Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2: It's me Cecily Nobler here with our friend Stephanie Wilder Taylor.
Speaker 1: I like that you called me our friend, our friend, friend,
Speaker 1: friend of the show, friend, friend and lover their lover
Speaker 1: special lady, especially good time.
Speaker 3: I gotta I have to admit.
Speaker 2: Something to you, guys. I was not able to let
Speaker 2: it go. There's a lot of memes about letting things
Speaker 2: go and moving on and block and deleting. I could
Speaker 2: not block and delete, and just like that, I could
Speaker 2: not let it go. I'm having a real hard time
Speaker 2: with one of my favorite shows that I watched like
Speaker 2: every day for twenty years ending like this, not because
Speaker 2: it ended, but the way it ended.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you think let me and let me ask you
Speaker 1: this because we have a lot to get to. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts about yeah, the finale, but
Speaker 1: also just the whole season, and I'm wondering. Okay, So
Speaker 1: when the show first came, we were both excited for it, well.
Speaker 3: Yell my god, yeah, I was over the moon.
Speaker 1: And with the first season, yeah, first season, first season,
Speaker 1: though it became clear, it became clear really quickly that
Speaker 1: it wasn't great.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right away.
Speaker 1: First season was Chay right or no? Or was that
Speaker 1: second season?
Speaker 3: No Cha showed up? The first season Jay was in
Speaker 3: two seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so first season we start watching it, We're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is really weird. They've introduced a lot of new characters.
Speaker 1: Everybody is being super super And when I say woke,
Speaker 1: you guys who listened to our recaps of this and
Speaker 1: it's probably a lot of the same people. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't mean it as like a person who's like
Speaker 1: anti cancel culture, right. I mean, they just made it
Speaker 1: seem like a joke. They just made it seem like
Speaker 1: they weren't woke and that, you know, like.
Speaker 3: They were making fun.
Speaker 2: It seemed like they were making fun of people that
Speaker 2: are like more liberal. I mean, they were like taking
Speaker 2: the piss. I mean, it was just but it wasn't that.
Speaker 2: That's what it's that's how bad the writing was. It's
Speaker 2: because they were so out of touch. It almost seemed
Speaker 2: like they were like, let's just talk to some like
Speaker 2: seventeen year olds about like what's going on, and then
Speaker 2: we'll make everybody who's in their fifties seem kind of
Speaker 2: pathetically trying to be relevant.
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like, which I took personally because
Speaker 1: I'm that age.
Speaker 3: It was horrible.
Speaker 2: And we found out later just from sort of writer
Speaker 2: room talk, is that Cynthia Nixon had a lot to
Speaker 2: do with some of the shit that we had to
Speaker 2: literally literally watch. Yes, I mean why, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but she seems like very annoying. Somebody said something once,
Speaker 2: Oh they said this on like Instagram threads or something.
Speaker 2: They were like, ps, I voted for Remember when Cynthia
Speaker 2: Nixon ran.
Speaker 3: For up in her knees?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and just was pretty out of touch there too,
Speaker 2: And somebody's like I voted for her, and I was
Speaker 2: really trying to go like basically go forward in time
Speaker 2: and stop and just like that. So you're welcome. But
Speaker 2: if she'd won, that wouldn't have never happened. That's what
Speaker 2: I was trying to do.
Speaker 1: That's really really funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there have been a lot of little I
Speaker 2: don't like this term, but there have been a lot
Speaker 2: of think pieces yeah, that are kind of hilarious, some
Speaker 2: more than others. So many tiktoks, so many tiktoks of
Speaker 2: people like losing their mind, like just well.
Speaker 1: Because they tried to tell us that Michael Patrick King
Speaker 1: tried to perpetrate that he knew. Yeah, yeah, we always
Speaker 1: knew we planned it this way. Yeah, that's a ticket, right.
Speaker 1: We knew we were ending, you know why, because it
Speaker 1: was just like we'd said everything we need to say.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of That's a lot of his
Speaker 1: pieces his interviews. He's like, yeah, I sat down with
Speaker 1: Sarah and I was like, listen, you know what, love
Speaker 1: the show. It's going really great. Everybody absolutely loves it.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking, like, what else is there to do?
Speaker 1: What else is there to say? We've said it all?
