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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Round of applause for DA Nathan Hoffman in the DA's office.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have to relitigate that entire thing, but he

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<v Speaker 1>just did.

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<v Speaker 2>He laid out the entire case again, right, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a reason why this went to trial,

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<v Speaker 1>not once and not twy I mean, this was litigated

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<v Speaker 1>to jury several juries and they all came up with

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<v Speaker 1>the same conclusion. And you heard him say this was

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<v Speaker 1>not a case about sexual abuse. That the two brothers

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<v Speaker 1>were asked repeatedly at the various trials, was this because

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual abuse? And they said no, that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>this was about. They claimed it was just self defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought they were going to die that night, despite

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<v Speaker 1>as he laid out, all the premeditation that went into

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<v Speaker 1>what was clearly not a self defense and the heat

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<v Speaker 1>of the moment killing. So that's the thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they have So gas Scone came in and said, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to put in this motion in motion essentially to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the prison terms. Hawkman said He'll let essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>hearings stand, but that they have withdrawn the recommendation to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the prison terms until these two brothers come out

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<v Speaker 1>and own up to what they did that night and own.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to all the lies they refused to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Done up to this point. I thought that was an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting way to put it. He said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>offer there, we are offering a path, that was his term.

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<v Speaker 3>We are offering a path if Eric and Lyle Menendez

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<v Speaker 3>unequivocally take responsibility for their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the old Republican pathway to citizenship for illegal immigration. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't want to say no, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>if you jump over these hurdles and you do all

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<v Speaker 1>these things and you check these boxes, all consider it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the recensing hearing is scheduled for the twentieth, twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty first.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But that's nothing. I mean, the only thing with

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<v Speaker 1>him right now, Hawkman, is that he's saying that the

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<v Speaker 1>judge could have this hearing, and that the judge could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of decide on his own whether or not the

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<v Speaker 1>brothers should be, you know, looked at in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>reducing their sentence. There's no legal instrument to make that

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<v Speaker 1>happen for the judge to go ahead and do what

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<v Speaker 1>the DA's office now says it will not do. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the DA's office said, we'll come to the game. Gascon

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<v Speaker 1>led DA's office said, we're going to argue that these

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<v Speaker 1>should be reduced because of Netflix Justice and it's popular.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Hawkman's like, yeah, we'll show up. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to make that case. This is our case. We

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<v Speaker 1>stand with what the jury's found. But the judge can

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and he can decide one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>The law says that the judge cannot. That's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He did lay out what I thought was the other

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<v Speaker 3>interesting aspect. He talked about the basically a parole rating,

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<v Speaker 3>that they get a score based on what sort of

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<v Speaker 3>threat they would be to the outside world, what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of rehabilitation efforts they've made while in prison, and said

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<v Speaker 3>that they get they both get the lowest score possible,

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<v Speaker 3>the best score possible. I think it's a way that

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<v Speaker 3>is a better way to look at it, because of

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<v Speaker 3>their time in getting advanced degrees, you know, associates degrees,

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<v Speaker 3>one of them at least as a BA from UC Irvine.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently all the online courses that are available.

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<v Speaker 3>So he did talk about that aspect of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>said they just continued to uphold this lie. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he referred to the sixteen lies that they have continued

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<v Speaker 3>to tell, the four of which four other lies that

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<v Speaker 3>they obviously now have said are admitted were lies to

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<v Speaker 3>begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the major things with sentencing, And you will

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<v Speaker 1>learn this if you immerse yourself in true crime documentaries

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<v Speaker 1>you cover these cases. There's one thing that counts above

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<v Speaker 1>all when it comes to sentencing, and it is owning

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<v Speaker 1>up to what you did. And these two are pleading

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<v Speaker 1>for a re sentencing five hundred years after the fact

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<v Speaker 1>and still aren't owning up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a problem. I mean that that is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>If this trial happened two weeks ago and it was

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<v Speaker 1>over and their sentencing was up. But it's been thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five how many years? Do the math for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Since then?

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<v Speaker 1>And since nineteen ninety whatever? Yeah, that they still have

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<v Speaker 1>not owned up to this. What what do they think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen with any sort of chance at

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<v Speaker 1>resentencing us? What judges want to hear, They want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear you say, I did it, I screwed up. Here's why,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I may not have I may have not

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<v Speaker 1>have said that at the trial, and I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did this and I lied about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>yes it was premeditated and all of the things, and

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't done it.

