Speaker 1: Do we have too many digital modes digital voice modes
Speaker 1: for UHF VHF. I did a video about this not
Speaker 1: too long ago and had some really really interesting comments
Speaker 1: on that video that I wanted to address in a
Speaker 1: new video. Some of these most of these comments are
Speaker 1: very good. They're very insightful, very thought provoking. Some of
Speaker 1: them I do not agree with, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: do a follow up to see what you guys had
Speaker 1: to say to kind of continue this conversation. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Today's video is sponsored by him Radio Prep save a
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Speaker 1: is the video that I recorded in I posted this
Speaker 1: in December of twenty twenty four, and you can see
Speaker 1: this right here, and I've at the time of this recording,
Speaker 1: I've got about eighty nine hundred views on this video
Speaker 1: with over three hundred comments. I went back and looked
Speaker 1: at one of my previous videos just to kind of
Speaker 1: compare it, and the next highest view video that was
Speaker 1: newest in the lineup had about nine thousand views with
Speaker 1: two hundred comments. So, in other words, this video has
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of comments as compared to the number
Speaker 1: of views on it. It's been some very good discussion
Speaker 1: on this video and on this subject, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to address some of these here. You guys can go
Speaker 1: see this right here, and yes, I will be addressing this.
Speaker 1: I'll ask people, don't use DMR correctly. We want to
Speaker 1: know more about that. What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: A lot of people commented on that, so I'm making
Speaker 1: another video about that. That is not the video you're
Speaker 1: watching today. I wanted to start this video you're watching
Speaker 1: today with the simple underlying theme that I don't think
Speaker 1: we have too many digital voice modes. I think HAM
Speaker 1: radio is about innovation and we should be allowed to
Speaker 1: create more modes if we want to. That's basically the
Speaker 1: theme of the last video. And some people disagree with that,
Speaker 1: and some people agreed with that, and it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I think the discussion of this is more important than
Speaker 1: the topic itself, quite frankly, and this video you're watching
Speaker 1: right now is about the comments discussion on that last video.
Speaker 1: So let's switch over here. I'm gonna show you guys
Speaker 1: a couple of really good comments that I found on
Speaker 1: that video, and debt a screenshot of this one's from
Speaker 1: Tony Urusso, yes, we absolutely need a standard. You are
Speaker 1: ignoring some fundamental differences between digital voice on VHF UHF
Speaker 1: and our various digital modes on HF, because in that
Speaker 1: video I had compared the I had mentioned the fact
Speaker 1: that we don't have just one digital keyboard to keyboard
Speaker 1: mode on HF. We have PSK threety one and Riddy
Speaker 1: FT eight, FT four, JS call, and a bunch of
Speaker 1: different ones. So I had compared digital voice modes like DMR,
Speaker 1: d Star and Fusion to digital HF modes. First is
Speaker 1: that there's a difference in between digital modes and different radios.
Speaker 1: I can use the same radio for CW, Riddy FT eight, Olivia,
Speaker 1: and all sorts of other stuff. I don't have to
Speaker 1: buy a CW radio, a Ritty radio, or an FT
Speaker 1: eight radio. There isn't a single radio on the market
Speaker 1: that supports DSTARYSF, DMR, and M seventeen in the same device.
Speaker 1: If there were, that would certainly change some things, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. And then he goes into the set
Speaker 1: major point. So here's the problem with that type of thinking. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is not the fault of the mode. That is
Speaker 1: not the fault of the mode. First of all, you
Speaker 1: don't have an FT eight radio. No radios do FT
Speaker 1: eight natively. Radios have built in sound. Some radios will
Speaker 1: do ritty natively to have a RTTY radio teletype mode
Speaker 1: built in to the radio. Most of them have just
Speaker 1: what's called a data mode, like a seventy three hundred
Speaker 1: and FTDX ten. You put it in data upper sideban
Speaker 1: or data you sometimes, and that's what you use with
Speaker 1: the built in sound card in the radio to connect
Speaker 1: to a computer. And then your computer program is what
Speaker 1: does the mode on HF FT eight, FT four, PSK
Speaker 1: thirty one JSA call whatever. So your digital modes aren't
Speaker 1: really built in to the radio at all. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: built into a computer program that you're running externally. Except
Speaker 1: for Riddy, not really a valid comparison there at number two.
