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Service fees 21 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:01.280 and terms apply. 22 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.359 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 23 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.840 A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 24 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.560 demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, Trump dropped the bomb 25 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.439 that is nominating Matt Gates for US Attorney General yesterday. 26 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.359 People continue to run around with their heads on fire 27 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.519 about this pick. Today, Kevin McCarthy saying, there's no way 28 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:24.879 this is going to pass. 29 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:26.519 Muster in the Senate. 30 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.560 That's where we start swamp watching. The swamp is horrible. 31 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.040 The government doesn't work. 32 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.400 Man, Make this like a reality TV show. 33 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:38.239 Bad Noos. 34 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.959 Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, DC. 35 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.159 Hey, Joe, a town all too clearly built on a 36 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:47.760 swamp in so many ways, still a swamp. 37 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:49.519 I have a batch of malarkey. 38 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:50.239 Boy said drain the swamp. 39 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:51.040 I said, Oh that's so. 40 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:55.079 You know the thing. 41 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.519 Well, in all of the preview articles about potential attorneys general, 42 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:05.120 Matt Gates's name appeared zero times checked joining us to 43 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.680 talk more about this. The shock and awful that was 44 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:12.879 described earlier in Washington, d C. Joe Khalil from News 45 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.479 Nation and Joe this name, this Matt Gates as Attorney General. 46 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.319 It seems like the farther away we get from the announcement, 47 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.000 the less likely it is that he would ever be 48 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.080 confirmed to head up the Department of Justice. 49 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:32.120 Yeah. And I think the reason that there was such 50 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.840 shock because there was genuine surprise in this thought that 51 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.360 Donald Trump would never name somebody that would have such 52 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:43.560 an uphill climb to get approved. And that seems to 53 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:45.680 be the case. I've been walking around today talking to 54 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:51.599 mostly Republican senators. Some have said, look, Trump is entitled 55 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.560 to nominate whoever he wants, and you know, Matt Gates 56 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.240 would be someone who they say might drastically change the 57 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.039 DOJ in a way they'd like to see it changed. 58 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.599 But the majority of Senators who have spoken to privately 59 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.680 and some publicly in front of our cameras, even Republicans, 60 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.280 have said they do have serious concerns. If you're not 61 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.599 familiar with Matt Gates, he has made quite a lot 62 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.879 of enemies, not just Democrats, but Republican enemies. He was 63 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:25.439 crucial in removing former Speaker Kevin McCarthy. But the bigger 64 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.159 thing that's hanging over his head are these very serious 65 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.560 allegations that he may have had sex with a minor. 66 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.919 These are just allegations. He hasn't been charged with this, 67 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.280 and that he may have paid for the sex and 68 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.240 also paid to move for across state lines, which adds 69 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:48.639 a human trafficking element criminally to those allegations. The House 70 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:51.159 Ethics Committee has been looking into this for about two 71 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.280 years and they were set to release a report on 72 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:58.960 it Friday, but Matt Gates resigned yesterday after he got nominated. 73 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.639 So it's on clear whether that report is going to 74 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:03.879 come down or not. All of that's hanging over it 75 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:05.000 and sort of driving all this. 76 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.080 What are the chances that they knew something was going 77 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.240 to be huge in that report, something in that report 78 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.719 was going to be scathing, and to avoid that report 79 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:16.480 nominating him. 80 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.759 Well, that is sort of the speculation actually here. And 81 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.759 you know the reason we got for Mattate's resignation was 82 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.839 Speaker Mike Johnson said, if he resigns now, I can 83 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.560 replace him more quickly because the House Republican majority that 84 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.519 they just won is very small. Losing three Republicans to 85 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.519 Trump's cabinet is going to matter so Speaker Johnson said, no, 86 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.680 he resigned so that I can replace him quickly. But 87 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.279 there's a lot of speculation that they just didn't want 88 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.240 that report to get out. Now, I'm not sure that 89 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:53.120 it implicates anyone other than Matt Gates, you know, in 90 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:57.920 whatever alleged criminality is going on, but you know that 91 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.160 there is some speculation there. So and then what. 92 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.839 Where does that report go? What happens to it? And 93 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:11.680 he is resigned, but that doesn't that doesn't follow him, 94 