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<v Speaker 1>Caloroga Shark Media. Hither, I'm Johnny Mack with your daily

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<v Speaker 1>comedy News, a daily briefing on stand up comedy comedians

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<v Speaker 1>in the comedy industry. Jay Leno was on Judd Apatow's

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and thanks Justin for sending this one in. They

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<v Speaker 1>started to discuss the mount Rushmore of comedy. Always a

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<v Speaker 1>fun topic, and I don't know what to do with

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<v Speaker 1>it because I think people have a recency bias and

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<v Speaker 1>get a little crazy and it'll be like we want

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<v Speaker 1>to put somebody who's currently performing up there, or like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes a shooting star. You know, these things are hard

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<v Speaker 1>and you only get four spots. So for me, George Carlin,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Pryor, and two I don't know's, And on any

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<v Speaker 1>given day I might give you a different answer. Carlin

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<v Speaker 1>is undeniable, including if you listen to the very very

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<v Speaker 1>late George Carlin material, which at the time was described

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<v Speaker 1>by people like me as angry boy as it aged

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<v Speaker 1>will George Carlin is somehow the great profit of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first century, So he's undeniable. And the other one

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<v Speaker 1>who's undeniable is Richard Pryor. There are plenty of disciples

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<v Speaker 1>of Richard Pryor starting with Richard Pryor cover act Eddie Murphy,

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<v Speaker 1>who I love. But let's just be real about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see Richard Pryor descendants to today's comedy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>who you would put in the other two? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so part of it is how do you define

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<v Speaker 1>the genre? Is Johnny Carson doing a monologue four nights

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<v Speaker 1>a week for thirty years? Should he be in the list?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Hope for eighty years? And don't judge Bob Hope

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<v Speaker 1>by what he did in his eighties and nineties. Go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch the Young Hope. Should he be there?

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't there any women on the mountain? Okay? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we put say, Joan Rivers up on the list? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, So Carlin Pryor, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jay Leno gave his list. And listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>name he uses for comedian number one. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>anyone called person this other than Jay Leno.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, My four would be, uh, Richie. He was Richie

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<v Speaker 2>Pryor when I know now he's Richard Pryor, But Richie Pryor.

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<v Speaker 2>He would go on the car. He was getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to do Live at the Sunset Strip, the first filmed

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<v Speaker 2>comedy special for theaters, not HBO. And I followed him

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<v Speaker 2>every night because you couldn't follow Richie. And I realized

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have an hour worth of material. I had

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<v Speaker 2>maybe eighteen minutes. But then I just realized, throw out

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<v Speaker 2>everything that doesn't get a laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Richard pryor Jay Lenno and I are aligned there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see who Jay Leno had as number two.

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<v Speaker 2>To Robert Klin, Because you have to understand, prior to

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Klein, most comedians were men in their thirties or

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<v Speaker 2>forties that grew up during the Depression that kids today

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<v Speaker 2>with these hippies with the long hair, that was all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. Suddenly here was Robert Klein, middle

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<v Speaker 2>class guy talking about things I would talk about with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends because I couldn't do Depression era stuff or

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<v Speaker 2>make fun of the music today because that was my generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting pick. I think Robert Klein has been largely forgotten.

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<v Speaker 1>His name never comes up. Very very interesting, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>At number three, Jay Leno, who do you have next

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<v Speaker 1>to me? Bob Newhart?

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<v Speaker 2>He was the close up magician of comedy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>new Heart had the great It was like a slider,

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<v Speaker 2>like an inside fastball. He had a bit about the

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<v Speaker 2>first astronaut to have extraterrestrial communication. So it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, the thing lands, and of course he's

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<v Speaker 2>the first. So all the presses are asking him questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and our porta says, how far ahead of us are

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<v Speaker 2>these aliens? And he says about six weeks, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's two weeks is too soon. Six months is

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<v Speaker 2>too far ahead head, but six you cannot catch up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's finding the right turn of six weeks

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly rot.

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<v Speaker 1>Not crazy again as time marches on mentioned a little

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<v Speaker 1>less and less, a unique voice, one of the greats, Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another thing, all right, Jay, who do you

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<v Speaker 1>have for number four?

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<v Speaker 2>And across Rodney Danefield, Rodney Dangeville was the economy of words.

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<v Speaker 2>He could get to the joke quicker, I knew Rodney

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<v Speaker 2>for forty years. I have no idea if he's a

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat or republic. We never discussied. It was just jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was the you know, like the joke.

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<v Speaker 3>About one after another, the idea that my doctor said,

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<v Speaker 3>I need a stool sample, a semen sample, and a

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<v Speaker 3>urine sample, and I gave my underpants.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting take by Jay Leno. Not sure I agree. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't throw I want to say rocks and throwing

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<v Speaker 1>rocks in the mountain. I won't throw rocks at any

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<v Speaker 1>of these picks. But I don't know Lynn pryor, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the conversation did go on. Jay Leno said,

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<v Speaker 1>if he had a fifth pick, it would be George

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<v Speaker 1>Carlin and I had. I don't know when I even

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<v Speaker 1>saw this story, but I've just been sitting on it

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<v Speaker 1>for an episode like today. Back at twenty fourteen, Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Leno was on Craig Ferguson show. I don't remember that happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but I believe everybody, and Craig asked Jay Leno if

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's mind ever drifted when one of the guests was

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<v Speaker 1>not all that interesting. Jay said, the classic examples I

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<v Speaker 1>had on one of these reality stars, Trista, who apparently

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<v Speaker 1>is Trista Sutter. Jay said, from one of those bachelorettes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking at the side of her head. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be less interested. I've never seen this stupid reality show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it was? And Jay said, to make

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<v Speaker 1>it worse, Jay says he wraps up the show, he leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>I go out on the parking lot. There's a woman

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<v Speaker 1>I have a picture? And I go sure. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>She says good? And Jay asked her what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like just the interviewed on the Tonight show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Kevin Nealan was on Icon versus Icon. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned from so many comments. I bartended the improv

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<v Speaker 1>so I was there all the time, and I'd see

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<v Speaker 1>these comics come that I really enjoyed and was a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of every night to watch them perform and take

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<v Speaker 1>it all in. That's how I learned by watching, and

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. It never even felt like work to me.

