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<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in the tri State. Of course, rets baseball kicks off

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<v Speaker 1>about six oh five tonight. Last night's game was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna work with Mount McLain on relaying throws from

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<v Speaker 1>right field or how to properly do it. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>look good. They've scored one run and I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the past two games. And we'll see what happens tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope springs eternal, but we have a lot more important

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<v Speaker 1>things to be concerned with. On Thursday and Friday are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the funeral processions and the proceedings for

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<v Speaker 1>murder chief murdered Deputy Larry Henderson Hamley County Sheriff's Department.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's lots of information out there on various websites,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought I would check in this afternoon with

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, who spent most of her adult life

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<v Speaker 1>in and around the Hamley County Sheriff's Department, beginning as

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<v Speaker 1>a corrections officer in the old Workhouse. Now she's the

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<v Speaker 1>elected Sheriff of Hamlety County, been there about five years

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<v Speaker 1>and Sheriff McGuffey. Welcome again the Bill Cunningham Show. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, can you address yourself on this Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon to the morale and to the feelings of the

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<v Speaker 1>deputy sheriffs. You have about seven eight hundred deputy sheriffs

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<v Speaker 1>in Hamley County and just in general, how's the mental

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<v Speaker 1>outlook of your staff?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and thank you, Bill, And yes, we are nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred strong. Our Sheriff's department is nine hundred strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that the morale is very somber.

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<v Speaker 2>People are deputies, men and women, our service deputies. We're

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<v Speaker 2>all very very sad, and we're more than said, we're heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 2>We're absolutely devastated. And really I have to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>I stood with one hundred deputies at the hospital on

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<v Speaker 2>the day that Larry died and it was surreal. It

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<v Speaker 2>just is very surreal for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as continuing. Unlike many agencies, maybe at four

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock you go home, in the Sheriff's department, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>go home. It's twenty four to seven Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>July fourth. It never stops. And Larry Henderson was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>When I look at his record with you on the

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<v Speaker 1>dive team, he was on the bomb squad, He was

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<v Speaker 1>a marine, He was part of SWAT, He was a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher and educator. He touched of the nine hundred deputy

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<v Speaker 1>sheriffs you have probably he touched the lives of the

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<v Speaker 1>great majority over thirty three years. One cannot imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three year veteran, a marine, diving, detecting bombs, disarming bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>part of a SWAT team, and he retires with the

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<v Speaker 1>thanks of a grateful agencies only four months ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you have the occasion of setting up with his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie at the funeral. How well did you know Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson yourself and his impact on the agency while he

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<v Speaker 1>during the living years.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew Larry Henderson very well. In fact, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>him as a young recruit. I was a lieutenant as

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<v Speaker 2>a trainer when Larry entered our agency, and he began

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<v Speaker 2>in June of nineteen ninety one, and I was one

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<v Speaker 2>of his trainers. I recognized in him right away that

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<v Speaker 2>he had a talent for expression, he had a talent

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<v Speaker 2>for presentation, and we immediately began to push him into

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<v Speaker 2>that arena of which he took very well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Larry was well known in this agency. There were times

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<v Speaker 2>when I was not involved in his career directly, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you hundreds of people were. And just

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<v Speaker 2>as you ticked off the number of special units that

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<v Speaker 2>Larry was involved in, there are so many more things

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<v Speaker 2>that he did as a first line officer in that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in that wake of danger every day all day.

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<v Speaker 2>And Larry didn't want to be promoted. That wasn't his goal.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to be on that first line because he

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<v Speaker 2>had skills to that to those endeavors.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Tony Pike, who is the quarterback for you

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<v Speaker 1>see the All American remembers, Larry Henderson had a special

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<v Speaker 1>desire to be around the UC athletes, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>football or basketball. That he traveled to the bowl games,

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<v Speaker 1>he was with them, and I know Tony Pike and

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<v Speaker 1>others here that worked with him. Moeger that said, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that guy, and he was just a wonderful professional

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<v Speaker 1>being around. Do you know why he had such affinity

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<v Speaker 1>for the University of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, I don't know, Bill, I couldn't assume.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the people of University of Cincinnati I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a bear Cat as well. That's a very attractive school

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<v Speaker 2>with professional people, professional ball teams, and I know that

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<v Speaker 2>they treated Larry very well, and Larry was really dedicated,

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<v Speaker 2>very dedicated to making sure that that football team and

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<v Speaker 2>any other sports were well managed and security was maintained.

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<v Speaker 1>And serff, can you talk about detail work? But as

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<v Speaker 1>many people don't understand, your retire you go home and

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<v Speaker 1>you may play a little golf, pick up other little

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<v Speaker 1>things to do. But that wasn't Larry Henderson. How does

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<v Speaker 1>one serve thirty three years and then still wear the

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<v Speaker 1>uniform and do detail work?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Larry, Larry had a calling to this uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>He was called to this uniform. That's the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>why you continue to stay in this profession after you've retired.

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<v Speaker 2>And Larry did stay. He stayed because we had a

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<v Speaker 2>need and he knew that we had a need for

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<v Speaker 2>deputies to work off due the events, important events, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was very important to Larry to continue to give

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<v Speaker 2>service to his community. As I said, it was in

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<v Speaker 2>his blood and I'd like people to know this. Larry

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<v Speaker 2>was awarded Larry was awarded our Medal of Honor and

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<v Speaker 2>that's called the Medal of Valor for the Hamlet Kuinty

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's Office in nineteen in nineteen after nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>Larry was on patrol in two thousand and one and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a woman being held hostage. Larry was the

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<v Speaker 2>first responder. The man it was domestic shot. He shot

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<v Speaker 2>the woman just as Larry was entering the door, and

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<v Speaker 2>Larry confronted the man and the man fled to the

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<v Speaker 2>second floor. Larry maintained his position trying to save the

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<v Speaker 2>woman's life who was literally shot in front of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and also maintained that the subjects stayed on that second floor.

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<v Speaker 2>What a dangerous situation that was until we could get

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<v Speaker 2>people there. So he worked to save that woman's life

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<v Speaker 2>and held that position and you know, in danger by

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<v Speaker 2>himself with an armed assailant just up the steps from him.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you that those are things that men

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<v Speaker 2>and women do, and that's what Larry did because he

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<v Speaker 2>has courage and that's something I want the public to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff McGuffey, can you tell the American people as far

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<v Speaker 1>as taking the murderer or Rodney Hinton thirty eight years

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<v Speaker 1>old away from Hambley County to Claremont County. Why was

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<v Speaker 1>that done?

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<v Speaker 2>That was done because in law enforcement we learn that

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what crime you have committed, whatever crime you

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<v Speaker 2>are charged with, it is important that we maintain your

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<v Speaker 2>custody and safety. And I know that things are very

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<v Speaker 2>very emotional inside this department with every officer who works here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't want is We don't want someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated who may try to bait our officers into bad behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't want to take that chance. We want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that that individual is handled in a

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<v Speaker 2>professional way, that that person cannot put themselves in a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where they could potentially bait deputies or even say

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<v Speaker 2>something happened if it didn't, or you know, suffer any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of backlash within the jail community. So we felt

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<v Speaker 2>it very prudent to send him over to Claremont County.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, yesterday tyrone Yates, who I judge, tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>Yates or I practiced law with for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>from the University of Taledo Law School as I went

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<v Speaker 1>there too, I gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Him no bond.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as Laurie in the family, how I understand

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<v Speaker 1>from off the air you've spent some time with Laurie Henderson,

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<v Speaker 1>his lovely wife of many decades. I understand he had

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<v Speaker 1>something like four or five children, many grandchildren. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a foster parent, and I can only imagine that when

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<v Speaker 1>Larry retired about four or five months ago, probably Laurie,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, sighed a sigh of relief because I was thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be detecting bombs and disarming bombs

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<v Speaker 1>or diving in the Ohio River. He's not in swat

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<v Speaker 1>He's now retired, with the thanks of a grateful department.

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<v Speaker 1>How is the family taking this tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can tell you Bill, it was shocking. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just shocking, and the grief to watch the family members,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife and his children come to the hospital as

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<v Speaker 2>they were getting the news that he was in such

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<v Speaker 2>dire condition that he may not survive. And as you

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<v Speaker 2>might imagine, and anyone who's lost a loved one, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in tragic circumstances, know that it's just hard to think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to know, you know, even where you're standing

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<v Speaker 2>one moment to the other, and that was Laurie and

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<v Speaker 2>his children. You know, they spent hours saying goodbye to Larry.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm certain that they're still absorbing just the shock

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<v Speaker 2>of the tragedy that's occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the proceedings Thursday and Fridays on

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<v Speaker 1>various websites. I want to get in all those particular

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<v Speaker 1>But I noticed at the news conference you conducted with

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Thiji, this was particularly emotional for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Oh, it most certainly was because you know, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew Larry. I knew Larry personally, and so many

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<v Speaker 2>men and women in this agency had very very close

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<v Speaker 2>friendships with Larry. And you know when I saw him

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<v Speaker 2>on the street, I mean, there's a camaraderie there, and

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<v Speaker 2>your heart feels it before your head even recognizes that

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<v Speaker 2>you met someone you know, and that's who Larry is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to tell you that with all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that Larry did, the dive team where you're down

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<v Speaker 2>there in that dark water and you can't even see

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<v Speaker 2>your hand in front of your face, the bomb squad,

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI Task Force, you know, courage doesn't just stop

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<v Speaker 2>and end with one event. Courage is the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>feel fear and simply push past it. And when our

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<v Speaker 2>officers and deputies served their exemplary careers, that is a

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<v Speaker 2>skill and a quality that cannot be taught, that is born,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is who Larry.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, Sheriff McGuffey.

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<v Speaker 1>You also indicated the other day at the news conference

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<v Speaker 1>that whether it was Sunny Kim who was murdered in

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<v Speaker 1>Madisonville or Larry Henderson who was murdered near the UC campus,

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<v Speaker 1>that the earthly remains are never left alone until they're buried.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain why that's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sir, it's a tradition. It is a brother and

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<v Speaker 2>sisterhood in law enforcement. And we have a fallen officer,

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<v Speaker 2>that officer's casket will be guarded twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means the honor Guard, in full Honor Guard uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>One man will stand for a period a long period

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and then another man or woman will step

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<v Speaker 2>up and take his place or her place, and they

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<v Speaker 2>will stand there for hours, and then another man will

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<v Speaker 2>step up and stand for hours. And that is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>around the clock. You know, when men and women give

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<v Speaker 2>their lives to this career and they raised the oath,

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<v Speaker 2>we all raise the oath with them, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>never to be alone. They will never stand alone. We

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<v Speaker 2>will always stand with them. And that is what that symbolizes.

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Henderson, We'll be buried on Friday. I'm sure you're aware.

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<v Speaker 1>The social media brings out sometimes the worst in people,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's certain threats being issued about the number of

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<v Speaker 1>police coming. I understand from your chief deputy that there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be agencies all over the country coming here,

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<v Speaker 1>but especially in the tri state Kentucky, Inn and Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, certainly, Bill, we live in reality. The

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<v Speaker 2>to prepare for worst case scenario, worse environments. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely prepared. We're one hundred percent prepared. We're monitoring those things,

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<v Speaker 2>We're monitoring faate Book as we do daily to keep

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<v Speaker 2>And my message to the community is this, we are mourning.

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<v Speaker 2>We all should be mourning, and we're mourning the tragic events,

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<v Speaker 2>the tragic death of our officer our deputy who was

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<v Speaker 2>people of color are hurting. But listen, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>situation of mourning for all of us, whoever you mourn,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are mourning Larry Henderson, and I am asking

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<v Speaker 2>to do this and to give Larry, who deserves it

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<v Speaker 2>so much. He saves lives, he has saved lives, Allow

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<v Speaker 2>us to mourn, Allow us to mourn in our margin,

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<v Speaker 2>and I promise you that we will all work together

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, I know there's threats against law enforcement on social

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<v Speaker 1>media that you're monitoring by the way, that could arise

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<v Speaker 1>to the level of a crime. And if someone makes

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<v Speaker 1>that is not protected, and someone should be careful about

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to do harm to law enforcement, especially during the

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<v Speaker 1>funeral of Larry Henderson. Lastly, I've received many indications of

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<v Speaker 1>how Americans can help with defraying some of the financial

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<v Speaker 1>expenses that the Henderson family will have that are not

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<v Speaker 1>covered by the state or by the county. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell the American people about the Shield and the work

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, so. The Shield is an organization that provides

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<v Speaker 2>for officers who are fallen in the lad line of duty.

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<v Speaker 2>And what the Shield does is provide financial assistance, emotional assistance,

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<v Speaker 2>pure support, counseling. And you know, oftentimes there are children involved,

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<v Speaker 2>and provides for the family long beyond the funeral services

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<v Speaker 2>and the goodbye and the sendoffs. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we can all appreciate what that's like

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<v Speaker 2>in grief and the Shield. If you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>there who do very unscrupulous things, awful things. But if

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<v Speaker 2>website and it's the shield S H I E. L.

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<v Speaker 2>where your donation will be safe and that's where you

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<v Speaker 2>know that whatever you send will get to the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>And if someone has these fictitious sights up, they should

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<v Speaker 1>be aware that that's a crime. It's called it's called fraud,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wire fraud, it's illegal, and hopefully they will be

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<v Speaker 1>held to account. I had to sit up now and

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<v Speaker 1>it has a little button that says donate the Shield

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<v Speaker 1>as an organization seeking to serve the families of officers

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<v Speaker 1>critically injured or killed in the line of duty within

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<v Speaker 1>the Ohio counties of Hamilton and some others. And once

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<v Speaker 1>in Sheriff McGuffey, and I know you're going to stay strong.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the next few days will be extremely difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And may you and yours be left with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of positive memories about Larry Henderson and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he received the Medal of Valor for his activities some

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four years ago. And he served this nation, served

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<v Speaker 1>this county well as a marine that's aid Deputy Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gave his life so we can live free.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sheriff McGuffey, once again, thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill cunning m Show, and good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill, and thank you to all people in the

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<v Speaker 2>community who are supporting us. Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's continue with more. The Shield Ohio dot

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<v Speaker 1>com is the official website. I know the federal authorities

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<v Speaker 1>money fraudulently will be held to account for that criminal misbehavior.

