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Speaker 1: Live is Pet Life Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's Talk Pets.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Human Animal Connection show, where we believe

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we can communicate with all animals. Join us as we

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explore the thirty three principles and healing methods of the

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Human Animal Connection. As animal lovers, we know that you

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share our commitment to making the world a kinder place

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for all creatures. Together, let's embrace the transformative healing power

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of the Human Animal Connection.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome to the Human Animal Connection. I know

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you're going to really be delighted by this show. This

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is going to be some really interesting information. I know

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a lot of these things you will have thought about before,

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but there's some new ways that we're going to be

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talking about, some things about making your life more harmonious

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and more peaceful with dogs. And I am going to

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be talking with Jesse Sternberg and he is the author

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of Enlightened Dog Training book I've been devouring, got lots

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of highlights all through the book. It's really a delightful

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book that I totally recommend. And as fans of the

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Human Emal Connection, you're going to recognize some of the

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concepts are very similar and in some important ways, some

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differences so we're going to explore that becaus as continuous learners,

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we'll always want to find out if is there something

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new that we can use. So Jesse, thank you so

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much for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for that introduction. And I thought this

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is going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: Definitely going to be fun. Now I know you start,

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you've been in this business. We're working with dogs for

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a couple of decades, three decades. You started out in

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doggie daycare, and I think you learned a lot by

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all the dogs that wanted to come and be with you,

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and you learn what it's like to have not only

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a little pack, but a very big pack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to be responsible for them in a different

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way than just being with them adds a whole other

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level of insight communication, dog training.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, we're really interested in peaceful approaches to

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working with dogs. I know that's something that you've really

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perfected and developed and you know, had to work with

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in an environment when you have a whole bunch of

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dogs in in your in your in your space that

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you're responsible for. And we're also very interested in the

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ways that pack energy affects dogs. So what are some

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of your thoughts about the pros and cons of dogs

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together in a space.

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Speaker 3: Wow, the pros are the vibe is amazing. Yeah, when

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when they feel safe and when they feel protected, then

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the peacefulness begins and that is so great. There needs

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to be a protector and a provider for them to

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have that switch that they flip on m and order. Yeah, yeah,

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I know. So this is like this sounds great, but yeah,

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who do they? Who do you think they expect and

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want to have that role?

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Speaker 2: Well that would be me, right, it's you.

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Speaker 3: And so the caution here is everything I tell you.

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Once you hear it, you're going to go Okay, Now,

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now I got to go do that.

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Speaker 2: Because that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: But we want to keep the peace, and this is

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sort of this is the duality of it. We want

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to keep the peace and there's two really easy ways

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to do that with dogs with a pac mentality that

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I discovered. One is to provide a territory protection.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: So they all every dog. I've never met a dog

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that didn't get excited or you know, silly at the

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front door. Right. Same with this, the same concept with

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the windows. It's the same concept with when somebody's coming

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home or going away. I kind to bucket all of

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this into territory. Okay, Well, the territory ought to be respected.

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It ought to be for the safety of our pack.

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You know, somebody needs to be sheriff and governed, which

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means whatever is outside, it's not exciting, not scary.

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Speaker 2: Contrary to canine belief.

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Speaker 3: What usually happens in because that's that's like a computer

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program that's going on in your dog's head. Protect the territory,

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alert master. Right, Well, what's happening is they've been making

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alerts for like the last seven years, and we have

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been communicating words instead of with actions.

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Speaker 2: So not speaking their language. They're communicating in their doggy

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language world, and we're making a mistake of communicating the

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human world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're confusing them with the wrong flavor of phraise

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a positive reinforcing. They start to think that we like

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them barking, and we like we like them jumping up

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and you know, scratching on us a little bit if

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they're excited, and so they actually think we like when

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they do that because yeah, we're too afraid of a confrontation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we don't want to fight, but when they're there,

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that's double edged sort of everything, Right, right, that's why I.

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Speaker 3: Have this idea of this character that they want us

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to be is the peaceful version of being the alpha.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is so wonderful because you've really reclaimed

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the word alpha, which has been kind of misused for

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a while by.

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Speaker 3: It's been Yeah, thank you, I'm trying. That's my it's

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my modus operandi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were reclaiming the word alpha. There's been

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some tremendous misunderstanding and some really bad practices under the

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guise of the understanding of alpha, which is really not correct.

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If we look at wolves, for example, you know the

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alpha neess, that's the most harmonious character in the pack, right,

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that is the eldest, the wisest, the smartest, the you know,

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the softest in a way in the sense that this

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one is not going to waste energy on having a

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snarl over nothing. Energy is very valuable and.

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Speaker 3: Way bigger fish to fry, because he's got his eye

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on the territory and he's got his mind on the

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next meal, and he's got his mind on the safety

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of every creature. And that level of consciousness is very

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similar to your domestic dogs consciousness.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so that's what they're looking for from us.

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So when they're you know, the Amazon person or whoever

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comes to the door and they go running, barking, lunging,

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you know, making a big display and we get all

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mad and all this other stuff, that's they don't they

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think we're participating in that, you know, upsetness. Oh, something

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terrible is happening. We all have to make noise.

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Speaker 3: Now, right. So my viewpoint of looking at that is

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we're adding chaos to their chaos. And so as a leader,

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you're no respect. That's like a beta move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The alpha move would be to offer some protection, offer

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some guidance, which usually just looks like, hey, the doors

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the hot zone, move away from it, and I know

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that you've got strong feelings, but sit it out bringing

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it up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we need to be in a peaceful state.

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If we are going to expect them to be in

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a peaceful state.

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Speaker 3: Totally, they're they are going to reflect us.

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Speaker 2: So that's what really, what they're looking to us for

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is some guidance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of guidance, little dog giving some guidance out there. Yes,

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so somebody, somebody just arrived, the maintenance guy just got here. Yeah,

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so I think that's so fascinating that you are taking

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back the understanding of what true alpha nature is. It's

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not about being the biggest bully on the playard. It's

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really about being the wisest, most protective in a harmonious way.

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So they're looking to us to take on some of

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this role. I guess that is what you're saying, so

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they can relax a little bit. They don't always have

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to be.

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Speaker 3: Exactly that's That's exactly what it does, is it takes

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the edge that's that they have on them assuming the

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role of protector and not really in like the animal

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role kingdom kind of world, but in like the human

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box created world. Then their senses aren't set up to

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process it, and they need our They need us on

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the team to play our role on the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we need to be a little better at

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the human naturedness in order to help them have a Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's just another level everybody's really everybody is as good

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as they are going to be. Everyone's the best version

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of them that they're being. But this level of looking

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at it from the lens of Oh, I kind of

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get what my dog's thinking about. I kind of get

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I kind of get that it's possible to you know. Oh,

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so alpha's also set set the rules hm hmm okay,

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and they set the rules around what they're providing. Mm

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hmm okay. So you're the peaceful Alpha provides provides the

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resource of the food. And it's really satisfying to work

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for food. Yes, expense of being pro proud, Yes, excellent.

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Speaker 1: Z to.

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Speaker 3: Cut that corner and we all do it. And I

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cut that corner too when I invest in that, And

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I switch food time around into a seven minute exercise

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where work is being done. Work meaning the dog is concentrating,

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and I'm leading it and I'm supporting it for its decisions,

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not for its behaviors visions right, and I start to

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communicate to it like an alpha. So here's here's like,

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for the safety of our pack, I need you to

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stay here, and I'm going to run out to the

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mailbox and I'm going to come back, but don't move.

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I'm not going to tell you, well, who doesn't want

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to have that? Who has that? And who doesn't want

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to have that? Similarly, all right, well done job. How

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do you come with me or walk to the corner store.

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I'm not going to go and get at least just

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stay with me, okay, dad, boom, like you're walking with

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a toddler. So there's that connection. And then when you

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get to the store, it's like, okay, you know that

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play we practice where you lie down and you don't

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move run the play boom okay. And so it's totally

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possible to enrich all of your moments of the day

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where you're connecting to your dog and aunt and just

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like really realizing that that's what they're craving from you.

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Most of these dogs, a border Collie, a lab, a

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Golden retriever, their job is to stay down and wait

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and wait for you to tell them to go do something.

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And they're waiting okay, exciting times. So doing a little

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bit of this with your food and you know, putting

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the food ball on the ground and doing what I

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would call an alpha claim, which is where you just

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stand over top of it. And this is where the

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one time where you would stare at them because you

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were having a challenge. Hey, this is mine as des ours,

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but it's not time to take it yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: What ends up happening is there's like a total honor

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code and the doll okay okay, and it stands up

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and it moves backwards, and then it sits down and

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lies down. Yep, it's being respectful right working, he's waiting,

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he's processing that desire. A lot of dogs can't handle

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any any of their desires, any of their fears. They

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act them out by jumping, scratching, barking, not listening, being bad.

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So my approach here is, I know I'm going to

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have so much power of influence in the relationship with

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you that I'm still connected to you when you have

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strong feelings. Okay, that's when I'm going to leave you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Well that's really wonderful. Do you have a

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sentence that I underlined in your book and I'm going

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to tell you what it is, and we're gonna take

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a little break. Can you're gonna explain it because I

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love it. You said, no dog thinks he's misbehaving, and

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I think that's a wonderful statement. We're going to take

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a short love break, and when you come back, I

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want you to tell us all about that. We'll be

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right back in just a moment.

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Thank you for loving animals. Now back to the show.

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Speaker 5: Let's Talk Pets on Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Human Animal Connection podcast where I'm

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speaking with Jesse Sternberg, and he is the author of

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Enlightened Dog Training, Become the Peaceful Alpha your Dog needs

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and respects. And he's also going to tell us he's

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got a new workbook out, so he'll tell us about

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that at the end of our podcast here, So before

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we went on the break, we were talking about a

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wonderful sentence you have in your books that says, no

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dog thinks he's misbehaving. And I think as humans, we

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are convinced that they know they're bad and that they

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know they're misbehaving. So what are your thoughts about that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, in the moment where we're convinced that they

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know they're bad, they're reacting to our mood. They're anticipating,

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and they can read the room, they can read the moment.

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But in the moment where they're you know, in the

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hour before that, when you were outside doing whatever you

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were doing and your dog, your puppy was shredding the

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toilet paper roll and recorating, he was in he was

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just following his bliss. What was he doing wrong?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So from their point of view, the thing that

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drives you crazy was probably a lot of fun for them.

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Speaker 3: Well that's there, that exactly, That's the key, and so

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we have to be when we are totally consistent in

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our responses. That's like so, so you know, that's an

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individual thing because it's not always going to be as

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cute as the puppy doing that. It could be more realistically,

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you're kind coming home from work and your dog is

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so excited to see you. You haven't put anything down,

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and it's jumping up and scratching you, and it's adding

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stress to your stress instead of just a soft landing.

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So it's always like he doesn't think he's doing anything wrong.

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He's missing you. He is coming towards you, and he

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is saying, give me attention, and usually he's getting it. Yeah,

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he's not doing anything wrong there. And so both situations

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is a step back moment. It's always a slow to

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it's always alpha to be responding with the appropriate tempo,

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appropriate timing. Ah, if I'm catching myself not being in

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loving comedy land like grating below that, because my responsors

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are always going to be more patient and and different there.

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If I'm if I'm crabby and I haven't had my coffee,

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very slow to respond, Yeah, yeah, I'm very slow and

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I'm more patient. I take more of an aloof standpoint.

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I'm not gonna I'm not going to positively reinforce something right, So.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people may not realize that they're positively

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reinforcing when the dog is jumping and barking and being

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kind of highly energized, and you're responding in a harsh

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shirt or intense way. Back the dog thinks, Okay, well

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we're playing this. It's working. I wanted attention, I'm getting it.

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Speaker 3: Primus under all of this is it's our actions that

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do the talking. Ah, it's an alpha's actions that have

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the power, so that when he speaks, he's already got

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the Orhi. They already have the merit from their actions,

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their wise powerful actions. So there's nothing to challenge. It's

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just it makes sense. Okay, we'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well we have you know, our latest rescue.

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He's wonderful dog. He was living in a house with

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twelve dogs. He has passed his therapy dog tests. His

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name is Harry. He's a wonderful guy except when I

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leave the house. And when I leave the house, he

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decides that the garbage can is his. And we have

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one of those garbage cans, so supposedly dog proofs with

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the latch that the dog can't get in, and he's

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watched us wave our hand over it, so he waves

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his head over it, gets the garbage can open, and

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turns it on his side. And has his way with us.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it sounds like he's not anxious that you're leaving.

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He's just an opportunity seeker and he's clever. He just

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goes and takes it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just you know, I think he has

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himself a royal good time.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I love when dogs are like that. If a dog,

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I'd be like that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're gone, You're gone.

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Speaker 3: I maybe clean it up for my master.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, what's that? That's the way the mice will play,

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so yeah, yeah wild yeah. Well so yeah, we haven't

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we haven't gotten. We haven't been able to change that yet.

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Any tips on a dog who has a fun time

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with the garbage can when I'm gone.

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Speaker 3: Well, the obvious is that it is kind of fun

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for you. Also, not when I come home, when you

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come home. But it's a mixed it's a mix, like

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there's mixed on it. It's like when Bubba choose my

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remote control when I'm gone and I'm on like my

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sixth remote control, maybe because there's a little bit of

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grease from my thumb.

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Speaker 2: On it, oh doubt.

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Speaker 3: And it's a chewe toy for him. I come home

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and I find it funny. I don't tell him I

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find it funny, but right like I do find it.

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It's like dogs are supposed to be your man's like friend,

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like they're right living with your companion. It's on me.

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I left it out after four times. They should figure

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out put it in the drawer, right right? Okay, so haven't.

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Speaker 2: We haven't figured out the garbage thing yet. So it's

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a work in progress. But Harry's a wonderful bog. He

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does great therapy work. He's wonderful with teenagers. He works

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with teenagers who are dealing with anxiety, and he just

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lays down with them and settles them down. In thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: Explain that to me just a little bit like when

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his job kicks in. He just walks up to them

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and lays down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he can sense. He'll we have a circle.

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but he knows who needs him the most and he

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will just lay down for them. And he's big, and

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Harry seventy pounds of fur, and he's irresistible and they just,

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you know, just move into that state of just wanting

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to cuddle with him, or pet him, or move into

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his vibe. You know, his vibe takes over, which is

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so sweet and wonderful. And that's of course when the

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Amazon guy comes, it's a completely different dog.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love that. I love that. So I actually

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do this similar thing, and I do it on social media.

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I'm not sure if your listeners know or if you know,

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but I have a huge guard dug. He's like one

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hundred pounds dogo Argentina. He's pure white. Wow, he's two

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years old. I've been raising him since he was seven

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and a half weeks on social media, wow he is.

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He looks like the Lebron James of pitbulls. He looks

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so big and strong. People used to be terrified to him,

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but now he's so he's just he kind of lumbers

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and he's calm. And I can see a mile away

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when somebody is just kind of gazing at huh. I

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get my phone out and I slowly let Bubba like

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meander up to that person. Before you know it, that

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person is just oh, eating off the frequency. Yes, yes,

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and That's what I'm doing on social media. And yes,

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it's really cute.

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Speaker 2: It's adorable, I know. Well yeah, and That's one of

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the things that we helped the kids understand is that

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that all these feelings that they have, all these emotions,

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these are just energy states. And we teach them how

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to recognize it in the dogs and give it rate it,

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give them a number. What is what is Harry right now?

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within one lesson they are like within one point of accuracy.

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You know, almost all kids within one or two points

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still agree on the numbers. And then we help them

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understand they can do that with their own emotions. They can.

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They can. And so let's say, for example, Harry's six.

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Or Sophia was my little rescue. She is twenty five pounds,

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little schuaha. She was a feral dog. She used to

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scare grown men when they when I first got her,

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and they would come to the house, like maintenance workers

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or whatever. I'd have to have her strapped to my

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waist or they wouldn't come in. So she and now

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she's a therapy dog. She's wonderful. And so we'll ask them,

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you know, well what I Sophia right now? They'll say, well,

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she's a five, Okay, what are you? And they say, well,

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I'm a five. Oh, isn't that interesting? Okay, so let's

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see what happens. We'll do one of our little meditation techniques,

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one of our calming techniques that we do in less

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than thirty seconds, and then we say, what's Sophia now?

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And she said, well, she's a three. Oh, interesting, where

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do you? I'm a three? And so they begin to

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see the connection between our emotional state and the dog's

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emotional state, and also just the realization that they're not

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at the mercy of that emotional state, that they have

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a choice. They can choose to go to a more

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peaceful state, and that gives them more emotional flexibility in

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their lives.

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Speaker 3: So I love that. Okay, let me let me just

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flavor something here. When yeah, to make the right decision,

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make a good decision. Usually what that means is they

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decided to restrain their restrain their bad behavior and go

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into a calming position on their own, which would be

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I recommend offering gratitude emotion for the positive reinforcer, not excitement,

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not it's thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's a totally

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different flavor a reinforcer. And now you've got a dog

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that's programmed two make good decisions that you like.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I love that. Yeah. I mean I remember when

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I was I had to become a dog trainer because

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we had a prison program and we couldn't afford a

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dog trainer, so I had to become a dog trainer.

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So and was always like good talky, good tucky.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was always yeah, that's like I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what you're offering is something very very different.

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You're offering thank you. And I love that because when

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when I say thank you, I have to really feel

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it first of all, because dogs know when we're lying.

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We can't fake it thank you. Yeah, they know the difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bingo, this takes a little bit of.

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Speaker 2: That's lovely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I also underline any book that

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I really love is your three versions of calm, you know,

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looking that the dog is looking to see am I.

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Calm is my person, Calm is the environment calm. I

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love that. I love the simplicity of that and the

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recognition that maybe one of those three elements is missing

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in any given moment of intensity. So tell us more

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about that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, So what you're speaking

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to is dogs have actions that they make called calming signals,

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and one example would be like yawning or raising the pop. Okay,

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so when they make these, and they're making them all

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the time, like all the time, all day long. When

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they make these, we can get we can just think, Okay,

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is it because the dog is stressed out because something

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in the environment is going on, like outside of the house,

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Is the dog stressed out because I'm stressing the mountain,

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or you know, is it an other situational So it's

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just a way to quickly diagnose what your dog's communicating

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to you, which is I'm trying to Hey, I'm trying

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to calm myself down. Yeah, either you're the problem or

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could you help me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, it's like if it's not one

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of these three things, it's one of these three things.

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So just like scan yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So just if there's something going on that isn't clearly

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isn't working for both of you, take a look and

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see is there something outside in the environment or inside

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in the environment. Maybe is there something else happening in

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the house that's disturbing or is it something that we're

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doing that's unconscious that we may not realize that we're like,

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I know when I if I'm I try not to

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do this, but you know, it happens. Right, I'm running

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late and I'm rushing to get out the door, and

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that energy. None of my dogs, none of my three

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dogs like that. They're all like, okay, what is it,

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Let's get out of the way. Oh she's rushing now,

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you know. And I remind it when I see them

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do that, I realize, Okay, I'm putting them through way

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too much. I need to slow down. You know. It's like, okay,

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I'm three minutes later. What's the difference.

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Speaker 3: It's the best at that level. It's like the best

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reflection for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Right right, It's really they really are our mirrors. They

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really well let us know if we're out of sink.

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And but I love also what you're saying about having

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the dog make their own decisions. It's so wonderful when

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instead of the old version, which is we don't neither

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of us agree with the old alpha version, which should

478
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make your dogs do something that you want, versus the

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notion where the dog chooses to do something because they

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understand and because it's feels good. So tell us, tell

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us more about that decision making process for ducks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well this is really cool. I say this in

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the book. Anytime I'm establishing a like a like an

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etiquette that I want them to offer me in my

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territory or around my food, those are the two things

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that are providing and protecting. So it makes a lot

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of sense anytime that those come out, feelings will spike,

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and when spike, behaviors follow. And so the decision would

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be self regulate. And what that looks like is getting

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up and walking away, getting up and yawning, going for

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whatever it is, you know, like the sandwich I put down,

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but catching yourself and coming back. And so I'm into

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that moment. I'm locked into all the moments because i

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want to be the best version of my dog's peaceful

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alpha that I can possibly be. They're getting a good

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version of me as the day goes on, as my

497
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consciousness boots up and expands, and I'm doing little activities

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to tease that out so I can be the best me.

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I'm meditating, breathworking, gratitude, journaling, whatever the routine is. Then

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I'm keeping my dog commer around things that would otherwise

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be upsetting or irritating for them. And I'm getting ahead

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of that by giving them a gym class workout, by

503
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giving them a yoga class, hypnotic sequence obedience training, and

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I'm thoughtful in terms of how I'm teaching them to

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sit and how to down, and I'm taking obedience to

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a performance level, because when I interact with Bubba in

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the world, my ferocious looking butterfly, there's a way for

508
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me to have him behave that sets everybody at ease.

509
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Oh yeah, And I don't need to in a toxic

510
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alpha way command him to go into let's just say

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a sin. If he's scared or excited, what I want

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to do is prepare him so that he's already had

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a mind body workout already had, you know. And then

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if he gets scarcers, I can guide him a little

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bit away from what's scaring him, guide the new, have

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him help him digest the moment of whatever's going on.

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Speaker 2: Fabulous. Yeah, well, I have a feeling that you like threes.

518
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I like threes too. And you also have a section

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of the book where you talk talking about these three

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experiences that for a dog, it can either be pleasant, unpleasant,

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or tranquil.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, tranquility is like where nature's state is.

523
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That's like when I'm walking through the forest in the

524
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morning and three bunnies go across and there's sitting there.

525
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When I'm not there, the bunnies are tranquil. Okay, So

526
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that's the flavor of emotion that nature provides for itself.

527
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It is. It's kind of like a safety feeling. It's

528
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a feeling of relaxation, of expansion, nourishing, of being rested

529
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or resting. It's the feeling of or non meditators are

530
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just like somebody who is the feeling of like brain

531
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not talking, Yeah, the feeling of being satisfied, yeah, peaceful,

532
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And then in that state all kinds of cool stuff emerges.

533
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You start to tune in and connect to this environment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, beautiful. Well, I know that you talk about

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the different ways that we can communicate using the Secret

536
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Language of dogs in your book, and just we're just

537
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about a time, but I just want to ask you

538
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one last question. Are you someone that believes in telepathic

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animal communication?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

541
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, so we'll have to do a whole

542
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,720
other show just on that sounds good. Yeah, I've been

543
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speaking with Jesse Sternberg and he's the author of Enlightened

544
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:47,279
Dog Training, How to become the Peaceful Alpha your dog

545
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needs and respects. And I know you have a new

546
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workbook out. Tell us about your new workbook.

547
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Speaker 3: Hey, so this workbook is on Amazon under Jesse. It's

548
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,759
it's a branded with the Peaceful Alph up there, but

549
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it's the dog training workbook for humans, all right.

550
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: So this is everything that you need to know, you

551
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,599
human to make things better with your dog. So this

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has been really delightful. And how can people find you online?

553
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Speaker 3: Online? They can find me at my website Peacefulalpha dot com.

554
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Speaker 2: Wonderful. Well, Jesse, thank you so much. Before we leave,

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is there any message maybe that you have from Bubba

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to give to our audience, anything that Bubba would like

557
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to say before we go?

558
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Speaker 3: Worthy?

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Speaker 2: Oh there he is, Hia.

560
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Speaker 3: Actually, when you look at that, when you see that,

561
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uh huh, that's how he is when I leave the

562
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house and come home. That's how he is when I

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bring food out. That's what a normal tranquil state is.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful. Well, we can learn from dogs and we can

565
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help them too, not like that with raccoons. Yeah, yeah,

566
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all right, well, thank you Jesse. I'm sure we'll have

567
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you on again, because I know we've just scratched the

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service here at the Human Animal Connection. We'll see you

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next time.

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