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Speaker 1: What is up, fellow Sikos, I am Dan for Valley,

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coming at you with the certifiably fantabulous mister Grant Hughes.

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The first round of the NBA Draft is officially over.

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Had to check that because we almost jumped on before

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it started. Because I actually, Grant, I beat my deadline.

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I filed like five minutes early, base on what I

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was gonna do. Us kind of leap of faith that

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nothing was gonna happen spectacular in the final five picks

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of the draft. But look at me beating deadlines. We're

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here for one of my favorite pastimes. Now it's and

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we've also got a Yannis trade to get to, other trades,

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transactions to get to We'll get to all of it.

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But this is our twenty twenty six NBA Draft blind reaction,

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where Grant heroically agrees to abstain from consuming or looking at,

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or following any piece of draft content. In the first round.

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He has no idea who was selected, who went where,

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will go through the greatest hits and he will just

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try and guess who went where or if something happened.

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I have to say before we start, Grant, you were

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the one that pitched this a couple of years ago,

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and I was I was open to trying it, but

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wasn't sure like how it would go with us doing it,

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it was so much fun. And so when I circle

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back to you this year for what is now our

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third annual blind every a draft reaction, you seem less

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than enthused about it. You were like, does this really work?

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And so now here we are, I'm trying to sell

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you on your baby. This is your bill.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a tradition unlike any other. It's year three,

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gone strong, check the check the comments, be rich favorite gimmick. Yeah,

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I it is. So I worried a little bit that,

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like one, it's also pretty transparently a way for me

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to be lazy, uh and and to check out of

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like being on my phone or in front of a

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screen or keeping up with anything for several hours on

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a day when, like you know, someone in our line

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of work probably should be paying attention. It's a real

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luxury that I don't have to. So I was a

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little concerned that like just trying to do some self

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as like, am I just using this as an excuse

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to be lazy? Jury's still out. I don't know. I

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do enjoy doing it. I just I was just a

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little worried that maybe, like I don't know if this

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bit works, I don't know if I don't know what

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their true motivation is. I'm still asking those questions. But

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I'm excited to do this because I know it gives

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you joy, and I do. I do like coming in

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with like it's like every year I say this, like

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I know less about these prospects than in any previous year.

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I feel like we were talking off air and like

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I got you know, but still more than ninety nine

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percent of the normal human population. But like, if you're

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listening to this, there's a good chance you've watched more

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tape on Keaton Woggler or Wagler. We also had a

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discussion about I'm not I've heard it pronounce both ways.

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I don't know the answer. I have watched a heck

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of a lot of tape on him, So that's not

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really what's more interesting is like, Okay, we know what

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all these teams need, what they've been like looking to acquire,

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what their weaknesses are, what they're trying to be like

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on the competitive spectrum. And then it's then so like

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if you do feel like it's interesting to think about

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the picks from that perspective. So, you know, hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: We'll see you will, And it's just great. This is

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also that's why you go to hardwood Patreon dot com

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slash Hardware knocks NBA because Grant is willing to debase

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himself right for free mostly but also why don't you

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become a PEG member as well?

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Speaker 2: I'd rather do it for a fee.

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Speaker 1: Right, So let's start with the number one pick, which

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you know, we all know who that was owned by

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Jabell Grant, who had the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: The team that believes in Trey Young, like nobody believes

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and anybody, all right, so they I assume they took

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Speaker 1: You would be correct. O Debonsa went number one.

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but like, okay, so they're committed to Trey Young on

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the biggest not not technically the biggest money they could have,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry I need to interger your band from

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the comments because we already have spoilers in the comments.

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Speaker 2: I was, I saw, I saw that, but I was

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gonna pay I was that was gonna be my guess anyway.

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Speaker 1: But you're officially banned from looking at the comments. Oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Actually, let me close it. I'll

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a right pick. Knowing as little as I know, Demanza

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you're going superstat heavy. And just like the undeniable Boozer

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numbers in college and how those always translate, I get

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Peterson than Boozer. I'm but I can't see the comments.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. The only thing that you I think

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because they invested, you should never draft for fit with

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number one, just to be clear. But with Trey Young

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there and then having Anthony Davis, Alex Sr. Black cool

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year and looks like he could do a lot of

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the on ball stuff. But maybe my grade out is

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a more lethal shooter. But I just think this Wizard's team,

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generate rim pressure themselves like Anthony Davis on the role. Sure,

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it just wants an averaged eight and a half free

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throw attempts per game last year, and so that's just

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like the money. And I think his floor out of

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his ceiling. I've seen Tracy McGrady as like one of

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the one of the better comps I've seen like his

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floor being a Brandon Miller, which if that's his floor,

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sign me up. So I'm just curious to see how

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he comes in and adjust to what I can only

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assume is going to be a lower usage role alongside

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Speaker 2: That's that's a huge worry I think. I mean, that's

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we're not here to really talk about this aspect of it.

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those good even the best versions of those Hawks offenses

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been picked here is will that And like maybe it

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doesn't matter a rookie year because basically nobody's good as

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it alone. I'm just gonna shot on the Trey Young signing.

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Speaker 1: Well it's I think, well, and we're gonna talk about

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the Trey Young signing at the end of all this.

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bit quicker. There's something to it, at least in my

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mind of if your role is streamlined for aj Debontcea

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on Trey. I honestly, I think Trey has become a

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little underrated, just the way that people or I would

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not have paid him what they paid him. We'll get

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into it later, but I think that as a playmaker,

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as a guy who can set up shots, draw attention

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when he gets into the lane. If you need someone

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to work within confined spaces, when you look at some

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of these lineups, Washington might be running out. I think

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he could be helpful. But I also believe you could

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put a bunch of other guy Not that the Wizards

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could have gotten these guys, but you could put a

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bunch of other floor general types in here and feel

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way better about it than having Trey Young there.

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Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, I'm not optimistic. You could be right.

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pick in a row, because one it's been spoiled and

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two this was it had to be Darren Peterson number

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you knew this, but good job

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by you. One hundred percent hit rate through two picks.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good. Uh what do we think about him and

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Speaker 1: In Utah? This feels like a cleaner fit to me.

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that he falls. I'm not saying he would have been

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a bad fit, but when you look at what Darren

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does remind me a lot of Anthony Davis. When he

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a little like more of a forceful athlete, was my recollection.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. It's tough because I don't remember.

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the limited prep I did, is like the the idea

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of like maybe best shooter in the class kept coming up,

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and so like, all right, well then I'm good that

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could play anywhere. And then the other thing that came

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up was what you mentioned is like the the shock

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creation for others was not there in college. But if

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you watch his high school tape, everybody would everybody I

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listened to would say that, and it's like, this dude

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can like he could be a number one create for yourself,

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another type guy that's more on what I'm oh, well,

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what's that mean? For Keante George? I thought he was

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the whole reason we fast tracked this thing. I mean,

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a major reason that they fast tracked this thing. But

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if Peterson is the level of shooter that some people

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think he is, then I sort of don't have any

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concerns anymore.

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Speaker 1: Does that?

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think, honestly not that a AJ probably

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shouldn't have done this, even though he his defense feels

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very assignment based. Is what a lot of people pointed out.

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the ban, say is Yeah, for someone with that size,

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it's awkward, but he he almost this might be a

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terrible undup. But he reminds me of Klay Thompson. Whereas

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you tell Klay Thompson will shut down that guy, I

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to navigate screens to get it done. But with Peterson,

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the other team's best guard, Peterson at his peak or

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got better defensively this past year. But to have Peterson

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there as that backstop or that primary, I think they

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can work well together. I do wonder though, if this

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makes it less likely that Keante George gets an extension

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because Utah wants to see what that partnership looks like,

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and they're also gonna have to navigate. It would have

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been way weirder with Debansa in Utah. There's gonna be

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some functional friction just with Ace Bailey, Darren Peterson, Keante George,

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Larry Market and Jaron Jackson Junior. If Walker Kesler comes back,

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you effect to me, I look at that as well.

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You have six starters, long term starters on your team,

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so how do you navigate that? But the fit feels

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more intuitive, and it's not they didn't choose Peterson or

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Demands a hero. He was just the guy that was there.

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So I think with the shooting and what I think

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he'll be able to do for them defensively, this is

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it's gonna be a great And honestly, when you look

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at the contensus four picks, you couldn't like, why would

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you pick Boozer or even Kleble. You have Larry Markin

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and Jaron Jackson Jr. So never mind Walker Kesler, but like,

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why are you picking one of those other two guys?

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Speaker 2: What do you think this means for Cody Williams.

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Speaker 1: I think that he'll probably win most in Roof Player

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and begin his MVP treck as early as twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Actual perfect. Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.

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Speaker 1: Who had the third pick? Did they trade itt? Uh?

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Speaker 2: This is you're trying to trick me. Uh No, the

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Memphis Grizzlies with the number three pick select Can Boozer.

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Speaker 1: They did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the people that rely on the analytics

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are like, this guy's the number one player in this draft,

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and it's not close. You know, it's and and I

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have to say, like when we talked in passing about him,

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I don't know a week ago, I was kind of

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like everything I hear, I just kind of hate it.

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I just like, not athletic enough, cannot score against like

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sized players. But then the other stuff you hear, put

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the put the numbers aside, like you might just he

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might have been the correct number one pick if you

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just trust the if you just trust it was Oh,

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I mean, I just Cody Williams is right there. I

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have to break it out. Uh, Like, there's a case

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to be made that Boozer should have gone first, just

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because guys like with his like statistical translations from college

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that are that productive at at that age. By the way,

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he's the youngest of the consensus top four by like

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by a year almost. I think those guys like don't fail.

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It was hard for me to just trust the numbers

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with like some of the physical profile stuff. But then

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it's like you also hear about the incredible like court

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mapping he does, Like maybe he's this pick and roll spammer,

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Like how like me, the shot might be there. Maybe

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he's like Kevin Love is a floor or like you know.

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Then I'm kind of so I'm definitely off of the

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I just don't see how it could work train, which

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I was on for a minute. So I think this

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is the right pick. It is possible he's the best

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player in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this. This is funny. Character says, let's

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go redacted. Pete also said I think Jake Fisher actually

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ran shams off Twitter tonight with the scoops. Jake Fisher

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was so I don't know, he had some iffy Jared

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McCain stuff, back in the day when he was reported that.

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But he he must have had Sham so shook that.

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Sham's excuse me, just tweeted the same thing like five

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times before we jumped on basically, so Schams was shook.

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But yeah, So we had had that conversation that you mentioned.

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So I went and before we I talked with Jonathan Wasserman.

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I was watching as much of like digesting as much

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of these prospects as I could. Maybe I was going

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into it with such a low opinion of Cambouse that

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I came away blown away, And so I said, I

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understand all the concerns, but I think anyone who's trying

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to and I know that you're we're kind of forced

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to give comps now, but anyone who's trying to pin

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him down to a singular offensive player, it's just not

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gonna work because I don't know that I've ever seen

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anything like this, and it's just his the effort, like

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the low effort ability of him to be able to

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run picking rolls is the like just the initiator as

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a I know he's six' nine and so it's, oh

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we've seen six nine point forwards, before but he just

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looks like a big and So i'm not a big

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fan of these like pure, fours AND i think that's

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really what he. Is he can't can't play the, three

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and he probably can't play the. Five you need to

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be in a very like maybe an Okayc, basically.

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Speaker 2: Well it just doesn't sound like he's he can defend

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the rim LIKE i just unless you just become the

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greatest positional defender of all time like you. Just BUT

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i just physically he does not have the tools to

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be a backline. ANCHOR i feel confident with.

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Speaker 1: That but part of, defense and what do we say

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this About jokic is that ending possessions is. Valuable sure

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he does that on age class and we're now at

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a point where how many teams are trying to win

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the possession. Battle his offensive rebounding is gonna be uh

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is gonna be. Critical and That karagan, said this is

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the ONE i brought UP i think to was was

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he reminds me of just like a less athletic Peak

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Blake griffin In. Detroit but even he's more fluid on the.

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Speaker 2: BALL i think he's a better decision, maker like he's

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a more natural like he Just i've used. THIS i

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can't remember like which PLAYERS i have misapplied this, to

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but it's probably like he he's like a he's a

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correct decision, Factory like just like when he gets the,

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ball it goes where it's supposed to, immediately and and

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that kind of like unteachable. Field maybe it's. TEACHABLE i don't.

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Know he's like the son of AN nba, player so

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he's probably had great. Teachers but whatever it.

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Speaker 1: Is like you didn't see, this by the, Way Carlos

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boozer just being so he looked so. Overjoyed it was

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just one of those moments where it's like that is freaking.

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Cool that was just. Great his smile was like he

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might still be like it might just beat his face of.

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Structure now he was smiling so so.

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Speaker 2: Wide so the whatever that is that he has the

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feel court, mapping, anticipating good antisip whatever it, is like

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he's just a basketball player like that thing coupled with the,

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youth like he is young for the, class LIKE i

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you can kind of trust him more than you would

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others to like figure it. OUT i would, say like

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to overcome the. Limitation there are real, Limitations like there's

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just no getting around that but BUT i do think

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if you're gonna bet on someone to sort it, out

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you may be bet on this guy who also like

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could not have been more statistically, dominant like you, know

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at the level the highest level he was allowed to

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play at at the, Time so like that stuff just.

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Counts he's gonna be one of the most one of

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the players in this. Class i'm most interested to, watch

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just because there's so many like polarizing pluses and, minuses

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LIKE i just don't know how it's all gonna.

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Speaker 1: Work and what's, interesting he ended up in a good

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spot if Zach edy is healthy to have him as

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sort of that backstopper and. Protector but the problem then

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is that might be one of the least mobile switcher

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front courts in THE nba right. Now and So i'm

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curious to see How boozer. Does there's no, oh he's

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gonna be stashed on the pick or something like you're

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just you. Can't you can't do that at least in

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their core. Lineup So i'm gonna be watching. That but

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Zak edy is, healthy he also does do a lot

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of what Like Cam boozer is not like just protect

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the rim on the defensive end is, huge and that

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you might there might be some stretch To zach and

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so could You you could easily run like like Camp

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busher could run a pick and roll With Cedric coward

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Or Jalen wells or who's ever playing guard While Zach

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edy is. Spacing so there's just all these options For

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memphis offense. Now But i'm with.

