Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 4: This episode, we got an exciting guest, somebody that I
Speaker 4: booked a few weeks ago and I've been looking forward
Speaker 4: to it ever since then. But before we introduce Michael Wan,
Speaker 4: we're going to introduce the rest of the rejects with
Speaker 4: us tonight. And today we got Heidi Love the Mormon Slayer.
Speaker 4: What is going on?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me
Speaker 5: much love to all the rejects. Thank you so much
Speaker 5: for having me on with Michael Wan. I've been looking
Speaker 5: forward to this a bunch.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much for joining us. And we
Speaker 2: got Ricardo. What is going on?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: How are you today?
Speaker 6: Good evening? Thank you for having me. Excited to hear
Speaker 6: from Make one.
Speaker 2: Yes, would you like to plug your stuff? Sir? Sure?
Speaker 6: Sure, Sorry. I was closing YouTube because I'm hearing myself
Speaker 6: and I was trying to figure out what's going on here.
Speaker 4: That's happened to me before, and then my mixer picks up.
Speaker 2: It's a total mess.
Speaker 7: So my name is Cavar.
Speaker 6: I'm multi disciplinary researcher, and I work with Institute for
Speaker 6: Natural Philosophy. So I suggest everyone to go into Institute
Speaker 6: for Natural Philosophy dot org. You'll find out magazine Pharaohs,
Speaker 6: You'll find sites where you can go and contact us
Speaker 6: if you want to participate in something, if you have ideas, whatever,
Speaker 6: just let us know.
Speaker 2: Thank you, awesome, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Before we bring on the guests, I do want to
Speaker 4: measure a Hellish Giant might be joining us. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna haven't plugged your show when he does, so I'll
Speaker 4: do that now just in case Hellless does show up.
Speaker 2: Check out the Hellish Giant podcast and.
Speaker 4: If you got any weird paranormal or stories or whatever
Speaker 4: that you want to share that we read on Thursday nights,
Speaker 4: send it to Healla Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: I think that's it, so send it to there and
Speaker 4: we'll read your story on a Thursday night. Or you
Speaker 4: could just d m him on Twitter or Instagram and
Speaker 4: let him know what's up. And finally, now to Mike, sir,
Speaker 4: what is going on? I'll try to Susquanna Alchemy. I
Speaker 4: probably fucked it up again, but that's.
Speaker 8: Perfect all right.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: In fact, I'm gonna start calling it that. It's it's music,
Speaker 8: it's music with these ears.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: So please let everybody know where they can find all
Speaker 4: your amazing work and what and what do you deal is?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 3: Well how about this, I'll go and I'll talk and
Speaker 3: if anyone wants if they like what they hear, they'll
Speaker 3: have to listen to the end.
Speaker 8: And that way they'll find out where they could get me.
Speaker 2: I like that. That's something different. I've never had to
Speaker 2: guess say that before. I like that.
Speaker 3: Can I just like jump right in and and you've
Speaker 3: got me like on the edge of my seat. So
Speaker 3: you said, like, if anyone wants to go and share
Speaker 3: like a strange cultic story, send it to me at
Speaker 3: this email address. And I want to tell you my story.
Speaker 3: I want to type it up. I just want to
Speaker 3: tell you right here. Because I was thinking, like has
Speaker 3: listened to the introductions, I was like, I live underneath it,
Speaker 3: I live under a rock.
Speaker 8: I've never heard of your show before.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard of anyone shows, but I love the name,
Speaker 3: and so I just liked the name.
Speaker 8: I'm like, yeah, I want to come on the show.
Speaker 3: And as I was listening to introductions, I'm like, am
Speaker 3: I I don't even know exactly the depth of what
Speaker 3: a cult rejects means, but I'm like, I'm in a
Speaker 3: cult reject and so that's what my story is for you,
Speaker 3: and I'll try to keep it brief.
Speaker 2: No, no, go for it.
Speaker 3: The very information, the very information which we're probably going
Speaker 3: to talk about a little bit. Literally on my fiftieth
Speaker 3: birthday and there was a solar eclipse. So my fiftieth birthday,
Speaker 3: I get an email. I get an email and it's like,
Speaker 3: dear Mike Wang, I know you work. I'm such and such.
Speaker 3: I'm a thirty three degree Freemason. I'm part of this
Speaker 3: this particular lodge, and I also run this like sub
Speaker 3: freemason group where we like to like really delve down into.
Speaker 2: Esoter topics, probably like a specific thing right.
Speaker 8: Focus you to come and present at our quarterly meeting.
Speaker 8: Not anything like this.
Speaker 3: And I'm not in any clubs, if anything, like the
Speaker 3: clubs are the bad guys of my stories. But it's
Speaker 3: on my fiftieth birthday and there is a solar clips
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 8: Like, all this sort of stuff meant to be.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you're familiar with any of
Speaker 3: my work. But how I like to do research, It's
Speaker 3: a gonzo research. Like my life, my actual life experiences
Speaker 3: are is integrated in the research as research itself because
Speaker 3: that's the only thing I can know which isn't bold shit, right,
Speaker 3: because I've lived in so a lot of my research
Speaker 3: though it does deal with like like unexplainable things that
Speaker 3: look real fishy. I talk a lot of bit about
Speaker 3: ritual sacrifice and and long and short of it, like
Speaker 3: there this invitation lined up on seven different levels of
Speaker 3: the ritual sacrifice presentation.
Speaker 8: I gave on Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3: Oh, like like the day, like there were seven levels.
Speaker 3: I won't go down those details if you want to,
Speaker 3: I will, but like, like I had enough stuff inside.
Speaker 8: Where I'm like, fuck, if if.
Speaker 3: There really are doing ritual sacrifice, this is what an
Speaker 3: invitation would look like. And I had to sit with
Speaker 3: myself for like three weeks because it was like six
Speaker 3: weeks in advanced the invitation, and I was like, do
Speaker 3: I really think they're gonna kill me? Do I really
Speaker 3: think they're going to invite me there? Because all of
Speaker 3: the signs were there, which I say, look, there's the
Speaker 3: signs of the ritual sacrifice and it's like, so I
Speaker 3: still with it for three weeks, and then at the
Speaker 3: end of it, I'm like, of course I'm going to go.
Speaker 8: And do this, but I kind of take your friends.
Speaker 5: I took a buddy system.
Speaker 3: Totally, like you know, a little bit like milking it.
Speaker 3: Like part of it's like it's a fun drama, and
Speaker 3: part of it's like, but this is really happening, and
Speaker 3: all this stuff I'm telling my inner circle and they're like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna come with you.
Speaker 5: Lily would take them.
Speaker 8: Three people who came and hit.
Speaker 3: It was in the back of a restaurant outside of Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: and I had three people in the in the front
Speaker 3: who are like there for my protection. So long and
Speaker 3: short of it, it was I go and I give
Speaker 3: this presentation. And they were like just like an immensely
Speaker 3: like uh like graceful group.
Speaker 8: The guy and that was great.
Speaker 3: Like all of my images of what I thought I
Speaker 3: was stepping into it didn't happen. They're more interested in
Speaker 3: like the drinks than what I was presenting. And so
Speaker 3: at the end of the presentation, I flipped the script
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 8: I'm still up on.
Speaker 3: Stage and I'm like, and I call it the guy
Speaker 3: who like heads it.
Speaker 8: And I asked him.
Speaker 3: In front of everyone, I'm like, did you realize that
Speaker 3: today was the day of Kobe Bryant the anniversary of
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant's stath or something like that. He's like, no,
Speaker 3: They're all drunk. And then everyone's like, what are you
Speaker 3: talking about. I'm like, do I have any reason to
Speaker 3: believe that me or anyone in my family is in
Speaker 3: any sort of dire situation?
Speaker 8: Or does anyone here wish to cause me harm? We
Speaker 8: will even tell you if we did. They're all laughing.
Speaker 8: And I said to him and I was like, of
Speaker 8: course you didn't. And I say to.
Speaker 3: Him in front of like like just filled with hubbers,
Speaker 3: Like I'm just filled with myself. I'm like, it's because
Speaker 3: because you, your organization, gentlemen, are the ultimate symbol in
Speaker 3: our society of initiation, and I just stepped through an
Speaker 3: initiation with life and you are my witness. And I
Speaker 3: give a big bow and I walk up and I'm
Speaker 3: like thinking all this great stuff about myself. The very
Speaker 3: next day, my entire life like everything fell out from underneath,
Speaker 3: like I got to move out of my house, like
Speaker 3: the relationship falls apart immediately, like everything goes like that.
Speaker 3: And I've and it started this three and a half
Speaker 3: Like I guess it's about three and a half years now,
Speaker 3: this journey of like who like living life in a
Speaker 3: way I had never lived before, where I had the
Speaker 3: opportunity to really feel what it's like to live at
Speaker 3: that that liminal space like between between, like is it
Speaker 3: all going to fall apart? Or is there something here
Speaker 3: which is going to support me? Like living like a
Speaker 3: like a life from a mythic lens versus like the
Speaker 3: very mundane.
Speaker 8: It's like you don't have You're just floating.
Speaker 2: Around, don't even know where you're going on the whole.
Speaker 3: Time, I was so beautifully supported, like like the stories.
Speaker 3: I mean you could see the background of this house,
Speaker 3: like I live like a millionaire and I was, and
Speaker 3: I have like one hundred bucks to my name. But
Speaker 3: I'm demonstrating something to myself. So let me circle this back.
Speaker 3: This is this period of time in my life, like
Speaker 3: that three year period I feel has come to its completion,
Speaker 3: like right now. That's why I said, like the timing
Speaker 3: of your invitation was so perfect because I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm ready to move out of what these three years
Speaker 3: has been. But in my mind, when I think of
Speaker 3: what was that threshold, what was I kicked out of?
Speaker 3: Because that's what happened to me. I was rejected. I
Speaker 3: was like kicked out of the system. It was at
Speaker 3: that event of presenting this information to this illustrious group
Speaker 3: of freemosonic gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Wow, a lot of them.
Speaker 9: I mean, I guess maybe it will kill you, but
Speaker 9: that's rebirth right.
Speaker 2: That is interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that was kind of initiatory. I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, I'm not knocking it. It just said,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe you don't you don't know this. Like
Speaker 4: I years ago, I was in the OTO and like
Speaker 4: I and other people put did lectures on certain topics.
Speaker 4: They probably do one once a month where they'd actually
Speaker 4: do a presentation of a computer and a PowerPoint and
Speaker 4: it's just funny, like I know what's actually going on,
Speaker 4: and like it's open.
Speaker 2: To the public for five to ten dollars. You can
Speaker 2: even come and see it.
Speaker 4: But it's just like hearing somebody else's thoughts of like
Speaker 4: what's really going on in there when it's just like.
Speaker 2: A bunch of nerds geeking out on one topic and
Speaker 2: you're like, what the fuck are they gonna kill me?
Speaker 4: I'm just like, those motherfuckers are afraid of their own shadow.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's just funny to hear somebody else's perspective.
Speaker 4: Who's like, it's just that had be died. But I
Speaker 4: can understand it. Definitely seems like you might have.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That is weird though all that happened, it does seem
Speaker 4: very almost initiatory, where you kind of lose everything and
Speaker 4: have to start all over again.
Speaker 8: That is interesting from from from the way I approached life.
Speaker 3: It was it was the most changible initiatory experience. It
Speaker 3: was like, what I said in front of the on
Speaker 3: that stage is one hundred percent authentic in terms of
Speaker 3: how I meet reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, this.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sense to you guys, but you guys aren't.
Speaker 3: Aren't who's looking back at me in the mirror at
Speaker 3: the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that is interesting though.
Speaker 4: That is wild that you must have been onto something
Speaker 4: though what they asked you to come there.
Speaker 8: Well, hopefully we'll see that today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, that is really interesting.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if you were even bringing up like certain
Speaker 4: history that they even acknowledge that most people don't even
Speaker 4: pick up on it. There wasn't even to bad mount them.
Speaker 4: It's just like this guy actually has his history though
Speaker 4: you never know. Uh well, I just find it interesting
Speaker 4: that they asked you you had to have had something
Speaker 4: of value with it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it certainly is like Ricardo said something which
Speaker 3: a little bit earlier, which which has been my like
Speaker 3: how I how I went through this entire process of
Speaker 3: like maybe whatever the information we're going to share is,
Speaker 3: and it's like I'm just.
Speaker 8: Looking for contradictions.