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<v Speaker 1>News coming up next at your home of the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>kicking off tonight about six oh five on news radio

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WW. But for the grace of God, there

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<v Speaker 1>goes I. I can imagine there's few thousand law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>officials from the FBI to US Marshall Service, to corrections officers,

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<v Speaker 1>or Claremont County, that are thinking now. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>grace of God, there goes Eye in that casket. Every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then you have a Sunny Kim situation, or

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<v Speaker 1>you have a situation like Larry Anderson in which an

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<v Speaker 1>individual purposely seeks to kill a police officer because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do. And in one case, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in cases, Sonny Kim, the perpetrator was killed by

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<v Speaker 1>a Cincinnati police who wanted to kill a cop. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason he wanted to kill a cop is because

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend, that is, the murderer, was going to charge

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<v Speaker 1>him with rape. And I think his name was Hummons,

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<v Speaker 1>if I have a good memory. Hummons did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to one one called a lower cop, any cop to

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<v Speaker 1>as the mother begins talking to Officer Sonny Kim. Sonny

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<v Speaker 1>Kim did not appreciate the danger he was in because

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<v Speaker 1>first person he encountered was the mother of the murderer,

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<v Speaker 1>who by the way, had nothing to do with the murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbeknownst to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind her was her son with a gun, and he

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<v Speaker 1>many shots at Sonny Kim, and one hit a seam

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<v Speaker 1>and killed one of the best police officers Cincinnati ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>And his name was Sonny Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I told you, when you go, I go

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<v Speaker 1>to Gate to Heaven Cemetery, I go to his grave

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<v Speaker 1>and say a prayer thanks for the twenty seven years

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<v Speaker 1>of service he provided to the people of Cincinnati. Most

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<v Speaker 1>shootings of police officers do not involve a targeting of

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<v Speaker 1>cops for murder. Most of the shootings involved arm robberies,

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<v Speaker 1>going amiss or something that character In Sonny Kim's case,

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<v Speaker 1>this murderer, this cold blooded murderer, looked to kill as

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<v Speaker 1>many cops as possible. Just the first one was Sonny Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this case, Rodney Hinton Junior wanted to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a police officer. And you've heard over the last few

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<v Speaker 1>the family of Ryan Hinton, who was killed because of

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<v Speaker 1>no indication according to Michael Wright, who was present the

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<v Speaker 1>by his behavior was to murder a police officer a

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<v Speaker 1>cowardly way, in cold blood and target him. Yesterday, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a no bond hearing in front of Judge tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>Yates and Cincinnati police had given some evidence about what occurred,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police detective indicated that Rodney Hinton, thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old Rodney Hinting kind of positioned his car, waited

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit until traffic cleared, he crossed against lanes

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<v Speaker 1>of traffic and there operating the traffic control system for

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<v Speaker 1>that intersection of Brendan Woods and mL King was a

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<v Speaker 1>deputy sheriff of Larry Henderson. Wrong place, wrong time, But

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been any cop. I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if he ran into a cop in Sharonville or won

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<v Speaker 1>in Boone County, or an FBI agent with a uniform

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<v Speaker 1>mom he would have killed them too. He just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kill a cop. Coming up in about thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>well joining you and I. Clyde Bennett is the attorney

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<v Speaker 1>for Rodney Hinton. He also is the attorney for that

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<v Speaker 1>Forest Park murder that calls such a fracas in Room

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<v Speaker 1>May yesterday. So he made a suggestion of insanity on

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<v Speaker 1>the record, and as you know, if you've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>defense might be insanity or some sort of diminished capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>because it appears that factually Rodney Hinton Junior committed the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>They dragged his body out of the car and he

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<v Speaker 1>and as I understand it, there were no skid marks,

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<v Speaker 1>And as I understand it, the police have the car

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<v Speaker 1>which could have been a defense, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>determine quite quickly that there was nothing mechanically wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>sending him a fly in. And as I understand from

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<v Speaker 1>see that. So Clyde Bennett's options an affirmative defense means

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<v Speaker 1>that my client committed the crime, but he's not legally

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion he's going to come up to is whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not he seemed to indicate it yesterday that being Clyde

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<v Speaker 1>Bennett as client had mental problems, and if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>he could file a suggestion of insanity next week, which

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<v Speaker 1>would require that Rodney Hinton subject himself to psychological slash

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<v Speaker 1>No one has brought to trial if they're suffering some

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<v Speaker 3>So Clyde Bennett, in a sense, would have to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a suggestion of insanity to indicate that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to my client. He doesn't understand what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand where he is presently, doesn't understand he's soon

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't understand. And if that's the case, there'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a psychiatrist for the state and for the defense

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<v Speaker 1>to quiz Rodney Hinton Junior as to whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>he understands what's going on. And that's a judicial determination.

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<v Speaker 1>I yes, So I want to ask Clyde Bennett if

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<v Speaker 1>reason of insanity, he's the only defense he has. Self defense,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I don't think apply when someone kills someone and

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<v Speaker 1>excused for committing that crime, which is I think the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is going to be charged under twenty nine oh

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<v Speaker 1>one point one fourteen, and that law says that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty of our reason of insanity if you can

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<v Speaker 1>prove that you didn't know, as a result of a

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<v Speaker 1>severe mental disease or defect, the wrongfulness of your actions.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that raiment n g r I, the judge

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<v Speaker 1>formally reached the charge and obviously if a severe mental

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<v Speaker 1>illness is present, what counts as a mental disease would

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<v Speaker 1>effect considers strong enough. There's several categories, most of which

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<v Speaker 1>you are familiar with. Paranoid, schizophrenic delusion, maybe UH fail

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize reality, something of that character. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens down the road. But we do know Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>and Friday it's going to be proceedings to properly UH

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<v Speaker 1>send the body of Larry Henderson into the ground, as

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<v Speaker 1>his soul is in heaven awaiting, and someone if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a heaven, if there's a heaven above and Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the right hand of the Father, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that he welcome in glory the soul of Deputy Sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Henderson because he gave his life for his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and his family. No greater love than a man has

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<v Speaker 1>or a woman to give their life for their friends,

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<v Speaker 1>for the family, and for their country.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'll be interesting to see after one o'clock today

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<v Speaker 1>what Clyde Bennett has to say. And he's considered to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the eminent criminal offense attorneys in the Tri

446
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 1>State right now, and the only defense he has would

447
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<v Speaker 1>be insanity, which he kind of set it up yesterday

448
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 1>now to contradict the insanity you might have. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to know his treatment history is Rodney Hinton been treated

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<v Speaker 1>for psychiatric conditions. He's thirty eight years old. Insanity could

451
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<v Speaker 1>come on later in life, but normally there's precursors ahead

452
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<v Speaker 1>of time. And to demonstrate that insanity, you put on

453
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<v Speaker 1>treating physicians to indicate the degree of the delusion or paranoi,

454
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<v Speaker 1>its schizophrenia. With the effective components that exist in his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>that he could not know the differences between right and wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>could not conform his behavior to the dictates of the law,

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<v Speaker 1>and did this in his mind because he thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was somehow justified to kill a cop, any cop, because

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<v Speaker 1>his son, who was in possession of a nine millimeter

460
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<v Speaker 1>with an extended meg was attempting or trying to attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to elude capture, and every reason to believe he would

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<v Speaker 1>have used the gun, otherwise he wouldn't have taken it.

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<v Speaker 1>He had three or four occasions Ranney Hinton did at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of eighteen not to do what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, when he's in the car, the stolen car

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<v Speaker 1>from Edgewood, Kentucky. When the police arrived on the scene

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<v Speaker 1>with their sirens of blaring and the lights going. He

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<v Speaker 1>could have simply got out of the car, put his

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<v Speaker 1>hands up and within six or eight hours he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ryan Hinton would be alive and Larry Henderson would

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<v Speaker 3>be alive. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Hinton decided not to do that. He made a

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<v Speaker 1>conscious decision to get out of the car, reaching back

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<v Speaker 1>into the car and grabbing a nine millimeter by the

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<v Speaker 1>way with ammo in the chamber. Someone had cocked it

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<v Speaker 1>and put the put a slug in the bullet. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a bullet in the chamber with the safety off,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that point he made a decision to use

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<v Speaker 1>that gun. Why would you take the gun if you

481
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<v Speaker 1>weren't planning on using it just for the hell of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Having a gun makes it more difficult to run, So

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<v Speaker 1>his choice was not simply to run through the woods

484
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<v Speaker 1>with his other three compatriots. But he was the only

485
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<v Speaker 1>one that took a gun. There was one other gun

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<v Speaker 1>found in the car, and none of the other three

487
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>took the gun with him. One person took the gun,

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<v Speaker 1>that was Ryan Hinton. Why did he take the gun, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>why he had an intend to use it? He took

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<v Speaker 1>about six or seven steps and panic and fell on

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<v Speaker 1>the pavement and the gun fell separately from Rodney Hinton's body.

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00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Rodney Hitton got up, bent over and picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>gun again off the pavement. Now why did he do

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<v Speaker 1>that if he didn't intend to use it. He then

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<v Speaker 1>ran in between two dumpsters to provide cover. His other

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<v Speaker 1>compatriots did not run between dumpsters. There's a wooded area.

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<v Speaker 1>They simply headed out for the woods. But Ryan Hinton

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<v Speaker 1>won a different direction. Came through these mental dumpsters that

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<v Speaker 1>are about.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight feet high.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the police, the first thing the officer

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<v Speaker 1>noted after one of his fellow officers yelled gun, gun, gun,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when the guns came out by the police, they

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out their service weapons because when you're trained to

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<v Speaker 1>hear gun, gun, gun, it's on. So the officer then

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<v Speaker 1>sees Rodney Hinton, who had three chances to stop what

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<v Speaker 1>was going to occur. Number one, put your hands up

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<v Speaker 1>with the car itself.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two reached back into the car and grab a

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<v Speaker 1>nine millimeter loaded and number three, when he tripped on

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<v Speaker 1>the pavement and could have simply ran away at that

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<v Speaker 1>point without the gun. He took the gun with him

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<v Speaker 1>with a specific purpose in mind. I would suggest to

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<v Speaker 1>you to kill police. And when he came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the dumpster area, the officer perceived a threat and fired

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<v Speaker 1>and and killed Ryan Hinton. An officer does not have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait to get shot at before he shoots. Some

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, I think the evidence is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be he was shot kind of sideways in the chest,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit below the armpit, and I think the

522
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 1>pullet went on the left side of his chest came

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<v Speaker 1>out the right side.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the so called kill shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the officer have to wait till he's wounded or

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<v Speaker 1>shot at before he returns fire. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it reasonable to assume that the officer thought his

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<v Speaker 1>life was in eminent danger absolutely along with the lives

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<v Speaker 1>of his other fellow officers. He had the capability of

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<v Speaker 1>firing about twenty five shots because of the extended may

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<v Speaker 1>So everything that happened was completely controlled by Ryan Hinton,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything the police did was pursuing of their training

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<v Speaker 1>to save their lives and the lives of others. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue after one o'clock today, in about ten to fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have eminent crimin offense attorney Clyde Bennett's going to

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<v Speaker 1>join us and we're going to discuss his defense of

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Hinton. And right now at this point in a sense,

538
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<v Speaker 1>but we have an eminent criminal defense attorney walking in

539
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<v Speaker 1>the shoes of less gains, and that's Clyde Bennett, and

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00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Clyde Bennett's going to take on this case and many others.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to quiz him number one, why you

542
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<v Speaker 1>taking this case? And number two, what are the available defenses?

543
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<v Speaker 1>And number three are you going to seek an evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>of Rodney Hinton? Number four are you going to admit

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00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that Rodney Hinton committed the offense but that is not

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<v Speaker 1>legally responsible because of the mental conditions that he possessed

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. Let's continue, Sad. Sad said Thursday and

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<v Speaker 1>Friday is going to be awful. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of social media making this a racial issue, which is

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<v Speaker 1>it is not the only thing that matters in this

551
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 1>case is the behavior of Ryan Hinton. If a person

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<v Speaker 1>white as chalk and the exactly the same thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>same result would have happened if the cop was black.

554
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<v Speaker 1>And Ryan Hinton was white, same thing would have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say exactly the same thing. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>left wing radical element in this community that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make everything racial because of certain benefits derived by making

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<v Speaker 1>the allegations. And I give the NAACP some credit. At

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<v Speaker 1>least they're not as extreme as they were under Joe Mallory.

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<v Speaker 1>And the head of the NAACP now is making some

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<v Speaker 1>lucid statements which we appreciate. Race has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this. It's about behavior. Let's continue. Twelve fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>HOMEO Reds News Radio seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. My Billy Cunningham, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Great American, of course, defined the criminal defense attorney for

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant in this case, Rodney Hinton Junior is Clyde Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>And Clyde Bennett Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, Clyde, can you tell the American

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<v Speaker 1>people why you took this case?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I took this case for the same reason I

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<v Speaker 5>take all of my cases. I think it's my guy

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<v Speaker 5>given purpose to stand next to the accused and to

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<v Speaker 5>represent them.

