Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to another edition of The Cajun
Speaker 1: Knight Live. I am your host, Jacob move the Cajun Knights.
Speaker 1: Before we started recording, we were kind of going off
Speaker 1: on some tangents, as we do all the members of
Speaker 1: the retinue. We kind of have our little five to
Speaker 1: ten minute chit chat before we get going, and then
Speaker 1: after we wrap up we usually have a few minutes
Speaker 1: as well, and this one kind of went a little longer. Hell,
Speaker 1: we're at twenty some odd minutes of chit chat, and
Speaker 1: of course, because we have our resident Jewish correspondent in
Speaker 1: the mix, we were talking about certain laws and things
Speaker 1: about Judaism and yes, yes, for all the people listening,
Speaker 1: I know, Jews vampires evil. Ah, the bad guys say
Speaker 1: which one say which one? Okay, I respectfully disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Jewish people are inherently evil
Speaker 1: or off doing some foul shit. Now we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about Moosad in the Israeli government. Okay, we can
Speaker 1: have that talk. But I see this as the same
Speaker 1: way of saying that, oh, well, you know, all those
Speaker 1: Catholics they led these crusades, are on that evil shit
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, but you're not talking about the
Speaker 1: whole of Italy if you're talking about the Vatican, right,
Speaker 1: there's a difference here. I feel the same way as
Speaker 1: far as it is a concern. But did a little
Speaker 1: bit of a deep dive today accidentally into the Talmud.
Speaker 1: And this is not going to be the entire point
Speaker 1: of the conversation this evening, but I do not mind
Speaker 1: having this open form discussion to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: So from what I can tell and Royce verify if
Speaker 1: I am accurate here, So right to the measure, you're
Speaker 1: not a scholar, you're not a rabbi, you're not an
Speaker 1: expert in this field. However, I feel like you'd be
Speaker 1: able to speak a little more authority on this one
Speaker 1: than most. And I think you may have even broken
Speaker 1: this down from me before, but I don't think I
Speaker 1: really grasped it until today. So we got your torah right,
Speaker 1: first five books of the Bible and the Koran and
Speaker 1: all the things. This is what Moses wrote down. We
Speaker 1: can all agree, divinely inspired word from God, all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Then we get into the thick of it with some
Speaker 1: of the other books that were added weren't added in
Speaker 1: the In the Christian faith, they called this Old Testament
Speaker 1: all the stuff, all right, cool cut to when the
Speaker 1: Talmud was written, as far as the Jewish faith goes.
Speaker 1: So we got the Babylonian Talmud and then we got
Speaker 1: the Gamar. Correct.
Speaker 3: So the Gamara is what's inside the Talo is broken
Speaker 3: down essentially into two hearts. You have what's called the
Speaker 3: mishnah and no, that's right, so, and then the secondary part,
Speaker 3: which is called the Gamara. So like imagine like a
Speaker 3: small paragraph of a shorthand to explain something, and then
Speaker 3: basically you have pages of part of the pages explaining
Speaker 3: what that small snippet means.
Speaker 1: Yes, now let's build upon that. And I messed up
Speaker 1: and said talmont and Gamara. Yeah, yeah, So we got
Speaker 1: the Mishna and the Gamar and the Jesus Christ Mishna
Speaker 1: and Gamara. Yes, yes, okay, Now here's the deal. For
Speaker 1: anybody of the Western world. We read things in a
Speaker 1: certain way. We read it top to bottom, left to right,
Speaker 1: and typically whenever there is like a subnote or an
Speaker 1: a dendum or a footnote or something like that, it's
Speaker 1: written maybe at the bottom of the page very rarely
Speaker 1: will it be in the margins. But that's a thing
Speaker 1: that we see sometimes if you look at the Talmud
Speaker 1: and the way that it's written, it would it doesn't
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to us in the way
Speaker 1: that we have been trained how to read. Now, once
Speaker 1: you hear that the very dead center of the page
Speaker 1: is the overarching point, and off to the side are
Speaker 1: like sometimes eight different conversations that exactly commentary's So what
Speaker 1: does this mean? So whenever they were compiling the Talmud
Speaker 1: over the years, you would have and I mean, I
Speaker 1: know the jokes right themselves here the Jews were lawyering
Speaker 1: on their rules, and this is essentially what the Talmud is.
Speaker 1: So you would have a page that is dedicated I'm
Speaker 1: throwing out an example. I don't even know if there's
Speaker 1: a real page dedicated to anything, but let's say you
Speaker 1: have a page dedicated to the way, you know what,
Speaker 1: why not the way you tie your shoes?
Speaker 3: Checks the shot? Check the shot. I have a picture
Speaker 3: of a page of Gamara.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, yes, okay. The very center paragraph on
Speaker 1: that page is the paragraph like that's the point. All
Speaker 1: of the shit around that is different schools of thought
Speaker 1: and commentary exactly from different educated sources that were debating
Speaker 1: on this at the time. So that's essentially what this is. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, when the Talmud says something about Jesus boiling
Speaker 1: in Hell in a you know, bucket of his own
Speaker 1: excrement in calm or whatever, that is not the middle
Speaker 1: of the page. That is a side tangent off of
Speaker 1: the center of the page. The center of the page
Speaker 1: was about if Jesus was or was not blasphemous, a heretic,
Speaker 1: all of these things. That was the point. And yes,
Speaker 1: for the record, the Jewish beliefs are that Jesus was
Speaker 1: a heretic. Fine, cool, cool, But all of the wild
Speaker 1: shit that they say about Jesus is more like the
Speaker 1: side commentary that was a part of the discussion that day.
Speaker 1: Let me put it like this, So let's say that
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is writing a new law could be
Speaker 1: about anything, could be that vapes, vapes are They're they're
Speaker 1: debating if vapes are gonna be internationally legal or illegal. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: or weed that'd be a better one for this example.
Speaker 1: They're they're the Supreme Court Washington, d c. Is voting
Speaker 1: on the legalities surrounding marijuana for recreational use. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: That would be the dead center of the page. All
Speaker 1: of the other shit around that page would be talking
Speaker 1: about the medical benefits, the gateway drug conversation, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: marijuana for Whether or not these are real things or not,
Speaker 1: they were discussed that day as they were writing down
Speaker 1: this law, so they were added to the page. The
Speaker 1: reason why the Jews did this was so that the
Speaker 1: entirety of the context of what and how they got
Speaker 1: to the decision that they came to on this could
Speaker 1: be fully endorsed and understood by the person who was
Speaker 1: reading it. So the Jews as a faith as a
Speaker 1: whole do not believe that Jesus is boiling in his
Speaker 1: own excrement in hell. That is a thought that was
Speaker 1: brought up by a guy the day that they were
Speaker 1: writing that down. And there is a whole list of
Speaker 1: things in the Talmud that are talking about, some very
Speaker 1: off color and pretty wild things as far as like slavery,
Speaker 1: the Goyam conversation, all of the wild shit that people
Speaker 1: are misquoting from the Talmud as a way to justify
Speaker 1: their hatred of the Jews. So I did a little
Speaker 1: deep diving today. This goes back dude named Nicholas Donan.
Speaker 1: This was an inquisition that happened in France. So your boy,
Speaker 1: Nicholas Donator. First of all, before you even get to
Speaker 1: that royce, am I about accurate with what I have
Speaker 1: gathered from what the talent it is?
Speaker 3: Yes, The only the only thing that I would add
Speaker 3: is that the gabbara took a long time to compile,
Speaker 3: So it basically it's the Mitcha first started off shortly
Speaker 3: after this destruction of the Second Temple, and then there
Speaker 3: are various commentators were at different centuries, at different points
Speaker 3: in time, so it wasn't always it didn't happen all
Speaker 3: at one time. There was one set of commentary and
Speaker 3: then and then you had various levels of You have
Speaker 3: people who were called the mrima and the to nine,
Speaker 3: you had the the people who who were the teachers,
Speaker 3: and then those who repeated it over and even as
Speaker 3: far as traditional wise, there are some rabbis that cannot
Speaker 3: be argued on. So I basically what we believe is
Speaker 3: that the gomard of the town in and of itself
Speaker 3: can't be argued on as far as like some of
Speaker 3: the rules, we can't go we can't go against. And
Speaker 3: then even inside of the town mode itself, you had
Speaker 3: various rabbis who would argue or make various points, and
Speaker 3: even depending on who that rabbi was and what time
Speaker 3: period was, he might not have been able to argue
Speaker 3: and or go against the person must say from the
Speaker 3: previous generation, because essentially believe that the first generations were
Speaker 3: the holiest, and then ever since then it's just kind
Speaker 3: of been decreasing in level of holiness. So whenever you
Speaker 3: have a higher level, you're not allowed to argue with
Speaker 3: that higher level. But besides that, yes, I would say,
Speaker 3: I would say, for the most part, you got it right.
Speaker 1: All right. And so with that being said, there are
Speaker 1: certain things that are in the Talmud and certain turns
Speaker 1: of phrases, and like you said, it took years to compile,
Speaker 1: so it's a combination of Aramaic and Hebrew, and so
Speaker 1: some of these turns of phrases, if you will, don't
Speaker 1: exactly transfer well to medieval French. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: grasp that concept, right, because the way that France had
Speaker 1: done things at this time was it is decreed this way,
Speaker 1: this is the way it is, so says the King Boom.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no conjecture, there's no sidebar commentary, there's
Speaker 1: no list of the context as to the why homeboys
Speaker 1: said this. Hear ye, hear ye, It's fucking done right.
Speaker 1: So cut two twelve hundred's in France, this dude named
Speaker 1: Nicholas Donan, who was a Jewish dude from the law
Speaker 1: Rochelle region in France. Think God got that right. And
Speaker 1: long story short, we don't know why he was excommunicated.
Speaker 1: I have I tried doing some digging into this, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some sources that will claim some
Speaker 1: very heinous shit all the way through to some very
Speaker 1: petty political shit. I your guess is as good as mine.
Speaker 1: History doesn't really have a solid answer on this one.
Speaker 1: But your boy got excommunicated from the Jewish faith. He
Speaker 1: can't and when that happens, you can't be buried with
Speaker 1: your family. You don't get to celebrating the holidays and
Speaker 1: the feasts like you're out full out. So he felt
Speaker 1: some type of way about this. Whatever was the build
Speaker 1: up for him getting excommunicated was so egregious that he
Speaker 1: decided to go on a crusade. He immediately joins the
Speaker 1: Christian Faith, the Catholic Faith, because I mean, obviously it's
Speaker 1: France in the Middle Ages, clearly Catholic. He then joins
Speaker 1: the Franciscan Order of Monks, and he gets in touch
Speaker 1: with the king, who was King Philip the I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: King Louis the Knife, excuse me, So King Louis the Ninth,
Speaker 1: and he gets in touch with the Pope and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to kick out all of the Jews from France.
Speaker 1: We need to make the talmut illegal as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, like this is we gotta do something about
Speaker 1: these these fucking Jews running the streets. He was literally
Speaker 1: Jewish by blood. He's talking about his own people. But
Speaker 1: whatever was done was so egregious. He pretty much said,
Speaker 1: fucked a lot of them, including his own bloodline. So
Speaker 1: he knew the Talmud. He was a very he was
Speaker 1: a scholar in that regard, and apparently he knew it
Speaker 1: forward and backward, and for five years he compiled a
Speaker 1: list of things. It was somewhere between like thirty something,
Speaker 1: and he said he knew where the Talmud could look
Speaker 1: weak if it was formatted in a certain way. So
Speaker 1: he calls for an inquisition, and you got the archbishop
Speaker 1: of that region of France. You have a represent a
Speaker 1: representative from the Vatican that shows up, you have the king,
Speaker 1: You have all these things. And they call in four
Speaker 1: Jewish scholars, and I forget the names. One of them
Speaker 1: I remember was Judah ben Solomon, that though, and he
Speaker 1: was a They all four, for the record, were scholars
Speaker 1: of the Jewish faith. They all own and operated their
Speaker 1: own shoolhouses, which is their their rabbinic schools and things.
Speaker 1: And they knew their shit. They knew their shit as
Speaker 1: far as tour, as far as the talmut, all the things.
Speaker 1: But but oh, wait on, I think, yeah you did.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Tony, just put it in here. So
Speaker 1: Yoeshelle of Paris, Moses of Councy, Judah of Maloon, and
Speaker 1: Samuel ben Solomon Bomb of the Chateau Theory. And when
Speaker 1: they were called, they genuinely thought, because you know, the Jews,
Speaker 1: they do in fact love a good debate. They do
Speaker 1: love a little rhetorical back and forth on some high
Speaker 1: brow commentation. That's their jam. So you got these four
Speaker 1: dudes that own schools, and they get called to the
Speaker 1: King's court specifically, and they don't get a lot of
Speaker 1: context as to why, and they're thinking like and they
Speaker 1: knew of each other. It's not like these four dudes
Speaker 1: are like super tight homies, but they knew of each other.
Speaker 1: They were very well respected scholars of the Jewish faith
Speaker 1: at this time in France. They were called to the
Speaker 1: court under no real pretenses as to why. They thought
Speaker 1: they were coming in to just have some sort of
Speaker 1: a philosophical debate as they have been called to do
Speaker 1: from you know, other people before. No big deal. They
Speaker 1: completely had their guard down. They walk in to the
Speaker 1: panel to end all panels as far as an inquisition goes,
Speaker 1: and at the very far end of the table was
Speaker 1: Nicholas Donan wearing his brown friars get up the whole nine.
Speaker 1: And he kind of led the charge in the line
Speaker 1: of questioning because he had already briefed all of the
Speaker 1: other people on the panel about what to ask and
Speaker 1: how to ask it. And even though, like, for instance,
Speaker 1: the Jesus boiling an excrement thing that was brought up,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult for a rabbi who was unarmed as
Speaker 1: far as is a concern, to justify why that was
Speaker 1: added to a book hundreds of years prior in a
Speaker 1: context to where these dudes on the panel. They were
Speaker 1: looking for any small thing to say that the talman
Speaker 1: needs to be outlawed in the country of France. That
Speaker 1: was it. They were looking for any smoking gun. And
Speaker 1: even if he was to try to explain, well, here
Speaker 1: is why that matters, Here was the metaphorical usage of that,
Speaker 1: Here was what that might have meant. Oh, the guy
Speaker 1: who said that in that panel that day was kind
Speaker 1: of an asshole, and that's even documented on this page
Speaker 1: in this other chapter. They gave them no option to
Speaker 1: give context or levity to anything that was asked of them,
Speaker 1: and so they basically got fucking hosed, and it was
Speaker 1: led by one of their own who turned on them,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Then the French king made it illegal
Speaker 1: to have the talmud in France, and he had talma's
Speaker 1: all gathered up and burned. And ya gotta keep in
Speaker 1: mind the printing press wasn't invented for a few hundred
Speaker 1: years till after this fact. We were talking about if
Speaker 1: we're gonna collect them all because some of these talmuds
Speaker 1: also had sidebar commentator from other rabbis who had added
Speaker 1: things into certain editions and all these things. So we're
Speaker 1: talking about a massive brain drain of Jewish and rabbitical
Speaker 1: literature from France at this time. This was later continued
Speaker 1: by his son King all Right, so this was Louis
Speaker 1: the Ninth. After him, if I'm not mistaken, was hold on, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. I got that wrong. So this was, yeah,
Speaker 1: Louis the Ninth, who became Saint Louis, right, he was
Speaker 1: canonized for his shit. After him was King Philip, and
Speaker 1: then after him was King Louis the Tenth. King Philip
Speaker 1: is also the dude who kicked out the Knights Templars,
Speaker 1: who also banished the Jews from France, only to have
Speaker 1: his son Louis the Tenth begged for the Jews to
Speaker 1: come back. But all of that for another day. This kickstarted,
Speaker 1: hands sama, say your hand hold on. This kickstarted the
Speaker 1: entire concept of the Europeans hating the Jews because of
Speaker 1: their blasphemous and evil books and their rituals and all
Speaker 1: these things and these stuffs. Okay, keep in mind, this
Speaker 1: same conversation was used later in Spain by essentially the
Speaker 1: same thing. It was a Jewish dude who was excommunicated
Speaker 1: and led the charge against his own people against Spanish Jews. These,
Speaker 1: all of these conversations and these inquisitions were later used
Speaker 1: by Martin Luther, who, if y'all know who Martin Luther is,
Speaker 1: was the first dude that nailed the Ethos to the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church doors, and he had issues with certain things
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church was doing. But later on he wrote
Speaker 1: a book called The Truth on Jews, and he and
Speaker 1: his group led a movement that slaughtered I think the
Speaker 1: lowest estimends I saw were like ninety thousand Jews from
Speaker 1: his section of Germany at that time. And all he
Speaker 1: did was reiterate and re quote the conversations that were
Speaker 1: had in the French and the Spanish Inquisitions, which again
Speaker 1: were very dubious to begin with. As far as the
Speaker 1: pretext for that, all of these things were later used
Speaker 1: by the Nazi party. So as far as the European
Speaker 1: conversation of why they have such a long standing issue
Speaker 1: with Jewish people, it doesn't have to do with the
Speaker 1: banking system, because again even after the Inquisition, after Louis
Speaker 1: the ninth and Philip kicked them out, Louis the tenth
Speaker 1: begged them to come back and run banks and shit,
Speaker 1: So it's not the whole Oh well, you know, they're
Speaker 1: just greedy and with the money and this and this.
