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Speaker 1: brought to you by Garage Pierre Boss.
Speaker 2: We're walking in Memphis on the Last Fan Most Than Podcast.
Speaker 3: Are we not? I think we have a nice a
Speaker 3: nice gallant stride.
Speaker 2: Its gallant stride and Terry Bulay, along with his good
Speaker 2: friend Ed Boulder at Leslie, I have now landed in
Speaker 2: the Continental Wrestling Association run by Jerry Jarrett. The year
Speaker 2: is nineteen seventy nine on the Complete Hull Cogan. The
Speaker 2: year has been nineteen seventy nine for like four months.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you you know, I mean you said it.
Speaker 3: You said it the moment we hit nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe. I cannot believe how much happened to
Speaker 3: him in this one year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if we're going to do the Complete Hulkog
Speaker 2: in the right way, the way listeners of the Labs
Speaker 2: Fan Wrestling podcast expect us to, we need to screech
Speaker 2: to a halt, not stop until every stone available to
Speaker 2: us is unturned. And even though we touched on Alabama
Speaker 2: in recent weeks and his run through the Gulf Coast
Speaker 2: Territory in Southeastern wrestling. There was some overlap, as we
Speaker 2: talked about back then and as we'll talk about this
Speaker 2: week with his Memphis run, where from the very beginning
Speaker 2: he's involved with territory head honcho and top superstar Jerry
Speaker 2: the King, Lawler, Hulk Hogan Boss, Terry Buley meets everyone
Speaker 2: who's going to make a material difference to his wrestling
Speaker 2: career in his first year in the business after coming
Speaker 2: back to it, I.
Speaker 3: Really it's it.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the real term that I wanted
Speaker 3: to use is because it's almost like kind of like
Speaker 3: a letdown in a way, because it's like nothing special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all we thought it was, right, he met
Speaker 2: all these people under banal circumstances. They didn't just land
Speaker 2: in his life at a magical time. He knew everybody
Speaker 2: that you think he made magic with later in the
Speaker 2: AWABF before.
Speaker 3: Right exactly. And it's like there's it just it's a
Speaker 3: reminder that nothing that there's nothing original, right, there's nothing
Speaker 3: original in the rest, well in anything really, I mean
Speaker 3: everything's been done a million times, and certainly in wrestling
Speaker 3: has been done a trillion times, and I think even
Speaker 3: here in Memphis, we're going to see things redone from
Speaker 3: Ron Fuller Southeastern Territory, where Terry Bully first re entered
Speaker 3: the business after that aborted stint in seventy seven in Florida,
Speaker 3: followed by the year nineteen seventy eight working at a
Speaker 3: bar in Cocoa Beach and running a gym, and then
Speaker 3: coming back with Ed Leslie the future Brutus Beefcake to Memphis.
Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time last week in the
Speaker 3: first episode of the year talking about all of the
Speaker 3: different origin stories as to how Terry and Ed came
Speaker 3: to Memphis, who reached out too, who was involved with you?
Speaker 3: And it turns out that people we thought were working
Speaker 3: at cross purposes, like Louis Tulay, had his hands in
Speaker 3: every single basket he was. Oh, of course, of course,
Speaker 3: come on, he was just.
Speaker 2: As much working for the Fuller welches that had to
Speaker 2: do with Memphis as he was the ones that had
Speaker 2: to do it seems with Gulf Co Southeastern. It's just
Speaker 2: truly hilarious. Louis t Lay truly sits at the center
Speaker 2: of it. But to what degree he was just kind
Speaker 2: of a proxy or a Patsy, Let's say yes, yes.
Speaker 2: The power brokers in the business such as they were,
Speaker 2: You're Ready Graham's, You're Jerry jarrett's're, Ron Fuller's, Jim Barnett,
Speaker 2: and so many others. All of these power players in
Speaker 2: the seventies in the NWA all have a hand in
Speaker 2: guiding Terry Boley's inaugural quest through the business as Terry Boulder.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's coming here first. In May of nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine, from Alabama to Memphis. We talked about over
Speaker 2: several episodes of the Alabama part of our leg of
Speaker 2: our journey about how Ron Fuller was accustomed to sharing
Speaker 2: a lot of talent from his territory with Memphis and
Speaker 2: vice versa, because his brother Robert Fuller was booking for
Speaker 2: territory owner Jerry Jarrett, and as we talked about last week,
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler himself by this point also a percentage owner
Speaker 2: of the Memphis territory, which of course explained why he
Speaker 2: stayed in Memphis all of that time while the wrestling
Speaker 2: business became a national phenomenon and spread its wings way
Speaker 2: beyond the typical territorial boundaries. But that's what you did
Speaker 2: back then. Boss, when you wanted to keep your top
Speaker 2: star local and homesteaded, you cut him in on the territory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Way to make a whole lot more money in a
Speaker 2: justified way than the rest of the boys on the card.
Speaker 2: And to hear Terry Bully tell it in his second book,
Speaker 2: that's why he came here because he started comparing what
Speaker 2: Jerry Jarrett was offering him to come up to Memphis
Speaker 2: compared to what he was making as a what behind
Speaker 2: the years but still main eventing and NBA world title challenging.
Speaker 3: I again, just something that's just not not able to
Speaker 3: really be be processed now. It's just it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I know, it really feels like it feels like a
Speaker 3: fantasy or like a tall tale that we were told about.
Speaker 3: Yes how you know, wrestled Andre the Giant before he
Speaker 3: was three months old in the business as Terry the
Speaker 3: Holpe Boulder headlining sold out stadiums in Dothan, Alabama. We
Speaker 3: got so much color and texture around of time that
Speaker 3: essentially no videotape exists of and as we talked about
Speaker 3: last week, that's not so much the case in Memphis though,
Speaker 3: scant tape seems to remain of his run. There, there's
Speaker 3: a lot more, and importantly, there's tape of his unveiling,
Speaker 3: which is what's critically missing from what we have from Southeastern.
Speaker 3: You know, the arm Giant arm wrestling angle and the
Speaker 3: outlaw match. Those things kind of happen in media res.
Speaker 3: They happened after he's already established himself and the commentators
Speaker 3: that are used to referring to him as somebody that's
Speaker 3: already been established with the audience. But here, thank god,
Speaker 3: we have the vignette that we talked so much about
Speaker 3: last week, recorded after I think six whoppers was it
Speaker 3: or fifteen whoppers something like that. I think it was
Speaker 3: seven eight whoppers, And I'm sure that's just what he ate.
Speaker 3: Those are just the whoppers that he ate, little one,
Speaker 3: the whoppers that he told.
Speaker 2: Absolute onslaught of aio art of Hulk whoppers and Christine
Speaker 2: Jarrett's fucking kitchen or whatever or Jerry Jart's wife's kitchen
Speaker 2: with Christine there in the background, is just it's all
Speaker 2: about whoppers. It's all about fast food. Terry Bulea is
Speaker 2: a fast food fat kid from Tampa.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. Yes, listen, that's just it exactly,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, come on, you know it's funny
Speaker 3: how they not. I don't know Florida has, but you know,
Speaker 3: you think about California, you know, and you think about
Speaker 3: how you know, you think about movie stars and all
Speaker 3: you think about how healthy you have, all the everyone
Speaker 3: you know, you think of California, you think of health. Okay,
Speaker 3: but you know how many fucking fast food chains are
Speaker 3: out there. They're all out there. The only one that's
Speaker 3: missing is water Burger, all right. But the same thing
Speaker 3: with Florida, just loaded with fast food chains. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What California did is it wrapped its hands around the
Speaker 2: throat of America's idea of what health looks like and
Speaker 2: converted it into the look of a bodybuilder, which is right.
Speaker 2: You know, since time immemorial has been enhanced with synthetic
Speaker 2: hormones and other kinds of bullshit, to say nothing of
Speaker 2: synthetic tans and just the complete falsity of the kind
Speaker 2: of tan you can get when you just loaf around
Speaker 2: all day in California. Like that's a like, that's a
Speaker 2: standard of health that people can can strive to when
Speaker 2: they can't lay around the Beach all day and yeah,
Speaker 2: Hogan was, so he talked about it, even though, as
Speaker 2: you know, careful examination proves that he was being referred
Speaker 2: to as being from Tampa as Terry the Hulk Boulder,
Speaker 2: not from California as time when he kind of got
Speaker 2: the hint that, man, I come to some of these
Speaker 2: small towns, I tell people, I'm from California, I'm from
Speaker 2: Venice Beach, I'm from where Arnold is and pumping iron
Speaker 2: or all the great bodybuilders over the years have been
Speaker 2: associated with. They think a fucking a god among men
Speaker 2: has arrived in their humble little town, in their humble
Speaker 2: little corner of the country. And I don't know exactly
Speaker 2: when it's going to start, but our ears are going
Speaker 2: to be perked up for where Terry Boulder starts referring
Speaker 2: to himself as a Californian. And it's not unlike you know,
Speaker 2: Superstar Graham kind of did that, and as he continues
Speaker 2: to borrow from the Superstar gram playbook, of course, Graham
Speaker 2: was actually from Arizona, so an actual West Coaster but
Speaker 2: still definitely a little bit of a hint there as
Speaker 2: to how it'd be framed up. But I can't wait
Speaker 2: to get into this Memphis thing. We watched the vignette
Speaker 2: the Hall and he's coming here.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm webinar at advertising him coming to someplace else,
Speaker 3: because that would kind of be weird.
Speaker 2: Right, and it would only make so much it would
Speaker 2: make too much sense. Rather, if we've learned anything from
Speaker 2: the complete Hull Cogan and the way territories were constituted
Speaker 2: back then and how decisions were made, it would make
Speaker 2: too much sense for that vignette to be the first
Speaker 2: thing that WMCTV Channel five Memphis viewers saw of Hulls No,
Speaker 2: of course, three months before that vignette air, three months
Speaker 2: before he was advertised as coming to the rescue of
Speaker 2: his brother Ed Boulder. He was in the ring in Memphis.
Speaker 2: He was tag teaming with Jerry Lawler at the Mid
Speaker 2: South Coliseum. He was being referred to on Memphis television
Speaker 2: as an active wrestler who's out there at a high
Speaker 2: level competing. So I just can't imagine, you know. We
Speaker 2: talk about how weird it would be for fans to
Speaker 2: see holk Hegan go to WWF in the eighties and
Speaker 2: become this national phenomenon. To have seen him in Dothan
Speaker 2: when well, the only people who cared about him were
Speaker 2: in a tri city area in Alabama, and just like
Speaker 2: that guy. I mean, but what if you're a week
Speaker 2: to week wrestling fan in Memphis in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: and in the spring around May you see Terry the
Speaker 2: Hope Boulder being featured on television teaming with Jerry Lawler,
Speaker 2: this massive guy making an impact. You read about him
Speaker 2: in the papers and such, and then he disappears, and
Speaker 2: then come the summer, they're introducing this vignette like you've
Speaker 2: never seen him before and like he's coming here for
Speaker 2: the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that of course, why wouldn't they do that?
Speaker 2: Best as I can tell, that was essentially the way
Speaker 2: you would have received it, because there's a difference between
Speaker 2: the first run, where Boulder comes here for a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks as so many did who are working for
Speaker 2: Ron Fuller down in Alabama, and the second run, which,
Speaker 2: as we've talked about, represents a clean break from Alabama
Speaker 2: after having the Harley Race match and then making it
Speaker 2: up to Memphis for what you consider more of a
Speaker 2: full time, proper stint in the territory. So we're going
Speaker 2: to figure out how both bites of the Apple looked
Speaker 2: and felt to fans of really one of the most zany, creative,
Speaker 2: well remembered territories in the history of wrestling territories, Memphis,
Speaker 2: particularly under the Jerry Jarrett and Jerry Lawler's auspices. And
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot of fun doing it because
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of great material and tape, a
Speaker 2: mast and some key stuff survives that we're going to
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Speaker 2: close to you, or a reason to incite his paranoia.
Speaker 2: Well you want some of that ship. Let's fucking get
Speaker 2: into Memphis. Okay, there we go. Let's uh. Let's let's
Speaker 2: get in that beat up van that ed Leslie and
Speaker 2: Terry Boulay drove from Cocoa Beach to Dothan, Alabama, and
Speaker 2: let's take it up whatever highway it would be to Memphis,
Speaker 2: and let's let's camp out there. Let's see what's going now.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna go up there, who's gonna train you
Speaker 2: to get a little better at wrestling? I bet you're
Speaker 2: never gonna guess who.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 2: The tutelage that Hulk Hogan and ed Leslie sought out
Speaker 2: in Memphis. He learned so much from Ron Fuller in
Speaker 2: Alabama and others. He learned a lot from Brian Blair
Speaker 2: and others in Florida. Who do you think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be in Memphis? I'll give you five guesses. I don't
Speaker 2: think I guess, Jeff Jarrett, we have like what like
Speaker 2: five at this point. Jeff Jarrett right, true, Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: not even.
Speaker 3: Uh uh well, I mean it would be too easy
Speaker 3: if it was lawlor Well. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know who was out in Memphis at this point. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm I'm no good here, Coco, No the the funk
Speaker 3: out of here? Where this.
Speaker 2: Shooting with our video about Hulk and Ed coming to
Speaker 2: Memphis back when he was there as Cocoa.
Speaker 9: Were Titlematchnetwork dot Com? What about all your initial impressions
Speaker 9: about Hulk Oagan Hunk was.
Speaker 10: Another guy that I have.
Speaker 5: I have hugging out a lot when he when he
Speaker 5: when he was down in Tennessee, he didn't know anything.
Speaker 5: He went his turrar boater and there was Beefcake as
Speaker 5: an any bowlder.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Hunk didn't know anything. And he would just come out
Speaker 5: of the Mike Graham school, you know, playing basic guitar
Speaker 5: of some rock and roll band down Florida with Mike
Speaker 5: Graham and all those guys. Yeah, they didn't really want
Speaker 5: to show him anything. So and and Terry was so
Speaker 5: big then he didn't he could walk down every people
Speaker 5: just stop, you know, man, he was he was he
Speaker 5: was three hundred pounds and he looked great. I mean
Speaker 5: and uh so, but he didn't know anything about wrestling.
Speaker 5: So and I told him one time, I said, in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 5: Because I remember the time he wrestled in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 5: They had him for uh. Promoter had him go out
Speaker 5: and slam Terry. All of what you do pick the
Speaker 5: guy up and barrohog him and drop him, shoot him
Speaker 5: in and barrohog him and drop him. He must have
Speaker 5: did that fifteen times in the ring and won the match. Beefcake,
Speaker 5: all of what you do is slam the guy, drop elbows,
Speaker 5: slam the guy drop elbow. But Terry wanted to do
Speaker 5: something else. He want to do more. He wanted to do.
Speaker 5: He want actually he wanted to drop kick and everything.
Speaker 3: What but h I said, no, no.
Speaker 5: So he had a big old green Lincoln town, big
Speaker 5: town car Lincoln. They love to go to the grocery
Speaker 5: stores by big sacks of groceries. Man go up down
Speaker 5: highways and drink his cobs and stuff like that. Uh,
Speaker 5: the wops apples and oranges and things. And and we
Speaker 5: would and road trip was like four hundred miles one way,
Speaker 5: you know, And then we would drive four hundred miles
Speaker 5: back and go run straight to the gym and we
Speaker 5: come really close, and uh, nobody was showing nothing in
Speaker 5: mephis you know, because they didn't they I think that
Speaker 5: was that's when Jared Lawler beat him. You know, he
Speaker 5: beat Hogan there, right, and yeah, that's why he hates
Speaker 5: Laller today.
Speaker 6: I guess he still hates my hope not.
Speaker 5: But anyway, Uh, but all he did beat beat fact Lawler,
Speaker 5: beat Andrea Giant, remember, yeah, and Vince Senior like I
Speaker 5: had a cow and when he heard about it, you.
Speaker 11: Know, the mission beating my giants, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And so so when the Hogan Terry wanted they wanted
Speaker 5: to learn how. So I took him to back up
Speaker 5: where my little old training camp then Dysburg, Tennessee. We
Speaker 5: went in there and I showed terrys and moves. I
Speaker 5: showed him how to clothes line somebody, and I show
Speaker 5: him how to.
Speaker 11: Hit the rope.
Speaker 5: I said, you do big man stuff, you roll around
Speaker 5: the ring and stuff.
Speaker 6: And I said, but it'll.
Speaker 3: Come natural to you.
Speaker 5: I want to drop kick, and I said, you don't
Speaker 5: need to do that. Let Beefcake do the drop at
Speaker 5: the time. Eddie let him do the drop kicks and
Speaker 5: stuff and he left the area and he went to
Speaker 5: Minneapolis for burn. So I never did see him until
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six when he went to We was in WWL,
Speaker 5: and that's when he was hot as a pistol when
Speaker 5: I went up there. But you know what, he never
Speaker 5: forgot kocobe.
Speaker 3: Ware so a lot there, I mean so so now.
Speaker 3: So now he's saying that Hulk didn't know how to
Speaker 3: wrestle by the timing Huan to Memphis, right, even though
Speaker 3: he was wrestling quite a bit and had at least
Speaker 3: had enough promise to fucking wrestle Holly Race under the
Speaker 3: Giant all that stuff, But it was Kocoby warehole ox Biker.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying these guys are awesome workers. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying he worked with people that had been you know,
Speaker 2: headline wrestlers for.
Speaker 3: Years, right right exactly. But apparently as kokob Ware, who's
Speaker 3: the one who actually trained Hulk Hogan to be the
Speaker 3: legend that he is, just add him to the running
Speaker 3: tab of people kids didn't but didn't show. It's too
Speaker 3: much these fucking people.
Speaker 2: Like one of the things that I think is in there,
Speaker 2: which I didn't really bother to pull out because it's
Speaker 2: hard to do if you could even do it. Is
Speaker 2: Hulk comes back in eighty one, which is when he
Speaker 2: has the Jerry Lawler match that he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Is it the one that's on the tape.
Speaker 2: That's the one that's on the tape. Yeah, that's post singlet.
Speaker 2: He's now wearing black trunks, right, he looks a little
Speaker 2: bit more like just an outfit the Hull Cogan we
Speaker 2: come to know. And that's the year that he's kind
Speaker 2: of going back and forth between you know, smattering of
Speaker 2: territories Japan and the Awa where he's first starting to
Speaker 2: make his in roads there. So I think what a
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about Terry Boleya in Memphis, they
Speaker 2: congeal this time period several months in nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 2: that he was first there and his return in eighty one,
Speaker 2: after he had already gone to work for WWWF and
Speaker 2: wrestled under the Giant Shay Stadium and done a ton
Speaker 2: of other stuff in the business, first went to Japan.
Speaker 2: So he's a much different wrestle. But it's even more
Speaker 2: hilarious for cocobe where to claim that that Hull Cogan didn't.
Speaker 3: Know how to wrestle.
Speaker 2: So I put my chips on. He's rememory him in
Speaker 2: seventy nine because he talks about him an equal measure
Speaker 2: with Ed Leslie, you know, as if they were both
Speaker 2: kind of joined the hip, which wouldn't have really so
Speaker 2: much been the case in eighty one as far as
Speaker 2: I can tell. But we'll get into a little bit
Speaker 2: of that. We'll stretch the timeline a little bit in
Speaker 2: the spirit of saying as much as needs to be
Speaker 2: said for cohesion about the eighty one Memphis matches here
Speaker 2: in seventy nine as well, because as we get into
Speaker 2: the eighties, man, it just gets ridiculous for this guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have no choice but to go chronologically
Speaker 2: at that point because there is just so much going
Speaker 2: on across the globe. Yeah, exactly, But here let us
Speaker 2: enjoy a little bit of the timeline flexibility that comes
Speaker 2: with grouping nineteen seventy nine. It even occurred to me afterwards,
Speaker 2: it said, you know, because we spent so much time
Speaker 2: in the Alabama episodes talking about the Ron Fuller Territorial
Speaker 2: War for Knoxville with a Bob Rupen company, that we
Speaker 2: should probably put Terry's matches at the end of seventy
Speaker 2: nine including losing to Bob Armstrong on Christmas Night in
Speaker 2: Knoxville in the Alabama section, because that was the territory
Speaker 2: that Ron Fuller was spending all of his energy focusing
Speaker 2: on winning the war war when Terry Boulder was doing
Speaker 2: so well for him. But it really probably belongs with
Speaker 2: Georgia Championship Wrestling owned by Jim Barnett, because it's only
Speaker 2: after Barnett buys Knoxville from Ron Fuller, when he throws
Speaker 2: his hands up on the whole thing, that Terry Bulla
Speaker 2: actually goes to Knoxville. So it's not like he go
Speaker 2: which isn't in Alabama of course, which is also inconvenient,
Speaker 2: So it's not like he goes to work for Ron
Speaker 2: Fuller in Knoxville. By the time he goes to Knoxville, it's,
Speaker 2: I would argue, more part of Georgia Championship Wrestling than
Speaker 2: it is a part of Southeastern But you know that,
Speaker 2: such as life, we're going to navigate through this as
Speaker 2: we go and right and just you know, make corrections
Speaker 2: as we go. We're going to have the backing of
Speaker 2: the solar system, which continues to amaze me. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have to do a controlled release of the stuff
Speaker 2: we're getting. But if you only knew the stuff that
Speaker 2: arrives in our in box.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's crazy. It really is crazy.
Speaker 2: From people out there, from all walks of life, all ages,
Speaker 2: all stripes, all geographies, who are like I need to contribute.
Speaker 2: I need to make sure that if we're all in
Speaker 2: this together telling the complete story of Hull Coke, and
Speaker 2: that this is in there somewhere, that this little thing
Speaker 2: I found gets mentioned, that this little thing gets recast
Speaker 2: in a way that might, you know, not be completely
Speaker 2: apparent to the casual observer. So we're gonna be swelling
Speaker 2: with pride as the weeks and weeks and weeks unfold
Speaker 2: of the complete hul Coke and some of the things
Speaker 2: that we're gonna be able to bring to you.
Speaker 3: And I just I'm giddy.
Speaker 2: I feel like I just feel like saying it all
Speaker 2: right now, but I simply can't because I know we
Speaker 2: need cohesion here, yep, the degree possible. So for the
Speaker 2: first time in our Memphis leg of the journey, we're
Speaker 2: going to turn to some tape beyond just the the
Speaker 2: Hulk vignette that introduced him, and we're going to go
Speaker 2: before that to when he very first came into the territory.
Speaker 2: And again, huge shout out to the Intrepid Solar System
Speaker 2: member Matt for compiling a lot of this stuff in
Speaker 2: concert with us. And we're going to start with the
Speaker 2: very first file you'll see their boss. It's from May fourteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, and it's a newspaper clipping that ran
Speaker 2: in the Memphis Press, skim Tar, Skimitar. I believe this
Speaker 2: is how you pronounce the name of the newspaper, Simitar,
Speaker 2: Smitar May eleventh, nineteen seventy nine. As well as that
Speaker 2: May eleventh is a print ad for the upcoming wrestling
Speaker 2: from Jarrett Wrestling Company at the Mid South Colisseum. And
Speaker 2: then we're also going to have a snippet here from
Speaker 2: the May fifteenth edition of that newspaper in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: where there's actual coverage of what happens.
Speaker 3: But this is it.
Speaker 2: This is going to be Terry Boley's very first, very
Speaker 2: first appearance in Memphis in May of seventy nine. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, So I'll do the print ad and then
Speaker 2: he can do.
Speaker 3: The news piece.
Speaker 2: So it's got a picture of Jerry Lawler looking his idiot.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't why why is an idiot? He
Speaker 2: just has hair and a goatee, and.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I he's like he just always
Speaker 3: looks smug, smug all the time. I just I can't
Speaker 3: his his shit eating grin, like in his stupid haircut.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not. But the thing that bothers
Speaker 2: me about Lawler's visage at this point in time is
Speaker 2: he he he has the look in his face of
Speaker 2: someone who thinks he's attractive to w Yes, that's exactly
Speaker 2: what it is. And I'm not saying he wasn't. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he didn't crush. He probably puts so many
Speaker 2: girls through the mattress in.
Speaker 3: Memphis it doesn't matter, I mean, because but the thing
Speaker 3: is this, if he wasn't Jerry Lawler, and he wasn't,
Speaker 3: the rest just looks like he could just be another
Speaker 3: tubby little bit. And he looked like that walking around
Speaker 3: the supermarket, like right, I mean, maybe I'm just because
Speaker 3: don't forget, it's not like he was cut either. That's
Speaker 3: the right. He wasn't cut. He was just a little
Speaker 3: a little rotund, little fuckhead. And well, I mean that's
Speaker 3: that's what you need about wrestling. Man, like he drew
Speaker 3: so much money, and it's like, yeah, exactly, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's what you know. He's he's the equivalent of
Speaker 3: of It's the equivalent of of of the nerdy kid
Speaker 3: who fucking All of a sudden you find out he
Speaker 3: plays guitar and it's like, oh, you want to fuck him?
Speaker 3: You know, that's what it is, like. He hasn't nothing
Speaker 3: like that. There's something about like what he does that
Speaker 3: makes you want to fuck him. And it's got nothing
Speaker 3: to do with how he looks, because he's just he's
Speaker 3: just an idiot.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, as you've said before, he's allowed to
Speaker 2: exist in a creepy way, and I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: A huge, you know issue, you know that needs to
Speaker 2: be tabled every time he comes up.
Speaker 3: Frankly, because it's funny too, because I also feel like
Speaker 3: he's someone who doesn't who never really understood that people
Speaker 3: probably just wanted to fuck him so they could brag
Speaker 3: it work that they fucked Jerry Lawler. Oh the same
Speaker 3: to him, right, But I feel like he yeah, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't. I also feel like he's someone who who
Speaker 3: probably like wanted to be loved and whatever. It's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but the problem is nobody did, and nobody does, and
Speaker 3: they just want to use him for what he for
Speaker 3: what he has.
Speaker 2: So now we get that out of the way. There's
Speaker 2: his floating head, as was typical of seventies print ads
Speaker 2: for wrestling, you just have one guy's floating head. And
Speaker 2: it's a Monday, May fourteenth, a PM, Mid South Coliseum.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a double main event in the
Speaker 2: loser Leaves Town match.
Speaker 3: Is that saying the last main event? And yeah, the
Speaker 3: last last meeting between these two, the last main event ever,
Speaker 3: there's never going to be another main event.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is Jerry Jarrett's copywriting skills being put to
Speaker 2: work here, no time limit, notice qualification. It's going to
Speaker 2: be Jerry Lawler versus Jimmy Golden, the future bunk House Buck.
