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<v Speaker 1>Six news great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hello, can you hear me? You cannot hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, very loud, amazing, Oh okay, I turn it down,

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<v Speaker 1>am I good? And we can hear you. Sis. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>How are you welcome? Welcome?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be here to talk to you about these headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>So happy to have you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Now let's give the people some context. Where are you

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<v Speaker 3>joining us from? How did you become so on point?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you are one of these people that I just

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<v Speaker 3>came across on the internets who never misses. You've always

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<v Speaker 3>landed on the right side of right, and I'm always.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, exactly, yes, exactly. So can you please tell

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<v Speaker 1>people a little bit yourself. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am joining you from Minneapolis, Minnesota. I am

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<v Speaker 2>a law professor. I teach constitutional law at the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Minnesota. I focus on the First Amendment, speech and

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<v Speaker 2>press through a critical race theory lens, and that means

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<v Speaker 2>I spend a lot of time with the ancestors. And

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<v Speaker 2>as long as you spend time with the ancestors, you

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<v Speaker 2>go end up on the right side of history.

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<v Speaker 1>If you spend time with them.

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<v Speaker 2>You heat they lessons, right, you treat them as whole

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<v Speaker 2>human beings, full of nuanced and complexity.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be on the right side. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of when you got right over

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<v Speaker 1>your shows. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I got itavia back there. Look, I got marredin up

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<v Speaker 2>there kind of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep them all together, let's see, I see you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of what I do is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think about the way in which democracy is experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>a racialized state, and right now we're at an inflection

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<v Speaker 2>point of that. So I think, you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know it before, but I was being prepared for this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I have something meaningful to say, so I try to

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<v Speaker 2>use that as best stocking.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's just a random question I'm throwing out to you

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<v Speaker 3>because I was thinking about it this morning. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was on the road this week, someone asked me, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what is gonna be the difference? Because I keep telling

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<v Speaker 3>people like Israel is about to colonize the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if they don't say it that way, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's actually happening. I don't know if y'all know this,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were flying the Israel flag on the White

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<v Speaker 3>House yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I saw a video the other day of

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<v Speaker 3>somebody I can't remember who it was, but they were

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<v Speaker 3>hugging Donald Trump saying he's the first Jewish president. So

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<v Speaker 3>like this is a real thing happened either, And so

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<v Speaker 3>I told them, I said, well, we're going to experience apartheid,

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<v Speaker 3>but in a much more outward fashion, like they're already

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<v Speaker 3>talking about we're going to have to start carrying our

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<v Speaker 3>passports because IDs are not going to be enough. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we are already experiencing a certain level of apartheid,

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<v Speaker 3>first with white people in this nation and the way

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<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department deals with them differently, but also in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that we see Zionis being dealt with differently,

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<v Speaker 3>because the First Amendment rights that are given to Zionists

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<v Speaker 3>are not given to people who are Propoucinian. So have

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<v Speaker 3>you started to kind of expand at all your lens

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<v Speaker 3>under of looking through the racialized lens to include Zionism?

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<v Speaker 2>Meth So, what I tell people is that the United

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<v Speaker 2>States has never not been a racialized apartheid. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>typically been confined to.

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<v Speaker 1>The darkest folks and the folks who.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the darkest folks, I mean black folks, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so what we're seeing I want people to stop

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<v Speaker 2>treating what we're seeing as an aberration. The problem is

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<v Speaker 2>just that we don't know this nation's history, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>also on purpose, and so we think how Zionism is

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<v Speaker 2>being treated is somehow an aberration, or the Antifa attacks

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<v Speaker 2>are an aberration. We have never allowed people who were

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<v Speaker 2>pro humanity, who were pro civil rights, who were pro

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<v Speaker 2>human rights to speak freely in this country. It is

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<v Speaker 2>part of the foundational structure. It is part of this

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<v Speaker 2>country's architecture. There's a great line by W. E. B.

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<v Speaker 2>Du Bois where he's testifying in front of Congress and

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about how the United States creates which words

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<v Speaker 2>to stop people from speaking freely. And he says, at

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<v Speaker 2>first the rich word, the witch word, was abolitionists, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was socialists and communists. And I would argue,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the climate, the context in which he's speaking

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<v Speaker 2>at that moment, but I would argue that now that

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<v Speaker 2>word is terrorist, Oh absolutely, And so we levy it

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<v Speaker 2>of course at pro Palestine protesters, because we have this

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<v Speaker 2>architecture in place.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just now repurposed it for the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Even all of the things that Project twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you're going to get to Project twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six or the revamp of it are doing are

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<v Speaker 2>actually a continuation of the history of this kind of architecture.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that they fought so hard and been so

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<v Speaker 2>effective at keeping this history out of school, at keeping

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<v Speaker 2>it out of the mainstream media, at keeping it inaccessible,

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<v Speaker 2>that people don't have it to frame what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>this moment. So it's not actually like we're moving in

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<v Speaker 2>a new direction. It's just that what's been confined to

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<v Speaker 2>the mark and to black folks and to pro human

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<v Speaker 2>folks is now reaching the mainstream, is now migrating to

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of society, and they're trying to establish it

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<v Speaker 2>as the paradigm explicitly in a way that it's historically

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been laundered under the patriotism, under the security banner.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still trying it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not as effective, and if it's not effective,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll use brute force. I think that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the difference of anything, is that we're entering up we

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<v Speaker 2>will brute force everyone. We used to just do it

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<v Speaker 2>to black folks and socialists and communists. Now we will

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<v Speaker 2>make you into the person we need to do it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but isn't the new part what they're contextualizing it into.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like I never heard of anti

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<v Speaker 3>zion I never heard of anti Semitism, or I never

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<v Speaker 3>heard of anti Semitism as a brute force effort, as

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<v Speaker 3>a brute force tool until the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that certainly this is the latest iteration of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's important. So why That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get at. I keep I feel like people.

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<v Speaker 3>Are really not riding with me on this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right, and I need y'all to understand this because

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<v Speaker 3>the people in these positions are Zionists. Like at one

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<v Speaker 3>point in time, it used to be, oh, everybody's white

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<v Speaker 3>in these positions, and now it's that everybody is a

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<v Speaker 3>Zionist in these positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the legal field in the United States is very

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<v Speaker 1>much run by.

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<v Speaker 3>Zionists, right, Like the actual Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they may not be Jewish, but they're Zionists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think Zionism, right, now the political

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<v Speaker 2>Zionism that you're talking about is the nucleus a Zionism.

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<v Speaker 1>There is sure sure won't disagree Israel right right right,

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<v Speaker 1>right right right, right right right. That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Like, if we think about what Israel represents right

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<v Speaker 2>on the global geopolitical stage, it is the culmination of

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<v Speaker 2>what all of these earlier iterations have represented, right is

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<v Speaker 2>it is so so there are three things I argue

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<v Speaker 2>will always provoke the most violent response from the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And why you didn't see the kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of violent response at the No Kings protests, right it

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<v Speaker 2>is anti white supremacy, anti militarism, and anti capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>If you attack any of these three things, and especially.

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<v Speaker 2>If you attack them all, you will provoke the most

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<v Speaker 2>violent response from the state. Right, on many levels, Israel

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<v Speaker 2>functions as a proxy for the United States for those efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>For those pursuits.

