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How are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Pete, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I'm super excited. Democrats
have secured a victory in getting the Maryland Man returned
to America. They have fought so hard for Maryland Man
to get back into America and now it's going to happen.
Total and complete victory and vindication for Democrats. That's how
I read it.
Speaker 2: Well, one would think so, except that he's been charged
with human smuggling and conspiracy to commit alien smuggling, as
well as firearms charges and other launder list of issues.
And the Trump DJ has basically said, once he faces
these charges and sentences he sentenced, he's going to go
back twelve Salvador.
Speaker 1: So other than that, but other than the federal indictment
and all of that, total victory for Democrats.
Speaker 2: Of course, because the process or something right right.
Speaker 1: Do process right. So we're talking about kill mar again
with these Dickenzian names. Kill Maar Garcia. The Maryland man.
This is the guy that we were told is just
the I think he first started as a Maryland father
or Maryland dad, and then they just went Maryland man.
And so anyway, the Maryland man that was like the
poster child for you know, Donald Trump, the evil you know,
orange hitler man deporting just this Marylynd man. He's just
a dad. He's just you know, regular guy who happened
to you know, sneak into the country like what twelve
years ago or something like that, and so he got
deported back to his native country of El Salvador, but
he wasn't supposed to be deported to El Salvador. He
was supposed to be deported two different immigration courts ruled
him to be deported, but he wasn't supposed to go
back to El Salvador. So they messed up. And so
I was saying, like from the beginning, well, just bring
him back and then fly him someplace else. Problem solved,
But apparently.
Speaker 2: We were some confusion with the L. Salvador thing too.
And the finally is that Trump administration put forth. Basically
it said that yeah, he is from El Salvador, it
should go back there. His family had moved to a
different country at one point, but he didn't go with them.
He went to the border instead, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also the imminent threat that he said he
couldn't go back to L Salvador because to this Eighteenth
Street gang would whack him because of his mom's business,
that she was running out of her house or something.
But yeah, turns out.
Speaker 2: That more about the fact he was MS thirteen.
Speaker 1: Well that's a little bit of a detail, yes, And
also the mom's business is no longer operating, so that's
off the table. Oh, and also the Eighteenth Street gang
has been completely crushed by the President of l Salvador
that came in on this get tough on crime platform
that the people voted for. And so there really wasn't
a threat there either. And now I'm going to go
out on a limb, but I read through the indictments
that came down from the grand jury out of Tennessee
for this guy Garcia, now, and there's a there's a
refers in there to the murder of an Eighteenth Street
gang member's mother that Garcia may have been, may have
been a part of or something. And that might actually
be why the Eighteenth Street gang bangers wanted to whack him,
was because he may have whacked somebody else's mother.
Speaker 2: Yes, And the indictment also alleges that he was part
of the same smuggling ring that was responsible over the
death of over fifty migrants in twenty twenty one. I
think we all remember that tractor trailer that overturned, yep,
And I think it was coming through Mexico into Texas
and there were a bunch of it killed a bunch
of migrants in there. Yeah, fifty people country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lost their lives as part of their smuggling operation.
Which this federal indictment goes through. They've got I think
it was, was it six different co conspirators. They were
just listed like CC one, two, three, four, five, six, whatever,
And so they docum meant how and again this is
a federal it's a grand jury, so we have to
always you know, the caveat and indicting a ham sandwich
and all of that. The defense doesn't get to be there.
They don't get to present evidence. So with all of
those caveats said, they outline how Garcia has been involved
in this human trafficking ring for nine years. Nine years
he has made more than one hundred trips from the
border from the Mexican border throughout the entire camerl and yeah.
Speaker 2: To other places. And the indictment also talks about how
he solicited nude photographs and videos of a minor and
that he would sexually abuse the female that he was smuggling,
which they used giant SUVs. They would rip out the
back floorboards and put their drugs or guns. You know,
he was also drug and gun trafficking charges were in there.