Speaker 2: So that'll be a little bit of a connective tissue there,
Speaker 2: as Jimmy Golden, someone that Ron Fuller would talk a
Speaker 2: lot about and use back then in the territory. I
Speaker 2: think they were cousins. I don't even know everyone's cousins
Speaker 2: and Southern Heavyweight title. This is the this is the
Speaker 2: subject of our focus underneath the Jerry Lawler main event,
Speaker 2: which helps you know frame for you what was going
Speaker 2: on at the top of the card back then. It's
Speaker 2: the Mongolian stomper Archie Goldie, who was I don't know,
Speaker 2: we can't get into him now, but he was a
Speaker 2: huge territorial heel to the seventies Prickly not Mills, Alan Stewarts,
Speaker 2: Alan Stewart, No, Nope, huge heel, particularly in Calgary where
Speaker 2: he feuded with with Stu and the boys for years.
Speaker 2: Presented that is to say, managed was the stomper by
Speaker 2: gorgeous George Junior, who we've talked about before. We're going
Speaker 2: to get a look at here in just a little
Speaker 2: bit so you can know who asked himself off as
Speaker 2: kind to George Junior in the territory and boss what
Speaker 2: what is the what does the ad say there? Who
Speaker 2: is to oppose them on Lillian number? The mystery wrestler?
Speaker 3: That's all. It's mysterio, isn't Ray mysterio? The mystery wrestler.
Speaker 2: He's the king of mystery. I guess this doesn't say
Speaker 2: anything about him being royalty.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Presented by Jerry law Presented by Jerry Lawler, so from
Speaker 2: the very beginning spoiler alert, the mystery wrestler they're referring
Speaker 2: to here is to be Terry the Hulk Boulder was
Speaker 2: presented from day one in the territory, in fact, before
Speaker 2: even day one in the papers as someone brought to
Speaker 2: you by Jerry the King Lawler. So the idea, which
Speaker 2: is too didn't cross paths to Lady one or have
Speaker 2: anything to do with each other to Lady one.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny too, because like, it's what what I
Speaker 3: consider to be again, sorry Coco, but if if, if, if,
Speaker 3: if Hogan was as green as exactly everyone's saying, then
Speaker 3: why the fuck is Jerry Lawler a atching himself to
Speaker 3: him immediately? Right?
Speaker 2: If he is Harley is Andrea is Fuller is ox
Speaker 2: Baker is Uh, maybe green doesn't mean what we think
Speaker 2: it does, because apparently it doesn't mean anything to be
Speaker 2: green if you can walk in to a territory and
Speaker 2: headline with like six months under your belt of real
Speaker 2: wrestling experience.
Speaker 3: Because he's like, because because Coco is making it seem
Speaker 3: like that that Hogan needed to be fucking groomed here
Speaker 3: before he could before he could be anything of worth,
Speaker 3: And it's like certainly not.
Speaker 2: I am mad that he didn't teach him the drop kick, though,
Speaker 2: because I would have loved to see Hogan dropkicks.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We've never seen him dropkick, have we.
Speaker 2: I've seen inzaguris in Japan, but I have not seen dropkick.
Speaker 3: Yes, yep. And and segury yep. And yeah that's that's that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Imagine Hogan dropkicking, that's insane. That would have been such
Speaker 2: a great thing. Like if he pulled that out against Warrior,
Speaker 2: like when it was getting desperate.
Speaker 3: You know, oh, or against one of the fatties, you know,
Speaker 3: that would have been great too. Yeah, that would have
Speaker 3: been what it would be most useful is against one
Speaker 3: of the fatties. I mean, I'll consider it throwing down
Speaker 3: the gauntlet to the Solar system.
Speaker 2: Find it. Find me an instance. I'm sure he did
Speaker 2: in Japan once or something like, show me video of
Speaker 2: hulkg and throwing a dropkick, and you'll get a special
Speaker 2: shout out here on the complete Hull Coke because that's
Speaker 2: kind of something I realized when Coco was talking there.
Speaker 2: That's kind of something I realize I need. It's so
Speaker 2: funnycause we talked about how limited the moves were for
Speaker 2: Hogan and everything, and through paying off the Pacific, we
Speaker 2: kind of laid that out. It's like, not necessarily the
Speaker 2: case if you watch just different matches he's had, and
Speaker 2: different opponents he's come up against, and different sets of
Speaker 2: expectations from the audience. If he's working fucking eight days
Speaker 2: a week in New York and flying three times across
Speaker 2: the country in a week, yes he's going to take
Speaker 2: it easy, so to speak. But and I'm not saying
Speaker 2: he was a great worker.
Speaker 3: He was not.
Speaker 2: But one thing that is a function of the fact
Speaker 2: that he had such a limited move set is just
Speaker 2: like it becomes fucking fascinating and the subject of myth
Speaker 2: and aura to the highest when he fucking does a
Speaker 2: drop toe hold exactly all right, tell me that's not
Speaker 2: good working.
Speaker 3: One extra thing. People talk about it for thirty years.
Speaker 3: If Hogan fucking actually you know, starts wrestling for real,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, where the fuck did this come from? Real?
Speaker 2: Well, we know he's been doing it since. You know,
Speaker 2: his high school football coach challenged from in the locker room.
Speaker 3: I got a fucking he knows how to chicken wing,
Speaker 3: and coming from Tampa, we know very well, he knows
Speaker 3: all about chicken wings.
Speaker 2: And he's about to get a surplus of such in Memphis.
Speaker 2: Out of the family where. Let's put it this way,
Speaker 2: waistline was not a concern. Okay, you could be Harry
Speaker 2: Lawler is your fucking main event, exactly. You could be
Speaker 2: the cock of the walk. You could be every lady's regret,
Speaker 2: and you could eat ample barbecue. It's right, ample maked
Speaker 2: mac and cheese. I mean, there's no waistline because nothing
Speaker 2: goes to waste. I mean, just Jerry Jarrett alone, like
Speaker 2: God bless him. But that guy was like a teenage
Speaker 2: heart throb, brooxide blonde babyface. That was the nature of
Speaker 2: the territory then. I think they had it. They had
Speaker 2: it figured out. They didn't have to fucking hit their
Speaker 2: body up with so many things that their heart failed prematurely.
Speaker 2: You know, not to say there weren't heart attacks back then,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't because of synthetic hormones and testosterone and
Speaker 2: all this fools. So yeah, Mongolian stompers just synthetic juices.
Speaker 2: They injected their chicken wax. You know, wrestling was better
Speaker 2: when the only thing that was synthetic were the matches.
Speaker 3: Uh the lap band.
Speaker 1: Wrestling podcast He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and.
Speaker 2: Car and j Pro also on the card. The Southern
Speaker 2: tag titles were on the line, as Bill Dundee, who
Speaker 2: of course was a staple of the Memphis territory under
Speaker 2: Jerry Jarrett and Jerry Lawler, teaming with Rob Fuller the
Speaker 2: booker as well against Professor Tanaka and mister Fuji. We
Speaker 2: talked no, no, no, Professor Teeka. Great spelling there t e
Speaker 2: n e k A Tanika. So it wasn't just Southeastern
Speaker 2: that had that issue spelling names. Well, and tell me
Speaker 2: what the fuck the the what's the van tournament? I
Speaker 2: can only guess the winner wins a van. I can
Speaker 2: in a Gulf coast. Fuller would do tournaments for a boat,
Speaker 2: a big fancy boat.
Speaker 3: Oh I guess, I guess. I guess it's an upgrade
Speaker 3: for PLOWBOYD Fraser. You know who that is? Who is it?
Speaker 2: That's the future, Uncle Elmer, Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. They got here in Memphis. They got
Speaker 2: they got Hillbilly Jim from Memphis. He was called Harley
Speaker 2: Davidson in Memphis. We saw last time they got Kamala
Speaker 2: from Memphis, and only they got the guy. They got
Speaker 2: the gimmick they didn't get. However, Apocalypse.
Speaker 3: One of the most just unfortunate things ever. I can't
Speaker 3: handle that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the Van Tournament matches Tony Charles versus
Speaker 2: Plowdboy Fraser, Kevin Sullivan. That's right, that Kevin Sullivan versus
Speaker 2: Dick Slater Dirty Dick and Tommy Gilbert versus Rick Connors.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is that the AWA logo down there? Yes,
Speaker 2: long story and I don't know all of the details,
Speaker 2: but they were Memphis was just as much an a
Speaker 2: w A territory as it was an NWA territory, if
Speaker 2: that makes any sense. In terms of Nick Bockwinkle would
Speaker 2: go down there as a w A champion and be
Speaker 2: recognized as like professional Wrestling's World champion, and it was
Speaker 2: like it was a more frequent I mean, they.
Speaker 3: Knew that they did have it. I knew they did
Speaker 3: have a relationship, but later on I didn't realize it
Speaker 3: was that early. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Which I think we'll explain a little bit of how
Speaker 2: Hulk we'll get the door open to him, or at
Speaker 2: least how Minneapolis would become aware of him. You know,
Speaker 2: Hulk always has a story where he goes out on
Speaker 2: a limb and jumps somewhere. But when you look at
Speaker 2: the background, it's like, no, those territories were all kissing cousins.
Speaker 2: You know, they were all fucking, you know, incestuous with
Speaker 2: each other, and they knew, they knew who was catching
Speaker 2: on before you even knew whose phone number to call
Speaker 2: to jump ship to another part of the country. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Wringside teas were five dollars back then, four dollars for
Speaker 2: what does that say? Rye Risers and the loss four
Speaker 2: I think as well watch wrestling on WMC TV channel five,
Speaker 2: the Paul Risers four dollars. So yeah, Toro to Knock
Speaker 2: and Fuji. We know he was going back and forth
Speaker 2: to Southeastern as well. He came up quite a bit
Speaker 2: and in fact, Hogan exchanged the Southern heavyweight title. I
Speaker 2: think it was with a Toro to there.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: Towards the end of seventy nine, remember we were charting that.
Speaker 2: We were like, all of a sudden, Hogan's got this
Speaker 2: belt down there and we can't tell who he lost
Speaker 2: it to. But it's just like one week they're referring
Speaker 2: to someone else as the champion after he beat it
Speaker 2: was crazy. I think Austin Idel beat him for it,
Speaker 2: and then he had it back and then Tore Tanaka
Speaker 2: was the champ, and there was no explanation as to
Speaker 2: how Hulk Hogan lost it that we could find the
Speaker 2: newspapers and that exists in the you know, the typical
Speaker 2: sort of Bible title history lists that have been out
Speaker 2: there for so many years. So yeah, come to find
Speaker 2: out this mystery wrestler. And I can't help Boss but
Speaker 2: think honestly, because if it's the way Hulk described it,
Speaker 2: where he kind of surreptitiously slipped off to Memphis to
Speaker 2: see what it was like without really getting all the
Speaker 2: go ahead, and aok from Ron Fuller that perhaps they
Speaker 2: would have wanted and Louis to let if it was
Speaker 2: a little bit of subterfuge, like ed Leslie talked about
Speaker 2: where they were sort of this agreement on the front
Speaker 2: end for Jerry Jarrett that they were just going to
Speaker 2: Alabama to like fine tune themselves and come back and
Speaker 2: make you know, the Paola was going to be in Memphis.
Speaker 2: They were the territory that was going to benefit from
Speaker 2: bringing these guys into the business. It would be surprise
Speaker 2: me if you know advertising that Hulk Cogan was coming
Speaker 2: to Memphis by putting his name in this print ad
Speaker 2: before he came to the Mid South Coliseum, and would
Speaker 2: kind of be bad for him because it would be
Speaker 2: like the ghosts. Yeah, much better for him to just
Speaker 2: show up under auspices and then establish himself with that
Speaker 2: and without having to ask for permission and forgiveness instead.
Speaker 2: But if that was indeed the design by May fifteenth
Speaker 2: has mentioned the gig was up.
Speaker 3: Let's read it.
Speaker 2: Boss the Hulk stops Stomper.
Speaker 3: Indeed, keep in mind that that Hogan gets the headline
Speaker 3: over Jerry Lawler's main event, last main event of all times.
Speaker 3: It's a great point. Terry the Hulk Boulder defeated the
Speaker 3: Stomper but failed to claim the Stomper's Southern Heavyweight belt
Speaker 3: since the decision was by his qualification in the main
Speaker 3: event of last night's wrestling show before fifty three hundred
Speaker 3: at the Mid South Coloseum, so they're calling it the
Speaker 3: main event. Wild Another bouts Professor to Naka and Food
Speaker 3: Mister Fuji won the Southern Tag title, but defeating Bill
Speaker 3: Dundee and Robert Fuller. Jerry Lawler defeated Jimmy Golden, Tommy
Speaker 3: Gilbert topped, not tapped, but topped Danny Davis, Dick Dick
Speaker 3: Slater stopped Kevin Sullivan and Kevin Sullivant. Okay, so Dick
Speaker 3: Slater topped, stopped Kevin Sullivan, but Kevin Sullivan also beat
Speaker 3: Plowboy Fraser. Yes, different spelling than in the UH the
Speaker 3: week before. Also, given that plowboy Fraser faced Tony Charles
Speaker 3: not Kevin Sullivan, it reads f R A Y s
Speaker 3: e R in the print out, Yeah right. And also
Speaker 3: plowboy is two words p l O W space b
Speaker 3: o Y Fraser, and then in the in the next
Speaker 3: week in the same fucking newspaper p l o U
Speaker 3: g H b O I b o y one word fraser,
Speaker 3: like you know you normally do so. Also, it looks
Speaker 3: like they're they're about to spell dough boy Frasers well
Speaker 3: a little more accurate. I was gonna say his real
Speaker 3: nickname in this territory was poe Boy, worshiper boy, destroyer,
Speaker 3: poe Boy consumer. But yeah, there it is. While the
Speaker 3: print ad I guess it cump on closer listing it.
Speaker 3: It does a double main event Jerrylaller, Jimmy Goolden and
Speaker 3: mcgolan Stomper. I guess yes, double main event.
Speaker 12: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that newspaper clipping is absolutely like we think
Speaker 2: this guy's a big deal and we don't care who
Speaker 2: knows it, you know, like we're not trying to ease
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan into the territory or Terry Boulder. But by
Speaker 2: the way, Terry the Hulk Boulder. Okay, they're not just
Speaker 2: calling him the Hulk. They're not just calling him Terry Boulder.
Speaker 2: They're certainly not calling him Sterling Golden. These kind of
Speaker 2: things are important to keep track of. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean right there, it's like the Hulk stops Stomper. They
Speaker 2: want I think they want some of that action that
Speaker 2: Ron Fuller is enjoying down there. That this the Hulk
Speaker 2: guy who had already wrestled Andre the Giant and done
Speaker 2: a massive crowd at the Houston County Farm Center in Dothan,
Speaker 2: massive relative to the expectations for that marketplace before his arrival.
Speaker 2: Now words out, and just two months later, or maybe
Speaker 2: a month later, here he is in Memphis doing the
Speaker 2: damn thing. Actually bothers me. The remember precisely when Hulkogan
Speaker 2: Andrea first match.
Speaker 3: One was that at Houston County Farm Center. Let's see.
Speaker 2: I believe it was March, late March. That's what my
Speaker 2: memory is telling me. Let's see a seventy nine, I
Speaker 2: see me, So maybe it was the same month.
Speaker 3: That would be kind of crazy, that would be great.
Speaker 2: They met again in August when he had the Southern
Speaker 2: Heavyweight title. Later on, Yeah, it was right around the
Speaker 2: same time. It was March or April, so right before
Speaker 2: he came to Memphis, he is wrestling Andre the Giant
Speaker 2: and headlining and selling out and the words getting around.
Speaker 2: We charted all that already, So here he is, and
Speaker 2: what we were going to do is we don't have, you know,
Speaker 2: necessarily clean footage of the entire match. But like so
Speaker 2: many territories, what they would do, if you can jump
Speaker 2: ahead one fileboss to nineteen seventy nine oh five nineteen,
Speaker 2: this is from Memphis TV, and so of course what
Speaker 2: they would do is they would show footage from the
Speaker 2: big you know, you gotta pay tickets to see it
Speaker 2: card that was filmed, usually with just one camera, and
Speaker 2: they would show it in studio. So that the people
Speaker 2: involved could commentate for the television audience over what was happening,
Speaker 2: kind of narrate and kind of make sure that what
Speaker 2: the fans were watching served their agenda if they were heels,
Speaker 2: for instance, or if they were babyfaces, explaining what was
Speaker 2: happening in the ring and how they were wronged, and
Speaker 2: get storylines over based on showing this kind of primitively
Speaker 2: shot footage.
Speaker 3: And we have it.
Speaker 2: We have what Terry Boulder looked like in this very
Speaker 2: first appearance in Memphis because Archie Gouldie, who you see
Speaker 2: in the center of that's crazy, yes, And after the
Speaker 2: right is gorgeous George Junior dressed like a mechanic for
Speaker 2: some reason. No, like you do, like truly looking like
Speaker 2: gorgeous George.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: With the voice of Memphis Wrestling and WMC Channel five,
Speaker 2: Lance Russell, about to speak to them about what happened
Speaker 2: with this new Terry the Hohope Boulder, And I remember
Speaker 2: this is before the vignette of him being the Hull.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy, it's very strange. It's hard to keep
Speaker 2: straight in your head, but it is the case. So
Speaker 2: we're going to hit play here in three to one.
Speaker 6: Play here now. This was at the Mid South Colisseum
Speaker 6: in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Ready, Boss of Hulk in action in the Mid South.
Speaker 6: Because it's looking, Oh.
Speaker 3: What do you see? Where I see the stars loosing legs?
Speaker 3: This is what he looked like up in Alabama. Wow pounds,
Speaker 3: he stands six seven. Get the moment wailing on.
Speaker 8: Him right now, the eighth Wonders in hog Heaven.
Speaker 3: The eighth Wonder in hog Heaven. Big went big back out.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry because it just gets You'm mad?
Speaker 6: What are they mad?
Speaker 13: And he wants to care people apart?
Speaker 3: And what's Coco talking about? What's anybody talking about?
Speaker 6: Jerry Lawler he has, He's.
Speaker 3: Moving around the ring like he's on fire.
Speaker 8: Everybody's back for so long.
Speaker 2: Redkneads, black boots. Wow, just a towering motherfucker.
Speaker 3: He looks huge.
Speaker 10: He just left out of here.
Speaker 6: What was his idol? Idol?
Speaker 3: How could I look at him?
Speaker 6: Look at him?
Speaker 3: Hammer away Christ out of him?
Speaker 13: He couldn't take care of that. Caden shelf Bull claimed individual.
Speaker 3: Self proclaimed individuals.
Speaker 8: You bet you.
Speaker 2: He was trying to get on the apron and Terry
Speaker 2: grabs the ropes and knees the ship out of him.
Speaker 2: Till he falls down.
Speaker 6: Well, let's take happens.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, let's listen to break of the eyes. Break
Speaker 3: of the eyes. There yet face first in the buckling,
Speaker 3: goes Terry. Oh god, I don't even know, not even
Speaker 3: in a pad there. Look at that?
Speaker 6: How much trying to break up the stommer because he
Speaker 6: pounds his head on the turn back out.
Speaker 3: You could hulk Hogan in there. It's unbling hands.
Speaker 2: Stomp programming boats are repeatedly into the corner, not throwing right,
Speaker 2: go holp go. They're chanting already already.
Speaker 3: He's gonna hooked up Stomper nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: Listen to them go as he fights back already babyface
Speaker 2: irish wat back elbow puts you down. Here we go
Speaker 2: get ready?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no. That on the belly. You've
Speaker 3: never seen that before.
Speaker 6: On the concrete floor.
Speaker 3: It's like he should have dropped the left leg, but
Speaker 3: he dropped the right across the chest, like he had
Speaker 3: to turn us so weird. As the stomper hits the floor,
Speaker 3: nursing his wounds, referee laying in the.
Speaker 6: Counter right down in front of the timer's table, climbing
Speaker 6: up an unusual position for him. Rarely have you ever
Speaker 6: seen him down on the floor like that.
Speaker 3: That's big, So they're putting him over big as someone
Speaker 3: that's taking a fight to this menace has this huge
Speaker 3: opponent he has. Indeed, Ferry Boulder, are the rights? Look
Speaker 3: at him gone kicking his ass.
Speaker 10: Whip big boot in seventy nine boot.
Speaker 2: If he was setting up for a leg. Yeah, Stomper
Speaker 2: moved to the corner. Look at these knees. Look at him,
Speaker 2: drop those fucking knees. That says the greatest wrestling in
Speaker 2: the world. It's just so much more than you're you're
Speaker 2: told to expect from him at the stage, drop.
Speaker 3: Big back body drop Stomper a huge elbow to the elbow.
Speaker 3: He's wiping the mat with Archie the Stomper Goldie who
Speaker 3: comes up and breaks the eyes out of desperation.
Speaker 6: Stomper goes for the eyes.
Speaker 3: Strawberg goes three eyes.
Speaker 2: Ah, got some jump cuts in here, jump ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh he was putting the block onto the corner. Oh
Speaker 3: a reverse. The commentary is just second or.
Speaker 6: None, nothing but sheer power there.
Speaker 10: It is.
Speaker 3: Take a shot back breaker and I'll drop.
Speaker 2: It's as much scientific wrestling as Jerry Lawler had in
Speaker 2: his matches back then, exactly that breaker across the knee
Speaker 2: Irish whip in hault bear.
Speaker 3: Hug, bear hug goes what a bear hug crowd going
Speaker 3: nape ship. It comes gorge to George Junior and he
Speaker 3: can throw up the bospears.
Speaker 6: Fine, that is a situation. We wanted to see the
Speaker 6: entire thing. I saw you up there.
Speaker 3: He turned and grass, Okay, yeah, I tell you what.
Speaker 6: He was trying to name my ape wonder.
Speaker 10: He was trying to break his legs.
Speaker 14: He's a maniac.
Speaker 15: He's insane.
Speaker 13: He needs to be in another institution.
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan need to be in the ning po Cogan's insane.
Speaker 3: Dad here hurting people. He's just hurting people.
Speaker 13: You have crazy. I have to settle myself down. They
Speaker 13: wanted to grab me the other day. And he says,
Speaker 13: settle down, gorgeous.
Speaker 10: He says, take.
Speaker 14: I'll hurt him bad.
Speaker 10: That's what needs to be doing.
Speaker 3: He says, settle down, gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Scoodius wearing him out with his boot. He's taking his
Speaker 2: boot off. You know what this proccult to a.
Speaker 3: Knee jack it on him.
Speaker 14: They need their head.
Speaker 3: Here comes Lawler for the safe Wow, look at Lawler
Speaker 3: for the save Duck King. Jerry Lawler doesn't even main
Speaker 3: event to worry about.
Speaker 13: He's trying to hurt me, Well, hurt him. He's wonder,
Speaker 13: that's your crush, that skull, that beating brains bumped.
Speaker 6: Hurt that fool.
Speaker 13: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: Nobody got the.
Speaker 13: Job done before when they tried to hurt the no boy,
Speaker 13: nobody got a gun.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna get a done to, Okay, So I
Speaker 3: can't fucking now I assume there was no real relation
Speaker 3: between this gorgon, gorgous George and they're.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean, what did we see there? Let's
Speaker 2: let's let let's chop it up.
Speaker 3: I mean that was that was the this This is
Speaker 3: the hul Cogan. You understand why he got over as
Speaker 3: he did. Why is that because you see this big,
Speaker 3: towering guy and he's just fun and wailing, and he's
Speaker 3: fast and he's exciting and he's you know, there's there's
Speaker 3: no holding back. It's not the whole Coogan that we
Speaker 3: would see where his you know, his roundhouse rights were
Speaker 3: like took about an hour to cross somebody's face. You know,
Speaker 3: these were these were crazy fast moves and stuff. It's amazing. Honestly,
Speaker 3: it's like it's kind of funny because you look at
Speaker 3: him and you see a guy like that, and and
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, he's going to be a great worker.
Speaker 2: He's gonna understand what he did. You know, he's going
Speaker 2: to be a great brawler for what was asked pro
Speaker 2: wrestlers in nineteen seventy nine. Absolutely, I mean, you know, and.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I just I just don't understand where everyone's
Speaker 3: fucking you know, the way that we hear people talking
Speaker 3: about him. I guess that's that's where it is. The
Speaker 3: way you hear people talking about him to be this
Speaker 3: kind of You expect him to be like he was
Speaker 3: in that footage that that training footage from Florida.
Speaker 2: You expect him to be like Zeus was when he
Speaker 2: came in. Yes, just this guy who's standing there like
Speaker 2: a fucking totem pole iff bitch right, who's like hesitant
Speaker 2: in his movements and making the match look super fake.
Speaker 2: This guy is going is wailing on the archi goal
Speaker 2: the clip wailing on him. Yep, NonStop drillium with knees.
Speaker 2: And I'm so happy that this early in the complete
Speaker 2: Hull cogin journey, we know that we can already establish
Speaker 2: that he's using the boot.
Speaker 7: And the leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, way from the very very very very beginning. I
Speaker 2: mean certainly the bear hug was his finisher in Southeastern
Speaker 2: if you hear Ron Fuller put it, this is just
Speaker 2: two months under that run. And if he's doing it
Speaker 2: in Memphis, he's got to be doing it down in
Speaker 2: Alabama as well.
Speaker 3: And the leg drop.
Speaker 2: He would also import this kind of clumsy leg drop
Speaker 2: to WWF in his early days as well. Sure, it's
Speaker 2: almost like it's it's hard to kind of explain, but
Speaker 2: you know, if your head's on canvas and he's gonna lift,
Speaker 2: he's gonna he should lift the leg that's on the
Speaker 2: inside of his body, not the outside.
Speaker 3: Right right, But instead he does this weird leg drop
Speaker 3: where he like goes diagonally on your on your torso right.
Speaker 3: It's very weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he lands the same way like like Melina
Speaker 2: would do the split on top of her opponent, you know, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, like to display that you can
Speaker 2: do a split. And he's getting height and the boot
Speaker 2: is there and the main streak is there, he's got
Speaker 2: the blue singlet like the powder blue singlet on still,
Speaker 2: So I think what I like about this too is
Speaker 2: I think what we're seeing is pretty much what he
Speaker 2: would look like wrestling in Alabama as well, and these
Speaker 2: matches that we can only picture in her mind's eye,
Speaker 2: that's pretty much what that seems to be what Jerry
Speaker 2: Lawler and company imported into the Mid South colisseum here
Speaker 2: on this this famous night. So yes, as far as
Speaker 2: I can tell, that's absolutely the match where Jerry Lawler
Speaker 2: presented Hulk as the mystery Man against the Stomper Wild
Speaker 2: and Stomper.
Speaker 3: I believe it.
Speaker 2: It is truly amazing, and it is not to be
Speaker 2: slept on in terms of historical significance. So we're getting
Speaker 2: a taste, we're getting better texture. We forward ahead here
Speaker 2: just to get an idea of how intertwined he was
Speaker 2: with Lawler in this first go around. Look At that
Speaker 2: image of them in the ring together as a tag team,
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler and Terry Boulder, who is now going with
Speaker 2: kind of like a black singlet and black knee pads.
