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Speaker 1: Guess what this is?

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Speaker 2: Sure pissed?

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Speaker 1: No, No, Mary is closer just because she guess a whine.

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Speaker 3: No, it depends on the brand. Let's be real.

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Speaker 1: It's Oregon Pino noir.

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Speaker 2: Those my second guess.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, what hell? Then Billy crapping in. It

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is Monday, May fifth, sixteenth. I'm your host, as always,

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Mike Maharty here with episode two hundred and sixteen, seventy sixteenth,

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And that's Dan Reikert jumping in for as Q. As always,

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that's Mary Mary. I said it's episode two hundred and

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sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: I think May sixteenth, and Mary, kesh, this is all inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: You know, we are in the age of misinformation and

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you are killing it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What are you guys up to? What are

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you doing here? I'm kind of busy. What do you want?

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It's my favorite bit to do with Mary. When we

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were doing Knevila, She's like she'd start recording and be like,

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what do you want? I'm busy. That's my favorite. Every

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time we finished the resume before remake. Finally, because Mary

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was fucking dragging her feet for a year.

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Speaker 2: It's very good.

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Speaker 3: I just had the Bully.

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Speaker 1: I still maintain that both RESUMEEL four and resume before remake.

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The last third of both of those games is not good.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a slog, isn't it. Like I

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just kind of was like some grads finished. I was like,

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let's go, like, let's finish it, whereas like the first

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third of that game you don't want it to ever end.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is awesome. I'm loving it.

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Speaker 2: Castle are Grade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I read like that was the era when it's

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like when I was buying games where it's like anytime

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it was longer, it always equaled good to me because

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it's like I'm getting more for my money, and so

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like when the Castle ended and then it's like, wait,

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are we going to this whole island? There's gonna be

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a whole other thing, I was like fuck yes. And

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like as I got older and also started getting games

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for free that probably helped me too. Then it was

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just like, oh, okay, longer doesn't always equal better, yea

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necessarily and yeah that could have ended after the Castle

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and been okay.

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Speaker 3: It was fun. I still like the key.

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Speaker 1: There's there's gotta be there's got to be a secret

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underground laboratory. It's resident evil, So I'm fine with that happening.

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It's the fact that you like, the zombies are this

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like fully armed militia with like garage doors that are

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on a timer that does this for some reason in.

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Speaker 5: Search lights and it's just this laser commando or something

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which normally which is no problem with but it's.

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Speaker 1: In and of itself. But yeah, but the village.

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Speaker 5: And Castle were so like, I feel like there's diminishing.

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If there's three acts there, Village, Castle, Island, I think

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it is slightly diminishing.

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Speaker 2: We're earns each time, even though I like all of it,

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Speaker 1: And I think Resume before Remake did a really good

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job with the Castle, especially especially the metroidvany aspects of

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the puzzles that you're going back to underground, like the

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night you have to kill that one night to get

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the weapon up grade or whatever it is, or you

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get that the merchant gives you the blue note to

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go kill him. That stuffs great. And then also what

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the ways that they changed the blind wolverine dude fight

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with the bells. I think they did a good job

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and remake with that. I like what they did with

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the lake but man, we're finally done. Mary kind of

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finally sacked up and fucking finished it.

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Speaker 4: I really I've been I've been bad, bad girl, but

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I was like, let's do this, let's finally do this,

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and I I'm proud of myself for finishing another Resident

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Evil game. I mean, we're like past ten of these

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games now, like we've done.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, past ten, we count doesn't more than that. I

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think we're I think before we make was season six.

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Speaker 3: King Senia sixteen sixteen, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, sixteen, your's worth a lot for eleven twelve? Yeah

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that was thirteen thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Like discussing game amounts in birthday sacraments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like Mario is just an actual middle aged man.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, legal what we say? Yeah yeah, or it's

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maybe what they said in the nineties. I don't know

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if it's okay to say that anymore, Like that's kind

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of fucked up upon reflection, Mario's.

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Speaker 1: Legal Wait wait, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think he had a mustard.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about a six year old. I'm saying even

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legal for thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: Uh eight numbers and we're like, oh, King seniora sweet

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sixteen eighteen is just was like legal.

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Speaker 3: I was growing that was like, it's still for it,

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but is he not legal?

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Speaker 5: World as a plumber with a mustache? Mario is a

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man now like baby Mario is a different situation that

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is a baby born.

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Speaker 3: Were they not? Are you saying they came out of

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the womb?

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Speaker 5: Like, so there's no evidence of Mario between baby and

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plumber man.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's just different universes like Marvel where

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it's like, oh, this is a different timeline where yeah,

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where Mario is a baby, that's what he actually used

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to look like when he was not legal.

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Speaker 2: I've never thought it was something he looks like Mario.

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Speaker 3: Do you know this joke.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to let you play it out.

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Speaker 2: Watched joke when.

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Speaker 4: I was growing up. People used to say that all

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the time, and I was like, that's really fucked up.

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Now look at me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get us pulled off the air. Okay, here's

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the I.

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Speaker 5: They showed the new Mario Tennis thing in the direct

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and there's a baby law Jesus Christ, Mariady drunk baby

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Wallawigi and I was like, fuck yeah, which like in

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in Mario lore, everyone's got a baby thing. There's baby Rosalina, Baby, Peach, baby, everything,

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but there's nothing between baby an adult.

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Speaker 2: If they announced any kind.

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Speaker 5: Of official Mario project, whether it's a fucking cartoon or

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a movie or a game, and there was like a

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sixteen year old Mario, I would hate it so much,

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just like you know, I'm a kid, I'm kid Mario, Like,

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I would fucking hate that guy, Mario.

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Speaker 1: Broccoli hair and.

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Speaker 2: Mario influencer marios O.

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Speaker 3: God, they have baggy jeans, Jenko's.

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Speaker 1: Straight edge.

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Speaker 2: I would take. I would take drunk Mario like Mario

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just has a bad turn.

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Speaker 4: And no at that age, it's just like they're scraping

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cigarettes off the ground and you know, asking you to

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buy them beer.

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Speaker 3: Can you say tween Walluigi three times.

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Speaker 5: Fast between Wallowigi, tween wallow tween wall Owigi. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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I'm in practicing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Susions work for me like a shithead high school age.

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Speaker 3: Spell it really quickly, you're yeah, what's your desktop image? Pervert?

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Speaker 2: Look, I brought this up.

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Speaker 5: On the BombCast and this is fucking insane to me,

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which and it's not nothing wrong with this whatever people

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are into.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get to the Holi Night discussion.

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Speaker 5: Later, but I have frequently while playing this game, searched

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the Blue Sky for like, you know, I like the

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Trobio boss fight I was having trouble with, and so

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I was like, is.

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Speaker 1: It just true?

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Speaker 5: I just need to see I need to see if

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people are having problems with it. And I just searched

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the word Trobio and I go by latest to see

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what what people are saying. Every fucking other thing is

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just like here's my drawing of three Robio jacking off

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with his giant cock, or here's Hornet fucking sucking off Trobio,

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or here's I Today. I started Act three and I

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literally just typed in the phrase act three because I

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was like, man, this gut really hard, really quick, just

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to see what people were saying.

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Speaker 2: And it was like dah, here's fucking DP Hornet with

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fucking last judge or whatever. What Yeah, yes, people are

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fucking horny.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like all the time.

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Speaker 5: William hollow Night would be the thing, though, Like I know,

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people get very horny about video game paracters and stuff.

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We've discussed that, but like, yeah, I expected the cartoon

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Bug game to be that, you know, yeah, yeah, I

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wonder if there's more of it with soak song or

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I'm just saying it because I'm searching for soaksong terms

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like the cross terms. Would it be like, oh, look

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at this cross puzzled fucking bukacky?

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Speaker 1: Did you see did you see the Pickman three ship? But?

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Did you see the Pickman three ship? It?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna say you said, I know, I know,

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I know you're made of that, But just I'm gonna

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see if I can just type in something.

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Speaker 2: As a pin in the Blue Sky go by Latest and.

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Speaker 3: Blue Sky just like overwhelmed with porn right now?

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Speaker 5: I think so when I think it's a lot of

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like video game art porn and stuff. Yeah, it's it's

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not as filthy as the Hollid Night stuff. Maybe that's

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just like, but there is just some kind of like

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corny ish drawings of Pickman here.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of lowest from family guy porn out

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there too. You ever notice that I've heard that.

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Speaker 3: See the market for her. I just don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I heard people have told me yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Friend lunch a friend, name.

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Speaker 5: My heart and said, so I will say Pickman does

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seem to buck the trend here. I'm not saying a

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lot of good, a thing of warriors ass and and

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it says, what's the aroma of the day.

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Speaker 3: You're on a weird blue sky?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we maybe maybe it's just societal or

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maybe we're just like at that part of the internet

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where like you can't google something without it being disgusting.

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when was the last time you watched Shrek? And I

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like googled Shrek and I just saw Shrek's like it

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was a meme of like Shrek's butt and he just

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was turning around and going get at a mass swamp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Funny, but I was like, I didn't want to see

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your butt.

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Speaker 1: That's hard.

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Speaker 5: Thing was trying to figure out like what percentage of

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it is ironic and what percentage is like actually, like

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I'm waking off right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, hear me Out is like a very popular

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trend right now?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Dan? Yeah, yeah, we

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did this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we hear me Out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did episodes.

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Speaker 3: I bet tween Waluigi would be on Dan's No.

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Speaker 5: Look, I love Wallaig, but I can't say I have

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any interest in seeing any form of extual huaalauji, no,

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thank you, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Would struggle with any of this. I understand that it's like,

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uh yeah, maybe it's like a part of our culture.

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But is nothing sacred anymore? Is Tetris clean?

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Speaker 1: No way, those straight those straight lines, you can't look

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like that going into a whole perfectly formed for it.

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Speaker 2: You can guarantee there's Tetris porn.

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Speaker 1: There's absolutely Tetris porn. Real sex is basically Tetris and

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Twister combined.

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Speaker 2: So the Bible described it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, did you see her shape?

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah bye. Exodus twenty three, twenty three,

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verses sixteen fourteen, when a man gets left hand yellow

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and the woman gets right foot red. Only then shall

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a vision of God come into the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Twister is still a thing. I feel like Twister

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was such as in our childhood.

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Speaker 1: My niece Enhew's played it every once in a while. Okay, okay,

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I don't think it is.

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Speaker 3: I think it was like a classic game. I wonder

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if they play candy Land anymore.

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Speaker 2: That game does just suck.

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Speaker 1: It really does, like there's just nothing, like you're just reskinned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about mouse trap.

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Speaker 2: I like, oh, it's a mouse trap.

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Speaker 5: The actual game sucks ass like the actual like I

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never Actually it's like, oh, you have to get like,

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you set it up, you do the thing, the green

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guy backflips into the fucking tub, and then it's just

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a great time for everyone.

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Speaker 2: That's how simple it was.

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Speaker 5: Back then, we watched that same fucking mouse trap thing

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go through four billion times and we loved it, loved it.

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Speaker 1: Did you play Don't Like Daddy? Yes, that game was

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an anxiety Remember the commercials.

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Speaker 2: I remember the commercials.

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Speaker 1: And Daddy and you get you roll it. I think,

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like I'm probably butchering some of it. But you roll

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a dice or you roll a die and it tells

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you how many times you basically press this thing button

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on his alarm clock and it's like a jack in

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the box. It randomly resets every time you put his

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torso back down. It's like the gator tooth thing repressed

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the gator. Yeah, that was terrifying and then like stressful too, Yeah,

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terrif And then also, Don't Break the Ice was another game.

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Speaker 2: Don't Bring the Ice is awesome.

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Speaker 1: When you would uh, you would put speaking of tetris,

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you would flip this platform upside down, Yeah, with the

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hammer and then you'd fit them all in so like

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it would be push.

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Speaker 3: Into the tile games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you like push stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think that feels good, is great.

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Speaker 5: I think one that has the surprise element and the

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tactile element is Perfection. Do you remember that where you

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had to take the yellow pieces and you put it

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at for Operation Opera, your hands going.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you could kill that guy so easily.

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Speaker 3: Did it just buzz or did it shock?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 2: Just buzz and mind vibrated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The worst child though, right, I think?

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Speaker 1: Is it like to a near lethal vibrated trust me? No,

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but it was the Yeah, Perfection messed with me too.

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But the yeah, don't wake Daddy always causings.

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Speaker 3: Get caught up in the crossfire.

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Speaker 2: The idea of Crossfire was always better than the game though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That had a sick trailer though, like incredible, kids were

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like really excited and the Paul landscape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's old, that's old old.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate Jenga's like resurgence as this beer Garden

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Brewery game, the Giant.

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Speaker 3: One Giant Jenga.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the drink like in college, if we did the

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drinking game one where everything has something in the sharpie

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written on it. Chug a beer, you gotta you can

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give out to drinks you can?

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Speaker 2: You know that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I just want to stop talking about

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video games for good and go play games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to change the podcast a lot.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of good games.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of good games. We're gonna have

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quite a few to talk about tonight and next episode

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within Bargoes Lifting, I think we're all playing something that

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we can't talk about right now, but looking forward to that.

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But we have plenty to talk about before that. Any Oh,

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I forgot to mention I should have mentioned this at

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the very top of the episode. In fact, I might

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actually apologies if I'm repeating myself and I've re recorded

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it to put it at the top, because I should have.

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If you find yourself in the Venn diagram overlap of

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people who like wine and video games, and you're in

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the Tri State area or Pennsylvania, or you can be

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in New York in like let's tentatively say October twentieth,

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which is a Monday, which I realize is tough. The

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wine bar I help out at we're doing a fighting

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game tournament and we've got three prizes that are we're

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lining up, so put it on your calendar. What game

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smash Bros. When we're Yeah, so I'm torn. We're we're

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deciding on that between Melee and Ultimate. We're gonna do Melee.

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We're gonna do like three stock rules, no items, one

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on one. But basically it's gonna be a tournament. We're

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aiming for thirty two people. Doesn't mean if you're if

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you're not in the tournament, you could still come hang

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out the wine bar. Gonna set up one TV for

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the tournament itself, another TV for just like warming up

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or hanging out practicing or like you know, to show

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the scoreboard the once you get into the final four

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and whatnot. Gonna bring a bunch of different controller options.

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First prize is gonna be ah, we're aiming to make it.

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Actually I shouldn't get into the prizes yet, but there

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will be some really cool prizes. Whether you're super into

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wine or not. They will be wine related obviously, but uh,

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it'll be a fun time. It's the bar I help

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out at, so if you're in the area, could be

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a good opportunity come hang out. Kind of a meet up.

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I'll be there. That's one of us three, Yeah, come

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hang out. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love the concept of a meetup is just if

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you run into one of us in the streets.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 3: The virus Scape meetup is so successful. Again, this is

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what happened to these gripes.

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Speaker 1: Now they're alcoholic.

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Speaker 3: Check it out.

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Speaker 2: Is this your character when you are the wine guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? People hate like people hate it when I welcome

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them to the bar with that halcome.

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Speaker 3: This response, but sit around, come trick it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So put October twentieth in your calendars and then

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we'll put it on I haven't asked Dana Mary about this,

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but I'm gonna put it on Patreon and then we'll

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promote it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to huddle about it and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sign some paperwork.

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Speaker 2: Yeaheah took the business rules.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, Jake is coming to town

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a couple of days to hang out here, our producer,

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Jake Decker. He's coming for my B day, My day.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be having to meet up. He's in a hotel,

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So just go say hi to Jack in the hotel seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The holiday on holiday and on the lower east

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Side just.

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Speaker 2: Seven the Haunted Shining Room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's what. Yeah, Decker requests that everything puts her

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in the tub and says stir.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he brings like a Porky's meads shining situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we love him dearly though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be there. Go say hi to him. But yeah,

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I know he's visiting.

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 4: It's nice when your friend does Visit feels good. Speaking

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of I mean, like, we're gonna all be visiting each

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other pretty soon in like a couple not.

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Speaker 1: That far away.

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Speaker 5: It's yeah, some dates and stuff, not quite ready to

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announce yet, but uh, you know, we're doing our usual

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game of the year business doing Minnesota and that's gonna

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be great.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Mike when I first hopped on

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this call about this year is going to be insane

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as far as the top ten, Like, yeah, there's as

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a lot of sleeper stuff that like you know, they it.

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It's not necessarily the huge titles that you would expect

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that are that came out of nowhere and are just like, oh,

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these are like some of the best games I've ever played.

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It's it's awesome. Like every I looked at my top

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ten right now, and every one of them is just

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a killer.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, last month or two for me has

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started to get tough or not tough, to get really fun,

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but then has caused me to, you know, see Game

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of the Year as this tough thing to rank, because

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early on in the year I was like, oh, this

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is fun, this is great. Oh that game is amazing.

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That will definitely be I can't see anything surpassing that. Now,

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all of a sudden, I have like six games I'm

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kind of playing simultaneously. Other games might be demanding all

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my attention because I'm obsessed with them, but uh yeah,

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it'll be it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 4: We'll be like the all quarter of this year was

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a little dry, Like I don't remember having so many

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games where I was like, these are big contendees, and

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then all of a sudden, there's like six right now

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that I'm trying to raise.

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Speaker 2: The Prince Blueprints was an early one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah question on that one, but like fairly dry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what else happened early this year? A lot of them,

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like the Summer about I liked a Battle, Yeah, it

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was great, Yeah, I got playing that. Spring of summer

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is when it started to really pick up for sure,

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but yes, we will get to games in a bit. Obviously,

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Silk Song the big one, Uh, I've not talked to.

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I'd have some very brief first impressions with the three

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of us, we have not really got any pop We'll

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do that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this is the first time all three of us

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are talking about that game as a group extensively. There's

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definitely been one off d ms where I'm like, what

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did you think of this specific thing, or did you

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also hate this or did you also love this kind

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of stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally don't even know if Mary like likes

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it or anything.

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Speaker 1: I have no clue.

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Speaker 4: I haven't said anything about it yet, but like it's

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hard to not we we're not going to get to

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games just yet. But I just want to say, like,

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usually this first half is like, what have you been

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up to lately? And the truth is, this is what

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I've been up to lately.

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Speaker 3: I took the day off of work and played Silk

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Song for eleven hours.

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Speaker 2: That is what I did.

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Speaker 4: And when you ask me, like, in the last two weeks,

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what was really memorable for you, It'd be like, oh,

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pouring thirty five hours.

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Speaker 3: Into this game, that is what I have been doing.

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Speaker 4: When I am not working or like eating food, I

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am usually playing this game or thinking about this game

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all the time.

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Speaker 2: I guess if we're yeah, because we usually do just

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talk about this is ketchup shit, this is flushit time.

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There's one thing I think.

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Speaker 5: I did, which you know, Tuesdays is me and Bonx

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movie night. So we did watch a movie. So did

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one non holid night thing. In the last couple of weeks.

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I saw Warfare.

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Speaker 1: Fuck. I was literally about to bring this up.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is Days. I watched it last night, so

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did I.

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Speaker 1: This is Days.

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Speaker 5: That is an intense fucking movie. And like, I was

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curious because Mike, I feel like your family.

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Speaker 1: Did, like maybe because we, like Hulu promote it to

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put it front and center for both.

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Speaker 2: We watched it in a field Max.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, since it got we saw the trailer and we

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heard just the concept of the movie and Alex Garland

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being involved in everything. It's like everything just kind of like, oh,

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this seems like us type of movie. And then I

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was very curious when I watched it to Mike, hear

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from you because family in the Iraq war and stuff

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and that in that in Ramadi, that was in that era.

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Speaker 1: I made the mistake of watching that movie late at

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night after a man had gone to bed and I

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had had a few drinks and I read and I

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know Alex garland story too.

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Speaker 2: So the yeah, so the idea of it is is

475
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,880
that this was me.

476
00:22:44,039 --> 00:22:47,519
Speaker 5: The director Alex Garland has a writing and directing credit

477
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:49,480
on it, along with I think the guy's name is

478
00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,440
Rex something who was one of the soldiers that was

479
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:56,279
Ray maybe Ray Mendoza, let me look, yeah, I forget

480
00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,440
the name. But so basically, actually in this incident and

481
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,799
AB Starland shared yeah, NABC shared writing and directing credits,

482
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:07,599
and like they basically recreated like it all kind of

483
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,519
takes place in It's like an hour and a half long.

484
00:23:09,839 --> 00:23:12,079
It's in real time, which I'm a huge sucker for,

485
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,480
like that real time storytelling thing, and of just this

486
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,559
I don't want to like say exactly all the things

487
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:21,359
that happen. Basically, they're stationed in Iraq in this one

488
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,680
area and they're just kind of like hanging out making

489
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240
sure that there's not you know, conflict popping up or whatever,

490
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,119
and then some shit goes down and then it's just

491
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,920
like real time what went down, and it was supposed

492
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,880
to be, like it was pitched at least as like

493
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,160
extremely accurate, like working with the soldiers that were there,

494
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,079
based solely on their testimony. There's no like created characters

495
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,640
or anything like that. It's just supposed to be like

496
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,319
we made a movie very specifically about this thing, like

497
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:46,960
Mike did.

498
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: Did it read to you as authentic? Yeah?

499
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but like, uh so, the I believe

500
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,079
the movie took The incident in the movie took place

501
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,640
in I think the shorthand aliciation is Ramadi, but the

502
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:07,799
town is called our Ramadi two months that this took

503
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,440
place two months after September two thousand and six, which

504
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,519
is you know, Felusha got a lot of the headlines. Felusha,

505
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:17,559
I think everybody is part of everybody's like kind of

506
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,440
vernacular now because of some fucked up shit that we

507
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:24,240
were doing and stuff that was happening there. It was

508
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:27,519
just like a one of the worst parts of Iraq.

509
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,759
And then Ramadi is actually where my brother was with

510
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:35,720
the Marines. He went twice to Ramadi. So I didn't

511
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,319
realize a lot of that. I knew what the movie

512
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,160
was generally about. I knew was Alex Carland and Who's

513
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160
Navy seal worked with him to ensure authenticity and helped direct.

514
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,640
I knew the dude who played Luca from The Bear

515
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:47,920
was in it. I know the guy from Showgun was

516
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,799
in it. He was the sniper. I knew a bunch

517
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:52,640
of actors. When I'm like, all right, a man, what's bad.

518
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,279
It's ninety minutes. It'll be a tight ninety minutes. I'm

519
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,720
sure it'll go by quickly and not feel like an eternity.

520
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,799
Parts of it to me felt like the worst. But like,

521
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,680
so I end up watching this movie where I was like,

522
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:05,960
oh shit, so this is what it was like for

523
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,119
my brother when he was twenty five fucking years old.

524
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,440
So this happened a month and a half after my

525
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200
brother was there, during some days when we basically were

526
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,240
calling hotlines. So many marines were dying that my parents

527
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,160
were calling. They couldn't dispatch enough people to front doors

528
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,440
to say your son had died, So they were hotlines

529
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,759
set up to like check on whether your son or

530
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:31,359
in some cases your daughter was alive. Luckily he was.

531
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,759
But like I of the like war movies I've ever seen,

532
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,519
this is the most like I think the word is

533
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:44,079
overused I think it's cliche. This is a fucking visceral movie. Yes,

534
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,400
there are some, and it's not like it's not over

535
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,519
the top. When violence happens, it comes out of nowhere

536
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:53,599
and it's it reminds me of Green Room. I don't

537
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,160
know if you saw that, very very different movie. When

538
00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:00,119
violence happens, it's so matter of fact and like that,

539
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:04,960
it's somehow way grosser. It'll be like, oh, here's some

540
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:08,960
blurry shit in the background that's like audio that would shell.

541
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,880
This explosion just happened, and now there's no audio for

542
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,279
six minutes straight. One of the most effective parts of

543
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:16,920
the whole movie for me.

544
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna like spoil specific stuff again, this

545
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720
is the thing that really happens, so I don't know spoil. Yeah,

546
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,440
it's not like there is an explosion that happens, and

547
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,640
in the immediate aftermath of it, it's very much doing

548
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,160
that saving Private Ryan kind of trying to emulate the like,

549
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,880
you know, disorientation and kind of tonightis type stuff and everything,

550
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,240
and like you're kind of hearing muffled yells and stuff

551
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,440
like that. And at one point they pull one of

552
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480
the guys who's yelling into the house and then it

553
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,079
does this harsh cut from like super tonightis the guys

554
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,599
that were outside to like hearing what his screams are

555
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,359
like inside the house to just like people who weren't

556
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,039
you know, concussed and Tonight's and stuff, and it is

557
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200
just so jarring. You just hear these awful screams and

558
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
this guy is in a real bad way and oh

559
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,880
my unbelievably effective.

560
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also like, uh, I've never been from a movie,

561
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,279
and you know, I've talked my brother about a lot

562
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,640
of stuff like that's neither here nor there, I guess,

563
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:18,480
but he went through some very very bad stuff, like

564
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,640
you know, none of which I obviously condone. But that's it.

565
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,759
It's it, you know, it's it's it's been done, and

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,359
you know, he's it still affects him to this day.

567
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480
But like, I've never watched a movie before where the

568
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:36,160
movie itself and how certain characters are acting put me

569
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,559
in the situation so quote unquote, well, there are certain

570
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,880
characters that like we're going and like locking up and

571
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,480
going into shock, and I kind of I like I

572
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,279
understood it, and I'm like, how the fuck you're twenty five,

573
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,000
You're twenty three, you're twenty one, you're any age, and

574
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,359
this is happening right outside this building, and all of

575
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,039
a sudden you have to go out and grab this

576
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,400
dude and drag him when you know they're a bunch

577
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,200
of these people who are just defending their town. Yeah,

578
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,920
right outside and like somehow, like the way the camera

579
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:12,279
comes in over people's shoulders. And then later on and

580
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,799
they're basically waiting. There's a past a certain point again

581
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960
like I don't it's it's a you can't really spoil

582
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,640
this movie. It's not super plot heavy. They're waiting. At

583
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000
a certain point, they're like, hey, people know we're in

584
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:27,279
this house. We're no longer this like recon out post.

585
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,319
We are this target, so we need people to come

586
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:31,880
in and help us.

587
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,599
Speaker 5: Oh cool, like medivacs and hearing like, oh, it's gonna

588
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:35,559
be six minutes too.

589
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,079
Speaker 1: Bradley tanks coming in. So then they're like, I'm pretty

590
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,000
sure the six minutes is real time, so they don't.

591
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,519
So you're like you're waiting six minutes on your couch

592
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,359
watching it, and I'm like that six minutes felt like

593
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,279
forty minutes, and I'm like, it's it's so good at

594
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,640
setting that stage and when stuff, when shit hits the fan.

595
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,079
It's the most horrific movie I've seen in a while.

596
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,839
Like I watched Weapons, and Weapons mess with me less

597
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,240
like oh yeah, very very different, Like you know, it's

598
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:07,480
not sensationalized horror.

599
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,119
Speaker 3: Pretty different.

600
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but yeah no, but this is way

601
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:13,960
like I'm okay, this, this is an apt comparison. Weapons

602
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,359
is like this horror movie that's meant to scare you.

603
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Warfair is this movie that's presenting something matter of fact

604
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720
that happened based on ewhend discounts. That fucked with me

605
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:25,720
way more in a horror sense, because all of a sudden,

606
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,640
I can't every single horror movie I've ever watched, minus

607
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:31,240
like The Descent and Borderlands, Mary, which you and I

608
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,880
watched for the podcast. We did every single horror movie

609
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,400
I've ever watched.

610
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,519
Speaker 2: Borderlands was a bad movie, but I didn't know what.

611
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: The nice I could remove myself and I could remind myself, hey,

612
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,920
I'm watching horror. It's entertainment, Like I'm not. This movie

613
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:48,680
like pulled me in in a way. I was having

614
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880
a very hard time reminding myself that I was, in

615
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,319
fact on a couch watching this unfold and I was

616
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,519
not fucking feeling all this, yeah.

617
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:57,839
Speaker 5: Because in a way like you're I mean you are,

618
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,960
but you're not because like the whole time you're watching,

619
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,559
you're like Jesus Christ, this really happened, like and I

620
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,759
think that is like I feel like I do enjoy

621
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680
war Enjoy such a weird thing to say with movies

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,279
like this, because like when I rated it on a letterbox,

623
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,279
I like was thinking about giving it five stars, but

624
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:13,359
then I thought that was kind of like.

625
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: It's, well, you fuck, yeah, let's watch Warrior.

626
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,119
Speaker 5: It's like like that, it's incredibly well done, but I

627
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,000
didn't want to, Like it's not like a you don't

628
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
something in a movie Cook's ass, Like no, it's it

629
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
reminds me more of like you know, saving Private Ryan,

630
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,720
like the d Day scene, because you know, you have

631
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,559
the more kind of like artistic you know, the Full

632
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,759
Metal Jackets, the Apocalypse now is that are kind of

633
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,160
using this war as a backdrop to tell a story

634
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,400
about it, and then you have like the d DA

635
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,720
scene from Private Ryan and Warfare that I think are

636
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680
just trying to like let's just present this as like

637
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,119
the horrors of war just laid bare here without trying

638
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,039
to like add a narrative over it or anything. And

639
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,799
I think that's what made it so intense and affecting

640
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:58,640
to me is that it's like this fucking happened, like yeah, horrifying.

641
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

642
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,319
Speaker 1: I mean I like halfway through, I'm like, I don't

643
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,640
know if I could finish this, Like I was like,

644
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,960
oh man, this is like it's also funny because you know,

645
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,599
they're reconstructing this place where a family member was, and

646
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,839
so I was I was wondering whether it was even

647
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,599
good for me to keep watching the movie.

648
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

649
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I finished it. And you know, I, Jake

650
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,279
and I used to do a video essay series for

651
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,200
a GameSpot called Reboot, and there was an episode where

652
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,519
it's like, hey, could video games potentially portray war in

653
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,799
a quote unquote realistic way? Is it possible? I don't

654
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:40,359
think it is. But there's a quote from I think

655
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,319
it was French Watcherfoe, the French film director, saying there's

656
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:45,200
no such thing as an anti war movie.

