Speaker 1: We're all owned by the Syndicate Body and Soul or
should I just say Bunny?
Speaker 2: Hello? Filthy movie lovers, Something Weirdos and anti Criterion Bros
to the forty first episode of the Sin Syndicate, where
trains are for running, gum is for chewing, and age
ain't nothing but a number. My name is Gentry Austen,
writer and researcher, and I'm here with my co host,
adult film historian Casey Scott, and this week's episode is
the continuation of a loose trilogy. We began with episode
thirty eight, Trodden Underfoot with special guest Jane Garrett, and
also its follow up episode forty Back to Marzano Land
with Nathan Schiff. The connective tissue here being producer director
Lou Campa, who both assisted and hindered Joseph Marzano, the
creative mind behind nineteen sixty seven's Venus and Furs, But
by the time we reached nineteen sixty eight, Marzano is out.
Speaker 3: Of the picture.
Speaker 2: Cam Scope Pictures appears to be finished, but Lou Campa
is still helping to churn out filth through the film
partnership known as Sinex Industries. So to help us out. Here,
we are once again joined by Toronto's very own Alex
DeSanto to talk about this era of Campa's career, with
a special emphasis on two films in the Baby trilogy,
Sock It to Me Baby, and come on Baby, Light
my fire.
Speaker 3: I could guess, is it da? This is the film
you've been waiting to see. You've heard about Suck It
to Me Now see Suck it to Me Baby coming
into this theater.
Speaker 4: I bet he be a deadbeat.
Speaker 3: Wait by a dozen of bees.
Speaker 1: By then I Sock it to me Baby.
Speaker 3: Just do whim old ladies, jeez.
Speaker 5: And she's a fraud. She's queer, she's a lesbian, she
likes girl.
Speaker 4: She's had Nie since that was fourteen.
Speaker 1: Socket to Me, Baby.
Speaker 3: But first let's do a few news and updates. We've
got Alex with us for the full duration here. Let's
start with the voices of desire Fly now, pay later.
But so we finally got to kind of see Casey
how this was going to be put together, and I
like it. Yeah, it's very loosely horotic themed. They've even
got the horotic trailer reel here put together. I'm assuming
by Lisa, and they've got a few shorts here maybe
we should talk about I think these are kind of interesting. Well,
first of all, we've got driving Miss Daisy Crazy, which
I'm not sure if AGFA knows the story behind this.
What can you tell us here, Casey this is and
Alex this is kind of abridged version of another District
Pix film.
Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, after the ball was over. It's just yeah,
it's all the good parts of that movie pretty much.
This was Yeah, it's like thirty five minutes. See, this
edit was at least originally released when Something Weird was.
Speaker 4: Handling the District Pix catalog.
Speaker 6: It was an extra on the Monster Go gosych by
the four D Witch disc. But it's owned by District
Pics and Hanka was not representing District Picks. That's all
I have to say.
Speaker 3: We're not throwing anybody under the bus here. Yeah, it's
just yeah, I'm not sure if they talk to District
Picks about this or if they got Steven's clearance, but
I would like to see you know, who knows when
that's gonna come out, if ever from District Picks. So
you know, it's kind of nice seeing a little bit
of it on here. But again. Yeah, I'm not sure
what the agreement was there.
Speaker 4: Have you seen it?
Speaker 6: Have you seen that full thing?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I haven't yet.
Speaker 6: It's bottomed feet er.
Speaker 4: It's fine if you like Suzanne Landau. It's her biggest role, right,
so yes, it's worth seeing if you like Susanne Landau.
If you don't like Susan Landau, then don't bother. But
I love Susan landeou.
Speaker 3: So doesn't like Susan Lando.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are people who don't like Susan Landow.
Speaker 6: In the exact same dre that she bore and kiss
of her flesh mm hmm yep, being her assed the
whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she pulls some great faces all the time. But
we've also got strange sex streams. That's another short that's
on here, which I don't know the story behind that.
I've seen it on numerous SWB complex.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's It's one of Michigan's many crappy little shorts
where I think the idea is they smoked weed. Now,
there have been strange sextremes. There's just a bunch of
naked people against the background drinking and smoking. To be clear,
Oh oh no, okay, even stranger Sex Dreams. Yeah, exactly, sorry, folks. Yeah,
that's a short one. And then Maniac Hospital, which is
from The Pill, right, Yeah, it's the surreal bed sequence
from the Pill. Yes, which was a short or if
this cut this thing was already on. I think it
was Doctor Gore. I'm pretty sure it was an extra
on the Doctor Gore Desk, either Doctor Gore once against
the for dy Witch one, but I'm pretty sure it
was Doctor Gore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember. I don't really pay attention to
the shorts if they're just excerpts from a movie. Yeah,
I don't have to pay attention to the shorts. Yeah,
I'm just like, I'll see the full movie. Yeah, that's
and my priority is always the full movie, not the short.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. But yeah, Frank Spencer is in that
Maniac Hospital short, and it kind of reminded me that again,
he's another guy whose credits online are just a complete mess.
He's in so much stuff that's not being properly credited.
You'll remember Frank Spencer if you listen to our Smoke
and Flesh episode. We talked about him a bit.
Speaker 4: He's in Cooler Baby and Miniskirt Love and Stuff and
something else. We did an episode on he was a
mainstay in New York's exploitation.
Speaker 3: M hm, yeah, he's grown on me quite a bit.
I'm a Frank Spencer fan. Oh okay, I'm not saying
I wasn't before.
Speaker 4: I mean he is what he shows up and he's nondescript. Yeah,
he's yeah, he's he's he's a white guy to show
up in these in these black and white movies.
Speaker 6: Basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's fine. And light My we'll
get into light My fire. Yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 3: What else about the release? Anything else to say? Casey,
how did you think it turned out?
Speaker 4: It's not good? Well, actually I forgot how not good?
I'm not great that transfers. But it's from like the
only print that's ever surfaced.
Speaker 3: The voices and of Desire one voices Desire.
Speaker 4: I haven't watched Pay Later. I have to because I'm
not prepared to review that yet. Basically I'm not watching
anything American's exploitation. Also'm going to sit down and do
like an in depth review of it, and I'm just like,
I have to take my time with that. But I
remember liking that one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I will listen to your commentary. It's great.
Even though your mouse started malfunctioning at some point.
Speaker 4: Did and it did today before we started recording. And
luckily I stole a wired mouse from work, so now
I won't have that problem.
Speaker 3: No more good good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no more wireless mouse for me. I'm tethered to
my computer now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, pick up the release if you haven't already
agged for something weird voices of desire Sandra Peabody, I mean,
that's the selling point. I've seen a lot of people
excited online about seeing her in an early sexploitation movie, so.
Speaker 4: Right, if I will. If we had known a little earlier,
I would have taken taken the plunge and and tried
contacting her, to be completely honest, because she has not
been contacted since I mentioned that in the commentary. She
hasn't been contacted since Dave Sulkan interviewed her from Last
lesson the Left book and that was God, that was
like ninety seven ninety eight. We're talking like almost thirty
years ago, so we're overdue. And I really want to
know more about Teenage Chit Checkers, which I think is
her best movie, hands down, is better than Teenageitch. She's
better in at the teenage che era Last Less Than
the Left too, So yeah, I still might. I think,
I don't know, we should do an episode on teenage
chit checkers. Actually, I really love that movie so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there was that Last House on the
Left documentary that came out not too long ago.
Speaker 4: She's not in that.
Speaker 3: She's not in that, but I was interviewed from Sulkan. Yeah,
I wonder if they tried.
Speaker 4: Yeah that No, at this point, like I keep running
into situation, I don't know, I feel like nobody tries
to get actresses anymore. To be completely honest, I feel
like I definitely try to get actresses. I feel like
a lot of supplement producers and in all genres, I'm
not trying to get talent anymore. They're trying to focus
on like historians and because they're cheaper. Yeah, so I'd
rather talk to people who made the movies, so please
please correct. They don't want to put in the work
to try to convince actresses to talk, even to their
stories would be much more interesting in hearing someone regurgitate
their story, like me regurgitating her story for versus desire,
not as interesting as it would have been to actually
hear from her, especially knowing that she was the star
of Chuck Vinston's very first feature film. I would love
to know what he was like as a director. It's like,
you know, I hope she's.
Speaker 3: Doing Okay, Yeah, it was. I just remembered it's David
Gregory actually made this documentary. It's celluloid Crime of the Century.
It's a sort of making of Last House. It was
from two thousand and three.
Speaker 4: So it was her anchor bay Uk he made that, Yeah,
and then Lucy Grantham's didn't. I don't think. I don't
even know. I haven't talked to David in Forever or
David sulkianen Forever, but I don't even know if he
has like an audio recording of that interview. I don't
know how you were interviewed her.
Speaker 3: Also, your wad came out. Have you been looking at
any anybody any reviews on that or anything.
Speaker 4: I've only seen one on Letterbox, which was very nice.
I don't know anyone else was interviewing it, which is interesting.
That is something then you that I'll just say that
you guys, well, Alex, you know this like sometimes you
need you these supplements and you hope that like people
are going to review it, and then they don't. They
don't review it, and then it's kind of like, well,
it's not like an ego stroke to get these reviews.
I would like feedback on my work, whether it's positive
or not. Like, if somebody's going to say, like the
recording quality was bad, I want to know so I
can fix that. If something that I say is not right,
I want to know so. But that's kind of the
nature of the Beasts that I've been doing for Vindergartner forever.
It's a lot of stuff that people don't review, so
it's kind of like and the company doesn't give me feedback,
so I have no idea whether what I'm doing is
good or not, so I get well, yes, that's how
I appreciated the Voices entire review you did on.
Speaker 3: The letterbox, which was I mean, to be fair, it
wasn't us really a review. It was just a little blurb. Yeah,
just like it's nice to reminder.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciated that you didn't have to turn on
but I know you do. Do you do review commentaries
on there, which is very helpful?
Speaker 3: Yes, But I've also been trying not to be too
critical anymore. Now that I do commentaries, so you know,
I used to be.
Speaker 4: You're not like me where I still call people out
in my reviews, where I call out people that make
mistakes or inaccurately.
Speaker 3: I will call it out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the only place where I'll
probably continue to do that. I don't think I'll be
doing that on here anymore. Come on, I don't think
I'll be doing that on here anymore. So go follow
me a letterbox if you want to see unfiltered casing.
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about reviews here. I mean these
I think are just being shipped out, so I think
some people haven't even gotten their releases yet.
Speaker 4: So right, we got lucky because we got our contributors copies,
which was very nice of Backfit to send to us.
And yeah, it was very nice, very nice.
Speaker 3: They sent us extra one so we could do a
little contest, we can give some way to our friends.
And yes, love it, Thank you, Agpha.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Ah. Now I'm like another company that we're
still begging for copies. Yes, okay, so I'm done with
the hot takes for this.
Speaker 6: No oh really, okay.
Speaker 4: We're Mark Murray actually posted about it already and had
no problem naming names, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 4: I feel you, buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I messaged him too. I was just like, dude,
you don't feel bad about saying it, Like you're totally right,
Like you deserve something for all the work you did.
Speaker 4: Right, And actually I have not gotten WAD yet, But
that is my fault because I have not asked for
my comp copy yet. See that's the thing I think
it's I think one would think it would be like
just automatic that you would get contributors copies, but you know,
their focus is on making sure that copies of people
are paying for or ship, so like if you're contributing,
it's just a nice little reminder of like can you
please send me a copy? Is kind of natural. So
I haven't done that yet for WAD, but uh yeah,
I'll probably email Justin about that he's been all over
the city and I haven't gone to any of the
events that he's been at. Otherwise I'd be like, can
I please let my copy of WAT bring it? Just
bring it with yeah or just yeah, I mean you
would save on shipping, just like just just give it
to me in person and we can get a picture
for the Graham.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, why not? Good promo and I like just anyway,
So yeah, the second one here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were supposed to allowed
to talk about this, but I heard that they mentioned
it on their podcast. So yes, we are going to
be on the two in a pink ou podcasts sometime soon.
I don't know when they're going to post it, but
we're going to do our little crossover on theirs since
they came on ours last year. That should be.
Speaker 4: Fun, right, And it's going to be Pride themed since
we have nothing for Pride schedules for our podcast.
Speaker 3: I know, so that's a good segue.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, you know what, we outnumber you in this episode.
Consider this our pride podcast.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're always being too prideful anyway, right exactly right here.
Speaker 4: We yeah, exactly. We don't need a whole month. We
talked shit anyway all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, that does bring up the conversation because I kind
of felt bad. I was like, well, I don't even know,
you know, what do you do for Pride month? For sexploitation?
I mean, there's a lord's good examples.
Speaker 6: Do you really want to do an episode on Chained Girls.
Speaker 4: No, but just the two of us, absolutely, just the
two of us.
Speaker 6: I know, I don't know why I was still thinking, yeah,
that's a really.
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, there's the two of us is great.
The meat Rock is great, Sticks and Stones is great. Uh,
she Man is great. Yeah, there's definitely good examples in exploitation.
Johnny Firecloud not sexploitation, but has a great, great, two
great characters in that. Yeah, and his gay deputy very
clearly is having an affair with him. Yeah, Yeah, there's
there's good examples. And also even just doing a film
by gay director, we could have done Voices Desire could
have done well, the Cats Away could have done Missus Barrington. Yeah, like,
there are definitely examples, there are definitely once we could.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do better next year. I'm sorry, but I.
Speaker 4: Sure we will.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: And there was something there wasn't there something that there
was something that I wanted to cover with Sarah Freebert
and I don't remember now, we were talking about that
because I love Farah, remember now, Oh, Sins of Rachel. Yes,
Richard Fontaine, you know gay porn legend made Sins of Rachel.
That'd be a good one to do it anyway, she
should do that, but yeah, there are examples. Shane Girls
is like, well, it's it's I enjoy it, but it's
not exactly the most progressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah. As far as like lesbian themed sexploitation, there's countless.
I mean there's lesbi it's almost every sexploitation movie. So
that's in my mind is like, well, what's a good
gay sexploitation movie that's not a hardcore you know, not
a hardcore movie.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, something we'd released nith Rack, Sticks and Stones, Yeah,
that's a good one as a double feature. Those are
both excellent. Six and Stones is like basically Six and
Stones is a low budget Boys in the Band. It's
shot on like Fire Island. It's yeah, Six and Stones
is terrific. Kim Pope is in it. Yeah, it's it's
it's really that's a really good one. Well yeah, but
just the two of us, Yeah, I would love to
do just the two of us. And also Barbara Peters.
