Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon
Speaker 1: in the tri State. Of course, rets baseball kicks off
Speaker 1: about six oh five tonight. Last night's game was awful.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work with Mount McLain on relaying throws from
Speaker 1: right field or how to properly do it. They don't
Speaker 1: look good. They've scored one run and I think in
Speaker 1: the past two games. And we'll see what happens tonight.
Speaker 1: Hope springs eternal, but we have a lot more important
Speaker 1: things to be concerned with. On Thursday and Friday are
Speaker 1: going to be the funeral processions and the proceedings for
Speaker 1: murder chief murdered Deputy Larry Henderson Hamley County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 1: And there's lots of information out there on various websites,
Speaker 1: but I thought I would check in this afternoon with
Speaker 1: Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, who spent most of her adult life
Speaker 1: in and around the Hamley County Sheriff's Department, beginning as
Speaker 1: a corrections officer in the old Workhouse. Now she's the
Speaker 1: elected Sheriff of Hamlety County, been there about five years
Speaker 1: and Sheriff McGuffey. Welcome again the Bill Cunningham Show. And so,
Speaker 1: first of all, can you address yourself on this Wednesday
Speaker 1: afternoon to the morale and to the feelings of the
Speaker 1: deputy sheriffs. You have about seven eight hundred deputy sheriffs
Speaker 1: in Hamley County and just in general, how's the mental
Speaker 1: outlook of your staff?
Speaker 2: Well, and thank you, Bill, And yes, we are nine
Speaker 2: hundred strong. Our Sheriff's department is nine hundred strong, and
Speaker 2: I can tell you that the morale is very somber.
Speaker 2: People are deputies, men and women, our service deputies. We're
Speaker 2: all very very sad, and we're more than said, we're heartbroken.
Speaker 2: We're absolutely devastated. And really I have to tell you
Speaker 2: I stood with one hundred deputies at the hospital on
Speaker 2: the day that Larry died and it was surreal. It
Speaker 2: just is very surreal for all of us.
Speaker 1: As far as continuing. Unlike many agencies, maybe at four
Speaker 1: o'clock you go home, in the Sheriff's department, you don't
Speaker 1: go home. It's twenty four to seven Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: July fourth. It never stops. And Larry Henderson was the best.
Speaker 1: When I look at his record with you on the
Speaker 1: dive team, he was on the bomb squad, He was
Speaker 1: a marine, He was part of SWAT, He was a
Speaker 1: teacher and educator. He touched of the nine hundred deputy
Speaker 1: sheriffs you have probably he touched the lives of the
Speaker 1: great majority over thirty three years. One cannot imagine a
Speaker 1: thirty three year veteran, a marine, diving, detecting bombs, disarming bombs,
Speaker 1: part of a SWAT team, and he retires with the
Speaker 1: thanks of a grateful agencies only four months ago. And
Speaker 1: now you have the occasion of setting up with his wife,
Speaker 1: Laurie at the funeral. How well did you know Larry
Speaker 1: Henderson yourself and his impact on the agency while he
Speaker 1: during the living years.
Speaker 2: I knew Larry Henderson very well. In fact, I remember
Speaker 2: him as a young recruit. I was a lieutenant as
Speaker 2: a trainer when Larry entered our agency, and he began
Speaker 2: in June of nineteen ninety one, and I was one
Speaker 2: of his trainers. I recognized in him right away that
Speaker 2: he had a talent for expression, he had a talent
Speaker 2: for presentation, and we immediately began to push him into
Speaker 2: that arena of which he took very well. You know,
Speaker 2: Larry was well known in this agency. There were times
Speaker 2: when I was not involved in his career directly, but
Speaker 2: I can tell you hundreds of people were. And just
Speaker 2: as you ticked off the number of special units that
Speaker 2: Larry was involved in, there are so many more things
Speaker 2: that he did as a first line officer in that,
Speaker 2: you know, in that wake of danger every day all day.
Speaker 2: And Larry didn't want to be promoted. That wasn't his goal.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be on that first line because he
Speaker 2: had skills to that to those endeavors.
Speaker 1: In fact, Tony Pike, who is the quarterback for you
Speaker 1: see the All American remembers, Larry Henderson had a special
Speaker 1: desire to be around the UC athletes, whether it was
Speaker 1: football or basketball. That he traveled to the bowl games,
Speaker 1: he was with them, and I know Tony Pike and
Speaker 1: others here that worked with him. Moeger that said, we
Speaker 1: know that guy, and he was just a wonderful professional
Speaker 1: being around. Do you know why he had such affinity
Speaker 1: for the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I don't know, Bill, I couldn't assume.
Speaker 2: You know that the people of University of Cincinnati I'm
Speaker 2: a bear Cat as well. That's a very attractive school
Speaker 2: with professional people, professional ball teams, and I know that
Speaker 2: they treated Larry very well, and Larry was really dedicated,
Speaker 2: very dedicated to making sure that that football team and
Speaker 2: any other sports were well managed and security was maintained.
Speaker 1: And serff, can you talk about detail work? But as
Speaker 1: many people don't understand, your retire you go home and
Speaker 1: you may play a little golf, pick up other little
Speaker 1: things to do. But that wasn't Larry Henderson. How does
Speaker 1: one serve thirty three years and then still wear the
Speaker 1: uniform and do detail work?
Speaker 3: How does that work?
Speaker 2: You know, Larry, Larry had a calling to this uniform.
Speaker 2: He was called to this uniform. That's the only reason
Speaker 2: why you continue to stay in this profession after you've retired.
Speaker 2: And Larry did stay. He stayed because we had a
Speaker 2: need and he knew that we had a need for
Speaker 2: deputies to work off due the events, important events, and
Speaker 2: it was very important to Larry to continue to give
Speaker 2: service to his community. As I said, it was in
Speaker 2: his blood and I'd like people to know this. Larry
Speaker 2: was awarded Larry was awarded our Medal of Honor and
Speaker 2: that's called the Medal of Valor for the Hamlet Kuinty
Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office in nineteen in nineteen after nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 2: Larry was on patrol in two thousand and one and
Speaker 2: there was a woman being held hostage. Larry was the
Speaker 2: first responder. The man it was domestic shot. He shot
Speaker 2: the woman just as Larry was entering the door, and
Speaker 2: Larry confronted the man and the man fled to the
Speaker 2: second floor. Larry maintained his position trying to save the
Speaker 2: woman's life who was literally shot in front of him,
Speaker 2: and also maintained that the subjects stayed on that second floor.
Speaker 2: What a dangerous situation that was until we could get
Speaker 2: people there. So he worked to save that woman's life
Speaker 2: and held that position and you know, in danger by
Speaker 2: himself with an armed assailant just up the steps from him.
Speaker 2: I will tell you that those are things that men
Speaker 2: and women do, and that's what Larry did because he
Speaker 2: has courage and that's something I want the public to know.
Speaker 1: Sheriff McGuffey, can you tell the American people as far
Speaker 1: as taking the murderer or Rodney Hinton thirty eight years
Speaker 1: old away from Hambley County to Claremont County. Why was
Speaker 1: that done?
Speaker 2: That was done because in law enforcement we learn that
Speaker 2: no matter what crime you have committed, whatever crime you
Speaker 2: are charged with, it is important that we maintain your
Speaker 2: custody and safety. And I know that things are very
Speaker 2: very emotional inside this department with every officer who works here,
Speaker 2: and we don't want is We don't want someone who's
Speaker 2: incarcerated who may try to bait our officers into bad behavior,
Speaker 2: and we don't want to take that chance. We want
Speaker 2: to make sure that that individual is handled in a
Speaker 2: professional way, that that person cannot put themselves in a
Speaker 2: situation where they could potentially bait deputies or even say
Speaker 2: something happened if it didn't, or you know, suffer any
Speaker 2: kind of backlash within the jail community. So we felt
Speaker 2: it very prudent to send him over to Claremont County.
Speaker 1: And of course, yesterday tyrone Yates, who I judge, tyrone
Speaker 1: Yates or I practiced law with for a little bit
Speaker 1: from the University of Taledo Law School as I went
Speaker 1: there too, I gave.
Speaker 3: Him no bond.
Speaker 1: As far as Laurie in the family, how I understand
Speaker 1: from off the air you've spent some time with Laurie Henderson,
Speaker 1: his lovely wife of many decades. I understand he had
Speaker 1: something like four or five children, many grandchildren. He was
Speaker 1: a foster parent, and I can only imagine that when
Speaker 1: Larry retired about four or five months ago, probably Laurie,
Speaker 1: his wife, sighed a sigh of relief because I was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not going to be detecting bombs and disarming bombs
Speaker 1: or diving in the Ohio River. He's not in swat
Speaker 1: He's now retired, with the thanks of a grateful department.
Speaker 1: How is the family taking this tragedy.
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you Bill, it was shocking. It
Speaker 2: was just shocking, and the grief to watch the family members,
Speaker 2: his wife and his children come to the hospital as
Speaker 2: they were getting the news that he was in such
Speaker 2: dire condition that he may not survive. And as you
Speaker 2: might imagine, and anyone who's lost a loved one, particularly
Speaker 2: in tragic circumstances, know that it's just hard to think.
Speaker 2: It's hard to know, you know, even where you're standing
Speaker 2: one moment to the other, and that was Laurie and
Speaker 2: his children. You know, they spent hours saying goodbye to Larry.
Speaker 2: And I'm certain that they're still absorbing just the shock
Speaker 2: of the tragedy that's occurred.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the proceedings Thursday and Fridays on
Speaker 1: various websites. I want to get in all those particular
Speaker 1: But I noticed at the news conference you conducted with
Speaker 1: Chief Thiji, this was particularly emotional for you.
Speaker 2: Correct, Oh, it most certainly was because you know, Bill,
Speaker 2: I knew Larry. I knew Larry personally, and so many
Speaker 2: men and women in this agency had very very close
Speaker 2: friendships with Larry. And you know when I saw him
Speaker 2: on the street, I mean, there's a camaraderie there, and
Speaker 2: your heart feels it before your head even recognizes that
Speaker 2: you met someone you know, and that's who Larry is.
Speaker 2: And I want to tell you that with all the
Speaker 2: things that Larry did, the dive team where you're down
Speaker 2: there in that dark water and you can't even see
Speaker 2: your hand in front of your face, the bomb squad,
Speaker 2: the FBI Task Force, you know, courage doesn't just stop
Speaker 2: and end with one event. Courage is the ability to
Speaker 2: feel fear and simply push past it. And when our
Speaker 2: officers and deputies served their exemplary careers, that is a
Speaker 2: skill and a quality that cannot be taught, that is born,
Speaker 2: and that is who Larry.
Speaker 3: Is, Sheriff McGuffey.
Speaker 1: You also indicated the other day at the news conference
Speaker 1: that whether it was Sunny Kim who was murdered in
Speaker 1: Madisonville or Larry Henderson who was murdered near the UC campus,
Speaker 1: that the earthly remains are never left alone until they're buried.
Speaker 1: Can you explain why that's the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, it's a tradition. It is a brother and
Speaker 2: sisterhood in law enforcement. And we have a fallen officer,
Speaker 2: that officer's casket will be guarded twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 2: and that means the honor Guard, in full Honor Guard uniform.
Speaker 2: One man will stand for a period a long period
Speaker 2: of time, and then another man or woman will step
Speaker 2: up and take his place or her place, and they
Speaker 2: will stand there for hours, and then another man will
Speaker 2: step up and stand for hours. And that is absolutely
Speaker 2: around the clock. You know, when men and women give
Speaker 2: their lives to this career and they raised the oath,
Speaker 2: we all raise the oath with them, and they are
Speaker 2: never to be alone. They will never stand alone. We
Speaker 2: will always stand with them. And that is what that symbolizes.
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson, We'll be buried on Friday. I'm sure you're aware.
Speaker 1: The social media brings out sometimes the worst in people,
Speaker 1: and there's certain threats being issued about the number of
Speaker 1: police coming. I understand from your chief deputy that there's
Speaker 1: going to be agencies all over the country coming here,
Speaker 1: but especially in the tri state Kentucky, Inn and Ohio
Speaker 1: are all going to be there. Is there a heightened
Speaker 1: sense of a concern about further activities against police on
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday because of the funeral proceedings, and some
Speaker 1: are making threats against the law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, certainly, Bill, we live in reality. The
Speaker 2: police live in reality, and part of what we are
Speaker 2: trained to do is to prepare for the unknown and
Speaker 2: to prepare for worst case scenario, worse environments. And we're
Speaker 2: absolutely prepared. We're one hundred percent prepared. We're monitoring those things,
Speaker 2: We're monitoring faate Book as we do daily to keep
Speaker 2: the community safe. And the community is going to remain safe.
Speaker 2: And my message to the community is this, we are mourning.