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.199 So what happens to that? 95 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.480 And is there any chance that that leaks out? 96 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.279 So there is a I think strong chance that it 97 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.800 leaks out. By the by the rules of the House 98 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.680 Ethics Committee, by the letter of the law, the minute 99 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:28.480 he resigned yesterday, they no longer have any jurisdiction over 100 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.199 him because he's not a member of the House. So 101 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.439 by the rules, that report should just remain dormant and 102 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.319 not released in private. However, what I've heard is if 103 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.839 Matt Gates is actually the nominee and the Senate has 104 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.120 to review him and vote on him, they often for 105 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:50.399 every nominee will get classified background checks, They'll get classified 106 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.199 briefings on the person they're going to vote for. I imagine 107 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.759 that report would make its way over to the Senate 108 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.920 if senators demand in a classified setting to see it, 109 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.759 because they've got to vote on this person, and you know, 110 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.519 whether he's going to be the top attorney in the 111 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:10.360 United States. Certainly alleged criminality matters in that sense. 112 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:12.639 Yeah, I'm do we know. 113 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:19.319 Have there been vocal senators in Republican senators who have 114 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.480 said there is no chance Matt Gates gets in. 115 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.120 Has anybody attached their name to that sentiment. 116 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.120 No one has said it that explicitly. But I talked 117 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.759 to Lisa Rakowski this morning on camera. She told me 118 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.639 when she heard the news, she was not sure whether 119 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.959 it was serious or whether it was a joke. You know, 120 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.920 we've heard others like Susan Collins stay on the record, 121 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:44.319 you know, what do you think about maggot says you 122 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.680 have a chance to get through. She said something to 123 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.519 the effect of every nominee is going to get a 124 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.240 very strong vetting and of their character and their person 125 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:56.800 and all their history, so you have to sort of 126 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.839 read between the lines. No one has flat out said 127 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.920 I'm not voting for the guy, even know, but there 128 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.279 had been others who who said things like, are you serious. 129 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.879 You know, I'm background who've told us not attaching their 130 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.360 names to it, there's virtually no chance that he gets through. 131 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.680 I haven't seen anyone on the record put their name 132 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.519 on that, but that that is the sentiment that I'm 133 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.480 hearing from many privately. 134 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:23.240 Joe Khalil News Nation, excellent reporting, per usual, appreciate your time. 135 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.480 Thank you guys, happy to do it. 136 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:25.759 Thanks. 137 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:27.680 The more I think about that, the more I think 138 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.720 that's exactly what it was, that. 139 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.160 Trump protect him from the protect. 140 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:35.680 Him from the report as a thank you for the loyalty. 141 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:38.519 Yeah, because I don't know what the policy is if 142 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.439 he resigns before I mean the report, does it just die? 143 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:43.639 Die? 144 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.240 Tech guys, And he brought up Joe brought up a 145 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:45.680 good point. 146 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:46.879 What else is in that report? 147 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:51.120 Who else is Trump protecting, even if they're just tangentially 148 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:52.720 connected to Matt Gates. 149 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.160 So when the name was announced yesterday, when Matt Gates's 150 00:07:56.199 --> 00:08:00.680 name was announced as an attorney general a nominee, Max Miller, 151 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:04.040 a Republican out of Ohio, said most people in there 152 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:05.959 in the House are giddy about it. 153 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:07.480 Get him out of here. 154 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.800 He said, Trump had plenty of other good options for nominees, 155 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.480 but went with Gates to a reward his loyalty, and 156 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:20.079 before the resignation was announced, this Congressman, Max Miller, suggested 157 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.600 that if the Senate hearings on Earth knew and convincing 158 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.759 evidence that the misconduct allegations against Gates were true, that 159 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.079 everybody in the House would vote to expel him, much 160 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.319 like they did with George Santos earlier this year. 161 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.840 Or late last year. Sorry, I mean, there's no love 162 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:34.799 lost this. 163 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:36.480 It may just be a way of getting rid of 164 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:38.879 him and he gets to keep his clean slate. 165 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.200 A lot of people believe that this guy's a clown. 