Barbart Peters is interesting. I've talked to her several times
of the years on Facebook and stuff, and she's she's
iffy about doing full interviews, but she's very happy to
answer questions, so I could totally toss some questions at
her about that. She also one of the stars of
that movie. She later worked as like a script girl
or something on Barry Me and Angel, so it was
clear that she liked this woman. So yeah, I'd like
to know more. Elizabeth Knowles is in it, who's in trade?
Horny and a bunch of other stuff. So, yeah, that's
such a good one. I think that's on our short list.
I think I added that to our shortlist to consider.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, long list. Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Exactly, that's her touch. We don't really need to talk about.
That's under touches a little more. That's a little more problematic,
as they say, Yeah, even though it has Susan Bernard
and Dolly Reid, not the most progressive lesbian story.
Speaker 3: What about you, Alex, anything to add to that discussion?
Speaker 4: No case, he just did it all for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well you wanted to talk about something, Alex.
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know if I want to anymore because
I'm saving my energy to carry the rest of this episode.
Speaker 4: Well what are you giving? You have that little faith
and gentry?
Speaker 6: I mean, I have to really fight.
Speaker 4: Gent liner notes booklet about Sin x so gentry is
mister senex at this.
Speaker 6: Point, Can I really fight for people like Larry Hunter
and stuff?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are on your own with that. Yeah,
I'm not gonna happen for me.
Speaker 3: Well let me kick it off here because I also
saw another comment Mark Murray, you know he mentioned on
Facebook He's like, it really bothers me that I get
so irritated every time I see someone upscale low resolution
video file and call it h D or four K.
You know, we talked a little bit about this before
as well, with that silly count that we found on
YouTube that was upscaling all these exploitation movies too four
K and it's clearly just him throwing it through an
AI filter and you spit out this waxy monstrosity. And
again I've run into this with with eurocult films. They'll
throw you know. I was looking for a film the
other day. I found it on YouTube and it's clearly
just upscaled garbage and their faces are all waxy and
it looks terrible. And then I just look at the
comments for it and nobody is calling it out. It's
just like people assume this is how the movie looks,
and That's what pisses me off the most because people
are this is how I mean, their brains are now
being taught to see films like this, or to see
films that haven't been upscaled as like somehow lesser or
that's how films shouldn't look.
Speaker 6: Yes, and it also set like sets a more grim
precedent as well to start using AI and like restorations.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 6: It's also really good about calling.
Speaker 3: Out because he's in the trenches doing it himself, so
he knows how to do it right, and he knows
how much time it takes and how much effort. So
you know, he sees people throw this junk up online
that's HD for four K, which is not there's been
no work done, No human work is done on it, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what haunts me about the future. Are we
going to get classic films and stuff like that and
no one's actually going to be hand scrupping through these
damn things and just relying on No.
Speaker 3: I think people that are into like classic film at
least maybe it's a maybe it's an issue with just
YouTube because.
Speaker 6: With like little boutiques and stuff like that, you know,
especially now that you know cult Picks is now releasing
a full AI generated thing. That's what That's what I
was skipping over. Are their parent company just gonna now
because they set that precedent that they're okay with AI,
going to start using AI to like cut corners with
future restorations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm concerned about.
Speaker 6: That just because, like in.
Speaker 4: That situation, I am a little more not forgiving. But
essentially the way that that AI thing was set up
with Club super eight was, I mean, it was created
by another company and they're basically stepping up to distribute it.
And so the company and we talked about that on
our on our episode with them, where they just and
I'm I'm going by context clues of what the situation
is without them actually telling us. This is not inside info.
This is a hypothesis I'll posit, which is that the
company that did this is the company that bought the
Color Climax library, which we did discuss and they said
on our episode that they destroyed all the film elements
because of vcality and sea sam material because they were
a Danish foreign company that had no problems making films
with animals and children. So rather than we through all
of that stuff, they just destored all the film but
color Climax also did magazines. So rather than just restore
the films, which is what Mark Murray does, they are
now bringing the magazines to life to replace the films
that they destroyed. So that is my theory of what
that is, because just going by the images I've seen
from those magazines, it is very color Climax looking to me.
It's very Danish looking to me. So yeah, I'm hoping
that that this is a The response to this has
not been good.
Speaker 6: There's how many thousands of other adult films, including loops
and things like that, that you could be investing money
in towards actually restoring and bringing back to life than
this than what is essentially making dead people fuck with AI, which.
Speaker 4: I think is very crazy.
Speaker 6: Yes, we have a million better movies and things to
do than anime then make dead people fuck via magazines?
Speaker 4: Right, Well, you know, and it also made me think
of something some I'm not going to say where I
saw somebody suggest this, but someone said, well, you know,
we could potentially use this kind of technology to go
back to Tracy Lord's movies, use of age images of her,
and reinsert and of age Tracy Lords into her films
like Talk ruty Me three and Grafenburg Spot, which Grafenburg
Spot never happened because Mitchell Brothers is an out one
by dis A Pix.
Speaker 3: They would never that they want they would is that
the idea right there.
Speaker 4: So that they wouldn't it would be not it would
be not illegal because it's not a fifteen and sixteen
year old girl. It is an of age. Tracy Lords
like they could use an image from Not of This
Earth and just bring her to life and recast the film.
And I was like, this is the Pandora's box that
this is opening and that is not that is not good.
Speaker 6: It's still based on the foundation of a film where
she was fifteen years old. That doesn't take away from it. Yeah, no,
it doesn't at all.
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. And it's also but also Tracy Laws
is alive, so she has to then go through that
of having of having an entire career of hers that
she has been able to not discuss or acknowledge because
their sims are illegal now be resurrected because of AI.
You know, It's like it opens up a whole another
and also there are other actresses that are underage. Alexander
what's your face. I think Chrissara Barrington made some films
Gene Jennings Redoce devidance of Good Mister Reagan was underage,
Like it's a whole that basically think finding ways to
use that. And then I think that what part of
the argument was, well, this is great because people are
using AI to make see Sam material, and now we
can do it to like replace see Sam material and
use and make it with adults. And I'm just like
making the new materialselves. I think the problem is that
people are fine typing things out into the computer, but
they don't say them out loud to hear themselves say it,
and they don't understand how insane that sounds. That it's
really it's insane. And by the way, a lot of
those masters and negatives and stuff that the Tracy Lawyer's
movies are gone, so it's like we're not even talking
about even even if this was a logical thing and
Tracy Lord's signed off on it, they're not going to
look good. We're talking about using video masters. It's just
every every angle of it is just is just insane
to me. And yeah, it's easy to post them like
that when you're posting using like a fake name, you know,
and it's easy to post anything on the Internet. But
it's just yeah, I don't I don't like it. I
think that if it was viewed as like an experiment,
which I think is eventually what they eventually just started
describing it as when they realized that it was, the
backlash was bad. I think they decided this more of
an experiment, and it's like, Okay, great experiments can fail
and you move on, and you just that experiment didn't
work and we're going to move on. Yeah, which I'm
hoping that's the best move. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, because yeah, even Raf the Bat, even Wraf the Bat, like,
like the quote in Variety was like the dumbest reason
for it. We want to use the latest technology to
stimulate a discussion about attitudes to images that are now
half a century old, use latest technological scanners and put
out a book.
Speaker 4: Well also, they just restored a movie that's almost fifty
years old and put it out in blu ray and
it's getting major response. Like that stores success story for them.
You don't need to do that. Yeah, And that's not answer.
That quote also didn't make scess to it because they
didn't produce this. It was something that they're distributing. They had,
they were not involved with us, So it's it's weird
that they would stump so hard for something that they
really were not involved with it from all all insense
of purposes. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's also strange because they have they have Danish pornography
loops on their website on Cult Picks.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're color Climax. I'm sure they're from video
transfers of color Climax stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if you want to watch Danish porn,
it's on Cult Picks. You can watch it. Yeah, it's
not doesn't look HD, but that's not supposed to look it.
Speaker 4: Market Mark market any care of that. Actually, I'd love
to see Mark Murray do a Loss of Brown collection
because Loss of Brown's loops are like productions, they're productions
costume story. Like, Yeah, that would be great to get
a nice restored Loss of Brown collection, But that's the
kind of thing that I would want like Club Super
eight or this partner company to do, like if you're
going to do something that's focused on ther and also
like European porn in general is not being restored at
any kind of level of the American porn is being
restored at you know, so it's like we're not Alpha France.
I don't think they've been in Blu rays. If they have,
they're really under the radar. And they continue to cut
their movies so to put them onto a disk. So
it's like there's so much French stuff. There's German stuff,
the Josephine Mutzenbaker films, the Dangers Loss of Brown films,
like we there there is a market for the European stuff,
and so you don't need to recreate it. Just go
get the ship and restore it. Like I know that
it cost money, but yeah, that that's the EXPERI I
would have preferred that to be the experiment. We're gonna
do an experiment and we're gonna restore these loss of
Brown loops and put them out and we're gonna the
experiment is we'll see how this sells.
Speaker 6: That's that's you had so many better things to do, folks.
You had so many better things to do, yeah than that.
Speaker 4: And it's just a boomer because I love them, and
I mean we had them on the pod and they're
great and I love them, and I'll you know, I
they just ship my order that I ordered from them
before this all happened, So I finally get my Cumblow
of the horn finally. But it's just, yeah, it's draws.
It basically draws concerns about how on board they are
with AI. And I will also say, like, I know,
I don't see o CN distributing this because o CN
is very o CN as a whole, and that covers
Vinigerson and Melosin. He worked with an incredible network of
like actual artists, Tony the artists, was it Tony Tony
Scala that artists who just passed away like he did
a lot of work for them. He did a lot
of work for like Cinematograph and some other and other companies,
and he did major work for like Neon and other
other studios. And yeah, so o CN was very on
board with him. And they utilize like actual artists for
their slipcovers are like a major part of their brand,
and they're all done by actual artists. So I think
it would be not a great look if they and
I think I think they're very aware of that. I
don't think that there's enter in any entertaining this, And.
Speaker 3: No, justin La liberty. Yeah, he's very against AI in
creating art. Yes, it's not even a but yeah, like
you said, it's just it doesn't it's not great for
the club brand to even be associated with this because.
Speaker 4: And they use artists for their slipcovers too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a spin this whole industry even like right
right to restoration artists, restorationists, like the list goes on.
You are spitting in all their faces by doing this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just around.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's seting a super shitty president all around, like
it is what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I've heard from a few people that are
they're canceling their cult picks. I've heard a couple of
people say that obviously, like they would probably say, well,
it's just a few people, it's not a big deal.
But I just don't know why they're fighting fighting people
online about this. It's not even yours, you know, distributing
this for another guy.
Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 3: It's an experiment.
Speaker 6: Sustained a head injury to decide this was okay. Yeah,
that's the only logical answer.
Speaker 4: And it's a bummer. I wonder if that's why they
brought up the well Club super eight. They brought that
up for Color Climax stuff they brought up on their own,
but that was an I guess that it was color Climax.
They said it was a company, the famous company, and
I guess it was color Climax because I know my
porn Sorry, uh, that is the biggest that is the
biggest producer of pornography in in Europe at that time.
But yeah, it's just it's kind of one of those.
And also but also like in terms of magazines, you know,
Color Climax, the BC al And and c SAM material
wasn't just restricted to film. They also put that stuff
in magazine. So it's like, did you destroy those magazines too,
or do you still have those magazines? Just like these magazines,
it's like if you were selective about destroying the magazines,
and why weren't you selected about destroying the film? U.
There's just a lot of questions and I don't and
I would be asking them in good faith because I
generally want to know I'm not I wouldn't be asking
to catch somebody in like a lie or or trying
to like do a gotcha kind of thing. I genuinely
want to know the answers to the many questions that
I have, but I don't think that if I ask
them that I'm going to be answered in a helpful
way to move the conversation forward. I think it's going
to be very defensive, and I think it's going to
be very coming from, let's be frank, a capitalist motive
instead of thinking of it in terms of like a
moral motive. I know, talking about morals when it comes
to porn very iffy. But there is a moral way
to do this, you know, and that this is not it.
Speaker 3: And this thing is twenty six minutes long. I'm looking
at it at cult Pics right now. So it's like,
I think this was clearly just a way to get
in Variety and get their name out there a bit because.
Speaker 6: But in the worst way, because now you're doing.
Speaker 4: They were in Variety when they announced they were doing
partnerships with major international archives, like they talked about that too.
They're working with like the Hungarian Film Archive and the
Tie Film Archive and stuff like that's major. That's major
to like restore these films from countries that are not
getting attention for their film heritages, and now we're going
to be able to see them. And they're working with
these archives that have done this work to restore these films,
and they're going to be distributing them. So in those
film archives, I tell you right now, they're not using
AI to do those restorations they take. They're going back
to original the best sources possible. That's just not Yeah,
they they wouldn't be considering that. So it's they have.
There are so many other things they should be getting
pressed for, including this tie in to cume Blow the Horn.
That's like that's a big deal in Sweden, and it's
become a bigger deal, you know, and through social media.
But yeah, this is just it's it's a it's a
tainting situation and I'm hoping that they can rebound from
it and just be like, listen, this was a mistake,
you know, because I don't want to have to worry
about the amusing eye because they did. There was part
of that discussion was that, well, like, if the Sweden
Film Institute Swedes Film isn't going to restore it, we
have to do it ourselves. And so I immediately am
now concerned. If you have to do it yourself, yeah,
are you going to be cutting corners and doing this?
And if that is the case, and I don't want
any part of it because I think it's I don't
like it and I will never like it.
Speaker 6: And also this is my final thing at the end
of the day, because you know, this is the only
argument that it could have possibly ever had.
Speaker 4: But it isn't.
Speaker 6: Everyone with an Internet connection has seen that AI can
be very realistic and like completely accurate things like that.
We can't avoid that. This isn't even good AI. It's
not even good whatever technology they used, and it's that really,
it's that really shitty waxy ass skin tone, no killing
the hairs. Everyone's hair looks wet and greasy. You're doing
all this and saying your reputation for AI that isn't
even good. Yeah, it doesn't even look good. There's not
even a grain filter on it. It looks. This looks
like a third This looks like a shady third third
rate horn Sight did this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not even I have any because I don't want
to play it and give them a view on it,
so I can't know.
Speaker 6: Look at the screen caps, they're right there, the screenshots.
You can just see how awfulte least smeary this whole.
Speaker 4: I know I'm saving my ire for the company that
did it there. It's bad. It's bad enough that they're
distributing it. I think it's something they can rebound from,
and hope they can rebound from, because all the work
they've done prior to this has been exemplary and very
exciting and getting like, you know, we have the Nikatsu,
we have the Nikotsu Sweeden porno films, we have like
the big Andersen renaissances on the brink ready to burst.
I need more people to start talking about her and
we're going to see more of her films coming out.
