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Speaker 1: Bad Bella, thank you so much for coming on with

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me today. So okay, when I was going through the

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names of the PR agent who she's booking, and this

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and that Erica or dear sweet Erica, we love her,

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I came across yours and I went, okay, bad Bella,

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I don't quite know her yet. Let me investigate, let

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me dive in. Boy, did I get an eyephl or

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an earful whatever it would be. You are amazing. You

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are producing some of the most interesting and like fun

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content out there. Now let me start with the most basic,

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boring question. Take as long as you want answering it

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or as short as you want. What was your initial

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entrance into the adult entertainment industry? When were you like, Okay,

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this is it. I'm going to make that jump, I'm

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going to take that step.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I used to be a fashion model, Like

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I'm a model for designers. I was also a fashion producer.

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I did like lingerie fashion shows, but also like elegant

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evening gowns. I get all of it. I mean I

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was a go go to answer too, Like I was

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in the club industry. I was a club owner, so

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I was like around, can I say you.

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Speaker 1: Can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: So I was like around like the like the sex world,

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but like not fully not inform but so and then

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I stopped doing all that, and then like COVID hit

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and I didn't start right away, but then I saw

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like people like posting about only fans. I was so

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curious what that was. And then I, okay, so I

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don't think I saw this on a podcast before, but

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there's this guy was super hot, to be honest, and

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she started posting it only fans and I was like,

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so what is that? You said filming in progress on

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your story? What is that? What are you doing? You know?

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Like and I'd already started during COVID like modeling again

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as a hobby, and like photographers were always like trying

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to get me naked and photo shoots before that, and

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Speaker 1: Like it's understandable, Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I would do him fly, but I was like, what's

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the point of me spreading my legs and going topless?

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Like for you, Like, what is the point for me?

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I can't post this anywhere? And then during COVID, a

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photographers like, oh, I'll pay you, and I was like, genius,

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I will totally do whatever, like I was like spread

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like topless, like we're good, you're paying me, it's fine.

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So and then and then like I was like, okay,

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only fans, like what is it like? At first I

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didn't really understand how much porn and buts it was

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like I didn't really understand, and so I thought it

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was more like for like modeling photos, like I don't

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really fully understand. I'd seen that guy's story about filming

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in forwers, but I didn't really understand if I've met,

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and so I'd like like i'd really like tame like topless,

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side boob like this like stuff at first, and then

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guys like where your videos? Where your videos? And like

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what videos? And then I yeah, and I was like

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oh oh, and so like so I hadn't been single

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and I got single during COVID. I hadn't been single

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in like eight or so years, so like I hadn't

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sent like news to guys in like eight years, and

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like I hadn't recorded myself like so I was like,

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how am I doing this? I was like holding the phone,

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I was like fingering myself. I was like is this fun?

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This is how I do this? Like, so I saw

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those videos the first two videos I did, which was

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Speaker 1: But do you go back and look at those now

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and be like, oh my god, I didn't know what

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I was doing, or are you like that's kind of

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like vintage shit? Like I get that, and that's nice.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I feel like they're great.

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Speaker 1: That's good. You should have high expectations for yourself and deliver,

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which it sounds like you've done.

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this and then I had a toy there, like I

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mean solid, I figured it out real quick.

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coming into the industry. I mean, word for word almost

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what you said there. She had done modeling before this,

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and that someone mentioned only fans she posts a bunch

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of pictures. I'm not kidding. It's like deje'l vous. Because

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she said some guy reached out to me and he's like,

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where are your videos? And I'm like, what videos? I

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that that is odd that that happened. And I wonder

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but maybe COVID porn stars. I don't ever like associating

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the word baby around anything, but the COVID porn stars.

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Speaker 2: I started at the end of like twenty twenty. I

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wish I started to be getting because, like, dude, those

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girls were killing it, like especially that summer, Like, oh

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it was still like popping off, but it wasn't like

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everybody like that they told me. By the end of

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twenty twenty, it already slowed down so much since the summer,

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like they weren't doing anything, and just like it was

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just so popping in the summer. They were barely doing anything,

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and guys were just like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember I seen money during Covin. I was like, wow,

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never had this much money this because I liked I

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would go to Disneyland like I was, I'm from the area.

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I would to Disneyland like literally every like five weeks

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and like drop like three k. Like every Disneyland trip,

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I would go for a whole week. I would also

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go to Universal like not very far. I would like seriously,

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drop seriously a few thousand dollars just ago, Like I

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would do it all the time. So I was always

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Speaker 1: Now, are you a Disney adult? There's there's they seem

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to be Okay. You absolutely do not look like my

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mental interpretation of what the Internet refers to as Disney adults.

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look probably a little closer to me with about a

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couple hundred pounds more on me. What do you love

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just like it just makes me

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so happy. Like when you first walk in onto Main Street,

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it's just like this euphoria. Like it's just like it's

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just so fun and everything's happy and like there's lights

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uh well like in for like Magic Kingdom. But then

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mostly been to Disneyland and I'm a California adventure and

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then California Adventure Haus, Like it's like the same magic

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a little different. It's it's still just as exciting. Like

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ribes my mommys to Mickey Mouse.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna need to clarify that in a costume

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or she was the actual mouse. Go ahead, I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I don't want to kill the fantasy for anybody,

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but yeah, there's people under there, under those mess Yeah

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she was, she was the head the thing. She did

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you know, white, so my mom was also Bianca from

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the Rescuers Under that's like so outdated.

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Speaker 1: Now I know that I know rescuers down Under. I'm

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I'm I'm outdated now, that's how I feel.

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Speaker 2: Well, no means too, I'm not lazy young, so I

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grew up watching that.

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Speaker 1: You do you say your age? Ever, you don't have

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to if you don't. I just blown away.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what age?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think go around somewhere. I read somewhere, but

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I was blown away. I thought you were twenty four.

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my wife wouldn't like it, but I would. But I'm

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not just kissing your ass. I think you. You seem like

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a type of person that really takes care of yourself

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because your skin's beautiful. And I understand this is the industry.

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Everyone's got to do something. You can't roll in looking well,

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me as long as the dick work.

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Speaker 2: Guys asic function. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Which is my problem and always has been. Do

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you take care of yourself and is that important to you?

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lucky girls whose metabolism's always running no, I work so hard.

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Speaker 2: To look good. Okay, sorry, Like no, I do so

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much stuff, but my whole thing is like bimbo. Like

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I just so much work. I've had three boo jobs.

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like butt hip and plants like soon. I spent fifty

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thousand dollars on butt injections and I'm just too skinny,

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like it's just not and it like they dissolved and

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it's just like that's so much money. I'm like, I'm

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just gonna go get them plans for my butt.

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Speaker 1: So uh. When I was younger, bimbo was never really

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looked at as like the best term to call somebody,

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like that's what my mother would call like the woman

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that came into church wearing Cheetah hot pants, which was

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actually my sixth grade social social studies teacher. It's Cardon

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nudo shadows.

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Speaker 2: That a a crush on her.

