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Speaker 1: We're all owned by the Syndicate Body and Soul or

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should I just say Bunny?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Filthy movie lovers, Something Weirdos and anti Criterion Bros

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to the forty first episode of the Sin Syndicate, where

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trains are for running, gum is for chewing, and age

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ain't nothing but a number. My name is Gentry Austen,

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writer and researcher, and I'm here with my co host,

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adult film historian Casey Scott, and this week's episode is

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the continuation of a loose trilogy. We began with episode

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thirty eight, Trodden Underfoot with special guest Jane Garrett, and

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also its follow up episode forty Back to Marzano Land

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with Nathan Schiff. The connective tissue here being producer director

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Lou Campa, who both assisted and hindered Joseph Marzano, the

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creative mind behind nineteen sixty seven's Venus and Furs, But

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by the time we reached nineteen sixty eight, Marzano is out.

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Speaker 3: Of the picture.

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Speaker 2: Cam Scope Pictures appears to be finished, but Lou Campa

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is still helping to churn out filth through the film

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partnership known as Sinex Industries. So to help us out. Here,

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we are once again joined by Toronto's very own Alex

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DeSanto to talk about this era of Campa's career, with

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a special emphasis on two films in the Baby trilogy,

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Sock It to Me Baby, and come on Baby, Light

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my fire.

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Speaker 3: I could guess, is it da? This is the film

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you've been waiting to see. You've heard about Suck It

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to Me Now see Suck it to Me Baby coming

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into this theater.

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Speaker 4: I bet he be a deadbeat.

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Speaker 3: Wait by a dozen of bees.

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Speaker 1: By then I Sock it to me Baby.

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Speaker 3: Just do whim old ladies, jeez.

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Speaker 5: And she's a fraud. She's queer, she's a lesbian, she

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likes girl.

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Speaker 4: She's had Nie since that was fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Socket to Me, Baby.

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Speaker 3: But first let's do a few news and updates. We've

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got Alex with us for the full duration here. Let's

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start with the voices of desire Fly now, pay later.

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But so we finally got to kind of see Casey

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how this was going to be put together, and I

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like it. Yeah, it's very loosely horotic themed. They've even

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got the horotic trailer reel here put together. I'm assuming

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by Lisa, and they've got a few shorts here maybe

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we should talk about I think these are kind of interesting. Well,

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first of all, we've got driving Miss Daisy Crazy, which

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I'm not sure if AGFA knows the story behind this.

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What can you tell us here, Casey this is and

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Alex this is kind of abridged version of another District

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Pix film.

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Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, after the ball was over. It's just yeah,

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it's all the good parts of that movie pretty much.

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This was Yeah, it's like thirty five minutes. See, this

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edit was at least originally released when Something Weird was.

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Speaker 4: Handling the District Pix catalog.

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Speaker 6: It was an extra on the Monster Go gosych by

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the four D Witch disc. But it's owned by District

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Pics and Hanka was not representing District Picks. That's all

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Speaker 3: We're not throwing anybody under the bus here. Yeah, it's

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just yeah, I'm not sure if they talk to District

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I would like to see you know, who knows when

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that's gonna come out, if ever from District Picks. So

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you know, it's kind of nice seeing a little bit

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of it on here. But again. Yeah, I'm not sure

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what the agreement was there.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen it?

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Speaker 6: Have you seen that full thing?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I haven't yet.

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Speaker 6: It's bottomed feet er.

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Speaker 4: It's fine if you like Suzanne Landau. It's her biggest role, right,

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so yes, it's worth seeing if you like Susanne Landau.

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Speaker 3: So doesn't like Susan Lando.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there are people who don't like Susan Landow.

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Speaker 6: In the exact same dre that she bore and kiss

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of her flesh mm hmm yep, being her assed the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she pulls some great faces all the time. But

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we've also got strange sex streams. That's another short that's

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on here, which I don't know the story behind that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's It's one of Michigan's many crappy little shorts

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there have been strange sextremes. There's just a bunch of

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that's a short one. And then Maniac Hospital, which is

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from the Pill. Yes, which was a short or if

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the for dy Witch one, but I'm pretty sure it

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and my priority is always the full movie, not the short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. But yeah, Frank Spencer is in that

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Maniac Hospital short, and it kind of reminded me that again,

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he's another guy whose credits online are just a complete mess.

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and Flesh episode. We talked about him a bit.

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Speaker 4: He's in Cooler Baby and Miniskirt Love and Stuff and

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something else. We did an episode on he was a

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mainstay in New York's exploitation.

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Speaker 4: I mean he is what he shows up and he's nondescript. Yeah,

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he's yeah, he's he's he's a white guy to show

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get into light My fire. Yeah, he's fine.

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Speaker 3: What else about the release? Anything else to say? Casey,

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how did you think it turned out?

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Speaker 4: It's not good? Well, actually I forgot how not good?

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only print that's ever surfaced.

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Speaker 3: The voices and of Desire one voices Desire.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched Pay Later. I have to because I'm

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not prepared to review that yet. Basically I'm not watching

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anything American's exploitation. Also'm going to sit down and do

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like an in depth review of it, and I'm just like,

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remember liking that one.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I will listen to your commentary. It's great.

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Speaker 4: Did and it did today before we started recording. And

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luckily I stole a wired mouse from work, so now

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Speaker 3: No more good good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no more wireless mouse for me. I'm tethered to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, pick up the release if you haven't already

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that's the selling point. I've seen a lot of people

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excited online about seeing her in an early sexploitation movie, so.

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Speaker 4: Right, if I will. If we had known a little earlier,

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I would have taken taken the plunge and and tried

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contacting her, to be completely honest, because she has not

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been contacted since I mentioned that in the commentary. She

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lesson the Left book and that was God, that was

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like ninety seven ninety eight. We're talking like almost thirty

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years ago, so we're overdue. And I really want to

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know more about Teenage Chit Checkers, which I think is

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her best movie, hands down, is better than Teenageitch. She's

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the Left too, So yeah, I still might. I think,

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Speaker 4: She's not in that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that No, at this point, like I keep running

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to get actresses anymore. To be completely honest, I feel

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like I definitely try to get actresses. I feel like

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a lot of supplement producers and in all genres, I'm

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not trying to get talent anymore. They're trying to focus

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on like historians and because they're cheaper. Yeah, so I'd

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rather talk to people who made the movies, so please

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please correct. They don't want to put in the work

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to try to convince actresses to talk, even to their

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stories would be much more interesting in hearing someone regurgitate

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their story, like me regurgitating her story for versus desire,

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not as interesting as it would have been to actually

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hear from her, especially knowing that she was the star

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of Chuck Vinston's very first feature film. I would love

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Speaker 3: Doing Okay, Yeah, it was. I just remembered it's David

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Speaker 3: Also, your wad came out. Have you been looking at

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Speaker 4: You're not like me where I still call people out

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Speaker 3: I will call it out.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the only place where I'll

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And yeah, it was very nice, very nice.

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little contest, we can give some way to our friends.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Ah. Now I'm like another company that we're

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still begging for copies. Yes, okay, so I'm done with

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the hot takes for this.

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Speaker 6: No oh really, okay.

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Speaker 4: We're Mark Murray actually posted about it already and had

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no problem naming names, and I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, yeah he did.

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Speaker 4: I feel you, buddy.

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you don't feel bad about saying it, Like you're totally right,

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Like you deserve something for all the work you did.

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that is my fault because I have not asked for

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my comp copy yet. See that's the thing I think

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just automatic that you would get contributors copies, but you know,

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their focus is on making sure that copies of people

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are paying for or ship, so like if you're contributing,

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it's just a nice little reminder of like can you

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please send me a copy? Is kind of natural. So

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I'll probably email Justin about that he's been all over

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the city and I haven't gone to any of the

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events that he's been at. Otherwise I'd be like, can

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I please let my copy of WAT bring it? Just

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bring it with yeah or just yeah, I mean you

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would save on shipping, just like just just give it

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to me in person and we can get a picture

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for the Graham.

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Speaker 3: That would be that would be cute.

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to talk about this, but I heard that they mentioned

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it on their podcast. So yes, we are going to

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we're going to do our little crossover on theirs since

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they came on ours last year. That should be.

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Speaker 4: Fun, right, And it's going to be Pride themed since

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we have nothing for Pride schedules for our podcast.

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Speaker 3: I know, so that's a good segue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, you know what, we outnumber you in this episode.

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Consider this our pride podcast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're always being too prideful anyway, right exactly right here.

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Speaker 4: We yeah, exactly. We don't need a whole month. We

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talked shit anyway all the time.

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Speaker 3: Well, that does bring up the conversation because I kind

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of felt bad. I was like, well, I don't even know,

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you know, what do you do for Pride month? For sexploitation?

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I mean, there's a lord's good examples.

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Speaker 6: Do you really want to do an episode on Chained Girls.

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Speaker 4: No, but just the two of us, absolutely, just the

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two of us.

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Speaker 6: I know, I don't know why I was still thinking, yeah,

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that's a really.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, there's the two of us is great.

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The meat Rock is great, Sticks and Stones is great. Uh,

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she Man is great. Yeah, there's definitely good examples in exploitation.

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Johnny Firecloud not sexploitation, but has a great, great, two

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great characters in that. Yeah, and his gay deputy very

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clearly is having an affair with him. Yeah, Yeah, there's

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there's good examples. And also even just doing a film

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by gay director, we could have done Voices Desire could

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have done well, the Cats Away could have done Missus Barrington. Yeah, like,

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there are definitely examples, there are definitely once we could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do better next year. I'm sorry, but I.

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Speaker 4: Sure we will.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: And there was something there wasn't there something that there

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was something that I wanted to cover with Sarah Freebert

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and I don't remember now, we were talking about that

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because I love Farah, remember now, Oh, Sins of Rachel. Yes,

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Richard Fontaine, you know gay porn legend made Sins of Rachel.

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That'd be a good one to do it anyway, she

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should do that, but yeah, there are examples. Shane Girls

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is like, well, it's it's I enjoy it, but it's

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not exactly the most progressive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. As far as like lesbian themed sexploitation, there's countless.

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I mean there's lesbi it's almost every sexploitation movie. So

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that's in my mind is like, well, what's a good

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gay sexploitation movie that's not a hardcore you know, not

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a hardcore movie.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, something we'd released nith Rack, Sticks and Stones, Yeah,

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that's a good one as a double feature. Those are

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both excellent. Six and Stones is like basically Six and

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Stones is a low budget Boys in the Band. It's

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shot on like Fire Island. It's yeah, Six and Stones

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is terrific. Kim Pope is in it. Yeah, it's it's

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it's really that's a really good one. Well yeah, but

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just the two of us, Yeah, I would love to

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do just the two of us. And also Barbara Peters.

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Barbart Peters is interesting. I've talked to her several times

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of the years on Facebook and stuff, and she's she's

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iffy about doing full interviews, but she's very happy to

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answer questions, so I could totally toss some questions at

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her about that. She also one of the stars of

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that movie. She later worked as like a script girl

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or something on Barry Me and Angel, so it was

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clear that she liked this woman. So yeah, I'd like

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to know more. Elizabeth Knowles is in it, who's in trade?

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Horny and a bunch of other stuff. So, yeah, that's

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such a good one. I think that's on our short list.

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I think I added that to our shortlist to consider.

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, long list. Yeah, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, that's her touch. We don't really need to talk about.

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That's under touches a little more. That's a little more problematic,

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as they say, Yeah, even though it has Susan Bernard

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and Dolly Reid, not the most progressive lesbian story.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Alex, anything to add to that discussion?

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Speaker 4: No case, he just did it all for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well you wanted to talk about something, Alex.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know if I want to anymore because

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I'm saving my energy to carry the rest of this episode.

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Speaker 4: Well what are you giving? You have that little faith

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and gentry?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I have to really fight.

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Speaker 4: Gent liner notes booklet about Sin x so gentry is

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mister senex at this.

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Speaker 6: Point, Can I really fight for people like Larry Hunter

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and stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are on your own with that. Yeah,

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I'm not gonna happen for me.

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Speaker 3: Well let me kick it off here because I also

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saw another comment Mark Murray, you know he mentioned on

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Facebook He's like, it really bothers me that I get

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so irritated every time I see someone upscale low resolution

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video file and call it h D or four K.

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as well, with that silly count that we found on

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YouTube that was upscaling all these exploitation movies too four

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K and it's clearly just him throwing it through an

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AI filter and you spit out this waxy monstrosity. And

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again I've run into this with with eurocult films. They'll

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throw you know. I was looking for a film the

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other day. I found it on YouTube and it's clearly

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just upscaled garbage and their faces are all waxy and

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it looks terrible. And then I just look at the

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comments for it and nobody is calling it out. It's

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just like people assume this is how the movie looks,

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and That's what pisses me off the most because people

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are this is how I mean, their brains are now

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being taught to see films like this, or to see

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films that haven't been upscaled as like somehow lesser or

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that's how films shouldn't look.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and it also set like sets a more grim

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precedent as well to start using AI and like restorations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

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Speaker 6: It's also really good about calling.

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Speaker 3: Out because he's in the trenches doing it himself, so

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he knows how to do it right, and he knows

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how much time it takes and how much effort. So

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you know, he sees people throw this junk up online

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that's HD for four K, which is not there's been

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no work done, No human work is done on it, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what haunts me about the future. Are we

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going to get classic films and stuff like that and

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no one's actually going to be hand scrupping through these

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damn things and just relying on No.

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Speaker 3: I think people that are into like classic film at

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least maybe it's a maybe it's an issue with just

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YouTube because.

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Speaker 6: With like little boutiques and stuff like that, you know,

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especially now that you know cult Picks is now releasing

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a full AI generated thing. That's what That's what I

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was skipping over. Are their parent company just gonna now

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because they set that precedent that they're okay with AI,

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going to start using AI to like cut corners with

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future restorations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 6: That just because, like in.

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Speaker 4: That situation, I am a little more not forgiving. But

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essentially the way that that AI thing was set up

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with Club super eight was, I mean, it was created

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by another company and they're basically stepping up to distribute it.

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And so the company and we talked about that on

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our on our episode with them, where they just and

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I'm I'm going by context clues of what the situation

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is without them actually telling us. This is not inside info.

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This is a hypothesis I'll posit, which is that the

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company that did this is the company that bought the

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Color Climax library, which we did discuss and they said

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on our episode that they destroyed all the film elements

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because of vcality and sea sam material because they were

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a Danish foreign company that had no problems making films

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with animals and children. So rather than we through all

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of that stuff, they just destored all the film but

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color Climax also did magazines. So rather than just restore

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the films, which is what Mark Murray does, they are

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now bringing the magazines to life to replace the films

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that they destroyed. So that is my theory of what

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that is, because just going by the images I've seen

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from those magazines, it is very color Climax looking to me.

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It's very Danish looking to me. So yeah, I'm hoping

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that that this is a The response to this has

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not been good.

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Speaker 6: There's how many thousands of other adult films, including loops

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and things like that, that you could be investing money

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in towards actually restoring and bringing back to life than

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this than what is essentially making dead people fuck with AI, which.

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Speaker 4: I think is very crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we have a million better movies and things to

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do than anime then make dead people fuck via magazines?

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, you know, and it also made me think

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of something some I'm not going to say where I

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saw somebody suggest this, but someone said, well, you know,

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we could potentially use this kind of technology to go

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back to Tracy Lord's movies, use of age images of her,

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and reinsert and of age Tracy Lords into her films

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like Talk ruty Me three and Grafenburg Spot, which Grafenburg

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Spot never happened because Mitchell Brothers is an out one

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by dis A Pix.

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Speaker 3: They would never that they want they would is that

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the idea right there.

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Speaker 4: So that they wouldn't it would be not it would

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be not illegal because it's not a fifteen and sixteen

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year old girl. It is an of age. Tracy Lords

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like they could use an image from Not of This

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Earth and just bring her to life and recast the film.

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And I was like, this is the Pandora's box that

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this is opening and that is not that is not good.

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Speaker 6: It's still based on the foundation of a film where

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she was fifteen years old. That doesn't take away from it. Yeah, no,

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it doesn't at all.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. And it's also but also Tracy Laws

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is alive, so she has to then go through that

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of having of having an entire career of hers that

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she has been able to not discuss or acknowledge because

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their sims are illegal now be resurrected because of AI.

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You know, It's like it opens up a whole another

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and also there are other actresses that are underage. Alexander

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what's your face. I think Chrissara Barrington made some films

471
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:40,680
Gene Jennings Redoce devidance of Good Mister Reagan was underage,

472
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,720
Like it's a whole that basically think finding ways to

473
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:45,400
use that. And then I think that what part of

474
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920
the argument was, well, this is great because people are

475
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,640
using AI to make see Sam material, and now we

476
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,559
can do it to like replace see Sam material and

477
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,079
use and make it with adults. And I'm just like

478
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,480
making the new materialselves. I think the problem is that

479
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,720
people are fine typing things out into the computer, but

480
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,359
they don't say them out loud to hear themselves say it,

481
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:11,720
and they don't understand how insane that sounds. That it's

482
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,759
really it's insane. And by the way, a lot of

483
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,400
those masters and negatives and stuff that the Tracy Lawyer's

484
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,720
movies are gone, so it's like we're not even talking

485
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,640
about even even if this was a logical thing and

486
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,359
Tracy Lord's signed off on it, they're not going to

487
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,480
look good. We're talking about using video masters. It's just

488
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,039
every every angle of it is just is just insane

489
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,319
to me. And yeah, it's easy to post them like

490
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480
that when you're posting using like a fake name, you know,

491
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240
and it's easy to post anything on the Internet. But

492
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,079
it's just yeah, I don't I don't like it. I

493
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,440
think that if it was viewed as like an experiment,

494
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,599
which I think is eventually what they eventually just started

495
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,119
describing it as when they realized that it was, the

496
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,680
backlash was bad. I think they decided this more of

497
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,079
an experiment, and it's like, Okay, great experiments can fail

498
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,519
and you move on, and you just that experiment didn't

499
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,799
work and we're going to move on. Yeah, which I'm

500
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,720
hoping that's the best move. Yeah.

501
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,599
Speaker 6: Well, because yeah, even Raf the Bat, even Wraf the Bat, like,

502
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,880
like the quote in Variety was like the dumbest reason

503
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,960
for it. We want to use the latest technology to

504
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,000
stimulate a discussion about attitudes to images that are now

505
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:26,640
half a century old, use latest technological scanners and put

506
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,279
out a book.

507
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,799
Speaker 4: Well also, they just restored a movie that's almost fifty

508
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,039
years old and put it out in blu ray and

509
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:38,640
it's getting major response. Like that stores success story for them.

510
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,599
You don't need to do that. Yeah, And that's not answer.

511
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,960
That quote also didn't make scess to it because they

512
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,880
didn't produce this. It was something that they're distributing. They had,

513
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,160
they were not involved with us, So it's it's weird

514
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,839
that they would stump so hard for something that they

515
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,400
really were not involved with it from all all insense

516
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,599
of purposes. It's crazy.

517
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,079
Speaker 3: It's also strange because they have they have Danish pornography

518
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200
loops on their website on Cult Picks.

519
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're color Climax. I'm sure they're from video

520
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,480
transfers of color Climax stuff. Yeah.

521
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if you want to watch Danish porn,

522
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:17,000
it's on Cult Picks. You can watch it. Yeah, it's

523
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,920
not doesn't look HD, but that's not supposed to look it.

524
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:26,839
Speaker 4: Market Mark market any care of that. Actually, I'd love

525
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,680
to see Mark Murray do a Loss of Brown collection

526
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,359
because Loss of Brown's loops are like productions, they're productions

527
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,519
costume story. Like, Yeah, that would be great to get

528
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,920
a nice restored Loss of Brown collection, But that's the

529
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,599
kind of thing that I would want like Club Super

530
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,839
eight or this partner company to do, like if you're

531
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:47,880
going to do something that's focused on ther and also

532
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,240
like European porn in general is not being restored at

533
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,960
any kind of level of the American porn is being

534
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,599
restored at you know, so it's like we're not Alpha France.

535
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,039
I don't think they've been in Blu rays. If they have,

536
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,279
they're really under the radar. And they continue to cut

537
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:06,440
their movies so to put them onto a disk. So

538
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
it's like there's so much French stuff. There's German stuff,

539
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:14,359
the Josephine Mutzenbaker films, the Dangers Loss of Brown films,

540
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,400
like we there there is a market for the European stuff,

541
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,559
and so you don't need to recreate it. Just go

542
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,880
get the ship and restore it. Like I know that

543
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200
it cost money, but yeah, that that's the EXPERI I

544
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,759
would have preferred that to be the experiment. We're gonna

545
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,720
do an experiment and we're gonna restore these loss of

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,839
Brown loops and put them out and we're gonna the

547
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,680
experiment is we'll see how this sells.