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<v Speaker 2>He referenced the Sirhan Sirhan case a lot. That's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a weird comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>Unnecessary, totally unnecessary, Like obviously has something in his craw

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<v Speaker 1>about Sirhan Sirhan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I need First of all, the term case by case

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<v Speaker 1>basis exists for a reason. Why would you compare the

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<v Speaker 1>Menendez brother's case to the Sirhan Sirhan case when they

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<v Speaker 1>are apples and oranges, very different cases.

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<v Speaker 2>What just because they're in the media focus is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that because he's talking to a greater He's

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<v Speaker 1>not making this case before a judge. He's making it

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<v Speaker 1>to the public so that we all kind of know

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<v Speaker 1>who sir Han Surhan is so we can be like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy who tried to shoot Bobby Kennedy at

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<v Speaker 1>the Ambassador Hotel in nineteen sixty eight. Yeah, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like and he's eighty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, it's not really topical is it so anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>That is the significant that they're going to go forward

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<v Speaker 3>the court initiated resentencing, and basically that Nathan Hawkmann says,

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to give you an opportunity this path, if

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<v Speaker 3>you unequivocally take responsibility for your actions, then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of basically the line that he has put out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand the family members of Lyle and Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Menendez who are calling on a recall of Hawkman. They

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<v Speaker 1>think he should be removed his district attorney over this.

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<v Speaker 2>What you want to move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>With the fact that the two murdered people molested their

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<v Speaker 1>own boys.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to move forward with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the narrative you want to withstand the test of time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Not that these two young men were money hungry and

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<v Speaker 1>made a really bad decision and killed their parents and

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<v Speaker 1>it's tragic and awful. You want to take it a

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<v Speaker 1>step further for your family legacy and said that the

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<v Speaker 1>parents were the mom and the dad were molesting their

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<v Speaker 1>two boys. That's what you want to withstand.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, that's a weird That is aw weird Hill

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<v Speaker 3>right there? All right, Gary and Shannon will continue. Deborah Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't had a chance to see how you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Gary. There's been earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was taking a little nappy nap and I felt

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<v Speaker 4>that one yesterday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>It woke me up. I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy, Deborah. Deborah recommended to me as Amy King did Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>I finished it yesterday and my first thought upon finishing that,

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah was, this is the last show for Deborah Mark

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<v Speaker 1>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know why you've been walking around a little nervous

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<v Speaker 1>for the past week. Yeah, yes, because you think the

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to think that way though, Shannon, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fine, We're fine, I know. But the earthquake, the

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<v Speaker 2>big one is it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Eminent, all right, Gary and Gene will getting You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty La County.

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Hawkman says this hour he does not support the

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<v Speaker 1>resentencing of the Menendez brothers. Nathan Hawkman said last month

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<v Speaker 1>that he opposed a new trial, but talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they could engage in a re sentencing and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Would take a look at the case.

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<v Speaker 1>He's taking a look at the case today in public

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<v Speaker 1>at a press conference. He really litigated all the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why the menandaz brothers were convicted, why they should not

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance at freedom at least, he says, until

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<v Speaker 1>they accept complete responsibility, noting that the defense in the

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<v Speaker 1>case was self defense at each trial, that they thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were in imminent danger that night, that their parents

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<v Speaker 1>would kill them. Wasn't sexual abuse by the way they

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<v Speaker 1>were asked about it at the trials, they said it

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<v Speaker 1>was not sexual abuse. He also brought up all the

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<v Speaker 1>ways they premeditated in terms of getting the bullets, collecting

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<v Speaker 1>the case, and all the things that we knew about

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<v Speaker 1>if you went through the actual facts of the case

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just watching a dramatized version of what happened

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple senior Ukrainian officials say that a delegation from

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine that we'll meet with our Secretary State in Saudi

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<v Speaker 3>Arabia is going to propose a ceasefire with Russia that

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<v Speaker 3>would cover the Black Sea and some long range missile strikes.

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<v Speaker 3>Those officials for Ukraine also say that the delegation is

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<v Speaker 3>ready to sign an agreement with the United States on

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<v Speaker 3>access to.

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<v Speaker 2>The rare earth minerals.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the deal that President Trump was exciting, excited

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<v Speaker 3>to try to secure. Of course the February twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 3>meeting that turned into a disaster in the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 1>The stock market is a unmitigated disaster at this point

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<v Speaker 1>Dow is down seven hundred and fifty four points. Is

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<v Speaker 1>going to not be a disaster. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>as investors start freaking out. They're concerned about the tariff situation,

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<v Speaker 1>a recession that could follow. So we'll dive into all

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<v Speaker 1>that coming up after the news at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the hour and swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll place some of the some of our suggestions. We

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about motivational Monday or motivating Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll figure out the stupid alliteration down in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>But those inspirational speeches that we see in movies and