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Speaker 3: YOU i.

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Speaker 1: Came maybe it's because we our opinion of him though

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was led to be so low at the, beginning BUT i,

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Came i'm really, Yeah i'm with, you but one more polarizing,

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Prospects BUT i think he's gonna be really. Good. Yeah

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who had number who had a number? Four who ended

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up with a number four? Pick Grant, well The bulls had.

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Speaker 2: It i'm gonna assume they kept it by correct, there

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And i'm gonna say they Picked Caleb. Wilson this will

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be the last pick THAT i feel remotely confident about they.

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Speaker 1: Did you were spot on there that Was do you

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think that who had the easier? Decision memphis Or?

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Speaker 2: Chicago, HONESTLY i Think. Memphis uh, well, NO i see

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what you're. Saying everybody and their mother thought this was

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the top. FOUR i think based on my cursory. RESEARCH

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i just sort of. DON'T i think there was a

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drop off at. Three and Maybe wilson should be in

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a tier by himself just because the next tier of

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players are all or most of them are like similar

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or same. Position BUT I i. DON'T i don't totally Get,

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wilson like from What i've heard and seen and read

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as like AN nba, PLAYER i don't because there's not

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a lot of like he's not expected to be able

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to shoot necessarily, right and he's hyper. Athletic seems like

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a four that's not a five or a. Three H

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AND i just don't know what you do with that.

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Guy and and just, anecdotally players THAT i when you're

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describing his qualities that come to mind are like real

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bust like hyper athletic fours that like don't that are

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kind of neither here nor, there like Like Tyrus thomas

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or like The Stromile, swift like those guys to go

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back a long. Way but like WHEN i was Hearing

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Caleb wilson's skill set described BEFORE i watched, him those

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two guys came to mind, Immediately AND i just. Don't

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i'm Sure i'm like way off base or like mostly.

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Oversimplifying i'm not surprised he was the pick, here BUT

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i was never as high on him as as As

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boozer or either the top.

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Speaker 1: Two, yeah that's WHY i Think memphis probably actually had

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the easier, decision Because Kayla wilson was number six on

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my personal big board that everyone should take as. Gospel

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but when you do watch, him there's a real passing

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you could call, it like right decision making factory guy

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that's there for. Him and, DEFENSIVELY i think he has

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the ability to actually play some five but also to

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just be as dominant on defense as like A Scottie.

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Barnes it's funny the two of the, Player the two

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players THAT i came away thinking about WHEN i was

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watching him Was Calin Murray boyles And Scottie. Barnes and

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so that player has a lot of offensive, holes of,

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course and SO i think the the swing with him

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is going to, Be, yes there's the jump, shot but

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if he can't do, that it's, well then how many

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minutes can he log at the? Five AND i think

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that he has enough just like not just forget the

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athleticism and the tools and the speed it which he,

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plays BUT i think that he just has enough to get.

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By maybe not as a perma, five but if that

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was to be one of your like core lineups him

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featuring a, FIVE i THINK i think.

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Speaker 2: He'll be able to do, it or at least he's

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viable somewhere other than the, four which is like a

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non position almost, now Then I'M I i would retract.

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Speaker 1: Some of WHAT i. Said The Tyres thomas slander will

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will not. STAND i don't know what, LIKE i offensively

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like you want to have good spacing around, him, though

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and so if you want to play him at the,

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FOUR I i don't know that you need a stretch,

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five like he either needs to develop a jump shot

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or if he's, not then he might need to play.

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It because if you play him with a traditional, five

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if you chopped him Into toronto right now and made

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him play with YAKA, PERTL i think you're gonna have real.

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Speaker 2: Issues, yeah, okay if There's Scottie barnes, upside THEN i, defensively.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, yeah BECAUSE i Think Scotty barnes came in and

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they were like it felt we felt BETTER i think

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at the time about his. Handle if we didn't feel

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good about his but there's like this is SO i

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don't think he needs to just be in space to

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make passing the Cab. BOLSON i, mean and so can

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he run a half court? Offense, NO i don't think

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that's gonna be his bag, either. Though all, right this

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is where the draft starts get, interesting, Right but? WHO

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i think the first question is who had the fifth?

470
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: Pick, okay, yeah so The clippers could have traded. It

471
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,680
i'm GONNA i feel Like i'm just going off the

472
00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:27,000
vibe of when we first signed on. Here you didn't

473
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240
look to me like a guy that had just witnessed

474
00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,279
the top five pick get. Traded So i'm gonna go

475
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000
with The. CLIPPERS i don't know what that. Means it

476
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,960
looks surprised enough The clippers kept. It, okay you got that?

477
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,279
Speaker 3: Right?

478
00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:41,559
Speaker 2: Yeah all? Right so this is this is where we

479
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,119
get into the like how many are? There? One? There There's,

480
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,119
Flemings woggler Or. Waggler jury's out a. Cuff your, boy your,

481
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,279
Guy Michael Brown. Junior WHO i assume you had fifth

482
00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:56,880
on your board BECAUSE i remember you saying you liked.

483
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,200
Him he was actually ahead Of boozer UNTIL i went.

484
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,519
Watched so it fell to me Like i'm Gonna i'm

485
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:09,240
gonna Go Keaton. Woggler If woggler sounds, Wrong i'm gonna

486
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,799
Say waggler and correct me. Somebody you got. It you're.

487
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't know if you pronounced it, right but

488
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,200
you were.

489
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:20,319
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah SO i GUESS I I i this is

490
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,720
WHERE i have to just plead. Ignorance LIKE i understand

491
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,599
that the you, know depending on your, perspective any of

492
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,119
like four or five of the of the available like

493
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:31,839
lead guard types could have gone. Here did you watch

494
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,240
much tape on him or when you talk to was

495
00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,519
did you get a sense of like what what is

496
00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:40,680
the what's the defining if The clippers made the correct pick? Here?

497
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:43,319
Why like what was it about him that justified?

498
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,279
Speaker 1: IT i think that he is this bigger guard who

499
00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:49,559
can run your offense or play Alongside Darius, Garland and

500
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,200
so it's not that not that you should have made

501
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,119
this pick or Or Woggler.

502
00:23:54,319 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: FAUREOLER.

503
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: I SO i think that's a big, deal AND i

504
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,279
feel the only, reason not the only, reason BUT i

505
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,039
as a shot, creator as someone who's probably gonna be

506
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,440
able to score from every level but also doesn't need the.

507
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,599
Ball i'm not saying if he needed to be on,

508
00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:14,319
ball That Darius garland needs to reshape your decision. Here

509
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,880
but the fact that he can slide in play With,

510
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,119
kawhi play With Darius, garland you don't have to allocate

511
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920
him a certain number of. Touches BUT i also think

512
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,880
maybe he can come in right, away and is he

513
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,440
gonna run a lot of your second. UNITS i have

514
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,279
questions about him on. DEFENSE i think that's why people

515
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,160
because when you look at the fluidity with which he,

516
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,200
plays doesn't play as, FAST i don't. Think But Tyre's

517
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,799
howelburton coms were getting thrown out there a little. Haphazardly

518
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,640
but you can see it on defense because it, Was,

519
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,359
oh he might be in the right, spots but he's

520
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:44,640
just not strong and so that's gonna not serve and

521
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,400
he's not gonna be super quick laterally against some of these.

522
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,319
Guys so or excuse. Me in, GENERAL I I i

523
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,960
wouldn't have made this. PICK i Had mike Cal Brown junior.

524
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,519
Higher BUT i love this pick for The clippers BECAUSE

525
00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:00,759
i think that this is Our we don't really know

526
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,519
what The clippers' long term game is at the. Moment

527
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,960
it was the zoobots And harden trains made you think

528
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,440
that there was a little bit of a, Reset but

529
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,240
does that mean they're prioritizing Later, NOW i think he's

530
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,039
someone who could come.

531
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,319
Speaker 2: In and he.

532
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: WILL i don't know how good he'll. Be but if

533
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000
you are able to play off the ball and are

534
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:18,599
going to be in lineups with at least one Of

535
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,920
kawhi Or Darius garland all, time like they're gonna like

536
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,160
The clipper's gonna have some just gnarly like you put

537
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240
all three of them on the court. TOGETHER i don't

538
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:28,799
know how you're necessarily supposed to stop, them because all

539
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,079
of them can create off the. Dribble kawhi doesn't need

540
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,359
to get to the. Basket they can all space the.

541
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,319
Floor SO i think it's a good pick by The.

542
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,680
CLICK i think it's a good pick by The. CLIPPERS

543
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,359
i think it's fit is.

544
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: Fantastic, okay Cool. Uh now we get to so the

545
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,039
The nets came into the night with the six. PICK

546
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:50,640
i assume they kept.

547
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,279
Speaker 1: It i'm man, right they kept.

548
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: It no trades, STILL i guess that's not. Shocking they

549
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,000
took a million guards last. Year they just traded For

550
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,519
Julius randall, uh who presumably will also be on the

551
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,160
ball like a fair. Amount BUT i don't think they

552
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480
went away from The guards. That so now we're down

553
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:18,519
To so here's the here's gonna be my. Logic you're

554
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:19,960
five For i'm gonna put any pressure on.

555
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: You but you're five for five so.

556
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,079
Speaker 2: Far i'm gonna get. This i'm gonna get this wrong

557
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,039
Because i'm gonna deviate a little bit on the thinking

558
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,440
that The kings cannot have nice. Things they picked. SEVENTH

559
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119
i feel like they wanted a. Cuff So i'm gonna

560
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,279
say The nets took a cuff because The kings can't

561
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,279
have what they. Want And i'm prepared to be.

562
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Wrong you good thing you're, prepared because you were. Wrong

563
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,480
they Took mike.

564
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,559
Speaker 2: That, guy that's the chalk.

565
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: PICK i.

566
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,039
Speaker 2: SHOULDN'T i shouldn't have tried to get. CUTE i blew

567
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,160
my perfect top. Ten this is.

568
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: Cold whatever The clippers, do just don't trade this six

569
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,319
six minutes guard to The thunder a year and a

570
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:58,680
half from.

571
00:26:58,759 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: Now what could go?

572
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Wrong OBVIOUSLY i love this. Pick, Yeah i've COMPARED Mikel

573
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Brown junior to like he plays like LaMelo ball with a.

574
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,240
CONSCIENCE i know a lot of people aren't high on his,

575
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:12,680
defense but a lot of the defense of. Playmaking he

576
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,839
can do the ball denial, stuff some the steels he

577
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,279
can get in passing, leans the transition opportunities it. CREATE

578
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,640
i love. It there's some concerns about the streaky, shooting,

579
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:25,319
fair the back issues this past. Year, FAIR i think

580
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,000
we're LOOKING i think The nets got an ALL nba

581
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,599
player that would be. Ivided you gave me point five

582
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:32,279
over under ALL nba, Teams i'll take the over for his.

583
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: Year get all? RIGHT i love. It you're so if

584
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,759
you're given winners just in terms of, value because THERE

585
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:39,039
i mean you say you could See brown on some

586
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,559
people's boards as like he's in the ten to twelve, range,

587
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,880
right like The it's.

588
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i didn't name The nets as the biggest winner

589
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,680
BECAUSE i don't view this as like for me. Specifically,

590
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,799
yeah they're a huge, Winner BUT i didn't LIKE. Mikel

591
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:56,519
Brown junior going at six is not some value play by, consensus,

592
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920
right Unless i'm missing? Something, no, no, NO I i

593
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:00,559
was like.

594
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: The HAD i not tried to get too, CUTE i

595
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,480
THINK i would have picked him over Like flemings Or

596
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:09,519
i've said a cuff OR i. GUESS i guess buries

597
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,319
would fit into that, chunk all, Right so then The

598
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,680
kings must have gotten a cuff at.

599
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: Seven it turns out grant that, WELL i, mean it

600
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,039
depends on your mileage of. Ken The kings have nice,

601
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:21,920
things and they Got darius a cuff at, Seven so

602
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,960
you were right. There now you say The kings can't

603
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,640
have nice, things so implying That darius a cuff isn't.

604
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,279
Speaker 2: Just because that's who they. WANTED i don't know how

605
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,079
nice of a thing he, is but it seemed like

606
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720
that's that's who they sort of had their hopes pinned.

607
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,119
On whether that's that that might be a pretty good

608
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,279
argument for the like that was not the right guy

609
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:42,559
because they liked. Him BUT i get, it like he

610
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:46,720
so of this, group he's the most like bona fide, scorer,

611
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,279
correct like which of you?

612
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:48,839
Speaker 1: Know eya?

613
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: POINTS i guess is kind of the thinking for The.

614
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: KINGS i, mean, sure just to add another guard to the.

615
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,960
Fold is THIS i don't know if this Is could

616
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960
you call The king's guards winners or losers? Here because

617
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,720
you're more likely to get traded if you're A eliite

618
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:04,599
monk or Zack lavine or get waived if You're DeMar

619
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,279
deroz and he's not really guard. Anymore but you get

620
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:06,599
Where i'm.

621
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:07,559
Speaker 2: Going he's getting.

622
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,519
Speaker 1: Waived so is that does that make him a? Winner

623
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,680
or look because you escape The, kings he's.

624
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,759
Speaker 2: A point, guard, Right acuff is a point guard or

625
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,599
he's gonna play point? Guard, Correct, so, LIKE i don't.

626
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,400
KNOW i, Mean monk is a combo. GUY i, Mean

627
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Devin carter is not someone you're gonna who cares if

628
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680
you're taking touches from. Him russ is a free, agent

629
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,279
LIKE i, mean so is the concern that like A

630
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,480
cuff is gonna get his own too, much and so

631
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,880
like the other guys around him will not be. Scoring,

632
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,160
like is is that what why YOU'RE i.