Speaker 1: And Sarah said to me, you know what, you're a
Speaker 1: genius and you're so right, So like, yeah, let's end it.
Speaker 1: That never fucking happened one.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things this guy on TikTok
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, let's go through the finale. So yeah,
Speaker 2: of course our finale for the whole series. Let's make
Speaker 2: it thirty three minutes. That sounds right, thirty three minutes.
Speaker 2: That's perfect. I mean, just just from that alone, they're like,
Speaker 2: and let's invite a bunch of people that we've never
Speaker 2: met or talked to you. Let's spend most of those
Speaker 2: thirty three minutes with like three terrible people that are
Speaker 2: friends with Brady's baby mama, who's the worst person you've
Speaker 2: ever seen. Let's make most of the episode about that, right,
Speaker 2: thirty three minutes of the series.
Speaker 3: Let's not mention big.
Speaker 1: Also Brady's baby mama, who with the baby that he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to have. So it's not even like a
Speaker 1: character that anybody, even Brady doesn't don't want that character
Speaker 1: on the show, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's literally the worst choice. I can't I
Speaker 2: honestly can't think of a worst choice. I can't, aside
Speaker 2: from Chay. I actually think that this person that I
Speaker 2: preferred Chay to this the Ben Stiller daughter. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 2: that was just horror, but I love I love it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is the ending.
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm going to read to you something and
Speaker 2: then you're going to read to me something.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is from a couple of days ago from Slate magazine.
Speaker 2: They did an interview and the name of this is
Speaker 2: an interview with the guy who made the infamous poop.
Speaker 2: Just like that, Oh, this is the guy that made
Speaker 2: the prop. I thought it was the actor, my god,
Speaker 2: that's even funnier. Somehow, it's been the most memed when
Speaker 2: they showed it going down the toilet mm hmm, and
Speaker 2: most horrifying moment of the finale at the Thanksgiving dinner
Speaker 2: when Miranda's toilet.
Speaker 3: We don't need to go through all that, okay, oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 2: So it has been divisive, No, it has not been
Speaker 2: device Nobody that would.
Speaker 1: Imply that people that some people are like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I think that this person writing for Slave didn't understand
Speaker 2: because they wrote some fans question whether the scene was
Speaker 2: a fitting farewell. Yeah, we're saying that because it's shit,
Speaker 2: like a shit storm.
Speaker 1: It's horrible. Of course it's not fitting farewell. Nobody, nobody
Speaker 1: thought it was good. This is the problem with pieces
Speaker 1: like this. It's like this is where they try to
Speaker 1: gaslight you into like, well, some people really liked it,
Speaker 1: sorry you, not not just they, but Michael Patrick king right,
Speaker 1: because he defended the scene and told Deadline that Sex
Speaker 1: and the City and then just like that have quote
Speaker 1: always dealt with a lot of relationship shit, and that
Speaker 1: was a manifestation of how shit backs up.
Speaker 2: No, it was not he goes it, shit backs up
Speaker 2: and you have to deal with it.
Speaker 1: What what from a character that is just so ridiculous?
Speaker 1: Oh are you like, oh we're playing we're playing you're
Speaker 1: playing checkers, but we're playing like three D.
Speaker 2: Ch yes, like no, yes, no, that is exactly what
Speaker 2: he's saying. And then they say, we all remember when Charlotte,
Speaker 2: Now you remember from the first movie, the first Sex
Speaker 2: in the City movie, when she kept seed in her pants.
Speaker 2: They went to Mexico and she accidentally drank water. She
Speaker 2: was very careful about not drinking any water, but she
Speaker 2: drank some by accident, somehow shit her pants.
Speaker 3: So they really enjoy that for some reason.
Speaker 2: But the finales close up put the show in unchartered waters,
Speaker 2: and in true Carrie Bradshaw's style, I couldn't help but
Speaker 2: wonder what actually goes into creating a spectacle like this.
Speaker 2: So I tracked down the guy responsible, the prop master,
Speaker 2: Michael Corey is his name.
Speaker 3: I think this is interesting. This is not what I thought,
Speaker 3: but I kind of love it.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Where did you first learn about the poop? Did you
Speaker 2: see it in the script or did someone tap you
Speaker 2: on the shoulder and whisper you need poop, and then
Speaker 2: this is amazing, Michael Corey says, Michael Patrick King is
Speaker 2: very specific.