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Speaker 1: Oh I mean thic Long Island accent. We yeah, or

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like these little tiny shorts cheetah print to church. And

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oh my god. All the teachers would look at miss

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Cardon Neudo and be like yeah, what is this broad doing?

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Holy shit, doesn't matter. She was awesome. Uh So, bimbo

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when we were younger. I was younger. Whatever you want

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it only in porn that that happens? And what about

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that lifestyle do you like so much with that look

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Speaker 2: Okay, so funny story. I never try to be a bimbo.

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like they want to be a bimbo, like the look,

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the look. I guess like technically the whole bimbo thing

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has mean like a dumb life overly like like work,

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like girl that's like hot, big lips, big boobs, like

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but like done. But like I think that's more of

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a term in like the past. I don't know. As

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and I'm blonde, so like, I mean, you don't have

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to be blown to be bimbo. But like people just

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started like calling me a bimbo because of my look,

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and I was like, oh, do I finally have a

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niche because I didn't really have one before, Like I

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was just like another like I don't know, like blonde girl.

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like niche. Myize I was, I'm glad I have a

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bimo or I have a bimbo book. I've always been

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obsessed with plastic surgery and enhancements and making myself look better.

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Speaker 1: But here I am, do you okay?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: And again I'm not you look like you and I

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look like me, so I'm not giving you, you know,

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instructions here or anything else to follow. Do you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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you do you know where you think your limit will

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be because yes, obviously we both know there are some people.

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What's that cat lady?

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Speaker 1: Isn't there some old lady who's like a catwoman who

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got her head shaped like a cat kind of weird?

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There are people who just have too much in life.

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And I get it. I totally get it. Looks beautiful

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and especially if you get you have phenomenal work done,

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so you've done good. But I always worry girls who

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kind of express like you say about I love the

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plastic surgery, like the idea of maybe self improvement, being

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able to do that, like you can go to the

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gym all you want. Your tits aren't going to get

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as big as they are now unless you have the

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work done right. Do you have the ability to recognize like,

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oh shit, I will go this big, I'll go this far?

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Or do you just play it by ear? Like this

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is how I feel each time I'm going to go

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in for something.

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Speaker 2: Oh I've played by your I don't have like an

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end goal. I just played by your all the time. Yeah.

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I actually I'm afraid of that, actually honest, Like I

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have that fear like what if I do what if

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I overdo it? Like what if I do too much.

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I like something that's not reversible. I always get I

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guess everything is reversible, but like I'm scared that was.

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I won't recognize it right because I don't want to.

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I don't want to overdo it because I feel like

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right now, like I feel like I feel like I

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look like not overdone.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not at all, no, no, no. Overdone is

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the cheeks like hanging over your face. And if you

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see and everyone listening to this knows too, if you

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see bad place of surgery, you know that's bad and

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not even bad too much. And I feel like that's

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a trap a lot of you girls could fall into.

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And by the way, if if you want to get

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ten thousand surgeries, that's not my business, you do you.

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Everyone should, as long as there are no kids and

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no dogs in the room. Everyone's sexual lives and everybody's

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preferences on look should just be to themselves. You know,

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whatever you like. So what is the next surgery you're

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going to go for? Do you have any idea? Do

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you haven't planned yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a couple of things. So like on that note, though,

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I will say like I have been overly injected before, okay,

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and I've noticed it though I've been like, uh, you

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put too much.

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Speaker 1: So it's good you can recognize it though, wy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I ask me, I can't I like, so

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one time my nurse like she was she likes to

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inject my masid urns. I don't know how to say it,

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but the jaw muscles so they're like not as strong.

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But she was like, how does new like talks and

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to put in there? I don't know what happened, but

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she like she didn't know, like she was kind of

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experimenting with that. She you didn't need as much? She

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so much, and I was like, I can't move my face.

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I was just like I couldn't smile, like for like

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but unfortunately I just had to let it like go

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to the process to like dissolve. But I can go

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back to my content pictures and I can see when

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I like couldn't really smile.

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Speaker 1: How did Now I'm going over here again. You're wonderful, uh.

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Pr Agent Erica sends over the little blurb about everybody?

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Would you like me to read it to you? Have

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you ever heard what it is? Let me read the

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first couple of lines.

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Speaker 2: I get so embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: I know it's so I always wonder between that, like

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do girls like their you know about Bad Bela by

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the way, at Bad Bela XO, you know where to

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find that links in the episode description at Bad Bela

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XO is where we're sending people. I don't know if

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they like their descriptions. And the other thing I'm horrified by,

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absolutely horrified by, are some of the titles they put

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on tube sites. Have you ever seen on like X

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videos or your porn hub or anything like that. Some

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of the titles when it's not maybe directly the studio

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putting it up, where it's like chubby girl chubby redhead

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gets and I'm just like, oh no, I'm sure when

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she signed up to get fucked on film she wasn't like, okay,

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make sure you classify me as chubby or a fat

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or whatever it is, or like ugly girl gets plaid

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And it's not all just angry stuff that sounds like

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my algorithm, algorithm, algorithm is very in cell, which it

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is not. But I'm always horrified by those types of things.

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When I see I'm like, oh, you didn't sign up

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for that. Let me read your about real quick. Just

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a couple of lines from it. Here, your favorite blonde

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bimbo freaking spinner. Bad Bela is known for her thirty

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J rack, world class BJ's dirty talk, and of course

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for being a badass performer and creator. That's wonderful. That's

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a nice. That's a nice. There you go, right, uh,

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world class bjs. How did your face being full of

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TOCs and affect your ability to give your world class BJS?

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Speaker 2: I don't think, but I don't think that. I don't

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know how that one got in there. But I do

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good cook pe js. I do like to good BJ,

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so it makes a difference. I love to just slutly

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about it. But that one gets me because I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know how that one got

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on there. I'm like, didn ice, I don't think I.

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Speaker 1: Said that, But maybe it was her own assessment. Maybe

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she had seen some of your scenes and went these

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are world class, which eric.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but oh yeah, so yeah it was.

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It was a little bit. I mean, I still handle it,

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but it was I remember it was like kind of

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like a little awkward. Also, I got from near his

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last November and that was another thing. I was like, fuck,

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like I got a new teeth in here. I got

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to make sure I don't like, I'm like so paranoid

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about gtting teeth on a deck, like I'm so careful

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not to do that. So like I was just like,

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oh my god, what if I can't figure it out?

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But I figure it out. I always figure it out.

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Just like my nails, like they're super long, I figure

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it out.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, are we Marty gra themed

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with that? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I din't confused with the landscape. These are

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definitely Marty Graw nails. I was actually in New Orleans

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for like ten or eleven days parting my ass off,

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flashing titties, and yeah, those are my Marti Gras nails.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you more than just like you

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wanted to get in the porn. You seem like you

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were kind of a fun party girl before that. Is

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that accurate or no? Okay, yeah I was.

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Speaker 2: I was just like a Marti Gras, like nothing to

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do with work, And I.

