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April twenty fourth, nineteen fifty two, here is the Big Elevator.

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Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true. The names

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have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant.

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You're assigned a homicide detail. You've got a call from

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the receiving hospital in your city. A dead body has

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been left in the hospital elevator. There's no lead to

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the identity of the corpse. There's no apparent cause of that.

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Your job investigator.

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Speaker 3: Drag Net the documented drama of an actual crime. All

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment,

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drag Net is the story of your police force and action.

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Speaker 4: It was Wednesday, November ninth. That was foggy in Los Angeles.

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We were working the night watch out a homicide detail.

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My partner's Bill Lockwood. The boss is Captain Lrmon. My

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name's Friday. It was eleven, twenty eight pm when we

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got to the third floor at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital,

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doctor Terrell's office right right to see You've been waiting

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for you. We made it as soon as we could. Doctor, Like,

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have you meet my new partner, Bill Lockwood, Doctor Carroll.

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Speaker 5: Bill, how I think I've seen you round Lockwood?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, how I understand you got a problem talk

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with the start.

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Speaker 7: Odd one after a few minutes after eleven, you want

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to sit down a minute, I'll fill in.

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Speaker 5: Before we go back and take a look at the body.

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Speaker 6: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 7: I understand it's a woman that right, Yeah, Grace Morgan,

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she's a night nurse son duty. She told me she

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was sitting at the desk checking over.

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Speaker 5: Some patients cards.

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Speaker 7: It was about five ten minutes after eleven when she

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heard the elevator come up. She heard the elevator stop

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and the door's open. Kept on checking the cards there,

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didn't pay any attention to it, and then she realized

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nobody got out of the elevator. She looked up and

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the elevator doors were still open. She saw this young

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woman slumped over in a wheelchair sitting there in the elevator.

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Speaker 6: A woman was alone with her. That's right.

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Speaker 7: The nurse went over and wheeled her out of the elevator.

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A woman was wearing a nightgown a bathroom over that.

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She's unconscious, nurse called me. The two of us took

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the woman into a treatment room, examined her. She was

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dead in any indication, how long the body was still warm,

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She didn't lived in dead a short time, any idea

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of the cause of death. And then there's a couple

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of abrasions on her right shoulder, another one in the

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right temporal region. Not positive, but I don't think any

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of them were severe enough to cause death.

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Speaker 6: No other markings at all.

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Speaker 7: No, she seemed to have been in good physical condition. Know,

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it's a strong smell of alcohol, though, could be cheap

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and drinking.

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Speaker 6: Here's a nurse. Pretty sure.

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Speaker 7: The woman came up the elevator alone. Possibility one of

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the attendants might have brought her up.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 7: I checked for the attendant on duty down the first

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floor lobby, Ray Collins. He didn't bring her up. He

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said a man came in the lobby about eleven o'clock

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said he had a sick woman out in his car.

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He asked for a wheelchair to bring her in. Ray

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asked if he could help, but the man said he'd

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take care of it. It's all Rady knows about it.

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He let the man have a wheelchair, then he went

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in the back room to change some linens on the

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ambulance striction.

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Speaker 6: Any possibility one of the other attendants might have brought

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her up on the elevator.

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Speaker 7: No, Collins was the only attendant on duty.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to talk to him. Is he still around?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew you'd want to see him. He was

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off duty eleven thirty. I held him over. He's down

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at the corner having a sandwich. He'll be back in

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a few minutes. What do you figure, doctor, I think

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the one could have operated the elevator self possible, not

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too probable, though it's a self operating elevator automatic. Someone

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could have wield a woman into the elevator, pushed the

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button for the third floor, and then stepped back. We're

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taking her straight up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the nurses sure the elevator didn't go back down

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after it got up here.

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Speaker 5: Positive, she heard the elevator doors open. They stayed that way.

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Speaker 7: She kept waiting for someone to come out, and that's

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what attracted her attention.

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Speaker 6: How about identification the woman have a person or anything

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like that.

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Speaker 7: Not, No, all she had was what she was wearing

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nightgown slippers in the bathroom.

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Speaker 5: Let's go back and have a look on of swimming.

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Speaker 7: Okay, have it? You saw the only markings on the

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body of those abrasions on the shoulder and the forehead. Yeah, yeah,

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you don't think that's why she's dead. You any ideas

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at all? I wouldn't want to say Lockwood strange one.

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Then I have to wait for the autopsy. How about

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the wheelchair? The woman came up in dockwards it though

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back here in the same room with the body, and

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I gave notice it wasn't to be touched.

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Speaker 5: I knew you'd want to check it.