Speaker 1: That's not the fault of the mode. Someone could build
Speaker 1: a radio that does DMR system fusion and P twenty
Speaker 1: five and d star and everything else. Someone could do that.
Speaker 1: Guess what, the hotspot guys already took care of that
Speaker 1: for you. Pistar, WPSD and open spot already do that.
Speaker 1: Why don't the radio manufacturers do it well because everyone
Speaker 1: wants you to buy their radio. So this is where
Speaker 1: we get into a little bit more of commercialization of
Speaker 1: amateur radio as compared to innovation of amateur radio. The
Speaker 1: rest of these comments I'm gonna show you is people arguing,
Speaker 1: people arguing with me because I argued with these I've
Speaker 1: got this guy and one other comment or that I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about today, and I'm arguing with them. Now,
Speaker 1: let me say this. I welcome your arguments. I don't
Speaker 1: think you guys should shut up and go away. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, I welcome your arguments. I thank
Speaker 1: you for your insight. You have given me more things
Speaker 1: to think about and more, quite frankly, more topics to
Speaker 1: make videos about. So I thank each and every one
Speaker 1: of you. I don't mean to discourage or disparage anyone
Speaker 1: in this video, Okay, that's not the purpose of this video.
Speaker 1: I'm not calling anyone out as saying no, you're wrong
Speaker 1: and you're an idiot. I'm not saying that. I'm saying
Speaker 1: I may not agree with you and you don't agree
Speaker 1: with me, and that's okay. This is a discussion we're
Speaker 1: doing here. So his first part in that is it's
Speaker 1: not valid because it's not the mode's fault. It's not
Speaker 1: dmr D star fusion's fault, that no one makes a radio.
Speaker 1: That's the manufacturer's fault. Okay, and it's not really valid
Speaker 1: to compare it to a computer program running on a computer.
Speaker 1: The second he goes on to say, the second major
Speaker 1: problem is because we're talking about VHFUHF and because of
Speaker 1: the laws of physics, that means we're heavily dependent on repeaters.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say heavily dependent is an accurate description. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of simplex activity that happens that maybe doesn't
Speaker 1: happen near you, but it does happen throughout the country,
Speaker 1: which are extremely financially expensive, time consuming, and real estate
Speaker 1: constrained physical built in infrastructure. I have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: Ham radio operators and been putting up repeaters in various
Speaker 1: locations since the sixties. Okay, for the last sixty freaking years,
Speaker 1: we've been putting repeaters up in various locations. Yeah it
Speaker 1: can be expensive, Yeah, it can be costly. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hey man, so is everything else. If you don't
Speaker 1: want to put up a repeater then don't put one up.
Speaker 1: If you want to get together with a group of
Speaker 1: friends or a club, put up a repeater. You don't
Speaker 1: have to bear all the expense yourself. I see what
Speaker 1: he's saying here, but I'm not sure that's a valid
Speaker 1: argument as to the point. Today, having to secure sites
Speaker 1: for a purchase, build and maintain four times as many
Speaker 1: repeaters is not feasible for the amateur radio community. So
Speaker 1: instead of getting a fragmented jumble of repeaters where you
Speaker 1: can only use a fraction of them, so the overall
Speaker 1: system sucks. There used to be a network of analog
Speaker 1: link repeater systems on nine ninety four in Wisconsin I
Speaker 1: could talk on while driving throughout the state. There's still
Speaker 1: analog repink analog link repeter systems in many states, including Texas.
Speaker 1: They recently decided to convert all of them to d Star,
Speaker 1: and since radio on the car doesn't support d Star,
Speaker 1: they're all completely useless hunks up scrap metal to me, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: that's again. Anybody can buy a d Star radio and
Speaker 1: you don't want to join in and on that. That's okay,
Speaker 1: But perhaps the reason they converted them from analog to
Speaker 1: d Stars because nobody was using them. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not familiar with this system. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about it. Someone who knows about the
Speaker 1: system can comment below. So he goes on to talk
Speaker 1: about a few other things in that aspect, and he's
Speaker 1: got some good points, But the first point was the
Speaker 1: main one I wanted to talk about, because he was like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't buy a radio that does all the modes. No,
Speaker 1: you can't. That's true, but that's not the mode's fault.