548
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,279
Speaker 6: That's that's you had so many better things to do, folks.

549
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,519
You had so many better things to do, yeah than that.

550
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:47,799
Speaker 4: And it's just a boomer because I love them, and

551
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:49,480
I mean we had them on the pod and they're

552
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,119
great and I love them, and I'll you know, I

553
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,440
they just ship my order that I ordered from them

554
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,599
before this all happened, So I finally get my Cumblow

555
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,960
of the horn finally. But it's just, yeah, it's draws.

556
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,000
It basically draws concerns about how on board they are

557
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,559
with AI. And I will also say, like, I know,

558
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,039
I don't see o CN distributing this because o CN

559
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,160
is very o CN as a whole, and that covers

560
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,759
Vinigerson and Melosin. He worked with an incredible network of

561
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:25,440
like actual artists, Tony the artists, was it Tony Tony

562
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Scala that artists who just passed away like he did

563
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,039
a lot of work for them. He did a lot

564
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,400
of work for like Cinematograph and some other and other companies,

565
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
and he did major work for like Neon and other

566
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,359
other studios. And yeah, so o CN was very on

567
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240
board with him. And they utilize like actual artists for

568
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,279
their slipcovers are like a major part of their brand,

569
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,359
and they're all done by actual artists. So I think

570
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,319
it would be not a great look if they and

571
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:57,920
I think I think they're very aware of that. I

572
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960
don't think that there's enter in any entertaining this, And.

573
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: No, justin La liberty. Yeah, he's very against AI in

574
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,079
creating art. Yes, it's not even a but yeah, like

575
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,799
you said, it's just it doesn't it's not great for

576
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440
the club brand to even be associated with this because.

577
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: And they use artists for their slipcovers too.

578
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a spin this whole industry even like right

579
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:31,680
right to restoration artists, restorationists, like the list goes on.

580
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,319
You are spitting in all their faces by doing this.

581
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just around.

582
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's seting a super shitty president all around, like

583
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,680
it is what.

584
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I've heard from a few people that are

585
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,680
they're canceling their cult picks. I've heard a couple of

586
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,039
people say that obviously, like they would probably say, well,

587
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,359
it's just a few people, it's not a big deal.

588
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,759
But I just don't know why they're fighting fighting people

589
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:03,960
online about this. It's not even yours, you know, distributing

590
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,799
this for another guy.

591
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 6: I get it.

592
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,599
Speaker 3: It's an experiment.

593
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 6: Sustained a head injury to decide this was okay. Yeah,

594
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,160
that's the only logical answer.

595
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: And it's a bummer. I wonder if that's why they

596
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,599
brought up the well Club super eight. They brought that

597
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,759
up for Color Climax stuff they brought up on their own,

598
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880
but that was an I guess that it was color Climax.

599
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680
They said it was a company, the famous company, and

600
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,759
I guess it was color Climax because I know my

601
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:31,519
porn Sorry, uh, that is the biggest that is the

602
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,279
biggest producer of pornography in in Europe at that time.

603
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,240
But yeah, it's just it's kind of one of those.

604
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,240
And also but also like in terms of magazines, you know,

605
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,680
Color Climax, the BC al And and c SAM material

606
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,400
wasn't just restricted to film. They also put that stuff

607
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,079
in magazine. So it's like, did you destroy those magazines too,

608
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,759
or do you still have those magazines? Just like these magazines,

609
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,720
it's like if you were selective about destroying the magazines,

610
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,200
and why weren't you selected about destroying the film? U.

611
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,759
There's just a lot of questions and I don't and

612
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,240
I would be asking them in good faith because I

613
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,480
generally want to know I'm not I wouldn't be asking

614
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,640
to catch somebody in like a lie or or trying

615
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,279
to like do a gotcha kind of thing. I genuinely

616
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:17,960
want to know the answers to the many questions that

617
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,920
I have, but I don't think that if I ask

618
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,279
them that I'm going to be answered in a helpful

619
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,400
way to move the conversation forward. I think it's going

620
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,880
to be very defensive, and I think it's going to

621
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,279
be very coming from, let's be frank, a capitalist motive

622
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,880
instead of thinking of it in terms of like a

623
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,680
moral motive. I know, talking about morals when it comes

624
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,000
to porn very iffy. But there is a moral way

625
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,160
to do this, you know, and that this is not it.

626
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: And this thing is twenty six minutes long. I'm looking

627
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,079
at it at cult Pics right now. So it's like,

628
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,319
I think this was clearly just a way to get

629
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,960
in Variety and get their name out there a bit because.

630
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 6: But in the worst way, because now you're doing.

631
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: They were in Variety when they announced they were doing

632
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,119
partnerships with major international archives, like they talked about that too.

633
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,920
They're working with like the Hungarian Film Archive and the

634
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,360
Tie Film Archive and stuff like that's major. That's major

635
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,159
to like restore these films from countries that are not

636
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,199
getting attention for their film heritages, and now we're going

637
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,800
to be able to see them. And they're working with

638
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,519
these archives that have done this work to restore these films,

639
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,280
and they're going to be distributing them. So in those

640
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,440
film archives, I tell you right now, they're not using

641
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,960
AI to do those restorations they take. They're going back

642
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,960
to original the best sources possible. That's just not Yeah,

643
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,960
they they wouldn't be considering that. So it's they have.

644
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,599
There are so many other things they should be getting

645
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,159
pressed for, including this tie in to cume Blow the Horn.

646
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,719
That's like that's a big deal in Sweden, and it's

647
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,320
become a bigger deal, you know, and through social media.

648
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,880
But yeah, this is just it's it's a it's a

649
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,599
tainting situation and I'm hoping that they can rebound from

650
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,559
it and just be like, listen, this was a mistake,

651
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,960
you know, because I don't want to have to worry

652
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,199
about the amusing eye because they did. There was part

653
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,760
of that discussion was that, well, like, if the Sweden

654
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Film Institute Swedes Film isn't going to restore it, we

655
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,840
have to do it ourselves. And so I immediately am

656
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,920
now concerned. If you have to do it yourself, yeah,

657
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,119
are you going to be cutting corners and doing this?

658
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,639
And if that is the case, and I don't want

659
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,199
any part of it because I think it's I don't

660
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,719
like it and I will never like it.

661
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,519
Speaker 6: And also this is my final thing at the end

662
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:33,519
of the day, because you know, this is the only

663
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,519
argument that it could have possibly ever had.

664
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: But it isn't.

665
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:41,199
Speaker 6: Everyone with an Internet connection has seen that AI can

666
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,000
be very realistic and like completely accurate things like that.

667
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,599
We can't avoid that. This isn't even good AI. It's

668
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:54,559
not even good whatever technology they used, and it's that really,

669
00:35:55,039 --> 00:36:00,320
it's that really shitty waxy ass skin tone, no killing

670
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,320
the hairs. Everyone's hair looks wet and greasy. You're doing

671
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,239
all this and saying your reputation for AI that isn't

672
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,400
even good. Yeah, it doesn't even look good. There's not

673
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,760
even a grain filter on it. It looks. This looks

674
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
like a third This looks like a shady third third

675
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,280
rate horn Sight did this.

676
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

677
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: I'm not even I have any because I don't want

678
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360
to play it and give them a view on it,

679
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,400
so I can't know.

680
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 6: Look at the screen caps, they're right there, the screenshots.

681
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880
You can just see how awfulte least smeary this whole.

682
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:41,559
Speaker 4: I know I'm saving my ire for the company that

683
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960
did it there. It's bad. It's bad enough that they're

684
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,039
distributing it. I think it's something they can rebound from,

685
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:48,639
and hope they can rebound from, because all the work

686
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:53,280
they've done prior to this has been exemplary and very

687
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,840
exciting and getting like, you know, we have the Nikatsu,

688
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,679
we have the Nikotsu Sweeden porno films, we have like

689
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,480
the big Andersen renaissances on the brink ready to burst.

690
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:05,480
I need more people to start talking about her and

691
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,239
we're going to see more of her films coming out.

692
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
I hope, I mean, and Christina Lindbergh, like, you know,

693
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:14,119
there's so much good stuff they're doing that I'm really

694
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:15,559
hoping that this is kind of like, Okay, this is

695
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,039
a mistake and we're going to go back to the

696
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,320
well and focus on the ship that we did, that

697
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920
we're doing that is good work and stuff that we

698
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,599
should be proud of, because they should be proud of

699
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,800
all of that stuff, and it's just this flies in

700
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,719
the face of all of that, and I just think

701
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:33,320
I hope that social media responses, you know, accepted. I

702
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,199
hope that they are having a larger conversation about this

703
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
because it's you know, like if I found out I

704
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,840
would be this, I would be this way about anything.

705
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,880
If I found out that that, for whatever reason, UH

706
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:50,599
District Picks Society starts using AI to start restoring the

707
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,599
the Dave Friedman movies, I would be curious, like, what

708
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,280
are you talking about? What do you mean? You have

709
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,760
an in house scanner, you have the you have the

710
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,920
you can do this.

711
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,679
Speaker 3: What are you talking like applying an AI? Yeah, using

712
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,159
AI to upscale the s S you know, the S

713
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,880
video transfers or something.

714
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: Oh, take me naked. Yeah, they decided to do that

715
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:12,719
for like the all we have as a tape of that,

716
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,639
or like if they decided, well, maybe we can bring

717
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,639
Body with Female to life using footage from lessing hours

718
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,159
and the images and the skills that we have, We'll

719
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:22,519
bring all that to life and then it will be

720
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,320
like Mike Finley's movies. He was like, no, it will

721
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360
not be like that. It will absolutely not be like that.

722
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,199
Speaker 6: It's just like you do that to my milligans. And

723
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,719
I am literally going after yes.

724
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine the Filthy five is finally finished because they're

725
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,760
just bringing it back from images of the press book

726
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
and shit like that. Yeah, it's like that. That's the thing.

727
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360
It's like, and it's crazy because I'm thinking of these

728
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,760
as bad examples. The scary thing is that there are

729
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
people who will think of these as good examples of what.

730
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: They can use.

731
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: Start talking, and I'm telling you right now, I'm.

732
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 4: Using these as an example. This is basically saying, you

733
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,320
know what, really great, I'm just going to run through

734
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,320
the streets and ship and they'll get me a lot

735
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,239
of attention. And it's like, yeah, and it's a biohazard.

736
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,960
It's bad for the environment. It's morally it's morally reprehensible. Right,

737
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:13,280
It's like it basically is the same thing. Yeah, it's

738
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,639
it's it's repugnifan for the countries.

739
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,199
Speaker 6: No, I just lost good drinking water because you want

740
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,159
dead people to fuck right.

741
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: Still doesn't have clean drinking water, and we're still dealing

742
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,519
with Still. We're like, you know, they don't have clean

743
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,440
drinking water, but we still need more clean water to

744
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:34,440
handle these data centers. I'm really it's insane. Yeah, that's

745
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,280
a whole nother conversation. Yeah, Like if even if it

746
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,920
wasn't for the environment, it would just like the moral

747
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,239
implications are just so fucked. Yeah, I'm waiting for like

748
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,199
a major, a major party. Unfortunately, it be like a

749
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,519
major evil corporation to sue somebody and win, because there

750
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,159
needs to be a precedent setting case. For example, I

751
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,440
think Miyazaki or Studio Ghibli should have sued the pants

752
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,519
off of somebody using AI to create their Studio Ghibli

753
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,920
profile pictures and one, and then that would have set

754
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,800
the precedent. You cannot use trademarked or copyrighted material for

755
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,920
your AI. It's gonna take that. And that's how I've

756
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,199
had to scare. Like my favorite gay bar in town

757
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,559
has promoters that are using AI for their stuff, and

758
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:22,519
they got scared. They got sued for using a copyrighted

759
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,400
photograph in another flyer like years ago, and they got

760
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,079
sued and had to pay, And I said, do you

761
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,639
want more legal problems? That's the only reason they listened

762
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,400
to me, Otherwise they were going to keep letting the

763
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,519
organizers do it. And I said, do you want legal issues?

764
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,400
There's no precedent for this, So you're setting yourself up

765
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,800
for a lot of legal problems if this shit hits

766
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,239
the fan, which it's bound to start doing. Yeah, it's

767
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,039
it's not good. Every time I go out to a

768
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:48,519
gay bar, I have an argument about this because gay

769
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,280
people are basic. I said that during privlem Gay people

770
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,920
are like, but I want to, I want to look,

771
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,360
I want to I want to have a drawing of myself.

772
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,920
I'm like, if you were gay, don't know. If you're

773
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,320
gay and don't know an artist, what the fuck are

774
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,079
you doing with your life? You don't know one or

775
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:07,280
more artists. We are we are queer people. We are

776
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,000
supposed to be. We're supposed to be at the forefront

777
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,440
of arts, fashion, entertainment. You tell me you don't know

778
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,440
any artists that can draw you something, that can illustrate

779
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,199
something for you.

780
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's get out of my commune way.

781
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know any artists. Get the fuck out

782
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,639
of here.

783
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,159
Speaker 6: No one cares. You want art of yourself? Get out

784
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,920
of here. Everyone thinks they deserve theirselves. Every little twinkie

785
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,559
queer thinks they need to art of themselves. No, you

786
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,079
don't know, you don't, you don't, you don't.

787
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's where I'm at. Every time I go out,

788
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,719
I prepare with my parsonal my anti my anti personal.

789
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: I salute you for fighting in the good fight. Thank you.

790
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,559
Speaker 4: It's very frustrating. It's exhausting, but it is. It's it's

791
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,239
kind of like I don't know, but I don't know.

792
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,320
I'm always see I said I was gonna say ship

793
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,639
this episode, and now I am. I'm that way. I'm

794
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,079
that way about everything. I'm that way about Israel, I'm

795
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,239
that way about Yeah, I'm that way about APAC, I'm

796
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,519
that way about you know, green energy, on that way

797
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:09,679
about trans writes on that way about everything because it should. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,760
this is a complex. It's not complex.

799
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 6: It's not hard. Yeah, it's not hard. Tuplus two equals four,

800
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,199
Like this is just so simple.

801
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,559
Speaker 4: It's not complex.

802
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I was going to say. Is it's

803
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,119
like I appreciate it because I think some people do

804
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:25,679
live in a bubble where they never get any pushback

805
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,000
on stuff like this. They're like, oh wait, you know,

806
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,440
what's the big deal. You know, everybody I see is

807
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,639
doing this and making these stupid AI art and flyers

808
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,360
and all this. Jonke. It's just like, yeah, somebody has

809
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,400
to push back so that they.

810
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,119
Speaker 4: Okay, well maybe your friends, well maybe your friend sucks, sweetheart,

811
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,360
Like sorry, so I have someone who try who is

812
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,039
trying to get my phone number? Brag And gave me

813
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,119
his business card and it had AI on it. But

814
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,239
and I throw it away in the space. I said, well,

815
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,599
this is not going to my wallet.

816
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,039
Speaker 3: What was AI on it?

817
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:01,079
Speaker 4: It was an AI imagine theself like an avatar.

818
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,039
Speaker 3: Oh.

819
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,119
Speaker 4: And I threw it in the garbage in front of him,

820
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:05,840
and I was like.

821
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 6: The queer Committee AI.

822
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I'm not having this conversation with you.

823
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,559
I'm already turned off as enough as it is. I'm

824
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:17,239
going to excuse myself and go to the bathroom.

825
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's it with both? I don't know.

826
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,119
Speaker 4: I'm ten days down on this ship. Like, I don't

827
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,079
entertain it. I'm too old.

828
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: I respect that you put your morals over your libido. There.

829
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: Oh, it's very easy when I find out that somebody

830
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,679
is like a Zionist or a Republican or yeah, or

831
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:43,280
a blue Maga or people. It's not hard heart. I

832
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,519
could throw the bricks like I'm throwing it at Stonewall.

833
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:48,320
I could hit somebody out my window right now. We

834
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,360
would bang. It'd be great.

835
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not hard to move on.

836
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can afford to be picky in New York City.

837
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,239
I'll put it that way, right, Yes, I'll be.

838
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,679
Speaker 3: Let's move on one last item here. I saw the

839
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:09,719
exzuomed fest. Uh is gonna be screening a number movie

840
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,840
number five here, soft corese seventy sexploitation. I love Exzoomed

841
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,320
by the way, Yes, Exzoomed is great. I always love

842
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,280
their mystery screenings that they give little hints and you

843
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,920
kind of have to write down what you think it

844
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,760
might be. Yep. So I'm we'll be following and see

845
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,639
what that title is.

846
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 4: And they're pretty good about including sexpectation. The one I

847
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,320
went one of the ones I went to in Philadelphia,

848
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,719
it was the last movie and it was the nineteen

849
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,280
seventy seven Cinderella and that was amazing, and there were

850
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840
people who left because it was it's a long it's

851
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
a long festival. So they kept the sex for the

852
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:43,719
last and I was like, God, I'm glad. I waited.

853
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:45,599
It was like at midnight, and I was like, I

854
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:47,800
love this movie so much. And then they did a

855
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,119
three D fest. They did a three D fest and

856
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,400
they kept the three D movie secret, and one of

857
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,360
them was Love and three D. So I got to

858
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,360
see Christina Lindbergh in three D on the vig screen

859
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:00,920
and I was like, yes, thank god. Yeah, so they

860
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,199
have a Harry Garrow has a really good collection. I

861
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:04,920
will tell you anybody, if you get a chance to

862
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,599
go to an X Fest, you go. And also their

863
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,920
tickets sell out quick. Yeah, so yes, that is absolutely Yeah,

864
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,320
that's something I wish I did more often, actually, because

865
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,480
I always That's also where I saw, oh, what is

866
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,400
it five Fingers of Death for the first time on

867
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,719
the big screen. Uh, what else was in that one?

868
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,239
I went to Savage with James Inglehart, the Siria Santiago movie,

869
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,960
No Way Out, the Alan de Lan French Italian crime thriller.

870
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,599
Oh gosh, what else was there? Oh? The Face with

871
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,159
Two Left Feet, John Travolto, the Italian John Travolta rip off,

872
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,000
which now Severn's putting out that.

873
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 6: Oh, people went.

874
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,519
Speaker 4: Nuts for that in the theater. That was great. When

875
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,320
Red Nick Miller, which just came out on Blu Ray

876
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,239
two for the longest time, that was impossible to see

877
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,440
and the had a nice print of Rednick Miller. That

878
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,199
is great. That's a really good one. So yeah, they

879
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,800
really program really brilliantly. They're not just picking random prints

880
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,800
out and run into the theater and showing them like no,

881
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,679
it's it's real programming. Like they know exactly what they're

882
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:08,159
doing and they're always in the right sequence. I think

883
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:11,119
they know when a movie is like when it's time

884
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,119
to have something maybe calmer, and then amp up the energy.

885
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,679
Speaker 3: Yeah so yeah, yeah, that one's playing at seven thirty

886
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,440
five PM.

887
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,199
Speaker 4: So that's really for that.

888
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: It could be interesting. Yeah, maybe it's a little tamer

889
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:26,360
of a seventy six.

890
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 4: It might be like a new world like cheerleaders movie

891
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,360
or teachers or nurses movies. True, I didn't think, Yeah,

892
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,199
the exportation in sanity all blah blah blah. Yeah. I

893
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:37,800
mean that's the kind of the funny thing. They give

894
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,440
you these descriptions of them, and it definitely makes you wonder, like, well,

895
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000
this could be anything. It sounds great, I know, and

896
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,119
very broad. Yeah, they typically are.

897
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: We will be keeping an eye, but well, wow, let's

898
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:54,320
talk about some loving in an hour.

899
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,199
Speaker 4: Let's see you look me up the AI discuss. The

900
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,079
AI discussion woke me up. Alex was like, do you

901
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:04,840
want to take a nap before we started recording, and

902
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,079
I was like, hey, listen, you get me angry. My

903
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,840
blood boils and I get I get energized. See I

904
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,599
don't need coke. I just need to get angry and

905
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,920
stuff just make me.

906
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 6: We just need to trigger you pretty much.

907
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: Bring up any you think to make me angry.

908
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 6: Thank god, I have this on hand, Godi ship except

909
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,039
do this do that so close to you?

910
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:41,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right next to you.

911
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 6: I'm armed in case I need to defend your to

912
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,519
defend myself against this movie. With this movie, I'm ready

913
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:50,760
to hide mind.