657
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: But brought that up after we watch it. She said that, yeah,

658
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:49,079
no matter how.

659
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Hard you try to portray war in a bad light

660
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,759
in a movie, it's always going to end up being

661
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,519
entertainment or it's always going to end up like sensationalizing

662
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,839
or heroicizing or mythologizing the people in it. Warfare was

663
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
one of the aside from Deer Hunter. I think Warfare

664
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,519
Deer Hunters were rough. Yeah, both of those movies are

665
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:11,240
like it's up there with Deer Hunter in a sense,

666
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,680
and like Deer Hunter obviously digs into their home life

667
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480
afterward and before and whatnot. That's that's more of a

668
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:19,640
you know, like this epic war movie. But like Warfare,

669
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,680
I came away from like I just like I was

670
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,920
kind of had a pit in my stomach, nauseous afterward. Yeah.

671
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:26,799
Speaker 5: She she brought up the quote to me after we

672
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:28,319
watched it, and I was like, man, I don't know

673
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640
what this one if that applies, because like I can't

674
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,119
imagine anybody watching this and being like, yeah.

675
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,759
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah America war Like this was cool, good thing.

676
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,759
Speaker 3: We were there, Iran, and I want to enlist, like

677
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,920
you might surprise yourself.

678
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: I mean even uh, you know, Band of Brothers, like

679
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,079
a lot of the originals when they did this.

680
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,079
Speaker 3: People do idolize characters, right, and so it does end up.

681
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it, so like maybe I need to

682
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,759
watch it and see if I can. But generally speaking,

683
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,720
it is almost impossible to do this without being like, ooh,

684
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:01,279
but there's a hero in this story.

685
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: There's good We root for these.

686
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Guys, yeah, I mean a couple that people later on,

687
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,960
and like again, you kind of see the effects of

688
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,200
like shell shock, not shell shock, you see the effects

689
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:17,920
of like this numbness and fear on the original squad,

690
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,559
and then another platoon has to come in and help

691
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
and they are just these professionals, and all of a sudden,

692
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,000
you're like, it's just like then it becomes sort of

693
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:30,039
about like how different leaders can affect the morale, and

694
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,960
then you start thinking about like and then this other

695
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:33,559
dude does come in and he's gung ho or like.

696
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like this is so different than like

697
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,240
I did not like American Sniper. You know, like these

698
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,960
ones that are just like, oh, we're going to really

699
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,079
you know, pull on the heartstrings and show the bravery

700
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:49,640
of the I mean, there are definitely instances of bravery

701
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:51,960
and courage and stuff like that and warfare, but like

702
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,359
it does show these people as humans of like they're

703
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,759
just getting concussed and shell shocked and panicking and uh,

704
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,039
in a way that is, it's very easy to empathize

705
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:04,240
with them the whole time.

706
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,279
Speaker 1: The family that owns the house that they and was

707
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:12,719
in the bedroom like under like captive, and then the yeah, like.

708
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: The the translators. Yeah, you know, like it's man.

709
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously, just knowing it all happened this way, it

710
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,199
really affected me in a major way. Yeah, it's like, damn,

711
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,039
this is a I don't think I've seen a movie

712
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:25,480
quite like that.

713
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: I I don't even know that I can recommend the

714
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,559
movie because I'm glad you watched it. I wouldn't know

715
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:33,199
what to. I mean, like, I do think it's extremely

716
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480
effective and well made in what it was trying to do.

717
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,639
I didn't enjoy watching it, Like it's not no, no, no,

718
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,639
it's sure, yeah exactly, it's it's if this all sounds

719
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,039
up your alley, I think this is one of the better.

720
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,559
To Mary's point, there are episodes of Band Band of

721
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,760
Brothers that absolutely make those guys out to be these myths.

722
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 5: There are brother does that like very straightforward, but then

723
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,199
like it does tend like look at these heroes.

724
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,519
Speaker 1: There are other episodes that you're like, man, this is

725
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,039
rough to watch. This is that episode. This is like

726
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:06,480
the this is intense, this is like chaotic, this is visceral.

727
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:09,800
This is uh not the kind of movie I should

728
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
have watched, like with a glass of wine after my.

729
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 5: Nope, at the end when it pops up, like the

730
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,760
credits pop up at the end, it was just like Jesus.

731
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,599
Speaker 1: I need to go for a walk or something. Yeah.

732
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you're not selling it for me right now.

733
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,920
I'm like really looking for escapism too.

734
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: It's just.

735
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,119
Speaker 5: Escape isn't back to the quainter time of the Iraq War, right, Oh,

736
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,159
what a lovely time.

737
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: I can't even watch the Bear right now.

738
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't have it in me, Like I'm

739
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:40,880
not watching like eight people scream fucking you know, ship

740
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320
at each other while they try to make.

741
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: Dinner, screaming and bleeding and shooting. Yeah, it definitely is that,

742
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,559
I know, ruptures their ear drums for a bit. It's

743
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:52,360
not all screaming.

744
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: It is horrifying for most of the hour and a

745
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,599
half running.

746
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: When he opens the bottle of champagne, everyone gets the tonight. Yeah,

747
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,280
they're like I can't.

748
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,679
Speaker 5: No, no, there's the part where he's trying to give

749
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,559
morphine to the guy who's bleeding out and he accidentally

750
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,360
does it upside down and jabbed himself.

751
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:06,639
Speaker 2: With the morphine.

752
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: Canna beans and beans go everywhere, and they're like, we

753
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,360
have eighteen orders.

754
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: We are past due.

755
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,679
Speaker 1: Oh. And then there's the part where you're like, oh,

756
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,679
they got to roll this guy over. How bad could that?

757
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god? And then they do the other way. Jesus.

758
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh, wait, his shins are in eighty pieces,

759
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,880
so that's gonna hurt a bit.

760
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy's money, he's running out of money for

761
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,360
the restaurant, but they've got to make this dinner rush.

762
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: He's like getting rolled over with morphine. He's like, thank

763
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,039
you sho enough every time to get morphine. I shouldn't. Yeah.

764
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,679
It was definitely the biggest.

765
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: Test of my Like, you know, I talk about, like,

766
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,599
you know, movies like I don't really cry. I don't

767
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,760
get you know, emotionally affected by movies because it's just

768
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,800
like I can just see that like this is a movie.

769
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,159
Speaker 2: This was a sound stage in Burbank.

770
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,519
Speaker 5: This didn't really happen, and my brain can't really do

771
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,000
that clicking it, but like my brain clicked in with

772
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,039
this one because it's like now does happened, so like

773
00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:57,679
I felt every bit of it.

774
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: You know, this movie is extremely good at putting you

775
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,000
in a very specific spot at a very specific time

776
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,719
for ninety minutes in real time. And if that sounds

777
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,440
like it's something you want to see, you can go

778
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:14,039
for it if you want to, Like Mary said, enjoy

779
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960
your entertainment and like kind of escape, don't do this

780
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,079
is not that, which I totally get and I probably

781
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,599
should have told myself before I started that movie. I'm not.

782
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,039
I don't regret watching it, but yeah, I with my

783
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,000
personal family baggage attached to it, literally.

784
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 2: Talking about you, like while I was watching.

785
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was where he was, Like it took

786
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,320
place a month and a half after he was he

787
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,280
was still there when it was happening, But this took

788
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,800
place a month and a half after some shit was

789
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,960
going down with him in his marines.

790
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,519
Speaker 2: But it didn't seem like a good time.

791
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: No, doesn't. Not not on my like, not on my

792
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:55,599
bucket list to go through that ship.

793
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: Not so much mar you watch anything.

794
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, one travels back in time to be a chef

795
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,039
for Samurais.

796
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: She's got to make flat but the steak is tough, Nor.

797
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: Does she have morphine to help her morphine steak.

798
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,039
Speaker 1: No, Mary, I I really I wish I had. I

799
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,079
wish you were there to tell me, hey, let's watch

800
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,000
something that we cannot think about.

801
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: I mean, not to bring it back to games, but like,

802
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,679
because I've been playing Hollow Night so much. The idea

803
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,440
of like finishing a Boston Hollow Night and going down

804
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,440
and watching a war movie like get Out.

805
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: That's literally not have a heart attack.

806
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: No.

807
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,519
Speaker 2: I played like hours of Hollow Night and then watched Warfare.

808
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 5: And then you.

809
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: Want to live.

810
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,599
Speaker 4: Past forty five, like we are. We have to be

811
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,519
kinder to our hearts. Like I I am so stressed.

812
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,599
I work and I am like, wow, that was a

813
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,800
really stressful day. And then I play Hollow Night and

814
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,719
I'm like, wow, that was a really stressful game.

815
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: This is why my hair war frame.

816
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Fucking company that makes Xanax is having a field day. Though.

817
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh there's like no reprieve. Even my hobbies are

818
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,920
stressful right now.

819
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: I need I like, uh, I started every summer, I

820
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,440
like try and grow a vegetable, and every summer I

821
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,599
fail because it doesn't get that much sun in Portland.

822
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:32,119
It's like kind of you know, it's like not the

823
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:33,880
sunniest town in the world, but we've had a really

824
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,559
sunny summer and I planted a tomato plant and all

825
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:41,679
summer I watered it and kind of waited, and god.

826
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: Damn it, I got my first tomato this weekend.

827
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Nice.

828
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,079
Speaker 5: So what happens then, Is it just a celebration you

829
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:49,679
have a tomato party, or is it just like you

830
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,880
eat it and it's like that's that.

831
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: I cut it up and I put it into guacamole.

832
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,840
But before I put it in guacamole, I had one

833
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960
like piece by itself and ate it. And I'm sure

834
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,920
there's some you know, cognitive dissonance in there, which is like,

835
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,679
this has to be the best tomato of all time

836
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,239
because I grew it, but it genuinely tastes so much

837
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,519
better than store bought tomatoes. I wish I could have

838
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:09,679
grown more than one.

839
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:11,159
Speaker 1: It was so good.

840
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, is growing numerous harder than growing like, let's say

841
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,639
you're growing one. Is there a big difference between grown

842
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,199
one and growing six? Or is it just like I

843
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
gotta put the water over like I played stardoo oh ba.

844
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about growing crops. That's all

845
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,400
I've been reading about for the last fucking four years.

846
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: This tomato wine was a one.

847
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: It was a star. It was a star.

848
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: This would have won the awards at the fair. I

849
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:44,000
think when I grow up, we would do cherry tomatoes.

850
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,880
And you can get like thirty cherry tomatoes when you

851
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,480
do that, because they're small and they just kind of

852
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:48,119
pop out right.

853
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,679
Speaker 3: Well, if you're growing one fat tomato, which is what

854
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,280
this plant was doing, it just took months for it

855
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,519
to like like shove this one out the door. I

856
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,960
was so proud of it for me, even one, but

857
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:03,920
I wish I could have had. It's kind of a

858
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,960
bummer to be like, I grew tomato this summer. It

859
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:10,679
can't even say tomatoes.

860
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: That's good that you got one. That's better than most

861
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,239
people what you do this summer.

862
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,079
Speaker 3: I grew tomato.

863
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,519
Speaker 5: It's the journey, not the destination, right, No, I want

864
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,559
to eat it, absolutely well, there's.

865
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: Ways if you just want to eat one.

866
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: But they do taste better fresh like from your own

867
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,920
I mean they literally are go through way lesservation.

868
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what tomatoes are like in your supermarkets,

869
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,800
but airloom tomatoes, which is what I would compare a

870
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,760
homegrown tomato too, right, like something that's like by a farmer.

871
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,039
You know, they're kind of weird looking with all the

872
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,440
little noodles and hooks in them. They don't look like

873
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,519
your regular tomatoes that you get. They can be like

874
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,679
seven dollars, like they're expensive per pound, but like that's

875
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,119
a lot of money for tomatoes.

876
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: This may shock you. I've never bought a tomato in

877
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,719
my life.

878
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: Should yeah tomatoes. No, no, no, I'm new to the

879
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,079
tomato game, and like, dude, tomatoes I didn't. I grew up.

880
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,760
My whole family. We disliked them. I thing because of

881
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,719
like the texture. Yeah, but oh my god. Now I

882
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,000
think like if I if there's one I don't know,

883
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,679
I'll call it a fruit. I know it's a debate,

884
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,280
but I'm gonna say it's a fruit. Is I think

885
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,039
it's just a fruit. It's a fruit of a vegetable plant,

886
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,280
I guess, but it's no, it's a fruit. I don't

887
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,519
fucking know. I call it a fruit. If there's one

888
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,119
thing food thing I could not you know ingredient I

889
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,719
could not live without. Tomatoes is on the shortlist. Good tomatoes.

890
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
I eat them like an apple. Now, air loom tomatoes.

891
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,360
People say when people ask like, why do you like

892
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,360
airloom tomatoes, a lot of people say they have more flavor.

893
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,000
It's not just that they have more flavor, it's that

894
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:46,840
they have like eight more eight additional flavors that normal

895
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,679
store bought tomatoes don't have. That you're not gonna get like,

896
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,320
there's there's there's several layers to it. It's they are

897
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:55,719
completely different fruit and they are just delicious.

898
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: So I just Google image search air one tomato. Don't

899
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,800
know what these are.

900
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,159
Speaker 4: I'm glaving that you guys were talking about war like

901
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,440
ten minutes ago, and I was like, I was like,

902
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,159
you guys, I'm really into tomatoes right now.

903
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: You navigated us out of trying.

904
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying.

905
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: You're the second squad that comes in. Yeah, Dan, and

906
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,880
I couldn't get out. Let's talking about fucking tomatoes. Fucked up.

907
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,199
Speaker 2: So I'm living these tomatoes.

908
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,119
Speaker 5: And to my layperson's eye, when I picture tomato in

909
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:32,280
my mind's eye, it's just smooth and round and it's

910
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,760
got the little green thing coming out the top.

911
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

912
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: These there's way more creases going on.

913
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've gone like all these bits and bobs they've

914
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,840
got they like look weird. They almost look like aliens.

915
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got company vibes to them, and I think

916
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,280
that's I wish I knew more about airlom tomatoes, but

917
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,599
I just think like they are they are bread more

918
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,719
like in small quantities, whereas the tomatoes you were probably

919
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,480
eating were made for mass consumption, and so they're trying

920
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,920
to go for a many tomatoes.

921
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,119
Speaker 1: It's humanly you can shape over and over under these

922
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,000
same conditions, whereas like airloom tomatoes are often grown on

923
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,840
small hectares in Europe or whatever, or you know, like

924
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,440
San Marzano tomatoes in uh Campania. I think like those

925
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,199
like they grow in an actual like field where the

926
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,440
conditions are not you know, it's up to the climate,

927
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:24,840
so then they can like grow in weird ways. But

928
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:29,480
again they develop phenolic ripeness over the course of a

929
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:32,000
growing season, so they can get actual like tens of

930
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:32,800
different flavors.

931
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: So they I was just gonna say all of that.

932
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I know.

933
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:39,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think my well was poisoned with tomatoes

934
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,119
because growing up not just tomatoes, but like so many

935
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:44,440
different things that took me forever to get to, like

936
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,960
you know, uh, pickles, tomatoes, mustard, things like that that

937
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,480
In recent years, I've kind of been like, oh shit,

938
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:53,599
why didn't I know these were good? Because like, since

939
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:56,559
everything I fucking ate from my entire childhood was like

940
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:59,679
McDonald's and stuff, I'm sure that's not the top of

941
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,519
the line and stuff because I just remember like they

942
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:03,679
look floppy and gross.

943
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 4: And imagine your first tomato being on a subway sandwich.

944
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,239
It's like paper thin and looks like bent, tastes like water,

945
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,599
just like complete sad sandwich.

946
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course that's not going to be a good impression.

947
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that's maybe part of why I

948
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,719
grew up thinking like that stuff looks gross, And now

949
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,760
that I can try like actual, like normal ones, not

950
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,519
fast food or whatever, it's like, oh I get it now, Yeah.

951
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: No that they're uh tomatoes are I would hate to

952
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,800
live without them. Glad you grew one. Thank you. I'm

953
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,360
proud of it.

954
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,159
Speaker 3: The guac was really good too.

955
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: I had a nice evening and I bought my other

956
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,760
stupid fact but I am proud of this, so I

957
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,320
will share it unapologetically.

958
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: I like estate sales, and I went to a state

959
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,599
sale and this this.

960
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,679
Speaker 4: Lady must have really liked bakewear. Or like cookware that

961
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,960
is seasonal. So they had like all these different pots

962
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,119
and pants, but it was like specifically for Christmas, and

963
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:06,119
they had like snowflakes on them. But she had an

964
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,039
entire set of bakewear for fall and had pumpkins on it.

965
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,480
I bought the whole damn pack, all ten pieces with

966
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:24,199
their original lids, seventy dollars in today's Yeah, in today's money,

967
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,880
this should have been like six hundred bucks.

968
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,039
Speaker 3: I'm thrilled.

969
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,639
Speaker 4: And so I made this food specifically so I could

970
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,639
showcase all these different pieces.

971
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I liked it it, I love it.

972
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:39,119
Speaker 3: I thank you. I was like, I'm I'm vtny cracker.

973
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,599
Speaker 4: I was like enjoying the experience of like having an

974
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,039
excuse to use all my custom fall bakeware, which I

975
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,599
will have to put in a plastic bin at the

976
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,400
end of I guess November, because the season will be

977
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,760
over these next three months.

978
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,039
Speaker 3: I'm going to be insufferable.

979
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're holding off on. There's apple cider at

980
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,079
the grocery store now, and I'm mould cider every year,

981
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,840
and also applesider is the best thing ever. I used

982
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,599
to make homemade apple cider. My grandpa so it's got

983
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,440
like I've have strong memories attached to it. I held off.

984
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:12,079
I did, not getting it till the official first day

985
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,199
of fall, which is Monday the twenty second, which is

986
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,679
my birthday.

987
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Monday.

988
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I always bring in the fall my birthday and.

989
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Your big apple boy, big big apple.

990
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: Pilla's tanging brown. You're insider town.

991
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in cider town twenty four seve until November

992
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:30,800
twenty seven.

993
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: I tare you that quote?

994
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: Dan?

995
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,079
Speaker 3: Are you a pumpkin spice?

996
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 6: Girly?

997
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,079
Speaker 1: You know what?

998
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 5: I did recently have a pumpkin spice thing. Bonk went

999
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,400
to I think Carabou Coffee or something. They had a

1000
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,400
pump I knew it was bunk.

1001
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,599
Speaker 3: She's the best thing ever happened to you. Every time

1002
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:50,719
I ask you something and hope that you've experienced it,

1003
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,039
you're like, you know what, Bonk?

1004
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: Did you think you think you're breaking news to me?

1005
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,519
Speaker 2: Christ No, she she got me.

1006
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: Whether it's Starbucks or Cara or something, she got me

1007
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,199
a pumpkin spice something or other, And.

1008
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: Goddamn, it's just a good fla. I see why it's popular.

1009
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,639
Speaker 3: It's good. Everybody likes the pumpkin spice I'm into it.

1010
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,320
I was not as strong as you, Mike. I as

1011
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,800
soon as I saw a pumpkin spice coffee.

1012
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: Creamer, I got it because one of my favorite times

1013
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,400
of year is when my coffee tastes like pumpkin spice.

1014
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,000
I'm not gonna get us Starbucks every like that's insane,

1015
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:26,679
So I just make it at home in the morning

1016
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,440
and do my little You actually like to make the

1017
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:31,280
syrup myself. It's really easy and you just chuck it

1018
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,159
in a jar. Then you have pumpkin spice all all

1019
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,440
month long. Again, I'm going to be insufferable.

1020
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 3: I love this season. It's my fast season.

1021
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,199
Speaker 5: Yes, whenever something gets like newly kind of very popular

1022
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,320
in more recent years or whatever, it tends to become

1023
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,239
a meme to shit on it between Like you know,

1024
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,639
pumpkin spice stuff or avocado toast is the go to

1025
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,760
for like boomers making fun of millennials and stuff.

1026
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: But it's like, no, they're just good, Like avocado toast.

1027
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,639
Speaker 5: Isn't this like stupid thing that like is a fad

1028
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,960
or some think it's like no avocados kicks ass.

1029
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1030
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,639
Speaker 1: Chris Plant said something when we worked together at Polygon

1031
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,639
that really resonated. He he mentioned not and he might

1032
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,519
have been paraphrasing somebody else, but I remember him being

1033
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:17,880
the one to tell me that not everything that's good

1034
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:22,800
becomes popular, but everything that becomes popular there's some there

1035
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,159
tends to be something good about it in the entertainment space,

1036
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,239
Like there might be something really shitty that gets popular,

1037
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,840
you can probably find something good about it. Sure in

1038
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,760
the sense that, like something spoke to that many people,

1039
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,159
there must be something worthwhile about it.

1040
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: And I'm trying to think like a greater examples of things,

1041
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,119
like what what is the biggest discrepancy between most popularity

1042
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,239
and least the Kardashians. Yeah, but even then they seem

1043
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,519
to have a good sense of just like was never

1044
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:56,960
seen the show, but like they might have understood, yeah

1045
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,920
audience where Reality TV was, And yeah, you.

1046
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Might have to stretch farther.

1047
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: You want something like universally hated that's popular, Dan, what

1048
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,840
are you looking.

1049
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:10,159
Speaker 5: For anything that you would consider objectively bad that got

1050
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,719
very popular, Like, I mean, you can point to a

1051
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,239
million different bad things or whatever, oh, Backstreet Boys or something,

1052
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,559
but people like that, what.

1053
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,159
Speaker 2: Do you wire you fuckers laughing?

1054
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm not nothing. Something has to do with what we

1055
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,119
were saying before we started recording.

1056
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: Just move on, we will move on.

1057
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,559
Speaker 3: There's nothing like that that matches that just weird.

1058
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: I understand, and we will move on.

1059
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,199
Speaker 1: But no, I think again. I apologies Chris, and he

1060
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,079
listens to us every once in a while. Apologies if

1061
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:46,199
I'm butchering your quote, but there is I think it's

1062
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,800
worth remembering that even when something you thing sucks and

1063
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,960
has no redeeming qualities, it got popular for some reason.

1064
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: Everything is great. There's actually nothing wrong with anybody.

1065
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah one saying, yeah, do you want.

1066
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about video games. Okay, it's time. Let's talk

1067
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:18,119
about solid Day, silk song. Hellow night, Solid Day, Yeah,

1068
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:18,639
hellow night.

1069
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,679
Speaker 2: Oh that's bad. That's not a good.

1070
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Let's start over. Let's start over.

1071
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: We're not alive. Take on that.

1072
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,039
Speaker 3: I want everyone to know who you are.

1073
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: Start over. Let's start over.

1074
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,199
Speaker 2: Taking you actually to keep that in. That was just terrible, Jake,

1075
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,119
bleep it out. Mary. There's so many people that can

1076
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:32,719
do a podcast.

1077
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,039
Speaker 3: Don't you have a button?

1078
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: You have all those fart My ship hasn't been working,

1079
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,320
so that's I've not been able to part for real because.

1080
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,159
Speaker 1: You got I don't know that.

1081
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 5: I think I still have a fart. Hang on ones

1082
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,039
that were like grandfathered in, I can do.

1083
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Do I not have a fart?

1084
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,079
Speaker 1: I love Dan farting in like a courthouse and saying

1085
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,599
that one was grandfathered in. It's fine.

1086
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,159
Speaker 2: I don't think I have a this is allowed.

1087
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,159
Speaker 5: No, I have the built in ones. I have none

1088
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:03,280
of my custom ones. It's it's time to get serious.

1089
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,679
Speaker 1: No sense.

1090
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh sorry, so sir, okay, do it do a

1091
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,159
witty intro to this segment.

1092
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,119
Speaker 1: We've all been playing a game called Hollow Night's Silk Song.

1093
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,599
Speaker 5: Accurate if not witty. Yeah, okay, Okay, here's the deal.

1094
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,880
This has been a long running thing, going back to

1095
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,400
the beginnings of this podcast about this game, going back

1096
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,880
before that, going back to me and Mary yelling at

1097
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,199
each other.

1098
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: Uh, going back before that, before I knew you existed.

1099
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 5: That's not true, that's not true Twitch office with you

1100
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,440
and and you we were sitting in the weird Twitch

1101
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,320
bar Pinball Lounge or.

1102
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: Whatever in San Francisco.

1103
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: Because I remember being like, Wow, she really fucking likes

1104
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Hollow Night. I think it had just come out, and

1105
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:54,119
you were like in full you know, like four beers

1106
00:52:54,199 --> 00:52:56,960
in rave mode about it, and I played a little

1107
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,719
bit and I was like, it's fine, all right, who's

1108
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,440
this weirdo?

1109
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: All right?

1110
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:05,559
Speaker 4: That seems accurate. That does sound like something that happened.

1111
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,920
I have no memory of that, but that.

1112
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 3: Does sound like what I remember.

1113
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: The whole saga I do recall, and we've had a

1114
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,440
lot of evolutions of it, and honestly, we have not

1115
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,880
talked about this prior. Like all I have seen is

1116
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,639
I've seen a couple of people in like Giant Bomb

1117
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,159
Chat and stuff like that mentioned like, oh I was

1118
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,039
watching Mary stream and she was raging at this boss

1119
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:26,719
or something like that.

1120
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,119
Speaker 2: That's true, but we have not talked about it.

1121
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: So it's exciting. These are like our genuine, fresh first impression.

1122
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:35,639
Speaker 1: I never got the chance to talk about Hollow Night

1123
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,440
the first game on the show because you two always

1124
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,119
are fucking you.

1125
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: Blew it with your fucking intro let us have our moment.

1126
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,039
Speaker 1: Mom and Dad are always arguing, and I'm just sitting

1127
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:46,239
in the corner listening to fucking ever Clear.

1128
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: Go suck off some pipes or whatever you do.

1129
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,039
Speaker 3: Why the solid day fucking out?

1130
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, go fu talk about the game. That's fine.

1131
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: Oh you're playing it too Okay, too late, time out? Okay,

1132
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,880
even start? How do we eat?

1133
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start. I will start because I feel very down.

1134
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: Mary.

1135
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,159
Speaker 6: I know.

1136
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: The floor is yours. Mary.

1137
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,599
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1138
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: I've never been at odds with song discussion.

1139
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,559
Speaker 3: I'm happy to have this conversation with you all.

1140
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,519
Speaker 4: I've been almost dreading it a little bit because I

1141
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:25,159
I really do love this game, and I am enjoying

1142
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,079
all of my hours that I've poured into I think

1143
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,400
I've poured thirty five hours into it, which is crazy

1144
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,159
considering I have not beat it.

1145
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,559
Speaker 2: Chicking, So thirty five for Mary, I'm at about forty

1146
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:36,239
as of today.

1147
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: Mike, you're at twelve. Okay, I just all I can

1148
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,800
tell you the thing I just unlocked. I'll probably be

1149
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,760
a spoiler. THO wouldn't it?

1150
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: Hey, do you know what?

1151
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 1: This is good?

1152
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 5: This is gonna be the big Soilk song discussion for

1153
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,280
this podcast. So like, hey, if you're worried about spoilers, uh,

1154
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,880
this is not the segment for you. So I agree

1155
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,519
all on the table.

1156
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to like get rid

1157
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,159
of crazy stuff, but like, yeah, it's you have to

1158
00:54:57,199 --> 00:54:58,519
talk about some of the boss.

1159
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: And abilities and bosses and yeah, totally no.

1160
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,199
Speaker 1: I've like, I think an hour ago I unlocked the

1161
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:11,840
the glide ability, and that's a very helpful one. You're

1162
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,079
gonna be that. I've been using it for about an

1163
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:16,280
hour hour two backtracking. I have not gotten to the

1164
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,199
next big boss. But I just thought, yeah, so that's

1165
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:19,639
where I'm at.

1166
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: I think it's phenomenal.

1167
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,119
Speaker 4: I think it is such a powerhouse of a game.

1168
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,440
It really pushes you as a player. I have never

1169
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:32,320
felt so pushed with my ability to deal with serious

1170
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,679
combat situations, stress. The platforming of sections are so long

1171
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,239
and arduous, and yet at every turn and every death.

1172
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: And it is true what you have heard of my streams.

1173
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,119
Speaker 4: And me being like these sons of bitches, which I

1174
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:48,159
did say multiple times out loud when.

1175
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: Streaming this game.

1176
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 4: I adore this game, but it is punishing, is punishing

1177
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,880
me as a person. And I have said out loud

1178
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,199
multiple times, maybe I'm not as good of a gamer

1179
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,920
as I think I am. And then I do something

1180
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,679
really cool and I say out loud, I am the

1181
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,039
greatest gamer on Earth.

1182
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the big thing with this game is,

1183
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,079
like Bonk has mentioned, like while I'm playing it downstairs,

1184
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,440
she's hearing me. I'm screaming, I am fucking like I've

1185
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,519
had a couple bosses that it's like, you know, twenty

1186
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,760
thirty times it feels like I'm just dying and I

1187
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,400
get so close and some complete horseeshit happens, like god,

1188
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,639
fuck got n Like I don't get I'm not a

1189
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,960
throwing controllers, angry gamer type or anything, but like I

1190
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:33,320
am so because I get so fucking invested in like

1191
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,960
this is the time. I know all the attacks I

1192
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,679
just have to fucking execute and I've gotten so angry

1193
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,159
at it. But that's the thing is like, Okay, so

1194
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,239
a lot of games like Okay, for instance, we'll probably

1195
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,159
talk a little bit about border Lands four, and after

1196
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,039
this Borderlands four you could probably play that whole game

1197
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,119
and be at a solid six point five out of

1198
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:52,880
ten enjoyment for many many hours.

1199
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: Sure.

1200
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:53,679
Speaker 1: Uh.