Speaker 2: We all should be mourning, and we're mourning the tragic events,
Speaker 2: the tragic death of our officer our deputy who was
Speaker 2: simply doing his job. And I understand that the community
Speaker 2: is hurting. Black people are hurting, White people are hurting,
Speaker 2: people of color are hurting. But listen, this is a
Speaker 2: situation of mourning for all of us, whoever you mourn,
Speaker 2: and we are mourning Larry Henderson, and I am asking
Speaker 2: the community to allow us to allow us the margin
Speaker 2: to do this and to give Larry, who deserves it
Speaker 2: so much. He saves lives, he has saved lives, Allow
Speaker 2: us to mourn, Allow us to mourn in our margin,
Speaker 2: and I promise you that we will all work together
Speaker 2: to heal, to heal and build bridges once again in
Speaker 2: this community as time marches on.
Speaker 1: Lastly, I know there's threats against law enforcement on social
Speaker 1: media that you're monitoring by the way, that could arise
Speaker 1: to the level of a crime. And if someone makes
Speaker 1: a threat, that's not freedom of speech. That is something
Speaker 1: that is not protected, and someone should be careful about
Speaker 1: threatening to do harm to law enforcement, especially during the
Speaker 1: funeral of Larry Henderson. Lastly, I've received many indications of
Speaker 1: how Americans can help with defraying some of the financial
Speaker 1: expenses that the Henderson family will have that are not
Speaker 1: covered by the state or by the county. Can you
Speaker 1: tell the American people about the Shield and the work
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, so. The Shield is an organization that provides
Speaker 2: for officers who are fallen in the lad line of duty.
Speaker 2: And what the Shield does is provide financial assistance, emotional assistance,
Speaker 2: pure support, counseling. And you know, oftentimes there are children involved,
Speaker 2: and the Shield makes sure that they get to continue
Speaker 2: in the schools that they're already enrolled in and so forth,
Speaker 2: and provides for the family long beyond the funeral services
Speaker 2: and the goodbye and the sendoffs. So it's a very
Speaker 2: important organization. And I'm telling you they're there every hour
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven to attend to the family's needs.
Speaker 2: And I think we can all appreciate what that's like
Speaker 2: in grief and the Shield. If you would like to
Speaker 2: make donations, please beware that, unfortunately there are criminals out
Speaker 2: there who do very unscrupulous things, awful things. But if
Speaker 2: you want to participate with the Shield, go to the
Speaker 2: website and it's the shield S H I E. L.
Speaker 2: D Ohio the whole word Ohio dot com. That is
Speaker 2: where your donation will be safe and that's where you
Speaker 2: know that whatever you send will get to the right place.
Speaker 1: And if someone has these fictitious sights up, they should
Speaker 1: be aware that that's a crime. It's called it's called fraud,
Speaker 1: it's wire fraud, it's illegal, and hopefully they will be
Speaker 1: held to account. I had to sit up now and
Speaker 1: it has a little button that says donate the Shield
Speaker 1: as an organization seeking to serve the families of officers
Speaker 1: critically injured or killed in the line of duty within
Speaker 1: the Ohio counties of Hamilton and some others. And once
Speaker 1: in Sheriff McGuffey, and I know you're going to stay strong.
Speaker 1: I know the next few days will be extremely difficult.
Speaker 1: And may you and yours be left with the idea
Speaker 1: of positive memories about Larry Henderson and the fact that
Speaker 1: he received the Medal of Valor for his activities some
Speaker 1: twenty four years ago. And he served this nation, served
Speaker 1: this county well as a marine that's aid Deputy Sheriff,
Speaker 1: and he gave his life so we can live free.
Speaker 1: And Sheriff McGuffey, once again, thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill cunning m Show, and good luck to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, and thank you to all people in the
Speaker 2: community who are supporting us. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more. The Shield Ohio dot
Speaker 1: com is the official website. I know the federal authorities
Speaker 1: and the state are going to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: the sites to make sure those who seek to raise
Speaker 1: money fraudulently will be held to account for that criminal misbehavior.
Speaker 1: News coming up next at your home of the Reds
Speaker 1: kicking off tonight about six oh five on news radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW. But for the grace of God, there
Speaker 1: goes I. I can imagine there's few thousand law enforcement
Speaker 1: officials from the FBI to US Marshall Service, to corrections officers,
Speaker 1: to city cops, county cops, whether it's in Boone, Kenton, Campbell,
Speaker 1: or Claremont County, that are thinking now. But for the
Speaker 1: grace of God, there goes Eye in that casket. Every
Speaker 1: now and then you have a Sunny Kim situation, or
Speaker 1: you have a situation like Larry Anderson in which an
Speaker 1: individual purposely seeks to kill a police officer because that's
Speaker 1: what they want to do. And in one case, at
Speaker 1: least in cases, Sonny Kim, the perpetrator was killed by
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati police who wanted to kill a cop. And
Speaker 1: the reason he wanted to kill a cop is because
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, that is, the murderer, was going to charge
Speaker 1: him with rape. And I think his name was Hummons,
Speaker 1: if I have a good memory. Hummons did not want
Speaker 1: to go back to jail, so he made a nine
Speaker 1: to one one called a lower cop, any cop to
Speaker 1: a street in Madisonville kind of head behind his mother
Speaker 1: as the mother begins talking to Officer Sonny Kim. Sonny
Speaker 1: Kim did not appreciate the danger he was in because
Speaker 1: he was looking for a man with a gun. The
Speaker 1: first person he encountered was the mother of the murderer,
Speaker 1: who by the way, had nothing to do with the murder.
Speaker 3: Unbeknownst to her.
Speaker 1: Behind her was her son with a gun, and he
Speaker 1: kind of reached her out his mother and fired men
Speaker 1: many shots at Sonny Kim, and one hit a seam
Speaker 1: and killed one of the best police officers Cincinnati ever had.
Speaker 3: And his name was Sonny Kim.
Speaker 1: And as I told you, when you go, I go
Speaker 1: to Gate to Heaven Cemetery, I go to his grave
Speaker 1: and say a prayer thanks for the twenty seven years
Speaker 1: of service he provided to the people of Cincinnati. Most
Speaker 1: shootings of police officers do not involve a targeting of
Speaker 1: cops for murder. Most of the shootings involved arm robberies,
Speaker 1: going amiss or something that character In Sonny Kim's case,
Speaker 1: this murderer, this cold blooded murderer, looked to kill as
Speaker 1: many cops as possible. Just the first one was Sonny Kim.
Speaker 1: And in this case, Rodney Hinton Junior wanted to kill
Speaker 1: a police officer. And you've heard over the last few
Speaker 1: days some of the guests I've had on who were
Speaker 1: present at the time that the video was shown to
Speaker 1: the family of Ryan Hinton, who was killed because of
Speaker 1: his behavehavior by a Cincinnati police officer, And there was
Speaker 1: no indication according to Michael Wright, who was present the
Speaker 1: attorney for the estate, that Rodney Hinton was about to
Speaker 1: kill a cop and when he left District One made
Speaker 1: his way somehow over to uc his state of gold
Speaker 1: by his behavior was to murder a police officer a
Speaker 1: cowardly way, in cold blood and target him. Yesterday, there
Speaker 1: was a no bond hearing in front of Judge tyrone
Speaker 1: Yates and Cincinnati police had given some evidence about what occurred,
Speaker 1: and the police detective indicated that Rodney Hinton, thirty eight
Speaker 1: year old Rodney Hinting kind of positioned his car, waited
Speaker 1: a little bit until traffic cleared, he crossed against lanes
Speaker 1: of traffic and there operating the traffic control system for
Speaker 1: that intersection of Brendan Woods and mL King was a
Speaker 1: deputy sheriff of Larry Henderson. Wrong place, wrong time, But
Speaker 1: it could have been any cop. I can only imagine
Speaker 1: if he ran into a cop in Sharonville or won
Speaker 1: in Boone County, or an FBI agent with a uniform
Speaker 1: mom he would have killed them too. He just wanted
Speaker 1: to kill a cop. Coming up in about thirty minutes
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, we have attorney Clyde Bennett will be
Speaker 1: well joining you and I. Clyde Bennett is the attorney
Speaker 1: for Rodney Hinton. He also is the attorney for that
Speaker 1: Forest Park murder that calls such a fracas in Room
Speaker 1: May yesterday. So he made a suggestion of insanity on
Speaker 1: the record, and as you know, if you've listened to
Speaker 1: me the last couple days, I thought the only possible
Speaker 1: defense might be insanity or some sort of diminished capacity,
Speaker 1: because it appears that factually Rodney Hinton Junior committed the offense.
Speaker 1: They dragged his body out of the car and he
Speaker 1: went into the hospital. Nobody else was in the car,
Speaker 1: and as I understand it, there were no skid marks,
Speaker 1: And as I understand it, the police have the car
Speaker 1: and they're for closing the door on the accelerator stuck,
Speaker 1: which could have been a defense, and they're going to
Speaker 1: determine quite quickly that there was nothing mechanically wrong with
Speaker 1: the car when it struck the body of Larry Henderson,
Speaker 1: sending him a fly in. And as I understand from
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police, there's a video of that happening too, which
Speaker 1: will be shown a trial, and we don't need to
Speaker 1: see that. So Clyde Bennett's options an affirmative defense means
Speaker 1: that my client committed the crime, but he's not legally
Speaker 1: responsible for it, such as self defense such as NNGRI
Speaker 1: not guilty of by reason of insanity. And the first
Speaker 1: suggestion he's going to come up to is whether or
Speaker 1: not he seemed to indicate it yesterday that being Clyde
Speaker 1: Bennett as client had mental problems, and if that's the case,
Speaker 1: he could file a suggestion of insanity next week, which
Speaker 1: would require that Rodney Hinton subject himself to psychological slash
Speaker 1: psychiatric testing to determine if he's able to consult with
Speaker 1: his attorney and understands the nature of the charges against him.
Speaker 1: No one has brought to trial if they're suffering some
Speaker 1: sort of psychotic episode.
Speaker 3: So Clyde Bennett, in a sense, would have to follow.
Speaker 1: It's a suggestion of insanity to indicate that I can't
Speaker 1: talk to my client. He doesn't understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: doesn't understand where he is presently, doesn't understand he's soon
Speaker 1: under indictment fragg murder with a speck.
Speaker 3: He doesn't understand. And if that's the case, there'll.
Speaker 1: Be a psychiatrist for the state and for the defense
Speaker 1: to quiz Rodney Hinton Junior as to whether or not
Speaker 1: he understands what's going on. And that's a judicial determination.
Speaker 1: A judge must determine whether or not a person is
Speaker 1: mentally alert and can stand trial or admitted defenses. An
Speaker 1: affirmative defense means that he committed committed factually the crime,
Speaker 1: but he's not legally responsible, such as n g RI.
Speaker 1: I yes, So I want to ask Clyde Bennett if
Speaker 1: he's going to file a suggestion of insanity to have
Speaker 1: him examined now to say whether or not he understand
Speaker 1: the nature of charges against him. Not guilty of our
Speaker 1: reason of insanity, he's the only defense he has. Self defense,
Speaker 1: wouldn't I don't think apply when someone kills someone and
Speaker 1: claims self defense, and NGRI would mean that your client
Speaker 1: did not understand the differences between right and wrong and
Speaker 1: could not conform his behavior to the dictates of law,
Speaker 1: and that he's because he's suffering from psychotic or other
Speaker 1: type paranoid schizophrenic episode, the result of which is he
Speaker 1: could not conform his behavior to law. If you have
Speaker 1: a form of a mental illness that substantially affects your
Speaker 1: actions and capacity to commit a crime, you can be
Speaker 1: excused for committing that crime, which is I think the
Speaker 1: defense is going to be charged under twenty nine oh
Speaker 1: one point one fourteen, and that law says that you're
Speaker 1: not guilty of our reason of insanity if you can
Speaker 1: prove that you didn't know, as a result of a
Speaker 1: severe mental disease or defect, the wrongfulness of your actions.
Speaker 1: And at that raiment n g r I, the judge
Speaker 1: formally reached the charge and obviously if a severe mental
Speaker 1: illness is present, what counts as a mental disease would
Speaker 1: effect considers strong enough. There's several categories, most of which
Speaker 1: you are familiar with. Paranoid, schizophrenic delusion, maybe UH fail
Speaker 1: to recognize reality, something of that character. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens down the road. But we do know Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday it's going to be proceedings to properly UH
Speaker 1: send the body of Larry Henderson into the ground, as
Speaker 1: his soul is in heaven awaiting, and someone if there's
Speaker 1: a heaven, if there's a heaven above and Jesus is
Speaker 1: sitting at the right hand of the Father, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that he welcome in glory the soul of Deputy Sheriff
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson because he gave his life for his friends
Speaker 1: and his family. No greater love than a man has
Speaker 1: or a woman to give their life for their friends,
Speaker 1: for the family, and for their country.