Speaker 2: Just amazing from the very beginning, and though looks crazy.
Speaker 2: See that picture there above the news article of the
Speaker 2: entrance at the Mid South Colisseum. Lawler on the foreground,
Speaker 2: straps down and pointing behind him, just like he would
Speaker 2: point on his way down the aisle at the height
Speaker 2: of hul Camania. Can't believe some of these some of
Speaker 2: these images. There he is cranking a headlock in the ring.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: In addition to video, there's also stills that have survived.
Speaker 2: Here's a clipping from an ad that ran in the
Speaker 2: aforementioned Memphis Press Scimitar on May eighteenth of nineteen and
Speaker 2: seventy nine, Jarret Wrestling Company Percents Wrestling Monday. Of course,
Speaker 2: that was the big night for Mid South Coliseum matches.
Speaker 2: I always thought that might be the forebeart of Monday
Speaker 2: Night Raw then thinking of Monday as a huge night.
Speaker 2: I mean certainly Madison Square Garden shows were on Monday
Speaker 2: nights too. I believe those were the live MSG broadcasts
Speaker 2: in that short lived period when they're actually on HBO
Speaker 2: if you can believe it, WWW from Madison Square Guards
Speaker 2: Monday Night as well, eight pm main event cage match
Speaker 2: notice qualification. It's Jerry Lawler and the Hulk versus the
Speaker 2: Stomper and gorgeous George Junior. So they came back from
Speaker 2: that match where Lawler brings in Hulk is the mystery man.
Speaker 2: He beats the shit out of Stomper until George jumps
Speaker 2: in and Lawler made the save is mentioned, and they
Speaker 2: come back with a cage match in the rematch. So
Speaker 2: this is all happening within Hulk's first weeks in Memphis.
Speaker 2: He's tag teaming in a cage match with Jerry Lawler
Speaker 2: in the main event. So don't tell me that this
Speaker 2: guy had a long way to go and blub No.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to make money off this guy from the
Speaker 2: second he showed up from Cocoa Beach, Gas out of
Speaker 2: his fucking mind. Okay, people fucking knew. And if you
Speaker 2: were going too, If you're gonna throw a pity party
Speaker 2: when Vince pushes bodies in the eighties, you need to
Speaker 2: do some self reflection and realize just how quickly you
Speaker 2: guys bent over when you saw a body like that
Speaker 2: too in seventy nine and you had the exactly so
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. Okay, you were as much of
Speaker 2: a mark for bodies as Vince was, and the fact
Speaker 2: that he had the money to collect them all doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that you were locked into some higher minded way
Speaker 2: of doing pro wrestling. That's just that's total bullshit because
Speaker 2: immediately you tried to profit off bodies when people started
Speaker 2: taking it the extra mile from a chemical perspective. Same
Speaker 2: thing in Georgia, where they would, you know, well, wrestle
Speaker 2: and wrestl and fuck it, road Warriors, Nakita cole Off.
Speaker 2: Anybody who showed any kind of musculature like that got
Speaker 2: pushed to the moon immediately, So come off it, please,
Speaker 2: Tony Atlas.
Speaker 3: Give me a break.
Speaker 2: So the cage matches mentioned also in the card, they
Speaker 2: would turned Southern Tag team title matches Robert Fuller and
Speaker 2: build on detake on mister Fuji and Professor Tanaka more
Speaker 2: Van Tournament matches, Boss big them up for those the
Speaker 2: fucking Van Tournament Thunderbilt Patterson versus s put mc monroe, Junior,
Speaker 2: Tony Charles versus Wayne Ferris, the future honky Tonk Man.
Speaker 2: So again, Hulk immediately swimming in the same lane as
Speaker 2: the honky Tonk Man. And that's going to make some
Speaker 2: sense when not only does honky Tonk have a great
Speaker 2: position with WWF when Terry's there, but even in WCW,
Speaker 2: when Hulk first comes in in summer of ninety four.
Speaker 2: Honky Tonk Bischoff still decries it to this day that
Speaker 2: he had to hire that guy because he was part
Speaker 2: of Hulk's crew. You know, from the beginning, Boris Malenko,
Speaker 2: who's probably just coming off taping the Plan B videos,
Speaker 2: is wrestling Tommy Gilbert in the Mid South Coliseum and
Speaker 2: Larry Latham is facing Jerry Bryant Boss. This one from
Speaker 2: the Commercial Appeal, the main newspaper in Memphis. A little
Speaker 2: blurb here May twenty second, seventy nine. Hit the people
Speaker 2: with it. What happened?
Speaker 3: That's the one there there underneath the picture right right
Speaker 3: out of the picture of Lawler and hok are Lawler
Speaker 3: Hulk team for win. Jerry Lawler and the Hulk beat
Speaker 3: the Stomper in gorgeous George Junior last night before a
Speaker 3: crowd of forty three hundred and ninety two in the
Speaker 3: featured wrestling match at the Mid South Colisseum. Another matches
Speaker 3: Van Tournament Matches, fifth week of six weeks competition. Tommy
Speaker 3: Gilbert beat Larry cheat him or Larry cheat him. I
Speaker 3: mean I would imagine that he's uh that he you know,
Speaker 3: he's not someone that hulkgo bobbiy around because he's gonna
Speaker 3: be cheating them all. Tony Charles beat Wayne Ferris, Thunderbolt
Speaker 3: Patterson beat sput Nick Monroe Junior. In a Southern Tag
Speaker 3: title match between Mister Fuji and Tou Tanaka Toro Torou
Speaker 3: Tanaka retained championship. Retained championship on his qualification over Robert
Speaker 3: Fuller and Bill Dundee.
Speaker 2: Gotta love those athletic sock stripes at the top of
Speaker 2: Terry socks that he's pulling his boots. Yep, Wow, that's
Speaker 2: very seventies.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just yes, it is.
Speaker 2: It's just amazing to see him and there it is
Speaker 2: that he's just named in this article in the commercial
Speaker 2: appeal as the Hulk. No Terry Boulder, nothing, They're going
Speaker 2: the Hulk. And this is big because I think we
Speaker 2: established when you watch that vignette that Jerry Jarrett produced,
Speaker 2: like I think you would agree with me, like there
Speaker 2: is now no denying that they're just trying to rip
Speaker 2: off what Lufriggno's doing. Yes, TV, Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I mean the music, the presentation, it's so similar. And
Speaker 2: now they're just calling him the Hulk in the newspapers
Speaker 2: including here, I free fast forward a bit here May
Speaker 2: twenty second. This is from I believe the Commercial Appeal
Speaker 2: as well the Indiana Editions. There's going to be wrestling
Speaker 2: at the Louisville Gardens on Tuesday May twenty second, nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine, with an eight pm bell time. Jerry Jarrett
Speaker 2: presents professional wrestling.
Speaker 3: This time. You see their boss. It's the NWA insignia.
Speaker 2: So I guess when they ran certain I think when
Speaker 2: they ran the pockets that Jerry Jarrett used to promote
Speaker 2: before buying the whole territory. They call it the NWA.
Speaker 2: But when he promotes the Mid South Colisseum, having taken
Speaker 2: it from Nick Gulas, that's under the AWA's auspices. I
Speaker 2: guess man event notice qualification the Stomper and Gorgeous George
Speaker 2: Junior with manager Joe La Duke in the corner. Joela
Speaker 2: Duke is someone that Terry would also talk for years
Speaker 2: about coming into the Imperial Room and the other clubs
Speaker 2: that he would pay play in his rock and roll
Speaker 2: days against Jerry Lawler and the Hulk No Terry Boulder
Speaker 2: the Hulk Southern Tag title match, Robert Fuller and Bill
Speaker 2: do on Da versus Professor Tanaka and mister Fuji Handicap
Speaker 2: match Live Wrestling Bear. The Bear is coming to Louisville,
Speaker 2: Boss Larry go and he's taking on Danny Davis and
Speaker 2: Larry Cheatham. This would not be the same Danny Davis
Speaker 2: that we would know as the WWF referee.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, this would be.
Speaker 2: The Danny Davis who ran OVW in Louisville and kind
Speaker 2: of the wrestling mayor of Louisville in some ways. To
Speaker 2: just completely coin a phrase there, Tony Charles versus bott
Speaker 2: Nick Monroe Junior, as well as the Gladiator versus Tommy Gilbert.
Speaker 2: I believe the Gladiator was Dick Steinborn. Watch Championship Wrestling
Speaker 2: on wave in that market TV three Saturdays noon till
Speaker 2: one pm. Would that have been my pleasure?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Tickets on sale at the Garden box office. Moving ahead,
Speaker 2: take a look at these Matt found These. These are
Speaker 2: copies of checks that Jarrett Welch Enterprises wrote out to
Speaker 2: Terry fuck Boulder. Wow, four hundred ninety seven dollars and
Speaker 2: seventy five cents. What's the date here? May twenty six,
Speaker 2: seventy nine, So that's crazy. These apparently were someone's collection,
Speaker 2: and they look to be graded and framed, and sort
Speaker 2: of the fact that he the fact that he fucking
Speaker 2: signed a Terry Boulder. Oh my god, his name's written
Speaker 2: there was Terry Boulder.
Speaker 3: It's not his name.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, dude, treasurer, I believe Bob Wright
Speaker 2: is the signatory to said check for four hundred ninety
Speaker 2: seven dollars May twenty six, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: What is it? It's a Terry Boulder?
Speaker 10: What is it?
Speaker 2: Senterneath it says four hundred and ninety seven.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, but no no. Under the back end the
Speaker 3: signs said the back end, can you reading for deposit?
Speaker 3: Usually you write the name of the bank back there, right,
Speaker 3: So that yeah, well that says no, that's wrestling. That
Speaker 3: says Southern Southeastern wrestling for deposit. That's that says Southeastern
Speaker 3: wrestling for deposit.
Speaker 2: Interesting Southeastern. Yeah, Southeastern was the name of the the
Speaker 2: Alabama office, right.
Speaker 3: Interesting? What's going on here? Get a little uncomfortable, brother,
Speaker 3: the old nurse where I wrote to we're all writing, brother.
Speaker 2: But who knew that his checks from this run like survived.
Speaker 3: I can't believe that. I mean it's an incredible condition too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's in plastic.
Speaker 2: So I mean Terry Boulder Southeastern Wrestling for deposit only, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Positive deposit only. Wow? So what that probably the worst
Speaker 3: handwriting everybody? Oh yeah, it's like just the absolute worst.
Speaker 3: And it stamped First American Bank, Pensacola, Florida, So that's
Speaker 3: where he went to deposit and he was living in
Speaker 3: Pensacola at the time, if you remember. With that with
Speaker 3: that less so, I think that's interesting that, you know
Speaker 3: they would mention Southeastern Wrestling on the check. It was
Speaker 3: almost like Jarrett keeping track of like where I wonder
Speaker 3: why why would he? Why would But that's that's Hogan
Speaker 3: writing that. Why would Hogan write that? Now? Eh, maybe
Speaker 3: it is him signing the check because that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's him. That makes the same it's like the same
Speaker 3: handwriting just looks like Terry Boulder is is signed, but
Speaker 3: not underneath that looks like the same handwriting as the
Speaker 3: check itself.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, but that's just his name is not Terry Boulder?
Speaker 2: Like did he have a bank account? Is it Terry Boulder?
Speaker 3: Like? In what kind of shenanigans did that allow?
Speaker 10: For?
Speaker 3: Apparently he did. I mean, at least it's going to
Speaker 3: say pay to the order of the Hulk.
Speaker 2: Jarrett Welch Wrestling Company one ten the Landings, Hendersonville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason I know Hendersonville is because of
Speaker 2: the Jarretts. So there it is, and it says off
Speaker 2: to the left corner on the front of the check
Speaker 2: w Slash E five twenty four, that must maybe that's
Speaker 2: the event he's being paid for.
Speaker 3: Mmmm, yeah, wrestling event five twenty four. Yeah, maybe that's it.
Speaker 3: Just fascinating little things that have survived. Going ahead, here
Speaker 3: a print ad from May twenty ninth in Louisville. Jerry
Speaker 3: Jarret presents Professional Wrestling Louisville Gardens Tuesday, May twenty ninth,
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, eight PM. Main event, cage match Lawler
Speaker 3: and the Hulk versus the Stumprin Gorgeous George. I think
Speaker 3: we already we can cover all this return tig title
Speaker 3: match for the Southern Tag titles. It's Robert Fuller and
Speaker 3: Bilden d versus Tanaka and Fuji Special Challenge two out
Speaker 3: of three falls. It's Tommy Gilbert and Tommy Gilbert Junior
Speaker 3: versus Larry Latham and Wayne, Punk Rock Ferris, the future
Speaker 3: hulk Man, hunk Rock Ferris when he was a punk Man,
Speaker 3: not a Elvis Man. Tony Charles and Ken Wayne versus
Speaker 3: Ron Bass and Rick Oliver in the cart as well.
Speaker 3: So Hogan here making acquaintance with Ron Bass, the future
Speaker 3: Foil to Brutus, Beefcake, and the WWF the whole crew man.
Speaker 3: They all travel together, whole fucking crew and Hulk sets up.
Speaker 3: He calls in everybody who was helpful to him along
Speaker 3: the way in WWF. And that's another rewarding part of
Speaker 3: marching through his territorial days because we can start to
Speaker 3: pick out the people that he's going to make room
Speaker 3: for later when he's got full control over who's hired.
Speaker 3: Basically at WWF watch Champions to Wrestling on Wave once
Speaker 3: again is mentioned. Tickets back then are five dollars ringside,
Speaker 3: four fifty reserved and four dollars general admission, two dollars
Speaker 3: for children under five. Promoter, by the way, reserves the
Speaker 3: right to make necessary changes in the scheduled matches. Don't
Speaker 3: you forget that it's right? So we go ahead to
Speaker 3: make Wednesday, May thirtieth of that year at the coliseum.
Speaker 3: Here this is in Evansville, Indiana, which was a territory
Speaker 3: that Jerry had opened up before getting full control of Memphis.
Speaker 3: He was sort of allowed by Nick Gulas and Company
Speaker 3: and Roy Welch to go out there and prospect these
Speaker 3: new territories and did quite well. Realized he could promote
Speaker 3: on his own, and thus history was set in motion.
Speaker 3: On this card, the Southern Heavyweight title match, we'll see
Speaker 3: the Hulk with Jerry Lawler in his corner taking on
Speaker 3: the Stomper with Gorgeous George Junior Boss the Hulk going
Speaker 3: for the championship here. That's crazy too.
Speaker 2: Special six man tag Robert Fuller, Building d and Jerry
Speaker 2: Lawler versus Professor tanaka mister Fuji in Gorgeous George Junior.
Speaker 2: Also on the card, Punk Rock, Wayne Ferris versus Tony
Speaker 2: Charles Ron Bass versus The Grappler and Larry Lathan versus
Speaker 2: Rick Oliver Ringside. Five bucks general admission for children under
Speaker 2: ten three dollars. Let's see what it says tickets sold?
Speaker 2: What does it say there? Can you read that fine print?
Speaker 2: Ticket sold by five? Tickets sold from from five pm
Speaker 2: on Wednesday and through match time at the Coliseum box
Speaker 2: office tick and information reservation call four two two one
Speaker 2: six five after five pm on Wednesday only.
Speaker 3: AH watch wrestling on wtv W Channel seven Saturday, June second,
Speaker 3: three to four pm only on June second.
Speaker 2: So fun buying tickets in the territorial dolls, like going
Speaker 2: to all these outlets in town and my, exactly my, did.
Speaker 3: You get the tickets?
Speaker 10: MA?
Speaker 6: Shut up?
Speaker 3: MA to get the fucking tickets?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe if you didn't want it as a shut up,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't scream my like that. I mean, we had
Speaker 2: to pump the brakes on this one. This exists in
Speaker 2: Wrestling Data, which has all the wrestling records, you know,
Speaker 2: career records. Apparently in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on June sixteenth, nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine, Hull Cogan wrestles Terry Gordy. Now, that to
Speaker 2: me is a whole other level of what the fire?
Speaker 3: I can't I can't handle that.
Speaker 2: Did he just make a little because there's cocoa wear
Speaker 2: on the card? Michael Hayes is on the card. Did
Speaker 2: he make a little side trip to Chattanooga, which I'm
Speaker 2: not even sure. Chatton was hardo of the circuit of
Speaker 2: the Jarrett circuit Whends. I mean the two terries absolutely,
Speaker 2: tale of two a tale of two terries right there.
Speaker 2: I mean Terry Gordy and Hullko and wrestling in seventy
Speaker 2: nine is just a reality that I wasn't prepared to
Speaker 2: deal with. Speaking of which I mean, it's it's a
Speaker 2: new territory, boss. And when we come to a new
Speaker 2: territory and the complete Hull Cogan or really anything in
Speaker 2: the history of the lapsed fan, we have to scour
Speaker 2: the local pay for a piece that every city can't
Speaker 2: resist assigning a sportswriter to or a lifestyle writer or
Speaker 2: a human interest writer. You know what It's like, why
Speaker 2: do these people go to wrestling?
Speaker 3: Can you?
Speaker 2: Why don't you go to the Mid South Colosseum and
Speaker 2: talk to these people and ask them, you know, what
Speaker 2: are they doing?
Speaker 3: Please? And we needn't understand what the fuck is going
Speaker 3: on here with these people, because I don't get it,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to save them from themselves. But here
Speaker 3: they are. They fucking just do this all the time.
Speaker 3: They waste their own fucking money. Well, they're in the crosshairs.
Speaker 3: And here's the Memphis version. This is from June seventeenth,
Speaker 3: of nineteen seventy nine and the Memphis commercial appeal headline,
Speaker 3: wonderful world of Wrestling has its fans. The blood on
Speaker 3: Jerry Leler's face splattered across the media table and onto
Speaker 3: the floor. Jimmy Golden mocked the fallen wrestler from Memphis,
Speaker 3: and fifty three hundred fans at the Mid South colisseum
Speaker 3: let loose with a tidal wave of emotion that rose
Speaker 3: to a primal crescendo. One man sitting at the table
Speaker 3: is asked. One man is sitting at the table asked,
Speaker 3: is that real blood? Well? He was told it could
Speaker 3: be real blood, or it might be a blood pill
Speaker 3: or a capsule. It might be red dye, might be anything,
Speaker 3: might be barbecue sauce. I don't know what they ate beforehand.
Speaker 3: It could be might be a bottle of catchup. But
Speaker 3: it didn't make any difference in these how to this
Speaker 3: howling crowd because it looked like blood. I can't it.
Speaker 3: So they're basically determining that it is not blood, but
Speaker 3: there it is something that looks like blood.
Speaker 2: These guys go through all the trouble of actually slicing
Speaker 2: their foreheads open with surreptitiously hidden razor blades so that
Speaker 2: it's it's bonafide blood for the people and they can't
Speaker 2: question it only for the newspaper just wantonly speculate that
Speaker 2: the blood capsule and can't possibly be real blood. Why
Speaker 2: bother blading if like everyone's going to assume it's fake blood?
Speaker 3: I know exactly. Umm, that was good enough. Nobody seemed
Speaker 3: to want to stop and take time for a lab test.
Speaker 3: What they wanted was for Golden to get what was
Speaker 3: coming to him, and thanks to the wonderful world of
Speaker 3: professional wrestling, he would get it. But then something happened
Speaker 3: that brought wrestling announcer Lance Russell, director of telecommunications for
Speaker 3: Jarrett and Welch Wrestling Wrestling Company, and the wrestlers a
Speaker 3: little closer to the genuine article than they desired. After
Speaker 3: the match, about one hundred and fifty fanatics surrounded the ring,
Speaker 3: a few of them pounding their palms against the canvas.
Speaker 3: Others gestured toward Golden with their middle fingers and suggested
Speaker 3: that his heritage was not of the finest stock. Suddenly,
Speaker 3: the suddenly, the play violence was over. Let's fucking go,
Speaker 3: the play violence was over. Russell yielded security officials get
Speaker 3: them back over here a security the security hair and
Speaker 3: Russell shook his head. I don't understand. He yells for
Speaker 3: them to fucking get and he shakes his head.
Speaker 2: I can see that. I can see it's Russell doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no business like show business, they say, And
Speaker 3: the wrestling business is getting better all the time. Some
Speaker 3: promoters claim it is the biggest spectator sport in the country.
Speaker 3: But why yes, yeah, Now, finally the reporter reveals what
Speaker 3: he's doing. Why do people spend their hard earned money
Speaker 3: on something that is generally generally regarded to be show
Speaker 3: business rather than sport? Okay, He's like, okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna again. Why do people spend their hard earned money
Speaker 3: on something that is generally regarded to be show business
Speaker 3: rather than sport? Then why do people go to the movie?
Speaker 3: Why do people spend their harder money on show business?
Speaker 3: Why do the people spend their harder money on anything
Speaker 3: that isn't sport? Exactly? Okay, exactly what is the thrill
Speaker 3: of seeing an act carried out? They could not get
Speaker 3: They could not get past it, even in Memphis, where
Speaker 3: it was like died in the wool. Highest TV ratings
Speaker 3: in the market every weekend, the market you would think
Speaker 3: has the best shot at like seeing you know, something
Speaker 3: more in wrestling than just these like existential questions.
Speaker 2: They can't get over it. At the commercial appeal.
Speaker 3: What is the thrill of seeing an act carried out
Speaker 3: that purports gotta be real blood and guts. Let's go,
Speaker 3: Let's go. The answers lie in the psyche of the fans.
Speaker 3: In many cases, the fans themselves aren't sure why they
Speaker 3: do it, but give credit to Russell and the wrestling
Speaker 3: promoters for capitalizing on modern man's and women's aggression. The
Speaker 3: bottom line, and some fans will admit it and some won't,
Speaker 3: is that professional wrestling is selling violence. You may not
Speaker 3: be able to haul off and hit your boss or
Speaker 3: your spouse, there are your business associates.
Speaker 2: That's a lot earlier than I would expect to hear
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, me too, I thought that was an
Speaker 2: attitude era innovation. But you can yell for Lawler to
Speaker 2: beat Golden with his chain. In fact, that's what they
Speaker 2: want you to do. There's been much loose talk about
Speaker 2: violence being as American as apple pie in a societal sense.
Speaker 2: Perhaps it's true violence is an outlet for many people,
Speaker 2: but for the majority of people, violence isn't out of
Speaker 2: the ordinary occurrence. Most of the time, we have to
Speaker 2: suppress violent urges. Not so at the coliseum on Monday nights. Vicariously,
Speaker 2: wrestling fans can live through Lawler and the Hulk as
Speaker 2: they tear into the Mongolian stomper.
Speaker 3: I like violence. A fan at the Colosseum who could
Speaker 3: identify herself only as Sam Okay, this person exists. I'm
Speaker 3: in the karate in boxing. How much of it is fake?
Speaker 3: Ninety nine three quarter percent. But there's a woman who
Speaker 3: sits right here next to me who thinks it's a
Speaker 3: real wrestlings. Like everything else, there's gimmicks to get the
Speaker 3: fans in. I know it's fake, but I like it.
Speaker 3: She said. She hated Lawler and I hope he loses
Speaker 3: leaves Town. Wrestling fan Liz Adams said, it's the excitement.
Speaker 3: People want to see other people get beat up. Things
Speaker 3: happen here that they wouldn't do it home, can't do it,
Speaker 3: can't do it home. If that's their frustrations out about
Speaker 3: one third of people here except that it's entertainment. She's
Speaker 3: glad she's done the time to measure it. She's taking
Speaker 3: the time I should sit and measure it. Another third,
Speaker 3: Now it's not real.
Speaker 6: Awesome.
Speaker 3: This is so two thirds except that it's entertainment. Are
Speaker 3: you telling me? Yeah? Exactly? What's the difference between accepting
Speaker 3: its entertainment and knowing it's not real? No, it's not real?
Speaker 3: Oh I guess, I guess. She answers that. Actually, but
Speaker 3: don't want to believe it. Wait? So another third, No,
Speaker 3: it's not real, but don't want to believe it, Oh,
Speaker 3: my god, is not isn't not believing it thinking it's fake? Oh?
Speaker 3: She means not believing thinking it's fake? Okay, great, but
Speaker 3: they know? But but how can you know if something
Speaker 3: is not real? But then don't want to believe that
Speaker 3: it's not real? Sure this isn't a Scott Steiner quote.
Speaker 3: Another third are into it? Well, it sounds like three
Speaker 3: thirds are into.
Speaker 2: It because you were just saying the ones who know
Speaker 2: it's not real but don't want to believe it. That
Speaker 2: would mean they're into it.
Speaker 3: If you tell oh, I see, if you tell them
Speaker 3: it's not real, they get mad. Some ringside fans suggested
Speaker 3: that those who believe wholeheartedly and pro wrestling began following
Speaker 3: it as youngsters. They got hooked on it and have
Speaker 3: never let go. Many old time wrestling fans get a
Speaker 3: charge out of seeing their favorite stars, but a growing
Speaker 3: percentage are young fans. They come out, they come, they
Speaker 3: come in T shirts that have the names of rock
Speaker 3: groups and singers, Bad Company, Whalen, not Mercy and Van Halen. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's more entertained. It's more entertainment than sports.
Speaker 3: This is definitely what all this from is Jerry Jerrett, Yes,
Speaker 3: said Huxley, King of Memphis. Ninety percent of the people
Speaker 3: root for the good guys, but I ch here for
Speaker 3: the bad guys. What's it all about? Aggression? You let
Speaker 3: go of your inhibitions. You can come out here and
Speaker 3: watch somebody get their head dusted off. It's a show.
Speaker 3: It's not like watching a football game where you don't
Speaker 3: know who's going to win. But it doesn't take away
Speaker 3: from me. But you don't know who's gonna win either.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. You don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 3: Someone to do someone one does, but you don't. But
Speaker 3: it doesn't take away from the enjoyment. People don't think
Speaker 3: about it. For a lot of them. They know it's staged,
Speaker 3: but they don't want to believe it. This is one
Speaker 3: of the greatest This is this is one of the
Speaker 3: greatest articles. They just getting these people's faces and just ye,
Speaker 3: don't take no for an answer, to make them like
Speaker 3: this is tremendous. This is absolutely beautiful. Austin Cunningham is
Speaker 3: a security guard at Channel five w mc TV for
Speaker 3: the wrestling matches on Saturday mornings. He has seen many
Speaker 3: bizarre many a bizarre sight in eight years. Hey, your
Speaker 3: biggest problem we haven't. He's the girls trying to go
Speaker 3: down and go go ahead, go ahead to say what
Speaker 3: you're gonna say. The girl's trying to go down on
Speaker 3: the wrestlers in the dressing room. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 2: I know if you read that really quickly, it says
Speaker 2: the biggest problem we have is the girls trying to
Speaker 2: go down in the wrestlers in the dressing.