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<v Speaker 4>This case is no different.

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<v Speaker 5>Except that it had some some publicity to it and

576
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<v Speaker 5>it's potentially politically and racially charged. I don't shy wife

577
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<v Speaker 5>shy aways in cases. The family called me, the family

578
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<v Speaker 5>asked me to represent him. I knew it would be

579
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<v Speaker 5>a challenging case. I prayed about it, I got an answer.

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<v Speaker 5>I told the family I would accept the case. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what I'm doing, well, critic, I want to be

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<v Speaker 5>clear up something. No, Bill, A lot of people think

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<v Speaker 5>that they see me in these high profile cases, and

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<v Speaker 5>they think that I go out and try to get

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<v Speaker 5>these cases.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been called an ambulance chaser, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>The only way you're going to see me on a

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<v Speaker 5>case somebody has called me, and somebody has asked me

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<v Speaker 5>to represent me to represent them, and then thirdly they

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<v Speaker 5>paid me. So this case was no different.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases. You talk about political and racial element.

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<v Speaker 1>What is in your mind or sell the family's mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the political aspects of this case. How does politics and

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<v Speaker 1>or race play into.

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<v Speaker 5>This Politically, you have a police officer that was killed.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a victim that is.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate it, admired by the public, and a lot of

599
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<v Speaker 5>value is placed on his life more so than other individuals. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm just telling you

601
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<v Speaker 5>what it is. That's the reality of the situation. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>you kill a lay person down on sixth Street, Okay,

603
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<v Speaker 5>John Doe got shot. But if you kill a police officer,

604
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<v Speaker 5>there's more significance attached to that person. That person is

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<v Speaker 5>valued more by society.

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<v Speaker 4>Rightly so.

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<v Speaker 5>But the bottom line is, that's the situation that you're

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with. So you have a political animis that you

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<v Speaker 5>typically would not have with respect to an average person's

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<v Speaker 5>being killed. Anybody who disagreed with that, they're not being truthful.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the way it is. So you have a political

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<v Speaker 5>charge here because when an officer dies, people want to

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<v Speaker 5>do something about it. That's your last line against lawlessness.

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<v Speaker 5>So it makes sense. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>telling you what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the racial aspect of this case.

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<v Speaker 5>The racial aspect, the potential racial aspect is you have

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<v Speaker 5>a white police officer and you have a black defender. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't mean that somebody is a racist for bringing

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<v Speaker 5>the charge. That doesn't mean that the people feel a

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<v Speaker 5>certain way or everybody feels a certain way because of

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<v Speaker 5>the racial makeup of the defendant and the victim. But

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the day, race is a factor

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<v Speaker 5>and can't be a factor. Look at the comments, look

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<v Speaker 5>at look look at what the people are saying about

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<v Speaker 5>this case. And anybody that is aware and privy of

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<v Speaker 5>what's being said about this case publicly by the public

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<v Speaker 5>is aware that race can be an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>On that yep I had on the sheriff about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour ago, and yesterday I spoke with Michael Right of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cochrane Law firm. He's representing the civil aspects of

632
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old or Ryan Hinton, and to investigate that

633
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 1>is there any coordination between you representing Rodney Hinton the

634
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>father and Michael Wright representing in a sense, the estate

635
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of Ryan Hinton the son. Is any coordination between you two.

636
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<v Speaker 5>No whatsoever, two different matters, two different individuals to represent

637
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 5>the estate. I represent Rodney Hinton Junior at an individual

638
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 5>that's charged with the commission of a client. No coordination,

639
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 5>no association whatsoever. Absolutely illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned at the arrangement and as subsequent proceedings. I

641
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>think it was yesterday that insanity may be offered. As

642
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a competency test to stand trial, whether

643
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the defender understands the nature of the charges against them

644
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 1>and can assist you in the defense and the other aspects.

645
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Is NGRIS to be determined by jury? Are you going

646
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to file motions of competency that is suggesting that Rodney

647
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>hint it's not capable of assisting in this defense, or

648
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>where you simply at some point looking to NGRI instead.

649
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<v Speaker 5>Potentially that may be ampleting, that may be fouled. But

650
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 5>the first thing I need to do is to acquaint

651
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 5>myself with all of the evidence to make certain that

652
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 5>the state, in my opinion, can prove beyond a reasonable

653
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<v Speaker 5>doubt whether or not.

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<v Speaker 4>He purposely.

655
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 5>Tried to kill this police officer or Deputy Henderson, Deputy

656
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 5>Larry Inderson.

657
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<v Speaker 4>That's the first thing to do, and that's going to

658
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 4>take some time because I'll have to bit the evidence.

659
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm also very acquainted with the mentality or the mental

660
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 5>state of my client, and I'm looking at that also.

661
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 5>No decision has been made. I've got a lot of

662
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 5>work to do to decide the best course of defense

663
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 5>for my client.

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<v Speaker 1>Union are you going to appeal the decision by Judge

665
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>tyrone Yates to the Common Police Court? At some point

666
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I would think sometime in the next four or five days,

667
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>your client's going to be in it likely for capital

668
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 1>murder with a stepth penalty. Spec Are you going to

669
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 1>try to get your client out on bond during the proceedings.

670
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to attempt to, but I know as a

671
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 5>matter of law that's going to be very difficult because

672
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 5>if you charge with the capital offense camps, the camps

673
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 5>that be getting bond is.

674
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 4>Clemmed Anne and even if these invited.

675
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 5>Just for aggravated murder, it's going to be swimming up

676
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 5>if you look at that no bond statue based on

677
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 5>what transpired, particularly if you're taking the consideration of mental state,

678
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 5>there would be a good reason for him to be

679
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 5>detained throughout the pendency of the criminal proceedings. I'm not

680
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 5>going to previously do anything right.

681
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You're a late person when it comes to psychiatric matter,

682
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>so that you've had many experiences with n GRI. I

683
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>do you have when you talk with Rodney Hinton? Is

684
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>he able to understand what you're saying to him, does

685
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>he understand the nature of the charges against him? And

686
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.519
<v Speaker 1>can he counsel with you in preparing a defense.

687
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to go into that going into a

688
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 5>turning client privilege, and I don't think that's in advantations

689
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 5>for him at this day the legal process. I am

690
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 5>aware of whether or not he's competent or and competent

691
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 5>based on my air actions with him. I am aware

692
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.199
<v Speaker 5>of whether or not, in my opinion, he may not

693
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 5>have known the wrong.

694
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 4>From this of his conduct.

695
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 5>That'll come out in the future if that's the most

696
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 5>appropriate applicable.

697
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<v Speaker 4>Defense of this case.

698
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<v Speaker 5>Now.

699
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 4>I have had in the past, many, many, many.

700
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 5>Cases involved in the defensive not guilty by reason number sanity,

701
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 5>and I've got acquittals were not guilty by Redumber sanity

702
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 5>no matter of fact. The only other death only case

703
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 5>that received me not guilty by Resember scentity was my

704
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:41.480
<v Speaker 5>case probably about I don't know, fifteen or twenty years ago,

705
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 5>when a woman killed her two children and she was

706
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 5>insane and she was found not guilty by Resumber Sansey.

707
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 5>So I have some experience with it, and thank god,

708
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 5>my daughter is a psychiatric nurse practitioner.

709
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 4>So I can lean on her too. I think, from

710
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 4>what I've seen deal his little state is an issue,

711
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 4>his middle state is an issue. I don't think that.

712
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 6>This young man.

713
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 5>Had an evil mind or criminal mind to kill a

714
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 5>police officer because of what had happened to us. I

715
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 5>think seeing that video exacerbated a precipitated a cap in

716
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 5>the middle.

717
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 4>Disease, a debate that he already had.

718
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 6>Did he go?

719
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.199
<v Speaker 5>You know so that that that's an issue.

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00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

721
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was in his right frame of

722
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 5>mind based on everything that I've seen.

723
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 1>You know Clyde a few days ago ahead on Chief

724
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of Police Thigi, who was present when the video was

725
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 1>being shown. Uh, do you are you saying that the

726
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 1>video and the timing of the video may be an

727
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>element you bring up that triggered an underlying psychiatric condition

728
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>that resulted in the murder of Larry Henderson. That are

729
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>you saying the video should not have been shown when

730
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>it was shown.

731
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 4>That is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

732
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:03.519
<v Speaker 4>the video could have triggered that's like answered episode that

733
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 4>rendered him unable to understand.

734
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 5>The wrongfulness of his conduct. I'm not blaming anybody for it.

735
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you what may have happened to him physiologically.

736
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 5>That's a regular as a result of saying.

737
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 4>That video, if you already have a sick mind.

738
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 5>And you see that it can facultate that type of conduct.

739
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 5>And if you look, if you look at what's transpired,

740
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 5>Typically when somebody does not understand the wrongfulness of their

741
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 5>conduct because they have a mental defect or condition, they're brazen,

742
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 5>their bold and their attentional with their acts, and they

743
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 5>don't try to hide.

744
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Them because what they think they're doing is right in

745
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 4>your mind and their sick mind. You think it's right.

746
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>They don't think it's wrong.

747
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 5>They don't understand the wrongness of their conduct, so they

748
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 5>do it.

749
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 4>They're almost proud of it. Y'ah did it?

750
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 7>Does?

751
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 5>They're stick in their mind? And I think besides the

752
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 5>hallmarks of that type of that type of mentality and

753
00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 5>that type of behavior.

754
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Clyde Bennett. Does Rodney Hinton Junior have a history of

755
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric difficulties or has every been diagnosed with parano schizophrenia

756
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>with effective components or delusional behaviors? Does he have a

757
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>history of treatment up to this he's thirty eight years old.

758
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Does he have a history.

759
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to get into the specifics of the history,

760
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 5>but he has a mental history, suficer to say, and

761
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 5>it's document.

762
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 3>And you're going to use that well.

763
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's important because someone could have a psychiatric

764
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 1>episode at the age of thirty eight. But normally, if

765
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>someone's thirty eight years old, they've lived about half their life.

766
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 1>And if he has a history of psychiatric conditions, I

767
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>would say the woman that you got n gri on

768
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, killing or two babies, had a history

769
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 1>of psychological psychiatric difficulties. The state should have jumped in

770
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>at some point taking the kids away. But that's a

771
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>different issue. But in this particular case, I spoke to

772
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a prosecutor who told me, well, when he left District one,

773
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>having seen the video those presents, said he did not

774
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 1>express any unusual attestations toward a police officer. That he

775
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>got into his car, he was mentally alert to put

776
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the key in the ignition, put his foot on the

777
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 1>gas and drive. He seemingly obeyed traffic laws. His mind

778
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 1>was operating. According to a witness who testified I think

779
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you tried to cross examine him yesterday, said that he

780
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>stopped his vehicle on mL King and then he looked

781
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and that he had time to consider no skid marks.

782
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 1>He purposely drove the car and there's a terrible video

783
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>which I've not yet seen, of Deputy Shriff Larry Henderson

784
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>flying in the air when he was struck. And so

785
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 1>just before he was struck, your client was exhibiting mental

786
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>awareness of his circumstances by driving a car done that

787
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>work against the interests.

788
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 5>As a matter of fact, Okay, everything you said is

789
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 5>consistent with being insane at the times to committed with this.

790
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 5>Because the physical manifestation indicates that you're aware of what

791
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 5>you're doing mentally, that doesn't mean that you're in your

792
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 5>right mind. You're still functionally mentally, but if you're sick

793
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 5>or you have a defect or a condition psychosis, being bipolar, schizophrenia,

794
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 5>you still act and function a certain way, and to

795
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 5>the outside it may look like you understand, you know

796
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.480
<v Speaker 5>what you're doing, but you're don't. You're working under the

797
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 5>authority of the defect or the condition. So if you're bipolar,

798
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 5>you're doing things somebody just looking at you might say, well, well,

799
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 5>he stabbed that person.

800
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 4>He knew what he was doing. Well, yeah, it looks

801
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 4>like he did. But if he's sick and.

802
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 5>He has a defect or mental condition, he doesn't know

803
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 5>what he's doing. So even though in the other thing, yes,

804
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 5>this appears to be an intentional act.

805
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 4>Again, look at.

806
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 5>Mental conditions and defects. When you're insane and when you

807
00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 5>all commit criminal acts. Again, they're bold, they're intentional, and they're.

808
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 6>Conspicuous, they're obvious.

809
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 5>And that's what happened in this case, is to kill

810
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.679
<v Speaker 5>till side of classic insanity. And it's like the woman

811
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 5>twenty years ago, she killed her children. She drove him

812
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 5>in the tub. The police was called by neighbor. The

813
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 5>neighbor came knocked that door and said, hey, weren't kid

814
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 5>that She said it be in the bathtub.

815
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I drowned him.

816
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 5>I got to nuble one of them.

817
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 4>She didn't try to hide it.

818
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 5>She was It was an intentional by her, but she

819
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 5>was crazy.

820
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.199
<v Speaker 4>As far as what you're saying, it supports what I'm saying.

821
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>N gr eyes an affirmative defense, which says, I admit

822
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I committed the defense, but don't have legal responsibility.

823
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 3>And you're not going to contend, are you.

824
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you're stating in the fact that Larry Henderson was

825
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>killed by Rodney Hinton, however, he's not legally liable. You're

826
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to contend that he was the guy behind

827
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>the wheel of the car that had Larry Henderson. You're

828
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 1>going to concede that correct.

829
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 5>At this stage. The legal process has previously gave it

830
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 5>a few minutes ago. Once I go through all of

831
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 5>the events, I will decide what is the best defense

832
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 5>for my client. But based on my affiliation and acquaintance

833
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 5>with this case at this point and the evidence that

834
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 5>my investigator has come up with and what I've looked at,

835
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 5>it appears that the most appropriate defense is that are

836
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 5>not guilty.