633
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Just don't think that you can win a title with

634
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,160
a small, Guard, OKAY i just don't think it's been

635
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:45,839
JUST i.

636
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: Do do you remember like ten days ago or a week, Ago,

637
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,799
no what? Happened it's hard to. Say it's hard to.

638
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: SAY i do worry about him on defense because he

639
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,759
is one as as far as quote unquote a small

640
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:00,400
guard would.

641
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,079
Speaker 2: Go the infrastructure there is, Fine, dan don't. Worry don't

642
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:05,000
worry about.

643
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: That Right AND i think you need to now build your,

644
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,640
team which they have not done in the image of

645
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,359
having him as the. Focal but they're not even. Close

646
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,359
SO i think insulating him AND i think that him

647
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,960
being kind of on the stronger end will. Help BUT

648
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,279
i JUST i don't. Know if you ask me if

649
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:26,119
they should have taken somebody else, here probably. Not, okay

650
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:27,519
when you look at there are other guys THAT i,

651
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,759
Like but for the there's there's at least one, other

652
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,079
probably two other players THAT i like a lot. More

653
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,519
but for The king, SPECIFICALLY i THINK i can get

654
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,839
on board with this. Pick BUT i do think that

655
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,279
his value is gonna be very infrastructure dependent, dependent not

656
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,279
just on, defense but even on. Offense if you're looking

657
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:46,440
at the way he's gonna create space in the mid,

658
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:47,759
range if you want him to get all the way

659
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:50,680
to the, basket it's gonna be very infrastructure. Dependent they

660
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,359
don't have it right. Now this is to say The

661
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,279
kings can't go build that, Out BUT i do like

662
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:57,039
The if you're gonna go with a small, guard and

663
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,079
this is not just Because Jaylen brunson won the. Title

664
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:03,440
the small guard that's like and six two is not overwhelmingly.

665
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,440
Small John brunson's probably. Five he's listed at. Six, yeah

666
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,039
but he's, yeah uh but like if he has some,

667
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,480
STRENGTH i think that boat Like Kyle, lowry is the

668
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:13,960
ONE i keep coming back. To it's just like he

669
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,759
was six basically six foot and like Even Chris paul

670
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,240
and So acus not, stocky like either one of the

671
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:21,839
stock he's either one of those. Guys but he'll get,

672
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,039
stronger like he's what is he only twenty eight years?

673
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: Old how old is say he's?

674
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,079
Speaker 1: Nineteen he's, nineteen so even, better he's gonna continue to

675
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,079
get to get. Strong BUT i, think, look you look

676
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,920
at his usage when he was At, arkansas and THERE'S

677
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,319
i think he not that you want to move him

678
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,480
off the ball In, sacramento but if you are going

679
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,960
to keep DeMont To, sibonis he does have the like

680
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
the movement patterns off the, ball and ALSO i think

681
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,240
just the shooting off the. Ball he'll be able to

682
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,880
play alongside either another primary ball handle or someone Likes

683
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,759
sabonis if you want him to operate as a.

684
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,799
Speaker 2: Hub, yeah all, right number?

685
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,359
Speaker 1: Eight now though who had had number?

686
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,279
Speaker 2: Eight The? Hawks? Right is that they did they keep? It?

687
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:08,480
Yeah they? Did So i'm thinking this Is. Flemings, uh.

688
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: You would be, correct correct kind.

689
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: Of the, last Because burry's is more of a TWO i, think?

690
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,039
Speaker 1: Right is?

691
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: That is that your reading of? It or is, yeah

692
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,759
he's Not he's not a.

693
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: He's like what he kind of reminds me of what

694
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,200
If Kank nipple could make all? Defenses HOW i would

695
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,759
Like Braden burry's. Peak it's just.

696
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Okay if you're wondering where he was on my, board

697
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:37,519
he was, Okay so, Yeah flemings is kind of the

698
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
last then for a little bit, here he's the last

699
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:42,640
of that. CHUNK i Guess burry's is sort of in that.

700
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:48,160
Chunk but, yeah that's about it of that that cohort

701
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,880
of guards, there and they just needed someone to make

702
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,119
their half court offense. Better.

703
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: UH i GUESS.

704
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: Cj McCollum will have some of those responsibilities, Again but

705
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920
that seemed pretty logical to. ME i NEVER i. DO

706
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:04,200
i do feel like you saw some interest in In

707
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,160
mara for, Them but Like i'm if A congo was my,

708
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,799
Five i'm. HAPPY i Just i'm willing to address the

709
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,319
guard thing before. That although like again it's a, rookie

710
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
is he gonna come in and captain a playoff team

711
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:15,559
and run the.

712
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Like probably the answer is, no BECAUSE i think that

713
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,640
this was, probably uh, yeah this was my least favorite

714
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,079
pick in the.

715
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Top, okay by, far tell me. MORE i can't pretend

716
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,079
to know a heck of a lot about.

717
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,119
Speaker 1: HIM i, look there's been a lot of talk about his,

718
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,960
athleticism and maybe it was the spacing which that he

719
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,640
was working with in. School but WHEN i When i'm

720
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,680
watching him in that, like it just didn't pop off the.

721
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Page When i'm watching the possessions of while he was At,

722
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,880
houston the shooting is thirty eight point seven percent from. Three, okay,

723
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160
cool you took under three attempts per game getting to

724
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,279
the mid. RANGE i guess is. Fine he's he can

725
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,960
get to the, basket but his finishing was under sixty

726
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,640
percent at the. Rim didn't shoot too well on, LAYUPS i.

727
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,039
Believe so that's just not gonna do it for. Me

728
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,000
and when you look at the, Again i'm not saying

729
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000
they should have drafted For, fit but the infrastructure of

730
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:06,799
The hawks Where Dyson, Daniels Jalen johnson as of, Now Jonathan,

731
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760
kaminga you don't like there's there's no lights out shooters

732
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,199
on this. Team you don't look at the MEAN i

733
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,920
guess maybe Kiss bert for now Or buddy healed technically for,

734
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,239
Now but you don't look at this team and think

735
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,840
that they're the floor is gonna be. It you can

736
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,119
get to a point where you have four quote unquote,

737
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,159
shooters but none of them are. Dynamite and so if

738
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,519
he's not, GONNA i don't know that he's gonna translate

739
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,639
to off the. Ball the fact that he does perform

740
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,119
so well defensively that modes well for this. Team like

741
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,639
they have a lot of disruptors on the court right.

742
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,960
Now BUT i think there's a chance and maybe this

743
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:37,920
isn't good or. Bad like you use the number eight,

744
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,639
pick you probably want them to, play, RIGHT i don't

745
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,599
know that he's guaranteed to play on this. Team next

746
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,880
He's Aaron, wiggins is, There? Nika Alexander walker's? There you

747
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,760
Brought seg McCollum. Back they have immediate. EXPECTATIONS i Don't

748
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,599
i'm not, RIGHT i won't right. Off we did this

749
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:53,880
earlier in our careers when we used to have to

750
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,280
do all the. Busts i'm not about to go. There

751
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,159
it was the eighth. PICK i don't you know DO

752
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,320
i think he'll be better Than Rob.

753
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: Dillingham, yeah it's, say that's a scary comp right if

754
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,559
you're taking if you're taking one of these, guards that's

755
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:06,760
the scary like' and he He.

756
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: Flemings profiles just differently because of the defense for. Starters

757
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,719
BUT i. Didn't MAYBE i just need to watch more of.

758
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Him but the athleticism did not disarm me the way

759
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,280
that people are talking. About and again that could be

760
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,760
more About houston, spacing BUT i don't think like The. Hawks,

761
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,079
okay they'll get out in, transition so that should. Shine

762
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,199
but when you're looking at The hawks', lineup LIKE i

763
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,480
think you're gonna run into issues and wonder can he

764
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:33,199
play with two Of Jalalen, Johnson Jonathan kaminga And Dyson

765
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,719
daniels on the. Court we already know you can't play

766
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,000
like all three Of daniels If kminga's still, There johnson.

767
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,519
Together so this is it's not even about the. Fit

768
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:44,639
but maybe The, hawks like they might need to move

769
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,840
some pieces around if they want to actualize the best

770
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,079
version Of. Flemings AND i just don't know if they're

771
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:55,079
on that type of. Trajectory, okay they're gonna prioritize winning

772
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,039
over the development Of, flemings IS i guess more so

773
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,440
my point and that's not a. Situation, yeah THAT i

774
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,320
think is good for him because there's just for me

775
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,079
too many rough edges to his offensive.

776
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,639
Speaker 2: Game, OKAY i get.

777
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,280
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783
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,079
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784
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,880
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785
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,880
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786
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:35,679
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788
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:37,840
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789
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: All, Right so that takes us to What dallas has

790
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,159
nine or came. In i'm gonna Assume dallas kept the,

791
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:49,840
pick and, MAN i want to, Say bury's. HERE i

792
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,239
have some thought to, Like, oh they're worried That Derek

793
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,320
lively's never gonna be healthy and they maybe go with

794
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
the big But i'll Just i'll Go. BURY'S i feel

795
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,719
like most people had him among their top, eight So

796
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,239
i'm Gonna i'm gonna get your second.

797
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,559
Speaker 1: Miss they went with A Dusty days.

798
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: Guy, okay more As.

799
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: JOHNSON I i, mean, look this team is gonna be

800
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,519
If Derek lively is healthy and you Have Cooper flag

801
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:17,880
and you have more As, johnson they were going to

802
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,840
be beasts on the defensive. End that's just like you

803
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:22,880
have so MANY i mean you look At Max christy

804
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,159
being on this, team even just the the size and

805
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:29,599
physicality OF. Pj, Washington Naji. Marshall we'll see how many

806
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,840
of these guys actually stick. Around aside From flag And,

807
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,800
johnson Even, Lively i'm just curious he's extension eligible and

808
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,239
has had a bunch of. Injuries i'm just like With

809
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,960
burry's on the, board just sort of felt, like couldn't

810
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,320
you use more shooting Around Coper?

811
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,679
Speaker 2: Flag when have you ever had when is the when

812
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,639
is that too much shooting a? Problem that's that would

813
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:51,519
be my take on. It all.

814
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:55,599
Speaker 1: Right i'm not surprised because of the like the The michigan.

815
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,800
TIES i GUESS i didn't GIVE i didn't give that

816
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,639
enough thought though going, In BUT i, DON'T i don't.

817
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:03,039
KNOW I burray's would have been the pick, here But

818
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,159
DUSTY i called WHAT i call Him Dusty Day Dusty.

819
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:08,159
Speaker 2: May, SO i, mean how do you, think, Uh Linda

820
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:10,280
borg And marra feel about? That they were sitting right.

821
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,320
THERE i think most people had them mocked ahead Of,

822
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,599
johnson right like those guys were.

823
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:18,519
Speaker 1: Both So wash did say, that And wasp wasn't A

824
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:22,880
johnson guy, either but he did say That glasco's hemosode

825
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000
pick the six nine in prospect with questions he's got

826
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:30,760
a Tight wash did say That Morris johnson was skyrocketing

827
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000
up people's draft, boards WHICH i JUST i always find

828
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,679
fascinating because it's what is happening in these sort of

829
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,000
simulated workouts that is making you, think, wheah he's. Sixteen,

830
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:44,840
no like he's top eight pick top nine pick now, Yep.

831
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,599
Speaker 2: No that's VERY i gotta, say like this this is

832
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:52,599
to to relate to this from my real life. Experience you, know,

833
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,679
yeah let's there's a tryout for this travel baseball. Team

834
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,679
it's going to be two. Days it's like you really

835
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
think they're basing their decisions on on what the kids

836
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,440
do those two, Days like they know all their numbers

837
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,320
from the full season that they, are that everybody knows

838
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,199
who everybody. Is this is it's very much the team

839
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,599
is ninety percent. Decided so, like, yeah, what like what's

840
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:13,440
he doing in these one on ones that are like

841
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,840
overshadowing his full season of? College but, LIKE i JUST

842
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,280
i don't understand that logic. Either all, right, man, okay

843
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,519
so my confidence is shaken. Here who's got? TEN i

844
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,840
don't even? Remember? Now oh uh this is The? Bucks

845
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,960
uh they kept?

846
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: It, congratulations you got it?

847
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Right and, YEAH i say they kept?

848
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: It what do you do?

849
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: Here SO i got to think about are they they

850
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,320
shouldn't be drafting for need but this is posting honest.

851
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,599
Trade so they got like a whole rotation that's new

852
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,159
to the to the. Roster now This Miles turner's still,

853
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,119
there but probably not for a long, time so they

854
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,639
could be in the mix FOR i Guess mara is

855
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,199
definitely the. Highest, yes what si? Guy let's JUST I i,

856
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,960
mean you. Can't i'm Gonna here's What I'm here's What i'm,

857
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,960
Gonna here's What i'm gonna. DO I i Think i've

858
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,440
just now decided THAT i would like for The warriors

859
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,159
to Have burry and get him at. Eleven SO i

860
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,840
am going to, Preemptively, Uh i'm Gonna i'm gonna hedge

861
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,440
SO i don't have. To so Then i'll be really

862
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,559
excited if they do get, him And i'm gonna say

863
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,519
he's going to the bucks here at Ten Berry's.

864
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: Who's, Oh burry's is going to the bucks at? Ten?

865
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Uh you would be? Correct So, okay congratulations and condolences.

866
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,559
Speaker 2: Are still still are still that's still hurt more THAN

867
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:37,880
i thought it.

868
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,039
Speaker 1: Would uh did you are you surprised that they went

869
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,559
with someone who doesn't seem to have the same type

870
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,360
OF i hate the word, upside but the same type

871
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,719
of upside is like or someone with higher up Like

872
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,920
KAMAR i think is, oh his best case outcome might

873
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,320
be higher Or nate A men is good like everyone

874
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,159
he's the mystery. Box, well So.