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<v Speaker 3>TV shows sometimes that make you want to get up

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<v Speaker 3>and run through a wall for whoever, whatever Denzel Washington

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<v Speaker 3>movie it is. And we actually had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>good ones that were suggested. Some I can't play because

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<v Speaker 3>why well, one suggestion was fine line between a righteous

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<v Speaker 3>rant and inspiration. But Tommy Lesorda on on Kurt Bavaqua.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there was another Bovaqua.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one was was him talking about, uh, was

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<v Speaker 3>it Kingman that hit four home runs against them something?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that sounds vaguely familiar. We could bleep them.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have one version of that that we could play.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff is really good. So there's that. Somebody also suggested

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<v Speaker 3>that there was just one that just came out in

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<v Speaker 3>fact Cono from the Morning Show Rick Patino Saint John's

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<v Speaker 3>men's basketball halftime speech from just two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Larry Bird's not going to walk through that door.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Patino so love that one.

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<v Speaker 3>So if there's any other suggestions, let us know what

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one suggestion. Glad you're Gary, make Shannon laugh. Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Nicholson the movie A Few Good Man. Yes, course, it's

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<v Speaker 2>thank you well.

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<v Speaker 1>Also when they have lunch, when Jack Nicholson has lunch

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom Cruise, that I eat breakfast three hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>from four thousand cubans trained to kill me. Think you're

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<v Speaker 1>say any more white uniform and make me nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that's it's a great way.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Gary Shannon, glad to have you guys back. I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to give a recommendation for the motivational speech the

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and six remake of Rocky Balboa and he's

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<v Speaker 5>talking to his son and giving him a motivational speech

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<v Speaker 5>about how the world hits hard and doesn't matter how

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<v Speaker 5>hard you get hit. Got it, you can take the

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<v Speaker 5>hits and keep going forward. One of the best motivational

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<v Speaker 5>speeches I heard in that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That scene.

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<v Speaker 5>I listened to it all the time when I work out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, by the way, his son Rocky Balboa son, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>played by Milo Milo.

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<v Speaker 2>Amelia whatever it is. But I can't say his name.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I don't know that. But that's one I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that that was his son. No, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's the character act my little place.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was about.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so when are we going to do our motivational

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<v Speaker 2>Like what time?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, But let's do it later in the

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<v Speaker 3>show today, just because we have to get through some

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<v Speaker 3>of what people have suggested too. So yeah, A twelve

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<v Speaker 3>thirty Yes, okay, because then it's time for lunch, to

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<v Speaker 3>digestebe and then to get back and attack the second

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<v Speaker 3>half of your day and the week, really the week

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<v Speaker 3>and the rest of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ninety Gary and.

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<v Speaker 4>Shannon coming to you. I'm driving the three ninety five

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<v Speaker 4>listening to Gary's stories about mammoth, and I'm passing all

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<v Speaker 4>the same things you did on my way home from

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<v Speaker 4>Bishop this weekend. And I would want to say, this

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<v Speaker 4>might not be the right motivational speech, but when you

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<v Speaker 4>said that, it made me think of John Belushi's speech

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<v Speaker 4>in Animal House. Funny. Not terribly motivating, though, but you

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<v Speaker 4>might consider it for your wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got that a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty funny. There's another one, Brave Heart. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the only part? Okay, it's about a minute

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. Okay, what about Abe Lincoln? Four score?

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot of recordings of Abe Lincoln have to find.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was also the problem with Roosevelt. Not a

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<v Speaker 1>But you could use your trans Atlantic accent that you

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<v Speaker 1>use in an adult theater and now in the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>major motion picture industry, and you could recreate.

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<v Speaker 3>Them Glengarry Glenn Ross. That was one coffee you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to hit Broadway. Coffee is for closers.

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<v Speaker 2>My girlfriends said she's going to go see this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>bil Burr is it bil Burr?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, not mcculchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Colkin. That his name, that's colly whatever. No.

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<v Speaker 3>St Crispin's speech from Henry the Fifth. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>about Shakespeare. I think I'm not sure that gets enough

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<v Speaker 3>people roused.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a excerpt of that just recently in a

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hey, Gary and Shannon, this is Jillian.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say one of my favorite motivational

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<v Speaker 4>speeches comes from SNL.

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<v Speaker 2>You're good enough, you're smart enough, damn and gosh, darn

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<v Speaker 2>it people like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Molly, anyway, Well we will play one. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what the wheel lands on, and we'll play one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Come out U later in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on on Wall Street? How long will

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<v Speaker 1>it last? When will it correct itself? And will we

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<v Speaker 1>see that this week? All our answers when we come

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<v Speaker 1>back to Gary and Shannon.

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