837
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>If by reading on the sanity and lastly, Clyde Bennett,

838
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>what message would you give to the community. There's been

839
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>some social media postings about injury or death inflicted upon

840
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 1>police during the funeral proceedings, which are Thursday and Friday.

841
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.159
<v Speaker 1>The bareral is going to be on Friday, this visitation

842
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for Larry Henderson. I would assume none of the family

843
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 1>of Rodney Hinton will be there. I assume you will

844
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 1>not be there. But what message would you give to

845
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<v Speaker 1>the greater community of out taking further retribution against the police.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is wrong. I think it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Criminal, and I don't think anybody should involve themselves in

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<v Speaker 5>any capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>With respect to these ceremonies and procedures for defue Larry.

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<v Speaker 5>Henderson number one. Number two, I don't think that anybody is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that if you hear that, that's just a

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<v Speaker 5>fodder for the media.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's no factual basis for that actually happens happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, The Hidden.

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<v Speaker 5>Family respects, appreciates, and admires law enforcement.

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00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 4>Clyde Bennett appreciates an admires law enforcement. Clyde Bennet and

857
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 4>mister Henderson or Deputy Henderson, there's respect, there's admiration and

858
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 4>appreciation from the Hidden Family and defense counsel. It's just

859
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 4>that I have a job to do for mister Hinton.

860
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 4>No disrespect to.

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00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 5>Deputy Henderson, the Hamlet County Sheriff's Department, there's other colleagues

862
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 5>and fellows. I'm sorry, we're playing for you. We're praying

863
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 5>for Deputy Henderson, and we're praying for his family, and

864
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm also.

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<v Speaker 4>Praying for my city, Cincinnata.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's where I am. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not injury for me to do. What would I do?

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<v Speaker 5>There's always a spiritual and emotional quandary what I have

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<v Speaker 5>to go through with cases like this. In most of

870
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<v Speaker 5>my cases. But I've got a compartment a LOI that.

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00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 4>And do what God has put me on his surf

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<v Speaker 4>to do, and that stands for the cues.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, Clyde Bennett, what's the next proceeding? I would anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>have you been informed he'll be indicted in the next

875
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 1>five or six days?

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00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Is that the next step?

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00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And then you'll be in an arrangment in front of

878
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 1>common place court where you seek to have the bond

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<v Speaker 1>a change.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the next proceeding the indictment.

881
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 5>The next proceeding is the indictment, and that'll be within

882
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 5>a week, like you said, probably Friday Monday at the latest.

883
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 5>And then we'll be back in court that Friday, uh

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<v Speaker 5>basing the arrayment and injuring another plea.

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<v Speaker 4>To the official indeanment.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that point you may issue a suggestion of incompetency.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>I might if I'm acclaiming with all of the evidence,

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if I'll be acclaiming with all

890
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<v Speaker 5>of the evidence at that point, all right, And I've

891
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<v Speaker 5>got to make certain that in fact, I think I

892
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<v Speaker 5>have enough of a basis.

893
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 4>But I want to make sure that I have the

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00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 4>medical basis for that position.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Clyde Bennett, thank you for coming on and

896
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<v Speaker 1>getting the word out. The most important thing is let

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<v Speaker 1>the law enforcement community grieve on Thursday and Friday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens there. I would anticipate this is

899
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<v Speaker 1>these are these are vain threats without substance, and because.

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<v Speaker 5>Bread definitely banging threats without substance, nobody's going to do anything.

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00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Again, Praying for the Hendon family and I'm playing for.

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<v Speaker 1>The Henderson dinerly Clyd Benna, thank you, mich Thanks, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

904
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<v Speaker 1>And I'll check in with you in the weeks and

905
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<v Speaker 1>months ahead. But once again, thank you very much, Clyde,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill.

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00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, let's continue with.

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<v Speaker 1>More and if line becomes available five one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>four nine, seven thousand and uh. At this point, uh,

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00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what occurs and g R. I not guilty

912
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 1>of our reason. Insanity is likely to be filed according

913
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to Clyde Bennett, and perhaps a suggestion of incompetency to

914
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>stay in trial, and we may discuss that later with you.

915
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<v Speaker 3>But I think you know what that means.

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00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 1>If I'm if a person cannot counsel with his lawyer

917
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 1>understand the nature of the charges against him. Then he

918
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>can be found mentally incompetent to even stand trial, in

919
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>which case he's put into a mental hospital to restore

920
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to sanity, then go to trial. Bill Cunningham News Radio

921
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 3>Extra ominis extra ominess.

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00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:58.320
<v Speaker 8>Oh hello, quiet, and I'm scos.

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00:51:58.360 --> 00:51:59.639
<v Speaker 6>I'm broadcasting.

925
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 9>Gosh.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess the main man telling him to get out,

927
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 6>get out, get out. The doors are and get out.

928
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 6>The cardinals are talking.

929
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<v Speaker 1>We have no smoke, but there's a pigeon right near

930
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the sin doll or something. The seagull or a pigeon

931
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 1>could be the most famous seagull of smoke company. I

932
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<v Speaker 1>was waiting too for the white. It's going to be

933
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 1>black smoked for a while, wouldn't you agree?

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<v Speaker 6>I would say so. Somebody said the first they I guess,

935
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<v Speaker 6>the first time they've ever did this was like in

936
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<v Speaker 6>twelve something. It took him a thousand days to pick

937
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<v Speaker 6>a pope. And and they say that's it. Couldn't get it.

938
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<v Speaker 6>You're you're the first. That's it. They just said, you're in.

939
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<v Speaker 7>You're in.

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<v Speaker 1>This should take I'm predicting Friday evening. They want to

941
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 1>get home. They've been up there for about ten days.

942
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And when you get home. Yeah, so that's like a

943
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>jury out now for two or three days. Come Friday afternoon,

944
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the jury said, we're going home to Daddy, going home

945
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to mommy. Let's end this thing right now. I'm going

946
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with Archbishop Sarah of Africa. Sarah, I like that guy

947
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Philippines. Is he related to Elise? You're going no,

948
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. But anything new on Bill Belichick.

949
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.320
<v Speaker 6>There's a new there's a guy in there, Willie. I

950
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 6>forget what they said his name was, but he's forty

951
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 6>five years old. Could be a pope for fifty years.

952
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<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say, if he gets the gig, don't

953
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<v Speaker 6>look out.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know. We'll see what happens. That's all I can say.

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00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Now, what about I'm gonna talk to you about Gordon

956
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Veterino by not hole baseball coach. Yeah, when the second

957
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.760
<v Speaker 1>basement of the shortstop is taking a throw from the outfield, Yeah,

958
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>you position your body sideways catch the ball, and you're

959
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 1>throwing at home.

960
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 3>You don't have your back to home plate correct and

961
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 3>the ball.

962
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>As the ball is coming to you, you turn catch

963
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>it and throw or the first basement or the second

964
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 1>of the shortstop says home home, home, going to.

965
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Brantley, the key play in the game.

966
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 1>McClain had the wrong body position, right, that's on him

967
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and to no one told him where to throw the ball.

968
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.920
<v Speaker 6>Plus, don't you think they know how fast Steward fair

969
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 6>Child is. We do know he was with the Reds.

970
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 6>I mean you don't you know, like, hey, this guy

971
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 6>can score from anywhere just like the rest of them.

972
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, McClean can't hit, but at least you can field.

973
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 6>Well, he's letting his offense suffer his defense. Is that

974
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 6>it that's what he's doing.

975
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, whatever it is they have to They've scored one

976
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 1>one run in Atlanta, right, Uh, yeah, one run and

977
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Abbot went.

978
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Abbot deserved a better fate. So did Chris Saal.

979
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.719
<v Speaker 6>He had ten strikeouts and Abbot had eight through seven

980
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 6>it was nil nil.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this text from a good friend of mine,

982
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's so true. That's so many of my

983
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>liberal friends live a certain way and express viewpoints, and

984
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they certainly talk left but live right. So two or

985
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 1>three are on the practice to hitting balls Chemic Country Club. Uh,

986
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and I point out each of them have multiple homes,

987
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 1>multiple country clubs, and they're liberals. So they talk left

988
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>but live right when it comes time to send their

989
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 1>kids to public school.

990
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, no, no, But nobody talks right and lives left. No,

991
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 6>no one does that.

992
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 1>But I have a lot of big time liberals who

993
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 1>live left, who live right but talk left.

994
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

995
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>They want to act as if they're liberal, but in raality,

996
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 1>their whole lives are conservative. In other words, they're hypocrites.

997
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<v Speaker 6>Will leave the student reporters approach service of your local

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<v Speaker 6>Tamestar Heating and air conditioning dealers, Temestar Quality. You could

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<v Speaker 6>feel a beautiful northern Kentucky called Johnson Heating and Cooling.

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<v Speaker 6>At eight five nine four seven two sixty fifty one spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge tyrone Yates and I are texting back and forth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, how is the peanut head my beloved dog,

1003
00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 1>which I got from a pound. I said, peanut is

1004
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 1>in the arms of God Almighty. Do dogs go to

1005
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 1>heaven segment? Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's where Mimi, too,

1006
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to Emma and Zuomie are. And I also have a

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00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>note here from Jeff Beckham. Veterino made us learn distances

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00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>from home to second one hundred and twenty seven feet

1009
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<v Speaker 1>three and three inches segment.

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<v Speaker 6>They couldn't. They could have thrown the guy out if

1011
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 6>he's in the right position. Jake Freeley did a great

1012
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 6>job of not letting the ball get the.

1013
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Begin right and the throw was good. But you have

1014
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 1>to go sideways, catch the ball sideways and throw. And

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00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you also you know the play is going to be

1016
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>at home? Am I right or wrong?

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<v Speaker 6>I would say, so you know the place, So catch

1018
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 6>the ball and base coach is.

1019
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<v Speaker 1>Going to send him. Maybe if he doesn't, they're going

1020
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<v Speaker 1>to keep playing. Gordon Veterino did not. Coach Matt McClain.

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<v Speaker 6>Reds will be able to snap that four game loosing

1022
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 6>streak tonight, Willie and the game three of their series

1023
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<v Speaker 6>in against the Braves. Hunter Green, it is coming off

1024
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.039
<v Speaker 6>that twelve strikeout effort against Washington. They gotta win tonight,

1025
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:58.800
<v Speaker 6>hopefully going to be the stopper tonight. Opposed by Grant

1026
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<v Speaker 6>John Holmes. Did you see the Pacers in the Cavaliers

1027
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.960
<v Speaker 6>last night? Yes? Seven hundred ww he's covered six oh

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<v Speaker 6>five Sports talk. Are no carriers inside pitch Kelsey Chevrolet

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<v Speaker 6>Extra Inning show after the game. Now Bengals up A

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<v Speaker 6>waitmit what uh? We got somebody else hurt?

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<v Speaker 3>What about what?

1032
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<v Speaker 6>Noel? Noel v Marte scratched from the lineup last night.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got a pain in his left side. I got

1034
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 6>a pain in my you know what. Jeff Brandley hit

1035
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<v Speaker 6>But he was hit by pitch in Louisville during his

1036
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<v Speaker 6>rehab stint. He didn't tell anybody, but he it was

1037
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<v Speaker 6>the left side of him was bothering him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's playing well, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 5>What?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I mean, and that's what he did with the

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<v Speaker 6>well No, that was Cees with a hand now for

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<v Speaker 6>ten days, I don't know. See what he Seev's in

1043
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<v Speaker 6>there tonight it's Andy Mack. They're like fragile China dolls.

1044
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<v Speaker 6>Bengals up. They brought to you by Good Spirits. At

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<v Speaker 6>Party Town thirteen locations in Northern Kentucky, Joe Burrow has arrived. Ohta,

1046
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 6>Joe Burrow is on the fields wear offseason workout.

1047
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<v Speaker 3>What's he wearing his Bengal gear? Shall I say? Who

1048
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<v Speaker 3>is he wearing?

1049
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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing his Bengal gear? Does he have his designer

1050
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>with him? No, how about his hair specialists. No is

1051
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>he wearing a uniform or a tow to two uniform.

1052
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 1>He is here jersey shorts the whole deal. But headband,

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<v Speaker 1>got a headband? Now got a headband on?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>What about Trey Hendrickson.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm glad you asked that because ESPN reports contract

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00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.039
<v Speaker 6>talks for a long term deal deal between the Bengals

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00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 6>and Trey Hendrickson are apparently now at a stalemate.

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00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Who said that, ESPN? So he wants like thirty some

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00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>mill and the Bengals don't want.

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<v Speaker 6>To pay it. Well, he said, he's got a base

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00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 6>salary of sixteen million in the final year of the

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00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 6>deal deal and he is steadfast in his belief he

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<v Speaker 6>deserves a raise.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's got a they got, they got.

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00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 6>They picked up some extra because two guys have had

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00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:07.760
<v Speaker 6>their have had their contracts cut in half, one of

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<v Speaker 6>them being Geno Gino Geno Stone yesterday. I gotta see

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00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 6>about that now. Tyler Callahan underwent surgery yesterday on that

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00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 6>broken left forearm. No activity for him for six to

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00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.599
<v Speaker 6>eight weeks, but is not, according to the Reds, a

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00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 6>season ending injury.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be back.

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00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.840
<v Speaker 6>He'll be back. Rett Louder on a rehab with the

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00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:34.000
<v Speaker 6>acl Reds in Arizona. Three innings last night, two runs,

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00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 6>four hits, five k's. Looks like mister Louder is headed

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<v Speaker 6>to the Dayton Dragons.

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00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Where's Kevin Mitchell when you need him?