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Speaker 1: Posted like three on can I say you say whatever

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you want? You're totally fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So like on twitterx like I posted three the

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flashing teddy videos. But I actually have a whole drop

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offs folder because I was like, what am I going

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to do with all these videos and so like now

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like I so, I guess, okay, so technically made it

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into work, but like for the fact, because I was

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doing it for fun, and then it was like after

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the fact that I put into the drop offx so

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like guys, if they want, they can tiffer it and

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get the whole drop off. There's like, I think forty

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videos in there. But yeah, I'm just saying like I was, like, it.

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Speaker 1: Was so fun, So yeah you were you were? I

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got yeah, exactly. Your camera tilted a little and it

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looked like as you were talking, my eyeline just was

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staring at your kids. It was like she's talking again.

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Speaker 4: Camera was like titty, let me is what was the

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first scene you shot, like the first mainstream type of

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scene where it was production study all that shit.

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Speaker 2: That video girls. Actually it was my first scene and

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they don't book girls that look like me. So I

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don't know how I got in, but Anthony, the guy

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in charge, really really liked my like video that I

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sent in, Like I don't know, I was like talking

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about myself, like I don't know. She really liked it

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and said I was like glowing and happy and I

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don't even know. And I wasn't using a filter either,

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so it was a natural glow. They know if he

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was a filter, if anybody's getting into walking, or they

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know if you use a filter. Have my friend she

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have my friend She put her introvideo for like a

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different studio, and they're like, you got to redo this

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without a filter.

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Speaker 1: She's like, damn, they knew. Sometimes the filters are so bad.

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I'm like, yo, what are you hiding That looks like

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you're wearing a fucking Halloween mask. You need to lose

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that filter. I'm sure you're prettier. Some of them work,

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but I've seen some bad ones recently.

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Speaker 2: There's some that just like smooth, like make it smooth,

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like right, like say, I feel like Oily is skin.

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It just kind of like takes that away, but then

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completely change your nose and your cheek shape and your eyes.

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Speaker 1: There's some that the AI is like, there's nothing I

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could do with this, sweetie, Like we're just gonna have

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to make you a kind of face here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, first scene, give my girl.

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Speaker 1: If I was a girl and I shot for net

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video girls. I would take a screenshot, have it blown

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up and frame it. Did you get the perfect doggy

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style shot that they always do where you have the

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ivy behind you at all?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't guess. I don't know. I don't get said

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anything from my see.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, okay, So you do not go back

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and ever like watch your stuff or check your stuff out.

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I don't ever listen to anything I recorded, by the way,

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I like, I listened to the girls as I'm editing it,

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and I go, oh, here's the douchebag again, and that's me.

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So I totally get that. Do you not like watching yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Actually, so sometimes it's like kind

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of cringey because it's like i'd so like awkward for me,

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I got like uncomfortable. Sometimes I have to watch some

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of my son's most only when someone else is like, yo,

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this was dope, like wash it with me, like this

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is a good like like either like a fellow co

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star and like or one of like one of my fans.

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Also something on pornhob from a studio I did, and

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she was just like, dude, that's so good. Okay, like

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so so sometimes I'll watch it back and I'll watch

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it every single second, like fuck yeah, I'm like ringing

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myself on. I'm like, damn, I nailed this shit. This

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is so good. But I just like, don't watch myself.

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That's the main reason why I don't is just because

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it took me so long to make it, Like I

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don't really have the time to watch it back because

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I'm going on to the next thing and I got

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it edit. Then it's like I gotta do the next thing.

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I'm always like, go, go, go go. That's the only

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reason really, But I will tell you my per principal

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saying Fortinsky, damn, that was good.

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Speaker 1: It's nice when you can sit back and admit it

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because I get the same thing. I'm like, I agree.

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I always constantly try and keep moving and this and that.

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But at the same time, there's sometimes when you have

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to go back and like watch and listen to stuff

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and I am just so cringed out by it. When

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I have to hear myself he speak, I'm like, that

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voice sucks. You sound like an idiot, You're asking dumb questions.

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That's just self hatred. I think, at the end of

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the day, most likely it's just how we are.

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Speaker 2: But just so you know, this is going great. I

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love I love your podcast, like you very fluid and

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it's smooth. It's not it's good.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying here. Let me as this. Did

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you shoot any sexual first on porn before anything else? Like, uh,

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if a girl had never done anything before and decided

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the first time I do it is going to be

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on screen. Has there been anything you've done that you

471
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,079
haven't done in your personal life that you started in

472
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,359
port Oh?

473
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, DVP so two dick to my vagina? M hm, yes, okay,

474
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:50,960
so I don't I haven't done like okay, so like

475
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:52,920
I haven't done like a dick in my ass and

476
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,480
my fuzzy at the same time. But I've done a

477
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,480
dick in my ass and a dildo in my to

478
00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:59,759
see which I never go on camera the first time,

479
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,799
basically stuffing all of my goals at once, like with

480
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240
toys or strap bons. I've been on camera for the

481
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,519
first time. I've been. I'm like always like I can

482
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:12,079
see anything you want. Okay, So I've been gaing made

483
00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,359
my strap bons so many times because I used to

484
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,640
mostly do leslie contact Now it's like everything, but I've

485
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,240
been stopped like two straps in my hands mouth butt's

486
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:27,279
see ass like I that was all I've been bloking with,

487
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,759
like strap ons, Like I don't that was all. I've

488
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,400
not doing that my personal life. It's definitely a camera.

489
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: You've heartbroken all the women who listen to my show,

490
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:40,599
by the way, they're like, oh I was going to

491
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,480
strap attacker.

492
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Damn, oh no, no straps, no straws are sorry in my

493
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,319
personal life, but like, am I gonna take like ten

494
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,839
at once?

495
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:54,559
Speaker 1: Oh? Let me. So you said you you mostly started

496
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,519
doing girl girl stuff early on or girl girl, girl, girl,

497
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:04,519
many girl. Did did you notice an increase in sales

498
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,559
and popularity or whatever it was when you started doing

499
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:09,519
more and more boy girl stuff.

500
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a thousand percent.

501
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: Every porn star I interview, I owe, they were always

502
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,160
like I wish I was doing more girl girl stuff,

503
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,160
and I always I'm like, so, how does that sell there? Like,

504
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,519
doesn't doesn't really sell that well?

505
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,079
Speaker 2: I thought I didn't sell it well until recently because

506
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:27,920
I stopped really doing girl girl and then I had

507
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,920
a massive amount of fans being like, what are you

508
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,039
going to release new girl girls? I really sew my

509
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:34,599
fans only unlock my girl girl. I had no idea.

510
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,799
So now I started doing girl girl gun. I mean,

511
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,880
I mean, I do everything and I actually do sell gurgle,

512
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,839
and I didn't really realize it. Wow, I don't know

513
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,519
because I don't know. But like, I mean, the boy

514
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,680
girl sells better, sure, but but I would be missing

515
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,240
out on a big chunk of change if I wasn't

516
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,640
doing lesbian. I'm also super into girls, so like, like

517
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,559
filming is one thing, but like I mean, but like

518
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,480
I when I first started doing Girl, to be honest,

519
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,799
I was like, I already fucked a bunch of ds

520
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:01,799
life and so I was like kind of I was

521
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:03,720
super excited because I was like, because it's like I

522
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,400
don't know, you get nervous like with girls because you

523
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,519
don't know if they're like actually bisexual. Like I've had,

524
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:11,160
like I've had a situation with girls before, but overall

525
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:14,039
like not as many as I would have liked. So

526
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:15,920
when I first got into it, I was like, my god,

527
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,079
I get some the titties and pussy. Like I was

528
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:20,519
so excited. So I kind of like went super into

529
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:23,319
the girl girl. But then I was like and it

530
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,240
was doing really well. First, like I saw like a

531
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,519
Girl for a pretty expensive and then it just died.