1201
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 5: With Hollow Night, I have had moments where I'm at

1202
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,679
a one out of ten, and then I have moments

1203
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:00,960
where I'm in a fucking fifteen out of ten. You know,

1204
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:03,960
it's just and that range, like I like it all

1205
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:06,679
where it's like, you know, I'll go upstairs after I'm

1206
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:08,000
playing and I'll be like, oh my god, the game

1207
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,199
is incredible. I love it, And Bonk were like, yeah,

1208
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:11,960
it really sounds like you're loving it down there, like,

1209
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,239
you know, santastically because I'm.

1210
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,159
Speaker 2: Yelling at something and I'm like, no, but no, I do.

1211
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,320
Like that's the thing I do.

1212
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 5: Like I'm getting angry and I'm yelling, but it's I

1213
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,679
don't think I would change anything. It is brutal and

1214
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,840
challenging in a way that like I am nostalgic for.

1215
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:28,800
I think, you know, growing up playing like any S

1216
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,599
games like you know, Mega Mans and stuff like that,

1217
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,360
and beating your head against stuff over and over again,

1218
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,039
just getting pissed off, and then when you finally beat it, Oh,

1219
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:36,840
it's better than that because like there wasn't a lot

1220
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,840
of horseshit stuff in like old Nees games and that

1221
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,079
we're like not good hard you know what I mean.

1222
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: This is like this is like meant to be this

1223
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:47,159
way and hard.

1224
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:47,559
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1225
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: I actually said the same thing, which is I haven't

1226
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,159
been this angry at a game since Lion King on

1227
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,960
Sega Genesis. Like shit, that last boss fight of Lion King.

1228
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,880
I was like, first of all, I don't even know

1229
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,400
how to throw scar Is too. This is too hard,

1230
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,400
it's not possible. But even once you figure out what

1231
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,440
you're supposed to do, it can take you so many

1232
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:10,159
lives and then you're gone. You lose your whole save

1233
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,599
and you start all over again. That's a fucking brutal game.

1234
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,559
This game is also brutal, but in a different way.

1235
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,719
It's teaching you very extreme mechanics over time, that you

1236
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:24,000
will die so money times figuring it out, and that

1237
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:26,360
even once you're like, oh, I actually figured it out,

1238
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,280
I know what they're teaching me.

1239
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: You stupid bitch. You're gonna have to do it another

1240
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,639
one hundred times. You're not there yet. You still don't

1241
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:34,480
know what you need to do to get it done.

1242
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:37,440
That's how tough they've made this game, but it is.

1243
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,280
It is so rewarding when you are able to actually

1244
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,159
succeed in this game. I feel such a sense of

1245
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:48,760
accomplishment when I am able to get past that boss fight.

1246
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,599
When I saw the words act Too, my jaw hit

1247
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:56,639
the fucking floor. I could not believe. I thought I

1248
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,760
beat the game. I'm so stupid. This game has humbled me.

1249
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember what was the moment that does

1250
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:04,960
the switch over, because like I have lately just been

1251
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,960
in the act two to act three thing and I

1252
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,360
try to remember what because it's the grandmother silk thing

1253
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:12,559
for act two to three? What is the thing between one?

1254
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: And it's it's the firebug that has the really long

1255
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:19,920
run up. He's like a bug and a second phase

1256
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:22,480
run back, and his second phase he has a fire

1257
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,039
mallet and he like, is it the.

1258
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: One on fire? Is it the one where the ground

1259
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,079
is falling out into the lava.

1260
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: No, that's the giant with the forearms.

1261
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm struggling to remember which one this is, but like, okay,

1262
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:35,199
so fucking many of these things.

1263
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: It's a sand area with wind and it has a

1264
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,559
really father of the flame run back and then we.

1265
00:59:41,639 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: Father the flame is the one where we break the

1266
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:44,639
lanterns uh.

1267
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: He has a like a lantern on a uh like

1268
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,880
on a metal chain and he throws it at you.

1269
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,559
But it's also on fire now and then waves of

1270
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:54,800
fire go go by.

1271
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,119
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe last year that's elden.

1272
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: Ring shit, Like, oh yeah, they I'm surprised. I this

1273
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,599
boss is like locked in my core memory. This one

1274
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,440
was so hard for me personally and then when I

1275
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:11,840
got it done, I was like, that's it. What a

1276
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:17,320
what an incredible accomplishment. These benches are liquid gold, they

1277
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,519
are chocolate for the eyes, they are like heroin. I'm

1278
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,599
so elated when I see a bench anymore. I'm like, sweet,

1279
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,159
sweet very wine. I cannot believe I get to sit

1280
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:29,440
on this.

1281
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,599
Speaker 3: I'm so happy. I'm so so so happy when I

1282
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:37,199
see these. And I just think that this game evokes

1283
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,039
so much emotion.

1284
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: There have been issues that I've had with it, but

1285
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,440
like generally speaking, what I'm saying is like I don't

1286
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,320
think I've had a game make me feel this way

1287
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:46,599
in years.

1288
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like there are there were phases

1289
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:52,639
of like, you know, most bosses I would say, you know,

1290
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:55,159
i'd be between like the third or fifth time I

1291
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,639
bought them, and then there were like a few that

1292
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,800
like you know, we're in that fifteen twenty thing, and

1293
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,119
like for those those are the ones, I'm yeah, those

1294
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:04,199
are the ones I'm screaming at, and like they kind

1295
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,679
of all follow the same pattern where it's like okay,

1296
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,559
the first like ten times, you're just kind of learning

1297
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,480
the attacks, like okay, when he does this, when he

1298
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:13,119
jumps in the air. I just need to not be

1299
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:14,840
at a diagonal and then I can do the pogo

1300
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,239
stuff or whatever, and then then you kind of learn

1301
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,039
phase two and then it's like, okay, well phase three is.

1302
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: The last one.

1303
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 5: That's when the ads come in you know how to

1304
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,920
take you Like, so there's the part. There's the learning process,

1305
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,960
which i'd say with these really hard ones or like

1306
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,119
maybe ten tries, and then there's the like overconfidence where

1307
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:32,679
it's like, Okay, I know how this guy works, I

1308
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:34,119
know all the attacks. I just got to go in

1309
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:36,239
there and kill him now. And that's where I would

1310
01:01:36,239 --> 01:01:38,440
get the most frustrated, is when it's like I'm not

1311
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,519
getting surprised by.

1312
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:42,159
Speaker 3: Shit, I know what to do now, it's just not

1313
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,199
happening for me.

1314
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like it's like, oh, I got it here, Okay,

1315
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,960
I got the right load out and everything. I know

1316
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:49,000
all the attacks. I'm good.

1317
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:51,119
Speaker 5: And then you spend like ten deaths and like, what

1318
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:52,840
the fuck is wrong with me? Why am I fucking

1319
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,239
up here? Like oh, that's bullshit? And then it's always

1320
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,639
like at a point where it's like you're at the

1321
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,559
most pissed off and you're just like kind of just

1322
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:02,159
like over and over emotionlessly, just like doing the run

1323
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:05,039
back and just like fucking okay, whatever, whatever, and then

1324
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,960
I would inevitably get into a fight where it's like

1325
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,199
I'm like halfway through the fight and I'm like, I

1326
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,519
haven't been hit yet. I'm like, wait, is this going

1327
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:14,639
really good? Hang on, don't get excited, don't don't get

1328
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:16,079
too excited, don't get it. And then it's like I'm

1329
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:17,599
still not gotting hit. I'm still not going to hit.

1330
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:19,239
Speaker 2: This is phase three. I haven't been hit yet.

1331
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 5: And then you just win and it's like sometimes it's

1332
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,760
like you didn't get hit once and it just like

1333
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,159
you've just been beaten down so much and the muscle

1334
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:27,719
memory has been established and it's like it happens.

1335
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: And I kind of think that's an awesome process to

1336
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,519
go through with something.

1337
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:35,159
Speaker 5: Like if that was every Boss, I would my beard

1338
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:36,800
hair would fall out, not just my head hair, Like

1339
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,280
I I would lose my mind and not want to

1340
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,159
play this, but like for it to be you know,

1341
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,880
every like tenth Boss or something is something that like

1342
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,840
I am screaming at the TV, like I like, look a.

1343
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: Little hairless mole rat without anything.

1344
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 5: I feel like you got to have some hair I considered, Yeah,

1345
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:53,920
well would that a fight? At some point in my life,

1346
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,320
I will shave everything and it's gonna.

1347
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 3: Be weird shiny.

1348
01:02:56,639 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but no, I I do like the process too,

1349
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,039
of like, Okay, if you've been beating your head against it,

1350
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,519
you know, take a break.

1351
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1352
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:07,719
Speaker 5: Well there's the thing like oh, trying the same thing

1353
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,199
over and over again, you know, and it's not working.

1354
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:11,000
You got to shift something up. And so it's like, okay,

1355
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,280
you sit on the bench and it's like, okay, what

1356
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,599
tools do I have here? What can I equip here?

1357
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,039
And then like you'll you'll find certain things where it's

1358
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,679
like I got the cogfly and it's like, oh shit,

1359
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,400
okay this fight where I can't really like do.

1360
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: You have the cogfly?

1361
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Mary?

1362
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: Is that a trap?

1363
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: There?

1364
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: It's a tool, And it's the kind of bugs that

1365
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,400
even spawn like five of them.

1366
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,719
Speaker 5: Oh my God, to save my ass in so many

1367
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,960
fights because like there's so many where, like the windows

1368
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,719
to attack these bosses are so so tiny, and so

1369
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,840
you're just like dodging, dodging, dodging for your life. And

1370
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,119
then it's like guy got one hit in and I

1371
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:44,920
gotta run away and heal. The cogflies are a great

1372
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,800
way to like just load up on them as long

1373
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,599
as you know your tools are at like the maximum.

1374
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:50,320
You know, your craft kit, your toolkit, all that stuff

1375
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,000
is all powered up, and it's just like, all right,

1376
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,199
I'm gonna spawn all these fucking dudes. I'm going to

1377
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:57,079
attack when I can. But even in the in between

1378
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,400
moments when I'm just dodging whatever, these little guys are

1379
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,760
kind of like nip adam and stuff and just doing nice.

1380
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: You know, it feels very like I.

1381
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: Did use something like that. I had a one that heat.

1382
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,760
When I heal it, it damages everything around me.

1383
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: Oh the mirror thing.

1384
01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that because it's so nice to

1385
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:14,519
be like, I got a heal.

1386
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: I'm and something comes at me to hurt me, and

1387
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,559
I actually kill it because I'm healing, and I'm like,

1388
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:22,360
that is sweet, sweet revenge that I can defend myself.

1389
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,119
I do think that it is more important in this

1390
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:28,800
game than in Hollow Night to upgrade your person. It

1391
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,079
is so difficult to get through this game without upgrading

1392
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:35,440
your stats. You need to have all the bells and whistles,

1393
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:38,880
you need to get your needle sharpened. Do not sleep

1394
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,480
on these things. I made the mistake of going through

1395
01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:44,280
a very difficult boss fight before I had the double jump.

1396
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,119
I really could have used that double jump, you guys.

1397
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 5: There are some things too where it's like there's only

1398
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,719
a few, like actual needle upgrades, and like your needles

1399
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,559
are your main point of attack, so it's like you

1400
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:57,639
have to get this pale oil stuff to upgrade it,

1401
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,480
and like I got a purple of them all right,

1402
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,960
and it was like a third one that it's like

1403
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:03,280
I kind of like, I was like, how do I

1404
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,199
get to needle updates? And I did a few times

1405
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:06,599
like search, like I need to need a update.

1406
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: I did a search too. I got really stuck on

1407
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:10,599
one of them. I just could I didn't know what

1408
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:10,920
to do.

1409
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1410
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,119
Speaker 4: I don't think that's like a shame for me. I

1411
01:05:16,239 --> 01:05:18,400
kind of want to hear, like I really appreciate your

1412
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,440
opinion on this. I like also want your Mike's opinions.

1413
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,519
Like it's like ex journals, there's been conversation about this

1414
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:27,719
game from like a journalist because journalists didn't get this

1415
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,360
game early, which means they had to kind of get

1416
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,400
through really quickly.

1417
01:05:31,639 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: Maybe what I just said funk off married to the

1418
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,360
people that I do see that, Like one thing that

1419
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,519
is kryptonite to me is like games, media entitlement stuff. Yeah, sorry,

1420
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:50,800
I I yeah, maybe we should beat that. I probably don't. No,

1421
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:53,719
I'm sorry.

1422
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: I thought you were.

1423
01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: I thought you were genuinely upset.

1424
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: No, I think that's super h was annoying. It was

1425
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,639
annoying that like people were complaining about that. I get that.

1426
01:06:06,159 --> 01:06:06,920
I saw that. Yeah.

1427
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the same thing I had where it's like

1428
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:12,320
when whenever I would say journalists complaining about going to

1429
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,840
E three because it's so much work, you know, back

1430
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,440
in the day, I'd.

1431
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck, Like this is the you're get

1432
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:17,920
paid to go to E three with the complain about it.

1433
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 5: When there was a point where there was like a

1434
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:21,440
steam glitch and a lot of us journalists like got

1435
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,280
are like press accounts, like we couldn't log into it,

1436
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,840
and I saw people tweeting.

1437
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a big problem.

1438
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,199
Speaker 5: It's like, no, this is a major crazy perk of

1439
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,119
the job, and suddenly you don't have it, like this

1440
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,719
is not a problem. This is you don't like we

1441
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,239
get a lot of benefits and stuff and stuff like yeah,

1442
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:38,960
you're gonna be okay, and so, like I kind of

1443
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,679
did feel that way with the Holli Night stuff, where

1444
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:43,079
it's like when I saw that it was not coming

1445
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,239
out earlier, it's like, yeah, okay, I'll play it a

1446
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,920
bunch when it comes out, It's fine.

1447
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,639
Speaker 4: Well. I read one review that, uh, broadly was like, listen,

1448
01:06:52,719 --> 01:06:55,400
this game is like so punishing that it's like almost

1449
01:06:56,199 --> 01:06:57,320
mean to the player.

1450
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:00,559
Speaker 3: That's a very not fair TLDR.

1451
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:02,239
Speaker 4: But if I were to cliff notes it, I felt

1452
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,280
like that was what this reviewer was saying, which is

1453
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,760
like it's almost like cruel for as the purpose.

1454
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: To be crazy.

1455
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, And my kind of reaction to that was, but

1456
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,360
when I get frustrated at this game, I can go

1457
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,840
to bed and I can have a snack, and I

1458
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,960
can watch TV and relax. But a person who like

1459
01:07:22,159 --> 01:07:25,119
needed to review this game probably as fast as possible

1460
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:29,280
was not given that grace, and thus was probably really

1461
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,480
angry trying to get through this game as fast as possible,

1462
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,119
and thus that might have actually, like.

1463
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,119
Speaker 1: I think thought process at is I don't think you

1464
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:41,199
should have to beat a game like this to review it.

1465
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,480
I think there are people finding a way around sorry

1466
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:45,239
to give a final verdict on it, I think you

1467
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,000
should beat it. Let me say that, I think I

1468
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:51,840
think anybody complaining that they are like killing themselves to

1469
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,760
beat this game in order to review it has more

1470
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,840
of a problem with their We really should beat that out.

1471
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,880
But like that that is failure of management at that website,

1472
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:07,039
not Team Cherry, like you you're taking it out.

1473
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: I agree the systems.

1474
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:10,119
Speaker 4: The system is broken, right, and you can kind of

1475
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,199
hear it in their writing sometimes. For sure, get broadly,

1476
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,559
I'm not trying to like call it anyone specifically, and

1477
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:17,239
some of these in some of the reviews, I was like,

1478
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,000
you just sound mad, like you had a miserable.

1479
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 5: And I'm sure, but like again, that's not that can

1480
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,960
be self imposed or that can be bad management. Where

1481
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,399
I've had it both ways, where it's like you know,

1482
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,600
Death Stranding and Red Dead Redemption two. I rushed through

1483
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,760
it because I like no one at Giant. It's not

1484
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,600
like Vinnie was being like you better fucking like No,

1485
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,560
it wasn't that. I just kind of felt like I

1486
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,239
need to do that, and I played it in a

1487
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:40,399
not optimal way and didn't like the game as a result.

1488
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,079
But there are also times where It's like I was

1489
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:45,039
a Game Informer and I had to fucking review you

1490
01:08:45,119 --> 01:08:48,039
have a deadline for a print edition of a magazine,

1491
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:52,319
and it's like Mario Luigi Dream Team, which was insanely long,

1492
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:55,079
and it's like fifty sixty hours or something, and I

1493
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,079
had to like spend an entire weekend, which this is

1494
01:08:57,119 --> 01:08:59,359
when the three DS's were chained to the desks because

1495
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:01,760
Nintendo's and say and so I had to like spend

1496
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,199
the weekend at the office punched over a fucking three

1497
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,399
DS or DS whatever it was the time, because I

1498
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,920
was flying out Sunday night and I had to hit.

1499
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: The off them'll experience that's the thing.

1500
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 5: It's like that, Yeah, that step is fucked in a

1501
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,920
million different ways. And also it's like, yeah, games journalism

1502
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,720
typically doesn't pay very well, So it's like, yeah, when

1503
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,319
you're paying people, you know, twenty thousand dollars a year

1504
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:21,760
and then expecting them to spend their entire weekend and

1505
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:24,960
like it's like, yeah, I can there are very valid.

1506
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:25,399
Speaker 2: Complaints for sure.

1507
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yes, absolutely, And that that can vary wildly

1508
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,640
depending on whether you're just a solo Twitch streamer or

1509
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,560
you work for val net or something yeah, fair.

1510
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,159
Speaker 1: When I say it's just a failure management, there are

1511
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:37,680
many factors of play into it. I do think some

1512
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:45,399
entitlement comes out, and also, uh, I worry or I

1513
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,319
think that. Like a lot of times when it comes

1514
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:53,680
to video game reviews, we do put a lot of

1515
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,000
stock in someone finishing game before they give a final

1516
01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:58,359
verdict on a game, which I get because there's some

1517
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,840
shit can happen in the last third review. Well, we

1518
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,479
were talking about Resume four earlier. It's like, you review

1519
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,439
that game based on the first act, it's a ten

1520
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,640
out of ten. You review the game based on the

1521
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,319
first two of three acts, nine out of ten. You

1522
01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:12,960
review the game this these days, and I might get

1523
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,399
fucking crucified for this. I think it's like eight out

1524
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,479
of ten. But like it's still an amazing game. But like,

1525
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,560
if you didn't play that third act, you can't offer

1526
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,640
a final verdict on that game.

1527
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: I was adamant about always beating games.

1528
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,399
Speaker 5: If I was going to score too, I think game, yeah, yeah,

1529
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,159
beating it, But like I was going to give a

1530
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:31,560
score and write a review, I had to beat it

1531
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,000
for sure.

1532
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and yeah, so like I don't want to

1533
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,880
get im I clearly riled up, but like.

1534
01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: Want, I'm very curious what you guys think about stirred

1535
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,239
a lot of emotions. Yeah, when I when I was

1536
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,560
playing it and when I was reading other reviews of.

1537
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,199
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, it did call into question what team Cherry

1538
01:10:51,279 --> 01:10:56,039
Owes people. They've been working on it forever. I think, like,

1539
01:10:57,079 --> 01:11:02,000
here's the thing. I think, if you have a game

1540
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:06,119
that you're confident in and you think, given enough time,

1541
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:08,359
people will love it, if they can play it at

1542
01:11:08,399 --> 01:11:12,560
a good pace, it behooves you, the developer the publisher

1543
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,640
to give out code as early as possible. Obviously, then

1544
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,159
that doesn't take into account how long it can take

1545
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:23,159
to get I don't know. We see for my day job,

1546
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:26,159
we see quite a few games we play a month

1547
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,199
out and then there's still some technical things, and then

1548
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:30,640
all of a sudden, the game released in a month

1549
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,720
and they fixed it. It's not that simple. They had

1550
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,119
to put a lot of work in to fix it.

1551
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,720
But there's also the flip side where it's like, Okay,

1552
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,479
well we think our game is good, but it's not

1553
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,520
ready technically until two weeks before launch. We're still going

1554
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,039
to give it to people, so they have some time beforehand.

1555
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,079
Had Team Cherry given people two weeks to play this

1556
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,760
game as opposed to just letting them jump in on

1557
01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:00,720
or giving them release dy codes, with that been any better,

1558
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:03,520
I think people would have still said, like, sorry, two

1559
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,960
weeks is actually a lot like a week like when

1560
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:08,039
the game we don't know that the game was ready

1561
01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:10,520
to go two weeks before release unless Team shared.

1562
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: Is that wasn't the reason though. The reason wasn't because

1563
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,800
the game wasn't ready. The reason was because of.

1564
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: Back kickstarter or backers.

1565
01:12:17,159 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: Sure the reason they gave, Yeah, they basically said it

1566
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,039
was unfair.

1567
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So at that point, like I guess they were

1568
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:31,720
faced with does Press deserve to play the game before

1569
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,840
people who before.

1570
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 5: Or with I mean, I respect the decision they made,

1571
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:38,000
Like I think I'm sure I totally understand that, and

1572
01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:40,960
like it's tough because like some people are in genuinely

1573
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:42,920
tough physicians with this where it's like you know, like

1574
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,840
managing editors and things like that, and companies are like,

1575
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:47,880
you know, if they're saying, like we need a scored

1576
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,000
review asap because this is going to drive a lot

1577
01:12:50,039 --> 01:12:51,479
of clicks or whatever. That sucks that you have to

1578
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,439
rush through and everything. I think the right answer is, hey,

1579
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,600
have the reviewer take it, take their time with it,

1580
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,239
and review it when it's ready. The ones I really

1581
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,840
sympathize with are the ones, like, especially a game like this,

1582
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:07,079
which the amount of guides for this fucking thing. Oh guy,

1583
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:10,199
he's the best rosary farming location. Here's a guide for

1584
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:13,319
every fucking one of these fifty bosses or whatever. Here's

1585
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,880
like all these interactive maps and all these things. And

1586
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,399
like the people that have to put together guides for

1587
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,319
this game, which, by the way, that's what all like

1588
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:23,680
a bunch of fucking sides. One is guide stuff, you know,

1589
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,039
driving traffic and stuff like that, and they are most

1590
01:13:26,039 --> 01:13:29,760
of the time paying freelancers fucking pennies, and they're expecting

1591
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,840
this shit because like, oh, people are playing it at

1592
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,760
the minute, this game goes live, and we better have

1593
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,880
these guides ready. Like that has to be so shitty,

1594
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,199
Like there's so much work on such a crazy timeline

1595
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,760
for nothing, And like I really sympathize with anyone who's

1596
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:47,520
been putting that situation.

1597
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:48,359
Speaker 2: That fucking sucks.

1598
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,119
Speaker 1: Guys. Writers keep the lights on many sites, although to

1599
01:13:52,199 --> 01:13:55,359
your point, they're not rewarded commensurate to those efforts.

1600
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean whether you're a writer or a

1601
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,239
guide writer or whatever, but like guide writing is an especial.

1602
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:03,279
Speaker 1: Can they can play an open world game or sorry,

1603
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,560
a reviewer can play an open world game and like

1604
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,920
decide that they've seen enough side content miscellaneous stuff to

1605
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:11,439
get an adequate overall view of the game. Guys writers

1606
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,439
don't have that luxury. They have to say, oh, I have.

1607
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:19,119
Speaker 5: To go do all of these I have every lost

1608
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:21,479
flee in this game. I need a guide the second

1609
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,520
day it's out or whatever.

1610
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: I need to go beat. I need to go bea

1611
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:29,239
do every single cave in Borderlands for because then I

1612
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:31,800
can't tell people about the six one. So like, yeah,

1613
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,760
that sucks, and I shouldn't sound so callous because I

1614
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:36,920
empathize with the people who are dealing with that when

1615
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,159
they get the game on release day. I think for me,

1616
01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:41,880
it is the entitlement that like it's expected no matter what,

1617
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:44,359
and like that is part of the system of like, Okay,

1618
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:47,880
the developers the publishers should release this beforehand. But to

1619
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,720
Mary's point, there are other backers who have been you know,

1620
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:52,479
taken into account here.

1621
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 5: So it's I don't fault Team Terry at all. For this,

1622
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,439
and I also don't fault them for we're talking with

1623
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,680
the difficulty stuff. You know that has been a lot

1624
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,399
of the course and criticism is how brutal this is,

1625
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,680
and you know, it depends on the game, because it's

1626
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,000
like there are things where it's like elden Ring, you

1627
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:11,520
don't pick a difficulty, and I like that they're very

1628
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,880
confident in kind of the balance of their game, and

1629
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,720
you know, there are ways that you can just kind

1630
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,439
of like to use it an over level yourself and

1631
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,439
things like that, and you can kind of force your

1632
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,560
way through possily then blood Borne, a lot of front

1633
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,119
games and everything. I mean, there are the people that

1634
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,640
get mad when it's like, oh, there's an easy mode

1635
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,079
for this game, where like I remember it was like

1636
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:29,920
a fucking thing when I think the first Bayonetta came

1637
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,960
out and it was like there was a mode where

1638
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,039
it's like, hey, if you just want to see the

1639
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:35,199
story and see all the flashy cool stuff in Banetta.

1640
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:36,800
I forgot what they called the mode, but it was

1641
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,560
just like a super easy mode where you can literally

1642
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,479
mash a and just watch Bayonetta do all these fucking

1643
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,840
cool combos and stuff that's great, like like let's say,

1644
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,279
you know there's any kind of like disability or you're

1645
01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:48,880
just not don't have the reflexes or the history of

1646
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,880
that type of genre or something like that. You just

1647
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,479
want to see, like Baneat is a fucking cool game

1648
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,520
to look at, so like you don't need to like

1649
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,439
pass a DMV test to fucking play Bayonetta. You know,

1650
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,920
this is on the more brutal end, And I think

1651
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,199
I don't want every game to be like this, because

1652
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:07,199
I do think it would shut out a large amount

1653
01:16:07,239 --> 01:16:10,680
of the audience. But I think just in that kind

1654
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,319
of like anys kid nostalgic way, let's like I don't

1655
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:16,600
have an option. Look, I can't go in the options

1656
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,600
and change a pery window or something like that. Like

1657
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,920
I kind of like that, like anyone who's gone through

1658
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,840
this game has had the same experience. But I also

1659
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,680
understand if someone doesn't like the game because of that.

1660
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,119
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I I'm not as far as you two.

1661
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,640
I think Silksong is a great game so far. And

1662
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,159
I've never really talked about Hollow Night on fire Escape,

1663
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:43,119
but I think that's also a great game. I think

1664
01:16:44,039 --> 01:16:48,119
Team Cherry clearly in certain respect has incredible design chops

1665
01:16:48,119 --> 01:16:50,920
when it comes to boss fights. Overall world design, I

1666
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,199
think they are up there with Fromsoft in terms of

1667
01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:56,760
like creating a world that's interconnected in a way where

1668
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,479
I feel like I'm rewriting pathways in my brain when

1669
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,000
I play their game, when I play Hollow Night, and

1670
01:17:02,079 --> 01:17:03,720
when I play Silk Song, I feel like, I like

1671
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,560
the games world maps are creating wrinkles in my brain

1672
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:12,239
that weren't there before. I I think I have a

1673
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:14,560
similar feeling with Silk Song that I did with Hollow

1674
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,239
NIGHTE that sometimes I feel like I'm forgiving Team Cherry

1675
01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:23,079
because the they're so good at payoff that I'm forgetting

1676
01:17:23,399 --> 01:17:26,600
that I'm forgiving them for a lot of minor annoyances.

1677
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,319
Speaker 5: It's not even the abuselling at times, like there are

1678
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:32,079
a couple of benches where like, hey, I made it,

1679
01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:32,560
and it's like.

1680
01:17:34,039 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like I felt this way with Hollow NIGHTE.

1681
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,079
It's like I feel like we talk about Hollow Night

1682
01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:42,319
with reverent terms because it is really fucking good game.

1683
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:44,720
It's it's up there with one of the best games

1684
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:49,119
in the last decade. I think it's incredible. I also think,

1685
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,359
and I don't I'm kind of putting words in Team

1686
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,760
Cherry's mouth or like assuming a lot on their part,

1687
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,800
whether intentionally or not, I think they're they're confusing frustration

1688
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:04,359
slash annoyance with challenge. I think I think meaningful challenge

1689
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,720
is a very tough balance to strike. I think I

1690
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,520
think I'm of the opinion that elden Ring, Actually I

1691
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,600
love elden Ring. That game is unreal. I still think

1692
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,159
about it to this day every day. I still think

1693
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:20,680
some parts they made a bit too approachable. I almost

1694
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,920
wanted a bit more mystery, a bit more obstacle in

1695
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,720
the way of me getting to my goal, whereas with Silksong,

1696
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:34,720
just minor enemies are more annoying than they are than

1697
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,039
they are challenging. And and like again I'm I'm sure,

1698
01:18:38,199 --> 01:18:41,159
and I've I'm I'm doing well in the game. Like

1699
01:18:41,239 --> 01:18:43,720
I said, I'm not that far or I'm not as

1700
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,800
far as you two. But like I got the glide,

1701
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,840
I'm now doing the air vents and whatnot. I thought

1702
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,880
that that area was incredible, how they designed that, how

1703
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,119
you you literally cannot get back out unless you figure

1704
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,199
out the right path with the glide. It was great.

1705
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,760
Like as a level design geek, I was geeking out.

1706
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,640
I also just think so much the time when I'm

1707
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,319
doing run backs or whether I'm just exploring and trying

1708
01:19:06,359 --> 01:19:08,640
to map out the world in my head, which is

1709
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,640
where Hollow Night the first game clash for me as

1710
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,399
well metro Vania aspects, And again this game is also

1711
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,800
in a lot of conversation with what it even means

1712
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,720
to be a metro Vana. But that's like a whole

1713
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,279
other thing. I think I'm trying to build this map

1714
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:28,199
out in my head and I'm getting annoyances and frustrations

1715
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:32,399
that aren't challenging. They're just more they're chores to do

1716
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,560
rather than they are meaningful challenge.