Speaker 1: That's not because the modes are incompatible. That's because the
Speaker 1: manufacturers have decided not to build such a thing. So
Speaker 1: moving on to the next one. Now, these next few
Speaker 1: are from the same person, and he and I kind
Speaker 1: of go back and forth on a few things here.
Speaker 1: But if this is again good discussion, imagine a world
Speaker 1: where you could buy a single digital cable radio and
Speaker 1: then anywhere you go you can use that radio on
Speaker 1: any digital cable repeaters you run into. Imagine not getting
Speaker 1: somewhere and finding out that neither of the two digital
Speaker 1: modes you purchased access to in the form of multiple
Speaker 1: radios that you may not even like for anything other
Speaker 1: than digital mode, you need Okay, you need to buy
Speaker 1: a different radio. In other words, you travel somewhere you
Speaker 1: have a digital mode, but all the repeaters in that
Speaker 1: area are a different digital mode. You need to buy
Speaker 1: a different radio you may not even like, just to
Speaker 1: use digital mode. That is a new community built around. Now.
Speaker 1: Explain to me again, how do you prefer the second scenario, please,
Speaker 1: or explain to me how two different digital modes big
Speaker 1: and bring enough to the table to make the second
Speaker 1: scenario worth it. Okay, so my response to him, which
Speaker 1: I'm going i'll read to you right here, is easy.
Speaker 1: Your analogy is flawed for one simple reason. Most people
Speaker 1: who use digital modes don't travel to other areas and
Speaker 1: use repeaters in that area. They use hotspots, which they
Speaker 1: take with them and can use anywhere on the Internet
Speaker 1: with the connection. Did you actually hear my thoughts on
Speaker 1: how people use DRMR incorrectly? That's one small example. If
Speaker 1: folks actually used repeaters when they travel, then your argument
Speaker 1: would be totally valid. And that's one of my things
Speaker 1: about the DMR networks is that they're based too much
Speaker 1: on hotspots. Again, I'm gonna make a second video about
Speaker 1: or third video or another video or continuation video, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it about how I think people
Speaker 1: use DMR incorrectly because a lot of you commented on that.
Speaker 1: But people don't travel to another state or another area
Speaker 1: in their state and think, oh, I'm going to use
Speaker 1: the d Star or DMR repeaters when I get down here.
Speaker 1: They use the hot spot that's in their vehicle. Now,
Speaker 1: should they be using the repeaters, Yes, that would be
Speaker 1: excellent if that actually happened, but I think that most
Speaker 1: of the time that doesn't happen. You've got a d
Speaker 1: Star radio in your truck, you're using a hot spot.
Speaker 1: When you're on a road trip. When you're traveling to
Speaker 1: another area, you're using a hot spot. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I use DMR repeaters in other areas. I've got Fusion
Speaker 1: and I've got d Star in my truck, but I
Speaker 1: don't have many repeaters for other areas programmed into them.
Speaker 1: So it great if people actually use it that way,
Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone does. Now. If you want
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Speaker 1: sponsoring this channel. He goes on to say, I will
Speaker 1: absolutely can see that you have more experience than me
Speaker 1: with and thus more knowledge of people who use digital.
Speaker 1: But I say it's strictly a positive if I could
Speaker 1: use any digital repeaters I bump into with a digital
Speaker 1: cable radio. And I'm still yet to hear a positive,
Speaker 1: a positive argument for having so many options other than
Speaker 1: it's better to have more options statement which I feel
Speaker 1: like holds up only if the options are different enough
Speaker 1: to be truly more options than not limitations. Okay, I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. I think most of us would agree. Now.
Speaker 1: He it goes on to say, in several of these comments,
Speaker 1: most people would agree with me. Actually, if you read
Speaker 1: the comments on this video, about half or more of
Speaker 1: the people agree with what I said, and about half don't.
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's a most in any scenario here. Okay,
Speaker 1: A lot of the comments were agreeing with my point
Speaker 1: of view on that video, and a lot of comments
Speaker 1: were agreeing with this point of view on the video.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say it's most one way or
Speaker 1: the other because I didn't go count him, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. But he insists that most people agree with him.
Speaker 1: I think he's wrong, but okay, let's move on. They
Speaker 1: don't give most of us more options. Instead, they give
Speaker 1: us less options in a given area of the planet.