914
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,119
Speaker 4: Actually I love that artwork. That's not going to work

915
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,119
because I'm like, beautiful artwork, shitty movie. Don't make me

916
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,079
think of Samantha Scott, though, Get a shot of her

917
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:06,840
and it'll trigger me. She's terrible, terrible implants. No, go, yeah,

918
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,679
she's Samantha Scott. She's in prison for killing her husband.

919
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:11,280
Oh yeah, that's her.

920
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 6: I totally forgot. She's she's so forget what that was her?

921
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly, worst implants ever, she's.

922
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:22,519
Speaker 6: Oh man, prison and brand of shame. What a great legacy.

923
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,119
Speaker 4: Had mistress she herself too?

924
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:27,639
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, hardly.

925
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 4: That I forget. She hangs herself really quick. Yeah, I'm like,

926
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,159
g gentle, that's what I care about and head Mistress,

927
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,440
I love her in that. That is something we need

928
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,159
to mention. The lustfle Turk and uh joys a.

929
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 6: Jeh, gentlemen.

930
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 4: Yes, we finally got we got a review from our

931
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:45,239
favorite website.

932
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:48,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it was very nice.

933
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love Nathaniel. I messaged him actually and thanked

934
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,840
him and he was like, oh, I love listening to

935
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,280
you guys. Yeah. You guys are always good, very good,

936
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,119
very appreciative.

937
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,559
Speaker 3: I'm not joking. It's my favorite website. When I say that,

938
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,519
I'm not just blowing smoke like I've been reading Mondo

939
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,840
Digital for so long. I don't know how he does it.

940
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,400
He puts so much care into these reviews.

941
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 6: And the Rock Shock Pop are the only two.

942
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ian Jane, I do love you and Jane Yeah yeah,

943
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,599
uh huh. There used me a lot more when you

944
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,199
think about it. DVD Talk used to they had better

945
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,519
reviewers at one point.

946
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: Remember driving thing I do.

947
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: I do before.

948
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:39,639
Speaker 3: Driving?

949
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: Right, it was me George Reeson, like three other people,

950
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,119
William Simmons who wrote like he was writing college essays.

951
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,679
That was a very interesting era. Yeah, but never show

952
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,239
up on on Manda Digital. I'm like, oh, thank God, Nathaniel.

953
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: I know, like I said, because because it's not I mean,

954
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,280
it's sex film release, but it's not a hardcore sex

955
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,679
film release, so you know, you finally get to he

956
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,480
doesn't cover that, right, So sometimes he does.

957
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: It depends if it's Metzker, he'll cover it. If it's

958
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,199
like Through the Looking Glass he reviewed. Sure, there's certain

959
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,880
things that he'll definitely reviewed. They have to be like

960
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,519
more crossover titles. And so that's why I like, when

961
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:21,599
I'm not on the talking I'm kind of like, oh, well,

962
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,679
now I won't have Nathaniel say my name. Saying a

963
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,199
name it's a big bomer. Yeah, So I don't know.

964
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,840
I'd love to have him on here though I've known

965
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,679
him for I've known him for so long. I've known

966
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:36,199
I've known people for way too long. If he was

967
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,760
the image when he started moving on to digital, and

968
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,320
that's why he didn't really review something weird stuff because

969
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,440
he was working with the company to put them out.

970
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: Yep. If we can pry him away from doing commentaries

971
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,280
with Eugenio Erculani, then we can get him on the show.

972
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: Oh that's something I was going to ask you. Actually

973
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,639
is is Eugenio and nepo. Baby, is he related to

974
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:03,079
Luciano Klani saying anything, No, different last name, They're not related.

975
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:10,320
It's Airly. Luciano Coli Isnarro's husband. He is Genio air Colani.

976
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Different last name, I confuse.

977
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: Them, but no. His his grandfather was in the Italian

978
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,360
film business.

979
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 7: Yes, hm hmm, so interesting and his mother.

980
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 5: Okay now was showing me now now, baby, really hurt me.

981
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: You know you're an old bom sucking to me, baby,

982
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,480
what have.

983
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,519
Speaker 3: We got here? Where do we start? Alex socket to me.

984
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 6: We're playing camp and arrest folks.

985
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: This is it?

986
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 6: You know, no would ever ever bring him up ever again.

987
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it would be a good idea to

988
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:17,639
do this, But I will.

989
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,159
Speaker 4: Also say I'm going to make an executive executive decision

990
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:29,000
for the podcast. Uh no more trilogies, No, no more. No.

991
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:31,920
I didn't have done one. We haven't even done one. Wishman,

992
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,280
we haven't done one Gary Graver, we haven't done any

993
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,840
grand place like there are filmmakers that well in one Star,

994
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,760
No one, russ Meyer, we've done no Metzker, which is fine,

995
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,320
but you know it's like three discussions and then once

996
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:54,000
you get into his biography three episodes touching this completely classless,

997
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,000
degenerate piece of ship. I'm just like, well, this is yes,

998
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:03,199
this is our this, this is this is our this

999
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,119
is our footprint, this is our podcast footprint.

1000
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 6: It's well, well, you guys asked what I wanted to do,

1001
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,000
and I actually wasn't even that you guys had done

1002
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:13,400
it before.

1003
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,159
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I really like this movie. I that

1004
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:18,840
would happened, so the truth happened by accident. I thought

1005
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,039
this was a gentry plan. But also I think the

1006
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:25,800
greater I really liked this movie. A greater takeaway for

1007
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,519
this is that, like I said in our chat, I'm like,

1008
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,039
we have been doing campus stuff for like a month

1009
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:35,840
and a half, and I'm just like, it is not yeah.

1010
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,000
It's like, it's yeah, it's it's just not it's not

1011
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:44,320
exciting or interesting to me. I will. That doesn't mean

1012
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,519
I'm not going to be up for the discussion. It

1013
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,639
just means that we've talked about him.

1014
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:52,199
Speaker 3: Wow, we didn't talk about him too much with Nathan Schiff.

1015
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,639
That was more Marzano.

1016
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: I mean he came up a lot in that conversation.

1017
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,239
Are you kidding? We found out why he shut down

1018
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,760
Venus in Furs. We found out how he tried to

1019
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,159
set as a production. We talked and that was enough.

1020
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:03,840
I didn't need to know anything more about him. After that,

1021
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,639
I was like, Oh, he's just fucking wow.

1022
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: We talked about how he dumped Janet vanse Yeah, like,

1023
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:14,039
wasn't great to hear that situation.

1024
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,119
Speaker 4: No, no, no, And I think Sean Sean Langerck who

1025
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:20,400
we talked about this. Yeah, we talked about it with Shawn.

1026
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,000
I was like, I don't want to know any more

1027
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,239
about this guy. Like he was digging into it and

1028
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,840
I was like, Sean, I love you and I love

1029
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,000
your research skills and I would die for you. But no,

1030
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,119
no o, I don't want to know any more about him.

1031
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,679
Speaker 3: Let's read Shawn's oh bit. Here's Sean's, which is Luke

1032
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,119
Sewan he was He was born in Queen's nineteen thirty four,

1033
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,679
and I don't think he ever moved out of the neighborhood.

1034
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,239
There were scenes from Curious Teenager I actually shot one

1035
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,239
block over. This is Curious Teenager is a very very

1036
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,840
obscure Luke Campa movie that Shawn has seen. He goes

1037
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,679
on to say he was initially an ambulance driver by trade.

1038
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,960
He raced stock cars in the Lake fifties into the

1039
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,800
early sixties, then became the big sleeze ball we know now.

1040
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,639
He died in nineteen ninety seven the end.

1041
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's defending myself once more. I'm interested in

1042
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:20,079
Socket to me itself and cinics, not lout. I love sins, Yes,

1043
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,079
like this is my number one SINX title. Spy who

1044
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:24,719
Came also would be a good conversation.

1045
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 4: Yes, but changes changes with SINX, so maybe be careful

1046
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,760
with that. Yeah, we have changes. Changes is kind of

1047
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,920
a master always. Yeah, that's the game changer.

1048
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 6: This pods subtitle. Okay, calm down, I.

1049
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 4: Guess changes in nineteen seventies. Technically sixty stuck in my head?

1050
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,400
All right, Okay, I tried. That is something I will say, Like, Okay,

1051
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,760
so nineteen sixty is technically the fifties. The sixties didn't start.

1052
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:51,519
A decade doesn't start until the first year. The zero

1053
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,360
is the last year of the decade. So sixty one

1054
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,679
to seventy is the sixties. So maybe that opens up

1055
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,800
more stuff for you to watch, Alex.

1056
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:04,519
Speaker 3: One year more stuff, Alex, you were.

1057
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,679
Speaker 4: Watching a lot of suff from sixty that's technically fifties,

1058
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,760
so open up and start watching a lot of nineteen

1059
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,000
seventy stuff, especial because a lot of it was shot

1060
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,880
in sixty nine, so it's technically sixties too.

1061
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay about Sean's olmit there. You know, Alex,

1062
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:23,320
you've done a little bit of research into Campa as

1063
00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:27,920
a stock car driver. Can you add anything to that discussion?

1064
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,159
Speaker 7: There?

1065
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 6: Oh, nothing interesting because all I found about like, okay,

1066
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:35,519
it's just all you can really find is just recaps

1067
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:36,360
of races.

1068
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:37,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1069
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 6: No, like, oh, let's sit down with Lou Kampa about

1070
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,280
his car or something like that. No, no, no, no, no.

1071
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:47,159
The only thing they print is just, yeah, his car

1072
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,960
turned over, he was out after the second round. Moving on,

1073
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,119
This guy came up next and to there's nothing interesting.

1074
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,760
The only interesting nugget Sean already found was that he

1075
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,840
was an ambulance driver.

1076
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,159
Speaker 4: That's it.

1077
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 6: No, there's nothing interesting about Lou Campu's stock car racing, folks.

1078
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,639
So anyone who came here really hoping that we would

1079
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:12,000
get into stock car racing, I'm very sorry. Okay, it's

1080
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,119
not your it's not your lucky day. No, no at all.

1081
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: He just he raced.

1082
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,079
Speaker 3: There are a couple of photos of him in his

1083
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:22,960
little outfit, but yeah, that's about it.

1084
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:25,239
Speaker 6: That's the only good thing photos.

1085
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,079
Speaker 3: But it is curious that even in a couple of

1086
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:31,360
the photos he is, the picture is credited Lou Campa.

1087
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, and not the name we found of Luna.

1088
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,239
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1089
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:43,519
Speaker 6: That's the only thing I'm curious about. Why you already

1090
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:45,719
named it like you know in the adult industry. Yeah,

1091
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,119
makes sense, But why you already Lou Kampa.

1092
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,119
Speaker 4: This early on?

1093
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: Mm hm hmm.

1094
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 6: But oh, well you're dead.

1095
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,039
Speaker 4: We don't know.

1096
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he.

1097
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: Had no he enough, no family. I don't know why

1098
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,119
I'm asking. No, I didn't. I didn't check. I didn't

1099
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:03,079
check myself because I don't want to talk to them.

1100
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't found anything.

1101
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,599
Speaker 6: Haven't we check too much anyway? Yeah? No, Actually I

1102
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,440
was looking more so into the like musicians of this movie,

1103
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,239
not Lou Kampa. Yeah, Sinex and people like Darling Cotton

1104
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,079
and things like that.

1105
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned sin X, but Lou was also involved

1106
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:27,239
with cam Scope and then JRL Productions was Baby Light

1107
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,239
My Fire. Do you know what the deal is with

1108
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:29,920
JR L.

1109
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 6: I'm weird out as to why he would have changed

1110
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,119
it to JRL because both those films are with Sinex.

1111
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,079
Speaker 4: It's most of the same people.

1112
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,239
Speaker 6: The only big difference between U and Light My Fire

1113
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:47,960
is Charles Carmelo was really involved in Light My Fire.

1114
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,280
And then from then on it becomes very more integrated

1115
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,079
into sin X. Like right after this he does the

1116
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,960
Master Beater, which Lou is credited for executive producing.

1117
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: And so said j g L. He was the name

1118
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,000
of the production r j r L j r L

1119
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,920
normally Religio. That's a there we go, he's executive producer.

1120
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:14,199
Actually executive producers are John Liggio and Ralph Desmond. Yeah,

1121
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,199
there you go. Actually j R L, John, Ralph and Lou.

1122
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I actually thought like were they also involved

1123
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,199
with SINX? Were at all three of those people?

1124
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: Also, sen X was a distributed distribution company, not not

1125
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,480
necessarily the production company.

1126
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1127
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: And and and also like my lit My Fire is

1128
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,559
distributed by sin X. Yeah, yeah, the production company is

1129
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:39,079
not necessarily the same as it is the distributor. Yeah,

1130
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:41,599
And like there are different there are different taxes involved

1131
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,800
with being a production company versus a distribution company. So

1132
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,960
and knowing Lou being a super Sleeds, I'm sure that

1133
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:50,440
had something to do with it, Like cam Scope is

1134
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,079
obviously campus Scope for three of those movies. And then

1135
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:56,360
I don't I think he realized that he couldn't do

1136
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,320
Ship by himself, so he had to get other partners,

1137
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,719
and so that led to.

1138
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 6: Another company, another company, very much. Yeah, you normally don't

1139
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,199
take the old company with you. You just form a new.

1140
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: One, right, right, and a lot of stuff. But it's

1141
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,239
also like whatever, I'm sure that wasn't like a public,

1142
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:21,719
publicly traded company established an established Yeah, an established, like

1143
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,119
you know, independent whatever theirs are called.

1144
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 6: No, No, absolutely not. Yeah, I don't know how involved

1145
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,960
in the next John Lego was I Okay. What was

1146
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,079
really annoying is that there is a more prominent John

1147
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:37,679
Lego in the history and he's a teenage Satin Island

1148
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:42,519
actor obviously not this guy. This guy when was her

1149
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:44,079
teenager sixty seven?

1150
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can't be him them what?

1151
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,039
Speaker 6: No, this guy's at a Catholic No, his his his

1152
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:55,039
dad was a barber who died in sixty seven. Uh yeah, no, No,

1153
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:59,199
this John Lego is a big He was involved in

1154
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:07,400
this mysterious All Film Enterprises company that Phil Peresy started.

1155
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: Up and nobody did. Actually, they were involved in a.

1156
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 6: Couple films, this little thing. Because Sean reached out pretty

1157
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,599
much just to add context people. Sean reached out and

1158
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:20,400
set found these two articles about the formation of this

1159
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:25,559
production distribution company called All Film Enterprises that Phil Perice's

1160
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:34,519
started and Lou Kampa was another head in it. At first,

1161
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,719
didn't seem like they had even done anything, but no,

1162
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,519
they put out Marital Fulfillment and Ali they say for

1163
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,480
some reason. Here here's what the article I found is,

1164
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:49,440
I'll just read it out. After launching Marital Fulfillment, All

1165
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,719
Film Enterprises plans to concentrate on an annual release schedule

1166
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,679
of six to ten features for which they will produce themselves,

1167
01:01:55,719 --> 01:02:00,880
which with budgets averaging around fifty thousand, yeah, they absolutely

1168
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,400
will be spending that much. Company has been has a

1169
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:09,360
batch of acquired sex sploiters in release, including oddly enough,

1170
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:13,599
Come On Baby, Light My Fire, which I don't think

1171
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:18,800
they did, but Electronic Years did seventy. This is this

1172
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,440
article is a variety May thirteen, nineteen seventy. Come On

1173
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,199
Baby came out in late sixty nine.

1174
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: When did Senex get taken over by Delaimos?

1175
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,159
Speaker 3: Though I want to say so, because it's possible.

1176
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: It's possible that they had they shed all the pre

1177
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:37,440
all the pre Dilaymos stuff from Senex in order to

1178
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:40,039
move on, and so they might not have They might

1179
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:41,719
not have had come I'm gonna be Light in my

1180
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,400
Fire as a Senex release for that long before that

1181
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,840
legal issue. And that's why All Films was able to

1182
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,199
distribute it, because it wasn't Oh yeah, you're right, that

1183
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,159
was It was sold.

1184
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 6: In December nineteen sixty nine.

1185
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so it was barely out then, yeah, okay,

1186
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,239
barely well, so that and that also makes sense because

1187
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,719
I don't think Campo was really involved with Senex after

1188
01:03:03,719 --> 01:03:06,719
a certain point either because Deleamos I'm sure didn't really

1189
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,639
want to deal with his ass.

1190
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly so, So so he moves over into this

1191
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,840
All Film Enterprises, John Legio was the general manager. Things

1192
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,480
that they were supposed to produce was Forbidden Fruit, a

1193
01:03:20,519 --> 01:03:24,559
study of pornography in America by Ford Sebastian, and I

1194
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:25,760
wonder if that ended.

1195
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: If Red, White and Blue.

1196
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 6: This did not, I exactly as I'll say, because by

1197
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,239
nineteen seventy one, like All Film, seems to have died.

1198
01:03:33,239 --> 01:03:38,599
Phil Pereis's over with Brianston. So did Ford take that

1199
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:41,360
project and make all Red, White and Blue?

1200
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:45,559
Speaker 4: I bet because Marridi fulfilment is Ford. So if they

1201
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:50,079
acquired that for all film whatever and it was a

1202
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,360
third one, then that's possible, and then he eventually knew

1203
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,119
that he could deal with Friedman easier.

1204
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,079
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1205
01:03:58,159 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like Freedom wasn't involved. I don't.

1206
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,840
I think Freedman was involved producing that, So I feel

1207
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,599
like maybe they produced that independently and then sold it. Well,

1208
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:06,760
they didn't sell it to Freedman because then they sued

1209
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,559
something weird for putting it out discontinue. I think they

1210
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:11,679
sell the rights to it.

1211
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 6: Well, Friedman didn't. He only had it for theatrical for

1212
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,079
limited amount of time. That's how he had so then.

1213
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember yeah, so essentially basically like Elphins were in

1214
01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:25,079
his library, but he didn't own it. Well, it's just

1215
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:26,960
that print. I don't even think it was a negative.

1216
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,920
I don't think. Trying to remember now, but that makes sense.

1217
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Then So then if if they said they were going

1218
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,280
to help finance it, and then Ford was like, you

1219
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,360
know what, pass, well, just fine as this on our own,

1220
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,039
and then uh and then licensed it to Freedman or whatever.

1221
01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 6: I guess something fell through because this company was formed

1222
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,199
in nineteen seventy and Philip Precy left it by nineteen

1223
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,760
seventy one, and there's no other mention of it anywhere

1224
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,960
else past nineteen seventy.

1225
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: It's almost like Kampa is they.

1226
01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 6: Can't is the problem?

1227
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: Camp I can't work with people. It's almost like camp

1228
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:04,800
I can't work with people.

1229
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 6: Interesting, Yeah, I would have thought.

1230
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:10,039
Speaker 4: Would have left a Branston actually though, But considering that

1231
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:13,360
his his well, his claims to be tied to organized crime,

1232
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,719
I don't know if that's true.

1233
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:18,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, any but anyone I've heard that to cooperate

1234
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:22,559
that rumor? Isn't every infactual other things like? No, I've

1235
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:26,119
never heard anyone reliable cooperate that, right.

1236
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,119
Speaker 4: I think a lot of Italian people will claim to

1237
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,480
be connected with them all because who's going to deny it.

1238
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,480
I was going to research that.

1239
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 6: Oh no no, no, no, no no no. Being half Italian,

1240
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,440
I can completely confirm that Italian old man love to

1241
01:05:39,559 --> 01:05:43,559
just yeah yeah, yeah, fun.

1242
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,519
Speaker 4: Thing to like. It's a nice fun like bragging, right

1243
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:47,960
or something. It's that can be like a threat, you.

1244
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: Know, well he yeah, apparently he did use it as

1245
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:51,840
a threat.

1246
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 6: According to Shift, Yeah right right, terrible, terrible, Yeah, no, no,

1247
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,679
I don't think any bobsters what even wanted to put

1248
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,960
up with Campa, Like I just.

1249
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,599
Speaker 4: Didn't want to deal with well, they just say know

1250
01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:09,079
they were just like you're you're a lot. Well, just

1251
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:10,519
we don't need to deal with this. Do we need

1252
01:06:10,519 --> 01:06:12,639
someone who's gonna say yes to what we want and

1253
01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:16,159
not you know, try to take control of shit. And

1254
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,719
based on Marzano's experiences with him, it's like Campa was

1255
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:22,159
campus seemed like to he had a he had to

1256
01:06:22,199 --> 01:06:24,559
have a sense of control at some point, which wasn't

1257
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,079
there for cool Baby, but eventually it became more of

1258
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,159
like a control thing for him. And then working with

1259
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,079
what Charles Carmelo, Charles Carmelo totally, yes, man, I mean

1260
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:37,559
Carmelo finished legacy of Satan. Was that Carmelo because Domiano

1261
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:39,880
was fired off of the Legacy of Satan, he didn't

1262
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,480
even finish it.