1717
01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you're saying.

1718
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,039
Speaker 5: Like there are some enemies just like going to run

1719
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:40,800
back whatever where it's just like a lot of flying enemies.

1720
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,640
Will be things where it's like, look, this isn't a

1721
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,279
thing where I have to like train and learn myself

1722
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:46,840
with the patterns. It's just like you jump up and

1723
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,640
you try to slip them and they're always backing up

1724
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,079
and stuff like that. Just this is some little asshole

1725
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:53,159
that takes three hits. Let me just kill them so

1726
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:54,960
I can get past this thing. And it's not like

1727
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,680
a satisfying thing. Yeah, you'll get hit more than you

1728
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,399
should and you just get angry, and it's god damn it.

1729
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:00,880
Now I have like half my health and I got

1730
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,560
out of this boss.

1731
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: But the game is so fucked. Team Cherry's so fucking

1732
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,840
good in both of these games, especially Silk Song, that

1733
01:20:07,279 --> 01:20:10,560
they're so good at payoff that I do end up

1734
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,159
forgiving them for those small annoyance, not small, for those

1735
01:20:13,279 --> 01:20:16,479
major annoyances, to the point where I'm like, oh god,

1736
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,119
now this game's incredible. But then, like Amanda walks by

1737
01:20:20,199 --> 01:20:22,359
when I'm playing in here, and I'm like, and she's like,

1738
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,680
how are you liking it? And it's become a running gag.

1739
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,399
When she walks by, She's like, do you hate her

1740
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,600
or do you love it? I'm like, I love it,

1741
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:30,520
And then like twenty minutes later she asked me. I'm like,

1742
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,760
this is fucking stupid. Team Cherry like does not know

1743
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,239
what they're doing? Like, of course, of course, I'm obviously

1744
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:37,920
being a dick when I say that. I know they

1745
01:20:38,039 --> 01:20:40,000
know what they're doing, but you get what I'm saying, Like, no,

1746
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:43,079
they don't. They don't understand the difference between meaningful failure

1747
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,079
and just fucking being annoying. And yeah, they're definitely trolling

1748
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:48,439
you at some points when you sit on the bench.

1749
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,920
That en then is a Indiana Jones switch. That Jen

1750
01:20:51,039 --> 01:20:53,680
fucks you up when you just finally got there after

1751
01:20:54,199 --> 01:20:56,119
not even a run back, just getting through this tough

1752
01:20:56,199 --> 01:20:57,880
area that you were trying to platform through and kill

1753
01:20:58,039 --> 01:21:02,760
minor enemies. And the boss fights are great. Some boss

1754
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,399
fights kick my ass. Other the the Giant that's kind

1755
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:08,800
of like the one where you do fall in the

1756
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,960
lava when he's punching the platforms. You got the foe

1757
01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:13,720
arms like I did, not Like I got, Yeah, I

1758
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,640
got I think I got hit once and I once

1759
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,079
shot him. Yeah, And and it was like the spectacle

1760
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,039
the I figured it out, Like that was kind of

1761
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:22,600
like a gimme on their part. That's like, hey, and

1762
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,800
I'm I'm sure some people had difficulty with that. I

1763
01:21:25,119 --> 01:21:29,239
I just happened to do that boss fight. Yeah, we

1764
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:32,439
get it. I'm way better at games and everybody, and like,

1765
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:37,239
I you know that that was like kind of every

1766
01:21:37,319 --> 01:21:39,119
once in a while it does feel like they are

1767
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,800
being aware and offering an olive branch and saying like, hey,

1768
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,239
we know you're going through quite a bit. Here's a

1769
01:21:46,319 --> 01:21:49,640
moment of like generosity on our parts. But outside of that,

1770
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,119
I'm also Mary. It's funny we were talking about warfare earlier.

1771
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:56,159
You're like, that's not what I want out of my

1772
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,600
entertainment right now, Like, and I totally get that.

1773
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,399
Speaker 4: Getting beat I'm at war three to six hours in

1774
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,520
evening right now with a game that is pushing me

1775
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,560
to my fucking limit, and it is.

1776
01:22:08,399 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 6: It is.

1777
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:11,239
Speaker 4: I've said this a lot. The word that I usually

1778
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,680
have been using to describe this game is brutal. Is

1779
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,079
brutal to my thumbs, to my mental state, to my patience.

1780
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 3: I am still happy. I sleep good at night. I am,

1781
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,600
I am satisfied. I love this game.

1782
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:29,039
Speaker 4: But it is like it would be a lie to

1783
01:22:29,119 --> 01:22:31,439
say that I love every minute of this game. I

1784
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,560
am getting through the game, and I am, and I

1785
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,319
reflect on it, I'm like, I can't believe I accomplish

1786
01:22:37,399 --> 01:22:40,279
that there are sections of platforming that are so fucking

1787
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:41,399
insane in this game.

1788
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: I the ascension that I just did to you, it was.

1789
01:22:52,039 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: All the way on the.

1790
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,399
Speaker 3: Left map of the game, in.

1791
01:22:57,119 --> 01:22:58,359
Speaker 2: The freezy mountain.

1792
01:22:58,439 --> 01:22:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the freezing Yeah.

1793
01:23:00,039 --> 01:23:02,239
Speaker 4: I mean I said it so many times I was

1794
01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:06,199
like just so brutal, Like we're at different levels of play,

1795
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:08,159
and I'm not that far behind you in terms of

1796
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:10,439
how many hours I put into this. I must have

1797
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,880
spent hours just trying to climb and dying to the

1798
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:17,039
end before. I was like, there has to be a

1799
01:23:17,359 --> 01:23:20,600
bench around here, and I just start hitting random walls.

1800
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 3: Sure is shit. I do hit a random wall. There

1801
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,920
is a bench, and it costs eighty dollars that I

1802
01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:32,479
don't have because I've been dying in a frozen wasteland.

1803
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: And so I go.

1804
01:23:34,399 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 4: I take the train, I take my bug train and

1805
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,039
I go and I get and I go kill some

1806
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:41,680
bugs and I get eighty dollars, and I take the

1807
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,000
bug train back and I run up this fucking mountain

1808
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,399
and I'm freezing my ass off, and I have to

1809
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,439
get through this area, this gauntlet with all of.

1810
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 7: My shit, and I die, and then I have to

1811
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,640
get back and I have to get my shit or

1812
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,920
I have to go. I have to take the train

1813
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,920
back to Bugville. You know this stress that I had

1814
01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:01,680
on my body.

1815
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 4: When I got back, I cut my silk, got all

1816
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,960
my beads back, and sat on that bench that I bought.

1817
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 3: That's like the best value bench I ever got.

1818
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,319
Speaker 4: It's like the equivalent of like when you were like

1819
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:15,680
twelve and you have any fucking money, and your parents

1820
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,680
were like, get a job, bitch, And so you work

1821
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,279
really hard and you mow, and you get like fifty

1822
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:23,119
cents every time you mow, and eventually you have enough

1823
01:24:23,159 --> 01:24:25,920
for McDonald's cheeseburger and it's the best goddamn cheeseburg you've

1824
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,800
ever had because you bought it.

1825
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:28,279
Speaker 3: That was that bench.

1826
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 4: This bench was the sweetest bench of my life because

1827
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,000
I earned it. It was so hard and I sat

1828
01:24:34,079 --> 01:24:35,279
on and I was just like, oh good.

1829
01:24:35,359 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: And then and then I watched The Great British Bake Off.

1830
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been watching the new season as well.

1831
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,560
Speaker 3: It's the only thing that cures me.

1832
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: It's a good balance, for sure.

1833
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 5: Are opposite of All the Night Mary. I know exactly

1834
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,600
what you mean, because, like I, you know, bio water

1835
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,039
is an area that everyone hates so much for a

1836
01:24:52,079 --> 01:24:53,920
good reason because like the magns, you fall in, you

1837
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:54,840
can't heal and all that.

1838
01:24:55,079 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 3: Oh right, you can't heal if you fall in the

1839
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,560
I know exactly what you're talking about. That's a mean area.

1840
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's so much platforming and bullshit enemies and things

1841
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,359
like that, and I desperately wanted a fucking bench. And

1842
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,159
I finally got a point where it's like I'm so

1843
01:25:08,319 --> 01:25:10,720
scared because it's like, okay, I got a couple masks

1844
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,560
left of Health, and it's like, okay, I just need

1845
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,279
to find the fucking bench. And then I see the

1846
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:16,720
rings that you know, chakra or whatever like leaves, like,

1847
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,359
oh my god, I think I'm your chakra. I think

1848
01:25:18,359 --> 01:25:19,880
I'm gonna be able to buy the map. This won't

1849
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,560
be in vain. And then I got for and she's like,

1850
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,239
all right, eighty roachar.

1851
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1852
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:33,079
Speaker 5: I used three rosary beads short I had seventy seven,

1853
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,640
and I was like, okay, there's gotta be some fucking here,

1854
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,520
and I'm going back and I'm like one floor.

1855
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 3: Some tiny slug bugs so that you can buy.

1856
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 5: This fuck about And every fucking thing I find is

1857
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,720
just dropping shards. It's like something about buy a water

1858
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,840
or whatever, like no one has any fucking rosary beads.

1859
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,600
I put on the tool that makes it in case

1860
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,840
some rosary beads fall or something that will just suck

1861
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,520
up to me or whatever. No, And I'm a half

1862
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,800
hour in, I'm still just desperately. Just give me two

1863
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:00,760
fucking beads.

1864
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,079
Speaker 1: I don't.

1865
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,399
Speaker 5: And then I finally I like went out of bio water.

1866
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,000
I went, I took this, took forever. I found some

1867
01:26:08,119 --> 01:26:09,960
other area where I went in. One of those little

1868
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,239
bugs is there, and I killed him and I got

1869
01:26:11,279 --> 01:26:12,960
like five or whatever. I was like, oh, thank god,

1870
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,079
I'm gonna go back. And I just backtracked my whole

1871
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:19,840
way back there, and she's fucking gone, She's not there,

1872
01:26:20,359 --> 01:26:22,479
Are you kidding me?

1873
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 6: And I had to backtrack all the way to a billway. Yeah,

1874
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:36,079
moved a fucking it was fucking maths.

1875
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, King Roll guy or whatever, and King God can

1876
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,399
grow the biggest swamp guy or whatever. And he got

1877
01:26:48,399 --> 01:26:50,920
a bunch of ads and the maggots and stuff. King Roll,

1878
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,640
I think that's his name for something.

1879
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: Next King Hommie.

1880
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: Oh I get it, King.

1881
01:26:59,279 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: Plant. Yeah. Sure, there's Dave girl a bit. No, this

1882
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,279
is not to me to me, okay, so merritt. You know,

1883
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,840
obviously I came around on Mary.

1884
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 2: Podcast.

1885
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 5: I super came around. I came around on Holid night.

1886
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,840
I appreciate the first night I beat the game, So

1887
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,239
I definitely didn't feel the need to.

1888
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 3: Like or like totally a situation or anything.

1889
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 5: But it's like, Okay, I get it, and like a

1890
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,760
lot of my frustrations still kind of remained. But like

1891
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,920
I think with Silk Song, I think it's an important

1892
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,079
thing if this game turns you out, like the idea

1893
01:27:44,079 --> 01:27:45,479
of it and people talking about how brutal it is.

1894
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:50,239
I think the first ten hours or so are probably

1895
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,840
like bosses will get harder, a platform will get harder,

1896
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,239
and things like that. But like at a certain point,

1897
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,079
you've got more health, you've got more tools, You've got

1898
01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:02,359
basically low doubts that you can set up to make

1899
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,119
things easier in tweaks. So if you're dying and beating

1900
01:28:05,119 --> 01:28:07,039
your head against boss whatever, you can be like, all right,

1901
01:28:07,119 --> 01:28:07,720
this isn't working.

1902
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Let's go back here.

1903
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll put on this bell that helps me against

1904
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,479
fire tacks because it has fire attacks. I'll use the

1905
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,119
cog flights here.

1906
01:28:13,159 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Well, I just got this thing.

1907
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 5: I'll play, or maybe I'll go and i'll explore for

1908
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,880
a while. I'll get a new you know, crest or something,

1909
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,359
and I have a whole new attack style or something like.

1910
01:28:19,399 --> 01:28:22,840
There's there's I almost feel like it gets easier after

1911
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,840
that first hump, because like you don't have options you

1912
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,000
can switch between. Like early on, like it gets like

1913
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:29,840
you know, the last judge and some of the harder

1914
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:30,920
boss fights and stuff you.

1915
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 2: Can't do a lot.

1916
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,119
Speaker 5: And by the end, when you've got double jumps and

1917
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:37,279
glides and air dashes and the fucking like the claw

1918
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,119
thing or whatever, like, you've got so much mobility and

1919
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:41,880
you have so many tools, and hopefully at this point

1920
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,159
you've got a lot of mask shards and more silk

1921
01:28:44,279 --> 01:28:44,840
and things like that.

1922
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,239
Speaker 2: Like there's just different ways you can approach it.

1923
01:28:47,359 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 5: So I do think it lessens the blow a bit

1924
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,960
of the harder parts, And so I think for that

1925
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:55,960
and other reasons, Like I mean with the first one,

1926
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:59,159
the difficulty wasn't really the thing that ever bothered me

1927
01:28:59,199 --> 01:28:59,439
about it.

1928
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,159
Speaker 3: But like, no, I actually I don't even remember.

1929
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 4: I think I remember like a couple boss fives being hard,

1930
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:06,640
or the Gauntlet. Do you remember that where you had

1931
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,640
to do wave after wave after wave That was very

1932
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:10,439
difficult for me?

1933
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: But I think it was optional. I'm pretty sure you

1934
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,159
didn't have to do it anyway.

1935
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 4: I just don't have these memories of being like what

1936
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,279
a difficult game. I just remember being challenging. This game

1937
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,640
I would describe as difficult. I would say it's not

1938
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,840
for the faint of heart. I do love this game,

1939
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,239
and I recommend this game, but I would not recommend

1940
01:29:28,279 --> 01:29:30,239
it for someone who is looking for like a fun,

1941
01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:31,439
casual Metroid Venia.

1942
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what this is.

1943
01:29:33,079 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 4: I think this is like a absolute brutal test of

1944
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,319
a game. It will challenge you to your core. It

1945
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:46,399
is for someone who is looking to be punished, but

1946
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,800
I think it's worth it. I do think it's worth

1947
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,880
it to go through it, but it's not for everyone.

1948
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:53,079
Speaker 5: And I think it's brutal in ways that are better

1949
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:54,920
than the way the first one was, because the first

1950
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,840
one would be a little player unfriendly and things that,

1951
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,479
like the things that frustrated me were more like, Okay,

1952
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,560
I know we're need to go, but the closest fast

1953
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,199
travel station is like I got a fucking hike all

1954
01:30:04,359 --> 01:30:05,880
the way over here, and like you still have to

1955
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:06,119
do that.

1956
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:09,279
Speaker 3: It's it's not two seems now, which I appreciate.

1957
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Bellwigh and the things.

1958
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they've created new mechanisms.

1959
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,239
Speaker 4: I think their level design has gotten better to Mike's point,

1960
01:30:15,279 --> 01:30:18,520
I actually think it's more seamless, where like usually the

1961
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,439
end takes you back to the beginning or to a

1962
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,720
new cool area and it all flows together. Sometimes it's brutal,

1963
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,680
but I also think that's also intentional, where they're like,

1964
01:30:27,159 --> 01:30:29,880
if you go down this direction, there's no way back,

1965
01:30:30,039 --> 01:30:31,359
you have to go all the way and.

1966
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,199
Speaker 1: Find the first fucking half hour. That like the fact

1967
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:36,439
that like all those drops bring you right back to

1968
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,279
where you started. That as someone who needs to try

1969
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:43,880
every direction to explore, that annoyed me. But like, I

1970
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,439
don't know what the lesson was they were trying to

1971
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,079
teach me. I'm sure there was one, but the first one.

1972
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:50,399
Speaker 5: Was definitely more annoying in that, like it was longer

1973
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,720
hikes to a fast travel or to a bench or whatever.

1974
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,720
And also in a game where like you're not getting

1975
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,119
XP as you're right attacking enemies and stuffs, so basically

1976
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:01,159
like yeah, you'll get some like shard or rosary beads

1977
01:31:01,279 --> 01:31:03,399
or something, but ultimately like you're not getting stronger, so

1978
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,319
you're just like, I gotta walk twenty minutes of this

1979
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,880
fucking thing and to what benefit. Whereas this one it's

1980
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,520
a little quicker between them, and you can attach things

1981
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,680
that will help you get more shards and rosary beads

1982
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,079
and stuff like that. Like I felt like I was

1983
01:31:15,159 --> 01:31:18,319
wasting less time in this game. To me, it's the

1984
01:31:18,359 --> 01:31:21,680
difference between like a Metroid and a Super Metroid, where

1985
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,159
it's like Metroid was a great game on the nes

1986
01:31:24,399 --> 01:31:27,439
it established a lot of things that made that series awesome,

1987
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,399
but Super Metroid just refined it in a million ways

1988
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,760
and is a much better experience overall. Like that is

1989
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,479
I feel like the mobility the move said of Hornet

1990
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:41,319
is so much more interesting. I got the much more interesting. Yeah,

1991
01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:42,720
I got the crest that lets you do the downward

1992
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,319
pogo and all this stuff. I've never equipped it because

1993
01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:47,319
it's like I love the fucking diagonal Hunter.

1994
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 3: Oh you like the diagonal?

1995
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 4: I like the Hunter, which is the spin and I

1996
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,880
think that one is just how I've spent most of

1997
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:55,399
my life.

1998
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 5: Or is that the Reaper or is that the Reaper

1999
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,359
a bunch? And that's like it just kind of does

2000
01:32:00,359 --> 01:32:01,680
an arcing downwards.

2001
01:32:01,319 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: Just doesn't arcing down It's so nice for platforms.

2002
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:06,520
Speaker 5: I've done it for some boss fights. The Reaper one's better.

2003
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,039
But like I really like I clicked with the like

2004
01:32:09,159 --> 01:32:11,000
the Pogo stuff like back and forth stuff like that.

2005
01:32:11,159 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 3: That one's better for damage as well. People like the

2006
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,359
the Pogo one you're talking about.

2007
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just get a bunch of shit in really quick. Yeah.

2008
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just like, like, I know a lot of that,

2009
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,920
like the Hunter's march and buy water, like a lot

2010
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,319
of stuff when you're bouncing off, like flowers and stuff like.

2011
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,359
I had a little bit of a learning curve for that,

2012
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,000
but once I got it, it was like, no, actually

2013
01:32:31,079 --> 01:32:32,760
I like this a lot, like kind of like position

2014
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,359
in mid air, kind of pause, a little bit hit

2015
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:35,880
of the gain, and then once you get the claw

2016
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,439
grab thing or whatever, like just I love that mobility

2017
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,600
stuff later in the game. So it's it's uh, it's

2018
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:43,920
an un grab is.

2019
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,239
Speaker 3: Where you shoot out the needle and then zip z.

2020
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 5: You can use that for mobility, and you can also

2021
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,000
kind of use it as an attack attack bounce off

2022
01:32:52,119 --> 01:32:53,960
of an enemy and you can bring that into a

2023
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,239
pogo situation or whatever.

2024
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 2: That's cool.

2025
01:32:56,079 --> 01:33:00,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've enjoyed that attack as well. There was so

2026
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,119
the last boss fight that I.

2027
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 4: Got really truly, truly truly stuck on. It was right

2028
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,239
after truvio. So it's kind of like the culmination of

2029
01:33:11,319 --> 01:33:15,840
that area. You need to get these different audio reels.

2030
01:33:16,039 --> 01:33:17,680
I forget what they're called, but you need to get

2031
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,159
three songs memorized.

2032
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,239
Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, and one of them in this area

2033
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,479
is behind waves of enemy um in the high holes.

2034
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2035
01:33:27,159 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 3: I want to say, it's like six waves of groups

2036
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,119
of enemies which are brutal.

2037
01:33:31,279 --> 01:33:34,159
Speaker 4: I think it's ten, and then a solid mini boss

2038
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,479
and then there's three more maybe four more waves enemies

2039
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:43,079
and then two two of that and that Dan. I mean,

2040
01:33:43,119 --> 01:33:45,800
I must have gone through sixty seventy lives, like I mean,

2041
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,079
I spent days on it. I spent days on it.

2042
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:49,680
I spent days on it.

2043
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 5: That was the moment I probably died like ten times

2044
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,279
to it. And I was like, Okay, I know there's

2045
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:58,479
one more pale oil upgrade for my needle I can do. Yeah,

2046
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,800
like I had googled it before, Like, how do I

2047
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,239
get the next needle upgrade? Do you have to do

2048
01:34:03,359 --> 01:34:05,359
this whole taste of farloom side question? You have to

2049
01:34:05,399 --> 01:34:06,840
get five different things, and one of them is no

2050
01:34:07,279 --> 01:34:09,680
courier question. Did you do the fucking courier.

2051
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,079
Speaker 2: Quest where you have to run the thing back in

2052
01:34:11,159 --> 01:34:13,239
like five minutes, and like, have you done walls?

2053
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,399
Speaker 1: Quists are crazy on Sword from Akarina.

2054
01:34:18,319 --> 01:34:20,319
Speaker 4: Have you seen the ones where they're like if you

2055
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:24,079
see uh, you'll your tracker like in the Witcher, and

2056
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:26,199
so you see a body and it's like you hit

2057
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:29,960
a track button and you see they're like body gases.

2058
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 3: And you have to follow it through all these enemies.

2059
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,199
That's like six things too, and I did the Cogharts.

2060
01:34:35,319 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 4: I mean, like these side quests are fascinating and they're

2061
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,880
worth doing, but they are massive detours, massive detours. They

2062
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,800
can sometimes take you hours to get these like little upgrades.

2063
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I did every one of them.

2064
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 5: I did everyone because like it's like still kind of

2065
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,319
unclearer how you unlock Act three, Like people know certain

2066
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:54,479
prerequisites and stuff. But like most guides I've seen, it

2067
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,439
been like I don't know, just do most of the

2068
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,479
town quests and so like I was like all right,

2069
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,880
every time, like there's like three base where there's like

2070
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,239
a quest board and it's always like, oh, get all

2071
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:05,479
these like purple flowers, get all these things, you know,

2072
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,199
find this merchant or whatever. I did every single one

2073
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,319
of those, and so yeah, it's a lot of hunting

2074
01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:12,279
down stuff and like, I'm proud of you go through

2075
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:14,560
the belways and get eight silver bells and they just

2076
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,800
kind of randomly spawn and like there's so much that

2077
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:17,600
shit you have to do.

2078
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,039
Speaker 3: That's really cool. I think like this game.

2079
01:35:21,359 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 4: On the on the good side, like phenomenal at surprising

2080
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,119
you with really fun side quests and kind of mixing

2081
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:29,439
it up.

2082
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: There is a thing that happens that has happened to

2083
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,920
you and me now where like an enemy attacks you

2084
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:40,039
and then they actually like capture you. That blew my

2085
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:43,880
fucking mind. And I was like, this is this is

2086
01:35:44,039 --> 01:35:47,560
like the type of shit that makes me love video games.

2087
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,520
I did not expect this.

2088
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 2: Rethink you're dead, and it's like, oh something else happened.

2089
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do this and to like pick me up

2090
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:57,439
and put me in a new location like this and just.

2091
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,319
Speaker 1: As Bloodborne esque, it was awesome, say middle your solid ask,

2092
01:36:01,399 --> 01:36:02,279
but yeah, oh my.

2093
01:36:02,359 --> 01:36:05,239
Speaker 4: God, it's it's really awesome what they were able to

2094
01:36:05,319 --> 01:36:07,319
pull off in this one. So anyway, I love it.

2095
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:11,439
I know that we haven't beaten it, which this goes

2096
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,079
against well, you you kind of you've rolled credits at

2097
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:14,880
least Jane.

2098
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: I've rolled two sets of credits.

2099
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,119
Speaker 5: Now I could right it was between I'm not sure,

2100
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:22,600
but basically, I have beaten the Final Boss twice in

2101
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,680
two different ways, and I've unlocked the Act three situation,

2102
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,680
so I've seen two different sets of credits.

2103
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to challenge you to fuse this.

2104
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,399
I'd like to challenge all of us to fuse it.

2105
01:36:38,319 --> 01:36:40,359
Speaker 5: Okay, I got a number that popped up my head

2106
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:45,439
right away. I think nine point five cool based on

2107
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:46,279
my twelve hours.

2108
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fair. I mean, obviously you can

2109
01:36:49,359 --> 01:36:50,840
adapt it when you play more.

2110
01:36:51,239 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 1: Uh eight, based on the first twelve hours.

2111
01:36:59,399 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 3: We have, I want to do a nine point five two.

2112
01:37:03,359 --> 01:37:07,720
We've always been like, I've been anti half score. I

2113
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,039
can't give it. I can't give it perfect.

2114
01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 4: I've had like some minor foibles with it, but I

2115
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,439
think it's damn close. I think it's like one of

2116
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,319
the best games I've played uh in recent years. I'm

2117
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,359
I'm obsessed with it, So I think it's a it's

2118
01:37:20,359 --> 01:37:21,359
a nine point five.

2119
01:37:22,199 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think it's I was talking to Bunk,

2120
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,479
and I do think, like, if there's a mount rushmore

2121
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,640
of Metroidvanie is I think if you asked me. Right now,

2122
01:37:31,279 --> 01:37:34,359
it's Simphony the Night, It's super Metroid.

2123
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:40,359
Speaker 2: It is this, and oh boy, I really like.

2124
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:45,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know yeah, like blood Stained or Prince

2125
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:47,239
Persia the New Last Crown or whatever.

2126
01:37:47,319 --> 01:37:52,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would swap out Prince of Persia for axiom

2127
01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:56,119
Verge probably actually the first first actium, yes, second one,

2128
01:37:56,319 --> 01:37:57,800
first the first one?

2129
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:58,399
Speaker 2: So good?

2130
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: Now complex is I Without getting into stuff that we'll

2131
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,520
talk about the next episode, some other stuff has pulled

2132
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,399
me away in a way I did not expect same.

2133
01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:14,199
So Silk Song is us. It's great so far. I

2134
01:38:14,279 --> 01:38:16,319
really want to keep playing it again. Every time I

2135
01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:18,640
think I'm like ready to give up, not not give

2136
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,680
up from challenge, but like give up from like all right,

2137
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,680
there is too much frustration here, the payoffs are not

2138
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,760
worth it. I get a big enough payoff and Team

2139
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,920
Sherry again. It feels like it was by design the

2140
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:32,680
whole time, even though again like I'm I forgive some

2141
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,840
little annoyances and then I get the glide, and all

2142
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,880
of a sudden, more areas of the map open up,

2143
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,920
and I feel like I'm kind of on my way

2144
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,000
in the momentum builds and I love hitting those walls.

2145
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:46,199
You know, I love from software stuff. I love, you know,

2146
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,239
meaningful failure, trying to figure out what went wrong, trying

2147
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:51,199
to figure out what are some ways I can bolster

2148
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:55,680
myself my character rather to to make things slightly easier

2149
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,399
the next time. So I want to keep playing this.

2150
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,319
The world's just great. Every time I enter a new biome,

2151
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:04,560
I'm like, god damn. Like it's not just a biome

2152
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,880
from a narcistic direction. It's like every biome has its

2153
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,159
own specific flavor of like fuck you, you can die

2154
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:10,760
this way.

2155
01:39:12,119 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 2: And and yeah considering you.

2156
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,039
Speaker 5: Sorry to interrupt, but it's like also it all has

2157
01:39:16,119 --> 01:39:18,960
that kind of underground bug type thing, and even within

2158
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:20,439
that kind of like it's such.

2159
01:39:20,319 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 1: A unique art direction.

2160
01:39:22,359 --> 01:39:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

2161
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean right at the beginning when you're dashing through

2162
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,600
and those birds are all flying off, it's a gorgeous

2163
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:30,880
every time there.

2164
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has moments of beauty and and comedy.

2165
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,119
Speaker 1: It's so fucking funny. I want to talk about This

2166
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:42,840
game is hilarious. Fuck what was it? It was? What

2167
01:39:43,079 --> 01:39:46,239
was it? It was another like it was an enemy

2168
01:39:46,359 --> 01:39:48,159
the same size as me. It was a boss fight.

2169
01:39:49,039 --> 01:39:52,000
The Lace, yes, Lace and Lace said something at the

2170
01:39:52,039 --> 01:39:56,359
beginning it's like you're both like are you an enemy? Like, yeah,

2171
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,399
are you gonna are you gonna fight me? And then

2172
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,119
all of a sudden, like it just escalates it a

2173
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:02,439
way that feels very believable because both of you you

2174
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,680
could tell they don't want to fight. And I've only

2175
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,680
fought Lace once, so don't spoil stuff if I'm assuming

2176
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:12,800
I'll run into Lace again. But Liken, you're both like, wait,

2177
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,079
you have a sword, but so are you. You're holding it,

2178
01:40:15,159 --> 01:40:16,520
you're pointing at me, and then all of a sudden

2179
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,319
you start fighting. You're like, no, I would have rather

2180
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,359
not fought you. This would have been great, but now

2181
01:40:20,399 --> 01:40:21,520
all of a sudden, like you're in a fight, and

2182
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,359
that's a fight took me like five tries. But yeah,

2183
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:29,119
it's uh, the game's great. I I I like it

2184
01:40:29,239 --> 01:40:31,720
a lot, and I'd still be playing through it like

2185
01:40:32,119 --> 01:40:34,680
as my main thing if other stuff hadn't come up.

2186
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:41,720
But yeah, it's absolutely uh an unapologetic game. I think

2187
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,479
that and everybody can agree.