I hope, I mean, and Christina Lindbergh, like, you know,
there's so much good stuff they're doing that I'm really
hoping that this is kind of like, Okay, this is
a mistake and we're going to go back to the
well and focus on the ship that we did, that
we're doing that is good work and stuff that we
should be proud of, because they should be proud of
all of that stuff, and it's just this flies in
the face of all of that, and I just think
I hope that social media responses, you know, accepted. I
hope that they are having a larger conversation about this
because it's you know, like if I found out I
would be this, I would be this way about anything.
If I found out that that, for whatever reason, UH
District Picks Society starts using AI to start restoring the
the Dave Friedman movies, I would be curious, like, what
are you talking about? What do you mean? You have
an in house scanner, you have the you have the
you can do this.
Speaker 3: What are you talking like applying an AI? Yeah, using
AI to upscale the s S you know, the S
video transfers or something.
Speaker 4: Oh, take me naked. Yeah, they decided to do that
for like the all we have as a tape of that,
or like if they decided, well, maybe we can bring
Body with Female to life using footage from lessing hours
and the images and the skills that we have, We'll
bring all that to life and then it will be
like Mike Finley's movies. He was like, no, it will
not be like that. It will absolutely not be like that.
Speaker 6: It's just like you do that to my milligans. And
I am literally going after yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine the Filthy five is finally finished because they're
just bringing it back from images of the press book
and shit like that. Yeah, it's like that. That's the thing.
It's like, and it's crazy because I'm thinking of these
as bad examples. The scary thing is that there are
people who will think of these as good examples of what.
Speaker 2: They can use.
Speaker 3: Start talking, and I'm telling you right now, I'm.
Speaker 4: Using these as an example. This is basically saying, you
know what, really great, I'm just going to run through
the streets and ship and they'll get me a lot
of attention. And it's like, yeah, and it's a biohazard.
It's bad for the environment. It's morally it's morally reprehensible. Right,
It's like it basically is the same thing. Yeah, it's
it's it's repugnifan for the countries.
Speaker 6: No, I just lost good drinking water because you want
dead people to fuck right.
Speaker 4: Still doesn't have clean drinking water, and we're still dealing
with Still. We're like, you know, they don't have clean
drinking water, but we still need more clean water to
handle these data centers. I'm really it's insane. Yeah, that's
a whole nother conversation. Yeah, Like if even if it
wasn't for the environment, it would just like the moral
implications are just so fucked. Yeah, I'm waiting for like
a major, a major party. Unfortunately, it be like a
major evil corporation to sue somebody and win, because there
needs to be a precedent setting case. For example, I
think Miyazaki or Studio Ghibli should have sued the pants
off of somebody using AI to create their Studio Ghibli
profile pictures and one, and then that would have set
the precedent. You cannot use trademarked or copyrighted material for
your AI. It's gonna take that. And that's how I've
had to scare. Like my favorite gay bar in town
has promoters that are using AI for their stuff, and
they got scared. They got sued for using a copyrighted
photograph in another flyer like years ago, and they got
sued and had to pay, And I said, do you
want more legal problems? That's the only reason they listened
to me, Otherwise they were going to keep letting the
organizers do it. And I said, do you want legal issues?
There's no precedent for this, So you're setting yourself up
for a lot of legal problems if this shit hits
the fan, which it's bound to start doing. Yeah, it's
it's not good. Every time I go out to a
gay bar, I have an argument about this because gay
people are basic. I said that during privlem Gay people
are like, but I want to, I want to look,
I want to I want to have a drawing of myself.
I'm like, if you were gay, don't know. If you're
gay and don't know an artist, what the fuck are
you doing with your life? You don't know one or
more artists. We are we are queer people. We are
supposed to be. We're supposed to be at the forefront
of arts, fashion, entertainment. You tell me you don't know
any artists that can draw you something, that can illustrate
something for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's get out of my commune way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know any artists. Get the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 6: No one cares. You want art of yourself? Get out
of here. Everyone thinks they deserve theirselves. Every little twinkie
queer thinks they need to art of themselves. No, you
don't know, you don't, you don't, you don't.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's where I'm at. Every time I go out,
I prepare with my parsonal my anti my anti personal.
Speaker 3: I salute you for fighting in the good fight. Thank you.
Speaker 4: It's very frustrating. It's exhausting, but it is. It's it's
kind of like I don't know, but I don't know.
I'm always see I said I was gonna say ship
this episode, and now I am. I'm that way. I'm
that way about everything. I'm that way about Israel, I'm
that way about Yeah, I'm that way about APAC, I'm
that way about you know, green energy, on that way
about trans writes on that way about everything because it should. Yeah, yeah,
this is a complex. It's not complex.
Speaker 6: It's not hard. Yeah, it's not hard. Tuplus two equals four,
Like this is just so simple.
Speaker 4: It's not complex.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I was going to say. Is it's
like I appreciate it because I think some people do
live in a bubble where they never get any pushback
on stuff like this. They're like, oh wait, you know,
what's the big deal. You know, everybody I see is
doing this and making these stupid AI art and flyers
and all this. Jonke. It's just like, yeah, somebody has
to push back so that they.
Speaker 4: Okay, well maybe your friends, well maybe your friend sucks, sweetheart,
Like sorry, so I have someone who try who is
trying to get my phone number? Brag And gave me
his business card and it had AI on it. But
and I throw it away in the space. I said, well,
this is not going to my wallet.
Speaker 3: What was AI on it?
Speaker 4: It was an AI imagine theself like an avatar.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: And I threw it in the garbage in front of him,
and I was like.
Speaker 6: The queer Committee AI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I'm not having this conversation with you.
I'm already turned off as enough as it is. I'm
going to excuse myself and go to the bathroom.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's it with both? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm ten days down on this ship. Like, I don't
entertain it. I'm too old.
Speaker 3: I respect that you put your morals over your libido. There.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's very easy when I find out that somebody
is like a Zionist or a Republican or yeah, or
a blue Maga or people. It's not hard heart. I
could throw the bricks like I'm throwing it at Stonewall.
I could hit somebody out my window right now. We
would bang. It'd be great.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not hard to move on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can afford to be picky in New York City.
I'll put it that way, right, Yes, I'll be.
Speaker 3: Let's move on one last item here. I saw the
exzuomed fest. Uh is gonna be screening a number movie
number five here, soft corese seventy sexploitation. I love Exzoomed
by the way, Yes, Exzoomed is great. I always love
their mystery screenings that they give little hints and you
kind of have to write down what you think it
might be. Yep. So I'm we'll be following and see
what that title is.
Speaker 4: And they're pretty good about including sexpectation. The one I
went one of the ones I went to in Philadelphia,
it was the last movie and it was the nineteen
seventy seven Cinderella and that was amazing, and there were
people who left because it was it's a long it's
a long festival. So they kept the sex for the
last and I was like, God, I'm glad. I waited.
It was like at midnight, and I was like, I
love this movie so much. And then they did a
three D fest. They did a three D fest and
they kept the three D movie secret, and one of
them was Love and three D. So I got to
see Christina Lindbergh in three D on the vig screen
and I was like, yes, thank god. Yeah, so they
have a Harry Garrow has a really good collection. I
will tell you anybody, if you get a chance to
go to an X Fest, you go. And also their
tickets sell out quick. Yeah, so yes, that is absolutely Yeah,
that's something I wish I did more often, actually, because
I always That's also where I saw, oh, what is
it five Fingers of Death for the first time on
the big screen. Uh, what else was in that one?
I went to Savage with James Inglehart, the Siria Santiago movie,
No Way Out, the Alan de Lan French Italian crime thriller.
Oh gosh, what else was there? Oh? The Face with
Two Left Feet, John Travolto, the Italian John Travolta rip off,
which now Severn's putting out that.
Speaker 6: Oh, people went.
Speaker 4: Nuts for that in the theater. That was great. When
Red Nick Miller, which just came out on Blu Ray
two for the longest time, that was impossible to see
and the had a nice print of Rednick Miller. That
is great. That's a really good one. So yeah, they
really program really brilliantly. They're not just picking random prints
out and run into the theater and showing them like no,
it's it's real programming. Like they know exactly what they're
doing and they're always in the right sequence. I think
they know when a movie is like when it's time
to have something maybe calmer, and then amp up the energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah so yeah, yeah, that one's playing at seven thirty
five PM.
Speaker 4: So that's really for that.
Speaker 3: It could be interesting. Yeah, maybe it's a little tamer
of a seventy six.
Speaker 4: It might be like a new world like cheerleaders movie
or teachers or nurses movies. True, I didn't think, Yeah,
the exportation in sanity all blah blah blah. Yeah. I
mean that's the kind of the funny thing. They give
you these descriptions of them, and it definitely makes you wonder, like, well,
this could be anything. It sounds great, I know, and
very broad. Yeah, they typically are.
Speaker 3: We will be keeping an eye, but well, wow, let's
talk about some loving in an hour.
Speaker 4: Let's see you look me up the AI discuss. The
AI discussion woke me up. Alex was like, do you
want to take a nap before we started recording, and
I was like, hey, listen, you get me angry. My
blood boils and I get I get energized. See I
don't need coke. I just need to get angry and
stuff just make me.
Speaker 6: We just need to trigger you pretty much.
Speaker 4: Bring up any you think to make me angry.
Speaker 6: Thank god, I have this on hand, Godi ship except
do this do that so close to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right next to you.
Speaker 6: I'm armed in case I need to defend your to
defend myself against this movie. With this movie, I'm ready
to hide mind.
Speaker 4: Actually I love that artwork. That's not going to work
because I'm like, beautiful artwork, shitty movie. Don't make me
think of Samantha Scott, though, Get a shot of her
and it'll trigger me. She's terrible, terrible implants. No, go, yeah,
she's Samantha Scott. She's in prison for killing her husband.
Oh yeah, that's her.
Speaker 6: I totally forgot. She's she's so forget what that was her?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly, worst implants ever, she's.
Speaker 6: Oh man, prison and brand of shame. What a great legacy.
Speaker 4: Had mistress she herself too?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, hardly.
Speaker 4: That I forget. She hangs herself really quick. Yeah, I'm like,
g gentle, that's what I care about and head Mistress,
I love her in that. That is something we need
to mention. The lustfle Turk and uh joys a.
Speaker 6: Jeh, gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Yes, we finally got we got a review from our
favorite website.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it was very nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love Nathaniel. I messaged him actually and thanked
him and he was like, oh, I love listening to
you guys. Yeah. You guys are always good, very good,
very appreciative.
Speaker 3: I'm not joking. It's my favorite website. When I say that,
I'm not just blowing smoke like I've been reading Mondo
Digital for so long. I don't know how he does it.
He puts so much care into these reviews.
Speaker 6: And the Rock Shock Pop are the only two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ian Jane, I do love you and Jane Yeah yeah,
uh huh. There used me a lot more when you
think about it. DVD Talk used to they had better
reviewers at one point.
Speaker 6: Remember driving thing I do.
Speaker 4: I do before.
Speaker 3: Driving?
Speaker 4: Right, it was me George Reeson, like three other people,
William Simmons who wrote like he was writing college essays.
That was a very interesting era. Yeah, but never show
up on on Manda Digital. I'm like, oh, thank God, Nathaniel.
Speaker 3: I know, like I said, because because it's not I mean,
it's sex film release, but it's not a hardcore sex
film release, so you know, you finally get to he
doesn't cover that, right, So sometimes he does.
Speaker 4: It depends if it's Metzker, he'll cover it. If it's
like Through the Looking Glass he reviewed. Sure, there's certain
things that he'll definitely reviewed. They have to be like
more crossover titles. And so that's why I like, when
I'm not on the talking I'm kind of like, oh, well,
now I won't have Nathaniel say my name. Saying a
name it's a big bomer. Yeah, So I don't know.
I'd love to have him on here though I've known
him for I've known him for so long. I've known
I've known people for way too long. If he was
the image when he started moving on to digital, and
that's why he didn't really review something weird stuff because
he was working with the company to put them out.
Speaker 3: Yep. If we can pry him away from doing commentaries
with Eugenio Erculani, then we can get him on the show.
Speaker 4: Oh that's something I was going to ask you. Actually
is is Eugenio and nepo. Baby, is he related to
Luciano Klani saying anything, No, different last name, They're not related.
It's Airly. Luciano Coli Isnarro's husband. He is Genio air Colani.
Different last name, I confuse.
Speaker 3: Them, but no. His his grandfather was in the Italian
film business.
Speaker 7: Yes, hm hmm, so interesting and his mother.
Speaker 5: Okay now was showing me now now, baby, really hurt me.
Speaker 1: You know you're an old bom sucking to me, baby,
what have.
Speaker 3: We got here? Where do we start? Alex socket to me.
Speaker 6: We're playing camp and arrest folks.
Speaker 4: This is it?
Speaker 6: You know, no would ever ever bring him up ever again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it would be a good idea to
do this, But I will.
Speaker 4: Also say I'm going to make an executive executive decision
for the podcast. Uh no more trilogies, No, no more. No.
I didn't have done one. We haven't even done one. Wishman,
we haven't done one Gary Graver, we haven't done any
grand place like there are filmmakers that well in one Star,
No one, russ Meyer, we've done no Metzker, which is fine,
but you know it's like three discussions and then once
you get into his biography three episodes touching this completely classless,
degenerate piece of ship. I'm just like, well, this is yes,
this is our this, this is this is our this
is our footprint, this is our podcast footprint.
Speaker 6: It's well, well, you guys asked what I wanted to do,
and I actually wasn't even that you guys had done
it before.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I really like this movie. I that
would happened, so the truth happened by accident. I thought
this was a gentry plan. But also I think the
greater I really liked this movie. A greater takeaway for
this is that, like I said in our chat, I'm like,
we have been doing campus stuff for like a month
and a half, and I'm just like, it is not yeah.
It's like, it's yeah, it's it's just not it's not
exciting or interesting to me. I will. That doesn't mean
I'm not going to be up for the discussion. It
just means that we've talked about him.
Speaker 3: Wow, we didn't talk about him too much with Nathan Schiff.
That was more Marzano.
Speaker 4: I mean he came up a lot in that conversation.
Are you kidding? We found out why he shut down
Venus in Furs. We found out how he tried to
set as a production. We talked and that was enough.
I didn't need to know anything more about him. After that,
I was like, Oh, he's just fucking wow.
Speaker 3: We talked about how he dumped Janet vanse Yeah, like,
wasn't great to hear that situation.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, And I think Sean Sean Langerck who
we talked about this. Yeah, we talked about it with Shawn.
I was like, I don't want to know any more
about this guy. Like he was digging into it and
I was like, Sean, I love you and I love
your research skills and I would die for you. But no,
no o, I don't want to know any more about him.
Speaker 3: Let's read Shawn's oh bit. Here's Sean's, which is Luke
Sewan he was He was born in Queen's nineteen thirty four,
and I don't think he ever moved out of the neighborhood.