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Speaker 6: Oh far in here, all right, just spoke in here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, no thanks, No over here on the table,

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nurse put the woman's clothing over there, nightgown, slippers, bathroom

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I see. Seems to be a fairly young woman, i'd.

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Speaker 5: Say, in her early thirties.

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Speaker 7: Nice looking girl, well groomed nose, her hair and fingernails,

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well kept bruised.

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Speaker 6: There on her head. Took a pretty good blow to

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cause that.

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Speaker 5: When you say, yeah, it might even be worse than

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it looks hard to say right now. Other abrasions I.

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Speaker 7: Was telling you about right here along the clavicle seem

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to be fairly distinct for or forum.

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Speaker 6: That's all of them.

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's it, like I say, we'll no more after

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they post the money. Take a look at the clothing,

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O're he? You want to check over the bathrobe bill, Yeah, there's.

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Speaker 4: No label here, size marking though, size thirty four, just

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an ordinary rayon nightgown seems to be fairly new. It's

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not damaged. Nothing in the bathrobe, Joe. Both pocket's empty,

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no visible marking. Manufacturer's label here fairly common.

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Speaker 6: Trade name Lodi Marks.

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Speaker 7: No, none showing we can have a crime lab check

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them over.

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Speaker 6: How about the slippers, though it's the same nothing.

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Speaker 5: Do you fellows want me to notify the corner, No,

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we'll get a doc.

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Speaker 6: We have to call in for the crime lab crew. Anyway,

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it looks like a rough one.

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Speaker 7: We don't even know what we've got.

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Speaker 5: And figured if somebody murdered the woman, why did they

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bring her here to die?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she was sick or.

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Speaker 7: Hurt and they were worried enough about it to bring

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her here. Why do they want to get rid of her?

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Leave her alone in an elevator? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

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Somebody's got something to hide. Sure could use a lead

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man puts her on the elevator and sends her up

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three floors. Who she is? How she died? I don't

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even know where she came from.

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Speaker 4: No choice when we start at the beginning, Yeah, ground floor,

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eleven fifty two pm. The receiving hospital attendant Ray Collins

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returned and we interviewed him.

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Speaker 6: In doctor Terrell's office.

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Speaker 4: He told us substantially the same thing the doctor had

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told us at a few minutes past eleven o'clock that night,

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a man entered the lobby of the hospital and asked

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for a wheelchair to move a patient up to the

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third floor. Colin stated he gave the man the wheelchair,

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the man refused his offer of assistance, and Collins went

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on about his work. He didn't see the patient, he

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didn't see any car park outside, and he was able

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to give us only a partial description of the man,

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himself a male Caucasian about thirty five years old, short,

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heavy built, old dark hair.

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Speaker 6: The group from the Prime Lab arrived and began their investigation.

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The body was.

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Speaker 4: Photographed and fingerprinted, and the wheelchair was also dusted for prints.

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The clothing was packed up to be taken downtown for

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further examination. After the men from the Prime Lab left,

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Bill Lockwood began a canvas of the immediate neighborhood for

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possible witnesses. Meantime, I checked with the rest of the

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hospital person out.

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Speaker 6: On the patience. They could tell me nothing.

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Speaker 4: Twelve thirty am I met Bill back at doctor Terrell's office.

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Speaker 7: How'd you do? Joey?

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Speaker 4: Lock After the nurses and some of the other attendants

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they couldn't help any checked with a dispatcher on incoming

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and outgoing ambulance.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing there? What about you? No good?

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Speaker 7: Most of the business places around here a lock up.

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Talk to the newsboy down at the corner. He was

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about the only one in the street. He didn't see anything.

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Speaker 4: Sure going slow and then might give Bergmann a call

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see if he's got the woman's princes classified that.

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Speaker 7: How about the corner show up yere?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's in there now, yes, ma'am give

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me station two five five seven, Yeah, that's right, late

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in print, All right, let me talk to Bergman plice right, yeah, Dean,

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Joe Friday.

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Speaker 6: Now we're still over at the hospital. And do any

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good to those prints? That's what we figured How about

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her princes? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay Dean, thanks, yeah right, we're still betting a thousand

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when you say they make her princes? Nothing in records

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on her. Dean's going to set along a set to

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Washington see if they got anything.

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Speaker 6: How about the wheelchair? Any prints there?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 6: The nurses and Doc Carrell's that's all we figured on that,

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didn't we how's he luck? Sure is?

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Speaker 4: I checked with missing persons while you were up. There's

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nothing there either, I mean, how about finish this up here, Holly.

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Speaker 6: We better get back to the office. Joe, Yeah, I

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think I got something for you here, you know.

