WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:02.879 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.400 I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:07.280 demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:11.599 I mean I did never ever watch the show. But 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:13.279 was that Game of Thrones Elmer? 6 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:17.879 Okay, yes, no, yes, well of course we were just 7 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.239 talking about the dire Wolves. 8 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:22.359 No, I know, I. 9 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:24.480 So mad. 10 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.239 I'm sorry. What's going on with you? Do I really? Yeah? 11 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:30.800 Is it the open toad shoes thing that I'm the 12 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:32.640 comment that I made? No? 13 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.640 Sure, yeah, No, everything's fine. Sure sounds like it did. 14 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:38.439 Is it just the thing about your clothes? 15 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.560 Is that my thing? Hey? 16 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.039 Gary, this is Tim from Orange. I take care of 17 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:50.439 a wealthy family live on a ranch in Texas, and 18 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.479 they travel all over the world and I handle all 19 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.960 their fun and their toys. 20 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:55.799 No, that's cool. 21 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.079 I get paid one thousand dollars a day. 22 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.799 All year long. Wow. 23 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.200 I handle their surcinge trips and their equipment for Baja, 24 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.959 the handle their skis when they're in Montana, etc. 25 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:09.040 Wow. 26 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:14.840 Thing that sounds awful. Oh you think it sounds good 27 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.719 for a thousand bucks a day. I just want to 28 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.079 feel their skis for their trip to Montana. That'd be Okay, yeah, 29 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.840 I guess I just wouldn't feel great about it. It's 30 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.760 not like something you feel good about at the end 31 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.000 of the day. Would you would you. 32 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.599 Allow your husband to pack for you for a trip, 33 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:38.040 Yeah you would, Yeah, you'd feel comfortable that he'd probably 34 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:39.239 do a much better job. 35 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:45.400 Really, why my wife would never She. 36 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.200 Would never allow you to pack for her. 37 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.079 Huh, No, that would not happen. What would you pack? 38 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.519 Well, I would pack the normal things, pants and tops 39 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:01.519 and bottoms. But you're well, difference, there's another there's like 40 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.959 the external bag, the bathroom bag. Well, but your wife's fashionable. 41 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:08.680 All my husband would have to do is pack me 42 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:10.479 a couple pairs of jeans and a couple of black 43 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.199 tank tops and call it a day. She has like outfits. 44 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.479 I do not, so it's much easier. He also would 45 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:23.240 take me to places like tent cabins at Yosemite. You 46 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:23.639 know what I mean. 47 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.280 She's trying. It's really really not that hard to pack 48 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:31.520 for our trips. What else is going on? Time for 49 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.039 what's happening? 50 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:38.240 The Department of Justice is getting involved, going to form 51 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.680 a task for us to investigate fraud, waste, abuse, and 52 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:47.520 corruption involving homeless dollars here in southern California. This, guys, 53 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.280 this is gonna get crazy. We saw this coming. We've 54 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.759 talked to Michael Monks about it before. When that federal 55 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:57.879 judge a week or so ago had Karen Bass and 56 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:01.719 the board of supervisors his chambers and said, y'all are 57 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.240 doing this wrong, and I'm going to get to the 58 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.960 bottom of it. We knew that this would all unravel, 59 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.319 that the fraud and the waste and all the money 60 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.919 that we've pointed to the homeless problem as taxpayers, that 61 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.840 this was gonna come to some sort of big deal, 62 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.000 big snowball rolling down the mountain. 63 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:18.400 Yeah. 64 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:21.240 And the new US Attorney Bill A Sale says California 65 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.159 spent more than twenty four billion dollars over the last 66 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.680 five years to address homelessness, but officials have been unable 67 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:29.280 to account for all of the expenditures and outcomes, and 68 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.039 the homeless crisis has only gotten worse. 69 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:34.759 So good, I'm glad people are looking into this. I 70 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.680 don't care if they're doing it for their own political advancement. 