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<v Speaker 2>It is when you talk about building what do they

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<v Speaker 2>call it, the riviera or whatever they're talking about building

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<v Speaker 2>in the Gaza strip, When you talk about the defense

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<v Speaker 2>contracts and the amount of money that's flowing over there,

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about the history of colonialism, when you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about colonization and the eradication of indigenous people. You

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<v Speaker 2>are speaking to the heart of white supremacy. You are

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to the heart of the military industrial complex, you

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<v Speaker 2>are speaking to the heart of capitalism. And so those

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<v Speaker 2>elements of our society are the foundational building blocks of

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<v Speaker 2>this country and have always been, and so anytime you

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to make inroads into reallocating the power that

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<v Speaker 2>has a mass within that structure, you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>provoke the most violent response. The Palestine Israel conflict is

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<v Speaker 2>the latest front of that in our society and one

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<v Speaker 2>that we're all intimately connected to in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen in those past iterations because of how

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<v Speaker 2>social media is functioning, because of the way that the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet has allowed us to connect to one another. But

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<v Speaker 2>you had a I mean, a lot of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we're seeing deporting people, vilifying people, attacking universities, we

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<v Speaker 2>saw in the early nineteen hundreds and early twentieth century

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<v Speaker 2>with communists and socialist movements. We saw with civil rights

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<v Speaker 2>activists during the sixties, from the forties to the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw during the Antebellum period with abolitionists. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>that we all weren't watching it unfold on our phones,

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<v Speaker 2>and we didn't have those real on the ground account

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<v Speaker 2>to compare it to the propagandized media machine, political machine

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<v Speaker 2>that was fast at work in a way that now

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of have this to mitigate, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is making us more engaged, which is why this one

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<v Speaker 2>feels so visceral. This one feels so poignant because we're

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing it in a way that we haven't experienced these

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<v Speaker 2>earlier iterations.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the United States, United States.

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<v Speaker 3>It is I just I think that we are shortsighted

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<v Speaker 3>in thinking that this is about the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just gonna say that I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what we I think that that that's the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I'm trying to get us intellectuals to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of expound upon, is because we're literally seeing Zionists steal

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<v Speaker 3>property in the United States the same way they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>in Palestine. I just saw a man who is uh

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<v Speaker 3>serving time right now for stealing twenty homes. He sold

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<v Speaker 3>twenty people's homes in New York grand larceny, and the

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<v Speaker 3>judge for his next case said, you know what, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give you time served, and so for this for

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<v Speaker 3>these new twenty homes that he's because he already was

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<v Speaker 3>serving time for something else. So now he's serving time now.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on trial for twenty homes that he stole

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<v Speaker 3>in Brooklyn, to my understanding, and the judge gave him

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<v Speaker 3>time served, and he's not going to serve a day longer.

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<v Speaker 1>But this also mirrors Donald He's and he's a he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's doing He's a Zionist. He is a Jews Hionist.

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<v Speaker 2>This also mirrors, though Donald Trump pardoning the home healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>guy who stole the millions of dollars, and then him

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<v Speaker 2>partning the drug trafficker guy from Honduras. And what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to say, so I would say two things

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<v Speaker 2>back to what you said about about I would say

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<v Speaker 2>one thing in response to the this is not about

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. And one of the ways I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that is really evident. I saw someone on Democracy

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<v Speaker 2>Now summarize this really well, and they were explaining that.

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<v Speaker 1>They were saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>This group of people, the cabal of folks who exist

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<v Speaker 2>It's just one more hub that these people used to

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And so I think it's important for us to

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<v Speaker 2>There is a priority for these people to make it,

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<v Speaker 2>Right On the flip side, though, the other reason I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I think you're right about the way Zionism

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<v Speaker 2>have been Listen, this is about some fundamental priorities for

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<v Speaker 3>This their agenda is to be one of the tools, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like their their agenda is is to take Like it

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<v Speaker 1>You're run by marble villains. I mean, it's absolutely marble

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<v Speaker 3>So I just find that as I'm watching these things happen,

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them are trash. I would go even further.

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<v Speaker 2>I think our focus on individuals is the problem. This

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<v Speaker 2>the architecture. These are the leaders it's going to produce.

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<v Speaker 2>You want different leaders, you want different leadership, you want

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<v Speaker 1>You need a different architecture, don't I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I keep saying, right, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>to alleviate things that make people hostile to conservative ideology right.

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<v Speaker 2>And in exchange for doing this and to agree to

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<v Speaker 2>tuition freeze, which which most people agree with. But in

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<v Speaker 2>exchange for doing these things, they will get priority for university,

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is quick pro quo. It's unbelievable. All this is.

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<v Speaker 2>But but what this is essentially saying, and what this

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<v Speaker 2>directly contravenes, is this idea in American society that we

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<v Speaker 2>have a marketplace of ideas, that every idea gets to

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<v Speaker 2>what we actually have and have always had, is a

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<v Speaker 2>very carefully curated set of ideas that we are allowed

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<v Speaker 2>robust competition lest they be eliminated. Right, this is why

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<v Speaker 2>you don't This is why they don't teach about socialism

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<v Speaker 2>and communism in schools. This is why they're the fight

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<v Speaker 2>over how much racism you can talk about, whose perspective

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<v Speaker 1>Which this is all because in order.

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<v Speaker 2>For white supremacy, capitalism, and the militarism that we have

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<v Speaker 1>It's why King shut out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why King said that they were the three evils,

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<v Speaker 2>because in order for them to survive, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>alleviate competing ideas. So what this administration is doing is

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<v Speaker 2>reluctant as people are to engage with. This fact is

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<v Speaker 2>they're not an aberration or a deviation from our trajectory.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a continuation of it. When they say they're

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<v Speaker 2>bring us back to these American founding ideas, they are

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<v Speaker 2>they're consistent, they're not wrong. And a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>that is inhibiting a free dialogue. Is it inhibiting the

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<v Speaker 2>free flow and exchange of ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, which actually is a great segue into Project twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because I feel like people thought it was just

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty five all the way live, and it's like no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>they had more coming for us. Yeah, they have more

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<v Speaker 3>coming for us. And I definitely thought I had transferred it.

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<v Speaker 1>Into my computer.

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<v Speaker 3>So I solve that's a problem that I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>do it right now, So tell me this, what did

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<v Speaker 3>you When did you find out about Project twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I think around the same time everybody else found out

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's not what everybody else found out about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I mean Kamala didn't start talking about Project

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think when our politicians decide to address something

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<v Speaker 2>publicly is a good metric for when it actually became

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<v Speaker 2>publicly known.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, these are people who are ambassadors for a system

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But there are many people who did not hear

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<v Speaker 3>about it until they heard about it from her because

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got top that. You gotta stop that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so here we are, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Heritage Foundations said don't sleep, we got more for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have released new fascistic policy. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 3>Note in their blueprint for twenty twenty six are the

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<v Speaker 3>free enterprise, which you were just speaking about national security,

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<v Speaker 3>which we need to always put in quotes, because we

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<v Speaker 3>need to put the security in quotes within the quotes,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not actually securing the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same ethos as Israel, where it's we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to cause friction with everybody else and call it securing

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<v Speaker 3>want to eliminate ranked choice voting all together. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know do you know about rank choice voting?