Speaker 3: And that's what happened here.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see after one o'clock today
Speaker 1: what Clyde Bennett has to say. And he's considered to
Speaker 1: one of the eminent criminal offense attorneys in the Tri
Speaker 1: State right now, and the only defense he has would
Speaker 1: be insanity, which he kind of set it up yesterday
Speaker 1: now to contradict the insanity you might have. You want
Speaker 1: to know his treatment history is Rodney Hinton been treated
Speaker 1: for psychiatric conditions. He's thirty eight years old. Insanity could
Speaker 1: come on later in life, but normally there's precursors ahead
Speaker 1: of time. And to demonstrate that insanity, you put on
Speaker 1: treating physicians to indicate the degree of the delusion or paranoi,
Speaker 1: its schizophrenia. With the effective components that exist in his mind,
Speaker 1: that he could not know the differences between right and wrong,
Speaker 1: could not conform his behavior to the dictates of the law,
Speaker 1: and did this in his mind because he thought it
Speaker 1: was somehow justified to kill a cop, any cop, because
Speaker 1: his son, who was in possession of a nine millimeter
Speaker 1: with an extended meg was attempting or trying to attempt
Speaker 1: to elude capture, and every reason to believe he would
Speaker 1: have used the gun, otherwise he wouldn't have taken it.
Speaker 1: He had three or four occasions Ranney Hinton did at
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen not to do what he did.
Speaker 1: Number one, when he's in the car, the stolen car
Speaker 1: from Edgewood, Kentucky. When the police arrived on the scene
Speaker 1: with their sirens of blaring and the lights going. He
Speaker 1: could have simply got out of the car, put his
Speaker 1: hands up and within six or eight hours he'd be
Speaker 1: out of jail.
Speaker 3: And Ryan Hinton would be alive and Larry Henderson would
Speaker 3: be alive. Well.
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton decided not to do that. He made a
Speaker 1: conscious decision to get out of the car, reaching back
Speaker 1: into the car and grabbing a nine millimeter by the
Speaker 1: way with ammo in the chamber. Someone had cocked it
Speaker 1: and put the put a slug in the bullet. There
Speaker 1: was a bullet in the chamber with the safety off,
Speaker 1: and at that point he made a decision to use
Speaker 1: that gun. Why would you take the gun if you
Speaker 1: weren't planning on using it just for the hell of it.
Speaker 1: Having a gun makes it more difficult to run, So
Speaker 1: his choice was not simply to run through the woods
Speaker 1: with his other three compatriots. But he was the only
Speaker 1: one that took a gun. There was one other gun
Speaker 1: found in the car, and none of the other three
Speaker 1: took the gun with him. One person took the gun,
Speaker 1: that was Ryan Hinton. Why did he take the gun, sir,
Speaker 1: why he had an intend to use it? He took
Speaker 1: about six or seven steps and panic and fell on
Speaker 1: the pavement and the gun fell separately from Rodney Hinton's body.
Speaker 1: Rodney Hitton got up, bent over and picked up the
Speaker 1: gun again off the pavement. Now why did he do
Speaker 1: that if he didn't intend to use it. He then
Speaker 1: ran in between two dumpsters to provide cover. His other
Speaker 1: compatriots did not run between dumpsters. There's a wooded area.
Speaker 1: They simply headed out for the woods. But Ryan Hinton
Speaker 1: won a different direction. Came through these mental dumpsters that
Speaker 1: are about.
Speaker 3: Eight feet high.
Speaker 1: And according to the police, the first thing the officer
Speaker 1: noted after one of his fellow officers yelled gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: that's when the guns came out by the police, they
Speaker 1: pulled out their service weapons because when you're trained to
Speaker 1: hear gun, gun, gun, it's on. So the officer then
Speaker 1: sees Rodney Hinton, who had three chances to stop what
Speaker 1: was going to occur. Number one, put your hands up
Speaker 1: with the car itself.
Speaker 4: He didn't.
Speaker 1: Number two reached back into the car and grab a
Speaker 1: nine millimeter loaded and number three, when he tripped on
Speaker 1: the pavement and could have simply ran away at that
Speaker 1: point without the gun. He took the gun with him
Speaker 1: with a specific purpose in mind. I would suggest to
Speaker 1: you to kill police. And when he came out of
Speaker 1: the dumpster area, the officer perceived a threat and fired
Speaker 1: and and killed Ryan Hinton. An officer does not have
Speaker 1: to wait to get shot at before he shoots. Some
Speaker 1: might say, well, I think the evidence is going to
Speaker 1: be he was shot kind of sideways in the chest,
Speaker 1: a little bit below the armpit, and I think the
Speaker 1: pullet went on the left side of his chest came
Speaker 1: out the right side.
Speaker 3: That was the so called kill shot.
Speaker 1: Does the officer have to wait till he's wounded or
Speaker 1: shot at before he returns fire. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Was it reasonable to assume that the officer thought his
Speaker 1: life was in eminent danger absolutely along with the lives
Speaker 1: of his other fellow officers. He had the capability of
Speaker 1: firing about twenty five shots because of the extended may
Speaker 1: So everything that happened was completely controlled by Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: and everything the police did was pursuing of their training
Speaker 1: to save their lives and the lives of others. Let's
Speaker 1: continue after one o'clock today, in about ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: We have eminent crimin offense attorney Clyde Bennett's going to
Speaker 1: join us and we're going to discuss his defense of
Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton. And right now at this point in a sense,
Speaker 1: but we have an eminent criminal defense attorney walking in
Speaker 1: the shoes of less gains, and that's Clyde Bennett, and
Speaker 1: Clyde Bennett's going to take on this case and many others.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to quiz him number one, why you
Speaker 1: taking this case? And number two, what are the available defenses?
Speaker 1: And number three are you going to seek an evaluation
Speaker 1: of Rodney Hinton? Number four are you going to admit
Speaker 1: that Rodney Hinton committed the offense but that is not
Speaker 1: legally responsible because of the mental conditions that he possessed
Speaker 1: at that time. Let's continue, Sad. Sad said Thursday and
Speaker 1: Friday is going to be awful. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of social media making this a racial issue, which is
Speaker 1: it is not the only thing that matters in this
Speaker 1: case is the behavior of Ryan Hinton. If a person
Speaker 1: white as chalk and the exactly the same thing, the
Speaker 1: same result would have happened if the cop was black.
Speaker 1: And Ryan Hinton was white, same thing would have happened.
Speaker 1: And I'd say exactly the same thing. But there's a
Speaker 1: left wing radical element in this community that wants to
Speaker 1: make everything racial because of certain benefits derived by making
Speaker 1: the allegations. And I give the NAACP some credit. At
Speaker 1: least they're not as extreme as they were under Joe Mallory.
Speaker 1: And the head of the NAACP now is making some
Speaker 1: lucid statements which we appreciate. Race has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this. It's about behavior. Let's continue. Twelve fifty five
Speaker 1: HOMEO Reds News Radio seven hundred.
Speaker 3: Wow. My Billy Cunningham, the.
Speaker 1: Great American, of course, defined the criminal defense attorney for
Speaker 1: the defendant in this case, Rodney Hinton Junior is Clyde Bennett.
Speaker 1: And Clyde Bennett Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And first of all, Clyde, can you tell the American
Speaker 1: people why you took this case?
Speaker 5: Well, I took this case for the same reason I
Speaker 5: take all of my cases. I think it's my guy
Speaker 5: given purpose to stand next to the accused and to
Speaker 5: represent them.
Speaker 4: This case is no different.
Speaker 5: Except that it had some some publicity to it and
Speaker 5: it's potentially politically and racially charged. I don't shy wife
Speaker 5: shy aways in cases. The family called me, the family
Speaker 5: asked me to represent him. I knew it would be
Speaker 5: a challenging case. I prayed about it, I got an answer.
Speaker 5: I told the family I would accept the case. And
Speaker 5: that's what I'm doing, well, critic, I want to be
Speaker 5: clear up something. No, Bill, A lot of people think
Speaker 5: that they see me in these high profile cases, and
Speaker 5: they think that I go out and try to get
Speaker 5: these cases.
Speaker 4: And I've been called an ambulance chaser, and so I
Speaker 4: don't do that.
Speaker 5: The only way you're going to see me on a
Speaker 5: case somebody has called me, and somebody has asked me
Speaker 5: to represent me to represent them, and then thirdly they
Speaker 5: paid me. So this case was no different.
Speaker 1: In some cases. You talk about political and racial element.
Speaker 1: What is in your mind or sell the family's mind,
Speaker 1: the political aspects of this case. How does politics and
Speaker 1: or race play into.
Speaker 5: This Politically, you have a police officer that was killed.
Speaker 4: You have a victim that is.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, admired by the public, and a lot of
Speaker 5: value is placed on his life more so than other individuals. Now,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm just telling you
Speaker 5: what it is. That's the reality of the situation. For example,
Speaker 5: you kill a lay person down on sixth Street, Okay,
Speaker 5: John Doe got shot. But if you kill a police officer,
Speaker 5: there's more significance attached to that person. That person is
Speaker 5: valued more by society.
Speaker 4: Rightly so.
Speaker 5: But the bottom line is, that's the situation that you're
Speaker 5: dealing with. So you have a political animis that you
Speaker 5: typically would not have with respect to an average person's
Speaker 5: being killed. Anybody who disagreed with that, they're not being truthful.
Speaker 5: That's the way it is. So you have a political
Speaker 5: charge here because when an officer dies, people want to
Speaker 5: do something about it. That's your last line against lawlessness.
Speaker 5: So it makes sense. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm
Speaker 5: telling you what it is.
Speaker 1: And what's the racial aspect of this case.
Speaker 5: The racial aspect, the potential racial aspect is you have
Speaker 5: a white police officer and you have a black defender. Now,
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean that somebody is a racist for bringing
Speaker 5: the charge. That doesn't mean that the people feel a
Speaker 5: certain way or everybody feels a certain way because of
Speaker 5: the racial makeup of the defendant and the victim. But
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, race is a factor
Speaker 5: and can't be a factor. Look at the comments, look
Speaker 5: at look look at what the people are saying about
Speaker 5: this case. And anybody that is aware and privy of
Speaker 5: what's being said about this case publicly by the public
Speaker 5: is aware that race can be an issue.
Speaker 1: On that yep I had on the sheriff about an
Speaker 1: hour ago, and yesterday I spoke with Michael Right of
Speaker 1: the Cochrane Law firm. He's representing the civil aspects of
Speaker 1: eighteen year old or Ryan Hinton, and to investigate that
Speaker 1: is there any coordination between you representing Rodney Hinton the
Speaker 1: father and Michael Wright representing in a sense, the estate
Speaker 1: of Ryan Hinton the son. Is any coordination between you two.
Speaker 5: No whatsoever, two different matters, two different individuals to represent
Speaker 5: the estate. I represent Rodney Hinton Junior at an individual
Speaker 5: that's charged with the commission of a client. No coordination,
Speaker 5: no association whatsoever. Absolutely illegally.
Speaker 1: You mentioned at the arrangement and as subsequent proceedings. I
Speaker 1: think it was yesterday that insanity may be offered. As
Speaker 1: you know, there's a competency test to stand trial, whether
Speaker 1: the defender understands the nature of the charges against them
Speaker 1: and can assist you in the defense and the other aspects.
Speaker 1: Is NGRIS to be determined by jury? Are you going
Speaker 1: to file motions of competency that is suggesting that Rodney
Speaker 1: hint it's not capable of assisting in this defense, or
Speaker 1: where you simply at some point looking to NGRI instead.
Speaker 5: Potentially that may be ampleting, that may be fouled. But
Speaker 5: the first thing I need to do is to acquaint
Speaker 5: myself with all of the evidence to make certain that
Speaker 5: the state, in my opinion, can prove beyond a reasonable
Speaker 5: doubt whether or not.
Speaker 4: He purposely.
Speaker 5: Tried to kill this police officer or Deputy Henderson, Deputy
Speaker 5: Larry Inderson.
Speaker 4: That's the first thing to do, and that's going to
Speaker 4: take some time because I'll have to bit the evidence.
Speaker 5: I'm also very acquainted with the mentality or the mental
Speaker 5: state of my client, and I'm looking at that also.
Speaker 5: No decision has been made. I've got a lot of
Speaker 5: work to do to decide the best course of defense
Speaker 5: for my client.
Speaker 1: Union are you going to appeal the decision by Judge
Speaker 1: tyrone Yates to the Common Police Court? At some point
Speaker 1: I would think sometime in the next four or five days,
Speaker 1: your client's going to be in it likely for capital
Speaker 1: murder with a stepth penalty. Spec Are you going to
Speaker 1: try to get your client out on bond during the proceedings.
Speaker 5: I'm going to attempt to, but I know as a
Speaker 5: matter of law that's going to be very difficult because
Speaker 5: if you charge with the capital offense camps, the camps
Speaker 5: that be getting bond is.
Speaker 4: Clemmed Anne and even if these invited.
Speaker 5: Just for aggravated murder, it's going to be swimming up
Speaker 5: if you look at that no bond statue based on
Speaker 5: what transpired, particularly if you're taking the consideration of mental state,
Speaker 5: there would be a good reason for him to be
Speaker 5: detained throughout the pendency of the criminal proceedings. I'm not
Speaker 5: going to previously do anything right.