Speaker 1: It was all done for very strange, dubious political reasons.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the over under as to why
Speaker 1: Europe feels the way they do about Jews. And now
Speaker 1: we see it coming back here today, although now it's
Speaker 1: not so much that. It's a little bit more of
Speaker 1: this country of Israel and their government administration and Moussad
Speaker 1: and Epstein and things like that. But yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: just accidentally went on that deep dive this morning because
Speaker 1: I was on my way to my accountant to do taxes.
Speaker 1: It was a weird YouTube video I found, but the
Speaker 1: more I looked into it, the more I found more
Speaker 1: context and more historical back into it. I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, then, all right, Sam, your hand's been raised
Speaker 1: for like the entirety of my rant. So Royce, I
Speaker 1: see your hand, hold your thoughts. Sam's had it up
Speaker 1: for like a solid tend years. Go ahead, brother, Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is couickt me if I'm wrong. Isn't this
Speaker 1: the same King Philip or Filippo?
Speaker 2: However, the fuck the funch pronounce it is the same
Speaker 2: one that did the King Phillips swore with the Indians
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no no.
Speaker 1: So King Phillip's war wasn't actually a king, nor was
Speaker 1: his name Philip. That was a Native American algonquin dude
Speaker 1: who they gave the nickname of King Philip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he he was mediatd to join the English
Speaker 2: and there's his people fucked him over and he puts you.
Speaker 2: He tried to use the English to overthrow his own
Speaker 2: tribe and everything, and he got killed for his troubles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was he might have been a chief,
Speaker 1: but the white people didn't understand what the di was
Speaker 1: between a chief and the king was. And then they
Speaker 1: give him the white name of Philip, but that wasn't
Speaker 1: actually his given name.
Speaker 2: Also, this is you said Louis the ninth, keeping mind
Speaker 2: five kings, five Louis down the line is when they
Speaker 2: actually torch uh the Grandmaster of the Knights Stampla was
Speaker 2: in front of Notre Dame, which abound down and everything,
Speaker 2: which also, if I'm not mistaking it, get rebuilt. And
Speaker 2: there was already a terrorist attack on the church again.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't even it wasn't even like way down
Speaker 1: the line, this was Louise's grandson that did that, or
Speaker 1: actually his son, if I'm not mistaken, because it was
Speaker 1: like thirteen oh nine. We're talking about this Talmud conversation
Speaker 1: happened in twelve forty two. That was King Louie the Knife.
Speaker 1: When the Templars were kicked out of France. We're talking
Speaker 1: like thirteen oh nine, give or take.
Speaker 2: So no, this was but the Templars were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they they were exiled and everything, but they were hunted,
Speaker 2: they were persecuted, they were burned at the stake for heresy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because uh Louis didn't want to pay back
Speaker 2: the tax, payback the money he owed. Because everybody says, oh,
Speaker 2: the Jews are the fucking bankers, no dog. The first
Speaker 2: international banking system was popped up by the Knight's Templar.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean they propped up a lot
Speaker 1: of Europe, to be completely honest with you, but yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was so that they what they did and
Speaker 2: they actually started up the Instead of you carrying thing
Speaker 2: or something, they gave you a seal that had as
Speaker 2: money credits on it. Then you take that to the
Speaker 2: when you made it to your destination in the Holy
Speaker 2: Land Jerusalem, you would done that in and you got
Speaker 2: your cash back. And the reason why is because throughout
Speaker 2: the reason why the Knights Samplous, the poor soldiers of
Speaker 2: Jesus the Christ started was so that it would be
Speaker 2: able to help Christians, and I believe the Jews safety
Speaker 2: make it to the Holy Land, so they wouldn't be
Speaker 2: attacked by the Islamic street thoughts to put in lack
Speaker 2: of nice words, because I don't know the actual terminology.
Speaker 1: No, no, you're right, So I had to do the math
Speaker 1: on this one because I was pretty sure of this.
Speaker 1: So Louis the Ninth's son, Philip the Fourth, is who
Speaker 1: did that to the Templars, and that started on October thirteenth,
Speaker 1: thirteen o seven. So the inquisition of the Jews and
Speaker 1: the burning of the Talmuds, that all happened in twelve
Speaker 1: forty two, So we're talking about the next generation. Not
Speaker 1: only did they burn all the Talmods, Philip the Fourth
Speaker 1: kicked out the Jews from France and then had his
Speaker 1: whole situation with the Templars, only to have his son
Speaker 1: Louis the tenth, they swapped names and went from Louis
Speaker 1: Phillip to Louis again. Louis the tenth begged the fucking
Speaker 1: uh the Jews to come back in, and then like
Speaker 1: I think it was the next pope or the one
Speaker 1: after completely exonerated the knights templars of any of their
Speaker 1: heretical things. But that paper never got published and didn't
Speaker 1: get found until years later.
Speaker 2: But all the things like they just found to like
Speaker 2: they just pardon the knights temples, like I want to say,
Speaker 2: two or three years ago. Yeah, which I'll get in
Speaker 2: the the cathlic Church pardoned somebody when they themselves are
Speaker 2: heretical of itselves.
Speaker 1: They they they.
Speaker 2: Worship angels, they pray to angels, and they pray to saints.
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: They believe that they are the one true Church, and
Speaker 1: they believe that the pope is the only one that
Speaker 1: gets direct line to the Most High. So, by their accounts,
Speaker 1: whenever the pope excommunicates an entire group and then a
Speaker 1: later pope exonerates them and grants them clemency, it's it's
Speaker 1: seen as more important.
Speaker 2: But Jesus says that you know that you don't need
Speaker 2: a media to you don't need a spook like somebody
Speaker 2: a spiritual leader to enact on you. You'll be half.
Speaker 1: But he also said that Peter was going to be
Speaker 1: the rock that he built his church upon, and they
Speaker 1: believe that was the first pope, and so that that's
Speaker 1: that's a whole other conversation. Moha. I do want to
Speaker 1: get Royce's take on the conversation as far as the Jews,
Speaker 1: europe Talmudic shit, what is your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Okay, So while we were talking, I've been looking things
Speaker 3: up and very easily enough, we've I've heard this before.
Speaker 3: I've never looked it up until tonight. So this was
Speaker 3: a learning experience, right, So you are correct and incorrect
Speaker 3: in some things.
Speaker 1: Help me out.
Speaker 4: So, first of all, apparently there so whenever the Gamara
Speaker 4: talks about Jesus, most of the time he's Yashu or
Speaker 4: something else right there.
Speaker 3: But that's it.
Speaker 1: But that is a one of the most common names
Speaker 1: ever at the time.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so I agree that it was
Speaker 3: that it was a name. I don't believe it was.
Speaker 3: So like, Okay.
Speaker 1: There's a list of the top ten for sure. The
Speaker 1: first century A d the most common Hebrew and Jewish names.
Speaker 1: Ye Sue was like number five. It was. It was
Speaker 1: very much like, yeah, I mean, but I mean.
Speaker 3: Whatever. So anyway, so the Gamarrow may or may not
Speaker 3: have been speaking about him. So there are certain scholars
Speaker 3: have said that they're talking about somebody else as a
Speaker 3: post So that's that's first and foremost.
Speaker 1: Second, which also towards that that is still a scholarly
Speaker 1: debate that happens still to this day because certain things
Speaker 1: they bring up Ye Sue that's clearly not talking about him,
Speaker 1: and then others where it it could be. Scholars still
Speaker 1: didn't that to this day. But yes, that was brought
Speaker 1: up during this inquisition and the dudes at the table
Speaker 1: pretty much weren't hearing it, but continue for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay. So also, interestingly enough, because it was deemed heretical,
Speaker 3: there were editions of the Gamara in which this was
Speaker 3: actually removed by sensors. Okay, this is never never getting
Speaker 3: the censor, all right. So this passage, if people want
Speaker 3: to look it up, I'll actually give a give a receipts.
Speaker 3: It is from the Tractate of Gitton g I T
Speaker 3: t I N. Fifty seven A in the Babylonian Talmlin This,
Speaker 3: so this story actually is within the Gamar itself and
Speaker 3: not a commentary. Okay, So basically this, the story this
Speaker 3: revolves around, is a gentleman named Unclos, the son of
Speaker 3: Colonamus He what so this person he converted Judaism and instaid.
Speaker 3: The Roman emperor sent soldiers after him to bring him back.
Speaker 3: He spoke to them using versus the torre, and they
Speaker 3: can and they meaning the soldiers converted. So the emperors
Speaker 3: and more soldiers and then he converted them anyway. So
Speaker 3: apparently this is.
Speaker 5: Very close Jewish of him.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I mean, so like they were going to
Speaker 3: take him away to bring him to Caesar.
Speaker 6: So he said, let me tell you about Judaism, and
Speaker 6: they converted that way.
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like he was trying to prosestize. He
Speaker 3: was just telling you about his religion in there and
Speaker 3: et cetera. Here's the part that's very interesting. So it
Speaker 3: says that Unclos used necromancy to question figures about the afterlife.
Speaker 3: So he questions Titus, he questioned uh the evil villum,
Speaker 3: and then it says Unclos questions Yashu. That says, so
Speaker 3: then uncles raised, Jesus matters or or Yashu He's and
Speaker 3: who is important in the next world? The answer answer
Speaker 3: uncles asked, should someone attach attach himself to them? He replied,
Speaker 3: see through welfare, do not harm them. Whoever touches them
Speaker 3: is like touching the people of his eye. Uncles asks
Speaker 3: what is it? What is your punishment? The answer boilingt excrement. Now,
Speaker 3: I did look up to see if there were any
Speaker 3: commentators that said anything about it, and so Rashi, who
Speaker 3: is named Rabbi Shlomo or Solomon Ben it's Saki there
Speaker 3: you go, So I uh.
Speaker 1: Whatever, anyway, it's right.
Speaker 3: So apparently he does comment on this page. And then
Speaker 3: but basically, like any kind of commentator commentator, especially with Rashi,
Speaker 3: he's very his gives very short stumps, but he just
Speaker 3: has a wealth of knowledge. So the Gamara asks, so
Speaker 3: what does b mean me doon or like, what what
Speaker 3: is his punishment? And then he says in Hebrew bits
Speaker 3: I guess so a boiling extra men. And then the
Speaker 3: Rashi's commentary itself it says in boiling like what does
Speaker 3: that mean? Measure for measure? Because he mocks the words
Speaker 3: of the stages and that's literally all Rashi says. So
Speaker 3: the commentators don't really go into this whole excuse me
Speaker 3: tirade about it. But this was a very I mean
Speaker 3: browthly speaking, and a very very small story. So it
Speaker 3: was in there. It was actually in the text itself
Speaker 3: and not a part of the outward commentator and commentaries,
Speaker 3: although there was a little bit of commentary to explain
Speaker 3: what does some of these things mean?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, you were.
Speaker 3: You were, You're accurate, and I would and I corrected
Speaker 3: it the other fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: There we go. So yeah, and this is apparently where
Speaker 1: the Jewish hatred in Europe really stemmed from and started.
Speaker 1: Now as far as you know, just racism in and
Speaker 1: of itself, that that's been around since the beginning of time.
Speaker 1: And I mean that there's a whole list of reasons
Speaker 1: for that, and there's nuances all the same conversation we
Speaker 1: had about the Cagot in France, there was, from all
Speaker 1: accounts that I can sell, no reason why the people
Speaker 1: of France hated the cago in the way that they did.
Speaker 1: They just fucking did. And they the moms even saying
Speaker 1: nursery rhymes to their kids about this group about how
Speaker 1: they got like claws and shit, and you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're subhuman and all this. They looked French, they spoke French,
Speaker 1: they went to Catholic mass. They weren't of a different anything.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of one of those things just
Speaker 1: because So, I mean, racism has always been around in
Speaker 1: that regard. So is if you know, if a group
Speaker 1: has issue you with Jewish people for just overtly racist reasons,
Speaker 1: then I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: But as far as the systemic issue, and that's been
Speaker 1: brought up so many times, you know, I mean the
Speaker 1: country the Jew's been kicked out of, you know why
Speaker 1: because of this? From what I could tell, it's because
Speaker 1: of this, you know. And I mean we're going back
Speaker 1: to like the Jewish uprisings against the Roman Empire. That's
Speaker 1: a different conversation militaristic things as to the uprisings and
Speaker 1: being banished from land for that purpose. Okay, but that
Speaker 1: was the conversation that led to the conversation that led
Speaker 1: to the conversation that led to the Nazis using all
Speaker 1: of these talking points as the justification for a lot
Speaker 1: of their things. So interesting things we learn in our
Speaker 1: uh in our mornings, you know. And I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope I uh shared some of this with you all
Speaker 1: to day, and I think I think we're all better
Speaker 1: for the experience. I don't know. Tony also added in
Speaker 1: on the comments here there was another Philip after whom
Speaker 1: the phil Panes were named after in the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: Apps fucking Loly. And now Louisiana is named after one
Speaker 1: of the king Louise. So yeah, one hundred percent. Louis
Speaker 1: the ninth went on crusades, Yes he did. He was
Speaker 1: captured and ransom for a huge sum of money. Saint
Speaker 1: Louis is named after him, yeah, and that he was
Speaker 1: canonized for his crusadingness and all these things. But it's
Speaker 1: all the things, man wile. And this is also why
Speaker 1: it kills me when people say that, like Antony, if
Speaker 1: I'm not a second You even came on our show
Speaker 1: to talk about how the Middle Ages never happened, And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you actually believe that or not,
Speaker 1: but I remember you brought up the talking points. It
Speaker 1: was a very fascinating conversation. This is why I kind
Speaker 1: of can't agree with it, because there is so much
Speaker 1: documented history century to century to century to century, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, they just condensed it. It's like you
Speaker 1: can't condense ninety years of a dude's life and make
Speaker 1: it like, well, he served as king, then this dude
Speaker 1: served as king. This dude served as kings. That was grandfather, father,
Speaker 1: and son. But I was like in fifteen years, it's like.