1263
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:45,559
Speaker 6: Was involved in Briante, right right.

1264
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: Yes, because I think he he was much easier to

1265
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,000
work with than Domiano was, because you know, Doniano at

1266
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,719
some point was kind of like, you know what I've

1267
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:55,280
had it, so yeah, I think I think it was

1268
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,880
Carmelo who finished that a legacy of Satan. That's why

1269
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,639
his name on it.

1270
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 6: On his to Brianston after Sinex was sold.

1271
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: That makes sense. And Delamos, though, I would love to

1272
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,920
know what happened see Delamos, I'm much more interested in

1273
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:14,920
than camp especially because he started like from nothing in

1274
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,360
Boston and the mirrors brought him in and then he

1275
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,400
did that terrible kidne in a cage and then somehow

1276
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:23,400
thought sin X would be a good a good business

1277
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:29,400
venture after it tanked. Yes, I'd love to know what

1278
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,480
happened to him. That's someone I'd like to I should

1279
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,679
research more. Especially.

1280
01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only thing I'm curious about is this film

1281
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:39,679
Artist Funny enough is this is Artist Studio Secrets and

1282
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:42,440
how all these guys got involved and then it broke

1283
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,400
off for a little bit because there's a break. Yeah. Yeah,

1284
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,559
it has like our CEO Secrets, awful film folks. But

1285
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:56,000
Campa produces it out of the blue after stop car

1286
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:01,880
racing and appears in it all that, I swear, I swear.

1287
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,159
Where's the credit the director of that film?

1288
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:08,079
Speaker 3: What was his name was? JH?

1289
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, who also stars as the leading guy. Looks a

1290
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:18,680
lot like Larry Crane, heavier Larry Crane. I'm still I

1291
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,399
don't know whether to die on that hill if that's

1292
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,600
Larry Crane or not. Yeah, that might be him. Carmelo's

1293
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,760
also involved in that one, and as always Bill Lester

1294
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:30,720
is involved in that one.

1295
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,239
Speaker 4: Then for some odd reason, they all split off and

1296
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:33,600
some of.

1297
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 6: Them just disappear for a little bit. Yeah until until,

1298
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,920
like like Alex was saying, Kembu pops up again, he

1299
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:43,840
was somewhere behind the scene, Like where where do you

1300
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,960
go once you're in this business and come back to

1301
01:08:48,079 --> 01:08:49,079
produce three films?

1302
01:08:49,159 --> 01:08:49,359
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1303
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,319
Speaker 3: Maybe non film stuff, Yeah, just doing some shady non

1304
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,199
film stuff possible.

1305
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,319
Speaker 6: Maybe, or again, just somewhere behind the scenes trying to

1306
01:08:58,319 --> 01:08:59,840
set up shitty corporations.

1307
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1308
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 6: That kept falling through, like we don't know, unfortunately, but

1309
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,439
somehow he finds the money two back three films.

1310
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you, like, how involved do

1311
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,880
you think Campa was in Soka to me baby? Do

1312
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:21,520
you think that was like his baby, his baby through

1313
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:21,920
and through?

1314
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get the feeling it is. It's a very

1315
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:30,000
camp of film. But if you ask me as compared.

1316
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,439
I mean, we're getting back into the I feel like

1317
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,920
Camp is the only one actually that I can think of,

1318
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:39,960
who had his films concerning besides Comma, Baby, Light My Fire.

1319
01:09:40,079 --> 01:09:45,640
Sex with adolescents starts off in miniskirt Love with seducing

1320
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,359
a little boy. Now we're into Socket to me and

1321
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,680
we're getting gross with a teep with a fifteen year

1322
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,439
old girl, and then come on, Baby is also just

1323
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,760
nasty and odd, but in a different in a different

1324
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,000
ass way, kidnapped being.

1325
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 3: This more age appropriate way.

1326
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, in a more age appropriate way. But it still

1327
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,560
has some gross stuff.

1328
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, so much gross stuff. I mean

1329
01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:18,199
Larry Hunters like playing you know, brown face, uh, Mexican stereotype,

1330
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:20,159
like jerking off on his poncho.

1331
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,159
Speaker 6: Uh, and water sports as well, give me another exploitation

1332
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:28,600
fil Yeah. So it's all like all the canvas direct

1333
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,520
troll stuff is the same gross stuff in one way

1334
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,119
or another, just occasionally shot better than others.

1335
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: Well yeah, manskirt lover shot way better than this. This

1336
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,960
is this had multiple sequences, long sequences out of focus,

1337
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:46,479
and I'm just like, yeah, this is the one. This

1338
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:47,199
is a step down.

1339
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:49,239
Speaker 6: One of the things that I will say, Yeah, what

1340
01:10:49,359 --> 01:10:51,960
happened you made? Why did you put Bill Lister on

1341
01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:54,359
sound when he already showed that he could shoot things? Fine,

1342
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:59,439
where's lou waldeck bh style? You know, pH style shoots done?

1343
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: Was like, I'm not doing this show. He was, okay.

1344
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,319
It's like I've had enough, Alo, I'm not dealing with

1345
01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:07,600
him no more. And I'm like, yeah, that's what happens.

1346
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,239
Your quality drops because you piss off people who know

1347
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:12,039
what the fuck they're doing exactly.

1348
01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 6: And the mysterious Beach Dial shoots Light My Fire, which

1349
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,640
isn't as good as Waal Deck's work, but it's definitely

1350
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:23,159
not It's definitely a step up from this guy. Uh

1351
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:28,560
Dan McCann, whose only other credits are once again another

1352
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,520
Oh yeah, Larry Crane. I keep on, I keep on

1353
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,960
mixing Larry Crane. I'm gonna be mixing Larry Crane and

1354
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,560
Larry Hunter guys throughout this episode.

1355
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,279
Speaker 3: Who also Larry alsoeer and director. Yeah, Larry Hunter. The

1356
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,000
greatest living sex living I hope, yeah, not living.

1357
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,039
Speaker 4: Jesus, stop it.

1358
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 6: Oh my god, stop that talks to him. I love

1359
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,880
Talking'd be like he'd be like five years old.

1360
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no way.

1361
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 6: Oh well, I faided him, let me go. Yeah, but

1362
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:03,359
the camera work is shooting the worst Larry Crane films.

1363
01:12:03,399 --> 01:12:07,920
Technically all women are bad and love hate that moment, right,

1364
01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:10,920
So why did you pick this guy to shoot Socket

1365
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,039
to me? Baby? You have so many better people. Maybe

1366
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:15,479
that was it.

1367
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he would do whatever lou told him to do.

1368
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:20,920
It wasn't he was. It wasn't gonna deal with a

1369
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,319
Marzano or somebody who was gonna tell him I have

1370
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:25,760
to frame this correctly, or I have to set up

1371
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,079
the lights correctly. It was just some guy like, yeah,

1372
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,600
she will do whatever. Yeah, Like that's what happens when

1373
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,319
you're not working with technical professionals.

1374
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,359
Speaker 6: If you ask me, the lights are the lights aren't

1375
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,640
horrible in some of this, but like it's it's a lens.

1376
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,239
You can't even focus a lens.

1377
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: Are pot in a shot with like one outdoor security light?

1378
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:48,680
Like it's just like it's so bad. No, it's it's

1379
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,439
very it's very badly photographed.

1380
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 3: What about this Ronald Edwards who is apparently the writer

1381
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:56,960
on both Uh, Socket to me and come on, baby,

1382
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,439
it's a real person. We don't even know.

1383
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 6: It was just trying to.

1384
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:06,359
Speaker 4: Why would why would we know that? We've been doing

1385
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:08,159
this too long for to be asking. So this random

1386
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,359
personally has two credits, like what do we know about him?

1387
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 6: Hey?

1388
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:13,199
Speaker 3: It's what do you think we know about him?

1389
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,199
Speaker 4: That's like so smith like he did this.

1390
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,199
Speaker 3: It doesn't help that his name is, yeah, Ronald Edwards.

1391
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:22,399
That certainly doesn't help.

1392
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,520
Speaker 4: What else would we possibly know?

1393
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 6: Hey?

1394
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 3: Else is dug up from some like.

1395
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: I would be wildly impressed if you've found anything more

1396
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,199
of Ronald Edwards.

1397
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,039
Speaker 3: Nothing on Ronald Edwards?

1398
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: Right, No, no, no, don't either, because we don't have

1399
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:43,880
a goddamn clue.

1400
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,399
Speaker 3: No tragedy, tell me everything.

1401
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's terrible. Oh but to me, she's

1402
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:58,000
fascinatingly terrible. Yeah, she's trying to go this. She could

1403
01:13:59,359 --> 01:14:01,640
and she's not. She could have been. I even like

1404
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,279
Patty Wymer and the babysit are better.

1405
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,079
Speaker 3: Oh No, she's way too awkward to be a Stacey Walker.

1406
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,439
She's no confidence.

1407
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 6: I think she's wonderfully awful, But I love that. I

1408
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,159
don't know why.

1409
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 4: I don't know why I prefer the girl from the

1410
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,359
Alley Trent better than her. Yeah, Like, no, if you're

1411
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:20,399
going to be endearingly awful. Be endearingly awful. What is it?

1412
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 6: What is it?

1413
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,399
Speaker 4: Gentry? We Gentry and I agree, be Camp own it

1414
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,520
and she does not own it. Dissy Donovan would have

1415
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,600
in this role, actually would have.

1416
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, put her hair in pigtails. Yeah, Dixie and Donovan

1417
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:34,239
if Luke.

1418
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:38,239
Speaker 4: Can't but deserve any of those girls though, No, that's

1419
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:40,680
why they are stars in this I think he That's

1420
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,079
the thing that's when you think about it.

1421
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:43,239
Speaker 6: I love Larry Hunter.

1422
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,279
Speaker 4: No women man are men are not stars or exploitation.

1423
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:50,680
We're going to have that conversation. We'll have that conversation.

1424
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:52,439
Expetation is about the women.

1425
01:14:53,119 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it is. But except for Larry Hunter. No, no, no,

1426
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,159
I'll fight with Larry Hunter. I'll fight for Larry Hunter. No,

1427
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:00,439
fight for Larry Hunt on.

1428
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 4: What, based on what.

1429
01:15:02,079 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 6: I don't care. I'm gonna because I love him. It up.

1430
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:06,960
I don't care if you think.

1431
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:14,039
Speaker 4: You are you you think he's terrible, I answer Cargo.

1432
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 3: Listen, okay, Lucky Cargo. I will give you Larry Okay.

1433
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 6: I can't stand Lucky.

1434
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,119
Speaker 3: Larry Hunters like the Robert Downey Jr. Of exploitation.

1435
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Gentry. No, no, maybe not Robert Downey,

1436
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,159
but he is. Shane is a Robert Downey Jr. Of exploitation.

1437
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:40,840
Thank you New York. Though in New York, no, Frank

1438
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,199
Spencer is the Robert Downey junior of New York's exploitation.

1439
01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 8: He Spencer, he was, he gives nothing. Frank Spencer, just

1440
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:53,039
cut Frank. Frank Spencer can't emote Larry Hunter. Think of

1441
01:15:53,319 --> 01:15:56,600
good not well, I'm trying to think of a good

1442
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,199
Frank Spencer ever. Could Robert Downey Jr.

1443
01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:06,119
Speaker 4: Because he's he's not young. He's more like he's the

1444
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:09,920
George Kennedy of New York's expectation. M hmm. And that

1445
01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:12,039
you can't believe that he won an oscar? Who did

1446
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:15,279
you say? Okay, George Kennedy. He's like George Kennedy.

1447
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:22,199
Speaker 3: That's a little too old now maybe a little younger. Yeah,

1448
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:26,720
maybe like a method actor, a modern method actor.

1449
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,199
Speaker 4: You're really giving him a lot on him. Oh my god, Jesus,

1450
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:39,159
he's John Alderman. This isn't John Alderman. But like John

1451
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,640
is a talent. Oh you know what is he's a student.

1452
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,279
He's at Lancaster. Is too old too. See, I'm trying

1453
01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:48,359
to think of like New York has nothing, Casey, there's

1454
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,479
no true are you kidding? Shep Wilde was working at

1455
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,439
this time. Alex Man was working at this time. Man's

1456
01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:01,399
just pretty. He's just pretty. That's it. Uh, he can't either. Actors.

1457
01:17:02,359 --> 01:17:05,520
Frederick Forrest was acting at this time. He was in

1458
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,920
One Little Thing for and Anthony he was working at

1459
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,479
this time. There are so many other people working in

1460
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,960
stage at that time. Larry Hunter, I could see being

1461
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,119
rejected every audition for a play in New York.

1462
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,079
Speaker 3: No way, No, he's terrible.

1463
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: He's terrible. I'm sorry, he's not good, He's never been.

1464
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,199
Speaker 3: I love it, though.

1465
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 6: I'll happily keep done on this hill. Okay, moving on.

1466
01:17:31,279 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 4: Which is crazy. You're gonna die on the Larry Hunter hill. Yes,

1467
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,880
I love which is insane.

1468
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:40,279
Speaker 3: The thing about Larry whenever Larry Hunter shows up in

1469
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:41,760
a movie, he makes it better.

1470
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: That's that's my Yeah.

1471
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,520
Speaker 6: He makes everything more rantaining because he's putting everything into it.

1472
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,560
This sporting house, the John in the sporting House, like there,

1473
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,960
I can think of a bunch of other ones.

1474
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 3: Get gets kicked in the balls and sporting house.

1475
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I love that.

1476
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:01,159
Speaker 6: I love my Actually murders the French girl in this Yes,

1477
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,479
I love him in this sporting House.

1478
01:18:07,319 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 4: No, thank you. I'm still trying to think of a

1479
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,560
good comparison. Yeah, you're right, Kennedy's too old. You're right.

1480
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,199
I'm trying to think so funny enough.

1481
01:18:37,279 --> 01:18:39,520
Speaker 6: Lou Waldeck did leave after those three films. I just

1482
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,319
found him in Sugar Daddy shooting that. That's why I

1483
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:43,359
want his Sugar Daddy.

1484
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 4: But that's Larry Crane, right. Oh, Cap did make that too, right, Yeah,

1485
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,680
I produced it. Well, it's possible that was made, but

1486
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,079
that might have been made before soccer to me, baby.

1487
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just correcting you

1488
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,920
about after the three films. Lou Waldeck didn't.

1489
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, that's all. That's all. Oh no, that's

1490
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,880
all I'm saying. That's all by the time he was gone. Yeah,

1491
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,880
because he didn't get back.

1492
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,159
Speaker 6: No, no, no, Sugar Daddy definitely came first. Also because

1493
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:12,439
songs and Sugar Daddy are recycled in this movie.

1494
01:19:13,159 --> 01:19:17,319
Speaker 4: Ah, okay, that the Devil was that? Where does Devil

1495
01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:18,039
and Velvet Fall?

1496
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's sixty seven, that's not even sinex box office.

1497
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: Oh, we're we're focusing on Sinex. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1498
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,039
you're right, okay, right earlier.

1499
01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: Then, well let's talk about the music, because you said

1500
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,439
you were looking at some of the music for Soccer

1501
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:34,760
to me.

1502
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was. I mean, I was just trying

1503
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,560
to find stuff about Darling Cotton because I don't know,

1504
01:19:40,319 --> 01:19:42,600
I don't like Soccer. To me, the song for some reason, I.

1505
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,319
Speaker 4: Really like terrible Yeah that song, and down by the River,

1506
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,640
which is in the trailer, I'm like, okay for for

1507
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,560
a lump me, I'm like, okay, all right, Not that

1508
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,560
I tried to find them about.

1509
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 6: She was just a little she didn't do much. He

1510
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,319
was a little actress and singer who was And you

1511
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:03,319
know she's she has that great dancing in Sex Perils

1512
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:07,239
of Paulette, right, she is absolutely fantastic.

1513
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: But it's curious that she's not an actor in this movie.

1514
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,079
She just does the music.

1515
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 4: She's just no. Yeah, you think she's gonna be in

1516
01:20:14,119 --> 01:20:14,640
this movie?

1517
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1518
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,399
Speaker 4: You think she performs?

1519
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 6: She performs the Sugar Daddy. She was more involved in that.

1520
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,640
And then I'll know how on earth Luke Kampa like

1521
01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:27,840
it drew her in just to do well then it's

1522
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,760
not a good song anyway, Like like was he just

1523
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,640
like can you just quickly do this theme song.

1524
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think of what the connection is

1525
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,600
because like the last before she did this, well, she

1526
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,399
was the big thing that I know were from She's

1527
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,039
the she was the choreographer on Teenage Gang Dance, So

1528
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:44,359
the black Belt Dance is completely her creation.

1529
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 6: The connective tissue between this is Sugar Daddy, right, But

1530
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,880
then then now she get involved with that, probably Larry Crane, Larry,

1531
01:20:51,039 --> 01:20:54,000
because I feel like Larry Crane wrote the songs. Larry

1532
01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:55,920
Crane wrote the song, she performed them.

1533
01:20:56,359 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 4: Ah but Larry, wait, how was Larry Crane connected to

1534
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,039
Teenage Gang Dance or anything else she did? I'm not

1535
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:05,159
I'm trying to find that, Yeah, because I know, like

1536
01:21:05,279 --> 01:21:07,079
she did sex Girls a Paullett, which are shot by

1537
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:09,439
Chuck and then Chuck with c I P. And then

1538
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,520
c IP and Chuck did Teenage Gang Deps So that

1539
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,720
makes sense. But yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

1540
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder if.

1541
01:21:19,119 --> 01:21:24,279
Speaker 4: Estancially Yeah, interesting, Okay, I mean she's substantially like she

1542
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,880
had a career, you know, He's so.

1543
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 6: I have as of her performing live at like clubs

1544
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,800
and things like that. She did have a small singing career.

1545
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,039
Speaker 4: So I'm just kind of like, why is she involved

1546
01:21:38,079 --> 01:21:40,439
with this piece of ship. It's just like, oh my god,

1547
01:21:41,079 --> 01:21:44,520
yeah it's I don't know, and using her real name too.

1548
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,439
It's like, at least at least don't put your name

1549
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:47,359
on it, you know.

1550
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,319
Speaker 6: Again, I really feel like loose and outconder into do

1551
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,960
quickly doing this silly song which is just her going

1552
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,039
stalking to me, baby, talking to me, baby, talking to

1553
01:21:56,119 --> 01:22:01,840
me baby. Then she wore, now try to out of

1554
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,800
Is there sixties way to block people's numbers?

1555
01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:11,319
Speaker 4: Change your number? I don't know. I don't know. It's

1556
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,560
very strange. I wonder if it was it might have

1557
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,000
been a promise of like a bigger payday than he

1558
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:18,439
was going to give her. I don't know. I don't know.

1559
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,079
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe the thing that I found weirder is that

1560
01:22:21,279 --> 01:22:24,119
is okay. The Year two thousand is a band that

1561
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:27,840
was based out of Florida, and the two songs they're

1562
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,800
credit you can find those. They're from Cheetah in Perfect Love.

1563
01:22:31,399 --> 01:22:34,439
They are probably to the best tracks in this as well.

1564
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,479
Those came out in sixty eight in their only album,

1565
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,159
A Musical Odyssey. I'm not sure if you actually got

1566
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,039
permission to use it, that's the thing I'm like. But also,

1567
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:46,560
why would you credit them if you stole it?

1568
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:50,319
Speaker 4: Right? So that's very confusing. That's interesting.

1569
01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:54,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, the two great psych rock instrumentals in this that's

1570
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:54,880
from them.

1571
01:22:55,039 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 4: But well, I wonder if it was a situation, Like

1572
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,399
there's always connections with in New York and Florida. So

1573
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,439
I wonder if maybe he like had a family member

1574
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,840
in Florida who was involved with like their music career

1575
01:23:06,079 --> 01:23:08,760
or something and was like, here, put this in your movie.

1576
01:23:10,079 --> 01:23:12,520
Crazier things have happened. Yeah, I don't know.

1577
01:23:13,119 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1578
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and whoever sung that? The the one that's bothering

1579
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,800
bothering me the most because I like it. You wouldn't

1580
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,319
say what you want. I'm really preparing myself for this episode.

1581
01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:26,159
Speaker 4: Now say what you want.