875
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: Bury's is like you know you're gonna get shooting, Correct

876
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,480
like that's that's what you're getting from ball.

877
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: Pressure and disrupted on defense.

878
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Too, yeah so like maybe he's more of a role

879
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,519
guy would be the knock and he's also twenty uh

880
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,920
so he's a little older than a year older than

881
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,239
the most of The, yeah all those other guys in

882
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,039
that guard chunk were. Nineteen, No i'm not that. SURPRISED i.

883
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,960
THINK i think BECAUSE i, HAVE i Don't mara LIKE I,

884
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:24,880
YEAH i get the, appeal BUT i don't know What

885
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:28,840
i'm just to, me this was the best player available By,

886
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,159
YEAH i think that's maybe Where i'm going to LIKE i,

887
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,280
HAVE i Think Linda borg the age thing is a

888
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,960
question for. Me and and Then marra is, like all, right,

889
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,880
WELL i don't think he's. Clinging maybe he's More. Edie,

890
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,320
Uh edie's, great but like he hasn't been. Healthy that's

891
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,119
another LIKE i don't. KNOW i just. DON'T i. DON'T

892
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,280
i wouldn't take a center. Here so, yeah it makes

893
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,360
sense to me even the YEAH i. Did you're kind

894
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,239
of right, though like who Will we'll be, Wrong like

895
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:56,000
we're talking about upside, forever like a rookie who knows

896
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,719
what he's going to. Become but that would be that

897
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,079
that would be the take than the knock is, That,

898
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,400
oh well he's. Not he's not gonna be a primary

899
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,519
scorer maybe is which IS i guess is.

900
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Fair but when you look at the makeup of their.

901
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Team are you ready to, say beyond a shadow of

902
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,320
a doubt That Ryan rollins Or Tyler hero or A

903
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,760
Jaia hawkas junior isn't part of their long term. Plan

904
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,840
i'm not calling any one of them a, megastar but

905
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,679
you have these guys who can generate shots And hawks

906
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,159
or maybe people don't love the Shots hawkas generates all the,

907
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,519
time but he's his bulldozer on. Drives he's a mid

908
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,280
range he can be a mid range. Assassin why not

909
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,920
just have the guy who could fly around the court

910
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960
on offense and then it's gonna work his butt off on.

911
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,880
DEFENSE i don't, LIKE i don't what do you? Like

912
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400
what do You he's been compared to To Keith Alexander?

913
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,639
Walker LIKE i, SAID i think that does what he

914
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,039
can do on offense that falls, short but of course

915
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:48,440
it's a compliment to his. DEFENSE i JUST i think

916
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,440
he was the best player. Available SO i have just

917
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,239
NO i have no qualms about this. Pick and, it

918
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,800
by the, way if we look back and, say, Oh

919
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,880
Braydon burry's was better than pretty much all the guards

920
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,960
that he wouldn't shock. Me if we go back to,

921
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,599
Oh brainbury's was the best guard or the second best

922
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,920
guard taken in this, CLASS i Mean Darren, Peterson so

923
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
let's say he's. One but when looking at just the

924
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,079
like the cluster Of Keaton, Woggler Michael Brown, Junior Darius Acuff,

925
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:19,119
Junior Kingston, flemings If brainbury's ends up being the best

926
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:20,960
out of, them it wouldn't shock. ME i have two

927
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,639
of those guys ahead of, him but it wouldn't.

928
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,599
Speaker 2: Shock, okay, Yeah and and As i'm looking at it,

929
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:27,800
now because The warriors are, next, LIKE i JUST i

930
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,880
don't even care. Anymore there's like nobody That i'm gonna

931
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,320
feel really. Excited did hold?

932
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,679
Speaker 1: On did they trade the? Pick?

933
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: Mmm you know, What i'm gonna tell you WHAT i hope.

934
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,159
HAPPENED i hope they traded eleven in a package For

935
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,159
Trey murphy the. Third can you please tell me that

936
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:43,440
that's what.

937
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,199
Speaker 1: Happened you were gonna be disappointed they kept the? Pick

938
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,679
would you like they just stab? BACK i JUST i.

939
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Feel like It's lindeborg because they probably wanted someone that

940
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,920
they think is going to contribute, immediately and that feels

941
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:56,960
like what his whole deal.

942
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker 1: Is so you are, correct they took You, borg which

943
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:03,400
by the. WAY i know he's, older but he just

944
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,280
does so much on the court That i'm fine with.

945
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,960
It like it's, okay you're a twenty four and we're

946
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,280
talking about when you're looking at teams like The. Timberwolves

947
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,320
when we get to the. Io the Iod desumer was

948
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,880
Like Julius. Randall stuff they're talking about Like jade McDaniels

949
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,719
And nasriy getting better in year seven or eight or

950
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,719
whatever they're. Entering So i'm not gonna a twenty four

951
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,639
year old. Rookie i'm just knock there, like, yeah he,

952
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,599
might he might just get. BETTER i was if you

953
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,519
also would have predicted there was a this is there's

954
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,039
no way this was, happening but There if you predicted

955
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,840
that there would be a video going around which it

956
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,840
looks Like Joe lacub And Mike dunlevy were arguing about

957
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,719
the pick on camera with him rol of, o'clock you

958
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,920
would be cracked because that was the.

959
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: Rounds, OH i gotta check that out, Now i'm. EXCITED

960
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:49,280
i wonder.

961
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: If there's No the only THING i could picture them

962
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,159
discussing is Doesn't Nate ament seem like such A Joe lacub?

963
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,159
Swing how married he was To kaminga And, wiseman.

964
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: Just because he's just the athletic forward that we don't

965
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,880
know what this.

966
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: IS i don't even know if he's all that watching.

967
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:06,920
HIM i don't know If nata ment was all that.

968
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:08,679
Long yeah, right it's, like.

969
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah the mystery.

970
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: Box oh this could two, timelines this could be he

971
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,840
could be four timelines rolled into one. Player we don't.

972
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, Yeah, NO I i am a little

973
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,519
disappointed About. LINDENBORG i THINK i would have been more

974
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,840
disappointed By, mara who was the other GUY i thought

975
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,639
about mentioning, There SO i have.

976
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: A question, Who, yeah would you not have been disappointed by?

977
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: Nobody? NOBODY I I I that's WHY i was hoping

978
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,840
they traded, it just BECAUSE i don't. Know maybe here's

979
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,840
WHAT i CAN i tell you what's gonna happen when

980
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,679
we're done here tonight Is i'm gonna go watch a

981
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,760
bunch of a bunch Of lindenborg tape And i'm going

982
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,360
to talk myself into. Him it's gonna take maybe four

983
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,039
minutes And i'll start to believe that's what's gonna. Happen,

984
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,159
well right, Now i'm. DISTRAUGHT i Just i'm not.

985
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,159
Speaker 1: EXCITED i think by, VALUE i probably he probably would

986
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:01,800
have been top ten on my there and LOOK i don't.

987
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:03,519
Speaker 2: Think well he went, eleventh so.

988
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,119
Speaker 1: Cool look at that. Value do you know WHAT i?

989
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,119
Compare this is again it's, me so you used to

990
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:10,119
take it with a metric ton of? Salt do you

991
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:12,480
know what my hybrid comp was for?

992
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,079
Speaker 2: Him Kyle Kuzma AND.

993
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,039
Speaker 1: I, said he's what If Aaron gordon was trapped In

994
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:28,320
Michail bridges's? Body, well now you have my, attention so

995
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,199
you go watch more of yaxall and then you get

996
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,280
back to me and the. Kids everyone was, watching and

997
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,519
we would like to know what you think about that

998
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,280
hybrid Comp and it's not even trapped BECAUSE i think

999
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,960
he works well within like the the frame that he,

1000
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,039
has SO i shouldn't say. Trapped but it's what If

1001
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:46,000
Aaron gordon Was Michael. Bridges that's the that's the Comp

1002
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,519
it's a.

1003
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Lot to, digest that's a lot To That's i'm gonna

1004
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,920
have to really stew on that for a.

1005
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Second, Okay well so you think that's Worth he's.

1006
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,519
Speaker 2: Right on STEP i, mean, like have they planned his

1007
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,119
retirement ceremony? Yet just around the corner this guy's so.

1008
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Old so we've got plenty of other stuff to get.

1009
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,519
To BUT i think there's still a few prospects that

1010
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,920
are worth and things that. Happened so let's of the

1011
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
prospects that you're most interested. In where do you think

1012
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,119
who even got a Die? Mara?

1013
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay so let's let me let me pull up

1014
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
the rest of the order. Here SO i, could, oh

1015
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,559
the thunder a right there at, twelve would they have Done,

1016
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:29,320
no they wouldn't have done. It, man that's. INTERESTING i, oh,

1017
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
well If charlotte were to have come away With, mara

1018
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:34,480
that would be. Interesting BUT i don't know if he

1019
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:36,440
fell all the way to, fourteen he did.

1020
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,119
Speaker 1: Not would you like to take? Another guess you Just

1021
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,119
i'll just, well.

1022
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,519
Speaker 2: There's only a. Couple, yeah just tell me it's the

1023
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,760
thunder or the. HEAT i, see we went to the.

1024
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Thunder, okay the thunder Took, mara and so that by the.

1025
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Way so He i've tried to after missing On, donovan

1026
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,440
after missing a little bit on Zach, edie and missing

1027
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,960
even harder On, Ice i've tried to come around on

1028
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:02,000
the guys who move like. That he has watching him

1029
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,079
to me, again he looks like he Has Zach EDI's

1030
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,239
gait where it's just it feels awkward, sometimes but like,

1031
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,320
yeah but the like the passing he Has Isaiah Hartenstein

1032
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,920
like touch around the. BASKET i could even see him

1033
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,239
developing a similar push shot. GAME i don't think he's

1034
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,079
as fluid as of like a ball decision maker As.

1035
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,400
Hartenstein but he's also what Is hartenstein like six ten

1036
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,239
six eleven seven feet and he's seven to. Three this

1037
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,159
guy's absolutely. MASSIVE i did kind of. Wonder All i'm saying,

1038
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,840
is as we record, this The thunder like twenty nine

1039
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,199
million dollars over the second, apron they could clear most

1040
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,400
of that by just. TRUE i don't think they're just

1041
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,800
gonna Decline hartenstein's team. OPTION i think a cap space

1042
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,920
team would just take.

1043
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,039
Speaker 2: Him oh, yeah there he's too. Value you can't they

1044
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,079
there's No this can't mean that The hartenstein is not

1045
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,760
gonna be in the right. Now but hold.

1046
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: ON i viewed. It could this be more of a

1047
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,400
succession plan to where The thunder, Decide, hey we're gonna

1048
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,639
opt you, in but we're not giving you a long

1049
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,880
term deal right, now or we're gonna circle back after this.

1050
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: Season maybe it's it's hard to say that like one

1051
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,320
doesn't affect the, other because it's, like this is a

1052
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,880
PRETTY i thought. THAT i thought the thunder were a

1053
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,440
pretty good bet to trade one of their, picks, right,

1054
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:13,480
like and maybe this one would have gotten you the.

1055
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,719
Most so it's interesting that they a kept it in

1056
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,079
b took a big just because, Yeah hertenstein is so

1057
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:21,280
important to what they. Do but, yeah that's an interesting.

1058
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,320
Option is, like well maybe they can they want him

1059
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,119
for this, year but if maybe things go, sideways they

1060
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,079
can trade him as an expiring and somebody can then.

1061
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:33,440
RESIGN i don't, know it's. Interesting who else is?

1062
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Notable where do you think nata ment? Went?

1063
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:41,039
Speaker 2: Oh, WELL i think there's some real skepticism about him

1064
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:43,880
as a prospect just because of the like what is? He?

1065
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,760
UH i mean what about The bulls at?

1066
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,559
Speaker 1: Fifteen, no that would have been that would have been.

1067
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: Interesting so Then, Charlotte, no Then miami.

1068
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: Still, right that's, True miami does not, pick but you all.

1069
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,119
Speaker 2: Right they traded, it, Oh. Milwaukee then at thirteen he.

1070
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Went thirteen To, milwaukee which For milwaukee to come away With.

1071
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:07,960
Brittin so a lot of PEOPLE i think we're wondering

1072
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,760
in real time where The buck's gonna try and take No.

1073
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Yannie they don't get anyone who AND i have thoughts

1074
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:14,760
on this, whole they didn't get anyone who profiles the

1075
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,199
future superstar in the. Trade would they take a swing

1076
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,280
At nata, MENT i think Getting Brydon burry's who's just

1077
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,880
clearly better right now or more, ready but he doesn't

1078
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,119
have his like mystery box. Appeal but then you also

1079
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:27,639
still go Get nata meant at, thirteen LIKE i. Could

1080
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,880
you had two picks late in the, lottery why not

1081
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:33,079
make one of them just, this Like nata meant the

1082
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,440
type of guy that's either gonna get you a statue

1083
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,039
outside five served.

1084
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: Form or get you.

1085
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Fired, Maybe and so if you take him too, HIGH i,

1086
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,599
Mean and so number thirteen just feels kind of, right

1087
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,920
and the like watching, HIM i don't he he like

1088
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
has shades of so many different, players both good and.

1089
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:49,480
BAD i don't even know what to make of his

1090
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:51,760
of his, Comps and SO i think the hope is

1091
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,360
just that if he's in a more cohesive setting than

1092
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,119
he was At, tennessee like this ends up being. Good

1093
00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:58,840
BUT i HAVE i have my.

1094
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Doubts, OKAY i want to know Where Santa Clara Bronco

1095
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,119
Alan graves. LANDED i hope it's The.

1096
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:11,159
Speaker 1: Spurs he did not go to The, spurs but he

1097
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:15,840
did go in the top. Twenty, okay, hmmm well if It's,

1098
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:17,079
charlotte that's pretty.

1099
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: Interesting Not.