532
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,519
So like I so when I started by Girl, yeah,

533
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,440
I like everything went up. But then I think the

534
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,599
balance is what's key.

535
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: It's that or it's that guys always want what's not

536
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,319
in front of them right now too. You know, you

537
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,960
put out a lot of girl Girl, they're like, take

538
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440
a dick. You'd start taking dick, they go, get some

539
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,200
pussy in your face. You know, it's you're never going

540
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,119
to please everyone. As long as you're pleasing yourself and

541
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,240
the people will pay your bills. I guess then that's

542
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,079
it matters, right, you know. Business wise, what would you say?

543
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,480
And again you say anything, I shouldn't have even said

544
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,839
that at the beginning. Don't sweat it whatever. Business wise,

545
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,480
do you like shooting mainstream stuff or is it an

546
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,160
ends to a mean to get people to your only fans.

547
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. No one's asking that on podcasts.

548
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,200
So I do like shooting me the stream, I actually

549
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,759
really do. Some scenes are way more fun than others,

550
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960
some days are easier than others. So I feel like

551
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,400
at one point I was taking every single gig that

552
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,440
was getting offered to me, and a lot of those

553
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,759
good gigs were really low paying gigs, and so I

554
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,039
was some are not, but like some old bought work.

555
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,279
So I feel like I got really freaking burnout, to

556
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,920
be honest. So then I started getting less fun. But

557
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,559
now I'm only taking like the gigs that I want

558
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240
really like I really want so like and not as

559
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,400
much so I can conserve my energy more. It's so,

560
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,599
I mean, I do like I wanted to do porn

561
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,240
for like way before I did it, I just was

562
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,119
having so many surgeries that I couldn't start for like

563
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,799
two years. After a scout found me on Instagram and

564
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:16,799
I was like yeah, and then I had so many

565
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,839
surgeries i was able to do it. So I you know,

566
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,480
I definitely wanted to do it. Oh yeah, but yeah,

567
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:25,519
does that help me get guys from my only fans?

568
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,599
I would say yes, But does it give me massive

569
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,519
amounts of fans? I don't really think so, because I

570
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,640
do so much to promote myself on platform. I'm like

571
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,000
constantly working like promoting myself everywhere, like so I get

572
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,599
way more fans, not from mainstream, but like I do,

573
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,279
I do know that I've had some like good fans

574
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,319
that come in from like the mainstream stuff, and they

575
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,119
just like are like, are obsessed. They got booked on

576
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
a scene and they're just like, you know, but I

577
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,519
don't think it's massive amounts though I don't know.

578
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,359
Speaker 1: You don't always tell me it's tough. The the power

579
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,799
dynamic has shifted to the women in this industry for sure,

580
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,960
And you know, people in the industry will say like, oh,

581
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,519
you know, there'll always be another girl that turns eighteen

582
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,039
and wants to do this and this and that. But

583
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,519
you are building your own like individual followings in a

584
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,160
way that when I was a kid, it was just

585
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,559
going to like, you know whatever, looking Gianna Michael's tits

586
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,160
and then waiting for LimeWire to download over like you know,

587
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:24,799
six hours. But you know exactly what I'm talking about

588
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,240
LimeWire Kazah, Yeah, Okay, you know what?

589
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Wait, can I ask you are.

590
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,119
Speaker 1: Whatever you want? One hundred percent? You say whatever. I

591
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:32,119
was born in eighty seven.

592
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: What month?

593
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I think I know your birthday? So it would be

594
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,200
funny if I hit you with the same one now

595
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:41,559
November twenty seventh.

596
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. We're like, we're like super simarn it.

597
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: We're like we're the same age, and that's what shocks

598
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,920
me because I look like I'm about sixty five and

599
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
you look like you're about twenty four. So I need

600
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,000
to start fixing my diet.

601
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: He was my age, that's why I was okay. But

602
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,519
I'm only twenty seventh. That's why I'm like, So I'm

603
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:01,920
not like that. I'm older than you.

604
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,279
Speaker 1: Oh wow, she's talking to an old lady here. So

605
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,559
do you often play MILFs? I'm just kidding. Yeah, it's

606
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:11,359
funny you talked about niche. You said, bimbo, have you

607
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,519
been offered any niches that you were not interested in?

608
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Because important we see sometimes it's a twenty six, twenty

609
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,880
seven year old woman and she's playing a milf and whatever,

610
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,519
but I don't see you. Look what. I don't see

611
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,640
you playing milf yet maybe down the line.

612
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: That's tough for me because I don't look super milty.

613
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:38,559
But like, I've definitely played Mels for sure, obviously, Like

614
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:42,160
I mean, I'm not eighteen, and like you said, there's

615
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,839
girls that are playing melts at twenty five. But it

616
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,839
does case me issues because I'm like in a weird

617
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920
place where I don't also look like howm I eighteen,

618
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,599
so like, and I don't look super milty, so I

619
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,640
feel like, I don't know, I feel like it'd be well,

620
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,599
I don't know. I'm fine with how I look and

621
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,000
I am. It does cause me issues because sometimes people

622
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,759
don't know how to place me in a scene, but

623
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,119
I do. I have played yeah, I mean I play

624
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720
a really good step mom. Though I like doing that.

625
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,920
I love doing that, but yeah, I played milk roles.

626
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,200
I've also one time I got booked and they're like,

627
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,119
you're the step daughter. I'm like, what do you mean

628
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,119
I'm the step daughter? Did you mean step mom? I

629
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,039
was like, I'm not young, Like what's happening? And he's

630
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,240
like no, no, Like the woman's like she's older than me.

631
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,359
I was like, oh, okay, I forget. She wasn't that

632
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,279
older than me. She was like eight years older than me.

633
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:34,640
But she's a glenbow too. And I mean it worked,

634
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,319
I guess because they play they play people not that

635
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,799
much aged. Your friend's like, oh, your stepmom is like three.

636
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,519
Speaker 1: Years old with you, and that was what I was saying.

637
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:47,640
There's there's girls who are like twenty five years old

638
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,799
who were like, I'm playing milk. So maybe it's not.

639
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,359
It's definitely it's not an age thing. Maybe it's a

640
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,440
look thing, and it's not this person looks older. This

641
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,319
it's just a different look. You have a youthful, young

642
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,799
look you. I don't know, Maybe I'm off. I actually

643
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:07,000
could see you playing step which, by the way, I

644
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,680
want to get into that question about that, but I

645
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400
could see you playing step daughter, stepsister or whatever it is.