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<v Speaker 6>Speaking of the Dragons, Wade Miley is going to resume

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00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:47.760
<v Speaker 6>his rehab assignment with the Dragons on Saturday. He's coming off,

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, a groin injury.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a groin problem. Yeah, sometimes I have a

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<v Speaker 1>groin problem. You ever get a groin problem?

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<v Speaker 6>Always? It hurts all the time. I bet ending new

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<v Speaker 6>and Bill b Check Uh no, thank goodness? Is he

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<v Speaker 6>up for? Is he up for? Pope?

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01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 3>What about Jordan?

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01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.199
<v Speaker 6>Nothing on her? As far as I know, I want

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01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 6>to see summer camps. It's been kind of quiet, so

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01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 6>maybe some days. Well apparently he is.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess the other day I saw where mister Belichick

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<v Speaker 6>uh hired a PR firm to kind of boo boost

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01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 6>sales of the book. I guess the book is kind

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01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 6>of right now because who wants to read about him?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick is a legend, but now right he's ruined

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy segment?

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<v Speaker 6>Correct. I don't get it with the with this and

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<v Speaker 6>that and everything else. If I was North Carolina, I say,

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<v Speaker 6>coach on.

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<v Speaker 3>The bio, I'll tell you a million. What about Jordan.

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<v Speaker 6>Says, I guarantee you North Carolina can raise a million

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01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 6>dollars in about a New York.

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01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Jaylly News says she got eight million dollars of his

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01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>assets put in her name eight mill. So she's getting

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01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:58.519
<v Speaker 1>eight mill. What's he getting?

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01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Segment? What is he getting?

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01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't say stimulating conversation? I think so very stimulating.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have hope for the Reds tonight with the

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01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Green? Yes, they gotta win tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Always have hope, William until the AP puts that X

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01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:17.599
<v Speaker 6>next to their name, which means they've been eliminated for

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01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:21.880
<v Speaker 6>the playoff. Packer week ago, we were rocking and rolling

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01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:23.920
<v Speaker 6>four in a row. Now all of a sudden, it's

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01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 6>like four losses in a row, six of eight, can't score.

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01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.559
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, the bats have gone silent. I say,

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01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.159
<v Speaker 6>get the torpedo bats back. Well, whatever it takes, everybody

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01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 6>gets a torpedo bat. Atlanta ought to be a good

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01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 6>hitting but that guy, you, I mean, you know the

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<v Speaker 6>Monday night, the sOliver guy was very good. Last night,

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01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.400
<v Speaker 6>Chris Sale was on his game, so it was Andrew

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01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 6>Abbott seven scoreless between them. Abbott had eight strikeouts, Sale

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01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 6>had ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt McClain lost the game. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, they know they botched. They botched that way, right.

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01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Gordon Veterino taught us better than that.

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<v Speaker 6>Second man, I know at least they had the relay throw.

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't try to, you know, throw it in the

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01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.760
<v Speaker 6>home plate like Dave Parker and the All Star Games. Second,

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<v Speaker 6>that's all you need. Don't you think they know how

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01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 6>fast Stewart Fairchild is and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to throw it home right, and he waited

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit. That cost him big time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>anything else in sports? I don't think Joe Burrow has

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<v Speaker 1>number nine?

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<v Speaker 6>Is Joe Burrow is back, so everybody cal him down,

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<v Speaker 6>Parson Palmer, Joe Burrow correct, number nine, number nine. Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Burrow is back. Who's he wearing? He's wearing his jersey

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<v Speaker 6>and shorts, new headband on. He's got a black headband. Good.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's a designer deal. See what happens segment.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what you say, but Burrow is back?

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01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.159
<v Speaker 6>What about Indian Pakistan? Going at it.

1143
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 3>How about Indiana taking down the Celtics last night?

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01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:56.199
<v Speaker 6>Oh that was pretty good.

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01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 3>How good was that?

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01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:01.239
<v Speaker 6>But unbelievable, Andy Mack. I mean, how about this stat.

1147
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>A home team right in the NBA with a seven

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01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>point lead and with less than a minute to go,

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01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>less than a minute to go, right, the record is

1150
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:17.719
<v Speaker 1>three and one nineteen. Well, didn't Reggie Miller do that

1151
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago in New York?

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01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:19.599
<v Speaker 5>Right?

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01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.719
<v Speaker 6>But this is unbelievable, Andy Mack. This is against Cleveland,

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01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 6>best team in the league. They just didn't name the

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<v Speaker 6>coach of the year there and the Cavs are well,

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01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:33.119
<v Speaker 6>I mean, home field, home home court advantage is bye bye,

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01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 6>they got five games.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, England doesn't have a timeout, so they'll have to

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01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 10>make us a test. Will inbound from the baseline, and

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01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 10>then the Pacers will try to force a turnover. Failing Matt,

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01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.119
<v Speaker 10>they would undoubtedly foul. Second one is short and it's

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01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.599
<v Speaker 10>rebounded by Halliburton. The Pacers have a timeout, will they

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01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:52.000
<v Speaker 10>use it? Well they don't, Yes, they do have a timeout.

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<v Speaker 10>Four seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Halliburton four three three ball up top Indiana by one

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<v Speaker 6>one in one ten seconds to go. Inbound Merrill didn't

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<v Speaker 6>get it off. And this Rivals the Milwaukee finish. You

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<v Speaker 6>have got to be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland right now is in a turmoil. Segment.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you got the Calves not playing well in the playoffs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you got that, Deshaun Watson. You got the shadeer Sanders

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<v Speaker 6>in there. He's number five on the Depth Star. By

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01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.119
<v Speaker 6>the way, you think he's number five. If he's number five,

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<v Speaker 6>his daddy'll come to town and say, here we are.

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<v Speaker 6>Who's in more trouble. Robert Kraft with the massages or

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<v Speaker 6>Bill Beligiane, I mean with a jet with mister Tucker

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01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:47.440
<v Speaker 6>and Baltimore. Well, how about that guy too, Nothing but issues,

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<v Speaker 6>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Segment. Give me out, Give me on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Stooge, Willie and out of a beautiful day here in

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<v Speaker 6>the Tri State and go Reds. Please leave you with

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01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:00.159
<v Speaker 6>the immortal words of the stooge Riple.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the famous African American baseball player in America.

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01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 6>H hang out from from Medicano and he didn't get

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01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 6>to play in the Major League Baseball until he was

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01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 6>forty five years old.

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01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Because of the black.

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<v Speaker 6>The league pitch.

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<v Speaker 8>Because there's a picture and you and you usually pitcher

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01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.960
<v Speaker 8>lose their arm when they're thirty five. In general, little

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<v Speaker 8>he pitched to win on this forty seventh birthday, Bishop

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01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.599
<v Speaker 8>the Press Walkston Locker name was Sachel.

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<v Speaker 3>Page Satul Page It command exs said Satch.

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<v Speaker 6>No one's ever pitched to win at age forty seven?

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01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.199
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about pitching to win on your birthday?

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01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 3>Marchant to complain, you look at me, said boys, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not how I look at age.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys, that's not how I look at him that I

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01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 3>look at it this way. How old would you be

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01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 3>if you didn't know how old you were?

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<v Speaker 4>To thank you?

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<v Speaker 7>Sotips on to.

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<v Speaker 1>That, you say you're sixty five.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Pope Francis going back and forth to Joe Biden,

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01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.280
<v Speaker 1>who gave an interview last night to BBC, oh boy,

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01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 1>claiming you he is mentally competent, and uh so am

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01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I He solved the Rubik's cube in about eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, you can do I amic pentameter poetry.

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<v Speaker 6>And I ain't got nothing else to do.

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01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Nothing else.

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01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 6>I think he's not running things now.

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01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per speech, what plus expenses,

1216
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 1>just saying that's what he's getting your reaction. Let's continue

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01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.960
<v Speaker 1>with more Natasha Souvez coming up about sex and women's

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01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 1>prisons on News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham the

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<v Speaker 1>Great American of course, Natasha and Zuvez is a correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>with investigative reporter and anchor with News Nation and I

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<v Speaker 1>noteed online. Congratulations are in order. She received four Emmy nominations.

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<v Speaker 1>One is for the Forever Chemical story, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, but that's a story that's ongoing. Also, there's

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01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 1>another story out by Natasha Souvez about a rape culture,

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01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a rape club prison in California, which is probably present

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the nation. But first of all, Natasha Zuvez, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations are in order about the Forever Chemicals. We've done

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01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.440
<v Speaker 1>this story once with you. I've done it about a

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01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 1>year or two ago with attorneys and just briefly congratulations. Secondly,

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01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.079
<v Speaker 1>just tell the American people again about the Forever Chemical

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01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.000
<v Speaker 1>story and why it affects every American today.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Bill, thank you so much, and it's always great

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01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 7>to speak with you and I share these congratulations with

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01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 7>you as well. You really helped us spread the word

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01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:22.279
<v Speaker 7>about this story forever chemicals painting our food supply. I

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01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 7>got so many pieces of mail, so many messages from

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01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 7>your listeners after they heard our conversation when this first

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01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:31.359
<v Speaker 7>aired a few months ago. And it's because it affects

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01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:34.239
<v Speaker 7>every single one of us. Ninety seven percent of us

1241
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.039
<v Speaker 7>already have this forever chemical in our blood, and we

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01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.319
<v Speaker 7>likely have no idea, and this is a forever chemical

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<v Speaker 7>that is linked with cancer and other serious health effects.

1244
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<v Speaker 7>You know, these giant companies three M. DuPont have made

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<v Speaker 7>billions of dollars off of these forever chemicals that are

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<v Speaker 7>in everything from our waterproof jackets, our carpets, our couches,

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01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:01.560
<v Speaker 7>our nonstick pans, the takeout boxes that we use at restaurants.

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<v Speaker 7>And now a growing number of farmers are finding forever

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01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:09.439
<v Speaker 7>chemical contamination in their soil because essentially they were sold

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01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 7>a lie, which is that it was their civic duty

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01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 7>to spread treated human sewage, human wastewater and sludge onto

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01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.880
<v Speaker 7>their fields as fertilizer, that they were doing their civic

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01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 7>duty by keeping it out of landfill because this stuff

1254
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 7>was too bad to put into landfill, and so why

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<v Speaker 7>not put it on American soil, And they did. Millions

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:35.359
<v Speaker 7>of cropland acres affected by this. And these forever chemicals

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<v Speaker 7>are called forever because they do not break down naturally.

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<v Speaker 7>So even a farmer who did this maybe once in

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<v Speaker 7>the seventies is now finding his land, his water, his cattle,

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<v Speaker 7>his cows, all of it is shot through with toxic

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<v Speaker 7>levels of forever chemicals. And forty eight out of fifty

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01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:57.359
<v Speaker 7>states are still potentially contaminating their land with fertilizer sludge

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01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 7>as we speak. It's a big story, Bill, and really

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01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.000
<v Speaker 7>one that all of us should care about, and this

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01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.359
<v Speaker 7>is going to change state by state with us putting

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01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:08.520
<v Speaker 7>pressure you and saying we don't want this on our

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01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:10.439
<v Speaker 7>land anymore, we don't want this on our soil, we

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01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:11.640
<v Speaker 7>don't want this for our farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of known as p fass. I almost can't

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01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:17.840
<v Speaker 1>say all the words, but just if you can google

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01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 1>forever chemicals, it pops up. And one of the articles

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01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of faith is bottled water, and of course the water

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01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 1>out of the faucet. Nobody wants to drink water out

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01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of the faucet. After you and I have gotten together

1275
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.880
<v Speaker 1>on these issues and the lawyer two years ago. That's

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01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 1>all I drink is water from the faucet. I will

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01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 1>not buy bottled water because that's a small part of

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01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the problem, but it exists. We think we're doing something

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01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.840
<v Speaker 1>right by getting bottled water, and that in reality we're

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01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 1>doing something wrong getting bottled water.

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01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 3>The water out of the faucet is always better.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that fair to say, Oh, it's so hard, Bill?

1283
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:52.960
<v Speaker 7>I mean, when you drink bottled water, you run into

1284
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 7>issues with the microplastics and the endocrine disruptors, the contaminants

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01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:01.560
<v Speaker 7>that are in the bottled water, and you know the

1286
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.000
<v Speaker 7>frebber chemicals that are in that water as well. But

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01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 7>unfortunately prebber chemicals have become so pervasive through our environment

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01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 7>because of corporate greed that it's in our it's in

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01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 7>the tap water as well. And the EPA has just

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01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 7>started setting at maximum contaminant levels for our tap water.

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01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.159
<v Speaker 7>But this is a long time coming. It's you really

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01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 7>need to unfortunately, and I interviewed the EPA about this

1293
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.720
<v Speaker 7>was not impressed with the answer. They say, it basically

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01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:31.680
<v Speaker 7>is incumbent upon you, the American individuals who call your

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01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 7>water district and say, oh, hey, are cancer causing chemicals

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01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 7>in my water and that is so unfair. And I

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01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.000
<v Speaker 7>said this to the EPA administrator I interviewed. I was like,

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01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 7>how can you tell me, like how did the horse

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01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.720
<v Speaker 7>leave the barn? You know, fifty years ago on this

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01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.439
<v Speaker 7>and now you're telling me I have to call the

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01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 7>water district to make sure the water stakes to drink it.

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01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:55.039
<v Speaker 7>It it really tear It makes you want to tear

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01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 7>your hair out, Bill, honestly, it really does.

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01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I want to get onto the raip club in the

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01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:02.560
<v Speaker 1>California presence before before we do that, was there guilty

1306
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.399
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that Dow Chemicals etc.

