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Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 1: Round of applause for DA Nathan Hoffman in the DA's office.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to relitigate that entire thing, but he
Speaker 1: just did.
Speaker 2: He laid out the entire case again, right, all of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why this went to trial,
Speaker 1: not once and not twy I mean, this was litigated
Speaker 1: to jury several juries and they all came up with
Speaker 1: the same conclusion. And you heard him say this was
Speaker 1: not a case about sexual abuse. That the two brothers
Speaker 1: were asked repeatedly at the various trials, was this because
Speaker 1: of sexual abuse? And they said no, that's not what
Speaker 1: this was about. They claimed it was just self defense.
Speaker 1: They thought they were going to die that night, despite
Speaker 1: as he laid out, all the premeditation that went into
Speaker 1: what was clearly not a self defense and the heat
Speaker 1: of the moment killing. So that's the thing, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have So gas Scone came in and said, I
Speaker 1: want to put in this motion in motion essentially to
Speaker 1: reduce the prison terms. Hawkman said He'll let essentially the
Speaker 1: hearings stand, but that they have withdrawn the recommendation to
Speaker 1: reduce the prison terms until these two brothers come out
Speaker 1: and own up to what they did that night and own.
Speaker 2: Up to all the lies they refused to have.
Speaker 3: Done up to this point. I thought that was an
Speaker 3: interesting way to put it. He said, I'm going to
Speaker 3: offer there, we are offering a path, that was his term.
Speaker 3: We are offering a path if Eric and Lyle Menendez
Speaker 3: unequivocally take responsibility for their actions.
Speaker 1: It's the old Republican pathway to citizenship for illegal immigration. Really,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to say no, but I'll
Speaker 1: if you jump over these hurdles and you do all
Speaker 1: these things and you check these boxes, all consider it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the recensing hearing is scheduled for the twentieth, twentieth,
Speaker 2: and twenty first.
Speaker 1: Right, But that's nothing. I mean, the only thing with
Speaker 1: him right now, Hawkman, is that he's saying that the
Speaker 1: judge could have this hearing, and that the judge could
Speaker 1: kind of decide on his own whether or not the
Speaker 1: brothers should be, you know, looked at in terms of
Speaker 1: reducing their sentence. There's no legal instrument to make that
Speaker 1: happen for the judge to go ahead and do what
Speaker 1: the DA's office now says it will not do. Because
Speaker 1: the DA's office said, we'll come to the game. Gascon
Speaker 1: led DA's office said, we're going to argue that these
Speaker 1: should be reduced because of Netflix Justice and it's popular.
Speaker 1: And now Hawkman's like, yeah, we'll show up. We're not
Speaker 1: going to make that case. This is our case. We
Speaker 1: stand with what the jury's found. But the judge can
Speaker 1: go ahead and he can decide one way or the other.
Speaker 1: The law says that the judge cannot. That's not a thing.
Speaker 3: He did lay out what I thought was the other
Speaker 3: interesting aspect. He talked about the basically a parole rating,
Speaker 3: that they get a score based on what sort of
Speaker 3: threat they would be to the outside world, what kind
Speaker 3: of rehabilitation efforts they've made while in prison, and said
Speaker 3: that they get they both get the lowest score possible,
Speaker 3: the best score possible. I think it's a way that
Speaker 3: is a better way to look at it, because of
Speaker 3: their time in getting advanced degrees, you know, associates degrees,
Speaker 3: one of them at least as a BA from UC Irvine.
Speaker 2: Apparently all the online courses that are available.
Speaker 3: So he did talk about that aspect of it, but
Speaker 3: said they just continued to uphold this lie. I think
Speaker 3: he referred to the sixteen lies that they have continued
Speaker 3: to tell, the four of which four other lies that
Speaker 3: they obviously now have said are admitted were lies to
Speaker 3: begin with.