1582
01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 6: But whatever that rock that little song is at the

1583
01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:32,479
end where the teenagers are dancing to when he wakes

1584
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,039
up in the bedroom, nobody cares what happens.

1585
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 3: M h.

1586
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 6: Anyone out there who knows anything about that, please hook

1587
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:40,279
me up.

1588
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:46,399
Speaker 4: I want the Shazam wasn't helpful, No, no, sometimes it is.

1589
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:47,479
Sometimes it surprises you.

1590
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 6: But no, yeah it's not. It's not credited, so you

1591
01:23:51,079 --> 01:23:51,920
might have stolen it.

1592
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 4: Is it not? It could not be another song from

1593
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,399
that record that we just don't know. Oh oh, you

1594
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,159
listen to the whole thing.

1595
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:00,279
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, lesson.

1596
01:24:00,319 --> 01:24:03,359
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I could think of. Yeah, that's interesting.

1597
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,079
Speaker 6: Okay, it's the only song that's not credit to Darling

1598
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:09,640
Cotton or the Cheetahs or your two thousand chetas. Yeah

1599
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:10,239
you're two thousand.

1600
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, yeah, okay. Interesting. So wherever that what if

1601
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,119
it's a record that Darlene I wonder if it's a

1602
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:18,880
record that they recorded as like a demo.

1603
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,119
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know her voice.

1604
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:24,039
Speaker 4: Darlene's just like, oh yeah, maybe not maybe the other

1605
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:29,800
maybe the band then if not her, that's like the

1606
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,079
garage BANDY did the music for all the Cooler Baby

1607
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:36,239
Venus and Furs and means Your Love there. That was

1608
01:24:36,319 --> 01:24:39,199
like an actual band. Apparently it was. I don't remember

1609
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:41,199
what Nathan said, but it was a real band. He

1610
01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:43,560
knew the name of them. I don't remember who they were.

1611
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,199
Now I'll have to go back to this of that episode.

1612
01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:46,960
But I'm like, oh, I need to find more recordings

1613
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,239
by that band, because I love the Garas music and

1614
01:24:49,359 --> 01:24:51,960
those I would have loved to hear it in this actually,

1615
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:54,479
like that would have been a nice little continuity across

1616
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,520
the board. But it's kind of like it's like it's

1617
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,479
almost like that music is like Camscope only it's like,

1618
01:25:01,039 --> 01:25:03,680
let's start fresh with something else, right, Let's not do

1619
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,560
the good music from from the camp Scope movies.

1620
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, even none of the stock music that's using those things.

1621
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, very strange.

1622
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,119
Speaker 6: What did you forget these tracks? We switched offices? Like

1623
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:19,439
where did these all these recorings go? We're just Sex's fold.

1624
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:26,319
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of music, I mean both of these movies

1625
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:31,960
are based on their capitalizing on hit songs. Is there

1626
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,640
anything to say?

1627
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 6: Right?

1628
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:35,079
Speaker 4: I mean, actually I would have loved to be a

1629
01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:37,880
just stolen the Mitch Rider and the Detroit Wheel song,

1630
01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:44,960
and nobody listen, I'm gonna say it, I say it now,

1631
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:47,039
and I'll say it about then. Nobody was suing nobody

1632
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:49,159
for including stolen music and movies at that time.

1633
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 6: I'd most say led Zeppeling.

1634
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,319
Speaker 3: I mean that was like the number one song for

1635
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:55,359
a long time.

1636
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,319
Speaker 4: It was like nobody, nobody from the record company was

1637
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:00,920
going to go see this be in a sluzy theater

1638
01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:03,399
and then have to admit that they saw it and

1639
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,960
then make That's that's the reason why a lot of

1640
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,760
these producers were like, ye know, we can just put

1641
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,920
whatever we want. At some point they realized, well, we

1642
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,840
could do what we want because nobody's gonna do a

1643
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,560
damn thing about it. So he could have totally done that.

1644
01:26:16,079 --> 01:26:17,239
That would not have been a problem.

1645
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:18,359
Speaker 3: That would have been funny.

1646
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,039
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I think because a lot of people

1647
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:23,439
who weren't doing it were from like studio background, so

1648
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,039
they knew that you technically could do it. But then

1649
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:28,119
once you had people who were not involved with studio

1650
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:30,880
backgrounds or Hollywood background, so we're just like, I'll just

1651
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,159
drop a needle on like my favorite hit records and

1652
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,640
it'll be fine, don't worry about it, And it was

1653
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,279
nobody's had a damn thing. Yeah, So that's one of

1654
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:41,479
my favorite things about these movies are the stolen tracks,

1655
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,399
except when you can't find them, and then it's really frustrating. Yeah.

1656
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what pisses me off the most about this movie.

1657
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: Actually, Gentry, I dare you to put the Mitch Rider

1658
01:26:52,079 --> 01:26:52,960
song on this episode.

1659
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: No, I won't, but I will.

1660
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,119
Speaker 4: You too. Well, I'll let you do that.

1661
01:27:00,279 --> 01:27:04,199
Speaker 3: I will flip the other ones. Thoy'll probably yeah.

1662
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,199
Speaker 4: Light my fire, right, do the do the do the

1663
01:27:08,279 --> 01:27:12,079
Jose Feliciano version, not the doors one. I like the hos.

1664
01:27:12,399 --> 01:27:16,439
I like the Feliciano version to all right, but.

1665
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean clearly he's you know, whatever got his

1666
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,960
ear to the ground of bits here.

1667
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Just well, that's why Devil and Velvet maybe should have

1668
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,079
been Devil with the Blue Dress another mitch Rider song.

1669
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:28,880
That would have been great.

1670
01:27:30,039 --> 01:27:32,319
Speaker 6: Oh they didn't. They did.

1671
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 4: That was their first I think it was one of

1672
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:36,319
the earlier ones. Devil with the Blue Dress on was

1673
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:38,800
mitch Rider too, That would have been better than Devil

1674
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,279
and Velvet.

1675
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:50,119
Speaker 3: No bad for Sunday will be, Monday will be he said,

1676
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:51,279
O bad?

1677
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: I wa.

1678
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

1679
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,359
Speaker 6: Devil in Velvet and as a whole is such a

1680
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,720
weird movie. It's a courtroom procedural where the mart the

1681
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:13,880
marquis is on trial. But it's a comedy. It's it's

1682
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,079
not sadistic movie. It's like played for laughs.

1683
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:22,520
Speaker 4: Man, I'm kind of into that is No, it's no, he's.

1684
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,359
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm just based off of one of those

1685
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,000
oddly detail which is oddly detailed. But yeah, it's very

1686
01:28:33,039 --> 01:28:36,239
obviously played for laughs. And I don't know. I don't

1687
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:39,279
find Larry Crane funny interesting.

1688
01:28:40,039 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 4: So I have my opinions on one Larry, and you

1689
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:50,159
have your opinions on another. Interesting Yeah, funny. I have

1690
01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:51,880
still haven't seen Who Are the Black Widow, so I

1691
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,079
can't say whether is funny or not. And Private Relations

1692
01:28:54,119 --> 01:28:55,399
I've not seen it either, so.

1693
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,159
Speaker 3: Okay, well I don't remember laughing out loud it.

1694
01:29:00,359 --> 01:29:02,520
Speaker 4: Wait, isn't Private Relations? Isn't the one that you put

1695
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,720
clips of of Ericsson doing dialogue?

1696
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1697
01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:07,119
Speaker 4: I mean it's a good line.

1698
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not because it's supposed to be funny,

1699
01:29:12,079 --> 01:29:13,640
just because it's uda being cute.

1700
01:29:14,319 --> 01:29:17,079
Speaker 4: Well, right, I would, I would, Yeah, exactly, I would.

1701
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:18,840
But see that's the thing, the way you are with

1702
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,960
Larry Hunter on the way with already don't ever come

1703
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:26,239
for I will die ericson hill. Yeah, we would never Okay,

1704
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:30,720
give me the same respect god, ok Now, I would

1705
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,119
never respect a man or a woman. Are you kidding? Funny?

1706
01:29:33,159 --> 01:29:37,359
Speaker 3: Because yeah, Larry David actually Larry David, Larry Crane actually

1707
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,520
had a background in like performance and touring, and like

1708
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:42,600
I said, we don't know that.

1709
01:29:43,359 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah he did. OK about Larry Hunter. I was like,

1710
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,760
we don't know that he was a professional act Larry Hunter.

1711
01:29:49,119 --> 01:29:50,680
We know nothing, but I tried.

1712
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 3: But we know a bit about Larry Crane mm hmmm,

1713
01:29:54,079 --> 01:29:56,399
his background, so which is interesting.

1714
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad we know that. But yeah, it's weird

1715
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,159
that we don't know anything about Larry Hunter. It's kind

1716
01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:01,680
of strange.

1717
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 3: He was in quite a few movies.

1718
01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:06,239
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why where we don't at least know

1719
01:30:06,399 --> 01:30:09,720
some more info about them. Yeah, there's not very strange. Nothing,

1720
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:13,079
nothing right. It's almost like nobody was interested in him

1721
01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:15,560
enough to try to find out before most of those

1722
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:16,880
people died. It's interesting.

1723
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, like most of the people involved in these I know, people.

1724
01:30:20,399 --> 01:30:22,279
Speaker 4: Who've been researching John Aldoman for a long time.

1725
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:27,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's again, that's that's California. There's slim Pickens in

1726
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:27,720
New York.

1727
01:30:28,119 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 4: That's true because New York is more about the women,

1728
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:30,239
I think.

1729
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, so slim Pickings.

1730
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah wait, so were some of the big names that

1731
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,039
worked with Larry Hunter.

1732
01:30:38,199 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 4: That Doris Weshman Chuck Smith.

1733
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:45,039
Speaker 3: Can still ask about Ken have fun with that.

1734
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,239
Speaker 4: Uh, that's the thing. Most of them are dead and

1735
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:53,720
nobody needs. Nobody needed to ask Chuck about him, like

1736
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:57,880
nobody cares trying to think, Uh, yeah, they're all dead.

1737
01:30:58,319 --> 01:30:59,720
It's just kind of the way it is. And he's

1738
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,760
long dead. He's you know, he has to be dead.

1739
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,079
Uh No, Okay, Alex, I'll make you feel better now,

1740
01:31:05,159 --> 01:31:12,520
Mary le May, I will die on the Mary le May. Hi. Yeah, okay,

1741
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,640
So now we're back on track, Mary Lama, we're on

1742
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,520
the same page about of course, what do you.

1743
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,399
Speaker 6: What do you mean?

1744
01:31:22,399 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1745
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,359
Speaker 4: I just need to remind you that we there are

1746
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,159
several like deep cut people that we still like, desperately

1747
01:31:28,279 --> 01:31:31,319
love that we both desperate. It's Mary love May.

1748
01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 6: You're kidding me.

1749
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 4: I love you know, but I don't think. I think

1750
01:31:35,079 --> 01:31:36,880
Gentry is still kind of confused as so why we

1751
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,079
love why we love her so much?

1752
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 6: So lost the weekend?

1753
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 3: I don't know why, you guys, She's just like some

1754
01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:47,079
She's just one of those campy older ladies that pops

1755
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:49,199
up every now and then in some of these movies.

1756
01:31:49,319 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 4: That's number one reason why want to see Detention Girls.

1757
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 6: She's a butcher wardeness, right, right.

1758
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 3: We did hypothesize that she might have been married to Larry.

1759
01:32:01,119 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 4: I wonder I do wonder that, yes, because they appeared

1760
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,800
in a lot of stuff together.

1761
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want that story. I want that story.

1762
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 3: That would be interesting. Yeah, well you mentioned Kent Kent Bateman.

1763
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,199
Uh is this too much of a headless right?

1764
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1765
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,039
Speaker 3: What the hell is up with the headless eyes?

1766
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 4: It's terrible.

1767
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 3: Well, just how many people are in it that were

1768
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:26,520
from sexploitation, and it's.

1769
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 6: Almost everyone involved in is exploitation. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind

1770
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,039
of like everyone who made Erotic Circus was then like,

1771
01:32:33,159 --> 01:32:36,239
let's make something slightly more horror oriented and and cut

1772
01:32:36,279 --> 01:32:40,600
out the weird fantasy orgy sequence, right, and then Selta

1773
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,640
to Jr. Again, it's like a progression pretty much from

1774
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,479
Erotic Circus, same music.

1775
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: Henry Henry Peshard was involved with that.

1776
01:32:49,159 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean that's the

1777
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,439
other market, and those are the two markets that you

1778
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,239
could make a profit on a little bunch of stuff,

1779
01:32:59,279 --> 01:33:02,199
sex and horror. So that's why I like Chuck Vincent,

1780
01:33:02,319 --> 01:33:06,399
Roberta Finlay, Maria Lease, like a lot of filmmakers went

1781
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,760
into horror after porn or concurrently because they knew that

1782
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,800
it was like then they could do cheaply and make

1783
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,279
money on they're not doing like melodramas and soap operas. Yeah,

1784
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,439
isn't Linda voice in that? Briefly? I know Linda Southern

1785
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,600
is I Believe and Helpless Eyes. I don't know what

1786
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,760
I've gone through, but I don't need to watch it.

1787
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,159
I don't know if I have to watch it again

1788
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,880
on Blu ray right of course, So yeah, I have

1789
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:39,560
fund price Now. It's from like a bit, it's from

1790
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,640
like a soul print of that, and it just has screaming.

1791
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,800
It's the guy screaming my eye over and over and

1792
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,239
over and over time. So it's really and the music

1793
01:33:50,279 --> 01:33:55,640
from Carnival Blood is used over and over if exercise,

1794
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,680
Oh yeah, Credible Blood is a lot of fun and

1795
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,760
everyone is horrible and that movie. So it's just like

1796
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:01,560
it's high camp.

1797
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, like this moment like this movie. No, yeah,

1798
01:34:07,119 --> 01:34:10,760
like socker to me, Maybe it's not camp. Yeah, I

1799
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,399
think it's very campy. What do you mean?

1800
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,520
Speaker 4: What do I mean? It's only camp has been like life?

1801
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,279
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I think I read this a million

1802
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:18,359
times in the best way.

1803
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 4: Camp shouldn't be boring. And this does not need to

1804
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,439
be eighty This does not need to be like eighty

1805
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:24,479
seven minutes.

1806
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,520
Speaker 6: It does not need to be this long, doesn't the

1807
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:28,279
case minutes?

1808
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to disagree again. Yeah, so I don't think

1809
01:34:30,399 --> 01:34:31,920
it felt like that. I didn't think it felt that

1810
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:33,119
long because it is, Oh my.

1811
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 4: God, it's a lot of long.

1812
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 6: Light by fire feels longer.

1813
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 4: My fire is like.

1814
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 3: Soccer to baby, kind of moves between quite a few little.

1815
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 4: Two houses in a tennis court. Those are the locations.

1816
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:48,880
What are you talking about?

1817
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:49,239
Speaker 6: It?

1818
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 4: Basically, it's basically minutes at least money scare love, you

1819
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,439
go out to a bar. Yeah, they go to a bar,

1820
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,800
and you know, yeah, yeah, that's true. That is a

1821
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,920
good location. Actually, I was kind of like, wh where's this?

1822
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:03,279
Yeah that's true. Yeah I did like that. I perked up.

1823
01:35:03,399 --> 01:35:05,640
It's like, oh my god, we're outside finally and not

1824
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:06,720
in the backyard somewhere.

1825
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 6: Great, we got something on him? Okay, okay, guys right, I.

1826
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:13,039
Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, I was, but I was like, oh my god,

1827
01:35:13,079 --> 01:35:15,000
how long are we going to lust after this boring

1828
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:17,720
ass niece? And then how many times we're going to

1829
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,880
argue with this French girl? And like yeah, I was like,

1830
01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:25,439
anyway much love the wife, love the wife so much.

1831
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:29,439
I did enjoy the raw who also I didn't circus.

1832
01:35:30,039 --> 01:35:34,199
I did enjoy the wife is incredible, she's great. I

1833
01:35:34,279 --> 01:35:35,119
did enjoy the wife.

1834
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 6: Yes, if I can if Yeah, I just want to

1835
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,199
live as the wife. I just want to be I

1836
01:35:41,319 --> 01:35:41,960
did enjoy her.

1837
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 3: I love watched part of that. What part of her

1838
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:46,399
life you want to live?

1839
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:55,039
Speaker 4: But I'll she's not Grace in Holland Satan and yos

1840
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:56,000
that's the life I want.

1841
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,279
Speaker 6: Oh god no, but like with like a gay Okay,

1842
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,439
I realized that I can't be Grayson Hall. I need aspire,

1843
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:04,600
I need to be realistic.

1844
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 4: You can, you can. You can be Grayson Hall if

1845
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,439
you put your mind to it. I believe in you.

1846
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 6: I feel like I could least have a man I

1847
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:14,319
could like just boss around like that.

1848
01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you like Larry Hunter because he's a

1849
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,159
little piss ant that you can boss around.

1850
01:36:21,079 --> 01:36:23,399
Speaker 3: He does play like an emasculated man.

1851
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 4: Yes and everything, Yes, love toy.

1852
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: Yes, love to absolutely yeah, oh yes again. It might

1853
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,920
have been one of those things where, like you know,

1854
01:36:36,039 --> 01:36:40,119
we've seen this in sexploitations sometimes where real life does

1855
01:36:40,199 --> 01:36:41,600
inject itself a bit.

1856
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,319
Speaker 4: I don't think he was actually looking for sexploitation roles

1857
01:36:45,319 --> 01:36:49,600
where he could play like you, because when you shout

1858
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,720
to audition for this ship, you don't read the script

1859
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,079
and say, oh, this is not a subpart. Okay, I'm out,

1860
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,520
I'll see you guys later. He wasn't picky and choosy

1861
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,319
with his ship gentry. Yeah, that's not that's not how

1862
01:37:01,399 --> 01:37:03,800
this works in this industry. You got phone calls and

1863
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,680
someone saying, we're shooting this weekend, are available, give me

1864
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:07,479
the script. Yeah.

1865
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 3: Maybe they knew he had a preference for it, so

1866
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,640
they're like, okay, we don't we're not casting, we just

1867
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,319
will Larry is the guy that is possible to hire

1868
01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:15,760
him for this.

1869
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 4: Role, right, that is possible?

1870
01:37:18,039 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, right, who knows? Yeahs I'll say I

1871
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,319
was like then who stumbled across and was like, you know,

1872
01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:29,279
I know this guy who's just such a cock right

1873
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:33,720
exactly that it can't mote. So like, you know what,

1874
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,199
maybe we should higher head to catch coucks, right.

1875
01:37:36,319 --> 01:37:38,199
Speaker 4: And likes to bug his eyes out and look at

1876
01:37:38,199 --> 01:37:39,439
a guy from color me blood red.

1877
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,359
Speaker 6: Right, Oh, he's a little bit better than the guy

1878
01:37:42,399 --> 01:37:43,439
from Coloring Me Blood Red.

1879
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's a.

1880
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:49,199
Speaker 6: He's a little rotten.

1881
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 4: I love I love him. I love the guy from Color.

1882
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, you haven't seen Casey Scorpio seventy yet, but no, no.

1883
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:08,239
Speaker 4: No, oh god, don't see that. Well, I'm honestly not

1884
01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:10,920
that excited anyway. It's Jennifer Wells I could care less,

1885
01:38:11,239 --> 01:38:13,960
but it's it's I want to see it. It's Ron Sullivan.

1886
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,359
That's a bigger deal to me because I love Ron.

1887
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's so tan, he's so tan.

1888
01:38:20,399 --> 01:38:23,119
Speaker 6: And then he does brown face again, to the point

1889
01:38:23,159 --> 01:38:26,279
that I thought he was doing blackface. I'm like, you

1890
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,399
mean he could very well you already did, and now

1891
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:34,119
you're he could be it's car stopping Larry.

1892
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,199
Speaker 4: That's so good.

1893
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's actually actually now I really want Casey to

1894
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,920
see Coming Baby Light My Fire, just to watch pon show.

1895
01:38:43,079 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 3: You mean I've seen it.

1896
01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:48,239
Speaker 4: I'm just honestly yeah, okay, real talk. Now that people

1897
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:51,279
keep throwing my letterbox ratings in my face. I actually

1898
01:38:51,399 --> 01:38:54,439
spent like an hour going through removing ratings for like

1899
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,479
fifty percent of my something weird movies, so I have

1900
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,039
I'm going to finish by the end of the day,

1901
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,520
so that you So if it looks like I haven't

1902
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,640
watched it yet, you'll never know if I watched it

1903
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,079
yet until I've actually readed it and reviewed it, and

1904
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:09,119
then you can trust my view on it. So I'm reviewing,

1905
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:11,640
I'm I'm removing everything.