They would put all the people, the drugs or the
guns in there and then put the floorboards back and
then till they were smuggling them in these SUVs, they.
Speaker 1: Ripped out the back seats or whatever. They added a
row of seats. Remember we saw this when the there
was I think a foyer request from a Tennessee newspaper.
They got somehow or another, they got a tip that
this guy had been popped by Tennessee Highway patrol and
there was bodycam footage still on file from the law
enforcement officers that pulled him over, and they were interviewing Garcia,
and they were talking about how they had this extra
row of seats so he was able in this Chevy suburban.
He was able to transport like nine people at a time.
And the cops were a little suspicious because he said
he was bringing them up to work in like Saint
Louis or something for construction work. But they had no luggage.
It was very odd, no luggage in the car, yet
you are bringing them to Saint Louis for a construction job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that video a video is available on YouTube. It's
a simple search for it. All you have to do
is put you know, Kilmar Garcia, Tennessee cops and boom,
it pops right up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is Okay, so it's not okay, maybe
it's not quite the total win for Democrats here that
they were hoping for. You have a quote here or
you're yeah, you were talking about in your piece. Maryland
Democrats like Senator Chris van Holland are calling Garcia's return
a due process win. So I'm curious how they go
about separating Now this indictment has outlined these allegations, how
do they go about separating themselves from just the due
process argument that they were making for Oh, now we
do have this guy and he is pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this is a pattern that we've been seeing
for months now where they're defending criminal aliens who, you know,
a lot of them have commenced sparely said crimes, and
they're all they're all crying about, you know, due process
for these folks. Well, these folks were here illegally in
the first place. Okay, they a lot of them already
had deportation sort around. That's due process.
Speaker 1: That is due process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, I'm not sure how how defending
these folks is a win for them, considering the polling
has the majority of Americans saying they want not only
the criminals gone, but they want everyone gone right, So
we'll see where that plays out. But I mean we're
seeing a win play out right now in California with
Governor Knews. Yeah, I mean, he's got out of control
riots which are being orchestrated by a group that's tied
to a Mexican National Marxist group. From what I'm reading.
The New York Post had an article about this, about
this organization that's, you know, pumping up these these riots
there and how there's actually a connection to former Vice
President Kamala Harris, who apparently patted this group on the
back several years ago. Is doing good work.
Speaker 1: Well, well, has she started a fund to bail out
the rioters?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 1: That's the that's the real key, all right. So let
me shift gears real quick, because here's a story that
I had told and I had not gotten to yet.
So I was happy to see that you wrote about
it over at North State Journal. The Buncombe County Jail
apparently not too good with the bookkeeping when it comes
to the inmates funds. Like when you get arrested, if
you have a bunch of money on you, they take
that money from you and you they write it down
or whatever, and apparently what they they hadn't been returning
all of the money to everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the State Owner's office didn't investigate about audit after
they received a tip. And what they found was that
the Buncomee County sheriffs Office had quote, did not return
nineteen two and seventy two dollars to nineteen hundred and
fourteen individuals that were released from custody. In some cases,
those inmates were ote thousands of dollars, and the audit
found that no one in the Sheriff's office was a
sureing the funds were returned during the inmate release process.
For one example, an inmate was released in April twenty
twenty three and they were old over forty eight hundred dollars,
so you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so show me the money. So they did.
So the audit found they also were not reconciling what's
called the inmate fund bank account. And this is where
like if I got locked up and you wanted to
give me money so I can buy cigarettes or I
could buy food or whatever, in the.