Speaker 1: Oh it was. I love this.
Speaker 3: So it was a scripted moment. Nobody didn't think it
Speaker 3: was a scripted moment.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We just thought somebody was gonna have to poop on set.
Speaker 1: And they're like, let's use it. Don't flush that. Get cameras, Kara,
Speaker 1: where are it's a hot set.
Speaker 3: It's a hot set.
Speaker 2: What After we get the scripts, we have a meeting
Speaker 2: with all the department heads and we go through the
Speaker 2: episode and I remember the conversation with him about it.
Speaker 2: I remember him talking about how it had to be
Speaker 2: gross and he wanted to see quote unquote floaters.
Speaker 3: Oh so he did this.
Speaker 2: He's just he was just mad at us, right he
Speaker 2: really is?
Speaker 1: This whole That whole episode was a big fuck you
Speaker 1: to the audience.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what I'm about to say is really gross?
Speaker 3: Should I not?
Speaker 1: No say it?
Speaker 2: So the question was what did you make the poop
Speaker 2: out of? And he said, well, we knew it had
Speaker 2: to be very specific, lactose intolerant cheeseplate disaster type poop.
Speaker 2: The fuck, it's not a thing.
Speaker 3: I can't even read this. It's so gross that I
Speaker 3: honestly I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: But basically they did something and then the rest he
Speaker 2: mixed in a giant bucket and they made it out
Speaker 2: of brand muffins, vanilla ice cream, oatmeal and chocolate syrup
Speaker 2: and water and yogurt.
Speaker 1: You're making it sound a lot better than it looks.
Speaker 3: Oh, then there's a picture of it.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I didn't even say I didn't see it in real
Speaker 2: time because I looked away.
Speaker 3: So now I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Oh, who was involved in selecting the poop? Did you
Speaker 2: have to present Michael Patrick King with different options for
Speaker 2: him to choose from. This is the type of stuff
Speaker 2: that Michael Patrick King loves. He writes it so it's
Speaker 2: in his head and he gets a delight out of
Speaker 2: awkward moments and putting people in uncomfortable positions for the
Speaker 2: sake of humor. So I mixed one bucket and I
Speaker 2: showed it to him and he loved it.
Speaker 3: Then I mixed two giant buckets which were brought to set.
Speaker 2: This person sounds a little special themselves if your eye,
Speaker 2: I mean really, you know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting though that might they're making Michael Patrick King
Speaker 1: sound so just juvenile and like it's and not understanding
Speaker 1: or being in touch with any of the reasons why
Speaker 1: everybody hated the show, Like what so three seasons of
Speaker 1: that and now they're trying to shift blame and go, well,
Speaker 1: that's that's on the audience if they didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, that's exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 2: And he says, sort of in conclusion, I think they said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, is this a metaphor? That was the question, like,
Speaker 2: is this like a metaphor for the shit show?
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 3: Does that hurt your feelings?
Speaker 2: And he said no, I love working on this show,
Speaker 2: and I love everyone involved, and it's such an institution
Speaker 2: that people have attached their own feelings to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's talking about there.
Speaker 2: I moved to New York at the height of Sex
Speaker 2: and the City, so you should hate it even more.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people have been just like that,
Speaker 2: have been working since the original. So he's just saying,
Speaker 2: it's all one big family.
Speaker 1: It's nobody can admit that it was just really, really bad.
Speaker 1: And I do blame Michael Patrick King. Now you had something.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of things. Yeah, there's more here.
Speaker 1: I have I think let's see, I think I have
Speaker 1: here the and just like that, EPs defend series finale
Speaker 1: after backlash reveal who knew the show was ending? Okay,
Speaker 1: so it says the team behind and just like that,
Speaker 1: defending is defending the controversial series finale despite not First
Speaker 1: of all, let me just inject that the whole thing
Speaker 1: was bad. The whole the whole season was terrible. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just the finale was maybe the worst because it
Speaker 1: was crazy that it was a finale and that they
Speaker 1: even had the nerve to call it that when nothing
Speaker 1: really got wrapped up. But it's defend your whole fucking
Speaker 1: season people, right, Okay, So despite not knowing ahead of
Speaker 1: time that the show is ending, executive producers, Oh, these
Speaker 1: people should not have let themselves be interviewed. Julie Reetenberg
Speaker 1: and Elisa Zuritsky addressed the blash from viewers after Carrie
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker was shown embracing the next chapter of
Speaker 1: her life solo in the finale, Oh my God, as
Speaker 1: though she chose that right right. Of all the possible
Speaker 1: endings of all the three seasons, this one definitely rings
Speaker 1: the most true for me. Zuritsky told tv line, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, really, oh that really just it rang true
Speaker 1: for me. It's like, oh, like sometimes you just have
Speaker 1: to be alone. Oh that's so fucking original.