Speaker 5: Ah, okay, well let me refresh everyone's memory. The name
Speaker 5: of the episode we did was the Dark Ages never happened.
Speaker 5: That's right, Middle Ages, excuse men, it went. We were
Speaker 5: talking about the years zero to nine hundred pretty much,
Speaker 5: so Roman Republic, Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, and early Middle
Speaker 5: Ages under Charlemagne may have actually been contemporaneous with each other.
Speaker 5: That's Kunnar Heinsun's hypothesis. It's a little similar to that
Speaker 5: of a guy named Anatotly Fomyenko who's from from from
Speaker 5: one of the disputed regions of Ukraine. Coincidentally, but he
Speaker 5: came up with a theory kind of similar, and he
Speaker 5: extended the time period. He basically thought everything before about
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred was bullshit. So under Fomenko's new revised knowlogy,
Speaker 5: he would probably say Louis the ninth never happened, but
Speaker 5: good on oar. Heinssen thinks everything back to the grandchildren
Speaker 5: of Charlemagne probably really did happen.
Speaker 1: And I mean, especially when we're talking like Charlemagne, right
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of legend and a lot of
Speaker 1: lore and certain things that can't fully accurately be historically,
Speaker 1: you know, sound proof, But I mean there's enough, there's
Speaker 1: enough to say that, Yeah, Charlemagne absolutely did run. He
Speaker 1: was the beginning of the Holy Roman Empire in that
Speaker 1: region and all this stuff, and it just I can't
Speaker 1: get down with it. I hear the argument, and it's
Speaker 1: a fascinating one to dive in, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: a I put it to the same realm as like
Speaker 1: the matrix theory to say that we're living in a
Speaker 1: computer simulation. I personally don't agree with it, but like
Speaker 1: I could respect it and see the trail of thought,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And Heinsten also believes stratigraphic evidence of sedimentary layers
Speaker 5: in European archaeological digs supports a hypothesis. He believes there's
Speaker 5: numismatic evidence in terms of coins found here and there,
Speaker 5: like a bunch of first century Roman coins found that
Speaker 5: one of Charlemagne's properties, and you know, why would Charlemagne
Speaker 5: have these coins that were not re minted sometime in
Speaker 5: the intervening centuries. I tried to confirm that with my
Speaker 5: own personal research, and I had a hard time. But
Speaker 5: he's got a lot of I haven't read up on
Speaker 5: it in a while, but I was intrigued by it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: look up Gunnar Heinzeen. I have a few additional thoughts
Speaker 5: on this whole not really Talmlid thing, but what happened
Speaker 5: to the Jewish people after the conquest of the Second Temple.
Speaker 5: They seem to have been dispersed, and they seem to
Speaker 5: have gotten into tax collecting in a lot of places.
Speaker 5: That's another reason that became unpopular in Spain and Persia.
Speaker 5: When the Muslims invaded, they actually were relatively allied with
Speaker 5: the Jews at that time. They also fought the Jews
Speaker 5: at other times. It's really hard to say whether they
Speaker 5: were completely friend or enemy, but they were friendly at
Speaker 5: large chunk of the time, and that's how Jews got
Speaker 5: into Iran, and that's how Jews got into Spain around
Speaker 5: the year seven hundred. If we're to believe first millennium chronology.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 5: And then also yeah, when.
Speaker 1: The that that even furthered the whole, because I mean,
Speaker 1: the Moors weren't exactly too fond of the Jews, You're
Speaker 1: right about as far as like the Middle Ages and
Speaker 1: the caliphates and all that they were, you know, depending
Speaker 1: on which due was in charge of which region of
Speaker 1: the world, some of them were cool with the Jews.
Speaker 1: Some of them weren't. The Moors however they were, they
Speaker 1: were some bastards from what I could read.
Speaker 5: Well, they brought the Jews into Spain. So that's that's
Speaker 5: how Jews people got into Spain, and they participated in
Speaker 5: the tax collection. They held prominent positions, especially in a
Speaker 5: place called Toledo. There's this story of I guess they
Speaker 5: might have even been in Toledo before the Muslims got there.
Speaker 5: And there's this great meme out there, this story that
Speaker 5: keeps being retold. I don't know if it's true about
Speaker 5: how Jewish people in Toledo opened the gates for Muslims
Speaker 5: to come in at one point. It's just a story.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's true or not. And then
Speaker 5: I guess Jews were really a minority in Western Europe,
Speaker 5: but at some point they became a sizable chunk of
Speaker 5: the population of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. And I think
Speaker 5: eighty percent of the world's Jews lived in the Polish
Speaker 5: Lithuanian Commonwealth between about sixteen hundred and maybe you know,
Speaker 5: nineteen thirty eighteen hundreds. Yeah, yeah, geographically when Poland went away,
Speaker 5: but you know, the people were still there. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess you know, they're twenty percent we're in Western Europe,
Speaker 5: in the Middle East and everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really fascinating to dig into history. That's
Speaker 1: why I love it so much, honestly. But it's uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about that. Royce and I have
Speaker 1: talked about like why the Europeans and why the modern
Speaker 1: zeitgeist is like reiterating a lot of Hitler's talking points.
Speaker 1: Why is it like cool to hate the Jews again.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that we are currently operating off of
Speaker 1: the same ethos that these inquisitions we're talking about. However,
Speaker 1: it's like you could still kind of hear that in
Speaker 1: the background almost, although it's more these days as far
Speaker 1: as the nation of Israel. Right, it's more about Net
Speaker 1: and Yahoo, It's more about Musad and like fine people
Speaker 1: can have for like the modern current geopolitical situation. People
Speaker 1: can have their own opinions about whatever. Right. I mean,
Speaker 1: how Tony, you and I have gone back and forth
Speaker 1: how many times about Ukraine versus Russia and the Ayah
Speaker 1: Toola versus the West. I mean, people can have their
Speaker 1: own opinions based off of the current situations. And that's
Speaker 1: a different conversation. But it's almost like, especially in the
Speaker 1: content creation world, a lot of people are they're digging
Speaker 1: up old shit to justify the new shit. And I
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's very fair or accurate. When we're
Speaker 1: comparing the inquisition of the Jews in the twelve n
Speaker 1: to bb Net and Yahoo being a bastard, I personally
Speaker 1: feel like that's a little intellectually dishonest.
Speaker 5: Well, also, I'm amazed at how quickly it's become socially acceptable,
Speaker 5: because I think that you would have gotten banned for
Speaker 5: a lot of the language it's used today ten years ago,
Speaker 5: banded off Facebook, band off Twitter, even for criticism of
Speaker 5: the state of Israel and not of the Jewish religion.
Speaker 2: Or or Jewish.
Speaker 5: Genetics or anything like that. But is how popular it's gotten,
Speaker 5: and some of it's bullshit and some of it's real,
Speaker 5: and we gotta know what the difference is.
Speaker 3: I'm not a.
Speaker 5: Racial determinist, and I think people should be allowed to
Speaker 5: believe whatever ideology or religion they want to believe in
Speaker 5: as long as they do right by other people. That's
Speaker 5: whatever that means. We can disagree what that means, but
Speaker 5: I think most people know what that means. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: means not taking advantage of other people, legally or illegally,
Speaker 5: not killing people and stealing their I think Israel should
Speaker 5: recognize some permanent borders, and many many people feel bad.
Speaker 5: I mean many people on my side of things, you know,
Speaker 5: the more israel critical side, think Israel should give back
Speaker 5: a lot of its land. I don't see that ever happening,
Speaker 5: but I think they should establish some permanent borders with
Speaker 5: what's left of Palestine and Syria and Lebanon and stick
Speaker 5: to what they've already got, and then the world would
Speaker 5: be a much more peaceful place after that.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. And also it's to your
Speaker 1: point also about like, yeah, this was the lot of
Speaker 1: the talking points that people are making these days would
Speaker 1: have gotten them canceled if not like some sort of
Speaker 1: legal ramifications ten years ago. And it's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I thought, the Jews run the media. How is this
Speaker 1: all allowed to be out there? It's like because they don't.
Speaker 1: At one time they did. I'll see to that for sure.
Speaker 1: But there has been there's been a drastic shift in
Speaker 1: the last ten years. As far as who's really controlling
Speaker 1: what I tried having that conversation with John nothing on
Speaker 1: the colt. As far as uh, like, you know, Israel's
Speaker 1: one running the American government. At one point in time,
Speaker 1: I would have said one hundred percent, no doubts about that.
Speaker 1: There's a puppet master, and it's puppet one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: These days, it's not so much like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we're not bombing Iran because of their things Israel and
Speaker 1: shit too, but that's because of like treaties and ties
Speaker 1: and things, right, That's not It's not like NETANYAHUO told Trump, hey, bitch,
Speaker 1: I need you to start bombing Iran. I don't think
Speaker 1: that conversation happened. The situation with Iraq and Saddam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that probably happened I think I think it
Speaker 1: actually might have been Netanyahu, in charge of Israel at
Speaker 1: that time, probably picked up the phone and called old
Speaker 1: George w and said, hey, bitch, I need to invade
Speaker 1: Iraq while you're over there in Afghanistan too. And he
Speaker 1: was like, yes, Sir, I could see that being a thing.
Speaker 1: But there's been a pretty drastic shift.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see that differently. I don't think it was NETANYAHUO.
Speaker 5: He pushed for it. He said, I guarantee you if
Speaker 5: you overthrow some them husaining, it will have immense positive
Speaker 5: reverberations throughout the Middle East. But that wasn't the main reason.
Speaker 5: That was only maybe five percent of it. I think
Speaker 5: the main reason was a cabal of like ten guys
Speaker 5: Douglas Fight, Paul wolf of Witz, David Worms, or the
Speaker 5: Office of Special Plans who created a lot of the
Speaker 5: alleged evidence for Saddam's nuclear program, like a forged document
Speaker 5: from Niger and an alleged meeting in Prague between al
Speaker 5: Qaeda and Saddam's intelligence service that never happened, right, and
Speaker 5: anthrax thing. They made up a bunch of stuff and
Speaker 5: they threw it all against the wall so fast, just
Speaker 5: to see how much of it would stick, and enough
Speaker 5: of it stuck that within about a year and a half,
Speaker 5: the war with their rack, which probably couldn't have happened otherwise,
Speaker 5: was pushed through.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's all I got to say about that.
Speaker 5: I see something once.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, dough And, and I don't believe that,
Speaker 1: Yah who picked up the phone and made that call.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I could I could envision a war where
Speaker 1: something close to that took place. For the record, I
Speaker 1: do agree with you as to the real reasons why
Speaker 1: I went t Iraq was to protect American interest in
Speaker 1: foreign oil. Obviously, you know, take out that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'd say that's five percent of it oil,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I'd say that's like five percent of it.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, business anyway.
Speaker 1: No no world stuff, but like they were trying to
Speaker 1: get Saddam out so that we not just America, the
Speaker 1: we as in the Royal we could have better access
Speaker 1: to the oil. You think that was five percent of Iraq?
Speaker 5: Okay? I think in terms of American oil companies, oil business,
Speaker 5: Haliburton and that stuff is maybe less than five percent
Speaker 5: of it. I think in terms of oil for Israel,
Speaker 5: I think that was more like forty fifty percent of it. Okay,
Speaker 5: have you ever heard a book called Israel Winner of
Speaker 5: the two thousand and three Iraq Oil War by a
Speaker 5: guy whose name I forget. Scott Horton keeps advertising it,
Speaker 5: but he was the author, was in I forget what
Speaker 5: government office. But he talked about constant Israeli pressure to
Speaker 5: rebuild and reactivate the Kurecook to Hypha pipeline, and they
Speaker 5: almost scuted up and running, but they didn't. And then
Speaker 5: they figured out another way to get the oil through
Speaker 5: Kurdistan in Iraq, I mean, through Kurdistan and Turkey and
Speaker 5: eventually on boats into Israel. I think that was their
Speaker 5: plan B that ended up working. So anyway, a war
Speaker 5: for oil for Israel is probably big part of the
Speaker 5: reason it was, But for Chevron and Exceon not really.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean when I said we, yeah, I'm thinking like
Speaker 1: base in European nations as well, Like we as Americans,
Speaker 1: we didn't import a whole lot of Iraqi oil, and
Speaker 1: we still don't now Kowaiti I mean maybe, but even
Speaker 1: still that's not like that's our main guy by any means.
Speaker 1: If anything, we Saudi Arabia's more of that conversation, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see us using our military might to hook
Speaker 1: up Israel. That's that's why I'm saying. As far as
Speaker 1: like possibly Net and Yahoo made that call or again
Speaker 1: I'm saying him, I don't know if he was the
Speaker 1: prime Minister in O three. I feel like he was,
Speaker 1: but I might be that wasn't he who he was?
Speaker 1: In the shit, it's been a minute, It's been a minute.
Speaker 5: Anyway, he was from like nineteen ninety eight to two
Speaker 5: thousand and three or four, I want to say, and
Speaker 5: then I think was Ariel Sharon and then and then
Speaker 5: then Yahoo again, I.
Speaker 1: Would say, I know Net and Yahoo was it in
Speaker 1: the nineties because he was talking to the guy that
Speaker 1: everybody thought was going to be the Messiah and he
Speaker 1: died and there was a whole faction of Jews that
Speaker 1: thought that he was going to arise from the dead
Speaker 1: and he didn't. But uh, I remember seeing the conversation
Speaker 1: between Net and Yahoo and him in like ninety three
Speaker 1: or something like that, So yeah, I knew it was
Speaker 1: at least at some point. But yeah, the conversation as
Speaker 1: far as American war on behalf of Israel or in
Speaker 1: Israel's interests, which benefited us to but more them for sure.
Speaker 1: But again in the last ten years specifically, I don't
Speaker 1: think Israel's calling a lot of the American shots anymore.
Speaker 1: I think it's like you're saying, like a cabal of people,
Speaker 1: and we could even have the convers station as far
Speaker 1: as a cabal of countries leaders and now I mean
Speaker 1: elected officials, I mean like the actual movers and shakers
Speaker 1: of different countries. But yeah, I feel like America has
Speaker 1: shifted way more in an Arabic way than into a
Speaker 1: Jewish way, which is also a portion of why I
Speaker 1: think that so many people are allowed to say what
Speaker 1: they are saying about Israel and about the Jews online
Speaker 1: with absolute impunity. I could be so wrong on this,
Speaker 1: and it might just be my conspiratorial mind going off,
Speaker 1: but that seems to be the writing on the wall
Speaker 1: that I'm reading.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the anti Jewish stuff used to be confined to
Speaker 5: four Chan. Yeah it's everywhere, and that does surprise me.
Speaker 5: Like I said earlier, but I still think Israeli interests
Speaker 5: have a lot to do with our foreign policy. Even
Speaker 5: from about two thousand and seven to twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: let's say, the constant the Caesar sanctions on Syria, the
Speaker 5: US base in Al Tampa, and Syria trying to overthrow Syria,
Speaker 5: overthrowing Libya. I'd say Kaddafi, even though he was far
Speaker 5: away from Israel, he was a pretty effective critic of
Speaker 5: them in a lot of ways, and he was definitely
Speaker 5: a thorn in their side, surprisingly, and they wanted to
Speaker 5: get rid of him. So I think that was also
Speaker 5: done on behalf of Israel, more so than on behalf
Speaker 5: of France or the US or anyone else.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, Sorry, Well we're getting off into the
Speaker 1: weeds on this one here, but I do love these conversations. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's very few people I can.
Speaker 3: Say.
