WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:15.800 Hello, everybody. 2 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.879 It's me Cecily Nobler here with our friend Stephanie Wilder Taylor. 3 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:25.480 I like that you called me our friend, our friend, friend, 4 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.399 friend of the show, friend, friend and lover their lover 5 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:30.359 special lady, especially good time. 6 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:33.159 I gotta I have to admit. 7 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.560 Something to you, guys. I was not able to let 8 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:38.479 it go. There's a lot of memes about letting things 9 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.439 go and moving on and block and deleting. I could 10 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.920 not block and delete, and just like that, I could 11 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.759 not let it go. I'm having a real hard time 12 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:49.600 with one of my favorite shows that I watched like 13 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:55.200 every day for twenty years ending like this, not because 14 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:56.920 it ended, but the way it ended. 15 00:00:58.240 --> 00:00:59.159 Well, you know what I'm saying. 16 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.119 Do you think let me and let me ask you 17 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:02.880 this because we have a lot to get to. We 18 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:06.200 have a lot of thoughts about yeah, the finale, but 19 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.519 also just the whole season, and I'm wondering. Okay, So 20 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:16.200 when the show first came, we were both excited for it, well. 21 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.359 Yell my god, yeah, I was over the moon. 22 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:21.799 And with the first season, yeah, first season, first season, 23 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.799 though it became clear, it became clear really quickly that 24 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.159 it wasn't great. 25 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:28.480 Oh yeah, right away. 26 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.280 First season was Chay right or no? Or was that 27 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:32.920 second season? 28 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.000 No Cha showed up? The first season Jay was in 29 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:35.799 two seasons. 30 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:41.680 Yeah, okay, so first season we start watching it, We're like, Okay, 31 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.719 this is really weird. They've introduced a lot of new characters. 32 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:50.239 Everybody is being super super And when I say woke, 33 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.560 you guys who listened to our recaps of this and 34 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.879 it's probably a lot of the same people. You know, 35 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.480 I don't mean it as like a person who's like 36 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.079 anti cancel culture, right. I mean, they just made it 37 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:03.040 seem like a joke. They just made it seem like 38 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.959 they weren't woke and that, you know, like. 39 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.040 They were making fun. 40 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.719 It seemed like they were making fun of people that 41 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.319 are like more liberal. I mean, they were like taking 42 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:16.159 the piss. I mean, it was just but it wasn't that. 43 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.080 That's what it's that's how bad the writing was. It's 44 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.560 because they were so out of touch. It almost seemed 45 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.280 like they were like, let's just talk to some like 46 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.280 seventeen year olds about like what's going on, and then 47 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.599 we'll make everybody who's in their fifties seem kind of 48 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.879 pathetically trying to be relevant. 49 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.960 That's what it felt like, which I took personally because 50 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:38.879 I'm that age. 51 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:39.960 It was horrible. 52 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:42.039 And we found out later just from sort of writer 53 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.479 room talk, is that Cynthia Nixon had a lot to 54 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:45.960 do with some of the shit that we had to 55 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.840 literally literally watch. Yes, I mean why, I don't know, 56 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.439 but she seems like very annoying. Somebody said something once, 57 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.759 Oh they said this on like Instagram threads or something. 58 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:59.159 They were like, ps, I voted for Remember when Cynthia 59 00:02:59.240 --> 00:02:59.879 Nixon ran. 60 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:00.680 For up in her knees? 61 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.080 Yes, yes, and just was pretty out of touch there too, 62 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:06.719 And somebody's like I voted for her, and I was 63 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.240 really trying to go like basically go forward in time 64 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.520 and stop and just like that. So you're welcome. But 65 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.599 if she'd won, that wouldn't have never happened. That's what 66 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:16.319 I was trying to do. 67 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:18.599 That's really really funny. 68 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.280 Okay, So there have been a lot of little I 69 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:22.800 don't like this term, but there have been a lot 70 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:26.199 of think pieces yeah, that are kind of hilarious, some 71 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:29.319 more than others. So many tiktoks, so many tiktoks of 72 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:33.199 people like losing their mind, like just well. 73 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:37.080 Because they tried to tell us that Michael Patrick King 74 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:41.479 tried to perpetrate that he knew. Yeah, yeah, we always 75 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.960 knew we planned it this way. Yeah, that's a ticket, right. 