Speaker 3: I'm like any place I could find a contradiction, Like
Speaker 3: I'm going to go deeper. Where can I go where
Speaker 3: there's no contradiction, and then following that path like that's
Speaker 3: what we got, and being willing to not come to
Speaker 3: a conclusion, but just recognizing like truth which is in
Speaker 3: front of you, what which is like implied, and one
Speaker 3: which is like, well it's a mystery, but it's real.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, that's that's what we'll cover, or at
Speaker 3: least the angle which I'll approach it and present it by.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I just want to ask you
Speaker 4: real quick, weird question. You may not notice It'll remember
Speaker 4: when you were there, did anybody patch you or slap
Speaker 4: you anywhere, like really like light enough just to get
Speaker 4: your attention.
Speaker 8: I don't remember, maybe because.
Speaker 4: In initiations, this is something that I learned in the Oto,
Speaker 4: because after you do an initiation, they do a class.
Speaker 4: There's a time where like they slap, like there's a
Speaker 4: time where they take a sword in the actually slightly
Speaker 4: tap you in your waist. Afterwards, I're telling you we
Speaker 4: did that to accravate you, to activate your chakra. Right so,
Speaker 4: literally after that you take the initiation, they're telling you
Speaker 4: that we actually did certain things. It's like, wow, okay,
Speaker 4: so I'm just wondering if maybe that happened it was
Speaker 4: just a thought, it was just the.
Speaker 1: Well, there is that angle of this natural initiation, right.
Speaker 1: So in Elucinian mysteries and things like that, they have
Speaker 1: the idea that maybe you're being put into these situations
Speaker 1: by the gods as a test.
Speaker 10: You know, this is initiating you to the next level.
Speaker 1: And in life you see that same sort of thing
Speaker 1: happening again and again.
Speaker 10: It's life is trying.
Speaker 1: To activate that chakra, you know, it's trying to say, hey,
Speaker 1: look around, this is something something is happening you know,
Speaker 1: pay attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean by with the the gonzo
Speaker 3: research is for me at least, like if it's just
Speaker 3: like reading facts and learning like that seems to defeat
Speaker 3: the purpose of being alive in a body, Like we're
Speaker 3: meant to experience life, but maybe have we learn things
Speaker 3: to have a perspective of what it is we're experiencing,
Speaker 3: because I mean, I can only speak for myself. I've
Speaker 3: got no idea what this place is. I mean, I
Speaker 3: know they tell me it is, but I don't know that.
Speaker 3: It's just a ride, Yeah, a ride on what I hold.
Speaker 3: That is, Like, that's a question I can't answer. So
Speaker 3: if I can't answer that question, like anything which is
Speaker 3: based upon the assumption that I know that answer, like
Speaker 3: that falls apart. That would be a contradiction for me.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, what I do know is I'm alive
Speaker 3: and I do know that, like you know this, there's
Speaker 3: an experience.
Speaker 8: In my life. This is with a body, and it's
Speaker 8: solid beneath my feet.
Speaker 3: I can see the stuff upstairs, but I really don't
Speaker 3: know anything for certain, like other than that what I
Speaker 3: can track. So but that's been the internal compass, which
Speaker 3: like all of this stuff kind of came about, all.
Speaker 4: Right, So this present is the presentation that you did
Speaker 4: that kind of what you're going to be talking about
Speaker 4: here too, the same thing. Definitely, oh awesome, all right,
Speaker 4: So if you want to, I guess here's the first line,
Speaker 4: let me work.
Speaker 3: So I gave a little bit of the context of
Speaker 3: how I'd like to present this, which is like I come.
Speaker 3: I come with the perspective like the stuff that's a
Speaker 3: mystery I don't think I'm going to be able to solve,
Speaker 3: and I accept the mystery. So I'm looking at this
Speaker 3: for as real as it can be, for where I
Speaker 3: can't make it fall apart, and I recognize where it's
Speaker 3: coming from. And then that's this research began ten years ago.
Speaker 3: And so when I said that I'm coming back, I'm
Speaker 3: revisiting this research which I started so long ago, but
Speaker 3: coupled with everything which I personally learned experience concluded on
Speaker 3: this three and a half your journey. And it's not
Speaker 3: to say that this is truth. This is meant to
Speaker 3: say that these are the conclusions I've reached. So this
Speaker 3: is how I've come to it through actual experience, and
Speaker 3: it's an invitation like this either speaks to someone or
Speaker 3: it doesn't. They hear it's whisper or they don't. And
Speaker 3: so this is one part what I call the Susquehanna Codex,
Speaker 3: is one part of like a three pieces that go together.
Speaker 3: But I figured that that's the most tangible to work
Speaker 3: with the other two being natural astrology versus you know,
Speaker 3: it's more like astramony, is what I would call it.
Speaker 3: The other one has to do with like inner work
Speaker 3: sort of things. But the three of them going together,
Speaker 3: and the reason why the Susquehanna Codex is so interesting,
Speaker 3: and I'll just start it with this one kind of
Speaker 3: tidbit when we can go into it, is what we
Speaker 3: find on this, you know whatever.
Speaker 10: This is.
Speaker 3: What we are told by the system that indoctrinates us.
Speaker 3: This is the oldest river or if not the oldest
Speaker 3: river like you know, in that very very rare air,
Speaker 3: it's definitely the oldest river system on the planet. And
Speaker 3: it's where the information age, like the technological age that
Speaker 3: we are living in right now, that seemingly came out
Speaker 3: of the blue in nineteen forty five and so forth,
Speaker 3: like this is where myth and history and geology and
Speaker 3: all sorts of different things they meet right there. So
Speaker 3: one of the ways which they date rivers is by
Speaker 3: looking at a river's relationship with a mountain chain. If
Speaker 3: there's a relationship where rivers and mountains meet, if the
Speaker 3: river goes through the mountain chain like almost kind of perpendicular,
Speaker 3: it predates the mountains, and if it goes around it,
Speaker 3: it comes after the mountains.
Speaker 8: Because water takes the path of least resistance.
Speaker 3: So the Amazon does that with the Andes for example,
Speaker 3: like hits the Andes and like turns left. This river
Speaker 3: right here goes through the appalations, and so the appllations
Speaker 3: are generally thought of through all sorts of like mineral
Speaker 3: dating stuff, and like the squattiness of the appalations to
Speaker 3: be one, if not one of the oldest mountain chains
Speaker 3: that's on the Earth. And then this river goes through
Speaker 3: through that mountain chain. Okay, So like stuff like that
Speaker 3: and mineral content. My personal opinion is this, when I
Speaker 3: share this information, I'm using the information that the system
Speaker 3: gives me, Like I don't know that, but this is
Speaker 3: the information they give me. Sure, because at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, I don't even know if there was
Speaker 3: like one hundred years ago like I'm just like open
Speaker 3: enough to like I'm not. I'm only grounded on what
Speaker 3: they're telling me. But what I'm really grounded on is
Speaker 3: like I don't know, but I'll build on what they
Speaker 3: told me.
Speaker 6: Sure, of course you have to have a basis, and
Speaker 6: they are doing the work.
Speaker 8: Yes, they're the experts.
Speaker 3: That's so they tell me that, and they also tell
Speaker 3: me or actually I know this from experience.
Speaker 8: I know that in this realm, hierarchy matters.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is that which is
Speaker 3: oldest has influence on what comes after it. And we
Speaker 3: can see that from everything like your own lived experiences,
Speaker 3: like you know, your first seven years of your life
Speaker 3: set up your psychological frame for everything else. Or in
Speaker 3: traditional communities where the person who's lived the longest is
Speaker 3: most influential, the oldest tree has a a memory and
Speaker 3: an influence in that forested area that no other tree does.
Speaker 3: Like there's a there's a hierarchy truth, like, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of ways we can look at it. So that's
Speaker 3: kind of like where the the the oldest river is
Speaker 3: to me, this is all like in invitation, an invitation
Speaker 3: like can I listen?
Speaker 8: Can I?
Speaker 2: Can I?
Speaker 8: Can I listen a little bit closer, like what are
Speaker 8: you telling me? What are you telling me? And when
Speaker 8: you begin.
Speaker 3: To listen to this tale of this, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not saying it's a simulation.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just know that's a popular theory right about now.
Speaker 3: But I do know that I don't know what this is.
Speaker 3: So I like to say that this river represents whatever
Speaker 3: This may be the primary channel on mother border, Like
Speaker 3: that's what the oldest river is like on this planet,
Speaker 3: flowing water is a literal representation of life because this
Speaker 3: is a realm, you know, I won't even use the
Speaker 3: word planet, a realm where water is directly linked to life.
Speaker 3: So when you see it moving in literal form and
Speaker 3: we see the oldest there's like an implication that maybe.
Speaker 8: There's something there.
Speaker 3: And we begin this with a hypothesis, not a conclusion,
Speaker 3: not saying like that's a definite truth, but like, okay,
Speaker 3: like I can start to build on this, or at
Speaker 3: least that's what the approaches. So now let's go look
Speaker 3: at the oldest computer. Let's go down a couple slides.
Speaker 8: Can we nick?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was one right, So here we are, So
Speaker 11: this is where this is what we're told is the
Speaker 11: first Enioch, the first general first electric general purpose computer.
Speaker 3: And you could go up a slide. Oh no, the
Speaker 3: one where maybe go one more, one more? Where was
Speaker 3: the one where it was the pictures of the signs?
Speaker 8: Now the other way?
Speaker 2: Okay, then there we go.
Speaker 3: Yes, so one of the markers which i'll move through reality.
Speaker 3: So and i'll and I recognize a difference between paradigm
Speaker 3: reality and like what i'll call baseline reality. Myth linking
Speaker 3: story to land is very very significant in terms of
Speaker 3: collective conscious storytelling.
Speaker 8: So like when you.
Speaker 3: Start looking at these historical markers, they're like, this is
Speaker 3: this is the thing and the story even if it
Speaker 3: didn't happen, even if it doesn't happen, like there's a
Speaker 3: link in the in the earth, but when it does happen,
Speaker 3: it's it's even more true. And you can see on
Speaker 3: the on the right that that according to the official
Speaker 3: storytellers of whoever writes this stuff, they're like, this is
Speaker 3: the birth of the information age on the oldest river.
Speaker 8: And so now we're like, oh, that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Right by their standards, it could have been a room
Speaker 1: full of empty boxes. But as long as the people
Speaker 1: who are interested in computing are reaching back to that
Speaker 1: room full of empty boxes in their minds when they're
Speaker 1: thinking about how to expand the information age, how to
Speaker 1: work with computers.
Speaker 10: It still exists as that touch.
Speaker 8: Exactly I mean.
Speaker 3: And then it goes back to like we could just
Speaker 3: be we could be sleeping in the matrix tubes right now,
Speaker 3: having this conversation in some sort of matrix skew, like
Speaker 3: like there's a level like like this is such a
Speaker 3: weird place, and we have so many blind spots, like
Speaker 3: anything's fucking possible, and so like like we're kind of
Speaker 3: like the whole adage of like all of us in
Speaker 3: the dark room touching the elephant, and we're trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the hell it is, Like I mean,
Speaker 3: that's fair, that's fair to explain this experience.
Speaker 8: So but we can see that.
Speaker 3: We're working with something. They're giving us these freaking clues,
Speaker 3: whoever they is, right whatever this fun house is.
Speaker 8: So now let's go to this.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go and cut down to like the whole,
Speaker 3: to the end of this, and we could fill in.
Speaker 3: We could fill in the rest with like questions or
Speaker 3: like observations from Ricardo or Heidi, because that's where I
Speaker 3: think he gets alive. The story is when people start
Speaker 3: asking questions, can you nick go to the slide of
Speaker 3: the slide.
Speaker 8: Of the cross.
Speaker 2: One more?
Speaker 3: Yes, that one, So all of that consider, we're just
Speaker 3: like looking at data points. So what we can see
Speaker 3: right here is an alignment of four colleges that have
Speaker 3: been built probably I think what the earliest one was
Speaker 3: seventeen twenty three, the last one was eighteen ninety nine,
Speaker 3: so like one hundred and seventy years or something like that,
Speaker 3: like in time. And if you were to literally go
Speaker 3: like those lines that are drawn on this overlaid on
Speaker 3: this Google Earth map is precise.
Speaker 8: Like I've got videos where you can see it. You
Speaker 8: can do it yourself.