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<v Speaker 2>supporting it as a way to mitigate the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>corruption that we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, run rampant in our political powerties.

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<v Speaker 3>So ranked choice voting, y'all, and correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Shaky on this ranked choice voting.

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<v Speaker 3>can rank who you want in preference, and then that

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<v Speaker 3>by two. So that is why when mom Donnie was

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<v Speaker 3>in the primary, everyone was like, rank him as one,

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<v Speaker 3>rank him as one.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that would push him through.

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<v Speaker 3>That allows for there to also be more opportunities for

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<v Speaker 3>different kinds of candidates versus you only getting these two

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<v Speaker 3>green party of your independent option that actually has elevated

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<v Speaker 3>you saw that CNN has has partnered with Kalshi, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a betting app so that you can now bet

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<v Speaker 3>little later because the owner literally says in an interview

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<v Speaker 1>That is, please keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Going a fundamental part of the US. And also though

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<v Speaker 1>That is, it's so all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that it it, you know, the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to convince us that blowing up babies of self defense,

428
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<v Speaker 2>the hostility to talking about the reality of this country's

429
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<v Speaker 2>racial history, the unwillingness to deal with the failings of capitalism,

430
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<v Speaker 2>are all emblematic of our hostile relationship with reality. We

431
00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.519
<v Speaker 2>refuse to engage reality, and we punish people who try

432
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<v Speaker 2>to force us to do it. That is kind of

433
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<v Speaker 2>the ethos, and that's part of why we're in decline,

434
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<v Speaker 2>because when you had odds with reality, reality is gonna

435
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<v Speaker 2>win every time.

436
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<v Speaker 5>Facts.

437
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<v Speaker 3>They want to reclaim institutions, which we were just talking about,

438
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<v Speaker 3>of higher education from the radical left. By the way,

439
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<v Speaker 3>you all none of these institutions are the radical left. Oh,

440
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<v Speaker 3>anybody who has been in an institution, you currently work

441
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<v Speaker 3>in an institution, you know that it is far from

442
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<v Speaker 3>the radical left. The idea that learning literally just learning

443
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<v Speaker 3>is considered radical. Learning about anything outside of the United States,

444
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<v Speaker 3>learning about anything beyond the context of capitalism, beyond the

445
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<v Speaker 3>context of white supremacy, is considered radical.

446
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<v Speaker 1>There is a war on reality.

447
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<v Speaker 2>It never occurs to these people that whatever left leaning bias.

448
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>They think exists in these institutions.

449
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<v Speaker 2>And I would agree with you, they're the furthest thing

450
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<v Speaker 2>from radical in my experience that we can get, but

451
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<v Speaker 2>any left leaning bias, they don't contend with the fact

452
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<v Speaker 2>that maybe these are just the facts. Maybe you got

453
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<v Speaker 2>a bunchet smart people together. They all looked at the

454
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<v Speaker 2>history and the data and they were like.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Well, damn, there's only one they refuse to engage with.

456
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<v Speaker 1>And that's why they have.

457
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<v Speaker 2>To send these letters out to say you please eliminate

458
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<v Speaker 2>these things from your curriculum.

459
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<v Speaker 1>Because our ideas cannot compete with them. The reality is

460
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<v Speaker 1>so clear, it's so anchored in the truth that we

461
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<v Speaker 1>can't compete unless they're eradicated. In the same way, these people.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Like Hillary Clinton and Sarah Hurwitz are like, you guys

463
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<v Speaker 3>need to stop showing videos of reality because it's getting

464
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<v Speaker 3>in the way of our indoctrination and lies.

465
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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. Cut it out,

466
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<v Speaker 1>you guys. That's right.

467
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<v Speaker 2>And it shows how dependent we've been as a society

468
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<v Speaker 2>or the power structure has been on propaganda.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I mean, I feel like growing up, I mean,

470
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<v Speaker 3>I know the word propaganda, but only recently was I

471
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<v Speaker 3>able to really point out just how pervasive it is.

472
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<v Speaker 3>It is and completely regular. So let's run through these

473
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<v Speaker 3>other ones real quick. We got advancing policies at the

474
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<v Speaker 3>state and federal level to restore the nuclear family to

475
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<v Speaker 3>the center of American life. So I was reading something

476
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<v Speaker 3>the other day that was really just basically saying that

477
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 3>the nuclear family is actually problematic to America, to human

478
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<v Speaker 3>life because this idea that you would only have you

479
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 3>in a house with you alone is just so they

480
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<v Speaker 3>can control you more.

481
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<v Speaker 1>And I had really thought of it that way.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the nuclear family is an institution to police women

483
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and queer folks, and it is to make sure that capitalism.

484
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<v Speaker 2>It is a survival mechanism for capitalism because it requires

485
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<v Speaker 2>you to be tired all the time. You got to

486
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<v Speaker 2>think if you have people families, and familial models should

487
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<v Speaker 2>depend on.

488
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<v Speaker 1>The village model.

489
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<v Speaker 2>These people in our community who don't have kids, as

490
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<v Speaker 2>somebody with kids, I need my kidless aunties to be like, look.

491
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come take them for an.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon for Saturday afternoon, so you can have a moment

493
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<v Speaker 2>to yourself that allows me to recharge and restore and

494
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<v Speaker 2>do some critical thinking and do some reflection. There's no

495
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<v Speaker 2>and if they don't want you thinking in the universities.

496
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<v Speaker 2>If they're going to take it out of the universities,

497
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<v Speaker 2>they don't want you to have time on your.

498
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<v Speaker 1>Own to do that study neither.

499
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<v Speaker 2>And if you are in a nuclear family where you

500
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<v Speaker 2>are working, even when you are at home, where home

501
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>is a job, right su stay in the household where

502
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<v Speaker 2>it's a miniature society like they want to play, then

503
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<v Speaker 2>you don't have that time.

504
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<v Speaker 1>That's by design.

505
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<v Speaker 3>And you know you have agreen here saying you've become

506
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<v Speaker 3>dependent on the government, and not in a good way.

507
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 3>And by the way you they force you to be

508
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 3>dependent on the government and then shame you for being

509
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<v Speaker 3>dependent on the government.

510
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<v Speaker 1>It's just a cycle of nonsense.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

512
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<v Speaker 3>The last one is reducing both the demand and supply

513
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 3>for abortion at all stages of human development. The demand,

514
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 3>the everything you listened before. This increases the reality that

515
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 3>folks will not feel safe having a baby, they won't

516
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>feel supported, they won't feel healthy, all the above.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Don't they sound like slave owners? Ain't that what a

518
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>slave owner would say? They don't they want you to.

519
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is what a slave owner would say. Damn,

520
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 2>this is a reenactment. And this is what I keep

521
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to get people to understand, like, you don't say

522
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying saying the plantation and the slave, this

523
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 2>is part of the societal architecture.

524
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<v Speaker 1>It's never gone away.

525
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<v Speaker 2>This is just a revival of how our society to.

526
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Make America great again. Yeah, it's yeah, absolutely nostalgia for

527
00:27:59.559 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the past.