76 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.879 We knew we were ending, you know why, because it 77 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:49.879 was just like we'd said everything we need to say. 78 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:51.719 That was a lot of That's a lot of his 79 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.919 pieces his interviews. He's like, yeah, I sat down with 80 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.520 Sarah and I was like, listen, you know what, love 81 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.840 the show. It's going really great. Everybody absolutely loves it. 82 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:04.960 But I'm just thinking, like, what else is there to do? 83 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.080 What else is there to say? We've said it all? 84 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.199 And Sarah said to me, you know what, you're a 85 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.800 genius and you're so right, So like, yeah, let's end it. 86 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.279 That never fucking happened one. 87 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.560 And that's one of the things this guy on TikTok 88 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:22.199 was just like, Okay, let's go through the finale. So yeah, 89 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.720 of course our finale for the whole series. Let's make 90 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.720 it thirty three minutes. That sounds right, thirty three minutes. 91 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.439 That's perfect. I mean, just just from that alone, they're like, 92 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.680 and let's invite a bunch of people that we've never 93 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:36.879 met or talked to you. Let's spend most of those 94 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.199 thirty three minutes with like three terrible people that are 95 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.879 friends with Brady's baby mama, who's the worst person you've 96 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.120 ever seen. Let's make most of the episode about that, right, 97 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:48.720 thirty three minutes of the series. 98 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:50.360 Let's not mention big. 99 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.639 Also Brady's baby mama, who with the baby that he 100 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.759 doesn't want to have. So it's not even like a 101 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.879 character that anybody, even Brady doesn't don't want that character 102 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:01.920 on the show, right. 103 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.959 I mean, it's literally the worst choice. I can't I 104 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.879 honestly can't think of a worst choice. I can't, aside 105 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.079 from Chay. I actually think that this person that I 106 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:17.439 preferred Chay to this the Ben Stiller daughter. Yeah, honestly, 107 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:19.519 that was just horror, but I love I love it. 108 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.079 I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is the ending. 109 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.040 So okay, I'm going to read to you something and 110 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:25.319 then you're going to read to me something. 111 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:25.759 Okay. 112 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:30.560 This is from a couple of days ago from Slate magazine. 113 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.040 They did an interview and the name of this is 114 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.720 an interview with the guy who made the infamous poop. 115 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.519 Just like that, Oh, this is the guy that made 116 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.759 the prop. I thought it was the actor, my god, 117 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:47.240 that's even funnier. Somehow, it's been the most memed when 118 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.839 they showed it going down the toilet mm hmm, and 119 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:53.639 most horrifying moment of the finale at the Thanksgiving dinner 120 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:54.639 when Miranda's toilet. 121 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:56.759 We don't need to go through all that, okay, oh 122 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:57.160 my god. 123 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.639 So it has been divisive, No, it has not been 124 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.480 device Nobody that would. 125 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.879 Imply that people that some people are like, well, I 126 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:06.240 don't know, I loved it. 127 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.480 I think that this person writing for Slave didn't understand 128 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.040 because they wrote some fans question whether the scene was 129 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.839 a fitting farewell. Yeah, we're saying that because it's shit, 130 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.480 like a shit storm. 131 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:22.160 It's horrible. Of course it's not fitting farewell. Nobody, nobody 132 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.600 thought it was good. This is the problem with pieces 133 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.959 like this. It's like this is where they try to 134 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.040 gaslight you into like, well, some people really liked it, 135 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.759 sorry you, not not just they, but Michael Patrick king right, 136 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:37.160 because he defended the scene and told Deadline that Sex 137 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.040 and the City and then just like that have quote 138 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.120 always dealt with a lot of relationship shit, and that 139 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.759 was a manifestation of how shit backs up. 140 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.680 No, it was not he goes it, shit backs up 141 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:49.759 and you have to deal with it. 142 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:55.800 What what from a character that is just so ridiculous? 143 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.079 Oh are you like, oh we're playing we're playing you're 144 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.279 playing checkers, but we're playing like three D. 145 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.959 Ch yes, like no, yes, no, that is exactly what 146 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.680 he's saying. And then they say, we all remember when Charlotte, 147 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.360 Now you remember from the first movie, the first Sex 148 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.120 in the City movie, when she kept seed in her pants. 149 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.879 They went to Mexico and she accidentally drank water. She 150 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.199 was very careful about not drinking any water, but she 151 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.360 drank some by accident, somehow shit her pants. 152 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:23.720 So they really enjoy that for some reason. 153 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.079 But the finales close up put the show in unchartered waters, 154 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:31.920 and in true Carrie Bradshaw's style, I couldn't help but 155 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.680 wonder what actually goes into creating a spectacle like this. 156 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.199 So I tracked down the guy responsible, the prop master, 157 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:39.839 Michael Corey is his name. 158 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.079 I think this is interesting. This is not what I thought, 159 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:43.920 but I kind of love it. 160 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:44.639 Uh huh. 161 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.040 Where did you first learn about the poop? Did you 162 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.560 see it in the script or did someone tap you 163 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.839 on the shoulder and whisper you need poop, and then 164 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.279 this is amazing, Michael Corey says, Michael Patrick King is 165 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:58.639 very specific. 