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01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Fifty years ago? Did they know or not know what

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01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:09.199
<v Speaker 3>they were doing?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm so glad that you asked this question, Bell, because

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01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 7>part of this investigation was us. And by the way,

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01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:17.880
<v Speaker 7>people can still watch this, and I encourage you to

1312
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 7>watch it. It's on YouTube if you search Growing Broke,

1313
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Growing Broke, you can watch the full investigation. You will

1314
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 7>meet the farmers impacted by this, and you will find

1315
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.720
<v Speaker 7>out how you can protect yourself and your family. We

1316
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:35.000
<v Speaker 7>go through the paper trails that shows that three M.

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01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:39.920
<v Speaker 7>DuPont and others new decades upon decades ago that this

1318
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:43.039
<v Speaker 7>was potentially toxic to people. Then they saw that it

1319
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 7>started to build up in human blood. And Aaron Brockovich,

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01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 7>the Aaron Brockovich, the one played by Julia robertson that movie,

1321
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:55.479
<v Speaker 7>the Huge activist, says, this is the shell game. This

1322
01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 7>is them covering up. This is lies in deceit the

1323
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 7>years so that they could continue to make billions in profits.

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01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 7>And by the time the EPA gave them a slap

1325
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 7>on the wrist, Bill, it was a drop in the bucket.

1326
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 7>They had made their money already at the expense of

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01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 7>all of us. And I get my blood tested on

1328
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:18.359
<v Speaker 7>camera in this special as well, because Bill, I have

1329
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 7>tried so hard. I do all the things I eat organic,

1330
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:24.000
<v Speaker 7>and I have siltiered water, and I switched out my

1331
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.039
<v Speaker 7>dental flocks because all of our dental flocks is coded

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01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.199
<v Speaker 7>in this forever chemical that is the wax on our

1333
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:34.039
<v Speaker 7>dental flucks. And still I have moderate levels of this

1334
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:36.279
<v Speaker 7>in my blood, enough to put me at risk for

1335
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 7>breast cancer and all kinds of other issues. Through no

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01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 7>fault of my own, Bill, and through no fault of

1337
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 7>your own either. This is just living a normal life

1338
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:48.319
<v Speaker 7>in the United States. And these chemical companies have a

1339
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:49.359
<v Speaker 7>lot to answer for.

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01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Have they because at this point there's big judgments mesa

1341
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.720
<v Speaker 1>drop in the bucket. But I would anticipate that they

1342
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.640
<v Speaker 1>still have made billions of dollars. But secondly, here we

1343
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 1>are in May of twenty twenty five, are they still

1344
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:03.439
<v Speaker 1>doing it?

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.760
<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's so fascinating. So you know, they have made

1346
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.479
<v Speaker 7>various pledges that they will try to I mean three

1347
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 7>M for example, got back to us and said they

1348
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.800
<v Speaker 7>will try to discontinue use of pfast across their portfolio

1349
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.720
<v Speaker 7>by the end of twenty twenty five. They've already made

1350
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 7>their money and this is already in the pipeline, and

1351
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 7>other companies continue to make money from this. But also

1352
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:27.319
<v Speaker 7>what's really interesting is these things that are touted as

1353
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:31.079
<v Speaker 7>huge successes. For example, you know in twenty twenty three

1354
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:34.600
<v Speaker 7>there was a multi billion dollar federal settlement over this

1355
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 7>contamination in our nation's tap water, already making their way

1356
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 7>into our US public drinking water systems. But Patrick McRoy,

1357
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 7>an epidemiologist, told us they are rushing to try to

1358
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 7>settle things before the full scope of the problem is

1359
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:53.439
<v Speaker 7>even understood. On its face, it sounds like a victory.

1360
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:54.159
<v Speaker 4>It is not.

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01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.199
<v Speaker 7>There is a reason these giant companies are settling all

1362
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.359
<v Speaker 7>of these water contamination lawsuits in the tap water because

1363
01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:03.880
<v Speaker 7>we have no idea how large this problem actually is.

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01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, the YouTube growing broke pe fast as is right there.

1365
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.079
<v Speaker 1>And lastly, is there anything you can do if you

1366
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 1>can't protect yourself because of dental flaws, because of things

1367
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that we want water bottles, because of the skillets, the utensils.

1368
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 1>How do we protect ourselves today? Is there a way

1369
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 1>actually protecting yourself?

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01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:31.359
<v Speaker 7>It really comes down to so two things. On a

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01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 7>macro level. Aaron Brockovich and others say, you need to

1372
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 7>every time you have the opportunity to vote for something,

1373
01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:43.640
<v Speaker 7>and you can vote against pludging our farmland because it

1374
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:45.560
<v Speaker 7>is such a tragedy Bill. And I mean these are

1375
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:49.720
<v Speaker 7>farmers who are multi generation farmers, right. I mean his

1376
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 7>great great granddaddy cleared the land and now he's going

1377
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:56.600
<v Speaker 7>to hold a bankruptcy auction because he can't afford to

1378
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 7>hold on to the land. These are the farmers that

1379
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:02.199
<v Speaker 7>I met who have been destroyed this and we collectively

1380
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:04.560
<v Speaker 7>have to stand up not only for our own health,

1381
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:06.840
<v Speaker 7>for our children's health. But that is not enough, but

1382
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 7>for the American farmers who are completely being gutted by this.

1383
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:13.439
<v Speaker 7>So macro level, anytime you have an opportunity to it

1384
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 7>sounds court canned and corny, but it's true. Call your

1385
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 7>representative say you're not going to stand for this anymore.

1386
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 7>That anytime there is legislation that has to do with

1387
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.720
<v Speaker 7>fledging and continuing to poison our farmland, anytime there has

1388
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:27.840
<v Speaker 7>anything to do with Forever chemicals in our drinking water,

1389
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:29.319
<v Speaker 7>that you are going to stand up and make your

1390
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:32.319
<v Speaker 7>voice heard. On a micro level, there are things you

1391
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:36.319
<v Speaker 7>can do that can significantly reduce your exposure, and unfortunately

1392
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.720
<v Speaker 7>it comes to these very annoying individual choices. A switching

1393
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 7>out that dental floss is really important, and I am

1394
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:46.640
<v Speaker 7>not sponsored by any of these people. I have found

1395
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.520
<v Speaker 7>one that works for me. It's called desert Essence, and

1396
01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 7>they wax with something else other than Forever chemicals. B

1397
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 7>What you cook in really matters. You want to switch

1398
01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 7>if you can to stainless steel, you want to switch

1399
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 7>to cast iron. Anything that says it's a nonstick coating

1400
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.880
<v Speaker 7>you should regard with a lot of suspicion. And then

1401
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.439
<v Speaker 7>you can install and under the SINC filter in your

1402
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.359
<v Speaker 7>home for your main source of drinking water that will

1403
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 7>specifically target forever chemicals. I can't I cannot say Bill

1404
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:21.840
<v Speaker 7>that it is not ridiculous that it comes down to

1405
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.640
<v Speaker 7>us having to shell out a few hundred dollars to

1406
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:28.039
<v Speaker 7>prioritize doing this. It's not right. But if this is

1407
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:29.800
<v Speaker 7>something you care about and you want to make sure

1408
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:31.680
<v Speaker 7>every time you turn on your tap that you have

1409
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.640
<v Speaker 7>clean water, there are several companies out there. I personally

1410
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:39.279
<v Speaker 7>use one called Hydraviv. Again, I am zero percent sponsored

1411
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:41.039
<v Speaker 7>by them, and they did not give me any sort

1412
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.840
<v Speaker 7>of discount on my unit. You enter your zip code

1413
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 7>and they match it with your water district report so

1414
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 7>that they give you a filter that specifically targets maybe

1415
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 7>the casium, maybe the free or chemicals that are high

1416
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:56.319
<v Speaker 7>in your area. These are the simple things you can

1417
01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 7>do to try to reduce your exposure, and it's not fair.

1418
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.720
<v Speaker 7>You should do it, and you should do it, mad Bill,

1419
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.359
<v Speaker 7>because it is through no fault of your own. It

1420
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:10.760
<v Speaker 7>is entirely through corporate corporate greed, and also federal level negligence.

1421
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.960
<v Speaker 7>Because Aaron Brokovic says, you know, EPA, where have you been?

1422
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 7>Where were you as all of this was happening about Bill.

1423
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:20.359
<v Speaker 7>I talked about this all day.

1424
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>About five minutes remaining. The rape club prison system in California.

1425
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I've read your report on this. It's sickening, it's disgusting,

1426
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>hard enough to go to prison, but it passed around

1427
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 1>like like a bottle of wine in prison among the guards.

1428
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Explain the results of your report on the on the

1429
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>inside the California rape Club prison.

1430
01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:42.960
<v Speaker 7>It is such an important story and I'm so glad

1431
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:45.159
<v Speaker 7>it is coming to light in this way. This is

1432
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 7>a prison in California. It's called FCI Dublin, but it

1433
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:54.119
<v Speaker 7>was better known as the rape Club, and something unprecedented happened.

1434
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:57.439
<v Speaker 7>We know that sexual abuse happens all across the country

1435
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:01.680
<v Speaker 7>in our prisons, but the the a sexual abuse was

1436
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:05.840
<v Speaker 7>so rampant, was so egregious that the US government last

1437
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 7>year actually paid out nearly one hundred and sixteen million

1438
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.079
<v Speaker 7>dollars to more than a hundred of these female inmates

1439
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 7>to settle their lawsuits. I spoke with these inmates. They

1440
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 7>tell me the abuse was everywhere. It was in the cells,

1441
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:25.359
<v Speaker 7>in the hallways, even the prison church was not safe.

1442
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:27.960
<v Speaker 7>We speak with one woman in particular, Windy Ponzo, who

1443
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 7>alleges abuse at the hands of the prison chaplain. Four times.

1444
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 7>She says she was at rock bottom. She turned to faith,

1445
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 7>she turned to God, she went to the prison church.

1446
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:42.159
<v Speaker 7>She was abused by him terribly. Four times. We speak

1447
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 7>with six of these women, and you know their stories

1448
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.840
<v Speaker 7>are going to stay with me forever because when they

1449
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.960
<v Speaker 7>tried to report the abuse, they were silenced. Some of

1450
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:53.680
<v Speaker 7>them thrown into solitary confinement. We speak with a woman

1451
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:56.720
<v Speaker 7>who was beaten by a group of guards. She comes

1452
01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.239
<v Speaker 7>to the warden. The man at the very top is

1453
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.720
<v Speaker 7>standing taking photos of her naked body. She has literal

1454
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 7>bootprints bruises on her body for months, and they throw

1455
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:09.079
<v Speaker 7>her into solitary confinement for seven and a half months,

1456
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.000
<v Speaker 7>and they tell her family that she was dead. She

1457
01:20:13.159 --> 01:20:15.760
<v Speaker 7>tells me that her husband passed away thinking that she

1458
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.319
<v Speaker 7>had died in prison, and they told them they couldn't

1459
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:23.680
<v Speaker 7>find her body. It is so egregious and really, I mean,

1460
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:25.920
<v Speaker 7>you will hear all of these stories in their own

1461
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.399
<v Speaker 7>words again, They'll stay with me forever. There's another woman

1462
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.279
<v Speaker 7>who was abused by the medical officer. She says she

1463
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 7>has to get a shot every couple weeks for an

1464
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:39.159
<v Speaker 7>autoimmune disorder. She goes in for her shot and in

1465
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:42.359
<v Speaker 7>the most graphic details she describes what happened to her.

1466
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:47.560
<v Speaker 7>You could hear her heartbeat in her voice as she

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<v Speaker 7>was telling this story. And the issue that continues, and

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<v Speaker 7>one of the main reasons they wanted to come forward

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01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:59.359
<v Speaker 7>is twofold. One is that eight correctional officers, including the

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<v Speaker 7>chaplain and Scooting, the ward and other guards, a man

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01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.960
<v Speaker 7>who worked as a cook, have been charged for this.

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<v Speaker 7>They have all either pled guilty or were found guilty

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01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.960
<v Speaker 7>and sentenced. The very last of them, the most notorious

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01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:13.439
<v Speaker 7>of them. And I hope that I can say this

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01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:15.439
<v Speaker 7>on your show because this is his name, this is

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01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:20.560
<v Speaker 7>his nickname, is Darryl Dirty Dick Smith and he just

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01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:23.439
<v Speaker 7>a couple of weeks ago his trial took place. Women

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01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:27.560
<v Speaker 7>came forward, sitting fifteen twenty feet away from him, looking

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01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:29.720
<v Speaker 7>him in the eye as he smirked at them as

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01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:34.079
<v Speaker 7>they told their story. He maintains his innocence and all

1481
01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:37.880
<v Speaker 7>the information was presented on what he allegedly did, and

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01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:41.039
<v Speaker 7>it ended in a mistrial. A jury could not come

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01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:45.960
<v Speaker 7>to a consensus, and one of the community activists tells

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01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:48.840
<v Speaker 7>me and several of the women tell me. Obviously, this

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01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:50.600
<v Speaker 7>is devastating for them. They're going to have to do

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01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.479
<v Speaker 7>this all again. Anew coming up in August or September,

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01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:58.760
<v Speaker 7>that they really struggled with jury selection. That there were

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01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:01.199
<v Speaker 7>ten men on the jury two women at the end

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01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:04.359
<v Speaker 7>of the day, and that is because they eliminated any

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01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:07.359
<v Speaker 7>of the female jurors who had either been sexually assaulted

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01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 7>themselves or knew or loved anybody who had ever been

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01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:13.279
<v Speaker 7>sexually assaulted. And so at the end of the day

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01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.920
<v Speaker 7>they could only find two, Bill, they could only find

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01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 7>two women who fit that description, which I mean, was

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01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:24.960
<v Speaker 7>this dad statement for our country that that is the.