528
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<v Speaker 2>And it's a and if you look back at the

529
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>trajectory of the institution of slavery, even after slavery, they

530
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 2>were nostalgic for it. You had slave in a box,

531
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>you had things being marketed as and for convenience. As

532
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>it is true if you've never looked it up, you

533
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>should google.

534
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>You should look you should definitely google it.

535
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.759
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so so so even our obsession with AI

536
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and and like robots, it's it's like you can have

537
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>a slave, but it'll be.

538
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>A robot, so it'll be okay. I and we we

539
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 1>are we have.

540
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Never reckoned with the material implications how slavery shaped our expectations,

541
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>our identity, what we believe luxury and success.

542
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Looks like, yes, our quest for lead, sure, et cetera.

543
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>So this is I mean, the social fabric and social

544
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>mores changed to some extent. But if you recognize that

545
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the ultra wealthy are are are in a lot of ways.

546
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Removed from that social fabric.

547
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Right, if you think about I mean and we we

548
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>encounter it on a regular basis. Think about when jay

549
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Z says, I don't land at the airport. I call

550
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>it the Clare Airport. Right, He's saying, I'm somewhere you

551
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>can't get to. Right, I'm removed, I'm far away.

552
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm somewhere you can't. You can't exactly. That's the point.

553
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 1>That's the point.

554
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So the people who and jay Z just a little billionaire,

555
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>if you compare him to Larry Ellison, calm down, if

556
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you compare him to somebody like Larry Ellison or Elon Musk,

557
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>these people are several layers removed from.

558
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Society and there's several generations. Yeah.

559
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely so, whatever our social mores and sensibilities are

560
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 2>around slavery are not ones they have been socialized within.

561
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>They exist within a kind of corporate architecture that that

562
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>we've privileged, that's privileged in the constitution. This is why

563
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 2>people not understand the history of slavery is so detrimental

564
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>to us collectively. Because if you think about people, think

565
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>about the three fifths Compromise and the slave trade clause,

566
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and they think about it as just a racialized provision. No,

567
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 2>these are corporate provisions. These are provisions that say the Congress,

568
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 2>which is supposed to be the most representative body because

569
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>it's the.

570
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Body for the people.

571
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Come on, lawyers, cannot regulate or cannot stop the importation

572
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 2>of slaves.

573
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Who is that for?

574
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Who's importing slaves? Big business some of the only people

575
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>who can afford the ships, to staff them, to pay

576
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to kidnap these folks, to get people to risk alive

577
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>for the likelihood of mutiny when slaves would revolt on

578
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>these ships. You're talking about a car about four big

579
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>business that's constitutionalized as part of our federal architecture, right,

580
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and so we've always privileged corporations and corporate power. And

581
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 2>then we connected it to the Three Fifths Compromise, which

582
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>said that cargo. That's how we think about people in

583
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>this country as cargo. So when they treat us like

584
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>inputs and labor and humans as a resource, that's part

585
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>of our our foundation, that's part of our architecture. Because

586
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 2>they called people cargo in the Constitution, and then they

587
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 2>said that cargo could translate directly into political power with

588
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the three fifths compromise. The more slaves you bring in,

589
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the more representation you have the possibility to get in Congress,

590
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 2>right in the House of Representatives. And so there's a

591
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>direct link. There's a direct relationship here between the power

592
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that we see being wielded and the results and the

593
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 2>lack of care about humans. This is part of our ethos.

594
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>So when they talk about restoring enterprise, when they talk

595
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 2>about that, they are talking abouts a person, right when

596
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>they say, I mean people think it started with Citizens United.

597
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Citizens United is just a modern manifestation of that constitutionalized principle,

598
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>which says that corporate, huge businesses, corporations wielding political power

599
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>is part of our ethos.

600
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 1>It's good for us. We've always had that.

601
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>But because we don't study those provisions like that within

602
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>that context, because we kind of say, oh, my goodness,

603
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>those were slave clauses and they were about you know, racism,

604
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and we don't do that anymore. Right, they're inoperable now,

605
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 2>we don't need to spend time with them, we don't

606
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>recognize their implications for our moderns. But they also very

607
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 2>casually these days be going back to those laws, right,

608
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>they've been enough laws from eighteen so whatever ninety eight,

609
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 2>you're doing it right now. When the alien the Alien

610
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>in Sedition Acts, he's using some of those acts to deport,

611
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>which is really just to exile people without due process.

612
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>But he was relying on the seventeen ninety eight Alien

613
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 2>in Sedition Acts, so we absolutely use those laws.

614
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Well.

615
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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of immigration, I'm going to talk later in the

616
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<v Speaker 3>show about uprisings that are happening in Portugal and Bulgaria.

617
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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to do a u quick pivot because

618
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<v Speaker 3>I did not know that you was from Minnesota.

619
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I live, but I'm not that you live

620
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota.

621
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Live in Minnesota, and so I do want to shout

622
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>out Minnesota because they have been and of course I'm

623
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>saying it just like Bobby's mother would on Bobby's World. Bobby,

624
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 3>We're going in Minnesota, and I just want to shout.

625
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Out Minnesota and the work they're doing against Ice. Yeah. Yeah,

626
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>for our for our neighbors.

627
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 6>Charts what.

628
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to school.

629
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait, wait, that doesn't make any sense.

630
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>First of all, if he committed a crime in the

631
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>state of Minnesota as an adult, that's a that's a

632
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>public offics, so you want him to close it.

633
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 7>So what is the.

634
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Crime I does not.

635
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<v Speaker 7>They have one person named one that they have to

636
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 7>detain and that person is inside central Mix. Don Henry

637
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 7>has the right to say no to anyone.

638
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 3>So Don Henry is the owner of the market that

639
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 3>they are guarding.

640
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<v Speaker 1>There's business.

641
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<v Speaker 7>So if he went inside to talk to his wife

642
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<v Speaker 7>to make sure his staff are in the know what's

643
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 7>going on out here. They have not produced a warrant.

644
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 7>They asked Don Henry if he was a citizen. They

645
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 7>asked him to identify himself, Don Henry short of miss passport.

646
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 7>They didn't ask me for my passport doesn't pay.

647
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 6>It's called discrimination.

648
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 7>So we're gonna stay here, guys, We're gonna just say what.

649
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna make sure that Don Henry needs space and

650
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 7>time to think about what's best for him, his family

651
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 7>and his business, and we're gonna follow Don Henry's leap.

652
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<v Speaker 8>We made our way to the center of the crowd

653
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 8>and found a woman being held face down on the ground.

654
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 8>People were screaming to let her go.

655
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>We kept yelling, she's pregnant, He's pregnant, She's pregnant. They

656
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>put their knees in her, and we kept telling them.

657
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>She can't breathe, let her up, Let her up.

658
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 8>In the chaos, the woman who was handcuffed was suddenly

659
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 8>being dragged by one arm of the angry crowd whose

660
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 8>snowballs and screamed at the federal agent. Do you have

661
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<v Speaker 8>a herd?

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00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 3>By the way, throwing snowballs at them is probably the

663
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<v Speaker 3>most Minnesota thing I've ever heard of, because one thing

664
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 3>by Minnesota is y'all really know about some snow We

665
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<v Speaker 3>too look like.

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<v Speaker 6>A nice guy.

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00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 5>Do you have a heard?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know about you this. You gotta have

669
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 1>different folks, That's right.