Speaker 1: I'm going ahead, brother.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we were we were talking about we
Speaker 2: were talking about the Catholics and everything earlier, and I
Speaker 2: actually learned I learned a about a Catholic police who
Speaker 2: was not he was venerated, but he is a cephalophon,
Speaker 2: which means a martyr who care is depicted, priest depicted.
Speaker 2: That's carrying your own head because now he is Saint
Speaker 2: San Denise or San Denis.
Speaker 1: His head spoke, dude.
Speaker 2: He continued to preach beheaded. He picked up his head
Speaker 2: after it was cut off. So the legend goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he fought another six miles preaching the ward. You
Speaker 2: want to know what's funny, you, So the funny thing
Speaker 2: is how I learned about this, this legend that this
Speaker 2: uh Catholic priest is actually through the game Red Dead
Speaker 2: Redemption two, one of the best games ever made. Yes,
Speaker 2: So in the game you're in that you're in a
Speaker 2: city called Sandy, which is their version of New Orleans,
Speaker 2: and there is a a a art mosaic that's depicting
Speaker 2: that the depicting Saint Denis, which they named the city
Speaker 2: after him, of him holding his head. Uh. Spoiler alerts
Speaker 2: for people who haven't played a six year old game yet.
Speaker 2: One of the gang members that you play that you
Speaker 2: that in your gang in the game, his death is
Speaker 2: depicted as him coming up because he goes missing, he
Speaker 2: gets kidnapped, he comes back, he he enters where y'are
Speaker 2: hiding out at in in Louisiana. The in the game,
Speaker 2: you're in the bayou. He comes out. He is on
Speaker 2: his horseback holding his head in his hands on the
Speaker 2: horse and uh, that's when the your gang is alerted
Speaker 2: and then your ambushed. But that the reason why all
Speaker 2: that happened. I looked into why did they do it
Speaker 2: like that? Because it's one of my favorite games. I
Speaker 2: have over fourteen hundred hours just in the story mode.
Speaker 2: That caught me in. Then I even uh when I
Speaker 2: visited all the churches into in the entire game. They
Speaker 2: even have a miniature church down out in the Bayou
Speaker 2: which I hogtag hog tied nos Fartu the vampire in
Speaker 2: the in the game, he's an Easter egg and I
Speaker 2: took him into and tossed him into the mini church.
Speaker 2: I was trying to see contact the faith. But Heaven's
Speaker 2: Gate in that game, no, like Heaven's Gate the Virtualistic Suicide.
Speaker 2: It's also in the game, but it's not in name.
Speaker 2: It's you find it out in the cabin in one
Speaker 2: of the park like mountains. You you come up, it's
Speaker 2: a dilapidated building. It's like a church, but there's a
Speaker 2: hole in the roof. And if you're there between twelve
Speaker 2: and one am in game, there's a UFO that flies over. Well,
Speaker 2: be like it shines down you see the lights and
Speaker 2: keep my listen. Is like eighteen eighteen, I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety nine in the game, which which is shortly
Speaker 2: after the award Texas in the hour timeline that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so Heaven's gates in the game too.
Speaker 1: That's pretty fucking wild. The first time I ever learned
Speaker 1: about your boiled demean was I was at Notre Dame
Speaker 1: in two thy eleven and I the church itself, which
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to see it before it fire.
Speaker 1: On the outside, there's like these big doors out front,
Speaker 1: and on the archways of the door is these carvings
Speaker 1: of all these very important figures, and there was a
Speaker 1: dude holding his own head, and I thought that was strange,
Speaker 1: didn't thinking. I was thinking, like, okay, so obviously this
Speaker 1: guy was beheaded, and they like put a statue of
Speaker 1: him there. He must have been a martyr, all these things.
Speaker 1: I kind of left it alone. Years later I realized
Speaker 1: what that was, and I was like, no shit. And
Speaker 1: then I went back and verified, yes, that's absolutely the
Speaker 1: dude in the archway of one of the doors at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and yeah, the story of how he and
Speaker 1: of course it is legend and I wasn't there and
Speaker 1: I can't verify it, and history is a lie. Agreed
Speaker 1: upon it? Fine, fine, cool. Allegedly there was enough eyewitnesses
Speaker 1: to this event to where that became a part of
Speaker 1: his cannon and a part of his canonization as far
Speaker 1: as that goes. So yeah, very fascinating that he beheaded.
Speaker 1: His body had though wherewithal with no brain to control it,
Speaker 1: to pick up the head, and the head continued to
Speaker 1: speak with no air moving through the lungs through the
Speaker 1: vocal I was gonna say, vocal cords, vocal folds to
Speaker 1: make sound come out. But somehow he was able to
Speaker 1: walk for six miles and preach until his body collapsed.
Speaker 1: It's fucking impressive, honestly. So wild things, man, Absolutely Okay,
Speaker 1: So now that we've had all of these, actually know what,
Speaker 1: let's see. I got more things in the comments. Let's
Speaker 1: see what's up. Muhammad comes from the tribe of Ishmael,
Speaker 1: commands that kill every Jew, and that is their holy mission.
Speaker 1: The point that they believe one day the trees and
Speaker 1: even the rocks will say bro. I have been seeing
Speaker 1: so many things about the Muslims come up here recently
Speaker 1: and there thank God, thank God or Allah or or yahweh.
Speaker 1: Think thank the guy, right, that's so, Marcel, think the
Speaker 1: think the good one up top that so many people
Speaker 1: are looking at the Quran critically and the hadiths critically
Speaker 1: and actually pointing out the fallacies to all of it,
Speaker 1: because like, for instance, the whole Mohammed thinking that he
Speaker 1: was being spoken to by a demon and his wife
Speaker 1: told him, no, that can't be. Then he goes to
Speaker 1: his wife's uncle who was a Christian and said, no,
Speaker 1: you can't be talking to a demon. And then he
Speaker 1: died and this demon kept saying, no, dude, I'm the
Speaker 1: angel Gabriel, I'm telling you, And like all these things,
Speaker 1: people are finally looking at that like, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that that was a demon.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Then the whole story about the forty gin that gang
Speaker 1: raped him all night long and all these things, people
Speaker 1: are looking at that story like, wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 1: Nobody I had heard about that, but apparently that's in there,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, we need to have this talk.
Speaker 1: The marrying of the six year old but waiting till
Speaker 1: she was nine to consummate allegedly. Thankfully, there's enough people
Speaker 1: digging into this and making content about it and debating
Speaker 1: these Muslim scholars about this shit to where it's like
Speaker 1: you know what, no, we really do need to have
Speaker 1: these conversations. And I'm not saying that all Muslims are,
Speaker 1: you know, suicide bombers waiting to happen here. I don't
Speaker 1: personally believe that, But I'm hoping that enough people, enough
Speaker 1: you know, reasonable thought provoking people will be able to
Speaker 1: look more critically at their own religious text and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's fucking crazy. Maybe I don't need
Speaker 1: to call myself this anymore, Maybe we can go to
Speaker 1: a different route. And I think that more and more
Speaker 1: that's happening, or at least possibly. I don't know. Islam
Speaker 1: is on the rise right now worldwide, but most of
Speaker 1: that's forced conversion from what I can tell, specifically in Africa.
Speaker 1: But then also Christianity is the fastest growing religion on
Speaker 1: Earth right now, primarily in the African continent. Although I
Speaker 1: am of the belief that within the next ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen years we are going to see a massive Christian
Speaker 1: revival of multiple denominations here in Southeast Asia. I'm of
Speaker 1: that belief as of this moment, just looking at the
Speaker 1: trend in the history that repeats itself and things like this,
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be their next play. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, though, Sam, I see your hand. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 2: Go deep down into about Not only do I study
Speaker 2: my religion, which is Christianity, I study Judaism, which you
Speaker 2: can add, which I talked to ways all the time.
Speaker 2: I also have been looking into Islam and everything because
Speaker 2: I believe to understand, to figure out why your enemy
Speaker 2: once you dead. And so they have a thing like
Speaker 2: how we have the apocalyptic text, the Book of Relations.
Speaker 2: So does the Islam. Islam. They believe doing that that
Speaker 2: the trees and the rocks and everything will come. They
Speaker 2: will come to life and everything and talk and say
Speaker 2: and point out, hey, there's a Jew behind me. Kill him,
Speaker 2: Kill him, old soldier of Allah. They believe this is
Speaker 2: their holy mission to wipe out the tribe of Israel
Speaker 2: and to usher the entire world under sharia lah. And
Speaker 2: they do that, and this is what they say.
Speaker 3: This is not mean.
Speaker 2: This is what they say to all right, So you
Speaker 2: can either convert, or you can die, or you can
Speaker 2: pay an outrageous fucking tax called the jizy attacks. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing they if you're not if they do
Speaker 2: not see they see non believers not as human, They
Speaker 2: see him less than the animals. They they they're right
Speaker 2: now is they're putting forth a tax in New York
Speaker 2: called a dog tax, because they in Islam, they believe
Speaker 2: it is that dogs are unclean to the point. In Turkey,
Speaker 2: they took they rounded up all the dogs in Turkey,
Speaker 2: took him to a island, then proceeded to kill them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing about this. I never knew if
Speaker 1: that was accurate or not. I heard a story about it.
Speaker 2: I didn't they even like the dogs that the dogs
Speaker 2: should were they some of them tried to run from
Speaker 2: the island, tried to swim that they shot the dogs,
Speaker 2: and funny enough, Chank Anger the from the Young Turks podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Young Turks. Uh, he got that name from a
Speaker 2: group who committed a genocide, the Armenian genocide. He also
Speaker 2: said if he were he was the benevolent dictator of
Speaker 2: the world, he would, uh, he would actually make it
Speaker 2: legal to commit bestiality.
Speaker 1: So I remember that. Yeah, he's he's kind of a
Speaker 1: raging piece of ship, and so is his uh, his nephew,
Speaker 1: Hassan Piker. Both the nephew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he says he's a communist to the butt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he went to China. He went to China, had a
Speaker 2: like on a livesting in China, had a on his phone.
Speaker 2: They caught a glimpse of his phone with what's the
Speaker 2: fucking dickhead chairman as a panda old panda bear dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just had him. I done up like
Speaker 2: Kung Fu panda. They had him. They actually came on
Speaker 2: stream like the police did it pretty quickly and on
Speaker 2: Hassan on Hassan's stream questioning him, and Hassan said, oh no,
Speaker 2: I didn't have it, and he lied. But it's just
Speaker 2: communism and everything is just it's fucking weird, and that
Speaker 2: they're running it Islam in communism and running hand in
Speaker 2: hand right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude who is a social media influencer claims
Speaker 1: that he's a communist and doesn't see right off the
Speaker 1: rip just with nothing else Doescris yet? Well, a shot collar.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you're from the South.
Speaker 1: You've never used a shot collar on one of your dogs?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't, personally I haven't.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, Well you must not have trained any hunting
Speaker 1: dogs in your life, because shot collars are the way,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I've done that. We actually don't
Speaker 1: believe in hunting with dogs. But it's not because of
Speaker 1: some sort of a moral aversion. It's because we like
Speaker 1: to keep our woods quiet when we hunt.
Speaker 2: My puppy dog is my best friend. I don't have
Speaker 2: a puppy dog no more, but I'll take my dog fishing.
Speaker 2: I won't take my dogs hunt if I'll do. I
Speaker 2: personally like deer and squirreling it hunting. I don't have
Speaker 2: no need for a dog in that aspect.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. A lot of people that
Speaker 1: use dogs for deer hunting or duck hunting or squirrel
Speaker 1: hunting for retrieving, they train them quail too, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, But yeah, it's I've seen people train their
Speaker 1: dogs this way before, and I mean, I'm not personally
Speaker 1: a fan of it, but it's also kind of the
Speaker 1: way it's done. You're not going to train a pit
Speaker 1: bull to be a boar hunting dog with love and affection.
Speaker 1: That's not that's how that goes. But it's also a
Speaker 1: difference between a pet and a working dog, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean every time I had a pit bull, I
Speaker 2: held my last dog I had, I would get every
Speaker 2: time I'd go out to like the driver and all
Speaker 2: I'd get a cheese bug and an ice cream coat.
Speaker 2: So I mean I spoil my dogies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I personally wouldn't do that also because
Speaker 1: I care about them getting like diabetes and shit.
Speaker 2: But like I feel you, okay, I mean it's a
Speaker 2: treat once a week.
Speaker 1: So nah, Typically i'd give my dog for like treats
Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing like a I did this like last week.
Speaker 1: I made a big crock pidle of white beans and
Speaker 1: I used like a hamhowck in there, and after I
Speaker 1: had the meat fall off the bone, I give my
Speaker 1: dog the bone, and like that was the treat for sure.
Speaker 1: All crack some eggs in her food or some mayonnaise
Speaker 1: and all those eggs and olive oil, and it's fine,
Speaker 1: or maybe if it's if it's crazy, I'll pour some
Speaker 1: bacon grease on her food from time to time. She
Speaker 1: loves that ship.
Speaker 2: But you know, I mean, yeah, you teach them. Your
Speaker 2: dog is a party of family dogs group, it's a
Speaker 2: party of peck. So you know, if I'm gonna eat good,
Speaker 2: I'm making dog eats good.
Speaker 1: I feel that, Royce, what you got both.
Speaker 3: I had a burbage question for you. So whenever you
Speaker 3: say when you when you're talking about people, are you
Speaker 3: saying a shock collar s h O c K shots?
Speaker 3: So I think it's shot collar s h O T
Speaker 3: To me, that makes more sense someone who calls the
Speaker 3: shots as far as like someone who's in control.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no way, way way lay lay la
Speaker 1: wa wa. Where we're talking about using a shock collar
Speaker 1: on your dog is for sure?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Yes, no, that I thought was whenever you were because
Speaker 6: you've you've said like shot collar when it comes to
Speaker 6: like who like who runs the political backing, and just
Speaker 6: from I just want to make sure that we're like
Speaker 6: shot collar or shot collar because sometimes those two words
Speaker 6: can sound extremely similar.
Speaker 7: Yeah no, no, no, no, so not like you know,
Speaker 7: shot call the twenty blades only Okay, all right, cool,
Speaker 7: we're talking about like yeah, no no, yeah, good good
Speaker 7: Now we're now we're in the same pagements.
Speaker 3: I'm like, because I know that with this with the dogs,
Speaker 3: you're talking about a shock caller.
Speaker 6: But I was like, wait a minute, now, what you
Speaker 6: trying to think Earlier in the conversation, did you say
Speaker 6: so shot like because that would.
Speaker 3: Also be very interesting if you used shock collar to
Speaker 3: refer to someone who is in control. Like it's like,
Speaker 3: so I don't want to make sure got you?
Speaker 2: Got you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We should. I even had to do. Who was training
Speaker 1: his uh duck dog with a shock callar and to
Speaker 1: test it, there was a there was a light bulb
Speaker 1: that he connected to both one on each of the
Speaker 1: prongs that went on the neck and he hit the
Speaker 1: button and the light would light up, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: you hitting that dog with some fucking with some voltage
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, but it's fine. He learned. I mean,
Speaker 1: to be fair, that was probably the best duck hunting
Speaker 1: dog I've ever seen in my life. But also, goddamn, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're gonna do it, at least shock
Speaker 1: yourself with it once just to see what's up. And
Speaker 1: then after a few beers he did and it was
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious. But you know, it is what it is,
Speaker 1: all right. So moving on into the conversation, Royce also said,
Speaker 1: don't say cabal loll there might be some people out
Speaker 1: there that think you're referring to the Kabbala. Dude, you
Speaker 1: ain't lying. There's people out there that when we say
Speaker 1: a global cabal. They're gonna be like, yeah, you mean
Speaker 1: the Jews of their kabala. It's like, that's that's not
Speaker 1: that is not what I mean. Although right the use
Speaker 1: of course, because certain people feel weird about using a
Speaker 1: hard j whatever. Anyway, let's see spirit animals say, don't
Speaker 1: where he's coming again. Tony says, Mohammed saved Judaism from extinction.