166 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.319 Oh it was. I love this. 167 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.360 So it was a scripted moment. Nobody didn't think it 168 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:05.480 was a scripted moment. 169 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:06.079 Oh my god. 170 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.279 We just thought somebody was gonna have to poop on set. 171 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:14.759 And they're like, let's use it. Don't flush that. Get cameras, Kara, 172 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:16.680 where are it's a hot set. 173 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:18.000 It's a hot set. 174 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.920 What After we get the scripts, we have a meeting 175 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:22.879 with all the department heads and we go through the 176 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.000 episode and I remember the conversation with him about it. 177 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.360 I remember him talking about how it had to be 178 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.759 gross and he wanted to see quote unquote floaters. 179 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.279 Oh so he did this. 180 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:38.799 He's just he was just mad at us, right he 181 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:39.559 really is? 182 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.000 This whole That whole episode was a big fuck you 183 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:42.679 to the audience. 184 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:47.080 Oh my god, what I'm about to say is really gross? 185 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:47.600 Should I not? 186 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:48.559 No say it? 187 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.279 So the question was what did you make the poop 188 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.159 out of? And he said, well, we knew it had 189 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.759 to be very specific, lactose intolerant cheeseplate disaster type poop. 190 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:00.879 The fuck, it's not a thing. 191 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:04.679 I can't even read this. It's so gross that I 192 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:06.639 honestly I can't. I can't. 193 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.799 But basically they did something and then the rest he 194 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:14.240 mixed in a giant bucket and they made it out 195 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:18.360 of brand muffins, vanilla ice cream, oatmeal and chocolate syrup 196 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.159 and water and yogurt. 197 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.519 You're making it sound a lot better than it looks. 198 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.039 Oh, then there's a picture of it. 199 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:24.919 Oh. 200 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.840 I didn't even say I didn't see it in real 201 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:27.919 time because I looked away. 202 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:29.440 So now I've seen it. 203 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.759 Oh, who was involved in selecting the poop? Did you 204 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.000 have to present Michael Patrick King with different options for 205 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.600 him to choose from. This is the type of stuff 206 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:44.279 that Michael Patrick King loves. He writes it so it's 207 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.720 in his head and he gets a delight out of 208 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:49.919 awkward moments and putting people in uncomfortable positions for the 209 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.480 sake of humor. So I mixed one bucket and I 210 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.039 showed it to him and he loved it. 211 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.120 Then I mixed two giant buckets which were brought to set. 212 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:00.559 This person sounds a little special themselves if your eye, 213 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:01.879 I mean really, you know. 214 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.679 It's interesting though that might they're making Michael Patrick King 215 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:11.879 sound so just juvenile and like it's and not understanding 216 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.039 or being in touch with any of the reasons why 217 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.519 everybody hated the show, Like what so three seasons of 218 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.639 that and now they're trying to shift blame and go, well, 219 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.120 that's that's on the audience if they didn't like it. 220 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.240 Right exactly, that's exactly what they're doing. 221 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:30.960 And he says, sort of in conclusion, I think they said, well, 222 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.960 you know, is this a metaphor? That was the question, like, 223 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:34.600 is this like a metaphor for the shit show? 224 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:34.840 Did that? 225 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:36.000 Does that hurt your feelings? 226 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:39.080 And he said no, I love working on this show, 227 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.519 and I love everyone involved, and it's such an institution 228 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:43.480 that people have attached their own feelings to it. 229 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:44.879 I don't know what he's talking about there. 230 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.799 I moved to New York at the height of Sex 231 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.679 and the City, so you should hate it even more. 232 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.360 But a lot of people have been just like that, 233 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.639 have been working since the original. So he's just saying, 234 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:53.879 it's all one big family. 235 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.000 It's nobody can admit that it was just really, really bad. 236 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:04.240 And I do blame Michael Patrick King. Now you had something. 