670
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>That's why you gotta have different folks in the organization, y'all,

671
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 3>because this couldn't be me talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, don't do no shooting around me.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't brew you. Let's be family, Let's treat each

674
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 6>other good. Let's show the media that we care for

675
00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 6>one another. Thank you, guys, thank you for standing down.

676
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Don't father people child.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pray for you.

678
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I adopted a snopy Carmichael petive. You gotta have a

679
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 2>conscience for you to reason with them and appeal to

680
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>their conscience. And I just can't believe if you out

681
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 2>here dragging folks out of the car line from schools

682
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>UNI and on pregnant women, you got a conscience for

683
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>me to speak to friends.

684
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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, but they left, I mean, and

685
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 3>but it was a combination. It was a multi pronged approach,

686
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 3>right because folks was not.

687
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Playing with them. Folks stood stood up, they linked arms.

688
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You know.

689
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Then you had the person who was the communicator, Like

690
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<v Speaker 3>I would tell Claudia Las like, don't expect.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Don't send me to talk to no cops. It ain't

692
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna go well, it's not I'm gonna ruin the whole operation.

693
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't never let me talk to cops. I will ruin

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<v Speaker 1>the whole operation.

695
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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's gonna get arrested, we all get against I don't.

696
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<v Speaker 1>That's not your ministry, that's not no.

697
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<v Speaker 2>You send me to talk to the thuds, right, end

698
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<v Speaker 2>me to talk to the yns. I'm good with them.

699
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But the cops. No, No, y'all gonna put a bail

700
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>fund together for me? Right, I mean, we are operating

701
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 1>in an extra legal terrain. That's the other thing. Folks

702
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 1>are not recktling with people like that is whatever this is?

703
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Like so yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah again,

704
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<v Speaker 1>we don't know history.

705
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>If we knew history, we would know how like unreliable,

706
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you just it's like a hit or miss.

707
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>You might as well, I mean, play the lottery. If

708
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling unlucky, you know, you should play the lottery.

709
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just these all of.

710
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<v Speaker 2>This, and this is really, I think the most powerful point.

711
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 2>It is both terrifying and powerful. All of this was created.

712
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>We created it. We created it. That means we can

713
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 1>uncreate it, say it right, bring it back, bring it back.

714
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 1>We can uncreate it. We can make new stuff. And

715
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing.

716
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I trust us to make new stuff more than I

717
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>trust the Brola garchs certainly to us trust I trust

718
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>the people. I trust humans.

719
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I trust us And this has been proven over and

720
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 1>over again. It's why they don't leave us to our

721
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>own devices.

722
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why, it's why they have to manipulate what we

723
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>learn and what we see and what we hear and

724
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>how we speak to one another, and you know, the

725
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>lines we draw connect ourselves and separate ourselves, because if

726
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>we were this is why they went after TikTok, because

727
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>they thought it was just the apple folks was over

728
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 2>there dancing.

729
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 1>They found our folks was over there having conversations and

730
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 1>they was like, oh, we have to shut this ship down.

731
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Let the kids talk.

732
00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 6>You don't talk.

733
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Then they tricked it. I'm gonna started dancing and teaching. Hey,

734
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Zionism gonna take us down. Hey, hey, project twenty five

735
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 3>learn about it.

736
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>And then lay Ellison was like, I'm a buy it.

737
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm a buy it because we can't have this, and

738
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll buy whatever other mediums I need to.

739
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like, it's yo, it's an active it's an act

740
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 1>of desperation.

741
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>We should absolutely see it as an act of desperation

742
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 2>and it should also terrify us.

743
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm hoping we I don't know what it's gonna

744
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>desperate desperate measures.

745
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, when people get into that phase, they lose

746
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>any semblance of humanity that they did, and that's a

747
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 3>human thing, right, This is why.

748
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.320
<v Speaker 2>We had this is violent crime when people are. The

749
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>more desperate people are, the more desperate they're willing to be.

750
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Which is also why they are creating scenariolations for you know,

751
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>when people were talking about snap, I saw someone say, oh, well,

752
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 3>they're just trying to make people feel bad.

753
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, they're trying to make those on snaps snap.

754
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right, that's right, because they're always, of course,

755
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 3>trying to feed a free labor force.

756
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. That's

757
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 1>so tell me this.

758
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>We were gonna talk about a bunch of things. Then

759
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 3>we ended up talking about a.

760
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Bunch of things.

761
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 3>You are a First Amendment right specialist, and so we

762
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>got to talk about what's going on in Cali with.

763
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>This Antifa indictment. Well, did you see Benny Thompson's exchange

764
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 1>with the FBI director about Antifa?

765
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 8>Did you?

766
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to play it for me. I'm about to

767
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>play it for you right now.

768
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's let's let's start with that ys A headquarter.

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<v Speaker 5>What we're doing right now with your where in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States?

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00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>That's on my grandpa? Did you thee? And then you

772
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>start being like, well, what I say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

773
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>one question. Did you eat? That's it?

774
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 5>Let her know, Antifa exist.

775
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 9>If it's a terrorist organization and you've identified it as

776
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<v Speaker 9>number one.

777
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 4>We are building other infrastructure right now.

778
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 5>So what does that mean? You said, I'm just we're

779
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 5>trying to get the information.

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00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 9>You say Antifa is a terrorist organization, Tell us as

781
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 9>a committee, how did you come to that, What do

782
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 9>it exist?

783
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 5>How many members do they have in the United States

784
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 5>as of right now?

785
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's very fluids. It's ongoing for us to understand

786
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 4>that the same no different than alkadan isis no.

787
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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't want you.

788
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 9>I'll ask one person, sir, I just want you to

789
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.360
<v Speaker 9>tell us if you said Antifa is the number one

790
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 9>domestic terrorist organization operating in the United States.

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00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 5>I just need to know where they are, how many people.

792
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't want a name, I don't want anything like that.

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00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 9>Just how many people have you identified with the FBI

794
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 9>that Antifa is made of?

795
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 4>Where the investigations you're active?

796
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 9>So you wouldn't come to this committee and say something

797
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.599
<v Speaker 9>you can't prove by note, I know you wouldn't do that.

798
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>What you did, it would be funny if it wasn't real.

799
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>This is it was such a glaring example of how

800
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 2>disconnected we are from reality and we don't have to be.

801
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the scarier part, is that we don't

802
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>have to be connected to reality. And I would also

803
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<v Speaker 2>argue this is this is true to the FBI's tradition.

804
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 2>This is the type of stuff Jagger Whover used to do.

805
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 3>They were able to do it under the shroud of

806
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>secrecy in a way that they're really not able to

807
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 3>do at this level.

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00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Agreed. So let me just give you all some background

809
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 1>around what's going on.

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00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 3>So, federal prosecutors in California have indicted four people on.

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00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Charges they plotted to bomb multiple.

812
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Targets in California beginning on New Year's Eve. The Justice

813
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Department describes the individuals as being part of the Turtle

814
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Island Liberation Front okay, and that they're absolutely pro Palestine,

815
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 3>far left, anti government, and anti capitalist. The four people arrested,

816
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Audrey Ellen, Audrey Eileen Carol, Dante Garfield, Zachary Aaron Page,

817
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 3>and Tina Lai have what the Justice Department and FBI

818
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 3>have deemed an anti government ideology. And this was apparently

819
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 3>initiated due to the September twenty twenty five executive order

820
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 3>signed by President Trump to root out left wing domestic

821
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 3>tarrort organization is in our country. Now, I just want

822
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>to add this very important caveat that the indictment relies

823
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>heavily on a paid FBI informant.