2188
01:40:43,279 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 5: On yeah, And going into it, I was as I

2189
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,640
think neutral as someone could be, where it's like I

2190
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,800
was not caught up in the hype cycle. I was

2191
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,199
aware of It's like just kind of the meme of oh,

2192
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,600
whins silks, I'm going to actually come out, But like

2193
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,600
you know, I liked the first one came around on

2194
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,319
I wasn't like chomping out of the bed, like, oh oh.

2195
01:41:00,359 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 2: Fucking folk song. It's the biggest thing.

2196
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,520
Speaker 5: Like, I went into it completely neutral and I was like,

2197
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,520
I might hate this, I might like it, and it

2198
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,560
really really won me over in a big way, and.

2199
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:12,039
Speaker 2: I do consider it. Yeah, one of the best metro

2200
01:41:12,079 --> 01:41:12,880
advaniers I've played.

2201
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think are so cute.

2202
01:41:18,079 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 4: Thank you, Yeah, thank you, and thank you for sending

2203
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,840
so many people to my chat to tell me that

2204
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:26,600
they really wanted me to play this game because you

2205
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:27,279
recommended it.

2206
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad you listened.

2207
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm just glad. Yeah.

2208
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 4: That's been really it's been the cherry on top of

2209
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,800
the Sunday of losing the same boss battle fifty times

2210
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,840
in a row in my chat is finally winning and

2211
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,520
having someone being like, now, aren't you glad that Dan

2212
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,680
recommended this because it's been pretty.

2213
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 3: Relentless. I will remember this, Dan, I believe it.

2214
01:41:50,039 --> 01:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I know.

2215
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:56,159
Speaker 1: Just give this number one game in the uh under

2216
01:41:56,159 --> 01:41:58,239
the Radar category for Game of the year.

2217
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of nowhere thing.

2218
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, shock and awe Dan recommended category.

2219
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, you should just be prepared because it's gonna

2220
01:42:10,039 --> 01:42:11,239
come up multiple times.

2221
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 5: I'll take the name of the year more than we've

2222
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,000
done with five of these or something. Now, Yeah, this

2223
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:19,720
is just going to be this is.

2224
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 3: Going to be a blood bath. I'm excited about it.

2225
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:25,560
Speaker 1: We said that most years, but like this one. And

2226
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,199
if you if you had said this, if you had

2227
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:27,960
said this too much.

2228
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,079
Speaker 3: Ees to like, this is crazy stuff.

2229
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Going three Expedition thirty three.

2230
01:42:33,399 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 4: Not that I've played these, like some of these are

2231
01:42:35,079 --> 01:42:36,920
still under embargo, but I'm just saying, like, these are

2232
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,000
games that are going to be prolific. I know they're

2233
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,560
probably going to come up. I think there's going to

2234
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,079
be like big things to talk about.

2235
01:42:43,359 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: If you had said that two months ago, I would

2236
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,159
have been like, no, this is a boring year. But

2237
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:47,760
all of a sudden, it's really interesting.

2238
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:48,239
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

2239
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,399
Speaker 2: I don't know there was a sleeper. Yeah, it's like

2240
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,239
the top five or six for me, like any order

2241
01:42:54,359 --> 01:42:56,800
right now I have not figured out. Yeah, it's insane.

2242
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,359
Speaker 1: Speaking of what's probably going to be in your top three. No,

2243
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,359
I shouldn't sa that because I think I think you're

2244
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,840
liking it a decent amount Borderlines four, Dan, you've been

2245
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:09,119
playing you and I I haven't.

2246
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 3: I would love I will get to it. But a

2247
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,680
silk song, lady.

2248
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,079
Speaker 5: I will give it credit certainly in that it is

2249
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,680
without a doubt better than three in every way. I mean,

2250
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,680
I didn't play a ton of three. I played enough

2251
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,920
of it to be like, wow, I am annoyed by

2252
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,560
this game now, Like this, the stuff that worked in

2253
01:43:29,039 --> 01:43:31,279
two thousand and nine, twenty twelve or whatever is just

2254
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:36,239
gotten old feeling by now in a lot of ways tonally, mechanics, wise,

2255
01:43:36,279 --> 01:43:39,520
and things like that. It's better, Like I think just

2256
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,600
the moment moment playing it is better. Like getting the

2257
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,479
certain mobility stuff like you know, the grapple hook thing,

2258
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:45,880
the glider and.

2259
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,359
Speaker 2: Things like that is good.

2260
01:43:48,039 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 5: They've toned down on a lot of the very kind

2261
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,600
of like meme redit humor type stuff that was extremely

2262
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:54,840
pervasive in three.

2263
01:43:56,359 --> 01:43:57,159
Speaker 2: There's still some of it.

2264
01:43:57,319 --> 01:44:01,039
Speaker 1: The two villains were like twin streamers. That was.

2265
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I and I know they were supposed to be

2266
01:44:04,359 --> 01:44:07,039
like annoying, but like it's not in a good way necessarily.

2267
01:44:08,199 --> 01:44:09,840
I don't know, like if I wanted to, like I

2268
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:14,159
don't play games online often, if I wanted to play

2269
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:16,960
a game with three friends where we could just kind

2270
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,840
of mindlessly do shit and talk and just kind of

2271
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:23,079
catch up. This is kind of ideal because like, you

2272
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:25,720
don't super need to I mean, the story is whatever.

2273
01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:29,079
It's like, there's very clear, like okay, here's the markers

2274
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:31,199
where you need to go. Everyone, Like you could basically

2275
01:44:31,279 --> 01:44:34,159
not even talk about the game and we could play

2276
01:44:34,199 --> 01:44:35,920
together and accomplish things and.

2277
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,039
Speaker 2: Talk and everything.

2278
01:44:37,399 --> 01:44:39,520
Speaker 1: But to interrupt really quick, I should say, for I

2279
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,520
don't know, I'm sure most people know by this point,

2280
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,239
but for anybody who doesn't know, it is an actual

2281
01:44:43,359 --> 01:44:47,520
like open world as opposed to the last three and

2282
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,920
two spinoffs, which were more like MMO zones. So yeah,

2283
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,720
this is an open world. There's a point you get

2284
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:59,039
to where the basically this an ally tells you, Hey,

2285
01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:03,079
there's a bought a villain in this biome. There's a

2286
01:45:03,159 --> 01:45:05,199
villain in this biome. There's a villain in this biome.

2287
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,159
Go at it in whatever order you want, Go kill them,

2288
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:15,119
collect guns, do side quests to that end, and then

2289
01:45:15,319 --> 01:45:18,600
we'll reconvene. So it's very Zelda in that sense. It's like, oh,

2290
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,399
up in the mountains you can go fight this dude,

2291
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,479
and then over in the desert you fight her. So yeah,

2292
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:25,279
just to lay out the structure.

2293
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then it's like, you know, when you boil

2294
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,840
it down, it there's just a lot of like shooting

2295
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,199
at everything you see. And then between it you kind

2296
01:45:34,199 --> 01:45:35,760
of go around to the battlefield and there's a million

2297
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,039
guns laying around and you're like, all right, these are

2298
01:45:38,119 --> 01:45:41,119
green arrows. Oh, that one's got acid, this one's got shock.

2299
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 3: I love those green arrows. That's how you know when

2300
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:44,119
it's good.

2301
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not really interesting because there's you know,

2302
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,439
you got shields, you got your guns, you've got your grenades,

2303
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,439
you've got all these different things, and it's like it's

2304
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,600
just a lot of looking at a bunch of numbers.

2305
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,760
And then like when you level up, you go to

2306
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,239
your skill tree and stuff and it's like, all right,

2307
01:46:00,319 --> 01:46:03,880
this one does a plus point two five percent of

2308
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,960
this when I reload, and it's just like, okay, I'll

2309
01:46:07,399 --> 01:46:09,279
get this ability. I don't know if it's gonna like

2310
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:11,880
if I will feel any different about you know, Like

2311
01:46:12,079 --> 01:46:13,840
I don't know if I'll notice this, you know, going

2312
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,279
board where it's like the stuff and like hollow night

2313
01:46:16,319 --> 01:46:18,039
and stuff to bring up soilk hung in is that

2314
01:46:18,199 --> 01:46:20,800
like you get something and it's like, oh, things are

2315
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,359
different now, Okay, I need to rethink where I can

2316
01:46:23,399 --> 01:46:25,640
get to and everything. And very very different games obviously,

2317
01:46:26,039 --> 01:46:29,479
but like I don't know, just the very incremental upgrade

2318
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,319
level up type stuff is not super satisfying to me.

2319
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,159
I like it in Borderlands when there's more gimmicky weapons

2320
01:46:37,199 --> 01:46:40,600
where it's like this one shoots three spinning rockets that

2321
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,720
all have corrosive damage and stuff like that. But like

2322
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:44,399
I don't know, in the first several hours of this game,

2323
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,800
it's a lot of like, ah, this is soul rifle

2324
01:46:47,079 --> 01:46:49,039
does a little bit more damaged and has a little

2325
01:46:49,079 --> 01:46:53,479
slower fire rate. Okay, sure whatever, so the same It's

2326
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:55,479
it is very very Borderlands.

2327
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 3: Do they have any like stupid guns though, like ones

2328
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,119
that like you know, out grenades that explode and then

2329
01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:05,279
when the gun runs out of bullets it becomes a

2330
01:47:05,319 --> 01:47:06,479
grenade and you throw it.

2331
01:47:07,079 --> 01:47:08,359
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean that.

2332
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had the whole like different like gun brands

2333
01:47:12,279 --> 01:47:14,239
and stuff and like all these guns instead of reloading,

2334
01:47:14,279 --> 01:47:16,000
you throw it and they blow up and you make

2335
01:47:16,039 --> 01:47:16,760
a new one or whatever.

2336
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like my.

2337
01:47:18,199 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 3: Memory with it where I was like, this is a

2338
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,199
crazy gun. These guys are crazy. You're not allowed to

2339
01:47:22,239 --> 01:47:24,840
do this. They would do it. They broke the gun rules.

2340
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,279
Speaker 5: I'm still I would say early on, and like most

2341
01:47:28,279 --> 01:47:30,760
of them have just been like assault rifles and SMGs

2342
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,000
and sniper rifles and pistols that are like different stats

2343
01:47:34,039 --> 01:47:36,720
of Like I'm sure those crazier guns are out there.

2344
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:38,840
I haven't seen them yet, and I'll just say that,

2345
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,760
like nothing about the game has like in the face

2346
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,199
of like right now is one of the craziest times

2347
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:47,039
of Like there are like five or six different games

2348
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:50,680
I have downloaded or I have started playing, and ones

2349
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,119
that are doing crazy awesome stuff that I'm like loving

2350
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:57,640
or whatever. Quarterlands for is absolutely not a priority for

2351
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,359
me to go back and play more of right now.

2352
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,640
It's low low low on the list and face everything

2353
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,880
else I'm playing, So I don't know if I'll go

2354
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:05,239
back to it.

2355
01:48:05,319 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 2: I you know, I hey, kudos to them. It's better

2356
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:09,399
than three for sure.

2357
01:48:10,119 --> 01:48:12,520
Speaker 5: I'm sure fans of Borderlands they're just kind of like

2358
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,239
one excuse shoot stuff and talk to their friends.

2359
01:48:14,399 --> 01:48:18,520
Speaker 2: It'll be great for that. It's not. Yeah, I don't know.

2360
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:19,720
I don't know if I'll play more of it.

2361
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I I will say, I feel like I

2362
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,760
did start getting a lot of guns that actually felt

2363
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,159
less like stat upgrades and more like functional changes. I

2364
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:33,279
will say, I do think it backloads a lot of them.

2365
01:48:34,159 --> 01:48:36,960
I think you start getting that the game really wants

2366
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,640
you to reach max level cap and then start doing

2367
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:44,079
endgame stuff, which three did two, And I think three's

2368
01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:46,239
endgame was actually really good. I played three a lot.

2369
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:50,880
I couldn't stomach any of the story either. I just

2370
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,640
kind of turned that off and listen to podcasts until

2371
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,119
I got to endgame, and I thought the endgame was

2372
01:48:54,159 --> 01:48:59,920
great in that game. But I I think it's fun

2373
01:49:00,279 --> 01:49:03,960
because this game, now that Borderlands is open world, it's like, oh,

2374
01:49:04,039 --> 01:49:08,239
this feels like it could have happened six years ago.

2375
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 2: It's still that's the thing.

2376
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 5: It's still like they've made movements to make it feel

2377
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,239
more modern, but it still feels old.

2378
01:49:16,279 --> 01:49:18,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I will say I still think I will I

2379
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,279
will put Borderlands three in this up there with like

2380
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,279
Destiny in terms of some of the best feeling shooters

2381
01:49:24,319 --> 01:49:27,399
on controllers. I think this feels incredible. Yeah, which is

2382
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,960
no easy task, but like I will also say, yeah,

2383
01:49:31,159 --> 01:49:35,279
a lot of the abilities are absolutely like I like,

2384
01:49:35,359 --> 01:49:37,760
you look at Path of Exile two, you look at

2385
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:42,199
even Diablo four. I'm trying to think of other loot

2386
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:46,319
shooter games like the I think Remnant two did a

2387
01:49:46,359 --> 01:49:51,479
really good job of those incremental upgrades. Still, you notice

2388
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,159
the difference Borderlands four. I think there's a there's like

2389
01:49:55,279 --> 01:49:59,039
every five levels you notice a slight difference because there's

2390
01:49:59,079 --> 01:50:04,239
some really cool center. I played the grav what's her name, Harlow,

2391
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,079
the GRAVI she uses like a gravity bomb. I was

2392
01:50:07,159 --> 01:50:09,800
using her gravity bomb. They each have three skill trees,

2393
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,039
so there's really cool synergies between some of those skill trees.

2394
01:50:13,079 --> 01:50:15,880
But you do have to go through some very minor

2395
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,079
stat bumps.

2396
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,399
Speaker 5: And I say bomb, like, there will be like five

2397
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,520
levels in a row where it's not exciting to level

2398
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:23,960
level yet.

2399
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,239
Speaker 2: All right, I'm just trying to get to the next

2400
01:50:25,319 --> 01:50:25,680
like layer.

2401
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, if you took your character at level one

2402
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,279
and then you took your character at level fifty and

2403
01:50:30,359 --> 01:50:32,279
you compare them, you're like, oh fuck, I built a

2404
01:50:32,319 --> 01:50:35,760
completely new character, but it's so seldom does feel like

2405
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:41,079
you're making a major bump, which Diablo four when it

2406
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:43,880
first released had that problem as well. Then they revamped

2407
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,000
it and now and I've talked about d before. I

2408
01:50:46,079 --> 01:50:48,119
think at some point, when things die down, we should

2409
01:50:48,119 --> 01:50:50,880
all play that game together, because I think they did

2410
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:55,279
some really interesting stuff to make those upgrades feel impactful

2411
01:50:55,399 --> 01:50:58,399
and actually changing how your character worked. And I do

2412
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,640
think Borderlines four takes a bit too long to get

2413
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,920
to those I agree wholeheartedly with that. I think the

2414
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:11,399
world's interesting as it can be. I like the villains.

2415
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,319
You're Dan, how far are you out of curiosity?

2416
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 2: Less than five hours?

2417
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, So I will say I think

2418
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,439
the game's story, although the story I don't love. It's like, basically,

2419
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,279
you've got the Timekeepers, the ultimate boss in this city

2420
01:51:25,319 --> 01:51:27,800
in the center of the map. You're also hunting down

2421
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:31,720
these three like his three lieutenants around the map. You

2422
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:33,760
start to pursue each of them, and I actually think

2423
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,880
the game does some cool things story wise with like

2424
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:41,000
oh this this boss also might not be super on

2425
01:51:41,119 --> 01:51:43,119
board with some of the shit the villain's doing and

2426
01:51:43,279 --> 01:51:46,800
might also be fomenting its own rebellion. So it does

2427
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,720
cool stuff like that to shake up the pacing a bit,

2428
01:51:49,239 --> 01:51:51,239
not enough. Again, I don't think that's going to be

2429
01:51:51,319 --> 01:51:52,399
like a thing to pull you through the.

2430
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 2: Game, but yeah it.

2431
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:01,159
Speaker 1: I think it did. I prove a lot on three

2432
01:52:01,359 --> 01:52:04,520
for sure. I would actually argue the end game kind

2433
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,680
of took a step back as someone who played a

2434
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,960
lot of three end game, like because I'm a fucking weirdo.

2435
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,319
So yeah, I'm not gonna play another I'm not gonna

2436
01:52:15,319 --> 01:52:16,880
play another hour of this game for a while. I

2437
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,560
do want to try other characters at some point maybe,

2438
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,920
but yeah, it's a you know, like if you didn't

2439
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,439
put a lot of hours into that already, then Silk

2440
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:31,119
Song and we've got Yote coming up, We've got Octopath Traveler,

2441
01:52:31,159 --> 01:52:33,119
We've got a lot coming up. So it's Hades two

2442
01:52:33,359 --> 01:52:35,760
and like three days from now if you're listening to

2443
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:36,359
this episode.

2444
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 3: So some big bangers coming out.

2445
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:44,279
Speaker 1: So it's I think Borderlands four is commendable for a

2446
01:52:44,319 --> 01:52:46,199
lot of the improvements it made, but it's also like,

2447
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,680
I don't think it's going to change your mind on Borderlands. No, definitely,

2448
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,079
So yeah, I'm I totally get that for sure.

2449
01:52:53,239 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 4: I just have such a strong history with border Lands,

2450
01:52:56,039 --> 01:52:58,760
Like I've always loved their wacky antics and their silly

2451
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,920
gun and like running around not caring. I think, like

2452
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,079
you were saying, Dan, it's friend slop, and to a

2453
01:53:05,159 --> 01:53:07,640
degree it might be the originators of friends slop because

2454
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,640
I never took that game seriously and they didn't take

2455
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:11,439
themselves seriously.

2456
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 3: I remember how many times.

2457
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 4: They would have like a boss who would like act

2458
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,399
so tough and then like self implode with one bullet,

2459
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:18,640
Like they were funny.

2460
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:20,239
Speaker 3: That game is cheeky.

2461
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,319
Speaker 5: But yeah, tonally they didn't take it seriously. But like

2462
01:53:23,399 --> 01:53:26,079
I think underneath that there were really great kind of

2463
01:53:26,359 --> 01:53:29,079
mechanics and the different builds you could make, and like, yeah,

2464
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:32,600
it didn't the humor in the tone was not serious,

2465
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,840
but as a game it was a co op game,

2466
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,640
it was fantastic.

2467
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm still tempted.

2468
01:53:39,359 --> 01:53:43,119
Speaker 4: I love stuff like that, and it is like a

2469
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:47,680
playful world, so I'd like to get into it. It's

2470
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,079
it's just a really challenging time. How dare all these

2471
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:52,159
games come out?

2472
01:53:54,119 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess is there any if there's no other

2473
01:53:57,159 --> 01:53:58,840
major thing people want to talk about? I do think

2474
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:00,520
I know, we have a few others we want to

2475
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:01,479
like hit quickly.

2476
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:05,159
Speaker 5: I think, sure, next episode and there's some embargo stuff

2477
01:54:05,159 --> 01:54:06,720
that will lift that we can kind of go into.

2478
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,239
Speaker 1: Next episode will be Hades two. Next episode, Yota, I

2479
01:54:11,319 --> 01:54:14,479
think will be out by that point. I think so, yeah,

2480
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,439
so there'll be a lot of episodes. But Mary, you

2481
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,920
and I both I believe dabbled with Shinobi because Dan

2482
01:54:21,039 --> 01:54:23,279
was going hard on recommending it and I did again

2483
01:54:23,399 --> 01:54:26,359
same thing. I literally played it. I was playing that

2484
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:29,439
interchangeably with Silk Song at first, and Dan I was

2485
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,279
messaging you, I was like, holy shit, Chanoby rules, like

2486
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:34,880
right off the bat, like, yeah, I've only played two

2487
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,159
hours of it and it already hooked me. It feels amazing.

2488
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:42,880
It like it's so good at onboarding you with skills

2489
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,720
you have at your disposal, and then just kind of

2490
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,560
letting you run wild, and all of a sudden you

2491
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,720
have this ability that just literally you dart to everybody

2492
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:52,199
in the screen and murder them. If you've played well

2493
01:54:52,319 --> 01:54:54,319
enough up to that point, that doesn't stop.

2494
01:54:54,399 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 5: I mean the entire game, it's just one thing after another,

2495
01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,000
like oh shit, that's awesome, Oh shit, that's awesome.

2496
01:54:59,159 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: Literally the The literal only reason I stopped is because

2497
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,319
I there's no way you can just dabble with Silksong.

2498
01:55:04,479 --> 01:55:10,560
You need to go all in. So Schanoby is number

2499
01:55:12,119 --> 01:55:14,239
outside of this other stuff I'm playing. I'd say Silksong

2500
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:17,520
is number one on my backlog. Shanoby is right behind it.

2501
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,920
But like, Schanobi felt like such a breath of fresh

2502
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,319
air from Silksong in a way that again apples and oranges,

2503
01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:25,359
they're not going for the same thing.

2504
01:55:25,399 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Well, you were the one in power in Shanoby.

2505
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: In Silksong, it's a power fantasy for sure. There's some challenge,

2506
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:34,720
for sure, don't get me wrong, But like, yeah, and

2507
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,359
I'm still wrapping my head around how the game is structured.

2508
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:41,199
To me, it feels like a Metrodvania divided into different zones.

2509
01:55:41,439 --> 01:55:44,319
Speaker 5: Do you ever play an Order of Ecclesiasvania? Yeah, so

2510
01:55:44,439 --> 01:55:46,920
that was different than standard Cakeslovania, and that instead of

2511
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:50,880
one giant map, it was like little sectioned off maps.

2512
01:55:51,039 --> 01:55:53,720
So it's like Metrovanias but in tiny little chunks, yeah,

2513
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,439
that are not necessarily connected by hallways and stuff like that.

2514
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: So it's like Order of Ecclesia basically for sure.

2515
01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:02,039
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, oh man, I really want to

2516
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:05,039
dig into Shinoby and fully immerse myself in that, And

2517
01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:06,760
I also want to do it Silk Song, and there's

2518
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,960
such different games. I gotta I will do that for

2519
01:56:11,079 --> 01:56:12,920
both of them before a Game of the Year, because

2520
01:56:13,279 --> 01:56:17,680
Shinnoby already is speaking my language on many levels. The

2521
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:24,319
platforming feels great. The platforming itself is very compelling. The

2522
01:56:24,399 --> 01:56:29,800
platforming it strikes that really good balance between action reactive

2523
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:34,880
platforming and puzzle solving platforming. So I'm already like, I

2524
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,840
really want to fucking know how to open that trapdoor,

2525
01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:40,880
like it it's got it tooks in me and I

2526
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,319
would be playing that fully if it weren't for everything

2527
01:56:43,359 --> 01:56:46,760
else going on. But like, yeah, it also, just like

2528
01:56:47,159 --> 01:56:50,560
breakneck Pace, does not let off the brakes in the

2529
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,239
first two hours the whole time. I'm assuming it probably

2530
01:56:53,399 --> 01:56:57,399
won't the whole time. I've never played it. I don't

2531
01:56:57,399 --> 01:56:59,720
think I've played I've touched a Shanoby game before.

2532
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my first I'm enjoying it too.

2533
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 4: It is for me very difficult to go back and

2534
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,119
forth between this and Silk Song because the moves are

2535
01:57:09,239 --> 01:57:09,720
very different.

2536
01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 1: I find myself warfare and Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

2537
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:19,199
Speaker 3: I am like, I'm dashing when I mean to be Yeah, attacking,

2538
01:57:19,319 --> 01:57:21,199
I'm very confused, so I don't like doing that.

2539
01:57:21,359 --> 01:57:23,239
Speaker 4: But in the three hours that I've spent with it,

2540
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:28,800
I've really enjoyed. Visually, this game is stunning. I absolutely

2541
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,319
love I got a knee up.

2542
01:57:31,399 --> 01:57:36,239
Speaker 3: From a roll yeah yeah, and it looks so good.

2543
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,560
It looks so good that I use it even if

2544
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,840
it's not appropriate, because I'm like, check out how good

2545
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,399
this looks.

2546
01:57:42,479 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 1: Like.

2547
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,479
Speaker 2: You laun in the air, jump up.

2548
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 3: You can keep them up in the air. You slamming

2549
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,640
them down using a jump and then a heavy attack

2550
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:55,359
down very fun, super effective, and again like doing using

2551
01:57:55,399 --> 01:57:58,640
the environment, so knocking them off cliffs, knocking them into spikes,

2552
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:03,520
like oh, hitting barrels that then explode at them. Juicy,

2553
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,840
super fun. I'm loving that aspect of it. I love

2554
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,920
that there are these skulls and areas that if you

2555
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,000
find them, you basically have to kill everything in that space.

2556
01:58:12,119 --> 01:58:15,760
Those unlack special medallions. I think that give you other things.

2557
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 4: I do really like all these fun pieces that they've

2558
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,000
put into every level so that you're not just getting

2559
01:58:23,039 --> 01:58:25,720
through the level, you're kind of exploring and experimenting and

2560
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:29,119
finding little challenges everywhere. Some of them are platforming, some

2561
01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:31,640
of them are combat, which is like my DNA, like

2562
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,520
that is my core of like, yes, you're gonna make

2563
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,640
me happy. My biggest issue so far has just been

2564
01:58:37,239 --> 01:58:41,159
every reward is like, here's six new moves, and I'm like, okay,

2565
01:58:41,439 --> 01:58:43,159
I haven't memorized the last forty.

2566
01:58:43,279 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can handle anymore. And they

2567
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,720
just keep they keep giving me more shit to memorize,

2568
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,960
and so like there was this time where they had

2569
01:58:51,039 --> 01:58:54,760
given me this move. There's like water based, fire based,

2570
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,479
electric based moves Avatar using your bumpers. You have to

2571
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,680
use left and right bumper and then and then the

2572
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,720
button of the element that you're looking for. And I

2573
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:07,319
kept accidentally, like you know, pressing water when I wanted

2574
01:59:07,399 --> 01:59:10,760
fire whatever. And then like like not even like ten

2575
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,760
minutes later, they were like and now and oh, which

2576
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:14,479
is like your left trigger and your right trigger. And

2577
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:18,119
I was like, bitch, I just learned this one.

2578
01:59:18,199 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: And I just kind of breathe a fireball.

2579
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, give me a second. This have you done

2580
01:59:25,039 --> 01:59:29,399
the giant face boss. He looks like Oma Tech or whatever,

2581
01:59:30,399 --> 01:59:31,359
and he keeps saying.

2582
01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 2: Like, show me what you got. I'm almost he's a face.

2583
01:59:38,079 --> 01:59:40,119
Speaker 3: He's a face on a wall. He's a face on

2584
01:59:40,199 --> 01:59:41,880
a wall. And he spits balls.

2585
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:42,159
Speaker 2: Out of his mouth.

2586
01:59:42,239 --> 01:59:43,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, you did do that.

2587
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,439
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, and he literally just says like show

2588
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,039
me your power. You're about to true power. He's so annoying.

2589
01:59:51,079 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 4: Anyway, I can't tell you many times I could have

2590
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,479
easily gotten through this boss much faster.

2591
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:57,159
Speaker 3: But every once in a while I would do this

2592
01:59:57,279 --> 01:59:58,960
boss and I would be like, right, I want to

2593
01:59:59,039 --> 02:00:01,640
do the fire and then I'd get attacked by lightning

2594
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:03,479
and I was like, no, you have to be faster.

2595
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 4: I have to basically before I get into a boss fight,

2596
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:11,840
memorize which moves I want on which buttons and practice them,

2597
02:00:12,239 --> 02:00:14,319
because in real time in these boss fights, I was

2598
02:00:14,359 --> 02:00:18,720
actually getting overwhelmed with which moves I wanted and which

2599
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,159
buttons resulted in the moves that I wanted, and so

2600
02:00:21,279 --> 02:00:23,000
that was a bit frustrating. For Other than that, I

2601
02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:25,000
think I'm just like loving this game, and I think

2602
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,399
it's a funny criticism to be like, you're giving me

2603
02:00:27,479 --> 02:00:28,279
too many moves.

2604
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm just pacing to that too. It's like I've already

2605
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,159
resigned myself to I'm probably going to restart this game

2606
02:00:34,199 --> 02:00:36,640
when I go back. I have no qualms with that,

2607
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,680
because I'm the first couple hours were so fun to

2608
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,960
begin with. I don't mind. But yeah, it's one of

2609
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,680
those things where it's it's okay, I just learned how

2610
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:47,479
to breathe a fireball, and now I learned how to

2611
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,319
attack everybody on screen. It's good. I can wrap my

2612
02:00:49,359 --> 02:00:51,800
head around that for another you know, stage or two

2613
02:00:52,359 --> 02:00:55,680
or screen or two rather, but then now it's showing

2614
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,600
you how to I will also say the way you

2615
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:02,760
can attack and dodge in one mid air role, and

2616
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:05,359
now I want every fucking game to have that, including

2617
02:01:05,399 --> 02:01:07,760
from Soft. Like that's one of those things you wish

2618
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:11,159
you could do in like elden Ring, but you can't.

2619
02:01:11,239 --> 02:01:13,680
It feels like a quality of life dodge. It's it's

2620
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,800
really good. This game feels so fucking good. Yeah, I've

2621
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,199
already resigned myself to starting over Mary because, like I agree,

2622
02:01:20,279 --> 02:01:23,399
it does throw shit at you really quickly, and it's

2623
02:01:23,439 --> 02:01:26,079
the polar opposite of silk song or silk songs. Like,

2624
02:01:26,319 --> 02:01:29,600
here's one thing master this over an hour before you

2625
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,079
get a new thing. Really a lot of frustration, a

2626
02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:34,159
lot of challenge, a lot of like it's gonna require

2627
02:01:34,199 --> 02:01:37,000
some resolve on your parts and dedication, where she'd always like,

2628
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,079
all right, we trust that you know how to fucking eliminate.