166 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.320 Oh yeah, even members of the House who have been 167 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.679 working with him. So I wanted to I read to 168 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.960 you this piece during the commercial break, but I want 169 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.000 to share with everybody. I was reading from the New 170 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.159 York Times about Max Miller, this congressman out of Ohio, 171 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.600 who said that they were giddy at the thought of 172 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.799 getting Matt Gates out of the House of Representatives, that 173 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.559 he doesn't have a whole lot of fans there. He 174 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:08.279 said that he was surprised that Matt Gates would even 175 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:14.000 agree to this Attorney general nomination. Because of the scrutiny 176 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.960 that comes with that, the investigation, the confirmation hearings, the 177 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.159 rigorous and invasive background checks. And his quote was, I'm 178 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.159 surprised that Matt would do this to himself. I want 179 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.240 to go get a big bag of popcorn and pull 180 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:29.399 up a front row seat to that show. 181 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.519 Is there a world in which he was named as 182 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.200 the nominee for AG so that this ethics report, which 183 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.000 was in its final stages, does not come out, never 184 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.279 sees the light of day, and that he removes himself 185 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.879 as the nominee before they can dig into his background check. 186 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:51.080 And then he lands a lucrative job somewhere where he 187 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.399 takes all the names connected with him and hides them forever. 188 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.879 He does have a law degree, he becomes a lawyer 189 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.000 for the Trump organization or the Trump founda. 190 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.240 I think Trump Foundation is now defunct. 191 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:05.000 But but yes, I mean there is that possible world 192 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.000 where this is a ploy to protect him from whatever 193 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:10.279 is in that ethics report. 194 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:14.080 Yeah, that sounds like it is the most likely scenario. 195 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.879 But as Joe Khalil pointed out, this doesn't necessarily mean 196 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.080 that it's it's it disappears. 197 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.360 No, But I do think it is predicated on what 198 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.039 other names are in that report, even if, like I said, 199 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:32.000 even they're just in Gates's orbit. Yeah, I mean, how 200 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:35.120 many people are they protecting with sand bag in this thing? 201 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.960 From the Kamala Harris file. One of the stories that 202 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.600 came out in the last couple of weeks was how 203 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:46.120 much money that Harris campaign was able to bring in. 204 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.480 That in a matter of months it cossed a billion 205 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:50.399 dollars in fundraising and. 206 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.600 They blew through it to the point of being in debt. 207 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.240 Yeah, now a week since she conceded the contest, not 208 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.559 only has they run out of that billion, they're still 209 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:03.600 asking for more. And in fact, a text message that 210 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:08.080 went out just two days ago, a week after the election, 211 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.440 rights or says high team, it's Kamala. The election isn't 212 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.679 what we wanted, but I will never give give up 213 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.960 the fight. And right now there are still a number 214 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.399 of critical races across the country that are either too 215 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.440 close to call or within the margin of recounts or 216 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.759 certain legal challenges. So they said that the money would 217 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.480 eventually flow to the DNC to help with those efforts 218 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.120 like state recounts or curing the ballots, etc. But one 219 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.679 of the officials acknowledged that there is some debt, but 220 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:42.799 didn't really downplay I'm sorry, but did downplay the significance 221 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:44.840 of it, saying it's not going to be difficult to 222 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.600 pay off by the year's end, and also said that 223 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.440 given the results of the election, it would have been 224 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.639 worse to have lost while sitting on a pile of 225 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:54.919 unspent cash. 226 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:56.360 What a weird spin. 227 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.480 No, no, no, we lost just the right way so 228 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.200 that we could, We could lose with a certain amount 229 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:03.639 of debt. 230 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.080 We wasted enough money to care. 231 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:10.240 One of the great wins from not great win, but 232 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:14.639 one of the great digs from former President Trump at 233 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:19.960 the Harris campaign is Hey, do you guys need a loan? Like, 234 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.879 We'll help you cover the costs of whatever it is 235 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:23.639 that you need. 236 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:27.000 We wouldn't want them to go into any more debt. 237 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.799 Than I've already listen to this one. Elon Musk's new 238 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:37.840 Department of Government Efficiency is calling for volunteers. They want 239 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:44.039 people to send in their resumes via x direct message. 240 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:51.240 Doze wants to recruit quoting here super high IQ small 241 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:55.600 government revolutionaries willing to work eighty plus hours per week 242 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:01.399 on unglamorous cost cutting, then added with a post from 243 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.799 his personal X account that this work would be unpaid. 