Speaker 1: I don't know of anyone who has ever said I'd
Speaker 1: like to use dmrty ragchew with my buddy in XYZ,
Speaker 1: but Fusion is my choice for making contacts or anything
Speaker 1: like that. I do know people who say I wish
Speaker 1: I could use my DMR radio over XYZ, but there
Speaker 1: are but they're using ABC modes over there. I don't
Speaker 1: like these radios. Okay, those hotspots are nice when you
Speaker 1: have them at home or if you have a Myfi
Speaker 1: or something like that, but they are a tool for
Speaker 1: some use cases, not a solution for what we believe
Speaker 1: to be a problem. So you have explained that we
Speaker 1: are wrong. I didn't say you're wrong, I said, I
Speaker 1: disagreed with you, but you have not explained why we
Speaker 1: are wrong at all. Just more options isn't enough. Give
Speaker 1: us what is valuable about the options that makes it
Speaker 1: worth having so many radios that you can't talk to
Speaker 1: many other modes directly on digital. So those hotspots, he says,
Speaker 1: those hotspots are nice at home or if you have
Speaker 1: a Myfi or something, but they are a tool for
Speaker 1: some use cases, not a solution for what we believe
Speaker 1: to be a problem. Okay, two things on that number One,
Speaker 1: He's right, hotspots should not be a solution. The repeater
Speaker 1: network is a better network than a hotspot network anyway,
Speaker 1: so people should be using the repeater network for whatever
Speaker 1: mode they're using, including analog. The problem with that is
Speaker 1: that they don't. No one uses that. People carry hotspots
Speaker 1: with them everywhere. I do it. I do. I carry
Speaker 1: hotspot with I have an open spot with me when
Speaker 1: I'm on road trips in the truck, I have a
Speaker 1: hotspot with me all the time. I've got multiple hot spots.
Speaker 1: Most people who have a hotspot have more than one.
Speaker 1: Like cheetos, you can only eat one. Right. His point
Speaker 1: is would be a lot more valid if it was
Speaker 1: if it was actually true, and his point is not true.
Speaker 1: So that's it because people do use hotspots that way,
Speaker 1: and that's just the way it is, so let's move on.
Speaker 1: Then he goes on to talk about Josh's recently released
Speaker 1: video called the Real Reasons Repeaters Are Dead, which I
Speaker 1: had actually listened to and watched prior to this comment
Speaker 1: coming across my channel. So I will link to that
Speaker 1: video from somewhere in here. You guys, go watch that
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet. Josh interviews George from
Speaker 1: pac Tenna, George from hem Ray to a workbench and
Speaker 1: his assessment in a nutshell, He's got some really good
Speaker 1: points you guys should go listen to. But in a nutshell,
Speaker 1: he says that the repeaters are not dead. All of
Speaker 1: the people who used to use repeaters still use repeaters.
Speaker 1: They're just scattered between analog, D Star, DMR fusion, maybe
Speaker 1: some PEA twenty five, maybe some other modes, maybe some
Speaker 1: stuff n XDN. And you know what I say to that,
Speaker 1: I say good, because we've been hearing for years how
Speaker 1: dead the repeaters are, and if George is right, then
Speaker 1: the repeaters aren't dead at all. We've been hearing for
Speaker 1: years how AHEM radio is dying. Well, the number of
Speaker 1: people licensed getting licensed every year since two thousand and
Speaker 1: six proves that ham radio is not dying. There's more
Speaker 1: people licensed today than there ever has been in the
Speaker 1: history of the hobby, and the numbers continue to go
Speaker 1: up each week. We did have a shot in the
Speaker 1: arm in twenty twenty when a lot of people were
Speaker 1: stuck at home, a lot of more people got licensed overall,
Speaker 1: so the numbers dip back down in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: but then they started going back up again. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had the whole lockdown twenty twenty thing because of COVID. Sure,
Speaker 1: but it still doesn't change the fact that they're more
Speaker 1: licensed operators than there ever have been. And I've said
Speaker 1: that on numerous videos and people are like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but nobody is active. Well, if what George is saying,
Speaker 1: everybody is active, everybody's just spread out in different places
Speaker 1: so you don't notice it, to which I say, great,
Speaker 1: that means people are active. That means there is activity.