1906
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 3: Wait, so you're kind of going to the standard Alex

1907
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,479
DeSanto mode, which is just I watched it.

1908
01:39:19,239 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 4: No, I'm not even going to say that I saw it.

1909
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,319
That's none of your business. You're not going to know

1910
01:39:23,359 --> 01:39:25,920
what I've seen and what I haven't seen. Gosh, because

1911
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:27,359
I will. I'm not going to have the ratings throw

1912
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,760
on my thrown in my face. No more my old

1913
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,840
ass ratings. And unless I've reviewed it, unless we covered

1914
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,960
it in the podcast, this is none of those ratings.

1915
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,159
There are other people have done that slipcase. Alex did

1916
01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:42,319
the same thing, and I was like, you know what.

1917
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've thrown since knowing it once about my sister's business,

1918
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,920
because I still don't get why even you back then

1919
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,239
would have rated it that much.

1920
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:56,199
Speaker 4: But that's my sister's business. That's a history. It says

1921
01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:58,840
a historical interest rating and it is justically interesting. Is

1922
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,399
one of the back Pussy has a historical interest rating

1923
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,560
for me because it's awful and it's an example of

1924
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,119
how bad the genre can be. My Sister's Business is

1925
01:40:06,199 --> 01:40:08,359
the only exploitation movie with a leading lady with a

1926
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:13,039
mustache it has. That is why I gave it a

1927
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:15,920
historical interest. But you know what, I'll play by your game.

1928
01:40:16,119 --> 01:40:18,800
I will rewatch it, and then I will review it

1929
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:24,800
and I will re rate it and then listen. I

1930
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,640
love seeing that crazy lady and I because I watch

1931
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,039
it and I'm just like what was going through Bobby

1932
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:32,680
Davis's head where He's like, I'm going to make a

1933
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,520
sex movie starring this woman. I feel like somebody financing

1934
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,960
it was like make this movie with my with my

1935
01:40:38,279 --> 01:40:39,600
like my side piece.

1936
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,079
Speaker 6: That because it feels too real in a sense. It

1937
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,159
feels like he's out there somewhere. She's out there somewhere

1938
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,520
like taking the lowest class Johns in some back alley

1939
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,159
right now, or at the very yeah the movie, like

1940
01:40:55,279 --> 01:40:57,560
she was at the very very end of the alley,

1941
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,800
at the very end of the alley, taking the.

1942
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 4: Last person at five am. I also get so.

1943
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,039
Speaker 6: Depressed for that reason. I'm like, you feel real.

1944
01:41:10,079 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 4: Some movies are so bad that they are like legitimately

1945
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,840
fascinating this I don't. This is not one of them

1946
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,319
for me. It's just what's a fascinating to me? Didn't

1947
01:41:18,319 --> 01:41:21,560
fascinate me. I prefer light my Fire, which by the way,

1948
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,000
was a film and a half rating before I deleted it,

1949
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,279
so we'll see what I really think about it when

1950
01:41:26,319 --> 01:41:28,479
I rewatch it. But I remember loving it.

1951
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,039
Speaker 6: Really, I don't think it's like off, Like I've seen

1952
01:41:33,079 --> 01:41:35,720
a million worse things, but I'm just like it's it's

1953
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:36,119
the same thing.

1954
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 4: Had they because it was nice and sleezy. This just

1955
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,600
felt like it was It didn't really work. This does

1956
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,720
not work. Did not work like Miniskirt Love's works, where

1957
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,920
it's tackled a lot of similar stuff, And I feel

1958
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,640
like Miniskirt Love had a certain finesse to this leaziness

1959
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,760
that made it easier for me to swallow than this.

1960
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 6: Oh no, I just like those balls to the walls

1961
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,720
weird crazy. Yeah, I can say like I just like

1962
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,039
like this, like this, like like like this, like this

1963
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:03,840
is like the best of like those kind of really

1964
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,279
crazy books I read. Come to life nothing so you.

1965
01:42:07,319 --> 01:42:08,560
Speaker 4: Come with additional context.

1966
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,560
Speaker 6: Yes, you like this to me, she's a really like

1967
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,119
Psychotically Unhinged published by Stanley Malcoln or one of the

1968
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:20,800
Sturman Brothers paperbacks that you're just bewildered the whole time

1969
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,640
and you are haunted by it.

1970
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,359
Speaker 4: But not for the right reasons.

1971
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,039
Speaker 3: Well, what I like about Soccer to me is the

1972
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,520
suburban setting. I mean, you get that again. Yeah, Mini

1973
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,039
scirit Love is also suburban, but this one really feels

1974
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,520
like I I think in my review I compared it

1975
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:42,920
to Happiness. You guys have seen Happiness, right, todd Solis It's.

1976
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,039
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, I saw that and I was like, it's

1977
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:47,840
not a ton It's not the Todd's Todd salons.

1978
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 6: No.

1979
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,079
Speaker 4: I could see the comparison, but I don't agree. Okay,

1980
01:42:52,399 --> 01:42:54,640
just because I love that movie, I would never watch

1981
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,880
it again, but I own it. It's not Walking the

1982
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:01,000
Doll House, but it's like I much prefer Yeah, I

1983
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:05,279
don't know. I feel like it's just too Miniskirt Love

1984
01:43:05,399 --> 01:43:08,079
feels more suburban to me than this. This feels like

1985
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,920
that does feels like it was shot in like a

1986
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:16,119
real neighborhood and it really kind of like it's really tight,

1987
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:18,880
Like it feels more Yeah, it feels more like this

1988
01:43:19,079 --> 01:43:21,159
is a community, and this is what it's like behind

1989
01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:23,359
the closed doors. This just feel the whole thing looks

1990
01:43:23,399 --> 01:43:25,800
shot behind closed doors, where it's just like, well I

1991
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,920
don't get the idea of the scope of this environment.

1992
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you can tell the houses are more spread apart,

1993
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,720
they're not even really beside each other. Like these are

1994
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,880
large lawns. These are big lawns that these people are

1995
01:43:37,119 --> 01:43:38,960
right and stuff like there's a I can see a

1996
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,760
fountain feature and the bat like an immaculate backyard that

1997
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,640
these people have somehow, somehow.

1998
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 4: But like we talk, we dealt with movies that are

1999
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,319
shot in like like like suburban places like Francis Friday

2000
01:43:49,359 --> 01:43:53,239
We've talked about even like even Sarno stuff where he

2001
01:43:53,279 --> 01:43:55,680
sets in the suburbs like moonlighting wives and things like that,

2002
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,760
Like you get the sense of the hes. He establishes

2003
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,399
the setting so well. And this is like it just

2004
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:06,000
seems like lou shooting it in like his house, which

2005
01:44:06,079 --> 01:44:08,319
is fine for like a certain kind of exploitation movie.

2006
01:44:08,359 --> 01:44:10,199
But in this movie we're trying to develop like a

2007
01:44:10,279 --> 01:44:13,239
script and characters and plot beats and ship. It just

2008
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,960
does not It doesn't fire on those cylinders for me.

2009
01:44:17,319 --> 01:44:19,119
Which is which is a bummer because I went into

2010
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:20,640
this thinking it was gonna like blow my mind, and

2011
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:25,680
I was like, oh, yeah, I know, I know. It

2012
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,640
didn't work for me. Yeah, don't don't call me for

2013
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:32,439
the commentary called these two. Yeah up, that is not

2014
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,920
that isn't that. I will bow out. I will produce that.

2015
01:44:35,079 --> 01:44:37,079
I will produce those supplements, just like I produced the

2016
01:44:37,159 --> 01:44:39,720
last package. I will put everyone else together and you

2017
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:40,319
guys do it.

2018
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:43,399
Speaker 6: Also, what I don't know what you would put with

2019
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:47,119
soccer to me anyway, because light my Fire hasn't shown up.

2020
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:49,039
But where's that print? I don't know where that print is.

2021
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question. But the print for Sokka

2022
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,159
Tuman might be gone too for all we know.

2023
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 6: Well, actually the neck exists for that with who certain people?

2024
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,880
And you have more s exploitation films, Okay, miniskirt love

2025
01:45:04,039 --> 01:45:07,600
is with Novak vinegar syndrome has socker to me?

2026
01:45:08,199 --> 01:45:09,199
Speaker 4: Where do they get that negative?

2027
01:45:10,039 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 6: It was with career bed and.

2028
01:45:14,039 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 4: One or two others. Oh interesting, okay, it.

2029
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,279
Speaker 6: Was, I told you about it. There's if there's a

2030
01:45:18,359 --> 01:45:20,960
small batch of odd exploitation eggs that popped up like

2031
01:45:21,039 --> 01:45:23,600
ten years ago, Red Roses of Passion was another one

2032
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,600
as well, would be where the Black Widow came from

2033
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:29,119
that batch?

2034
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,520
Speaker 4: O interesting, it sounds.

2035
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 6: Was there there's some others that I would say, there's

2036
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:39,279
some others.

2037
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,039
Speaker 4: I don't know. It sounds like we got the good

2038
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:43,159
ones already mentioned.

2039
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,279
Speaker 6: Actually no, I just don't want I just don't want to.

2040
01:45:45,359 --> 01:45:46,960
I just want to air every single one they had.

2041
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:48,880
But like, no, there's some other ones that you guys

2042
01:45:49,039 --> 01:45:52,640
like some other ones. Okay, don't don't get dumb stuff

2043
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:57,119
on my neck just yet. I got more thing, all right.

2044
01:45:57,359 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 3: The dream would be to put all the babies together

2045
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:04,439
if possible, but no, just lose the like no, I

2046
01:46:05,279 --> 01:46:06,920
cool it baby vans and furs.

2047
01:46:07,399 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 4: And mini skirt because there's a camp Scope, so all

2048
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:10,720
the camp Scope should go together.

2049
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. There should not be the center should

2050
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,880
go with light my fire. But where's my fire? That's

2051
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,840
something problem because I don't know wh else you would

2052
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,359
put with soccer.

2053
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,279
Speaker 4: To me, I'm I think you shouldn't go buy title here.

2054
01:46:21,319 --> 01:46:25,119
He should go buy the the distributor of production company.

2055
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:27,439
Camp Scope goes together because those are all part of

2056
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,680
a collection, and Novak bought those all together. But Okay,

2057
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:32,880
it's not that's.

2058
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:37,319
Speaker 3: Not okay, camp Baby.

2059
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,399
Speaker 6: Okay, but Campa hardly did. He didn't even really direct.

2060
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 4: Directed by him when Lou Waldeck directed that.

2061
01:46:44,079 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 3: But you know they're still going to put his name

2062
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:46,960
on that. I mean, if they put this out, they

2063
01:46:47,079 --> 01:46:47,520
put his name.

2064
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, because Lou Kampa household name. People will

2065
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,600
absolutely buy lu Campu collections.

2066
01:46:54,359 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 6: What soccer could have used? Really, because I don't know what.

2067
01:46:58,319 --> 01:47:01,920
I'm really fascinated by her because she's so effusive in it.

2068
01:47:02,119 --> 01:47:04,359
In from of maybe like My Fire is Tina Buckley

2069
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:05,880
who plays June Wilson.

2070
01:47:06,359 --> 01:47:08,239
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, who is she?

2071
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2072
01:47:10,119 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 9: I want to know so much about her because I'm like,

2073
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:16,399
you're really you look like you look like you should

2074
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:18,560
not be in this can't have been her real name,

2075
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:21,800
and you look like you should not remotely be in

2076
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:22,319
this movie.

2077
01:47:23,159 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah at all?

2078
01:47:24,079 --> 01:47:27,520
Speaker 4: It could well girlfriend after Jane and Vans. We don't know,

2079
01:47:28,199 --> 01:47:30,359
maybe because I'm like, why are you being in this? Girl?

2080
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:35,199
Speaker 6: You're You're like, you're not bad, You're not bad, You're gorgeous.

2081
01:47:35,359 --> 01:47:38,479
You're absolutely like, uh you put oh, she puts her

2082
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,920
all into that thing. That's why I watch this website

2083
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,119
do because, oh my god, Tina is.

2084
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 3: When she's giving that like that fiery speech at the beginning,

2085
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,760
you know, railing against drugs and.

2086
01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 6: Oh god, even just her fake orgast, like just even

2087
01:47:53,079 --> 01:47:57,000
everything about her, everything about her in this movie.

2088
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 4: It was a powerful speech you gave tonight, June.

2089
01:48:00,199 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: If they only knew, if they only could see what

2090
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,600
I've seen in the high schools and colleges across the

2091
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,359
Country's room the ways is joining the morals of the kids.

2092
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,359
Speaker 4: Sex is running rapid, and it's all because of marijuana.

2093
01:48:10,399 --> 01:48:15,720
We misstop them, miss stop them feeling better. Sorry about

2094
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,239
that clip I gave him, It was the only thing

2095
01:48:18,279 --> 01:48:18,600
I could do.

2096
01:48:20,119 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 5: I forgive you, John, But the next time I get

2097
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,279
out of hand, please don't hit me so hard.

2098
01:48:26,399 --> 01:48:30,079
Speaker 6: Also, I'm really wondering how they managed to kidnap her

2099
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,439
as well, because that's never explained. She has like a

2100
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,800
blackout because of an orgasm that her boyfriend gives her

2101
01:48:39,359 --> 01:48:43,600
and is like bedridden. And then and then somehow the

2102
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,279
criminals who want to kidnap her because she's gonna because

2103
01:48:48,319 --> 01:48:52,279
she's going against pot and their dealers, and they had

2104
01:48:52,359 --> 01:48:55,520
a weird convoluted reason of like if pot is legitimized,

2105
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,399
will both be able to make his many profits?

2106
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, but they somehow manage to get.

2107
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:05,520
Speaker 6: Her to fly out to them, as if she's gone

2108
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,479
to a well and anti orgasm wellness retreat or something.

2109
01:49:10,039 --> 01:49:12,079
Speaker 4: Right, I'm trying to like, is it possible that light

2110
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:14,640
my Fire is with Agva? They have flying out pay later?

2111
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,399
I wonder if that's one of the prints that they

2112
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:17,000
got from.

2113
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 6: Maybe because this doesn't happen and hopefully on the other two.

2114
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,279
Speaker 4: Options, Yeah, it's either the Prince is gone, which can

2115
01:49:23,359 --> 01:49:26,119
be possible, or it's act for distribets. Those are kind

2116
01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:29,319
of our two only options. Yeah, I don't I don't

2117
01:49:29,359 --> 01:49:32,600
see Razo getting it. It's doesn't go for sixty stuff.

2118
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,600
It would be like his seventies expectation is more of

2119
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:35,000
his thing.

2120
01:49:35,359 --> 01:49:37,399
Speaker 3: I mean, if AGVA had it and they knew that

2121
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:39,439
they had it, and they have done it with Fly,

2122
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,600
and they should have done it with Fly now because

2123
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,359
pH dial the connection there?

2124
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,279
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, except again that's not like, Yeah, I'm

2125
01:49:48,319 --> 01:49:50,680
still trying to think of the connection between those two movies.

2126
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,119
I guess it's because there's every much connection I think

2127
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,000
where to even do call on Baby again. Would would

2128
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,239
they try and get sucking to me from VS?

2129
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 6: Or like, yeah, well grab something else we have in

2130
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:02,680
the We're.

2131
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 3: Talking from our perspective of like yeah, we just want

2132
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,640
you know, we'll buy it. But like, the only way

2133
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,199
to Fly now is even being released is because it's

2134
01:50:11,239 --> 01:50:14,079
on a Sandra Peabuddy movie. Like, let's be really right,

2135
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:15,640
right exactly?

2136
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: Well, yeah it's black and white. It's black and white

2137
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,079
b feature to a color feature that has horror connections,

2138
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:22,760
right exactly.

2139
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean that's what they would have to

2140
01:50:25,079 --> 01:50:27,399
do with something like baby, like my fire is put

2141
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:32,119
that with who knows something bigger not a clue?

2142
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't put on her rause we know though,

2143
01:50:35,359 --> 01:50:38,960
I'd rather be with rent a girl obviously, or a

2144
01:50:39,159 --> 01:50:41,960
cargo of love. That would make so much sense because

2145
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:43,960
it's Anton Olden. Yeah, that made perfect sense.

2146
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,039
Speaker 6: That's a no brainer to me. That's just too black

2147
01:50:46,079 --> 01:50:47,359
and white. This is too black and white.

2148
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

2149
01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 6: Also back to come a Baby's plot, also, she keeps

2150
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,560
on she used to fake because of her orgasms. What

2151
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,239
if that started happening when they kidnapped her and they're like, fuck,

2152
01:50:56,279 --> 01:50:56,880
we're fucked.

2153
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 4: She keeps on blacking out. She gives on having orgasms.

2154
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,560
She did the first that's the exploitation device. Why was

2155
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:07,279
that not a thing?

2156
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:07,640
Speaker 3: Right?

2157
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:08,119
Speaker 1: Right?

2158
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 4: Exactly? Like that would have been great. That sounds like

2159
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:16,000
a Larry Crane kind of thing. A little it's a

2160
01:51:16,039 --> 01:51:17,680
little funny. It's a little funny.

2161
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, Candy, I love you so much.

2162
01:51:21,079 --> 01:51:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they called me. What does she say? They called me?

2163
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

2164
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, she gives her roofie. She gives her roofie, Candy.

2165
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,199
That's why they call me Candy. I just love this stuff.

2166
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 3: And that's how she introduces herself on the like the

2167
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,199
ride home from the airport.

2168
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you reminded me why I did like? That reminded

2169
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,840
me of things. That's why I rated it so high.

2170
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 3: But I'm really quite incited for you to rewatch this now.

2171
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 6: Down one of the horniest characters in sixties exploitation by far.

2172
01:51:54,119 --> 01:52:00,000
That woman is rabbit. That does not stop. I enjoyed

2173
01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:02,920
for a second. And again her only of their appearance

2174
01:52:03,359 --> 01:52:07,920
is in one of the Wishman's which one really amazing transplant.

2175
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,560
Speaker 4: I think, oh interesting, either transplant or.

2176
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we only get her in this once again,

2177
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,720
we get Tina Buckley and this.

2178
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,359
Speaker 3: Lovely she's like a prostitute. I'll have to rewatch that, yeah,

2179
01:52:22,399 --> 01:52:23,119
because I'm like, I.

2180
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:28,399
Speaker 4: Because amazing picks prostitute and yeah, he picks up a

2181
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,039
prostitute I remember, and goes to like a little basement apartment.

2182
01:52:31,359 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, which I hardly remember because she's not going

2183
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,479
feral in that as she should.

2184
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:41,199
Speaker 4: Well yeah, this does anyone go feral in the Doors movie? Now,

2185
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,079
that's one just doesn't happen. Yeah, because there's no there's

2186
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:45,640
no direction.

2187
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Olivia Brad we get it.

2188
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:53,399
Speaker 4: And bad Girls go to Hell where she's clearly like

2189
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:57,840
very Yeah, that's probably the most intense performance. Yeah, you're

2190
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:02,239
right even and love to is very like, that's very

2191
01:53:02,319 --> 01:53:05,119
capidated the Canary. That's a very reserved and that's why

2192
01:53:05,159 --> 01:53:07,720
that performance works. But yeah, you don't really have there's

2193
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,079
no The other performance that's completely over the top is

2194
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:14,319
Pamela Man and Keyholes Are for Peeping, which is terrible,

2195
01:53:15,079 --> 01:53:18,239
and so is Kristen Steen in that is also very

2196
01:53:18,279 --> 01:53:21,119
over the top, and that's bad too. It's like the

2197
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,960
only time they're they're over the top and lot in

2198
01:53:25,079 --> 01:53:27,319
loud and a worst movie is in like a really

2199
01:53:27,399 --> 01:53:29,600
bad comedy with Sammy Patrollo.

2200
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:34,560
Speaker 3: I I assume that's because it's that's Sammy's influence, you know, bringing.

2201
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,319
Speaker 4: Sammy only shot two days and then wasn't around for

2202
01:53:37,399 --> 01:53:42,199
the rest of it. I don't know, Okay, yeah, yeah,

2203
01:53:42,199 --> 01:53:43,760
I don't know. I like to think about that movie.

2204
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,960
I like to pretend that doesn't terrible, terrible. I'm sure

2205
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:48,600
Bowen loves it.

2206
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 3: What is the opinion, Well, we kind of. I need

2207
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,560
to watch the uh, the amazing transplant version that you

2208
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:55,720
gave us, Casey that.