There were scenes from Curious Teenager I actually shot one
block over. This is Curious Teenager is a very very
obscure Luke Campa movie that Shawn has seen. He goes
on to say he was initially an ambulance driver by trade.
He raced stock cars in the Lake fifties into the
early sixties, then became the big sleeze ball we know now.
He died in nineteen ninety seven the end.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's defending myself once more. I'm interested in
Socket to me itself and cinics, not lout. I love sins, Yes,
like this is my number one SINX title. Spy who
Came also would be a good conversation.
Speaker 4: Yes, but changes changes with SINX, so maybe be careful
with that. Yeah, we have changes. Changes is kind of
a master always. Yeah, that's the game changer.
Speaker 6: This pods subtitle. Okay, calm down, I.
Speaker 4: Guess changes in nineteen seventies. Technically sixty stuck in my head?
All right, Okay, I tried. That is something I will say, Like, Okay,
so nineteen sixty is technically the fifties. The sixties didn't start.
A decade doesn't start until the first year. The zero
is the last year of the decade. So sixty one
to seventy is the sixties. So maybe that opens up
more stuff for you to watch, Alex.
Speaker 3: One year more stuff, Alex, you were.
Speaker 4: Watching a lot of suff from sixty that's technically fifties,
so open up and start watching a lot of nineteen
seventy stuff, especial because a lot of it was shot
in sixty nine, so it's technically sixties too.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay about Sean's olmit there. You know, Alex,
you've done a little bit of research into Campa as
a stock car driver. Can you add anything to that discussion?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 6: Oh, nothing interesting because all I found about like, okay,
it's just all you can really find is just recaps
of races.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, like, oh, let's sit down with Lou Kampa about
his car or something like that. No, no, no, no, no.
The only thing they print is just, yeah, his car
turned over, he was out after the second round. Moving on,
This guy came up next and to there's nothing interesting.
The only interesting nugget Sean already found was that he
was an ambulance driver.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 6: No, there's nothing interesting about Lou Campu's stock car racing, folks.
So anyone who came here really hoping that we would
get into stock car racing, I'm very sorry. Okay, it's
not your it's not your lucky day. No, no at all.
Speaker 4: He just he raced.
Speaker 3: There are a couple of photos of him in his
little outfit, but yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 6: That's the only good thing photos.
Speaker 3: But it is curious that even in a couple of
the photos he is, the picture is credited Lou Campa.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and not the name we found of Luna.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: That's the only thing I'm curious about. Why you already
named it like you know in the adult industry. Yeah,
makes sense, But why you already Lou Kampa.
Speaker 4: This early on?
Speaker 3: Mm hm hmm.
Speaker 6: But oh, well you're dead.
Speaker 4: We don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 4: Had no he enough, no family. I don't know why
I'm asking. No, I didn't. I didn't check. I didn't
check myself because I don't want to talk to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't found anything.
Speaker 6: Haven't we check too much anyway? Yeah? No, Actually I
was looking more so into the like musicians of this movie,
not Lou Kampa. Yeah, Sinex and people like Darling Cotton
and things like that.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned sin X, but Lou was also involved
with cam Scope and then JRL Productions was Baby Light
My Fire. Do you know what the deal is with
JR L.
Speaker 6: I'm weird out as to why he would have changed
it to JRL because both those films are with Sinex.
Speaker 4: It's most of the same people.
Speaker 6: The only big difference between U and Light My Fire
is Charles Carmelo was really involved in Light My Fire.
And then from then on it becomes very more integrated
into sin X. Like right after this he does the
Master Beater, which Lou is credited for executive producing.
Speaker 4: And so said j g L. He was the name
of the production r j r L j r L
normally Religio. That's a there we go, he's executive producer.
Actually executive producers are John Liggio and Ralph Desmond. Yeah,
there you go. Actually j R L, John, Ralph and Lou.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I actually thought like were they also involved
with SINX? Were at all three of those people?
Speaker 4: Also, sen X was a distributed distribution company, not not
necessarily the production company.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And and and also like my lit My Fire is
distributed by sin X. Yeah, yeah, the production company is
not necessarily the same as it is the distributor. Yeah,
And like there are different there are different taxes involved
with being a production company versus a distribution company. So
and knowing Lou being a super Sleeds, I'm sure that
had something to do with it, Like cam Scope is
obviously campus Scope for three of those movies. And then
I don't I think he realized that he couldn't do
Ship by himself, so he had to get other partners,
and so that led to.
Speaker 6: Another company, another company, very much. Yeah, you normally don't
take the old company with you. You just form a new.
Speaker 4: One, right, right, and a lot of stuff. But it's
also like whatever, I'm sure that wasn't like a public,
publicly traded company established an established Yeah, an established, like
you know, independent whatever theirs are called.
Speaker 6: No, No, absolutely not. Yeah, I don't know how involved
in the next John Lego was I Okay. What was
really annoying is that there is a more prominent John
Lego in the history and he's a teenage Satin Island
actor obviously not this guy. This guy when was her
teenager sixty seven?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can't be him them what?
Speaker 6: No, this guy's at a Catholic No, his his his
dad was a barber who died in sixty seven. Uh yeah, no, No,
this John Lego is a big He was involved in
this mysterious All Film Enterprises company that Phil Peresy started.
Speaker 4: Up and nobody did. Actually, they were involved in a.
Speaker 6: Couple films, this little thing. Because Sean reached out pretty
much just to add context people. Sean reached out and
set found these two articles about the formation of this
production distribution company called All Film Enterprises that Phil Perice's
started and Lou Kampa was another head in it. At first,
didn't seem like they had even done anything, but no,
they put out Marital Fulfillment and Ali they say for
some reason. Here here's what the article I found is,
I'll just read it out. After launching Marital Fulfillment, All
Film Enterprises plans to concentrate on an annual release schedule
of six to ten features for which they will produce themselves,
which with budgets averaging around fifty thousand, yeah, they absolutely
will be spending that much. Company has been has a
batch of acquired sex sploiters in release, including oddly enough,
Come On Baby, Light My Fire, which I don't think
they did, but Electronic Years did seventy. This is this
article is a variety May thirteen, nineteen seventy. Come On
Baby came out in late sixty nine.
Speaker 4: When did Senex get taken over by Delaimos?
Speaker 3: Though I want to say so, because it's possible.
Speaker 4: It's possible that they had they shed all the pre
all the pre Dilaymos stuff from Senex in order to
move on, and so they might not have They might
not have had come I'm gonna be Light in my
Fire as a Senex release for that long before that
legal issue. And that's why All Films was able to
distribute it, because it wasn't Oh yeah, you're right, that
was It was sold.
Speaker 6: In December nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so it was barely out then, yeah, okay,
barely well, so that and that also makes sense because
I don't think Campo was really involved with Senex after
a certain point either because Deleamos I'm sure didn't really
want to deal with his ass.
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly so, So so he moves over into this
All Film Enterprises, John Legio was the general manager. Things
that they were supposed to produce was Forbidden Fruit, a
study of pornography in America by Ford Sebastian, and I
wonder if that ended.
Speaker 4: If Red, White and Blue.
Speaker 6: This did not, I exactly as I'll say, because by
nineteen seventy one, like All Film, seems to have died.
Phil Pereis's over with Brianston. So did Ford take that
project and make all Red, White and Blue?
Speaker 4: I bet because Marridi fulfilment is Ford. So if they
acquired that for all film whatever and it was a
third one, then that's possible, and then he eventually knew
that he could deal with Friedman easier.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like Freedom wasn't involved. I don't.
I think Freedman was involved producing that, So I feel
like maybe they produced that independently and then sold it. Well,
they didn't sell it to Freedman because then they sued
something weird for putting it out discontinue. I think they
sell the rights to it.
Speaker 6: Well, Friedman didn't. He only had it for theatrical for
limited amount of time. That's how he had so then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember yeah, so essentially basically like Elphins were in
his library, but he didn't own it. Well, it's just
that print. I don't even think it was a negative.
I don't think. Trying to remember now, but that makes sense.
Then So then if if they said they were going
to help finance it, and then Ford was like, you
know what, pass, well, just fine as this on our own,
and then uh and then licensed it to Freedman or whatever.
Speaker 6: I guess something fell through because this company was formed
in nineteen seventy and Philip Precy left it by nineteen
seventy one, and there's no other mention of it anywhere
else past nineteen seventy.
Speaker 4: It's almost like Kampa is they.
Speaker 6: Can't is the problem?
Speaker 4: Camp I can't work with people. It's almost like camp
I can't work with people.
Speaker 6: Interesting, Yeah, I would have thought.
Speaker 4: Would have left a Branston actually though, But considering that
his his well, his claims to be tied to organized crime,
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, any but anyone I've heard that to cooperate
that rumor? Isn't every infactual other things like? No, I've
never heard anyone reliable cooperate that, right.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of Italian people will claim to
be connected with them all because who's going to deny it.
I was going to research that.
Speaker 6: Oh no no, no, no, no no no. Being half Italian,
I can completely confirm that Italian old man love to
just yeah yeah, yeah, fun.
Speaker 4: Thing to like. It's a nice fun like bragging, right
or something. It's that can be like a threat, you.
Speaker 3: Know, well he yeah, apparently he did use it as
a threat.
Speaker 6: According to Shift, Yeah right right, terrible, terrible, Yeah, no, no,
I don't think any bobsters what even wanted to put
up with Campa, Like I just.
Speaker 4: Didn't want to deal with well, they just say know
they were just like you're you're a lot. Well, just
we don't need to deal with this. Do we need
someone who's gonna say yes to what we want and
not you know, try to take control of shit. And
based on Marzano's experiences with him, it's like Campa was
campus seemed like to he had a he had to
have a sense of control at some point, which wasn't
there for cool Baby, but eventually it became more of
like a control thing for him. And then working with
what Charles Carmelo, Charles Carmelo totally, yes, man, I mean
Carmelo finished legacy of Satan. Was that Carmelo because Domiano
was fired off of the Legacy of Satan, he didn't
even finish it.
Speaker 6: Was involved in Briante, right right.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I think he he was much easier to
work with than Domiano was, because you know, Doniano at
some point was kind of like, you know what I've
had it, so yeah, I think I think it was
Carmelo who finished that a legacy of Satan. That's why
his name on it.
Speaker 6: On his to Brianston after Sinex was sold.
Speaker 4: That makes sense. And Delamos, though, I would love to
know what happened see Delamos, I'm much more interested in
than camp especially because he started like from nothing in
Boston and the mirrors brought him in and then he
did that terrible kidne in a cage and then somehow
thought sin X would be a good a good business
venture after it tanked. Yes, I'd love to know what
happened to him. That's someone I'd like to I should
research more. Especially.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only thing I'm curious about is this film
Artist Funny enough is this is Artist Studio Secrets and
how all these guys got involved and then it broke
off for a little bit because there's a break. Yeah. Yeah,
it has like our CEO Secrets, awful film folks. But
Campa produces it out of the blue after stop car
racing and appears in it all that, I swear, I swear.
Where's the credit the director of that film?
Speaker 3: What was his name was? JH?
Speaker 6: Yeah, who also stars as the leading guy. Looks a
lot like Larry Crane, heavier Larry Crane. I'm still I
don't know whether to die on that hill if that's
Larry Crane or not. Yeah, that might be him. Carmelo's
also involved in that one, and as always Bill Lester
is involved in that one.
Speaker 4: Then for some odd reason, they all split off and
some of.
Speaker 6: Them just disappear for a little bit. Yeah until until,
like like Alex was saying, Kembu pops up again, he
was somewhere behind the scene, Like where where do you
go once you're in this business and come back to
produce three films?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe non film stuff, Yeah, just doing some shady non
film stuff possible.
Speaker 6: Maybe, or again, just somewhere behind the scenes trying to
set up shitty corporations.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: That kept falling through, like we don't know, unfortunately, but
somehow he finds the money two back three films.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you, like, how involved do
you think Campa was in Soka to me baby? Do
you think that was like his baby, his baby through
and through?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get the feeling it is. It's a very
camp of film. But if you ask me as compared.
I mean, we're getting back into the I feel like
Camp is the only one actually that I can think of,
who had his films concerning besides Comma, Baby, Light My Fire.
Sex with adolescents starts off in miniskirt Love with seducing
a little boy. Now we're into Socket to me and
we're getting gross with a teep with a fifteen year
old girl, and then come on, Baby is also just
nasty and odd, but in a different in a different
ass way, kidnapped being.
Speaker 3: This more age appropriate way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in a more age appropriate way. But it still
has some gross stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, so much gross stuff. I mean
Larry Hunters like playing you know, brown face, uh, Mexican stereotype,
like jerking off on his poncho.
Speaker 6: Uh, and water sports as well, give me another exploitation
fil Yeah. So it's all like all the canvas direct
troll stuff is the same gross stuff in one way
or another, just occasionally shot better than others.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, manskirt lover shot way better than this. This
is this had multiple sequences, long sequences out of focus,
and I'm just like, yeah, this is the one. This
is a step down.
Speaker 6: One of the things that I will say, Yeah, what
happened you made? Why did you put Bill Lister on
sound when he already showed that he could shoot things? Fine,
where's lou waldeck bh style? You know, pH style shoots done?
Speaker 4: Was like, I'm not doing this show. He was, okay.
It's like I've had enough, Alo, I'm not dealing with
him no more. And I'm like, yeah, that's what happens.
Your quality drops because you piss off people who know
what the fuck they're doing exactly.
Speaker 6: And the mysterious Beach Dial shoots Light My Fire, which
isn't as good as Waal Deck's work, but it's definitely
not It's definitely a step up from this guy. Uh
Dan McCann, whose only other credits are once again another
Oh yeah, Larry Crane. I keep on, I keep on
mixing Larry Crane. I'm gonna be mixing Larry Crane and
Larry Hunter guys throughout this episode.
Speaker 3: Who also Larry alsoeer and director. Yeah, Larry Hunter. The
greatest living sex living I hope, yeah, not living.
Speaker 4: Jesus, stop it.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, stop that talks to him. I love
Talking'd be like he'd be like five years old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 6: Oh well, I faided him, let me go. Yeah, but
the camera work is shooting the worst Larry Crane films.
Technically all women are bad and love hate that moment, right,
So why did you pick this guy to shoot Socket
to me? Baby? You have so many better people. Maybe
that was it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he would do whatever lou told him to do.
It wasn't he was. It wasn't gonna deal with a
Marzano or somebody who was gonna tell him I have
to frame this correctly, or I have to set up
the lights correctly. It was just some guy like, yeah,
she will do whatever. Yeah, Like that's what happens when
you're not working with technical professionals.
Speaker 6: If you ask me, the lights are the lights aren't
horrible in some of this, but like it's it's a lens.
You can't even focus a lens.