1100
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: Charlotte oh, Really oh this is. FUNNY i didn't do

1101
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:26,519
work On Alan, graves So i'm. Curious, yeah give, me

1102
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:27,199
give me the loader.

1103
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: DOWN i, mean just like a it's like a pretty

1104
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:34,159
sturdy six' nine that can make. Open shots but like

1105
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,679
he's good because he has good feel and is like

1106
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,400
a pretty smart passer and a, good defender but he's

1107
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,360
not going to be like a big.

1108
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,199
Speaker 1: Time scorer he Looks Like jared dudley a. Little bit

1109
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,880
is that one of his? Pro COMS by, I mean.

1110
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,039
Speaker 2: I don't know if He's what dudley's carrying skill was.

1111
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,000
His shooting but, like similarly, LIKE savvy i, would, say

1112
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,960
uh did he go To? The thunder?

1113
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,039
Speaker 1: He Did?

1114
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Not memphis? Then NOPE whom I even toronto at. Nineteen, nineteen,

1115
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,639
okay oh that's Such a, toronto pick just like another

1116
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,760
big six nine okay or. SIX eight i guess depends

1117
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,039
on where.

1118
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: You're looking what what About, my well actually we should go,

1119
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,320
with oh, go ahead.

1120
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Your Guy, Dalen, swain.

1121
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 1: YES who i was hoping at one point weeks ago

1122
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,960
would fall To the nicks at number. Twenty four they

1123
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,039
would have just traded him if. He did grant he

1124
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,480
was picked a little earlier than. Twenty, four, okay, OVERALL.

1125
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,199
Speaker 2: Well i, Keep, Guessing Charlotte so i'll just say, them

1126
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,840
again because you get two cracks at it in the.

1127
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: Top, twenty nope did he go To The, thunder nope

1128
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,719
that would have. Been unfair he went to the bulls afte.

1129
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:50,679
Speaker 2: At fifteen that's gonna be on the high end of

1130
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,559
where he was mocked, almost anywhere, RIGHT.

1131
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: Right i think. There was wash had told me that

1132
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,920
if he was a first, year player he'd be a surefire.

1133
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,559
Lottery pick so if you can get past though he just,

1134
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:05,320
wrapped up was this third season, OR whatever i think

1135
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,800
it's easier to. Him THERE what i will say About,

1136
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,639
THE bulls i loved, their draft which is probably a

1137
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,440
red FLAG because i think the LAST time i loved

1138
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,599
their draft was when They Took patrick williams at. Number

1139
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:17,800
Four h but they do seem With The nick, claxton

1140
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,880
trade and now You Get, caleb wilson who the decision

1141
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,440
was made. For them but still and then you Go After,

1142
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,840
daln Swain modest bruzzellis, Is there maybe They Keep. Leondard

1143
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,280
miller they're just built to be disruptive and switchy and

1144
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,000
just have like this long. Defensive IDENTITY so. I Appreciate

1145
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,559
Obviously bryson graham wasn't There for bruzillis And the. Miller

1146
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:39,519
PICKUPS but i KIND of i see the. VISION board i.

1147
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:44,159
Like it the another, Big Name. Giannis steinbach where do

1148
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:44,400
you think?

1149
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,639
Speaker 2: He, went uh. Let's see oh is that that's kind

1150
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:49,199
of like So.

1151
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: After mara oh, that's right You Like jazz Pod Says noah.

1152
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,239
Sangey too he, got INJURED so i forgot. About him

1153
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,199
he was Compared TO giannis i think coming out of

1154
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,320
the draft at, one point so it, was, YEAH.

1155
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,039
Speaker 2: Well I mean i, Get, OKAY uh i don't know

1156
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,199
how about did he Go. To charlotte charlotte has to

1157
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,039
take a big at.

1158
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:17,159
Speaker 1: Some point. He did he Went to charlotte with their

1159
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,239
he was, their fourteenth like to close. Out, there yeah

1160
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,239
he Went To joanna steinbach Went to charlotte at. NUMBER

1161
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,519
fourteen i don't know how to feel. About, HIM man

1162
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,440
i don't know if he's a, center defensively and that's

1163
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:27,800
what gives.

1164
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,519
Speaker 2: Me, pause, WELL yeah i mean they do Have so,

1165
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,519
Calkbrinner's there he's probably not a starter if you're going

1166
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,159
to really. Do anything And, THEN diabate, i guess a

1167
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
very different Player. Than kulkbrinner BUT also i, feel like

1168
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,280
probably not, a starter even though the number like that's

1169
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,719
when they got good Is when diabate just was their. Starting.

1170
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,880
CENTER right i don't know if that's a, causal relationship

1171
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,039
but that's when things. Kicked, off yeah if he's not,

1172
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:57,360
a CENTER then i don't. Love It can sneinbock? Shoot

1173
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:06,199
too just to read, up now this this blurb doesn't tell. Me, anything,

1174
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,280
No well i've just seen, good hands big guy crashes.

1175
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,519
The glass that's not doing it. For me they already

1176
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:12,119
got the guys that can.

1177
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: Do THAT so i just. DON'T know i don't, understand

1178
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:17,960
necessarily NOT that i. Don't understand i'm curious to see

1179
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,440
what the theory of him is. GONNA be i feel

1180
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719
like you almost draft him with the hope that he

1181
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:26,400
can be a five or, you like, BECAUSE like i

1182
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,920
don't know that Him And mussa Diabacte or kalkbrednan should be.

1183
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,920
PLAYING together i. Just can't maybe you're trying to get

1184
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,280
away with smaller lineups, where oh if We Have miles

1185
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Bridges And brandon miller on, the court it. Comes together

1186
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,159
he's a. Great rebounder.

1187
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,079
Speaker 2: Uh can you tell Me where, Let's see i'm trying

1188
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:44,960
to think who else like really jumps Out as?

1189
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm curious so you asked about my reaction before we.

1190
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:51,039
JUMPED on i thought he was gonna end up going

1191
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:55,000
in the. Second Round but brooklyn with the twenty eighth

1192
00:55:55,079 --> 00:56:00,199
pick they Got, FROM, minnesota Uh Drafted. Joshua JEFFERSON and i,

1193
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,519
Love that okay for that speaks he speaks to me,

1194
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:04,679
About him he's, just wanted like he's cut from, the

1195
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,280
down swaying mold, of, like oh this guy, Could shoot

1196
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,159
like look at the positional malleability of him. On defense

1197
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:14,079
his comp Has Been, kyle ANDERSON which i just starkly.

1198
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,039
DISAGREE with i think the shot is going to, be

1199
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:18,559
BETTER and i also think that. He plays if you

1200
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,599
watch him on, THE ball i don't understand where Necessarily

1201
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:24,079
The kyle. Anderson comps he's so much faster on the

1202
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,360
Ball than KYLE anders i know that's a, low bar but,

1203
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,119
it's yeah he.

1204
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: CLEARS measures i would say, the, lowest right he's Faster Than.

1205
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:37,760
Kyle anderson, all right let's see What, about well let

1206
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,159
me ask, you then was there anything ELSE that i

1207
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:41,800
guess we're at the point in the draft where there's

1208
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,000
not any like anything shocking if we if there'd been a,

1209
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:46,559
big trade you would have told me about it. By

1210
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:48,519
now was there any other picks that you felt like

1211
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:51,639
were way out of step with just the mocks that,

1212
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,559
you'd seen because we've really kind of knocked out the

1213
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:59,559
top twelve to FIFTEEN that i would. Have Assumed, kareem

1214
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,639
lopez this Is someone i've seen mocked in like the top.

1215
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,159
Twelve ish where'd he?

1216
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: End up kareem ended up Going to He's, On memphis

1217
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:11,239
so THIS was I think memphis was a big winner

1218
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:17,440
outside Of Getting, cam boozer just because they traded down,

1219
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,840
five spots so they went from number sixteen to twenty

1220
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,280
one and two separate trades and accumulated five second round

1221
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,199
picks in. The process and then we're able To Get,

1222
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,960
kareem lopez WHO he's i don't know what he's gonna,

1223
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,679
be defensively but based off What little i've seen, of

1224
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Him The franz wagner but with a, jump shot comparisons like.

1225
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Aren't bad he has someone like the shoulder Stuff that franz.

1226
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,119
Can DO so i thought that was a nice pickup.

1227
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:43,639
By them but to also the asset management of getting

1228
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,239
like five second rounders in the process was a. BIG

1229
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,679
deal i also so after Listening To david Lee And

1230
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,880
samson folk Talk About, BENNETT sturtz i didn't know like

1231
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,840
a ton, about him and THEN all i saw was

1232
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,519
he's like he's he's six' two in a quarter or whatever.

1233
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:06,679
HE'S listed at i, came, away, just oh, No, like

1234
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,679
smitten like is this Gonna Be A Landry shamick column

1235
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:14,440
gillespie cross type? Of, PLAYER'S fee yeah i mean that

1236
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,280
would be that would Be an incredible like. That's a

1237
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,920
starter probably Repose. To it memphis he Went with, the

1238
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,239
Memphis pick but. Okase, acquired him ooh that's so another

1239
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:29,559
just guard that's a little gritty but. Not, super huge

1240
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,280
okay went after, who'd have, thought hm.

1241
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,199
Speaker 2: Hmm market inefficiency everybody's out. On small guards then the thunder. Hop, In,

1242
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,960
THERE interesting okay.

1243
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: I thought the spurs had a, nice draft too so

1244
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:43,519
they picked up with the pick that They got from

1245
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,360
atlanta to fill Out The de. Jonta murray Trade They

1246
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:49,880
drafted JAYDEN quainton's who i know a lot of people

1247
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,320
are just kind, of split on but i'd seen him

1248
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,960
mocked like like some people had them firmly in the

1249
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:59,239
top ten on, their big board and they're just like

1250
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,920
this guy who's and can defend and make like some reads.

1251
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,480
Off the catch he's BEEN compared to i. Can't even

1252
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:11,480
remember I've Probably seen jared vanderbilt thrown. AROUND out there

1253
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:14,480
i don't think he's as, hopeless on offense but putting

1254
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,559
Him in THE spurs system i think. Will be interesting

1255
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:19,760
they ALSO got though i don't know if they traded

1256
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,440
Directly with the knicks or if they got It. From,

1257
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,559
the no no they Got. It From denver so denver

1258
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:29,000
traded the number twenty six Pick and The Spurs took

1259
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,519
Tarris Reid, OR tauris reid i don't know how, You.

1260
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:35,800
Pronounce it junior and so that's another like bigger guy

1261
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,039
to get. In their system and we talked a lot

1262
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,920
about they need different types of functional depth in. The,

1263
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,159
FRONT court now i don't think that a lot of

1264
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:46,760
people had read going in. The second round he's not

1265
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:49,320
super huge for someone who's classified. As the center he

1266
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,760
stands under. Six foot ten but if you're going to

1267
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,079
compare Someone To just Isaiah Hartenstein, and dayron sharp you,

1268
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:57,679
have my attention especially if they're Going.

1269
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:00,559
Speaker 2: To, the SPURS yeah and i Think Would jes the

1270
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:03,119
spurs at this point are in benefit of the doubt

1271
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,480
doubt territory with, their draft analysis just given the sixth

1272
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:09,320
not obviously they're they they they got. The easy Ones

1273
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,199
But like carter bryant like that that's working out like

1274
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,480
they it seems like we should we should put a

1275
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,119
little faith in what they can do from. An evaluation

1276
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,480
standpoint i'm.

1277
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: Trying to see if anything else. Stood out here uh

1278
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,800
oh in the Chats, From. Prepah CoA pete can i

1279
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,119
look at?

1280
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: THE chats now i can look at. The, chats now

1281
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,519
yeah he.

1282
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: ENDED up falling i don't think that he's just gonna

1283
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,000
have the like the the offensive tools AND that's or,

1284
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,000
i should say like the shooting necessary to be like a.

1285
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:42,039
High impact player he has drawn comparisons to A Bunch

1286
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,440
of swiss army, knife type guys whether it's A Like a.

1287
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:49,039
FATTEUS young type i He slipped to where? Did he

1288
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:50,639
go i'm not looking at the, board right now but

1289
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,519
he came off the, board at thirty so He went to.

1290
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:59,079
Dallas at thirty. That's actually wild So just between. DALLAS

1291
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:01,599
ends up I Don't CoA. Pete morris Johnson they. Have

1292
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:05,599
cooper flag there's they've cornered the market on just like. These,

1293
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:10,280
forward types also do you know? What was funny and

1294
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,679
this is in the Chattoo from the you? Like jazz pod?

1295
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:18,639
Uh lebron five how do you pronounce this? Is, LeBaron

1296
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,079
pylon oh? Pete got? Traded did he why isn't that listed?

1297
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:27,400
On my thing have to. Look that up but he went,

1298
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,639
To the sixers so You don't. Have jared McCain but

1299
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,559
but you have an? EXP pronounce it i think.

1300
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:38,039
Speaker 2: It's you're asking i've only. EVER read it i certainly

1301
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:39,480
Haven't watched. An alabama Game?

1302
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:44,079
Speaker 1: Uh he pete oh, Was the son? So that's right.

1303
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:45,480
This is okay the sun Is traded from this is

1304
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:47,159
what happens when you hop on before the first. Round

1305
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:50,880
is over so they he that's Interesting, by the. Sons

1306
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,519
that's interesting that's. Another that fits that fits like the

1307
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:59,519
model of how they. Played last year we're JUST like

1308
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:02,239
these i don't want to say, tryhards feels.

1309
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: Pejora that's not that's. Not a pejorative try hard.

1310
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,519
Speaker 1: Is A positive so i don't know what he's gonna do,

1311
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,559
Offensively for them but That's, another just oh this dude

1312
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:12,360
is gonna get on the court and You're gonna FEEL

1313
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,480
but THAT'S i don't i like the spirit. Of the

1314
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,920
pick i'm just curious as to. DO they have i

1315
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,360
guess between the table setters They have In, gillespie and booker.