Speaker 2: Even though she went through the whole thing of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't work with Aiden, but I really like stayed
Speaker 2: with that to the end. And I really hope Duncan
Speaker 2: would come back, but he never even called me, so
Speaker 2: I guess I'll be alone for eight minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go to this Japanese It was never even like
Speaker 3: something she chose.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, these people are smelling their own farts,
Speaker 1: Zuritsky told tv Line. As a fan of the show
Speaker 1: and as a fifty something woman in the world, I
Speaker 1: think it's sort of extra poignant and feels authentic to
Speaker 1: Carrie's character that she would reach this moment. Oh do
Speaker 1: you Oh, you think that's so authentic.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Zarinsky, who worked on the original Sex and the City
Speaker 1: alongside Rottenberg, defended and just like that's vision for Carrie
Speaker 1: to stay single. Hold on, please got to pop up
Speaker 1: ad quote. Carrie has metabolized her grief of being widowed,
Speaker 1: really has she? You know, that's so interesting that I
Speaker 1: wish we could have seen the process of that, except
Speaker 1: that you never fucking mentioned Big one time in the
Speaker 1: entire three seasons, right, never once. No, she's gone back
Speaker 1: in a real way to relationship land, she continued, What
Speaker 1: are they? What is this person talking about?
Speaker 2: She was like a total zombie with one guy. I
Speaker 2: don't see how that's that's the opposite. She's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not coming back. That was really fun to bang you, Carrie.
Speaker 2: I tried all season and I goult you. That's wonderful, goodbye.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then she's like, well, I was really hoping he
Speaker 2: would call, but he didn't. So I guess the show's ending.
Speaker 2: Now we have how long thirty three minutes? Well, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm going to be alone.
Speaker 4: What she's a fuck?
Speaker 1: She's decided that she'd rather be on her own than
Speaker 1: in a not ideal partnership.
Speaker 2: No, she hasn't decided that. She never made that decision.
Speaker 2: She made the opposite of that decision. She decided to
Speaker 2: break up with Aiden, that's true. But then she thought
Speaker 2: she had a crush on She was going to a
Speaker 2: monkey bar into Duncan, monkey Bard, from Big to Aiden,
Speaker 2: she monkey Bard back to from Big to Aiden, back
Speaker 2: and forth.
Speaker 3: And immediately to burger. And I'm not even saying there's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with.
Speaker 2: It, But if she'd actually had a choice, if they
Speaker 2: if they had thirty minutes where they really freaking talked
Speaker 2: about that and explored that idea of like.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just okay as me or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we didn't even talk about like the
Speaker 2: woman stuff and her dumb ass book, you.
Speaker 1: Know, were you know what they could have done that
Speaker 1: you and I would have liked. What if Duncan was
Speaker 1: like Carrie, like this has been incredible, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I think I'm in love with you even yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she said and then she and he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I want you to move to London.
Speaker 3: And then she's like no, I mean, listen, I gotta
Speaker 3: say something.
Speaker 2: I don't often talk about this, but I can relate
Speaker 2: to that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: can relate to the storyline. And that's a choice, that's
Speaker 2: a choice like that would be interesting. I mean, not
Speaker 2: a lot of people can relate to like moving to
Speaker 2: London with Duncan, but I can. And it's kind you're saying,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of insane and I literally was
Speaker 2: in this exact position and it's interesting, And I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I think I need to like work on myself. Something's
Speaker 2: not healed in me. I'm not doing great and this
Speaker 2: isn't feeling right. So I'm not going to just chase
Speaker 2: to the next guy, which is the thing I always.
Speaker 3: Do, just like Carrie.