Speaker 1: You're a late person when it comes to psychiatric matter,
Speaker 1: so that you've had many experiences with n GRI. I
Speaker 1: do you have when you talk with Rodney Hinton? Is
Speaker 1: he able to understand what you're saying to him, does
Speaker 1: he understand the nature of the charges against him? And
Speaker 1: can he counsel with you in preparing a defense.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go into that going into a
Speaker 5: turning client privilege, and I don't think that's in advantations
Speaker 5: for him at this day the legal process. I am
Speaker 5: aware of whether or not he's competent or and competent
Speaker 5: based on my air actions with him. I am aware
Speaker 5: of whether or not, in my opinion, he may not
Speaker 5: have known the wrong.
Speaker 4: From this of his conduct.
Speaker 5: That'll come out in the future if that's the most
Speaker 5: appropriate applicable.
Speaker 4: Defense of this case.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I have had in the past, many, many, many.
Speaker 5: Cases involved in the defensive not guilty by reason number sanity,
Speaker 5: and I've got acquittals were not guilty by Redumber sanity
Speaker 5: no matter of fact. The only other death only case
Speaker 5: that received me not guilty by Resember scentity was my
Speaker 5: case probably about I don't know, fifteen or twenty years ago,
Speaker 5: when a woman killed her two children and she was
Speaker 5: insane and she was found not guilty by Resumber Sansey.
Speaker 5: So I have some experience with it, and thank god,
Speaker 5: my daughter is a psychiatric nurse practitioner.
Speaker 4: So I can lean on her too. I think, from
Speaker 4: what I've seen deal his little state is an issue,
Speaker 4: his middle state is an issue. I don't think that.
Speaker 6: This young man.
Speaker 5: Had an evil mind or criminal mind to kill a
Speaker 5: police officer because of what had happened to us. I
Speaker 5: think seeing that video exacerbated a precipitated a cap in
Speaker 5: the middle.
Speaker 4: Disease, a debate that he already had.
Speaker 6: Did he go?
Speaker 5: You know so that that that's an issue.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think he was in his right frame of
Speaker 5: mind based on everything that I've seen.
Speaker 1: You know Clyde a few days ago ahead on Chief
Speaker 1: of Police Thigi, who was present when the video was
Speaker 1: being shown. Uh, do you are you saying that the
Speaker 1: video and the timing of the video may be an
Speaker 1: element you bring up that triggered an underlying psychiatric condition
Speaker 1: that resulted in the murder of Larry Henderson. That are
Speaker 1: you saying the video should not have been shown when
Speaker 1: it was shown.
Speaker 4: That is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
Speaker 4: the video could have triggered that's like answered episode that
Speaker 4: rendered him unable to understand.
Speaker 5: The wrongfulness of his conduct. I'm not blaming anybody for it.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you what may have happened to him physiologically.
Speaker 5: That's a regular as a result of saying.
Speaker 4: That video, if you already have a sick mind.
Speaker 5: And you see that it can facultate that type of conduct.
Speaker 5: And if you look, if you look at what's transpired,
Speaker 5: Typically when somebody does not understand the wrongfulness of their
Speaker 5: conduct because they have a mental defect or condition, they're brazen,
Speaker 5: their bold and their attentional with their acts, and they
Speaker 5: don't try to hide.
Speaker 4: Them because what they think they're doing is right in
Speaker 4: your mind and their sick mind. You think it's right.
Speaker 4: They don't think it's wrong.
Speaker 5: They don't understand the wrongness of their conduct, so they
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 4: They're almost proud of it. Y'ah did it?
Speaker 7: Does?
Speaker 5: They're stick in their mind? And I think besides the
Speaker 5: hallmarks of that type of that type of mentality and
Speaker 5: that type of behavior.
Speaker 1: Clyde Bennett. Does Rodney Hinton Junior have a history of
Speaker 1: psychiatric difficulties or has every been diagnosed with parano schizophrenia
Speaker 1: with effective components or delusional behaviors? Does he have a
Speaker 1: history of treatment up to this he's thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1: Does he have a history.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to get into the specifics of the history,
Speaker 5: but he has a mental history, suficer to say, and
Speaker 5: it's document.
Speaker 3: And you're going to use that well.
Speaker 1: I mean that's important because someone could have a psychiatric
Speaker 1: episode at the age of thirty eight. But normally, if
Speaker 1: someone's thirty eight years old, they've lived about half their life.
Speaker 1: And if he has a history of psychiatric conditions, I
Speaker 1: would say the woman that you got n gri on
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, killing or two babies, had a history
Speaker 1: of psychological psychiatric difficulties. The state should have jumped in
Speaker 1: at some point taking the kids away. But that's a
Speaker 1: different issue. But in this particular case, I spoke to
Speaker 1: a prosecutor who told me, well, when he left District one,
Speaker 1: having seen the video those presents, said he did not
Speaker 1: express any unusual attestations toward a police officer. That he
Speaker 1: got into his car, he was mentally alert to put
Speaker 1: the key in the ignition, put his foot on the
Speaker 1: gas and drive. He seemingly obeyed traffic laws. His mind
Speaker 1: was operating. According to a witness who testified I think
Speaker 1: you tried to cross examine him yesterday, said that he
Speaker 1: stopped his vehicle on mL King and then he looked
Speaker 1: and that he had time to consider no skid marks.
Speaker 1: He purposely drove the car and there's a terrible video
Speaker 1: which I've not yet seen, of Deputy Shriff Larry Henderson
Speaker 1: flying in the air when he was struck. And so
Speaker 1: just before he was struck, your client was exhibiting mental
Speaker 1: awareness of his circumstances by driving a car done that
Speaker 1: work against the interests.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, Okay, everything you said is
Speaker 5: consistent with being insane at the times to committed with this.
Speaker 5: Because the physical manifestation indicates that you're aware of what
Speaker 5: you're doing mentally, that doesn't mean that you're in your
Speaker 5: right mind. You're still functionally mentally, but if you're sick
Speaker 5: or you have a defect or a condition psychosis, being bipolar, schizophrenia,
Speaker 5: you still act and function a certain way, and to
Speaker 5: the outside it may look like you understand, you know
Speaker 5: what you're doing, but you're don't. You're working under the
Speaker 5: authority of the defect or the condition. So if you're bipolar,
Speaker 5: you're doing things somebody just looking at you might say, well, well,
Speaker 5: he stabbed that person.
Speaker 4: He knew what he was doing. Well, yeah, it looks
Speaker 4: like he did. But if he's sick and.
Speaker 5: He has a defect or mental condition, he doesn't know
Speaker 5: what he's doing. So even though in the other thing, yes,
Speaker 5: this appears to be an intentional act.
Speaker 4: Again, look at.
Speaker 5: Mental conditions and defects. When you're insane and when you
Speaker 5: all commit criminal acts. Again, they're bold, they're intentional, and they're.
Speaker 6: Conspicuous, they're obvious.
Speaker 5: And that's what happened in this case, is to kill
Speaker 5: till side of classic insanity. And it's like the woman
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, she killed her children. She drove him
Speaker 5: in the tub. The police was called by neighbor. The
Speaker 5: neighbor came knocked that door and said, hey, weren't kid
Speaker 5: that She said it be in the bathtub.
Speaker 4: I drowned him.
Speaker 5: I got to nuble one of them.
Speaker 4: She didn't try to hide it.
Speaker 5: She was It was an intentional by her, but she
Speaker 5: was crazy.
Speaker 4: As far as what you're saying, it supports what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: N gr eyes an affirmative defense, which says, I admit
Speaker 1: I committed the defense, but don't have legal responsibility.
Speaker 3: And you're not going to contend, are you.
Speaker 1: Uh, you're stating in the fact that Larry Henderson was
Speaker 1: killed by Rodney Hinton, however, he's not legally liable. You're
Speaker 1: not going to contend that he was the guy behind
Speaker 1: the wheel of the car that had Larry Henderson. You're
Speaker 1: going to concede that correct.
Speaker 5: At this stage. The legal process has previously gave it
Speaker 5: a few minutes ago. Once I go through all of
Speaker 5: the events, I will decide what is the best defense
Speaker 5: for my client. But based on my affiliation and acquaintance
Speaker 5: with this case at this point and the evidence that
Speaker 5: my investigator has come up with and what I've looked at,
Speaker 5: it appears that the most appropriate defense is that are
Speaker 5: not guilty.
Speaker 1: If by reading on the sanity and lastly, Clyde Bennett,
Speaker 1: what message would you give to the community. There's been
Speaker 1: some social media postings about injury or death inflicted upon
Speaker 1: police during the funeral proceedings, which are Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1: The bareral is going to be on Friday, this visitation
Speaker 1: for Larry Henderson. I would assume none of the family
Speaker 1: of Rodney Hinton will be there. I assume you will
Speaker 1: not be there. But what message would you give to
Speaker 1: the greater community of out taking further retribution against the police.
Speaker 4: I think that is wrong. I think it's.
Speaker 5: Criminal, and I don't think anybody should involve themselves in
Speaker 5: any capacity.
Speaker 4: With respect to these ceremonies and procedures for defue Larry.
Speaker 5: Henderson number one. Number two, I don't think that anybody is.
Speaker 5: I think that if you hear that, that's just a
Speaker 5: fodder for the media.
Speaker 4: And there's no factual basis for that actually happens happening.
Speaker 4: Number two, The Hidden.
Speaker 5: Family respects, appreciates, and admires law enforcement.
Speaker 4: Clyde Bennett appreciates an admires law enforcement. Clyde Bennet and
Speaker 4: mister Henderson or Deputy Henderson, there's respect, there's admiration and
Speaker 4: appreciation from the Hidden Family and defense counsel. It's just
Speaker 4: that I have a job to do for mister Hinton.
Speaker 4: No disrespect to.
Speaker 5: Deputy Henderson, the Hamlet County Sheriff's Department, there's other colleagues
Speaker 5: and fellows. I'm sorry, we're playing for you. We're praying
Speaker 5: for Deputy Henderson, and we're praying for his family, and
Speaker 5: I'm also.
Speaker 4: Praying for my city, Cincinnata.
Speaker 5: So that's where I am. Now.
Speaker 4: It's not injury for me to do. What would I do?
Speaker 5: There's always a spiritual and emotional quandary what I have
Speaker 5: to go through with cases like this. In most of
Speaker 5: my cases. But I've got a compartment a LOI that.
Speaker 4: And do what God has put me on his surf
Speaker 4: to do, and that stands for the cues.
Speaker 1: Lastly, Clyde Bennett, what's the next proceeding? I would anticipate
Speaker 1: have you been informed he'll be indicted in the next
Speaker 1: five or six days?
Speaker 6: Is that the next step?
Speaker 1: And then you'll be in an arrangment in front of
Speaker 1: common place court where you seek to have the bond
Speaker 1: a change.
Speaker 3: Is the next proceeding the indictment.
Speaker 5: The next proceeding is the indictment, and that'll be within
Speaker 5: a week, like you said, probably Friday Monday at the latest.
Speaker 5: And then we'll be back in court that Friday, uh
Speaker 5: basing the arrayment and injuring another plea.
Speaker 4: To the official indeanment.
Speaker 3: And at that point you may issue a suggestion of incompetency.
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: I might if I'm acclaiming with all of the evidence,
Speaker 5: And I don't know if I'll be acclaiming with all
Speaker 5: of the evidence at that point, all right, And I've
Speaker 5: got to make certain that in fact, I think I
Speaker 5: have enough of a basis.
Speaker 4: But I want to make sure that I have the
Speaker 4: medical basis for that position.
Speaker 1: All right, Clyde Bennett, thank you for coming on and
Speaker 1: getting the word out. The most important thing is let
Speaker 1: the law enforcement community grieve on Thursday and Friday, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. I would anticipate this is
Speaker 1: these are these are vain threats without substance, and because.
Speaker 5: Bread definitely banging threats without substance, nobody's going to do anything.
Speaker 4: Again, Praying for the Hendon family and I'm playing for.
Speaker 1: The Henderson dinerly Clyd Benna, thank you, mich Thanks, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And I'll check in with you in the weeks and
Speaker 1: months ahead. But once again, thank you very much, Clyde,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 4: Bill.
Speaker 3: Right, let's continue with.
Speaker 1: More and if line becomes available five one, three, seven,
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand and uh. At this point, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see what occurs and g R. I not guilty
Speaker 1: of our reason. Insanity is likely to be filed according
Speaker 1: to Clyde Bennett, and perhaps a suggestion of incompetency to
Speaker 1: stay in trial, and we may discuss that later with you.
Speaker 3: But I think you know what that means.
Speaker 1: If I'm if a person cannot counsel with his lawyer
Speaker 1: understand the nature of the charges against him. Then he
Speaker 1: can be found mentally incompetent to even stand trial, in
Speaker 1: which case he's put into a mental hospital to restore
Speaker 1: to sanity, then go to trial. Bill Cunningham News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 6: I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 9: Gosh.
Speaker 6: I guess the main man telling him to get out,
Speaker 6: get out, get out. The doors are and get out.
Speaker 6: The cardinals are talking.