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00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this, I mean this sounds like yeah, yeah, I

825
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>mean yeah yeah.

826
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 3>This is both right because mccarchyism popped off because of

827
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 3>a really like zealous senator being like I'm trying to

828
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.440
<v Speaker 3>pop off, like he couldn't care less I people were communists,

829
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 3>but he was like, oh, I can get a name

830
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<v Speaker 3>doing this.

831
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then you had Hoover who.

832
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<v Speaker 3>Was like, yeah, I'm also trying to get people to

833
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 3>not know that I'm gay and black, so let me

834
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 3>just then get busy too.

835
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<v Speaker 2>Hoover was also raised under if you will like his

836
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>political tutelage, he was originally so he's he's hired in

837
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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen teens.

838
00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't.

839
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<v Speaker 2>Realize Hoover is hired by the federal government in the

840
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>nineteen teens and he leaves the FBI until nineteen seventy two,

841
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>so he has a career spanning more than fifty decades

842
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>with the federal government. And when he starts out, muciple

843
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>wars out absolutely under Woodrow Wilson and Woodrow Wilson introduces

844
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the Espionage Acts that says you can't say anything bad

845
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 2>about the government. He uses a muck rackers, which are

846
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<v Speaker 2>propagandists to drum up support for the war. He labels

847
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's anti war, anybody who's anti government, anybody who's

848
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<v Speaker 2>anti white supremacy, as a threat to the national security.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the climate, the.

850
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<v Speaker 2>Rearing, the tutelage under which j. Rgar Hoover is introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to the federal government. And so if you just look

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<v Speaker 2>at the lineage, I mean, were talking about apples falling

853
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<v Speaker 2>from trees.

854
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>This is I mean, this is the fruit the tree. Yeah,

855
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the fruit. This is the fruit of that.

856
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 2>And because we've never been willing to grapple with it

857
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and tackle it and un hacked and dissect.

858
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And break down.

859
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Is these markers, these as markers on white paper, signs

860
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that they drew. Is this the evidence?

861
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 1>This is the evidence, This is the evidence.

862
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 3>We also have to understand that quote unquote evidence always

863
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 3>has to be in quotes, right, because even as we're

864
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about Luigi, we understand that there's just simply is

865
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 3>always sideways stuff going on, and they are not able

866
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 3>to track possession of evidence. You constantly have forget Luigi,

867
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to Oh Jay, like.

868
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>This, where are you? It's not like these cops are

869
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 1>in any way above board. I mean, this is the

870
00:46:54.760 --> 00:47:04.320
<v Speaker 1>other evidence here. It is hold on so PBC pipes,

871
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>these were just these were just out in the open

872
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and somebody front yard. They just took a picture.

873
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, none of their stuff makes sense Like at

874
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 2>this what oh who writing them signed? You got a

875
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 2>whole internet. You can speak to who writing with Prayola

876
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 2>markers on eighty five printer paper. They're I like, even

877
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>the way that they're And this is another thing though,

878
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>This is why they attack education the way that they do,

879
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 2>because they don't count on us being smart enough holotically

880
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>about what they put in front of us.

881
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And they at the bullets and the.

882
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Whole gun situation after c K right and how it

883
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh there was nothing there, all of a sudden,

884
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 2>there's something there, and then on the bullets it just

885
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.480
<v Speaker 2>looked like chicken scratch.

886
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 1>And so like we I don't like black people, you

887
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like stuff like that, it's just nonsense.

888
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Let me also add that the indictment, I'm sorry that

889
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 3>the UH attorney what's his name, the federal the federal

890
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 3>prosecutor Bill Asie, and I'm actually I want to I

891
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 3>want to show you all a picture of him, so

892
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 3>you can just see what a prick looks like. Because

893
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 3>I think it's also like sometimes you just see certain

894
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>picts of people you like. You you could tell that

895
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 3>this is somebody who wasn't getting none and this is

896
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 3>his way to try and get some vajin.

897
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>This is first assistant. Look at him. Look at him,

898
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Look at him. You can tell he's just corny. He's

899
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 1>a corny guy. This is Bill A. Salee, who says

900
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the group.

901
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Was targeting US companies with their bombs. He did not

902
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 3>elaborate on the companies. The complaint also alleges that the

903
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 3>four involved in the plot were not attempting to kill people,

904
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and if they saw anyone in the area of their bombs,

905
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 3>they would try to warn them. They're going to make

906
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 3>their initial appearance in federal court Monday afternoon in Los Angeles.

907
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I bet you there was a lot of pressure to

908
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 3>find an indictment after that very embarrassing exchange with Benny Thompson.

909
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I bet you there was all of a sudden and

910
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 2>urgent pressure to produce something or someone even if it

911
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>doesn't stick. That's the other thing. All of this is

912
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 2>about the orc and the theater of it. Right, there's

913
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 2>so much political theater happening that I think is meant

914
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 2>to distract us from the real actual maneuvering that's happening.

915
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And they use Crayola markers and eight and a half

916
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>by eleven printer paper to do it because they believe

917
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that we don't have the literacy, the media literacy, the

918
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 2>critical thinking skills, the historical contexts to situate their efforts,

919
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and didn't I think there was a judge too who

920
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>ruled that that person was not supposed to be in

921
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>charge of that office, and then they just kind of changed.

922
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a court ruling from a

923
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 1>judge that that did. What did you say, Issaily, He's

924
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be.

925
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Leading that office, so they changed his title, but he's

926
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>still doing the same thing.

927
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

928
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, Again, we're in an extra legal Well.

929
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 3>The other of nonsense that is happening is that they

930
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 3>also know that mainstream media is not going to dig further.

931
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>That's right, right.

932
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 3>They also know that mainstream media is not going to

933
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 3>correct with the same effort that they promote. So mainstream

934
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 3>media might put this story out there, but let's say,

935
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>like you said, the theatrics then dissolve into this was nonsense,

936
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna throw this out of court and you

937
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 3>all can go your merry way.

938
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to see that story. That's right.

939
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the media is invested in invested is

940
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.400
<v Speaker 2>as much as the political apparatus in those fundamental building blocks,

941
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>so they're not I mean, this is why you.

942
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't see media that's critical up shout out to African stream.

943
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 1>They get to African streaming, right, this is why you

944
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 1>don't see media. They have a new off met started

945
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>something new called Sovereign Media. Oh I didn't know that,

946
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing. Yeah, I'm.

947
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 3>And so it's called Sovereign Media and he's working on it.

948
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 3>And we actually have journalists that join once a month

949
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 3>from African from the previous African stream, but now sobern

950
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Media to do what we call the Africa Tappen and

951
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 3>they give us the.

952
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>One two on what's going on in the continent.

953
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I love that, and I love you for making space

954
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 2>for that, because that kind of elimination is also why

955
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 2>we're here.

956
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Because you don't see media that's critical of the United States.

957
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't see media from the marginalized perspective, and mainstream

958
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 2>media will not do it.