Speaker 2: So I that would have been interesting. But that's exactly
Speaker 2: not what happened. He just never called.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't call. He told her sorry, I'm not
Speaker 1: I am moving and I'm leaving, and she was like.
Speaker 3: I'm not coming back. It's no interest in her.
Speaker 1: No, and she admitted that she thought maybe that would
Speaker 1: be the thing. So none of this And everybody in
Speaker 1: actual storytelling knows that your protagonist has to things can't
Speaker 1: happen to the protagonists. The protagonist to wrap things up
Speaker 1: for has to resolve things on their own. Yes, they
Speaker 1: have to act, they have to do something active. Yes
Speaker 1: it can't. So then it says, okay, so blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: She's decided she'd rather be on her own than in
Speaker 1: a not ideal partnership, and like so many women we know,
Speaker 1: are really quite happy in their own space and their
Speaker 1: own home and their own friendships. Okay, yes that is true.
Speaker 1: I had her, but that's not her and that's not
Speaker 1: what happened. She didn't make that change. No, she did
Speaker 1: not make that change. So then then it says Zuritsky
Speaker 1: encouraged fans to give the finale, which was crafted by
Speaker 1: showrunner Michael Patrick King an EP Susan Fowls Hill a chance. Quote.
Speaker 1: I feel really gratified that that's the grace note for now.
Speaker 1: That feels really full and fully realize. Yeah, girl, I
Speaker 1: hope you never get another job in TV. And like
Speaker 1: a happy person living a happy life and a grateful
Speaker 1: person in the world. You look at her other jobs
Speaker 1: that she created for herself. Quote, it feels ultimately gratifying.
Speaker 1: And I can't say we've seen a ton of that
Speaker 1: in movies and television, So I feel like it's kind
Speaker 1: of a beautiful punctuation mark to a life well lived.
Speaker 1: What kind of fucking drugs are you taking? Okay Rottenberg. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: this is the other person called Carrie's journey quote the
Speaker 1: most honest way to end the series? Are these people?
Speaker 1: What the I can't believe this article. I can't believe
Speaker 1: nobody laughed while they were interviewing these women. Quote. I
Speaker 1: think the strength was leaving her in a moment where
Speaker 1: she says, quote might not be another man for me,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. I think that's what we
Speaker 1: responded to, and that's what we felt like the clearest
Speaker 1: way to end, maybe the cleanest way to end. She explained,
Speaker 1: It's not a tragedy. She's got a pretty freaking great life,
Speaker 1: and she has these friends, and we felt like we
Speaker 1: were leaving her in a good place. And by the way,
Speaker 1: what I think is really funny is they left everybody
Speaker 1: coupled up but her, right. Well, that was.
Speaker 3: Kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: It would have been interesting if that had been her choice,
Speaker 2: like you said, if she turned down the guy and
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I'd rather it's not quite right,
Speaker 2: I'd rather just not And then she's like walks alone.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, Yeah, except that that's not really how it happened,
Speaker 1: because she was bummed that there's no guys.
Speaker 3: She's super bummed.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I don't know, I'm like kind of
Speaker 2: lost right now because like didn't work out with this guy,
Speaker 2: none of this. And I thought Duncan would call and anyway,
Speaker 2: that's the end.
Speaker 3: Of the show.
Speaker 2: Up shit, literal shit. Yeah, so, Sarah Jessica Parker, may
Speaker 2: do you have something else?
Speaker 1: I have a little bit more, Yeah, so, it says.
Speaker 1: Earlier this month, Michael Patrick King confirmed that the that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't return for a fourth season. The news came
Speaker 1: as a shock to fans and apparently to the show's writers.
Speaker 1: Quote Michael is obviously his own person, and he has
Speaker 1: his own instrument. You know this is Ritzky talking. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hope she listens to this. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeh listen girl, you do you? But come on. Quote
Speaker 1: we're brought on a lot, We're brought in on a
Speaker 1: lot of it and then not. So I feel like
Speaker 1: he had a method to his Timeline. Rottenberg also weighed
Speaker 1: in on why Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte didn't share a
Speaker 1: scene together in the finale, which she called quote a
Speaker 1: Michael Patrick King question.
Speaker 2: Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Quote, Oh my god. I think the idea is that
Speaker 1: the whole series is based on the strength of those friendships.