Speaker 4: Are pot in a shot with like one outdoor security light?
Like it's just like it's so bad. No, it's it's
very it's very badly photographed.
Speaker 3: What about this Ronald Edwards who is apparently the writer
on both Uh, Socket to me and come on, baby,
it's a real person. We don't even know.
Speaker 6: It was just trying to.
Speaker 4: Why would why would we know that? We've been doing
this too long for to be asking. So this random
personally has two credits, like what do we know about him?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 3: It's what do you think we know about him?
Speaker 4: That's like so smith like he did this.
Speaker 3: It doesn't help that his name is, yeah, Ronald Edwards.
That certainly doesn't help.
Speaker 4: What else would we possibly know?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 3: Else is dug up from some like.
Speaker 4: I would be wildly impressed if you've found anything more
of Ronald Edwards.
Speaker 3: Nothing on Ronald Edwards?
Speaker 4: Right, No, no, no, don't either, because we don't have
a goddamn clue.
Speaker 3: No tragedy, tell me everything.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's terrible. Oh but to me, she's
fascinatingly terrible. Yeah, she's trying to go this. She could
and she's not. She could have been. I even like
Patty Wymer and the babysit are better.
Speaker 3: Oh No, she's way too awkward to be a Stacey Walker.
She's no confidence.
Speaker 6: I think she's wonderfully awful, But I love that. I
don't know why.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I prefer the girl from the
Alley Trent better than her. Yeah, Like, no, if you're
going to be endearingly awful. Be endearingly awful. What is it?
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 4: Gentry? We Gentry and I agree, be Camp own it
and she does not own it. Dissy Donovan would have
in this role, actually would have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, put her hair in pigtails. Yeah, Dixie and Donovan
if Luke.
Speaker 4: Can't but deserve any of those girls though, No, that's
why they are stars in this I think he That's
the thing that's when you think about it.
Speaker 6: I love Larry Hunter.
Speaker 4: No women man are men are not stars or exploitation.
We're going to have that conversation. We'll have that conversation.
Expetation is about the women.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it is. But except for Larry Hunter. No, no, no,
I'll fight with Larry Hunter. I'll fight for Larry Hunter. No,
fight for Larry Hunt on.
Speaker 4: What, based on what.
Speaker 6: I don't care. I'm gonna because I love him. It up.
I don't care if you think.
Speaker 4: You are you you think he's terrible, I answer Cargo.
Speaker 3: Listen, okay, Lucky Cargo. I will give you Larry Okay.
Speaker 6: I can't stand Lucky.
Speaker 3: Larry Hunters like the Robert Downey Jr. Of exploitation.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Gentry. No, no, maybe not Robert Downey,
but he is. Shane is a Robert Downey Jr. Of exploitation.
Thank you New York. Though in New York, no, Frank
Spencer is the Robert Downey junior of New York's exploitation.
Speaker 8: He Spencer, he was, he gives nothing. Frank Spencer, just
cut Frank. Frank Spencer can't emote Larry Hunter. Think of
good not well, I'm trying to think of a good
Frank Spencer ever. Could Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 4: Because he's he's not young. He's more like he's the
George Kennedy of New York's expectation. M hmm. And that
you can't believe that he won an oscar? Who did
you say? Okay, George Kennedy. He's like George Kennedy.
Speaker 3: That's a little too old now maybe a little younger. Yeah,
maybe like a method actor, a modern method actor.
Speaker 4: You're really giving him a lot on him. Oh my god, Jesus,
he's John Alderman. This isn't John Alderman. But like John
is a talent. Oh you know what is he's a student.
He's at Lancaster. Is too old too. See, I'm trying
to think of like New York has nothing, Casey, there's
no true are you kidding? Shep Wilde was working at
this time. Alex Man was working at this time. Man's
just pretty. He's just pretty. That's it. Uh, he can't either. Actors.
Frederick Forrest was acting at this time. He was in
One Little Thing for and Anthony he was working at
this time. There are so many other people working in
stage at that time. Larry Hunter, I could see being
rejected every audition for a play in New York.
Speaker 3: No way, No, he's terrible.
Speaker 4: He's terrible. I'm sorry, he's not good, He's never been.
Speaker 3: I love it, though.
Speaker 6: I'll happily keep done on this hill. Okay, moving on.
Speaker 4: Which is crazy. You're gonna die on the Larry Hunter hill. Yes,
I love which is insane.
Speaker 3: The thing about Larry whenever Larry Hunter shows up in
a movie, he makes it better.
Speaker 4: That's that's my Yeah.
Speaker 6: He makes everything more rantaining because he's putting everything into it.
This sporting house, the John in the sporting House, like there,
I can think of a bunch of other ones.
Speaker 3: Get gets kicked in the balls and sporting house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I love that.
Speaker 6: I love my Actually murders the French girl in this Yes,
I love him in this sporting House.
Speaker 4: No, thank you. I'm still trying to think of a
good comparison. Yeah, you're right, Kennedy's too old. You're right.
I'm trying to think so funny enough.
Speaker 6: Lou Waldeck did leave after those three films. I just
found him in Sugar Daddy shooting that. That's why I
want his Sugar Daddy.
Speaker 4: But that's Larry Crane, right. Oh, Cap did make that too, right, Yeah,
I produced it. Well, it's possible that was made, but
that might have been made before soccer to me, baby.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just correcting you
about after the three films. Lou Waldeck didn't.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, that's all. That's all. Oh no, that's
all I'm saying. That's all by the time he was gone. Yeah,
because he didn't get back.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, Sugar Daddy definitely came first. Also because
songs and Sugar Daddy are recycled in this movie.
Speaker 4: Ah, okay, that the Devil was that? Where does Devil
and Velvet Fall?
Speaker 3: Oh that's sixty seven, that's not even sinex box office.
Speaker 4: Oh, we're we're focusing on Sinex. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're right, okay, right earlier.
Speaker 3: Then, well let's talk about the music, because you said
you were looking at some of the music for Soccer
to me.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was. I mean, I was just trying
to find stuff about Darling Cotton because I don't know,
I don't like Soccer. To me, the song for some reason, I.
Speaker 4: Really like terrible Yeah that song, and down by the River,
which is in the trailer, I'm like, okay for for
a lump me, I'm like, okay, all right, Not that
I tried to find them about.
Speaker 6: She was just a little she didn't do much. He
was a little actress and singer who was And you
know she's she has that great dancing in Sex Perils
of Paulette, right, she is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: But it's curious that she's not an actor in this movie.
She just does the music.
Speaker 4: She's just no. Yeah, you think she's gonna be in
this movie?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You think she performs?
Speaker 6: She performs the Sugar Daddy. She was more involved in that.
And then I'll know how on earth Luke Kampa like
it drew her in just to do well then it's
not a good song anyway, Like like was he just
like can you just quickly do this theme song.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think of what the connection is
because like the last before she did this, well, she
was the big thing that I know were from She's
the she was the choreographer on Teenage Gang Dance, So
the black Belt Dance is completely her creation.
Speaker 6: The connective tissue between this is Sugar Daddy, right, But
then then now she get involved with that, probably Larry Crane, Larry,
because I feel like Larry Crane wrote the songs. Larry
Crane wrote the song, she performed them.
Speaker 4: Ah but Larry, wait, how was Larry Crane connected to
Teenage Gang Dance or anything else she did? I'm not
I'm trying to find that, Yeah, because I know, like
she did sex Girls a Paullett, which are shot by
Chuck and then Chuck with c I P. And then
c IP and Chuck did Teenage Gang Deps So that
makes sense. But yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder if.
Speaker 4: Estancially Yeah, interesting, Okay, I mean she's substantially like she
had a career, you know, He's so.
Speaker 6: I have as of her performing live at like clubs
and things like that. She did have a small singing career.
Speaker 4: So I'm just kind of like, why is she involved
with this piece of ship. It's just like, oh my god,
yeah it's I don't know, and using her real name too.
It's like, at least at least don't put your name
on it, you know.
Speaker 6: Again, I really feel like loose and outconder into do
quickly doing this silly song which is just her going
stalking to me, baby, talking to me, baby, talking to
me baby. Then she wore, now try to out of
Is there sixties way to block people's numbers?
Speaker 4: Change your number? I don't know. I don't know. It's
very strange. I wonder if it was it might have
been a promise of like a bigger payday than he
was going to give her. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe the thing that I found weirder is that
is okay. The Year two thousand is a band that
was based out of Florida, and the two songs they're
credit you can find those. They're from Cheetah in Perfect Love.
They are probably to the best tracks in this as well.
Those came out in sixty eight in their only album,
A Musical Odyssey. I'm not sure if you actually got
permission to use it, that's the thing I'm like. But also,
why would you credit them if you stole it?
Speaker 4: Right? So that's very confusing. That's interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the two great psych rock instrumentals in this that's
from them.
Speaker 4: But well, I wonder if it was a situation, Like
there's always connections with in New York and Florida. So
I wonder if maybe he like had a family member
in Florida who was involved with like their music career
or something and was like, here, put this in your movie.
Crazier things have happened. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and whoever sung that? The the one that's bothering
bothering me the most because I like it. You wouldn't
say what you want. I'm really preparing myself for this episode.
Speaker 4: Now say what you want.
Speaker 6: But whatever that rock that little song is at the
end where the teenagers are dancing to when he wakes
up in the bedroom, nobody cares what happens.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 6: Anyone out there who knows anything about that, please hook
me up.
Speaker 4: I want the Shazam wasn't helpful, No, no, sometimes it is.
Sometimes it surprises you.
Speaker 6: But no, yeah it's not. It's not credited, so you
might have stolen it.
Speaker 4: Is it not? It could not be another song from
that record that we just don't know. Oh oh, you
listen to the whole thing.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, lesson.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I could think of. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's the only song that's not credit to Darling
Cotton or the Cheetahs or your two thousand chetas. Yeah
you're two thousand.
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, yeah, okay. Interesting. So wherever that what if
it's a record that Darlene I wonder if it's a
record that they recorded as like a demo.
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know her voice.
Speaker 4: Darlene's just like, oh yeah, maybe not maybe the other
maybe the band then if not her, that's like the
garage BANDY did the music for all the Cooler Baby
Venus and Furs and means Your Love there. That was
like an actual band. Apparently it was. I don't remember
what Nathan said, but it was a real band. He
knew the name of them. I don't remember who they were.
Now I'll have to go back to this of that episode.
But I'm like, oh, I need to find more recordings
by that band, because I love the Garas music and
those I would have loved to hear it in this actually,
like that would have been a nice little continuity across
the board. But it's kind of like it's like it's
almost like that music is like Camscope only it's like,
let's start fresh with something else, right, Let's not do
the good music from from the camp Scope movies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, even none of the stock music that's using those things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very strange.
Speaker 6: What did you forget these tracks? We switched offices? Like
where did these all these recorings go? We're just Sex's fold.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of music, I mean both of these movies
are based on their capitalizing on hit songs. Is there
anything to say?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: I mean, actually I would have loved to be a
just stolen the Mitch Rider and the Detroit Wheel song,
and nobody listen, I'm gonna say it, I say it now,
and I'll say it about then. Nobody was suing nobody
for including stolen music and movies at that time.
Speaker 6: I'd most say led Zeppeling.
Speaker 3: I mean that was like the number one song for
a long time.
Speaker 4: It was like nobody, nobody from the record company was
going to go see this be in a sluzy theater
and then have to admit that they saw it and
then make That's that's the reason why a lot of
these producers were like, ye know, we can just put
whatever we want. At some point they realized, well, we
could do what we want because nobody's gonna do a
damn thing about it. So he could have totally done that.
That would not have been a problem.
Speaker 3: That would have been funny.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I think because a lot of people
who weren't doing it were from like studio background, so
they knew that you technically could do it. But then
once you had people who were not involved with studio
backgrounds or Hollywood background, so we're just like, I'll just
drop a needle on like my favorite hit records and
it'll be fine, don't worry about it, And it was
nobody's had a damn thing. Yeah, So that's one of
my favorite things about these movies are the stolen tracks,
except when you can't find them, and then it's really frustrating. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what pisses me off the most about this movie.
Speaker 4: Actually, Gentry, I dare you to put the Mitch Rider
song on this episode.
Speaker 3: No, I won't, but I will.
Speaker 4: You too. Well, I'll let you do that.
Speaker 3: I will flip the other ones. Thoy'll probably yeah.
Speaker 4: Light my fire, right, do the do the do the
Jose Feliciano version, not the doors one. I like the hos.
I like the Feliciano version to all right, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean clearly he's you know, whatever got his
ear to the ground of bits here.
Speaker 4: Just well, that's why Devil and Velvet maybe should have
been Devil with the Blue Dress another mitch Rider song.
That would have been great.
Speaker 6: Oh they didn't. They did.
Speaker 4: That was their first I think it was one of
the earlier ones. Devil with the Blue Dress on was
mitch Rider too, That would have been better than Devil
and Velvet.
Speaker 3: No bad for Sunday will be, Monday will be he said,
O bad?
Speaker 4: I wa.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 6: Devil in Velvet and as a whole is such a
weird movie. It's a courtroom procedural where the mart the
marquis is on trial. But it's a comedy. It's it's
not sadistic movie. It's like played for laughs.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm kind of into that is No, it's no, he's.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm just based off of one of those
oddly detail which is oddly detailed. But yeah, it's very
obviously played for laughs. And I don't know. I don't
find Larry Crane funny interesting.
Speaker 4: So I have my opinions on one Larry, and you
have your opinions on another. Interesting Yeah, funny. I have
still haven't seen Who Are the Black Widow, so I
can't say whether is funny or not. And Private Relations
I've not seen it either, so.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I don't remember laughing out loud it.
Speaker 4: Wait, isn't Private Relations? Isn't the one that you put
clips of of Ericsson doing dialogue?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean it's a good line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not because it's supposed to be funny,
just because it's uda being cute.
Speaker 4: Well, right, I would, I would, Yeah, exactly, I would.
But see that's the thing, the way you are with
Larry Hunter on the way with already don't ever come
for I will die ericson hill. Yeah, we would never Okay,
give me the same respect god, ok Now, I would
never respect a man or a woman. Are you kidding? Funny?
Speaker 3: Because yeah, Larry David actually Larry David, Larry Crane actually
had a background in like performance and touring, and like
I said, we don't know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did. OK about Larry Hunter. I was like,
we don't know that he was a professional act Larry Hunter.
We know nothing, but I tried.
Speaker 3: But we know a bit about Larry Crane mm hmmm,
his background, so which is interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad we know that. But yeah, it's weird
that we don't know anything about Larry Hunter. It's kind
of strange.
Speaker 3: He was in quite a few movies.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why where we don't at least know
some more info about them. Yeah, there's not very strange. Nothing,
nothing right. It's almost like nobody was interested in him
enough to try to find out before most of those
people died. It's interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like most of the people involved in these I know, people.