646
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:15,480
I you know, that's just me, are you? That trend

647
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,720
has been going on for about ten years now, maybe

648
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,599
a little bit longer. What are your views on the

649
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,519
foe incest in porn the step sister. Don't worry, I've

650
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:30,039
only spent ten years living in the same house as her.

651
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,839
She's not blood related though. Time to fuck. How do

652
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,559
you feel about that whole trend? In that whole thing?

653
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,279
And again, no judgment. I have no judgment on anybody

654
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,720
or anything as long as it's legal. So please to.

655
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,759
Speaker 2: Be honest as I got first when I first started

656
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:48,319
unting part and I was like this is odd. I

657
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:52,279
was like, this is a little Is this normal? I'm like, wait,

658
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,759
people fantasize about their selling so that I never did.

659
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:57,720
I mean, great, I will be step but like I

660
00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:59,759
don't know, but like you know where that goes, like

661
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,079
whole like you know anyways, but I never I never

662
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,920
felt that way anyways. But to be honest, like now,

663
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,519
like I know, it's so freaking normal, Like I like,

664
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,400
I don't know it's but I actually I love I

665
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:14,920
really actually like playing us a stepmom and like and

666
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,359
like mommy.

667
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: So that's nice. You have another niche you can grow into.

668
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,319
I just started this.

669
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:24,039
Speaker 2: Whole like mommy thing like recently, and I'm like, I

670
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,400
don't know, it's so fun. I love it like guys.

671
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440
I love because guys love it. And I play like

672
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,400
mean mommy, flooding mommy, goon mommy, like I feel all

673
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,079
the mommies.

674
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,759
Speaker 1: How do you separate that from hot bimbo girl in

675
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,000
this scene? How are you the tough mom now? Is

676
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:46,400
it just strictly in your dialogue and how you're presenting

677
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,400
it or do you storry to use crass language fuck

678
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,519
differently when I'm just kidding on the crass language thing?

679
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,680
Do you fuck differently when you're playing mom versus something else?

680
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I can either be like a slut bimbo

681
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:07,759
fucked doll like oh daddy, like you know, thinky daddy

682
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:13,760
as a bad girl, like I don't know or but

683
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,679
like so I was just mostly doing that for a

684
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,559
long time because I feel like with my look, that's

685
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,800
like what I thought, what I thought every wanted me

686
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,800
to do. But I'm actually more dumb actually in my

687
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,920
personal life. So then I just recently discovered in the

688
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,159
last sixt few months, like, oh my god, I have

689
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:29,880
a whole fan base that wants me to be dumb.

690
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,199
And I'm like, so I get to do both. I

691
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,000
like to do both. I'm a Swish but like, but

692
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,159
I do like to I like to dom so like

693
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,079
I do a lot of femdomp was it just depends,

694
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,920
like I know, almost a lot of guys now like

695
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,360
me pegging my sex all.

696
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: Like wait, wait, wait wait pegging your sex, doll.

697
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: I just looked over it was right there as I

698
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:50,559
just thought of it.

699
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,599
Speaker 1: That sounds like that sounds like if you weren't as

700
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,639
hot as you were, that might be a sad thing

701
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,519
on Friday night for somebody. No guys love that, No, no, no, no,

702
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,480
I know you no, I know, but like I just

703
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:11,039
picture I just pictures like some I don't know. I

704
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:12,360
guess it would have to be a girl, and this

705
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
is maybe a guy with a small dick who wants

706
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:15,960
to feel what it's like to have a big dick.

707
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:17,800
And it's a Friday night, and all his buddies are

708
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,400
out in there, you know, at the movies with girls

709
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,599
or this and that, and here he is in the

710
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:25,800
corner in his one bedroom apartment, bed obviously on the floor,

711
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,800
no frame on it, and he's just pounding away with

712
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,599
a strap on at his sex doll, which he paid

713
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,880
I don't know, five six thousand dollars for to get

714
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320
it exactly to look like his favorite porn star, Bad

715
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,119
Bella at Bad Bella XL. And he's just going away

716
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,880
and then you know, his dick's kind of rubbing on it,

717
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,360
and then he eventually just premature Jack's all down his leg.

718
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,000
And I don't know if any other scenario other than

719
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,239
you doing it, I think is not great. Sorry, did

720
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,480
I just paint a picture there?

721
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: I was laughing? But likely wait, like they weren't They

722
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,039
want to I have a meal sex styll. They want

723
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:02,280
me to.

724
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,519
Speaker 1: I thought you were pegging another sex doll, like a

725
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,719
chick sex doll.

726
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,079
Speaker 2: No, but like a guy. They want it in their ass.

727
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:13,519
Speaker 1: Okay, what is that.

728
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,119
Speaker 2: It's like wait a minute. I was like okay, But

729
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,920
so I do different things, like say like some guys,

730
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,800
like some guys have a small dick and they like

731
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,599
want me to just like punish their ass and like oh,

732
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,039
they're not allowed to come, right, Or some guys just

733
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,360
like wanted like more sensual and they like in the

734
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,119
ass and then they want to like fuck me in

735
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:34,920
the ass and then I put like a dolo on

736
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,840
my ass right, or I haven't put that too. I'm

737
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,400
looking at my sex all it's a male sex. I

738
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,280
felt like the biggest sick ever. He has like such

739
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,639
a big dick. So I haven't put that one in

740
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,840
my ass. Yeah. I was a little scared, but one

741
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,880
day one day anyways, Yeah, so like guys like all

742
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,719
different things. There's like chings for everything, and I'm like

743
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,039
exploring and I'm like doing the mommy thing and like

744
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,039
doing like big bo goddess are like you know, you

745
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,639
know the mommmy Like sure, I don't know, it's just

746
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,039
id at all. Or like also be a fucked off.

747
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 1: Is there a niche or a kink or a fetish

748
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,920
or something like that that you hope has the same

749
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,079
kind of boom that the faux incest thing has. Is

750
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:23,639
there anything you see nowadays or important or what something

751
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:25,800
you would maybe even want to start and you hope

752
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,960
it really takes off like a trend or anything like that.

753
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,039
It might be no, might be your answered. I don't know,

754
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:34,880
you don't know.

755
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,039
Speaker 2: I feel like there's so many things that are like dead,

756
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,039
Like well, I starting a law of sport constant lately,

757
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,239
and I know that's already a thing. I'm trying to

758
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,199
be more an anal.

759
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:48,599
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, let me, let me give you mine.

760
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,519
I'll tell you. This has been so interesting to me

761
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,599
when you think about the psychology of this free use,

762
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,079
I find extremely interesting because you can look at it

763
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:01,920
from a bunch of different ways. By the way, I

764
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,119
hear a torrential downpour on the outside of my studio,

765
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,199
So if I cut off and die, will end the

766
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,199
interview there, and I'll make sure i'll wrap everything up.