Speaker 1: I can't I love how she's trying to dig herself
Speaker 1: out of this or so, even if you're not in
Speaker 1: the same room we have those bonds and we feel
Speaker 1: the support and strength of those friendships. She detailed, quote,
Speaker 1: I think that the feeling was that those bonds are
Speaker 1: stronger than anything, and they're there even when they're not there.
Speaker 2: Those friends, right, they didn't get to be together, No,
Speaker 2: but but Joy, who we just met, Joy gets to
Speaker 2: be gets to wrap her arms around Miranda with shit
Speaker 2: on her gloves.
Speaker 3: Yes, that we get.
Speaker 1: And then it says despite the overwhelmingly mixed response to
Speaker 1: the finale, Rodog and Zuritsky are glad the show started
Speaker 1: conversations quote, I think it speaks to the fact that
Speaker 1: no one wants to say goodbye to Carrie Bradshaw. No,
Speaker 1: we don't want to say goodbye to her, and not
Speaker 1: in this way. Right, we share that the bittersweet moment
Speaker 1: of seeing her and knowing she's not going to be
Speaker 1: around every Thursday night at nine pm, She continued, We
Speaker 1: should have been worried if there weren't a cacophony of
Speaker 1: responses to the fact that this was the end. We
Speaker 1: know better than anyone you can't please all the people
Speaker 1: all the time, but we felt like we had to
Speaker 1: do right by them and leave all of those characters
Speaker 1: in a good place and then say adieu.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well let me let me play I have.
Speaker 1: One little more thing, because we have time. Zuritski has
Speaker 1: found herself stepping away from the Internet to avoid the
Speaker 1: negative comments surrounding the end of and just like that quote,
Speaker 1: sometimes it will surprise me and stun me and sort
Speaker 1: of wake me up a little bit when I interact
Speaker 1: with the world of people who I see face to
Speaker 1: face in life, a lot of whom are not on
Speaker 1: the same algorithms that I'm on, who are really quite
Speaker 1: passionate about loving the show and actually having no idea.
Speaker 1: She added quote, all they know is these beloved characters
Speaker 1: are back, and they're really happy to see them again.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So basically, you're like, you know, what's
Speaker 1: funny is like all these just online people, they're not real.
Speaker 1: When you actually talk to people in real life, they
Speaker 1: love it. How can you be writing this season and
Speaker 1: not know it's shitty? How can you not know?
Speaker 2: Well, they know it's shitty. They know it's shitty, that's
Speaker 2: for sure. I have to read. I have to play
Speaker 2: this for you. Okay, please let me play this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is Sarah Jessica Parker from her own Instagram account.
Speaker 2: Now what you You're gonna hear it, obviously, but you're
Speaker 2: not going to see it. And it's just clips from
Speaker 2: the show throughout the last twenty twenty five years. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So that's what you're seeing her with Big, her, with
Speaker 2: different things, just all the old things. Here we go,
Speaker 2: all the way up, get ready.
Speaker 5: Cross streets, avenues, grub of couns. So it seemed she
Speaker 5: broke hearts, heels, habits. She loved, lost one, stripped, leaped.
Speaker 3: Fell, Sure, this is so long?
Speaker 4: She aged that wiser.
Speaker 5: She has made the hardest, worst and best decisions, wuffled
Speaker 5: near and far for the new, the vintage friends.
Speaker 3: She herself It's worse her shoes, hair, but.
Speaker 4: Never her love and devotion to New York City.
Speaker 5: She had dates, drinks, boyfriends, a husband, and truly great
Speaker 5: loves and romans.
Speaker 3: Mainess is driving me killed calves.
Speaker 4: She ran and heels and danced.
Speaker 3: With Stanford Sanford.
Speaker 4: Yeah, told the truth and she lied.
Speaker 5: She typed, wondered, wrote, published.
Speaker 1: When did she agree?
Speaker 4: Stood up, stood.
Speaker 3: Guests for Big, stood out.
Speaker 4: She voted herself to hats, books, shoes.
Speaker 3: She said she was already and the promise.
Speaker 5: Of the new day in her beloved city, and the
Speaker 5: people she treasured most.
Speaker 1: Who wrote this for her, Michael Patrick King.