Speaker 1: He worked with them sometimes, but fought with and killed
Speaker 1: them other times. He died before the conquest of Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: But Arabian excuse me, Arabian Jews were part of that conquest,
Speaker 1: Yes they were. The seventy two virgins is supposed to
Speaker 1: be seventy two grapes. Not many people know that of
Speaker 1: that interpretation. Islam has violent literature, but so does the
Speaker 1: Old Testament. This is fair, It's very accurate. I've heard
Speaker 1: the whole grape conversation before. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a metaphor, like or if the
Speaker 1: virgin was supposed to be a metaphor, or if the
Speaker 1: imagery of a possible grape connection was actually a metaphor.
Speaker 1: To me, basically, untouched, untouched fruit, I e. Undeflowered vagine,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I've heard it be
Speaker 1: used both ways, but I know that pretty much every
Speaker 1: Muslim that reads that Adeth talks about the seventy two virgins,
Speaker 1: they do mean eyed virgins. And I've never seen grapes
Speaker 1: of black eyes. But like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Where this comes from. Is the consinal text of the Hadith?
Speaker 5: Because Arabic is written using consonants, and there were no
Speaker 5: vowels back in the day until the diacritical marks were
Speaker 5: introduced later. And the continental text is very ambiguous, so
Speaker 5: depending on what vowels you choose to insert, it could
Speaker 5: mean virgin, or it can mean great. It doesn't even
Speaker 5: mean the word for virgin. It says dark eyed, white eyed.
Speaker 5: It's completely contradictory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you just put it Kan, though.
Speaker 5: Kuran has quite a number of ambiguous fragments like that.
Speaker 5: And there's a German guy named Gunter Luling who tried
Speaker 5: to come up with alternative interpretations and he spoke Arabic fluently,
Speaker 5: and I don't know any Arabic. But when you got
Speaker 5: this continental text with no vowels, it's very ambiguous, so
Speaker 5: people can kind of change it to me in whatever
Speaker 5: they want.
Speaker 1: It's very true. And I mean the Hebrew language also,
Speaker 1: they don't do the vowel things similar, right, They pretty
Speaker 1: much only have consonants as far as how they write.
Speaker 1: And then to your point, certain things can mean other things.
Speaker 1: And I've heard the and Royce way in on this
Speaker 1: one too. I think we've talked about it before. It's
Speaker 1: been a minute, and I forget, is it true that
Speaker 1: in the Hebrew language there is no difference between the
Speaker 1: word for fruit juice and wine.
Speaker 8: No, there are no there are difference, Okay, So like, yeah,
Speaker 8: we went over this, forget grape juice and yying is wine?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, Because like in the Bible when they talk
Speaker 1: about Jesus turned war to wine, I've heard some people say, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know if you just turned it to really
Speaker 1: fancy grape juice or if it was actually wine, because
Speaker 1: there's no distinction in that language. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just have a hard time believing that they writers in
Speaker 1: Hebrew who have like sacramental wine somehow didn't come up
Speaker 1: with another word for juice versus wine. That makes no
Speaker 1: sense to me. I've also heard the same thing when
Speaker 1: it comes to Jesus having brothers and it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: in that language, the term brother could also mean like
Speaker 1: a really close friend or like a cousin. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they got a word for that. John the Baptist was
Speaker 1: his cousin. And he had his homies that were walking
Speaker 1: with him, that were his friends, and they said, Jesus's brothers.
Speaker 1: They use the term for brothers. I've had a few
Speaker 1: Catholics disagree with me on that one.
Speaker 3: I mean, so, I would like to make a couple
Speaker 3: of points about Hebrew in the Torah. So, first of all,
Speaker 3: interestingly enough, so in our call it a Bible or
Speaker 3: with any kind of commentary, there's at least a printed version,
Speaker 3: not a version that isn't a scroll itself. There are
Speaker 3: vowels that are printed, okay, which also means that that
Speaker 3: we've had the tradition how these words have been pronounced
Speaker 3: for hundreds, if not like a good thousands of years.
Speaker 3: Second of which, I have heard of the questions why
Speaker 3: was the Torah not written with vowels? And for the
Speaker 3: most and one of the explanations that I was given
Speaker 3: was that so that these stages were allowed to give
Speaker 3: homiletic interpretations as opposed to just the meaning of the
Speaker 3: words themselves. And then interestingly enough, there is something called
Speaker 3: a cree and catigued when it comes to the Torah,
Speaker 3: which basically means that there are words in the Torah
Speaker 3: that are written but are not said or said in
Speaker 3: a different that are said differently. They're could be even
Speaker 3: different words, uh completely for for those words. So even
Speaker 3: though there are no vowel marks in the actual tour itself,
Speaker 3: we have we have the tradition to how it is
Speaker 3: actually being said, and there are really there aren't. I
Speaker 3: think there's only one verse or I think there's two
Speaker 3: verses in the entire tour that there that Rashi, who
Speaker 3: who we mentioned earlier, wasn't sure where one sentence began
Speaker 3: and where one sentence ended in the in the entirety.
Speaker 3: So it's it's not so I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 3: black and white, but like to make a blanket saement
Speaker 3: is oh, because only the constants were written and there
Speaker 3: are no vowels, they didn't know how to, you know,
Speaker 3: they didn't know how to how the translation was lost. Whatever,
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily the the the case with the Torus
Speaker 3: is it I can't speak for any other any other
Speaker 3: religious texts. But the tour in and of itself.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. I've never heard that be
Speaker 1: the reason, but I understand the line of reasoning for sure.
Speaker 1: Let's see spirit animals said, here we go, Tony. Islam
Speaker 1: has committed more than seventy thousand terror attacks since two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. You're a smart man, but the married
Speaker 1: children then take sex slaves. Epstein would be a prophet,
Speaker 1: hell would he would be friends with a broke back Muhammad.
Speaker 1: Police be upon him, Police be upon him. That's funny,
Speaker 1: that's good. And you know, I'm not gonna give all
Speaker 1: the spoilers away here, but I hope everybody looks into
Speaker 1: the conversation. The episode is gonna be dropping on Friday
Speaker 1: of Dune. In my personal, humble opinion, is the reason
Speaker 1: why the Islam world started doing suicide bombings, which led
Speaker 1: to nine to eleven, which led to Fifty Shades of
Speaker 1: Gray because of my chemical romance. Go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 2: The fact. Okay, so I still don't understand how you
Speaker 2: go from that to fifty shades When fifty Shades was started,
Speaker 2: because the bit you did it was fascinated with trilt
Speaker 2: and said, you know what, make twilot better if we
Speaker 2: put bdsm in it. And do you know, Jimmy, then
Speaker 2: she was going to get published. But to get published,
Speaker 2: she went back on the on the Tha all of
Speaker 2: us and all that stuff bullshit and scrubbed all of
Speaker 2: her stories off of it. That is how why she
Speaker 2: was able to get published and everything. But she literally
Speaker 2: took one of her best quote unquote fan fictions and
Speaker 2: and swapped out it kept pretty much everything else, was
Speaker 2: swapped out the names and took out the vanuism. And
Speaker 2: that's how she made book series.
Speaker 1: Your Internet is dogshit, Tonight said, did you all say that?
Speaker 1: But no, you're right, You're absolutely right. And do you
Speaker 1: know why Twilight became a thing because of My Chemical Romance?
Speaker 1: Do you know why My Chemical Romance became a band
Speaker 1: because Gerard Way witnessed because he was there, he was
Speaker 1: in the city. There's a picture of him watching the
Speaker 1: tower burn. And why did the tower burn? And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying why did it collapse? We know that was
Speaker 1: an inside job in the bott all that the planes
Speaker 1: that actually hit them was because of a suicide bombing
Speaker 1: run and the Islamic world before nineteen eighty one, he
Speaker 1: has how many suicide bombings there were prior to nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on on them and say hardly any zero.
Speaker 1: Zero in the entire world, in the entire history of
Speaker 1: the world. The deef that writes about suicide, martyrdom and
Speaker 1: all of these things was written in eight eighty four.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it's been like three days since
Speaker 1: we shot. It's somewhere in the eight eighties a d
Speaker 1: So from eight eighty to nineteen eighty. Yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: little give or take a couple of years left right
Speaker 1: on this one. So for give or take eleven hundred
Speaker 1: years we had no suicide bombings, and then out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: from eighty one to now, Islam Islamics are responsible for
Speaker 1: ninety percent of all suicide bombings, reason being the Dune series.
Speaker 1: And that's almost say on it. That's almost say on it.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta go watch the episode to learn the rest.
Speaker 2: So does that mean ten percent of the remaining ten
Speaker 2: percent of suicide bombings is done by the eye. There's
Speaker 2: an argument a lot of call bombings in the eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an argument to be made for that. But
Speaker 1: now I'm talking from eighty one to now it's and
Speaker 1: like and I said, ninety percent is a generality. Some
Speaker 1: are saying it's between eighty five and ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of all suicide bombings or Islamic these days. So I'm
Speaker 1: meeting in the middle to just call it ninety But
Speaker 1: I mean, like, even we had a Catholic dude that
Speaker 1: bombed himself in an abortion clinic, uh, not too many
Speaker 1: years back, so like, that does happen, but that is
Speaker 1: the rarity. When I say suicide bomber, most people living
Speaker 1: in the year of twenty twenty six instantaneously think of
Speaker 1: a dude wearing a bed sheet screaming a Loha snack bar,
Speaker 1: and like, I get it. Cut to the situation in
Speaker 1: New York that just happened, which is a decent enough
Speaker 1: segue for us to get onto the conversation as far
Speaker 1: as what I actually wanted to talk about this evening.
Speaker 1: But you know what, oh shit, actually hold on, Yeah no, SeeU,
Speaker 1: the's a little more commentation here. It's all good. It's
Speaker 1: all good. We're gonna ahead and share the scream because
Speaker 1: one of the articles I have pulled up today is
Speaker 1: actually talking about the whole uh, the bombing, the attempted
Speaker 1: bombing anyway in New York City by those two dumbasses.
Speaker 1: But you know what, let's learn about it together, shall we.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So this is from police one dot com.
Speaker 1: The FBI has said that the New York City isis
Speaker 1: inspired terrorists that through IED's wanted to carry out attack
Speaker 1: bigger than the Boston bombing marathon or Boston marathon bombing,
Speaker 1: which again big shwinging a miss, big swinging a miss.
Speaker 1: And there were so many people, there were so many
Speaker 1: fucking mainstream media people that were like, that's not what
Speaker 1: they were doing. That's not it was.
Speaker 2: It was for.
Speaker 1: Palestine, it was for this, it was for Iran. It
Speaker 1: was like, bro, the dudes made a homemade explosive device
Speaker 1: using tatp IF. For anybody who doesn't know what that is,
Speaker 1: it's essentially a mixture of aceto acetone and hydrogen peroxide.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna give you all the percentages in
Speaker 1: the ratios because I don't need to get my door
Speaker 1: kicked in tonight. But what I am saying is that
Speaker 1: this is a va tool explosive that you can make.
Speaker 1: For the record, you can make a lot of explosives
Speaker 1: with just some basic shit. You got under your sink
Speaker 1: in your kitchen. I'm gonna be very honest with you.
Speaker 1: But whatever. So these two dumbasses made a ied and
Speaker 1: was trying This is one of them screaming a lah
Speaker 1: akbar as he's throwing it. And it's funny because I
Speaker 1: seen the video the dude right here with the hood.
Speaker 1: He was out here talking mad shit about the anti
Speaker 1: Islamic conversation and all this, and how these cops are
Speaker 1: racist because they're just trying to take out these these
Speaker 1: migrants and all this. And he was actually in that
Speaker 1: moment talking about how Muslims are good people and not
Speaker 1: all terrorists and bah bah bab aloha snack bar from
Speaker 1: fucking from downtown throwing over his head and then you
Speaker 1: see his face whenever that happens, He's just like oo,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, yeah, dumbass, clearly obviously, But all right,
Speaker 1: So this is Amir Balat and Ibrahim Kayumi. I'm probably
Speaker 1: fucking up the names, and to be honest, I don't
Speaker 1: really care. They faced numerous federal charges, including a terror
Speaker 1: charge and using a weapon of mass destruction charge, after
Speaker 1: the weekend incident outside the mayor's mansion and a lot
Speaker 1: of people were saying that this was this was an
Speaker 1: attack trying to take out Mom Donnie. Obviously that's what
Speaker 1: this was, bro. Mom Donnie wasn't even there and they
Speaker 1: threw it into a crowd of twenty to thirty police officers. No,
Speaker 1: Mom Donnie was not the target, obviously, clearly. So anyway,
Speaker 1: let's read into us So New York. The ices inspired
Speaker 1: terrorists who allegedly tried to bomb a protest in New
Speaker 1: York City wanted to carry out an attack bigger than
Speaker 1: the Boston marathon bombings, according to the FBI. We talked
Speaker 1: about the charges already. The attack happened during a protest
Speaker 1: called Stop the Islamic Takeover of New York City, Stop
Speaker 1: New York City Public Muslim Prayer. That was the name
Speaker 1: of the protests, and there was a counter protest called
Speaker 1: run Nazis out of New York. The white guy I'm
Speaker 1: talking about with that little fuzzy hood, that old Muslim
Speaker 1: boy threw the id over his head. He was of
Speaker 1: the run Nazis out of New York thing. And their
Speaker 1: whole thing was just to counter protest the Muslim hatred,
Speaker 1: which gotta be honest, an attempted idea attack is not
Speaker 1: a good way to make the points of the counter
Speaker 1: protests here. But anyway, after the New York City Police
Speaker 1: Department arrested the pair at the scene, they both made
Speaker 1: statements referring to Isis. According to the FBI, Affid David,
Speaker 1: and to my knowledge, Isis has not taken credit for
Speaker 1: this whatsoever. Same thing with the dude in New Orleans
Speaker 1: who were inted that truck and barreled down Bourbon Street
Speaker 1: to try to kill many people as he could, and
Speaker 1: he had Isis flag and all these things. Isis was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we don't fucking know that guy. Like we wish she did.
Speaker 1: That would be cool, but like, no, that wasn't us
Speaker 1: even a little bit. And to my knowledge as of
Speaker 1: this moment, as a time of recording, Isis has said
Speaker 1: the same thing about these two dumbasses. Ballot additionally stated
Speaker 1: that they wanted to carry out an attack bigger than
Speaker 1: Boston bombing marathon. Boston marathon bombing, God, why don't I
Speaker 1: keep doing that, which noted caused only three deaths. The
Speaker 1: FBI after David said, law enforcement officers later asked a
Speaker 1: lot if he was familiar with the Boston marathon bombing
Speaker 1: and if that was what Ballotta had hoped to accomplish,
Speaker 1: he said, no, even bigger. It was only three deaths.
Speaker 1: So again, these dudes were very clear cut as far
Speaker 1: as what their intentions were. April fifteenth, twenty thirteen, the
Speaker 1: Sarnev brother is probably mispronouncing that, but fucked them to
Speaker 1: planted two homeade pressure cooker bombs that deadnated near Bloison
Speaker 1: Street finished line of the Boston Marathon. Three people were
Speaker 1: killed and hundreds were injured in the terrorist attack. In
Speaker 1: this recent incident, preliminary testing of one of the devices
Speaker 1: indicates that it contained a quantity of triacetone trip peroxide,
Speaker 1: a highly volatile explosive material used in multiple terrorist attacks
Speaker 1: over the last decade. The FBI special Agent bomb technician
Speaker 1: determined that the devices were each about the size of
Speaker 1: a mason jar. They each had an attached fuse, and
Speaker 1: they had nuts and bolts attached to the exterior surrounded
Speaker 1: by duct tape. They basically tried to make their own fragradates.