Speaker 1: We have no smoke, but there's a pigeon right near
Speaker 1: the sin doll or something. The seagull or a pigeon
Speaker 1: could be the most famous seagull of smoke company. I
Speaker 1: was waiting too for the white. It's going to be
Speaker 1: black smoked for a while, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 6: I would say so. Somebody said the first they I guess,
Speaker 6: the first time they've ever did this was like in
Speaker 6: twelve something. It took him a thousand days to pick
Speaker 6: a pope. And and they say that's it. Couldn't get it.
Speaker 6: You're you're the first. That's it. They just said, you're in.
Speaker 7: You're in.
Speaker 1: This should take I'm predicting Friday evening. They want to
Speaker 1: get home. They've been up there for about ten days.
Speaker 1: And when you get home. Yeah, so that's like a
Speaker 1: jury out now for two or three days. Come Friday afternoon,
Speaker 1: the jury said, we're going home to Daddy, going home
Speaker 1: to mommy. Let's end this thing right now. I'm going
Speaker 1: with Archbishop Sarah of Africa. Sarah, I like that guy
Speaker 1: from the Philippines. Is he related to Elise? You're going no,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But anything new on Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6: There's a new there's a guy in there, Willie. I
Speaker 6: forget what they said his name was, but he's forty
Speaker 6: five years old. Could be a pope for fifty years.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, if he gets the gig, don't
Speaker 6: look out.
Speaker 3: Don't know. We'll see what happens. That's all I can say.
Speaker 1: Now, what about I'm gonna talk to you about Gordon
Speaker 1: Veterino by not hole baseball coach. Yeah, when the second
Speaker 1: basement of the shortstop is taking a throw from the outfield, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you position your body sideways catch the ball, and you're
Speaker 1: throwing at home.
Speaker 3: You don't have your back to home plate correct and
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 1: As the ball is coming to you, you turn catch
Speaker 1: it and throw or the first basement or the second
Speaker 1: of the shortstop says home home, home, going to.
Speaker 3: Jeff Brantley, the key play in the game.
Speaker 1: McClain had the wrong body position, right, that's on him
Speaker 1: and to no one told him where to throw the ball.
Speaker 6: Plus, don't you think they know how fast Steward fair
Speaker 6: Child is. We do know he was with the Reds.
Speaker 6: I mean you don't you know, like, hey, this guy
Speaker 6: can score from anywhere just like the rest of them.
Speaker 3: Well, McClean can't hit, but at least you can field.
Speaker 6: Well, he's letting his offense suffer his defense. Is that
Speaker 6: it that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Well, whatever it is they have to They've scored one
Speaker 1: one run in Atlanta, right, Uh, yeah, one run and
Speaker 1: Abbot went.
Speaker 3: I mean, Abbot deserved a better fate. So did Chris Saal.
Speaker 6: He had ten strikeouts and Abbot had eight through seven
Speaker 6: it was nil nil.
Speaker 1: I have this text from a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and it's it's so true. That's so many of my
Speaker 1: liberal friends live a certain way and express viewpoints, and
Speaker 1: they certainly talk left but live right. So two or
Speaker 1: three are on the practice to hitting balls Chemic Country Club. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I point out each of them have multiple homes,
Speaker 1: multiple country clubs, and they're liberals. So they talk left
Speaker 1: but live right when it comes time to send their
Speaker 1: kids to public school.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, But nobody talks right and lives left. No,
Speaker 6: no one does that.
Speaker 1: But I have a lot of big time liberals who
Speaker 1: live left, who live right but talk left.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They want to act as if they're liberal, but in raality,
Speaker 1: their whole lives are conservative. In other words, they're hypocrites.
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Speaker 1: Judge tyrone Yates and I are texting back and forth. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's saying, how is the peanut head my beloved dog,
Speaker 1: which I got from a pound. I said, peanut is
Speaker 1: in the arms of God Almighty. Do dogs go to
Speaker 1: heaven segment? Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's where Mimi, too,
Speaker 1: to Emma and Zuomie are. And I also have a
Speaker 1: note here from Jeff Beckham. Veterino made us learn distances
Speaker 1: from home to second one hundred and twenty seven feet
Speaker 1: three and three inches segment.
Speaker 6: They couldn't. They could have thrown the guy out if
Speaker 6: he's in the right position. Jake Freeley did a great
Speaker 6: job of not letting the ball get the.
Speaker 1: Begin right and the throw was good. But you have
Speaker 1: to go sideways, catch the ball sideways and throw. And
Speaker 1: you also you know the play is going to be
Speaker 1: at home? Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 6: I would say, so you know the place, So catch
Speaker 6: the ball and base coach is.
Speaker 1: Going to send him. Maybe if he doesn't, they're going
Speaker 1: to keep playing. Gordon Veterino did not. Coach Matt McClain.
Speaker 6: Reds will be able to snap that four game loosing
Speaker 6: streak tonight, Willie and the game three of their series
Speaker 6: in against the Braves. Hunter Green, it is coming off
Speaker 6: that twelve strikeout effort against Washington. They gotta win tonight,
Speaker 6: hopefully going to be the stopper tonight. Opposed by Grant
Speaker 6: John Holmes. Did you see the Pacers in the Cavaliers
Speaker 6: last night? Yes? Seven hundred ww he's covered six oh
Speaker 6: five Sports talk. Are no carriers inside pitch Kelsey Chevrolet
Speaker 6: Extra Inning show after the game. Now Bengals up A
Speaker 6: waitmit what uh? We got somebody else hurt?
Speaker 3: What about what?
Speaker 6: Noel? Noel v Marte scratched from the lineup last night.
Speaker 6: He's got a pain in his left side. I got
Speaker 6: a pain in my you know what. Jeff Brandley hit
Speaker 6: But he was hit by pitch in Louisville during his
Speaker 6: rehab stint. He didn't tell anybody, but he it was
Speaker 6: the left side of him was bothering him.
Speaker 3: He's playing well, isn't he?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, and that's what he did with the
Speaker 6: well No, that was Cees with a hand now for
Speaker 6: ten days, I don't know. See what he Seev's in
Speaker 6: there tonight it's Andy Mack. They're like fragile China dolls.
Speaker 6: Bengals up. They brought to you by Good Spirits. At
Speaker 6: Party Town thirteen locations in Northern Kentucky, Joe Burrow has arrived. Ohta,
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow is on the fields wear offseason workout.
Speaker 3: What's he wearing his Bengal gear? Shall I say? Who
Speaker 3: is he wearing?
Speaker 1: He's wearing his Bengal gear? Does he have his designer
Speaker 1: with him? No, how about his hair specialists. No is
Speaker 1: he wearing a uniform or a tow to two uniform.
Speaker 1: He is here jersey shorts the whole deal. But headband,
Speaker 1: got a headband? Now got a headband on?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 3: What about Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad you asked that because ESPN reports contract
Speaker 6: talks for a long term deal deal between the Bengals
Speaker 6: and Trey Hendrickson are apparently now at a stalemate.
Speaker 1: Who said that, ESPN? So he wants like thirty some
Speaker 1: mill and the Bengals don't want.
Speaker 6: To pay it. Well, he said, he's got a base
Speaker 6: salary of sixteen million in the final year of the
Speaker 6: deal deal and he is steadfast in his belief he
Speaker 6: deserves a raise.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a they got, they got.
Speaker 6: They picked up some extra because two guys have had
Speaker 6: their have had their contracts cut in half, one of
Speaker 6: them being Geno Gino Geno Stone yesterday. I gotta see
Speaker 6: about that now. Tyler Callahan underwent surgery yesterday on that
Speaker 6: broken left forearm. No activity for him for six to
Speaker 6: eight weeks, but is not, according to the Reds, a
Speaker 6: season ending injury.
Speaker 3: He'll be back.
Speaker 6: He'll be back. Rett Louder on a rehab with the
Speaker 6: acl Reds in Arizona. Three innings last night, two runs,
Speaker 6: four hits, five k's. Looks like mister Louder is headed
Speaker 6: to the Dayton Dragons.
Speaker 3: Where's Kevin Mitchell when you need him?
Speaker 6: Speaking of the Dragons, Wade Miley is going to resume
Speaker 6: his rehab assignment with the Dragons on Saturday. He's coming off,
Speaker 6: as you know, a groin injury.
Speaker 1: He's got a groin problem. Yeah, sometimes I have a
Speaker 1: groin problem. You ever get a groin problem?
Speaker 6: Always? It hurts all the time. I bet ending new
Speaker 6: and Bill b Check Uh no, thank goodness? Is he
Speaker 6: up for? Is he up for? Pope?
Speaker 3: What about Jordan?
Speaker 6: Nothing on her? As far as I know, I want
Speaker 6: to see summer camps. It's been kind of quiet, so
Speaker 6: maybe some days. Well apparently he is.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: I guess the other day I saw where mister Belichick
Speaker 6: uh hired a PR firm to kind of boo boost
Speaker 6: sales of the book. I guess the book is kind
Speaker 6: of right now because who wants to read about him?
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is a legend, but now right he's ruined
Speaker 1: his legacy segment?
Speaker 6: Correct. I don't get it with the with this and
Speaker 6: that and everything else. If I was North Carolina, I say,
Speaker 6: coach on.
Speaker 3: The bio, I'll tell you a million. What about Jordan.
Speaker 6: Says, I guarantee you North Carolina can raise a million
Speaker 6: dollars in about a New York.
Speaker 1: Jaylly News says she got eight million dollars of his
Speaker 1: assets put in her name eight mill. So she's getting
Speaker 1: eight mill. What's he getting?
Speaker 3: Segment? What is he getting?
Speaker 1: I can't say stimulating conversation? I think so very stimulating.
Speaker 1: Do you have hope for the Reds tonight with the
Speaker 1: Hunter Green? Yes, they gotta win tonight.
Speaker 6: Always have hope, William until the AP puts that X
Speaker 6: next to their name, which means they've been eliminated for
Speaker 6: the playoff. Packer week ago, we were rocking and rolling
Speaker 6: four in a row. Now all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 6: like four losses in a row, six of eight, can't score.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the bats have gone silent. I say,
Speaker 6: get the torpedo bats back. Well, whatever it takes, everybody
Speaker 6: gets a torpedo bat. Atlanta ought to be a good
Speaker 6: hitting but that guy, you, I mean, you know the
Speaker 6: Monday night, the sOliver guy was very good. Last night,
Speaker 6: Chris Sale was on his game, so it was Andrew
Speaker 6: Abbott seven scoreless between them. Abbott had eight strikeouts, Sale
Speaker 6: had ten.
Speaker 3: Matt McClain lost the game. Do you agree?
Speaker 6: Oh, they know they botched. They botched that way, right.
Speaker 3: Gordon Veterino taught us better than that.
Speaker 6: Second man, I know at least they had the relay throw.
Speaker 6: He didn't try to, you know, throw it in the
Speaker 6: home plate like Dave Parker and the All Star Games. Second,
Speaker 6: that's all you need. Don't you think they know how
Speaker 6: fast Stewart Fairchild is and.
Speaker 1: He's got to throw it home right, and he waited
Speaker 1: just a little bit. That cost him big time. Yes,
Speaker 1: anything else in sports? I don't think Joe Burrow has
Speaker 1: number nine?
Speaker 6: Is Joe Burrow is back, so everybody cal him down,
Speaker 6: Parson Palmer, Joe Burrow correct, number nine, number nine. Joe
Speaker 6: Burrow is back. Who's he wearing? He's wearing his jersey
Speaker 6: and shorts, new headband on. He's got a black headband. Good.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a designer deal. See what happens segment.
Speaker 6: I don't know what you say, but Burrow is back?
Speaker 6: What about Indian Pakistan? Going at it.
Speaker 3: How about Indiana taking down the Celtics last night?
Speaker 6: Oh that was pretty good.
Speaker 3: How good was that?
Speaker 6: But unbelievable, Andy Mack. I mean, how about this stat.
Speaker 1: A home team right in the NBA with a seven
Speaker 1: point lead and with less than a minute to go,
Speaker 1: less than a minute to go, right, the record is
Speaker 1: three and one nineteen. Well, didn't Reggie Miller do that
Speaker 1: a few years ago in New York?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: But this is unbelievable, Andy Mack. This is against Cleveland,
Speaker 6: best team in the league. They just didn't name the
Speaker 6: coach of the year there and the Cavs are well,
Speaker 6: I mean, home field, home home court advantage is bye bye,
Speaker 6: they got five games.
Speaker 10: Well, England doesn't have a timeout, so they'll have to
Speaker 10: make us a test. Will inbound from the baseline, and
Speaker 10: then the Pacers will try to force a turnover. Failing Matt,
Speaker 10: they would undoubtedly foul. Second one is short and it's
Speaker 10: rebounded by Halliburton. The Pacers have a timeout, will they
Speaker 10: use it? Well they don't, Yes, they do have a timeout.
Speaker 10: Four seconds to go.