Speaker 3: Down the wrestlers in the dressing room, go down into
Speaker 3: the wrestler's dressing rooms. They want, they would if we
Speaker 3: let them. I wonder why they want to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think they want to go down on the wrestlers.
Speaker 3: Maybe suck a cock, can you print that that they
Speaker 3: want to suck cocks.
Speaker 2: It's definitely the era where you know your your wander
Speaker 2: around backstage and you take a corner and underneath the
Speaker 2: bleachers like Tracy Smothers is getting.
Speaker 3: Sucked off or something. Oh, get out of here, I'm
Speaker 3: getting blown. Well, I mean they get out of here.
Speaker 3: Makes it seem like you want to keep it secret.
Speaker 3: Screaming I'm getting blown. Copy your lung about the fucking cop.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's how he sounded. I don't know. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's like, sir, sir, are you coming or did you
Speaker 3: just spill your lunch all over the ground like you're
Speaker 3: using the same noise. Ah, then call her darling, push
Speaker 3: her hair behind her ear, and send her on her way.
Speaker 3: Cuttingham has seen two or three heart attacks during matches.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 2: I thought they weren't even tagging yet.
Speaker 3: I thought it was all fake. What's going on here?
Speaker 3: Rest in peace for the first holtstir in heaven.
Speaker 2: That kid uh, that kid Kirk in the in the
Speaker 2: Alabama papers who died of a seizure at sixteen at
Speaker 2: a Terry lam.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, during matches and helps save the life
Speaker 3: of one stricken woman and he once saw a wrestler
Speaker 3: knock a woman off the front and bench after she
Speaker 3: spin on him. I enjoyed it, even if I know
Speaker 3: it's all ok. The security guard can't even help himself.
Speaker 3: I enjoy it even if I know it's not all real.
Speaker 3: But we but see that guy in the cap. You
Speaker 3: know he believes it's real and we want to whoop you.
Speaker 3: If you say it's not not my back of great,
Speaker 3: but you know, I swear it goes this guy in
Speaker 3: the cap. Everyone knows to not fuck with that guy
Speaker 3: in the cap. I tell you it's one guy. You
Speaker 3: don't want to say nothing's fake, that guy in the cap,
Speaker 3: because he will whoop you. I've seen him do it
Speaker 3: a couple of times. He'll whoop you and you're gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, feel it next four weekends, Travan, you feel
Speaker 3: that whooping. It's fucking aussy cunning him of this guy
Speaker 3: has it coming? Oh god, assy Uh. Fans want to well.
Speaker 3: Fans wait as long as four months on a waiting
Speaker 3: list to get in to see the Saturday morning matches.
Speaker 3: He said, you know, sometimes the fans are funnier than
Speaker 3: the wrestlers. I think often the fans are funnier than
Speaker 3: the rest the way. As the matches start, a young
Speaker 3: man in a black leather jacket up up front yells,
Speaker 3: break is like torture room. Then he smiles another yells.
Speaker 6: You're a freak with no physique.
Speaker 3: At golden steep cut. That's right. The wrestlers carry out
Speaker 3: the show with enthusiasm. In the case of the Mongolian Stomper,
Speaker 3: he hobbles all the way back to the dressing room
Speaker 3: clutching an injured rib after a match, and handed a
Speaker 3: few other ribs on the way back with the fans.
Speaker 3: But one Japanese wrestler smiles for a moment as he
Speaker 3: stands in the hallway before a match. Spare rib, boy,
Speaker 3: boy boy, you're gonna see some viciousness today. He said
Speaker 3: it to a guard. He's gotta be my boy, You're
Speaker 3: gonna see the vegetaes today. Ah from who again? You're what?
Speaker 3: From my angle? His shoulder is tattooed Japan brother? What Japanese?
Speaker 3: What do you well from Japan?
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 3: From Japan? I talked about this tattoo? Dude, Why you
Speaker 3: sing atatoo from jama From Japan? He says, you're Japan.
Speaker 3: I thought your name is mister Fuji brother in Japan, Dude,
Speaker 3: mister Japan or mister Fuji.
Speaker 10: Brother.
Speaker 3: You couldn't sign dude, I don't know where you are from. Brother.
Speaker 3: I want you from Fuji feed from Japan, mister Fiji.
Speaker 3: It's not being more confused. The two Japanese wrestlers, Professor
Speaker 3: Tanaka and mister Fuji, seem to enjoy riling up the
Speaker 3: crowd at the coliseum. The fans arrive early and talk
Speaker 3: about the upcoming matches. David Abernathy and Bob Westover of
Speaker 3: Memphis said they show up every time there's a Colisseum
Speaker 3: wrestling show. It's show business, Vostover said. And most of
Speaker 3: the people here lie, you know, know they put it up.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, all right, that's a quote. Most of the
Speaker 3: people here know they've put it up, put it up,
Speaker 3: but some are too thick headed to be believed to
Speaker 3: believe it. We'll wait a minute. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people get worked up trying to tell the referee
Speaker 3: that someone who's coming up behind him what what? And
Speaker 3: so it begins right. Sometimes, but not as often as
Speaker 3: one might suspect, a fan becomes so involved that he
Speaker 3: or she throws something in the ring, and there are
Speaker 3: many people who try to get into the ring, Liz
Speaker 3: Adams said, although one time a fancy something at a
Speaker 3: wrestler and it went out over the ring and hit
Speaker 3: my boyfriend. Sometimes people say this is getting on, this
Speaker 3: is going on, and I'm gonna go and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do something. People get involved. Literally. Sharon and Tommy Davis
Speaker 3: of be Hollia by Hollia by Holly, Mississippi, had ringside
Speaker 3: seats to the waller and go loser leave towns, loser
Speaker 3: leaves town match. A lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 3: older people and younger kids believe in wrestling. Tommy said,
Speaker 3: a lot don't believe it too, but they come to
Speaker 3: see what's going on. Ready, we saw the Hulk on television.
Speaker 3: Wanted to come see if he was as big because
Speaker 3: he looks something came. Some come because it's a big
Speaker 3: grudge match. I come here and to get to get
Speaker 3: out of the house and off the streets. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: Tommy Davis, what the fuck man? What do you do? Aha?
Speaker 3: Come here to get out of the house and off
Speaker 3: the streets. What a strange thing to say, what a
Speaker 3: far thing to say.
Speaker 2: I do love the idea that Hulk makes such an
Speaker 2: impact early in Memphis that people buy tickets just to
Speaker 2: see if he's as big as they say is that's
Speaker 2: an interesting part of his appeal. I never thought about it, obviously,
Speaker 2: the fact he's huge is a thing. But the idea
Speaker 2: that this might be the biggest guy you've ever seen
Speaker 2: in your life, like in your market of the world,
Speaker 2: you know, yes, that you could ever see in person. Ever,
Speaker 2: I think that's a major major draw. David said he
Speaker 2: had been to the Bad Company concert a few days
Speaker 2: before the wrestling match. He said he didn't I think
Speaker 2: the concert crowd and the wrestling crowd were that terribly different.
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of bloody matches here here which
Speaker 2: were not chicken blood pills, he said, Okay, God, they
Speaker 2: weren't chicken blood pills. Lily Baker, seventy three, has been
Speaker 2: going to wrestling matches since they were held outdoors on
Speaker 2: Main Street. She stayed with the matches when they moved
Speaker 2: to a building on Jefferson and then to Ellis Auditorium.
Speaker 3: And we need some good referees, Lily, she said, these
Speaker 3: matches are getting too dirty. No, no, no, it isn't.
Speaker 3: Faith fucking girl it's Jeff that they used to just wrestle,
Speaker 3: but it ain't no sport now. I wish they'd just
Speaker 3: let it be right. I don't like to see nobody
Speaker 3: get hurt. During the matches. Baker shouted at gorgeous George
Speaker 3: Junior and quote bad guy unquote wrestlers when they acted up.
Speaker 3: She wore a cap that read Jerry Lawler the King.
Speaker 3: After the mattress, he approached a promoter of the event
Speaker 3: to complain about the refereeing. Glenn Ham watched his first
Speaker 3: wrestling match and said he considered it pretty much entertainment.
Speaker 3: He can just about figure what's gonna happen. Pretty much entertainment.
Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound like something would flash across the screen
Speaker 2: after a sit down?
Speaker 3: Oh, this what you just saw was pretty much entertainment or.
Speaker 2: Like it's like a like a production house, you know,
Speaker 2: pretty much entertainment.
Speaker 3: Oh, he can just about figure out what's gonna happen. Announced.
Speaker 3: That's that's such a fucking like. Oh yeah, I knew
Speaker 3: that was gonna happen. You can tell right now the
Speaker 3: whole damn thing. Oh my god, Like, look, look I
Speaker 3: know that they're gonna do this. They're gonna do. Now,
Speaker 3: let me guess the bad guy is gonna come in
Speaker 3: the ring and look, there's no way. Look, you're not
Speaker 3: gonna win. This is when the referee gets I know,
Speaker 3: the old god fake look I've seen Look have you
Speaker 3: seen one match? Just seeing them all? A bunch of
Speaker 3: fucking pussy working here. Announcer Russell has been around the
Speaker 3: wrestling business for almost twenty seven years. He has seen
Speaker 3: the fans cry when a wrestler is hurt, as he said,
Speaker 3: and so if they're part of the family. Wrestling is
Speaker 3: an emotional thing as opposed to football or basketball. It's
Speaker 3: the good guy, bad guy thing. What the fuck is
Speaker 3: he talking about? Football and basketball are definitely emotional. It's
Speaker 3: a good guy, bad guy thing. What the people do
Speaker 3: is leave their inhibitions at home. They really associate with
Speaker 3: the wrestlers on a personal level. Is violence one of
Speaker 3: wrestling's main selling points. The fans have more proximity to
Speaker 3: the ring than another sports, Russell said, of course, the
Speaker 3: people can't see the incredible violence of football. They can't
Speaker 3: see the face and identify with it. I guess it
Speaker 3: is part of the appeal. People don't go to see
Speaker 3: cars go around and around the track of Indy. They
Speaker 3: want to see an accident in wrestling. They're assured of
Speaker 3: seeing the accident. That's part of the appeal. It's the
Speaker 3: vicarious thrill of a disaster. The fans love the contest
Speaker 3: of the good and bad. They supply that part of it,
Speaker 3: and a lot of them figure out that figure that
Speaker 3: for the money. It's as good entertainment as you can get.
Speaker 3: A lot of people come down, so as aloof observers,
Speaker 3: and before the evening is over, they're yelling break his arm.
Speaker 3: My enjoyment is different from that of the average fan.
Speaker 3: I like to see good, scientific wrestling, and I'm not
Speaker 3: into the chair and chain bit. But what the hell
Speaker 3: if that's their bag, it's okay. Fans comments during the
Speaker 3: matches range from the typical exclamations to the referra to
Speaker 3: the referees, to the cryptic isn't he sweet? And oh,
Speaker 3: this must be talent, not somebody banged the gong on
Speaker 3: that one. Get the clown out of the ram. The
Speaker 3: crowd's angriest response came during the Golden Lawler match, when
Speaker 3: Golden taunted them while hurting Lawler, but after Lawler got
Speaker 3: up and produced a chain, the crowd was on its
Speaker 3: feet and reacting as one. Whenever Lawler landed a punch,
Speaker 3: there was a deep low ooh that ran through the crowd.
Speaker 3: Lawler one, but he's still got a whipping king, a
Speaker 3: bad guy. Ruter said. We need better, we need better refs.
Speaker 3: One woman said, as the crowd filed out after Lawler
Speaker 3: beat Golden. They're blind and don't say anything. It's the
Speaker 3: same old stuff every week. It's too dirty, unbelievable. Oh,
Speaker 3: that is one of the fucking greatest ever.
Speaker 2: That's the world that Terry Boulders walking into down in Memphis.
Speaker 2: That's the constitute of the fans. That's how they look
Speaker 2: at it, how they think about it. And we need uh,
Speaker 2: we need better refs. I mean, I don't know why
Speaker 2: no one ever heeds that call, but she's exactly, It's
Speaker 2: very true.
Speaker 1: He's a La Fan Wrestling podcast Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast
Speaker 1: with Jack and Carno and jpro So Boss.
Speaker 2: I think it's time. I think it's time for the
Speaker 2: angle to be shot that will lead to a more
Speaker 2: permanent appearance of Terry Boulder down in Memphis and set
Speaker 2: the groundwork for the vignette that we've already watched and
Speaker 2: kind of play that whole thing up. So we got
Speaker 2: a little tantalized taste of the Hulk in Memphis. But
Speaker 2: as we talked about in the Alabama series, that's just
Speaker 2: about two or three appearances in May, and then it
Speaker 2: goes back to Alabama where he has more matches with
Speaker 2: the likes of the Fullers, and of course the Harley
Speaker 2: Race match is coming up as well, and Austin Idol
Speaker 2: is starting to get into the mix and even being
Speaker 2: mentioned as you heard there from Gorgeous George Junior. Still
Speaker 2: Austin Idl on Memphis Television. So the talent exchange dynamic
Speaker 2: very clear.
Speaker 3: We move ahead.
Speaker 2: This is July seventh, nineteen seventy nine, according to his
Speaker 2: best we can tell Memphis Television and Eddie Boulder, the
Speaker 2: future Buddhist the Barber Beefcake is now on television as
Speaker 2: a professional wrestler and he's facing the same guy who
Speaker 2: is going to assault him with a spur in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight in WWF, Oh My God and cause the
Speaker 2: Switcheroo where Ultimate Warrior shows up and beats Honky Tonk
Speaker 2: Man at summerslamin at eighty eight, remember the angle, so
Speaker 2: add this to the list, the growing list of precursors
Speaker 2: that we're going to encounter and Hultkogn's early these days
Speaker 2: in the business. Yes, time going to run this one
Speaker 2: for the first time. This is the angle where outlaw
Speaker 2: Ron Bass attacks Eddie Boulder on Memphis Television Boy on
Speaker 2: the WMC Channel five set, and the announcers begin talking
Speaker 2: about and Eddie Boulders are about to see. He begins
Speaker 2: talking about who is going to come to the rescue
Speaker 2: for him and who will avenge him? So let's hit
Speaker 2: play in three two one.
Speaker 6: Play and Dallas Montgomery starts inauspiciously. Dave's bass has jumped
Speaker 6: Boulder right away?
Speaker 3: Is that right? There is Eddie Boulder? Look? How long
Speaker 3: is blonde hairy? Oh my god, I can't handle it.
Speaker 2: When a black singlet just like Terry Wood Black and Black.
Speaker 6: Bootstgommery out of the ring on his back as.
Speaker 3: Bass As is pummeling him in.
Speaker 6: The head, really busted open.
Speaker 3: Ron Bass busting open brutus Beefcake. It's nineteen eighty eight over.
Speaker 6: Again the introductions. The referee said let's do it, and
Speaker 6: Bowler turned around. He slammed, got slammed from behind with
Speaker 6: Ron Bass Bass.
Speaker 3: Studio wrestling. I know you because I don't even have
Speaker 3: a ring skirt. Just see under the under.
Speaker 6: The ring a chance. He didn't even get started before bath.
Speaker 3: Eddie Boulder takes the slam.
Speaker 6: Wow ah, Eddie a miss? Come on he.
Speaker 2: Lance has started called the sting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, trying to come in the bell did ring day.
Speaker 3: Steve Brown and they called a Lance Russell after turn around.
Speaker 6: Get up, it's.
Speaker 2: Dallas Montgomery, Ron Dass versus. I think it's Pete Austin.
Speaker 2: That's Dandy Davis right there.
Speaker 6: In the the hard hat and the Vietnam fatigues. Eddie
Speaker 6: Boulder never had a.
Speaker 2: Chance older just getting cumbled on his back, busted open,
Speaker 2: getting stomped and punched and beat his ship, murdering.
Speaker 3: Murdering him.
Speaker 2: Lance Russell's sun stick, stop this thing.
Speaker 6: Et Austin, Ron Bass just taking.
Speaker 2: That's Pete Austin and the Blue Trucks never.
Speaker 6: Even got started in there. They jumped him beforehand. I
Speaker 6: don't know why Jerry didn't go ahead and just stop
Speaker 6: the thing. He sends Dallas Montgomery back out and he's
Speaker 6: just continuing to let this go on and on. As
Speaker 6: as Ron Bass and Pete Austin are just hammering Eddie
Speaker 6: Boulder blood everywhere and continuing to do so. Want a
Speaker 6: mess Fast continuing, Yeah, I was he gonna wrestle it.
Speaker 6: Never even got a chance to start wrestling is Fast
Speaker 6: jumped him from behind, busted him wide open. Jerry, He's true.
Speaker 6: Why don't you stop the thing?
Speaker 3: What's going on for almost two and a half on
Speaker 3: the bloody defeated? He pulls him off the heel.
Speaker 6: Why don't you stop it?
Speaker 3: That's enough one, Hey, come on, how much indignation from
Speaker 3: the fans on hand in the studio they're just kinda
Speaker 3: set out their hands. Yeah, I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of sympathy venerally care any Boulder's partner getting a ship
Speaker 3: beat out of him.
Speaker 2: This Dallas Montomray character, Come on, hey, that might be
Speaker 2: the guy under the hood. Is the outlaw that Terry
Speaker 2: Bear hugged in Alabama.
Speaker 6: First time championship wrestling for Boulder is the.
Speaker 2: Lands Russell making it clear this is the first time
Speaker 2: that any Boulder was on the television show.
Speaker 6: Montgomery knocked out of the ring.
Speaker 3: If you're wondering what the bell sounded like in the seventies,
Speaker 3: oh my god, Quang Lang.
Speaker 6: Look at body beautiful.
Speaker 3: I want you to look at body beautiful. Man made
Speaker 3: a mistake.
Speaker 6: He pushed a Southern have a wit tad.
Speaker 13: You're out there, that Russell, you setting up playing the price.
Speaker 6: I want you to look at it, Russell, I know, Okay,
Speaker 6: get him out.
Speaker 3: Alan's Russell taking a seat. That's to Dave Brown or
Speaker 3: ten Boulder. So playing it very serious, you know, very
Speaker 3: kind of doobm and gloom.
Speaker 2: And the next week, July fourteenth, nineteen seventy nine, Independence
Speaker 2: Day vibes in the air, just summertime, and sit home
Speaker 2: watching their Memphis Wrestling with some leftovers in the fridge.
Speaker 2: Potato salad, no question, chicken salad. Potato salad, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: definitely chicken salad. And Jerry Jarrett's fridge. We know that, yes,
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder with the long blowing locks. Can we just
Speaker 2: take a second, like, we know what Beefcake looked like,
Speaker 2: we know what looks like? What are you singing here?
Speaker 2: What does ed Boulder look like? I mean, just looking
Speaker 2: at it, I just kept the head. He I mean,
Speaker 2: he doesn't even look anything like him. He looks nothing
Speaker 2: like Bruti speak Kake. He looks like I mean he
Speaker 2: kind of was like magnum Ta a little bit, but
Speaker 2: with straight hair. He's got like that dark part up
Speaker 2: the middle of his head and the rock eide locks
Speaker 2: flowing on both sides of the shoulder.
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of feathered out hair. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2: He's got a mustache too, something of a handlebar mustache even.
Speaker 2: And the idea, as we've talked about, you know, they
Speaker 2: decided in Koco Beach we brothers together as brothers in
Speaker 2: the business that they couldn't be taken advantage of in
Speaker 2: the same way.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And so we're starting to see this is Bolder Brother's
Speaker 2: concept come true. Fruition Here. This is the July fourteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine Memphis television show, the week after we
Speaker 2: saw Ron Bass and Pete Austin absolutely yea stomp poor
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder, bloody and helpless in his debut match. And
Speaker 2: this is where Eddie Boulder steps to the set, steps
Speaker 2: to Lance Russell and the microphone and lets us know
Speaker 2: that backup is on the way. Three two one play.
Speaker 6: Eddie is in here with us today. Eddie, we want
Speaker 6: to welcome you to the entire area. Can't thank you.
Speaker 6: Thrank you very much, saying that it really is a
Speaker 6: pleasure to hear you here. I have you here. I
Speaker 6: know that what happened on your initial appearance here was
Speaker 6: something that is not you don't necessarily always want to
Speaker 6: remember it, but we had some take of it because
Speaker 6: it was It was really a very embarrassing situation for
Speaker 6: us on your first visit here. And if you stand
Speaker 6: with usaid he would like to roll the tape right
Speaker 6: now and take a look and see and let the
Speaker 6: folks in the team and Gummery and Boulder and coming
Speaker 6: out the opposite.
Speaker 14: Beautiful.
Speaker 16: Why aren't you boys come off Danny beautiful?
Speaker 6: But you get him on up at her like, what
Speaker 6: what's the man?
Speaker 2: Good Russell?
Speaker 6: Can't you get them in the post force?
Speaker 3: Just one look at the.
Speaker 6: Big He came in here to wrestle. My calls. So
Speaker 6: if you can get in there and beat would you
Speaker 6: go on in the ring? Come on rone him.
Speaker 8: On the beautiful boy, Hey, come on, let's go Look
Speaker 8: at Terry.
Speaker 3: Look at a Boulder.
Speaker 6: This is I can't try to put down Eddie Boulder.
Speaker 2: They're going.
Speaker 6: Our championship wrestling with young Dallas Montgomery as his partner.
Speaker 6: I have no envy for that team going.
Speaker 2: He's got the locks flowing in the middle part off
Speaker 2: and he's got like that the bangs are touching his eyebrows.
Speaker 10: We can get the introduction almost time women match Part four,
Speaker 10: Park Flor.
Speaker 3: Partner and w Ricky Ricky Ricky Morton.
Speaker 10: Against him and a total weight of five hundred seventy.
Speaker 3: Five says so much like campas.
Speaker 10: Ron Bass were there for Boston, Massachusetts, Pete Austin, they
Speaker 10: have Danny Davis, their manager over there.
Speaker 6: Pete Austin from Boston Austin is picking it and Eddie
Speaker 6: Bowlder in there. He is using some of that psychron
Speaker 6: maass saying he's going, and Bass jumps in from behind
Speaker 6: before I get started. Pete Austin and referee Jerry Calhoun says,
Speaker 6: let's get it started, and Dallas Montgomery starts in off
Speaker 6: as they did jump on mass has jumped for right
Speaker 6: away and has hammered away on him.
Speaker 3: When Eddie was in the studio, they spelled his name
Speaker 3: on the CHIV graphics Eddie b O L D E R.
Speaker 3: So it's not that they're boulders like rocks, they're just
Speaker 3: they're bold.
Speaker 2: They're bold, they're bold individuals old flavors. You know, they're
Speaker 2: showing Eddie Boulder in a corner of the screen watching
Speaker 2: this back over with the bandage.
Speaker 6: On his hand and kind of a pensive look on
Speaker 6: his face.
Speaker 2: I believe that Eddie is supposed to be reacting here,
Speaker 2: but he's just watching in silence.
Speaker 6: He never had a chance. Boulder never had a chance.
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird how.
Speaker 2: We saw Terry in the ring with the singlet. He
Speaker 2: does kind of resemble it in the singlet, like yeah,
Speaker 2: because they have similar length bodies, they're not you know,
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder obviously isn't as big as Terry, but he's
Speaker 2: got a similar length.
Speaker 6: Yes, Torso is looks very similar in some of that.
Speaker 3: It looks like he's dressed like sid and w W. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right, Yeah, definitely is Who's that? It's Danny Davis.
Speaker 6: Back are slaughtering, manager of Ron Bass and Peter Austin,
Speaker 6: Many Hills in the Territory in future, founder and owner
Speaker 6: of Ohio Valley Wrestling.
Speaker 13: Area and the developmental ter attorney.
Speaker 3: We're still running.
Speaker 16: Let's stop this thing that is ridiculous in Austin turns
Speaker 16: on a guy that never even got scarted in there.
Speaker 6: They jumped him before, and hello, why Jerry didn't go
Speaker 6: ahead and just stopped the thing? He sends out again.
Speaker 2: The studio promo Eddie Boulders warn of a black T
Speaker 2: shirt for a gym in Tampa. It's called stands Nature
Speaker 2: right Jim and not much as known about the gym,
Speaker 2: But I was able to find an obituary from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two of a god by the name of doctor
Speaker 2: Staniel William Murray I never even got who died at
Speaker 2: the age of seventy eight in two.
Speaker 3: He was born in New York and moved to.
Speaker 2: Tampa in fifty five and was the proud owner, it says,
Speaker 2: of Stan's Jim and Temple Terrace, where he successfully mentored
Speaker 2: many bodybuilders and other athletes. Wow, I've been down in
Speaker 2: the gym. Down in the comments, you know the memorial
Speaker 2: you kind of leave. Someone named Brian writes Stan was
Speaker 2: an amazing guy. He definitely helped me reach my bodybuilding
Speaker 2: the potential. I remember Stan saying, I reminded thinking of
Speaker 2: the young boyer co. I also remember tipping over the
Speaker 2: cable crossover machine at his gym on fifty sixth Street.
Speaker 2: Stan said, Hulk Hogan was the only other guy to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: What It's definitely the gym, but apparently they switched to
Speaker 3: after having to close Whitey's Olympic Gym that he co
Speaker 3: founded with Whitey Bridges in Cocoa Beach.
Speaker 2: Advertised their workout spot in the hometown as well. Revisit
Speaker 2: the footage now we're back in studio.
Speaker 6: And the thing that it didn't occur to me because
Speaker 6: we didn't have a chance to meet prior to uh
Speaker 6: to that direction and last week's thing. And I don't
Speaker 6: know why I didn't put it together. And I guess
Speaker 6: it's because we affectionately called Terry Boulder the Hulk. I
Speaker 6: never put it together that the Hulk was your brother.
Speaker 17: Well, a lot of people don't know me because I'm
Speaker 17: relatively new to the business. I've just come into the scene,
Speaker 17: you know, recently. So and I also brought a little
Speaker 17: piece of tape along with me here. We got it
Speaker 17: up there, introduce my brother to all these people out
Speaker 17: here and let.
Speaker 6: Him well, I know when they see this guy that
Speaker 6: they won't forget that Terry Boulder is the Hulk.
Speaker 4: Let's take a look at it, right, This man is
Speaker 4: not a television illusion.
Speaker 3: He is. He can watch this all day.
Speaker 4: And artist conception. He is not a figment of the imagination.
Speaker 10: He is real. He stands in a meet.
Speaker 4: Using six foot seven inches tall. He weighs an incredible
Speaker 4: three hundred and twenty four pounds.
Speaker 8: He is the Hawk.
Speaker 4: The Hawk, without a doubt, is the most awesome figure
Speaker 4: in professional wrestling today. His measurements are almost unbelievable. His
Speaker 4: neck measures twenty four and three quarter inches, his chest
Speaker 4: expands to an incredible fifty nine inches, his biceps are
Speaker 4: twenty six inches, and at the end of these powerful
Speaker 4: arms are two to twelve inch fists. This magnificent upper
Speaker 4: body tapers off to only a thirty four inch waist.