Speaker 5: Honor Optimism and literally countless dresses, skirts and two tooths
Speaker 5: held on too hands hopes, and the very best of people. Miranda,
Speaker 5: Samantha and Charlotte. There will never be better friends.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And what great fortune for Carrie to come to Noah.
Speaker 5: Love, Seema and empty, what most divine connections? Oh my god,
Speaker 5: Ratcha has dominated my professional heartbeat for twenty seven years.
Speaker 4: I think I have loved her most of all.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, that was like fifteen minutes. That's
Speaker 2: that was so long. So she clearly like wrote that.
Speaker 2: And it's not even well put together like the montage.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really it kind of doesn't flow very well.
Speaker 2: And she obviously did it like she did it in
Speaker 2: a sound booth, and it's they didn't.
Speaker 3: It's very poppy. It's very smacky, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like she's reading her audiobook and it's very like
Speaker 2: I did not like that.
Speaker 1: Is this from a book about it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It doesn't say here let me
Speaker 2: see what it says. But she she put that up
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh girl, I'm crying.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not crying.
Speaker 2: You're crying. There's a lot of that in the comments. No,
Speaker 2: let's see what she said. She she she writes, I
Speaker 2: cried making this words by the one and only Sarah
Speaker 2: Jessica Parker.
Speaker 1: So she wrote it.
Speaker 3: Well, then put a little of that in the finale
Speaker 3: that you didn't know you were doing.
Speaker 2: If that, I mean, if why couldn't Sarah look at
Speaker 2: that and go, wait, this can't be the finite.
Speaker 3: We can't do this. We can't. Don't you think that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Oh, she says, she never watches the show, so there
Speaker 2: was no dailies. She didn't do anything right. Whatever you're all, let.
Speaker 1: Me read you something, which is basically Sarah Jessica Parker's
Speaker 1: message to the and just like that, hate watchers, Oh
Speaker 1: fuck off, I really don't care. So over the course
Speaker 1: of the show's three seasons, and just like that, fans
Speaker 1: more from diehard Sex and the City lovers to hate
Speaker 1: watchers who tuned in every week just to make fun
Speaker 1: of Carrie's absurd outfits or Charlotte's lackluster storylines. Now that
Speaker 1: the show has officially come to an end, Sarah Jessica
Speaker 1: Parker has a message for the hate watchers. Hint she
Speaker 1: couldn't care less. Quote. I don't think I have the
Speaker 1: constitution to have spent a lot of time thinking about that,
Speaker 1: she told The New York Times when asked about the
Speaker 1: hate watching phenomenon. Quote, we always worked incredibly hard to
Speaker 1: tell stories that we're interesting or real. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't really care. And the reason I don't care is
Speaker 1: because it's been so enormously successful and the connections it's
Speaker 1: made with audiences have been very meaningful. And then this
Speaker 1: author wrote touche. Show runner Michael Patrick King had a
Speaker 1: slightly different take on the just like that hate Watchers
Speaker 1: when asked about in a separate interview with Entertainment Weekly,
Speaker 1: calling the show the press pinata, Michael seemed to understand
Speaker 1: that even hate Of course, this is an article in Cosmo,
Speaker 1: and they called they said hate waters instead of watchers.
Speaker 1: Is it really that hard to spell? Time?
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it seems to be. Yeah, the hate waters.
Speaker 1: We're having fun. It's like a party game, he said.
Speaker 1: But he added that feeling isn't necessarily represent representative of
Speaker 1: the entire fandom. It pretty much is if everybody hates
Speaker 1: you on every article and all the reddit, like do
Speaker 1: you where are all the people that love it? It? There's
Speaker 1: a whole other experience besides the tip of the iceberg,
Speaker 1: which is the clap back and the fun and the
Speaker 1: what's that hat about? He continued, there's what's that hat about?
Speaker 1: And the more oh, breach, and what we're more interested
Speaker 1: in is what's that part about? And that's the show.
Speaker 1: It's both those things. Oh my god, this guy. And
Speaker 1: he's right because now that in just like that has
Speaker 1: officially ended. Whether you were a hate watcher or a
Speaker 1: tried and true fan, you're left asking yourself the same question,
Speaker 1: well what am I going to watch? Now? Who cares?