71 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.680 Just find out where this money is going and who 72 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:42.960 and who it's going to. 73 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:48.199 Leno's Law is moving its way through Sacramento. Jay Leno, 74 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.479 of course, famous auto enthusiast and longtime talk show host 75 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:57.240 and comedian, he wants to see some smog checks eliminated 76 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.759 for classic cars right now. Collect cars that are at 77 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.879 least thirty five years old are currently exempt from portions 78 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.199 of smog test, but this new bill introduced by Senator 79 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:10.000 Shannon Grove would do away with the acquirement requirement for 80 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:14.000 vehicles to be tested biennially or when transferred to a 81 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.600 new owner. This would be a collector motor vehicle owned 82 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.839 by a collector that is used primarily in shows, parades, 83 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.199 charitable functions, and historical historical exhibitions for display, maintenance and preservation, 84 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:32.279 not primarily for transportation. According to Shannon Grove's office, Jay 85 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.319 Leno's going to participate in the event today. 86 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:39.480 A Venarian in Vegas is missing following a viral video 87 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.279 that shows this guy kicking a horse's head. I saw 88 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:48.399 that doctor Sean Frainer was paid to administer anesthesic anesthesi 89 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.240 anesthesic anesthetic. 90 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.959 Anesthetic that was painful. 91 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:58.720 I'm sorry you needed anesthetic to get through it. Shots 92 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.639 for some horses at a a property in Pahrump. 93 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.680 Is that where the all the hookers are. I think 94 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:09.800 there are some there, let's see. 95 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.759 Shaana gonzalez Is, the property owner, said she used this 96 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:16.959 vet services since August twenty twenty four, but was shocked 97 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.839 at what she heard as she walked back from the 98 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:22.439 chicken coop. She said she heard, I heard my mother yell, 99 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.319 oh my god, he just kicked him. Runs to her 100 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.680 mother's window, looks out, but doesn't see anything but the 101 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.000 young colt struggling to breathe. Oh my god, mom, he's choking. 102 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:31.360 She said. 103 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.759 He wrapped the horse around his neck three times and 104 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:34.800 he kicked him in the head. 105 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:42.399 Explain what the guy was doing. The video was shared online. 106 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:47.360 It's not this spurt to post from him, he said. 107 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.839 I did not blatantly haul off and kick this horse 108 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:50.879 as it appears in the video. 109 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:51.800 That was not my intention. 110 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:54.560 It was done simply to get the horse in a 111 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.800 better position so that he could breathe and get up 112 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.959 and move, so I could so I could again try 113 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:01.240 who a nestetize. 114 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:06.360 Anyway, he's nowhere to be found, because well, you can't 115 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:07.920 just go kicking horses in the head. 116 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.360 People are going to come after you. That's right. We 117 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.600 got this story about the woman found alive in the 118 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:17.199 in the woods. 119 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.360 Oh, the Michigan woman who like lived off the land 120 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:22.040 for a few days. 121 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:22.600 I could do that. 122 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:23.920 I love those stories. 123 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.000 You could, I think. So, you know, your outfit's great, right, 124 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:27.839 stop it? 125 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.360 Okay, it's only because it's totally fine that it's funny 126 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.839 that I made a joke about it, is it? 127 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:40.480 Because like if if it's out of the Gary will continue. 128 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.000 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 129 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.360 AM six forty. 130 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:52.560 It's like such a bro's bro Oh yeah, you know, 131 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:53.879 high fives. 132 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:54.000 All. 133 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.959 Yeah, we're talking about love on the spectrum. And I 134 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.519 was telling Gary that the more I watch it, the 135 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.759 more it feeds into my spectrum tendencies. 136 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.040 It'll get in there, it does, it'll worm around that head. 137 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.800 Trump and his tariffs have taking a bull stock market. 138 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.600 They said that they are now on the precipice of 139 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.439 turning into a bear market faster than any president has 140 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:17.879 overseen in modern history. 