Speaker 4: The Hawk is supported by treelike legs that can leg
Speaker 4: press over nineteen hundred pounds. Combine these amazing measurements with
Speaker 4: more broote strength than you can imagine, and you have
Speaker 4: the Hall.
Speaker 8: And the Hulk is coming here.
Speaker 3: Boy my god.
Speaker 6: Uh no, we won't forget that. The Hulk is Terry Boulder.
Speaker 17: I'm sure that people out there can all see that, Uh,
Speaker 17: the Hulk is coming, you know, and they there will
Speaker 17: be no problems once the Hulk gets here, you know. Uh,
Speaker 17: what happened out there, They back jumped me. You know,
Speaker 17: I'm I'm relatively new to the business, and uh, I
Speaker 17: wasn't aware that. Uh it's Pete Austin and uh it's
Speaker 17: Ron Bass where that type of men to jump somebody
Speaker 17: from behind. But I know now, and uh and the
Speaker 17: Hulk he knows too. He's been following my career very closely.
Speaker 17: Uh see, we're we're very very close. We're closer than
Speaker 17: most brothers. You know, We're we're very tight. And when
Speaker 17: he learned of this incident, when I called him and
Speaker 17: he insisted that he immediately come into the picture here
Speaker 17: and I told him that, you know, everything was okay,
Speaker 17: but but he's coming in and uh, Monday night, Monday night,
Speaker 17: He's coming in and we're going to take care of
Speaker 17: this whole situation.
Speaker 6: Listen, Eddie.
Speaker 3: Job at a past brother. Uh the camera.
Speaker 6: How about when you all had trouble as youngsters.
Speaker 17: Well as even as youngsters. You know, whenever one was
Speaker 17: in trouble, someone was to attack one or back jump
Speaker 17: one a fight or anything, Terry was always there or
Speaker 17: I was always there to help Terry. You know, we
Speaker 17: were always very close and we're always together. There when
Speaker 17: when either one was in need, we were always there
Speaker 17: to back each other up. And uh, you know, it's
Speaker 17: never it's never been any different that, and I don't
Speaker 17: believe it's ever going to be any different that.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what great to have you here, Eddie.
Speaker 6: Next time it'll be a lot different. We'll be looking
Speaker 6: for you to have a chance in that ring on it.
Speaker 6: We appreciate very much of coming out. Good luck to
Speaker 6: you and your amazing brother Terry Bowlder the halt. We're
Speaker 6: going to be back in just a moment.
Speaker 2: I love it, so uh yeah, good luck to you indeed,
Speaker 2: and prescient words there for Eddie Boulder. It'll never be
Speaker 2: it will never be different between us. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 2: how long you want to wait. That's true. But it's
Speaker 2: true the fact that these people were watching this television
Speaker 2: show in the summer of seventy nine and it's the
Speaker 2: future Hulk Hogan that they're talking about and about to see. Yep,
Speaker 2: yeah them, it's just, you know, maybe the fifth most
Speaker 2: interesting thing on the show that week.
Speaker 3: Oh it's insane, Eddie.
Speaker 2: You should have shown some more fire like you should
Speaker 2: have been a little pissed off about being taken advantage
Speaker 2: of like that, and you should be getting people fired
Speaker 2: up at the prospect that your brother's coming here to
Speaker 2: even the score Monday at the Mid South Coliseum. But
Speaker 2: that's as uh day one nervous as you'll ever see
Speaker 2: in a wrestling promo right there.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's about as ed leslie as you can
Speaker 3: fucking get.
Speaker 2: So the listless ed Boulder promises us that Terry's coming.
Speaker 2: I would love to know, like why they couldn't have
Speaker 2: just shown up on the same week. I guess the
Speaker 2: angle was that Eddie has to show up first and is.
Speaker 3: Well think about it, though, this is the same fucking angle, yes,
Speaker 3: that he's done. I love I would do in the future.
Speaker 3: This is this is the setup to WrestleMania nin Yes,
Speaker 3: it's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 2: It so is, And I'm so glad you said that too,
Speaker 2: because it's also what he did in Alabama. Remember when
Speaker 2: Ron Fuller was describing how he came out to rescue
Speaker 2: Ron Fuller. He's got no original ideas except that about
Speaker 2: your hero. Paul Cogan has no original idea enough about
Speaker 2: the TNH series laid that one abundantly clear. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: abyss was the version of it then right, try to
Speaker 2: run it again. He tries to run it over and
Speaker 2: over again. And it all started here when he comes
Speaker 2: to the rescue of his brother Eddie Boulder on Memphis
Speaker 2: Wrestling Television. Click forward a bit July sixteenth, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: Here we are at the pages of the Memphis Press
Speaker 2: Scimitar again, this one July thirteenth, seventy nine. Actually, because
Speaker 2: wrestling Monday Night, July sixteenth, eight pm at the Mid
Speaker 2: South Colisseum will have a main event for the Southern
Speaker 2: Tag team Titless Wayne Ferris and Larry lathamis champions defend
Speaker 2: against Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee. And then read underneath
Speaker 2: there it is boss the match promoted there off the
Speaker 2: angle run bass in Pete Austin will team to face
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder, still spelled Bolder and yes, the Hulk Allay,
Speaker 2: not Terry the Hulk Boulder, but just the Hulk. And
Speaker 2: you think you think we established clearly that in Southeastern
Speaker 2: he was being presented as kind of like a not
Speaker 2: so subtle ripoff of the Hulk of television fame, of
Speaker 2: Lufurigno fame. Wait to see how far they take it
Speaker 2: in Memphis especially when the famous artist illustrator Jerry Lawler
Speaker 2: gets his hands on you know something, Oh boy, some
Speaker 2: renderings for some promotional material down there. I mean, Jerry
Speaker 2: just straight rips off Marvel, rips off the type face
Speaker 2: and the font that they would use in the incredible
Speaker 2: hult com Oh shits wow, there's nothing left to question there.
Speaker 2: They are just straight up trying to use Marvel ip
Speaker 2: to sell tickets to wrestling shows. Also on the card,
Speaker 2: no time limit, notice qualification, no referee in the ring
Speaker 2: as Tommy Gilbert faces Buddy Wayne Steve what's that?
Speaker 3: How do you win? No no time limit, notice qualification,
Speaker 3: no referee, how do you win? Just beat the guys
Speaker 3: senseless and just leave the ring? I guess Steve Regal
Speaker 3: not that one, but uh, mister incredible Steve Regal, who
Speaker 3: will talk about more as we go, takes on the
Speaker 3: Hangman and Randy Tyler and Eddy Gilbert facingn S. So
Speaker 3: we got we got, we got the Lord Stephen Rigal
Speaker 3: versus Adam Hangman Adam not that Steve Regal, not that Hangman.
Speaker 3: Well whatever, Randy Tyler and Eddie Gilbert, who's skinning into
Speaker 3: the business there, Young Eddie Gilbert will be a failby
Speaker 3: a factor and a player for years to come versus
Speaker 3: Hans Schroeder and the Gestapo. That's right, and Ken Wayne
Speaker 3: versus Rick Morton as well. There we go the card.
Speaker 2: So hit us with what hits the Memphis Press scimitar
Speaker 2: the week after this ad run, so the day after
Speaker 2: the Monday night matches. This is the coverage the next
Speaker 2: day in the paper.
Speaker 3: Ferris Latham hold on to tag title. Wayne Ferris and
Speaker 3: Larry Latham are still the Southern Tag Team Champions. The
Speaker 3: pair retained their belts last night by opinion by winning
Speaker 3: on his qualification over Bill Dundee and Jerry Lawler on
Speaker 3: the main event of the Weekly Professional Wrestling card at
Speaker 3: the Mint South Coliseum. Another matches before the six fifty one,
Speaker 3: the team of Randy Tyler and Eddie Gilbert won over
Speaker 3: Hans Schroeder and the Gestapo. Ken Wayne and Ricky Morton
Speaker 3: battled to a draw. Steve Regal beat the Hangman, Buddy
Speaker 3: Wayne pinned Tommy Gilbert, and the Hulk combined with Eddie
Speaker 3: Boulder spelled correctly to defeat Ron Bass and Pete Austin.
Speaker 2: Even though Eddie Boulders called Eddie Boulder they're still not
Speaker 2: calling the Hulk Timmy Boulder.
Speaker 3: In the paper. In the commercial appeal, Ferris Latham retained
Speaker 3: belts Wayne Ferris and Larry Lathing to retain their Southern
Speaker 3: Tag Team belts and in winning by this qualification over
Speaker 3: Bill Dundee and Jerry Lawler before six and sixty one,
Speaker 3: ten more than apparently than the Scimitar had reported. There's
Speaker 3: a discrepancy here, folks. It's right. In the main event
Speaker 3: last night's wrestling action at the mid South the Coliseum
Speaker 3: and other matches, Ken Wayne and Rick Morton fought to
Speaker 3: a draw, while Randy Tyler and Eddie Gilbert defeated Hans
Speaker 3: Schrozer and the Gestapo. Steve Riegal won over the Hangman.
Speaker 3: Buddy Wayne up ended Tommy Gilbert and the Hulk team
Speaker 3: with Eddie Boulder to beat Ron Bass and Pete Austin.
Speaker 2: Indeed, so we have the arrival of Eddie Boulder's brother
Speaker 2: in the territory and they succeed, But it's definitely not
Speaker 2: the main event. It's definitely not the co main event.
Speaker 2: Now we're kind of pushing it a bit further on
Speaker 2: the page on the print ad it's second from the top,
Speaker 2: but in this coverage, it seems like the opener honestly
Speaker 2: the right position it. And if you doubted what I said,
Speaker 2: click forward and look at how they use the Hulk.
Speaker 3: Lettering. Look at that. Let me see. Wow, I mean
Speaker 3: that's not even Jesus Christ. They're not even fucking They're
Speaker 3: not hiding it, not even trying to hide it. So
Speaker 3: it's like, how do you describe it? Like, Hulk looks
Speaker 3: like like bricks, right, it was like bricks that are
Speaker 3: broken and stuff.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what. This is a picture of the
Speaker 2: program that you're at. Welch Wrestling Company presents Action ringside
Speaker 2: wrestling program that you could pick up, I guess for
Speaker 2: fifty cents at the arena. This is a copy of
Speaker 2: one that apparently gets point back then. It was signed
Speaker 2: by Hulk Hogan's Terry Boulder Hulk. And there he is flexing,
Speaker 2: you know, doing the I don't know what you would
Speaker 2: call that where you like puts his traps out and
Speaker 2: flexes his two fists together in the front, kind of
Speaker 2: like the concluding part of his pose in WWF.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's like the the
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just saw that's the Hulk Cogan
Speaker 3: post post is good enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, and there he is with Hulk above
Speaker 2: his head, and it's just like this is the Marvel
Speaker 2: guy after the right. Here you see what does eight
Speaker 2: ball have in common with Danny Davis. If you said
Speaker 2: that Davis spends most of his life behind the eight ball,
Speaker 2: you're only half right. But the real answer is that
Speaker 2: Sergeant Danny Davis is now ball. That's a billiard ball.
Speaker 2: That gleam you see in Davis's eye in the picture
Speaker 2: is probably gone now because of an unexpected haircut courtesy
Speaker 2: of Bill Dunde. So apparently build Unde had taken the
Speaker 2: hair off of the head of Danny Davis, the manager
Speaker 2: of Pete Austin. And then underneath another picture of Terry Boulder,
Speaker 2: this time with the most seventies black sideburns peeking out
Speaker 2: from gold hair with the seventies bomber shades on, and
Speaker 2: even it looks like the mustache is even black, and
Speaker 2: he's got his head towering over the head of Ron Bass.
Speaker 2: It says, the Hulk is coming for you, so clearly
Speaker 2: promoting to the fans buying the programs back then that
Speaker 2: Hulk is here to get Revenge on Ron Bass. Click
Speaker 2: ahead and you see another example of the same program
Speaker 2: with the same typeface, this one from the Evansville Coliseum
Speaker 2: matches and Wednesday, July eighteenth, and you see there the
Speaker 2: Hulk versus the Hangman listed as among the matches underneath
Speaker 2: a six man tag made event of Lawler, Dundee and
Speaker 2: Jerry jarreted against Wayne Ferris, Larry Latham and Pete Austen.
Speaker 2: So the Hulk is here and we're about to hear
Speaker 2: from him haar for the first time. I think, yes,
Speaker 2: this is the first time words are going to come
Speaker 2: out of Terry Bollay's mouth.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: In footage that we have watched in the complete hul
Speaker 2: Cochin this is it. This is the first time he
Speaker 2: stepped to a mic and we've gotten to hear his voice.
Speaker 2: So what did he sound like in the earliest of days?
Speaker 2: You see Ad Boulder there off to the left of
Speaker 2: Lance Russell on the WMC TV studio set in Memphis,
Speaker 2: and off to the right and the tightest black V
Speaker 2: neck T shirt he could find with the shades on
Speaker 2: indoors black pants. Nw O Hogan right there, n w
Speaker 2: O Hogan, are you ready to hear what his voice
Speaker 2: sounded like in the earliest days. I am ready free
Speaker 2: two one play.
Speaker 8: Talk about mister Bass for a minute.
Speaker 11: One of the most tragic events in his life is
Speaker 11: just about to take place this Monday, when I get
Speaker 11: my hands on him. There's just been a little bit
Speaker 11: of a problem where we come from. There's a bad
Speaker 11: junkyard dog in Port Tampa, you know, and he was
Speaker 11: always beating on all the little dogs and biting on
Speaker 11: their ears and everything. And all of a sudden, a
Speaker 11: little bit bigger dogs came along. And last Monday in Memphis,
Speaker 11: my brother dropped so many eyes, I mean so many
Speaker 11: elbows on mister Bass's head, and his eyes kind of
Speaker 11: looked like goofy grape.
Speaker 8: You know. Well, now missus Bass is running scared.
Speaker 11: Because the big dogs got on. Well, there's just a
Speaker 11: little bit bigger dogs after you, brother, and that's me
Speaker 11: and this Monday night in Memphis, Daddy, when I get
Speaker 11: a hold of you, mister Bass, I'm gonna take you.
Speaker 8: And that's sucking accident, a little bit of.
Speaker 11: A wrestling lesson, a little respect for these good people
Speaker 11: around here. I'm gonna put the super Southern squeeze on you, Daddy,
Speaker 11: and when I get done with you, brother, I'm gonna
Speaker 11: squeeze all that meanness out of you and all those
Speaker 11: bad ways you have, and I'm gonna turn you over
Speaker 11: these people in Memphis and let them whip on you
Speaker 11: a little bit after you down and out.
Speaker 8: That's a promise. I'm gonna make everybody here, and I'm
Speaker 8: gonna have my running shoes on.
Speaker 11: So if you plan on run and one more time
Speaker 11: from me, I'm coming after you. And if I catch
Speaker 11: in the dressing room and drag you all the way
Speaker 11: back out to the ring.
Speaker 6: And a lot of folks that I don't want mad
Speaker 6: at me, but this is the one that I for
Speaker 6: sure don't put Matt at me. The Hult and his
Speaker 6: brother Eddie Bowler will be right there Monday night. Good
Speaker 6: luck to you down there, you guys, and we'll be
Speaker 6: looking for it, okay, Terry and Eddie and we've got
Speaker 6: more wrestling action coming up.
Speaker 2: Here and shake between the brothers by Lance Trust's back.
Speaker 2: Edler saying, absolutely nothing standing there like a fucking scarecrow.
Speaker 2: Goofy grape I'm seeing here was a popular character like
Speaker 2: a cartoon on a great flavored powdered drink that was
Speaker 2: out back then, so and he had kind of funny
Speaker 2: looking eyes. So I guess Hulk had just had a
Speaker 2: swig or two before hitting this set goofy grape on
Speaker 2: the mind. I mean, yeah, we do have to talk
Speaker 2: about it. I mean, the voice that.
Speaker 3: That accent is is, I've never heard that before. Hear
Speaker 3: him with that much of an accent. Ever, it's it's it's,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's a nerving, a nerving. Sure,
Speaker 3: yeah it's uncomfortable, but I mean he doesn't sound too
Speaker 3: far off, but it's just a little bit.
Speaker 2: A little off. Yeah, it's got like this almost like
Speaker 2: this velvety kind of tone to it where he's like
Speaker 2: really relaxed. It's almost like, you know, someone who used
Speaker 2: to have an accent, they get rid of it, but
Speaker 2: then they get drunk and it comes back, right, I
Speaker 2: imagine you know that Port Tampa. Whatever he's trying to
Speaker 2: say comes out when he used to get a little sauced.
Speaker 2: I'm not say he's sauced here, but he has yet
Speaker 2: to be in front of enough cameras that he's like
Speaker 2: shaking the accent out of his voice, you know, right,
Speaker 2: this is what I imagine he sounded like. It's one
Speaker 2: of the questions we wrestled with when we did his
Speaker 2: earliest days in Tampa as part of the complete hul Cochin, Like,
Speaker 2: what does this guy sound like before he becomes accustomed
Speaker 2: to being a television star, before he starts to put
Speaker 2: on I think this is probably as close as we're
Speaker 2: going to get. It wouldn't be surprised if it sounded
Speaker 2: much different than this. And again, I can never forget
Speaker 2: Gary Bearris, his childhood friend, telling us this guy would
Speaker 2: go on and on about being from Port Tampa his
Speaker 2: whole life because he thought it made him cool to
Speaker 2: be from Port Tampa, because Port Tampa apparently meant something
Speaker 2: to people who grew up in that city. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't from Port Tampa. We didn't throw up in Port Tampa.
Speaker 2: That was another area.
Speaker 3: But there he is.
Speaker 2: As soon as he gets on television, he can't help
Speaker 2: but conveying to people that he's from this rough and
Speaker 2: tumble area called Port Tampa. Bizarre, but yeah, Terry boulders
Speaker 2: here and it's a pretty good promo. I mean he
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, considered as good. Yeah, that's what a
Speaker 2: baby face should be saying. In seventy nine, like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna throw you around, I'm gonna beat your ass for
Speaker 2: these people. Yep, I'm even gonna let them have it,
Speaker 2: have a crack at you. I think we should do
Speaker 2: it one more time. Okay, so we're gonna watch it again,
Speaker 2: just because it's too historic, it's too important, it's too seminal,
Speaker 2: it's too foundational.
Speaker 8: So in three to one, talk about mister Bass for
Speaker 8: a minute.
Speaker 11: Uh, one of the most tragic events in his life
Speaker 11: is just about to take place this money when I
Speaker 11: get my hands on him. There's just been a little
Speaker 11: bit of a problem where we come from. There's a
Speaker 11: bad junkyard dog in Port Tampa, you know, and he
Speaker 11: was always beating on all the little dogs and biting
Speaker 11: on their ears and everything.
Speaker 8: And all of a sudden, a little.
Speaker 3: Bit bigger dog came along, bigger dog.
Speaker 11: Last Monday in Memphis, my brother dropped so many eyes,
Speaker 11: I mean so many elbows on mister Bass's head and
Speaker 11: his eyes kind of like goofy grape. You know.
Speaker 8: Well, now mister Bass is running scared.
Speaker 11: Because the big dog's good on him. Well, there's just
Speaker 11: a little bit your dog is after you, brother, and
Speaker 11: that's me and this Monday night in Memphis, Daddy. When
Speaker 11: I get a hold of you, mister Bass, I'm gonna
Speaker 11: take you and bury your head right than mat brother,
Speaker 11: I'm gonna teach you a little bit of a wrestling lesson,
Speaker 11: a little respect for these good people around here.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna put the.
Speaker 11: Super Southern squeeze on you, daddy, And when I get
Speaker 11: done with you, brother, I'm gonna squeeze all that mean
Speaker 11: this side of you and all those bad ways you have,
Speaker 11: and I'm gonna turn you over to these people in
Speaker 11: Memphis and let them whip on you a little bit
Speaker 11: after you're down and out.
Speaker 8: That's a promise.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna make everybody here and i'm gonna have my
Speaker 11: running shoes on, So if you plan on run and
Speaker 11: one more time for me, I'm coming after you. And
Speaker 11: if I catch in the dress room and drag you
Speaker 11: all the way back out to the ring and.
Speaker 6: A lot of folks that I don't want mad at me,
Speaker 6: but this is the one that I for sure don't
Speaker 6: want mad at me. The Hault and his brother Eddie
Speaker 6: Bowler will be right there Monday night. Good luck to
Speaker 6: you down there, you guys, and we'll be looking for
Speaker 6: it okay, Terry and Eddie, and we've got more wrestling
Speaker 6: action coming up.
Speaker 2: Terry and Eddie man Buddy Buddy Cop movie in the making,
Speaker 2: Oh seriously, and he's got a I also noticed too
Speaker 2: that Terry has the flowing yoga pants on that he
Speaker 2: had on in the under the Giant Arm wrestling angle,
Speaker 2: where he's got the fucking sandals on. Yep, so he's
Speaker 2: he's he's playing at real loose. I mean, you couldn't
Speaker 2: wear regular sized pants when you Roy did as hard
Speaker 2: as he did and worked out as hard as he
Speaker 2: did and weightlifted as much because you're just you know,
Speaker 2: That's why the zubas were so popular too. Your fucking
Speaker 2: thighs get so big that you can't your legs can't
Speaker 2: fit in any conventional pants. You have to wear like
Speaker 2: a dress basically, or something that's flowing with big air
Speaker 2: availability to it. So there he is. Terry Boulder is
Speaker 2: in Memphis for a bona fide run and he's here
Speaker 2: to come to the aid of his brother Eddie. And
Speaker 2: we flick forward a bit. Here's some more print ads,
Speaker 2: this one from the Jackson Sun, Jackson, Tennessee, which was
Speaker 2: part of the circuit as well at the Coliseum. It'll
Speaker 2: be Saturday night, July twenty first, nineteen seventy nine, eight pm,
Speaker 2: four dollars ring side, four dollars loads, general mission, three bucks,
Speaker 2: children twelve and under a buck in the Loews in
Speaker 2: general admission, Section made. Event is going to be Terry
Speaker 2: the Hulk, Boulder b O L A d e R,
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder Bo L.
Speaker 3: D E R.
Speaker 2: And Jerry the King Lawler. There's a trio for you, Terry,
Speaker 2: He's Wacky Eddie and Jerry versus Ron Bass, Pete Austin
Speaker 2: and Danny Davis. Also on the card, Wayne Ferris and
Speaker 2: Larry Latham take on Steve Regal and Rick Wharton, Hans
Speaker 2: Schroeder wrestles, Randy Tyler and the Gestapo faces Coco Whare.
Speaker 2: So again there's the confirmation as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 2: of him showing them the ropes in seventy nine, because
Speaker 2: of course he's on the same cards apparently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as we know he he taught him everything that
Speaker 3: they know.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, there's another readout for the card that looks
Speaker 2: to be a little different. Oh no, no, that's a
Speaker 2: that's a six manages. I thought it was three different
Speaker 2: matches Terry bouldervers Ron Bass and Eddie Boulderver's Pete Austin.
Speaker 2: It's it's the same thing. So that's what they did
Speaker 2: after having them at South Coloseum match. They went around
Speaker 2: the horn, apparently involving Jerry Lawler as well. And here
Speaker 2: is a match from Jackson, Tennessee. I believe it is
Speaker 2: the match if we fast forward a clip and get
Speaker 2: some even some more visuals. Here a visual feast of
Speaker 2: terryness here thanks to the Memphis run. And what this
Speaker 2: is just eight millimeters footage. I don't know how and
Speaker 2: why this survives. Must be the personal collection of a
Speaker 2: fan who used to film the matches back then.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: So it's not like the prior things we've seen where
Speaker 2: it's clipped off television and you hear Lance Russell's voice
Speaker 2: and you can hear the sound of the mat you
Speaker 2: hear promos or people in studio doing commentary. You're just
Speaker 2: going to hear the sound of a film. But this
Speaker 2: is what it looked like when Terry the Hope Boulder
Speaker 2: came into Memphis to avenge his brother Eddie and get
Speaker 2: in there and start to kick some tail with none
Speaker 2: other than Jerry the King Lawler on their side as well.
Speaker 2: So if you're ready, boss, we hit play three two
Speaker 2: one play get ready for ufim de Yes. Wow, here
Speaker 2: they come. Wow Lawler and Hogan on the march. Terry
Speaker 2: Boley and the Blue Singlett steps up Very Boulder and
Speaker 2: it starts running after people just like you. WWF. Hits
Speaker 2: the ring and runs him off, conking his fist. The
Speaker 2: two blonde bombers Terry and Ned Boulder share in the ring.
Speaker 2: Eddie in a black sink let Jerry with no uh
Speaker 2: straps up, just black trunks. See the introductions being made here.
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about talking over any announcers here.
Speaker 2: Terry and the Blue Singing Blue Patsy, what are you seeing?
Speaker 2: Let the people know?
Speaker 3: I mean, he just just he looks incredible shape. He's
Speaker 3: not completely Hulk Hogan massive, but he's still pretty fucking big.
Speaker 2: Does have the mushroom cloud shaped into his chest here
Speaker 2: by now I saw that, yep, which he did not
Speaker 2: have in his first Memphis appearance. So here's Pete Austin
Speaker 2: swinging at Jerry Lawler, who ducks out of the heel
Speaker 2: corner and Pete Austin kind of a bruiser brody looking
Speaker 2: motherfucker besides him.
Speaker 3: Like a love child of Brody and Andree.
Speaker 2: Cogan waiting patiently on the apron as Jerry and Pete
Speaker 2: offs in exchange right hand Sam Bass. Now as we
Speaker 2: flash forward, Lawler grabs a side headlock. What's say he
Speaker 2: made a tag to Terry Bowler?
Speaker 3: Oh nope, a.
Speaker 2: Couple of tags attempted but not consummated. His Lawler content
Speaker 2: to exchange with the outlaw. Just great stuff to be
Speaker 2: a fan back.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ah, nothing like it. Nothing like it.
Speaker 2: So far has just been Terry and Eddie on the
Speaker 2: ring apron really, After hitting the ring like a house
Speaker 2: on fire and running the bad guys off, the Lawler
Speaker 2: finally turns top. Look at that counseling a bit with
Speaker 2: the future Hulk Hogan. Ah, Terry hits the ring, cocks
Speaker 2: the fist, and you can he's doing his light thing,
Speaker 2: his brock lesnar thing where he hops in place, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: other walking up with Pete Austin. Now is Terry Boulder
Speaker 2: snatches aside headlock, cranking it crank of Ruski rank Erusky
Speaker 2: in Memphis. Little nervous Lawler looks, I know, Pete Austin
Speaker 2: cranked till he hits the matt. Terry tags out to Eddie,
Speaker 2: grabs a headlock of his own.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 2: Look at Eddie Boulder, who's doing the same thing. That's
Speaker 2: all he could do, just crank a headlock.