Speaker 3: But this is a precise alignment of these four colleges
Speaker 3: that have without even getting into the colleges that then
Speaker 3: are centered. That red circle in the middle is like
Speaker 3: this park and it's got this alchemical symbol and it
Speaker 3: ties into like John Smith and a map, and it's
Speaker 3: right over this the oldest river going parallel at the
Speaker 3: secret location, and it goes right over the exact spot
Speaker 3: where the first computer goes. And you begin to start
Speaker 3: to say like huh, well, okay, well what is.
Speaker 8: This, Like what does this mean anything?
Speaker 3: Is this a broken clock means it is accurate twice
Speaker 3: a day? Like this is like the whisper. This is
Speaker 3: the invitation. So there's a lot in between these two.
Speaker 3: But I want to begin with like these end points
Speaker 3: before I stopped like kind of talking to hear some
Speaker 3: initial thoughts or questions or observations.
Speaker 6: So I would say that the use of sacred geometry
Speaker 6: is not unusual, especially at that age that the people
Speaker 6: that were building this buildings were the ones that were
Speaker 6: preparing to destroy the world of the natural philosopher's and
Speaker 6: terns ormit finally into the world of materialists.
Speaker 7: But they were.
Speaker 6: Applying the symbology and hiding it from the public. So
Speaker 6: this is one of one thing that they only would knew.
Speaker 6: They would also participate in many institutions that protect practiced rituals,
Speaker 6: and they probably use that central place to practice those
Speaker 6: rituals because that place has some kind of significance to them,
Speaker 6: if not created by the construction themselves. That's how I
Speaker 6: would previously in a primary view, because I don't know
Speaker 6: what you're going to talk about. That how I would
Speaker 6: analyze what I'm seeing.
Speaker 5: I even I do want to verging area, charging the
Speaker 5: area with the energy.
Speaker 4: I even think that the river and I do find
Speaker 4: it interesting, like if that is a bend over there, Riccardo,
Speaker 4: haven't you even mentioned like seeing things built by bends
Speaker 4: of rivers?
Speaker 2: Ever, I find it interesting? I don't know.
Speaker 10: So, so the bounds go, go with the bends of rivers.
Speaker 8: Let's go to can we go to the map slide?
Speaker 3: So that would be towards the early the earlier part
Speaker 3: of the slide presentation, like the old fashioned looking map.
Speaker 8: Uh, keep going that one. So we'll go right there.
Speaker 3: So this is what they're telling us in history. So
Speaker 3: this is called the John Smith Map of Virginia. Do
Speaker 3: you know who John Smith is?
Speaker 7: Nope, but I don't know who it is.
Speaker 8: So have you ever seen the movie Pocahontas the movie?
Speaker 3: No, Yes, familiar that there's a story about Pocahontas. John
Speaker 3: Smith is the the hero if you will.
Speaker 8: In the Pocahonta story.
Speaker 3: And so in this history they tell us John Smith
Speaker 3: was the was the the leader of the Jamestown Colony.
Speaker 3: And the Jamestown Colony is where both the United States
Speaker 3: and the British Empire began, like if we want to
Speaker 3: go through their mythology and the history. And I say
Speaker 3: that because Jamestown was the first of the colonies that
Speaker 3: became the Thirteen Colonies.
Speaker 8: Which then became the United States.
Speaker 3: And then Jamestown is also the first permanent colony of
Speaker 3: the British Empire outside of the British Isles, and so
Speaker 3: Britain their historians recognize Jamestown as.
Speaker 8: The birth of the British Empire.
Speaker 3: So this map, and I'm just giving context right now,
Speaker 3: this isn't just some random map. This is a map
Speaker 3: which ties into that story. And so this is a
Speaker 3: map of our of our river, same river we're talking about.
Speaker 3: It's go down one more slide.
Speaker 8: Nick, please there so you could see where it's sideways.
Speaker 8: Now how it lines up.
Speaker 3: That's the Chesapeake Bay, which is the Susquehanna River. It's
Speaker 3: the same body of water. And so where I'm going
Speaker 3: with all of this is this map. When you go
Speaker 3: and you like pull a little bit of the threads
Speaker 3: of the history, this map connects directly to Francis Bacon,
Speaker 3: whatever whomever Francis Bacon is. But all roads from Manly
Speaker 3: p Hall esoteric studies say everything goes through Francis Bacon,
Speaker 3: including this map, because he sat on the board. He
Speaker 3: was an executive director of the company which was funding
Speaker 3: the Jamestown operation.
Speaker 8: So in this map there's a secret location. So let's
Speaker 8: go down. Let's slide this down a little bit. So well,
Speaker 8: let's stop right here. Actually we'll go back to this.
Speaker 3: This is just from some book of a guy who
Speaker 3: made the same realization I did, where he's suggesting that
Speaker 3: John Smith not necessarily his maps, but his writings are
Speaker 3: actually not his writings at all, but.
Speaker 8: He's just a front piece of Francis Baker. So so John.
Speaker 6: Smith really happens to people that's called John Smith because
Speaker 6: it's it's usually used to mean nobody.
Speaker 3: Exactly one hundred percent correct. Yes, yes, it's a name
Speaker 3: holder name. I think that's what Francis Bacon is too. Like,
Speaker 3: I mean, that seems to be the way which the
Speaker 3: story goes, just like Ben Franklin all BFFB and when
Speaker 3: you see like everything goes through this one individual, like
Speaker 3: that seems to be a modus.
Speaker 8: Operandi to me, but it still points to something.
Speaker 3: So let's go down one more Nick, if you don't
Speaker 3: mind when you look closely at the map, like it's
Speaker 3: a literal map, it's a map of like what we
Speaker 3: now think of his Pennsylvania, New York, Maryland, and Virginia.
Speaker 3: They have latitudinal markers going across and they're accurate. And
Speaker 3: when you look closely, you'll see that the forty is
Speaker 3: it just backwards, it's mirrored. The four is pointing in
Speaker 3: the opposite direction. And so now we got like it's
Speaker 3: kind of a smoking gun. When I first saw this,
Speaker 3: I like what. I was like, okay, well, how do
Speaker 3: they explain this a way? And there was just like
Speaker 3: no hits on Google. What I'm searching, like John Smith
Speaker 3: map reverse forty, What the fuck?
Speaker 8: Like nothing's coming up, but it's there.
Speaker 3: So Francis bacon Is also is also credited with the
Speaker 3: scientific method introducing that. So we're like, okay, this is
Speaker 3: my hypothesis. Let me create a hypothesis. And I tested
Speaker 3: and the hypothesis was, let's go down one more.
Speaker 8: Slide, Nick, if you don't yes that one right there.
Speaker 3: So also on the map, arguably the most the most
Speaker 3: visually dominant piece of the map is this character right here,
Speaker 3: which is a Susquehannock and the language underneath its feet
Speaker 3: or right by its foot, it says the Susquehannocks are
Speaker 3: just giant like people thus attired like just something that
Speaker 3: makes a whole bunch of sense right on a map,
Speaker 3: like the giant like, and they dressed like giants.
Speaker 8: They were attired right as.
Speaker 3: Giants, dressed with a free Masonic apron and wearing.
Speaker 8: A crown and a jewel, and like the posture.
Speaker 3: But what I'm suggesting here, though, is on this map
Speaker 3: both a people who are known as the Susquehannocks and
Speaker 3: then a river are named like This is when the
Speaker 3: name is introduced into the collective and in the context
Speaker 3: of hiding secret information in a public document. In my hypothesis,
Speaker 3: it is the hypothesis was, well, the fortieth parallel at
Speaker 3: the Susquehanna River, whereas this whereas this individual is a
Speaker 3: double entendre, a person representing the river, and it's right
Speaker 3: underneath that reverse forty. So it's like the cross section
Speaker 3: of the fortieth parallel the river. So now let's go Nick,
Speaker 3: if we could go to the slides, let's see the slide.
Speaker 8: It should say it'll have pictures. Let's go up.
Speaker 3: Well, we're not even touching the John D stuff yet,
Speaker 3: so we'll go back to the pictures.
Speaker 8: Keep going up yet. Yeah. So okay, so this is
Speaker 8: a close up right here of the upper.
Speaker 3: Cross and it's perfectly it's it's almost an absolute perfect
Speaker 3: t square. The circles if you were to zoom in,
Speaker 3: and I'll send you guys all copies if you're interested
Speaker 3: of this, of this power point, the small circles you'll
Speaker 3: see like on the Ryan McNally map, show you this
Speaker 3: is where the college campuses are and they're centered right
Speaker 3: at that yellow dot, which is the Susquehanna River at
Speaker 3: the fortieth parallel. And there's something there. It's called High
Speaker 3: Point Scenic Vista. So let's go down High Point Scenic Vista.
Speaker 8: I like to call it h. P. Blavotsky Scenic Pista.
Speaker 8: But that's and you'll.
Speaker 3: Understand a little bit later why because of the theosophical
Speaker 3: connection to this. But let's go down one more song. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it goes on forever, that's what I mean. Nick,
Speaker 3: It's like it's too much everything.
Speaker 8: Let's keep going, keep going. I'm looking for let's keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 8: this is it.
Speaker 3: So you can see right there, that's where it's high
Speaker 3: point scenic vista, and it just so happens that it's
Speaker 3: on a twenty three point five degree off angle from
Speaker 3: the exact north south of the fortieth parallel, so it's
Speaker 3: in total harmony with the tilt of the earth because
Speaker 3: that's twenty three point five degrees. These people know what
Speaker 3: they're doing. So let's go down one more. So this
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 8: So we're gonna look right here.
Speaker 3: This is a satellite image you can see on the
Speaker 3: right where it says the Susquehanna River. The arrow is
Speaker 3: from an eagle's eye view of where high point actually is.
Speaker 3: And that dot, that dotted line is forty degrees, zero
Speaker 3: minutes and zero seconds. There's about seventy miles between degrees.
Speaker 3: So in theory you could say fortieth parallel and have
Speaker 3: a very wide, a very wide brushstroke. But we're going
Speaker 3: to start with our with our razor thin pencil, and
Speaker 3: we're going to go right at forty degrees zero minutes,
Speaker 3: zero seconds, so we'll see that's where your high point is.
Speaker 3: That's what this whole cross is situated on, this perfectly
Speaker 3: aligned cross.
Speaker 8: So let's go down. Let's go down one more in
Speaker 8: the slide.
Speaker 3: This is high point and we'll go one more, and
Speaker 3: this is what it looks like when you get up there.
Speaker 8: This is it. You know, it's like no, uh, nothing too.
Speaker 3: Fancy, and it's a circle, and it's got three hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty degrees vistas overlooking the oldest river on Earth
Speaker 3: at Lake, a location that seemingly was important to the
Speaker 3: people who made that map.
Speaker 8: And then when we look at it.
Speaker 3: Let's go one more slide, Nick, this is what it
Speaker 3: looks like from like above. It's a crescent moon and
Speaker 3: it's a sun. And I know the guy who designed it,
Speaker 3: and he told me the story about how he designed it.
Speaker 3: It's possible that he lives a double life and he
Speaker 3: just told me like a story, or he's telling me
Speaker 3: the truth, which is what my intuition is, and he
Speaker 3: he ain't in no secret society. He did it for
Speaker 3: a totally different reason. I think I've got one more
Speaker 3: slide after that, and you could see this is the
Speaker 3: same symbol that shows up over and over again. And
Speaker 3: so now we're starting to like this, this.
Speaker 8: Cake is beginning to form.
Speaker 3: We don't know exactly what we're looking at, but when
Speaker 3: you begin to at least like this is just the
Speaker 3: first point when we begin to realize that we live
Speaker 3: in a technological aid. I'm looking around at I'm looking
Speaker 3: around at all of the faces here, and I think
Speaker 3: we can all remember what it was like when people
Speaker 3: didn't have computers.
Speaker 8: In their home. We could remember maybe even when there
Speaker 8: wasn't even cable TV. Like we know that life on
Speaker 8: Earth wasn't like this. And this is.
Speaker 3: Whatever technology is, without saying good or bad, just saying like,
Speaker 3: we can see it spreading, we can maybe have an
Speaker 3: idea of where it's going. When we begin to see this,
Speaker 3: much of intention is upon this river, which also overlaps.
Speaker 8: And this is just the beginning.
Speaker 3: This is just the tipius of the iceberg. It overlaps.
Speaker 3: The first computer that phonetically sounds a whole lot like
Speaker 3: the Nochian magic.
Speaker 8: We're beginning to be.
Speaker 3: Like, okay, well, what's coming into focus and what does
Speaker 3: this mean? And why would this matter to me in
Speaker 3: my day to day life?