141 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:19.759 We will see how that goes. 142 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.720 The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down about four hundred 143 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:23.879 and eleven points right now. 144 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.560 Nasdaq has slipped a little more. 145 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.279 It's down about two percent, as is the NASDAC and gold, 146 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:33.560 sorry oil prices. Oil prices have now slipped below sixty 147 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.519 dollars below fifty nine dollars a barrel for the first 148 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:37.720 time in a long time. 149 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:43.319 The IRS is agreeing to help ICE find illegal immigrants 150 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:48.680 by sharing information with the agency. Court documents show the 151 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.759 IRS will provide the Department of Homeland Security with information 152 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.920 for migrants who are either under federal investigation or are 153 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:03.560 already facing deportation. But what a slippery slope the IRS 154 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.879 had worn the Trump administration. The plan to use it 155 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:11.639 for information could be illegal, certainly if it's information where 156 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.000 and I'm no immigration attorney, but certainly or an attorney 157 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.040 at all, But certainly if it's somebody who's not under 158 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.439 federal investigation or not already facing deportation. And even then 159 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:29.680 that's that's a dicey line to dance. Yeah, I'm surprised 160 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:33.000 that's not getting more attention. Would you like your jeopardy question? 161 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.679 We could do that, Okay, what kind of animals do 162 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.799 you like? And what kind of animals are your least favorite? 163 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:43.879 Just kidding, I'll tell you which was. I don't like 164 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.639 I don't like porcupines, I don't like fevers, I don't 165 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.039 go on what don't you like? I don't like spiders. 166 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:50.840 You don't like spiders. I don't like spiders. And I 167 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:51.840 don't like an animal that I. 168 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.200 Don't like some spiders and a steaks. And I don't 169 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.320 like rats, but I used to not like rats more 170 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.200 and I like them now because I think there's one 171 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:59.039 that lives in my house. 172 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.840 I don't like to be surprised by animals. 173 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:04.320 I don't either animals I don't like, I like all 174 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.559 the other I don't like to be surprised by animals either. 175 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.600 Sometimes I think about if there was a bear in 176 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.519 the backyard, how i'd like it, but that if it 177 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:17.519 surprised me, I wouldn't like it. 178 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:19.519 Got that far off. It's pretty close. 179 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:26.879 Women right on wrig Ver six hundred dollars right answer. 180 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.879 Things were hopping for this author after she published The 181 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.159 Tale of Peter Rabbit. 182 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:37.279 Who is Beatrix Potter? Good job? Your mother would be proud. 183 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:46.279 Nancy Bloomquist was missing. Yes. 184 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:52.440 Nancy Bloomquist was last seen at the Little River Casino, 185 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:57.159 about ninety five miles north of Norton Shores in Michigan 186 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:02.879 Thursday night. Few hours for nightfall, she decided she was 187 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:04.000 gonna drive home. 188 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.000 Wait, she had a couple of cocks. I don't know, 189 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.879 I don't know. In my story, she has gone. 190 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:14.200 Nancy said, oh my gosh, it's time to go home. 191 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:19.279 She's from the South. Oh gosh, got her. Oh boy, 192 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.120 it's time dog go home. 193 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:25.519 She's having like Val Kilmer a little bit in the 194 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:25.960 first go. 195 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.480 She's so, she jumps in her twenty twenty four gmc 196 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:36.159 terrain not to brag, and drives home. However, she gets 197 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.759 lost on a private road and her almost brand new 198 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:41.440 vehicle becomes disabled. 199 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:47.000 Oh yeah, what am I gonna do now? Oh boy? 200 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:54.919 So overnight Thursday into Friday again Michigan rain and freezing temperatures. 201 00:10:55.559 --> 00:11:00.159 In fact, in the stretch between Thursday and Sunday, a 202 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:05.240 front produced rain and light snow. Overnight lows dipped into 203 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.639 the twenty degree area. 204 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.039 Twenty two was the low. 205 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:12.639 You see Nancy's driver license picture. No, I'm a sturdy woman. 