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01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Case and Natasha and that particular case. Did those women

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<v Speaker 3>go back to the prison after they testified, they met.

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<v Speaker 7>Me, they went they went with me to the prison

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01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:38.720
<v Speaker 7>and walked those grounds with me, and it was just

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<v Speaker 7>the real experience. And you can see that in the investigation.

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01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:44.520
<v Speaker 7>It's up on the podcast The Truth of the Matter,

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01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:47.239
<v Speaker 7>and you can also watch it on News Nations YouTube page.

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01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:49.479
<v Speaker 7>And finally, Bill, I just want to say something that

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01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:53.640
<v Speaker 7>we're uncovering. This prison was shut down abruptly at the

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01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:55.880
<v Speaker 7>end of last year. It was shut down in a

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01:22:55.960 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 7>move that the judge described as ill conceived. It's on

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01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:04.039
<v Speaker 7>its face again, it sounds like a positive thing. This

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01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 7>prison was obviously shot through with this abuse. It should

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01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 7>be shut down. But the about six hundred women who

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01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:15.399
<v Speaker 7>were there were scattered to more than a dozen facilities

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01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.319
<v Speaker 7>across the country. A many of their families can no

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01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:22.279
<v Speaker 7>longer visit them. But b were uncovering that the retaliation

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01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 7>is so egregious and rampant that is continuing in these

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01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 7>new facilities that these women are reporting having food with hell,

1515
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.880
<v Speaker 7>they're reporting being thrown into solitary confinement, and they're reporting

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01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 7>that the rapes are continuing. When these correctional officers learn

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01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:40.560
<v Speaker 7>that they come from FCI Dublin, the rape club prison,

1518
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:44.520
<v Speaker 7>the rape club prison, because they spoke out, because they

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01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.479
<v Speaker 7>turned in their colleagues. So we are going to continue

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01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.600
<v Speaker 7>following the threat of that story. These women tell me

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01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 7>that FCI Dublin was not a bad apple. Most of

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01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.640
<v Speaker 7>these women had been passed around to a few prisons,

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01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:58.439
<v Speaker 7>so they know they've been to multiple prisons here and

1524
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.119
<v Speaker 7>by the way, all of these women in prison for

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01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:04.840
<v Speaker 7>nonviolent crimes, mostly on drug charges, and they say that

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01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:07.199
<v Speaker 7>it is not a bad apple. It is happening in

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01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:11.439
<v Speaker 7>every single facility across this country. They say that we

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01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:13.880
<v Speaker 7>know that we did a crime, we know that we

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01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.560
<v Speaker 7>deserve to be in here to serve our time, but

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01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:20.439
<v Speaker 7>we do not deserve this. We do not deserve assault

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01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:24.479
<v Speaker 7>after assault, rape after rape, to be silenced, to have

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01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:29.960
<v Speaker 7>our prison sentences extended, to be overincarcerated, if we report this,

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01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 7>to be thrown in solitary, if we report Bill, It's

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01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.199
<v Speaker 7>been a real honor to meet these women and tell

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01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.439
<v Speaker 7>their stories, and I really encourage people to check it out.

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01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:43.039
<v Speaker 1>The truth of the matter is the is the report

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01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>news Nation. Natasha Zoovez, you're doing the Lord's work. Congratulations

1538
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:52.079
<v Speaker 1>on the Emmy nominations. On YouTube, Growing Broke is the

1539
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>p fast stories about Forever Chemicals and Natasha, thank you

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01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>for coming on again. Let's do it again in a

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01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:01.039
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. And Natasha a great American. Thank you

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01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>very much.

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<v Speaker 7>It's always a pleasure to speak with you. Bill, thank

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01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:05.439
<v Speaker 7>you so much for the work that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>God Bushell, let's continue with more Today's tube paste So does.

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<v Speaker 3>City CD check quist Toco see than be showing every date?

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01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Is you know hey?

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<v Speaker 7>Question?

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01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Though it's been a feature the dou Beer.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell, Hell, hello.

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01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 6>Bye, I'm broadcasting.

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01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>The motto is speak left, but live right. I know

1553
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>many liberals rocket clubs that the segment got me into.

1554
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>That indicate whenever I talk to some of these liberals,

1555
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they they speak liberal, but they live right, which is

1556
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>they belong to private clubs, send their kids to places

1557
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like Deer Park or Saint X great private schools in

1558
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a sense, and all of a sudden they speak they

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01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>speak left, but they live right.

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01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Have you noticed that?

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01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:06.159
<v Speaker 6>And I have a sight here.

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01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:08.079
<v Speaker 3>You can bet on this. Are you ready for this one?

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01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>On the Pope, the Pope. We got the Pope. I

1565
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.079
<v Speaker 3>got the poly market odds right here, I'm looking at him.

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01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.199
<v Speaker 6>You can bet. We supposed to speak secretive.

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01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:20.880
<v Speaker 3>That's secretive. Are you you have sources inside the Sistine Chapel?

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01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.319
<v Speaker 9>Yes, but tell me what's going on though, I'm saying so,

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01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:25.760
<v Speaker 9>I mean, look, this is just the betting odds, which,

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01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.720
<v Speaker 9>by the way, the polymarket winners have predicted what the

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01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:33.600
<v Speaker 9>Canadian presidential election a couple we're Prime minister a couple

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01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 9>weeks ago. Obviously the presidential election last year with Donald

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01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:39.359
<v Speaker 9>Trump and picked him. So this is a good accurate

1574
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:45.039
<v Speaker 9>so it's saying that Pietro Perlin is the favorite at

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01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:45.720
<v Speaker 9>thirty percent.

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01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Is the pizza guy.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's the Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 9>Antonio Talgay no idea nineteen percent, mateo Zupi ten and

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01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.000
<v Speaker 9>you been some other guy I can't pronounce his name.

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01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.119
<v Speaker 6>Nine percent. Well, you can bet it.

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01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Right now I'm looking still there's no smoke and they're

1582
01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>five hours, So right now it's like seven forty two.

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01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.239
<v Speaker 3>In the fact, you need two thirds of the cardinals

1584
01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>to win.

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01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>They have an afghand there who's a cardinal that is

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01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a secret cardinal that no one told about because.

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01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Of his safety. Could he become a pope if he's

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01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:21.800
<v Speaker 3>an a morphidite?

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01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:23.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't think so.

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01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:26.159
<v Speaker 9>But we had a guy on you last week that

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01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:28.119
<v Speaker 9>talked about the whole He was really good. He had

1592
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:30.600
<v Speaker 9>talked about the whole ceremony and all that, and I

1593
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.000
<v Speaker 9>asked him the question. I would say, a lot of

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01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:36.640
<v Speaker 9>Catholics that I know, and presumably Catholics you know, weren't

1595
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.800
<v Speaker 9>exactly happy with Pope Francis a right, a little more

1596
01:27:40.079 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 9>a little too liberal, not exactly outspoken enough on Catholic

1597
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:47.319
<v Speaker 9>dog was like, you know, abortion and Benedict. Right, So

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01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.560
<v Speaker 9>do you think the next pope will be more yes,

1599
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:52.680
<v Speaker 9>liberal liberal? I think the next part will be uh well,

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01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:55.680
<v Speaker 9>but why would they do that when when Poularly Catholics

1601
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.720
<v Speaker 9>want someone that's a little more prounded in conservatism.

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01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.359
<v Speaker 6>Well he appointed Francis appointed what one hundred and thirty

1603
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:02.319
<v Speaker 6>seven cargo.

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01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>One d and thirty stacked the deck something like you

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01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>got two thirds he appointed? Yeah, because they represent his philosophy.

1606
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:10.479
<v Speaker 1>Stacked the deck, Yes, it did, so it could be

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01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>post friends, Sure a successor. That's pretty smart. Well, of course,

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01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.079
<v Speaker 1>what kind of like a president appoint in federal judges?

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01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 4>Right?

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01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>And then those only ones you can pick from? Pick

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01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>from those? So hell, I don't know. But how did

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01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Harrison City Council. I talked, I texted with you. Do

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01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>you get rid of the ones that wanted advancement in

1614
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>too many houses?

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01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.479
<v Speaker 9>The ones that were in favor of the housing expansion

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01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:33.920
<v Speaker 9>that nobody wanted. They did not make the cut top four,

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01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:37.880
<v Speaker 9>go on to November. Is the house ones that were

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01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 9>prominent that.

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01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.119
<v Speaker 3>It absolutely is. They say you drive by it ever

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01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:41.800
<v Speaker 3>twice a day.

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01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>You kind of mador chops in Green Township against public

1622
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>housing d then you move Dan, then you move further out,

1623
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and now you make your chops by opposing private housing.

1624
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:54.600
<v Speaker 3>So you aposos. I oppose private housing that doesn't have

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01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.039
<v Speaker 3>a plan. There is no plan. It does not fit

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01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>into the fabric of what the community is. If you're

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01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>rich Pece police not rich people. This is a rural bunch.

1628
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.279
<v Speaker 9>Harrison is still rich and his heart is still a

1629
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:09.279
<v Speaker 9>little bit more of a rural bunch. A little more space,

1630
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 9>houses stacked, you know, two feet from each other. How

1631
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:14.199
<v Speaker 9>much of that you don't want that?

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01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Can you spend three hundred thousand in a nice house

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01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:17.359
<v Speaker 3>in Harrison?

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01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So look at him, Look at you. Yeah, you got

1636
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the pond of rose out there. Though you have your

1637
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>sheep and your cows.

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01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:28.039
<v Speaker 9>You know, you got the goats like bats. By the way,

1639
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:31.680
<v Speaker 9>the little rocks, the little So this is a true story.

1640
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:33.640
<v Speaker 9>So the little rocks. If you saw my Twitter, you

1641
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:36.880
<v Speaker 9>saw it, say turtle two days ago, find a baby

1642
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:39.560
<v Speaker 9>box turtle And I mean that sucker was you know,

1643
01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:42.039
<v Speaker 9>about the size of you know, two silver dollars, right,

1644
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:43.159
<v Speaker 9>and just made their day.

1645
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.119
<v Speaker 3>So of course, like the last five days they got

1646
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>in a box.

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01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.560
<v Speaker 9>I'm like, look, we gotta let the turtle go, and

1648
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:52.239
<v Speaker 9>he's like, like just scraping with all he's got trying

1649
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:55.000
<v Speaker 9>to get out of this thing. So just ten minutes ago,

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01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.520
<v Speaker 9>Kelly calls me and says, if you tell me the truth,

1651
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:01.760
<v Speaker 9>you won't be in trouble on Oh boy, Oh that

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01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:03.880
<v Speaker 9>was a bad opener. She said, did you let the

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01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.960
<v Speaker 9>turtle go? I said no, I would wouldn't do that

1654
01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:09.039
<v Speaker 9>to you or the kids without telling me. She's like, well,

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01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.319
<v Speaker 9>the turtle is gone. It's somewhere in the house.

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01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:12.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, nice.

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01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.319
<v Speaker 3>So there's a baby box turtle on the loose in

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01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:18.159
<v Speaker 3>the Boyman Ponderosa somewhere.

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01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:22.000
<v Speaker 9>Oh boy, that's bad. We gotta find it because at

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01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.039
<v Speaker 9>least it's not a snake, I mean a turtle.

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01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:25.000
<v Speaker 6>That's good.

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01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:25.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't speaking about betting. I'm glad you brought it up.

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01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine sent this to me. The website

1665
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.319
<v Speaker 1>is Jay and Jay superboost dot com. One to one

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01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:40.159
<v Speaker 1>odds that the democracy will end. There'll be no voting

1667
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in America beginning in twenty twenty nine. The maximum money

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01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you can put up is one million dollars, but it's

1669
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.119
<v Speaker 1>reverse one to one hundred, So if you put up

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01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.479
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars and you're right, you get batter.

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01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:51.079
<v Speaker 3>What is this group?

1672
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:53.159
<v Speaker 1>What does this outfit? It's called the J and J

1673
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 1>super Boost. So you put up one hundred engine. Now

1674
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>if you do put up a million, you're gonna win,

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01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:09.039
<v Speaker 3>So that's saying that in twenty twenty six Trump So

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01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 3>they're saying there'll be.

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01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>No election, no elections Americas, and he's going to stay

1680
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.399
<v Speaker 1>in office. He's going to declare martial law and Trump

1681
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>will be president for life. El Duce, we'll call him

1682
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:18.159
<v Speaker 1>El Duce.

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01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Now that's the easiest bet era. Of course we'll be voting.

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01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:24.439
<v Speaker 9>But now I know, I mean I I don't bet

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01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:26.279
<v Speaker 9>a lot, but if I do, I bet a little

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01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:27.960
<v Speaker 9>to win a lot, not a lot to win a little.

1687
01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>And that makes sense? Does that make sense?

1688
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>No voting normally you bet a little to win a lot.

1689
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Here you bet a lot to win a little. Don't

1690
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>make any sense, Like man, a lot of stuff doesn't

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01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:37.079
<v Speaker 1>make any sense.

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01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:37.760
<v Speaker 6>And the leader of the.

1693
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Pope is the pizza guy. The first of four or

1694
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:41.000
<v Speaker 3>five letters.

1695
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.319
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, Pietro Perilyn is the leader. At thirty percent,

1696
01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:47.560
<v Speaker 9>say he's the pizza guy. You know that's uh, Pierre

1697
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:51.960
<v Speaker 9>Baptista Pizza Baha Philippines.

1698
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't say, can't say, but it's this insight from

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01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the Sistine Chapel itself.