Speaker 1: Michael, if I got real quick, So what from my experience,
Speaker 1: I do a lot of research in the Canaanite Phoenicians,
Speaker 1: and they have this motif called tan Eat, and Tanat
Speaker 1: is like this triangle goddess with this eye of providence,
Speaker 1: which is like a combination of the moon and the
Speaker 1: sun above her. And she's the goddess of the topic, right,
Speaker 1: So she's she's the one that you sacrifice the kids to.
Speaker 1: And it's always under the eye of providence, which is
Speaker 1: like this merging of the sun and the moon.
Speaker 8: And what's the name? Can you say the name again?
Speaker 10: The technique t A and I T tenant.
Speaker 4: Well, if you even think about, like the symbol fore
Speaker 4: it like you've covered. I mean, it's a flag which
Speaker 4: looks like that.
Speaker 8: For it's the and it sounds the phonetics.
Speaker 3: The annunciation is tenant technique.
Speaker 10: It's got a long dot over the eye.
Speaker 1: Exactly sure what that pronunciation is, but I assume it's
Speaker 1: tech neat because it's a longer symbol. But this is
Speaker 1: the Carthaginian goddess, right, So these were the people exploring
Speaker 1: the world way before anybody else got that idea. You know,
Speaker 1: these are the ones who invented are alphabet. That's why
Speaker 1: you're using the term phonetics over and over again.
Speaker 3: It's phoenicians exactly exactly what you WHOA. I almost fell
Speaker 3: off my chair. I'm so excited about that. So when
Speaker 3: it says the Susquehannocks are giant like people thus attired.
Speaker 3: It's making reference to tire, the cities through the Phoenicians.
Speaker 10: Yes, all of it.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you go and you look at, if
Speaker 3: you go and you look at like the stories which
Speaker 3: you put out by the newspapers, like there was there
Speaker 3: was there was a scholastic debate on a stone that
Speaker 3: was found on this river at this location with Phoenician
Speaker 3: carvings in like the nineteen fifties, Like this is like
Speaker 3: the era like some of the what's his name is it?
Speaker 3: Barry Kent, the guy who is the Harvard linguist who's
Speaker 3: written a lot about like the the Gaelic and Algonquin overlap.
Speaker 8: I think he wrote America BC.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of his work points to like these overlaps,
Speaker 3: which which like point to, you know, some sort of connection.
Speaker 3: However that is with with with Phoenicians. So when an
Speaker 3: expert like yourself drops in something like like what you
Speaker 3: just did, I appreciate that.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh I want to pull up a couple of examples
Speaker 1: real quick. Maybe you can say, I'm here.
Speaker 10: See thank you Providence.
Speaker 1: Right above her head, she's the kind of triangle figure
Speaker 1: for sure. That thing right in the middle right above
Speaker 1: it is that sun and moon together right.
Speaker 10: Well, here's a more recent example.
Speaker 1: We've got oh Gloria there with her kids, right one
Speaker 1: of them is a sacrifice sacrificial kid, and the other
Speaker 1: one is Anderson Cooper. And right behind her we see
Speaker 1: this figure of ten eat with that little eye of
Speaker 1: Providence sitting above her. And this is in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: That's Anderson Cooper's mom putting them. And if you see,
Speaker 1: she's got that burning man inside of a box right
Speaker 1: beneath her, just like the old Canaanite Phoenician practices at
Speaker 1: the top it of sacrificing babies. So there's this aspect
Speaker 1: of human sacrifice that goes along with this eye of Providence,
Speaker 1: the sun and the moon merging, and this is part
Speaker 1: of this ancient religion that goes into these first explorers
Speaker 1: that went everywhere. And we see all this Canaanite Phoenician
Speaker 1: stuff associated with the copper mines in Michigan, and we
Speaker 1: see it exactly.
Speaker 8: Will you go to slide number three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we end up on this sort of Phoenician
Speaker 1: cycle over and over again, and now we're at the
Speaker 1: end point where the Phoenicians decided, hey, you know, everything sucks,
Speaker 1: we might as well sacrifice at all.
Speaker 3: So so looking at this map, so we're looking on
Speaker 3: the one on the right, we're looking at the totality
Speaker 3: of a body of water which is called Susquehanna, which.
Speaker 8: The conclusion which which.
Speaker 3: I stand upon, not meaning that I wouldn't change it
Speaker 3: if something new would come along, but based upon where
Speaker 3: what I've been exposed to and experienced so far, it
Speaker 3: makes sense sense that the Susquehanna is the same as
Speaker 3: what they call the Sequana over in Europe. It's the
Speaker 3: same concept, it's the same like entity, if you will.
Speaker 3: This is part of the naming ritual. So the Susquehanna River,
Speaker 3: when you go it, its source location is in the
Speaker 3: upper right hand corner, and it spills out from a lake.
Speaker 3: So there's a big lake, and then the lake drains
Speaker 3: and that becomes a river, which at its widest point
Speaker 3: is like almost a mile and.
Speaker 8: A half wide.
Speaker 3: This location is maybe two blocks away from the Baseball
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, so it's Cooper'stown, New York. So this
Speaker 3: river begins in Cooper'stown, New York. And now we've got.
Speaker 8: Like tied in.
Speaker 3: So we've got the oldest computer, right, like you know,
Speaker 3: there's tied in woven into the history. Now we've got
Speaker 3: like baseball, and so Baseball's baseball is a really interesting thread.
Speaker 8: But the reason why I want to bring bring this.
Speaker 3: Up is because of your talk about sacrifice, because at
Speaker 3: the level which this is working on is like, you know,
Speaker 3: we're dealing with symbol, concept, archetype, and sacrifice is one
Speaker 3: of them. And so now we think of baseball, and baseball,
Speaker 3: maybe more so than any other of our eternal pastimes,
Speaker 3: is tied into sacrifice, just like a sacrifice out, like
Speaker 3: it's imbued in the exoteric telling of the game that
Speaker 3: sacrifice is part of this and it's a.
Speaker 8: Good part of the game.
Speaker 3: So when you go and you look a little bit
Speaker 3: deeper into like, well, why's the Baseball Hall of Fame there?
Speaker 3: It's based upon this ridiculous story which sports writers don't
Speaker 3: take seriously, and they call it the Abner Double Day myth.
Speaker 3: And the story is right, you're not in your head,
Speaker 3: so I think you know it. It's like this guy
Speaker 3: said that supposedly Abner Doubleday, who's well known in fact
Speaker 3: famous Civil War general who rose to his fame pretty
Speaker 3: close to the Susquehanna River in the fortieth parallel Gettysburg.
Speaker 3: He invented baseball right here in Cooperstown. And that's kind
Speaker 3: of the story. And that's like the outer telling of
Speaker 3: like the justification of the Baseball Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 3: you dig a little bit deeper with that, and you'll
Speaker 3: be like, well, hold on, at their double day. Isn't
Speaker 3: just like a baseball Hall of Fame or a famous
Speaker 3: Civil War general. But he was also the former president
Speaker 3: of the Theosophical Society. And then the guy who, like Puts,
Speaker 3: who said that this happened was Albert Spaulding, who was
Speaker 3: a major player in the Theosophical Society. And then you
Speaker 3: begin to realize, like, huh is this like kind of
Speaker 3: like how does this tie into the Theosophical Society? And
Speaker 3: then you go and you're like, well, that's one angle,
Speaker 3: But who actually built the Baseball Hall of Fame? And
Speaker 3: you go and you see it's the Clark family. The
Speaker 3: Clark family is uh, they were Gilded Age. They're a
Speaker 3: Gilded Age family that made their money through the Singer
Speaker 3: sewing machine and they got into also different stuff once
Speaker 3: they got once the money started coming in, and the
Speaker 3: great and the founder, maybe it was his son, got
Speaker 3: into real estate development. So real estate development, building buildings
Speaker 3: is in this family line. And so the grandfather is
Speaker 3: best known. And when I say the grandfather, this guy's alive.
Speaker 3: In the eighteen hundreds. He was best known as a
Speaker 3: real estate developer for building the Dakota in New York
Speaker 3: City or in Central Park, the same building where John
Speaker 3: Lennon was assassinated, same building where Rosemary's Baby was filmed,
Speaker 3: the same building where the Ghostbusters like are channeling the
Speaker 3: Babylonian gods, you know, and you're beginning to see this, like,
Speaker 3: what is the story that lineage, that lineage that builds
Speaker 3: on that level. Were the funders of the Baseball Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame on the mouth of the Oldest River, you know,
Speaker 3: tied in with the Esophical Society, And now we're beginning
Speaker 3: to like, what are we working with?
Speaker 8: What are we working with here?
Speaker 1: Mike, I don't know if you've ever researched the Society
Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: Definitely, I think I think.
Speaker 1: That is one of these keys that is just so
Speaker 1: ignored by all these conspiracy researchers.
Speaker 10: These are the guys These are the.
Speaker 1: Old world family bloodlines that have integrated themselves as the
Speaker 1: corporate uh infrastructure of America.
Speaker 10: These are the ones behind you know.
Speaker 1: All these major corporations. We know about all of these
Speaker 1: major issues, but are they even really Americans? Are they
Speaker 1: you know, European transplants, So maybe they have a different loyalty.
Speaker 10: And what we're seeing.
Speaker 1: Now is our history is just sort of the veneer
Speaker 1: of the real history of these different family bloodlines.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm when I'm so clueless.
Speaker 3: Like the more I look at different histories and families,
Speaker 3: the more my head's like ah, because there's so much
Speaker 3: like that's what why I always go back personally to
Speaker 3: like I don't know what this place is. What's the
Speaker 3: red herring, what's an indication of like quantum timeline, what's
Speaker 3: a hidden history? What's this what's just like an old
Speaker 3: program in this simulation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Families of Cincinnati, the Black nobility, the Phoenicians, the the like.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just assuming it's the saying it's the
Speaker 3: same whatever that entity is. You always see it behind
Speaker 3: the scenes of creating the environment of what I call
Speaker 3: the paradigm.
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's several agendas that conflicted with one another.
Speaker 6: It's important time and some prevail and some didn't. And
Speaker 6: what we have today is from those that gain victory. Obviously, right,
Speaker 6: they wrote the history, not us. They will the history.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, what was obviously? That's the that's the word
Speaker 3: which I always struggle with. It's like, well, I don't
Speaker 3: know why that's obvious, why it's obvious things so, but
Speaker 3: I was confused by how you used obvious, like you
Speaker 3: said it too fast, but I would to make certain
Speaker 3: I'm not missing something.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that whatever result we have today and
Speaker 6: setting it apart, if this is real or not, we
Speaker 6: are here assuming that it is. Then let's bypass the
Speaker 6: fact that it is or not because it doesn't matter
Speaker 6: because for us it can be real if we issues
Speaker 6: so so, and it's it's easy to go away too
Speaker 6: if you don't like it. There's many ways you decide
Speaker 6: to look to see if there is something on.
Speaker 7: The other side or not.
Speaker 6: But my point is what we have today was is
Speaker 6: created by those that prevailed, and there were not one
Speaker 6: or two just factions with agendas trying to implant their
Speaker 6: own ideas.
Speaker 7: There are many, but some.
Speaker 6: Merged, some were defeated, and what we have today, the
Speaker 6: history do have today, the reality do we have today
Speaker 6: was built by this families, by these groups, by this
Speaker 6: bloodlines that survived and managed to reach through our where
Speaker 6: we are today.
Speaker 8: That's that's obvious to me, right, Okay, I understand.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's how much like wrote the history. Yeah, what
Speaker 4: you're saying the winner always pretty much, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's your contradiction. And then they've got their
Speaker 1: contradictions and you're looking at these different contradictions and you're
Speaker 1: thinking they're not related when they actually really could.
Speaker 3: Be, you know, But I assume it's all related, or
Speaker 3: I take it all in and I place more evidence on, like,
Speaker 3: well what is real?
Speaker 8: Like that alignment's real?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 2: Alice? What was the next thing you had?
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, knowledge, opinions of this concept of
Speaker 3: river goddess worship.
Speaker 6: It's a pagan animistic type of culture, very old.
Speaker 7: Probably as old as the river itself.
Speaker 8: What is why would people do it?
Speaker 6: Because the river is a source of abundance, is the
Speaker 6: source of life, is the source of water, is the
Speaker 6: source of food, is the source of mydical events, is
Speaker 6: the source where even the Cryptids or the spirits come.