Speaker 4: Who've been researching John Aldoman for a long time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's again, that's that's California. There's slim Pickens in
New York.
Speaker 4: That's true because New York is more about the women,
I think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, so slim Pickings.
Speaker 3: Yeah wait, so were some of the big names that
worked with Larry Hunter.
Speaker 4: That Doris Weshman Chuck Smith.
Speaker 3: Can still ask about Ken have fun with that.
Speaker 4: Uh, that's the thing. Most of them are dead and
nobody needs. Nobody needed to ask Chuck about him, like
nobody cares trying to think, Uh, yeah, they're all dead.
It's just kind of the way it is. And he's
long dead. He's you know, he has to be dead.
Uh No, Okay, Alex, I'll make you feel better now,
Mary le May, I will die on the Mary le May. Hi. Yeah, okay,
So now we're back on track, Mary Lama, we're on
the same page about of course, what do you.
Speaker 6: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just need to remind you that we there are
several like deep cut people that we still like, desperately
love that we both desperate. It's Mary love May.
Speaker 6: You're kidding me.
Speaker 4: I love you know, but I don't think. I think
Gentry is still kind of confused as so why we
love why we love her so much?
Speaker 6: So lost the weekend?
Speaker 3: I don't know why, you guys, She's just like some
She's just one of those campy older ladies that pops
up every now and then in some of these movies.
Speaker 4: That's number one reason why want to see Detention Girls.
Speaker 6: She's a butcher wardeness, right, right.
Speaker 3: We did hypothesize that she might have been married to Larry.
Speaker 4: I wonder I do wonder that, yes, because they appeared
in a lot of stuff together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want that story. I want that story.
Speaker 3: That would be interesting. Yeah, well you mentioned Kent Kent Bateman.
Uh is this too much of a headless right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What the hell is up with the headless eyes?
Speaker 4: It's terrible.
Speaker 3: Well, just how many people are in it that were
from sexploitation, and it's.
Speaker 6: Almost everyone involved in is exploitation. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind
of like everyone who made Erotic Circus was then like,
let's make something slightly more horror oriented and and cut
out the weird fantasy orgy sequence, right, and then Selta
to Jr. Again, it's like a progression pretty much from
Erotic Circus, same music.
Speaker 3: Henry Henry Peshard was involved with that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean that's the
other market, and those are the two markets that you
could make a profit on a little bunch of stuff,
sex and horror. So that's why I like Chuck Vincent,
Roberta Finlay, Maria Lease, like a lot of filmmakers went
into horror after porn or concurrently because they knew that
it was like then they could do cheaply and make
money on they're not doing like melodramas and soap operas. Yeah,
isn't Linda voice in that? Briefly? I know Linda Southern
is I Believe and Helpless Eyes. I don't know what
I've gone through, but I don't need to watch it.
I don't know if I have to watch it again
on Blu ray right of course, So yeah, I have
fund price Now. It's from like a bit, it's from
like a soul print of that, and it just has screaming.
It's the guy screaming my eye over and over and
over and over time. So it's really and the music
from Carnival Blood is used over and over if exercise,
Oh yeah, Credible Blood is a lot of fun and
everyone is horrible and that movie. So it's just like
it's high camp.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, like this moment like this movie. No, yeah,
like socker to me, Maybe it's not camp. Yeah, I
think it's very campy. What do you mean?
Speaker 4: What do I mean? It's only camp has been like life?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I think I read this a million
times in the best way.
Speaker 4: Camp shouldn't be boring. And this does not need to
be eighty This does not need to be like eighty
seven minutes.
Speaker 6: It does not need to be this long, doesn't the
case minutes?
Speaker 3: I'm going to disagree again. Yeah, so I don't think
it felt like that. I didn't think it felt that
long because it is, Oh my.
Speaker 4: God, it's a lot of long.
Speaker 6: Light by fire feels longer.
Speaker 4: My fire is like.
Speaker 3: Soccer to baby, kind of moves between quite a few little.
Speaker 4: Two houses in a tennis court. Those are the locations.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 4: Basically, it's basically minutes at least money scare love, you
go out to a bar. Yeah, they go to a bar,
and you know, yeah, yeah, that's true. That is a
good location. Actually, I was kind of like, wh where's this?
Yeah that's true. Yeah I did like that. I perked up.
It's like, oh my god, we're outside finally and not
in the backyard somewhere.
Speaker 6: Great, we got something on him? Okay, okay, guys right, I.
Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, I was, but I was like, oh my god,
how long are we going to lust after this boring
ass niece? And then how many times we're going to
argue with this French girl? And like yeah, I was like,
anyway much love the wife, love the wife so much.
I did enjoy the raw who also I didn't circus.
I did enjoy the wife is incredible, she's great. I
did enjoy the wife.
Speaker 6: Yes, if I can if Yeah, I just want to
live as the wife. I just want to be I
did enjoy her.
Speaker 3: I love watched part of that. What part of her
life you want to live?
Speaker 4: But I'll she's not Grace in Holland Satan and yos
that's the life I want.
Speaker 6: Oh god no, but like with like a gay Okay,
I realized that I can't be Grayson Hall. I need aspire,
I need to be realistic.
Speaker 4: You can, you can. You can be Grayson Hall if
you put your mind to it. I believe in you.
Speaker 6: I feel like I could least have a man I
could like just boss around like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you like Larry Hunter because he's a
little piss ant that you can boss around.
Speaker 3: He does play like an emasculated man.
Speaker 4: Yes and everything, Yes, love toy.
Speaker 3: Yes, love to absolutely yeah, oh yes again. It might
have been one of those things where, like you know,
we've seen this in sexploitations sometimes where real life does
inject itself a bit.
Speaker 4: I don't think he was actually looking for sexploitation roles
where he could play like you, because when you shout
to audition for this ship, you don't read the script
and say, oh, this is not a subpart. Okay, I'm out,
I'll see you guys later. He wasn't picky and choosy
with his ship gentry. Yeah, that's not that's not how
this works in this industry. You got phone calls and
someone saying, we're shooting this weekend, are available, give me
the script. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe they knew he had a preference for it, so
they're like, okay, we don't we're not casting, we just
will Larry is the guy that is possible to hire
him for this.
Speaker 4: Role, right, that is possible?
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, right, who knows? Yeahs I'll say I
was like then who stumbled across and was like, you know,
I know this guy who's just such a cock right
exactly that it can't mote. So like, you know what,
maybe we should higher head to catch coucks, right.
Speaker 4: And likes to bug his eyes out and look at
a guy from color me blood red.
Speaker 6: Right, Oh, he's a little bit better than the guy
from Coloring Me Blood Red.
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's a.
Speaker 6: He's a little rotten.
Speaker 4: I love I love him. I love the guy from Color.
Speaker 3: Well, you haven't seen Casey Scorpio seventy yet, but no, no.
Speaker 4: No, oh god, don't see that. Well, I'm honestly not
that excited anyway. It's Jennifer Wells I could care less,
but it's it's I want to see it. It's Ron Sullivan.
That's a bigger deal to me because I love Ron.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's so tan, he's so tan.
Speaker 6: And then he does brown face again, to the point
that I thought he was doing blackface. I'm like, you
mean he could very well you already did, and now
you're he could be it's car stopping Larry.
Speaker 4: That's so good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's actually actually now I really want Casey to
see Coming Baby Light My Fire, just to watch pon show.
Speaker 3: You mean I've seen it.
Speaker 4: I'm just honestly yeah, okay, real talk. Now that people
keep throwing my letterbox ratings in my face. I actually
spent like an hour going through removing ratings for like
fifty percent of my something weird movies, so I have
I'm going to finish by the end of the day,
so that you So if it looks like I haven't
watched it yet, you'll never know if I watched it
yet until I've actually readed it and reviewed it, and
then you can trust my view on it. So I'm reviewing,
I'm I'm removing everything.
Speaker 3: Wait, so you're kind of going to the standard Alex
DeSanto mode, which is just I watched it.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not even going to say that I saw it.
That's none of your business. You're not going to know
what I've seen and what I haven't seen. Gosh, because
I will. I'm not going to have the ratings throw
on my thrown in my face. No more my old
ass ratings. And unless I've reviewed it, unless we covered
it in the podcast, this is none of those ratings.
There are other people have done that slipcase. Alex did
the same thing, and I was like, you know what.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've thrown since knowing it once about my sister's business,
because I still don't get why even you back then
would have rated it that much.
Speaker 4: But that's my sister's business. That's a history. It says
a historical interest rating and it is justically interesting. Is
one of the back Pussy has a historical interest rating
for me because it's awful and it's an example of
how bad the genre can be. My Sister's Business is
the only exploitation movie with a leading lady with a
mustache it has. That is why I gave it a
historical interest. But you know what, I'll play by your game.
I will rewatch it, and then I will review it
and I will re rate it and then listen. I
love seeing that crazy lady and I because I watch
it and I'm just like what was going through Bobby
Davis's head where He's like, I'm going to make a
sex movie starring this woman. I feel like somebody financing
it was like make this movie with my with my
like my side piece.
Speaker 6: That because it feels too real in a sense. It
feels like he's out there somewhere. She's out there somewhere
like taking the lowest class Johns in some back alley
right now, or at the very yeah the movie, like
she was at the very very end of the alley,
at the very end of the alley, taking the.
Speaker 4: Last person at five am. I also get so.
Speaker 6: Depressed for that reason. I'm like, you feel real.
Speaker 4: Some movies are so bad that they are like legitimately
fascinating this I don't. This is not one of them
for me. It's just what's a fascinating to me? Didn't
fascinate me. I prefer light my Fire, which by the way,
was a film and a half rating before I deleted it,
so we'll see what I really think about it when
I rewatch it. But I remember loving it.
Speaker 6: Really, I don't think it's like off, Like I've seen
a million worse things, but I'm just like it's it's
the same thing.
Speaker 4: Had they because it was nice and sleezy. This just
felt like it was It didn't really work. This does
not work. Did not work like Miniskirt Love's works, where
it's tackled a lot of similar stuff, And I feel
like Miniskirt Love had a certain finesse to this leaziness
that made it easier for me to swallow than this.
Speaker 6: Oh no, I just like those balls to the walls
weird crazy. Yeah, I can say like I just like
like this, like this, like like like this, like this
is like the best of like those kind of really
crazy books I read. Come to life nothing so you.
Speaker 4: Come with additional context.
Speaker 6: Yes, you like this to me, she's a really like
Psychotically Unhinged published by Stanley Malcoln or one of the
Sturman Brothers paperbacks that you're just bewildered the whole time
and you are haunted by it.
Speaker 4: But not for the right reasons.
Speaker 3: Well, what I like about Soccer to me is the
suburban setting. I mean, you get that again. Yeah, Mini
scirit Love is also suburban, but this one really feels
like I I think in my review I compared it
to Happiness. You guys have seen Happiness, right, todd Solis It's.
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, I saw that and I was like, it's
not a ton It's not the Todd's Todd salons.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: I could see the comparison, but I don't agree. Okay,
just because I love that movie, I would never watch
it again, but I own it. It's not Walking the
Doll House, but it's like I much prefer Yeah, I
don't know. I feel like it's just too Miniskirt Love
feels more suburban to me than this. This feels like
that does feels like it was shot in like a
real neighborhood and it really kind of like it's really tight,
Like it feels more Yeah, it feels more like this
is a community, and this is what it's like behind
the closed doors. This just feel the whole thing looks
shot behind closed doors, where it's just like, well I
don't get the idea of the scope of this environment.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you can tell the houses are more spread apart,
they're not even really beside each other. Like these are
large lawns. These are big lawns that these people are
right and stuff like there's a I can see a
fountain feature and the bat like an immaculate backyard that
these people have somehow, somehow.
Speaker 4: But like we talk, we dealt with movies that are
shot in like like like suburban places like Francis Friday
We've talked about even like even Sarno stuff where he
sets in the suburbs like moonlighting wives and things like that,
Like you get the sense of the hes. He establishes
the setting so well. And this is like it just
seems like lou shooting it in like his house, which
is fine for like a certain kind of exploitation movie.
But in this movie we're trying to develop like a
script and characters and plot beats and ship. It just
does not It doesn't fire on those cylinders for me.
Which is which is a bummer because I went into
this thinking it was gonna like blow my mind, and
I was like, oh, yeah, I know, I know. It
didn't work for me. Yeah, don't don't call me for
the commentary called these two. Yeah up, that is not
that isn't that. I will bow out. I will produce that.
I will produce those supplements, just like I produced the
last package. I will put everyone else together and you
guys do it.
Speaker 6: Also, what I don't know what you would put with
soccer to me anyway, because light my Fire hasn't shown up.
But where's that print? I don't know where that print is.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question. But the print for Sokka
Tuman might be gone too for all we know.
Speaker 6: Well, actually the neck exists for that with who certain people?
And you have more s exploitation films, Okay, miniskirt love
is with Novak vinegar syndrome has socker to me?
Speaker 4: Where do they get that negative?
Speaker 6: It was with career bed and.
Speaker 4: One or two others. Oh interesting, okay, it.
Speaker 6: Was, I told you about it. There's if there's a
small batch of odd exploitation eggs that popped up like
ten years ago, Red Roses of Passion was another one
as well, would be where the Black Widow came from
that batch?
Speaker 4: O interesting, it sounds.
Speaker 6: Was there there's some others that I would say, there's
some others.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It sounds like we got the good
ones already mentioned.
Speaker 6: Actually no, I just don't want I just don't want to.
I just want to air every single one they had.
But like, no, there's some other ones that you guys
like some other ones. Okay, don't don't get dumb stuff
on my neck just yet. I got more thing, all right.
Speaker 3: The dream would be to put all the babies together
if possible, but no, just lose the like no, I
cool it baby vans and furs.
Speaker 4: And mini skirt because there's a camp Scope, so all
the camp Scope should go together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. There should not be the center should
go with light my fire. But where's my fire? That's
something problem because I don't know wh else you would
put with soccer.
Speaker 4: To me, I'm I think you shouldn't go buy title here.
He should go buy the the distributor of production company.
Camp Scope goes together because those are all part of
a collection, and Novak bought those all together. But Okay,
it's not that's.
Speaker 3: Not okay, camp Baby.
Speaker 6: Okay, but Campa hardly did. He didn't even really direct.
Speaker 4: Directed by him when Lou Waldeck directed that.
Speaker 3: But you know they're still going to put his name
on that. I mean, if they put this out, they
put his name.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, because Lou Kampa household name. People will
absolutely buy lu Campu collections.
Speaker 6: What soccer could have used? Really, because I don't know what.
I'm really fascinated by her because she's so effusive in it.