Speaker 6: Halliburton four three three ball up top Indiana by one
Speaker 6: one in one ten seconds to go. Inbound Merrill didn't
Speaker 6: get it off. And this Rivals the Milwaukee finish. You
Speaker 6: have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 3: Cleveland right now is in a turmoil. Segment.
Speaker 6: Well, you got the Calves not playing well in the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you got that, Deshaun Watson. You got the shadeer Sanders
Speaker 6: in there. He's number five on the Depth Star. By
Speaker 6: the way, you think he's number five. If he's number five,
Speaker 6: his daddy'll come to town and say, here we are.
Speaker 6: Who's in more trouble. Robert Kraft with the massages or
Speaker 6: Bill Beligiane, I mean with a jet with mister Tucker
Speaker 6: and Baltimore. Well, how about that guy too, Nothing but issues,
Speaker 6: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Segment. Give me out, Give me on the.
Speaker 6: Stooge, Willie and out of a beautiful day here in
Speaker 6: the Tri State and go Reds. Please leave you with
Speaker 6: the immortal words of the stooge Riple.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that one.
Speaker 3: It was the famous African American baseball player in America.
Speaker 6: H hang out from from Medicano and he didn't get
Speaker 6: to play in the Major League Baseball until he was
Speaker 6: forty five years old.
Speaker 3: Because of the black.
Speaker 6: The league pitch.
Speaker 8: Because there's a picture and you and you usually pitcher
Speaker 8: lose their arm when they're thirty five. In general, little
Speaker 8: he pitched to win on this forty seventh birthday, Bishop
Speaker 8: the Press Walkston Locker name was Sachel.
Speaker 3: Page Satul Page It command exs said Satch.
Speaker 6: No one's ever pitched to win at age forty seven?
Speaker 3: How do you feel about pitching to win on your birthday?
Speaker 3: Marchant to complain, you look at me, said boys, that's
Speaker 3: not how I look at age.
Speaker 6: I'm so everybody.
Speaker 3: Boys, that's not how I look at him that I
Speaker 3: look at it this way. How old would you be
Speaker 3: if you didn't know how old you were?
Speaker 4: To thank you?
Speaker 7: Sotips on to.
Speaker 1: That, you say you're sixty five.
Speaker 8: I'm sixty.
Speaker 1: That's Pope Francis going back and forth to Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who gave an interview last night to BBC, oh boy,
Speaker 1: claiming you he is mentally competent, and uh so am
Speaker 1: I He solved the Rubik's cube in about eight seconds.
Speaker 1: He says, you can do I amic pentameter poetry.
Speaker 6: And I ain't got nothing else to do.
Speaker 3: Nothing else.
Speaker 6: I think he's not running things now.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per speech, what plus expenses,
Speaker 1: just saying that's what he's getting your reaction. Let's continue
Speaker 1: with more Natasha Souvez coming up about sex and women's
Speaker 1: prisons on News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham the
Speaker 1: Great American of course, Natasha and Zuvez is a correspondent
Speaker 1: with investigative reporter and anchor with News Nation and I
Speaker 1: noteed online. Congratulations are in order. She received four Emmy nominations.
Speaker 1: One is for the Forever Chemical story, which is in
Speaker 1: the background, but that's a story that's ongoing. Also, there's
Speaker 1: another story out by Natasha Souvez about a rape culture,
Speaker 1: a rape club prison in California, which is probably present
Speaker 1: throughout the nation. But first of all, Natasha Zuvez, welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: congratulations are in order about the Forever Chemicals. We've done
Speaker 1: this story once with you. I've done it about a
Speaker 1: year or two ago with attorneys and just briefly congratulations. Secondly,
Speaker 1: just tell the American people again about the Forever Chemical
Speaker 1: story and why it affects every American today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bill, thank you so much, and it's always great
Speaker 7: to speak with you and I share these congratulations with
Speaker 7: you as well. You really helped us spread the word
Speaker 7: about this story forever chemicals painting our food supply. I
Speaker 7: got so many pieces of mail, so many messages from
Speaker 7: your listeners after they heard our conversation when this first
Speaker 7: aired a few months ago. And it's because it affects
Speaker 7: every single one of us. Ninety seven percent of us
Speaker 7: already have this forever chemical in our blood, and we
Speaker 7: likely have no idea, and this is a forever chemical
Speaker 7: that is linked with cancer and other serious health effects.
Speaker 7: You know, these giant companies three M. DuPont have made
Speaker 7: billions of dollars off of these forever chemicals that are
Speaker 7: in everything from our waterproof jackets, our carpets, our couches,
Speaker 7: our nonstick pans, the takeout boxes that we use at restaurants.
Speaker 7: And now a growing number of farmers are finding forever
Speaker 7: chemical contamination in their soil because essentially they were sold
Speaker 7: a lie, which is that it was their civic duty
Speaker 7: to spread treated human sewage, human wastewater and sludge onto
Speaker 7: their fields as fertilizer, that they were doing their civic
Speaker 7: duty by keeping it out of landfill because this stuff
Speaker 7: was too bad to put into landfill, and so why
Speaker 7: not put it on American soil, And they did. Millions
Speaker 7: of cropland acres affected by this. And these forever chemicals
Speaker 7: are called forever because they do not break down naturally.
Speaker 7: So even a farmer who did this maybe once in
Speaker 7: the seventies is now finding his land, his water, his cattle,
Speaker 7: his cows, all of it is shot through with toxic
Speaker 7: levels of forever chemicals. And forty eight out of fifty
Speaker 7: states are still potentially contaminating their land with fertilizer sludge
Speaker 7: as we speak. It's a big story, Bill, and really
Speaker 7: one that all of us should care about, and this
Speaker 7: is going to change state by state with us putting
Speaker 7: pressure you and saying we don't want this on our
Speaker 7: land anymore, we don't want this on our soil, we
Speaker 7: don't want this for our farmers.
Speaker 1: They're kind of known as p fass. I almost can't
Speaker 1: say all the words, but just if you can google
Speaker 1: forever chemicals, it pops up. And one of the articles
Speaker 1: of faith is bottled water, and of course the water
Speaker 1: out of the faucet. Nobody wants to drink water out
Speaker 1: of the faucet. After you and I have gotten together
Speaker 1: on these issues and the lawyer two years ago. That's
Speaker 1: all I drink is water from the faucet. I will
Speaker 1: not buy bottled water because that's a small part of
Speaker 1: the problem, but it exists. We think we're doing something
Speaker 1: right by getting bottled water, and that in reality we're
Speaker 1: doing something wrong getting bottled water.
Speaker 3: The water out of the faucet is always better.
Speaker 7: Is that fair to say, Oh, it's so hard, Bill?
Speaker 7: I mean, when you drink bottled water, you run into
Speaker 7: issues with the microplastics and the endocrine disruptors, the contaminants
Speaker 7: that are in the bottled water, and you know the
Speaker 7: frebber chemicals that are in that water as well. But
Speaker 7: unfortunately prebber chemicals have become so pervasive through our environment
Speaker 7: because of corporate greed that it's in our it's in
Speaker 7: the tap water as well. And the EPA has just
Speaker 7: started setting at maximum contaminant levels for our tap water.
Speaker 7: But this is a long time coming. It's you really
Speaker 7: need to unfortunately, and I interviewed the EPA about this
Speaker 7: was not impressed with the answer. They say, it basically
Speaker 7: is incumbent upon you, the American individuals who call your
Speaker 7: water district and say, oh, hey, are cancer causing chemicals
Speaker 7: in my water and that is so unfair. And I
Speaker 7: said this to the EPA administrator I interviewed. I was like,
Speaker 7: how can you tell me, like how did the horse
Speaker 7: leave the barn? You know, fifty years ago on this
Speaker 7: and now you're telling me I have to call the
Speaker 7: water district to make sure the water stakes to drink it.
Speaker 7: It it really tear It makes you want to tear
Speaker 7: your hair out, Bill, honestly, it really does.
Speaker 1: I want to get onto the raip club in the
Speaker 1: California presence before before we do that, was there guilty
Speaker 1: knowledge that Dow Chemicals etc.
Speaker 3: Fifty years ago? Did they know or not know what
Speaker 3: they were doing?
Speaker 7: I'm so glad that you asked this question, Bell, because
Speaker 7: part of this investigation was us. And by the way,
Speaker 7: people can still watch this, and I encourage you to
Speaker 7: watch it. It's on YouTube if you search Growing Broke,
Speaker 7: Growing Broke, you can watch the full investigation. You will
Speaker 7: meet the farmers impacted by this, and you will find
Speaker 7: out how you can protect yourself and your family. We
Speaker 7: go through the paper trails that shows that three M.
Speaker 7: DuPont and others new decades upon decades ago that this
Speaker 7: was potentially toxic to people. Then they saw that it
Speaker 7: started to build up in human blood. And Aaron Brockovich,
Speaker 7: the Aaron Brockovich, the one played by Julia robertson that movie,
Speaker 7: the Huge activist, says, this is the shell game. This
Speaker 7: is them covering up. This is lies in deceit the
Speaker 7: years so that they could continue to make billions in profits.
Speaker 7: And by the time the EPA gave them a slap
Speaker 7: on the wrist, Bill, it was a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 7: They had made their money already at the expense of
Speaker 7: all of us. And I get my blood tested on
Speaker 7: camera in this special as well, because Bill, I have
Speaker 7: tried so hard. I do all the things I eat organic,
Speaker 7: and I have siltiered water, and I switched out my
Speaker 7: dental flocks because all of our dental flocks is coded
Speaker 7: in this forever chemical that is the wax on our
Speaker 7: dental flucks. And still I have moderate levels of this
Speaker 7: in my blood, enough to put me at risk for
Speaker 7: breast cancer and all kinds of other issues. Through no
Speaker 7: fault of my own, Bill, and through no fault of
Speaker 7: your own either. This is just living a normal life
Speaker 7: in the United States. And these chemical companies have a
Speaker 7: lot to answer for.
Speaker 1: Have they because at this point there's big judgments mesa
Speaker 1: drop in the bucket. But I would anticipate that they
Speaker 1: still have made billions of dollars. But secondly, here we
Speaker 1: are in May of twenty twenty five, are they still
Speaker 1: doing it?
Speaker 7: Oh, it's so fascinating. So you know, they have made
Speaker 7: various pledges that they will try to I mean three
Speaker 7: M for example, got back to us and said they
Speaker 7: will try to discontinue use of pfast across their portfolio
Speaker 7: by the end of twenty twenty five. They've already made
Speaker 7: their money and this is already in the pipeline, and
Speaker 7: other companies continue to make money from this. But also
Speaker 7: what's really interesting is these things that are touted as
Speaker 7: huge successes. For example, you know in twenty twenty three
Speaker 7: there was a multi billion dollar federal settlement over this
Speaker 7: contamination in our nation's tap water, already making their way
Speaker 7: into our US public drinking water systems. But Patrick McRoy,
Speaker 7: an epidemiologist, told us they are rushing to try to
Speaker 7: settle things before the full scope of the problem is
Speaker 7: even understood. On its face, it sounds like a victory.
Speaker 4: It is not.
Speaker 7: There is a reason these giant companies are settling all
Speaker 7: of these water contamination lawsuits in the tap water because
Speaker 7: we have no idea how large this problem actually is.
Speaker 1: Well, the YouTube growing broke pe fast as is right there.
Speaker 1: And lastly, is there anything you can do if you
Speaker 1: can't protect yourself because of dental flaws, because of things
Speaker 1: that we want water bottles, because of the skillets, the utensils.
Speaker 1: How do we protect ourselves today? Is there a way
Speaker 1: actually protecting yourself?
Speaker 7: It really comes down to so two things. On a
Speaker 7: macro level. Aaron Brockovich and others say, you need to
Speaker 7: every time you have the opportunity to vote for something,
Speaker 7: and you can vote against pludging our farmland because it
Speaker 7: is such a tragedy Bill. And I mean these are
Speaker 7: farmers who are multi generation farmers, right. I mean his
Speaker 7: great great granddaddy cleared the land and now he's going
Speaker 7: to hold a bankruptcy auction because he can't afford to
Speaker 7: hold on to the land. These are the farmers that
Speaker 7: I met who have been destroyed this and we collectively
Speaker 7: have to stand up not only for our own health,
Speaker 7: for our children's health. But that is not enough, but
Speaker 7: for the American farmers who are completely being gutted by this.
Speaker 7: So macro level, anytime you have an opportunity to it
Speaker 7: sounds court canned and corny, but it's true. Call your
Speaker 7: representative say you're not going to stand for this anymore.