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Speaker 7: Nurse at the switchboard got a call a minute ago.

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Man's voice wanted to know the condition of Colline Cheswick.

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Nurse checked the list of patients, didn't find anyone by

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that name. The man insisted she's here. The nurse asked

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him one time the woman was admitted to the hospital.

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He told her at eleven o'clock tonight. Now, man said,

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I know she's there. I brought her myself along.

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Speaker 6: With doctor Terrell.

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Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I went down the hall and talked

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to the nurse who'd received the phone call. She told

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us that she tried to question the caller as to

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his name and his relationship to the allegation Carla Chaswick,

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but the man refused and hung up. We put in

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a call to R and I and asked him to

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run the name for us. There was no one for

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that name in the files. We went back to the

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doctor's office and started checking through the telephone directories.

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Speaker 6: In the northwestern section.

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Speaker 4: We found a listing for a missus Carla z Chaswick

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on North Capitol Avenue. We called the number but there

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was no answer, and we checked with the office, told

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him what we had and we were going to follow

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through on it. One eighteen am.

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Speaker 6: It was only a possibility, but it had to be

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checked out.

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Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I left Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, got

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in the car and drove out to the address on

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North Capitol Avenue. Was a large apartment house, fairly new.

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The name on the mailbox for apartment eighteen was missus

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Carla Chaswick. We rang but there was no answer. We

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finally had to get the manager out of bed, Missus Herbert.

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We identified ourselves and explained the reason.

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Speaker 6: For our visit.

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Speaker 4: She got a pass key, showed us upstairs to the

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second floor and let us in apartment eighteen. There was

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no one there, but there was evidence of a recent

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party within a matter of hours. Half filled cocktailed glasses,

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an empty whiskey bottle, a glass bowl containing partially melted

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ice cubes. An end table in the corner has been overturned.

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In the bedroom, women's clothing was scattered on the floor

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and on the dressing table.

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Speaker 6: On the mantel in the living room there was a

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picture of a woman did.

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Speaker 7: You notice anything unusual about her at that time?

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Speaker 6: Is her?

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Speaker 7: I mean anything out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 10: Oh, don't think so. She'd been drinking some I'm pretty

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sure of that, and that's not unusual for missus Cheswick.

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She drinks quite a bit, parties and things, runs around

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a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you didn't notice anything about her face, No cuts, bruises.

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Speaker 10: Anyone, No, nothing like that.

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Speaker 7: Why and you told her she had quite a few

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men friends. Do you know any of their names? Where

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they live?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: CA's they to do? She was just rooms.

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Speaker 9: The tenants.

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Speaker 10: I didn't try to get acquainted. It didn't have much

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in common with her. The other tenants isn't either a

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matter of fact, she kept pretty much to herself, her

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and her friends.

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Speaker 4: I see now about this party she had last night

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with Herbert. They say, you don't know who was there

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with her?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm afraid of don't.

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Speaker 10: When I called her on the phone to ask her

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to quiet things down, I heard that one man's voice talking.

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Speaker 7: That's about all.

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Speaker 10: Though I couldn't tell you who was there?

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Speaker 4: Was there anyone at all that you know of? It

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was close to her, I mean someone we could talk

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to about her.

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Speaker 10: Well, her husband. I suppose he's the only one close

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to her. I know he comes around every month and

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takes care of the rent. Kind of peculiar thing, but

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I never questioned it. I figured it's their business live

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and let's live. You any idea where we can find

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the husband, I'm not sure. He works at a machine

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shop out near Glendale. I have these home address in

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my rent book downstairs. If you want it, yes, man,

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we'd like to have that if we could.

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Speaker 4: Would you happen to know how missus Cheswick and her

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husband got along, I mean the separation of there.

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Speaker 6: Was it friendly or did they still quarrel quite a bit?

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Speaker 10: No, as far as I know, they got along all right,

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as long as they didn't have to live together. For

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mister Cheswick, I's sorry for him. It's going to take

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it hard his wife. I don't know whether to blame

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or pity or she was a terrible disappointment to him,

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that's all. I had a long talk with him once.

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Seemed like such a nice man, hard worker, and he's

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a wife. He was so disgusted, I mean, drinking all

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the time, going out with different than men. Bitter disappointment.

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Speaker 6: He told me how well or did he see violent

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on the subject iming did he feel angered toward his wife, wh.

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Speaker 10: Just pit a City'd rather have her dead than go

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on the way she was.

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Speaker 4: We checked through the dead woman's apartment for names and

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addresses of some of our men friends, but we found nothing.