767
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,159
But I just don't want to be knee deep into

768
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,039
conversation with you and just go and you sit there like, wow,

769
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,760
what did I say? Anyway, free use is so interesting

770
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,880
to me because there are so many different dynamics you

771
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,599
could look at it as right, let's just say you

772
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,639
are with some guy and it's a free use type

773
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:30,199
of thing. Well, there's one scenario where you are just

774
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,239
an object. He's walking by, he's throwing it in you

775
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719
doing what he needs to do, and continues on right,

776
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,320
And that's like a male dominant thing. But there's also

777
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,840
a kind of a female dominant thing, like I'm hanging out,

778
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960
I'm writing out my check book, whatever the fuck it is,

779
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,079
Da da da da da. Some guy comes in slides

780
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,320
into me. I am so unfazed by this guy's dick

781
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,000
that I don't even recognize it. He's just doing whatever.

782
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,760
I'm not an object, he's an object. What do you

783
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,679
think of free use? I just kind of want more

784
00:38:58,679 --> 00:38:59,960
people to be like, free use is fun.

785
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually agree with that one. I didn't think

786
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,119
of that. Thank you, So I didn't even know what

787
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,639
for you. It wasn't tot Well, I guess it's been

788
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,119
a whole year. My god, time flies literally a year

789
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,039
this month. It feels like just yesterday. I did a

790
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:18,599
free scene for Teamski, and yeah, I was like this.

791
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,199
I was in a French maid outfit and I was

792
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,159
just like, I didn't I had like two like words

793
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,960
in the entire three parts, like it was three scenes

794
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,559
and totally different, like location location, three scenes for this thing.

795
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,199
I said like thank you, I think maybe or please,

796
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:37,119
and I was like it and like anyway, I'm like

797
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,719
cleaning and getting fucked and then there was a three song,

798
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
so it was it was actually really cool. I never

799
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,559
heard for you. I was like, oh my god, I

800
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,440
kind of want to do something like this for my bullifans.

801
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,039
But like, I don't know is it I don't think

802
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:50,559
it's like, I don't know is it a trend because

803
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:51,920
I haven't tried it yet because didn't know if it

804
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,760
was gonna Yeah.

805
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's there's websites that do it specifically,

806
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,280
you know, even owned by a lot of the other

807
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
ones like Umbrella site type stuff, and uh yeah, I

808
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,320
just I find it interesting. There's like a there's the

809
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Japanese and I am not one of those Japanese guys.

810
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,400
I'm not like, hey, by the way, check out my

811
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,800
anime podcast on the side, no disrespect Tom, it just

812
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,360
ain't me. But there's like a lot of the Japanese

813
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,960
stuff that I find interesting that sounds weird and stupid too.

814
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:19,920
Have you ever seen the clips of like a news

815
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,960
reporter reading and she's just reading the news and then

816
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,840
like guys just come up and it's a bukack scene

817
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,079
and it's just they're spilling on her face and she

818
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:31,480
doesn't break stride. She's like the Mets one today four

819
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,159
to two, beat the shit out of the braves and

820
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,920
whatever it is. I there's something I find and I

821
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,519
don't know if it is a we go back to it.

822
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
This is gonna be a shrink session for me if

823
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,599
it's a self hatred thing, Like I really want to

824
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,559
come right now, but I don't want her to acknowledge me,

825
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,920
because she probably fucking hates me. I wonder if that's

826
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,159
an aspect to it too. But I like the idea

827
00:40:54,280 --> 00:41:01,199
of making someone an object, but it's not it's not

828
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,000
obviously against their choice or anything like that. Like they're

829
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,039
okay with that, and I think that's like a domin subthing, right,

830
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,599
does that make sense? Okay?

831
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,599
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, fore this is great.

832
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,519
I forgot about that. It's it's great. It's like totally normal.

833
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,000
The other two for people my threesome, they were talking

834
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:22,199
that whole time, is like it was okay, So it

835
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,199
was like it was like a guy, a dad and

836
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,960
his stepdaughter and then me the maid. I think they're

837
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
just cleaning, and then like liaking pussy hears. I think

838
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,639
that getting stuck.

839
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: It was just like, that's the best of both worlds.

840
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,239
You get your house cleaned and you get your dick suck.

841
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,480
That's awesome. I do a thing on this. I do

842
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,559
a thing on the show called stat check. Okay, we're

843
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,079
going to check your stats, and look, these are so

844
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,639
off you wouldn't believe how incredibly wrong these are. But

845
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,119
it's a good measuring stick. So we're going to use

846
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,079
ia FD, the Internet Adult Film Database, and I'm going

847
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,079
to go through what it currently has listened for you. Now, inevitably,

848
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,280
your answer is going to be no, that's wrong. No,

849
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,559
I definitely did that. No, no, no, I agree. I agree.

850
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,280
This does not count. Everything doesn't count. Onlyfan this and that,

851
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960
blah blah blah. But it's a nice little milestone so

852
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,039
that when I have you on a year from now

853
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,840
and you're racking up awards and I'm like, I can't

854
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,800
see a belly, you have too many avns around you,

855
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
and you're like, get over it, jerk off. You know,

856
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:25,000
I want to do that as kind of a measuring stick.

857
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:30,000
So stat check number of scenes you have done forty seven,

858
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,119
number of guys you have worked with, fifty four, number

859
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,679
of girls you've worked with forty two. You are an

860
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,440
equal opportunity fucker. It seems like that's wonderful, that's great,

861
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,039
And uh, no nominations and no av and awards yet,

862
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:46,880
is that correct?

863
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to live for the first time to

864
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,039
get nominated. Actually, I don't know why I'm doing. I

865
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:52,559
just talked that. So Eric and I talked to me

866
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,480
yesterday for like or it was at eighty four for

867
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,639
like an hour on the phone. It was like two

868
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,239
days ago, and like, I was like, dude, what am

869
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,199
I supposed to do to it nominated? She's like I

870
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,039
was like, She's like, I'm posting things on my on truit.

871
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:05,440
You're not seeing them. I was like, Oh, I didn't

872
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,280
see them. No, I don't because I don't get notsications.

873
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,719
I don't know why. And so I'm just now trying

874
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,519
like a week late. But I'm like, okay, wait, so

875
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,599
I have to like tell my fans to nominate me. Okay, cool.

876
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,639
So I'm just trying. This is the first time I'm

877
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:21,280
like really trying. She has seen that everybody knows this stuff.

878
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,039
I'm like, I don't know what's the red carpet. I haven't.

879
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719
I don't know. I'm just I know how to do worn.

880
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: But I.

881
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: Get like nervous with red carpets. So I actually haven't

882
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,400
even walk on yet because I get like, I don't know,

883
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,679
it's just I'm not shy, but like I don't know.

884
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,199
I don't know why, but it makes me anxious. So

885
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,280
I have to do one soon. I maybe an exoctor Chicago.

886
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,199
I'll do it go ahead because it's called gonna be

887
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:45,960
smaller than Avian. I don't know. I just call for whelones.

888
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,159
Speaker 1: Are you naturally an introvert at all or no?

889
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I was an extrovert, to

890
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:57,159
be honest, but like I'm also super introverted. I'm definitely both.