Speaker 2: That's just that's just so. I mean, she's so And
Speaker 2: let me remind you guys one more time. As you know,
Speaker 2: I was a very big fan, like Stephanie loved it too,
Speaker 2: but I was like a mega like I'm like a
Speaker 2: savant Sex and the City stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Know my shit, and so I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: And I saw with my own eyes how mean Sarah
Speaker 2: Jessica Parker was to a fan. I saw it with
Speaker 2: my friend who usually tells me I'm being like sensitive
Speaker 2: or I've made it up, and he saw it. He's like,
Speaker 2: oh I saw I witness Witness. It was insane. She
Speaker 2: was talking to people outside at a Hollywood highland at
Speaker 2: a premiere.
Speaker 3: Everybody was on the steps talking. It wasn't even her movie.
Speaker 2: It was her Matthew Broderick had a small part in
Speaker 2: this dumb movie and it wasn't very good.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the movie. We're all outside and somebody
Speaker 3: just came up and they're like, I'm so sorry, Carrie Bradshaw.
Speaker 2: I'm just I love I know that's not you're not
Speaker 2: here about jaw, but I'm just like such a fan.
Speaker 2: And she turned and she goes, I am in a
Speaker 2: conversation right now. Yeah, this is in front of like loud,
Speaker 2: in front of press. I mean, I'll never stop telling
Speaker 2: that story because it happened. Yeah. She's charming and very intelligent.
Speaker 2: She's interesting to listen to in interviews, like she's smart,
Speaker 2: but she's also a cous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to leave. I'm going to leave you
Speaker 1: from from for me with this. A Candace Bushnell reposted
Speaker 1: to the author.
Speaker 3: If you don't know an author of Yeah Sex and
Speaker 3: the City.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so, there's a picture of Carrie, and then
Speaker 1: it says POV finding out in real time that Carrie
Speaker 1: Bradshaw was based on a real woman, Candace Bushnell.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, she started her Sex and the
Speaker 1: City column in The New York Observer. It was raw,
Speaker 1: funny and brutally honest about New York's dating scene. I
Speaker 1: think martinis, messy men, and Manhattan apartments. Her own friends
Speaker 1: and lovers became the inspiration for Carrie's crew, and she
Speaker 1: famously said she was writing for women like herself who
Speaker 1: didn't see their lives reflected in glossy magazines. Those essays
Speaker 1: turned into Sex and the City and the Kicker. On Instagram,
Speaker 1: she only follows Kim Katrel. What aw we.
Speaker 3: Should have led with that?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: It gave me literal chills.
Speaker 2: I did not, I swear to god. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I hope people are still listening to this because I
Speaker 2: made them listen to the shit conversation for so long.
Speaker 2: But I mean, oh my god, that's the best. That
Speaker 2: gives me so much joy. Kim Katrel, you are listening
Speaker 2: to this show, and I know that you're not, but
Speaker 2: maybe you are Maybe you're scatting. Maybe she's scatting and
Speaker 2: listening now she likes a scat We love you and
Speaker 2: I look. I loved Carrie on the show too. I
Speaker 2: loved I loved the show. The only person I actually
Speaker 2: didn't like seeing on the show was Charlotte because I
Speaker 2: just didn't understand how they would actually be friends with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just didn't totally make sense.
Speaker 2: Great, But that said, I'm so happy that Kim Control
Speaker 2: really did get She really had to wait like three
Speaker 2: years to kind of get an exhale here. Not that
Speaker 2: she was waiting, she was working. She's been on a
Speaker 2: bunch of shows and stuff. She's you know, she's fine.
Speaker 1: Well, remember after the finale, she had posted something about
Speaker 1: like the end very long week.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she posted a picture of sunset and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the finally the end to a very long Yeah. And
Speaker 2: it was a little winky shade. Everyone loved that. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what she meant, But I did
Speaker 2: not know that. Candice just followed her, and let's hope
Speaker 2: she writes something for her. Maybe she'll like do she's leaving.
Speaker 2: She wants Samantha out, though she doesn't want some like him,
Speaker 2: does not want to be Samantha anymore. There's no spin off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people would watch it though I would for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, everybody, hope you will leave you with.
Speaker 3: An Ah, but Dobby do me. Ah, but Dobby do me. Bye.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening by