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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Seanda Ward.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's just two of us this week. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'll tell you what. We got a great gas

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<v Speaker 1>lined up, a little an that you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>set us up with, Sean, And it's all because of

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<v Speaker 1>these books we talked about a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have kids, you have grandkids, nieces, nephews, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a this is a pretty good subject too.

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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, so Adie talked about some snap circuits

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<v Speaker 2>by Alenko and he said they were also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>snap circuits. You put the pieces on and make circuits stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after the show, I said, Andy, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about snap circuits, but I'll show you these

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<v Speaker 2>books that I have that I got Max about a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago. And so I pulled up, pulled up these

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<v Speaker 2>two books. They're called Computer Engineering for Babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's very fitting for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But it's it's these very basic books that you

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<v Speaker 2>flip open and they push buttons. Then you do basic

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<v Speaker 2>logic gates that are computer functions. Here's a wire that

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<v Speaker 2>makes the circuit you know it, and orgates not or

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<v Speaker 2>and orgates, you know, things like that. So and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, why don't we reach out to the

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<v Speaker 2>author and get him on the show. So later on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, we're gonna sit down and talk to Chase

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<v Speaker 2>Roberts who created these books, and kind of the journey

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<v Speaker 2>he took to get these books out and published, and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a little bit about the development of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just so excited about these books. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that if you're into technology at all, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not not a baby, like these are the

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<v Speaker 2>fun to just flip through. Like it's because he made

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<v Speaker 2>a second one called Computer Engineering for Big Babies, which

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<v Speaker 2>just expands on you know, you start getting into mucks'es

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<v Speaker 2>and decoders and read writes and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>just an incredible set of books. You can find them

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<v Speaker 2>on his website at computer Engineing Forbabies dot com. Super

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<v Speaker 2>long domain, but you know, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so we'll talk to him water the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just I'm so excited for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of interesting, Sean, because Michelle reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>me and asked me the question about digital books. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a digital book. This is an actual

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<v Speaker 1>physical book that kids can manipulate and read and learn

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<v Speaker 1>from and see bright lights and switches and all this

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<v Speaker 1>fun stuff. But asked about digital books, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's people listening that have probably thought, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>write a book. There's people that say, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>write a book about my life, you know, the life project,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you know, how can you do that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>been made more available now for those that want to

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<v Speaker 1>write books, to be able to put together a book

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<v Speaker 1>that a family could read online, a digital book and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe who knows, even get it get it printed out.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people have been going that route too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have any digital

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<v Speaker 2>books for the kids yet. I know that Caitlin has

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<v Speaker 2>her e reader and we have his digital books that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But like we've talked, I've talked specifically about this type

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<v Speaker 2>of book in the past. The hands on, the tactile feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>the sound because you can hear it clicking if you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear that right, right, And there's visual feedback, there's

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<v Speaker 2>tactical feedback like that's so important for the development of

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<v Speaker 2>children and it's so important for people. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>as a whole to have that type of physical relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with books. Yeah, and so I just I know Max

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniel both have played with these books. Daniels is

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<v Speaker 2>still a little bit too young to understand these, but

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<v Speaker 2>Max can manipulate these and he understands and he understands

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<v Speaker 2>that Oh if I push them onon, the lightlights up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh if I push both these it doesn't light up.

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<v Speaker 2>If I push one or the other it does. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like just super basic functions that run everyday life

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<v Speaker 2>that are in these books. So just again, super excited

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<v Speaker 2>for this interview coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cool, there's a lot of tech news that

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<v Speaker 1>has happened this week. We got some listener questions as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things we kind of touched on

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<v Speaker 1>last week on the show was DJI was going to

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<v Speaker 1>have another announcement, and that announcement has been made. We

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sure exactly what it was, and I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>the DGI guys, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the announcement I thought it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming, Oh there is. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I texted you the other day saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>DGI is going to announce a new product, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think it is? And we kind of talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it internally and then they announced it. I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a teaser on their website for another product

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<v Speaker 2>launch that's not this. So this was I call them

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<v Speaker 2>ninja releases or shadow releases, right this one. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no pook like, there was nothing about it. They just

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<v Speaker 2>dropped it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, you know, I wanted to ask. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>for this announcement, it was the Osmo Mobiles seven all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a gimbal arm. But a lot of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners may not know what a gimbal arm is. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna ask you, Sean, because I think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you have one, but what is a

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<v Speaker 1>gimbal arm and why would you use it?

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<v Speaker 2>So a gimbal arm is it's a handheld device that

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<v Speaker 2>you mount your phone onto and it stabilizes it in

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<v Speaker 2>three accesses, so left, right, forward, backwards, up and down. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that when you are, say you're walking down a

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<v Speaker 2>hiking trail and you have your phone on there, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you buttery smooth footage as you're walking,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's going to take out the bumps and the

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<v Speaker 2>steps it's going to compensate for all that movement, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to keep your phone level stable and shooting

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<v Speaker 2>and shooting just crystal clean, stabilized video. They've made this

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<v Speaker 2>product for over a decade, right that the original osmos

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<v Speaker 2>came out. I think back in twenty thirteen, maybe I'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to look. But this one is specifically tied to

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<v Speaker 2>your mobile device, so your phone goes on it, you

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<v Speaker 2>run the app, or you record on your phone. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tie it together with Bluetooth. This one specifically has

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<v Speaker 2>some new features. It's got some functionality that can go back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's got a camera that shoots the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the specs here. It's like it's super light,

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<v Speaker 2>got the X, Y and Z axis. It's got the

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<v Speaker 2>compact tripod design so that extends and it retracts super easily.

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<v Speaker 2>of battery life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it is powered and that helps that.

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<v Speaker 2>You just charge it and plug it in. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's powered, so you're gonna feel as you're holding it,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna feel it. It's gonna give you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of resistance on your wrist as it's actively moving

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<v Speaker 2>magnets around to try and stabilize your stuff. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bluetooth connectivity for your phone. Uh, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's priced so competitively.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For they made two versions of this one, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go over the specs on the pro version, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Aesomo Mobile seven it's only eighty nine bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not bad, all right, It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want if you're an amateur filmmaker, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just shooting stuff for your for fun with your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want stabilized footage, like this is a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>You buy for your phone, You slap your phone on it,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this doesn't this does not have an extension arms,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't extend it to a higher of this one.

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<v Speaker 1>For the O seven, the regular seven that doesn't have that,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's eighty nine dollars is one that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little more priceier.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So the also Mobile seven P or seven Pro

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<v Speaker 2>receiver for their DGI mic, so you have if you

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<v Speaker 2>have somebody on their DJI mic, it can be received

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<v Speaker 2>on the device and record to your phone. An eight

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<v Speaker 2>inch telescoping arm. That's a decent sized arm for a tripod.

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<v Speaker 2>And it gesture control, so if you're shooting yourself, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do gesture control. I don't know what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't read that far into it. But then it

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<v Speaker 2>also has a light built in right, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>a fill light, so turned camera has a camera that

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<v Speaker 2>will face you so you can do vlogging. And also

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<v Speaker 2>and so the battery life is a little decreased on that,

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<v Speaker 2>so you get about four to five hours with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was the priced I still think very competitively

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<v Speaker 2>for what it offers. At one hundred and forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars, that's not too bad. You know, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>friend just give you an idea. I have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>in Tucson, which is a lot of brush and there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just just an area you could hike and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's real nice, but it's a terrain is a

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<v Speaker 1>little difficult, and he's gone out there to do videos

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<v Speaker 1>before and he'll hold the camera with his hand and

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<v Speaker 1>it's shaky and it's like you're watching it and you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting motion sick this year. With something like this

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<v Speaker 1>from Dji, this would make that nice and smooth and

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<v Speaker 1>more watchable almost, I want to say, And Dji you

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<v Speaker 1>know there we call him the drone people almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a drone is following him capturing the action because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so nice and smooth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean, I imagine with this extended arm, you

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<v Speaker 2>could get all sorts of creative, be all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>creative with mounting options and how it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's attached to your backpack, it's attached to your cars.

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<v Speaker 2>But again this is you're using your phone for the

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<v Speaker 2>record of the content to be recorded to so it

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<v Speaker 2>relies on the meo app. I believe it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>memo Mimomo for DGI. We you know, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that I expected. But again I was

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<v Speaker 2>blown away that I noticed today because I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to look up the specs for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the product that I thought they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to release, right, And they still have a teaser on

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<v Speaker 2>their web page for a different device to be released

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<v Speaker 2>on another date in the here in the near future,

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<v Speaker 2>which nobody knows what it is. Well, teaser picture looks

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<v Speaker 2>for this one, but I thought it was It looked

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<v Speaker 2>like on top of a screen, but then if you

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<v Speaker 2>go back and look at it, it's definitely on top

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of wonder all right, So you think of

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<v Speaker 1>about the big players in that field, would it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to action cameras, You've got Dji, GoPro is still in

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<v Speaker 1>Into three sixty is all about. You may be driving

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<v Speaker 1>And people have when they see footage back, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't maybe, like I've been part of the three

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of the other three sixty cams, And

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to find a platform that supports three

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<v Speaker 2>sixty viewing. Now. The ultimate goal for three sixty viewing

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<v Speaker 2>is for the user to experience the angles in whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I'll I'll give you a link to my YouTube page

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<v Speaker 2>because I have several videos that I shot in three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty that you can control. It's a cool experience,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's cumbersome, it's not convenient, and we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do so. I don't think DJ is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>in maybe maybe, but they're focused on there. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>they don't need to be in the three sixty market, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's just not a viewer base for it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>which when I was at Fox, we tease the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of doing, Hey, let's put a three sixty degree camera

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<v Speaker 2>switch sets, somebody watching live on YouTube could then pan

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<v Speaker 2>to the other set on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, have the experience of being in set.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it didn't work on the phone. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a miserable experience. The Facebook experience was miserable. So there

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't So a lot of the three sixty stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you see is all post process, right, because you can

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<v Speaker 2>have the you then as the creator, have the capability

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<v Speaker 2>of tailoring the experience to your viewership and that Without

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<v Speaker 2>that part of it, it just wasn't a great platform.

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<v Speaker 2>So you saw a huge spike in three sixty cameras

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<v Speaker 2>early on, and then they just kind of dwindled off

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<v Speaker 2>and now basically instant three sixty go Pro Max is

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<v Speaker 2>one of them, but there are several other contenders that

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of GoPro, I noticed that they have put together

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a and I don't think it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>time they've done it, but it's a many kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go Pro reduced price. You know, you're getting be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it up a little less, and it's real

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<v Speaker 1>one of smaller footprint camera that they can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mount because you can buy all kinds of mounts. You

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<v Speaker 1>on your chest, you can mount it on a car,

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<v Speaker 1>you can mount it just about anywhere, even on the

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<v Speaker 1>wing of an airplane. But we go Pro so you

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<v Speaker 1>get that action experience with this brand new Go Pro Hero.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to think of the actual model number

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but it's it's something new that the Hero eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that they'll be able to find in the stores.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just called the the it is just called

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<v Speaker 2>the Go Pro Hero. Okay, that was right when we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the show. Yeah, And I believe I

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<v Speaker 2>believe if I would, if I think back far enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they started doing this with either the eight

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<v Speaker 2>or the nine, right because you if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>way back to two thousand and eight, right right that

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<v Speaker 2>you had the original Go Pro Hero, then you had

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<v Speaker 2>the Hero Plus, then you had the Hero Plus. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you had to Go Pro Hero two, and then the three,

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<v Speaker 2>and then three plus and then with the four they

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<v Speaker 2>started getting into this weird nomenclature was like go Pro

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<v Speaker 2>Hero four, Yeah, go Pro Hero Silver, go Pro Hero

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<v Speaker 2>for white, go Pro Hero for Black.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have the Hero three and I love them. Yeah, this,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Something in this canra that I'm filming this segment with

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<v Speaker 2>is a three plus and it's that is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>go pro, but it's before the four really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>changed the layout a little bit. It kind of changed

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<v Speaker 2>how they deal with picture time lapses and something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the three plus is my go to. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got about probably a dozen of them now through finding

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<v Speaker 2>them used on eBay, people getting rid of them because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't use it because they they bought the newest

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<v Speaker 2>one and they didn't want it anymore. So I've just

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<v Speaker 2>been collecting them the three plus and I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have several of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're out so you can put them into an A

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<v Speaker 1>to mini, which is it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a micro hdum I out and you power yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't even have a battery in it, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to heat up the battery or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So I use them all the time, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>my time lapses I have posted either are from my

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<v Speaker 2>nikon or a Hero three plus. So GoPros has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the business so long. They just they're doing things right,

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<v Speaker 2>But the nomenclature started changing over the years, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when they introduced the session. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>another version of a GoPro that was just this version.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cube. It's a very small cube, completely sealed,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't put a skeleton case on anything. Called

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<v Speaker 2>the Hero Session. My parents bought it for their motor

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<v Speaker 2>home because they wanted to just to have it in

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<v Speaker 2>the dash while they were driving, and they loved it

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<v Speaker 2>for a period of time, but it didn't work as

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<v Speaker 2>well because it had to be powered all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>so they just bought a regular Carmen dash cam and

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<v Speaker 2>replaced that. So they just gave me the Session. I've

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<v Speaker 2>used that for time lapses, but there's no way to

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<v Speaker 2>externally power it. So it just was not the greatest.

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<v Speaker 2>It still shoots great video stuff, but it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the flexibility of the Hero model, the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>Hero models. So then, like I said, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>nine Go Pro Hero nine is when they first started

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<v Speaker 2>doing just the Hero and I think they made a

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<v Speaker 2>base model. I think it just did ten ADP at

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<v Speaker 2>the time because four K still wasn't really a thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the encoding and the battery life and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>the new one that is paired with the Hero twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just called the Go Pro Hero. It does offer

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<v Speaker 2>four K video. It's more compact, lightweight, and offers some

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<v Speaker 2>of the yeah stabilization features, but not doesn't give you

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<v Speaker 2>the flexibility of doing four K one four K two forty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you lose a lot of the depth of flexibility.

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<v Speaker 2>But for a cheaper price point too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's up two hundred and forty nine bucks with

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<v Speaker 1>that digital stabilization and it's five point three K sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and two point seven K to forty. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's if you're looking for a cheaper solution, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I probably spend the extra money and

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<v Speaker 1>get with that that you know that maybe regular go

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<v Speaker 1>Pro that could certainly work for you and you get

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little better quality out of it if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>So So I just I just I just chatchypt the question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was first the go Pro Hero was first launched

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<v Speaker 2>alongside the go Pro Hero six, so I was three

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<v Speaker 2>versions off. So it was a little bit further back

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<v Speaker 2>than I thought. March twenty eighteen, Okay, it included a

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<v Speaker 2>lower ten megapixel photo resolution from twelve and a resolution

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<v Speaker 2>of ten eighty P sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So the Hero six could do four K, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this one only did seven to twenty or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, ten eightp sixty. So a little bit further back.

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<v Speaker 2>I get stuck on the nine because I think the

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<v Speaker 2>nine was the first version that offered a jump from

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve megapixel still images to the twenty two megapixel right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the only reason I would get a newer

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<v Speaker 2>version of the GoPro is to jump from that twelve

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<v Speaker 2>megapixel still image to a twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Megapixel Okay, all right, all right, good stuff. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's out there in the action camera market. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were thinking about doing that, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw the news about the fifty ninety, were you thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of upgrading your graphics card?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>In your computer? Well, you know, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not playing any like maybe when Max wants to

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<v Speaker 2>get into video games or something like, I'll upgrade, right

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<v Speaker 2>my thirty sixty that I have. Oh yeah, way more

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<v Speaker 2>than enough to play, you know, all the old Doss

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<v Speaker 2>games that I've downloaded and played, Like those games don't

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<v Speaker 2>require anything, right, now, well, you're playing World of Warcraft

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<v Speaker 2>YABO for a couple of things. The only thing I'd

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<v Speaker 2>apparently my friends that are in the beta for that

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<v Speaker 2>are saying that it's eating graphics cards for breakfast. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see, we'll see what happens there. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>anticipate the need for me to upgrade any time in

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<v Speaker 2>the new future.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you, uh, you do a lot of video editing

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<v Speaker 1>like me. Having a graphics card that can handle it

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<v Speaker 1>though is also important because you're when you're editing video.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also that's also going to be an area where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to want to have better graphics. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need to go all the way up to

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty ninety and that's you know, the latest one.

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<v Speaker 1>People are camping outside microcenter, you know, trying to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people said it's because well, people were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scalping them. They buy them at a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>regular price, and then as the market you know starts

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<v Speaker 1>the dwindle, the prices go up and people will be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to spend more money on them, that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the case. Apparently with the fifteen ninety they

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<v Speaker 1>had an influx of materials that are used to career

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<v Speaker 1>ate it and with that that means there it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot more in the channel, and that

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<v Speaker 1>meets some of the people that did buy them for

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of scalping and reselling are probably not going

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, those people suck, But that's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. So you saw this and we talked we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this. I say this a lot, right, We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this on the show quite a bit. Is

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<v Speaker 2>the consumerism of going and buying a product and finding

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<v Speaker 2>it's been scalped is very frustrating. Yeah, and you think

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<v Speaker 2>back fifteen ten, fifteen, twenty years. Want to go get

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<v Speaker 2>a product that launched, you had to go physically to

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<v Speaker 2>it and stock, call ahead and find out they had it,

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<v Speaker 2>or wait in line. Yeah, or go to a midnight release.

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<v Speaker 2>And you saw a trend leading away from that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just pre order online, just buy it online. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>just wane. You didn't see that anymore. Well, then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, the scalpers said, well, now I can

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<v Speaker 2>just just do it online. I don't have to go

422
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<v Speaker 2>to the store to buy ten. I can just write

423
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<v Speaker 2>a bot that scoops them all up. And the companies

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. They're selling the product, they're making the money.

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<v Speaker 2>But the consumer base does care. And there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>sour attitude towards scalpers for a significant amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're actually seeing a trend back to stores, brick

428
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<v Speaker 2>and mortar stores getting an allotment and only selling one

429
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<v Speaker 2>to each customer. Yeah, and they're not selling them in

430
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<v Speaker 2>online as much, so you're actually it's getting It's weird

431
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<v Speaker 2>because you saw this huge flow of only online sales

432
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<v Speaker 2>and now it's back to in store with a larger stock,

433
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<v Speaker 2>and now people are camping out again and waiting overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>That never went away, but it was for larger ticket ezes,

435
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<v Speaker 2>but for the more popular items again, I think you're

436
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<v Speaker 2>going to start to see more again of the community

437
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<v Speaker 2>building around going a camping out overnight. Now you won't

438
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<v Speaker 2>see that for video game releases. And because that's just

439
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<v Speaker 2>too much money for them to spend on that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting trend I think you'll see. Come back

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have to take a quick break. We

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<v Speaker 1>come back our special guests on the show. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>title of these books, if our listeners want to go

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<v Speaker 1>online again, sean.

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<v Speaker 2>Computer Engineering for Babies, Hey, and Computer Engineering for Big Babies.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Chase Roberts is his name, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to the website and get more information about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about the guy that created these

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<v Speaker 1>two very fun books that are geared at the younger

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<v Speaker 1>set and the older said. We'll have some fun with

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<v Speaker 1>it too. I kind of like that. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be coming up on tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sean to wear it. Follow us on x set

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<v Speaker 2>tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So right before the break, we were talking about Computer

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<v Speaker 2>Engineering for Babies, which is a book that I had

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<v Speaker 2>showed Andy a couple couple weeks ago. He's because he

460
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<v Speaker 2>sent me the Alanko Spy Kit, which Max loves, and

461
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<v Speaker 2>so I showed him these books. Its Computer Reasuring for Babies, Yeah,

462
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<v Speaker 2>and Computer Injuring for Big Babies by Chase Roberts, who

463
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<v Speaker 2>we happened to have on the show with us today, the.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Guy that put it all together. Chase, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks for having me.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is like really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean was showing me these and I thought, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, it's kind of a neat way for children

471
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<v Speaker 1>to understand technology, and it makes bleaky things go, and

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<v Speaker 1>he could flip switches and everything. What made you decide

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of put this all together?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, It was a bunch of different things. Probably

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<v Speaker 4>the main driver was when my wife and I first

476
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<v Speaker 4>had our baby. He was maybe one at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and he loved light switches and I would just hold

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<v Speaker 4>him next to a light switch and he would flip

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<v Speaker 4>it and then turn and make sure that like the

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<v Speaker 4>light turned on, and then he would turn back and

481
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<v Speaker 4>flip it again and turn and he would just he

482
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<v Speaker 4>would do that for an hour if I could hold

483
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<v Speaker 4>him that long.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally I was like, we got to just move this

486
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<v Speaker 4>into a sit down experience because my back hurts. So

487
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<v Speaker 4>that was kind of like the main driver. Another partial

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<v Speaker 4>inspiration was when I was going to university. There was

489
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<v Speaker 4>a book that I saw floating around on the internet

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<v Speaker 4>called HTML for Babies. Yes, and I got married, I

491
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<v Speaker 4>had my kid. Somebody bought me that book and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going through it and it was just garbage. They just

493
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<v Speaker 4>took random words and put little brackets around it, and

494
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<v Speaker 4>it was like doll with brackets, and I'm like, that's

495
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<v Speaker 4>not HTML, that's just word those just baby words with brackets.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So kind of those two experiences came together, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, what if we made a book that actually

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<v Speaker 4>delivered on the promise of kind of introducing just like

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<v Speaker 4>these basic concepts. And I studied computer engineering in school,

501
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<v Speaker 4>and like, you know, I'm learning about these different gates

502
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<v Speaker 4>or gates and and gates, and I'm like, this stuff

503
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<v Speaker 4>is simple enough that a baby one or two or

504
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<v Speaker 4>three years could pick this up and could play with

505
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<v Speaker 4>it and learn it and like understand what's going on,

506
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<v Speaker 4>and and gate is not that terribly complicated. So I

507
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<v Speaker 4>just all of those kind of came together, and five

508
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<v Speaker 4>years later, I've watched a Kickstarter and it did really well,

509
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<v Speaker 4>And so I've continued making books and here I am

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<v Speaker 4>what were.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the big steps you had take to get

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<v Speaker 2>the book out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man, so many.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just figuring out how to make something that

515
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<v Speaker 4>could be produced in a large scale is just so difficult.

516
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it doesn't seem like it should be difficult,

517
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<v Speaker 4>but like if you've never done it before and you're

518
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<v Speaker 4>figuring it out yourself, there's just so many hurdles that

519
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<v Speaker 4>you get stuck on that you would never expect. I

520
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<v Speaker 4>thought I knew how to make a circuit board, and

521
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<v Speaker 4>so I kind of designed my own board and I

522
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<v Speaker 4>had originally laid it out with discrete chips for the

523
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<v Speaker 4>and gate and the ore gate and everything, and I

524
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<v Speaker 4>had the board made and then I'm trying to populate

525
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<v Speaker 4>the board and I have no soldering skills because I've

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<v Speaker 4>been working in app development for the.

527
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<v Speaker 3>Last ten years.

528
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<v Speaker 4>So I've got my soldering iron out and I'm so

529
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<v Speaker 4>bad at it populated the whole board, and of course

530
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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't work. Just that process, you know, you learn like, oh,

531
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<v Speaker 4>here's where why it's not working, and you figure it out,

532
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<v Speaker 4>and then you iterate. It took me ten prototypes to

533
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<v Speaker 4>get something that kind of worked. The prototyping phase was

534
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<v Speaker 4>just iteration. After iteration, I almost gave up on it

535
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<v Speaker 4>several times because I don't know about you guys, but

536
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<v Speaker 4>I get a new idea and I get so excited

537
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<v Speaker 4>about doing something new. New things are shiny, you know,

538
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<v Speaker 4>and it's like I love new shiny things. Yeah, and

539
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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to put energy into older ideas. Finally, my wife, though,

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<v Speaker 4>she was like, look, you're getting distracted with all these

541
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<v Speaker 4>different things, like that computer engineering for babies idea, that's

542
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<v Speaker 4>your best one. Like you should just finish that idea

543
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<v Speaker 4>before you get too distracted on some of these others.

544
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<v Speaker 3>So she really pushed me to finish the book.

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<v Speaker 4>And in my mind, finishing was just like I got

546
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<v Speaker 4>to get this to Kickstarter and put it out there.

547
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<v Speaker 3>My expectation was I'll put.

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<v Speaker 4>It on Kickstarter, friends and family will maybe chip in

549
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<v Speaker 4>a couple grand and the project will not fund on Kickstarter,

550
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<v Speaker 4>and I'll end up kicking in ten thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 4>my own money to do a production run of a

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<v Speaker 4>thousand books, and then I'll hand them out to trig

553
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<v Speaker 4>or treaters every Heleneen.

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<v Speaker 3>That was what I expected.

555
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<v Speaker 1>It had a different effect, though, didn't.

556
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<v Speaker 4>It way surpassed expectations. Just I did that and I

557
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<v Speaker 4>posted it to a Kickstarter and all my friends and

558
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<v Speaker 4>family and it raised one thousand or two and then

559
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<v Speaker 4>I was like, well what next? And I thought, well,

560
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<v Speaker 4>I should post this to Reddit because I'm a casual

561
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<v Speaker 4>Reddit user, so there's an Arduino subreddit, and I posted

562
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<v Speaker 4>it there. I was thinking, like, these are my people.

563
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<v Speaker 4>If anybody's going to like get it, like, it's the

564
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<v Speaker 4>Arduino guys, right, And it was made like the first

565
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<v Speaker 4>versions were made with an Arduino. I got away from

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<v Speaker 4>discrete chips because I needed the analog to digital converters.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the book, and it uses light sensors to

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<v Speaker 4>know which page you're open to because it's the same

569
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<v Speaker 4>two buttons on every page, and so their little holes

570
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<v Speaker 4>cut in the corner of the page and those let

571
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<v Speaker 4>light in. And there's light sensors in the very back

572
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<v Speaker 4>flip book. There's a circuit board and there's some photo

573
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<v Speaker 4>transistors that that we're pulling to see how much light

574
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<v Speaker 4>is coming into each through each hole. And then based

575
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<v Speaker 4>on those light readings, were able to figure out okay,

576
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<v Speaker 4>they're on page.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, got it all right?

578
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<v Speaker 4>Originally I was trying to just do discrete components. It

579
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<v Speaker 4>wasn't working to just these light sensors to be a

580
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<v Speaker 4>boolean on or off. It needed it needed some more

581
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<v Speaker 4>nuanced than that. So I needed the analog to digital

582
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<v Speaker 4>converters of a micro controller and to be able to

583
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<v Speaker 4>write code to say like, Okay, if this one's coming

584
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<v Speaker 4>in really bright and this one's really dim, then you know,

585
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<v Speaker 4>this page is probably closed, whereas before, you know, if

586
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<v Speaker 4>you're in a really bright environment, even if the page

587
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<v Speaker 4>is closed, it might still it might still get some

588
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<v Speaker 4>light coming in, you know, if you're outside on a

589
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<v Speaker 4>bright day, you know. And then how does that differ

590
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<v Speaker 4>from if you're in a dark room and you're on

591
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<v Speaker 4>the last page and all the sensors are open, you know.

592
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<v Speaker 4>So there's just kind of tuning for different light environments.

593
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<v Speaker 4>I'm using it on Arduino now, and so I thought, okay,

594
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<v Speaker 4>the Ardueno subreddit, those are my people. They're gonna love this,

595
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<v Speaker 4>and I kind of posted it, and then my family

596
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 4>we went camping, and so I'm up in the mountains

597
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 4>and I'm checking my phone and I'm not even looking

598
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 4>at the kickstarter anymore. I'm just looking at Reddit because

599
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<v Speaker 4>I've never had a Reddit post do so well in

600
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<v Speaker 4>my entire life, Like, it's just so many, It's getting

601
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<v Speaker 4>so many up votes, and every time I check it,

602
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<v Speaker 4>it's got another one hundred, one hundred and fifty up votes,

603
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just blown away. I'm like, oh my god,

604
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 4>people love my It was just this stupid video that

605
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<v Speaker 4>I made of me like holding the book going through

606
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<v Speaker 4>it anyway, and I was like, people are like, people

607
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<v Speaker 4>are loving it, and it's getting so many up votes.

608
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<v Speaker 3>So I was just really exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>And then at the end of the day, I think

610
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<v Speaker 4>the first day it had raised like twelve thousand dollars

611
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<v Speaker 4>and my goal was like ten.

612
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<v Speaker 3>Mind blown that I was able to do this. On

613
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<v Speaker 3>the first day.

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<v Speaker 2>I found your book via probably that Redd boast. Oh

615
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<v Speaker 2>really yeah yeah, I mean that's where I found it.

616
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<v Speaker 2>It came on Reddit, and then I went to your

617
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<v Speaker 2>kickstarted and I kickstarted it. The power of the Internet. Man,

618
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<v Speaker 2>it's I'm a big techi, right, And I just saw

619
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<v Speaker 2>I saw this. I wanted always wanted to build something

620
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<v Speaker 2>with latches, buttons. I was going to build my own

621
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<v Speaker 2>so we could have light switches, LEDs all stuff, and

622
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<v Speaker 2>then I saw this was like, this is it. This

623
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<v Speaker 2>is what I wanted to build and he built it.

624
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<v Speaker 2>He built it, so it's incredible. And it's the people

625
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<v Speaker 2>that I've shown it to they're like, oh, what, what's

626
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<v Speaker 2>that computer y? And then they flipped through it and

627
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 2>they go, oh, this makes sense and you can see

628
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<v Speaker 2>them in their brain the processes are cooking. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's really just a cool a unique concept that you

630
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<v Speaker 2>said took something is very simple and just made an

631
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<v Speaker 2>awesome product.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of it. Well, everything could be and I don't

633
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<v Speaker 1>know if you've found this out chased, but everything could

634
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<v Speaker 1>be a learning experience for a child, especially with if

635
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<v Speaker 1>this then, because you know it's all causet effect. They

636
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<v Speaker 1>you know, yesterday my grandson was over and we were like,

637
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<v Speaker 1>he was playing around with a flashlight. It's an animal

638
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 1>flashlight and it was having so much fun with it

639
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 1>because I showed him how it turns off and on,

640
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<v Speaker 1>and that was what was kind of an experience with him.

641
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<v Speaker 1>And I think the books kind of help establish that

642
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<v Speaker 1>if then that you know that cause it effect. Kids

643
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<v Speaker 1>really like that because then I feel like they're in

644
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<v Speaker 1>control of it in some ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, for younger kids, it's just about smashing

646
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<v Speaker 4>buttons and seeing lights turn on. Yeah, but as they

647
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<v Speaker 4>get a little bit older, you know, and even like

648
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<v Speaker 4>I've had people report, oh, yeah, my two year old's

649
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 4>finally figured out the and gate, you know, and it's

650
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<v Speaker 4>like you got to press both at the same time

651
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<v Speaker 4>to get it to light up. And like it's just

652
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<v Speaker 4>kind of fun to see kids, you know, play with it.

653
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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, originally it's just like hitting the button seeing

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<v Speaker 4>a light turn on. But then like they start to

655
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<v Speaker 4>learn that, oh, each page is different, Like there's just

656
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<v Speaker 4>there's some subtleties here, and they start to kind of

657
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<v Speaker 4>figure those out, and that's and that's fun to be

658
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<v Speaker 4>a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Could this turn into Chase even more? I mean we

660
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<v Speaker 1>have the two now, right, could there be more in

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<v Speaker 1>this in like a series of books or even maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a different type of media.

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<v Speaker 4>I've thought a lot about how to do a third

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<v Speaker 4>computer engineering for babies book. I'd really like to get

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<v Speaker 4>something that goes all the way to like a working

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<v Speaker 4>computer that could run instructions.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, but I don't. I don't think it's gonna happen

668
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<v Speaker 3>in a baby book.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there's just too many there's too many steps that

670
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<v Speaker 4>I would want to like hit. It seems unfair to

671
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<v Speaker 4>be like, Okay, we've done mux's, we've done decoders. Here's

672
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<v Speaker 4>an adder, here's an ALU, and here's a program counter,

673
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<v Speaker 4>and now you've got a computer.

674
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<v Speaker 3>This is like a big leap.

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<v Speaker 2>So take a step back, right. So you published the

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<v Speaker 2>first one through kickstary, it funded, it did really well.

677
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<v Speaker 2>Then you decided, well, let's make a second book. Talked

678
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that step in deciding, well, here's

679
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<v Speaker 2>the first one. Let's let's make it a whole other book.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the first one. I don't know why.

681
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<v Speaker 4>I felt like, hey, we should, we should do a sequel,

682
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<v Speaker 4>and I got really excited about the idea of having

683
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<v Speaker 4>switches instead of buttons. I guess I was looking at

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<v Speaker 4>some of the next components that you learn when you're

685
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<v Speaker 4>taking computer engineering at the university, you know, and it's like, well,

686
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<v Speaker 4>after you learn about gates, then you learn about multiplexers

687
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<v Speaker 4>and decoders, and so I was kind of thinking, all right,

688
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<v Speaker 4>let's do those and you get the switches in and

689
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<v Speaker 4>there's only two switches in the book. Some of my

690
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<v Speaker 4>prototypes had like six switches, so that you could really

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<v Speaker 4>control every input signal for the for the book. I

692
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<v Speaker 4>ended up getting away from that, just to simplify. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's two switches.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to design like each page show you so

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<v Speaker 1>you have the page it flips, so so you had

696
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<v Speaker 1>to design, Okay, the cutout is going to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where the switch is going to go,

698
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<v Speaker 1>and how this is going to apply to that page

699
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<v Speaker 1>and then the next page. It's it all had to

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<v Speaker 1>flow together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just designing. I mean, because you can't move the

702
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<v Speaker 4>switches around, so it's like, okay, graphically, we have to

703
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<v Speaker 4>fit everything into this area, you know, on each page

704
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<v Speaker 4>because we need room for the switches and the LEDs

705
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<v Speaker 4>and those can't move because we're reusing them on each page.

706
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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of design stuff that goes in

707
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<v Speaker 4>and my wife's really good at that. She helps me

708
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<v Speaker 4>figure all that stuff out because I'm just like, get

709
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<v Speaker 4>something that functions that's made out of cardboard and we're there.

710
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 4>She's like, no, it's got to be pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>How does the book chase get it it? It sounds

712
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<v Speaker 1>weird to ask, but how does it get its power?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a small battery in the back, so

714
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<v Speaker 4>it's it's battery powered.

715
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<v Speaker 1>Sean is a big fan of it and from what

716
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<v Speaker 1>we've seen so far, his kids love it. I think

717
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 1>other listeners who have kids grandkids like me would love

718
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 1>it as well. And again it's kind of an introductory

719
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<v Speaker 1>experience to that POSETI effect if this, then that and

720
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<v Speaker 1>the kind of a study in engineering which doesn't hurt,

721
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to introduce them to that stuff and make it fun.

722
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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. They seem to have fun with it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you had kids, you know, you get married, you

724
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<v Speaker 1>have kids. Yeah, it doesn't it kind of change your

725
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>world a little because I know for Shana did I've

726
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<v Speaker 1>known since you know.

727
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 3>He's had his kids usually changes your world.

728
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yes, yeah, all of a sudden, your your free

729
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 4>time is next to zero, and like just the things

730
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 4>that you're concerned, like the problems you have are so

731
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<v Speaker 4>much different than before you had kids, right yep. Now

732
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<v Speaker 4>it's like how do I keep my kids silent on

733
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 4>an airplane for four hours?

734
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

735
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<v Speaker 4>Like that's that's my biggest problem. That was actually another

736
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<v Speaker 4>like inspiration for the book. It was like I don't

737
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<v Speaker 4>want it to make noise. I don't want there to

738
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<v Speaker 4>be a speaker on it. I just want it like

739
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<v Speaker 4>to be as quiet as possible. Like the buttons still

740
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<v Speaker 4>make a little bit of a clickity clock noise when

741
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<v Speaker 4>you click them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like this can be used on an airplane.

743
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<v Speaker 4>That was kind of one of the requirements is like,

744
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 4>this will not drive anybody too crazy, you know.

745
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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

746
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<v Speaker 2>Now that we've talked about the book, where can our

747
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>listeners go pick up a copy of this book or both?

748
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I just sell them primarily on my website

749
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<v Speaker 4>computer Engineering for Babies dot com. Or if you just

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<v Speaker 4>search computer engineering for Babies, like I think it's the

751
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<v Speaker 4>first thing that shows up.

752
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Cool. We'll put a link on our blog and our

753
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>website as well, but computer Engineering for Babies dot com. Well,

754
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>hope our listeners check this out. I want to thank

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00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you for spending the time with us and coming on

756
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 1>and talking about it some great stuff.

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00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, thank you Chase for coming on tech Talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Andy Taylor.

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00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm shan to Weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find us on YouTube he tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody knows that I love go Bro and DJA,

764
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<v Speaker 2>and I love action cameras. Yeah, but I'm going to

765
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<v Speaker 2>rattle off a couple of companies that tried to get

766
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<v Speaker 2>into the action camp business, and somebodys are still available.

767
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<v Speaker 2>Well that you that you would not think, why would

768
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<v Speaker 2>they make an action camp, or maybe they did buy

769
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<v Speaker 2>an action camp and you own one, Like if you

770
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<v Speaker 2>own one of these companies action cams, let me know

771
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<v Speaker 2>because I'd love to.

772
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get.

773
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<v Speaker 2>Nikon.

774
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Really, I didn't know they made one.

775
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 2>It made a one hundred and seventy degree field of

776
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>view and a three sixty camp called the Key Mission.

777
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird it's the it's weird looking, but it's pretty.

778
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<v Speaker 1>Well all right, Kodak Kodeak really.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right? I say that you think, Wait, an analog

780
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>company like film Company, you know, they have an action camp.

781
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<v Speaker 2>It's called the sp one Action Camera. It's still available

782
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>for two or forty nine dollars. Well, I don't think

783
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>it's very good. Yeah, I would have to try one

784
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>or get one to try it. Contour that's a company,

785
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 2>that's just it's their own company. They made one. It

786
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 2>was pretty popular.

787
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Garman Garman made an action camera.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the verb Vir. Wow, it's no longer available.

789
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It it was pretty widely popular for you know the

790
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<v Speaker 2>people that used Garmen pretty exclusively Sony made one wow,

791
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<v Speaker 2>very very early on right with like very poor not

792
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 2>poor resolution, but like just basic HD like ten eighty

793
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<v Speaker 2>p sixty Yeah uh. And then Polaroid.

794
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Poll on Polaroid. The company will just not go away.

795
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>It just keeps saying, now people want our stuff, and

796
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>then they put it out and people buy their stuff.

797
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>But I think the Polaroid one is just a joke

798
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 2>because you can get it for nineteen ninety nine apparently.

799
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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, so Vivitar did one, and I remember Gloria

800
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<v Speaker 1>was at Big Lots and she saw him for twenty

801
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<v Speaker 1>bucks twenty five dollars and bought two of them with

802
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 1>the idea of giving them as gifts, and we never did.

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00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I still have them wrapped up in the boxes. We

804
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>should give one away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, I mean, it's it's pretty wild just to

806
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 2>think those companies like made these action cameras that just

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<v Speaker 2>these prominent companies back, you know, film and digital camera

808
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 2>companies made these huge leaps and trying to be in

809
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<v Speaker 2>that actually and then it just fell apart. Yes, you

810
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't compete with GoPro dji into three sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>You just couldn't compete, all right, We have listener questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one coming from our old stomping grounds of Lakinta.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from Martha. And you know, honestly, you may

814
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<v Speaker 1>run into the same thing. You may have been told

815
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<v Speaker 1>something when it comes to technology, and you may have

816
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 1>not understood what the rampifications or implications were. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Hey guys, I have a bunch of old

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<v Speaker 1>games on an old Windows XP computer, okay, and I

819
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<v Speaker 1>really like playing them. I remember my mom used to

820
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<v Speaker 1>play a slot machine game on hers and she loved it.

821
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<v Speaker 1>And the email goes on and says, my friend told

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<v Speaker 1>me just having it, which would be Windows XP on,

823
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<v Speaker 1>could just having the computer on could get it infected

824
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<v Speaker 1>with a virus because it sold. Is that true? I

825
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<v Speaker 1>don't think the old games are infected with viruses. Would

826
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<v Speaker 1>love to know. Again, that's Martha and Lakinta. There have

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<v Speaker 1>been people who've been told don't plug, don't turn on

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<v Speaker 1>your Windows XP computer because it could get you a virus.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may be thinking, well, how could I get

830
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<v Speaker 1>a virus? There are some things to think about though.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a Windows XP computer and you want

832
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<v Speaker 1>to use it, and you do have those old games

833
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<v Speaker 1>like my mom's slot machine game or maybe you have

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<v Speaker 1>you know a tomb Raider or we've talked about that

835
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<v Speaker 1>was a fun game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I spent a lot of time playing that game

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<v Speaker 2>on the PlayStation. I have one very vivid memory of

838
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<v Speaker 2>that game. Do you It's so you when you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a game and you know you're coming up against a

840
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<v Speaker 2>boss or yeah, you don't save now because it's all

841
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<v Speaker 2>cloud save rubber, but you always had to save.

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<v Speaker 1>Your game right back then.

843
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 2>And I was deep into I was several hours in game,

844
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.159
<v Speaker 2>right and I ended up like leaping out of a

845
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 2>window on accident and I panic saved.

846
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, mid air, So what happened every time the game?

847
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I just hit the ground and died. But there was

848
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 2>no you know, I hadn't.

849
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Saved other than that, so there was no going back.

850
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 2>So Turm Raader, that's my Turm Rader.

851
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but I love it.

852
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the old games are are fun. They're nostalgic, right,

853
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, always hold up right.

854
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, we've we've talked about you know, we've talked about

855
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Good Old Games, which is a great website you find

856
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 1>some of the older games that will run on your

857
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 1>your equipment now and it's funny though I've done this before.

858
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Castle Wolfenstein or Wolfenstein is one of those

859
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 1>where I went back to play in it and I

860
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>forgot back then the graphics were amazing. But you take

861
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a look at it now and it's like, whoa, I

862
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 1>actually played this and liked it because there are a

863
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>lot different.

864
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's take it. Let's take a time machine

865
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and go back two decades, go back twenty years.

866
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two thousand and three.

867
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I know that's weird to say this, twenty over twenty

868
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>years ago. PC magazine, pc Gamer, all these games they

869
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:19.079
<v Speaker 2>came with demo CDs.

870
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep, they used to come on the show all the time.

871
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>PC Gamer used to come on tech Talk. Yeah.

872
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 2>And I had a disc for Apergy Games.

873
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I remember that.

874
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I had a list, had just had a handful of

875
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>games from Apage Games. And I played the ever living

876
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>crap out of those games on the app, just the demos.

877
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know they always said here, it's not share where,

878
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 2>don't sell it, it's not free. But it never bought

879
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the full versions.

880
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>He had playing the games. Yeah.

881
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, About five or six years ago, I started came

882
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>stumbled across good old games and I just started looking

883
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 2>up these games, and I used to play Blake Stone,

884
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Aliens of Goal, Focus, Pocus Hexin. All these are much

885
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 2>time I've sunk into these old games again because it's

886
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 2>so nostalgic for me.

887
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember do you remember Nocturnal? Oh yeah, yeah,

888
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>that was a good one as well.

889
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, So I mean, yes, there are ways to

890
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>play old games now. In reference to the XP computer,

891
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>don't connect it to the internet, all right, so you

892
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 2>can turn.

893
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>It on, just don't have it connected to the internet.

894
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 2>There's actually a lot of people of the current generation

895
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 2>want XP machines to run XP because of the Pinball game,

896
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a couple of the solitaire games, Mind Sleep, et cetera

897
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that you can't get now that are don't come with

898
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Windows anymore. So there are some nostalgia games on there

899
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that you can keep. But if you have the hardware

900
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's running like you can keep it and keep

901
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 2>playing those games. But there are there are alternatives to

902
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 2>getting some of those games, maybe as digital remakes or remasters.

903
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that Blizzard Activision remade a handful of the

904
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 2>World of Warcraft games as new capable Windows eleven capable

905
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 2>versions of Warcraft one ORCS and Humans Workcraft three, Warkcraft two,

906
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a couple of those older games that are you know,

907
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>capable of running on newer systems versus running on XP

908
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 2>or older systems.

909
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if I was to go back and play

910
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like one game, one game that I used to play

911
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot, it got a lot of my time, was

912
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>from a company of Nova Logic if you remember them,

913
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and they put out a game called Joint Ops and

914
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 1>it was like a military shooter. You know, I want

915
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 1>to say it's not first person. I want to say,

916
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it was like a third person shooter game, you know,

917
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>from behind, and it was just I spent so much

918
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 1>time playing that. And again that's one of those games

919
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>where I saw it, you know recently. Wow, that was

920
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 1>really the graphics that were just not that great, but

921
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they held they held my attention back then. Fun game.

922
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 3>What about you?

923
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>One game if you go back to and play then,

924
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>which one? Diablo two?

925
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hands down, hands down the game I've spent at

926
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the most time in my life playing is day Able two.

927
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Played it when it was new in two thousand and

928
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>one or two thousand and two, whenever it came out.

929
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>The expansion for Diabloto, Lord of Destruction came out, when

930
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I was a senior in high school, and this was

931
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 2>really my first foray into trying figuring out how to

932
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 2>connect multiple computers together to play.

933
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Games right right, PC games, Oh yeah.

934
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And trying to play on a forty four K dial

935
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>up modive man, because that's all we had in my

936
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 2>house growing up. It was forty four were we were

937
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 2>good lucky if we got forty four K on a

938
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 2>good day. But being able to this is fun. This

939
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>is a fun computer story. My friend Karl and I

940
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>loved playing and we always wanted to play online together

941
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>because he would always be at my house. He spent

942
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time on my house growing up, but

943
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.280
<v Speaker 2>his cousin lived in Scatville and we would always wanted

944
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to play together. So we figured out how to take

945
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 2>my parents' computer at the desktop and use the dial

946
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 2>up modem. But then we bridged the one hundred meg

947
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 2>network Nick and did a crossover cable to a laptop,

948
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>so shared the Internet across the internal on board. Nick.

949
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:26.639
<v Speaker 1>That's how you had a land party, I mean, yeah.