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<v Speaker 1>There were comics like Jay Leno and Richard Lewis, so

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<v Speaker 1>I watched closely. Andy Kaufman was a huge influence on

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<v Speaker 1>me because he was so unique, so different, and so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>He played so much with the audience's mind, leading him

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<v Speaker 1>was doing, and really pushing boundaries. I also watched Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>perform because we came up around the same time. More

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<v Speaker 1>or less good advice from Kevin Neelan about the comedy industry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a business. You can't take things personally. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that a long time ago, and things don't really affect

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<v Speaker 1>me that much anymore. Even think in regular life, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not easily shaken. I don't want to say I'm dead inside,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not. But I've gotten used to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of rejection and disappointment, especially in the early stages. More

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<v Speaker 1>from that Forbes conversation between Jerry Seinfeld and Nate Perghancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeld was curious, what's it like touring for you

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<v Speaker 1>these days in terms of workload. Nate said, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a gym. It's a muscle. You got to stay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it. When you don't go out for two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and then you get on stage and you're like, rough,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm awful. Jerry was like, what about when your wife

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go on vacation. Nate said he'll try and

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<v Speaker 1>pop in somewhere to do one show to stay fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry said, it's funny how fast it goes. I find

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<v Speaker 1>not only can you not remember lines, but I louse

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<v Speaker 1>your nerve the you should be even be doing this

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<v Speaker 1>who am I talking to in front of all these people? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeldt thinking that, Nate said, Yeah, there's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>in your head that goes like, who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you are? You out to your mind? Nate continued, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to work on my own mind wandering. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to work on pulling my mind back to the story,

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<v Speaker 1>the joke I was telling. Every time i'm telling it,

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<v Speaker 1>I visualize it. I love it so much. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a different crowd every night. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the round, I'll pick like four people. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be an older lady, could be a family further back,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman with her husband. You keep an eye on them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good way to keep a gauge, like, is

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<v Speaker 1>it too harsh? You're picking four people to do the

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<v Speaker 1>show for weirdly enough instead of a mass. Nate said,

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<v Speaker 1>I like stand up in the arenas. It's really pushing

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to this higher level. I've got big screens,

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<v Speaker 1>a sound system. It's like watching a live special. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about the community and everybody laughing. You want to give

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<v Speaker 1>them a full show. When they all leave, hopefully they're

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<v Speaker 1>very happy. Rob Riggle spoke with Clutch points. Rob said,

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<v Speaker 1>Getting on Saturday Night Live was a dream come true

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<v Speaker 1>with something I'd worked for for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it finally happened, it was hard to process.

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<v Speaker 1>And then being on the stage when they roll credits,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've watched it in my whole life when they

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<v Speaker 1>roll credits everyone's on stage. To be on that stage

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<v Speaker 1>looking back out to where the audience and in the cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>it was surreal. Being on the Daily Show. Getting that

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<v Speaker 1>job was a great, great moment. Get to do movies

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<v Speaker 1>with people that I admire, get to do scenes with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Hanks or people you just love their work and

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate them so much, and then you find yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>a scene with them. I've worked with Rob, I think twice.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out to be super, super awesome in person.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great guy. Rob wrote a book, Grit, Spits

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<v Speaker 1>and Never Quit. He explained, you get to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where you tell enough stories and people go, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>should write a book, and you go all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that enough times you're like, all right, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I should, And then I write down my goals every

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<v Speaker 1>year at the beginning of the year. So I wrote down,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write a book, but it was the

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<v Speaker 1>one goal that didn get accomplished. It just kept rolling

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<v Speaker 1>and rolling over until finally I was ashamed of myself

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<v Speaker 1>and I said write the book, and so I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Took two years, and he explains, you got to remember now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just like I locked myself in a log

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<v Speaker 1>cabin and sat down a road. It's not how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go out there or eat what I kill.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out there for work every day, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>get to show you get a movie, I gotta do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything gets put on hold. So it takes

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<v Speaker 1>time to grind out a book. And Russell Peters told

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<v Speaker 1>a fun story about NBA star Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>has dabbled with comedy. Russell runs into Blake Griffin and goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan. What are you doing here? Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin goes, I'm trying comedy. Russell goes, really, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball player. Blake goes yeah. Russell says, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you because you got red hair? Blake says, I'm mixed. Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>where'd you grow up? I think you grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee or something. Oklahoma. Gotta suck being a big half

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<v Speaker 1>black kid with red hair in Oklahoma, No wonder you're

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<v Speaker 1>good at it? And his face is like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>F Russell says? I'm like, anyway, good luck, stupid, That's

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<v Speaker 1>just how I am. So fast forward in time, Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Peters is court side at the Raptors game Blake Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>playing for Detroit. Russell Hills out Blake Blake, and Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin turns sees Russell Peters and he goes, ah, ef you,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's your Comedy's for Today's Tomorrow