Speaker 6: It's a place where you go and deposit your elders
Speaker 6: because you know that the river is in constant movement
Speaker 6: and they will spread through the world. Or or why
Speaker 6: you build them, why you bury them beneath a tree,
Speaker 6: because you know his spirit will be imbowed in a
Speaker 6: tree and he will live forever. So the Egyptians did sarcophacus.
Speaker 6: In America, they choose trees. It's well, the basic is
Speaker 6: the same that just the building is different. It's the
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 7: Then the pyramids are also near the river.
Speaker 9: I thought that sorry up the river represent the divine feminine,
Speaker 9: like the birth waters.
Speaker 6: And sure, you know, like an initiation, you are brought
Speaker 6: into darkness, you are killed, you are reborn, and you
Speaker 6: emerge through the water into the light. Right, So it's
Speaker 6: always present as as a feminine element that keeps verse exactly.
Speaker 10: It's always a place of memory.
Speaker 1: So when you goddess worship, it's always it's.
Speaker 10: A place of memory.
Speaker 1: And when you're not physical navigation, a river is always
Speaker 1: a place where you remember where you're at. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the things that's it's a constant
Speaker 1: reminder of always being there, especially when you know, you
Speaker 1: live next to it, so it's it's always a place
Speaker 1: of memory.
Speaker 10: And the Greeks Menema say is the mother.
Speaker 1: Of the the muses, and the muses is you know,
Speaker 1: also this sort of river ideas, so this river of
Speaker 1: time and how things change in the weaving of time,
Speaker 1: it's all directly related to this ancient river goddess worship.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I found interesting when you were
Speaker 4: showing that map and he was showing that lady. One
Speaker 4: of the first things that popped into my head is
Speaker 4: that I've seen Robert Flood and I think Hiriy Coomrath
Speaker 4: and a couple of other alchemists. They it looks a
Speaker 4: lot of like reminds me of the star card and
Speaker 4: how you always have this woman's foot over by water
Speaker 4: and whatnot.
Speaker 2: This is the way it's drown just write.
Speaker 4: Reminded me of manuscripts I've seen before, just a woman
Speaker 4: in that position.
Speaker 2: Right near water and but other you know, occult things
Speaker 2: going on around her.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that that you called her that lady, because
Speaker 3: it's always it's primarily assumed when it's talked about in
Speaker 3: a historical context, that that's the man.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I've seen it in I've seen it
Speaker 2: in a female. For him, that's why it is.
Speaker 8: But I mean, in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Looks kind of androgynist.
Speaker 4: Me that picture dealing with I was like seeing if
Speaker 4: there was tits on it.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, what's going on with that.
Speaker 3: Greek with an androgeny or or a straight up like
Speaker 3: a woman dressed or encapsulated to look like a man.
Speaker 8: I mean, that certainly is a possibility, particularly.
Speaker 3: When you look at the history of like the ideas
Speaker 3: or the symbols which were put first put out into
Speaker 3: the collective mind in the colonial times. The first silver
Speaker 3: dollar was called the flowing hair dollar, and it was
Speaker 3: of Lady Liberty and her hair was down, it was flowing.
Speaker 3: It's very similar to the flowing hair in this image.
Speaker 3: And so when you begin to look at this as
Speaker 3: I mean, my personal opinion is that the reason why
Speaker 3: all the different cultures did the river goddess worship is
Speaker 3: because it was obvious, like they had a relationship and
Speaker 3: experience of life, where like that was the most obvious
Speaker 3: thing to do, Like they related to life different than us,
Speaker 3: Like I can't imagine what it would be, but I
Speaker 3: can conclude that it wasn't like a dogma as much
Speaker 3: as it was like self evident that this is our
Speaker 3: relationship with our environment and this is an accet like
Speaker 3: it's literally divine.
Speaker 8: It's literally divine, and there's a being with it real quick.
Speaker 4: Just I hate to go back to the same image,
Speaker 4: but whatever you just described as the same thing that
Speaker 4: was describing on the other image by Robert Flood, the
Speaker 4: chick has her head down purposely that I think used
Speaker 4: to show that she's not married and tamed and she's
Speaker 4: got stars around the head.
Speaker 2: Same fucking thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're starting to see this thing and.
Speaker 3: When you when you think about river goddess worship, So
Speaker 3: we're gonna maybe we'll transition a little bit to the
Speaker 3: John d stuff and the Enochian magic. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know if and I I don't kick around tires cars.
Speaker 8: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Play around with Maybe that metaphor got next mixed when
Speaker 3: I was playing it, but I don't play around with.
Speaker 8: With Nochian magic just because I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's like I know it's
Speaker 3: a thing, and I understand the logic behind it, and
Speaker 3: I understand that people practice it but when I'm going
Speaker 3: to be talking about it, it's from just like an
Speaker 3: academic pursuit as opposed to like literal like experiential.
Speaker 8: Gotcha, So I went to.
Speaker 3: Uh, I mean I questioned the whole Onok, the whole
Speaker 3: onnochan story in my in my opinion, has a lot
Speaker 3: of like potential holes you pop through, like John D's locker.
Speaker 8: But let's go down. Can we go down to the
Speaker 8: John D pages?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hopeful we get to those. I was
Speaker 4: going to bring up the other ones that we didn't
Speaker 4: see it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because there was some John D I think,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 3: Like right here, So this is just like from the
Speaker 3: John D Society whatever whomever they may be, but like
Speaker 3: how they want to position or their truth as it
Speaker 3: relates to John D.
Speaker 8: Like I John Dye is another one of these things
Speaker 8: which has me scratching my head.
Speaker 3: But he's when you look into the the Anochian magic.
Speaker 3: And let's keep on going down to the page with
Speaker 3: the highlighters. I think it's three slides down. This is
Speaker 3: from an.
Speaker 8: Essay no one more this one.
Speaker 3: So this is from from an essay called Anochian Apocalypse
Speaker 3: written by Donald Tyson. So However, you guys seem to
Speaker 3: be much more knowledgeable in this area of scholarship.
Speaker 8: Than I am.
Speaker 3: H This is his explanation of like Anochian magic. It's
Speaker 3: the there we go, yes, yes, same Donald Tyson. At
Speaker 3: the part of it, Anochian magic is controlling tutelatory spirits.
Speaker 3: You're calling in other entities so that they can control
Speaker 3: the tutelatory spirits. And so let me ask you this question,
Speaker 3: assuming like the first question is do you think tulatory spirits?
Speaker 8: Is that a real thing? Or is that not a
Speaker 8: real thing?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: What's your thoughts or opinions for me?
Speaker 1: Well, I think in a lot of the material you
Speaker 1: get from this, it's it's the conversion of elementalism into
Speaker 1: tutelary spirits.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: So each one.
Speaker 1: Of the squares that they operate on within the Towers
Speaker 1: of Naki magic is supposed to be a god or
Speaker 1: a goddess, well, an angel figure, right, And these angel
Speaker 1: figures come through as you're doing these rituals to give
Speaker 1: you these inspirations or visions or ways of seeing the
Speaker 1: world that are different from each and every one of
Speaker 1: the other angels.
Speaker 10: So you have to know specifically the answer.
Speaker 1: It's a very systematized, very computerized way of accessing different information.
Speaker 3: But do you think like if you go into a force,
Speaker 3: that there's like one primary conscious entity.
Speaker 8: Which is the And I'm not like I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: Like where people, where people meet it like experiential, Like
Speaker 3: this is not research to me. This is like, this
Speaker 3: is how I go through life, and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: understand the realm like a gonzo researcher.
Speaker 8: I take the approach that I take.
Speaker 3: The approach that this is a real like a real
Speaker 3: quality of what the realm is like baked into the
Speaker 3: cake in the same way.
Speaker 8: That rain makes grass grows.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of tweaked up because we can't see
Speaker 3: it or we experience it in a way which at
Speaker 3: some point was different. And that's why I say, like
Speaker 3: it was probably obvious back then, but right now, like
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm looking for. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to remember something which may or may not be tied
Speaker 3: into this. What Donald Tyson introduces right here as the
Speaker 3: Enochian Apocalypse, which has been more or less a.
Speaker 8: Uh so, this is Tyson's thought.
Speaker 3: In this article is that that John d opened up
Speaker 3: something that he didn't realize and more or less Earth
Speaker 3: has been under control ever since then, and it's kind
Speaker 3: of moving towards this, this Anochian Enioch technology.
Speaker 8: This is just one story.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is happening, but there's certain this
Speaker 3: is a narrative and there's certain touch points which we
Speaker 3: can really see between the oldest river and the first
Speaker 3: computer and the theosophy, having the the the the Baseball
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame like on the top of it, like
Speaker 3: like what are we working with?
Speaker 8: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: This repeats again and again.
Speaker 9: For me, As for only me, I believe much like Steiner,
Speaker 9: you know, there's realms and levels to this stuff, like
Speaker 9: you can't see it.
Speaker 5: But obviously with multiple.
Speaker 9: Religions seeing things or channeling things, or we've got even
Speaker 9: the Seance of the Nine right, We've got Howard Hughes
Speaker 9: afraid about blowing things up because it's opening holes.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's got to be something to this.
Speaker 9: It's happening through time again and again and again and again.
Speaker 5: So as for me, I believe it.
Speaker 3: So let me do a little pivot right now and
Speaker 3: then we'll come back to that.
Speaker 8: It is my opinion.
Speaker 3: That the purpose of going down these rabbit holes, and
Speaker 3: this is still just the beginning of the rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Is what I call primordial what I call primordial hardware.
Speaker 3: If we're holding this reality in place in our agreements
Speaker 3: and consciousness, most of our agreements are hidden, even hidden
Speaker 3: from ourselves, like we don't even realize we're what we
Speaker 3: have been agreeing upon. Like I mean, I teach a
Speaker 3: class called there's no such thing as Monday because like
Speaker 3: just to introduce the idea that Monday, like that's not
Speaker 3: a real thing, Like we're holding it is real, but
Speaker 3: it's not in It doesn't exist unless you're holding.
Speaker 8: It is real, like it would disappear.
Speaker 3: So much of our reality is being concocted from this
Speaker 3: starting point. And as we begin to like see this
Speaker 3: story as it is, and we can begin to like
Speaker 3: kind of deconstruct all of the the the narratives that
Speaker 3: have been built upon it and the other stories that
Speaker 3: have been built upon it, like we can go down
Speaker 3: to the original, Like we can go down to where
Speaker 3: there is no story, where the feet literally meet the ground,
Speaker 3: and we can begin to not to do anything other
Speaker 3: than to step outside of the dream that we're all
Speaker 3: be encapsulated in. Whether you want to call that the
Speaker 3: EMFs or the programming of the story and the technological
Speaker 3: predestined destination.
Speaker 1: I got a really interesting way of proving that from
Speaker 1: Donald Tyson's own book Please.
Speaker 10: When D and.
Speaker 1: Kelly request aid from the angels on personal matters, the
Speaker 1: angels either put them off with vague promises or tell
Speaker 1: them outright human concerns do not interest them. What does
Speaker 1: that tell you about these angels? What does that tell
Speaker 1: you about the system? What does it tell you what
Speaker 1: they're building?
Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean it, first off, I don't
Speaker 3: even know there's John D. But I do know that
Speaker 3: there was the story, and the guys who went searching
Speaker 3: in the British Museum found his books.
Speaker 8: So maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
Speaker 3: But I know that I'm starting from something I don't
Speaker 3: know from certain But that being said, what I do
Speaker 3: know is I can see how the things that began
Speaker 3: upon this river have spread, and I can say that
Speaker 3: the histories that they tell us all go through the
Speaker 3: same channels. They all follow the same path through through
Speaker 3: John D to Francis Bacon, through the Rosicrucion, and then
Speaker 3: like you know, I can poke holes, holes and holes
Speaker 3: and then I'm still left scratch my head saying, well,
Speaker 3: how did then these these four colleges get that are
Speaker 3: in the Red Rose and the White Rose City get
Speaker 3: lined up in the perfect invisible college Rosa Cross and
Speaker 3: cruise Rose to crusion cross.
Speaker 8: From the Oldest River going over the first computer.
Speaker 3: And then I take a deep breath and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I need to get my consciousness first grounded out side
Speaker 3: of that story.
Speaker 8: So because it's so invasive.
Speaker 1: Right, look, what if what if that cross that you're
Speaker 1: showing on that map right there? What if that's actually
Speaker 1: this uh you know, I guess it would be an
Speaker 1: Achian computer because the Enochian tablets are set up in
Speaker 1: that same cross design.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised, like it makes sense. You're not,
Speaker 3: but it makes sense, like that's part of the invitation.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, well what if? And like to Ricardo's
Speaker 3: position is like, well, whatever you choose to hold your
Speaker 3: truth to be, you're going to find it to be.