Speaker 2: Commissary the commentsary account.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you could put money into those accounts whatever,
and so that was all out of whack too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three hundred and fifty four thousand, eight hundred and
four dollars of unsupported balance, so not a lot bank fund.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not a lot. There's this is three
hundred and fifty thousand, you know, give or take. So
all right, so they so the auditor does this audit,
and from what I read in your piece, the sheriff,
Quentin Miller up there the Sheriff's office is like, yeah, yeah,
we'll fix this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they're just basically he didn't disagree, and he
said that, you know, we need to get a different
way of doing our ledger. There was some turnover and
you know, some of it didn't some of the duties
didn't transfer over the way they should have. And so
they're they're going to do internal reimbursement process, you know,
a way to get things you know, put through when
when they're released during their release process. But also you
know tracking the commissary problem. So that was that was
a nice chunk of change, you know, similar to an
audit that they just did it on the Swanna Noah
Care facility where they were finding that you know, hundreds
of thousands of dollars were spent millions of dollars actually
were spent on this care facility in Swanna Noah after
Hurricane Heleen, which you know, it had laundries and showers
and this kind of stuff, and that's great, folks needed
that kind of stuff, But did they really need to
be Did we really need to be paying over two
hundred and twenty dollars per load of laundry is what
the auditor found. So that was kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes, So the auditor already doing some pretty good work
in rooting some of this stuff out and hopefully we
can you know, rain some of this in. Now, I
know there's a bit of a running contest between Wait County,
Buncom County, and Mecklimer County as to who has the
worst sheriff. So I would put this audit of the
Buncome County jail clearly in Buncome County's score column, you know,
for worst sheriff, for the running for the worst sheriff.
So I feel like I have to make a note
of it because you know, I mean, now, look, nobody,
he doesn't have employees stabbing each other like we have
in Mecklimer County. But still, this is this goes on
the ledger for him.
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, definitely.
Speaker 1: Ap Dylon. You could read her work at North State
Journal NSG online. Also subscribe to her newsletter. More to
the story on substack. Thanks ap We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 2: Thanks Pete.
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I said there before that we're in this running for
worst sheriff in North Carolina, you know. And I do
give credit where it's due to the Bunkham County Sheriff
and keeping all of the inmates money and such. But
they're totally going to fix it now. But still that's
a bit of a that's a negative or positive in
the contest for worse shriff. But you just got to
give it about forty eight hours and sheriff not my fault.
McFadden here in Mecklenburg. He will come through. He'll pull
ahead again. And he did, he absolutely did. So I
get a press release. This did not contain a photo
of him the top third of the piece of paper.
It's usually like his big picture, like one third of
the press releases have his picture on it, but this
one didn't. I thought that was odd. Why doesn't he
have his photo on this one? Well, here it is
the Mecklimberk County Sheriff's office extends its deepest sympathy to
the Zeller's family. We recognize the profound grief you continue
to carry after the tragic loss of your son, and
we are truly sorry for the additional pain caused by
seeing the accused in recent media coverage promoting a detention
center program. Yeah, the Sheriff's office they refurbished a room
in the in the jail and they made it into
a recording studio, and so it gives the inmates a
chance to you know, do their rapping skills and such. Yeah,
they built a music studio for the inmates. And the
media coverage that they obviously coordinated with the Sheriff's office,
they like did a big reveal. You know, here's the studio.
Let's look at some inmates and the you know, the
camera crews in there getting video of people playing music
and singing or working the board or whatever. And the
guy that's that's there that they brought in is an
accused murderer. From November, this was the story from Queens
City News at the time. One person has died after
a shooting at an apartment complex in northeast Charlotte. This
was November nineteenth, West arrowhead drive. One person pronounced dead
at the scene. Well, they apparently picked up somebody suspected
in the murder. He's been at the jail and he
enrolled in the music program. And that's the guy. Think
about that, your loved one has been murdered and the
accused murderer is now on TV with the sheriff spinning
all the hits. Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office does not typically
notify families when residents are involved in media coverage. Inmates
are involved, he calls them residents inmates are involved in
media coverage. However, in this case, we acknowledge that given
the circumstances, this should not have warrant or this should
have warranted greater sensitivity. While outreach is not standard procedure,
we sincerely apologize for failing to understand how this would
affect the Zellers. Yeah, see, kind of a blind spot there,
kind of a big blind spot, never thinking about the
inmates as accused of doing a horrible thing to somebody else.