1316
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,760
That should help but he. LIKE doesn't like i think

1317
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,159
people are lower on his jump shot than like basically anyone, who's, Standing.

1318
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: Bigger bulkier. Ryan Dunn. Type oh man.

1319
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,119
Speaker 1: One of the i'm looking now one of the ringer

1320
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:42,199
cops For Him. Is Brandon, bass oh no nobody.

1321
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,719
Speaker 2: Wants twelve foot baseline, jumpers all day Look.

1322
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Out oh man but, Thirty pick whatever so that was

1323
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,760
there WAS nothing seemed i think you Could argue co

1324
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,440
opete was the BIGGEST slider and i saw him just

1325
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,400
like in the twenties on. People's BIG boards so i

1326
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,559
don't find that as just him going to thirty. AS some,

1327
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,360
shock i mean really.

1328
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:10,639
Speaker 2: LIKE the consensus i don't there was not a surprise in, the,

1329
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:13,119
TOP ten, right I mean so i was.

1330
01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:16,679
Speaker 1: Going. Through It uh in wasserman's final Mock, at bleacher

1331
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:19,760
report he got the first, seven picks right and then

1332
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,119
thirteen of the fourteen players he mocked in the lottery went. In,

1333
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,800
THE lottery yeah, i, THINK chalk yeah i think, it's yeah.

1334
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,239
Speaker 2: RIGHT it was i mean the TOP four, were i

1335
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,679
mean like easy to say now, that it happened but

1336
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:35,840
it was like that seemed locked in for like the

1337
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,159
last couple months me.

1338
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: On social media.

1339
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: That just seemed like that. Was a given, and then

1340
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,199
yeah five was where. It got interesting but even then,

1341
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,440
it felt, like you know it was only going to

1342
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,159
be one of. A couple. Players it didn't this did

1343
01:03:53,239 --> 01:03:54,679
not feel like a draft where there were going to

1344
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:58,159
be big leaps up up the board or. Or big

1345
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:00,679
slippage maybe there's just a lot of. GROUP thing happening,

1346
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:00,960
i don't.

1347
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: KNOW was there I feel like i didn't ask your

1348
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,840
opinion of this enough as we were going to wrap

1349
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,480
this up Before. Getting into giannis was there any going

1350
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:10,320
through a picks that you would just especially it didn't

1351
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,440
seem like anything, was overly shocking But was there you

1352
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:15,159
look at a player team right now, and, you're saying

1353
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,920
hey like this. Is, GREAT.

1354
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: Man WELL i Think i think Mara to the thunder.

1355
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,679
FELT like, ONE i well i didn't think he. WOULD

1356
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:28,320
be there i thought he would go in. THE top

1357
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,840
ten i don't know if it's it's more like that's

1358
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,440
the one that has like. HAS my attention i feel, Like,

1359
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,880
most like Oh that's because i'm just, thinking, of like

1360
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,639
well what does that mean for what they're? Going to do? Other?

1361
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:46,320
Than that yeah who Did who Did dallas? Took burry's

1362
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,679
right is THAT or? Did, i already?

1363
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: No they did they Took More as johnson burr's.

1364
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,719
Speaker 2: Went that one that one SURPRISED me because i was

1365
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,199
not a privy to the like momentum that he. SEEMED

1366
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,719
to have i would have Rather probably. Had burris there but. That's,

1367
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,280
who knows, Yeah pretty true i'd say it. Was my.

1368
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,119
Speaker 1: Takeaway it's Interested so the nicks trading cash Considerations to

1369
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,360
the lakers with the number twenty four pick for the number,

1370
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,800
twenty five pick While they Selected. Sergio de lorera YOU

1371
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,480
should have i. Can't pronounce it you Should Have heard

1372
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:19,239
adam silver put like some real, English, on it, oh,

1373
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,159
real time yeah.

1374
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Rolling.

1375
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,079
Speaker 1: Those ours yeah so they traded him at number twenty

1376
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,599
Five To the dallas mavericks for number thirty and two.

1377
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:30,320
Second round picks Then They, traded CoA pete so that

1378
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,599
was the. NUMBER thirty pick i DON'T know how. I

1379
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:35,519
Missed That the phoenix suns for three second. Rounders and

1380
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:38,000
cash so they moved out of the first round to

1381
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:42,039
pick up five second round picks and cash they Got

1382
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:46,400
out of they got out of the three million dollars

1383
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,039
or so cap pull that was there a number twenty

1384
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:49,880
maybe three point four million is what they would have

1385
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,400
made on the rookie scale while. Getting Some cash i'm i'm.

1386
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,239
Not gonna lie there's Reporting Now from Ian Begley that

1387
01:05:56,599 --> 01:05:59,119
mitchell robinson Might Like what's ian bagley said Something. About the,

1388
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:02,000
knicks i'm, like Oh Yeah if james, Dolan says. It

1389
01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:06,760
I'm skeptical but, Bailey says. It i'm listening they, seem

1390
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:11,960
they honestly they seem legitimately like they're gonna try and avoid,

1391
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,039
the SECOND APRON which i i personally find. A little

1392
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:19,360
wild i understand everyone could point it out in the

1393
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,360
comments like they did when we went through our. KNIXT look,

1394
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,760
AHEAD i understand, I promise you i understand the team

1395
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,880
being restrictions of the second apron for a year. WITH

1396
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:29,440
this core i don't understand why you wouldn't. Deal with

1397
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:31,920
it but that's just if it's if It's All about

1398
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,960
mitchell robinson and what, he's Gonna cause maybe i'll look

1399
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,280
back at this and say that was. The right.

1400
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: DECISION let's see I want to i wanna before we,

1401
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,320
LEAVE the draft pdp does ask a relevant question anybody

1402
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,639
who is still on the board. That surprised you i'm

1403
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:46,159
sure this isn't, directed to me BECAUSE what.

1404
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:46,679
Speaker 1: Do i know.

1405
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm, trying, to, THINK like yeah i guess? That do

1406
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,079
you is There anybody that's i'm trying to see like

1407
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,000
Mocked in the Where did the? Stanford? Kid, Go? Uh

1408
01:06:57,039 --> 01:06:59,840
oh cory did he? Go? Get? Drafted yet uh?

1409
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,159
Speaker 1: He did?

1410
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Not did he that would be a. Surprise to me

1411
01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:05,039
he talk about. A small guard he's listed at, six

1412
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:07,079
To one but i've. Seen him mocked i'm looking at

1413
01:07:07,079 --> 01:07:11,039
one now where. He's mocked eighteenth uh so maybe that

1414
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:12,960
would that's THE best ANSWER i gut.

1415
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: I was he, did get drafted but this player. DIDN'T

1416
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,760
get drafted I was surprised cameron car dropped all the way.

1417
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,039
TO twenty five i thought someone with his uh like

1418
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,719
shooting would have gotten. Drafted A higher malik thomas still

1419
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,159
being on The Board and boba miller those seemed like

1420
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:28,760
two guys that could have went in the. First round

1421
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,000
two there was just maybe there were so much guards

1422
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:34,480
at some point maybe Makes Sense that elie thomas so that.

1423
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: You reminded me it's a weird time because everybody seems

1424
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,440
to agree that this in Spite of the brunson thing that,

1425
01:07:42,599 --> 01:07:45,880
like small guards that's that's a position and positional type that's.

1426
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,599
Just dying out, and it's like what are there nine

1427
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:51,159
of them in the first, round so far and you

1428
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:53,239
know half of them are in. The, Top ten uh.

1429
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,000
IT'S we'll see i guess this will be an interesting WERE.

1430
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: Not and a COREY went to okac had ended up

1431
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:04,639
having the pick Right traded to Detroit or did detroit

1432
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,079
ended Up taking No corey's on these TRADES Are confusing

1433
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:10,719
a cordy. To get drafted he got drafted in. The

1434
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,520
top twenty he ended up. On, the pistons okay.

1435
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,159
Speaker 2: Did?

1436
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: YOU like him i don't know. Enough about him it's.

1437
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: Just the name IT'S the name, i kept seeing certainly

1438
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,920
as a FIRST rounder that i that. We didn't discuss so,

1439
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,159
he DID go BUT i after i guess, after maybe

1440
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,800
uh he actually went pretty close. To, the, lottery yeah

1441
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,279
okay we just didn't get to him in our in,

1442
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,359
our guessing game.

1443
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,159
Speaker 1: My boomer brush prospect. On the board to actually, ANSWER

1444
01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:42,000
the question I guarantee you i probably have him hired

1445
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,319
on my board than like ninety nine. Percent of people

1446
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:47,520
i'm Very Interested in Trayvon.

1447
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,399
Speaker 2: BRAZIL from artay, I tell you i, love that. Name

1448
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,279
great name.

1449
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,359
Speaker 1: He's just he's a jetpack floor spacer man and he

1450
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,079
has some injuries in the rearview and. He's super undisciplined

1451
01:08:59,159 --> 01:09:01,840
but if you gonna be able to space the floor

1452
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:07,039
and make like, BLOCK some shots i think that anyone

1453
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:08,880
who's taking them in the second round especially and? Do

1454
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,800
the knicks what? Is there said they still did they

1455
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,840
even they still have. Number Thirty one so i'm looking

1456
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,279
At You. In new york you want To Play? Replace

1457
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,800
mitchell robinson why Don't You? Find mitchell robinson but with.

1458
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,119
A jump shot i wasn't gonna compare, him To that

1459
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:24,079
But trayvon, Jump, all.

1460
01:09:24,079 --> 01:09:28,079
Speaker 2: Right well yay. YOU know what. I enjoyed it I

1461
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:31,079
feel like i was As successful as i've been in,

1462
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:34,079
any OTHER year which i don't know if, that's saying

1463
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:37,119
much but a pretty pretty easy draft to come, into

1464
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:39,439
cold though, as we discussed you want to get to some,

1465
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,800
Non draft, news uh? Yeah, what happened nothing just just

1466
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,720
to the end to the longest. Ongoing trade saga uh,

1467
01:09:49,159 --> 01:09:52,760
that ultimately concluded like sort of how in the least

1468
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Surprising way with giannis Going? To the heat do you

1469
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:58,640
do you want me to read off the actual? Trade

1470
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,119
package here Just for, any, i'm sure.

1471
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:03,159
Speaker 1: Yeah hit us hit us. With the Details so The bucks.

1472
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,199
Speaker 2: Trade Giannis and bobby Portis To. The Miami heat the

1473
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:10,399
bucks basically get back everything they, realistically could have WHICH

1474
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,600
kind of i had some, doubts about whether like will

1475
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,680
there be better offers if they wait, Till the summer

1476
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,640
like should they have done this? At the deadline certainly

1477
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,520
should have done it, a year Ago But didn't the

1478
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,640
Bucks Get, back Tyler Hero Jimahawk is Junior khalil where

1479
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,720
caspers yacucionis number thirteen pick a twenty thirty first ROUND

1480
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,720
swap twenty.

1481
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: A number thirteen pick, Has.

1482
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: A name grant i already forgot, WHO it is a

1483
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,159
twenty thirty ONE first unprotected a twenty thirty THREE first

1484
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:46,199
unprotected a twenty, thirty three Second and the bucks generate

1485
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,720
a pretty big trade exception twenty five point. Four million

1486
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,439
Dollars so hero hawk is where yacucionis three firsts if

1487
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,960
you count thirteen a swap. And, a second like my

1488
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:01,800
main takeaway, from the is, all things considered, given the

1489
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,960
circumstances that's a pretty good Return. FOR the bucks I think.

1490
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,399
THAT'S i got i. Can't knock it it would have

1491
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,319
been nice if there, were more bidders if this. Had

1492
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,079
happened earlier we've been over that. A million times. THE

1493
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:17,039
deal's done i think you got to feel pretty good

1494
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:19,359
about This from. The bucks side would you agree with

1495
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,800
that as like, a threshold issue? Like, PRETTY solid.

1496
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah i just under the you could you have to

1497
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,239
evaluate it independently of did they? Wait too long because the, answer,

1498
01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:31,520
is yes yeah we're to get what they did after.

1499
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,279
Waiting too long and, BY the way i think what

1500
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:37,439
you could also POINT out is i now it's tough

1501
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,239
being they got more than they would have gotten at,

1502
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:41,479
the trade deadline and you could Talk about what, yan's

1503
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,199
was INJURED but you i think the big variable here

1504
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,560
is they made a bet that a team would emerge

1505
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,359
out of the woodwork that could at least be used

1506
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:51,159
as a stalking Horse For. The miami heat that team

1507
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:55,560
Emerged In the boston Celtics With the, jaylen brown package

1508
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,119
and so that kind Of forced the heat's hands and

1509
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:01,199
so the one. Not THE one but i saw a

1510
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:05,560
lot of criticism, over THE PACKAGE and i i think

1511
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,319
that we overestimate how often there's a trade made and

1512
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,119
we look back and say they got. A future superstar

1513
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:17,680
you look at the you Look At the donovan. Mitchell

1514
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:21,720
trade package nobody Was talking about larry markin it Is

1515
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,279
A future ALL star. R nba candidate he was all.

1516
01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:26,960
About the picks you Look At The shay gilgis alexander,

1517
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:29,800
trade to ok see that was about the picks MORE.

1518
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,319
So than sga he was anyone picking that he would

1519
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:37,600
develop into A. Two time mvp no in the room

1520
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,439
like so it's just, To, say THAT no do I

1521
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,079
Think that tyler hero Has Been. An ALL star do

1522
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:45,760
i think that he has another level? TO get to

1523
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,800
i mean. Maybe PROBABLY not do I think that cass

1524
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:48,760
is gonna?

1525
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: Be?

1526
01:12:49,119 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: A MEGASTAR no do i Think That? About hakkas no

1527
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:55,880
but like that's like that. Doesn't typically happen it's very

1528
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,680
rare that we Look, Back like luka dodgers didn't even

1529
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,520
net that.