206 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:17.159 She looks exactly like she sounds in your story. So 207 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:20.440 the Mason County Sheriff's office is I think a linebacker, 208 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.159 but short blonde bob. 209 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:28.759 Okay, all right, that is not what I was expecting. 210 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:30.240 But linebacker. 211 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:35.759 But Nancy is a lady Nancy fled the vehicle after 212 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.240 it erupted in flames, but tried to return because she 213 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.799 had apparently left her phone inside. Oh crap and a half, 214 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:47.080 I forgot my phone. So the Mason County sheriff said 215 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.639 the SUV may have ignited after its engine was exhausted 216 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.080 in an effort to get traction off road in the 217 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:58.960 weather that the sheriff described as life threatening. Nancy got 218 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.159 lost as she was trying to return to her car, 219 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:05.679 and because of the rain and the debilitating cold, her 220 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:06.960 body locked up. 221 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.799 Maybe it was because she was. 222 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.159 A backup tight end for the University of Michigan for 223 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:18.679 three and a half years. But she sought shelter next 224 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.639 to a tree that she pushed over. Sorry the tree 225 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.159 had already fallen, But I. 226 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:24.799 Don't think backups are that big. 227 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.159 She found college level maybe not, but it's Division one. 228 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.200 I mean, Michigan's got a good program. She sought shelter 229 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.480 next to a downtree. She apparently stayed there for three 230 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.159 days until she was discovered by a search team on 231 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:40.240 Sunday after a drone spotter. Sheriff said that Nancy was conscious. 232 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.240 She spoke to arriving deputies where the hell have you 233 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:44.919 guys been? 234 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.080 She said she had eaten three of the town's children. 235 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:52.679 She was taken to hospital and treated for exposure. 236 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.960 I love stories where people just survive, Like whether it's 237 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.519 a car crash and they're just in like a ravine 238 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.759 for the year five or seven days, or on a 239 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.320 heke and they get lost in drink water. It's just 240 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.879 it's amazing. Remember that woman who was in that crash 241 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.960 and she like used her sweatshirt to like soak up 242 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.320 the water and then drink from it. I just get 243 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.519 I mean, I give up sometimes inside my home, next 244 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:19.519 to the refrigerator. 245 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:23.200 Sometimes on the two ten when traffic slows down, just whatever, 246 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:23.759 take me. 247 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.600 Come on, Lord, where's the asteroid? Bring on? 248 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.799 My dinosaur wears my t rex? 249 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.559 Hey, crap and a half. I like that. 250 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.399 Saving that's saying, oh, crap and a half. 251 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:38.840 Well, that was Nancy's. Yeah, I like that. 252 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:42.000 I would never think of something like that. Nancy, She's oh, yeah, 253 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:47.320 she did. Oh crap and a half. That is a 254 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:48.679 dude wearing a wig, isn't it. 255 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.240 I don't know what Nancy's journey is back all right, 256 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.960 but I did do an extensive Google search with that 257 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.360 question in mind came out with nothing because you know what, 258 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.440 Nancy Bloomquist, she's the kind of person who doesn't like 259 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.519 to make a big deal out of it. If Nancy, 260 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:15.120 if Nancy was born George, we would never know because 261 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.519 she doesn't like to make a big deal out of it. 262 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.840 She's like, give me my wig and let me get 263 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:19.679 lost in the woods. 264 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:23.759 The True Crime Tuesday story that we have is an 265 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:27.600 interesting look at how technology has changed criminal investigations. 266 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:28.519 We'll talk about how. 267 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:34.039 AI is making Oh sorry here, No, No, that's fine, 268 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:34.720 everything's fine. 269 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:36.600 I don't hear it. I didn't hear that at all. 270 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:38.440 Were you clicking your pen the whole time? 271 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:40.279 Does that bother you all the time? Is that one 272 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:41.200 of your triggers? No? 273 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.000 In fact, I don't think I ever hear I do 274 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:43.399 it too. 275 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.240 Unfortunately, I know that I put my headphones back on. 276 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.759 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 277 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:54.840 AM six forty. 