237 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:06.480 I have a couple of things. Yeah, there's more here. 238 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:08.720 I have I think let's see, I think I have 239 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.960 here the and just like that, EPs defend series finale 240 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.000 after backlash reveal who knew the show was ending? Okay, 241 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:20.200 so it says the team behind and just like that, 242 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.919 defending is defending the controversial series finale despite not First 243 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.600 of all, let me just inject that the whole thing 244 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:31.480 was bad. The whole the whole season was terrible. It 245 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.759 wasn't just the finale was maybe the worst because it 246 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:36.919 was crazy that it was a finale and that they 247 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.080 even had the nerve to call it that when nothing 248 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.519 really got wrapped up. But it's defend your whole fucking 249 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:49.200 season people, right, Okay, So despite not knowing ahead of 250 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.799 time that the show is ending, executive producers, Oh, these 251 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.559 people should not have let themselves be interviewed. Julie Reetenberg 252 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:02.080 and Elisa Zuritsky addressed the blash from viewers after Carrie 253 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:06.200 Sarah Jessica Parker was shown embracing the next chapter of 254 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.720 her life solo in the finale, Oh my God, as 255 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.399 though she chose that right right. Of all the possible 256 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:17.720 endings of all the three seasons, this one definitely rings 257 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:22.759 the most true for me. Zuritsky told tv line, Oh 258 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.360 my god, really, oh that really just it rang true 259 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.960 for me. It's like, oh, like sometimes you just have 260 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.600 to be alone. Oh that's so fucking original. 261 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.039 Even though she went through the whole thing of like, yeah, 262 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:34.960 I didn't work with Aiden, but I really like stayed 263 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.639 with that to the end. And I really hope Duncan 264 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:38.919 would come back, but he never even called me, so 265 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.559 I guess I'll be alone for eight minutes. 266 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.039 Yeah, go to this Japanese It was never even like 267 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:44.080 something she chose. 268 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:48.080 Oh my god, these people are smelling their own farts, 269 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:52.000 Zuritsky told tv Line. As a fan of the show 270 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.000 and as a fifty something woman in the world, I 271 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.799 think it's sort of extra poignant and feels authentic to 272 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.639 Carrie's character that she would reach this moment. Oh do 273 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.960 you Oh, you think that's so authentic. 274 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:05.840 Yeah. 275 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.639 Zarinsky, who worked on the original Sex and the City 276 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:13.480 alongside Rottenberg, defended and just like that's vision for Carrie 277 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.799 to stay single. Hold on, please got to pop up 278 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:21.679 ad quote. Carrie has metabolized her grief of being widowed, 279 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.399 really has she? You know, that's so interesting that I 280 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.159 wish we could have seen the process of that, except 281 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:31.879 that you never fucking mentioned Big one time in the 282 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.480 entire three seasons, right, never once. No, she's gone back 283 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:40.639 in a real way to relationship land, she continued, What 284 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.639 are they? What is this person talking about? 285 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.600 She was like a total zombie with one guy. I 286 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.200 don't see how that's that's the opposite. She's like, you know, 287 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.759 I'm not coming back. That was really fun to bang you, Carrie. 288 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.639 I tried all season and I goult you. That's wonderful, goodbye. 289 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:54.279 Yeah. 290 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.240 And then she's like, well, I was really hoping he 291 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.519 would call, but he didn't. So I guess the show's ending. 292 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.039 Now we have how long thirty three minutes? Well, I 293 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:04.120 guess I'm going to be alone. 294 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.000 What she's a fuck? 295 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.679 She's decided that she'd rather be on her own than 296 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.639 in a not ideal partnership. 297 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.279 No, she hasn't decided that. She never made that decision. 298 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.320 She made the opposite of that decision. She decided to 299 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.879 break up with Aiden, that's true. But then she thought 300 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:23.799 she had a crush on She was going to a 301 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.960 monkey bar into Duncan, monkey Bard, from Big to Aiden, 302 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.399 she monkey Bard back to from Big to Aiden, back 303 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:31.919 and forth. 304 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.200 And immediately to burger. And I'm not even saying there's 305 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:34.799 nothing wrong with. 306 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.120 It, But if she'd actually had a choice, if they 307 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.559 if they had thirty minutes where they really freaking talked 308 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.080 about that and explored that idea of like. 309 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.320 Maybe I'm just okay as me or whatever. 310 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:46.440 Oh my god, we didn't even talk about like the 311 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.559 woman stuff and her dumb ass book, you. 312 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.159 Know, were you know what they could have done that 313 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:55.200 you and I would have liked. What if Duncan was 314 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.679 like Carrie, like this has been incredible, and you know, 315 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:04.000 I'm I'm I think I'm in love with you even yeah, 316 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:07.000 and then she said and then she and he's like yeah, 317 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.519 and I'm gonna I want you to move to London. 318 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:14.240 And then she's like no, I mean, listen, I gotta 319 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:14.639 say something. 