244 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.559 He wrote, Indeed, this will be tedious work with lots 245 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.639 of enemies, and compensation is zero. 246 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.639 What a great deal, laughing emoji. 247 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:22.120 Well, this is the same pitch, similar to the same 248 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.639 pitch that he told employees of X. Soon after he 249 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.200 bought the company Twitter, he sent an email to staff 250 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:32.240 asking them to commit to being hardcore and work long 251 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:36.879 hours at high intensity, or leave the company with severage 252 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:43.039 severance package. He estimated that about eighty percent of Twitter 253 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.039 left the company shortly after. 254 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:49.720 Wow, I've been seeing a lot more about that Blue Sky. 255 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:52.559 Also more and more people jumping from Twitter to go 256 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:53.200 to Blue Sky? 257 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.080 Are you is trying? 258 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.240 Is that like a playoff of old Twitter with the 259 00:13:58.279 --> 00:13:59.600 blue sky the clouds? 260 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:00.919 Remember that wasn't that their thing? 261 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:02.399 I mean they had a bird? 262 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:06.360 Am I No, I don't need anything else, okay. Advance 263 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:11.120 Auto Parts closing more than seven hundred locations nationwide. Closure's 264 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:16.480 part of a restructuring plan. Roughly five hundred corporate stores 265 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.919 two hundred independently owned stores will close by mid twenty 266 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.720 twenty five. 267 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.240 Called out here for a second, I went get this right, 268 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:29.679 what'd you do? 269 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:30.080 Well? 270 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:31.559 Somebody misheard me? 271 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:33.799 And is this about the Macax? 272 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:35.759 No, not that one. 273 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:40.759 Not about the Bronies either, But it was about I 274 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:44.559 made a comment that Matt Gates might become a lawyer 275 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.200 for the Trump Organization, and then I said, or the 276 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:48.039 Trump Foundation. 277 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.440 But I think the Trump Foundation doesn't exist any. 278 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.440 Gary just threw out a statement kind of like as 279 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.200 a Oh, by the way, besides, the Trump Organization is 280 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:56.919 now defunct. 281 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.000 Why is that, Gary? 282 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.120 Why did they get forced to close down when Donald 283 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.320 Trump won? What did they do that the Department of 284 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.519 Justice made them close? Can you let us know please? 285 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:08.080 Idiot? 286 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.799 Okay, wow, it was the Trump Foundation, and yes, it 287 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.559 was dissolved by court order in twenty eighteen after various 288 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.399 legal violations came to light. 289 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:23.879 Idiot, idiot, that's fun. 290 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.200 It's not like I said it. Did I say it incorrectly? 291 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:28.279 I said, think you were. 292 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.360 Making a major point. It was kind of a throwaway aside. 293 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:32.120 You're an idiot. 294 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:38.399 See how it feels you've actually kind of really took 295 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:39.360 ownership of that one. 296 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:40.799 Did that feel good for you? 297 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.759 I mean I didn't, well that I'm an idiot? Oh 298 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:46.399 that part? 299 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:46.840 Yeah? 300 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:53.360 Yeah, yeah, it felt funny on my tongue. 301 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:56.679 When location sharing is making us miserable. Story in the 302 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.840 Washington Post today about how it is time to say 303 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.120 I know that this twenty four to seven location sharing 304 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:07.159 has invaded our friendships, our romances. 305 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.240 Is it too late to go back? 306 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.159 Where is he going? I'm sorry, I'm just how are 307 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:17.279 you tracked checking my son? 308 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:17.840 Oh? 309 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.039 He is that? Oh? Okay, yes, I know where he's going. 310 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.960 Stargarden munch. 311 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.440 Ashley Reggie is twenty six, lives in Washington State, had 312 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:35.559 a friendship go bad after location sharing spiraled out of control, 313 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:40.080 with both parties checking the other's location dozens of times 314 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:43.559 a day. I had to tell her, Ashley says, No, 315 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.279 I actually don't want to know where you are, and 316 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.080 I don't want you to know where I am. I 317 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.919 want to go up back to how we were before. 318 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.519 Or if you wanted to know where someone was, you 319 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.200 would have to actually ask them. 320 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:55.320 It's a weird. 