891
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: That's and I'm getting that more and more from these

892
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,559
interviews I do where I'm talking to a girl and

893
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:05,079
we're like, okay, so you took twelve dicks in this

894
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,400
scene and they all blue loads on your face. You know,

895
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,239
are you naturally a person who's out word? And they're like, no,

896
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,400
not at all. I just like being at home with

897
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,119
my cat. I do the scenes and I work and

898
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:18,519
I like it there, but when I'm home, I want

899
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,440
to be in pajamas and blah blah blah blah blah.

900
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,320
And I'm just shocked by that because again, like you

901
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,159
would say, like we talked before about okay, okay.

902
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: So like extremely both but like I definitely but like

903
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,920
I'm just like a New Orleans like flashing stake washing

904
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,679
toples on the street. Like so I'm like, well, the

905
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,039
meeting people, but like I also really need my time alone.

906
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,880
But like, to be honest, like Avian stressed me, stresses

907
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,880
me out, like not like the last Exotica I went to,

908
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,800
I was like in my element, like I was cool,

909
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,840
but like a v and the last one, I was

910
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,079
so overwhelmed, like I was having Sowmu's anxiety because there

911
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,480
was just so many people. So I didn't I didn't

912
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:58,840
go to the war. I didn't go to the red carpet.

913
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,119
Speaker 1: It's so funny because all the other performers were if

914
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,719
what they've told me is correct, they were all feeling

915
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,320
the exact same thing as they were smiling and walking

916
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,360
the red carpet, probably thinking like I am so fucking

917
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,519
anxious right now.

918
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: I've heard it would fall.

919
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, maybe that's how you get a

920
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:19,400
numb You are the funny girl who fell, and then

921
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,239
oh my god, look at this stuff she shoots. It's

922
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,639
so fucking hot too. Blah blah blah. By the way,

923
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,639
at bad Bela XO, make sure you check the episode

924
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,719
description for links to everything. It's very important that we

925
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,679
support creators because if you don't, they don't create, and

926
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,320
then you're done doing all the fun stuff you get

927
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,599
to do and interacting with these people and everything. Let

928
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:47,599
me ask you about expectations versus reality. Did you expect

929
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,880
that so much of working in porn was going to

930
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:57,079
be not shooting porn, meaning social media stuff?

931
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

932
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: I did.

933
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: I got I got that because people don't are like

934
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:02,679
I can't tell people like I'm so busy all the

935
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,519
time and I'm always working, and people like don't get it,

936
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,400
and I don't know how to explain to them, like

937
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:11,199
every second in my life I'm working, like I'm like

938
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
literally like I mean maybe not every second I sleep

939
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,400
sometimes but sometimes but anyway, it's like, I like, it's

940
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,320
literally like it's such a small percent actually filming compared

941
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,039
to everything else. It's so much work. If you want

942
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:29,840
to be successful, you're constantly doing I'm like, I told people,

943
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,280
it's like it's a regular job. Like I do a

944
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,039
lot of clerical work. I'm doing like admin stuff. Like

945
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,400
I'm like, I don't think it's just sometimes I'm sucking dick.

946
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,760
But I mean I sick that a lot, but it's

947
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,559
still is not like the most of it, you know

948
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,800
what I mean. Also, really curious where did you get

949
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,239
those stats?

950
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Though?

951
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 2: By the way, so I want to clarify for the

952
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,639
viewers and people listening, my body counting porn is hundreds,

953
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,880
So I don't know if you're just getting that from

954
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,760
my professional things.

955
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 1: Maybe that's likely what it is. So IAFD, it's like,

956
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,039
do you know what IMDb is the movie data bait?

957
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:02,599
You want to look something like that. It's the same thing,

958
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,000
but for porn girls. Now here's the thing they used

959
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:08,800
to just count mainstream stuff. Recently I've been seeing more

960
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,679
like many VIDs and of and stuff like that, but

961
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,119
it's been no way accurate. There's just no chance. So

962
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:16,960
I understand no.

963
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: Way because I've done like I don't like a dozen

964
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,280
or so orgies even have like thirty people at it,

965
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,360
so like, how could you even I don't even know.

966
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,760
I don't even remember how many decks I sucked in

967
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,679
the orgy because I started three people. I'm not sucking

968
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,119
every guy's day. They grows you guys, but like I'm

969
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,320
not like thirty, but like I'm probably sucking at least

970
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,960
seven in I don't know, you know, Oh I did

971
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,199
one though it was a sorry, it was a train

972
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,639
please please please go ahead? Who's the training thing is? For?

973
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,519
Howway tour? We were like all lined up on two

974
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:48,199
bags because we usually do orgies and big places, but

975
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,519
we were aut Exotica, so we had a hotel room, right,

976
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,239
so guys were like going. There was I think like

977
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,840
thirteen guys, so we slept and fucked each one of

978
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,920
those dicks several times. They were going in a line

979
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,920
to all those girls, rotate, rotate, rotate, rota. There were

980
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,760
two minutes rotudinous, and then the guys would go back

981
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,760
and line and come back and go back, and it

982
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,199
was like an hour or so long.

983
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: That's me knocking on the door asking can I please

984
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,760
get in that line? And then they make me get

985
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,320
down on my knees. I'm on the other line, I

986
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,239
go to an Exotica, New Jersey, I know, armpit of

987
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,400
New Jersey of America. That's okay though, uh yeah yeah.

988
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,159
I go to Exotica, New Jersey with my wife every year.

989
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,079
And I wonder that because you see stuff shot afterwards

990
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:34,800
and it's in a hotel room, are there any like

991
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,679
precautions with what you've seen of any of that stuff

992
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,840
in terms of like we need to make sure we

993
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,960
don't get kicked out of this place for being too

994
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:46,800
loud or anything. Or the hotels that are at these events,

995
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,519
do you think they kind of just get it, like

996
00:48:48,639 --> 00:48:51,280
this weekend's gonna be a mess in a good way.

997
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: I've never gotten in trouble at a hotel room. I

998
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,719
had fal banging on the door within the walls, like

999
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,760
banging on the walls, like shut the fuck up. Oh yeah,

1000
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,039
that's happened. But like, I've never gotten in trouble at

1001
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:07,599
a hotel. VERBMB is where you gotta be more careful?

1002
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Is that to all of the people who are listening

1003
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,679
to this who rent out their airbnbs, is that happening.

1004
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: And your airbnbs? Okay? So I only I only hosted

1005
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,880
one flophouse where I was the house in airbnbe. But

1006
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,519
I did let them know we will. I didn't necessarily

1007
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,639
say we're gonna be like filming porn, but I said

1008
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:31,159
we will be naked with camera EQUI that okay, in

1009
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,400
every part of the house and backyard. It was a

1010
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,679
huge backyard. So I was like, just so you're aware,

1011
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,079
because if you have cameras, you are going to see that.

1012
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: If you have cameras, you're still gonna need to subscribe

1013
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,800
so that I can make money from that video. But

1014
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,880
thank you. You should tell them that they oh.

1015
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: Their cameras are running. They're just there. And I was like, bullshit,

1016
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,400
but just so you're where, don't kick us out please,

1017
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,480
So I did because I'm just paranoid. I don't want

1018
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,039
to get kicked out. And I like let them know.

1019
00:49:59,199 --> 00:49:59,920
It was a big crop.