Speaker 3: So because that's part of how.
Speaker 8: This realm works.
Speaker 3: So if we know those those things like how how
Speaker 3: do we meet the Oldest River, how do we get
Speaker 3: grounded outside of the technosphere, how do we remain or
Speaker 3: maybe become human beings in the technological age. I think
Speaker 3: what is unwidening this story because it grounds us back
Speaker 3: in myth to the earth in a way which is
Speaker 3: both literal and unexplainable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because this is a repetition of the old megalitic
Speaker 6: culture that precisely used that animism, that natural force to
Speaker 6: create these monuments that were profoundly technological.
Speaker 7: I can send you my book to Resonant Earth.
Speaker 6: So they are profoundly technological, creating conditions for us to
Speaker 6: speak to ancestors, for us to visit distant places, for
Speaker 6: us to have consciousness experience, for us to have rituals,
Speaker 6: for us to have communion with tribes that are far away,
Speaker 6: and all of this was done by the river in
Speaker 6: these megalodic structures. And I could not help to watch
Speaker 6: when you presented your photographs that they are slabs of
Speaker 6: granite what it seems to be granite on that circle,
Speaker 6: that are not symmetrical, And if they are not symmetrical,
Speaker 6: they are intentional, And if they are intentional, they are
Speaker 6: part of the design whatever the fellow told you that
Speaker 6: he created that for. Because all of these people do
Speaker 6: is to create with symbolism ever and ever again. And
Speaker 6: that cross that you find there, it's a cross that
Speaker 6: was already there. They just reused it because I'm sure
Speaker 6: if I go and look into my map that I
Speaker 6: will find a note point in that area for sure.
Speaker 3: So okay, so I tend to like that makes sense
Speaker 3: to me, Like that's something I could like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: this is something I'd want to go test, like, particularly
Speaker 3: as it relates to were these places built there because
Speaker 3: they're already known. I mean, that's exactly there's my creation
Speaker 3: secret location put in the map. It was for people
Speaker 3: with eyes to see, and so it's marking something. Those
Speaker 3: those granite stones weren't originally put there because I was
Speaker 3: there when they used to be in a configuration, and
Speaker 3: they've been moved by the landscapers and maybe they were
Speaker 3: told to move them.
Speaker 8: But regardless of what, regardless.
Speaker 3: Of like how things got here, they're here and they're witnessed.
Speaker 3: They're being witnessed right now, and at least the story
Speaker 3: warms my heart because that's part of this that to
Speaker 3: me is is the is the funness of this question
Speaker 3: and the value of what might be called field research
Speaker 3: or just like experience of being alive.
Speaker 8: Like, the only way I.
Speaker 3: Know that's true is like I go there and I
Speaker 3: think that it's been whomever that they are has wanted
Speaker 3: this to be revealed.
Speaker 8: Otherwise it wouldn't be revealed in such a way. I think.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this stuff goes to the
Speaker 1: idea of memory palaces. You know, all of this stuff
Speaker 1: exists inside of our minds as these maps as we
Speaker 1: move around the landscape, and so these ideas find a
Speaker 1: way of getting in.
Speaker 10: Whether people want.
Speaker 1: To really, you know, see it for themselves or not,
Speaker 1: there's still gonna be an influence.
Speaker 8: True.
Speaker 6: That's that's the reason why we can have this conversation
Speaker 6: and these discussions because all of us have our own
Speaker 6: mind palace. Otherwise we are just agreeing with each other.
Speaker 6: And that's it. Don't even need to speak it's it's
Speaker 6: it's a conjunction of all of this understanding that reveals
Speaker 6: the higher truth. And you brought a higher truth to
Speaker 6: us today and we are in annoysing it according to
Speaker 6: what you are presenting.
Speaker 8: That makes sense. Oh, this is why I wanted to share.
Speaker 8: I wanted to share that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think it's Francis Bacon who wrote it is the
Speaker 3: it's the uh, it's it's God's pleasure to hide the
Speaker 3: treasure and it's the King's joy to discover it or
Speaker 3: something along that line. Can this point of the joy
Speaker 3: of like the self awareness part that's baked into the
Speaker 3: cake of this mystery that we find ourselves with the
Speaker 3: capabilities of having some degree of self awareness. So, I
Speaker 3: mean that's always my point of reference. It's not like
Speaker 3: it's it's it's like, so the oldest river isn't just
Speaker 3: the oldest river in my mind.
Speaker 8: Like I didn't make that up.
Speaker 3: I didn't make up the first computer, and I didn't
Speaker 3: make up like everything that's happening right now in the world,
Speaker 3: and I didn't make up like, you know, the backdrop
Speaker 3: of our of our history. But we can see like
Speaker 3: all of this stuff kind of points to the same
Speaker 3: location or the same body of water, and like, yes,
Speaker 3: all of the intellectual stuff, but at the end of
Speaker 3: the day is like you're in your meat suit and
Speaker 3: you're still here, and you're gonna get out of the
Speaker 3: bed for some reason, Like.
Speaker 8: What do we do?
Speaker 5: I know what John D?
Speaker 2: What would John D do?
Speaker 5: I just want to know about all these slides?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, do we still have more of those.
Speaker 8: But John D, which one were you curious about? Heidi, Oh,
Speaker 8: I just.
Speaker 5: Wanted to know. We started in on this then we
Speaker 5: kind of went left field, so I was just curious.
Speaker 2: I just forgot Actually, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it all kind of culminates in this d
Speaker 1: Wave computer, which.
Speaker 2: Is right earlier in the chat. So we said d Wave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a slide which shows the dates of the
Speaker 3: introduction into the collective mind of of of the You know,
Speaker 3: d Wave is known as the first quantum computing company.
Speaker 3: But again, like what you said, I think about this
Speaker 3: with the quantum computers, they could just be boxes, empty
Speaker 3: boxes in a warehouse that we're aiding them ourselves in
Speaker 3: our minds. Like that's part of like the the mystery
Speaker 3: of like what's actually happening.
Speaker 2: John D. That's funny even catch out to d and
Speaker 2: d Wave.
Speaker 10: John D.
Speaker 3: Rockefeller is behind a lot, is involved in a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff as well.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else, uh what about is there anything
Speaker 2: on the Mormons that Uh.
Speaker 3: So again, when we're looking at this and we're we're
Speaker 3: open with like what would what's the nature of flowing water,
Speaker 3: What's what's the nature of like hierarchy of age. You know,
Speaker 3: these are rhetorical questions, like as it was said before,
Speaker 3: like we can't answer them. We could ask them and
Speaker 3: kind of like loosen our tight hold and for what's
Speaker 3: the purpose? While I'm alive and it's supposed to be fun,
Speaker 3: but there's seemingly something else at play? And so rather
Speaker 3: than denying that, how do you meet that? Like that's
Speaker 3: built into this cake as well, like how does this
Speaker 3: make sense?
Speaker 8: How does this align?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 8: What was the what side were you pulling up.
Speaker 2: Just going through it?
Speaker 4: If there was any that maybe we didn't talk on that,
Speaker 4: we could just make sure I didn't want to leave
Speaker 4: him out.
Speaker 3: Oh the Mormonism that's last so also tied into this story.
Speaker 3: And this is where, at least for me, it got
Speaker 3: very very interesting.
Speaker 8: Is in Mormon.
Speaker 3: History, they'll tell you that their founder was baptized by
Speaker 3: John the Baptist in the Susquehannah River, and he was
Speaker 3: given the authority to re establish in the Susquehannah River.
Speaker 3: He was given the authority to re establish the the
Speaker 3: Arionic priesthood I believe it's called.
Speaker 8: And that's where it began. Like that was like the
Speaker 8: stepping stone.
Speaker 3: And then uh, and then Joseph Smith had two stones
Speaker 3: which he then used to see her stones that allowed
Speaker 3: him to uh decode the Golden Disc, which became the
Speaker 3: Book of Mormon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did I go? Ahead? You actually?
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, I mean he channeled, you know, he used him. Definitely,
Speaker 9: he was channeling to decode by putting his head in
Speaker 9: the hat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, he definitely used the seer stones for sure.
Speaker 3: Well they say he had the I never pronounced it
Speaker 3: the white Stone and the Blackstone of the High Priests.
Speaker 3: But yes, right, a white stone and a black stone.
Speaker 3: And like, I don't know if any of that's.
Speaker 8: The the these.
Speaker 3: Stories are true, Like, I don't know if he saw
Speaker 3: what I do know. I'm sorry, I was gonna ask
Speaker 3: you about the mineral content of these different places along
Speaker 3: the Susquehana. Well that's what we're gonna go and and
Speaker 3: maybe lean on a little bit.
Speaker 8: But uh, where was I going to go with? Oh?
Speaker 8: The so the Book of Mormon, like feel.
Speaker 3: Whatever, you you know, meet the Book of Mormon anyway
Speaker 3: an individual wants to meet them. But what's what we
Speaker 3: can say for certain is when they quantify, like the
Speaker 3: number how many times books have been books have been
Speaker 3: printed like these are the ten books most printed in
Speaker 3: the history of the printing press, And so usually is
Speaker 3: what Chairman Mao's book in China, and they made the
Speaker 3: billions of copies or whatever the number would be, maybe
Speaker 3: the Bible's number two, but the Book of Mormon is
Speaker 3: like top five.
Speaker 8: And so if we think about that in.
Speaker 3: Terms of print on consciousness, I don't I'm saying nothing
Speaker 3: about the content. I'm just saying, like, you know, if
Speaker 3: you do it enough, like it's going to have an effect,
Speaker 3: like like that's a real deal influence, Like it is affected,
Speaker 3: and it's quantified at least through the Gutenheim scale.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So he was said to have a white stone and
Speaker 3: a blackstone. And if you look at the geology or
Speaker 3: the geology of in that region, and particularly if you
Speaker 3: look for things that are unique, things that are not
Speaker 3: found elsewhere, the first thing what you're gonna find is
Speaker 3: anthracite coal. So anthracite coal sounds so unsexy, right, You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's coal, coal sucks it, like that's fossil fuels and dirty.
Speaker 3: But if you had a different context, you'd be like,
Speaker 3: this is rock that lights on fire. None of the
Speaker 3: other rocks light on fire, and why is this rock
Speaker 3: light and on fire? Like this is an important rock?
Speaker 3: And then anthracite. How it's separate from the other coal
Speaker 3: or the other rocks that light on fire is that
Speaker 3: it's it's more pure, they're less impurities, it has a
Speaker 3: higher carbon percentage. And so the expression of it is
Speaker 3: it's a rock that lights on fire that has no smoke.
Speaker 3: So now like without like a point of reference, without
Speaker 3: like our current culture point of reference of coal, like
Speaker 3: at least that's that's showing itself as interesting anthracite to
Speaker 3: begin as unique amongst this realm which refining ourselves in
Speaker 3: and then anthracite I think I read this once like
Speaker 3: this number, but even without the number, it's true. The
Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of known anthracite deposits on Earth is found
Speaker 3: in one place. It's basically right underneath where Joseph Smith
Speaker 3: did his his his channeling in the Susquehanna.
Speaker 8: And like what I think that was like eighteen forties
Speaker 8: is when that happened.
Speaker 3: So we've got this very rare rock which is only
Speaker 3: found in one place, which is culturally touched. The biggest
Speaker 3: anthracite mind is called the Lackawana Mine. And since Grant
Speaker 3: and Pennsylvania. So like the Office, and it's what the
Speaker 3: people and the Men in the High you've seen or
Speaker 3: read the book by Philip K. Dick or the Short Story,
Speaker 3: or saw the TV show The Man in the High Castle.
Speaker 3: They say, like the Nazis went into the Lackawana mine
Speaker 3: in order to access the different dimensions to timeline jumping. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what happens. I went into
Speaker 3: the lack of wan of mine because I want to
Speaker 3: find out for myself. My sense is something else is
Speaker 3: going on. But like, like these are the cultural touch points.
Speaker 3: So we've got the anthracite, which is the precursor of graphite.
Speaker 3: All this is what the geologists say, at least, like
Speaker 3: the graphite came from anthracite, which has me scratching my
Speaker 3: head because I'm like, you're telling me get anthracites in
Speaker 3: one place in the world, but graphites everywhere, But I
Speaker 3: came from anthracite.
Speaker 8: I don't have an answer to that.