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The crew from the crime lab went over the apartment thoroughly.

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The only evidence found were fingerprints on some of.

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Speaker 6: The cocktail glasses.

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Speaker 4: Along with the apartment manager, missus Herbert, we went downstairs

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and she gave us mister Chesswick's home address and also

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his place of employment.

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Speaker 6: Two thirty am we got to a phone and called.

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Speaker 4: Cheswick's home, but the people he was staying with told

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us that he wasn't there.

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Speaker 6: He was working the.

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Speaker 4: All night shift at a farm implement factory on Glendale Boulevard.

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Three to zero five am, Bill and I drove out

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to the factory and checked with the night personnel superintendent.

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He directed us to the factory repair shop, where Chesswick

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was employed as a welder. The forarman at the repair

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shop pointed him out course Chaswick was working on the

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welding line.

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Speaker 6: A tall, thin man slight build.

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Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I went back and introduced ourselves.

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Speaker 8: Say any Cheswick. That's my name. What can I do

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for it?

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Speaker 11: Like to talk to you for a few minutes as

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we could. It's about your wife, Donna. What's the matter

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of seeing trouble again?

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Speaker 6: It might be better if we can step outside and talk.

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It will take very long, all right.

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Speaker 8: I gotta finish up this little job here. If you

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don't mind waiting a couple of pieces of tube, It

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won't take a minute.

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Speaker 6: Here you go right ahead.

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Speaker 8: You might stand back a couple of steps.

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Speaker 11: This thing pops a little okay, thanks, Ah, too much oxygen.

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Speaker 8: I have to light it again. Ah, that does it?

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Don't look at the flames go bast of your eyes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 8: For suring their money, don't they Yeah?

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Speaker 6: They seem to a lot of work.

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Speaker 8: Manish just tacond hair. Okay, that's got it. Now, what's

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this about my wife? Sergeant? What's the matter?

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Speaker 6: Well, I understand you're separated from missus Chadwick.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right about a year ago now. Finally gave

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it up as a bad job. Wasn't anything I could

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do for nothing else anybody could do for her hopeless.

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Speaker 6: Well when's the last time you saw?

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Speaker 11: First of the month went by the pair of Rent

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dropped in and say hello, that's all.

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Speaker 8: I stay away as much as I can. No good, plumb.

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Speaker 11: That's about all you can say about her. James to

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admit I was eating married to? Or why do you

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ask anyway?

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Speaker 6: The wife's dead, mister Cheswick?

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Speaker 8: Uh? Yes, but she died late last night. Found her

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at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital.

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Speaker 11: Oh, because I've been expecting something like that.

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Speaker 8: I can't feel sorry. Probably the best thing for ither

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have to.

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Speaker 6: But we're not sure.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if we could step outside triby a lot

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easier to talk with it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, fine, over here, we can duck out

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the back way.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 5: You say they found her at Georgia Street, huh?

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Speaker 6: Or was it she in an accident? I say it

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doesn't look like that.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to wait for the coroner's report.

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Speaker 6: What time do you check in at night for work,

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mister Cheswick.

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Speaker 5: We're supposed to be on the job by ten o'clock.

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I punched in before that tonight.

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Speaker 7: Why teen question?

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Speaker 11: I suppose I've been around the Planet'll watch for your

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check in a ten and you've been here ever since?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: You can ask any of them what's the pitch You.

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Speaker 7: Think I had something to do with it, Charlie getting killed?

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Speaker 6: Well, we didn't say that, Cheswick.

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Speaker 4: Your wife's dead and we have to check out all

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the leads, all the possible suspect.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know how it happened, but I didn't

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have anything. I lived nine years with her. I was

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just nine years of my life, booze parties, going out

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all the time.

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Speaker 5: She wasn't my wife. She didn't know what the word meant.

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Speaker 4: I understand she's been running around with different men lately.

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Do you have to know any of them?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't care less. Stupid dame, Sergeant. That's the easiest

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way you can let her off. I tried to make

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a go of it, wasn't any good. I worked for her,

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try to give her everything she wanted. Didn't make any difference.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a bum Some of them must be born

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that way of bum day.

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Speaker 5: I could have killed her. I had reason enough to.

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I didn't.

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Speaker 6: How about your wife's drinking him?

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Speaker 7: But did she do most of it at home or

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did you go out.

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Speaker 6: To the bars?

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Speaker 5: I always at the bar.

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Speaker 7: Only one place she ever went to place on Nathan

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Rosewood right on the corner. Went there all the time,

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six seven nights a week, hang over the bar all night.