278 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.399 Some foreign leaders have been frustrated, although administration if A 279 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.159 have now said that there phones have arguably been ringing 280 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.120 off the hook. Where other countries have come in and 281 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:12.559 asked to negotiate so that we can avoid a worldwide 282 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:16.840 trade war. That could erupt, but as of right now, 283 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.519 China is still the biggest player in all of this. 284 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.960 Trump administration is also touting a Supreme Court ruling that 285 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:27.320 will allow it to resume deportations under the Alien Enemies 286 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.840 Act as a major victory, but pretty far from over. 287 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.919 The divided court found that Trump can use the eighteenth 288 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.279 century wartime law to deport Venezuelan migrants accused of being 289 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:42.159 gang members to this prison at El Salvator El Salvador. 290 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.960 That is, the justice has also decided people accused of 291 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.240 being members of the trendy Aragua gang do have to 292 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.240 get a chance to challenge their removals, finding that their 293 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:54.639 lawyers said was an important victory. In all of this. 294 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.639 We've talked about true crime stories a lot. We talk 295 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.799 about we talk about different ways that cases can be 296 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.960 built against people. One of those main ways for the 297 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.559 last one hundred years or so the cases have been 298 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.879 built against criminals is fingerprints. 299 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.200 That's where we start True Crime Tuesday. 300 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.279 The story is true, sounds true? 301 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:26.240 No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Garry and 302 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.720 Shannon present True Crime. 303 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:35.600 The science of fingerprinting. The pattern matching of fingerprinting started 304 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.080 back in the eighteen seventies, a guy named Henry Folds, 305 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.519 a Scottish medical missionary who was serving in Japan, started 306 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.399 thinking about fingerprints, and while he was on an archaeological 307 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.440 expedition with a friend, he noticed that there was a 308 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:53.039 print on a clay relic and he reminded him of 309 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.840 some stories he'd heard about merchants, Chinese merchants who were 310 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:01.039 using fingerprints to sign contracts, And he said, our fingerprints 311 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.600 really as unique as we think they are. 312 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:09.359 So he started recording fingerprints using a method called nature printings. 313 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.079 Botanists use this to document plant leaves. You may have 314 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:17.759 seen this. So he smeared thin coats of printer's ink 315 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:22.480 over a tin plate and carefully pressed the finger print 316 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.200 of a fingertip of a volunteer onto the blotch, then 317 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.480 transfer their ink finger onto a piece of paper. Now, 318 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.799 not much has changed since good old Henry's experience in 319 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.839 the nineteen seventies or eighteen seventies. Excuse me, that sounds 320 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.640 exactly like they do it, at least in the shows 321 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:40.720 that the police departments. 322 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.640 Sure, I mean, now, if you need to get fingerprinted, 323 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.759 they can do. You know, you throw your thumb print 324 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.880 down on a glass and they can scan the fingerprint 325 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.160 that way. That's that's probably the most advanced that they've 326 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.720 gotten when it comes to fingerprints. But over the next 327 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.160 decade or so, again we're talking about the eighteen seventies 328 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.440 eighteen eighties, he made thousands of these prints. He even 329 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.240 enlisted the staff of a hospital in Tokyo. Each fingerprint 330 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:10.079 that he captured appeared to be unique, and this is 331 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:15.200 probably just as important. It maintained its distinct pattern over time, 332 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:20.000 so as a kid got older, that pattern of loops 333 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.799 and whirls in that individual fingerprint never changed. 