959
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.039
<v Speaker 1>They will, They will create the campaigns for.

960
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 2>These awful things to happen, and then years later apologize

961
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 2>for the lynching campaign, apologize for Iraq, and I imagine

962
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 2>we will see in a decade or so, apologize for Palestine.

963
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of Iraq, you know, we're going to talk

964
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 3>about Rob Reiner later in the show. And Rob Reightner

965
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 3>did the film Shock and Awe, which is about the

966
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 3>ways in which the New York Times, Times and mainstream

967
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:03.480
<v Speaker 3>media helped to support the.

968
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Lies of the administration at the time.

969
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, Rumsfeld and these folks in carrying out the

970
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 3>manufactured consent for the war.

971
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>How can people follow you? Where can they get more

972
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Russia ghe in their lives? So I love you dearly,

973
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna correct you. Rashiya g Why have you

974
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 1>let me talk to you.

975
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>This time?

976
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I was waiting.

977
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I just did it.

978
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 1>So, So there it is. You can follow me. I'm

979
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram as highly viby. But there's the underscore, isn't there?

980
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe in the middle highly underscore viby okay, and

981
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 2>yes like that, And I'm working on other stuff that

982
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I will put on I'm working on doing podcast stuff.

983
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't have the scheduling, I don't have the time

984
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>right now to add it into all the other stuff

985
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 2>that I'm doing, but I am working on it. So

986
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>my hope is to talk more about the ways in

987
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.960
<v Speaker 2>which race, law and politics are engendering the American decline.

988
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, a lot of folks are talking about leaving,

989
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 2>are talking about what.

990
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>They can do.

991
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, I want Black folks to realize that our

992
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>home is with each other. I would be hesitant to

993
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 2>call this place or any other place, our home. A

994
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.079
<v Speaker 2>home is a place that nourishes you. A home is

995
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a place that nurtures you, that welcomes you, that's happy

996
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.199
<v Speaker 2>to see, that builds you up, where you find refuge.

997
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:31.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any of those characterizations would fit

998
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 2>our experience anywhere, especially here. So I want us to

999
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.639
<v Speaker 2>start thinking about each other as our home, and whatever

1000
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 2>we do, I hope we begin to think of ourselves

1001
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>collectively with them.

1002
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>And that connects to my concept of we are the soil.

1003
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did not get to connect to the land

1004
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 3>that we had to become experts at, so we have

1005
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 3>had to be the land.

1006
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hope we take that in internalize.

1007
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 2>So I think our attempts to save this without engaging

1008
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 2>with what at meat for the globe, o speed for

1009
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the planet.

1010
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 1>What are we saving? Yeah, you're talking about saving American democracy,

1011
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and if you were never an American, it was never

1012
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a democracy.

1013
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna kill the planet. It's gonna kill us all,

1014
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever you think you're trying to say. If you gonna

1015
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 2>prop up Jasmine Crocket while they sending tax dollars over

1016
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 2>there to bomb babies, I need us to.

1017
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I need us to. I just I want us all

1018
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to be well. I want us all to be well

1019
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 1>with each other, and I want us to understand that.

1020
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, ain't nothing particularly wrong with Jasmine or Kamala,

1021
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>except that they exist in the system that demands this

1022
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 2>of them.

1023
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>This is the price that they Why are you even

1024
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 1>giving them that out?

1025
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Like they made a choice going there, Like no one

1026
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 3>held the gun today head and said you got to

1027
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:41.760
<v Speaker 3>go in here and do this, And other people have

1028
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.599
<v Speaker 3>gone in there and not done that, So they actually

1029
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 3>did not have to be that. Corey Bush went in

1030
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 3>there and didn't do that, or she went in there

1031
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 3>and didn't do that. Summer Summer Lee went in.

1032
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 2>There, and in fairness, they got Corey Bush and Jamal

1033
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Bowman's ass out of there.

1034
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>And this is not out of there if the Democrats

1035
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 1>actually had their back.

1036
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>But that was my other point, more so about the

1037
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 2>democratic apparatus, of which just Dasmin Crockett.

1038
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>And Kamala they support. That they didn't say nothing. You

1039
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 1>talked about you for the people.

1040
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 2>They just snatched your people who for the people out

1041
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 2>of here, and everybody was quiet.

1042
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that Kamala married a Zionists.

1043
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Do you know how much it takes to marry somebody, y'all?

1044
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Do you understand in this country what it means to

1045
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 3>marry somebody. She married them their family, their family, and

1046
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 3>marry them.

1047
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>As black folks who experience, who know that we always

1048
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>on the bottom of any calibration about human worth. I

1049
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>just don't know how you can endorse any position where

1050
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 2>you calibrating human worth and putting people on the bottom.

1051
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And don't think your ass is next.

1052
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 3>And Dan, you'll say to yourself, well, this is for

1053
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the preservation of America, which Jasmine Crockett has said so again,

1054
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:48.039
<v Speaker 3>like you said, we are caught up in this preservation

1055
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 3>of a place that has never preserved.

1056
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Us and can't. And the preservation at what costs? You

1057
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 1>willing to burn the whole planet?

1058
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1059
00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And what you think gonna happen when the whole planet burned?

1060
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Who you think next? Will you think they feed in

1061
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to the fire next?

1062
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I just the logic just seems so obvious to me.

1063
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.519
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I can't give them a pass. These

1064
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:12.760
<v Speaker 3>are not young people. These are not people who are

1065
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 3>somehow you know, misled. These are not people who are

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00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 3>struggling financially. These are not people with children. These are

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00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 3>not people who have any excuse other than a desire

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<v Speaker 3>for attention.

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<v Speaker 6>Power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and you you know, I think I

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00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of it is getting a folk, especially

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00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:30.719
<v Speaker 2>for black folks.

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00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 1>We have not healed.

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00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>So we understand our wholeness as proximity to white power,

1075
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 2>and so we believe that that can restore you of

1076
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.679
<v Speaker 2>our humanity. That's well, no, because I spend time with

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00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the ancestors, So.

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00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know my words and my value.

1079
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I just spent time this woman prediction, you just want

1080
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to forget them where we're going through twenty years ago.

1081
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I also want us to change how we refer to

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00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>black people, because I know so many black people that

1083
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>actually don't write, that actually don't operate like that, that

1084
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>do spend.

1085
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Their time with the ancestors.

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00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 3>They come on this show all the good day time,

1087
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 3>they come to my book tours. So like this whole

1088
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 3>we enable at a certain point when we're just like

1089
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, come on, but everybody ain't healed to the

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00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>same extent. No they're not, But and everybody ain't had

1092
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the same opportunity. Some people don't even know that healing

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00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 1>is available.

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00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Correct, I'm just saying that we apply that to people

1095
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>who do have that access.

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00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 3>We apply that to people who are actually available, who

1097
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 3>do have the availability.

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<v Speaker 1>Financially, time wise, et cetera to do that.

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00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 3>And we do that because we have an ingrained love

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00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 3>and grace that I believe is actually a part of

1101
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 3>our just being humanity, Like yeah, yeah, I need to.

1102
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>See I mean, my ability to recognize the humanity and

1103
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.320
<v Speaker 2>every other person is part of my own humanity, right,

1104
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>My humanity survives because I can see humanity and everybody else.