1700
01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Is that what I was Wahington to. Dam Fox News

1701
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:02.479
<v Speaker 3>they had a little bit. They had cameras in that

1702
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:03.079
<v Speaker 3>was pretty cool.

1703
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:07.720
<v Speaker 9>You need two thirds of all those cardinals to agree,

1704
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:10.680
<v Speaker 9>and if they don't agree, then they put put the

1705
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:13.399
<v Speaker 9>little ballance in the in the fire and the blacks

1706
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:13.800
<v Speaker 9>was the.

1707
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Most famous chimney in America right there on the bottom right.

1708
01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:18.439
<v Speaker 6>I think they're gonna, you know who they're gonna pick,

1709
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:21.279
<v Speaker 6>Anthony Quinn the shoes of the Fishers. Wouldn't that be something?

1710
01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:22.000
<v Speaker 6>The Russian?

1711
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>How about the Afghan the guys, that's an amorphodite. Did

1712
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you see the movie The Conclave?

1713
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:28.479
<v Speaker 4>I did not.

1714
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>I hear it is you're ready, turtle in the.

1715
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>House unexpectedly and they do all this get together, you know, Okay,

1716
01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I got the big deal going on. And here comes

1717
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a meek looking guy with his paper saying he's a

1718
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 1>cardinal and from the high from Kabol, Afghanistan, and the

1719
01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>other cardinals said what and somehow the Secretary State looking

1720
01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>some record and damn the Pope just appointed this guy

1721
01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>from Afghanistan and kept it secret because if they made

1722
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>it public, he'd be killed. So he presents the papers

1723
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:07.039
<v Speaker 1>they let him in. Now the problem is the papers.

1724
01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:11.079
<v Speaker 1>He had the papers, but he's an amorphodite. And what

1725
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm saying? Am I saying that?

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01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:12.680
<v Speaker 7>Right?

1727
01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:16.399
<v Speaker 6>You are had exterior male stuff and interior female stuff.

1728
01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Talk about yes, you know, a very very very very

1729
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>rare condition.

1730
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:26.439
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to make it public before he said I

1731
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.279
<v Speaker 1>accept Now, well that happened, do you think no?

1732
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:31.039
<v Speaker 4>You know?

1733
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:31.399
<v Speaker 3>Think so?

1734
01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Also, the Sistine Chapel blew up, the terrors blew up

1735
01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:38.399
<v Speaker 1>the chapel, and as that happened, the wind of the

1736
01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit came down. That's when a light shone on

1737
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the on the cardinal cable from Afghanistan. Everyone said, he's

1738
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the guy. Now could that happen with that? Would that

1739
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:49.079
<v Speaker 1>be unusual?

1740
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Would you say? The Sistine Chapel blew up? Yes, it did.

1741
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>In the movie, you were worried. I was worried.

1742
01:33:58.680 --> 01:33:59.479
<v Speaker 6>There's the chimney.

1743
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Nothing is happening watching it and I'm thinking, this is

1744
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:05.239
<v Speaker 3>a movie. This is It's hilarious.

1745
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:07.079
<v Speaker 9>You can get betting nods on who will be the

1746
01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:11.319
<v Speaker 9>next pope and polymarket ain't wrong most of the time.

1747
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>You can bet on theracy ends, but it's reverse. You

1748
01:34:16.479 --> 01:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>put put up ten thousand to win one hundred.

1749
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Dollars, that's that's not smart. That's not smart. Democrat might

1750
01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:24.079
<v Speaker 3>do that, though, but.

1751
01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:26.960
<v Speaker 9>There's people that think that there will be no elections

1752
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.159
<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty nine, and they'll probably take that bet.

1753
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:29.640
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

1754
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You kind of speak liberal, but you live a conservative,

1755
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>and these people will make the bet.

1756
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:36.159
<v Speaker 3>They believe it.

1757
01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:45.159
<v Speaker 9>Liberals is grounded in ideas instead of hard facts. So

1758
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:47.920
<v Speaker 9>what you think, So you want to you want to

1759
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:50.840
<v Speaker 9>believe that you can have a society and not have

1760
01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:54.039
<v Speaker 9>police and everyone will just get along. But in the reality,

1761
01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:57.359
<v Speaker 9>in the real world, you actually need someone to keep order.

1762
01:34:57.880 --> 01:34:59.439
<v Speaker 9>You like to think you can just have an open

1763
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.359
<v Speaker 9>border and and none of the bad guys will come

1764
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:02.279
<v Speaker 9>over the bad guys.

1765
01:35:02.079 --> 01:35:03.239
<v Speaker 6>Will stay over there and everything.

1766
01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:04.800
<v Speaker 3>But in the rural gallery.

1767
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:07.920
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, you can think, and it'd be boy, it'd

1768
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 9>be just fantastic of it that worked out, which is

1769
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:13.439
<v Speaker 9>what most of them think. But they also know through

1770
01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:16.000
<v Speaker 9>experience that and how it worked out. So I'm gonna

1771
01:35:16.039 --> 01:35:20.039
<v Speaker 9>tell Mike your kids to go to this disastrous public school. Meanwhile,

1772
01:35:20.079 --> 01:35:22.119
<v Speaker 9>my kids is gonna go to this thirty thousand dollars

1773
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:23.119
<v Speaker 9>year elementary school.

1774
01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Keep the poor kids locked in terrible schools. I'm sending

1775
01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>my coat to sant Ursula or somehow.

1776
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.520
<v Speaker 9>You can, you know, you know, vote and talk and

1777
01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:34.560
<v Speaker 9>be about something that you don't actually stand for.

1778
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah does that make sense?

1779
01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:36.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1780
01:35:36.319 --> 01:35:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Not at all? No, not all.

1781
01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:40.399
<v Speaker 6>Say give me some sports, Willy. The Stoogitu reporters approb

1782
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:43.960
<v Speaker 6>service every local teme Star heating and air conditioning dealers

1783
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.560
<v Speaker 6>tamestar quality you could feel on the beautiful east Side

1784
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:51.359
<v Speaker 6>called Clement's Heating and Air At nine three seven, four

1785
01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:56.079
<v Speaker 6>four four forty four oh one Sports, we got a

1786
01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:58.199
<v Speaker 6>Red's update and another transaction.

1787
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Here we go.

1788
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:03.600
<v Speaker 6>The Reds have placed in field on Novelli novel NOELV.

1789
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:07.479
<v Speaker 6>Marte on the ten day injured list with a left

1790
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 6>oblique strain.

1791
01:36:09.239 --> 01:36:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, it sounds like Stevenson.

1792
01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:14.479
<v Speaker 6>They have recalled outfielder Reese Hines from TRIPA A Louisville,

1793
01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:17.640
<v Speaker 6>and mister Hines has hit like three home runs and

1794
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 6>three days for the bats.

1795
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>When are you gonna come in here?

1796
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.800
<v Speaker 9>Say one day and say the resident acquired sho hey

1797
01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:25.880
<v Speaker 9>Otani in a three person trade or something.

1798
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:28.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, twenty twenty nine, when the world comes to

1799
01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:32.720
<v Speaker 6>an end. Marte was scratched for the light up last

1800
01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 6>night because of pain in his left side.

1801
01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:36.479
<v Speaker 3>How do you get the pain?

1802
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, he was hit by a pitch apparently in Louisville

1803
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:42.720
<v Speaker 6>and didn't tell anybody. He hooked up with Robert Craft

1804
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:47.960
<v Speaker 6>and went to a massage. Parker coverage tonight six. Now

1805
01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:51.600
<v Speaker 6>he has recovered from that. I got to bring that

1806
01:36:51.720 --> 01:36:54.600
<v Speaker 6>stuff up. He recovered from the sash part.

1807
01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:55.960
<v Speaker 3>No one talks about that anything.

1808
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:00.680
<v Speaker 9>You said yesterday that Bill Belichick will never recovering from

1809
01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:04.640
<v Speaker 9>the short cover. But Robert Kraft, Hasson, Michael Jackson had

1810
01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:08.319
<v Speaker 9>a few or Michael Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, excuse me,

1811
01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:09.439
<v Speaker 9>had a few transgressions.

1812
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:14.399
<v Speaker 6>He bounced back, Yeah, ignorant uh. Game three of the

1813
01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:17.399
<v Speaker 6>Reds braced tonight six oh five. Sports Talk, Arnold Carriers,

1814
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:21.520
<v Speaker 6>Inside Pitch, Kelsey, Chevrolet Extra Ding Show After the Game.

1815
01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Now.

1816
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:24.319
<v Speaker 6>Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits and Hardy

1817
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:30.199
<v Speaker 6>thirteen locations in Northern Kentucky. Your man Rock Joey b

1818
01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:35.800
<v Speaker 6>arrived this morning out on the field for off season workouts.

1819
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Who is he dressed with?

1820
01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:40.119
<v Speaker 6>What is he wearing? Calm down? Who is he had.

1821
01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:42.319
<v Speaker 3>In the morning?

1822
01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:45.479
<v Speaker 6>He had his jersey on, shorts, shoes and a head band.

1823
01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Where's the hairstylist?

1824
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.159
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. His hair was kind of messed up

1825
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:52.880
<v Speaker 6>from the met gown burrows there. Jamar Chase his practice

1826
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:55.760
<v Speaker 6>a second day practicing. Yes, look he got the big contract. Yes,

1827
01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:59.479
<v Speaker 6>still showed up timp of the cap there Henderson. But

1828
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:06.479
<v Speaker 6>but ESPN Jeremy Jeremy. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports, Uh, there's

1829
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:11.079
<v Speaker 6>no update on the Hendrickson contract situation. And apparently the

1830
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:14.880
<v Speaker 6>two sides all right, the stalemate not good?

1831
01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>What do we do now?

1832
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:16.560
<v Speaker 4>Not good?

1833
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.560
<v Speaker 9>And we're putting a lot a lot of pressure on

1834
01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:23.760
<v Speaker 9>al Golden here, you know, some developmental type draft picks

1835
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:27.439
<v Speaker 9>from the roster that's not full of stars and possibly

1836
01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:29.560
<v Speaker 9>the lone star you have and not bringing him back.

1837
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>You're putting a lot of faith in him that he

1838
01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:34.520
<v Speaker 3>can turn this thing around. Like the Magic Man.

1839
01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Last year. Magic Man, he moves his hands around all

1840
01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:41.039
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden something happens, kind of like Clyde Bennett

1841
01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>had him on a couple hours ago.

1842
01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Your bunt, your buddy clide Bennett? What he say a lot?

1843
01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I said to him, you're not.

1844
01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Really going to contend your client did not commit this

1845
01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:55.479
<v Speaker 1>crime right when I can see as client committed it.

1846
01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, who they pull out car?

1847
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:01.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

1848
01:39:01.880 --> 01:39:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Did they?

1849
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:02.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

1850
01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Did they pulled him hitting it out of the car?

1851
01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I think, didn't you go to the hospital? Yeah?

1852
01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Today they weren't contending that. They were saying he was,

1853
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:16.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, reasonable.

1854
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:18.800
<v Speaker 9>Insanity kind of he's not willing to get I'm not

1855
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:22.239
<v Speaker 9>a lawyer, but like, if you're like passionately upset about

1856
01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:27.000
<v Speaker 9>something that is not that is not qualified as somebody blood.

1857
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 9>I don't think so, by the letter of the walls.

1858
01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:30.800
<v Speaker 9>Not a magic man.

1859
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:33.600
<v Speaker 3>You can do some magic tricks and all of a

1860
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>sudden things happen as well.

1861
01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:37.920
<v Speaker 6>Good luck.

1862
01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw the magic Man. He's doing some tricks with

1863
01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the Rubi's cube. He can solve a Rubik's cube in

1864
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>nine seconds. The Magic Man, he sings songs and everything.

1865
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Magic Man. Bring him in, Bring him got him in,

1866
01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Break him in twenty one? Bring big what's on the

1867
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Big Show today? If anything?

1868
01:39:58.039 --> 01:39:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Finding a turtle at this time, I got to find

1869
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:04.399
<v Speaker 6>turtle Runway is gonna call Critter get her rather the gate.

1870
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:06.000
<v Speaker 3>We have a pretty good story.

1871
01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:09.319
<v Speaker 9>A woman, you know, kind of went down the path

1872
01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:11.479
<v Speaker 9>of substance abuse and whatnot found help?

1873
01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Is this the lawyer?

1874
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.760
<v Speaker 9>Yes, that's very, very good story that they've had her

1875
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:17.680
<v Speaker 9>at four and you're coming on five. What are we

1876
01:40:17.720 --> 01:40:20.840
<v Speaker 9>going to talk about Jordan Hudson? I sim I have

1877
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:23.880
<v Speaker 9>other topics, but you're gonna somehow talk about Jordan Hudson.

1878
01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Robert, I'm gonna order that book.

1879
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:26.920
<v Speaker 6>By the way, I'm gonna order.

1880
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>His book, the order Winning, Yeah, winning? What you wanting

1881
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:32.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things right now? I bet segment give

1882
01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>me out of the Seuzere Fort.

1883
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:38.039
<v Speaker 6>Willie in honor of where's the Turtle and Rocky's House

1884
01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:44.479
<v Speaker 6>and Jordan Hudson. We leave she's there too, Yes, we

1885
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:50.439
<v Speaker 6>leave you with the immortal words of the Stein Report,

1886
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:52.880
<v Speaker 6>Live action.

1887
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Turtle Man, live action.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go his number. I need a calling, that's right,

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<v Speaker 6>call the Turtle Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I got his number to Harrison. He likes snapping turtles.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't you get in a fight with a chainsaw a

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<v Speaker 3>couple years ago and he lost He lost his teeth,

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<v Speaker 3>so you fight with a chainsaw, you hardly have a win.

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<v Speaker 3>We lose on seven hundred w l