334 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.240 So his extensive and detailed collection of these fingerprints would 335 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:34.440 become a key piece of evidence. Tokyo police was investigating 336 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.599 a break in at the same hospital where he worked, 337 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:43.240 and authorities identified one of Henry's own employees as a suspect, 338 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:48.319 and had even discovered sooty fingerprints that the intruder had 339 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.519 left on a wall. So that employee, it turned out, 340 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:55.720 had provided his fingerprints for Henri's study earlier. And when 341 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:58.640 the police compared the ones from the wall to the 342 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.440 suspects and so they have the wrong person. 343 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:03.240 The Prince not a match. 344 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.240 Well now, and this was exciting for the doctor. His 345 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.240 collection could be used to help solve crimes. Bloody finger 346 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:13.400 marks or impressions on clay or glass, whatever, they may 347 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.440 lead to the scientific identification of criminals. This is a 348 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.160 letter that he wrote published in the journal Nature way 349 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:23.200 back when on the skin furrows of the hand. If 350 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.000 you're interested, you can go back and look it up. 351 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.519 But he said, there can be no doubt as to 352 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.839 the advantage of having besides their photographs, a Nature copy 353 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:38.839 of the forever unchanging finger furrows of important criminals. So 354 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.279 he asked other scientists. He thought that this was going 355 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.200 to be a major breakthrough and asked other scientists to 356 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:47.960 help publicize his findings. Sent observations and classification system for 357 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.680 fingerprints too, you know a guy named Charles Darwin. Charles 358 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.160 Darwin then shared it with his cousin, the mathematics mathematician 359 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.079 Francis Galton, and he saw their potential of fingerprints to 360 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:03.319 help solve crimes. He decided to help develop a system 361 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.480 to classify and to analyze them. 362 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:08.480 Birds of a feather, kids, this is why you should 363 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.720 have friends that are smart, because then you too will 364 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:16.039 be smart. He was the only person Henry studying fingerprints 365 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.039 around the same time, there was William Herschel. He was 366 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.000 a German born British astronomer. Astronomerscuse me, working in India 367 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.880 had long kept fingerprints, records of them, began using them 368 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:31.279 to seal contracts. And then Galton the mathematician collected the 369 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:35.680 findings of fields in Herschel and in eighteen ninety two 370 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:40.279 published his own classification system. So anyway, that was a hit, 371 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.000 and then it became widely publicized that this was a thing. 372 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:49.119 There are some problems with fingerprinting, However, the loops and 373 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.319 the whirls and the arches can shrink the pool of 374 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.920 possible matches to somebody, but they're not nearly enough for 375 00:20:55.960 --> 00:21:00.640 an identification for some people. The second level of analysis 376 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:02.960 includes the ridges of a print. 377 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.200 For every partial fingerprint found at a crime scene, you 378 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.839 can find an expert witness that will take the sand 379 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.720 and tell you that that fingerprint is not reliable. Well, now, 380 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:17.200 not only will you have the advice of whatever expert 381 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.720 witness was handsomely paid by the defense to take the 382 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:24.359 stand and tell you that fingerprint evidence was not reliable. 383 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.839 AI has stepped into the conversation and says that fingerprints 384 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:32.799 are not unique. How will this affect cases in the 385 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:38.279 future and retroactively, Perhaps that will be up next. 386 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:43.079 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 387 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:47.640 AM six forty stories. 388 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.279 We're following for you today, of course, Keeping and I 389 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:55.079 on the stock market. US stocks dove today after a 390 00:21:55.240 --> 00:22:01.119 second day reversals. Good morning, and then fear at the 391 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:04.880 close because we still don't or Wall Street still doesn't 392 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.400 have any idea what to make of what's going on 393 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.359 with tariffs. Yesterday we kind of saw a turnaround after 394 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.759 their rumor came out that the administration was thinking about a. 395 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:16.799 Pause in the tariffs. 396 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:22.839 China came back hard hitting yesterday into this morning. Now 397 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.960 we know about the fight between Peter Navarro, the trade 398 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:31.279 advisor to Trump, and Elon Musk. So there's a lot 399 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:34.000 of uncertainty, and we know one thing for sure, the 400 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.599 stock market does not enjoy uncertainty. 401 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.920