In from of maybe like My Fire is Tina Buckley
who plays June Wilson.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, who is she?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I want to know so much about her because I'm like,
you're really you look like you look like you should
not be in this can't have been her real name,
and you look like you should not remotely be in
this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah at all?
Speaker 4: It could well girlfriend after Jane and Vans. We don't know,
maybe because I'm like, why are you being in this? Girl?
Speaker 6: You're You're like, you're not bad, You're not bad, You're gorgeous.
You're absolutely like, uh you put oh, she puts her
all into that thing. That's why I watch this website
do because, oh my god, Tina is.
Speaker 3: When she's giving that like that fiery speech at the beginning,
you know, railing against drugs and.
Speaker 6: Oh god, even just her fake orgast, like just even
everything about her, everything about her in this movie.
Speaker 4: It was a powerful speech you gave tonight, June.
Speaker 1: If they only knew, if they only could see what
I've seen in the high schools and colleges across the
Country's room the ways is joining the morals of the kids.
Speaker 4: Sex is running rapid, and it's all because of marijuana.
We misstop them, miss stop them feeling better. Sorry about
that clip I gave him, It was the only thing
I could do.
Speaker 5: I forgive you, John, But the next time I get
out of hand, please don't hit me so hard.
Speaker 6: Also, I'm really wondering how they managed to kidnap her
as well, because that's never explained. She has like a
blackout because of an orgasm that her boyfriend gives her
and is like bedridden. And then and then somehow the
criminals who want to kidnap her because she's gonna because
she's going against pot and their dealers, and they had
a weird convoluted reason of like if pot is legitimized,
will both be able to make his many profits?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but they somehow manage to get.
Speaker 6: Her to fly out to them, as if she's gone
to a well and anti orgasm wellness retreat or something.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm trying to like, is it possible that light
my Fire is with Agva? They have flying out pay later?
I wonder if that's one of the prints that they
got from.
Speaker 6: Maybe because this doesn't happen and hopefully on the other two.
Speaker 4: Options, Yeah, it's either the Prince is gone, which can
be possible, or it's act for distribets. Those are kind
of our two only options. Yeah, I don't I don't
see Razo getting it. It's doesn't go for sixty stuff.
It would be like his seventies expectation is more of
his thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, if AGVA had it and they knew that
they had it, and they have done it with Fly,
and they should have done it with Fly now because
pH dial the connection there?
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, except again that's not like, Yeah, I'm
still trying to think of the connection between those two movies.
I guess it's because there's every much connection I think
where to even do call on Baby again. Would would
they try and get sucking to me from VS?
Speaker 6: Or like, yeah, well grab something else we have in
the We're.
Speaker 3: Talking from our perspective of like yeah, we just want
you know, we'll buy it. But like, the only way
to Fly now is even being released is because it's
on a Sandra Peabuddy movie. Like, let's be really right,
right exactly?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah it's black and white. It's black and white
b feature to a color feature that has horror connections,
right exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean that's what they would have to
do with something like baby, like my fire is put
that with who knows something bigger not a clue?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't put on her rause we know though,
I'd rather be with rent a girl obviously, or a
cargo of love. That would make so much sense because
it's Anton Olden. Yeah, that made perfect sense.
Speaker 6: That's a no brainer to me. That's just too black
and white. This is too black and white.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 6: Also back to come a Baby's plot, also, she keeps
on she used to fake because of her orgasms. What
if that started happening when they kidnapped her and they're like, fuck,
we're fucked.
Speaker 4: She keeps on blacking out. She gives on having orgasms.
She did the first that's the exploitation device. Why was
that not a thing?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Exactly? Like that would have been great. That sounds like
a Larry Crane kind of thing. A little it's a
little funny. It's a little funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Candy, I love you so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they called me. What does she say? They called me?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, she gives her roofie. She gives her roofie, Candy.
That's why they call me Candy. I just love this stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's how she introduces herself on the like the
ride home from the airport.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you reminded me why I did like? That reminded
me of things. That's why I rated it so high.
Speaker 3: But I'm really quite incited for you to rewatch this now.
Speaker 6: Down one of the horniest characters in sixties exploitation by far.
That woman is rabbit. That does not stop. I enjoyed
for a second. And again her only of their appearance
is in one of the Wishman's which one really amazing transplant.
Speaker 4: I think, oh interesting, either transplant or.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we only get her in this once again,
we get Tina Buckley and this.
Speaker 3: Lovely she's like a prostitute. I'll have to rewatch that, yeah,
because I'm like, I.
Speaker 4: Because amazing picks prostitute and yeah, he picks up a
prostitute I remember, and goes to like a little basement apartment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, which I hardly remember because she's not going
feral in that as she should.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, this does anyone go feral in the Doors movie? Now,
that's one just doesn't happen. Yeah, because there's no there's
no direction.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Olivia Brad we get it.
Speaker 4: And bad Girls go to Hell where she's clearly like
very Yeah, that's probably the most intense performance. Yeah, you're
right even and love to is very like, that's very
capidated the Canary. That's a very reserved and that's why
that performance works. But yeah, you don't really have there's
no The other performance that's completely over the top is
Pamela Man and Keyholes Are for Peeping, which is terrible,
and so is Kristen Steen in that is also very
over the top, and that's bad too. It's like the
only time they're they're over the top and lot in
loud and a worst movie is in like a really
bad comedy with Sammy Patrollo.
Speaker 3: I I assume that's because it's that's Sammy's influence, you know, bringing.
Speaker 4: Sammy only shot two days and then wasn't around for
the rest of it. I don't know, Okay, yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I like to think about that movie.
I like to pretend that doesn't terrible, terrible. I'm sure
Bowen loves it.
Speaker 3: What is the opinion, Well, we kind of. I need
to watch the uh, the amazing transplant version that you
gave us, Casey that.
Speaker 4: Yes, with the missing footage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the one that makes so much more sense now
on your side, case It makes more sense when you
know the.
Speaker 3: Right, especially because I just watched Linda Southern and Woven
seventy two, that piece of crap.
Speaker 4: Did you sit through that?
Speaker 6: Why did you sit through that?
Speaker 10: You know why?
Speaker 3: I sat through it for Larry Hunter even I wouldn't do.
Speaker 6: That again for Larry Hunter.
Speaker 4: You're out of your advertising watching every Larry Hunter movie.
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 7: I am Oh my god, Oh my god, Jesus, I
am just diminishing returns. I'm up then, Jesus Christ. And
let me guess he plays the same character and everything.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's a detective or no, one question at a time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Alex, No, is he in the original
Cowards footage or is he in the.
Speaker 4: Should have just been chill now? The hippie ship was
later and I forget that was Kamal I think Kamal
Harulu did that, and then Simon Knuckturn did the nineteen
seventy so, but did you see Love Is where It's At?
Speaker 5: Yet?
Speaker 3: Have I seen Love Is where It's at?
Speaker 4: Larry Hunter is in that, and so Zilanas and your
Ally and Joe and Jackie Richards and Joe Allen. It's
like a murder mystery, sex quotations murder mystery and also
what's his face? Uh? That character actor? Oh no, the
guy from the guy from Magnolia. I forget what ship,
I forget what his name is, big characters.
Speaker 6: You can't really forget that began credit sequence because it's
all going up Joel's body as a credit as like, yeah,
you definitely haven't seen it if you can't remember that.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is very similar to like a like a
flush or like a Findley.
Speaker 3: Credit sequence, because Sydney Knight did the Simon Yeah, yeah,
Simon did the loving and he did Love is where
it's at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I need to watch No he did not
Love and seven Cowards is Nocturn Love and seventy two.
I think it's kind of is credited to Nottur might
have been involved with producing that footage, but I don't
think he shot it. I thought it was I thought
it was Kamal Harulu shot they add on footage. I
don't remember. It's probably not worth thinking about more. Such
a bad movie. I remember I bought it. I was
so excited. Something weird put it out and it was
just like Michigan.
Speaker 6: Yeah again, that's the Michigan has to another.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason. Another reason I got it too.
I was like, oh, Michigan, okay, and then I lost it.
I was like, why why the worst ones? It's not
as interesting as like Ghetto Freaks, which is similar situation
where that was shot as one movie in like nineteen
seventy and then a few years later had added footage.
I quite enjoy that, but yes, it's not fun. Ghetto
Freaks is fine. Is not?
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: I swear it's like eighty percent just people talking.
Speaker 6: There are only the Michigans would have decided to even
add sex I don't think anyone else would have even cared.
They would have just sheltered. Only the Michigans go, let's
just add some new dy, right.
Speaker 4: Or maybe was it ken Of Schwartz. Maybe was it
kend Of Schwartz who shot that footage who later ended
up producing It's Fire.
Speaker 6: Kamal online, But we don't I don't know if that's real.
Speaker 4: Of course, Yeah, if it was a kend Of Schwartz name,
people have been mixing him up with Kamal Harulu. They
are not the same who produced Piena on Fire and
Dracula Exodica for Sean Costello.
Speaker 6: Do we know that Kamal did sexual practices in Sweden,
which was another Michigan around the same time.
Speaker 4: I know of that.
Speaker 6: But the only potential tissue, that's the only potential tissue
I can see there with that Carl Hanson.
Speaker 4: That's the name he used, Yes, Carl Hansen, Kamal.
Speaker 6: Who did that.
Speaker 4: But probably.
Speaker 3: The other reason I watched love In is for the
very brief appearance of Sandra Peabody.
Speaker 4: Oh, she's probably in the Cowards footage. No, maybe not,
that's too early. She probably wasn't that.
Speaker 3: She's at the Canadian like Draft House at the beginning
when they're having sucks.
Speaker 4: No, oh, then if Cowards is nineteen seventy, that's too early.
She wasn't in the city yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're thinking about this too much. Sorry, I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah for this. Oh my so, let me guess that's
on Cold Picks. Probably it is, yes, don't you don't
you all don't need to watch that.
Speaker 6: Okay, but watch Soccer to me baby.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, that is on Cult Picks, much like my
friend is a baby.
Speaker 4: Let my phone in there as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
Speaker 4: Okay, by my fire, I remember liking. I'm excited to
revisit it. I didn't have time to watch it before
the episode, and I was owned by Soccer to my
baby or so why I'm not going to put any
more time.
Speaker 3: Not that you didn't have time. He just didn't want
to know.
Speaker 4: I didn't have time. I I legit didn't And then
talking to my baby was a drag, and so I
was just like, I don't want to watch all the
Luke campip piece of shit.
Speaker 6: Don Miano is very unconvinceding has a mob boss.
Speaker 3: I will say that you think so.
Speaker 6: Seriously, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just don't.
Speaker 6: You a mob boss. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, sweetie,
you're trying to sexually brainwash this girl. Sure, Jerry, Jerry, okay.
Speaker 3: And Casey, you get to see Joe Ellen is in
the movie as well, so yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's oh yeah, sidekick. I love Joellen. You're finally
on the Joellen try.
Speaker 3: I'm finally on it. Yes, I just needed to see
some more because the stuff I had seen she didn't
really do anything or even really say anything.
Speaker 4: And how blood She's the only model who actually models.
Speaker 3: I know, but she doesn't do anything else.
Speaker 6: She's in like one, she's in the orgy.
Speaker 4: There's so much I will say that.
Speaker 6: That's the only good reason why the only thing I
remember about that, that's the only good thing about her
about that movie, besides Jerry Miller's dance sequence, which one
candy Baby Baby.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Charles Devlin again, thank you.
Speaker 3: For are we still are we sure it's candy Baby?
Speaker 4: Casey?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was so embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Alex, you're going to cut this ship out, but I'm
going to talk about this. He went through it and
he was like, oh no, this is some other seventies
movies called Candy Baby. This totally doesn't match. And then
I start wing he yeah, He's like, yeah, thanks for sending,
but this isn't candy this isn't the BH style Candy Baby.
So I'm looking through it and I'm like, there's Jerry Miller,
there is this actress, there's this actress. And then I
find a shot at the end that matches the poster.
So I'm just like, guys on the poster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like embarrassing moment, I will he was.
Speaker 4: He was in a hurry to get out of the
house and do some kids stuff. I think.
Speaker 3: Just also, I also admittedly like in my head, I
always saw that movie as black and white. Just that's
fair the poster, and so as soon as I see
this in color, I'm like, there's no way I'm not
even gonna.
Speaker 6: See that whole movie threw me off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 6: The whole movie threw me off so badly.
Speaker 4: Except but you're going by that, then you're gonna be
really surprised by a lot of districts in London Kurtman Ship,
because all of those promotions are in black and white
because they're cheap at ship, and the movies are in color. Yeah,
I just the un the UNA press book is black
and white. That movie is in color. Yeah, it's just cheap, cheaper.
So that was a good lesson, Gentry. Do not go
by the advertising materials. Yeah, they're cheap as cheap ass
motherfuckers in this business.
Speaker 3: Think about yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: Just one color. If you think about it, think about
all there one sheets, it's just one color.
Speaker 4: A Master Beater was black and white.
Speaker 6: It's well, we know, yeah, yeah it's black white and
oh wait oh the actual movie that we don't know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. We don't know. All right. None of
the would seem to indicate that it is.
Speaker 6: It would have advertised in the ads. That would have
been a selling point.
Speaker 4: I mean, Candy Baby didn't say it was in color anywhere.
Oh wait a minute, it did. That was something else. Gentry.
I was like, it says it's in color. What does
that's right? The poster for Candy Baby says it's in color.
I believe. So I was like, Gentry, it says it's
in color.
Speaker 3: I needed to look at that again.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Master beads definitely in black and white.
Speaker 4: Definitely black and white. Okay, Yeah, it's gotta be interesting. Yeah,
you one would think they would advertise more if it's
in color, but like Una doesn't say it's in color
on that press book. I don't think that's weird. Yeah,
I don't. I don't know that's the logic is there?
If not promoting it's in color, that's very strange. But
then it also makes them look cheap if they're going
to have a black and white press book and you
say it's in color and makes them look like cheap assholes,
and like, well, then show us these naked women to
promote the movie in color, like you know, and also
who say stuff is in color when it's like what
astro color? Like putting the tints over a Filipino monster movie?
That's color?
Speaker 6: Now that's the Wars Defender all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like so you can. I'm trying to think. I'm
trying to think, decide.
Speaker 6: Yeah, besides Plat and pussy Cat Is there are another
sixties exploitation film that did the filter thing and called
it in color. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 4: I thought that there was a Crussy one, but no,
I misremember and Russy didn't do that. No, was the
import that somebody did.
Speaker 6: The only thing Kressy did I remember is in one
of the Mondo films he said, this is red infrared
film and.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 6: And white otherwise, but not like advertised. I think Plat
and pussy Cat was advertised, right.
Speaker 4: It really wasn't that common because that is the lowest low. Yeah,
you're not going to do because you're not going to
do that. If you get a black on white movie,
you're not going to attend to. You're just gonna be
like in dirty black and white like.