1530
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:05,119
Speaker 2: Type, OF player okay i. Know, you're right also like

1531
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:08,960
the pack There wasn't the bucks did not, Have that

1532
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:12,039
opportunity so like it doesn't if your knock on this

1533
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:14,720
trade is that there's no superstar potential, Superstar in it

1534
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,920
like show me the one where there, where there was

1535
01:13:17,239 --> 01:13:19,199
like that we just have to deal with like what the.

1536
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:23,079
Offers ACTUALLY were Like I guess jalen brown, counts as

1537
01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:25,159
that but like that just didn't seem like it. Was

1538
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:29,239
GONNA happen so. I Don't know i i'm actually surprised

1539
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:31,760
that you ran into Criticism of the bucks.

1540
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,159
Speaker 1: Side OF this.

1541
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: GRANTED i wasn't i was deliberately not that online today,

1542
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,239
even FOR ME but i i thought it was like pretty.

1543
01:13:39,399 --> 01:13:41,479
ROUNDLY agreed to i guess this is, just proof that,

1544
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,800
Like you know twitter will show you, whatever you know

1545
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,720
it will it has. An amplification problem it will make

1546
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,680
it seem like there are more critics of something than.

1547
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,359
There actually are it felt to, ME like, everybody I guess,

1548
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:55,840
should i say EVERYBODY whose opinion I respect or i

1549
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,640
believe should, be listened to, was pretty, unified and Like,

1550
01:14:00,199 --> 01:14:03,079
Good job bucks like, that's you know good job on

1551
01:14:03,319 --> 01:14:06,960
on this return in, these circumstances today forgetting everything you

1552
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,319
know that you could have done had. You moved sooner

1553
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,159
like that seemed, like a total like across the board,

1554
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:14,199
Agreement to. Me, i'm surprised.

1555
01:14:15,279 --> 01:14:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah it Was just the bucks are not going to

1556
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:18,720
be in. A great SPOT is just i think what

1557
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,000
a lot. Of PEOPLE feel and.

1558
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: I when you, trade a general a generational, CHRIST.

1559
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,039
Speaker 1: Like this i think what they've at least. Done is

1560
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:29,920
okay they have a bunch. Of Interesting Play maybe tyler

1561
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,279
hero met you another first round pick if you look

1562
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:35,479
at moving him the other like can we say like,

1563
01:14:36,319 --> 01:14:38,239
ALSO khalil ware i tend to be lower on khalil

1564
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,319
Whare than most But that's another like they got legitimate

1565
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:42,760
if you tried to look at this in terms of,

1566
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,439
first round value they so, in actual picks they got

1567
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,720
three first round picks, in a swap right if you,

1568
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,640
include the players like are we talking? About, ANOTHER three

1569
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,119
well i just was.

1570
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: Thinking as we were going through some of, the, draft stuff,

1571
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,680
Like oh yeah rollins. IS still, Here I mean miles turner,

1572
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,439
had A year but i still Kind Of. Like myles

1573
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,760
turner so It's Like, Oh Ron's turner hero hawkes, where

1574
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,680
you like there's a rotation emerging here, in My mind Like.

1575
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,399
Speaker 1: I've, Brain burry's brain.

1576
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: Burry's gonna space they're at least, Interesting TO me, like,

1577
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,199
i think yeah you like Jess as like Hero, and,

1578
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:19,079
aj green.

1579
01:15:19,399 --> 01:15:22,239
Speaker 1: Uh you know like like they're shooting.

1580
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:24,079
Speaker 2: On this team this, Team AT shooting like i don't

1581
01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:27,920
know that, defensively WE'LL SEE but i, I don't, KNOW i.

1582
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,399
Don't i don't i'm at least interested In what the bucks.

1583
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,119
Might look like and maybe that's just because they're finally

1584
01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:35,960
different and so that's. Part of it, but but Yeah.

1585
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,359
Speaker 1: Finally, over but yeah BUT what BUT i would i,

1586
01:15:38,399 --> 01:15:40,720
will also say Is not they so they got not

1587
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,359
only they, get off portous but they didn't have to

1588
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:44,479
Take back the, jovich deal sure.

1589
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,239
Speaker 2: Which is just, awful right now, by the way so bad.

1590
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,079
Speaker 1: Be out here getting four years and million dollars if

1591
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:54,600
you're starting for a Playoff. Team, in yovic yeah? What

1592
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,119
was it four and? Sixty or?

1593
01:15:56,119 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 2: Whatever too much the only not.

1594
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,159
Speaker 1: The ONLY thing but i have two. Questions for you

1595
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,920
but if on, the criticism side would you have preferred

1596
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,840
this package that they Accepted Or the jaalen brown plus

1597
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,600
two first Round picks that boston. Was apparently offering knowing

1598
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,319
that one of those first round picks was probably number

1599
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:14,960
twenty seven in, THIS year's draft.

1600
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: I think yeah and they got rid Of? Portis that's

1601
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,800
yeah that's the other something to. THINK about there I

1602
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,479
didn't know i was it, definitely two firsts but one

1603
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,239
Of THEM was sorry i was reading the comment one

1604
01:16:27,279 --> 01:16:29,319
of them was going to be A shitty first is that? What,

1605
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:30,000
you're saying.

1606
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah one of, Them Was good like i'm assuming one

1607
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,279
of them was this year's or, next year's first which is.

1608
01:16:37,279 --> 01:16:39,239
Gonna be bad i'm assuming at least one of them

1609
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:41,520
had to be an out year based off how close

1610
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,680
it Seemed like the bucks were. To TAKING it BUT

1611
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,039
i think I like the.

1612
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: MIAMI package better i.

1613
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: Guess YOU do you i know, Why that's right because

1614
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,720
if you want to sit, here, and say well they could,

1615
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,760
have just reflipped because now If You, have jalen brown

1616
01:16:55,159 --> 01:16:58,600
he's expensive and you're beholden to win with not having

1617
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,720
a whole, Lot around him you're not get a supporting

1618
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,239
cast that. You just got if you could Have Re

1619
01:17:03,399 --> 01:17:07,600
routed jalen brown for, all these picks it would have

1620
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,239
been Folded into the giannis trade itself and probably have

1621
01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:13,199
been done unless there was The Reporting from jake Fisher

1622
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:16,039
That said jimmy haslm didn't want To Deal with jalen

1623
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:18,680
brown possibly requesting the trade until he. Pushed this through

1624
01:17:19,039 --> 01:17:22,199
he's also the one that kind of set the arbitrary

1625
01:17:22,319 --> 01:17:25,800
but realistic by. The draft deadline so your argument either

1626
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,960
needs to be that it needs to be if you don't,

1627
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:31,720
like this package what? Was the alternative and then the

1628
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,039
argument needs To Be that jalen brown and two first

1629
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:36,199
round picks could have turned into, more than this And

1630
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:39,600
that the bucks decided to say, yes or okay this.

1631
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,279
Deal too early i'm not willing to buy any of that.

1632
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:48,000
Like this was there's value, in having clarity especially when

1633
01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:50,399
the package is even if you don't think, this is

1634
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,159
great it's. A real package it is a real package.

1635
01:17:54,199 --> 01:17:57,359
Under THE circumstances so i personally believe that if you

1636
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,760
Were Gonna trade jaalen brown for four first, round picks

1637
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:02,960
something that then you would have. Just done that there

1638
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,119
would have been that deal would have been.

1639
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 2: SET up already, i think too, like you know you

1640
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,920
have to sort of couch this with the admission that

1641
01:18:11,079 --> 01:18:13,520
we're not sure what draft picks. Are WORTH anymore but

1642
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,560
i still think this is again it's old, logic because

1643
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,520
oh they're going, To BE terrible but i would Rather

1644
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,119
short the heat's Future than the celtics future if you're

1645
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,079
just Talking the picks i'm, going to get especially if

1646
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:27,840
one of those picks is A fairly, Immediate celtics pick

1647
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,600
like maybe this is a good segue to talk About

1648
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,560
like the heat's roster is like, pretty threadbare now, like

1649
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,600
THEY well but i like the downside in these out

1650
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,319
years are are, POTENTIALLY very bleak I. Think in miami

1651
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,039
so that so if you're giving me picks From either

1652
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:46,720
the Celtics, OR the heat i would Rather have. Those

1653
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,199
heat picks i'm.

1654
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: Probably with you there's also just more, of them too

1655
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,840
have The right? Before heat picks.

1656
01:18:55,359 --> 01:18:55,399
Speaker 2: What?

1657
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: Do you expect what would you do With hero but

1658
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,640
there's Been rumors about. Detroit being interested maybe YOU could

1659
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,159
get i don't know if you're getting. A first round

1660
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:07,039
like the package that was being Thrown Out, Was Duncan

1661
01:19:07,119 --> 01:19:10,640
robinson isaiah stewart in A first, and i'm like sure

1662
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,319
even if that was like the first, And tonight's, DRAFT

1663
01:19:13,399 --> 01:19:14,680
hell yeah i don't.

1664
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,399
Speaker 2: Think any part of this return, is, is like oh

1665
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,600
we view this as a as a, for sure, keeper

1666
01:19:21,119 --> 01:19:24,079
you know heroes the biggest name in the group and makes. The,

1667
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:25,000
Most Money.

1668
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: Honestly nate ament might be the closest they come to.

1669
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: Having the, KEEPER i'm, not i mean but here is,

1670
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,640
a solid place, like you know he is, what, He

1671
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,119
is like you're not building an. Offense around him he's

1672
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,399
his absolute optimal role is as like a six man

1673
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,479
that just scores like he's, He can start he's been.

1674
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,039
An all, star like, SURE but yeah i take a

1675
01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:46,760
first and split that contract up into two PEOPLE with. If. I,

1676
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,000
could yeah.

1677
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: Now the THE other question i have for you is

1678
01:19:51,039 --> 01:19:55,000
would you Take Offers? On, ryan rollins now he only

1679
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:56,960
has one guarantee a year left, on his deal but,

1680
01:19:57,039 --> 01:19:59,520
he is, younger he's good but he's not gonna be

1681
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,000
making formal. MILLION bucks forever i understand the way that

1682
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:04,920
the new, lottery system works and they don't have their.

1683
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,640
Own Picks ANYWAY but i'm, i, DON'T know man i

1684
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,920
think you can maybe get like two first round. Picks

1685
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,760
For him maybe. I'M overrating him i mean that two.

1686
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 2: Would be two would be a great. RETURN for him I.

1687
01:20:16,319 --> 01:20:18,479
Really like, ROWLINS but yeah i think the bucks should

1688
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,840
just definitely be and we will flip literally anybody for

1689
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,199
more lottery tickets. Or or, whatever Just yeah in rollins

1690
01:20:27,279 --> 01:20:28,800
is kind of a different case because you might just

1691
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,600
Want to keep rawlins around if you thought you're going to,

1692
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,319
be halfway, decent which again this is. A new thing

1693
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,319
being halfway decent is like a is not the worst thing,

1694
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:37,600
to be anymore and.

1695
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,119
Speaker 1: Especially when your draft position isn't even beholden to how

1696
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:42,880
decent you are, at this point it's all about how

1697
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:43,960
decent the heat are.

1698
01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:47,399
Speaker 2: Or, aren't exactly uh let's talk about the heat side, of,

1699
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:52,000
It though right and they they, got you HONEST now?

1700
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:55,600
What i mean, you gotta you you gotta. HOPE you, can,

1701
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,439
i guess Well you want wiggans to decline it with

1702
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,119
the decline as thirty minute dollars player option and bring

1703
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,119
him back on a three year deal that pays him

1704
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:05,319
less than, thirty, A, year right like that's got to

1705
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:07,920
be one of your first. Orders of business you hope

1706
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,359
You can, BRING powell back i think because his shooting

1707
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:12,880
will really matter on a team that is suddenly. Very

1708
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,720
shooting starved Unless you think bam has yet another level

1709
01:21:16,199 --> 01:21:19,199
to go as a as a volume guy and as

1710
01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:23,079
an accuracy Guy From deep davion mitchell, Is Still there

1711
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,159
pella larson's role, just Got huge which, i'm not against

1712
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,199
but depth is a, massive issue here and you must.

1713
01:21:30,279 --> 01:21:33,439
Factor in that giannis is not going to, PLAY seventy

1714
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,319
games i think is. The OTHER THING so, i, i

1715
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,920
get well do you want to? Talk about that there's

1716
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,520
a lot of angles to talk. ABOUT with, he i

1717
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,239
mean that's that's, the obvious? Part is there just you

1718
01:21:44,319 --> 01:21:45,640
gotta find some bodies.

1719
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Now you need, to find shooting and you had just,

1720
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,119
bodies in general and the fact THAT you're, just i

1721
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:53,319
mean you can trade A swap Or i guess techley

1722
01:21:53,319 --> 01:21:55,760
you could trade a conditional twenty twenty NINE pick, IF

1723
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,520
i mean i assume the twenty twenty Seven pick to

1724
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,079
charlotte now feels more, likely, to convey right since you. Have, be,

1725
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:03,359
honest yeah yes you've.

1726
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:05,319
Speaker 2: GOT to hope i think above a lot of other

1727
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:10,119
things that. This now attracts your money goes farther on

1728
01:22:10,199 --> 01:22:12,319
a minimum deal than most other. Teams money goes so

1729
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,840
you're gonna get guys that might be like tax mid

1730
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,199
level that signed for the minimum, or, you know right

1731
01:22:17,279 --> 01:22:19,560
like that has to be one of the sort of

1732
01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:21,800
offshoots of this deal.

1733
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: Because there even You mentioned. The wigan stuff so as,

1734
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,600
we're recording this they're about a round up eleven million

1735
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,039
dollars beneath, the first apron which they're now hard capped

1736
01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:32,279
at because they took back more. Money into trade You're

1737
01:22:32,399 --> 01:22:36,000
Not like andrew wiggins could take twenty million, dollars a

1738
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:38,119
year and that's probably not that's not gonna give you

1739
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:41,039
the flexibility really to fill out your Roster And. Resign

1740
01:22:41,079 --> 01:22:44,560
norman Powell Seems like norman powell's gone based off.