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I'd like to put up with that for nine years,

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so drinking, going off somewhere and weekend I'll come. It

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lasted that long, Chesswick, I don't know. I guess I

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should have had my head examined her just the bomb.

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I figured I could change her. Kept trying. They were

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worked out. After drinking, she'd have these terrific headaches, would

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make her sick.

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Speaker 5: I'd stay home from.

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Speaker 7: Work and take care of her, wait on her hand

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and foot. She always made promises, nothing but a liar.

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Soon as she got well, she'd start it all over again,

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the same thing. Yeahs the bumb tramp, no good at all,

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no good.

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Speaker 5: Tramp, no good tramp.

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Speaker 6: Chadwick, mister Chesswick is.

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Speaker 5: All what you do, Carley, She's dead.

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Speaker 4: Probably when the dead woman's husband there was Cherswick recovered.

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We continued questioning him, but we got nowhere. Before we

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left the plant, we checked his time card, talked to

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the machine shop foreman and some of the men Chesswick

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worked with.

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Speaker 6: We got the same story. All along the line.

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Speaker 4: Chesswick had showed up for work at nine forty six

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pm the night before, and had not left the plant

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since that time.

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Speaker 6: Four thirty five am.

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Speaker 4: Bylla and I got in the car, drove back to

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the office and typed up a fifteen point seven report

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for Captain Wrman.

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Speaker 6: Eight thirty am.

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Speaker 4: Over in the County Morgue, the body of missus Cheswick

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was being posted.

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Speaker 6: A few minutes past ten.

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Speaker 4: Am, Bill Lockwood and I drove out to the bar

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in the corner of Eighth and Rosewood, the same bar

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where Ernest Cheswick told us his wife did most of

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her drinking with a typical neighborhood talk heal lounge in

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the early morning, two customers sipping beer at the bar

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under the bar, the manager busy.

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Speaker 6: Washing glasses and bringing in supply.

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Speaker 4: We called him over and identified ourselves.

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Speaker 7: Popular girl married, old Ernie Chesswick separated.

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Speaker 6: Now, yeah, do you know she was in here last night?

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Speaker 9: That's right?

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Speaker 7: She was hardly missus Knight.

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Speaker 4: Why would you have to know about what time she

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left last night?

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Speaker 8: Thirty about that mine? I sat frona there downtown in

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the bar' no better than me?

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Speaker 9: How's that he left with us?

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Speaker 3: You are listening to drag meth authentic stories of your

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police force and action.

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Speaker 4: November tenth, Thursday, ten fourteen am, the manager of the cocktail.

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Speaker 6: Lounge pointed out the man at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the bar who was supposed to have left the

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place shortly after eight o'clock the night before with the

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dead woman, Carla Cheswick.

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Speaker 6: Bill Lockwood and I.

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Speaker 4: Went up to the man, identified ourselves and questioned him briefly.

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He appeared tense and highly nervous. He told us his

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name was John Gables, an assistant sales manager for a

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downtown jewelry. Concerned, he didn't deny that he was in

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the bar the night before, but he refused to admit

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that he left with missus Cheswick. He insisted he didn't

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even know her. We asked him to a comper how

477
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he spent his time the night before.

478
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Speaker 7: He refused.

479
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Speaker 6: We got him a car and drove downtown.

480
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Speaker 4: To the City Hall while Bill took the suspect of

481
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the interrogation room.

482
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Speaker 6: I stopped by the R and I counter and had

483
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to make a run on Gables. He had no.

484
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Speaker 4: Previous criminal record. I called him morg but there was

485
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no report on the autopsy yet. Ten fifty two am

486
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I signed in at the office brief Captain Lorman on

487
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the developments, and then I haded down the hall for

488
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the interrogation room.

489
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Speaker 7: We had a couple of drinks together, and that's all

490
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it was to it. You didn't ask anybody who was there.

491
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She got up and left by herself. I didn't go

492
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with it. Jill Eables, who was just telling me you

493
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did see missus Cheswick in the bar last night. I

494
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had a couple of drinks with us.

495
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Speaker 6: Why did you hold out, Gable?

496
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Speaker 7: Why couldn't you told us that when we asked you,

497
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I didn't remember. Then you came up to me and

498
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the bar started asking questions. I got a rattle. Did

499
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make a different?

500
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Speaker 9: So?

501
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Speaker 7: I didn't even know her name, said those couple of

502
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drinks with him, and then she got up and left.

503
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That's all. I didn't go out with him. And the

504
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bartender says, you did, sure of it. He says he

505
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can get half of another people to back him up.

506
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He's wrong, He's got to be. He's thinking of somebody else.

507
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Speaker 6: Well, if you didn't leave the bar with miss Chesswick,

508
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when did you leave?