2209
01:53:56,399 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 4: Yes, with the missing footage.

2210
01:53:58,399 --> 01:54:00,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, the one that makes so much more sense now

2211
01:54:00,399 --> 01:54:02,319
on your side, case It makes more sense when you

2212
01:54:02,359 --> 01:54:02,600
know the.

2213
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 3: Right, especially because I just watched Linda Southern and Woven

2214
01:54:11,199 --> 01:54:12,840
seventy two, that piece of crap.

2215
01:54:14,279 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 4: Did you sit through that?

2216
01:54:15,239 --> 01:54:16,159
Speaker 6: Why did you sit through that?

2217
01:54:16,279 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 10: You know why?

2218
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 3: I sat through it for Larry Hunter even I wouldn't do.

2219
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 6: That again for Larry Hunter.

2220
01:54:22,279 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 4: You're out of your advertising watching every Larry Hunter movie.

2221
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:27,600
What is wrong with you?

2222
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 7: I am Oh my god, Oh my god, Jesus, I

2223
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:39,479
am just diminishing returns. I'm up then, Jesus Christ. And

2224
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,880
let me guess he plays the same character and everything.

2225
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:49,319
Speaker 3: Oh, he's a detective or no, one question at a time.

2226
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:53,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Alex, No, is he in the original

2227
01:54:53,239 --> 01:54:55,279
Cowards footage or is he in the.

2228
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 4: Should have just been chill now? The hippie ship was

2229
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,039
later and I forget that was Kamal I think Kamal

2230
01:55:04,119 --> 01:55:06,600
Harulu did that, and then Simon Knuckturn did the nineteen

2231
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,399
seventy so, but did you see Love Is where It's At?

2232
01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 5: Yet?

2233
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 3: Have I seen Love Is where It's at?

2234
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 4: Larry Hunter is in that, and so Zilanas and your

2235
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:22,119
Ally and Joe and Jackie Richards and Joe Allen. It's

2236
01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:26,079
like a murder mystery, sex quotations murder mystery and also

2237
01:55:26,199 --> 01:55:30,199
what's his face? Uh? That character actor? Oh no, the

2238
01:55:30,279 --> 01:55:34,359
guy from the guy from Magnolia. I forget what ship,

2239
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,560
I forget what his name is, big characters.

2240
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,399
Speaker 6: You can't really forget that began credit sequence because it's

2241
01:55:39,399 --> 01:55:43,039
all going up Joel's body as a credit as like, yeah,

2242
01:55:43,079 --> 01:55:45,000
you definitely haven't seen it if you can't remember that.

2243
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,359
Speaker 4: Yes, it is very similar to like a like a

2244
01:55:48,439 --> 01:55:50,399
flush or like a Findley.

2245
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 3: Credit sequence, because Sydney Knight did the Simon Yeah, yeah,

2246
01:55:58,079 --> 01:56:01,199
Simon did the loving and he did Love is where

2247
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:01,479
it's at.

2248
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I need to watch No he did not

2249
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,720
Love and seven Cowards is Nocturn Love and seventy two.

2250
01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:10,800
I think it's kind of is credited to Nottur might

2251
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,600
have been involved with producing that footage, but I don't

2252
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,560
think he shot it. I thought it was I thought

2253
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,039
it was Kamal Harulu shot they add on footage. I

2254
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:22,399
don't remember. It's probably not worth thinking about more. Such

2255
01:56:22,439 --> 01:56:24,600
a bad movie. I remember I bought it. I was

2256
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:26,279
so excited. Something weird put it out and it was

2257
01:56:26,359 --> 01:56:27,039
just like Michigan.

2258
01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:30,359
Speaker 6: Yeah again, that's the Michigan has to another.

2259
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason. Another reason I got it too.

2260
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,359
I was like, oh, Michigan, okay, and then I lost it.

2261
01:56:34,399 --> 01:56:39,680
I was like, why why the worst ones? It's not

2262
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,520
as interesting as like Ghetto Freaks, which is similar situation

2263
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:45,479
where that was shot as one movie in like nineteen

2264
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,760
seventy and then a few years later had added footage.

2265
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:51,479
I quite enjoy that, but yes, it's not fun. Ghetto

2266
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,239
Freaks is fine. Is not?

2267
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: It's not.

2268
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 3: I swear it's like eighty percent just people talking.

2269
01:56:58,399 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 6: There are only the Michigans would have decided to even

2270
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,239
add sex I don't think anyone else would have even cared.

2271
01:57:04,439 --> 01:57:07,119
They would have just sheltered. Only the Michigans go, let's

2272
01:57:07,159 --> 01:57:09,119
just add some new dy, right.

2273
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,399
Speaker 4: Or maybe was it ken Of Schwartz. Maybe was it

2274
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:15,079
kend Of Schwartz who shot that footage who later ended

2275
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:18,000
up producing It's Fire.

2276
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 6: Kamal online, But we don't I don't know if that's real.

2277
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 4: Of course, Yeah, if it was a kend Of Schwartz name,

2278
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,039
people have been mixing him up with Kamal Harulu. They

2279
01:57:26,079 --> 01:57:30,960
are not the same who produced Piena on Fire and

2280
01:57:31,079 --> 01:57:33,039
Dracula Exodica for Sean Costello.

2281
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:36,279
Speaker 6: Do we know that Kamal did sexual practices in Sweden,

2282
01:57:36,319 --> 01:57:38,119
which was another Michigan around the same time.

2283
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:40,479
Speaker 4: I know of that.

2284
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 6: But the only potential tissue, that's the only potential tissue

2285
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,600
I can see there with that Carl Hanson.

2286
01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:50,079
Speaker 4: That's the name he used, Yes, Carl Hansen, Kamal.

2287
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 6: Who did that.

2288
01:57:53,319 --> 01:57:54,439
Speaker 4: But probably.

2289
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 3: The other reason I watched love In is for the

2290
01:57:58,079 --> 01:58:00,920
very brief appearance of Sandra Peabody.

2291
01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 4: Oh, she's probably in the Cowards footage. No, maybe not,

2292
01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:07,439
that's too early. She probably wasn't that.

2293
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:14,079
Speaker 3: She's at the Canadian like Draft House at the beginning

2294
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:15,880
when they're having sucks.

2295
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 4: No, oh, then if Cowards is nineteen seventy, that's too early.

2296
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,000
She wasn't in the city yet.

2297
01:58:23,279 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're thinking about this too much. Sorry, I know.

2298
01:58:29,279 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah for this. Oh my so, let me guess that's

2299
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:35,000
on Cold Picks. Probably it is, yes, don't you don't

2300
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:35,920
you all don't need to watch that.

2301
01:58:36,479 --> 01:58:38,239
Speaker 6: Okay, but watch Soccer to me baby.

2302
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:43,439
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, that is on Cult Picks, much like my

2303
01:58:43,479 --> 01:58:45,079
friend is a baby.

2304
01:58:45,159 --> 01:58:46,239
Speaker 4: Let my phone in there as well.

2305
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:47,159
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

2306
01:58:48,039 --> 01:58:51,479
Speaker 4: Okay, by my fire, I remember liking. I'm excited to

2307
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,199
revisit it. I didn't have time to watch it before

2308
01:58:53,239 --> 01:58:55,920
the episode, and I was owned by Soccer to my

2309
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,319
baby or so why I'm not going to put any

2310
01:58:58,319 --> 01:58:58,640
more time.

2311
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,039
Speaker 3: Not that you didn't have time. He just didn't want

2312
01:59:01,119 --> 01:59:01,319
to know.

2313
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,399
Speaker 4: I didn't have time. I I legit didn't And then

2314
01:59:04,439 --> 01:59:06,079
talking to my baby was a drag, and so I

2315
01:59:06,199 --> 01:59:07,319
was just like, I don't want to watch all the

2316
01:59:07,359 --> 01:59:08,359
Luke campip piece of shit.

2317
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,079
Speaker 6: Don Miano is very unconvinceding has a mob boss.

2318
01:59:11,119 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 3: I will say that you think so.

2319
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:16,159
Speaker 6: Seriously, I don't know.

2320
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,159
Speaker 4: I just don't.

2321
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:25,239
Speaker 6: You a mob boss. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, sweetie,

2322
01:59:25,359 --> 01:59:32,159
you're trying to sexually brainwash this girl. Sure, Jerry, Jerry, okay.

2323
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,159
Speaker 3: And Casey, you get to see Joe Ellen is in

2324
01:59:35,239 --> 01:59:36,880
the movie as well, so yeah, I think.

2325
01:59:37,079 --> 01:59:42,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's oh yeah, sidekick. I love Joellen. You're finally

2326
01:59:42,199 --> 01:59:43,000
on the Joellen try.

2327
01:59:43,039 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm finally on it. Yes, I just needed to see

2328
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,039
some more because the stuff I had seen she didn't

2329
01:59:48,039 --> 01:59:50,840
really do anything or even really say anything.

2330
01:59:51,199 --> 01:59:54,359
Speaker 4: And how blood She's the only model who actually models.

2331
01:59:54,119 --> 01:59:56,159
Speaker 3: I know, but she doesn't do anything else.

2332
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:58,199
Speaker 6: She's in like one, she's in the orgy.

2333
02:00:00,079 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 4: There's so much I will say that.

2334
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 6: That's the only good reason why the only thing I

2335
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:09,840
remember about that, that's the only good thing about her

2336
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:14,319
about that movie, besides Jerry Miller's dance sequence, which one

2337
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:16,880
candy Baby Baby.

2338
02:00:17,319 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

2339
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 4: Shout out to Charles Devlin again, thank you.

2340
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 3: For are we still are we sure it's candy Baby?

2341
02:00:25,079 --> 02:00:25,359
Speaker 4: Casey?

2342
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was so embarrassing.

2343
02:00:29,319 --> 02:00:32,479
Speaker 4: Alex, you're going to cut this ship out, but I'm

2344
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,600
going to talk about this. He went through it and

2345
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,439
he was like, oh no, this is some other seventies

2346
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,520
movies called Candy Baby. This totally doesn't match. And then

2347
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:44,239
I start wing he yeah, He's like, yeah, thanks for sending,

2348
02:00:44,279 --> 02:00:46,520
but this isn't candy this isn't the BH style Candy Baby.

2349
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:50,640
So I'm looking through it and I'm like, there's Jerry Miller,

2350
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,359
there is this actress, there's this actress. And then I

2351
02:00:53,439 --> 02:00:55,760
find a shot at the end that matches the poster.

2352
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,760
So I'm just like, guys on the poster.

2353
02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like embarrassing moment, I will he was.

2354
02:01:03,319 --> 02:01:05,199
Speaker 4: He was in a hurry to get out of the

2355
02:01:05,279 --> 02:01:07,000
house and do some kids stuff. I think.

2356
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,479
Speaker 3: Just also, I also admittedly like in my head, I

2357
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:15,399
always saw that movie as black and white. Just that's

2358
02:01:15,439 --> 02:01:17,520
fair the poster, and so as soon as I see

2359
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:19,840
this in color, I'm like, there's no way I'm not

2360
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:20,560
even gonna.

2361
02:01:20,319 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 6: See that whole movie threw me off.

2362
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.

2363
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:24,199
Speaker 6: The whole movie threw me off so badly.

2364
02:01:24,279 --> 02:01:26,119
Speaker 4: Except but you're going by that, then you're gonna be

2365
02:01:26,119 --> 02:01:28,520
really surprised by a lot of districts in London Kurtman Ship,

2366
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,680
because all of those promotions are in black and white

2367
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,640
because they're cheap at ship, and the movies are in color. Yeah,

2368
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:40,279
I just the un the UNA press book is black

2369
02:01:40,319 --> 02:01:44,520
and white. That movie is in color. Yeah, it's just cheap, cheaper.

2370
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:46,960
So that was a good lesson, Gentry. Do not go

2371
02:01:47,079 --> 02:01:51,800
by the advertising materials. Yeah, they're cheap as cheap ass

2372
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,039
motherfuckers in this business.

2373
02:01:53,159 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 3: Think about yeah, it's.

2374
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 6: Just one color. If you think about it, think about

2375
02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:59,159
all there one sheets, it's just one color.

2376
02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 4: A Master Beater was black and white.

2377
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:05,119
Speaker 6: It's well, we know, yeah, yeah it's black white and

2378
02:02:05,479 --> 02:02:07,439
oh wait oh the actual movie that we don't know.

2379
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 4: That's the thing. We don't know. All right. None of

2380
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,600
the would seem to indicate that it is.

2381
02:02:13,319 --> 02:02:15,159
Speaker 6: It would have advertised in the ads. That would have

2382
02:02:15,199 --> 02:02:16,039
been a selling point.

2383
02:02:16,399 --> 02:02:18,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Candy Baby didn't say it was in color anywhere.

2384
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:20,680
Oh wait a minute, it did. That was something else. Gentry.

2385
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,399
I was like, it says it's in color. What does

2386
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,439
that's right? The poster for Candy Baby says it's in color.

2387
02:02:26,479 --> 02:02:28,079
I believe. So I was like, Gentry, it says it's

2388
02:02:28,119 --> 02:02:28,520
in color.

2389
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,079
Speaker 3: I needed to look at that again.

2390
02:02:31,279 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 4: I don't.

2391
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, Master beads definitely in black and white.

2392
02:02:34,119 --> 02:02:38,159
Speaker 4: Definitely black and white. Okay, Yeah, it's gotta be interesting. Yeah,

2393
02:02:38,279 --> 02:02:40,079
you one would think they would advertise more if it's

2394
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:42,079
in color, but like Una doesn't say it's in color

2395
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:44,920
on that press book. I don't think that's weird. Yeah,

2396
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,760
I don't. I don't know that's the logic is there?

2397
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:49,479
If not promoting it's in color, that's very strange. But

2398
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,199
then it also makes them look cheap if they're going

2399
02:02:52,239 --> 02:02:53,479
to have a black and white press book and you

2400
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,359
say it's in color and makes them look like cheap assholes,

2401
02:02:56,359 --> 02:02:58,359
and like, well, then show us these naked women to

2402
02:02:58,479 --> 02:03:02,520
promote the movie in color, like you know, and also

2403
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:06,279
who say stuff is in color when it's like what

2404
02:03:06,479 --> 02:03:10,239
astro color? Like putting the tints over a Filipino monster movie?

2405
02:03:10,399 --> 02:03:11,159
That's color?

2406
02:03:11,399 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 6: Now that's the Wars Defender all.

2407
02:03:14,279 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like so you can. I'm trying to think. I'm

2408
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:18,439
trying to think, decide.

2409
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, besides Plat and pussy Cat Is there are another

2410
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:25,199
sixties exploitation film that did the filter thing and called

2411
02:03:25,239 --> 02:03:26,520
it in color. I'm trying to think.

2412
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:28,840
Speaker 4: I thought that there was a Crussy one, but no,

2413
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:32,159
I misremember and Russy didn't do that. No, was the

2414
02:03:32,199 --> 02:03:34,199
import that somebody did.

2415
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 6: The only thing Kressy did I remember is in one

2416
02:03:37,039 --> 02:03:40,199
of the Mondo films he said, this is red infrared

2417
02:03:40,399 --> 02:03:41,119
film and.

2418
02:03:41,199 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking.

2419
02:03:42,399 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 6: And white otherwise, but not like advertised. I think Plat

2420
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:49,239
and pussy Cat was advertised, right.

2421
02:03:50,439 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 4: It really wasn't that common because that is the lowest low. Yeah,

2422
02:03:55,319 --> 02:03:56,920
you're not going to do because you're not going to

2423
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,560
do that. If you get a black on white movie,

2424
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,880
you're not going to attend to. You're just gonna be

2425
02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:02,079
like in dirty black and white like.

2426
02:04:02,159 --> 02:04:05,239
Speaker 6: Real life or whatever, or in sex o vision, like

2427
02:04:05,439 --> 02:04:07,600
just something doesn't necessarily hurt it.

2428
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:09,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right right.

2429
02:04:10,479 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 3: It's a good thing that Tina was such a good schema.

2430
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:16,439
If it wasn't for her conniving, we would have been

2431
02:04:16,479 --> 02:04:22,000
caught a long time ago. A little bitch. She's going

2432
02:04:22,079 --> 02:04:23,119
to do all right in life.

2433
02:04:24,279 --> 02:04:25,439
Speaker 4: She's a boor and hustler.

2434
02:04:26,359 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 3: Boy.

2435
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,119
Speaker 2: When this thing blows up and it's gonna make Hiroshima

2436
02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:33,880
look like Coney Island fireworks, the hell of it, I'm

2437
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:34,840
not gonna worry about it.

2438
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:35,079
Speaker 5: Now.

2439
02:04:36,399 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 3: We are going to be patiently waiting your new new review, Casey.

2440
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm going to get to it.

2441
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,840
I'm sim a foreigner land, so just got nine as

2442
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:52,479
well to say the nine hours, so it's only nine

2443
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:57,640
hours early an hour piece. That's the thing. Also, I

2444
02:04:57,840 --> 02:04:59,880
just have to say, like watching something like this after

2445
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,279
I've been seeing like movies, sexploitation movies in color and

2446
02:05:03,399 --> 02:05:06,680
scope like professionally mounted, and then going back to this

2447
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:08,960
where like I have multiple scenes that are out of

2448
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:11,000
focus and I can't see the naked lady. I'm just

2449
02:05:11,119 --> 02:05:14,319
like right, So Japan has always been ahead of us

2450
02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:17,239
in terms of like technology, Like you're.

2451
02:05:17,119 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 3: Watching seventies and eighties though watching.

2452
02:05:21,279 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 6: In the sixties, so no even the sixties, even watching

2453
02:05:26,079 --> 02:05:29,520
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm so happy violating.

2454
02:05:29,199 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 4: Because I don't think that you know what I've said

2455
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:35,840
it before here, American sexploitation distributors, a lot of them

2456
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:39,800
just hated their audiences. I don't think the Japanese distributors

2457
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,880
hated their audiences. They were on to give them some

2458
02:05:42,039 --> 02:05:44,560
kind of quality. There, weren't the big hucksters that American

2459
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:48,119
sex six quoters were, like Krussy with the bite, he

2460
02:05:48,159 --> 02:05:51,159
didn't trust his audiences weren't smart. We're smart enough to

2461
02:05:51,199 --> 02:05:53,520
watch a movie in Japanese with subtitles.

2462
02:05:53,279 --> 02:05:56,359
Speaker 3: Right, we don't get with John Alderman.

2463
02:05:56,439 --> 02:06:00,239
Speaker 4: Yeah right right, it's like, no, my audience is, but

2464
02:06:00,439 --> 02:06:03,760
they're not. They're not gonna understand this. But yeah, no,

2465
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:07,079
I mean I'm just I'm spoiled. But come on, come on, baby,

2466
02:06:07,119 --> 02:06:09,000
light my fire. I do remember liking quite a bit.

2467
02:06:09,399 --> 02:06:12,159
I'm very I'm concerned. I don't remember more about it,

2468
02:06:12,439 --> 02:06:15,960
but going by my previous rating, I liked it. I

2469
02:06:16,119 --> 02:06:18,359
just I just need to watch it. It kind of

2470
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:20,479
just it sounds like it would go well with like

2471
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:22,520
a Cargo of Love or Flying Now Pay Later.

2472
02:06:23,279 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's kind of like a

2473
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:27,000
lesser fly Out pay Later.

2474
02:06:27,439 --> 02:06:29,479
Speaker 4: Interesting because they're both Senex so that would have made

2475
02:06:32,079 --> 02:06:32,920
less flying out.

2476
02:06:33,239 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 6: No, No, I mean I mean like flying up, fly

2477
02:06:35,279 --> 02:06:37,680
fly Now, like they go different places and things like that.

2478
02:06:38,039 --> 02:06:41,199
I mean maybe they're mostly that's what I mean. Like

2479
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,239
fly Now people are put into crates and like all

2480
02:06:44,319 --> 02:06:46,680
this kind of stuff. There's a weird year. It's interesting

2481
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:47,319
camera work.

2482
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember it being very ambitious.

2483
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 6: Like yeah, it's more ambitious, that's it. It's more I

2484
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:54,560
am ambition.

2485
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:56,239
Speaker 4: See that's the thing. I kind of wish this has

2486
02:06:56,279 --> 02:06:59,840
just been more ambitious, like I feel like Miniskirt Love,

2487
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:02,760
for whatever reason, feels more ambitious to me than this.

2488
02:07:03,239 --> 02:07:05,720
And I don't know if it's shot better. I don't.