1105
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:05.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's an excuse. I think it's just

1106
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 2>an acknowledgment of where we are and how much work

1107
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.239
<v Speaker 2>needs to be done. If we just say these people

1108
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 2>are bad and write them off, it doesn't give us

1109
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a pathway for the healing that will need to take place.

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<v Speaker 1>Collectively, I think there are more unhealed people.

1111
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Than there are healed people, and I think just the

1112
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>majority of unpilled people don't have power.

1113
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why we don't see it manifesting in

1114
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:26.679
<v Speaker 1>this way.

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00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of healing that needs to happen,

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00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to have to make space for that

1117
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and create an architecture and talk about what healing looks

1118
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 2>like and what it doesn't look like. In one of

1119
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.639
<v Speaker 2>the ways it doesn't look like is turning towards white

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00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 2>power as a form of validation, as a form of redemption.

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00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 9>So do we.

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00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Continue to platform unhealed people?

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00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, No, we should not be platforming these people.

1124
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I think that's the difference.

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00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>We don't throw people away because people aren't disposable, but

1127
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't platform them etheriry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, we're on the same page. I was like, yeah,

1129
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>on the same page. We got to get there because

1130
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the page is the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think that's the thing, is that that nuance

1132
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 3>is what so many people are missing, Like when you

1133
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 3>critique a black politician and they say you're tearing her down,

1134
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, this is actually a constructive criticism based

1135
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 3>on facts that actually addresses them as a politician even

1136
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 3>more than them as a character as an individual.

1137
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like the book reading I did, in the book.

1138
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Talk I did in Dallas, someone was like, well, you know,

1139
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I want to support Jasmine Crockett just as a person.

1140
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I said, then send her a birthday card. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1141
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like she's not running as your sister.

1142
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 3>She's not running she's running as a representative for office.

1143
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 3>And you know, there just really is a very reality,

1144
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:49.679
<v Speaker 3>a very real reality, that there's.

1145
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:53.559
<v Speaker 1>A system in place that is bigger than the individual. Yes. Absolutely.

1146
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 3>And some might say, well, then why are we expecting

1147
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 3>an individual to change the system. And what I'm saying

1148
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 3>is I don't expect an individual to change the system.

1149
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.400
<v Speaker 3>I do expect that if an individual goes into that

1150
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.079
<v Speaker 3>system and they are telling you about change, that they

1151
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:12.159
<v Speaker 3>need to be acting differently than other individuals in that system.

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01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:14.159
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I think we have to come to

1153
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.199
<v Speaker 2>grips with the system. It is not receptive to change.

1154
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.360
<v Speaker 2>You have to be an arrogant ass motherfucker to believe

1155
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.639
<v Speaker 2>that all these people who came before you, all the

1156
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.960
<v Speaker 2>brilliance that you draw from, all these other people, just

1157
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure it out.

1158
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You got the answer, or.

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01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.400
<v Speaker 3>You're telling me like, you need to run for office,

1160
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 3>and you and some people say, Amanda, you need to

1161
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 3>run for office. Either side of that spectrum means that

1162
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 3>you think that just me is about to flip this

1163
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 3>whole script.

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01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

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01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the system. I mean, it's it's like anything else.

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01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>You not changing, it's changing you.

1167
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to respond to it. You have to respond

1168
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to its incentives. Right what It incentivizes the behavior and

1169
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 1>incentivizes in the behavior.

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01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 8>It does less.

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01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Unless your goal is not to stay there, Yes, which

1172
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't.

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01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 2>We need to if we're going to do anything. We

1174
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:04.719
<v Speaker 2>talk about the system we need to build. We need

1175
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to build a system where people do not make careers,

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01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:09.440
<v Speaker 2>lifelong careers out of these positions, so that so that

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01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 2>way that they are not trying to please interests that

1178
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.199
<v Speaker 2>are not the ones that they promised to address when

1179
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 2>they got in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely think that that's true. But I think that

1181
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 1>that also means that governance needs to be more collectively shared.

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01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.039
<v Speaker 2>A big part of this is one million opting out.

1183
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't want to do the work. They want to

1184
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 2>show up every four years cast a ballot and it'd

1185
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 2>be like I did my job, And it's not that

1186
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 2>it's a weekly, daily kind of burden that requires.

1187
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Us all to participate.

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01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 3>But that's also not even really genuinely possible and correct absolutely,

1189
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.280
<v Speaker 3>So that's why you have we also know that they're cheating.

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01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 1>So I think that also leaves people like thiss, uh,

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01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 1>what's the word I'm looking for. It's in chanton. You

1192
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.039
<v Speaker 1>mean this is cheating? Who's cheating? All these elections are cheating?

1193
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:59.199
<v Speaker 1>How can you cheat a rid system? Well, that's what

1194
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, it's really that's right. So that's what I mean.

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01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Like, there are those fundamental building blocks, and this is

1196
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 2>why anti capitalism, anti white supremacy, and anti militarism will

1197
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 2>always provoke the violence of the state, because in order

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01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 2>to get any of those other pieces, in order to

1199
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 2>get collective governance, in order to get an educated polity,

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01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:20.480
<v Speaker 2>in order to get you need to attack those concentrations

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01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of power.

1202
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.039
<v Speaker 1>And so those are the heart of the thing.

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01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Those are the heart of the thing when you attack,

1204
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:27.519
<v Speaker 2>when you attack the amount of money we send it

1205
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 2>over the Israel, when you attack how corporations can amass

1206
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the wealth that they amassed. When you attack the way

1207
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 2>that a race is taught in history, when you get

1208
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to the heart of the thing, when you attack colonialism,

1209
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 2>how colonialism is taught in school. When you get to

1210
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the heart of the thing, that's when you begin to

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01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 2>break down those power structures. As someone who's taught this

1212
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 2>for years, I would get people in my class who

1213
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.079
<v Speaker 2>would be like really hostile at the outset, and then

1214
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.400
<v Speaker 2>by the end of the class they'd be like, oh

1215
01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:58.760
<v Speaker 2>my god, I didn't know, I had no idea, I

1216
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been talked about blah. That's why schools are as

1217
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.559
<v Speaker 2>contested as any election in any court case, because the

1218
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.119
<v Speaker 2>moment you can get to the students, that's why they're

1219
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.440
<v Speaker 2>opening a turning point chapter on every high school campus

1220
01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:17.039
<v Speaker 2>in Texas, right while simultaneously outlawing honest discussion of history

1221
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 2>outline critiques of the United States. Because if you can

1222
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 2>get to the minds of people, if you can orient

1223
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:26.400
<v Speaker 2>and socialize and socialize them into a particular kind of

1224
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>critical thought. These all of the rest of this becomes

1225
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:35.719
<v Speaker 2>newt right, they will adjust accordingly. And so uh yeah,

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01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I think if we start we need to start there,

1227
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<v Speaker 2>not fucking Jasmine Crockett.

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<v Speaker 1>And there you got it. Thank you so much, God Lee,

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01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we got you. I appreciate it. I

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01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all know what to do, Rashia ye at highly highly

1232
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 2>underscore ivy on IG's and get the knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you for teaching the babies and the ad.

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<v Speaker 6>A man.

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<v Speaker 1>Again no an no again, no an not By the

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<v Speaker 1>end