Speaker 6: Real life or whatever, or in sex o vision, like
just something doesn't necessarily hurt it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right right.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing that Tina was such a good schema.
If it wasn't for her conniving, we would have been
caught a long time ago. A little bitch. She's going
to do all right in life.
Speaker 4: She's a boor and hustler.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 2: When this thing blows up and it's gonna make Hiroshima
look like Coney Island fireworks, the hell of it, I'm
not gonna worry about it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: We are going to be patiently waiting your new new review, Casey.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm going to get to it.
I'm sim a foreigner land, so just got nine as
well to say the nine hours, so it's only nine
hours early an hour piece. That's the thing. Also, I
just have to say, like watching something like this after
I've been seeing like movies, sexploitation movies in color and
scope like professionally mounted, and then going back to this
where like I have multiple scenes that are out of
focus and I can't see the naked lady. I'm just
like right, So Japan has always been ahead of us
in terms of like technology, Like you're.
Speaker 3: Watching seventies and eighties though watching.
Speaker 6: In the sixties, so no even the sixties, even watching
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm so happy violating.
Speaker 4: Because I don't think that you know what I've said
it before here, American sexploitation distributors, a lot of them
just hated their audiences. I don't think the Japanese distributors
hated their audiences. They were on to give them some
kind of quality. There, weren't the big hucksters that American
sex six quoters were, like Krussy with the bite, he
didn't trust his audiences weren't smart. We're smart enough to
watch a movie in Japanese with subtitles.
Speaker 3: Right, we don't get with John Alderman.
Speaker 4: Yeah right right, it's like, no, my audience is, but
they're not. They're not gonna understand this. But yeah, no,
I mean I'm just I'm spoiled. But come on, come on, baby,
light my fire. I do remember liking quite a bit.
I'm very I'm concerned. I don't remember more about it,
but going by my previous rating, I liked it. I
just I just need to watch it. It kind of
just it sounds like it would go well with like
a Cargo of Love or Flying Now Pay Later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's kind of like a
lesser fly Out pay Later.
Speaker 4: Interesting because they're both Senex so that would have made
less flying out.
Speaker 6: No, No, I mean I mean like flying up, fly
fly Now, like they go different places and things like that.
I mean maybe they're mostly that's what I mean. Like
fly Now people are put into crates and like all
this kind of stuff. There's a weird year. It's interesting
camera work.
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember it being very ambitious.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, it's more ambitious, that's it. It's more I
am ambition.
Speaker 4: See that's the thing. I kind of wish this has
just been more ambitious, like I feel like Miniskirt Love,
for whatever reason, feels more ambitious to me than this.
And I don't know if it's shot better. I don't.
Speaker 3: I think it's just Janet bans just elevates everything well.
Speaker 4: Also, Bella Donna's good in it. Like it's just like
I'm much more compelled by that twisted story and the
universe is just built better, which I know sound crazy
to say about sexploitation movies, but like yeah, like yeah,
it's like yeah, world building and sexploitation, like give me
a break. But like there, it's it's it's it's more
easy to get lost in that movie and get absorbed
into that movie than it is this time.
Speaker 3: For me, there's like that little you know, the relationship
between you know, Janet Banzai's aunt and the young camera boys.
It's done pretty well there. It's yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: I also think, and I've said this before, that if
it's if it's a sexpectation movie that is way too
focused on a male central character, I am not going
to be invested because I don't give a shit about
a man trying to get his rocks off. I could
give two shits. I want to focus on a woman.
Compare this to something Apples and Oranges, all American girl
that is all about that girl. Like, you know what
would have been great if this was movie was all
about Tina at the babysitter I or the or the wife.
I would have been way more invested because I would
have been like, Oh, she has this nasty, cheating husband
on the side who's lusting after the teens, but she
also wants to have sex with the teens, and so
I'm more interested in what she has to do with it,
you know. I just and also, knowing what we know
about Lou being a total nasty piece of shit, there's
too much of him in this.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, you think that Larry Hunter is like
the proxy sort of for absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, even though Lou was I think slimmer than him,
so he like cast a fatter version of herself. It
was just like it's just like, okay, yeah, I don't know.
It's just like I know, I don't know. It sounds
like I'm being rough or whatever, but like, I don't
begrudge people liking movies that I don't like. It's just
you know, just what it is. But like, I don't know,
I wanted to like this so much more. I think
that's why I'm just like bummed about it, because like
I wanted to like it, because I liked all the
stuff lou Campa did before this, and I like to
light my fire based on my rating. And I was
just like, oh, this just doesn't It didn't hit for me.
I don't know. Maybe if I revisit it in a while.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just didn't. It didn't hit for me.
Speaker 3: All right, readers, did let us know what you think?
Speaker 4: I'm in the minority because everyone else seems to love it.
Speaker 3: The only person you know I'm wondering now.
Speaker 4: Charles agrees with me John everything.
Speaker 3: He's not a good gauge.
Speaker 4: I hate everything. He just rates everything on a more
logical scale.
Speaker 6: No, it's not as good as Maskirt Love, but as
like I said, a really unhinged pulp trash.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, if you have a really good background, Alex,
that is true. You're coming out of a different perspective
in different context that I don't have. That's true.
Speaker 6: That's what they is, like one of those come to life,
and I'm just here for the insanity.
Speaker 4: M hmm.
Speaker 3: All right, because you don't tell us, now what would
you what would you give? Sock it to me? Baby?
And what would you give come on baby, light my fire?
Speaker 4: Fuck?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: Oh god, So I don't give ratings. I hate this.
Speaker 4: You wait a minute, you do give radiance because you
rated there's Don Walters movies pretty harshly.
Speaker 6: But that's because I feel the absolute need for people
to completely understand that those.
Speaker 3: Are like, yeah, generally you that's warning.
Speaker 6: Warning, like every else five. But then I'm like, you
have to be aware that this is like Bride for Brenda.
I'm scared people are going to go in that with
an expectation. I'm scared for that.
Speaker 4: What I want people to see Bride for Brenda so
they can see Buster from Seeds and like another substantial role.
There's only other substantial role that's accessible.
Speaker 6: I just feel so bad for him. I found him
in another one of those distript PTS movies, a hot cut.
Speaker 4: I foun him in a I sent you yeah, and
I was like, this is.
Speaker 6: Another one, another one. Oh god, it feels so bad
for him.
Speaker 3: All right, answer the question.
Speaker 4: I write this, Yeah, he's delayed delayed reaction.
Speaker 6: I'm giving both of them a six for different reasons.
Speaker 4: A six. Okay, So like IMDb six, which is what
three stars on little box? Is that how that transfers?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Then three and a half for different reasons. In that
Soccer to Me Baby, like I said, I love its craziness. Yeah,
come on, light my Fire is a lot more well made,
but the story isn't.
Speaker 4: As interesting interesting.
Speaker 6: So they're that for Yeah, they're that for different reasons.
They're not the same film. They're ghastly in its content.
Speaker 4: But you gave it three and a half with a heart.
Speaker 3: I gave Socket to Me three and a half in
a heart, and come on, baby, three and a heart. Okay,
thanks so pretty much.
Speaker 4: They're very similar, just a half extra for Soccer to
Me Baby interesting, which is the Larry Hunter probably got
that happy, probably.
Speaker 6: For yeah, come on, baby, managers to actually feel genuinely filthy,
like I feel like Socca to Me doesn't achieve that.
Speaker 3: No, Soka to Me is filthy more like because of
the mindset of Larry Hunter's character. But come on, baby,
actually like shows a lot more, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, Oh god, even with some of the dialogue,
she won't be a version after a pond show.
Speaker 3: How many sixties expectation movies have like uh yeah, like
Golden Showers, I name them. There's I make a list.
Speaker 6: I genuinely don't think because I would have mentally like
been like, oh, I'm gonna mentally single with that out
because that's crazy. I don't can't. I can't think of
any other film that is in the bizarre ones.
Speaker 4: No, no, they don't even go there. I thought there
was another is not ultimate Voyeur, no Fluctuation not. I
don't think it does.
Speaker 3: If there was going to be one, yeah, maybe it
would be Ultimate Voyeur, but I don't I.
Speaker 4: Would think it would be Fluctuations.
Speaker 6: But I hands down, even if it was a bad film,
I would have remembered a film having that scene.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, that's the kind of thing that like, that's so shocking.
It wouldn't really come along until hardcore when you could
actually do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean S and M is very similar in
that way. Different kinks didn't really start being included in
films in a more vivid way until it was hardcore.
Speaker 6: Yeah about say, these were very standard. The kicks in
sexploitation was very standard, Yeah, because it.
Speaker 4: Was like being tight, being tied up and whipped as one,
and like wearing leathers another, and like s and M Dombsell.
That's why Venus have Verse so interesting because there's all
sorts of other interesting kinks in there that are still
not as they don't cross that line into something that well,
I guess I kind of did for the time, something
that would be censored or cut out by local you know,
local censor boards and stuff. But yeah, you're like, yeah,
water sports, that's a bridge too far. I think it
was until those because a lot of and also it's
a like pink, yeah, kink and film, I think because
it was considered to be so niche. So if you're
gonna do something that you want to be seen by
the most people possible, you're not conclude something that is
so niche that it's going to turn off what you
consider a larger part of your audience. That's why like
video was very helpful for Kicks, because then you could
have stuff that's focused on like all lesbians fisting, pissing,
that kind of thing like that that's in hardcore was
much well, and then it's so weird because yeah, time
going back to the Japanese Roman Corno, they didn't care
about that. They're just like we're gonna have people getting
having enemas and shooting water all over the place and yeah,
it doesn't matter how that was.
Speaker 6: I think that's just completely indefensible for the genre that
goes way too far. I'm surprised it's in that print.
Speaker 4: It was like shot.
Speaker 6: I'm surprise it's not snipped out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually that's a very good point. If this is
the only print we have, I'm shocked that it still
has it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just not Yeah, it's
too it's very niche. A lot of kinks are just
too niche for that. I mean, oh no, there isn't.
There isn't water sports in like a Findly movie. I
don't know why. I thought of some pleasures or general
but no, he didn't even go that far either. There's
this baby spitting up milk and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I think is probably more gross than Yeah,
that is like grotesque.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does all anything else in that, including you know,
squash sports, but it's not food.
Speaker 6: He'll go there with food.
Speaker 4: Probably doesn't even do yeah, it doesn't do uh, yeah,
doesn't do pissing or fisting or enemas or any of
that stuff. Yeah, but but you would know this, but
that's the kind of thing that you could get literature
about at that time in the sixties, in the late sixties,
could you was it included in like dirty books or
was that still something that took into the seventies to
start including.
Speaker 6: The most that was a bit maybe by sixty nine
like the Cusp, maybe by again by sixty nine like this.
But the farthest thing that they were the number one
thing that they were doing that exploitation films weren't, because
Mascar eleven and Talking to Me Baby are the only
films I can think of. But the books go farther
into including adolescents than exploitation films up the sixties.
Speaker 4: Right, And those are worse than you would see in film,
because in film they wouldn't be taking this kind of risks. Yeah,
the book you could write about it with some of
the publishers took risks.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it did take some bad I read some
amfl stuff. Yeah, some gasly risks. But that's yeah, that's
the one thing that besides these two campus they went
in this era.
Speaker 4: Not nothing else. Wait, actually, water sports. The close I
could think of is that really long piss in cursiper
flesh and that opening, the opening credits, the piss that
goes on forever, Okay, a year in all that's very different,
but still piss. If someone in a piss is like,
oh yeah, I could just imagine all this piss washing
all over me. Michael, Michael fin Over, I know that
wasn't I know? That was more Probably Michael sends to humor,
is kind of like, how long is this guy going
to piss reading these credits? Yeah, but now I.
Speaker 6: Really love to think that one jodle Man kept on
coming back to see that movie, just one guy in
the corner.
Speaker 4: Yes, and just say a single man. And then just
for the credit, he brought taper.
Speaker 6: He brought taper coorder with them that sameause.
Speaker 3: I probably love The Lusty Hours then, because there is
that pick up since you know the gay pickup scene
in The Lusty Hours, which is a gross bathroom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, Alex, that's maybe something we should do Pride Months.
We should try to edit together like a mixtape of
like all the queer sequences in otherwise straight heterosexual movie
like the one I just posted this morning, Oh yes,
which is so random and crazy and I'm like, why.
Speaker 3: Why I posted that? Because you don't see that much
like very bold gay stuff in sixty sexploitation.
Speaker 4: Right, and not made by the exactly because they were gay.
Sam Kata, as far as I know, was not so
very interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very shocking.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The only one I can think of that wasn't a
Maro is mind Blowers.
Speaker 4: Yes, I watch that. I'm that, I've seen it, Miss
Christen Steen.
Speaker 6: That has a man on man scene in that. Oh yes,
I remember that goes slightly farther than the Marows, but
not as graphic as the Alex Man sequence.
Speaker 4: And then I guess also that massage sequence and Venus
and first which Marzana was like, well that's the gay scene,
Like is it? It's just sheb Wilde showing that he
was in the sewer in real life.
Speaker 6: Actually, even Playpen Girls had more from what like, right,
remember Playpen Girls had Actually Master Beater has some pretty
it's literally a still in this with some.
Speaker 4: Corporate queen. Corporate queen. Actually, yes, Neil Martinsen, that chat
we were just on. Oh he showed me was in
that press book of corporate queen. I need to respond to.
Speaker 6: Okay, actually there's even more. There's uh the lost film
Secret files of Detective X. One of the case studies.
One of the case studies is about two gay men. Uh,
there's a couple.
Speaker 4: Oh, I need to revisit the press book.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Interesting, Okay, Yeah, secret fils of Detective X and
Cochin spring it back.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Because because we've failed you, We failed you
so miserably this month them Let's.
Speaker 4: Do a palate cleanser after this. Let's let's can I
get some mouth wash after the lou camp.
Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want, Casey.
Speaker 6: M. D.
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We're on a mission to watch every movie ever made
by New World Pictures with me as always as Mark.
Speaker 11: Every movie, every movie, every movie from the Roger Kormacole
classics like That'll be on the Stars, and the super
weird stuff you never even heard of, like Eat and Run.
Speaker 4: Thanks, you don want to say hey it's nice to me, Yes,
Mark every movie and Erica every movie. Yes, Erica every movie.
Speaker 11: Every movie.
Speaker 12: So we're still talking about Night two Share and all
the bonus stuff too. We're talking things we love, things
we hate, and favorite scenes, inside jokes, and I know
we're not a final questions.
Speaker 4: But are we still talking about Ryan's research?
Speaker 10: I know I am, so check out our website, New
World Pictures podcast dot com, or subscribe to the New
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