Speaker 3: How long he does this?
Speaker 2: Lollard legal now going to the gut of Pete Austin
Speaker 2: and snatching Danny Davis as well on the side headlock.
Speaker 2: Terry Boulder back in action. Here's the hole Star grabs
Speaker 2: another headlock. They've been told to just crank headlocks, apparently
Speaker 2: rank the fucking headlock Jesus, which is funny because if
Speaker 2: they're telling themselves all they can do, we already saw
Speaker 2: that he can do more than that. We already saw
Speaker 2: it in the territory, So don't tell me from the headlock.
Speaker 2: Boulder crotchlam lifts and dumps Dandy Davis with a big
Speaker 2: slam and a.
Speaker 3: Light drop by Terry Boulder. Eddie did it the right way,
Speaker 3: but it's not the finish. He picked in Davis up
Speaker 3: off the canvas. Eddy, who goes to another headlock. Oh,
Speaker 3: Eddie's doing is cranking that thing. He's doing nothing else,
Speaker 3: but there it is a backsou play not an atomic
Speaker 3: drop to break the headlock. Hy Eddie Boulder, who brings
Speaker 3: Danny Davis to the corner. Lawler in there now peppering
Speaker 3: Danny Davis with right hands on basses enter the fray,
Speaker 3: offering a handshake to Jerry the King Lawler this direction.
Speaker 2: Lawler two keen, though, got out of the way on
Speaker 2: a charging bass and drops him with the with the
Speaker 2: right Here comes Terry Boulder. Lawler charges the corner and
Speaker 2: this massive backup for Jerry Lawler must have seem so cool.
Speaker 2: Back then, how to go out? The cavalry arriving Pete
Speaker 2: Austin runs right in to Terry Boulder and takes the bump.
Speaker 2: He's a wall of a man, boss, clubbing forearm in
Speaker 2: the corner. Boulder applies to full Nelson, holding Pete Austin
Speaker 2: open for a right hand by Lawler. That funny because
Speaker 2: this Pete Austin is not a small guy.
Speaker 3: Oh he's huge. I know.
Speaker 2: Eddie boulders back in. I'll give you one guess what
Speaker 2: he's doing. Headlock and they fall on the ground in
Speaker 2: the headlock position. Is Eddie Boulder. The first attempt at
Speaker 2: our long speculated headlock finished guy. Now it looks like
Speaker 2: it's broken down. Everyone's all over the place. Terry boulders
Speaker 2: in lifting and slamming Pete Austin to the gas. Eddie
Speaker 2: Boulder comes in and covers. I think you just got
Speaker 2: a two pe. D Austin reins down a double axe
Speaker 2: handle on Eddie Boulder and slams Eddie Boulder, who barely
Speaker 2: gets over for the slam.
Speaker 3: Not a very.
Speaker 2: Polished bump there from the future, Brutus Beefcake pranking on
Speaker 2: the chin. Eddie's building up like Kulkwood from the submission.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is what came of those promos. We
Speaker 2: were watching as Ron Bass floors Eddie, Pete Austen chokes
Speaker 2: Eddie behind the refs back in the corner, Rams Midt
Speaker 2: of the buckle, Any Davis getting some cheap shots in
Speaker 2: there as well. Run hoodlocked by a Bass trying to
Speaker 2: control Boulder was trying to inches way to the corner
Speaker 2: and make the tag, doesn't get it posited. Back on
Speaker 2: his seat in the heel corner is Eddie Boulder pulling
Speaker 2: his hair. He's doing nothing nothing, You think it's such
Speaker 2: a bitch, just selling his ass off, flailing all over
Speaker 2: the place. He tracked in the sleeper of.
Speaker 18: Peter as Terry Boulder reaching Terry Lawler clapping, trying to
Speaker 18: rally Eddie Boulder, but he's being kept pretty snuggly in
Speaker 18: the middle of the ring by the headlock of Pete Austin.
Speaker 2: Here comes Danny Davis, now taking the fight to Boulder.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he brought Terry in to save him
Speaker 2: from these kind of beatdowns. Terry gets here, he's just watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, in his defense, he says, you know, he
Speaker 3: can only come in when he's tagged in. Gotta respect
Speaker 3: the rules. Who else fucking wild right hands to the
Speaker 3: bread basket and now Terry's been tagged. Here comes the
Speaker 3: hot tag we all know, elbows, elbows and rights from
Speaker 3: Terry Boulder going off boom Pete Austin and Danny Davis.
Speaker 3: Dandy Davis is in the bear hug Ron Bassett to
Speaker 3: bring to break it up, clubbing Boulder from behind. Boulder
Speaker 3: drops Davis and turns to him and hulks up makes
Speaker 3: the big form of the big traps pose.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 3: Davis is trying to use the military helmet on Boulder.
Speaker 3: Lawler rolls up Davis for the one tooth Throttler gets
Speaker 3: the pin. Francus continues at ringside. Referee raises the hands
Speaker 3: of the Bolder brothers and Jerry the King Lawler and
Speaker 3: they all exchange who's given who the rub here? Because
Speaker 3: it looks like Lawler wants anything you can with the
Speaker 3: Hulk think so yeah, not something he would ever admit
Speaker 3: to later.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that for sure. As the film
Speaker 2: runs out with the little hair on it or whatever you.
Speaker 3: Call it, yep, yep, hair and dirt yep, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's good stuff. That's wild, what a find, what a reality,
Speaker 3: what a need.
Speaker 2: But it's funny because years later they would ask Jerry
Speaker 2: Lawler about I don't know about his memories of involving
Speaker 2: involving Hulk Hogan and stuff in the territory. He was
Speaker 2: interviewed in twenty sixteen by Inside Pulse and he had
Speaker 2: this reflection Hulk Hogan, he came right here and started
Speaker 2: with us. He had been playing bass guitar and a
Speaker 2: band down in Florida. There it is again, skipping Alabama.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jarrett and I co signed for his first car
Speaker 2: that he ever had. When he was right here, Lawler recalled,
Speaker 2: he was nowhere near a polished worker yet and the
Speaker 2: thing that really held him back. I think the reason
Speaker 2: we kind of had to let him go, Lawler says,
Speaker 2: because he was bound to determine for us to give
Speaker 2: this kid that he brought with him. He called him
Speaker 2: Dizzy Hogan, which I think he may have turned out
Speaker 2: to be. He's talking about ed Leslie here. He called
Speaker 2: him Dizzy Hogan, which I think may have turned out
Speaker 2: to be. I don't know if it was brutus beefcake
Speaker 2: and he was horrible, Lawler says of ed Leslie.
Speaker 3: Horrible.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was the deal. If we used Hulk, we
Speaker 2: had to use this other kid, his best friend. So
Speaker 2: definitely not impressed. Then I can see why, having watched
Speaker 2: that little piece of footage. Yeah, but yeah, that let
Speaker 2: the beginning of the package deal, right, the beginning of
Speaker 2: the package deal. You get ed if you hire the Holster.
Speaker 2: It was true even as far back as nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: according to Jerry Lawler. That's crazy, which is it is
Speaker 2: really nuts. Next is a video clip where we don't
Speaker 2: have Hulk on screen, but it's a surviving piece of
Speaker 2: Memphis television from nineteen seventy nine, where Hulk is mentioned
Speaker 2: as part of a rundown. So this is just sort
Speaker 2: of like, you know, some atmospherics around what it was
Speaker 2: like to watch Memphis Wrestling TV back then, and Lance
Speaker 2: Russell making the announcement of some upcoming Hulk action. So
Speaker 2: let's hit play in three.
Speaker 3: To hold, because you know what I was skipping ahead
Speaker 3: and I am this is.
Speaker 2: The July twenty first, nineteen seventy nine clip. Yep, I'm ready,
Speaker 2: three two one play.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk about the entire card as a matter
Speaker 6: of fact, Monday down at the Coliseum. It'll start at
Speaker 6: eight o'clock and if you get the afternoon, you can
Speaker 6: go buy the Colisseum and pick your tickets up until
Speaker 6: five o'clock today and all day on Monday for advanced
Speaker 6: ticket sales right down at the Mid South Colosseum. If
Speaker 6: you're there in time, you will get yourself an opener
Speaker 6: at eight o'clock that'll have Ken Wayne and the Hangman
Speaker 6: going against Rick Morton and Eddie Gilbert. In the next bout,
Speaker 6: Hans Schroeder and the Gestapo will be tangling with Big
Speaker 6: Randy Tyler and Steve Riegle. That should be a good team.
Speaker 6: A tape fist match. This one you'll like Tommy Gilbert,
Speaker 6: Buddy Wayne Tape Fist praying that will not be a
Speaker 6: wrestling match, you can bet on that. And then following
Speaker 6: that will be a women's world title match when Vivian
Speaker 6: Saint John will be in challenging the champion, the Fabulous
Speaker 6: Mullah right down at the Coliseum Wow. And after that,
Speaker 6: Jerry Lawler Bill Dundee will be taking on those fabulous
Speaker 6: free Birds Terry Gordy and Michael z That that is
Speaker 6: going to be a tag match you don't want to miss,
Speaker 6: Wayne Ferris, Larry Latham, Sergeant Davis against the Fargos Jackie
Speaker 6: and rough House. And then the big main event after
Speaker 6: all of that, you're gonna see Ron Bass and Pete Austin,
Speaker 6: two very big ones going against a couple of guys
Speaker 6: that are just a little bit bigger, Eddie Boulder and
Speaker 6: the huge hulk Terry Boulder, who will be in there
Speaker 6: in action against Bass and Austin. That'll be Monday night,
Speaker 6: eight o'clock action time right at the mid South Coliseum.
Speaker 6: Open with Us had the opportunity to pick your tickets
Speaker 6: up today. We've got more wrestling action coming up in
Speaker 6: the ring and we're going to be back to it
Speaker 6: right after we take time out of this.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's awesome, it's so good.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, framed in no uncertain terms, there is the
Speaker 2: main event like that was like the way he read
Speaker 2: that and the way they ordered the matches, like people
Speaker 2: were coming out to see, you know, Eddie Boulder baggage
Speaker 2: aside to see the Hulk kicks some ass. That was
Speaker 2: the main drawing thing in July of nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 2: in the Memphis territory. So just like in Alabama, he
Speaker 2: comes in and he's right to the main event. Yep,
Speaker 2: no in doctrination period, no holding him back because he's
Speaker 2: not ready. Bullshit plug him right in July twenty third.
Speaker 2: Now we fast forward here to the Memphis Press Scimitaur
Speaker 2: and it's going to be Jarrett Wrestling Company Presents Wrestling
Speaker 2: Monday May Toorn Monday July twenty third at the eight
Speaker 2: PM mid South Coloseum made event once again, the Hull
Speaker 2: Can Eddie Boulder Bolder versus Ron Bass and Pete Austin
Speaker 2: and the other matches that were just outlined by Lance
Speaker 2: Russell in studio they spelled Mula right here on Lake
Speaker 2: on television where they spelled at Moola here the age
Speaker 2: is present, Tommy Gilbert, Buddy Wayne. There's also Han Schroeder
Speaker 2: and the Gestapo versus Steve Regal and Randy Tyler, and
Speaker 2: Rick Morton and Eddie Gilbert, the Future Ricky Morton at
Speaker 2: the Rock and Roll Express taking Don, Ken Wayne and
Speaker 2: the Hangman hit the commercial Appeal results Boss for our listeners. Tuesday,
Speaker 2: July twenty.
Speaker 3: Four, Boulders take victory The Hulk, Terry Boulder and Eddie
Speaker 3: Boulder defeated Ron Bass and Pete Austin. And last night's
Speaker 3: main wrestling event at the Mid South Coliseum before six
Speaker 3: two Fans and other matches, Rick Morton and Eddie Gilbert
Speaker 3: beat Ken Wayne and The Hangman, Steve Riegeld, Randy Tyler
Speaker 3: beat Hans Schroeder and the Gestapo, Buddy Wayne beat Tommy Gilbert.
Speaker 3: The Fabulous Mula retained her title when her about with
Speaker 3: Vivian Saint John was stopped for fighting outside the ring
Speaker 3: in a woman's title match. Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee
Speaker 3: beat Terry Gordy and Michael Hayes and in the handicapped
Speaker 3: match Jackie and Roughhouse Fargo stopped Wayne Ferris, Larry.
Speaker 2: Wayne Ferris, Larry the fuck tremendous stuff.
Speaker 3: Wayne Ferris, Larry. Yes.
Speaker 2: He talked about Steve Regal mister incredible and before his
Speaker 2: recent passing he sat with Hannibal for a shoot interview
Speaker 2: where they touched quite a bit on Steve Ridle's early
Speaker 2: interactions with an early career Terry Bolea.
Speaker 19: I was with him when he started in seventy nine.
Speaker 19: He came through Memphis and he and I were partners
Speaker 19: for a while. So I was the guy that went
Speaker 19: out and sold like hell and gave him the big comeback.
Speaker 19: And he learned real quick, and he learned. And then
Speaker 19: I send him to Berne. I said, Terry, you need
Speaker 19: to call Vernon up in Awa. You can make some money.
Speaker 19: He'll you love you.
Speaker 8: And he did.
Speaker 19: And then I went back up to burn a couple
Speaker 19: of years later, and uncle was there and stupid vern
Speaker 19: God bless him, rest his soul. Furn was I say stupid.
Speaker 19: He was just not business oriented. He let her go
Speaker 19: to Vince instead of keeping him there. You know what
Speaker 19: I mean and it wouldn't have taken that much to
Speaker 19: keep him in Minneapolis. But Vince, you know, Vince gave
Speaker 19: him the world and that's where he made his money.
Speaker 19: And I think he probably would have made as much
Speaker 19: with Verne, but Verne would have wanted too much of
Speaker 19: everything that he made and where Vince was a fair
Speaker 19: on that stuff. But that's all history. But uncle, you
Speaker 19: know I was with him through his starting his reign,
Speaker 19: his reign of popularity. He was a great guy, too
Speaker 19: good to travel with. Fun guy.
Speaker 10: I love him your death.
Speaker 9: What was Hulk like in those days? You mentioned it
Speaker 9: was fun? But did you could you tell he was
Speaker 9: going to be a big superstar or was he just
Speaker 9: to you another big guy that might make it.
Speaker 19: No, I could. I could tell. You could see not
Speaker 19: only was he big, but he was hungry. He wanted
Speaker 19: to learn, you know what I mean. He'd ask me
Speaker 19: stuff and I tell him and Jimmy Valley, you handsome
Speaker 19: Jimmy guy was in the territory at that time, and
Speaker 19: he asked Jimmy all kinds of stuff. He wanted to
Speaker 19: be a superstar and he knew he had to get big,
Speaker 19: and he was when he first started in Memphis man.
Speaker 19: He was like three seventy five, three eighty.
Speaker 10: He was big.
Speaker 8: He was huge.
Speaker 19: He cut it all later, you know, from where he
Speaker 19: was on the road. They're getting out a little more
Speaker 19: and not have to carry so much weight. But he
Speaker 19: was huge, and he caught on so quickly. He really
Speaker 19: caught onto the business. And it's a timing thing. It's
Speaker 19: like dancing with a stranger. And he caught onto that
Speaker 19: so quickly. And that's what you need because there's guys.
Speaker 19: Trust me, there's guys out there that are bigger than me.
Speaker 19: I can run faster, dodge faster, whatever you say, but
Speaker 19: they can't get it. They don't get it in the
Speaker 19: progressing ring. When you're in front of twenty thousand people
Speaker 19: and you can do something in a ring and make
Speaker 19: them lift their finger or boo or cheer, then you
Speaker 19: got it. If you don't have that, get your ass
Speaker 19: out because you're going to go broke.
Speaker 2: Good stuff there from Steve Regal. Yeah, I'll say you
Speaker 2: can add to the list of people who want credit
Speaker 2: for sending Hulk to Vern Yep, yep. Somehow he comes
Speaker 2: off more credible. Yeah, yeah, I I I don't listen.
Speaker 2: I at this point I have a hard time believing
Speaker 2: anybody anybody, But if the common DNA we established earlier
Speaker 2: between the Jarrett Memphis office and the AWA with that
Speaker 2: watermark on the print ads was any indication. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite a quite a huge stretch to have
Speaker 2: a guy migrate from Memphis or people he impressed upon
Speaker 2: in Memphis to recommend him to verne Ghanya. And that's
Speaker 2: coming here pretty soon as well. Another huge connection that
Speaker 2: is kind of bubbling beneath the surface. I guess you
Speaker 2: could say, Terry Bulay at this point in time is
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hart. Where does Jimmy come from?
Speaker 3: Boss?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Memphis, Memphis guy. And he got start in the wrestling
Speaker 2: business on the same Memphis television show that we've been watching. Okay,
Speaker 2: all started in nineteen seventy eight when Jimmy Hart involved.
Speaker 2: Of course, much like Kull Cocain used to be in
Speaker 2: a rock and roll band that was called the Gentries. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's only we all know. That's about Jimmy Hart. They
Speaker 2: were playing keep on Dancing like they always did in
Speaker 2: a Monday night in seventy eight, and apparently the Mid
Speaker 2: South Coliseum was the venue. A lot of people in
Speaker 2: the audience and there was a guy they had that
Speaker 2: night sitting in to sing harmony, and it was Jerry
Speaker 2: the King Lawler, the guitar buster, the person that apparently
Speaker 2: was Yeah. They basically worked out a deal where during
Speaker 2: the course of the Gentries concert there would be a
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler angle with handsome Jimmy Valliant, who we know
Speaker 2: very well from sure you know the Star k Memorial
Speaker 2: tour and some other samplings we've done mostly of mid Atlantic,
Speaker 2: but in seventy eight he was one of the big
Speaker 2: heels in Memphis, huge heel and babyface as well. And
Speaker 2: so during the course of this Gentries concert in Memphis
Speaker 2: at the Mid South Coliseum, the mecca of Memphis wrestling,
Speaker 2: Jerry stands in because he fancied himself as a bit
Speaker 2: of a musician. Jerry Lawler thought he was gonna have
Speaker 2: a music career at one point. Yeah, right, he did
Speaker 2: have an album. And during the course of this angle,
Speaker 2: while sitting in for harmony for the Gentries, Jimmy Valliant
Speaker 2: comes out and smashes a guitar over Jerry Lawler's head.
Speaker 2: So it's a big angle, and basically hard had met
Speaker 2: Lawler while touring in music and Lawler trying to get
Speaker 2: involved in music, and eventually it's like, hey, why don't
Speaker 2: why don't you try being in wrestling. You can help
Speaker 2: us promote, you know, how to promote Rocky Wall shows.
Speaker 2: It's it's a very typical kind of kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But of course, by the mid seventies, Boss, you know,
Speaker 2: while Jerry Lawler was wrestling, who is the real King
Speaker 2: of Memphis? We ask you who is the real king
Speaker 2: in that in that storied city in wrest No, in reality? Oh,
Speaker 2: in reality, I don't know who was Elvis. Oh he's
Speaker 2: dead though, Yes, but that did not stop oh Hulk
Speaker 2: Cokin from claiming years later, Oh no, that during this
Speaker 2: run in Memphis, what did he do among the spectators?
Speaker 3: No, Jimmy.
Speaker 2: No twenty seventeen, Yeah, who knew on the red carpet
Speaker 2: for the Andrea the Giant documentary?
Speaker 7: Come on, I probably would say Elvis Presley.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 2: They asked him who his favorite, who his fantasy tag
Speaker 2: team partner would be if he were to do a
Speaker 2: celebrity tag team, So he says, Elvis.
Speaker 7: You ready, I probably would say Elvis Presley because when
Speaker 7: I first started wrestling, I started going to Memphis. He
Speaker 7: used to come in like the semi main main event,
Speaker 7: right of Harley with a helmet sitting lay up at
Speaker 7: the top of the Mid South Colisseum. I didn't know
Speaker 7: who the hell he was back in those days, you know,
Speaker 7: And I have been the one guy looking back. If
Speaker 7: I would have been aware or no I would have
Speaker 7: known who Elvis Presley was when I was first you
Speaker 7: or how popular it was, that would be the one
Speaker 7: guy loved you had in the ring with me.
Speaker 3: Elvis died in seventy seven, So I'm just saying obviously
Speaker 3: that the historians are wrong and he died. He didn't.
Speaker 3: He died in like nineteen eighty. I'm glad to clarified.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought you were going to say. God
Speaker 3: damn it, I say, I say, I almost caught you there.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine this guy, I mean, I like the
Speaker 3: the the person interviewing him like.
Speaker 12: I.
Speaker 3: They must be going insane when some kind of bullshit
Speaker 3: story like this comes out, because it's such it's so bad.
Speaker 3: It is so bad.
Speaker 2: Why do you think he needs to lie about Elvis
Speaker 2: seeing his matches? I just don't understand it at all.
Speaker 2: It's not like he's at an Elvis premiere. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like he brought up Elvis of one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: people he could bring up, right, what does that do
Speaker 2: for him?
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 2: I bring it up here because Jimmy Hart wrote in
Speaker 2: his book what Elvis was to music, Jerry the King
Speaker 2: Lawler was to wrestling. He was the main event, the
Speaker 2: headliner in the biggest box office office attraction in the territory,
Speaker 2: and he also aspired to be a singer, as I
Speaker 2: found out one day at Sun's studios, Jimmy Hart recalls
Speaker 2: in his book, a guy there came up to me
Speaker 2: and said, Jimmy, Jerry Lawler, the wrestler is going to
Speaker 2: be coming in here. I was excited. I said, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I love wrestling. I've seen him on TV. He'd also
Speaker 2: seen Jerry apparently in high school, but he was a
Speaker 2: couple of years behind Jerry Lawler. And no, Jimmy Hart
Speaker 2: was a couple of years ahead of Jerry Lawler in
Speaker 2: high school, which is which is interesting. Jimmy had always
Speaker 2: loved wrestling, but you know, didn't really ever have a
Speaker 2: chance or an occasion to meet Jerry Lawler and convey
Speaker 2: that to him. Up until this point in time. But
Speaker 2: they came to a record studio called Arden, which is
Speaker 2: a famous Memphis studio where a lot of big name
Speaker 2: groups recorded, and they cut a record together, and it
Speaker 2: was there that Jimmy Hart was able to impress upon
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawlard that not only was he interested in cooperating
Speaker 2: with him on his music career, but that he was
Speaker 2: a big wrestling fan in his own right and it
Speaker 2: was kind of a thrill to meet him. We were
Speaker 2: hanging out at Arden, and the musicians, Jimmy Hart writes,
Speaker 2: being typically musicians at the seventies, started passing around a
Speaker 2: bottle of wine. When it came to me, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't drink. Jerry was sitting next to me,
Speaker 2: so the bottle went to him next, and he said,
Speaker 2: I don't drink either.
Speaker 3: Boss. It's a match made in heaven, don't you know. Yep,
Speaker 3: there it is.
Speaker 2: They also realized they don't smoke, both of them, and
Speaker 2: they talked about playing I realized they don't tell the
Speaker 2: truth and softball. So that's how Jimmy Hart writes, Lawler
Speaker 2: and I made our connection, first in the studio with music,
Speaker 2: then by the fact that neither of us drank or
Speaker 2: smoked pot. That led to weekend softball games with Lawler
Speaker 2: and his buddies. So the Gentries kind of give up
Speaker 2: touring on the road. Memphis is running weekly and on
Speaker 2: the way into town once they drive by the Ramata
Speaker 2: Inn the wrestlers, Jimmy Hart recalls, and that was where
Speaker 2: the Gentries were playing, still playing at the time, and
Speaker 2: eventually those wrestlers started coming in to see the Gentries play,
Speaker 2: and Lawler would lead the pack, building d would comploud,
Speaker 2: Boy Fraser, Jimmy Valliant. It's just exactly like Hogan described
Speaker 2: meeting all these wrestlers because he was playing these clubs
Speaker 2: in Tampa. And this is how Lawler, pardon me, Jimmy
Speaker 2: Hart gets to meet Lawler. One day, he says, Lawler
Speaker 2: came to me and said, Jimmy man, you're out here
Speaker 2: wasting away doing this music. It's great and it's fun
Speaker 2: and all that, but you need to make some real cash.
Speaker 2: I need to get you in professional wrestling. Bells went
Speaker 2: off in my head, so I asked, what have you
Speaker 2: got in mind? What are you doing on Mondays, Tuesdays
Speaker 2: and Wednesdays?
Speaker 3: Not much?
Speaker 2: Well, we're having some trouble promoting summer our towns. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what he'd be about to see. We're having some trouble
Speaker 2: promoting some of our towns. How would you like to
Speaker 2: do some stuff with us? You can still do what
Speaker 2: you're doing at the Ramata, but you can work for
Speaker 2: us the rest of the time, putting up posters and
Speaker 2: doing prom promotion. I'd love to have you. People know
Speaker 2: who you are. I'd like you to come down to
Speaker 2: the matches on Monday night and sit at ringside. I
Speaker 2: think the people would love to see you. So that's
Speaker 2: that and the connection is made before he ever meets Halkogan.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hart was in extremely tight boss with Jerry the
Speaker 2: King Lawler.
Speaker 3: There you go, Jesus. Actually they did a.
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler Jimmy Valiant loser leaves Town match. Jerry lost
Speaker 2: the match, said he was going to retire on television
Speaker 2: and kind of put them in a tough spot with
Speaker 2: that stipulation. He's told people that Jerry Lawler couldn't carry
Speaker 2: a tune if it had handles, but he really did
Speaker 2: have a pretty good voice. As he tries to pursue
Speaker 2: a music career after the lousure Leaves Town match. His image,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hart writes, was the real obstacle to any singing
Speaker 2: success he might have truly hoped for, because as far
Speaker 2: as wrestling fans were concerned, he was still the king
Speaker 2: of Memphis wrestling. He and his partner in the Memphis territory,
Speaker 2: Jerry Jarrett, had simply painted themselves into a corner with
Speaker 2: the loser Leave town angle and wrestling. There are allway
Speaker 2: two sides to every coin. When you boil everything down
Speaker 2: to its essence, you've got a bad guy and a
Speaker 2: good guy, a heel in a baby face. People want
Speaker 2: to see the baby face beat the crap out of
Speaker 2: the heel. It's as simple as that. But you've got
Speaker 2: to have that combination. I don't care if you're all leave.
Speaker 2: You've got somebody the people want to see get their
Speaker 2: butt kicked, and they're not going to give you their
Speaker 2: hard earned money. Nobody's going to come to see you.
Speaker 2: When Lawler first got into the business, he was part
Speaker 2: of the bad guy tag team, so he's basically saying
Speaker 2: that Memphis had trouble making money without Jerry Lawler in
Speaker 2: there to straighten out the bad guys. So as time goes,
Speaker 2: they figure out a way to work everything back in
Speaker 2: because the longer the king was out of action, the
Speaker 2: greater the economic damage the territory was experiencing. So Jerry
Speaker 2: Lawler learns and Jerry Jarrett learns that Lawler cannot take
Speaker 2: hiatuses from this operation without tickets taking a nose dive.