Speaker 1: As Kayumi was being placed inside the New York Police
Speaker 1: Department vehicle to be transported, an individual from the surrounding
Speaker 1: crowd yelled to Kayumi and asked why he had done this,
Speaker 1: he responded in part and as captured on the body cam,
Speaker 1: isis yeah. The pair also referred to ISIS and recorded
Speaker 1: post arrest statements they made after receiving and waving their
Speaker 1: miranda rights. Ballot wrote on a piece of paper that
Speaker 1: he pledged allegiance to the Islamic State, and Kayumi said
Speaker 1: he was affiliated with ISIS, watched ISIS propaganda on his phone,
Speaker 1: and was partly inspired to carry out these actions that
Speaker 1: day by ISIS. This is a direct quote from the
Speaker 1: Attorney General Pambondi. We have charged two alleged ISIS inspired
Speaker 1: terrorist who attempted to bomb a protest in New York City.
Speaker 1: We will not allow ISIS poisonous anti American ideology to
Speaker 1: threaten this nation. Our law enforcement officers will remain vigilant.
Speaker 1: The attack comes amid the US's real conflict with ron
Speaker 1: as FBI on high alert for any threats. FBI personnel
Speaker 1: continue to be fully engaged across the country and prepared
Speaker 1: to mobilize any security assets needed to assist federal partners
Speaker 1: as well as state and local law enforcement. That's from
Speaker 1: the FBI Boston spokesperson. So anyway, this is the thing
Speaker 1: that took place. And again, I do not believe, truly,
Speaker 1: in my heart of hearts, I do not believe that
Speaker 1: every Muslim is waiting on the day where they can
Speaker 1: do this. I don't at all believe that. However, you
Speaker 1: get assholes like this and like the dude in New
Speaker 1: Orleans last year, and that gives the entire religion a
Speaker 1: horrible name. On top of the way that people are
Speaker 1: more critically looking at their religious books. And again, the
Speaker 1: Hadith is not the Koran, the whole seventy two version
Speaker 1: thing is not in the Quran. We actually just talked
Speaker 1: about this on the episode where we're talking about how
Speaker 1: Dune led to nine to eleven and all these things.
Speaker 1: Multiple Muslim scholars, very well respected Muslim scholars, will be
Speaker 1: the first to tell you suicide bombings are not blessed.
Speaker 1: You are not a martyr by blowing yourself up, because
Speaker 1: who killed you. Now, if a warrior jumps in the
Speaker 1: middle of one hundred enemy combatants and tries to take
Speaker 1: out as many as them as they could before he
Speaker 1: gets got yes, that's a martyr. Fine, that's blessed. In
Speaker 1: the whole thing. You doing a suicide bombing, you're killing yourself,
Speaker 1: which is expressly forbidden in the Koran, not to mention,
Speaker 1: most of the time it's civilians that are killed in
Speaker 1: the suicide bombing situation. So anyway, I'm very happy that
Speaker 1: they were unsuccessful with this. Uh, we don't need any
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks in America. And so many people are also saying,
Speaker 1: see with this whole iron situation, they gave a call
Speaker 1: sleeper cells are on the rise by bay A Boah.
Speaker 1: These two were not Iranian sleeper cells. I truly don't
Speaker 1: believe they were unless more information comes out later. And
Speaker 1: they clearly were born and raised in Iran and have
Speaker 1: only been here for like a year. Okay, cool, As
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, that is not the case.
Speaker 1: They just seem to be radicalized, dumbass young men and
Speaker 1: they are about to have their entire lives ruined because
Speaker 1: they really wanted to try to fuck around and find out.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing. It's absolutely a thing. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, go into the next topic here, So let's
Speaker 1: talk about As we're talking about explosives and things like this,
Speaker 1: three brothers were arrested after an explosion at the US
Speaker 1: embassy in Oslo, Norway. Yeah, that happened. This is only
Speaker 1: a few hours ago. Three brothers have been arrested in
Speaker 1: Norway link to an explosion outside the US embassy in
Speaker 1: the capital of Oslo on Sunday. The authorities believed the
Speaker 1: blast was caused by an improvised explosive device that was
Speaker 1: placed at the building's interest entrants. Rather, it caused minor
Speaker 1: damage and no injuries were reported. The brothers, all in
Speaker 1: their twenties, are Norwegian citizens with links to Iraq. Norway's
Speaker 1: police attorney told a press conference on Wednesday. Among them
Speaker 1: is thought to be a suspect. Police that a suspect.
Speaker 1: Police had previously released images of Broadcaster NRK reported they
Speaker 1: are suspected of a terror bombing. None of the brothers
Speaker 1: who have been named were previously known to police. The
Speaker 1: authorities are investigating several theories about the motivation for the attack.
Speaker 1: I just have a weird feeling we already could guess,
Speaker 1: but like all right, including whether a foreign state actor
Speaker 1: was involved. The most important thing is to get them
Speaker 1: the suspects questioned, then we'll see what happens as well
Speaker 1: as the images are released. Earlier this week, investigators have
Speaker 1: also been examining a video published on Google Maps around
Speaker 1: the time of the incident. The now deleted video featured
Speaker 1: Aron's former supreme leader Iotol Kamane. Local media reported he
Speaker 1: was killed last month. We already know about that. Dogs,
Speaker 1: drones and helicopters were used to carry out investigations as
Speaker 1: seen of the explosion that as police said the investigation
Speaker 1: into the embassy was being treated as high priority. Emergency
Speaker 1: services were dispatched cool Cool Cool. Following the incident. Photos
Speaker 1: posted on social media showed shattered glass in the snow
Speaker 1: outside the entrance of the embassy's consular section, cracks in
Speaker 1: the glass door, and dark marks on a tiled floor.
Speaker 1: Norwegian authorities described the incident as unacceptable. Of course, US
Speaker 1: State Department spokesperson said it was investigating the incident too,
Speaker 1: so we don't really know much about it as of
Speaker 1: time of recording. But yes, these three dudes, who apparently
Speaker 1: are brothers, are the suspects and have been arrested. In
Speaker 1: regards to the bombing outside of the Norwegian Embassy or
Speaker 1: the American embassy in Norway. I should say I didn't
Speaker 1: see that coming. I know that Norway, as well as
Speaker 1: many other European nations, has had a little bit of
Speaker 1: an influx of Islamic quote unquote refugees, but not nearly
Speaker 1: to the extent of England or France or Germany. So
Speaker 1: I mean again, I didn't see this one coming from there.
Speaker 1: But apparently here we are. You know, here we are.
Speaker 1: Let's see moving on here talking about the whole Iran situation,
Speaker 1: Democrat senator is saying we seem to be on a
Speaker 1: path towards deploying US troops on the ground in Iran.
Speaker 1: This is from the hill. I don't know if that's accurate.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. Now, of course the Democratic dude
Speaker 1: be saying that it's possible, it's very possible that this
Speaker 1: conflict goes to the point of actually getting boots on
Speaker 1: the ground. I just don't see it being necessary. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not like at the I'm not with my finger
Speaker 1: on the pulse of the military strategy of what's going
Speaker 1: on down in the Pentagon. I get this, but I
Speaker 1: feel like we have a pretty effective attack method going
Speaker 1: on right now. Iran is also sending out a lot
Speaker 1: of drones and a lot of bombs, and a lot
Speaker 1: of those are getting intercepted, but some are making it through.
Speaker 1: You get some squirters that are absolutely getting through and
Speaker 1: they're causing some damage, some very good hits as far
Speaker 1: as that's concerned, as far as their targeting goes. So
Speaker 1: I could see this just kind of going that way. Also,
Speaker 1: we talked about this last week, and from what I
Speaker 1: could tell, it's definitely a go of training up the
Speaker 1: local Kurds to be the boots on the ground fighting
Speaker 1: force in Iran. I don't really think we're gonna need
Speaker 1: a whole lot of US service members to go and
Speaker 1: deploy to Iran, But I mean, I know it's still
Speaker 1: in the very early stages of those conflicts, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. But let's hear what the Democrat from Connecticut
Speaker 1: had to say on it. Actually, go ahead, Royce.
Speaker 3: I just have a question that may or may not
Speaker 3: be related. Okay, So does this mean that our gas
Speaker 3: price can go down anytime soon?
Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not. You know, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about gas probably a couple of weeks ago, and last
Speaker 1: week I watched as it jumped up to three dollars
Speaker 1: a gallon, and I was like, son of a bitch, like,
Speaker 1: what what is going on now? Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna go down here on letting it down
Speaker 3: here three sixty nine, three sixty nine for four unleaded.
Speaker 1: I actually I haven't filled up this week yet, so
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean we're good to be going to four dollars
Speaker 3: very soon, which, as I've said, it's not very pleasant
Speaker 3: since I go about twenty cents. More so, just it's frustrating. Bro.
Speaker 1: Just a few months ago we were down to like
Speaker 1: two forty two fifty a gallon. It was beautiful. What
Speaker 1: are we doing here? This is That's that's what kills
Speaker 1: me too. I understand that we are affecting the price
Speaker 1: of oil for our own strategic reasons, like per barrel
Speaker 1: and all that America makes our own oil. Why are
Speaker 1: we not drilling, why are we not getting it from Alaska?
Speaker 1: Why are we buying from other countries? Therefore letting that
Speaker 1: affect our gas prices. I've never I understand there's like
Speaker 1: bigger things afoot, but I have never actually understood that
Speaker 1: if we produce it for ourselves, why the fuck would
Speaker 1: we buy from anyone else? And I've also heard people say, well,
Speaker 1: it's because we don't want to use all of our
Speaker 1: strategic reserves, and we're trying to bleed everybody else dry
Speaker 1: so that when the time comes, they'll only come to America.
Speaker 1: Except for the fact that all the oil wells are refilling.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought that oil was a finite resource. All the
Speaker 1: wells in Pennsylvania and Ohio that have since dried up
Speaker 1: since the nineteen twenties are refilling themselves. So no, oil
Speaker 1: is not a finite resource. And that was before we
Speaker 1: even knew about shale. So, like, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: understand why.
Speaker 3: So I wonder if some of this has to do
Speaker 3: with things literally not in their control. For example, I
Speaker 3: think that before Trump uh got it in the presidency,
Speaker 3: where like what there is that hopefully he'll be good
Speaker 3: for the country, whatever there is that thought that, okay, well,
Speaker 3: since we had four years of Biden that were so horrendous. Literally,
Speaker 3: all Trump needs to do is do things very similar
Speaker 3: to his first four years, and then Republicans will be
Speaker 3: shoeing for the office for the next x amount of presidencies.
Speaker 1: I remember having that conversation, honestly, fuck stuff up. Democrats
Speaker 1: may never win again.
Speaker 9: I remember thinking this, and here's so, but so then
Speaker 9: he starts doing this and this is what's going to
Speaker 9: make people think, oh, well, when Biden was in so yes,
Speaker 9: they were in three dots.
Speaker 3: Okay, then it went down, but now we're back this
Speaker 3: now that we're back in war. No, Like, literally he's
Speaker 3: doing everything that he can to fuck over any Republican
Speaker 3: who is going to Like, almost before, if he's if
Speaker 3: he endorsed somebody, they were almost to shoe in. Now
Speaker 3: if he endorses somebody of like, oh well, this guy
Speaker 3: is the guy who didn't want to release the option
Speaker 3: of file until he was literally mandated with with you know,
Speaker 3: his hands behind his back. He was he was a
Speaker 3: president that said that no more wars. Oh now we're
Speaker 3: starting to attack another country. Oh well, the economy is
Speaker 3: going back down. Like, he's literally doing everything that he
Speaker 3: can to fuck over any other Republican who's going to
Speaker 3: be running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's which some people thought maybe and I
Speaker 1: didn't think this was definite. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: pretty strong possibility that his sons might try to run,
Speaker 1: Like we had the real possibility for like a Trump
Speaker 1: dynasty in Washington, DC for the next at least two
Speaker 1: or three administrations. I don't really think that send the
Speaker 1: cards as of this moment. I mean, granted, it's not
Speaker 1: like the Democrats are gonna put up anybody that's worth
Speaker 1: the fuck. Gavin Newsom seems to be like the one
Speaker 1: they're trying to groom for that role, and that's gonna go.
Speaker 1: That's gonna go about as well as a lead balloon,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But even still, it's like
Speaker 1: all he had to do was worry about America and
Speaker 1: stick to his first administration, his first run. He fulfilled
Speaker 1: his campaign promises, he did exactly what he said he
Speaker 1: was gonna do, which was refreshing and crazy. All he
Speaker 1: had to do was that, or even just do the
Speaker 1: pet Rock thing and do fuck all, and you probably
Speaker 1: would have just secured the victory for Republicans for the
Speaker 1: next three four five administrations. Yeah, I honestly can't speak
Speaker 1: to that now. And to your point, as far as
Speaker 1: it's for other outside political reasons, I think that that nowadays,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that might be the reason. It's not that
Speaker 1: we need to buy Saudi Arabian oil. We could do
Speaker 1: our own thing. It's the it's to make these business
Speaker 1: transactions happen. It's the you scratch my back, I scratch
Speaker 1: yours later. Kind of thing, and it's us propping up
Speaker 1: countries above board, of course and totally legitimate through business
Speaker 1: and all these things, so that we can later utilize
Speaker 1: them for our own needs at a later point that
Speaker 1: may or may not happen. And that's I understand it.
Speaker 1: I don't fucking like it. It's like taking a It's
Speaker 1: like taking a loan from somebody when you actually don't
Speaker 1: need the money, and you just take that money and
Speaker 1: put it in a separate account for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then you pay them back six months later with
Speaker 1: like an extra ten k on top as a thank you.
Speaker 1: It's not that you even needed it. All you did
Speaker 1: was just give them a good, warm and fuzzy feeling
Speaker 1: on the inside about if and when you ever need
Speaker 1: something from them again, they'll give it to you without
Speaker 1: asking any questions. It's more like that, if this makes sense,
Speaker 1: if I lost anybody, please let me know. But that
Speaker 1: seems to be more of the reason behind it. And
Speaker 1: so the whole situation with Iran. I'm still the belief
Speaker 1: now that we are not going to be sending troops.
Speaker 1: Actually that I can't say with one hundred percent certainty.
Speaker 1: If anything, I'm more of like a I'm like a
Speaker 1: sixty to forty split on this as of this moment,
Speaker 1: but very much. That's every few hours we get new
Speaker 1: intel and new information about what just got hit, what
Speaker 1: just got bombed? Did they touch our boats? Was that
Speaker 1: false information? You know what I mean? There's so much.
Speaker 1: There's so much and only so much that I can
Speaker 1: really weed through on any given day. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: But this Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal from Connecticut, he left
Speaker 1: a Senate Armed Service Committee briefing on the Iran War
Speaker 1: Tuesday saying he believes the Trump administration is on a
Speaker 1: path to putting US troops on the ground in Iran.
Speaker 1: It's a direct quote from him. We seem to be
Speaker 1: on a path toward deploying troops on the ground in
Speaker 1: Iran in to accomplish any of the potential objectives. Blueomenthal
Speaker 1: said he left the briefing as dissatisfied and angry, frankly,
Speaker 1: as I have from any past briefing in my fifteen
Speaker 1: years in Senate. I am left with more questions than answers,
Speaker 1: especially about the cost of the war. He said. My
Speaker 1: questions have been unanswered, and I will demand answers because
Speaker 1: the American people deserve to know. Of course, President Trump
Speaker 1: has not ruled out putting boots on the ground Iran,
Speaker 1: though it is far from clear he would do so.