Speaker 3: But this is what they say and what we're working
Speaker 3: with and where I'm going with this is graphite cut
Speaker 3: one molecule thick becomes graphene oxide and it becomes the
Speaker 3: super conductor hardware of like the next generation of where
Speaker 3: all this is going, and so we can begin to
Speaker 3: see it's got to come from somewhere, right, But we
Speaker 3: can begin to see these ties of actual unfoldment of life,
Speaker 3: and we can begin to see, like this story around it,
Speaker 3: we can begin to look at at what's actually happening
Speaker 3: with the computers and the technologies, what it's doing the
Speaker 3: people's heads, and like you know, oh, I don't have
Speaker 3: to write anymore because chat Shept writes for me, like
Speaker 3: there is a direction we are going. I don't know
Speaker 3: where it's going to end up, but we can see
Speaker 3: right now where it's connected and we can meet that.
Speaker 1: One of the interesting things about the mineral deposits is
Speaker 1: you've also got the Herkimer diamond, so.
Speaker 8: You can go now he got a white and blackstone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with those stones circular.
Speaker 4: They like do they I was talking about like in
Speaker 4: Joseph Smith's story, it was actually really interested in circular.
Speaker 9: Like upwards of six. But the favorite one was brown
Speaker 9: and it was kind of circular. The white one it
Speaker 9: looks sort of jagged, but nobody's ever seen it because
Speaker 9: they just do an artist or rendition, so hard to
Speaker 9: know there was like a green one. There was there
Speaker 9: was all kinds. He was messing around with all kinds
Speaker 9: of things.
Speaker 8: But it's just convolution.
Speaker 3: Did story because the current Book of Mormon is not
Speaker 3: the Book of Mormon.
Speaker 9: He tries, Yeah, you have to go back to the
Speaker 9: FLDS versions real quick.
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask the Sardians Row, I'll just keep forgetting.
Speaker 4: Was Aberdeen the guy associated with baseball?
Speaker 8: Did you mentioned before double Day?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, sorry bad.
Speaker 3: Aberdeen is where the first computer is located at Aberdeen
Speaker 3: Proving Grounds, ran reason, Aberdeen, Scotland. And if you know,
Speaker 3: you're Aberdeen, scott and there are two rivers there and
Speaker 3: one is d the River d and the other is
Speaker 3: the River Don.
Speaker 8: So like John d is like.
Speaker 3: When you begin to see how this is, how this
Speaker 3: is infused into a dream which is being I'll leave
Speaker 3: it at that.
Speaker 1: I think there is this this linkage between all these rivers, right,
Speaker 1: so you've got the River and France and this is
Speaker 1: this river goddess that you know it was called Send.
Speaker 1: And then I think it goes into the fact that
Speaker 1: the Mormonism was the revival of the Aryan priesthood. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got all of these different Europeans.
Speaker 9: It's the ironic priesthood, the priesthood of Aaron, Yeah.
Speaker 8: The brother of Moses.
Speaker 9: Yes.
Speaker 10: Well, there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of people today that trace a lot of magical
Speaker 1: history from Europe, sort of the Druidic tradition into what
Speaker 1: was his family was about, and so sort of like
Speaker 1: an evolution off of these prior forms of magic that
Speaker 1: then translated really well with the folk magic tradition and
Speaker 1: a lot of the apocalyptic visions that were.
Speaker 10: Going on at the time.
Speaker 1: So having having kind of like a root in this
Speaker 1: European tradition of folk magic, and not just that, but
Speaker 1: you know, this high magic that's coming through in other ways, uh.
Speaker 10: Right of things.
Speaker 1: So to me, it seems like there was kind of
Speaker 1: a revival of the sort of folk magic tradition going
Speaker 1: on in that region, maybe being spearheaded by the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, Joseph Smith was a Society descendant, making him
Speaker 1: a Society a Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: Member on some levels. So and he.
Speaker 1: Struggled against the federal government. So it does look like
Speaker 1: a power struggle within these these families. So they had
Speaker 1: there was like the largest militia ever to ride out
Speaker 1: against the government when they settled in Utah, so there
Speaker 1: is a rebellious aspect to it as well.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 3: I've got about fifteen minutes left in me. So if
Speaker 3: there's any like direction, any direction which you would like
Speaker 3: to go with this, I'm happy to take it there.
Speaker 1: Well, this mouth of the Chesapeake Bay, this is where
Speaker 1: a lot of the first slave trade took place.
Speaker 10: Isn't this the sixteen nineteen location.
Speaker 3: That I don't know specifically, but I know that that
Speaker 3: would make that might make sense.
Speaker 8: What I know for certain is it's tied.
Speaker 3: It's more tied into when people talk about that history
Speaker 3: of the underground railroad like that is part of the
Speaker 3: that's part of the history of going up the Susquehanna
Speaker 3: and then arriving at this actually at the towns that
Speaker 3: were located at the fortieth parallel in the Susquehanna River,
Speaker 3: and then that would be the you know, the escape
Speaker 3: route if you will. Interesting about where that trade transition
Speaker 3: from river to bay occurs. That town is called Haverdy Grace, Maryland,
Speaker 3: and it's named after Lejavre France. Lajavre, France is the
Speaker 3: port town where the sin which used to be called
Speaker 3: the Sequana empties out into the channel.
Speaker 8: So when we talked about this repeating sort of.
Speaker 3: Like there's a there's a modus operandi, there's an echo,
Speaker 3: there's a repeat. What exactly it is, like I think,
Speaker 3: is I don't know what it is, but it's occurring.
Speaker 3: We can measure it, we can see it, we can
Speaker 3: we can follow it. Like that is to me a
Speaker 3: key marker in the naming of that land water space
Speaker 3: of the correlations.
Speaker 7: I don't doubt you.
Speaker 8: I don't doubt you.
Speaker 4: Else have any questions or anything that you want to ask?
Speaker 4: Ellis a heidec Well.
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of work on the
Speaker 1: highways up at Harvard and Grace, and so there's so
Speaker 1: many different little historical monuments all up and down that
Speaker 1: section of the road right there. Man, when the accidents
Speaker 1: happen on that bridge, because you know it crosses right
Speaker 1: there after the dam and then it flows out into
Speaker 1: the chest Peake, it's just a really interesting area.
Speaker 10: It's just so coded with history.
Speaker 3: Coded with history, and filled with top secret hidden government sites,
Speaker 3: particularly in that area.
Speaker 8: By that bridge on the ground you mean m.
Speaker 3: H that eve from from Camp David Maryland, Greenbrier, West Virginia,
Speaker 3: Army War College, Gettysburg, Like if you begin to look
Speaker 3: at that as.
Speaker 8: Complex points like it's it's yeah.
Speaker 3: About whether site are yes, yes, exactly where that's right
Speaker 3: in the middle of all of it.
Speaker 10: Uh, yep. Well, I don't know if Indian Town gap is.
Speaker 1: I used to drill out there and uh, I didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of secrecy going on. But definitely in
Speaker 1: the periphery. They've got a lot of equipment that is
Speaker 1: just off the charts there and it's just supposed to
Speaker 1: be a National Guard base.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's supposed to be that, isn't it.
Speaker 3: So I mean maybe this if if there weren't any questions,
Speaker 3: I'll maybe begin to wrap this up.
Speaker 8: For what.
Speaker 3: I would hope if there's someone paying attention, like, what
Speaker 3: would would be able to take from this is it
Speaker 3: is my opinion through experience and of interest and just
Speaker 3: being you know, curious of what.
Speaker 8: This is that you know we're there's a timing going
Speaker 8: on right about now.
Speaker 3: I mean you could say that at any given time, yes,
Speaker 3: but we can see the build up if we're we're
Speaker 3: old enough, we can see, particularly as it relates to technology,
Speaker 3: that there we're moving somewhere quicker faster.
Speaker 11: And.
Speaker 3: Though we're in the middle of it. Though we're in
Speaker 3: the middle of it, we can recognize that we can't
Speaker 3: see it because we can have the clarity to know
Speaker 3: that we have.
Speaker 8: A blind spot.
Speaker 3: And when you begin to look at how we got here,
Speaker 3: we can come to a literal place, not a conceptual place,
Speaker 3: but a literal place where you can go in your
Speaker 3: body earth suit, in this mystery and you can begin
Speaker 3: to meet it in a way which is different than
Speaker 3: how the system is shaping you. Right this whole thing,
Speaker 3: like they tell you it comes from behavior scientists of
Speaker 3: the military industrial complex, there might be a bigger story.
Speaker 3: Maybe the military industrial complex really has your best interest.
Speaker 3: It is my opinion that the best interest is that
Speaker 3: we can see what's becoming or going on so we
Speaker 3: can return back or remember to what it means to
Speaker 3: be human and what that means has to do with
Speaker 3: creativity and the way we hold ourselves. Nothing built upon
Speaker 3: what we know. So all that being said, when you
Speaker 3: begin to hear these stories of the Susquehanna, and it,
Speaker 3: if it vibrates, if it if it echoes in your ear,
Speaker 3: if it feels like an invitation not to get an answer,
Speaker 3: but to have an experience like that would be my
Speaker 3: desire that this would be a threshold for people to
Speaker 3: begin to walk through.
Speaker 10: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Michael.
Speaker 1: I think you've left a lot of people a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to think about, because seeing the world as
Speaker 1: it is is not seeing the world for what it is,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: Yeahs as Eaton would say if he was here, awareness
Speaker 6: of awareness.
Speaker 7: Not everybody has it?
Speaker 4: Yeah see, oh yeah, I like that awayness awareness One
Speaker 4: thing I do find interesting. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 4: if this is something you're going to keep going on about,
Speaker 4: but I would like look to see if there's other
Speaker 4: structures and mounds around there too.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I think there's something up with that area, and there's
Speaker 4: probably more things still to be found that might actually
Speaker 4: I don't maybe helpul to whatever you're trying to do,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest story is so right in that
Speaker 3: same spot, probably maybe six miles away upstream on the
Speaker 3: river is where three Miles Island is, right. I'm not
Speaker 3: suggesting that the story put out of what occurred in
Speaker 3: Free three Mile Island is accurate, but what I do
Speaker 3: know is that's a charge play location because of the
Speaker 3: history of Three Mile Island and maybe something else happened.
Speaker 3: Three Mile Island was just recently acquired by Microsoft to
Speaker 3: make to make one hundred percent of the electricity created
Speaker 3: by that power plant is to go and power Microsoft.
Speaker 8: AI data centers next generation.
Speaker 3: Two miles down from there, you're going to find Marietta, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: and Glaxo. This is the middle of nowhere. Like keep
Speaker 3: in mind, like these aren't population centers, Like this is
Speaker 3: ninety minutes from Philly, this is ninety minutes from Baltimore.
Speaker 3: It's not like nowhere nowhere, but it's not like, you know,
Speaker 3: like an epicenter. But we have these things which are
Speaker 3: happy right here, which are indications of a direction, or
Speaker 3: at least one of the directions. And the other one
Speaker 3: is that glaxosmith Klein just put in like some absorbent
Speaker 3: number to make the vaccine manufacturing plant. They're cutting edge
Speaker 3: research vaccine based upon all the.
Speaker 8: mRNA blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make is that level
Speaker 3: of technology paradigm control is doubling down back to where
Speaker 3: it began in the same in that location. Like meet
Speaker 3: that story any way you want. But all of the
Speaker 3: data points are factual, there's no misinterpretation. They're really doing
Speaker 3: it there, It's really happening.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: This is really the.
Speaker 3: Oldest river, older, oldest, like I'll say, there's a little
Speaker 3: wiggle room with that, but it's definitely where the computer
Speaker 3: industry began. And so when we see that and we
Speaker 3: don't know what to do.
Speaker 8: We go back.
Speaker 3: We can go back and touch it and experience it.
Speaker 3: Maybe just in terms of story, but if you're lucky enough,
Speaker 3: you can do it in flesh and bone.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 1: I think the idea of story and memory are so
Speaker 1: linked together, and these rivers all have these deep memories.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, once we.
Speaker 1: Could access them, we kind of understand the place we're
Speaker 1: at better. And as I was, I didn't get to
Speaker 1: say it earlier, but land is the lens by which
Speaker 1: we view God, and by that I mean what you're
Speaker 1: doing on the land, how you relate to this sort
Speaker 1: of life support system around us, is how you're going
Speaker 1: to end up telling your story.
Speaker 10: It's just that's that's how every moment works.
Speaker 1: Your half of every moment, and the world is half
Speaker 1: of every moment.