Speaker 2: So apparently it comes down to Jimmy Hart kind of
Speaker 2: saying what he'd like to do is start going around
Speaker 2: the country playing music with the Gentries, and they would
Speaker 2: build it up and let the people know on television
Speaker 2: that they're on tour and basically tell the wrestling audience
Speaker 2: that Jerry Lawler is touring with the Gentries. He's not
Speaker 2: just sitting at home doing nothing. He's pursuing a music career.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So to get that over, Jimmy Hart has to appear
Speaker 2: on Memphis television. He goes down a Channel five for
Speaker 2: the weekly live wrestling show. Lance Russell says, coming out.
Speaker 2: Now you know him from the Gentries. He's had some big,
Speaker 2: big records around town here, Jimmy Hart.
Speaker 3: So Jimmy comes out hand.
Speaker 2: He says, I know you're out here to make a
Speaker 2: special announcement. Jimmy, I said, yes, I am whether you're
Speaker 2: like Jerry Lawler or whether you hate him. This coming
Speaker 2: Monday at the Mid South Coliseum, you're going to see
Speaker 2: the King in concert with the Gentries. So you go
Speaker 2: to Mid South Colosseum. Jerry Lawler's back in the coliseum,
Speaker 2: but not to wrestle. That's how they get around it.
Speaker 2: He lost a loser release town match. He has to
Speaker 2: leave as a wrestler, but he can sure his hell
Speaker 2: come back to the building as a musician, boss, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, so, I guess he can. He
Speaker 2: can move some tickets that way. And so they're doing
Speaker 2: Keep On Dancing the hit song, and that's when Jimmy
Speaker 2: Valiant approaches him from the back and knocks his guitar
Speaker 2: player down, picks up one and bust it over laws head.
Speaker 2: And so that is the angle that brings him back
Speaker 2: in Wow. So we have Jimmy Hart getting involved in
Speaker 2: Memphis wrestling the year before Terry Bullia gets there, and
Speaker 2: not only involved, but involved in the top program with
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler. Of course, Lawler got involved in wrestling because
Speaker 2: of Jackie Fargo, who you heard mentioned on one of
Speaker 2: those card reads by Lance Russell. Jackie Fargo was the
Speaker 2: biggest star in Memphis wrestling before Jerry Lawler, and discovered
Speaker 2: Lawler when they were working together at a radio station. Well, well,
Speaker 2: Lawler was working at a radio station and he noticed
Speaker 2: that Lawler restoring caricatures of the wrestlers and encouraged Lawler
Speaker 2: to get in the business. Lawler went on Memphis television
Speaker 2: to display his artwork and that was kind of the
Speaker 2: first introduction. So the Memphis wrestling fans really got to
Speaker 2: see Jerry Lawler grow up as a kid as kind
Speaker 2: of one of them as a wrestling fan sure mentally
Speaker 2: takes s the endorsement of Jackie Fargo. Lawler, just like Hogan,
Speaker 2: goes to Alabama.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 2: People forget this. He was in the Alabama Territory, which
Speaker 2: he just started up in Montgomery and was run by
Speaker 2: Bill Golden Roy Walsh, son in law. This is around
Speaker 2: seventy two and as time goes, Jerry Jarrett takes over
Speaker 2: calls Jimmy Hart one day and says, Jimmy, I love
Speaker 2: your music and the music he did for Lawler, can
Speaker 2: you cut a video for us on Jimmy Valiant And
Speaker 2: it was it was set to it was called Son
Speaker 2: of a Gypsy and it was a very famous video,
Speaker 2: and then it kind of set the whole personality for
Speaker 2: Jimmy Valliant, I believe, before he came to the territory,
Speaker 2: and it led to a lot of anticipation in ticket
Speaker 2: sales to see him wrestle in Memphis. And so the
Speaker 2: formula was taking shape for Jerry Jarrett where he would
Speaker 2: use music videos or the vignettes like we've seen to
Speaker 2: introduce a guy before he came in and realize greater returns.
Speaker 2: As Jimmy Hart writes in his book, if it weren't
Speaker 2: for that video, I probably wouldn't be in wrestling today.
Speaker 2: And there's back and forth between Jimmy and between Jerry
Speaker 2: Jarrett and Jerry Lawler where Jimmy kind of ends up
Speaker 2: in the middle of some of it, and the video
Speaker 2: and the fact that he had it turned out to
Speaker 2: be some key points of leverage to keep him involved.
Speaker 2: But as time goes, Uh, Hulk Cogan comes in and
Speaker 2: because Jerry would pardon me, because Jimmy Hart would absolutely,
Speaker 2: you know, assign all of his fortunes to hul Cogan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and truly attach himself to that gravy train.
Speaker 3: By the time I think admit that I fucking but
Speaker 3: your mind, brother, your mind, own your ass, dude.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely that's the case. So he he's going on
Speaker 2: and on about Hulk Cogan now because he's got a
Speaker 2: book out and he doesn't really care about Jerry Lawler anymore.
Speaker 3: He's framing.
Speaker 2: He's the I choose to say that Jimmy Hart's telling
Speaker 2: the truth about how Jerry Lawler really felt about Hulk.
Speaker 2: I think Jerry fits in the same category as Mike
Speaker 2: and Eddie Graham, as Jerry Brisco, as Rupe and anybody
Speaker 2: else who didn't push Terry Boulder immediately in seventy seven.
Speaker 3: Dusty Rhodes.
Speaker 2: He can't put run Fuller in this category because you know,
Speaker 2: he was the guy to just say, you know, I
Speaker 2: need stars, Let's put this guy over all our top guys.
Speaker 2: He can wrestle Andreo, It's get him out there, right.
Speaker 2: But Lawler, I think, despite the fact that as we
Speaker 2: just saw, was sharing the ring with Hulk in the
Speaker 2: earliest days as a tag team partner, definitely didn't see
Speaker 2: the Hulk Hogan biggest superstar of all time in the
Speaker 2: history of the business when he had him right under
Speaker 2: his thumb, and Jimmy Hart as the allegiance he shook
Speaker 2: out over the decades, was able to call a spade
Speaker 2: a spade in that regard. In his book, So Boss,
Speaker 2: I've furnished you Now after having gone through the sort
Speaker 2: of origin story of Jimmy Hart getting into the business
Speaker 2: in Memphis, here he is commenting on the dynamic of
Speaker 2: Terry Boulder coming to Memphis and what he saw.
Speaker 3: VI's Iffy. Jerry Lawler I first met and managed Hulk
Speaker 3: Hogan back in Memphis. Terry Lawler and I were in
Speaker 3: the middle of one of our big feuds, and I
Speaker 3: was bringing in whomever I could get my hands on
Speaker 3: to knock Lawler off his pedestal and generally make his
Speaker 3: life miserable. It was all part of a running storyline
Speaker 3: where every week Lawler would beat one of my guys
Speaker 3: and then say, next week, Hart, I'm going to get
Speaker 3: my hands on you. But of course I'd bring in
Speaker 3: another unstoppable object. Yeah, yes, I love those unstoppable objects
Speaker 3: to protect myself. The following Saturday, usually and imposing heel
Speaker 3: who wrestled for another promotion. Back then, the Monday Night
Speaker 3: Extravaganza in the Mid South Colisseum was our big show.
Speaker 3: Most of the smaller promotions were quiet on that day,
Speaker 3: so Jared or Lawler could pick up the phone and
Speaker 3: call Florida or even New York because all the territories
Speaker 3: were small then and work out a deal to share talent.
Speaker 3: It was a good arrangement for everyone. We had access
Speaker 3: to a lot of wrestlers, and because they wanted to
Speaker 3: make the extra payoff, they'd happily come to us on
Speaker 3: off nights. So I'd bring in Terry Funk and Lawler
Speaker 3: would beat him. Next out unveil Dori Funk and Lawler
Speaker 3: would beat him too. Nick Bockwinkle, Ken Peterra, Jack brisco
Speaker 3: Jerry I cannot imagine and that he beat all these people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, at least not in a real way.
Speaker 3: Maybe by his qualification or something, but not in real way, right,
Speaker 3: Ken PETERA, Jack Briscoe, Jerry Brisco, King Kong Bunny, Jessie
Speaker 3: the Body Ventura. One after they, one after the other,
Speaker 3: they'd come and the result was pretty much the same.
Speaker 3: Lawler would somehow get the better of my guys and me.
Speaker 3: This went on for years and we drew great crowds.
Speaker 3: Hul Cogan was working for Verne Gagnese Minneapolis based. Aw
Speaker 3: what okay, I mean this is later?
Speaker 2: Yeah he's talking about Yes he's okay, Yes he is.
Speaker 2: He's talking about like.
Speaker 3: Eighty okay, because this is like I was. I was
Speaker 3: getting all fucking like, what the fuck? Hul Cogan was
Speaker 3: working for Verne Gagney's Minneapolis based a w A at
Speaker 3: the time, and he was also doing some work as
Speaker 3: a heel for the w WE. And yes, Hulk was
Speaker 3: one of those people we brought in to fight Lawler.
Speaker 3: I was in his corner. But I knew about Hulk
Speaker 3: even before he was brought into Face the King, before
Speaker 3: there ever was a Hulk Hogan, and before I'd really
Speaker 3: gotten into wrestling. I was still doing music with the Gentries,
Speaker 3: but I had met and struck up a friendship with Lawler,
Speaker 3: so I was still pretty much coming to the Mid
Speaker 3: South Colisseum as a fan. Lawler had given me carte blanche, though,
Speaker 3: and I could hang around backstage and watch and learn.
Speaker 3: At the time, the Gentries had just finished a Dick
Speaker 3: Clark tour and I went down to the coliseum on
Speaker 3: a Monday night to unwind. In those days, there were
Speaker 3: two doors that the wrestlers would make their ring entrances.
Speaker 3: From I would stand on the baby face side. There
Speaker 3: was a big mesh screen that you could look through
Speaker 3: that could be opened up to bring chairs or props through.
Speaker 3: It was from there that I saw a guy named
Speaker 3: Terry Boulet enter the ring for the first time. I
Speaker 3: think he was called Terry Boulder then, because he and
Speaker 3: ed Leslie later known as Brudus the Barbara Beefcake were
Speaker 3: tacking up as the Bolder brothers.
Speaker 2: So we have air of the setup. So while later,
Speaker 2: while you know, being a heel wrestling manager and recruiting
Speaker 2: people to fight Jerry Lawler, he would see Hulkogan in
Speaker 2: his involvement with verne Gania. It goes back to seventy
Speaker 2: nine here where Terry's coming in with Eddie. But at
Speaker 2: that time Jimmy Hart isn't really in the wrestling business.
Speaker 2: He had met Jerry Lawler, he had made appearances in
Speaker 2: the mid South colisseum on wrestling cards as a musician,
Speaker 2: and he was probably already starting to help with some
Speaker 2: promotion of some towns at Jerry Lawler's urging. But he
Speaker 2: for purposes of the kind of matches we're watching this time,
Speaker 2: it is just in the crowd as a fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ed was on the card that night too, but
Speaker 3: they were fighting as singles. Anyway, Lawler and I were
Speaker 3: standing there behind the mesh screen watching a match when
Speaker 3: Lawler said, what do you think of that big, old
Speaker 3: blonde guy in the ring there? I said, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: he's great. Look how big he is. He's unbelievable. To that,
Speaker 3: listen to the fans pop. Coming from a musical background
Speaker 3: and maybe being more entertainment wise, I wasn't just thinking
Speaker 3: about how accomplished a guy was in the ring. I
Speaker 3: was reacting viscerally to who got the biggest pop, the
Speaker 3: best crowd response, and to who looked the most impressive,
Speaker 3: who people really talked about. Even back then, you could
Speaker 3: see Hulk was going to be a major star. Well,
Speaker 3: Jerry shook his head and said, that big guy he
Speaker 3: asked me to manage him. I have a chance to
Speaker 3: sign him to a contract. I said, man, gosh, I
Speaker 3: hope you take him up on it. He's going to
Speaker 3: be a superstar. After all, he was three d three
Speaker 3: hundred pounds and stood six foot six. Are you crazy?
Speaker 3: Lawler said, that guy will never draw you a diamond
Speaker 3: professional wrestling. He doesn't have what it takes lock. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to this day, every time I see Lawler, I say,
Speaker 3: you should have listened to me in Siginholt cocumat every time,
Speaker 3: every time he sees him doesn't get annoying.
Speaker 10: Yo.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine like every fucking time, I'd want to
Speaker 3: kill Jimmy Hart. He denies the conversation ever took place,
Speaker 3: but I know the truth. Say it again, he denies
Speaker 3: the conversation never took place, but I know the truth.
Speaker 2: If you are, if your list, if your name is
Speaker 2: on the list of people who said about Terry Boley,
Speaker 2: he'll never draw a dime in wrestling, especially when you
Speaker 2: saw the crowds he did with Andre and Harley in
Speaker 2: Alabama and presumably brought him in for that reason. Maybe
Speaker 2: not the Harley crowd yet, but still, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: just your credibility is someone that knows how to spot
Speaker 2: a star in pro wrestling goes to the bottom of
Speaker 2: the bucket, in my opinion. And it's not even it's
Speaker 2: it's so two faced because in saying that, yet look
Speaker 2: at the way he was.
Speaker 3: Featured, right, I mean, this is the thing, like, it's
Speaker 3: so bizarre that anyone says anything like this, because Lawler
Speaker 3: clearly knew what he was doing with Hulkgan. It's it's obvious.
Speaker 2: Sitting there doodling and trying to draw, you know, marketable
Speaker 2: caricatures of the guy in the programs.
Speaker 3: If he didn't believe in him, he wouldn't have fucking
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have managed him, he wouldn't been wrestling with him,
Speaker 3: he would have been seen with him. You don't do
Speaker 3: that unless you know the guy's gonna be fucking money.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, the only reason I like. Honestly, my
Speaker 3: first reaction when seeing Lawler kind of get all buddy
Speaker 3: buddy with this with Hogan is holy shit, he's Dusty
Speaker 3: rhoadesing this guy. Yes, he realizes that Hogan's a bigger
Speaker 3: star than he'll ever be.
Speaker 2: And I think we're starting to get to the thesis
Speaker 2: when someone in the business in his early years says
Speaker 2: he'll never draw a dime in wrestling, what they mean
Speaker 2: is I am horrified that he will draw a dime
Speaker 2: in wrestling, because it's one thing to bring him in
Speaker 2: and get a little bit of more rub and a little
Speaker 2: bit of a you know, excitement around me because I'm
Speaker 2: associating myself with this huge guy that you know brings
Speaker 2: people in. But once I realize that his appeal actually
Speaker 2: runs deeper than just come see this big, hulking monster,
Speaker 2: that he actually has some innate charisma that can carry
Speaker 2: you to the top and pro wrestling regardless of your
Speaker 2: ring ability. Once they realize he's got that extra component
Speaker 2: to his game, all of a sudden, he ain't shit,
Speaker 2: he's not ready. All of a sudden, he doesn't deserve
Speaker 2: to be at the Ford Homer Hesterly, Baby.
Speaker 3: I mean you look, he just he You know, if
Speaker 3: he couldn't draw a dime, then I don't know what
Speaker 3: the fuck could because you watch him and he looked spectacular.
Speaker 2: And he already drew you a dime at the South Colosseum.
Speaker 2: He just read the clippings and what did you do
Speaker 2: after he came in? And may you brought him back
Speaker 2: with a super push teaming with Jerry Lawler and six
Speaker 2: man tag main events. I can get if you weren't
Speaker 2: into Eddie Boulder from that limited clip. We just saw
Speaker 2: the limitations were real and he looked rather foolish in
Speaker 2: the ring. But yep, I'm sorry if you if you
Speaker 2: work yourself into letting Hulk Hogan slip through your fingers
Speaker 2: without making millions of dollars off the guy. I know
Speaker 2: who to blame it, It's not Terry Boleya, Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2: How does Heart continue his thoughts here? Why did Lawler
Speaker 2: feel that the way he did about Hulk Hogan. You'd assume,
Speaker 2: being as successful as as he's been through the years,
Speaker 2: he would have been the first to see hulks potential.
Speaker 2: But Lawler was the king of Memphis then, and Terry
Speaker 2: Boleya was the man from nowhere. Every territory had its
Speaker 2: king in those days. Du't Se Rhodes was a superstar
Speaker 2: in Floorida. The Funks reigned supreme in Texas. But the
Speaker 2: big old blonde boy, Bleego blonde guy was just getting
Speaker 2: into the business and had yet to build a strong base.
Speaker 2: He was working out of Pensacola, Florida, and was still
Speaker 2: learning his craft. I don't think any of wrestling's veteran
Speaker 2: stars really knew what the future held. Lawler couldn't see
Speaker 2: how Big Hulk was going to be, But with my
Speaker 2: pop savvy perspective and objectivity, I just knew.
Speaker 3: So. So Jimmy Hart's the reason hul Cogan's the fucking
Speaker 3: superstar he is. Of course, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Everybody saw a star in Hulk before anybody else.
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, everybody who whenever you read somebody's book, they're
Speaker 3: the one who knew hul Cogan was going to be
Speaker 3: the fucking guy, but everybody else didn't. Then when you
Speaker 3: read one of those guys books, they're the one who
Speaker 3: fucking knew that Hulk Hogan was gonna be the guy
Speaker 3: and everybody else didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, we can say that Hulk definitely poached the mind
Speaker 2: of Jimmy Hart from the Memphis Circle. Memphis would not
Speaker 2: be the beneficiary for much longer of Jimmy Hart's unique genius.
Speaker 2: It would end up inuring to the benefit of Hulk
Speaker 2: Hogan as he brings in you know, once Hulk gets
Speaker 2: in at WWF, Jimmy comes right after him. He puts
Speaker 2: the call out basically, you know, and Jimmy's got a spot.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, all the whole crew. We're starting to realize
Speaker 2: how all those connections are being made. In the earliest
Speaker 2: of days.
Speaker 3: Hulk hadn't developed his character back then, and he'd yet
Speaker 3: to become entirely comfortable on the mic. He was able
Speaker 3: to talk some, but he was still green, still learning
Speaker 3: the subtleties of the business. He hadn't really even begun
Speaker 3: to work the crowd yet, but then again, he didn't
Speaker 3: really have to. When the fans saw him, they just reacted.
Speaker 3: He was just so big and he had that look,
Speaker 3: all that natural charisma. Sometimes you can watch a horse
Speaker 3: out in the field and just know whether or not
Speaker 3: it can win the Kentucky Derby. I knew Hulk Hogan
Speaker 3: was definitely a thoroughbread.
Speaker 2: A thoroughbread he was. We'll stop that rare put a
Speaker 2: pin in that one as complete. Hulk Cogan continues to unfold.
Speaker 2: A Thoroughbread has been identified by none other than Jimmy Hart.
Speaker 2: We're about to get to the point where Hogan and
Speaker 2: Lawler have their match in eighty one that ends up
Speaker 2: on the famous Wrestling Gold Tape. But before we get
Speaker 2: to that part of the leg of the journey, which
Speaker 2: will be the focus of our next episode, let's return
Speaker 2: here quickly to some of the clippings if we can,
Speaker 2: and ride this one out. July twenty fourth, seventy nine
Speaker 2: Pro Wrestling, Louisville Gardens. This is July twenty fourth, six
Speaker 2: Man tag Wayne Ferris, Larry Latham and Sergeant Davis versus
Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler, Building and Jackie Fargo, The Hulk and Eddie
Speaker 2: Boulder and the Semi Maine against Ron Bass and Pete Austen.
Speaker 2: Also Terry Gordy and Michael Hayes on the card against
Speaker 2: Steve Rigal and Dick Morton. Forward ahead, and there it
Speaker 2: is again. This time apparently Lawler has taken his pen
Speaker 2: to the Hulk logo with a bit of a different architecture.
Speaker 2: It's definitely more of like a stone wall type, look
Speaker 2: like a stonehenge, stacked stone instead of a cracked thing.
Speaker 2: It says, beware the Hulk. And there is Terry with
Speaker 2: the mushroom cloud shaved into his chest, the bomber shades
Speaker 2: the black sun sideburns putting out a big bicep pose.
Speaker 3: Terry Boulder Hulk signed by the way that's outside signed,
Speaker 3: I would signed, Yes, this is Terry Boulder Hulk. Another
Speaker 3: Evansville program from Wednesday, July twenty fifth, where the Hulk,
Speaker 3: h Ulk and All Caps and Eddie Boulder is listed,
Speaker 3: is taking on Ron Bass and Pete Austin. Here's the
Speaker 3: commercial appeal Memphis Sunday July twenty ninth, seventy nine is
Speaker 3: the Summer of the Boulders continues. This time it's Jarrett
Speaker 3: Wrestling Company presenting wrestling Monday, July thirtieth at the colissee
Speaker 3: him and as mentioned before Boss there he is main
Speaker 3: event AWA World Champion Nick bockwin Wild coming through, so
Speaker 3: you can start to see where some of that connective
Speaker 3: tissue to Verne might come from. Nick Bockwinkle comes in
Speaker 3: to wrestle Bill Dundee and right on the under card
Speaker 3: for the Southern Heavyweight title, which is the belt that
Speaker 3: he had since gone back. I think to Alabama to
Speaker 3: win or what Ron Bass was the champion. Either way,
Speaker 3: it's Hulk vers Ron Bass, the Hulk vers Ron Bass.
Speaker 3: So I consider this like the first the first encounter
Speaker 3: between the AWA office and Terry Bolea. Here is sure
Speaker 3: Bawkwinkle comes in to defend hit him with what the
Speaker 3: commercial Appeal had to say. In July thirty first Champ
Speaker 3: Champs hold on to titles. Nick Bockwinkle retained his AWA
Speaker 3: World Heavyweight title by defeating Bill Dundee before a crowd
Speaker 3: of seven, six and eighteen in last night's main wrestling
Speaker 3: event in the mid South Colisseum. In another title bout
Speaker 3: Ron Bass held his AWA title, winning over the Hulk
Speaker 3: Terry Boulders.
Speaker 2: But Bass getting the win there, I don't know the print,
Speaker 2: Dad says Southern Heavyweight title, and I don't think the
Speaker 2: AWA had a Southern heavy.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think so at all.
Speaker 3: Wrestling champs win. The defending champs came out on top
Speaker 3: at the Colisseum last night before a crowd of eighteen,
Speaker 3: so two hundred more than the commercial appeal acclaimed National
Speaker 3: Heavyweight Wrestling Champ. National Heavyweight Wrestling Champ Nick Bockwinkle retained
Speaker 3: his aw a crown beating Bill Superstar Dundee and Southern
Speaker 3: jamp Ron Bass held his title. Kept this title in
Speaker 3: a match with Terry the Hulk Boulder.
Speaker 2: There it is We move ahead to Lexi, Kentucky, August second,
Speaker 2: seventy nine as the summer continues to unfold. Here's professional
Speaker 2: wrestling at the Rap Arena in Lexican, Kentucky, Thursday, August second,
Speaker 2: with an eight pm bell time. And there he is
Speaker 2: off to the right in his black singlet with the
Speaker 2: double bicep bows. The Hulk off to the left. Look
Speaker 2: at him Jerry Jarrett, the precocious young baby face fresh
Speaker 2: Face ready to go. The main event that night was
Speaker 2: six man tag as Jerry Lawler team with Bildende and
Speaker 2: Jerry Jarrett to take on the team of Wayne Ferris,
Speaker 2: Larry Latham and Sergeant Davis and the kofeatured his Ron
Speaker 2: bass In, Pete Austin versus The Hulk and Eddie Boulder,
Speaker 2: with the Freebirds in action as well. Moving ahead from
Speaker 2: the Rupp Arena, we go to Blitheville, Arkansas. Newspaper on
Speaker 2: August third, seventy nine lists world's Greatest Professional Wrestling. It's
Speaker 2: going to be Friday, August third and American Legion Hall.
Speaker 2: That's a big promise. Three dollars general admission tickets Man
Speaker 2: Dirt cheap to see the main event of The Hulk
Speaker 2: and Randy Taylor versus Ron Bass and Pete Austin.
Speaker 3: Slighty Bowlder's already out of the fucking picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, so Coco Ware also in the card. This one
Speaker 2: brought to you by the American Legion, the Hulk, not
Speaker 2: Terry Boulder. The Hulk being advertised. Here's a clipping from
Speaker 2: Wrestling Data where apparently there was a two on one
Speaker 2: Haiticap match where Hulgan is listed as not as Terry
Speaker 2: the Hulk Boulder, not as the Hulk, but as the
Speaker 2: Magnificent Hulk. Okay, I'm not sure if maybe for a
Speaker 2: period of time he went by the Magnificent Hulk, but
Speaker 2: that's another Chattanooga match that survives in the listings. Here's
Speaker 2: the commercial appeal from August fifth, seventy nine. Jarrett Wrestling
Speaker 2: Company presents Wrestling Monday, August sixth, mid South Colosseum eight PM.
Speaker 2: Main event for the Southern tag titles is Wayne Ferris
Speaker 2: and Larry Latham with Sergeant Davis in their corner take
Speaker 2: on Bildun d and Jerry Lawler. Co feature Ron Bass
Speaker 2: and Sonny King, this time teaming together instead of Pete
Speaker 2: Austin taking on the Hulk and Jackie Fargo.
Speaker 3: Think about that.
Speaker 2: Wow, The Hulk teaming with the original Memphis Legend the
Speaker 2: Freebirds Gordy and Hayes against Steve Rigalan Dallas Montgomery on
Speaker 2: the card. Further down, Eddie Bowlder in singles action now
Speaker 2: so sort of cleaved off from the Hulk taking on
Speaker 2: Pete Austen one on one. The commercial appeal, as always
Speaker 2: has our coverage Boss on Tuesday morning, August seventh, What
Speaker 2: did the People wake up to? His first the matches last.
Speaker 3: Night, Wayne Ferris and Lara laithe and retained their Southern
Speaker 3: tag team title by defeating Rick Morton and Bill Dundee
Speaker 3: before a crowd of forty nine. In last night's wrestling
Speaker 3: action at the Mid South Coliseum and other bouts, Tommy
Speaker 3: and Eddie Gilbert won over bub Smith and Bo Taylor,
Speaker 3: Dallas Montgomery Up and Ken Wayne. Eddie Bowler was victorious
Speaker 3: over Pete Austin. The Hulk and Jackie Fargo teamed to
Speaker 3: beat Ron Bass and Sonny King, and Terry Gordy and
Speaker 3: Michael Hayes won by this qualification over Steve Riegal and
Speaker 3: Handsome Jimmy Valiant.