2629
02:01:40,119 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 3: You got two medallions. Here's six moves. We're so proud

2630
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:44,560
of you, we love you.

2631
02:01:46,199 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 2: It's such a power song.

2632
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 1: Mom.

2633
02:01:48,239 --> 02:01:50,279
Speaker 3: I've been like eight hours in a boss and it's like,

2634
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:53,720
you get nothing. We didn't even put anything here.

2635
02:01:54,119 --> 02:01:57,039
Speaker 1: We hate you, like like drinks.

2636
02:01:57,119 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2637
02:01:58,319 --> 02:02:02,199
Speaker 3: Like there's a complete opposite types of development studios, Like

2638
02:02:02,279 --> 02:02:06,840
they just want to harm you, and Shnoby is constantly

2639
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,159
giving me gifts and I'm like, my pockets are full,

2640
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,600
I don't want anything else, Grandma.

2641
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 1: It's all leave me alone. It's great, it's I love

2642
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,239
it for it.

2643
02:02:15,359 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 5: If somebody is having like if silk Song is not

2644
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:19,720
clicking for someone and it's just too brutal or whatever,

2645
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:25,279
I cannot imagine that better palate cleanser A yeah, some

2646
02:02:25,479 --> 02:02:28,520
similar ish you know, like two D kind of exploring

2647
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:30,960
tips off, but like you are the one killing everything

2648
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:31,920
in Shnoby.

2649
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: It's Barmenheimer, but with Ninja's Yeah, that's so sweet.

2650
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:40,399
Speaker 3: That's good.

2651
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 4: That's a really good comparison. I think they're both hard

2652
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:46,880
to like. I've been tested in Shnoby. I just think

2653
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:47,760
it's more graceful.

2654
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:48,439
Speaker 3: It's kinder.

2655
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,039
Speaker 4: It's like not putting, it's not giving me anything that

2656
02:02:51,079 --> 02:02:53,319
I can't figure out. There are times in Hollow Night

2657
02:02:53,319 --> 02:02:56,000
where I'm like, it's impossible, it can't be done. They've

2658
02:02:56,039 --> 02:02:58,199
obviously made this game impossible just to.

2659
02:02:58,239 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 1: Fuck with me becoming John mulaney talking about that game.

2660
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:05,119
Did anybody else hear that it can't be done? It's impossible,

2661
02:03:05,159 --> 02:03:08,479
it can't be It's impossible. I've got a nice suit

2662
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:13,000
that's being tailored. I gotta go pick it up more

2663
02:03:13,039 --> 02:03:15,479
than John Mulaney did.

2664
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,039
Speaker 3: In a way, it depends on how much cocaine you

2665
02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:17,479
give them.

2666
02:03:18,039 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm clean now these days. Girl. Yeah, but

2667
02:03:25,039 --> 02:03:30,199
Ioby uh Dan Praier recommendation. Immediately, it was like, yeah,

2668
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:30,960
this game rules.

2669
02:03:31,359 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 3: It's good. I want to play more of it.

2670
02:03:33,319 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 1: After those like first two hours, like just.

2671
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:37,479
Speaker 2: It only gets better.

2672
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 4: I also think, like for a long plane ride, I

2673
02:03:40,319 --> 02:03:43,199
personally don't know if Hollow Night is going to be

2674
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,399
that for me because I could see myself getting.

2675
02:03:46,199 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: Really plane ride seem way longer, yeah, like a.

2676
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:53,319
Speaker 4: Jail, Whereas I think Shanoby is going to be like, ah,

2677
02:03:53,439 --> 02:03:56,239
I have eight hours to enjoy this universe and fun

2678
02:03:56,319 --> 02:03:58,159
shit up like that is going to be a nice

2679
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:00,199
palate cleanser for me. So I think that is what

2680
02:04:00,239 --> 02:04:02,439
I'm going to be playing more of. I've just been

2681
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,439
trying to get. I think I'm closed Dan, but I

2682
02:04:07,079 --> 02:04:08,640
I don't. Actually I have not looked.

2683
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:11,079
Speaker 3: Up like where I'm at, but I am at Yeah,

2684
02:04:11,239 --> 02:04:13,319
I'm at well now, I don't know if I can

2685
02:04:13,359 --> 02:04:14,399
say it silk.

2686
02:04:14,199 --> 02:04:19,359
Speaker 2: Song or snowby Silk Song. I mean we've been spoiling, right,

2687
02:04:19,479 --> 02:04:23,760
I'm at the I'm at least the second time.

2688
02:04:24,119 --> 02:04:24,399
Speaker 3: Second.

2689
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh damn it, it's what I said. That's why I'm

2690
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:28,720
trying to say, Oh, you were worried about me.

2691
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,399
Speaker 3: It's the one thing, the one thing you said you

2692
02:04:32,439 --> 02:04:36,359
didn't want to know. Well, I ran into her again

2693
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,000
and she still pissed.

2694
02:04:40,119 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 2: Credits at all yet?

2695
02:04:41,039 --> 02:04:44,439
Speaker 3: Right, No, I don't think So, okay, can you be

2696
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:47,239
do credits without Yeah that's spoiler.

2697
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I know we were going

2698
02:04:49,479 --> 02:04:51,399
to ask and like, yes, you can see credits and

2699
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,800
then have another like I'll tell you this, I got

2700
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,119
credits around thirty two hours. I didn't see the Act

2701
02:04:57,159 --> 02:04:59,600
three slide until forty hours, Right, did you get?

2702
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:00,439
Speaker 3: And are there?

2703
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 1: Like?

2704
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:01,039
Speaker 3: Same thing?

2705
02:05:01,079 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 1: That's bad ending And it's at that point if you're

2706
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:05,199
not if you didn't finish the game.

2707
02:05:05,479 --> 02:05:07,359
Speaker 2: Some games do that and have like a bonus, you know.

2708
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,039
Speaker 1: Right, But it's act three. It's not epilogue.

2709
02:05:11,199 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 2: Act three is basically an epilogue.

2710
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm on to cherry. I don't think that there's know

2711
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:16,159
what they're doing. I think they're just a bunch of

2712
02:05:16,239 --> 02:05:17,760
rookies who are just like, oh, let's.

2713
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:20,239
Speaker 2: Make let's make things hard and frustrated.

2714
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:22,119
Speaker 6: Here.

2715
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:26,199
Speaker 3: Oh oh, are you so mad?

2716
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,239
Speaker 1: I don't know to fucking roll credits at the end

2717
02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:30,359
like a normal boy.

2718
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:33,439
Speaker 2: It's the encore.

2719
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,079
Speaker 1: Okay, that's better call it an encore. That'd be awesome. Uh.

2720
02:05:37,319 --> 02:05:38,960
You want to do some talk about emails?

2721
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2722
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:45,079
Speaker 3: I love yeah, eating them, thinking about them?

2723
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: Okay. As always, you can write into fire Escape cast

2724
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:52,720
at gmail dot com for questions, comments, concerns. Uh. We

2725
02:05:53,079 --> 02:05:56,640
have quite a few responses. From last episode. Dan had

2726
02:05:57,199 --> 02:05:59,720
mentioned that he was trying to figure out if he

2727
02:06:00,039 --> 02:06:03,399
he just apparently it keeps him up at night thinking

2728
02:06:03,399 --> 02:06:06,119
about if he was transported back to a castle in

2729
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:09,800
the Middle Ages and he was immediately going to be

2730
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,920
killed if he But what is a skill we have

2731
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:13,479
to have.

2732
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:18,039
Speaker 3: A simple man? Yeah, he can castle times?

2733
02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 1: What is a skill he could immediately show them that

2734
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:24,199
we have knowledge of that would paint him as a

2735
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:26,800
wizard or some sort to them, so they'd spare him.

2736
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:29,199
So we got a few of those that we have

2737
02:06:29,279 --> 02:06:31,000
some other questions, So thank you for writing in. But

2738
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:35,520
keep those questions coming. They're good enough. I'll put them

2739
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,279
in the show. If they're not into the bin, you go.

2740
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:44,119
Speaker 4: This is like the silk Song of email reading. We

2741
02:06:44,239 --> 02:06:46,079
won't even acknowledge your work.

2742
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 2: Yes, you get nothing.

2743
02:06:49,319 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: You stolef is he lifting drinks? Okay this one tonight

2744
02:06:56,279 --> 02:07:01,720
Alex and Bendigo not into the bin? Go he's written

2745
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:02,800
from Bendigo.

2746
02:07:03,439 --> 02:07:05,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna end this podcast on the.

2747
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:10,479
Speaker 1: White sheet black letters unfold. We must read them.

2748
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,119
Speaker 2: I don't even know what hot or cold?

2749
02:07:13,319 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: Mary? Do you want to read this first one from Alex?

2750
02:07:15,279 --> 02:07:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2751
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:21,359
Speaker 4: I don't understand what that impression was. No, Mike demanded

2752
02:07:21,399 --> 02:07:22,079
we all write in.

2753
02:07:22,319 --> 02:07:27,199
Speaker 1: We thought we demand. I think I politely requested, are

2754
02:07:27,239 --> 02:07:27,840
you way mad?

2755
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:29,159
Speaker 3: I'm just reading this guy.

2756
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 1: Alex from Bendigo. He Beniso is.

2757
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 3: Doing what he's told.

2758
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 4: H demanded that we all write in with what you

2759
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,960
could do in Castle Times. Mike, your three most prominent

2760
02:07:40,039 --> 02:07:45,920
elements are stupid. Voice you just did one stupid, the

2761
02:07:46,039 --> 02:07:49,439
fact that you're four foot nine, and that you were

2762
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:54,239
voted sexiest mandolin player by Mandolin Player Monthly magazine in

2763
02:07:54,319 --> 02:07:55,039
twenty twenty three.

2764
02:07:55,479 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 3: You will be a court jester.

2765
02:07:58,039 --> 02:08:01,039
Speaker 1: Fine that I'd be. I'd be trying to make him laugh.

2766
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 3: Cyborlthare.

2767
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:07,920
Speaker 1: Now you're doing Bob Dylan.

2768
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:14,079
Speaker 3: No, but that's like in like a weird gesture voice.

2769
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:20,159
Speaker 2: Wait the way Hans heaven.

2770
02:08:23,319 --> 02:08:27,079
Speaker 1: Man by me who she was?

2771
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:30,319
Speaker 2: Love mine?

2772
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 1: Tell you all right?

2773
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:36,319
Speaker 3: You live Mary.

2774
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 4: Given the opening of last episode, it's very clear you're

2775
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:41,239
the strongest talent.

2776
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: Is it not what he wrote?

2777
02:08:44,039 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 3: I think he said you're the strongest talent.

2778
02:08:46,319 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 4: What I mean, it's very clear your strongest talent is

2779
02:08:50,159 --> 02:08:53,800
one of the most vicious acid tongues to ever grace humanity.

2780
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 3: The level of vitriol, spite, and shame you can vomit

2781
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:01,840
out is terrifying and commendable. You would become the pope

2782
02:09:02,399 --> 02:09:04,079
less than three days.

2783
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 2: Political hope back then like ad fear.

2784
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:10,199
Speaker 3: Hello, shit, I don't know.

2785
02:09:11,159 --> 02:09:14,399
Speaker 1: Now we got a Chicagoan in the in the big seat.

2786
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:16,279
I don't know how you got there. Really, I don't

2787
02:09:16,279 --> 02:09:18,119
pay the billy. What's the guy's name, billy.

2788
02:09:18,439 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 2: I do believe that historically.

2789
02:09:23,039 --> 02:09:24,199
Speaker 3: We're super kind.

2790
02:09:25,319 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 1: Popes were pretty could be authoritarian.

2791
02:09:29,039 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 2: There's a Palatine pope that looked like the Star Wars emperor.

2792
02:09:32,079 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that's where that's where George Lucas got the idea.

2793
02:09:35,279 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

2794
02:09:36,039 --> 02:09:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that's really fair. I appreciate that.

2795
02:09:40,239 --> 02:09:41,600
Thank you, Alex uh Dan.

2796
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 4: Your only hope is that Manati is transferred back with

2797
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,159
you to act as a comparison point, so you might

2798
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:50,079
have any chance of seeming useful.

2799
02:09:50,319 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 3: You are still weirder.

2800
02:09:54,079 --> 02:09:56,039
Speaker 2: I do genuinely disagree with you.

2801
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 3: He gave you nothing.

2802
02:09:59,399 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly, that's fair. I think I take

2803
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:04,159
no offense to that. I I don't know what I

2804
02:10:04,199 --> 02:10:07,920
would have to offer Manati. I think Manatti would do

2805
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:11,439
all right, uh to sort of. I think he could sing,

2806
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,359
and he could cook meat and stuff. I do think

2807
02:10:14,439 --> 02:10:16,079
Manati might be able to do better than me and

2808
02:10:16,199 --> 02:10:18,840
Castle Times, because he'd like texting a lot of Castle

2809
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,880
Times fiction, you know, like Lord of the Rings and stuff. Yeah, yeah,

2810
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:25,359
Times Guy Zelda doesn't really work.

2811
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 3: Maybe both of you with your powers combined, though, you

2812
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,680
could have some kind of fun two.

2813
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:35,359
Speaker 5: Person act on stage or something like a like a

2814
02:10:35,479 --> 02:10:37,680
podcast with them who's on first.

2815
02:10:37,439 --> 02:10:40,399
Speaker 3: Type situation in Castle Times, you know, play.

2816
02:10:40,279 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 2: Off each other well. But yeah, I don't know if

2817
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,319
the Castle people are gonna.

2818
02:10:43,159 --> 02:10:46,439
Speaker 4: Like it without all your gaming knowledge, I just don't

2819
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:49,239
understand what we talk about, what material you have.

2820
02:10:49,359 --> 02:10:54,399
Speaker 3: You're like, what about this gruel? Yeah, I'd love to

2821
02:10:54,479 --> 02:10:59,800
hear Mike Minate's bit on gruel and like sleeping on straw.

2822
02:11:00,439 --> 02:11:02,399
Speaker 1: I would just tell them now, I would just tell

2823
02:11:02,479 --> 02:11:06,680
them like I would pretend I'm a fortune teller, Like

2824
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:08,479
I would just tell them, oh, Dave Girl has a

2825
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:11,600
secret baby like that. That's simple enough to tell them.

2826
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:13,479
Speaker 5: They're not going to live long enough, like what we

2827
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:16,359
were Castle Time. They're not going to live long enough

2828
02:11:16,359 --> 02:11:17,439
to know about Dave Girl.

2829
02:11:18,079 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 2: You're right, so the.

2830
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,159
Speaker 1: Battle of Hastings will be one no.

2831
02:11:23,079 --> 02:11:27,439
Speaker 2: Eclipses or something, you know, the.

2832
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:33,439
Speaker 4: Stars are actually uh bugs, and if you don't believe

2833
02:11:33,479 --> 02:11:35,920
in God enough, who is also me, they will come

2834
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:36,960
down and kill you.

2835
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:39,399
Speaker 1: You could probably figure out a way to frame yourself

2836
02:11:39,479 --> 02:11:41,279
as God. I think so.

2837
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:42,439
Speaker 3: I think i'd get away with it.

2838
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 1: A Ventura did it, I'd.

2839
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,079
Speaker 3: Either do it or die try.

2840
02:11:48,279 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 4: I think like I would go for broke right. I'm

2841
02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:55,840
not there to live a life of like stirring the soup.

2842
02:11:56,239 --> 02:11:58,960
That's just not who I was born to be. So

2843
02:11:59,359 --> 02:12:02,880
I'll go all in and say I actually am an

2844
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:06,960
ethereal being, and I will smite anyone who touches me

2845
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:09,600
or doesn't feed me and clothe me and bathe me

2846
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:12,239
and give me really good jewels and stuff, and then

2847
02:12:12,279 --> 02:12:13,239
hope it works out.

2848
02:12:13,239 --> 02:12:15,399
Speaker 1: Easy for you to say you got boobs. You could

2849
02:12:15,439 --> 02:12:18,600
just I know they'll they'll they'll be more than that

2850
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:19,399
you didn't have them.

2851
02:12:19,439 --> 02:12:25,560
Speaker 3: Back in Castle times, they're like they're so enamored by the.

2852
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:28,039
Speaker 1: First they've been fucking driving a Morocco around. All of

2853
02:12:28,039 --> 02:12:29,600
a sudden a range rover shows up.

2854
02:12:31,479 --> 02:12:33,439
Speaker 3: Take a look at these cattle bus.

2855
02:12:34,319 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Castle boys. They hope for is being just a

2856
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:42,520
well liked guy about town. I think that's it.

2857
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 5: I think I'm a friendly fellow. I think I get

2858
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,159
along with folks, and I think that you keep them living.

2859
02:12:48,279 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 2: Oh that I have know him Dan?

2860
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:52,439
Speaker 1: Just walking around asking people if door Dash delivers to

2861
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:53,000
the castle.

2862
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:57,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, just hoping people invite me over for dinner and stuff. Yeah,

2863
02:12:57,399 --> 02:12:58,640
that's the best I could hope for.

2864
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,439
Speaker 3: Someone's been milking the cows in the dead of night,

2865
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,640
and it's been you because you don't have a job

2866
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:07,359
and you don't know how to consume any food anymore, so.

2867
02:13:07,359 --> 02:13:09,399
Speaker 5: You've just Then they'd ask like you be like, oh,

2868
02:13:09,439 --> 02:13:11,279
is there anything I can do to help an exchange

2869
02:13:11,319 --> 02:13:11,800
for this dinner?

2870
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:13,279
Speaker 2: And then they'd tell me something. I'd be like, I

2871
02:13:13,319 --> 02:13:13,800
don't know how to do.

2872
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 3: You have any media I could review?

2873
02:13:17,319 --> 02:13:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, get out a microphones, We'll get out.

2874
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Alex.

2875
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah Dan. This one is from Paul in Middle Georgia.

2876
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:32,199
Speaker 2: I'm reading this.

2877
02:13:32,399 --> 02:13:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Okay, what to do? Read it? Hey?

2878
02:13:36,199 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 2: Hey, guys.

2879
02:13:37,359 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 5: If Dan were to suddenly find himself in Castle times,

2880
02:13:40,039 --> 02:13:42,399
I think Dan knows enough about the lingo and how

2881
02:13:42,439 --> 02:13:45,199
the sausage is made to be able to invent wrestling.

2882
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:49,199
Just find an investor, put a troop together, bing bang, boom.

2883
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:52,680
Mike could probably pull bullshit his way into becoming like

2884
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:55,840
a fence or something. Harry would be burned at the

2885
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:57,760
stake for being too intelligent a witch.

2886
02:13:58,319 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm offended and appreciate it.

2887
02:14:02,319 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to like a compliment slash insult.

2888
02:14:07,279 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean back then, I do think it happened a lot,

2889
02:14:10,159 --> 02:14:11,319
and I do think that is a part of it.

2890
02:14:11,359 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 2: Which stuff.

2891
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:14,439
Speaker 3: Well, my original plan of saying I'm just going to

2892
02:14:14,479 --> 02:14:16,439
say I'm a god and tell people I'll smite them

2893
02:14:16,479 --> 02:14:18,760
if they don't give me jewels and food. I think

2894
02:14:19,159 --> 02:14:21,319
it's going to go two ways. One is they're going

2895
02:14:21,359 --> 02:14:22,479
to be afraid of me and they're going to do

2896
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:23,800
what I say, and the other one is that they're

2897
02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:25,119
going to burn me at the stake. So I think

2898
02:14:25,199 --> 02:14:27,039
I do have like a fifty to fifty chance.

2899
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 5: I like what I think what Paul is saying here

2900
02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:34,239
is maybe one of the better actual things I could do,

2901
02:14:34,359 --> 02:14:36,760
which is just like take my knowledge of how like

2902
02:14:37,119 --> 02:14:39,720
the Carnie origins of wrestling and apply it to like

2903
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:42,800
it's a pretty timeless thing, you know, just have like

2904
02:14:43,359 --> 02:14:45,279
plants in the audience and be like nobody can beat

2905
02:14:45,319 --> 02:14:47,159
my strong man, and then have a plant that you know,

2906
02:14:47,239 --> 02:14:51,079
and they pay on the to watch the fight and everything, like, Yeah,

2907
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:54,319
I think I could invent wrestling one hundreds of years

2908
02:14:54,359 --> 02:14:55,279
before or at the.

2909
02:14:55,359 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 4: Very minimum, you could probably like just set up that

2910
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:04,039
actually are fake and then profit off of the money

2911
02:15:04,119 --> 02:15:07,920
that people bet because you know who's gonna win.

2912
02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 5: Well, that's say people thought it was real until like

2913
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:13,560
the fucking mid nineties. Basically, like imagine the fourteen hundreds

2914
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:15,600
or whatever, Like it'd be the easiest marks in the world.

2915
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:21,079
Speaker 3: Those stupid idiots. They don't even have electricity yet.

2916
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 4: Imagine what you could do with wrestlers that say that

2917
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:26,960
they got hurt amazing.

2918
02:15:27,079 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 2: They don't know work from a shoot back then.

2919
02:15:30,159 --> 02:15:35,000
Speaker 3: I still don't, And there I am burned at the stake.

2920
02:15:35,359 --> 02:15:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're screaming, your flesh is burning off, and I'm.

2921
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:40,000
Speaker 3: There, revolves.

2922
02:15:43,399 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 1: I would just be fucking silver tongue in my way

2923
02:15:47,199 --> 02:15:54,399
into that snatch. Snatch. Whoa, I'm gonna bullshit my way

2924
02:15:54,439 --> 02:15:57,600
into that snatch. Say that to the queen. See how

2925
02:15:57,640 --> 02:15:58,279
that goes down.

2926
02:16:01,199 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 4: He seems possible that we all die horrible death because

2927
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:08,640
Mike's trying to bang the clean. I think I'm a

2928
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:13,079
god and Dan gets over his head trying to set

2929
02:16:13,159 --> 02:16:14,199
up wrestling matches.

2930
02:16:16,239 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 1: We'd all go out the same we die. This the

2931
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:24,720
way we lived, truly, wrestling matches, connelings and burning.

2932
02:16:26,439 --> 02:16:28,239
Speaker 3: I wrestled the Fire and I lost.

2933
02:16:29,199 --> 02:16:30,760
Speaker 1: I wrestled Deck Clinton.

2934
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:31,239
Speaker 4: I won.

2935
02:16:31,479 --> 02:16:36,399
Speaker 1: Now it's gross. That's the grossest thing I said in

2936
02:16:36,479 --> 02:16:37,200
the why.

2937
02:16:40,280 --> 02:16:40,639
Speaker 3: About it.

2938
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:44,799
Speaker 1: I realized my credit. I realized that it was come

2939
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:46,040
out in my mouth, that it was gross.

2940
02:16:46,319 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 2: I wish my soundboard still work. I'd be using that.

2941
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:53,319
Speaker 1: Really good. Okay, I'm going to read it. Thank you

2942
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:56,040
Paul from Middle Georgia. I'm gonna read this one from

2943
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:02,639
Max from markham on tear, Hello, Firescape cast crew. I

2944
02:17:02,719 --> 02:17:04,920
did not own an original switch and about the switch

2945
02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:07,319
to and launch day after finally being in a comfortable

2946
02:17:07,399 --> 02:17:11,799
financial spot, currently going through both the back catalog of

2947
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:15,360
games and recently picked up Mario plus Rabbid's Kingdom Battle

2948
02:17:15,399 --> 02:17:18,399
on sale awesome game. And the characters in the Overworld

2949
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:20,040
run like some of the people I just saw in

2950
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:23,120
the movie Weapons. Hoping everyone in the podcasts has seen

2951
02:17:23,159 --> 02:17:25,639
this for the upcoming question, we definitely have. This run

2952
02:17:25,719 --> 02:17:28,280
could also be described as the Naruto run I guess

2953
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:30,799
I haven't seen the show. My question after seeing this

2954
02:17:31,079 --> 02:17:35,399
is if someone real or fictional was cursed to hunt

2955
02:17:35,479 --> 02:17:38,159
you like they do in weapons, who would be the

2956
02:17:38,239 --> 02:17:41,079
most terrifying. My first thought was that the kool a

2957
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:43,159
man was chasing me with his arms behind his back,

2958
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,520
eyes blank, trying everything in his power to kill me.

2959
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:50,520
I would probably lose my shit immediately. Any who Max

2960
02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:52,280
from Markham, Ontario, Canada.

2961
02:17:54,319 --> 02:17:58,319
Speaker 2: Bruce Scanlon, he's the sweetest boy in though. That's a thing.

2962
02:17:58,600 --> 02:17:59,879
That's exactly why worst.

2963
02:17:59,920 --> 02:18:03,719
Speaker 5: If suddenly Drew Scanlan was a weapon style running at me,

2964
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:06,680
it would be such a different Like Drew was just

2965
02:18:06,799 --> 02:18:09,719
so nice and calm and composed. So if he was

2966
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:13,879
like wild eyed and bleeding and sprinting at me trying

2967
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:16,920
to know something was something was terribly wrong.

2968
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:21,840
Speaker 3: For me, I'd be like, Drew, you need a doctor,

2969
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:24,760
come here, I have a band aid. And then he

2970
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:27,440
would snap my neck. I would never he pummels your

2971
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:30,120
skull with his skull, It would trick me immediately. I

2972
02:18:30,159 --> 02:18:33,280
would never. I would never assume anything bad could happen.

2973
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:35,559
Speaker 1: He could fly planes. Imagine him doing that from a.

2974
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:41,680
Speaker 2: Plane, like with his hands behind his face before he's.

2975
02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,239
Speaker 1: Just flying at you like a plane. I would same,

2976
02:18:44,360 --> 02:18:46,799
same reason they would. Jake Decker would terrify me such

2977
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:50,200
a like even headed, calm, cool, collected dude, one of

2978
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:51,920
my best friends. Like, if he was coming at me

2979
02:18:52,040 --> 02:18:55,760
like that, I'd that'd be weird. I guess my dad,

2980
02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:57,440
my mom, anybody close to me.

2981
02:18:59,559 --> 02:19:02,680
Speaker 2: If my day was running, I would know something was terribleness.

2982
02:19:03,559 --> 02:19:08,840
Speaker 1: Just running all his arms, the idea airplace them one.

2983
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:11,879
Speaker 4: Going floodlights connected to his feet. They're just dragging through

2984
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:12,840
electric cords.

2985
02:19:13,799 --> 02:19:15,520
Speaker 5: I did ask him one point. I was like, Hey,

2986
02:19:15,520 --> 02:19:18,040
when was the last time you ran? And he was like,

2987
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:20,719
I think that maybe I ran to my car while

2988
02:19:20,719 --> 02:19:22,600
it was raining once, like twenty years ago.

2989
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:25,040
Speaker 2: Like he just he doesn't run quickly.

2990
02:19:26,319 --> 02:19:28,559
Speaker 3: Probably nineteen eighty nine.

2991
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't move quickly.

2992
02:19:30,399 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 1: No.

2993
02:19:32,239 --> 02:19:35,399
Speaker 4: Because of one of the scariest movies I ever saw,

2994
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:37,879
Mike and I talked about this a lot, was It Follows.

2995
02:19:38,799 --> 02:19:44,319
Speaker 3: I think some of that was the randomness of like

2996
02:19:44,399 --> 02:19:46,760
a random person that just kind of freaks you out.

2997
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:48,719
I do think that.

2998
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:54,879
Speaker 4: Just a weird looking lady or dude that's naked would

2999
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:56,399
scare the shit out.

3000
02:19:56,239 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 2: Of me, because is a multiplier.

3001
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:02,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would just freak me out. And I think

3002
02:20:02,600 --> 02:20:04,600
that was something and that was a theme in that show.

3003
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:08,680
Speaker 4: Another one was because it was like, uh yeah, like

3004
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:11,479
people you well, the plot was kind of like people

3005
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:14,040
you had slept with were like the next in line.

3006
02:20:14,079 --> 02:20:15,840
But I mean, I bet if you're like exes were

3007
02:20:15,879 --> 02:20:18,319
running at you, that would freak the crap out of me,

3008
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:20,479
not just because of like why are you running at me,

3009
02:20:20,520 --> 02:20:23,000
but also like what are you doing here?

3010
02:20:24,239 --> 02:20:26,319
Speaker 3: I haven't seen you in ten years?

3011
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:28,319
Speaker 4: And I don't want to, Like I don't want my

3012
02:20:28,639 --> 02:20:30,959
exes running at me for any reason ever.

3013
02:20:31,879 --> 02:20:34,799
Speaker 5: I like just yesterday had a moment of I was

3014
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:37,760
just being very self conscious about like I walk every day,

3015
02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:40,639
like around the neighborhood and stuff, and at one point

3016
02:20:40,879 --> 02:20:43,840
yesterday I found myself like walking at about the same

3017
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:47,520
pace as this woman, but I was behind her, and

3018
02:20:47,639 --> 02:20:49,840
so I was like, probably, you know, fifty feet behind

3019
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:51,959
her or whatever, and I was like I just kind

3020
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:53,879
of feel awkward, like just kind of walking, Yeah, you

3021
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:55,840
got here at the same pace. So like I crossed

3022
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:58,399
to the other side of the street just to be like, hey,

3023
02:20:58,440 --> 02:20:59,799
just don't want to think I'm following you or whatever.

3024
02:21:00,159 --> 02:21:02,600
And then like she turned and it was where I

3025
02:21:02,719 --> 02:21:04,159
was going to and it's like, well, I'm trying to

3026
02:21:04,159 --> 02:21:05,840
get back to my house. I have to go that way,

3027
02:21:06,079 --> 02:21:07,920
and so like here I am again. I turned and

3028
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:11,280
there were like three different turns where it's like, God,

3029
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,280
damn it, this is where I'm going, you know, like,

3030
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:14,920
how do you make it? Like, I just want to

3031
02:21:14,920 --> 02:21:17,559
make it very clear, I'm not following you, Like this

3032
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:18,959
is that weirder to say that.