Speaker 1: That means there are people talking on different digital modes
Speaker 1: throughout the Internet, throughout the country, throughout different radio modes,
Speaker 1: and different locations including analog. Great. I think that's great. Okay,
Speaker 1: should we standardize everything just to get everyone back on
Speaker 1: the same frequency or same mode? Again, that's not something
Speaker 1: I would vote for. So you guys can go watch
Speaker 1: that video and check that out if you want to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the first paragraph of this statement and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to close it out with my final
Speaker 1: reply to this and see what you guys think. I
Speaker 1: think you just hit on what we are saying. Now,
Speaker 1: think about this. Do you think that Google would allow
Speaker 1: Spotify and Android devices if they believe users would still
Speaker 1: buy them if they were locked to YouTube music? Okay?
Speaker 1: First of all, Google doesn't own Android. I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of contention around that, but we are working
Speaker 1: on degoogling some Android phones. Okay, so Google doesn't own Android,
Speaker 1: and you can totally get an Android operating system to
Speaker 1: load Spotify. You can root it if nothing else and
Speaker 1: load what you want to. But I see what he's
Speaker 1: saying here. Okay, I see what he's saying here. Do
Speaker 1: you think Apple would not allow YouTube music app if
Speaker 1: the iPhone were just like Okay, I'll have an iPhone,
Speaker 1: but I also get my music from iTunes. Nope. I
Speaker 1: think history shows it's clearly that both Apple and Google
Speaker 1: love to do the vendor look in wherever they can
Speaker 1: and get by with and the only thing that keeps
Speaker 1: them from innovating in ways that benefit the users people
Speaker 1: voting in there is voting with their wallet. In other words,
Speaker 1: they're worried about making money and selling their own apps
Speaker 1: and products more than they are about innovating. That is true,
Speaker 1: and then he goes on to saying that is what
Speaker 1: we should be doing, that is what we need to
Speaker 1: be doing. No, we do not believe that Yazu is
Speaker 1: going to decide standardized DMR because they've carved out a
Speaker 1: little piece of the market for themselves that they believe incorrectly.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he and I agree on this, that
Speaker 1: they will make more money like that, we need to
Speaker 1: force people to become standardized. We need to do what
Speaker 1: Google and Apple are doing by forcing people to become standardized. Really,
Speaker 1: that's very anti that goes completely against the spirit of
Speaker 1: amateur radio and radio experimentation, completely against it. In fact,
Speaker 1: that's what my rebuttal to him. The last comment that
Speaker 1: I did, I says, who is we? I'm not with
Speaker 1: everyone since many of the comments on this video agreed
Speaker 1: with my viewpoints. He's getting a little bit he was.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I was getting a little bit heated,
Speaker 1: and I read his comments like he was too. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I thank this person for commenting on
Speaker 1: the video. You gave me some food for thought, and
Speaker 1: this is good discussion. So amateur radio doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be locked to any manufacturer, which is basically how it
Speaker 1: is already. We are not locked to Yazu, Icom or Kinwood.
Speaker 1: We are locked to d DVSI for the AMBI Code Act,
Speaker 1: everything except M seventeen. That is so, without the ability
Speaker 1: to innovate and create new modes on our own, M
Speaker 1: seventeen would not exist. M seventeen uses a codec called
Speaker 1: CODEC two, which is open source. Everything else uses a
Speaker 1: DVSI codec, whether it's IMBE or AMBE, some form of AMBE,
Speaker 1: it's a codec designed by DVSI, commercial commercial company, DVSI
Speaker 1: for commercial standards. Even d Star, even Fusion are all
Speaker 1: dependent on the dvs sidchip and it's not going to
Speaker 1: be completely open source because of that. M seventeen is
Speaker 1: the first thing that is actually completely open source. My
Speaker 1: next paragraph here says, Now, you might not agree with
Speaker 1: that viewpoint, but I've already explained it very clearly several times.