All programs are voluntary in the center. We understand there
may be concerns when families see if someone accused of
a serious crime participating in a rehabilitative program. However, we
help all residents with healing and rehabilitation. The purpose of
our programs is not to determine guilt or innocence, but
to offer support and structure for those willing to engage
in change. The program in questions part of a broader
initiative to provide voluntary rehabilitative opportunities to residence in our care.
As mentioned, these programs are not based on the nature
of an individual's charging, but rather on their conduct while
in custody and their willingness to reflect on the circumstances
that brought them to the detention center, confront addictions, address
mental health challenges, and work towards becoming better citizens. This
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tax dollars are being used for a music studio in
the jail. That's yeah, I cannot defend that, but that's
what our sheriff has done. Gary not my fault. McFadden
built a studio in the in the jail so the inmates,
or as he calls them, the residents, can can rehabilitate
themselves through music. And when they did the big press reveal,
you know, they invited media in and they had an
inmate in there to show them like, this is what
he's working on, this is how you use the thing,
and isn't this awesome? And turns out that inmate is
an accused murderer, and the sheriff's office never reached out
to the victim's family to let them know, Hey, we're
going to use your son's killer in this promotional video
for our music studio. So if you want to use
the music studio, just commit some crimes and then get
yourself arrested and then you can get access to the studio.
It's like promotion, you know, it's like advertising. This is
what we call in the biz earned media. You know,
where you do something in the media comes to cover it,
so you don't have to pay for the advertising and marketing.
You just get coverage. So it's earned media, and they
never called the parents. They never called the family. They
never told the Zeller's family that this accused murderer is
going to be splashed across all of the newscasts. And
so think about it, like they're sitting around and all
of a sudden, you know, they're watching a newscast and
then they see their loved one's murderer being portrayed in
this way of a guy who's on the path to rehabilitation.
He hasn't even stood trial for the murder yet. But
the Sheriff's office did put out a press release and
it said to the Zeller's family, your voice matters, your
loss matters. We are committed to learning from this and
doing better moving forward. Yeah, just think about the victims.
That's all that's really, That's like the first thing you
need to do is just don't think first about the
inmate in that press availability. Maybe think of somebody else first.
I'm just kidding, No, it's the sheriff, he can't do that,
but uh, you know, maybe somebody on staff think of
the victims. Because everybody that's in that jail, virtually everybody
in the jail. I'm trying to think of a circumstance
or situation where somebody's in the jail that has not
victimized somebody else. Chances are if you're in the jail,
you have victimized somebody else, right, So maybe think of
every single resident of your jail as also a victim
and that victim's family, even if the victim isn't dead,
like in this case, you've got other people that were
still victimized but they survived and their family and all
of the trauma surrounding that. Think about them, you know,
maybe put that front and center in every thing that
you do. That every one of the people that come through.
I'm not saying you treat them badly or anything like that.
I'm saying maybe think first that everybody you see, there
is another person that's not there in front of you,
and those are the victims, and then there are other
people attached to them, the victims' families. But they did
say we are committed to learning from this and doing
better moving forward. You have our continued respect, our sympathy,
and our sincere apologies. So credit where it's due. At
least he apologized, or whoever it was that wrote the
press release did so. At least somebody at the sheriff's
office apologized for that. Chris says, wait a minute, Pete,
So Bunkhom County mishandled nineteen thousand dollars and then another
three hundred and fifty thousand that they weren't reconciling. What
did the Mecklenberg ought to find? Surely we have higher
numbers than Charlotte. If it's higher than Buncom, we will
have to detract one point from Sheriff Gary not my
fault macfadden. However, if it's less than Bunkom or zero,
we will have to award Gary not my fault McFadden
plus three points for successfully cleaning out their books. Right,
So there was not an audit done of the Mecklenburg
Sheriff's office and the jail accounts, so we don't know.