320 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.480 I don't often talk about this, but I can relate 321 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.080 to that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, And I 322 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:23.039 can relate to the storyline. And that's a choice, that's 323 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.679 a choice like that would be interesting. I mean, not 324 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:27.960 a lot of people can relate to like moving to 325 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.799 London with Duncan, but I can. And it's kind you're saying, 326 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.519 I mean, it's kind of insane and I literally was 327 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.240 in this exact position and it's interesting, And I was like, no, 328 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.840 I think I need to like work on myself. Something's 329 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.519 not healed in me. I'm not doing great and this 330 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.840 isn't feeling right. So I'm not going to just chase 331 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.279 to the next guy, which is the thing I always. 332 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:49.960 Do, just like Carrie. 333 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:54.200 So I that would have been interesting. But that's exactly 334 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.080 not what happened. He just never called. 335 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.120 No, he didn't call. He told her sorry, I'm not 336 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.919 I am moving and I'm leaving, and she was like. 337 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.320 I'm not coming back. It's no interest in her. 338 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.120 No, and she admitted that she thought maybe that would 339 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.879 be the thing. So none of this And everybody in 340 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:15.279 actual storytelling knows that your protagonist has to things can't 341 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:19.120 happen to the protagonists. The protagonist to wrap things up 342 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.600 for has to resolve things on their own. Yes, they 343 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.399 have to act, they have to do something active. Yes 344 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:31.519 it can't. So then it says, okay, so blah blah blah. 345 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.399 She's decided she'd rather be on her own than in 346 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:36.799 a not ideal partnership, and like so many women we know, 347 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:39.759 are really quite happy in their own space and their 348 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:44.279 own home and their own friendships. Okay, yes that is true. 349 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.759 I had her, but that's not her and that's not 350 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.320 what happened. She didn't make that change. No, she did 351 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.840 not make that change. So then then it says Zuritsky 352 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.840 encouraged fans to give the finale, which was crafted by 353 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:04.400 showrunner Michael Patrick King an EP Susan Fowls Hill a chance. Quote. 354 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.799 I feel really gratified that that's the grace note for now. 355 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.839 That feels really full and fully realize. Yeah, girl, I 356 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.519 hope you never get another job in TV. And like 357 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.880 a happy person living a happy life and a grateful 358 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.720 person in the world. You look at her other jobs 359 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:25.240 that she created for herself. Quote, it feels ultimately gratifying. 360 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.519 And I can't say we've seen a ton of that 361 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.160 in movies and television, So I feel like it's kind 362 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.359 of a beautiful punctuation mark to a life well lived. 363 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:40.319 What kind of fucking drugs are you taking? Okay Rottenberg. Meanwhile, 364 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:44.240 this is the other person called Carrie's journey quote the 365 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.359 most honest way to end the series? Are these people? 366 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.960 What the I can't believe this article. I can't believe 367 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.640 nobody laughed while they were interviewing these women. Quote. I 368 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.279 think the strength was leaving her in a moment where 369 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.240 she says, quote might not be another man for me, 370 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.119 and I'm okay with that. I think that's what we 371 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:08.519 responded to, and that's what we felt like the clearest 372 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.720 way to end, maybe the cleanest way to end. She explained, 373 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.240 It's not a tragedy. She's got a pretty freaking great life, 374 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.839 and she has these friends, and we felt like we 375 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.319 were leaving her in a good place. And by the way, 376 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.400 what I think is really funny is they left everybody 377 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.200 coupled up but her, right. Well, that was. 378 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:27.000 Kind of interesting. 379 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.279 It would have been interesting if that had been her choice, 380 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.400 like you said, if she turned down the guy and 381 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.759 was like, you know, I'd rather it's not quite right, 382 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.200 I'd rather just not And then she's like walks alone. 383 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.480 That's interesting, Yeah, except that that's not really how it happened, 384 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.640 because she was bummed that there's no guys. 385 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:44.599 She's super bummed. 386 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:46.279 She's like, yeah, I don't know, I'm like kind of 387 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.680 lost right now because like didn't work out with this guy, 388 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.799 none of this. And I thought Duncan would call and anyway, 389 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:52.480 that's the end. 390 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:52.839 Of the show. 391 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:57.279 Up shit, literal shit. Yeah, so, Sarah Jessica Parker, may 392 00:18:57.839 --> 00:18:58.599 do you have something else? 393 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.079 I have a little bit more, Yeah, so, it says. 394 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:04.519 Earlier this month, Michael Patrick King confirmed that the that 395 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.640 it wouldn't return for a fourth season. The news came 396 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.960 as a shock to fans and apparently to the show's writers. 397 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.000 Quote Michael is obviously his own person, and he has 398 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:19.839 his own instrument. You know this is Ritzky talking. Oh 399 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.279 my god, I hope she listens to this. No, I don't. 400 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:28.640 Yeh listen girl, you do you? But come on. 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