3033
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:23,479
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she's just walking in her neighborhood and this man.

3034
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:27,159
Speaker 3: But I was I wanting to show you that I

3035
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:29,280
don't have a gun, No big deal.

3036
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm not I don't have a weapon. Look at where

3037
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:34,799
It's like I was feeling weird about it, and I

3038
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:36,559
was sure. She was like is this guy following me?

3039
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:38,200
And I was like, I just how do I make it?

3040
02:21:38,559 --> 02:21:40,159
Do I go through the woods? Do I get off

3041
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:40,520
the path?

3042
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 1: You know? That is the most Tim Robbinson asked, ship

3043
02:21:43,479 --> 02:21:45,360
you go into the woods because you can't deal with

3044
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:50,360
the social cli complications of this encounter. There's probably some

3045
02:21:50,559 --> 02:21:52,799
celebrity that would scare me more if they were doing

3046
02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:53,840
this than anybody else.

3047
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:56,959
Speaker 4: There's a TikTok about what you're doing, Dan, which is

3048
02:21:57,040 --> 02:21:59,719
like you're passing a girl in the woods on a

3049
02:21:59,799 --> 02:22:03,200
high How do you do it so that it's not

3050
02:22:03,440 --> 02:22:06,040
scary because you're both alone in the woods and she's

3051
02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:06,559
a sure.

3052
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:10,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all pretty silly, but generally the joke is

3053
02:22:10,360 --> 02:22:12,680
that you like vogue or do something. Whether she's like

3054
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:16,479
oh good, you're an ally like, oh you're one of us,

3055
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:16,920
Yeah you.

3056
02:22:17,079 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 5: Like you is like that works if you were at

3057
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,920
a pace faster than the person. So I've got like

3058
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:25,639
my AirPods in and I'll just look straightforward and like

3059
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:27,559
as I'm doing the past, like once you're kind of

3060
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:29,639
like like right next to each other, I just kind

3061
02:22:29,639 --> 02:22:31,840
of like turn, just do a little like looky friendly

3062
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:33,479
like smile and wave, and then you just keep going

3063
02:22:33,479 --> 02:22:35,520
along on your way like oh, good evening or something

3064
02:22:35,559 --> 02:22:35,639
like that.

3065
02:22:36,479 --> 02:22:37,760
Speaker 2: That's that's probably a good way to do it.

3066
02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:39,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a nice thing to do. But I

3067
02:22:39,319 --> 02:22:41,440
think the the ultimate thing I just want to commend

3068
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:44,040
you for is I think the nicest thing is to

3069
02:22:44,159 --> 02:22:44,920
give them space.

3070
02:22:45,079 --> 02:22:47,520
Speaker 4: And so the fact that you cross the street without

3071
02:22:48,239 --> 02:22:52,639
like really even thinking it is a wonderful. That is

3072
02:22:52,719 --> 02:22:54,840
what I would recommend for most people, which is like,

3073
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:57,639
this isn't about you at all. Sometimes people are like,

3074
02:22:57,719 --> 02:23:00,440
but I didn't do anything and I would never hurt anyone.

3075
02:23:00,520 --> 02:23:01,639
It's like, that's actually not what it's about.

3076
02:23:01,799 --> 02:23:03,159
Speaker 2: They don't know that. They just know that there's some

3077
02:23:03,239 --> 02:23:03,799
guy they don't know.

3078
02:23:04,159 --> 02:23:07,239
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, women carry this burden. This has happened to me

3079
02:23:07,319 --> 02:23:08,920
so many times. We're like, it's like.

3080
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:12,079
Speaker 4: Late at night, I carry fucking keys in my hand

3081
02:23:12,319 --> 02:23:15,120
because there we have like a burden that we bear.

3082
02:23:15,479 --> 02:23:18,040
So it is it is not on who you are

3083
02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:19,799
at all as a person. The idea that you're just

3084
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:22,040
like I should just cross the street and give them

3085
02:23:22,120 --> 02:23:22,680
much more.

3086
02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:24,639
Speaker 3: Space is the best move.

3087
02:23:24,920 --> 02:23:26,799
Speaker 4: Just give them more space, because it kind of just

3088
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:30,280
freaks a girl out when there's men in close proximity

3089
02:23:30,319 --> 02:23:30,879
and they're alone.

3090
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:32,559
Speaker 3: That's just that's the reality.

3091
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the woods and stuff.

3092
02:23:34,719 --> 02:23:39,760
Speaker 3: That was the golden move, my dude, excellent. Yeah, or

3093
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:41,120
kill them, you know, because.

3094
02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Like you got old after a while.

3095
02:23:43,399 --> 02:23:45,680
Speaker 5: It's the same thing every time, you know, like yeh

3096
02:23:46,959 --> 02:23:49,680
from behind that, Yeah, it's just the same screams.

3097
02:23:49,719 --> 02:23:51,280
Speaker 2: It's the same every time.

3098
02:23:51,639 --> 02:23:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bored out of places.

3099
02:23:54,399 --> 02:23:55,200
Speaker 2: To bury the bodies.

3100
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:56,440
Speaker 3: Give me a challenge.

3101
02:23:56,840 --> 02:24:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, not good at still, what are you

3102
02:24:00,399 --> 02:24:00,799
afraid of?

3103
02:24:00,920 --> 02:24:07,399
Speaker 1: I think Cloris Leachman would be weird, like young Cloris Leachman. Now, like,

3104
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:08,479
is that Claris Leachman?

3105
02:24:08,639 --> 02:24:11,719
Speaker 5: But look, no, Clorence Leachman because of the Norm McDonald,

3106
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:12,639
Bob Saget.

3107
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:16,159
Speaker 1: Roach, No, I knew. I uh, that's a big part

3108
02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:16,760
of why I know her.

3109
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:18,239
Speaker 2: That's mainly why I know her.

3110
02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh yeah, there's like I guess.

3111
02:24:23,079 --> 02:24:25,520
Speaker 3: The tallest woman in the world that would freak me out.

3112
02:24:25,719 --> 02:24:27,680
Speaker 1: Albert Finney would be weird too.

3113
02:24:28,399 --> 02:24:30,360
Speaker 3: Are the tallest man? Tall people are scary?

3114
02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:33,360
Speaker 1: Tall people do creep me out? I told Will Carle Yeah,

3115
02:24:34,719 --> 02:24:38,959
Jason Alexander, Jason Alexander, Why am I blank?

3116
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:39,559
Speaker 2: Castanza?

3117
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:42,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ah weird?

3118
02:24:43,319 --> 02:24:46,520
Speaker 2: Is that George George Castanza and then he running at me?

3119
02:24:46,799 --> 02:24:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be someone you have to take a

3120
02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:54,079
second to recognize. Yeah, that's why I was thinking, like

3121
02:24:54,639 --> 02:25:03,680
Helen Mirrendeo Kojima. Yeah, although again it's probably has something.

3122
02:25:03,440 --> 02:25:05,920
Speaker 4: To do with his next game, Like Charlie from It's

3123
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,680
Always Sunny And at first you're like and then you're like,

3124
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:09,399
I'm gonna die.

3125
02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, no, my family would be weird. Thank

3126
02:25:14,719 --> 02:25:21,040
you Max from Markham, Ontario. Mary, do you want to

3127
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:23,399
read this one? From Christian.

3128
02:25:24,520 --> 02:25:27,799
Speaker 4: Echo the community when saying that very much appreciate it,

3129
02:25:28,239 --> 02:25:31,399
appreciate all three of you and that you share your

3130
02:25:31,479 --> 02:25:32,559
time and selves with us.

3131
02:25:32,639 --> 02:25:35,639
Speaker 3: You three are all wonderful, truly caring and a joy.

3132
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:36,639
Is this a plant?

3133
02:25:38,639 --> 02:25:39,200
Speaker 1: I just wrote?

3134
02:25:39,399 --> 02:25:44,719
Speaker 3: No, thank you, Christian, I don't believe it. That's awesome.

3135
02:25:44,760 --> 02:25:46,840
Thank you for saying that question.

3136
02:25:47,920 --> 02:25:51,479
Speaker 4: We are expecting our first child in January and have

3137
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:55,559
found deciding on baby names to be an experience. We

3138
02:25:55,680 --> 02:25:59,840
quickly discovered some lingering feelings with those who have passed

3139
02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:03,479
through our lives when you reject name after name as

3140
02:26:04,159 --> 02:26:07,840
can't name our child after that person or names that

3141
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:11,479
just give the I are there any names you can't

3142
02:26:11,639 --> 02:26:16,079
imagine ever naming your own theoretical child? Do you think

3143
02:26:16,239 --> 02:26:20,920
you'd find boy or girl names harder? Girl names are

3144
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:21,959
much easier for us?

3145
02:26:22,639 --> 02:26:26,639
Speaker 3: And the second question, yeah, then do you want to

3146
02:26:26,639 --> 02:26:28,040
start with one and then we'll go to the second one?

3147
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:30,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, very I'll go back to it.

3148
02:26:30,479 --> 02:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Let's not a little knock one out. Thank you, Christian.

3149
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:33,319
I'll come back.

3150
02:26:35,319 --> 02:26:37,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we don't have kids, but we

3151
02:26:38,159 --> 02:26:40,000
have pets, and so that's.

3152
02:26:40,799 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 3: We're so easy.

3153
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:45,760
Speaker 2: Dogs and cats you can just name them weird things.

3154
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:47,559
And like with people, it's got to be like.

3155
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:50,319
Speaker 1: How easy it is to.

3156
02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:53,719
Speaker 3: Name fucking dog corn dog and like call it a life.

3157
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:57,079
You can't child that you can't name a child Brisket.

3158
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:01,319
Speaker 1: Amanda and I we don't don't plan on having kids,

3159
02:27:01,399 --> 02:27:03,280
but we have talked about like it. I don't know,

3160
02:27:03,319 --> 02:27:04,959
it just comes up as like a fun convo it

3161
02:27:05,079 --> 02:27:08,079
sometimes over drinks or whatever. If we were going to

3162
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:09,799
have a boy, what we name if we're gonna have

3163
02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:11,920
a girl, what we name them. But it does come

3164
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:13,639
up every once in a while, like early on I

3165
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:16,239
would recommend a name and she'd be like, nope, one

3166
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:18,559
of my worst ex's, for instance, or something like that,

3167
02:27:19,040 --> 02:27:21,280
like a cruciation stick.

3168
02:27:23,079 --> 02:27:26,360
Speaker 5: I feel like, I I've never thought about this before,

3169
02:27:26,479 --> 02:27:29,399
but I do kind of hate just like modern trendy

3170
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:32,159
names where it's like it's like Brayden and.

3171
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:36,200
Speaker 1: Like soap like that's like millennial kid naming from soap operas.

3172
02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:38,399
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, or something like Whennef Pultrow would like name

3173
02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:40,000
her kids or something where it's like so I feel

3174
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:41,280
like I would want to go the other direction and

3175
02:27:41,399 --> 02:27:44,399
just be like, here's my kid Carl, you know, like

3176
02:27:44,719 --> 02:27:46,719
just the most like a name that could have been

3177
02:27:46,760 --> 02:27:47,600
from nineteen forty.

3178
02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:51,680
Speaker 2: You know, here's Steve, Here's Carl, Here's Jilly Brick.

3179
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:56,159
Speaker 1: Oh, listen, Brick, that'd be a sick kid named Rick Reker.

3180
02:27:56,399 --> 02:27:58,079
I know Rick Rick is the.

3181
02:27:58,159 --> 02:28:02,879
Speaker 3: Name you think it is. Brick gives media, Yeah, is

3182
02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:04,360
this my son, Brick?

3183
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I kind of like that.

3184
02:28:07,159 --> 02:28:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm just setting up for a life on that pole.

3185
02:28:12,040 --> 02:28:13,719
Speaker 2: Good for him, he comes, Brick.

3186
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter Crystal Chandelier just ruined both of them

3187
02:28:22,079 --> 02:28:22,639
for life.

3188
02:28:22,879 --> 02:28:26,000
Speaker 1: Brick and his sister Botox doing a co op dance

3189
02:28:26,159 --> 02:28:31,719
for all you Bucky bums out there. Creighton, Yeah, oh yeah,

3190
02:28:31,760 --> 02:28:35,600
you started to Braiden. That'd be annoying. It just sounds

3191
02:28:35,719 --> 02:28:41,920
like something that would be like Hunter, Bryce, Crench, those

3192
02:28:41,959 --> 02:28:42,440
are all.

3193
02:28:45,559 --> 02:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Probably Crench would be a good name for a woman.

3194
02:28:48,559 --> 02:28:49,399
I've never thought of.

3195
02:28:53,639 --> 02:28:54,799
Speaker 1: Kreskowski Maharty.

3196
02:28:55,479 --> 02:28:56,319
Speaker 3: He's a French.

3197
02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:59,079
Speaker 1: She literally can only be a brain surgeon or else

3198
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:00,000
he will amount to nothing.

3199
02:29:00,639 --> 02:29:03,479
Speaker 3: No, he's a murderer before he comes out of the womb.

3200
02:29:04,879 --> 02:29:06,360
Speaker 1: It's not a matter of whether he's a murder. It's

3201
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:08,200
a matter of how he's going to kill his victims

3202
02:29:08,239 --> 02:29:12,559
and how long he's gonna shakes. Hopefully he u's a scalpel.

3203
02:29:13,159 --> 02:29:15,000
Speaker 3: I will say. There's a good subreddit for this.

3204
02:29:15,639 --> 02:29:20,799
Speaker 4: It's called traged day and it's spelled really weird intentionally

3205
02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:22,920
because a modern thing that a lot of people do

3206
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:29,559
is they have a kid, you know, named Chantrell, but

3207
02:29:29,639 --> 02:29:32,239
it has like eight eyes in it and six e's

3208
02:29:32,399 --> 02:29:36,479
and I'm party always comes to mind. So it's like

3209
02:29:37,239 --> 02:29:44,520
just terribly pronounced, difficult to understand, too many lettered names.

3210
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:47,760
And the subreddit's pretty funny because it is actual people

3211
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:51,200
who are like my sister wants to name her son,

3212
02:29:53,159 --> 02:29:55,319
you know, this awful, awful, awful name that has too

3213
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:57,920
many vowels in it, and how they try and fight

3214
02:29:58,319 --> 02:30:00,879
the tragedy of the name. So I think that's a

3215
02:30:00,959 --> 02:30:03,799
cool place to find terrible names that you never want.

3216
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:08,239
Speaker 2: There's so many steaks with naming a human, you.

3217
02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:10,520
Speaker 4: Know, no, you don't want it to rhyme with anything bad,

3218
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:14,559
Like you can't name them jars. Yeah, totally, we read

3219
02:30:14,600 --> 02:30:18,399
the same mind, Yeah, but with the like pets.

3220
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:19,920
Speaker 5: And stuff too, like you know, the breed and stuff

3221
02:30:19,959 --> 02:30:22,280
like that. So like, you know, we knew, like Gizmo,

3222
02:30:22,399 --> 02:30:24,280
he was going to be a cavalier, and he was

3223
02:30:24,319 --> 02:30:26,559
a cavalier, and it's like we look at him like

3224
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:27,559
to this day, I'll look at.

3225
02:30:27,559 --> 02:30:29,760
Speaker 2: Him like, yeah, nailed it with Gizmo. That is a

3226
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:31,520
gizmo right there, Gizmo.

3227
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:33,559
Speaker 5: But like with a person, you don't know if they're

3228
02:30:33,559 --> 02:30:35,479
going to be like a Navy seal or like a

3229
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:37,840
Dungeons and Dragons guy, you know, so it's like you

3230
02:30:37,959 --> 02:30:39,399
gotta you can't really predict it.

3231
02:30:40,399 --> 02:30:42,399
Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to have a malleable name

3232
02:30:42,479 --> 02:30:44,399
that allows them to decide what they are. And I

3233
02:30:44,479 --> 02:30:46,760
think like one of the as a non parents, so

3234
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:49,479
I will preface with that one of the toughest lessons

3235
02:30:49,799 --> 02:30:51,520
most parents have to learn is that you do not

3236
02:30:51,639 --> 02:30:53,799
get to decide the fate of your kid. Like they

3237
02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:56,479
are going to be things that maybe you didn't want

3238
02:30:56,520 --> 02:30:58,200
them to be. Maybe you really want them.

3239
02:30:58,040 --> 02:31:00,879
Speaker 2: To be a football star, and that's what my mom wanted.

3240
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:06,479
Speaker 4: They're a big stinky nerd that can't public speak to

3241
02:31:06,559 --> 02:31:09,559
save their life. And Dan is like a name that

3242
02:31:09,639 --> 02:31:12,040
could be a track star, but it could also be

3243
02:31:12,520 --> 02:31:13,159
a bookworm.

3244
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:13,920
Speaker 3: It could be both.

3245
02:31:14,079 --> 02:31:16,079
Speaker 4: And so I like to think of names as like

3246
02:31:17,239 --> 02:31:20,399
malleable casings for whatever your child ends up being, because

3247
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:23,360
the truth is is that, like a good parent doesn't

3248
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:26,000
really have to do anything but love their child. So

3249
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:29,600
like it's just should be like something that stretches and

3250
02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:32,200
bends to like whatever that kid ends up being.

3251
02:31:32,799 --> 02:31:35,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, let the personality and the person be the thing

3252
02:31:35,559 --> 02:31:37,399
that stands out, and like let the name just be

3253
02:31:37,799 --> 02:31:39,760
you know, just standard name, you know.

3254
02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't name them Alfred. They've got one job

3255
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:46,360
for the rest of their life, oh Butler? Yeah? Or

3256
02:31:46,559 --> 02:31:50,840
like what's another one, Jeeves or Jeeves, Jeeves a better one? Yeah,

3257
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:54,120
what's Cinderella.

3258
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a real tough life. She's really stuck.

3259
02:32:00,799 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Zenya. If you do have a kid named Zenya, send them.

3260
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:17,040
Speaker 3: The countdown.

3261
02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:24,920
Speaker 1: This is Brick, that's Crunch, this is Velveta, Trough and Trough.

3262
02:32:25,559 --> 02:32:27,479
Speaker 2: I think, Mike, you should have kids just so you

3263
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:28,799
can work out these names.

3264
02:32:28,879 --> 02:32:31,479
Speaker 1: What the fuck is Brick's gonna be a He's gonna

3265
02:32:31,479 --> 02:32:33,760
be a sex worker and you know, more power to him.

3266
02:32:33,799 --> 02:32:35,760
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be a Borderlands character?

3267
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was? Yeah, Velveta is gonna be like

3268
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:50,520
the the press secretary for a weird president in the future. Blizz, Yeah, Blizz,

3269
02:32:50,719 --> 02:32:52,559
Blizz is going to be on He's going to try

3270
02:32:52,639 --> 02:32:54,879
to reincarnate American Gladiator.

3271
02:32:56,319 --> 02:32:59,559
Speaker 5: Is there a name that, if you hear you instantly

3272
02:32:59,639 --> 02:33:02,159
have a like, oh, they must suck the connotation with it.

3273
02:33:02,239 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the quest. Oh, like what

3274
02:33:04,239 --> 02:33:04,559
is mine?

3275
02:33:05,440 --> 02:33:06,879
Speaker 2: The one that comes to my mind is Todd.

3276
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Todd. Todd's Todd's big.

3277
02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:14,079
Speaker 2: You hear it Todd? And I don't really know Todd.

3278
02:33:15,399 --> 02:33:19,120
Speaker 1: Guy, but like I still associate the name with with that, Yeah,

3279
02:33:19,879 --> 02:33:22,920
we with who? I still associate the name with douchebags?

3280
02:33:23,399 --> 02:33:25,319
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I just don't really know any like

3281
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:26,600
Todd Howard.

3282
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:29,040
Speaker 5: A couple of times he seems fine, I guess, but

3283
02:33:29,159 --> 02:33:31,120
that's the only like Todd I actually know xactly.

3284
02:33:31,239 --> 02:33:34,319
Speaker 3: But Andrew Brittany.

3285
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:37,399
Speaker 4: Sorry for all the Brittany's out there, But like I've

3286
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:40,479
met a lot of Britney's and Ashley's, and so I think,

3287
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:42,799
like when I meet another Britney or Ashley, I'm like,

3288
02:33:42,799 --> 02:33:45,399
oh my gosh, it's like one more like I don't

3289
02:33:45,440 --> 02:33:46,920
need any more Britney's or Ashley's.

3290
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:49,479
Speaker 3: I got too many. I got too many of those

3291
02:33:49,559 --> 02:33:54,239
in my life. I like the name Sarah. I don't

3292
02:33:54,280 --> 02:33:54,520
know why.

3293
02:33:54,639 --> 02:33:55,639
Speaker 2: I just I think that's.

3294
02:33:58,520 --> 02:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Niece calm name. I have so many Megans in my family.

3295
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, means a lot of mics.

3296
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:08,239
Speaker 3: It's overused. Mic is overused.

3297
02:34:09,239 --> 02:34:11,120
Speaker 4: It's not bad, it's just I wouldn't name a kid

3298
02:34:11,239 --> 02:34:14,799
something that, like, I feel like, is so common. Another

3299
02:34:15,399 --> 02:34:18,639
reference is there's ones where you can look up the

3300
02:34:18,719 --> 02:34:21,520
most popular baby names from like the last years, and

3301
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:24,319
they're very consistent. Let me see what the most popular

3302
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:28,159
baby names are. The most popular baby names Twine Hunter.

3303
02:34:29,319 --> 02:34:31,040
Speaker 1: There, I've met a lot of young Hunters.

3304
02:34:30,840 --> 02:34:40,319
Speaker 3: So fucking popular. Okay, baby girls, excuse me, Olivia, am

3305
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:45,479
I like those? Amelia Charlotte, You're gonna get lost in

3306
02:34:45,479 --> 02:34:54,360
the ocean, Mia, Sophia, Isabella. Yeah, Eva, Sophia very calm,

3307
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:56,639
like a feather fell, you know.

3308
02:34:56,799 --> 02:35:02,639
Speaker 4: And here's the men's Liam Noah all like Liam Theodore.

3309
02:35:02,879 --> 02:35:09,239
Speaker 3: That one's adorable. James, Henry Matteo Potos real good.

3310
02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I would name him Matteo. I like.

3311
02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:14,760
Speaker 3: Like Henry.

3312
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:17,159
Speaker 2: You can do both, yeah, Hank or Henry is great.

3313
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Hank I like, I like.

3314
02:35:21,520 --> 02:35:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't like Liam.

3315
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:25,319
Speaker 1: I likely I grew up. You know what. You know

3316
02:35:25,360 --> 02:35:26,920
what name I like is Dylan.

3317
02:35:28,159 --> 02:35:28,879
Speaker 2: Is a nice name.

3318
02:35:29,559 --> 02:35:32,639
Speaker 5: I don't like one Dylan and he just sucks this

3319
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:37,239
hockey player idiot. Yeah, Wayne, it's Backlar's kid, I mean.

3320
02:35:37,319 --> 02:35:38,000
But yeah, you know.

3321
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:41,239
Speaker 1: What about Wayne?

3322
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:47,040
Speaker 2: I like Wayne. I have positive connotations with Wayne, Wayne Knight,

3323
02:35:47,360 --> 02:35:48,280
Wayne's world.

3324
02:35:48,360 --> 02:35:49,479
Speaker 1: Wayne Newton Gratzky.

3325
02:35:51,319 --> 02:35:55,319
Speaker 3: What about Dibbs? Like I got Dibbs, but is.

3326
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:59,399
Speaker 5: Also Backlar's kid. It's his acronym name initials is what

3327
02:35:59,440 --> 02:35:59,719
you say.

3328
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:02,239
Speaker 1: While we're on the topic, let's talk about the fucking

3329
02:36:02,360 --> 02:36:04,319
name Bakolar. What the fuck were they thinking?

3330
02:36:04,399 --> 02:36:04,920
Speaker 2: It fucked up?

3331
02:36:05,200 --> 02:36:08,639
Speaker 3: Its fucking Jeff a true tragedyy.

3332
02:36:09,159 --> 02:36:11,559
Speaker 1: And also, what's with a fucking number of Jeffs.

3333
02:36:12,920 --> 02:36:16,319
Speaker 5: There's a lot of Jeffs in the occasional goff. Yeah,

3334
02:36:16,319 --> 02:36:18,879
there's so many Jeffs. My my, my main childhood bully

3335
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:19,479
was the Jeff.

3336
02:36:19,639 --> 02:36:21,239
Speaker 1: So I do have it there to a game form,

3337
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:26,200
there's there there were two porking Mark.

3338
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:30,879
Speaker 2: And Acervic three well Markiva was Jeff them Yeah.

3339
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:32,840
Speaker 1: Right to differentiate them because there were three.

3340
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:35,040
Speaker 5: We had a lot of andies. We had a lot

3341
02:36:35,079 --> 02:36:38,959
of Matts with birds. We had Cado with Miller. Yeah, yeah, Matt.

3342
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:40,479
Matt was a popular one for sure.

3343
02:36:41,079 --> 02:36:43,399
Speaker 3: Matt is a nice, sturdy name.

3344
02:36:43,719 --> 02:36:44,600
Speaker 2: Matt, Matt.

3345
02:36:44,680 --> 02:36:46,799
Speaker 3: Matt could be anything. That's one of time when I

3346
02:36:46,840 --> 02:36:49,040
was talking about like a malleable name and Matt could

3347
02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:53,079
be anything. They could be a scientist, they could be uh,

3348
02:36:53,760 --> 02:36:57,360
a private dancer, they could be whoever they want. Yeah,

3349
02:36:58,000 --> 02:36:59,600
welcome to the stage. Matt.

3350
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:04,360
Speaker 2: Matt not a stage name.

3351
02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't know.

3352
02:37:06,479 --> 02:37:08,399
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what guys stripper names.

3353
02:37:08,200 --> 02:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Are are the Matt you know, there is you just

3354
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:16,440
the end of it. It's like like the thing is

3355
02:37:16,559 --> 02:37:20,399
at dude stripper at you know, with lady stripper. It's

3356
02:37:20,399 --> 02:37:23,639
always like ambrosia or cinnamon or something. Matt.

3357
02:37:24,040 --> 02:37:26,399
Speaker 3: You juice up the last name. It's like Matt fatty

3358
02:37:26,479 --> 02:37:27,360
dong dong, you know.

3359
02:37:27,600 --> 02:37:30,840
Speaker 6: Like you just you just like tack it all got

3360
02:37:30,840 --> 02:37:34,239
a new gamer dig Yeah, yeah, this is bricks fat

3361
02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:35,479
fat ding dong.

3362
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:42,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the KD race on on brick chomp dick.

3363
02:37:43,200 --> 02:37:51,479
Oh my god, what a KD. He's so good. Well, yeah,

3364
02:37:51,559 --> 02:37:53,920
hopefully we helped clear some stuff up for January. So

3365
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:59,000
you know, what's the name of your kidd Brick? So

3366
02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:06,559
thank you, Christian Crunch. What was the other one, Crench Christian? Okay, well,

3367
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:10,799
if you want to keep the father's name, Crench Christianaw,

3368
02:38:13,719 --> 02:38:23,760
it's okay. No initials, Yeah, that would be bad.

3369
02:38:26,200 --> 02:38:39,959
Speaker 3: Rusty clown classic. Oh God, set them up for a

3370
02:38:40,120 --> 02:38:43,399
miserable life the last last.

3371
02:38:44,440 --> 02:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes yes yes, yes,

3372
02:38:46,319 --> 02:38:46,879
yes yes yes.

3373
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:50,000
Speaker 4: I think Dan is currently leading the group, with injuries

3374
02:38:50,159 --> 02:38:53,799
having occurred during the podcast and sometimes because of the podcast.

3375
02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:56,120
Betting odds, whom of the three of you is the

3376
02:38:56,239 --> 02:38:57,600
most likely to be injured next?

3377
02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:59,159
Speaker 3: Dan, What the fun is up with your fingers?

3378
02:38:59,680 --> 02:39:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? What ship?

3379
02:39:00,799 --> 02:39:02,120
Speaker 2: It's been for a year and a half?

3380
02:39:02,239 --> 02:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Wait, cut them? No you.

3381
02:39:11,559 --> 02:39:13,440
Speaker 2: This is slicing with a veggie slicer.

3382
02:39:13,920 --> 02:39:14,559
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

3383
02:39:15,760 --> 02:39:18,760
Speaker 1: It's still fucked up. I think Dan betting odds probably

3384
02:39:18,879 --> 02:39:21,479
he's definitely. You're also cooking a lot more so, like

3385
02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:22,000
you're no.

3386
02:39:22,239 --> 02:39:24,319
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm off that now, why are.

3387
02:39:24,280 --> 02:39:27,239
Speaker 1: You off cooking? I was very proud of that momentum.

3388
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:27,879
Speaker 2: Because it was good.

3389
02:39:29,559 --> 02:39:32,200
Speaker 5: No, it was nice, but it's like it was a

3390
02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:33,280
thing where it's like I was trying to do it

3391
02:39:33,319 --> 02:39:35,799
for health purposes and stuff, but it's like even chicken

3392
02:39:35,879 --> 02:39:38,120
breast and veggies and stuff you used on oils, using

3393
02:39:38,120 --> 02:39:40,000
all this stuff, so like it takes a ten more time,

3394
02:39:40,079 --> 02:39:42,760
and then the calories do super duper add up, so

3395
02:39:42,920 --> 02:39:48,600
it's like, even I'm eating healthier stuff, it's still like Okay, yeah, oh,

3396
02:39:48,639 --> 02:39:50,280
I've gained a ton of weight in the last time.

3397
02:39:52,079 --> 02:39:53,000
Speaker 2: Injury and not running.

3398
02:39:53,319 --> 02:39:54,200
Speaker 3: What are you back on.