509
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Speaker 7: I don't know. At five to ten minutes later, I

510
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get where'd you go? Then I walked around a little bit,

511
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got a little fresh air, and I went to a show,

512
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which one I don't remember the name of the places.

513
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So n rose with a couple of blocks down from

514
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the bar or pictures you see. I'm not sure. I

515
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had a couple of drinks.

516
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Speaker 6: I went to the movies. You don't even know what

517
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you saw.

518
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Speaker 7: I told you I had a couple of drinks, feeling

519
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pretty good. I just don't remember that song. Not much

520
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of an hour bar gave us talking about it.

521
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Speaker 4: I don't mean Alabama's dead, mister, you were with her

522
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the last time she was seen alive.

523
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Speaker 7: It wasn't with her. I don't care what anybody tells you.

524
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Speaker 6: I wasn't with this movie. You say you went to

525
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What times you get.

526
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Speaker 7: Out at the midnight? I think I don't remember.

527
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Speaker 6: Where'd you go after that? Bar?

528
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Speaker 7: Had a few more drinks, and then I went back to

529
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my hotel. Which bar was a place on West Seventh.

530
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I'd go there sometimes. I know the bartender.

531
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Speaker 6: What times you leave there?

532
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Speaker 7: Closing time two o'clock? And then I went back to

533
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my hotel.

534
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Speaker 6: You say you know the bartender there, I guess he'd

535
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be glad to vouch for you. I mean that you

536
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were there when you said you were.

537
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Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe not. He was pretty busy last night,

538
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maybe didn't notice me. How about your hotel h the

539
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desk clerk, somebody like that. They should be able to

540
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tell what time you got in. Don't you think they

541
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wouldn't know. I always carry my key with me. I'd

542
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go into side door. They wouldn't know what time I

543
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got in.

544
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Speaker 6: What are you trying to sell? Mister? What are you

545
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talking about?

546
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Speaker 4: You knocked around town from eight o'clock last night till

547
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past two o'clock this morning. You can't think of anyone

548
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that could watch for you where you were, what time

549
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you got here, what time you left?

550
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Speaker 7: I can't think of anybody right now. I don't take

551
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down names and the dresses every time somebody looks at me.

552
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What's the difference, anyway? I didn't have anything to do

553
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with a girl.

554
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Speaker 4: This difference gable attendant at the hospital. He got a

555
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good look at the man who came in and asked

556
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for that wheelchair. He gave us a man's description that

557
00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:24,960
fits you pretty close, So it doesn't mean anything.

558
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Speaker 7: He could make a mistake too, just like that bartender.

559
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Speaker 6: They're all wrong. But you's know what you're trying to say.

560
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Speaker 7: Look, as far as I'm concerned, I only got one

561
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thing to say. I had a couple of drinks with

562
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Karla last night, and that's all. She left by herself.

563
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I didn't even go near the apark.

564
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Speaker 6: How do you know she had an apartment?

565
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Speaker 7: Well, you told me, you said, so, you know, we

566
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didn't say anything like that, And I guess I heard

567
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around the bar. Maybe she mentioned to me, Yeah, that's

568
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probably it.

569
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Speaker 6: Why don't you come off at Gables?

570
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Speaker 12: Come off what.

571
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Speaker 7: I don't even know what you getting.

572
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Speaker 4: We want a straight story, and we're not getting it.

573
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You told us she didn't even know the chairs with

574
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women before last night. You didn't even know her name,

575
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,799
that's right. And why did you say Carla? Just a

576
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:55,160
minute ago you said I had a couple of drinks

577
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with Carla. They say that that's what you're saying. Maybe

578
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I just hadn't remembered. I was drink quite a bit

579
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talking to her. Maybe I just remembered, won't.

580
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Speaker 7: Do Gables story, doesn't know water? How about it? I

581
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don't know. I was drinking quite a bit. A lot

582
00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:07,640
of things I don't remember.

583
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Speaker 6: How I've given it to a straight What do you remember?

584
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Speaker 7: I thought about it, thought about it all night. The

585
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more I went over, the worst it got. I just

586
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couldn't remember. I knew what it did sound like in court.

587
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I couldn't tell it that.

588
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Speaker 6: We couldn't tell what.

589
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Speaker 7: I didn't kill her. I didn't even touch it. You

590
00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:24,480
gotta believe that. I left the bar with her about

591
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eight fifteen, eight thirty. She invited me up to her apartment.