Speaker 1: Putting US soldiers in Iran would raise the stakes of
Speaker 1: the conflicts and the political risks for Trump and Republicans
Speaker 1: in the election or in an election year. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's midterms, but it's not like Republicans are going to
Speaker 1: hold the position that the pendulum is going to swing
Speaker 1: the opposite way. That's how this goes. And the fact
Speaker 1: that people are still holding on to hope for that
Speaker 1: blows my mind. But whatever, the administration has offered shifting
Speaker 1: rationale for its objectives in the war, ranging from preventing
Speaker 1: Iran for having nuclear weapons to regime change. Iran this
Speaker 1: week named a new supreme leader, and its regime has
Speaker 1: shown few signs of backing down. Yeah, Kamane's kid is
Speaker 1: the new iatola. Which help me out, Tony on that one,
Speaker 1: I thought that was clearly gonna be what it was like,
Speaker 1: he's been groomed for the position for years. So they
Speaker 1: kept like naming these interim ayatolas and they kept getting bombed,
Speaker 1: and now it's like, yep, baby Kimane's in charge of
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, no, shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't really help with that. I I was
Speaker 5: not privy to or I did not really do a
Speaker 5: lot of research on that, but it's him, So yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what we're getting.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I thought, and I don't know this part
Speaker 1: for a fact, but as far as Shia Islam is concerned,
Speaker 1: I thought it was big with their hereditary right, like
Speaker 1: they they believe that there needs to be like a
Speaker 1: bloodline chain of succession or am I getting them confused
Speaker 1: with Sunny?
Speaker 5: You're right, Yeah, that's the Shia and that refers to
Speaker 5: the grandy mom. So they don't really believe in democracy
Speaker 5: or republican form of government. They believe that the ideal
Speaker 5: form is going to be this grandy mom, which is
Speaker 5: their equivalent of a caliph. I believe that Ali ibn
Speaker 5: abdel Talib was the first grandy Mom. He was also
Speaker 5: the fourth rasher Don caliph in Sunni Islam, and then
Speaker 5: there were eleven others after him. A lot of them
Speaker 5: got killed, and then the way they do succession planning
Speaker 5: is not via an election, so the successor has to
Speaker 5: be appointed. So the twelfth one disappeared in a battle
Speaker 5: and he was a little kid, and she believed that
Speaker 5: he's still alive out there somewhere, and he's the twelfth
Speaker 5: in mom, and he's a thousand years old and he's
Speaker 5: going to come back with Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing about that one.
Speaker 5: But heredity does not influence who ought to be president today.
Speaker 5: It's just hereditary monarchies are a common thing everywhere, including
Speaker 5: North Korea, where hereditary monarchy is supposed to be the
Speaker 5: antithesis of communism. But they just do it anyway, and
Speaker 5: there's a certain logic to it and a certain expectation
Speaker 5: it'll happen anyway, so it makes people happy, So that's
Speaker 5: why it happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know, maybe this was the plan
Speaker 1: the entire time to put Kamane's kid in that role,
Speaker 1: and they just kept naming these interim ones in the
Speaker 1: transitional period or whatever. But this dude, and we have
Speaker 1: an article pulled up on him. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: he has the most security that the nation of Iran
Speaker 1: can give him right now because they are trying to
Speaker 1: protect him because the last I want to say, within
Speaker 1: the last month, they've had six iatolas. Of course, the
Speaker 1: original KHMANI he got hit and then I think there
Speaker 1: was like five interims that were named. And I keep
Speaker 1: hearing conflicting reports on this. I've heard some say two,
Speaker 1: I've heard some say six and like Interim six, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't verify. I to the best of
Speaker 1: my knowledge, I think they had five interims, and one
Speaker 1: of them that they named everybody was super concerned with
Speaker 1: because this dude was supposed to be even more brutal
Speaker 1: and all these things than Kamani. And he was gone,
Speaker 1: Like by the time the YouTube videos about this guy
Speaker 1: came out, he was gone.
Speaker 5: And it's like, well shit, you know, but you know,
Speaker 5: don't you think it's kind of dishonorable to assassinate foreign
Speaker 5: heads of state like this?
Speaker 1: In one sense maybe, but at the same time we're
Speaker 1: at war, then like, no, an assassination of the leader
Speaker 1: is That's kind of been the that's been the jam
Speaker 1: throughout the course of human history. I mean, I disagree,
Speaker 1: I say out loud. I can't say that it was
Speaker 1: always about ransom, kidnapping and ransoming. That's been the going
Speaker 1: trend for millennias.
Speaker 5: But mah, even at war, because didn't Mike Johnson say
Speaker 5: we're not. And then other people say, we've been at
Speaker 5: war for forty seven years, so it's Schrodinger's war. In
Speaker 5: my opinion, it's war when they want it to be
Speaker 5: and not when they don't want it to be. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know, taking out the Ayatola, his family and
Speaker 5: the school was definitely a very dishonorable way to start
Speaker 5: this war, and we lost a lot of moral authority
Speaker 5: doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm still hearing conflicting reports about that school, honestly, and
Speaker 1: it's and the same thing about the whole the three jets,
Speaker 1: the US jets that were shot down over Kuwait. I'm
Speaker 1: hearing conflicting reports on this one as well. And I'll
Speaker 1: break this down for just a minute here. So as
Speaker 1: far as the school bombing is concerned, and this goes
Speaker 1: ties in as far as the amount of information and
Speaker 1: disinformation that's coming out about this whole situation. Right, the
Speaker 1: first reports that we heard was that it was America
Speaker 1: that bombed them. Then the reports were saying, no, this
Speaker 1: was an Iranian missile that got bad coordinates or something
Speaker 1: fucked up with one of the rockets, and it was
Speaker 1: a it was a horrible accident, but one of the
Speaker 1: rockets did have some malfunction and it hit the worst
Speaker 1: possible location, and then we're still hearing reports that it
Speaker 1: might have been America. But if it was, then what
Speaker 1: would been All of our strikes have been strategic. There
Speaker 1: hasn't been any strays or any quarters as are called,
Speaker 1: that hit a random field somewhere or a random building.
Speaker 1: All of our strikes have been very strategic and have
Speaker 1: been on the money. So what would have been the
Speaker 1: point of the school unless the person that put in
Speaker 1: those coordinates got that intel too. And I'm seeing on
Speaker 1: both sides here. I honestly can't call it one way
Speaker 1: or another. But then the conversation about the jets and Kuwait,
Speaker 1: same thing. So the three jets that were hit in
Speaker 1: Kuwait allegedly were hit with patriots. That's the story we
Speaker 1: were heard, and they were fired from Kuwait's military. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my problem with that. These jets were hit on
Speaker 1: the tails patriots hit the cockpit. Again, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent accurate and certain. I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is about a ninety nine point nine nine nine
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred if a Patriot ground to
Speaker 1: air defensive system was used that bitch is hitting the
Speaker 1: cock of the plane. It's not a heat seeker. That's
Speaker 1: not how this works. It's not going to hit the
Speaker 1: tail where the jets are at. So the story doesn't
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense. Some were saying that
Speaker 1: it might have been an air to air kill, like
Speaker 1: a straight up blue on blue fracture side type situation,
Speaker 1: but also that doesn't make sense when you look at
Speaker 1: the damage that these planes sustained as well the fact
Speaker 1: that all the pilots are able to eject and that
Speaker 1: the plane was still in one piece as it was
Speaker 1: kind of I'm not spiraling down but it was in
Speaker 1: free fall, but still level that none of the story
Speaker 1: makes sense. The Kuwaiti government has acknowledged that they are
Speaker 1: it was their fuck up and they absolutely did it,
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, the dudes that did
Speaker 1: that are probably executed right now. Kuwait doesn't. They're cool
Speaker 1: with people having some o's, not to that level. Those
Speaker 1: dudes probably got beheaded, honestly, But the Kuwaiti government acknowledged
Speaker 1: that it was their fuck up. But the storyline as
Speaker 1: to how it was their fuck up that gets more
Speaker 1: and more dubious the more I look into it, and
Speaker 1: that's my point. I don't know what to make of that,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to make about the school
Speaker 1: bombing either. I don't know. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was America or not.
Speaker 5: I don't really care so much about the three jets
Speaker 5: because the pilots all survived and it was just probably
Speaker 5: an accident. I don't really care about that no matter
Speaker 5: what it was. But the school thing is definitely gonna
Speaker 5: be unforgiven and live in the memories of a lot
Speaker 5: of people for a long time. It seems like it
Speaker 5: was hit by two tomahawks, and Iran doesn't have those
Speaker 5: in Israel doesn't have those either. It was probably bad intel.
Speaker 5: They're probably trying to hit a nearby IRGC building six
Speaker 5: hundred meters away, so it wasn't right next door. It
Speaker 5: was over a quarter mile away.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's a bit of a for
Speaker 1: the amount of intel that we have. That's not a
Speaker 1: small fuck up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pretty bad look. I think if DeSantis
Speaker 5: had been president, stuff like that probably wouldn't have happened,
Speaker 5: and he might have been able to maneuver the iatola
Speaker 5: into firing the first shot, which would make America look
Speaker 5: a lot better, and it would make anti war advocacy
Speaker 5: for people like me a lot harder.
Speaker 1: That's fair, But I mean, I hear what you're saying
Speaker 1: as far as the Santa is being able to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, honey, dick in a bit and make the
Speaker 1: Iatola fire the first shot because he's he's a bit
Speaker 1: of a shit stir er. And I hear this, bro.
Speaker 1: Trump is the most inflammatory motherfucker we've probably ever had
Speaker 1: in that position in the last few decades. If nothing else,
Speaker 1: it's crazy to me that he wasn't able to talk
Speaker 1: enough shit to piss off the Iyatolla enough to fire
Speaker 1: the first shot. If anybody would, I figured it would
Speaker 1: have been Trump, to be honest with you, you know anyway, Sam,
Speaker 1: I see your hand, brother weigh in, Well.
Speaker 3: He.
Speaker 2: Sorry, if you really want it technical we've been out
Speaker 2: with Oh then that general region since hell seventeen what
Speaker 2: seventeen eighty? When when was the Navy founded? Uh, Jacob?
Speaker 1: The Navy was founded October tenth, seventeen seventy five. The
Speaker 1: Marine Corps was U I'm sorry October thirteen, seventeen, so
Speaker 1: seventeen seventy five. We were found in November tenth, seventeen
Speaker 1: seventy five. But our flag was adopted first, which is
Speaker 1: whyever you see a joint color guard together the Army
Speaker 1: flag then the Marine Corps flag. Our flag was adopted first.
Speaker 1: So a but yeah, so we a know it's talking
Speaker 1: about with Tripoli and the beheadings of the Navy personnel.
Speaker 2: That, but like the entire reason why, like this said,
Speaker 2: all right, so fund history fact for all those who
Speaker 2: don't know. Shortly they're after they shortly there after the
Speaker 2: Revolutionary War, they actually disbanded the Navy, and I want
Speaker 2: to say they disbanded the Marine Corps also that they did.
Speaker 2: It was disbanded for like ten years. And the reason
Speaker 2: why is it we was shortly thereafter we actually had
Speaker 2: I want to say it was Jefferson or was it at.
Speaker 1: Adams or Jefferson Jefferson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jefferson actually had to fight Congress and he had
Speaker 2: three ships made and he actually did some gangster shit.
Speaker 2: He so he couldn't declare war. Congress was like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not gonna think, just send them the uh, just
Speaker 2: give him the the the ransom. Well he was like
Speaker 2: fuck that. So what he did was he he he
Speaker 2: told before he gets sending them off. He actually sent
Speaker 2: a letter and everything, ship talked the Sultan and everything.
Speaker 2: And by the time our guys got there, because he
Speaker 2: only told them that, hey, whatever you do, if you
Speaker 2: even think they're going to attack, you've lighted them the
Speaker 2: fuck up paraphrasing, because I'm pretty sure they didn't say fuck.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Possibly, dude, because whenever then we're talking about the Barbary
Speaker 1: pirate wars. Just everybody's clear here and in the Marine
Speaker 1: corps Hill when we were talking about they are, they
Speaker 1: are absolutely And in the Marine corps hell when it
Speaker 1: says from the halls of monte Zuma to the shores
Speaker 1: of Tripoli, that's that's where this was. And the situation
Speaker 1: here basically ship ran aground these Muslim dudes took the
Speaker 1: prisoners of the people on the ship. There was a
Speaker 1: ransom situation going on, and then Jefferson figured out that
Speaker 1: they were actually all beheaded, and he couldn't figure out why, like,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you have just done it this way? Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you have waited for the ransom, Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: have waited for a response, whatever. So Jefferson read the Quran,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, and he determined very quickly that
Speaker 1: this was not a group that America is going to
Speaker 1: do business with, so he sent in the Marines. And
Speaker 1: there's a whole story about why the Marine Corps officers
Speaker 1: carry the man Luke's sword, which was a Muslim sword.
Speaker 1: So that's a reason for all these things. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, to your point about how it's not a war,
Speaker 1: because go ahead.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken. That's also when we get the
Speaker 2: name leathernext, because we had at that point in time.
Speaker 2: It's also why our blouse is folded down. It's a
Speaker 2: homage to and everything because during that they were fighting
Speaker 2: with cutlasses and sabers. They we actually have that padding
Speaker 2: around their neck for extra petition so they don't get
Speaker 2: hit in the jugular because, believe it or not, leather
Speaker 2: and that can sometimes stop a blade.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this was made for that purpose. And you're
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. If you've ever seen Gangs in New York
Speaker 1: the opening scene where Liam Neeson is like shaving his face,
Speaker 1: and you've never seen the movie Gangs in New York,
Speaker 1: n Sir, homework assignment for you saying that now it's
Speaker 1: worth the watch. There's it's almost historically accurate. There's there.
Speaker 1: They pretty much took twenty years of things and condensed
Speaker 1: it down to like a five year span, and they
Speaker 1: made certain characters accurate and certain characters super not. But
Speaker 1: it's it's a wonderful movie. But opening scene, Liam Neesen
Speaker 1: is getting ready to go to battle and he's shaving
Speaker 1: his face and he clips his leather neck because he's
Speaker 1: going in for a fight where guns aren't used but
Speaker 1: all hand weapons are. That leather neck is in reference
Speaker 1: to what you're talking about where the Marines get our
Speaker 1: nicknamed leatherneck because when it's a fight with blades, that's
Speaker 1: absolutely the web. And then even further German fencing that
Speaker 1: you would see if you ever see these Nazis with
Speaker 1: these massive facial scars that they had, the fencing that
Speaker 1: they would do with a horse hair in the whole nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was from fencing that was done in
Speaker 1: very prestigious schools in Germany prior to the Third Reich.
Speaker 1: And they would wear leather neck like leather collars and
Speaker 1: then goggles with bars on them, but their face would
Speaker 1: be exposed. So like, yeah, the fighting and using a
Speaker 1: leather collar as protection from blades is absolutely like, that's cannon.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so as far as the conversation about it
Speaker 1: being a war versus not being a war, and Tony
Speaker 1: you had mentioned this, Yeah, Congress has to approve a
Speaker 1: thing to declare war. Otherwise the president could just name
Speaker 1: it Operation whatever and send in marines and then send
Speaker 1: in everybody else for support, and before you know it,
Speaker 1: we have an entire military operation that's technically not a war.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's Russia is doing the same shit right now. They're
Speaker 1: still calling it a special military operation rather than a war.