1020
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,559
Speaker 1: So you know, was this in like La or Vegas

1021
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,199
or something like that. Okay, so it's in an accepted place,

1022
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,719
like they kind of get it, like you couldn't go

1023
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,480
to Montana and do that. Likely.

1024
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm always heard about the cameras. It's like

1025
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,880
I don't know, I don't know, but like I don't know,

1026
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,199
So like when other people have posted I don't know

1027
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,519
if they like let them know, but I don't know,

1028
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,559
but you can definitely get kicked out of airband. It's

1029
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,199
for sure for feeling foreign. Oh one time I was

1030
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,679
in at AIRBANB and I was in the driveway and

1031
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,159
we were doing like this photo show and bikinis and stuff.

1032
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,920
But like but then like me being a little slept that,

1033
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,800
I am like, the guys were driving by, and then

1034
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,679
they started getting out their cars and just watching the

1035
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:47,679
photo shoot, and I'm like flashing Teddy's and showing my pussy.

1036
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:49,880
I don't know. I was just like, this is fun.

1037
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,920
But then apparently one of the neighbors called the owners

1038
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,199
of the maybe and he's like so, but he was

1039
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,960
super cool by the way, so he was just like

1040
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,159
texted my friend who was the want to rent it.

1041
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,159
She's like, so we got to call that you're filming

1042
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,320
porn out on the driveway. We were not folding porn. Sure,

1043
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,280
we weren't even filming. We were shaking photos. He's like,

1044
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,000
he's like, I just checked the cameras and it looks

1045
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,320
like you're not You're just doing a photo shoot mekinis.

1046
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,800
But maybe you should wrap it up and take that inside.

1047
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,719
So luckily when I read, well, I guess he's recorded.

1048
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,199
He might have actually seen it, but he was just

1049
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,760
like awkward about it though I forgot that did happen.

1050
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: That's a series. Turn that into a series. Set up

1051
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,679
cameras up high, like security cameras and shoot Airbnb porn

1052
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,920
type of thing. Is that a thing already? Do people

1053
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,159
do that? All high camera angles, cutting between that and

1054
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:54,960
maybe side camera angles, like, oh, that's a I don't

1055
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,440
want to bring babies into it again, but that's a

1056
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,440
baby monitor over there. Like you have a whole scenario

1057
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:05,079
you could say up where maybe the niche is this

1058
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,960
looks like I'm looking in on a couple, but it's

1059
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,079
a portant scene. No, think about that.

1060
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:14,519
Speaker 2: Well, I've done several orgies where where I will set

1061
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,400
up a live stream, but yeah, where it's like where

1062
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,639
I'm so I do live streams where I'm working, like

1063
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,280
talking with the fans, and I'm like, hey, like if

1064
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,960
you want titty flash fifteen dollars, I my soul and

1065
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,079
myself says, you know what I mean, like like you know,

1066
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:30,519
I want my paint, you know that kind stuff. But

1067
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,840
like for like orgy stuff, like I will like not

1068
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,519
just me, but other people will set up like our

1069
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:38,960
like phone cameras and like just press play and they're

1070
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,119
seeing all the raw They're seeing all of it. They're

1071
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,679
seeing before we even start like getting into it, how

1072
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:47,079
we set up, how we they're seeing all the fun.

1073
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,119
They're seeing all of it, and like in real time

1074
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,760
and like non edited, just like real time. So I mean, yeah,

1075
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:54,920
we've done that too, where it's just like you're just

1076
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:59,639
seeing they're seeing allful affords or when we cut, they're

1077
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:03,599
seeing are are I don't sorry banter, but are like

1078
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:07,519
how do we interact with each other between scenes and stuff?

1079
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:08,400
So yeah, they can see that.

1080
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: I like all that stuff. Truthfully, I do enjoy that.

1081
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:14,679
I like the behind the scenes kind of aspects sometimes.

1082
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,239
I especially like those fake behind the scenes things where

1083
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,559
a camera guy is like, hey, you know, you finished

1084
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,960
filming your scene now, but you know, blow me over here.

1085
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,760
I really like that because I can never imagine myself

1086
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,880
as the porn guy. I can only ever imagine myself

1087
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,840
holding a camera. Last question here for you, bad Bella,

1088
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,360
what is the endgame? Is there an endgame with this?

1089
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:40,880
Do you want to make ten mil and be out

1090
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,880
of the business? Do you want to be shooting instead

1091
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,400
as bad Bella, as Guilf Bella forty years from now,

1092
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,119
Like what is what is? I understand you play things

1093
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,559
more day by day. I totally get that, But do

1094
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:55,440
you see any kind of scenario where at the end

1095
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,920
you could be like, I'm good now.

1096
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it times sound like I mean forty years

1097
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:07,199
probably not. Hopefully I've made enough money to live off

1098
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,559
at that point. But maybe I'll make cameo appearances like

1099
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:15,199
you're in there. I mean, maybe I'll still run thing.

1100
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,400
It just depends, honestly, if these sites are still active,

1101
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,679
then I would I would keep my sides running. Probably.

1102
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:21,480
I don't think i'd ever like ite rid of those.

1103
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,079
But like when it comes to like making okay, when

1104
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,519
I comes working at the level that I've been working at,

1105
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,559
I changed you that forever because I'm already starting to

1106
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:32,119
for now, I'm already like I'm already taking less scene.

1107
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:33,920
That's what I was saying. I'm already taking less scenes

1108
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:35,800
like which has been better?

1109
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,199
Speaker 1: That's and that's great. That's what the experience does. It

1110
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,000
lets you be a little bit more selective on things, right,

1111
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,239
Because I totally got what you were saying before about Hey,

1112
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,800
you know, I was taking as much stuff blah blah

1113
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,320
blah as you could. Totally fine, but at some point,

1114
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,079
you're right, you're gonna just you're gonna be on planes

1115
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,440
all week long, sitting on a frozen bag of peas

1116
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,079
just to keep yourself sane.

1117
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, and then my my vagiant I needs

1118
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,760
a little rest sometimes. I was like speaking of a

1119
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,800
bag of peace. But yeah, yeah, I mean so like

1120
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,800
I definitely want to do this for as long as possible,

1121
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,000
like too, but like not like not like film as

1122
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,320
much all the time, but like also like right now,

1123
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,880
I took a little break, so now I'm like ready

1124
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,559
to get back in again, like the filming. I have

1125
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:24,679
like four proteins coming up on starting Monday, so that's cool.

1126
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
But yeah, like I feel like holloway Okay, So I

1127
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,760
think to like the next like maybe ten to fifteen years,

1128
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
I think I'll still look hot, Like I feel like

1129
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,800
I'll still look good. I don't know, I don't know.

1130
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,079
I hope we look at forever. But I'll always get

1131
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:39,079
worked onne but I feel like I can go pretty strong.

1132
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,719
So the next like time of fishing ears.

1133
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: For sure, Ladies and gentlemen at bad Bella exo, you

1134
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:46,719
know where to find her. Bella, thank you so much

1135
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,679
for coming on with me tonight.

1136
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.