Speaker 2: Connection there bildun d who would be back front office
Speaker 2: at w CW, and Hogan came in ninety four as
Speaker 2: Sir William the Butler to ah, yes, that's so another
Speaker 2: future connection being established here. Flash forward It's seventh, seventy
Speaker 2: nine Pro Wrestling to the Louisville Gardens seven Southern Heavyweight
Speaker 2: title in the main event, the Hulk versus Ron Bass.
Speaker 2: So Hulk getting title shots now in the Territory Southern
Speaker 2: Tag title under that with Jerry Jarrett and Jackie Fargo
Speaker 2: teaming up as challengers against the champs, Wayne Ferris and
Speaker 2: Larry Latham, plus a back alley brawl between Buddy Wayne
Speaker 2: and Tommy Gilbert, Handsome Jimmy Valian versus Pete Austin, and yes,
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder again in singles action versus Ken Wayne. Moving
Speaker 2: ahead to pro Wrestling in Evansville on Wednesday, August eighth
Speaker 2: of seventy nine, the main event was again the Southern
Speaker 2: Heavyweight Championship, Ron Bass versus The Hulk, the free Birds
Speaker 2: in Action, and Eddie Boulder versus Pete Austin. And this
Speaker 2: is the most infringing one I could find, or anyone
Speaker 2: could find. August ninth, seventy nine, Tupelow, Mississippi. Look at
Speaker 2: that illustration.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I mean it's okay, So it's Hogan, okay,
Speaker 3: and he's but he's got the ripped off knees. And
Speaker 3: then I mean, they don't they don't even look at it.
Speaker 3: It says the Incredible Hulk is coming.
Speaker 2: It says the Incredible Hulk is coming in the exact
Speaker 2: font that they would use in the Marvel comics right
Speaker 2: above his head.
Speaker 3: And you've got Hogan and and he's got the torn
Speaker 3: he's got no shirt and the torn pants and bare
Speaker 3: feet like the Hulk would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the most over the top one. This
Speaker 2: is the one where I saw it and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: Like this is why he didn't want to talk too
Speaker 2: much about this time period, because they went way over
Speaker 2: the top, using Marvel to sell tickets, and yeah, to
Speaker 2: put him in jeans that are ripped off at the
Speaker 2: knees like he hulked up like Lufa Rigno did.
Speaker 3: Like rip barefoot. I mean, he looks just like the comic.
Speaker 2: It really is ripped off the picture of the comic
Speaker 2: and put Terry Bulay's head on. It is what exactly
Speaker 2: they did here, and this is advertising Tomorrow night and
Speaker 2: every Friday wrestling in Tupelow. Tomorrow Night's card was to
Speaker 2: be run bass In Pete Austin versus The Hulk and
Speaker 2: Eddie Boulder in the main event, as well as Hans
Speaker 2: Schroeder and the Gestapo versus Jerry Jarrett and Eddie Marlin
Speaker 2: and Randy Tyler versus the Hangman. So that was out
Speaker 2: in the Tupelo part of the circle. But that's it
Speaker 2: right there that I don't know who drew that. It
Speaker 2: had to be Jerry Lawler yep, way over the top.
Speaker 2: Commerciala Peel has coverage of some results here. Boss August fourteenth,
Speaker 2: seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Ron Bass retained his Southern Heavyweight Championship at the Mid
Speaker 3: South Colisseum last night when he titled bout with Terry
Speaker 3: the Hulk Boulder was stopped and declared no contest before
Speaker 3: a crowd of five nine seven and other bouts on
Speaker 3: the card. Pete Austin beat Jerry Bryant, Bill Dundee and
Speaker 3: Rick Morton, m R. T I N one over Hans
Speaker 3: Schroeder and the Gestapo Rick Motrin, Yeah right, Wayne Ferris,
Speaker 3: Larry Latham downed, Tommy and Eddie Gilbert retain their seventh
Speaker 3: and tag team crown and Handsome Jimmy Valliant beat Terry
Speaker 3: Gordy and Michael Hayes. Yes so he beat them both
Speaker 3: apparently himself. Great coverage, Great coverage and the Scimitar who
Speaker 3: he doesn't like this headline not at all. Hulk misses
Speaker 3: on title shot. Terry the Hulk Boulder missed his try
Speaker 3: for the Southern Heavyweight Wrestling title last night at the Coliseum.
Speaker 3: When the match went with champ Ron Bass was stopped
Speaker 3: and declared no contest. Tommy and De Gil but also
Speaker 3: failed in their effort against the Southern Tag Team champions
Speaker 3: Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham. In another feature match, Handsome
Speaker 3: Jimmy Valiant, back after an absence of several months, beat
Speaker 3: Terry Gordy and Michael Hayes, Bill Dundee and Rick Morton
Speaker 3: McGain same spelling beat Hans Schroeder and the Gestapo, while
Speaker 3: Pete Austin pinned Jerry Bryant. A crowd of five thousand,
Speaker 3: nine hundred and seven watched the action. They agree on
Speaker 3: the on the crowd for the first time. Yep, we've
Speaker 3: seen so flash forward. Here's how some of the television
Speaker 3: promotion would have sounded for this Hult cog and Ron
Speaker 3: Bass title swing hitting the circuit three to one.
Speaker 6: Old that turned out to be no contest. It seems
Speaker 6: the referee was rendered unconscious about halfway through it and
Speaker 6: they'll probably try again some other week.
Speaker 2: So that was coverage in Action Sports five, So if
Speaker 2: you watch your six o'clock news WMCTV Sports five, they
Speaker 2: would result. They would report out the wrestling results.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: They were legit things, so there was no footage of
Speaker 2: the match. It just it was a graphic that' said
Speaker 2: the Hulk versus on Bass. But they're a little bit
Speaker 2: more color as to how the Hulk Bass matches were
Speaker 2: playing out with the referee was dinged in, thus the
Speaker 2: whole thing thrown out as a no contest. Flash forward
Speaker 2: another bid. Here's some more promotional ephemera that had been
Speaker 2: autographed over the years. Terry Boulder kind of a glamour
Speaker 2: shot there, and that we're left from the Arrival Gardens programs.
Speaker 2: Flash forward from there, here's an ad of wrestling Friday Night,
Speaker 2: August seventeenth of seventy nine at the Sports Arena at
Speaker 2: the corner of the Clark Broadway tup below Misissippi main
Speaker 2: event Ron Bass and Sunny King versus Terry and Eddie Boulder.
Speaker 2: And there it is Hulk's picture with Hulk and the
Speaker 2: Marvel font right above his head continuing shapelessly. Yep, we're
Speaker 2: don't have to read that. We can flash forward from
Speaker 2: here to some more posters and such the action programs,
Speaker 2: and there's one if Terry Boulder autographed Hulk as well,
Speaker 2: with him with the shades on, pointing almost like Uncle Sam.
Speaker 2: At the uh yeah yep caption reads as much, does
Speaker 2: the Hulk remind you with the old I want you
Speaker 2: Uncle Sam posters? He should because he wants something too.
Speaker 2: He wants the championship belt now worn by Ron Bass,
Speaker 2: and what Hulk wants he gets. So it's interesting he's
Speaker 2: going after the Southern title in Alabama with Austin Idol
Speaker 2: and switching that around the fall of seventy nine, but
Speaker 2: before that, in the summer of seventy nine, he's going
Speaker 2: back and forth with Ron Bass for the championship, the
Speaker 2: Southern Championship in Memphis. So it's it seems like Memphis
Speaker 2: was the first territory to give him kind of a
Speaker 2: title shot, and that is something Ron Fuller said in
Speaker 2: his podcast about why Terry Boulder kind of soured a bed,
Speaker 2: and Fuller kind of blames Louis Tillette for not nipping
Speaker 2: this in the butt earlier that Terry really wanted, I guess,
Speaker 2: the vote of confidence from the Office of Wearing the
Speaker 2: championship and wasn't getting that and felt like that was
Speaker 2: kind of a ding on him and kind of an
Speaker 2: indication that his upside was capped over there if they
Speaker 2: weren't willing to put the belt on him or put
Speaker 2: him in title matches. So apparently he goes to Memphis
Speaker 2: in the summer and starts having matches with Ron Bash
Speaker 2: for the championship, and then soon enough is coming back
Speaker 2: to Alabama and challenging Austin Idel as well. Here is
Speaker 2: the August twenty fifth, nineteen seventy nine Memphis television show
Speaker 2: Dave Brown here in studio. This is another brief bit
Speaker 2: of promotion for the time that Terry Bolla was in
Speaker 2: the soup down there. We can hit play in three
Speaker 2: to one?
Speaker 10: Does get to win? All right? I want to take
Speaker 10: a look at some action which occurred at the Memphis
Speaker 10: mids Off Coliseum last week Sonny King, last week Kerry
Speaker 10: Terry Boulder the big Hulk at six seven three twenty pounds.
Speaker 3: Terry Boulder, the big Hulk. Right now, big leg, drop leg,
Speaker 3: drop blue singlet a Hulk is resting Sunny King and
Speaker 3: strutting around that rain. Yeah, he's warming up the fist
Speaker 3: for the crowd in the nuts yep, and he lands
Speaker 3: in the Who's like Dusty.
Speaker 6: Sonny hits the deck again.
Speaker 3: Look at him commanding the rain. Brother the elbow, but
Speaker 3: down Brother.
Speaker 6: Ray Paul Martin.
Speaker 3: There's a body slam the front back, but.
Speaker 2: That's precursor to the bear hug cover though Boulder got
Speaker 2: a wand too.
Speaker 6: That's all.
Speaker 3: King kicked out. Due can kick him out.
Speaker 2: No, it's not that bad, and he's like conducting himself
Speaker 2: is fine. Oh, Sonny King bounces off the canvas like
Speaker 2: he's a grasshopper with a head button.
Speaker 3: Holder.
Speaker 2: Slow to build back to his feet, but he gets there.
Speaker 2: Sonny King does as well, and the red hands flying
Speaker 2: from Sonny King.
Speaker 6: Right hand shot from sonnyhead.
Speaker 2: Butt clucks down Boulder.
Speaker 3: Yep, coco butt. Oh there it is, of course a
Speaker 3: slam the way it goes up for a clean slam
Speaker 3: with delay. And now Eddie, Eddie Bowler the Haulk's brother.
Speaker 6: I missed it somewhere, he's telling her.
Speaker 2: Distracted by Eddie. Danny Davis drops a knee, but I
Speaker 2: think he landed on King by mistake.
Speaker 3: He did. Eddie gets in, takes care of Davis, Hulk
Speaker 3: covers stunning King and gets the wind.
Speaker 14: Wow, Davis nailed King with a helmet.
Speaker 6: The Hawk bakes a pen. His brother Eddie was trying
Speaker 6: to tell the referee that Sonny had gone to his
Speaker 6: tights absolutely jumped off the ropes. The hawk was out
Speaker 6: of the way.
Speaker 14: Hit Sonny King with a helmet Ben.
Speaker 6: Eight minutes, fifty eight seconds. The winner is going to
Speaker 6: be Terry Bowler.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hall where.
Speaker 10: And that's it Edny.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's it there and the win we're going to
Speaker 3: be the whole gets the win.
Speaker 10: Boy, you're right here, just the moment, stay with.
Speaker 3: It, Y'll be able. We're gonna be right back with
Speaker 3: more wrestling action here. Yeah, we're gonna be back here,
Speaker 3: more wrestling action here. We get that Terry Boulder with
Speaker 3: the win there links to his brother and a bunch
Speaker 3: of bullshit action going on there.
Speaker 2: And then August twenty fifth, it continues the Hulk and
Speaker 2: Tommy Gilbert versus Pete Austin and Buddy Wayne commented in
Speaker 2: studio by Dave Brown. And I'm trying to remember who
Speaker 2: joins him here. We'll get that in just a second play.
Speaker 10: Okay, we got more wrestling action coming up right now.
Speaker 10: As a matter of fact, let's uh get the bell
Speaker 10: wrong and get it underway. See one of the teams
Speaker 10: taking their appearance. Okay, thanks Eddie, that's.
Speaker 3: A Eddie Marlin. The promotional party. Jerry Judges up in
Speaker 3: the ring right now, Howard.
Speaker 2: Studio instead of the Mid South Colosseum.
Speaker 10: Question too.
Speaker 3: I want to tell you an in studio appearance, and
Speaker 3: Holt's gonna look even bigger.
Speaker 10: Here officially with the introduction at a total weight of
Speaker 10: five hundred thirty.
Speaker 3: One pounds, it's time in the long red.
Speaker 10: Juts beat Austin.
Speaker 2: All it says is the Holt see.
Speaker 10: Buddy Wayne going against him and on the five hundred
Speaker 10: and forty four pounds from Lexington, Tennessee Tommy Gillep and
Speaker 10: from Tampa, Florida, the.
Speaker 3: Halt California League one fall.
Speaker 10: A twenty minute time limit. The referee is Tommy Marlin.
Speaker 3: Look at the blood in the ring. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a mess.
Speaker 10: Referee Tommy Marlin. Beat Austin fired.
Speaker 3: So these are the long pants.
Speaker 2: He would wear a Georgia, a stertled and golden. So
Speaker 2: he's making it's going to be Austin's subtle shifts.
Speaker 6: The appearance here Tommy Gilbert.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 10: Should be a fine tag team match, got good size
Speaker 10: on both sides. Of the ring, but the size advantage
Speaker 10: is almost always going to go to the team that
Speaker 10: has the hult terry bowler. Yes, Yea gets six seven.
Speaker 10: He weighs three to twenty all by himself. He's in
Speaker 10: the corner right now, watching his part.
Speaker 3: Is not even wrestling, and the top all man down
Speaker 3: to the mat. Oh brittenvers that amateur style. A lot
Speaker 3: of switches, a lot of front headlocks, a lot of
Speaker 3: series going on. Hogan barking for the referee to take
Speaker 3: closer attention from the apron, round and.
Speaker 10: Round the ring, each trying to gain the advantage advantage
Speaker 10: to Austin. Briefly, then Tommy Gilbert comes back with the
Speaker 10: right four arms. One minute gone.
Speaker 2: In this one, the stalemate between Jaibert and Austin is terry.
Speaker 2: The whole Boulder waits patiently on the infant and he's
Speaker 2: waiting for that hot tag.
Speaker 10: Uncles Tommy up on the bottle Brop battles back. He's
Speaker 10: out of the corner now.
Speaker 12: Gilbert's used to be so simple, changing words.
Speaker 10: Yep, Buddy Wayne over in the Austin's corner. Austin, no
Speaker 10: little guy himself. He'll worry about two eighty five something
Speaker 10: like that wrapped up Tommy Gilbert's arm.
Speaker 3: Look at Tommy, Tommy, tom.
Speaker 10: Before Austin is able to really set up on the
Speaker 10: hole and bear down on him. Minute forty five gone,
Speaker 10: Tommy Gilbert, Pete Austin. They started it. They've been in
Speaker 10: there all the way almost.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of changing what side of the APRONI stands.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing much else.
Speaker 10: Two minutes going right now, Pete Austin down on the mat,
Speaker 10: Tommy Gilbert right there with him.
Speaker 3: About now, they're not even they're done making reference to
Speaker 3: Eddie Boulder at all. It sounds like, I know it's
Speaker 3: what it seems like.
Speaker 10: Down the man goes Austin shoulders down.
Speaker 2: That's a move the whole caused to use that the
Speaker 2: abdominal stretch into the lateral guillotine like pinning combination.
Speaker 12: There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a chanssion saw Tommy Gilbert put it on. So
Speaker 2: apparently Hult taking notes could in tower so much darker in.
Speaker 3: Tan and so much holler done. Of course, he just
Speaker 3: makes anyone a spot.
Speaker 10: Respect He wasn't able to make it stick. Pete Austin
Speaker 10: is still in there. It's Gilbert against Pete Austin.
Speaker 3: I knew.
Speaker 2: Eventually on the lapstan were treated to the stylings of
Speaker 2: Tommy Gilbert and Pete Austin. I just didn't be during
Speaker 2: our tribute to Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 3: The extreme. He's waiting for this for since day one.
Speaker 2: A lot of pulling going on, pushing him, pulling. Gilbert
Speaker 2: scrambles beneath the legs of Austin and lands a big
Speaker 2: drop kick the Hulk, offering some applause from the liprit
Speaker 2: first partner, Tommy Gilpair.
Speaker 10: Now a little conversation with Buddy Wayne. Do they make
Speaker 10: a tag? No, Pete Austin stays in there. Tommy back
Speaker 10: to the corner, says something to the Hulk.
Speaker 3: I think what he said was Brother.
Speaker 10: Gilbert rammed into the turnbuckles by Pete Austin. Tommy trying
Speaker 10: to work his way back to the center of the ring.
Speaker 10: He does not want to get trapped in that corner
Speaker 10: with Buddy Wayne and Pete Austin and both work on him.
Speaker 3: Beat down continues. I guess you're dead on when he
Speaker 3: said he's waiting for the hot tag. That just seems
Speaker 3: to be where we're at.
Speaker 10: Yolberts round behind Pete Austin.
Speaker 6: He hits a bit of four arms.
Speaker 10: Hag it.
Speaker 3: Here there comes Terry. There you go.
Speaker 10: Here it comes Buddy Wayne.
Speaker 3: Throw an elbow anything that moves, that's it. The elbows
Speaker 3: on Buddy Wayne.
Speaker 10: He puts Pete Austin into the ropes. Buddy Wayne's still there.
Speaker 10: He's thrown out onto the apron by the hawk, not
Speaker 10: over the top rope. He was thrown through the ropes.
Speaker 10: The Hulk back to work on Pete Austin.
Speaker 3: There it is some of the squeeze, thinks bear hug
Speaker 3: on Pete Austin.
Speaker 10: Let's see possible submission where.
Speaker 3: It is guy's ringing the bell.
Speaker 6: That is it.
Speaker 10: The Hulk gets a pin.
Speaker 3: Wait the referee rang the bell and then get the
Speaker 3: pine two three? Didn't he truly bizarre? That's that's that's
Speaker 3: whole Cogan right there.
Speaker 10: Brother.
Speaker 3: I want to beat him twice, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just straight hot tag, like you know,
Speaker 2: just as they're describing.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Just get him in there and go through the motions
Speaker 2: until you can set it up and the whole victorious
Speaker 2: there in the studio. That's August twenty fifth. Here's just
Speaker 2: a quick read next here for an upcoming show in Jonesborough.
Speaker 2: And Oxford, Misissippi. I think as they promote an upcoming
Speaker 2: Hulk appearance.
Speaker 10: Okay, tonight also wrestling in Oxford, Mississippi. Here's that card.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I think Oxford would had to be built
Speaker 10: a battle of the giants, have the Hulk, Hated Boulder,
Speaker 10: Ron Bass and Big Pete Alston to be there. I
Speaker 10: don't have some big guys, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: That was Rob Fuller actually sounded just like Ron.
Speaker 3: Je Yes.
Speaker 2: Jared Welch Present Wrestling Monday, August twenty seventh, Mid South Coliseum,
Speaker 2: Lawler and Bockwinkle. Interesting spelling there in Winkle w I
Speaker 2: n c l E. For the ABA World titles, Jerry
Speaker 2: lull are challenging for the a Toba Belt in seventy nine.
Speaker 2: That that's a tried and true formula, and the Southern
Speaker 2: Heavyweight title, and the co features Ron Bass versus Bill Nundee,
Speaker 2: Gordian Hayes versus Regal and Morton. And for the Southern
Speaker 2: tag titles. Now going for the tag belts, it's the
Speaker 2: Hulk tea Tommy Gilbert who we just saw there in studio.
Speaker 2: They formed a team to go for the gold against
Speaker 2: Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham pushing ahead. There's another program
Speaker 2: feature where Ron Bass is trapped in the super Southern
Speaker 2: squeeze of Terry the hulp Bolter. That's what he would
Speaker 2: call the Bear Hug. He apparently faced Sonny King on
Speaker 2: this Louisville wrestling card August twenty eighth of that year.
Speaker 2: Here's some more television promotion for a show that's upcoming,
Speaker 2: I think on August thirtieth, three to two one play.
Speaker 10: Thursday Night for At City, Arkansas.
Speaker 8: A big fourteen man Royal. Gordian Hayes, the Hulls.
Speaker 10: Yeah, na, the big names and they'll be in Forest City.
Speaker 3: A fourteen man Royal, A fourteen man it was one.
Speaker 3: Remember that early clip we found where gene Oakerland calls
Speaker 3: it the Rumble Royal from eighty eight. Yes, Bread new
Speaker 3: to the concept.
Speaker 10: Oh, Thursday Night Forrest City, Arkansas, A big fourteen man Royal.
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh yeah, Guidon hame I love me of fourteen
Speaker 15: man royal, Love me a good old fashioned.
Speaker 3: Royal, Crown Royal if you will. Jerry Laller involved and
Speaker 3: yeah you heard him called Hulk there. Hayes, the Hulk Haul.
Speaker 8: He names the big names and they'll be in Forest.
Speaker 3: City Wrestling Friday Night, August thirty first of that year
Speaker 3: at the tub Blo of Misissippi Sports Arena. It's Sonny
Speaker 3: King versus or Sonny Ing. Yeah fucking bad, God, I
Speaker 3: don't care versus the Hulk Terry Boulder, And there he
Speaker 3: is with the Uncle Sampo's. There he is again in
Speaker 3: the Uncle Sampo's for the Labor Day weekend card at
Speaker 3: the American Legion Arena September first, it is Jerry Lawler,
Speaker 3: Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham versus Eddie Martl and Tommy
Speaker 3: Gilbert Nadi Gilbert in a six man tag team main event.
Speaker 3: Underneath them Terry Gordy and Michael Hayes versus The Hulk
Speaker 3: and Steve Rigal. You heard it, folks, The Free Birds
Speaker 3: versus Hulk Hogan in seventy nine. I cannot handle no, No,
Speaker 3: I cannot handle Hulk Hogan taking on the Freebirds at all.
Speaker 2: In Jonesborough, no less. Never thought their paths crossed this early.
Speaker 3: But in fact, ever, when where did they ever fucking
Speaker 3: wrestle the Freebird? You're right?
Speaker 2: Ever, Like if I was to guess if their paths
Speaker 2: ever crossed, I guess My point is it would not
Speaker 2: have been this early. That is just that's just truly insane.
Speaker 2: And we can skip this one and we will say it.
Speaker 2: We'll put a pin in that one. There's a program
Speaker 2: photo of Terry really getting up in the air from September.
Speaker 2: Look at that, Wow Lake drop it look me makes
Speaker 2: him look like he's flying thirty feet the air. As
Speaker 2: it say, they fly through the air, but not always
Speaker 2: with the greatest of ease. For what we mean, look inside,
Speaker 2: just a picture there of the single out wearing Terry
Speaker 2: Boulder dropping a big leg apparently on this card in Louisville,
Speaker 2: September fourth of nineteen seventy nine, it was the hulkon
Speaker 2: Tommy Gilbert versus Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham for the
Speaker 2: Southern Tag Team Championships. Underneath the match, yeah, between Bill
Speaker 2: Dundee and Jerry Lawler. So that feud very much underway.
Speaker 2: We see it repeated here Wednesday, September fifth of seventy
Speaker 2: nine at the Coliseum Lawler and Dundee and it's the
Speaker 2: Free Birds versus Regal and Morton and Wayne Ferris and
Speaker 2: Larry Latham versus the Hulk and Tommy Gilbert for the
Speaker 2: Southern Tag belts, so no sign of Eddie Boulder anymore.
Speaker 2: By September. Oh, He's like god, not even on the cards.
Speaker 2: Rap Arena Thursday, September sixth of seventy nine Southern Heavyweight
Speaker 2: title The Hulk versus Ron Bass underneath Jerry Lawler and
Speaker 2: Bill Dundee. In the main event, Jerry Jarrett teams with
Speaker 2: Jackie Fargo to take on Wayne Fairy and Larry Latham
Speaker 2: for the Southern tag titles. So not winning the belts.
Speaker 2: There is the Hulk.
Speaker 3: Next up.
Speaker 2: Phyllis County Fairgrounds has in Marvel, Arkansas on September seventh,
Speaker 2: has Ron Bass versus the Hulk as well Buddy Wayne
Speaker 2: and Pete Austin versus Eddie Boulder. There he is in
Speaker 2: mer Goware Coca War teaming with Eddie Boulder, just helping him,
Speaker 2: but teaming with him. Sunny King versus Dallas Montgomery as well.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of polaroids there of Hulk wearing the
Speaker 2: aforementioned Tampa Jim T shirt, Eddie Boulder looking as seventies
Speaker 2: as you can look, some stills that survive of them
Speaker 2: and sing lets as well, and there is I think
Speaker 2: one final snap this This comes from Facebook and an
Speaker 2: account where it says Terry Boulder Hulk taken in the
Speaker 2: seventies at the Evansville Coliseum. I've never seen another Hogan
Speaker 2: signed as Terry Boulder Hulk. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 2: kind of coveted. Is his autographs that he would sign
Speaker 2: before he was Hulk Hogan and he yeah, for sure
Speaker 2: as Terry Boulder. This piece comes from the Ellen Nora collection.
Speaker 2: This Facebook post says this is from a collector of
Speaker 2: Facebook page. Honora was the president of the Jerry the
Speaker 2: King Lawler fan Club. Heye, and to punctuate it, to
Speaker 2: punctuate that here on this edition of the Complete Hulk Hogan,
Speaker 2: I asked you to click ahead one take a look
Speaker 2: at that drawing. There is another one.
Speaker 3: Wow, Jesus Christ Almighty.
Speaker 2: Autographed by King Jerry Lawler and signed apparently in a
Speaker 2: future life by Hulk Hogan himself.
Speaker 3: Off to the right.
Speaker 2: It's an illustration sketch and it could be right out
Speaker 2: of a press kit for The Incredible Hulk starring Louf Forrigno.
Speaker 2: Yep Helpe seriously could and Terry Boulder Jerry Lawler at
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan. Obviously their fates very much intertwined from the
Speaker 2: very beginning, as we've now established, all the way from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine in Memphis, and on the next installment
Speaker 2: of the Complete hul Cogan, we'll dig a little bit
Speaker 2: more into where some of those tensions between the King
Speaker 2: and the Hulkster came from that Jimmy Hard and others
Speaker 2: have made reference to, and we'll take a good solid
Speaker 2: look at Hulk's return to Memphis in nineteen eighty one
Speaker 2: after making his star in New York and elsewhere, tangling
Speaker 2: with Jerry Lawler in a highly disputed outcome that would
Speaker 2: lead to the infamous match you've referenced and so many
Speaker 2: others remember on the Wrestling Gold Tape, and the highly
Speaker 2: controversial idea, particularly as Hulk Cogan hit it big nationally
Speaker 2: that a tape exists of Jerry Lawler beating him before
Speaker 2: he was famous. That's next time, as we further our
Speaker 2: examination of Memphis and Hulk cogin on the Complete hul cokindimouncement.
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