Speaker 1: One of the major things with sentencing, And you will
Speaker 1: learn this if you immerse yourself in true crime documentaries
Speaker 1: you cover these cases. There's one thing that counts above
Speaker 1: all when it comes to sentencing, and it is owning
Speaker 1: up to what you did. And these two are pleading
Speaker 1: for a re sentencing five hundred years after the fact
Speaker 1: and still aren't owning up to it.
Speaker 2: That is a problem. I mean that that is a problem.
Speaker 1: If this trial happened two weeks ago and it was
Speaker 1: over and their sentencing was up. But it's been thirty
Speaker 1: five how many years? Do the math for me?
Speaker 2: Since then?
Speaker 1: And since nineteen ninety whatever? Yeah, that they still have
Speaker 1: not owned up to this. What what do they think
Speaker 1: is going to happen with any sort of chance at
Speaker 1: resentencing us? What judges want to hear, They want to
Speaker 1: hear you say, I did it, I screwed up. Here's why,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I may not have I may have not
Speaker 1: have said that at the trial, and I get it,
Speaker 1: and I did this and I lied about that, and
Speaker 1: yes it was premeditated and all of the things, and
Speaker 1: they haven't done it.
Speaker 2: He referenced the Sirhan Sirhan case a lot. That's weird.
Speaker 2: That was a weird comparison.
Speaker 1: Unnecessary, totally unnecessary, Like obviously has something in his craw
Speaker 1: about Sirhan Sirhan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we did.
Speaker 1: I need First of all, the term case by case
Speaker 1: basis exists for a reason. Why would you compare the
Speaker 1: Menendez brother's case to the Sirhan Sirhan case when they
Speaker 1: are apples and oranges, very different cases.
Speaker 2: What just because they're in the media focus is that?
Speaker 1: Why is that because he's talking to a greater He's
Speaker 1: not making this case before a judge. He's making it
Speaker 1: to the public so that we all kind of know
Speaker 1: who sir Han Surhan is so we can be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's the guy who tried to shoot Bobby Kennedy at
Speaker 1: the Ambassador Hotel in nineteen sixty eight. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: like and he's eighty years old.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, it's not really topical is it so anyway?
Speaker 3: That is the significant that they're going to go forward
Speaker 3: the court initiated resentencing, and basically that Nathan Hawkmann says,
Speaker 3: We're going to give you an opportunity this path, if
Speaker 3: you unequivocally take responsibility for your actions, then we'll talk
Speaker 3: is sort of basically the line that he has put out.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the family members of Lyle and Eric
Speaker 1: Menendez who are calling on a recall of Hawkman. They
Speaker 1: think he should be removed his district attorney over this.
Speaker 2: What you want to move forward.
Speaker 1: With the fact that the two murdered people molested their
Speaker 1: own boys.
Speaker 2: You want to move forward with that.
Speaker 1: That's the narrative you want to withstand the test of time, right,
Speaker 1: Not that these two young men were money hungry and
Speaker 1: made a really bad decision and killed their parents and
Speaker 1: it's tragic and awful. You want to take it a
Speaker 1: step further for your family legacy and said that the
Speaker 1: parents were the mom and the dad were molesting their
Speaker 1: two boys. That's what you want to withstand.
Speaker 3: Come on, that's a weird That is aw weird Hill
Speaker 3: right there? All right, Gary and Shannon will continue. Deborah Mark,
Speaker 3: we haven't had a chance to see how you're doing.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Gary. There's been earthquakes.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: I was taking a little nappy nap and I felt
Speaker 4: that one yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2: It woke me up. I was not.
Speaker 1: Happy, Deborah. Deborah recommended to me as Amy King did Paradise.
Speaker 1: I finished it yesterday and my first thought upon finishing that,
Speaker 1: Deborah was, this is the last show for Deborah Mark
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know why you've been walking around a little nervous
Speaker 1: for the past week. Yeah, yes, because you think the
Speaker 1: end could be nighe.
Speaker 2: I absolutely well.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think that way though, Shannon, it's
Speaker 1: just a show.
Speaker 2: We're fine, We're fine, I know. But the earthquake, the
Speaker 2: big one is it's.
Speaker 1: Eminent, all right, Gary and Gene will getting You're.