2489
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:11,279
Speaker 3: I think it's just Janet bans just elevates everything well.

2490
02:07:11,319 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 4: Also, Bella Donna's good in it. Like it's just like

2491
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:18,439
I'm much more compelled by that twisted story and the

2492
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,880
universe is just built better, which I know sound crazy

2493
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:26,000
to say about sexploitation movies, but like yeah, like yeah,

2494
02:07:26,039 --> 02:07:28,479
it's like yeah, world building and sexploitation, like give me

2495
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,439
a break. But like there, it's it's it's it's more

2496
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,079
easy to get lost in that movie and get absorbed

2497
02:07:35,079 --> 02:07:36,960
into that movie than it is this time.

2498
02:07:37,079 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 3: For me, there's like that little you know, the relationship

2499
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:44,840
between you know, Janet Banzai's aunt and the young camera boys.

2500
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:50,479
It's done pretty well there. It's yeah, I love that.

2501
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,279
Speaker 4: I also think, and I've said this before, that if

2502
02:07:53,319 --> 02:07:55,840
it's if it's a sexpectation movie that is way too

2503
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,119
focused on a male central character, I am not going

2504
02:07:59,199 --> 02:08:01,359
to be invested because I don't give a shit about

2505
02:08:01,399 --> 02:08:03,319
a man trying to get his rocks off. I could

2506
02:08:03,399 --> 02:08:05,720
give two shits. I want to focus on a woman.

2507
02:08:06,119 --> 02:08:10,640
Compare this to something Apples and Oranges, all American girl

2508
02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,359
that is all about that girl. Like, you know what

2509
02:08:14,439 --> 02:08:16,560
would have been great if this was movie was all

2510
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:20,399
about Tina at the babysitter I or the or the wife.

2511
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,680
I would have been way more invested because I would

2512
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:26,039
have been like, Oh, she has this nasty, cheating husband

2513
02:08:26,079 --> 02:08:28,319
on the side who's lusting after the teens, but she

2514
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,560
also wants to have sex with the teens, and so

2515
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:32,720
I'm more interested in what she has to do with it,

2516
02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:36,000
you know. I just and also, knowing what we know

2517
02:08:36,079 --> 02:08:39,159
about Lou being a total nasty piece of shit, there's

2518
02:08:39,199 --> 02:08:40,119
too much of him in this.

2519
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,159
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, you think that Larry Hunter is like

2520
02:08:43,239 --> 02:08:46,119
the proxy sort of for absolutely.

2521
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, even though Lou was I think slimmer than him,

2522
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:52,720
so he like cast a fatter version of herself. It

2523
02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:56,439
was just like it's just like, okay, yeah, I don't know.

2524
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:58,680
It's just like I know, I don't know. It sounds

2525
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:00,520
like I'm being rough or whatever, but like, I don't

2526
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:02,720
begrudge people liking movies that I don't like. It's just

2527
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:04,920
you know, just what it is. But like, I don't know,

2528
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,840
I wanted to like this so much more. I think

2529
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:08,840
that's why I'm just like bummed about it, because like

2530
02:09:09,159 --> 02:09:11,479
I wanted to like it, because I liked all the

2531
02:09:11,479 --> 02:09:13,399
stuff lou Campa did before this, and I like to

2532
02:09:13,479 --> 02:09:16,079
light my fire based on my rating. And I was

2533
02:09:16,159 --> 02:09:18,520
just like, oh, this just doesn't It didn't hit for me.

2534
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:22,079
I don't know. Maybe if I revisit it in a while.

2535
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:23,079
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2536
02:09:23,439 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 4: It just didn't. It didn't hit for me.

2537
02:09:25,159 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 3: All right, readers, did let us know what you think?

2538
02:09:28,479 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm in the minority because everyone else seems to love it.

2539
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 3: The only person you know I'm wondering now.

2540
02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 4: Charles agrees with me John everything.

2541
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:40,159
Speaker 3: He's not a good gauge.

2542
02:09:41,199 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 4: I hate everything. He just rates everything on a more

2543
02:09:43,199 --> 02:09:44,039
logical scale.

2544
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 6: No, it's not as good as Maskirt Love, but as

2545
02:09:47,159 --> 02:09:49,720
like I said, a really unhinged pulp trash.

2546
02:09:50,479 --> 02:09:53,279
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, if you have a really good background, Alex,

2547
02:09:53,359 --> 02:09:55,840
that is true. You're coming out of a different perspective

2548
02:09:56,119 --> 02:09:58,640
in different context that I don't have. That's true.

2549
02:09:59,159 --> 02:10:01,439
Speaker 6: That's what they is, like one of those come to life,

2550
02:10:01,479 --> 02:10:03,000
and I'm just here for the insanity.

2551
02:10:03,479 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 4: M hmm.

2552
02:10:04,039 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 3: All right, because you don't tell us, now what would

2553
02:10:08,039 --> 02:10:10,359
you what would you give? Sock it to me? Baby?

2554
02:10:10,479 --> 02:10:12,760
And what would you give come on baby, light my fire?

2555
02:10:13,239 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 4: Fuck?

2556
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 3: No?

2557
02:10:14,399 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 6: Oh god, So I don't give ratings. I hate this.

2558
02:10:20,039 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 4: You wait a minute, you do give radiance because you

2559
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:24,840
rated there's Don Walters movies pretty harshly.

2560
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 6: But that's because I feel the absolute need for people

2561
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,000
to completely understand that those.

2562
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 3: Are like, yeah, generally you that's warning.

2563
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 6: Warning, like every else five. But then I'm like, you

2564
02:10:38,079 --> 02:10:42,479
have to be aware that this is like Bride for Brenda.

2565
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:44,720
I'm scared people are going to go in that with

2566
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:46,279
an expectation. I'm scared for that.

2567
02:10:46,439 --> 02:10:49,039
Speaker 4: What I want people to see Bride for Brenda so

2568
02:10:49,079 --> 02:10:52,079
they can see Buster from Seeds and like another substantial role.

2569
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:54,800
There's only other substantial role that's accessible.

2570
02:10:55,319 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 6: I just feel so bad for him. I found him

2571
02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:59,359
in another one of those distript PTS movies, a hot cut.

2572
02:10:59,439 --> 02:11:01,720
Speaker 4: I foun him in a I sent you yeah, and

2573
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:02,680
I was like, this is.

2574
02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:07,079
Speaker 6: Another one, another one. Oh god, it feels so bad

2575
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:07,399
for him.

2576
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 3: All right, answer the question.

2577
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 4: I write this, Yeah, he's delayed delayed reaction.

2578
02:11:14,039 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 6: I'm giving both of them a six for different reasons.

2579
02:11:17,039 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 4: A six. Okay, So like IMDb six, which is what

2580
02:11:20,039 --> 02:11:22,880
three stars on little box? Is that how that transfers?

2581
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

2582
02:11:23,319 --> 02:11:26,079
Speaker 6: Then three and a half for different reasons. In that

2583
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,520
Soccer to Me Baby, like I said, I love its craziness. Yeah,

2584
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:34,000
come on, light my Fire is a lot more well made,

2585
02:11:34,319 --> 02:11:35,359
but the story isn't.

2586
02:11:35,159 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 4: As interesting interesting.

2587
02:11:38,239 --> 02:11:40,319
Speaker 6: So they're that for Yeah, they're that for different reasons.

2588
02:11:40,319 --> 02:11:44,199
They're not the same film. They're ghastly in its content.

2589
02:11:44,439 --> 02:11:46,279
Speaker 4: But you gave it three and a half with a heart.

2590
02:11:46,399 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 3: I gave Socket to Me three and a half in

2591
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,439
a heart, and come on, baby, three and a heart. Okay,

2592
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,000
thanks so pretty much.

2593
02:11:54,199 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 4: They're very similar, just a half extra for Soccer to

2594
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,039
Me Baby interesting, which is the Larry Hunter probably got

2595
02:12:01,039 --> 02:12:02,279
that happy, probably.

2596
02:12:02,039 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 6: For yeah, come on, baby, managers to actually feel genuinely filthy,

2597
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,319
like I feel like Socca to Me doesn't achieve that.

2598
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 3: No, Soka to Me is filthy more like because of

2599
02:12:14,319 --> 02:12:17,960
the mindset of Larry Hunter's character. But come on, baby,

2600
02:12:18,039 --> 02:12:21,119
actually like shows a lot more, wouldn't you agree?

2601
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:22,039
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2602
02:12:22,439 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, Oh god, even with some of the dialogue,

2603
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:29,960
she won't be a version after a pond show.

2604
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:34,920
Speaker 3: How many sixties expectation movies have like uh yeah, like

2605
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:39,319
Golden Showers, I name them. There's I make a list.

2606
02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:43,319
Speaker 6: I genuinely don't think because I would have mentally like

2607
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,720
been like, oh, I'm gonna mentally single with that out

2608
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:48,680
because that's crazy. I don't can't. I can't think of

2609
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:51,399
any other film that is in the bizarre ones.

2610
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:55,399
Speaker 4: No, no, they don't even go there. I thought there

2611
02:12:55,520 --> 02:13:00,520
was another is not ultimate Voyeur, no Fluctuation not. I

2612
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:01,119
don't think it does.

2613
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:02,800
Speaker 3: If there was going to be one, yeah, maybe it

2614
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:04,520
would be Ultimate Voyeur, but I don't I.

2615
02:13:04,479 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 4: Would think it would be Fluctuations.

2616
02:13:06,239 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 6: But I hands down, even if it was a bad film,

2617
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:11,039
I would have remembered a film having that scene.

2618
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2619
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 4: See, that's the kind of thing that like, that's so shocking.

2620
02:13:17,239 --> 02:13:20,319
It wouldn't really come along until hardcore when you could

2621
02:13:20,359 --> 02:13:20,960
actually do it.

2622
02:13:21,279 --> 02:13:22,279
Speaker 6: Yeah that's yeah.

2623
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean S and M is very similar in

2624
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:29,079
that way. Different kinks didn't really start being included in

2625
02:13:29,199 --> 02:13:31,800
films in a more vivid way until it was hardcore.

2626
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:35,079
Speaker 6: Yeah about say, these were very standard. The kicks in

2627
02:13:35,479 --> 02:13:38,560
sexploitation was very standard, Yeah, because it.

2628
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,640
Speaker 4: Was like being tight, being tied up and whipped as one,

2629
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:45,640
and like wearing leathers another, and like s and M Dombsell.

2630
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:47,399
That's why Venus have Verse so interesting because there's all

2631
02:13:47,399 --> 02:13:50,359
sorts of other interesting kinks in there that are still

2632
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:54,880
not as they don't cross that line into something that well,

2633
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:56,720
I guess I kind of did for the time, something

2634
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:00,239
that would be censored or cut out by local you know,

2635
02:14:01,159 --> 02:14:04,680
local censor boards and stuff. But yeah, you're like, yeah,

2636
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:08,079
water sports, that's a bridge too far. I think it

2637
02:14:08,199 --> 02:14:10,079
was until those because a lot of and also it's

2638
02:14:10,119 --> 02:14:14,800
a like pink, yeah, kink and film, I think because

2639
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:16,680
it was considered to be so niche. So if you're

2640
02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:18,560
gonna do something that you want to be seen by

2641
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:21,479
the most people possible, you're not conclude something that is

2642
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:24,079
so niche that it's going to turn off what you

2643
02:14:24,119 --> 02:14:26,560
consider a larger part of your audience. That's why like

2644
02:14:27,119 --> 02:14:29,720
video was very helpful for Kicks, because then you could

2645
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:34,159
have stuff that's focused on like all lesbians fisting, pissing,

2646
02:14:34,479 --> 02:14:37,000
that kind of thing like that that's in hardcore was

2647
02:14:37,119 --> 02:14:40,199
much well, and then it's so weird because yeah, time

2648
02:14:40,439 --> 02:14:43,239
going back to the Japanese Roman Corno, they didn't care

2649
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:46,000
about that. They're just like we're gonna have people getting

2650
02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:50,159
having enemas and shooting water all over the place and yeah,

2651
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:52,319
it doesn't matter how that was.

2652
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:56,079
Speaker 6: I think that's just completely indefensible for the genre that

2653
02:14:56,199 --> 02:14:58,359
goes way too far. I'm surprised it's in that print.

2654
02:14:59,079 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 4: It was like shot.

2655
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:01,199
Speaker 6: I'm surprise it's not snipped out.

2656
02:15:01,479 --> 02:15:03,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually that's a very good point. If this is

2657
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:05,640
the only print we have, I'm shocked that it still

2658
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:09,840
has it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just not Yeah, it's

2659
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:11,720
too it's very niche. A lot of kinks are just

2660
02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:16,399
too niche for that. I mean, oh no, there isn't.

2661
02:15:16,439 --> 02:15:18,479
There isn't water sports in like a Findly movie. I

2662
02:15:18,479 --> 02:15:21,760
don't know why. I thought of some pleasures or general

2663
02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:24,079
but no, he didn't even go that far either. There's

2664
02:15:24,199 --> 02:15:25,760
this baby spitting up milk and.

2665
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I think is probably more gross than Yeah,

2666
02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:31,960
that is like grotesque.

2667
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:38,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does all anything else in that, including you know,

2668
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,520
squash sports, but it's not food.

2669
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 6: He'll go there with food.

2670
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:47,119
Speaker 4: Probably doesn't even do yeah, it doesn't do uh, yeah,

2671
02:15:47,199 --> 02:15:50,560
doesn't do pissing or fisting or enemas or any of

2672
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:54,079
that stuff. Yeah, but but you would know this, but

2673
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:56,640
that's the kind of thing that you could get literature

2674
02:15:57,199 --> 02:15:59,920
about at that time in the sixties, in the late sixties,

2675
02:16:00,039 --> 02:16:02,520
could you was it included in like dirty books or

2676
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:05,079
was that still something that took into the seventies to

2677
02:16:05,159 --> 02:16:06,920
start including.

2678
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:13,159
Speaker 6: The most that was a bit maybe by sixty nine

2679
02:16:13,279 --> 02:16:15,760
like the Cusp, maybe by again by sixty nine like this.

2680
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:19,760
But the farthest thing that they were the number one

2681
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:23,880
thing that they were doing that exploitation films weren't, because

2682
02:16:24,399 --> 02:16:27,199
Mascar eleven and Talking to Me Baby are the only

2683
02:16:27,439 --> 02:16:29,720
films I can think of. But the books go farther

2684
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:35,239
into including adolescents than exploitation films up the sixties.

2685
02:16:35,639 --> 02:16:38,040
Speaker 4: Right, And those are worse than you would see in film,

2686
02:16:38,079 --> 02:16:41,120
because in film they wouldn't be taking this kind of risks. Yeah,

2687
02:16:41,159 --> 02:16:42,920
the book you could write about it with some of

2688
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:44,559
the publishers took risks.

2689
02:16:44,920 --> 02:16:48,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, it did take some bad I read some

2690
02:16:48,399 --> 02:16:52,040
amfl stuff. Yeah, some gasly risks. But that's yeah, that's

2691
02:16:52,079 --> 02:16:54,799
the one thing that besides these two campus they went

2692
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:56,000
in this era.

2693
02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:00,280
Speaker 4: Not nothing else. Wait, actually, water sports. The close I

2694
02:17:00,319 --> 02:17:03,120
could think of is that really long piss in cursiper

2695
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:06,399
flesh and that opening, the opening credits, the piss that

2696
02:17:06,520 --> 02:17:12,479
goes on forever, Okay, a year in all that's very different,

2697
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:15,360
but still piss. If someone in a piss is like,

2698
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:17,959
oh yeah, I could just imagine all this piss washing

2699
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:23,280
all over me. Michael, Michael fin Over, I know that

2700
02:17:23,399 --> 02:17:25,840
wasn't I know? That was more Probably Michael sends to humor,

2701
02:17:25,959 --> 02:17:27,399
is kind of like, how long is this guy going

2702
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:29,719
to piss reading these credits? Yeah, but now I.

2703
02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:32,040
Speaker 6: Really love to think that one jodle Man kept on

2704
02:17:32,159 --> 02:17:34,680
coming back to see that movie, just one guy in

2705
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:35,280
the corner.

2706
02:17:35,479 --> 02:17:39,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and just say a single man. And then just

2707
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:40,799
for the credit, he brought taper.

2708
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:43,040
Speaker 6: He brought taper coorder with them that sameause.

2709
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,639
Speaker 3: I probably love The Lusty Hours then, because there is

2710
02:17:45,719 --> 02:17:48,040
that pick up since you know the gay pickup scene

2711
02:17:48,079 --> 02:17:51,680
in The Lusty Hours, which is a gross bathroom.

2712
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, Alex, that's maybe something we should do Pride Months.

2713
02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:59,760
We should try to edit together like a mixtape of

2714
02:17:59,879 --> 02:18:04,360
like all the queer sequences in otherwise straight heterosexual movie

2715
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:07,559
like the one I just posted this morning, Oh yes,

2716
02:18:07,799 --> 02:18:09,840
which is so random and crazy and I'm like, why.

2717
02:18:09,719 --> 02:18:12,280
Speaker 3: Why I posted that? Because you don't see that much

2718
02:18:12,440 --> 02:18:18,760
like very bold gay stuff in sixty sexploitation.

2719
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:22,959
Speaker 4: Right, and not made by the exactly because they were gay.

2720
02:18:23,239 --> 02:18:26,159
Sam Kata, as far as I know, was not so

2721
02:18:26,799 --> 02:18:27,479
very interesting.

2722
02:18:28,239 --> 02:18:29,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very shocking.

2723
02:18:29,399 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2724
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:31,200
Speaker 6: The only one I can think of that wasn't a

2725
02:18:31,239 --> 02:18:32,360
Maro is mind Blowers.

2726
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I watch that. I'm that, I've seen it, Miss

2727
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:37,319
Christen Steen.

2728
02:18:37,639 --> 02:18:40,399
Speaker 6: That has a man on man scene in that. Oh yes,

2729
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:43,680
I remember that goes slightly farther than the Marows, but

2730
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:47,200
not as graphic as the Alex Man sequence.

2731
02:18:47,799 --> 02:18:50,159
Speaker 4: And then I guess also that massage sequence and Venus

2732
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:52,479
and first which Marzana was like, well that's the gay scene,

2733
02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:55,399
Like is it? It's just sheb Wilde showing that he

2734
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:56,760
was in the sewer in real life.

2735
02:18:57,239 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 6: Actually, even Playpen Girls had more from what like, right,

2736
02:19:01,719 --> 02:19:06,120
remember Playpen Girls had Actually Master Beater has some pretty

2737
02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:08,959
it's literally a still in this with some.

2738
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:15,079
Speaker 4: Corporate queen. Corporate queen. Actually, yes, Neil Martinsen, that chat

2739
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:17,879
we were just on. Oh he showed me was in

2740
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:19,959
that press book of corporate queen. I need to respond to.

2741
02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:23,319
Speaker 6: Okay, actually there's even more. There's uh the lost film

2742
02:19:23,399 --> 02:19:26,879
Secret files of Detective X. One of the case studies.

2743
02:19:27,079 --> 02:19:31,000
One of the case studies is about two gay men. Uh,

2744
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:31,639
there's a couple.

2745
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:33,799
Speaker 4: Oh, I need to revisit the press book.

2746
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:37,559
Speaker 6: Yeah. Interesting, Okay, Yeah, secret fils of Detective X and

2747
02:19:37,719 --> 02:19:38,840
Cochin spring it back.

2748
02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Because because we've failed you, We failed you

2749
02:19:45,319 --> 02:19:47,799
so miserably this month them Let's.

2750
02:19:47,639 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 4: Do a palate cleanser after this. Let's let's can I

2751
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,440
get some mouth wash after the lou camp.

2752
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:54,360
Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want, Casey.

2753
02:20:04,559 --> 02:23:39,639
Speaker 6: M. D.

2754
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:39,760
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classics like That'll be on the Stars, and the super

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weird stuff you never even heard of, like Eat and Run.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, you don want to say hey it's nice to me, Yes,

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Mark every movie and Erica every movie. Yes, Erica every movie.

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Speaker 11: Every movie.

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Speaker 12: So we're still talking about Night two Share and all

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the bonus stuff too. We're talking things we love, things

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we hate, and favorite scenes, inside jokes, and I know

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we're not a final questions.

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Speaker 4: But are we still talking about Ryan's research?

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Speaker 10: I know I am, so check out our website, New

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World Pictures podcast dot com, or subscribe to the New

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World Pictures Podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts, follow

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us on the socials, and we'll see you next time

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at the New World Pictures Podcast. Proud to be a

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part of someone's favorite productions podcast network.