3399
02:39:56,239 --> 02:39:56,840
Speaker 2: Eating wise?

3400
02:39:57,120 --> 02:39:59,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're not cooking, how are you surviving breakfast?

3401
02:40:00,079 --> 02:40:03,879
Speaker 2: I'm back on oats. I'm doing like a delivery overnight.

3402
02:40:04,120 --> 02:40:06,479
Speaker 3: I can't get cut on those. Oh okay, so you're

3403
02:40:06,520 --> 02:40:08,399
not making them, They're being delivered to your door.

3404
02:40:08,559 --> 02:40:10,079
Speaker 2: It's super uggin easy. It's great.

3405
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:13,319
Speaker 5: And then for lunch, I do peanut butter sandwich, no

3406
02:40:13,479 --> 02:40:15,719
sides or anything. Sometimes a turkey sandwich or cheese.

3407
02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't cut can't cut yourself on peanut.

3408
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:19,440
Speaker 2: Butter and jelly, Nope, Nope.

3409
02:40:19,520 --> 02:40:21,200
Speaker 5: And then I'll usually for like a snag or something

3410
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:24,479
before dinner, I'll do like a string cheese or something

3411
02:40:24,520 --> 02:40:27,559
like that. And then dinner, I've got another like meal

3412
02:40:27,719 --> 02:40:30,520
service thing that like most of their things are like

3413
02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:34,120
under five hundred calories. And it's like here's a chicken,

3414
02:40:34,399 --> 02:40:37,200
here's a veggie, here's you know, it's just very just

3415
02:40:37,479 --> 02:40:40,639
basic protein, fiber veggie.

3416
02:40:40,840 --> 02:40:41,000
Speaker 1: You know.

3417
02:40:41,239 --> 02:40:43,760
Speaker 2: So it's microwave stuff. So it's not like fancy or anything.

3418
02:40:43,799 --> 02:40:46,000
But it's like, you know, yeah, I.

3419
02:40:46,079 --> 02:40:47,239
Speaker 3: Have to admit something to you.

3420
02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:51,280
Speaker 4: I for the last well, I'm not gonna admit, I'm

3421
02:40:51,280 --> 02:40:55,920
gonna brag for the last six weeks, I have chosen

3422
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:59,079
to do nothing but meal plans. I still go out

3423
02:40:59,079 --> 02:41:00,920
to eat, like we'll want it's a week for a

3424
02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:05,319
little treat. But my lunches are a smoothie service that

3425
02:41:05,440 --> 02:41:07,600
are sent to my door and they're frozen. And my

3426
02:41:07,760 --> 02:41:11,479
dinners are a dinner service that are pre portioned. That

3427
02:41:11,719 --> 02:41:15,799
is my my fallout is portioning because I if I cook,

3428
02:41:16,479 --> 02:41:19,719
I end up eating two to three portions right, yes,

3429
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:24,600
with these and they are pre cooked, but I heat

3430
02:41:24,639 --> 02:41:26,239
them up in a skillet or whatever.

3431
02:41:26,799 --> 02:41:28,280
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you can make you do oven, you can

3432
02:41:28,319 --> 02:41:28,760
do skial with that.

3433
02:41:29,000 --> 02:41:33,000
Speaker 3: I don't overeat and I've I've lost six pounds.

3434
02:41:33,639 --> 02:41:36,879
Speaker 5: Congress and all pound six weeks. And also it's just

3435
02:41:36,959 --> 02:41:39,079
such an easier like you know, we're busy people, and

3436
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:40,280
it's just so easy.

3437
02:41:40,120 --> 02:41:41,639
Speaker 3: To be all hollow night hours.

3438
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not an ad or anything, but I

3439
02:41:44,440 --> 02:41:46,680
am curious. You should discord me or tell me, you.

3440
02:41:46,719 --> 02:41:49,159
Speaker 3: Know, I'm not ashamed of it. Yeah, I've been doing

3441
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,120
a factor. I've been doing Factor.

3442
02:41:51,200 --> 02:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Factor is good. I've done a lot of because it

3443
02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:54,680
because it's.

3444
02:41:54,799 --> 02:41:58,520
Speaker 4: It's uh, it has the calorie conscious ones, and so

3445
02:41:58,719 --> 02:42:01,520
I just keep everything around five hundred ish or less

3446
02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:05,120
if I do that. Plus, the smoothies are daily harvest,

3447
02:42:05,879 --> 02:42:10,639
which are like two hundred to three hundred calories. I mean,

3448
02:42:10,719 --> 02:42:12,799
like my basically my meals are less than a thousand,

3449
02:42:12,840 --> 02:42:14,959
which gives me lots of room for snacks and drinking,

3450
02:42:15,040 --> 02:42:15,959
which is important to me.

3451
02:42:17,079 --> 02:42:19,440
Speaker 3: So I found a way. I found a way to

3452
02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:21,719
figure it out. Or like if I eat these meals

3453
02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:24,959
under like these calories, then I can have three drinks

3454
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:26,040
and a snack.

3455
02:42:26,840 --> 02:42:28,959
Speaker 5: I think we have the exact same things we're looking

3456
02:42:29,040 --> 02:42:31,159
for with this stuff, and like yeahy and stuff like that.

3457
02:42:31,319 --> 02:42:33,799
There are numerous different ones, and you know, like factor

3458
02:42:33,959 --> 02:42:36,479
coc unity of like both those a lot. I'm doing

3459
02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:38,639
a new one now called clean Eats that's really good.

3460
02:42:38,879 --> 02:42:42,000
And yeah, so it's like I've looked into daily harvest,

3461
02:42:42,079 --> 02:42:44,559
Like I'm just very into that hole. Just like make

3462
02:42:44,639 --> 02:42:47,360
this easy for me, but also make it not terrible

3463
02:42:47,399 --> 02:42:48,200
for me health wise.

3464
02:42:48,319 --> 02:42:50,920
Speaker 4: So sometimes it's sad, but most of the time, I'm like,

3465
02:42:51,040 --> 02:42:53,680
this is convenient. I can game, I heat up my food,

3466
02:42:53,719 --> 02:42:55,559
and I eat it and it becomes more like fuel.

3467
02:42:55,840 --> 02:42:56,520
Speaker 3: It's not something I.

3468
02:42:56,520 --> 02:42:58,319
Speaker 2: Realized on to see it. It's sad.

3469
02:42:58,399 --> 02:43:00,479
Speaker 5: Really, it's just like, you know, if this leads to

3470
02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:03,200
better quality life and better health stuff and everything like.

3471
02:43:03,239 --> 02:43:04,479
Speaker 3: That, that's been my experience.

3472
02:43:04,959 --> 02:43:07,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a physical like last week and like shocking,

3473
02:43:07,559 --> 02:43:11,280
my fucking cholesterol is super high. So it's like you

3474
02:43:11,319 --> 02:43:13,000
need to really, you know, get that stuff in.

3475
02:43:13,159 --> 02:43:14,399
Speaker 4: Well, what do you have to cut out? If you're

3476
02:43:14,399 --> 02:43:16,600
already doing all this stuff, what else do you cut now?

3477
02:43:17,559 --> 02:43:21,120
I mean, I do just candy give your cholesterol.

3478
02:43:21,559 --> 02:43:23,399
Speaker 5: I don't need a lot of candy right now unless

3479
02:43:23,399 --> 02:43:24,920
something like around it. I just don't have candy in

3480
02:43:24,959 --> 02:43:27,840
the house. But like I have fast food and plenty,

3481
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:29,440
you know, at least once a week. I would say,

3482
02:43:29,719 --> 02:43:32,879
you know, I'm I socialize a lot too, so it's like, okay,

3483
02:43:32,920 --> 02:43:34,799
I'm out at this thing. And we're going to go

3484
02:43:34,840 --> 02:43:37,959
to this bar pub place before the wrestling show, and

3485
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:39,360
I'm going to get We're gonna get a bunch of

3486
02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:41,879
appetizers and s like that type of stuff. And I drink,

3487
02:43:42,040 --> 02:43:44,079
you know, maybe three nights a week or so. So

3488
02:43:44,239 --> 02:43:46,520
it's like that all adds up quite a bit. So

3489
02:43:47,440 --> 02:43:50,879
having the food thing be like a constant and I

3490
02:43:51,040 --> 02:43:51,520
respect it.

3491
02:43:52,040 --> 02:43:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want I don't want to just throw

3492
02:43:54,440 --> 02:43:56,799
a little meal to heat.

3493
02:43:57,000 --> 02:43:59,200
Speaker 4: And then my rule, I don't know if you follow this,

3494
02:43:59,319 --> 02:44:00,799
Like my rule is, I don't eat it out of

3495
02:44:00,879 --> 02:44:02,760
like the plastic bin they send it in, because I'm like,

3496
02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:05,000
that's a TV dinner. I put it on a I

3497
02:44:05,120 --> 02:44:06,959
put it on a plate, and I eat it at

3498
02:44:07,000 --> 02:44:08,440
a table like a person.

3499
02:44:09,280 --> 02:44:12,600
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, put in a dishwasher. It's a hole

3500
02:44:12,680 --> 02:44:15,760
to do, you gotta, sir. I just folded together like

3501
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:17,639
a paper plate and just pour it into my gullet

3502
02:44:17,719 --> 02:44:21,200
and swallow it like a duck. Yeah yeah, yeah, the

3503
02:44:21,239 --> 02:44:22,040
doughnuts and hell.

3504
02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah great.

3505
02:44:23,399 --> 02:44:27,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's so convenient. Now I can go back to gaming,

3506
02:44:27,200 --> 02:44:27,719
he says.

3507
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 5: Honestly, like food, sometimes it's just like this is taking

3508
02:44:31,799 --> 02:44:33,639
too long. I just need to, like get through this

3509
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:38,799
rotary beats the last couple of weeks.

3510
02:44:38,920 --> 02:44:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like like five hundred thous.

3511
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:51,399
Speaker 1: Collect literally, Like.

3512
02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:55,159
Speaker 5: I will frequently have like fifteen minutes between a show

3513
02:44:55,280 --> 02:44:58,120
going off the air and uh like having to go

3514
02:44:58,200 --> 02:44:59,920
into a meeting, and so I have these like little

3515
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,479
peanut butter packets and awesome, I'm just like scarfing down

3516
02:45:03,520 --> 02:45:04,319
peanut butter packets.

3517
02:45:04,360 --> 02:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't even do that, but Justin's are delicious. The dark.

3518
02:45:07,120 --> 02:45:09,360
Have you had the peanut butter cups? Yeah? Yeah, those

3519
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:11,639
are the dark chop. Awesome.

3520
02:45:11,639 --> 02:45:13,239
Speaker 5: It's like two hundred calories. It gives you enough to

3521
02:45:13,319 --> 02:45:14,959
just gonna keep you awake for the next thing.

3522
02:45:15,040 --> 02:45:15,200
Speaker 1: You know.

3523
02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:18,719
Speaker 3: I agree. I am the same, especially on like live

3524
02:45:18,799 --> 02:45:21,079
streaming days, where like I have to live stream as

3525
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:21,959
a part of my job.

3526
02:45:22,040 --> 02:45:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, when am I supposed to eat? We usually

3527
02:45:24,159 --> 02:45:27,559
stream at noon, I am. I will go downstairs and

3528
02:45:27,799 --> 02:45:31,399
make a bowl of cereal and I will eat cereals

3529
02:45:31,440 --> 02:45:34,559
like whatever I can fucking scrounge up. It's usually sad,

3530
02:45:34,680 --> 02:45:36,360
but it's like I have to eat something or my

3531
02:45:36,440 --> 02:45:37,760
blood sugar will be too low.

3532
02:45:38,360 --> 02:45:39,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, these are like I'm sure these don't sound like

3533
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,000
major like complaints or anything. And I understand that, but

3534
02:45:42,079 --> 02:45:43,719
it's like you do have to think about it where

3535
02:45:43,719 --> 02:45:46,719
it's like on a BombCast day my time, we will

3536
02:45:46,719 --> 02:45:49,159
get into a call at like ten forty five am,

3537
02:45:50,200 --> 02:45:51,879
so you know, I'll wake up at like seven, have

3538
02:45:51,920 --> 02:45:54,719
a little breakfast. Okay, but Dow podcasts, so we got to,

3539
02:45:54,799 --> 02:45:56,680
you know, have like a little something that like you know,

3540
02:45:56,799 --> 02:45:59,840
ten ten thirty totally can we do a three hour podcast?

3541
02:46:00,280 --> 02:46:02,440
And then it'll be like two o'clock and there's like

3542
02:46:02,479 --> 02:46:05,399
a meeting that starts at like thirty or something, not

3543
02:46:05,559 --> 02:46:09,159
really enough time to like have an actual meal. So lunch, yeah, yeah,

3544
02:46:09,280 --> 02:46:11,600
like it goes straight through lunch and like several hours

3545
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:13,200
on both ends, and it's like when the fuck am

3546
02:46:13,239 --> 02:46:13,719
I gonna eat?

3547
02:46:13,840 --> 02:46:15,360
Speaker 3: Like I usually work through lunch.

3548
02:46:15,559 --> 02:46:18,200
Speaker 4: I agree, That's why I actually like the smoothies. So again,

3549
02:46:19,040 --> 02:46:21,559
no promo, just like saying like the smoothies are a

3550
02:46:21,639 --> 02:46:24,399
convenient way because I can eat them while I type,

3551
02:46:24,799 --> 02:46:27,200
and I can also eat them while I walk my dog.

3552
02:46:27,399 --> 02:46:29,680
And I love that shit because I walk every day too,

3553
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:32,040
but I walk with my dog at noon when you know,

3554
02:46:32,159 --> 02:46:34,159
as as long as I'm not live streaming and So

3555
02:46:34,280 --> 02:46:35,639
what I do is I make a smoothie and then

3556
02:46:35,680 --> 02:46:37,680
I walk my dog with my smoothie. And that's a

3557
02:46:37,760 --> 02:46:41,000
really nice system for me. It's really it works really well,

3558
02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:43,000
and I'm really happy with with that. I used to

3559
02:46:43,079 --> 02:46:45,920
make salads and I was like rushing my dog, like,

3560
02:46:46,159 --> 02:46:47,799
you know, around one block because I was like, I

3561
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:49,760
gotta cut all these fucking tomatoes.

3562
02:46:50,840 --> 02:46:53,719
Speaker 3: I don't live like that anymore. I'm happier with my

3563
02:46:53,799 --> 02:46:54,479
smoothie sys.

3564
02:46:54,559 --> 02:46:57,239
Speaker 5: So I also don't ever want to eat on camera.

3565
02:46:57,399 --> 02:46:58,760
Really well, I guess I do it when I'm doing

3566
02:46:58,760 --> 02:47:00,280
like personal streams like Giant Bomb.

3567
02:47:00,399 --> 02:47:01,879
Speaker 2: I love when people lunch.

3568
02:47:03,159 --> 02:47:05,440
Speaker 3: When I we would play Resident Evil and I would

3569
02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:08,319
come come in with hummus and carrots.

3570
02:47:09,159 --> 02:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I love when that dude chased me with a chainsaw.

3571
02:47:11,120 --> 02:47:13,959
And I also hear Mary's mouth noises. It's the best.

3572
02:47:14,600 --> 02:47:18,719
Speaker 3: Maybe your running person is me eating food running at you.

3573
02:47:19,200 --> 02:47:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Maybe you're right, Mike, it's time to

3574
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:29,600
record fucking call me brick and kill me right now.

3575
02:47:30,280 --> 02:47:35,000
It would be the worst thing. Ever, how do we

3576
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:40,559
get on prepared food? I lost and Dan's definitely the

3577
02:47:40,719 --> 02:47:41,920
Dan is definitely the next person.

3578
02:47:41,760 --> 02:47:43,239
Speaker 4: Get Dan's going to be the next person to be

3579
02:47:43,280 --> 02:47:45,719
injured because you're already injured. I actually don't get injured

3580
02:47:46,200 --> 02:47:49,600
very often. I just don't do dangerous sh it anymore.

3581
02:47:50,120 --> 02:47:51,479
Speaker 2: I do have a scooter either.

3582
02:47:51,719 --> 02:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Dan doesn't either. We filled his bat up with mac

3583
02:47:54,079 --> 02:47:55,280
and cheese and it's just happening.

3584
02:47:55,959 --> 02:48:00,680
Speaker 3: Nothing. Self injured all the time. Mike. Between the two

3585
02:48:00,760 --> 02:48:02,920
of us, we're both pretty safe.

3586
02:48:03,040 --> 02:48:05,719
Speaker 4: But I think it's possible that I could get murked

3587
02:48:05,799 --> 02:48:07,600
yelling at someone in a bar, so I would say

3588
02:48:07,879 --> 02:48:08,479
Dan than me.

3589
02:48:08,639 --> 02:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Then you agreed. I think I'm safe. Okay, knock on?

3590
02:48:14,520 --> 02:48:19,040
Speaker 3: Would if Mike's the first to die, that's gonna be crazy.

3591
02:48:19,959 --> 02:48:22,399
Speaker 1: It's going to be an explosion. I always say that

3592
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:25,639
would be like a snake eater boss, You're gonna yell

3593
02:48:25,639 --> 02:48:29,959
your name and explode. That'd be fucking sick sick uh

3594
02:48:31,520 --> 02:48:34,040
last one self indulgent. This is from Michael and Buffalo Mike.

3595
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:35,479
I've read a bunch of your book reck one hundred

3596
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:37,399
Years Solitude Visit from the goon Squad. In the distance,

3597
02:48:37,479 --> 02:48:41,600
they've all hit Kee, the Rex coming uh City and

3598
02:48:41,680 --> 02:48:46,760
the city by China Mayville I or Keina Mayville. I

3599
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:50,840
hear people say differently all the Time. Incredible book. Uh

3600
02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:56,360
and then I guess if you like magical realism, I'd

3601
02:48:56,399 --> 02:49:00,319
say go for City of Bohan bo H a n

3602
02:49:00,399 --> 02:49:03,959
E by Kevin Berry, Irish writer. I guess rounded out

3603
02:49:03,959 --> 02:49:11,079
with an even three wind up Bird Chronicle by Harouki

3604
02:49:11,120 --> 02:49:13,559
morriccount No no, no, no no. Actually, let's let's say

3605
02:49:14,719 --> 02:49:18,680
swamp Landia by Karen Russell. Also really really good book.

3606
02:49:18,719 --> 02:49:22,040
That's that kind of vibes with those ones. Well, thank

3607
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:25,280
you everybody who wrote in. Again, that's firescape cast at gmail.

3608
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:28,440
Speaker 3: He asks me for my smut recommendations anymore.

3609
02:49:28,639 --> 02:49:32,079
Speaker 1: Fantasy fantasy, Fucker's Dwarf.

3610
02:49:31,879 --> 02:49:34,399
Speaker 2: Dix or Big, the.

3611
02:49:36,079 --> 02:49:38,760
Speaker 3: Conch in the Big Hole.

3612
02:49:40,840 --> 02:49:43,280
Speaker 1: The Big Hole, and the class quest for the clip,

3613
02:49:43,799 --> 02:49:44,600
the mythical clip.

3614
02:49:48,159 --> 02:49:49,760
Speaker 3: It's about a wrestler.

3615
02:49:51,319 --> 02:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Crunch must take the ring to the g spot, which

3616
02:49:56,280 --> 02:50:02,840
might not exist in the fabled land of female orgasms.

3617
02:50:07,479 --> 02:50:11,840
Thanks everybody. That's Firescape cast at gmail dot com. Please

3618
02:50:11,959 --> 02:50:16,600
get those questions in for next episode. Again, we restocked

3619
02:50:17,360 --> 02:50:20,000
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3620
02:50:20,040 --> 02:50:22,600
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3621
02:50:22,680 --> 02:50:27,399
water bottles the white ones. That's at Firescape Merch dot com.

3622
02:50:27,479 --> 02:50:29,079
I think we might have to re up that site.

3623
02:50:29,079 --> 02:50:30,719
We'll figure it out. It's on our Patreon. You can

3624
02:50:30,799 --> 02:50:34,719
find it we like I mentioned, if you're in the

3625
02:50:35,079 --> 02:50:39,399
New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Jersey, or just are gonna be

3626
02:50:39,440 --> 02:50:44,239
in the area. Later in October Pennsylvan October twentieth, I'm

3627
02:50:44,319 --> 02:50:48,000
helping organize a Smash pros tournament, thirty two person tournament.

3628
02:50:48,040 --> 02:50:51,239
There's gonna be a buy in. The ticket's also going

3629
02:50:51,319 --> 02:50:53,319
to get you a drink, and then they're gonna have

3630
02:50:54,159 --> 02:50:57,719
some et C We're gonna have some other wines on

3631
02:50:57,799 --> 02:51:00,959
the glass list, but then the top three players are

3632
02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:04,000
gonna get some really cool prizes from the seller. So

3633
02:51:04,399 --> 02:51:09,440
I'll post the specific details there once we get things solidified.

3634
02:51:09,479 --> 02:51:11,639
But that's basically we're almost there, so that's why I'm

3635
02:51:11,639 --> 02:51:14,680
talking about now. We are gonna keep talking about the

3636
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:18,200
dates for our Game of the Year stream. We have

3637
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:21,360
a tentative one behind the scenes, but we're not technically

3638
02:51:21,440 --> 02:51:24,399
ready to announce it yet. I'm sure that'll come soon though,

3639
02:51:24,440 --> 02:51:27,719
once we solidify things with potential travel and whatnot. It'll

3640
02:51:27,760 --> 02:51:30,639
be in Minneapolis. That'll be the usual Saturday night live

3641
02:51:30,719 --> 02:51:34,399
stream on I think on Dan's Twitch channel. We'll talk

3642
02:51:34,440 --> 02:51:37,200
more about that in the coming episodes. Dan, what do

3643
02:51:37,280 --> 02:51:40,200
you have going on in the meantime before next episode?

3644
02:51:41,079 --> 02:51:41,959
Speaker 2: Gime bomb dot com.

3645
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:45,440
Speaker 5: I think I am next up on Blake Clubs, So

3646
02:51:45,799 --> 02:51:48,520
as soon as Mike finishes up his game, I have

3647
02:51:48,559 --> 02:51:50,520
to play whatever the fuck they're send me, so that

3648
02:51:50,639 --> 02:51:53,000
should be on Wednesdays going forward. But yeah, check out

3649
02:51:53,040 --> 02:51:56,319
time bomb dot com or our YouTube channels and all

3650
02:51:56,360 --> 02:51:57,000
that good stuff.

3651
02:51:57,239 --> 02:51:59,559
Speaker 1: What is Mike playing for black Club right now? Speaking?

3652
02:51:59,639 --> 02:52:04,280
Speaker 5: Virtual hide Light for the Sega Saturn, which does not

3653
02:52:04,399 --> 02:52:06,040
look like a game for me at all.

3654
02:52:06,440 --> 02:52:08,879
Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, Mary, what do you have going on?

3655
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:13,479
Speaker 4: I will be streaming one more time, but I do

3656
02:52:14,120 --> 02:52:16,799
leave for Tokyo Game Show, So.

3657
02:52:18,959 --> 02:52:24,360
Speaker 3: These two boys will be taking over in the next episode.

3658
02:52:24,520 --> 02:52:26,719
Who knows who will be on. It could be anyone

3659
02:52:27,399 --> 02:52:27,920
because I will be.

3660
02:52:28,159 --> 02:52:29,920
Speaker 5: I want to talk about Yota. I want to talk

3661
02:52:29,920 --> 02:52:31,399
about Yota for sure. Next episode.

3662
02:52:31,399 --> 02:52:33,920
Speaker 3: Well, you got to get someone on who loves the Yota.

3663
02:52:34,959 --> 02:52:39,719
Speaker 1: Yep, we both will be talking about next episode. Jake's

3664
02:52:39,760 --> 02:52:41,799
coming to my neck of the woods in a few days.

3665
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:42,440
That'll be fun.

3666
02:52:44,040 --> 02:52:46,239
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Mike, Thank you.

3667
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:48,239
Speaker 1: How old how old do you think I am?

3668
02:52:48,719 --> 02:52:50,159
Speaker 2: Twenty four, thirty six.

3669
02:52:50,959 --> 02:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Mary's closer.

3670
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm actual answer, maybe thirty three.

3671
02:52:57,079 --> 02:52:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your final answer.

3672
02:53:00,399 --> 02:53:05,719
Speaker 2: I almost hit thirty two, probably thirty thirty four, thirty four.

3673
02:53:06,559 --> 02:53:08,879
I was like, you're a baby, okay.

3674
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:11,760
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean I don't think thirty four makes

3675
02:53:11,799 --> 02:53:14,079
me a baby. I started, I'd like, I, what are

3676
02:53:14,079 --> 02:53:14,559
you going to turn?

3677
02:53:14,639 --> 02:53:15,040
Speaker 3: Like twelve?

3678
02:53:15,319 --> 02:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I try not to complain, but I think, like I

3679
02:53:20,319 --> 02:53:23,840
hit thirty three and I actually started feeling some aging

3680
02:53:24,479 --> 02:53:26,239
and I was reading. I was reading an article like

3681
02:53:26,319 --> 02:53:29,840
apparently malebodies specifically do most of their aging when you

3682
02:53:29,959 --> 02:53:31,760
hit thirty two thirty three, and all of a sudden,

3683
02:53:31,760 --> 02:53:33,319
it happens a lot at once, and I'm feeling it.

3684
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:36,680
Speaker 2: I know it's a cliche, but it's like, yeah, there's

3685
02:53:36,719 --> 02:53:37,040
the reason.

3686
02:53:37,079 --> 02:53:40,120
Speaker 5: I'm just like surrounded by constantly fiddling with things to

3687
02:53:40,280 --> 02:53:42,079
fucking make everything feel better.

3688
02:53:42,200 --> 02:53:43,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, to no avail.

3689
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:46,959
Speaker 1: Really there is like I'm looking forward to the endless

3690
02:53:47,000 --> 02:53:49,000
battle of attrition that leads to nothing.

3691
02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:54,040
Speaker 4: Everybody's different, Yeah, mine was like around thirty five. I

3692
02:53:54,239 --> 02:53:59,719
was like, oh my, my metabolism is different. I cannot

3693
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:01,159
eat cheese fries, the way I used to.

3694
02:54:01,319 --> 02:54:02,200
Speaker 3: I just can't anymore.

3695
02:54:03,040 --> 02:54:08,799
Speaker 5: Drinking, eating, drinking, all of that stuff is becomes a

3696
02:54:08,840 --> 02:54:09,879
lot different, which is.

3697
02:54:09,879 --> 02:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Why like getting into wine is nice because I think,

3698
02:54:12,719 --> 02:54:14,600
like to truly enjoy it the way I want to.

3699
02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:17,440
It does just kind of by definition, encourage moderation. But

3700
02:54:17,600 --> 02:54:21,280
like on those rare occasions when I'm not moderating that

3701
02:54:21,479 --> 02:54:25,520
next day and or and change, my body is is

3702
02:54:25,600 --> 02:54:27,280
not built like it was when I was twenty two,

3703
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:28,479
which is.

3704
02:54:28,479 --> 02:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Probably don't worry, it gets better, don't worry.

3705
02:54:30,639 --> 02:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Great, I can't wear over yea wait, I'll be spin

3706
02:54:38,239 --> 02:54:39,760
it on that pole before you know it.

3707
02:54:40,280 --> 02:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Get older.

3708
02:54:41,719 --> 02:54:43,399
Speaker 5: It is fun though, like because all your friends are

3709
02:54:43,440 --> 02:54:45,639
getting older too, so it's like everyone's just kind of

3710
02:54:45,719 --> 02:54:50,159
like you can all talk about it. Yeah, joining the

3711
02:54:50,239 --> 02:54:53,120
club slowly, yeah yeah, and then we're all just gonna

3712
02:54:53,159 --> 02:54:54,600
it's gonna get worse until we die.

3713
02:54:54,520 --> 02:54:55,799
Speaker 1: And then I'll be on the pole at the fuck

3714
02:54:55,879 --> 02:54:57,440
fuck club. My favorite chef.

3715
02:54:58,159 --> 02:54:59,200
Speaker 2: That's what we're having our meetup.

3716
02:54:59,639 --> 02:55:03,239
Speaker 3: Helly, Yeah, here he comes. What was my poll guy name?

3717
02:55:04,760 --> 02:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Brick Tension, Gronk mccallahan, Oh, Fatty Chubb Chub or something

3718
02:55:14,799 --> 02:55:14,959
like that.

3719
02:55:15,159 --> 02:55:17,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's something about a dick and chubb. I

3720
02:55:17,959 --> 02:55:22,440
guess fat slim cock, slimcock.

3721
02:55:22,840 --> 02:55:29,040
Speaker 3: It's a terrible and all the women are like, do

3722
02:55:29,239 --> 02:55:30,840
even notice what's down there?

3723
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Single fucking big boy with a pencil dick mean anything?

3724
02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:38,399
Speaker 2: Somebody's into it?

3725
02:55:38,760 --> 02:55:42,879
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, more

3726
02:55:42,959 --> 02:55:46,719
power to them. Why did someone write fine Time, way

3727
02:55:46,799 --> 02:55:49,440
way way at the bottom of our Masters show run

3728
02:55:49,520 --> 02:55:53,280
of show no idea where that could possibly be fine time?

3729
02:55:57,079 --> 02:56:00,000
Speaker 3: This is when we were coming up with wine magazin

3730
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:05,120
seen names. Oh I remember that podcast names Wine Time.

3731
02:56:06,600 --> 02:56:10,159
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gross. All right, Well, thank you boy for

3732
02:56:10,399 --> 02:56:15,479
joining us. That was episode sixty seven. We're looking forward

3733
02:56:15,520 --> 02:56:18,239
to June. It's gonna be here. It's gonna be a

3734
02:56:18,280 --> 02:56:21,559
good summer this summer, so we'll see you the next episode.

3735
02:56:21,920 --> 02:56:23,879
Thanks for joining. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,