Speaker 2: Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 1: Nathan Hawkman says this hour he does not support the
Speaker 1: resentencing of the Menendez brothers. Nathan Hawkman said last month
Speaker 1: that he opposed a new trial, but talked about how
Speaker 1: maybe they could engage in a re sentencing and they.
Speaker 2: Would take a look at the case.
Speaker 1: He's taking a look at the case today in public
Speaker 1: at a press conference. He really litigated all the reasons
Speaker 1: why the menandaz brothers were convicted, why they should not
Speaker 1: get a chance at freedom at least, he says, until
Speaker 1: they accept complete responsibility, noting that the defense in the
Speaker 1: case was self defense at each trial, that they thought
Speaker 1: they were in imminent danger that night, that their parents
Speaker 1: would kill them. Wasn't sexual abuse by the way they
Speaker 1: were asked about it at the trials, they said it
Speaker 1: was not sexual abuse. He also brought up all the
Speaker 1: ways they premeditated in terms of getting the bullets, collecting
Speaker 1: the case, and all the things that we knew about
Speaker 1: if you went through the actual facts of the case
Speaker 1: instead of just watching a dramatized version of what happened
Speaker 1: on Netflix.
Speaker 3: A couple senior Ukrainian officials say that a delegation from
Speaker 3: Ukraine that we'll meet with our Secretary State in Saudi
Speaker 3: Arabia is going to propose a ceasefire with Russia that
Speaker 3: would cover the Black Sea and some long range missile strikes.
Speaker 3: Those officials for Ukraine also say that the delegation is
Speaker 3: ready to sign an agreement with the United States on
Speaker 3: access to.
Speaker 2: The rare earth minerals.
Speaker 3: That was the deal that President Trump was exciting, excited
Speaker 3: to try to secure. Of course the February twenty eighth
Speaker 3: meeting that turned into a disaster in the Oval office.
Speaker 1: The stock market is a unmitigated disaster at this point
Speaker 1: Dow is down seven hundred and fifty four points. Is
Speaker 1: going to not be a disaster. This is what happens
Speaker 1: as investors start freaking out. They're concerned about the tariff situation,
Speaker 1: a recession that could follow. So we'll dive into all
Speaker 1: that coming up after the news at the top of
Speaker 1: the hour and swamp watch.
Speaker 3: We'll place some of the some of our suggestions. We
Speaker 3: were talking about motivational Monday or motivating Monday.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
Speaker 3: We'll figure out the stupid alliteration down in the future.
Speaker 3: But those inspirational speeches that we see in movies and
Speaker 3: TV shows sometimes that make you want to get up
Speaker 3: and run through a wall for whoever, whatever Denzel Washington
Speaker 3: movie it is. And we actually had a couple of
Speaker 3: good ones that were suggested. Some I can't play because
Speaker 3: why well, one suggestion was fine line between a righteous
Speaker 3: rant and inspiration. But Tommy Lesorda on on Kurt Bavaqua.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was another Bovaqua.
Speaker 3: The other one was was him talking about, uh, was
Speaker 3: it Kingman that hit four home runs against them something?
Speaker 2: Yes, that sounds vaguely familiar. We could bleep them.
Speaker 3: I do have one version of that that we could play.
Speaker 3: Stuff is really good. So there's that. Somebody also suggested
Speaker 3: that there was just one that just came out in
Speaker 3: fact Cono from the Morning Show Rick Patino Saint John's
Speaker 3: men's basketball halftime speech from just two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Oh, Larry Bird's not going to walk through that door.
Speaker 1: Rick Patino so love that one.
Speaker 3: So if there's any other suggestions, let us know what
Speaker 3: you think would be great motivation.
Speaker 2: Here's one suggestion. Glad you're Gary, make Shannon laugh. Jack
Speaker 2: Nicholson the movie A Few Good Man. Yes, course, it's
Speaker 2: just going to say that the great listening to you guys,
Speaker 2: thank you well.