592
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She was pretty well gone. I had quite a few drinks,

593
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got there and had some more to drink, and Karla

594
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got up and started for the kitchen to get some

595
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more ice. She tripped, I think stumbled a little bit,

596
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and then she fell down. I think that's the way

597
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it was, all right, go on. She tried to get up,

598
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and then she fell again. Wasn't a bad fallow. I

599
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figured she just passed out. Got some cold towels, ice water.

600
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I tried to bring her around. It wasn't any good.

601
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She was white as a sheep. I got scared. I

602
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didn't know what happened.

603
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Speaker 6: What'd you do that?

604
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Speaker 7: I don't remember. I just kept trying to bring her around.

605
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I don't remember any of it very well. I don't

606
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even know why she fell down, could have hit her.

607
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Speaker 6: Gable.

608
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Speaker 7: Do you think maybe that's why she fell down? No,

609
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I don't know. I don't think so, I don't. I

610
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don't think I was mad at her for anything. I

611
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,519
think we were having a pretty good time. I just

612
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,480
don't remember, that's all. I'm not sure about any of it.

613
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It was no good at all.

614
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Speaker 6: Did you kill her? Gable?

615
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Speaker 7: No, Sergeant, I swear it, as far as I can remember,

616
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I didn't. We were having a good time, that's all

617
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I know. I know I wasn't mad. I'm not a

618
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nasty drunk, not as far as I can remember. Anyway,

619
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What did you do when you couldn't revive missus Cheswick?

620
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He brought her to the hospital.

621
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the shape I was.

622
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Speaker 7: In, I couldn't figure anything else to do. I got

623
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her in the car, drove down to Georgia Street. I

624
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put her in the elevator, pressed the button and sent

625
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her up. I'm a married man, you know. I didn't

626
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want any scandal. I didn't want to get involved, and.

627
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Speaker 6: You didn't feel he Is that what you want us

628
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to believe.

629
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Speaker 7: I don't know what to tell you. I don't remember

630
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if I killed her. I think i'd know it. I'm

631
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sure I would. I just don't remember. I got it.

632
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Speaker 6: Pterrogation room Friday time. Yeah, that's uh, this is I

633
00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:04,640
got a pencil I gave be sure. How was that?

634
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,279
I see?

635
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Speaker 4: No possibility? Yeah, I see. Okay, thanks a lot. Yeah, sure,

636
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,960
we'll pick it up later. Bye bye.

637
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Joe Corner's report just finished the autopsy.

638
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Speaker 4: Sorry, Gable s all right, it's all cleared up. What

639
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,599
do you mean while you're free to go if you like,

640
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:28,319
we're not gonnology?

641
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Speaker 6: What was the pitched? Joe Corner's report.

642
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Speaker 4: Primary cause of death was a massive cerebral hemorrhage hemorrhae

643
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into the ventricle.

644
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Speaker 7: Could have been a blow on the head, couldn't it?

645
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,680
You figured that could have done it.

646
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:36,839
Speaker 6: No.

647
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Speaker 4: Secondary cause was a brain tumor, a big one. Corner says,

648
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she's had it for years. It must have caused her

649
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a lot of pain. Probably would have counted for the

650
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drinking and the tumor. Wrote on their hemorrhage. That's what's

651
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:47,200
killed her, I.

652
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Speaker 6: Say, Corner says. Erosion of the blood vessel.

653
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Speaker 4: By a brain tumor probably grew caused pressure on a

654
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blood vessel finally gave way caused the hemorrhage, and.

655
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Speaker 7: That killer if she just died, I didn't have anything

656
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to do. She died and I didn't kill her.

657
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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that's right. Feel free to go if you want.

658
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 7: Thank God, you know officers, I'll tell you the truth.

659
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,079
I didn't know the answer. I didn't know if I

660
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killed or not.

661
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Speaker 6: I really didn't.

662
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 7: Drinking so much, I came to and there she was dead.

663
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I didn't know what happened. I really didn't. I didn't

664
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know the answer.

665
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 6: Now you went up on that stable. We thought we did.

666
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:32,599
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

667
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were changed to protect the innocence.

668
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Speaker 3: On Thursday, November tenth, the meeting was held in the

669
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office of Captain of Homicide. In a moment the results

670
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of that meeting, with the filing of the official autopsy

671
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report by the county coroner, John Gables was cleared of

672
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,079
all charges. He was released from custody immediately. The death

673
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of missus Carla Cheswick was listed as due to natural

674
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causes by the Coroner's Jury.

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Speaker 6: Ladies and Gentlemen.

676
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Speaker 2: Last year's traffic death toll was thirty seven five hundred,

677
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a seven percent increase over nineteen fifty The National Safety

678
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Council believes that the best way to promote safety on

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the road is for each of us to know and

680
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:18,519
obey traffic laws.