321 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.240 It's a weird thing, and we've talked about it many 322 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.919 times before. If you have kids and you kind of 323 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:03.759 want to keep an eye on where they are, or 324 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.000 just double check and see if they're sneaky enough to 325 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:10.200 leave their phone somewhere where they're not supposed to be 326 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.960 kind of thing. You have to get into the habit 327 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.519 or you have to get out of the habit of 328 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.839 constantly checking location because it breeds distrust. 329 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:25.559 Yeah, I for me, it's just a hard no for 330 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.720 anyone to know where I am. 331 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:28.720 It creeps me out. 332 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.720 Not that anyone cares where I am or would check 333 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:32.200 or whatever. 334 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.000 Your husband cares where you are. 335 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:35.920 I don't think so. I don't think you would check. 336 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.440 Here's where you are. That's different, but again it's different. 337 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.680 But again problem saying no. I just don't like the 338 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.920 idea of anybody. I like my freedom, my autonomy. I 339 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:49.160 like to go where I want to go and nobody 340 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.720 know about it, right, Like, that's one of the beauties 341 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.759 of when you get an adult, being an adult, or even 342 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.839 when you get your first driver's license at sixteen and 343 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.599 getting in a car and my parents don't know where 344 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:02.920 I'm going. They don't know if I'm gonna get a 345 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.799 left at the stop later, if I'm gonna take a right, 346 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:08.119 And it's just like, I love that feeling of freedom, 347 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.279 and if somebody constantly knows where I am, I feel 348 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:12.960 like I'm in communist China. 349 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:16.599 But you also you just opened your phone and didn't 350 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.759 know if anybody was checking your location or had access. 351 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:20.960 To your location. 352 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.200 Right, Well, ignorance is bliss in that regard. I had 353 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.319 no idea. It turns out one of my friends was 354 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:25.880 tracking me. 355 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.839 Well, and I'm not sure if it meant that she 356 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.519 was tracking you or you were tracking her, although I 357 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:31.960 think it does have to work both ways. 358 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.440 Well, there was a thing where it said turn off 359 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.519 my location sharing, and I turned that off, yeah, promptly. 360 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.279 Not that I care if she tracks. 361 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.160 Me, but there this has come up and I think that, 362 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:45.720 I mean you would probably know as well as I 363 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:50.119 do that the younger people in their relationships, this is 364 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:53.440 a thing like this is it's a moment in a 365 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:58.240 relationship where you shared the polibry. 366 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:58.960 The password. 367 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:01.519 Remember we know if Yeah, we first all started getting 368 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.640 cell phones and that was the conversation of do you 369 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.240 share your password with your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife or whatever? 370 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:10.039 And now it's location interesting. 371 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:13.319 And it came up when I have a a I 372 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:19.880 know someone I created her and she had the issue 373 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.039 of when you break up with somebody or when you 374 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.200 start the relationship, at what point do you share location? 375 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:33.559 Oh man, I was kind of see to me that 376 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.079 it's neutral on the whole thing. 377 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.279 That's almost like controlling behavior. 378 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:40.319 I hate that, right, Well, it can definitely be used 379 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.079 for that, and that was the concern. 380 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:43.799 As I was, I think you don't share that. Guy. 381 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.960 I was generally neutral about it, but said, you can 382 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.519 never be forced into sharing your local do not do 383 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.279 not fall for that. But if you're trusting enough and 384 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:57.880 you feel comfortable enough doing that, then I mean, you, 385 00:19:57.920 --> 00:19:58.519 why can't. 386 00:19:58.359 --> 00:19:59.680 You just shoot a text? Where are you at? 387 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.359 I'm at the home depot? Hard If you're not at 388 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.000 the home depot, you big liar pants. 389 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.400 Well then if you're trying to catch someone in something, 390 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:07.480 then you've got a whole other. 391 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.559 Hostage, right, which which became the discussion like, if there's 392 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:14.880 ever any point where you have to lie about your location, 393 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:15.880 you should not be. 394 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:18.359 You should not be sharing your location with that person, 395 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:19.039 whoever it is. 396 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:20.839 You should not be in a relationship with that person. 397 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:22.960 But it's I mean, this is a weird thing. 398 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:27.480 I have this because I've got you know, it's my wife, 399 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.359 my son, and my daughter, and the four of us 400 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:31.440 share each other's location. 401 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.599