Speaker 3: Right, It's a feedback loop, right, That's the that's the
Speaker 3: self perfect you know that's.
Speaker 4: How we Yeah, all right, before we go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna everybody plug their shows and I okay, okay, fine, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: but if you want to ask another question, go for it.
Speaker 6: No, I was just because he might have never seen it.
Speaker 6: I was just going to put the Google R so
Speaker 6: you can see what he can find there for his
Speaker 6: own research, because I cannot share it unless it is
Speaker 6: on the screen.
Speaker 10: Which one is it does?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: It has Okay, I do it here. I was asking
Speaker 6: on the on the chat, but Nick didn't.
Speaker 2: So oh oh wait wait all right, yeah, yes, yes
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 7: Can you see the screen?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, So every single one of these points will
Speaker 6: have alignments just like the one that you showed, so
Speaker 6: there is a history to each one of them.
Speaker 8: So how let's go in this river?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go see where is here?
Speaker 8: There we go, so what is that?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 8: What is the epicenter right there? What is that nodal point?
Speaker 6: Let me put this straight north? You have to guide me.
Speaker 6: So I think it's around here, right.
Speaker 8: I can't read what's on there yet.
Speaker 7: So I'm at Arlington. I'm not sure if it is
Speaker 7: here or not.
Speaker 6: Saint Matthew Matthew Georgetown's DYEA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, DC is on this like that's one of those coincidences.
Speaker 6: You have Alexandria here those names are also.
Speaker 8: Not coincidence, exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: So you know Fort London, Woodbridge, where is it exactly
Speaker 6: that Mount Bridge.
Speaker 3: Is where the CIA began there acaquon actually but yeah,
Speaker 3: like like here, it's.
Speaker 8: It's a little bit.
Speaker 3: It would be north, you'd be north and east a
Speaker 3: little bit from where you are right now. So you
Speaker 3: zoomed out, Yeah, that's it looks like it's. Oh, no,
Speaker 3: you want to go more to zoom out a little
Speaker 3: bit more. One more click, there we go. There's a
Speaker 3: yellow the the yellow pins that are in the middle,
Speaker 3: the two that are in the middle, that's that's right,
Speaker 3: the right to No, the ones in the middle. There
Speaker 3: are three groupings of yellow pins a little bit higher
Speaker 3: to the right.
Speaker 7: This one's okay, yes.
Speaker 10: What are you looking for?
Speaker 7: So no, no, no, I'm expecting to guide me.
Speaker 3: Zoom in right where you're where the cursor is, right now,
Speaker 3: where that node is.
Speaker 8: That's a note of lines right, Yes.
Speaker 6: All right, I'm recognized, is it you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm looking for a label. I'm curious what what
Speaker 3: cities or what's the town?
Speaker 2: Is it drain cleaning over there? Scroll up a little
Speaker 2: bit more and I had two z's.
Speaker 10: You got an airport?
Speaker 2: I know. I saw everything somewhere before too.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm really curious where's that pin? What
Speaker 3: does that say?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 9: St?
Speaker 7: Patrick Harrysburg?
Speaker 3: All right, so scroll up just a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Not that far, not that far, not that far?
Speaker 2: Did yes?
Speaker 8: Right there?
Speaker 3: You see where the bridge is. Yes, okay, so no,
Speaker 3: don't sue men, don't sun go back to where you were.
Speaker 3: You're doing great, all right, So on the right hand
Speaker 3: side of the bridge, if you uh, go up like
Speaker 3: to where the trees begin, like just stay right there,
Speaker 3: just like move the cursor. Yes, right there, right there.
Speaker 3: Stop stop, That's exactly where.
Speaker 8: I am in this recording. Like that's where I'm sitting.
Speaker 8: Thank you for finding.
Speaker 2: Me this guy, kid?
Speaker 3: You not.
Speaker 2: I suppose I would.
Speaker 5: Be looking for.
Speaker 8: So that's some remote view and stargate ship, yo.
Speaker 2: But there is something going on over here with all
Speaker 2: these connection It.
Speaker 6: Seems to have been scratched or something here.
Speaker 8: That's that's the mountains.
Speaker 1: And all the way it goes through brothers, right, that's
Speaker 1: the Yeah, this is like the Pocono's type hills that
Speaker 1: sort of roll over and over again like that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, where Pittsburgh is this is weird.
Speaker 7: Geology is amazing.
Speaker 3: That's the geology here is unlike anywhere else on I mean,
Speaker 3: like to your point, like the what I'm trying not
Speaker 3: to do is turn this into the Eagles versus the Steelers,
Speaker 3: like this is my favorite team and this is my
Speaker 3: favorite team. I'm like they're just markers, Like there's only
Speaker 3: one home run king, like whether you like them or not,
Speaker 3: Like like as a way to articulate one, go back mystery,
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 2: With that one, Like, Yo, what's going on over there?
Speaker 1: I think I found out one of Joe Biden's son's tattoos.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, the figure lakes tattooed across.
Speaker 3: Exactly that's your That's exactly right. And if you really wanna,
Speaker 3: I mean, the the alignment between the Bay and the
Speaker 3: river and the Lake Seneca, which is the largest of
Speaker 3: the finger.
Speaker 8: Lakes, like the.
Speaker 3: How it lines up so perfectly, and then the history
Speaker 3: and what's happening, like there's a this is this is
Speaker 3: an influential point to the gree degree of this current
Speaker 3: moment of time, not like two thousand years ago, but
Speaker 3: or two thousand timelines ago, but the one.
Speaker 8: We're on right now.
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, So.
Speaker 3: I'm here for like probably I move around a bunch.
Speaker 3: I'm staying at a friend of mine's house. And this
Speaker 3: guy is putting on This guy's is the North America's
Speaker 3: largest shiel legit importer, if you know what that means.
Speaker 3: That's what this guy does. And he's putting on a festival.
Speaker 3: And because he's like a wholesaler of a wholesaler of shieldgit,
Speaker 3: he works with a lot of a lot of different
Speaker 3: people and it's through that network. This this really unusual,
Speaker 3: uncommon meeting of artists like musical artists and visual artists
Speaker 3: and people would be interested in a festival experience, like
Speaker 3: they're coming together.
Speaker 8: And because this guy just so happens to live or the.
Speaker 3: Susquehanna right in Harrisburg, like it's in this area, so
Speaker 3: that is in the next month, So I'm gonna throw
Speaker 3: a plug out for that. That's called He's Shila jam.
Speaker 3: But it's like if you're still nearby, like this is
Speaker 3: an opportunity to actually have an experience like near the water,
Speaker 3: Like if this like resonates.
Speaker 8: Like this is this this? What do they say? What's
Speaker 8: the old joke?
Speaker 3: Like this isn't a dress rehearsal, Like we're really here
Speaker 3: and we're really in our bodies, and like what are
Speaker 3: you gonna do?
Speaker 8: How are you gonna meet it? Why? Why?
Speaker 3: If this was all done for fun, are you having
Speaker 3: enough fun? And what does fun mean? And what does
Speaker 3: all the bullshit? Like it's part of the process and
Speaker 3: this is an opportunity to like actually.
Speaker 8: Have some experience. So I want to throw that out there.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you.
Speaker 10: I love in Wisconsin, so I'm probably gonna be here.
Speaker 8: You're just familiar with the with the area.
Speaker 3: I'm immensely impressed with your with your havity, grace and
Speaker 3: Southern Lancaster knowledge.
Speaker 12: I used to live there, so oh okay, Baltimore, Baltimore,
Speaker 12: there you go exactly where the Dali, that surrealist ship
Speaker 12: like brought down the bridge and the lunar eclipse which mirrored.
Speaker 3: The same thing that happened in Tampa Bay in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty is just like the the plane crash and Reagan
Speaker 3: National just match it, like there's there there's a there's
Speaker 3: a replica occurring right now, Like the timing is like
Speaker 3: there's look at look at how the program's working, and
Speaker 3: that's an indication of there's something going on, and this.
Speaker 10: Here's a program element.
Speaker 1: So one of the things, you know, I was working
Speaker 1: on the highways and I got rear ended by a
Speaker 1: guy right before that bridge, and uh, he completely like
Speaker 1: I mean, completely obliterated himself. He was dead, right, and
Speaker 1: they did a drug test on him, and you know
Speaker 1: he was he was high on coke and drunk and
Speaker 1: everything and slammed in the back of my trailer. And
Speaker 1: so at that point, right before that bridge collapsed and
Speaker 1: everything else, I decided I got to get out of there.
Speaker 10: So I moved out to Wisconsin. And uh, there you go.
Speaker 3: I mean, how much how much sooner? How much sooner
Speaker 3: did you did you leave Baltimore before the bridge went down?
Speaker 3: What was that time gap?
Speaker 10: It was like three years?
Speaker 8: Oh okay, now like gotten early.
Speaker 7: Notice.
Speaker 2: Ah all right, I think did you freeze up?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'm frozen up. So let me see if
Speaker 8: I could reboot that.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, while you're doing that, we'll let everybody
Speaker 4: start plugging the show, because I think it's a good
Speaker 4: time to wrap it up here. Oh all right, uh, Heidi,
Speaker 4: if you want mentioned your show, Michael, let's go back.
Speaker 4: I'll plug a show against for him.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, he was rebuting, so you probably it's disconnected to
Speaker 6: connect again.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, all right.
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Speaker 9: depth with these slides and stuff, so check him out.
Speaker 5: I think it was great.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, say and headless Joy please, Hey.
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Speaker 4: And Ricardo, thank you very much for joining to Please
Speaker 4: let everybody know they can find work.
Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 6: It was a pleasure and it was awesome to meet
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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, yeah, thank you very much, Ricardo.
Speaker 4: And I'll make sure all your stuff is in the
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Speaker 8: So the I've used.
Speaker 3: The Moniker Susquehanna Alchemy for my work, so if you
Speaker 3: search that you'd be able to find it. I do
Speaker 3: have a link tree page which is for people who
Speaker 3: want to work with me.
Speaker 8: Directly.
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't even talk about astrology, but like
Speaker 3: I get rid of all of the contradictions and like
Speaker 3: the zodiacs and like grounded in like knowing the sky
Speaker 3: and actually you know, that's why, actually like having a
Speaker 3: clear understanding, a clear understanding of of the movements for
Speaker 3: the purpose not just to like know my chart, but
Speaker 3: as a way in consciousness to move out a false time.
Speaker 3: Like if you're not purposefully moving out a false time
Speaker 3: and and and and treating your mind in such a way,
Speaker 3: you're you're unconsciously just supporting you know, false false times
Speaker 3: calendar system. So any type of work with with the
Speaker 3: stars or or inner work like you find that on my.
Speaker 8: Link tree and then.
Speaker 3: Also the Sheila jam so that you'd have to go
Speaker 3: and search. But most of my stuff is I like
Speaker 3: it to be hidden, Like if you're going to find me,
Speaker 3: it's because you did a little bit of effort. This
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. You guys were really knowledgeable,
Speaker 3: which is fun for me to speak to people who
Speaker 3: have broader perspectives and new perspectives for this material keeps
Speaker 3: it fresh for me. So thank you very much, and
Speaker 3: also for the opportunity to come on the show next,
Speaker 3: So thank you for that.
Speaker 2: No, of course, no, thank you. I mean, head listen.
Speaker 4: This was the one that was like, oh, you gotta
Speaker 4: get this guy on the show better showing up today.
Speaker 1: You've been a huge inspiration to me throughout my time
Speaker 1: moving out here and everything else. It's been really really tough,
Speaker 1: and listening to you has been a source of strength
Speaker 1: and understanding all throughout that time.
Speaker 10: So I just really want to say thank you, Mike.
Speaker 8: I appreciate that, brother. That feels good to hear. So
Speaker 8: thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, thank you again, Mike. That was really
Speaker 4: interesting and you got me, you know, you got me
Speaker 4: thinking about that area and what's going on over there,
Speaker 4: so very very interesting. And I appreciate the slides. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know that's when you sent me all those slides,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is impressive.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: So again, I appreciate your work and you spending the
Speaker 4: time on the show, and I thank everybody else for
Speaker 4: coming on. That's what's up, and everybody in the chat
Speaker 4: thank you. It was awesome. There was a bunch of
Speaker 4: you's in there. That's why we go live and until
Speaker 4: the next one, everybody be well later.
Speaker 8: Closure us look into the darkness.
Speaker 2: Fine the blazing Star. Oh long, Let it be called
Speaker 2: the Close. Don't fear. Let the show began in death.
Speaker 3: There is a heal