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Speaker 6: To read and heed traffic signs. So be careful.

682
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Speaker 2: The life you save may be your own.

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Speaker 3: You have just heard drag myth a series of authentic

684
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cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office

685
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of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police

686
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Department Technical advisors Captain Jack Donaho's Sergeant Marty Wynn, Sergeant

687
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Fans Bracier heard tonight were Martin Milner, Vic Perrin, and Gwendolino.

688
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Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann. Hel Gibney speaking.

689
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Speaker 7: Now it's coveror Spy on NBC.

690
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. There are a couple of moments in this

691
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,839
episode that I really appreciated. The questioning of the husband,

692
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:30,960
Ernest Cheswick really captures a lot of emotion. He spent

693
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:35,480
nine years trying to get the relationship to work, is

694
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:41,480
still paying the rent, but is now in this separated status.

695
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,799
And in this brief scene you capture the sort of

696
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:52,240
anger and frustration at the broken promises and the end

697
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,559
of this self destructive cycle. But then Finally, when that's

698
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,279
all done, you get to the real core sadness that

699
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:04,559
this person you spent nearly a decade with is gone,

700
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,720
and I appreciate the emotional complexity of that scene. Very

701
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:15,200
well done. And then the interrogation, which shows how sometimes

702
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,160
someone in a less than ideal situation might have trouble

703
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,359
giving account of themselves to the police even though they're innocent.

704
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And it also shows the danger of leaning too heavily

705
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:36,759
into a solution before a full investigation was done. This

706
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,680
wasn't a case where they leapt as far as Friday

707
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,759
and Jacobs did in the Big Casing, but it still

708
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:47,640
shows that you can get out in front of the evidence,

709
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:53,599
particularly with Friday's closing line. Listener comments and feedback now

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and we go to YouTube for some comments on the

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Big Show. Catherine rits a great ending, and Mildred writes,

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I have fond memories of the Greyhound Buys station when

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it was on sixth and Los Angeles Street. And also

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I had a manager whose wife cheated on him and

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got pregnant with someone else's baby. Instead of getting divorced,

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he raised the sun as if it was his own.

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I'm not sure if the boy ever knew that the

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man who raised him was not his real father. Well,

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thanks so much, and I guess that is an example

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of that story in the episode happening in real life.

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Then we have some comments on our listeners survey and

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uh Jeremy writes. Uh Uh in Toronto writes when answering

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what aspect I enjoy most about this podcast, the survey

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only allowed me to pick one between the hosts content

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and guest. I selected content, but I feel that separate

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separating the host from the content is a bit of

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a disservice to the host. Adam grant their many shoes.

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I could choose to listen to with similar programming, but

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I choose to listen to the great detectives of Old

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time Radio because of the insightful, professional, and entertaining commentary

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provided by the host. Adam's commentary is an important portion

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of the content of the show. Well, thanks so much, Jeremy.

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I appreciate the perspective. And David over in Scotland says

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the show is fantastic. I love the Sherlock Holmes series,

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and Paul writes anything with Philip marlowin. I assume that

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Paul approved of our vacation week programs. Well, now it's

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time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and

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I want to go ahead and thank Damien, Patreon supporter

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since March twenty twenty four, currently supporting the podcast at

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the rookie level of two dollars or more per month.

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Thanks so much for your support. That will do it

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for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us

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using your favorite podcast software and be sure to rate

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will be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet.

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But join us back here tomorrow for another episode of

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Yours Truly Johnny Dollar, where.

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Speaker 12: If you are.

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Speaker 13: Willing to pay me, will if you can dig up

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the information I want, I'll maybe you a check for

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one hundred bucks American immediately journey only.

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Speaker 12: For in the steam booth services.

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Speaker 13: Okay, two hundred Now listen, there's a little idol, the

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mailing Buddha.

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Speaker 12: It will. I saw it only this morning here in Paris,

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where at the shop of Monsieur dubuisson On he was

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mored in only a few weeks ago. And the price

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on it well, for such aware and exquisite piece, most

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reasonable how much time? Thirty two million francs.

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Speaker 7: Good, that's around eighty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: So it must be the McCoy.

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Speaker 12: You wish me to. Shall we see upteam it for you?

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Speaker 6: You mean steal it? What?

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Speaker 12: Of course?

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Speaker 7: With you?

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Speaker 12: But for our price?

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Speaker 8: No, no, think I hope.

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Speaker 1: You'll be with us then in the meantime, send your

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comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, follow

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Se Ataho. This is your host, Adam Graham, sogn and

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