Speaker 1: Having a digital mode soup as you call it, is
Speaker 1: only possible if we have the ability to innovate and
Speaker 1: come up with new modes that are actually not locked
Speaker 1: to any manufacturers, such as M seventeen, which uses CODEC two. So,
Speaker 1: following through with your observation and opinion, if one manufacturer
Speaker 1: chose to lock everything down or the FCC did, open
Speaker 1: source projects like M seventeen would never exist. And in
Speaker 1: another part of the comment, I had asked him who
Speaker 1: gets to decide the standard? Who gets to decide the standard? Yazu,
Speaker 1: because they would choose fusion, we get rid of everything
Speaker 1: else icon they probably choose d Star. Kimwood might get
Speaker 1: on board with that, but although Kinwood makes d mar
Speaker 1: rados for their commercial customers, who gets to decide the FCC.
Speaker 1: The last thing we want is the FCC giving us
Speaker 1: more rules. Okay, we want the FCC to basically go
Speaker 1: away for the most part. Ham radio operators, like I've
Speaker 1: said in other videos, that have been self policing in
Speaker 1: the past, and to a certain degree that's a good thing, okay,
Speaker 1: and having the FCC do certain things is also a
Speaker 1: good thing. Having the A double ORL involved is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Which mode would you think they would choose?
Speaker 1: You want to give the A DOBLEL permission to choose
Speaker 1: us a mode, choose a mode for us, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're all gonna do. You're gonna force
Speaker 1: manufacturers to make a mode, or most likely the manufacturers
Speaker 1: just say, oh, I'm not gonna make that mode, so
Speaker 1: we're just gonna stop making digital radios and then you
Speaker 1: don't have anything. So who gets to decide what the
Speaker 1: standard mode is? I asked that question several times in
Speaker 1: that comment. I've asked that question to several other commenters
Speaker 1: on that video. Nobody's been able to answer me yet,
Speaker 1: not with an answer that makes any sense. Who gets
Speaker 1: to decide if we decided to get a standard mode?
Speaker 1: Who gets to decide what the standard mode is? The community?
Speaker 1: That's another one. That's a good one. I love that one.
Speaker 1: The community. There's an old joke that says, if you
Speaker 1: have three Hams living in a city, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: two Ham radio clubs in that same city. You can't
Speaker 1: agree on anything. The back and forth comments on this
Speaker 1: one video on this one YouTube channel about this one
Speaker 1: subject prove that we can't agree on anything. So no,
Speaker 1: the community's not gonna decide. Okay, you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: very split opinion from the community. A lot of guys
Speaker 1: are DMR. Look at the comments on that video. A
Speaker 1: lot of guys say DMR only. A lot of guys
Speaker 1: say I only use d Star. A lot of guys
Speaker 1: say Fusion is my choice. Other guys say I'm seventeen
Speaker 1: because it's truly open source, which it is. I don't
Speaker 1: want to decide. I do not want to. If you say, well, Jason,
Speaker 1: why don't you know, no, I decide that you should
Speaker 1: be able to do what you want to do, which
Speaker 1: is create another digital mode if you want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to decide. I don't think you should decide.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the power to the FCC,
Speaker 1: or to Yezu or Able orl. I don't want to
Speaker 1: give power to anybody to decide to limit what we
Speaker 1: can do in ham radio. I don't want to do that, Okay.
Speaker 1: I think it's innovation and if it's a good technology
Speaker 1: then people will use it, and if it's not then
Speaker 1: people won't use it. And I think that I think
Speaker 1: this is a good thing. I think discussions like this
Speaker 1: are a good thing. I know some of you are
Speaker 1: not going to agree with me. That's okay, it's all right,
Speaker 1: it's okay if you disagree with me. I have zero
Speaker 1: problems if you disagree with me. But if you do disagree,
Speaker 1: and you think we should have one digital mode digital
Speaker 1: voice mode standard DV mode digital voice again, we're talking
Speaker 1: about digital voice modes over VHFUHF and a lot of
Speaker 1: people came along and said, well, yeah, you can use
Speaker 1: fusion on HF two. Yeah you can't. It's still a
Speaker 1: digital voice mode. Though it's not FT eight, it's not
Speaker 1: keyboard to keyboard, it is a digital voice mode DMR
Speaker 1: D Star Fusion P twenty five nxdn M seventeen. If
Speaker 1: you think we should have one standard, tell me in
Speaker 1: the comments blow who should set that standard? Who gets
Speaker 1: to be in charge of what standard we use? Who
Speaker 1: gets to pick and tell everyone else they can't use
Speaker 1: what they want to seventy three