I'm not alleging anything because I don't know. The Buncom
County audit was done after tips were given to the
state auditor, and that's how the auditor's office gets wind
of these things to investigate. So if you are aware
of something, or you have suspicions about something, you should
call or go online and file a complaint or give
a tip to the State Auditor's Office, and that's how
they they identify things to investigate. Again, I have no
knowledge or any evidence or I've never even heard of
anything like what happened and bunk them happening here. So
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Got a tweet from Big b it's a pet tweet,
who says fyi the Youth Development Center and Concord has
also built a music studio for the offenders, and they
have the latest in video game technology. See that all
you have to do is engage in criminal behavior and
you too can access these music studios. Let me circle back,
as Jen Pisaki might say, to the La riots real quick.
We covered this in the first two hours of the program.
So if you're listening on the podcast, thank you very much,
by the way, but you can go back and listen
because we post three podcasts per day, one for each
of the hours. And what's interesting and the media reaction
to the riots is this new found or maybe I
should say a rediscovered sense of the complexities and nuances
when trying to cover riots. And we are hearing a
lot of things like you know, there were peaceful protesters
and then some bad actors engaged in the violence, right
and we heard this also during the Black Lives Matter,
fiery but mostly peaceful protests as well. And yes there
is another apparently the teachers' unions organizing some massive nationwide
protest against ICE on June fourteenth. They've got cities apparently
Asheville has already given a permit for this anti ice demonstration.
So these days of action, this is you know, Marxism.
But also keep in mind that, as Corey DeAngelis points out,
the K twelve government schools rely on head counts for funding.
So if you deport people and they take their kids
with them, then you lower the school enrollment numbers, and
then that means you lower the money that the teachers'
unions get a chunk of. So just keep that in mind.
But regarding the complexities and the nuances of you know,
good people on both sides. Oh no, no, sorry, that's
the wrong. Sorry, that's the wrong protest. But you know,
not everybody was rioting. And I'm hearing this from various
media people and Derek Hunter over at town hall dot com.
He points out the difference in the way this is
being approached now and it was during BLM versus j six.
He says, remember how nuanced guys like Brian Stelter at CNN,
who was a Potato, was about how new Brian was
about j six in differentiating between people who were fighting
with the cops and then the others who just walked
in the doors that were held open by police. No,
they didn't. They gave no distinction to those different types
of people that were at the Capitol that day. It
did not matter to them if you were escorted into
the building, if a cop held a door for you
and allowed you to walk in. They wanted you tried
for trees and just like the guys who were busting
windows and you know, dressed up like Vikings. Michael Schellenberger,
former liberal, wrote the book San Francisco, and he's on
Twitter also, he's got a sub stack as well. He says,
a lot of people are upset about these images of
violent protesters in Los Angeles waving the Mexican flag. If
they loved Mexico so much, why are they so upset
at enforcing our laws against illegal entry. To fully appreciate
their significance, it's important to understand that over the last
several decades, the people who run California and its major
cities came to a new consensus a large number of
our laws were racist and oppressive. Democrats increasingly viewed laws
against illegal camping, open air drug dealing, shoplifting, burglary, arson,
and unlawful border crossing not as tools for protecting neighborhoods
and preserving public space, but rather as tools for putting
poor people and racial minorities in prison. This idea took
root that order itself was a facade, simply a way
for the rich and comfortable to criminalize the marginalized. So
one by one, democrats stopped enforcing and weakened laws against
drug dealing, illegal camping, prostitution, defecation, drug use on sidewalks.
Cities stopped enforcing anti camping ordinances. State leaders directed prosecutors
not to charge certain drug crimes. Federal immigration laws were
nullified by city policy in the name of compassion, Progressives
dismantled the foundations of public order. Over the last few days,
we have seen the consequences of this ideology erupt in
the streets of Los Angeles. Protesters attacked federal agents during
ice operations, hurled bricks and fireworks at them, torched vehicles,
defaced public buildings. All of it was filmed and cheered
and amplified on social media. These were not quiet acts
of nonviolent protest. All right, that'll do it for this episode.
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