but not getting so misaligned
Speaker 1: that But if you do what you know, like when
Speaker 1: people come to me, it's not that they're misaligned and
Speaker 1: they're not going to be. They come to me in
Speaker 1: my office because they need assistance getting that back towards center,
Speaker 1: so it's not quite as out of control.
Speaker 3: M right.
Speaker 1: There's mental adjustments, there's physical adjustments, there's spiritual adjustments.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're making me want to go. I'm sturt over.
Speaker 1: I have people fly up here.
Speaker 2: So, and what would you say to someone who feels
Speaker 2: lost right now?
Speaker 1: The first thing I tell you is, I go, take
Speaker 1: three deep breaths. You know that you're right here, then
Speaker 1: you know where you are. You can never truly be lost.
Speaker 1: Take three deep breaths and get present with yourself right
Speaker 1: now where you are. And a lot of people look
Speaker 1: back and they go, I've been wasting my life, and
Speaker 1: I know it's impossible. It's absolutely impossible to waste your life.
Speaker 1: Every single thing you've learned, every single challenge you've had,
Speaker 1: has been set there to get you to where you
Speaker 1: are now. Yeah, you may not know the direction you
Speaker 1: want to go, but there's certainly a lot of things
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, you can get out and you
Speaker 1: can listen to me, you can listen to Mark Victor Hanson,
Speaker 1: we can we can read your book Mercy and probably
Speaker 1: find some direction there. We've I've got other mentors I've
Speaker 1: worked with, and and so the second thing I do,
Speaker 1: is I go go sit down with somebody and talk
Speaker 1: to them and say I'm not quite sure where I
Speaker 1: want to go and have a discussion, don't you know?
Speaker 1: I have it back and forth like we're having right now,
Speaker 1: and and just and just go go go communicate and
Speaker 1: go connect in a very simple way, in a very
Speaker 1: healthy way, not in a crazy way. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a whole other conversation. But I would, but I would say,
Speaker 1: go go go find a friend, Go find an individual,
Speaker 1: Go find somebody. You can just sit down and go.
Speaker 1: You know, here's where I am. Here's all these different things.
Speaker 1: Can you look at it from outside for me? Because
Speaker 1: I'm too stuck in myself? And do you see any
Speaker 1: ideas there that maybe I can follow? That's what a
Speaker 1: mastermind really was.
Speaker 3: Mmmm yeah.
Speaker 1: Don't You don't have to have a table full of
Speaker 1: business leaders to mastermind with. You can have your partner,
Speaker 1: you can have your best friend, you can have your
Speaker 1: dog won't give you much info, but.
Speaker 3: Well, but you shore you will fill the love your dog.
Speaker 1: Your dog will love you unconditionally, and so your cat.
Speaker 1: Your cat won't admit it, but your cat will do. So.
Speaker 2: To wrap it up, one one question people should start
Speaker 2: asking themselves today.
Speaker 1: Where do I feel I've been off on my journey
Speaker 1: and how has it actually helped me on my journey?
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 3: And that's a hard one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think about so many things that
Speaker 2: have happened in my life and I've learned to be
Speaker 2: grateful for them at this point and realize that they
Speaker 2: are things that helped me to get to the place
Speaker 2: I'm at, and there are things that it helped me
Speaker 2: and they don't define me anymore, but they helped me
Speaker 2: to get to where I am today.
Speaker 1: Right, the lessons you've learned, Yeah, what was the old
Speaker 1: thing they used to have, the rules for being human
Speaker 1: that went around and said life will continue to get
Speaker 1: It'll give you the same lesson until you learn it,
Speaker 1: and then you'll get into lessons. And there's no end to.
Speaker 2: Lessons, right, there's no end to lessons, and my goodness,
Speaker 2: when it hits you and you finally learn them, ooh,
Speaker 2: it's life changing.
Speaker 1: And then that you wait for the next lesson.
Speaker 3: Always a lesson.
Speaker 2: Always you know life is going to happen, right, but
Speaker 2: it's just how we get through it and learning to
Speaker 2: get through it and see it a different way.
Speaker 3: So how can we find you?
Speaker 1: I would tell everybody go to forty over forty dot com.
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Speaker 1: away in your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, get out there and help yourself, guys,
Speaker 2: because you're listening for a reason. You're taking in this
Speaker 2: information for a reason, and there's so much.
Speaker 3: Help out there for you to move forward.
Speaker 2: And it's masterminds and this experiences that people put together
Speaker 2: to help you to move forward and wake up to
Speaker 2: your worth and to the change and become fully awake
Speaker 2: in life.
Speaker 3: So thank you so much for coming on wake Up.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful to have been on here to help people
Speaker 1: wake up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was such a powerful conversation and for anyone
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