Speaker 7: That anytime there is legislation that has to do with
Speaker 7: fledging and continuing to poison our farmland, anytime there has
Speaker 7: anything to do with Forever chemicals in our drinking water,
Speaker 7: that you are going to stand up and make your
Speaker 7: voice heard. On a micro level, there are things you
Speaker 7: can do that can significantly reduce your exposure, and unfortunately
Speaker 7: it comes to these very annoying individual choices. A switching
Speaker 7: out that dental floss is really important, and I am
Speaker 7: not sponsored by any of these people. I have found
Speaker 7: one that works for me. It's called desert Essence, and
Speaker 7: they wax with something else other than Forever chemicals. B
Speaker 7: What you cook in really matters. You want to switch
Speaker 7: if you can to stainless steel, you want to switch
Speaker 7: to cast iron. Anything that says it's a nonstick coating
Speaker 7: you should regard with a lot of suspicion. And then
Speaker 7: you can install and under the SINC filter in your
Speaker 7: home for your main source of drinking water that will
Speaker 7: specifically target forever chemicals. I can't I cannot say Bill
Speaker 7: that it is not ridiculous that it comes down to
Speaker 7: us having to shell out a few hundred dollars to
Speaker 7: prioritize doing this. It's not right. But if this is
Speaker 7: something you care about and you want to make sure
Speaker 7: every time you turn on your tap that you have
Speaker 7: clean water, there are several companies out there. I personally
Speaker 7: use one called Hydraviv. Again, I am zero percent sponsored
Speaker 7: by them, and they did not give me any sort
Speaker 7: of discount on my unit. You enter your zip code
Speaker 7: and they match it with your water district report so
Speaker 7: that they give you a filter that specifically targets maybe
Speaker 7: the casium, maybe the free or chemicals that are high
Speaker 7: in your area. These are the simple things you can
Speaker 7: do to try to reduce your exposure, and it's not fair.
Speaker 7: You should do it, and you should do it, mad Bill,
Speaker 7: because it is through no fault of your own. It
Speaker 7: is entirely through corporate corporate greed, and also federal level negligence.
Speaker 7: Because Aaron Brokovic says, you know, EPA, where have you been?
Speaker 7: Where were you as all of this was happening about Bill.
Speaker 7: I talked about this all day.
Speaker 1: About five minutes remaining. The rape club prison system in California.
Speaker 1: I've read your report on this. It's sickening, it's disgusting,
Speaker 1: hard enough to go to prison, but it passed around
Speaker 1: like like a bottle of wine in prison among the guards.
Speaker 1: Explain the results of your report on the on the
Speaker 1: inside the California rape Club prison.
Speaker 7: It is such an important story and I'm so glad
Speaker 7: it is coming to light in this way. This is
Speaker 7: a prison in California. It's called FCI Dublin, but it
Speaker 7: was better known as the rape Club, and something unprecedented happened.
Speaker 7: We know that sexual abuse happens all across the country
Speaker 7: in our prisons, but the the a sexual abuse was
Speaker 7: so rampant, was so egregious that the US government last
Speaker 7: year actually paid out nearly one hundred and sixteen million
Speaker 7: dollars to more than a hundred of these female inmates
Speaker 7: to settle their lawsuits. I spoke with these inmates. They
Speaker 7: tell me the abuse was everywhere. It was in the cells,
Speaker 7: in the hallways, even the prison church was not safe.
Speaker 7: We speak with one woman in particular, Windy Ponzo, who
Speaker 7: alleges abuse at the hands of the prison chaplain. Four times.
Speaker 7: She says she was at rock bottom. She turned to faith,
Speaker 7: she turned to God, she went to the prison church.
Speaker 7: She was abused by him terribly. Four times. We speak
Speaker 7: with six of these women, and you know their stories
Speaker 7: are going to stay with me forever because when they
Speaker 7: tried to report the abuse, they were silenced. Some of
Speaker 7: them thrown into solitary confinement. We speak with a woman
Speaker 7: who was beaten by a group of guards. She comes
Speaker 7: to the warden. The man at the very top is
Speaker 7: standing taking photos of her naked body. She has literal
Speaker 7: bootprints bruises on her body for months, and they throw
Speaker 7: her into solitary confinement for seven and a half months,
Speaker 7: and they tell her family that she was dead. She
Speaker 7: tells me that her husband passed away thinking that she
Speaker 7: had died in prison, and they told them they couldn't
Speaker 7: find her body. It is so egregious and really, I mean,
Speaker 7: you will hear all of these stories in their own
Speaker 7: words again, They'll stay with me forever. There's another woman
Speaker 7: who was abused by the medical officer. She says she
Speaker 7: has to get a shot every couple weeks for an
Speaker 7: autoimmune disorder. She goes in for her shot and in
Speaker 7: the most graphic details she describes what happened to her.
Speaker 7: You could hear her heartbeat in her voice as she
Speaker 7: was telling this story. And the issue that continues, and
Speaker 7: one of the main reasons they wanted to come forward
Speaker 7: is twofold. One is that eight correctional officers, including the
Speaker 7: chaplain and Scooting, the ward and other guards, a man
Speaker 7: who worked as a cook, have been charged for this.
Speaker 7: They have all either pled guilty or were found guilty
Speaker 7: and sentenced. The very last of them, the most notorious
Speaker 7: of them. And I hope that I can say this
Speaker 7: on your show because this is his name, this is
Speaker 7: his nickname, is Darryl Dirty Dick Smith and he just
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago his trial took place. Women
Speaker 7: came forward, sitting fifteen twenty feet away from him, looking
Speaker 7: him in the eye as he smirked at them as
Speaker 7: they told their story. He maintains his innocence and all
Speaker 7: the information was presented on what he allegedly did, and
Speaker 7: it ended in a mistrial. A jury could not come
Speaker 7: to a consensus, and one of the community activists tells
Speaker 7: me and several of the women tell me. Obviously, this
Speaker 7: is devastating for them. They're going to have to do
Speaker 7: this all again. Anew coming up in August or September,
Speaker 7: that they really struggled with jury selection. That there were
Speaker 7: ten men on the jury two women at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, and that is because they eliminated any
Speaker 7: of the female jurors who had either been sexually assaulted
Speaker 7: themselves or knew or loved anybody who had ever been
Speaker 7: sexually assaulted. And so at the end of the day
Speaker 7: they could only find two, Bill, they could only find
Speaker 7: two women who fit that description, which I mean, was
Speaker 7: this dad statement for our country that that is the.
Speaker 3: Case and Natasha and that particular case. Did those women
Speaker 3: go back to the prison after they testified, they met.
Speaker 7: Me, they went they went with me to the prison
Speaker 7: and walked those grounds with me, and it was just
Speaker 7: the real experience. And you can see that in the investigation.
Speaker 7: It's up on the podcast The Truth of the Matter,
Speaker 7: and you can also watch it on News Nations YouTube page.
Speaker 7: And finally, Bill, I just want to say something that
Speaker 7: we're uncovering. This prison was shut down abruptly at the
Speaker 7: end of last year. It was shut down in a
Speaker 7: move that the judge described as ill conceived. It's on
Speaker 7: its face again, it sounds like a positive thing. This
Speaker 7: prison was obviously shot through with this abuse. It should
Speaker 7: be shut down. But the about six hundred women who
Speaker 7: were there were scattered to more than a dozen facilities
Speaker 7: across the country. A many of their families can no
Speaker 7: longer visit them. But b were uncovering that the retaliation
Speaker 7: is so egregious and rampant that is continuing in these
Speaker 7: new facilities that these women are reporting having food with hell,
Speaker 7: they're reporting being thrown into solitary confinement, and they're reporting
Speaker 7: that the rapes are continuing. When these correctional officers learn
Speaker 7: that they come from FCI Dublin, the rape club prison,
Speaker 7: the rape club prison, because they spoke out, because they
Speaker 7: turned in their colleagues. So we are going to continue
Speaker 7: following the threat of that story. These women tell me
Speaker 7: that FCI Dublin was not a bad apple. Most of
Speaker 7: these women had been passed around to a few prisons,
Speaker 7: so they know they've been to multiple prisons here and
Speaker 7: by the way, all of these women in prison for
Speaker 7: nonviolent crimes, mostly on drug charges, and they say that
Speaker 7: it is not a bad apple. It is happening in
Speaker 7: every single facility across this country. They say that we
Speaker 7: know that we did a crime, we know that we
Speaker 7: deserve to be in here to serve our time, but
Speaker 7: we do not deserve this. We do not deserve assault
Speaker 7: after assault, rape after rape, to be silenced, to have
Speaker 7: our prison sentences extended, to be overincarcerated, if we report this,
Speaker 7: to be thrown in solitary, if we report Bill, It's
Speaker 7: been a real honor to meet these women and tell
Speaker 7: their stories, and I really encourage people to check it out.
Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is the is the report
Speaker 1: news Nation. Natasha Zoovez, you're doing the Lord's work. Congratulations
Speaker 1: on the Emmy nominations. On YouTube, Growing Broke is the
Speaker 1: p fast stories about Forever Chemicals and Natasha, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on again. Let's do it again in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And Natasha a great American. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 7: It's always a pleasure to speak with you. Bill, thank
Speaker 7: you so much for the work that you do.
Speaker 1: God Bushell, let's continue with more Today's tube paste So does.
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Speaker 3: Though it's been a feature the dou Beer.
Speaker 4: Hell, Hell, hello.
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Speaker 1: The motto is speak left, but live right. I know
Speaker 1: many liberals rocket clubs that the segment got me into.
Speaker 1: That indicate whenever I talk to some of these liberals,
Speaker 1: they they speak liberal, but they live right, which is
Speaker 1: they belong to private clubs, send their kids to places
Speaker 1: like Deer Park or Saint X great private schools in
Speaker 1: a sense, and all of a sudden they speak they
Speaker 1: speak left, but they live right.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 6: And I have a sight here.
Speaker 3: You can bet on this. Are you ready for this one?
Speaker 3: On the Pope, the Pope. We got the Pope. I
Speaker 3: got the poly market odds right here, I'm looking at him.
Speaker 6: You can bet. We supposed to speak secretive.
Speaker 3: That's secretive. Are you you have sources inside the Sistine Chapel?
Speaker 9: Yes, but tell me what's going on though, I'm saying so,
Speaker 9: I mean, look, this is just the betting odds, which,
Speaker 9: by the way, the polymarket winners have predicted what the
Speaker 9: Canadian presidential election a couple we're Prime minister a couple
Speaker 9: weeks ago. Obviously the presidential election last year with Donald
Speaker 9: Trump and picked him. So this is a good accurate
Speaker 9: so it's saying that Pietro Perlin is the favorite at
Speaker 9: thirty percent.
Speaker 3: Is the pizza guy.
Speaker 6: I think he's the Secretary of State.
Speaker 9: Antonio Talgay no idea nineteen percent, mateo Zupi ten and
Speaker 9: you been some other guy I can't pronounce his name.
Speaker 6: Nine percent. Well, you can bet it.
Speaker 1: Right now I'm looking still there's no smoke and they're
Speaker 1: five hours, So right now it's like seven forty two.
Speaker 3: In the fact, you need two thirds of the cardinals
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 1: They have an afghand there who's a cardinal that is
Speaker 1: a secret cardinal that no one told about because.
Speaker 3: Of his safety. Could he become a pope if he's
Speaker 3: an a morphidite?
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 9: But we had a guy on you last week that
Speaker 9: talked about the whole He was really good. He had
Speaker 9: talked about the whole ceremony and all that, and I
Speaker 9: asked him the question. I would say, a lot of
Speaker 9: Catholics that I know, and presumably Catholics you know, weren't
Speaker 9: exactly happy with Pope Francis a right, a little more
Speaker 9: a little too liberal, not exactly outspoken enough on Catholic
Speaker 9: dog was like, you know, abortion and Benedict. Right, So
Speaker 9: do you think the next pope will be more yes,
Speaker 9: liberal liberal? I think the next part will be uh well,
Speaker 9: but why would they do that when when Poularly Catholics
Speaker 9: want someone that's a little more prounded in conservatism.
Speaker 6: Well he appointed Francis appointed what one hundred and thirty
Speaker 6: seven cargo.
Speaker 1: One d and thirty stacked the deck something like you
Speaker 1: got two thirds he appointed? Yeah, because they represent his philosophy.
Speaker 1: Stacked the deck, Yes, it did, so it could be
Speaker 1: post friends, Sure a successor. That's pretty smart. Well, of course,
Speaker 1: what kind of like a president appoint in federal judges?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And then those only ones you can pick from? Pick
Speaker 1: from those? So hell, I don't know. But how did
Speaker 1: Harrison City Council. I talked, I texted with you. Do
Speaker 1: you get rid of the ones that wanted advancement in
Speaker 1: too many houses?
Speaker 9: The ones that were in favor of the housing expansion
Speaker 9: that nobody wanted. They did not make the cut top four,
Speaker 9: go on to November. Is the house ones that were
Speaker 9: prominent that.
Speaker 3: It absolutely is. They say you drive by it ever
Speaker 3: twice a day.
Speaker 1: You kind of mador chops in Green Township against public
Speaker 1: housing d then you move Dan, then you move further out,
Speaker 1: and now you make your chops by opposing private housing.
Speaker 3: So you aposos. I oppose private housing that doesn't have
Speaker 3: a plan. There is no plan. It does not fit
Speaker 3: into the fabric of what the community is. If you're
Speaker 3: rich Pece police not rich people. This is a rural bunch.