950
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Both competing so that both computers could be on the

951
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Internet at the same time. Now, Diablo two is not

952
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>an intrue very intensive game, so we were successfully did

953
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 2>this for a lot a long time where he would

954
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>be playing on the laptop and I'd be playing on

955
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the desktop, and we had a great experience online, which

956
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>was weird to say, but it's it. That's kind of

957
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>my first real like computer networking story that I have

958
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>thinking back on how I connected to play Diabo two

959
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 2>unbettled in.

960
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 1>So Okay, So for for Martha, honestly, you have a

961
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Windows xpeak computer, you want to use it, maybe your

962
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 1>programs are on there, you know, your photos. Just the

963
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 1>good safety tip would be just don't connect it to

964
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the internet. Just turning it on is not gonna get

965
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>you infected unless it's already infected, you know. So again

966
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you should be okay to to go ahead and do that,

967
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking to the internet. I recently talked with

968
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine named Chad who is is not

969
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>very unhappy. He lives in cebody to He's very unhappy

970
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>with the internet service he's been getting. So he asked me,

971
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 1>he said, uh, what do I think about starlink because

972
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 1>his options are limited? And you know, I said, I

973
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>really don't know too much about it. Uh, And you know,

974
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's any listeners that have starlink

975
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 1>that are in sebody. I would love to hear your

976
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 1>thoughts of how this has worked for you, and it's

977
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>very just try me aligned h. Tech guys at tech

978
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 1>talk radio dot com. Have you heard anything, Sean. I mean,

979
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I know you're in Indiana. Are people using it there?

980
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>If there, if you've heard any reviews on it at all.

981
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 2>So my experience with starlink is very limited. In the

982
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>broadcast industry, it's actually widely used as a I don't

983
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>want to say a tertiary backup, but like, so, you

984
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 2>have an uplink truck, so you go to do an event,

985
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>and you have an uplink truck that is connected to

986
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the Internet. So that's their main transmission path, right the Internet,

987
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:31.000
<v Speaker 2>public and public Internet or connectic Ata fiber. Okay, So

988
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>if that connection goes down or it gets overloaded in

989
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the bandwidth stinks, you go to what they call terrestrial backup,

990
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 2>which is just a satellite uplink truck that has a

991
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 2>big satellite dish on it and uses it actually hits

992
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 2>a transponder on a satellite and the up transmits and

993
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>decodes the single A lot of places are skipping that

994
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 2>second step of a bringing an UPLATEK truck and just

995
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>relying on one, two or three Starlink modules bonded together. Okay,

996
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>so then they use that as their Internet backup, so

997
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>they have their primary video transmission path, using up whatever

998
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>their bandwidth is on that. But then they offload all

999
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 2>of their you know internet you know the up you

1000
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 2>know for downloaded files or just using the internet off

1001
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>to starlink, but keeping that as their backup path for

1002
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>their transmission if needed. And that seems to be the

1003
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>going thing now is these remote productions when you can't

1004
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 2>get a satellite truck it's too expensive. They're just relying

1005
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 2>on starlink but bonding multiple units together and then on

1006
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting it, receiving it on the other end.

1007
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 2>So that's my only experience with starlink. I know that

1008
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 2>my parents have looked at it for Internet at their

1009
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 2>house because they still can't get They live out in

1010
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the boonies in northern Michigan, and no very rule, no

1011
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>company's gonna run four thousand feet of cable to my

1012
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 2>parents' house to service one address. Right, It's like it

1013
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't maybe.

1014
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, So so here's here's a good good thing.

1015
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>To think about. From what I understood, starlink does a

1016
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 1>thirty day trial. As far as you know, you can

1017
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>get the equipment, test it out, see if it works

1018
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>for you. If it doesn't work for you, you should

1019
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to And again it's going to depend on

1020
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 1>where you're buying it from. You might want a check.

1021
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 1>You should be able to take it back and then

1022
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>be able to say it just didn't work for you.

1023
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 1>So again that's something to think about.

1024
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 2>The key the key thing about starlink though, is too

1025
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>is if you want to it's you can get stuck

1026
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>because you can. I don't know if they bundled it

1027
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>all together now, but it's there's a residential module and

1028
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 2>then there's the mobile module, right, so there's two different

1029
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>modules that they sell. One is for you always keep

1030
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 2>it at your house, and then the other one you

1031
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>pay a higher premium for it, but you can go

1032
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>on top of your RV and you can use it

1033
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 2>while traveling. So just keep in mind if you're looking

1034
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>for that, if you plan on traveling. I know Arizona

1035
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>is a big destination for r V ers. You're looking

1036
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>at it for traveling, you might need to just do

1037
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more research on what it's going to

1038
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.960
<v Speaker 2>cost you to be mobile and have access in places

1039
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna be traveling.

1040
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 1>All right, we gotta take another quick break. We come

1041
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,

1042
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm Seanda Weird.

1043
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Find us on the web at tech talk radio dot com.

1044
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back and now fact to tech Talk Radio.

1045
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Want to thank our guest again coming on earlier today

1046
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>with us, Chase Roberts, who's got these two really great

1047
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 1>books that John you found and told us about you

1048
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>found through a kickstarter, which was pretty amazing stuff.

1049
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, in the interview, right, he talks about how

1050
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.320
<v Speaker 2>he posted on Reddit, and that's I'm pretty fairly certain

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I found out about these books. Was just

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<v Speaker 2>browsing on Reddit and came across it and they just

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<v Speaker 2>went and bottom because I was like these you'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, you heard in the interview, like

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about how I wanted to build something like

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<v Speaker 2>this for Max and then he did it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is great. So just we're gonna push

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<v Speaker 2>his website.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is it? Website?

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<v Speaker 2>Computer Engineering for Babies dot com?

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<v Speaker 1>Computer Engineering for Babies dot Is that b A B

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<v Speaker 1>I E S.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do com Yeah, restrating for babies dot com. Just

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<v Speaker 2>I highly encourage you if you have kids in the

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<v Speaker 2>two to three to four year old range. My kids

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<v Speaker 2>love these books. You could tell. I showed him in

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<v Speaker 2>the interview. They're beat up, they've got teethmarks on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Max tripped out one of the Max up the paper

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<v Speaker 2>off one of the pages. But it's so much fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch them figure out how the buttons work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we will say it's cool. We will say he

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<v Speaker 1>is working on something else that he told us biting.

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<v Speaker 2>On a new book that I'm so excited for. And

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<v Speaker 2>I hope when he listens to this he will send

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<v Speaker 2>me a prototype because I would low to play that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll keep you posted on that again. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>follow him on the website and then you could order

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<v Speaker 1>the books there. They'll all all the information you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find. What to thank him again for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Hopefully next week everybody will be back

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a little better. I know that Justin was been

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<v Speaker 1>on the weather and Matt's got some stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back with more of tech Talk Radio

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<v Speaker 1>next week as well. I'm Andy Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Seanda Wird. You can follow us on the world

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<v Speaker 2>wide Web. Talk radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great way, m HM.