Speaker 1: Also when they have lunch, when Jack Nicholson has lunch
Speaker 1: with Tom Cruise, that I eat breakfast three hundred yards
Speaker 1: from four thousand cubans trained to kill me. Think you're
Speaker 1: going to come down here in the word I can't
Speaker 1: say any more white uniform and make me nervous.
Speaker 2: I love that's it's a great way.
Speaker 5: Hey, Gary Shannon, glad to have you guys back. I
Speaker 5: wanted to give a recommendation for the motivational speech the
Speaker 5: two thousand and six remake of Rocky Balboa and he's
Speaker 5: talking to his son and giving him a motivational speech
Speaker 5: about how the world hits hard and doesn't matter how
Speaker 5: hard you get hit. Got it, you can take the
Speaker 5: hits and keep going forward. One of the best motivational
Speaker 5: speeches I heard in that movie.
Speaker 2: That scene.
Speaker 5: I listened to it all the time when I work out.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, by the way, his son Rocky Balboa son, Yeah,
Speaker 3: played by Milo Milo.
Speaker 2: Amelia whatever it is. But I can't say his name.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't know that. But that's one I got.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was his son. No, it's
Speaker 2: not his son.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the character act my little place.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was about.
Speaker 1: Wait, so when are we going to do our motivational
Speaker 1: speech every Monday?
Speaker 2: Like what time?
Speaker 3: I don't know, But let's do it later in the
Speaker 3: show today, just because we have to get through some
Speaker 3: of what people have suggested too. So yeah, A twelve
Speaker 3: thirty Yes, okay, because then it's time for lunch, to
Speaker 3: digestebe and then to get back and attack the second
Speaker 3: half of your day and the week, really the week
Speaker 3: and the rest of the week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety Gary and.
Speaker 4: Shannon coming to you. I'm driving the three ninety five
Speaker 4: listening to Gary's stories about mammoth, and I'm passing all
Speaker 4: the same things you did on my way home from
Speaker 4: Bishop this weekend. And I would want to say, this
Speaker 4: might not be the right motivational speech, but when you
Speaker 4: said that, it made me think of John Belushi's speech
Speaker 4: in Animal House. Funny. Not terribly motivating, though, but you
Speaker 4: might consider it for your wheel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got that a couple of times.
Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. There's another one, Brave Heart. That's an
Speaker 3: easy one.
Speaker 2: Is that the only part? Okay, it's about a minute
Speaker 2: and a half. Okay, what about Abe Lincoln? Four score?
Speaker 3: Not a lot of recordings of Abe Lincoln have to find.
Speaker 3: But that was also the problem with Roosevelt. Not a
Speaker 3: lot of recordings of Teddy Roosevelt.
Speaker 1: But you could use your trans Atlantic accent that you
Speaker 1: use in an adult theater and now in the Hollywood
Speaker 1: major motion picture industry, and you could recreate.
Speaker 3: Them Glengarry Glenn Ross. That was one coffee you know
Speaker 3: that's going to hit Broadway. Coffee is for closers.
Speaker 2: My girlfriends said she's going to go see this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bil Burr is it bil Burr?
Speaker 1: And yeah, not mcculchy.
Speaker 2: Colkin. That his name, that's colly whatever. No.
Speaker 3: St Crispin's speech from Henry the Fifth. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about Shakespeare. I think I'm not sure that gets enough
Speaker 3: people roused.
Speaker 1: There was a excerpt of that just recently in a
Speaker 1: book I'm reading Saint Crispin's.
Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, Gary and Shannon, this is Jillian.
Speaker 4: I just want to say one of my favorite motivational
Speaker 4: speeches comes from SNL.
Speaker 2: You're good enough, you're smart enough, damn and gosh, darn
Speaker 2: it people like you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Molly, anyway, Well we will play one. We'll see
Speaker 3: what the wheel lands on, and we'll play one of them.
Speaker 3: Come out U later in this show.
Speaker 1: What is going on on Wall Street? How long will
Speaker 1: it last? When will it correct itself? And will we
Speaker 1: see that this week? All our answers when we come
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