Speaker 1: It's just the thing to make it look a certain
Speaker 1: way on paper, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a way to make it deniable so it
Speaker 5: can be a war when you want it to be,
Speaker 5: and then you can pretend, oh, we weren't a warrior.
Speaker 5: You know what, are you making a big deal out
Speaker 5: of this? For come on, we didn't declare war. And
Speaker 5: I don't think it's right to say we've been a
Speaker 5: war with them since the Barbary Pirates, because it's a
Speaker 5: war that most people, you know, just aren't thinking about,
Speaker 5: and one that we can bring up and say, hey,
Speaker 5: don't you remember this in nineteen seventy nine or nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty three or seventeen, oh wait, eighteen, whatever it was.
Speaker 5: And we don't. We're not at war against Islam either,
Speaker 5: like the Crusades sort of allegedly were. We're just picking
Speaker 5: and choosing sides within the Islamic world. One year at
Speaker 5: Saddam Hussein, the next year it's anwar Sadat or something. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's always, you know, one faction against another, and Siria
Speaker 5: is the best illustration of this. We're on the side
Speaker 5: of the Sunies against the Alo Whites for a while,
Speaker 5: and then the Suonis become Isis and we decide, well,
Speaker 5: I guess we got a reverse course and bomb the
Speaker 5: bomb Isis. We're still against the Alo Whites too. We
Speaker 5: just like the Kurds and the moderate rebels with whoever
Speaker 5: they are for now.
Speaker 1: For now, we like the Kurds. Given another decade, I'm
Speaker 1: sure the Kurds would be the big bad guy we
Speaker 1: got to go fight. It's it's a whole thing. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. No, I don't.
Speaker 5: They're not willing to Iran right now. People thought they
Speaker 5: were last week, but apparently not.
Speaker 1: I think actually might even have an article pulled up
Speaker 1: where they're training up right now in order to go
Speaker 1: and do these things are.
Speaker 5: Rani and kurtis Stan and Iraqi Kurdistan from everything I've seen,
Speaker 5: have said no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I might I think I pull one up, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I brought it up for this episode,
Speaker 1: to be honest, but we'll see what might get to it.
Speaker 1: And no, I agree with you. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: at war with Islam as a religion because if actually,
Speaker 1: to further that point, the oldest treaty that America has
Speaker 1: on the books is with Morocco, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: which was and still is an Islamic nation. Basically, as
Speaker 1: soon as we became a country, we signed a treaty
Speaker 1: with them to have like open trade relations forever in
Speaker 1: all time and perpetuity until the end of the universe.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. That was, I want to say, like
Speaker 1: within a year or two of us becoming our own
Speaker 1: nation from Britain. So we don't have an issue as
Speaker 1: a nation. America doesn't have an issue with Islam. We
Speaker 1: got an issue with pieces of shit that fuck with
Speaker 1: our things and fuck with our boats, which is what
Speaker 1: they had done, to be honest. So anyway, moving on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Senator. He's Democratic senator is basically saying like, we
Speaker 1: are absolutely, probably maybe but totally trust me, getting ready
Speaker 1: to deploy troops, even though the Trump administration has not
Speaker 1: said anything in that regard as of yet. That's the
Speaker 1: overunder of this article. As we're talking about this, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this here, we're talking about the Ayatola lethal
Speaker 1: Elite black Clad Killer Squad guards Iran's new Supreme leader,
Speaker 1: maj Taba Kahmani. I'm probably mispronouncing that, but okay. An
Speaker 1: elite counter terrorism unit has been deployed to protect Iran's
Speaker 1: newly appointed Supreme leader following the assassination of his father.
Speaker 1: The force, known as NPO, Iran's Black Clad counter Terrorism
Speaker 1: Special Force, was assigned to safeguard the leader after a
Speaker 1: US Israeli strike on Tehran compound in February. February twenty
Speaker 1: eighth killed the elder Kamane Amid the start of Operation
Speaker 1: Epic Fury. With Kamani gone, n OPO will likely now
Speaker 1: be protecting moj Taba Kahmani. An official with the Foreign
Speaker 1: Affairs Committee of the Paris based National Council of Resistance
Speaker 1: of Iran or n CRII said, the National Council of
Speaker 1: Resistance of Iran. That's a Paris based organization. I'm be
Speaker 1: honest with y'all, first time I've ever heard of it,
Speaker 1: But all right. The NPO force formed in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: one had the twenty eighth Ruhola Khmani's first name Okay
Speaker 1: Division as it's nucleus. According to Safavi, which is the
Speaker 1: spokesperson we talked about a second ago, and typically handles
Speaker 1: hostage rescue operations. Its task was not to protect Kamanie.
Speaker 1: There's a picture of them now that they're all tacked
Speaker 1: out and shit, and they're carrying some pretty sick, nasty aks,
Speaker 1: if I do say so myself. But my issue no optics.
Speaker 1: They have these pimped out situations going on here with
Speaker 1: very Soviet era and muzzle brakes and no optics whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And they got the rail for it. They have the rail.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is clip on the bar.
Speaker 1: I can pull my AK out of my gun safe
Speaker 1: right now and show y'all it's a bar you clip
Speaker 1: on to the side and you could mount whatever optics
Speaker 1: you want on the bitch and it's sick. So they
Speaker 1: have the ability for it. But they don't have it.
Speaker 1: But okay, maybe it's more for like close rain shit
Speaker 1: is what they're worried about. Because your boy's over here
Speaker 1: with the MP five as well, and that's not exactly
Speaker 1: a long range weapon either, So I don't know. Go ahead, Sam,
Speaker 1: you in the fucking gay case, dude, what it's a
Speaker 1: superior rifle round?
Speaker 5: What am I do?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? The the M sixteen is dog shit. I'm
Speaker 1: very sorry.
Speaker 2: It's okay, you ain't gotta have an M sixteen all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, fuck it, dude, I'd be happy with the
Speaker 2: fucking name with a thirty six round. Personally, I think
Speaker 2: we should go back. We should probably get back to
Speaker 2: the ones.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. Well, I mean the one
Speaker 1: grand now we have. We need higher rates of fire
Speaker 1: in that. I do like the I A rs that
Speaker 1: are currently being fielded.
Speaker 2: But my point is, like the generally that caliber.
Speaker 1: Hear me out, this is a two two three, This
Speaker 1: is a seven six two, okay, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is a three h eight round as opposed to
Speaker 1: a glorified twenty two. I'm sorry, I'm shooting even MOUs
Speaker 1: dog Okay, you want to give me ship for the
Speaker 1: a K while you're using a mouser. Okay, if we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about commy rounds, let's let's go there, shall we?
Speaker 2: No, but but no.
Speaker 1: I don't like the AK for certain reasons. I don't
Speaker 1: like the AR platform for certain reasons. I like the
Speaker 1: AR platform for other I like it's the versatility. I
Speaker 1: like it's adaptability. I don't like the calibers chambered in.
Speaker 1: And I don't like how the smallest bit of dirt
Speaker 1: in the in the fucking bolt after a while and
Speaker 1: it cries. It's like, all right, how can I put this?
Speaker 1: The AR is like your wife. The AK is like
Speaker 1: the whore.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. The AR.
Speaker 1: You can get all of its pretty attachments. You can
Speaker 1: keep her clean, you can do all things to get
Speaker 1: her happy, and all things, and in your moment, in
Speaker 1: each she probably will still fail you.
Speaker 3: The horror.
Speaker 1: You just fucking feed her and she works for you.
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason why I got a thing against
Speaker 2: the AK, it's Russian. The last Russian gun I had,
Speaker 2: damn near took my fucking head off. You just said
Speaker 2: a mouser, the COMMI gun. Yes, I sold my mosin
Speaker 2: and got a Yugoslavian captured call ninety eight.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm mixing up Mauser with Moses. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: excuse me. I thought you were saying, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually had a Mosing manufactured in staling God in
Speaker 2: nineteen forty two.
Speaker 1: I'm so pretty pe that's pretty palp.
Speaker 2: But that is also what I because it about took
Speaker 2: my fucking head off. As soon as that happened, I said, yep, nope,
Speaker 2: I'm not keeping this goddamn COMMI gun in my house.
Speaker 2: Then I got a captured Gumman uh called ninety eight,
Speaker 2: but it's stamped in Yugoslavia.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: I got it. I won it in a rifle.
Speaker 1: So that's dope. That's dope. But no, I mean I
Speaker 1: have I have a couple of a RS in my
Speaker 1: gun safe right now. I have a couple of ak's
Speaker 1: in my gun safe right now. I just if you know,
Speaker 1: push come to show. It also depends on what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: The AK, they say it's not as good at a
Speaker 1: certain distance as the AR. That's just because of construction.
Speaker 1: It's not the round threeh eight. It can be as
Speaker 1: accurate as as a fucking five five six. It's just
Speaker 1: about the weapon it's being fired from aks aren't as
Speaker 1: good as far as the head pressure's concerns and heavy round.
Speaker 1: I get this for my intents and purposes. Actually, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'll probably use my G three
Speaker 1: clone that I got. That bit is chambered in three
Speaker 1: eight as well. But she's she's fun. She's fun. But anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're getting way off into the weeds on some.
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie this. I'm actually trying my next rifle.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy. It's sitting out up at the gun store, uh,
Speaker 2: for about fifteen hundred bucks. It's a bar Ooh that's
Speaker 2: good ship. I want to get that and it comes
Speaker 2: over the bipod.
Speaker 1: Okay, damn dude. I was trying to get off the
Speaker 1: gun conversation, which also when you get that I want pictures.
Speaker 1: But I was trying to find if I pulled something
Speaker 1: up about the Kurds and I did not. I swore
Speaker 1: I had moved it on to this, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: But you know what, why not, We'll just move on
Speaker 1: to the next conversation here talking about the politics and
Speaker 1: the things Senate approves. Joshua Rudd as dual hat leader
Speaker 1: of cyber Command in NSA. Yeah, so this is the
Speaker 1: new guy who's in charge of our NSA, who's going
Speaker 1: to be spying on the American people, Old General Rudd.
Speaker 9: Here.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration has been more vocal in recent months
Speaker 1: about its use of cyber attacks and foreign military operations,
Speaker 1: with both the NSA and Cyber Command assisting. The Senate
Speaker 1: on Tuesday approved General Joshua Rudd to serve as head
Speaker 1: of both US Cyber Command and the National Security Agency,
Speaker 1: finally filling a critical military position that has remained vacant
Speaker 1: since last April. They approved him of a vote of
Speaker 1: seventy one to twenty nine, with some Democratic lawmakers objecting
Speaker 1: to his life of cyber experience. Rudd was elevated to
Speaker 1: the rank of general as a part of the vote. Wow,
Speaker 1: which you know you say that, but I see three stars.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like they went. He didn't become from a
Speaker 1: colonel to a three star because of a vote. That
Speaker 1: sounds a bit a bit off to me personally, But
Speaker 1: all right, okay whatever, or maybe he got moved to
Speaker 1: the rank of lieutenant general or oh wait a minute,
Speaker 1: now he's a four star. That's what they're saying, because
Speaker 1: it's brigadier major, lieutenant and then general, so brigadier general,
Speaker 1: major general, lieutenant general, and now general. So now he's
Speaker 1: a four star. That's what they're saying. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So he will serve as the first Senate confirmed the
Speaker 1: leader since President Donald Trump fired a General Timothy Haig
Speaker 1: from the position last April. Lieutenant General William Hartman has
Speaker 1: been acting head since the plan to retire once Rudd
Speaker 1: is sworn in. Trump nominated Rubbed Rudd to serve in
Speaker 1: the dual hat position in December. Rudd previously served as
Speaker 1: Deputy Director of US Indo Pacific Command and has decades
Speaker 1: of military experience, though none in cybersecurity leadership positions. Senate
Speaker 1: Armed Service Committee approved the nomination unanimously in January, and
Speaker 1: the Senate Intelligence Committee voted fourteen to three in favor
Speaker 1: of Rudd last month. Rudd garnered pushback from Senator Ron Wyden,
Speaker 1: which is a Democrat from Oregon Jesus, who spoke on
Speaker 1: the Senate floor multiple times against Rudd's confirmation wide and
Speaker 1: blocked the potential for a Senate voice vote last month,
Speaker 1: forcing a roll call vote on Rudd's nomination. Widen raised
Speaker 1: concerns about Rud's lack of prior military cyber leadership experience
Speaker 1: and his limited understanding of NSA surveillance authorities, which I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of the NSA spying on all
Speaker 1: of us. So this guy who doesn't have experience spying
Speaker 1: on the American people is now in charge of that,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. That could go very poorly. It might
Speaker 1: also be okay. I don't know. I guess we'll have
Speaker 1: to see. Widen again spoke at Rudd's nomination during a
Speaker 1: floor speech Tuesday before the vote, stressing that Rudd quote
Speaker 1: is the wrong person for this position, and if that
Speaker 1: if Rudd were approved, quote, it is all the more
Speaker 1: important that we passed legislation to protect against surveillance abuses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pot and kettle. During his separate nomination hearings before
Speaker 1: the committees, Rudd stated his intent to continuously assess the
Speaker 1: current dual hat leadership structure, which has been debated on
Speaker 1: Capitol Hill in recent years. Rudd also defended the need
Speaker 1: for Section seven oh two of the Foreign Intelligent Surveillance Act,
Speaker 1: a key data collection authority for the US Intelligence Community
Speaker 1: that is set to expire in April. Rudd also previously
Speaker 1: scrutinized the Chinese government's efforts to acquire advanced semiconductors from
Speaker 1: the US to use in its cyber offensive efforts. It's
Speaker 1: unclear when Rudd will formally be sworn in. Spokespeople for
Speaker 1: Cyber Command and NSA did not immediately respond for a
Speaker 1: quest on the comment. Okay, yeah, yeah, so there it is. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So that's the thing I figured, while we talk about
Speaker 1: all of the big things going on in the world,
Speaker 1: it might be important for us to talk about the
Speaker 1: new guy taking over the possible yeah no spy network
Speaker 1: for foreign and apparently domestic as well. So I'm hoping
Speaker 1: General Rudd does good shit with it. I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we are approaching the end of this episode. I did
Speaker 1: not check all the comments for a while. Good god,
Speaker 1: it was. It was wild over here. Apparently we'll see.
Speaker 1: Tony said, Islam has committee more than seventy thousand TiO.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: We talked about that earlier oil on the globe market.
Speaker 1: We can't escape it. Midnight cong said, I wonder how
Speaker 1: bad it would have to get to actually use the reserves, dude,
Speaker 1: same when it's no longer profitable for the douchebags. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty accurate. Also, as far as Trump goes,
Speaker 1: there are still plenty of people News Max, for example,
Speaker 1: who say things like trust the plan, he knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Don't worry gas prices they are going to
Speaker 1: even go even lower. Yet these people are just they're
Speaker 1: they're paid to say the things.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: What is Newsmax is a little biased?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Everyone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Royce had to take off early. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Tony says, the Kurdish preparations for war with Iran are
Speaker 1: so last week based on your Google reserts. Life comes
Speaker 1: at your best. Like I said, I haven't seen. I
Speaker 1: swore I have one pulled up, but I guess I didn't.
Speaker 1: I misspoke, But I don't know. We'll see if the
Speaker 1: courage do the legwork for us. So if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be sending US troops to Iran soil, I really don't hope.
Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't happen. But anyway, Spirit and Animal says,
Speaker 1: how they gonna have can they They're gonna have counter
Speaker 1: terrorism and units when they found when they fund terrorism.
Speaker 1: They're talking about the the Iranians using a counter terrorism
Speaker 1: group as the new Ayatola's personal bodyguard. But okay, anyway, anyone,
Speaker 1: all right, y'all. With all of this being said, we're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up this episode of The Cajun Night Live
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