Speaker 9: Harrison is still rich and his heart is still a
Speaker 9: little bit more of a rural bunch. A little more space,
Speaker 9: houses stacked, you know, two feet from each other. How
Speaker 9: much of that you don't want that?
Speaker 3: Can you spend three hundred thousand in a nice house
Speaker 3: in Harrison?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So look at him, Look at you. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: the pond of rose out there. Though you have your
Speaker 1: sheep and your cows.
Speaker 9: You know, you got the goats like bats. By the way,
Speaker 9: the little rocks, the little So this is a true story.
Speaker 9: So the little rocks. If you saw my Twitter, you
Speaker 9: saw it, say turtle two days ago, find a baby
Speaker 9: box turtle And I mean that sucker was you know,
Speaker 9: about the size of you know, two silver dollars, right,
Speaker 9: and just made their day.
Speaker 3: So of course, like the last five days they got
Speaker 3: in a box.
Speaker 9: I'm like, look, we gotta let the turtle go, and
Speaker 9: he's like, like just scraping with all he's got trying
Speaker 9: to get out of this thing. So just ten minutes ago,
Speaker 9: Kelly calls me and says, if you tell me the truth,
Speaker 9: you won't be in trouble on Oh boy, Oh that
Speaker 9: was a bad opener. She said, did you let the
Speaker 9: turtle go? I said no, I would wouldn't do that
Speaker 9: to you or the kids without telling me. She's like, well,
Speaker 9: the turtle is gone. It's somewhere in the house.
Speaker 6: Oh no, nice.
Speaker 3: So there's a baby box turtle on the loose in
Speaker 3: the Boyman Ponderosa somewhere.
Speaker 9: Oh boy, that's bad. We gotta find it because at
Speaker 9: least it's not a snake, I mean a turtle.
Speaker 6: That's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't speaking about betting. I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine sent this to me. The website
Speaker 1: is Jay and Jay superboost dot com. One to one
Speaker 1: odds that the democracy will end. There'll be no voting
Speaker 1: in America beginning in twenty twenty nine. The maximum money
Speaker 1: you can put up is one million dollars, but it's
Speaker 1: reverse one to one hundred, So if you put up
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and you're right, you get batter.
Speaker 3: What is this group?
Speaker 1: What does this outfit? It's called the J and J
Speaker 1: super Boost. So you put up one hundred engine. Now
Speaker 1: if you do put up a million, you're gonna win,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: So that's saying that in twenty twenty six Trump So
Speaker 3: they're saying there'll be.
Speaker 1: No election, no elections Americas, and he's going to stay
Speaker 1: in office. He's going to declare martial law and Trump
Speaker 1: will be president for life. El Duce, we'll call him
Speaker 1: El Duce.
Speaker 3: Now that's the easiest bet era. Of course we'll be voting.
Speaker 9: But now I know, I mean I I don't bet
Speaker 9: a lot, but if I do, I bet a little
Speaker 9: to win a lot, not a lot to win a little.
Speaker 3: And that makes sense? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: No voting normally you bet a little to win a lot.
Speaker 1: Here you bet a lot to win a little. Don't
Speaker 1: make any sense, Like man, a lot of stuff doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense.
Speaker 6: And the leader of the.
Speaker 3: Pope is the pizza guy. The first of four or
Speaker 3: five letters.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Pietro Perilyn is the leader. At thirty percent,
Speaker 9: say he's the pizza guy. You know that's uh, Pierre
Speaker 9: Baptista Pizza Baha Philippines.
Speaker 1: I can't say, can't say, but it's this insight from
Speaker 1: the Sistine Chapel itself.
Speaker 3: Is that what I was Wahington to. Dam Fox News
Speaker 3: they had a little bit. They had cameras in that
Speaker 3: was pretty cool.
Speaker 9: You need two thirds of all those cardinals to agree,
Speaker 9: and if they don't agree, then they put put the
Speaker 9: little ballance in the in the fire and the blacks
Speaker 9: was the.
Speaker 1: Most famous chimney in America right there on the bottom right.
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna, you know who they're gonna pick,
Speaker 6: Anthony Quinn the shoes of the Fishers. Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 6: The Russian?
Speaker 1: How about the Afghan the guys, that's an amorphodite. Did
Speaker 1: you see the movie The Conclave?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 3: I hear it is you're ready, turtle in the.
Speaker 1: House unexpectedly and they do all this get together, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got the big deal going on. And here comes
Speaker 1: a meek looking guy with his paper saying he's a
Speaker 1: cardinal and from the high from Kabol, Afghanistan, and the
Speaker 1: other cardinals said what and somehow the Secretary State looking
Speaker 1: some record and damn the Pope just appointed this guy
Speaker 1: from Afghanistan and kept it secret because if they made
Speaker 1: it public, he'd be killed. So he presents the papers
Speaker 1: they let him in. Now the problem is the papers.
Speaker 1: He had the papers, but he's an amorphodite. And what
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying? Am I saying that?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: You are had exterior male stuff and interior female stuff.
Speaker 3: Talk about yes, you know, a very very very very
Speaker 3: rare condition.
Speaker 1: He wanted to make it public before he said I
Speaker 1: accept Now, well that happened, do you think no?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Think so?
Speaker 1: Also, the Sistine Chapel blew up, the terrors blew up
Speaker 1: the chapel, and as that happened, the wind of the
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit came down. That's when a light shone on
Speaker 1: the on the cardinal cable from Afghanistan. Everyone said, he's
Speaker 1: the guy. Now could that happen with that? Would that
Speaker 1: be unusual?
Speaker 3: Would you say? The Sistine Chapel blew up? Yes, it did.
Speaker 3: In the movie, you were worried. I was worried.
Speaker 6: There's the chimney.
Speaker 3: Nothing is happening watching it and I'm thinking, this is
Speaker 3: a movie. This is It's hilarious.
Speaker 9: You can get betting nods on who will be the
Speaker 9: next pope and polymarket ain't wrong most of the time.
Speaker 1: You can bet on theracy ends, but it's reverse. You
Speaker 1: put put up ten thousand to win one hundred.
Speaker 3: Dollars, that's that's not smart. That's not smart. Democrat might
Speaker 3: do that, though, but.
Speaker 9: There's people that think that there will be no elections
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty nine, and they'll probably take that bet.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: You kind of speak liberal, but you live a conservative,
Speaker 1: and these people will make the bet.
Speaker 3: They believe it.
Speaker 9: Liberals is grounded in ideas instead of hard facts. So
Speaker 9: what you think, So you want to you want to
Speaker 9: believe that you can have a society and not have
Speaker 9: police and everyone will just get along. But in the reality,
Speaker 9: in the real world, you actually need someone to keep order.
Speaker 9: You like to think you can just have an open
Speaker 9: border and and none of the bad guys will come
Speaker 9: over the bad guys.
Speaker 6: Will stay over there and everything.
Speaker 3: But in the rural gallery.
Speaker 9: So yeah, you can think, and it'd be boy, it'd
Speaker 9: be just fantastic of it that worked out, which is
Speaker 9: what most of them think. But they also know through
Speaker 9: experience that and how it worked out. So I'm gonna
Speaker 9: tell Mike your kids to go to this disastrous public school. Meanwhile,
Speaker 9: my kids is gonna go to this thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 9: year elementary school.
Speaker 1: Keep the poor kids locked in terrible schools. I'm sending
Speaker 1: my coat to sant Ursula or somehow.
Speaker 9: You can, you know, you know, vote and talk and
Speaker 9: be about something that you don't actually stand for.
Speaker 6: Yeah does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not at all? No, not all.
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Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 6: The Reds have placed in field on Novelli novel NOELV.
Speaker 6: Marte on the ten day injured list with a left
Speaker 6: oblique strain.
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like Stevenson.
Speaker 6: They have recalled outfielder Reese Hines from TRIPA A Louisville,
Speaker 6: and mister Hines has hit like three home runs and
Speaker 6: three days for the bats.
Speaker 3: When are you gonna come in here?
Speaker 9: Say one day and say the resident acquired sho hey
Speaker 9: Otani in a three person trade or something.
Speaker 6: You know, twenty twenty nine, when the world comes to
Speaker 6: an end. Marte was scratched for the light up last
Speaker 6: night because of pain in his left side.
Speaker 3: How do you get the pain?
Speaker 6: Well, he was hit by a pitch apparently in Louisville
Speaker 6: and didn't tell anybody. He hooked up with Robert Craft
Speaker 6: and went to a massage. Parker coverage tonight six. Now
Speaker 6: he has recovered from that. I got to bring that
Speaker 6: stuff up. He recovered from the sash part.
Speaker 3: No one talks about that anything.
Speaker 9: You said yesterday that Bill Belichick will never recovering from
Speaker 9: the short cover. But Robert Kraft, Hasson, Michael Jackson had
Speaker 9: a few or Michael Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, excuse me,
Speaker 9: had a few transgressions.
Speaker 6: He bounced back, Yeah, ignorant uh. Game three of the
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Speaker 6: arrived this morning out on the field for off season workouts.
Speaker 3: Who is he dressed with?
Speaker 6: What is he wearing? Calm down? Who is he had.
Speaker 3: In the morning?
Speaker 6: He had his jersey on, shorts, shoes and a head band.
Speaker 3: Where's the hairstylist?
Speaker 6: I don't know. His hair was kind of messed up
Speaker 6: from the met gown burrows there. Jamar Chase his practice
Speaker 6: a second day practicing. Yes, look he got the big contract. Yes,
Speaker 6: still showed up timp of the cap there Henderson. But
Speaker 6: but ESPN Jeremy Jeremy. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports, Uh, there's
Speaker 6: no update on the Hendrickson contract situation. And apparently the
Speaker 6: two sides all right, the stalemate not good?
Speaker 3: What do we do now?
Speaker 4: Not good?
Speaker 9: And we're putting a lot a lot of pressure on
Speaker 9: al Golden here, you know, some developmental type draft picks
Speaker 9: from the roster that's not full of stars and possibly
Speaker 9: the lone star you have and not bringing him back.
Speaker 3: You're putting a lot of faith in him that he
Speaker 3: can turn this thing around. Like the Magic Man.
Speaker 1: Last year. Magic Man, he moves his hands around all
Speaker 1: of a sudden something happens, kind of like Clyde Bennett
Speaker 1: had him on a couple hours ago.
Speaker 3: Your bunt, your buddy clide Bennett? What he say a lot?
Speaker 3: I said to him, you're not.
Speaker 1: Really going to contend your client did not commit this
Speaker 1: crime right when I can see as client committed it.
Speaker 1: I said, well, who they pull out car?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did they?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did they pulled him hitting it out of the car?
Speaker 1: I think, didn't you go to the hospital? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Today they weren't contending that. They were saying he was,
Speaker 3: you know, reasonable.
Speaker 9: Insanity kind of he's not willing to get I'm not
Speaker 9: a lawyer, but like, if you're like passionately upset about
Speaker 9: something that is not that is not qualified as somebody blood.
Speaker 9: I don't think so, by the letter of the walls.
Speaker 9: Not a magic man.
Speaker 3: You can do some magic tricks and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden things happen as well.
Speaker 6: Good luck.
Speaker 1: I saw the magic Man. He's doing some tricks with
Speaker 1: the Rubi's cube. He can solve a Rubik's cube in
Speaker 1: nine seconds. The Magic Man, he sings songs and everything.
Speaker 3: Magic Man. Bring him in, Bring him got him in,
Speaker 3: Break him in twenty one? Bring big what's on the
Speaker 3: Big Show today? If anything?
Speaker 6: Finding a turtle at this time, I got to find
Speaker 6: turtle Runway is gonna call Critter get her rather the gate.
Speaker 3: We have a pretty good story.
Speaker 9: A woman, you know, kind of went down the path
Speaker 9: of substance abuse and whatnot found help?
Speaker 3: Is this the lawyer?
Speaker 9: Yes, that's very, very good story that they've had her
Speaker 9: at four and you're coming on five. What are we
Speaker 9: going to talk about Jordan Hudson? I sim I have
Speaker 9: other topics, but you're gonna somehow talk about Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 3: Robert, I'm gonna order that book.
Speaker 6: By the way, I'm gonna order.
Speaker 3: His book, the order Winning, Yeah, winning? What you wanting
Speaker 3: a lot of things right now? I bet segment give
Speaker 3: me out of the Seuzere Fort.
Speaker 6: Willie in honor of where's the Turtle and Rocky's House
Speaker 6: and Jordan Hudson. We leave she's there too, Yes, we
Speaker 6: leave you with the immortal words of the Stein Report,
Speaker 6: Live action.
Speaker 3: Turtle Man, live action.
Speaker 6: There you go his number. I need a calling, that's right,
Speaker 6: call the Turtle Man.
Speaker 3: I got his number to Harrison. He likes snapping turtles.
Speaker 3: Didn't you get in a fight with a chainsaw a
Speaker 3: couple years ago and he lost He lost his teeth,
Speaker 3: so you fight with a chainsaw, you hardly have a win.
Speaker 3: We lose on seven hundred w l