1741
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: All, THE reporting, YEAH i, MEAN i look i This

1742
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,600
is why i'm not high On this for. Miami AT

1743
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,399
all like i understand if You, CAN get, Yannis i

1744
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,800
well i'm, Gonna, say this yeah books Are Not, getting

1745
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,439
trey murphy Who there's no i'll turn in all those picks.

1746
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,399
They JUST got maybe i.

1747
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Might, do it.

1748
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,239
Speaker 2: Well let. Me ask you I'VE telegraphed, what i think

1749
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,680
just in broad strokes of how much sense This makes

1750
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,560
from miami side And from. The honest's side, to be

1751
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,479
honest do you agree that like this isn't a good

1752
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,159
spot for him if he's trying to Win a championship

1753
01:23:22,319 --> 01:23:24,960
and this actually isn't the type of move that You

1754
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:27,039
that the heat seem to think it is given all the.

1755
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:29,680
COMPLICATIONS they, FACED i.

1756
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Mean i feel like this is A move that heat

1757
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,039
had to make if they weren't gonna hit whatever a

1758
01:23:37,119 --> 01:23:40,720
reset looks like in the. New lottery system.

1759
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 2: But it Is it Though i'm not I'm asking as

1760
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,800
i'm NOT sure cause i, Get it right like you can,

1761
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,479
get y honest you should, get y honest Especially for

1762
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,399
the heater just like always just star hungry and have

1763
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,119
kind of not really delivered on that. For Several Years, it's,

1764
01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:04,520
jimmy butler, really but like is it the worst thing

1765
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,640
in the world to go forward with this core and

1766
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,239
add the number thirteen pick and keep your other picks

1767
01:24:09,279 --> 01:24:12,279
around and like maybe you win forty whatever games again and,

1768
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,840
you so honestly if it's a real, question to me.

1769
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 1: They were never. Gonna do this but the move was To.

1770
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,119
Trade vam adebayo that was that was the if you

1771
01:24:21,159 --> 01:24:24,760
Weren't gonna get yannis for what amounts to A pittance.

1772
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,600
In gianni's terms and, by the way that's something that's.

1773
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:33,720
Related TO this yannis i think fucked Up, because he's.

1774
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,199
Speaker 2: Yes he's the biggest loser in, all of this if

1775
01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:37,479
you if you want to really, lay it.

1776
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: Out because yeah he'll, get his extension which will be

1777
01:24:40,039 --> 01:24:42,840
Eligible for in, january four years two hundred and. Seventy three,

1778
01:24:43,079 --> 01:24:45,479
MILLION right now i think it. Projects to BE but

1779
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,079
he i think it mentioned this in an. Interview once

1780
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:50,960
too it might have been years ago that he's worried

1781
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,600
about the team trading for him giving. Up too much

1782
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,119
so what is? He LEFT with do i think the

1783
01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:59,520
heat drew you have, a better second best player than

1784
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,279
you would Have. Had in milwaukee now you could Also,

1785
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,840
ask in bam but you could have also asked you

1786
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,000
have a, better coach Too Like just aer spolser might

1787
01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:09,680
be the best COACH. In, the nba sure with, that

1788
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,560
being said could you make the case that had He

1789
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,399
stayed in milwaukee and they traded the three first round

1790
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,720
picks they were. Eligible to Trade that the bucks could

1791
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,800
have been in a Better position with giannis than the

1792
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,600
current version of The heat with. Giannis this season if

1793
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,359
you even have to think for maybe in two, seconds,

1794
01:25:26,359 --> 01:25:29,159
about it right. That's a problem and this is it's

1795
01:25:29,239 --> 01:25:32,560
not on the level that he he needed to. Request

1796
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,840
a trade and just like the whole him trying to

1797
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,600
win or his camp trying to win the pr game.

1798
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,479
Was just awful this was. Like it own it. Did

1799
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,560
the whole he communicated and he. Wouldn't sign extension that's

1800
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,239
akin to. Requesting a trade what are we doing Here?

1801
01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:48,600
At the pretzels and you did this for what felt

1802
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,680
like two years, at this point and SO he really

1803
01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:55,399
i think he he messed it. Up for himself and

1804
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,720
then he didn't want to Go to certain he was

1805
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,760
only willing to sign An extension With boston Or. Minnesota

1806
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:02,560
or miami minnesota never had a real pathway A good

1807
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,640
when it was funny When they TRADED randall and i,

1808
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,199
saw somebody like is this a Precursor to? A GIANNIS move,

1809
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:08,600
and i said so they got rid of a, first

1810
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,279
round pick and it's more. Likely, that, THEY yeah sure

1811
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,319
i think that he could have done. Himself a favor

1812
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,439
if you wanted To, Go, to miami yeah would, have

1813
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,720
gotten ugly but it already. Got an ugly you should

1814
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,199
have applied more, Pressure and said i'm not signing an Extension.

1815
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:26,640
Anywhere but miami And then maybe miami is doesn't have

1816
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,720
To take on portis or Gets off the yovich deal it.

1817
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: Or pulls a pick out of there that they can

1818
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,760
use to Supplement. THE new core i think what he

1819
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,560
should if it was Just down To, boston, and miami

1820
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,399
realistically he should have done the, opposite and said it Needs,

1821
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,399
to be boston. Make it happen i'm not. Extending anywhere

1822
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,479
else and Then That's. Just jalen brown and now You're

1823
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,880
Playing with Jason Tatum and Derek White and Peyton pritchard

1824
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,640
and cada and and like, if you were if you

1825
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,119
were remotely serious about hoping to, win another championship you

1826
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,800
You go To boston over miami a million times out.

1827
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,359
Of a million maybe you know what heat culture or,

1828
01:27:07,399 --> 01:27:10,319
spoolstrow all this maybe like they'll pull. THEY'LL make magic,

1829
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:14,359
I just like i'm So sick of i'm so sick

1830
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,720
of THE like all i want to, do is win

1831
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:20,479
and then you just act in ways that are in

1832
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,399
direct and blatant opposition to, That stated aim like it's

1833
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,720
insane to, It's such, bullshit, AND like honestly i am

1834
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,720
at a point NOW where like I find like i

1835
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,439
just don't understand What he what. Yiannis is thinking it

1836
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,079
doesn't make, Sense to me like it's been the, way

1837
01:27:38,119 --> 01:27:40,399
you mentioned the way they handled the like, non trade,

1838
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,159
demand trade demand and like the way that he steered

1839
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:45,880
himself to a team that makes that doesn't make sense

1840
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,399
that like strip the roster of everything to get like,

1841
01:27:49,159 --> 01:27:51,800
do you like is is no one, telling, him like

1842
01:27:52,039 --> 01:27:54,239
hey here's who's gonna be there when, You get there

1843
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,159
here's here are the here are the hurdles they will

1844
01:27:57,239 --> 01:28:00,600
have to face to, Surround you with like anything does?

1845
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,840
This concern you do you see how this maybe limits

1846
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,640
your opportunity to win a championship if you actually, care

1847
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,000
ABOUT that which i. THINK he does i. JUST don't

1848
01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:10,960
think i don't know it's either Him or his he's

1849
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,039
not being advised by anybody that like understands how any,

1850
01:28:14,079 --> 01:28:17,119
Of THIS works so. I don't know it's like, baffling

1851
01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:19,000
to me how Is? It not boston.

1852
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,199
Speaker 1: If he was it it comes back to, what you

1853
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,199
said if he was, serious about winning he would because that,

1854
01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:26,680
was The one whereas boston seems like it put its

1855
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,960
best offer on the table And Was a jayleen brown

1856
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,359
in two picks is. A, real offer.

1857
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah he even.

1858
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,319
Speaker 1: Make, the case okay there's not a ton there's still

1859
01:28:33,359 --> 01:28:35,680
the same amount of bodies left and a little. Bit,

1860
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,960
more flexibility sure but. You're absolutely right also a lot

1861
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,319
of this could have been nipped. In the butt he

1862
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,479
just been more firm about this. From.

1863
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: The, BEGINNING yeah yeah i don't know how, much MY

1864
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:50,319
criticism like i don't know, how long ago what like

1865
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,479
five cycles of? Will They trade yiannis ago was just

1866
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,800
like he can't Look at this bucks roster and see.

1867
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:56,159
Speaker 1: A title.

1868
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:58,359
Speaker 2: Contender he, CAN'T it's, Like i know, i've said this

1869
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,359
like it's totally it's absurd to look at this team

1870
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,359
and say we can win. A title here so like pull,

1871
01:29:05,399 --> 01:29:09,079
the trigger then however long ago that was just. Stringing

1872
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:11,159
it out is again just like a total just like

1873
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:14,000
divorce from reality AND how. The nba works i'm never.

1874
01:29:14,079 --> 01:29:16,840
Gonna understand it, you know what if you want here's. The,

1875
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,239
only explanation sentimentally he just wanted To stay in milwaukee

1876
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,119
and was irrational about it because. He had, feelings and

1877
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:26,640
like if, THAT'S the EXPLANATION i. GUESS i can i can.

1878
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,880
Live with that that. Pass your muster but, LIKE beyond

1879
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,119
THAT i just i it's it's gonna mystify me. UNTIL

1880
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:36,000
just FOREVER i don't.

1881
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't know there's so when you're looking at the,

1882
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,199
heat right now do you even think that they have? Enough,

1883
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,960
ball handling well there's a lot to. Talk about shooting

1884
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,279
well You Think that, pelly Larson's there but giannis has to.

1885
01:29:47,359 --> 01:29:50,119
Speaker 2: Have the ball that's what that. Makes, him good uh

1886
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:53,760
we can talk about like How good is giannis given

1887
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,199
the availability and the athleticism based game he has and.

1888
01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:00,680
THE decline saw i saw a very discouraging chart somebody

1889
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,760
put up of the aging curves Of guys Like, duncan

1890
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:06,199
AND dirk and I think maybe garnett was. The other one, and,

1891
01:30:06,279 --> 01:30:10,119
it's like also like it's it's getting it's Like right

1892
01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:12,279
as janis is hitting this age, and, it's, like Well

1893
01:30:12,319 --> 01:30:14,880
yeah but duncan was still. An elite defender. Janice is

1894
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,520
not dirk was. An elite shooter JANICE is not. Kg

1895
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,439
elite defender jannie is not that so like the decline

1896
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,880
could be even steeper for him just given his game,

1897
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:32,159
ball handling wise You, Got what Mitchell, larson AND jannis that's.

1898
01:30:32,359 --> 01:30:34,960
I DON'T know I i think i would still cite

1899
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:39,600
shooting as, the bigger concern but ball handling is not not,

1900
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,880
A concerns Right like there's mitchell's not a pure point guard.

1901
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,159
Really like that that's a guy who's defense first and has. Become,

1902
01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:53,039
A SHOOTER YEAH i. I i don't i don't see

1903
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,000
Ranked ranked the Heat in the, east right now if

1904
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,239
you just, had to guess they're behind the nick, out the, Pistons.

1905
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: The pistons are they behind? The, healthy, PACERS.

1906
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 2: Yes oh i. Would, say so yeah so, they're fit

1907
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:15,399
halves the sixth. Certainly the magic now now we're in

1908
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,000
a tier right where we're talking like We're. Fringe playing,

1909
01:31:18,079 --> 01:31:24,039
atlanta great, job, great job everybody great job.

1910
01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:27,399
Speaker 1: You it well so do you have anything Else? ON the,

1911
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,000
heat i mean there's just they have to we go

1912
01:31:29,159 --> 01:31:31,720
through like it's pointless to. Go through names is they

1913
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,880
really need to? Hope that grant and if we went

1914
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,600
through a list of free, agents right NOW you and

1915
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,720
i probably know. Those by heart, at this point there

1916
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,880
needs to be a name that's willing to join them

1917
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,680
for a steep discount that we wouldn't, even think. Of

1918
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,960
like that they need that type, of VICTORY now and

1919
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,319
i would argue they might need multiple of those. Kinds

1920
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:49,600
of victories do you if you, were, the heat though

1921
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:53,199
would you have? Made this trade orld you've what would?

1922
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,800
You have done because if you don't trade for your

1923
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:56,159
honest what?

1924
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: Are? You, Doing well AGAIN that's, why, I ASKED like.

1925
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,000
I i don't Maybe maybe i've i've gone too far towards,

1926
01:32:03,079 --> 01:32:04,920
the like well being in the middle is not as

1927
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,840
horrible as it used to be if you just draft.

1928
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:13,399
SMARTLY and. WHATEVER i don't I don't think i would have.

1929
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:18,159
Made this trade THE reasons being i don't think this makes.

1930
01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:20,920
Them a contender and if You're, trading for grannis isn't

1931
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,840
that that needs to? Be? Your GOAL right and I

1932
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:30,039
think that i think you could do more with the

1933
01:32:30,199 --> 01:32:32,760
current roster and those picks if you really want. To

1934
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,399
swing big there will be other opportunities, at the deadline

1935
01:32:36,399 --> 01:32:37,920
or you could, blow it up like there's a lot

1936
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,159
of other. Ways to go this, nuke's, their future pickwise

1937
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:47,079
and it makes their present like not to me in

1938
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:52,920
a most likely. Outcome meaningfully better if everything breaks absolutely

1939
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,720
right and all this free agent stuff we're talking about,

1940
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,640
goes their, way all right maybe they win fifty a,

1941
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,920
some odd games and then, they're VERY scary and i

1942
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:01,760
guess you have to call them a, CONTENDER that like

1943
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,319
i just cannot sit here and say that's the.

1944
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:06,039
Speaker 1: Most likely outcome do you feel any better if they

1945
01:33:06,079 --> 01:33:09,439
figure out a Way? To KEEP powell which. I just

1946
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,640
don't i'm trying to work through the machinations.

1947
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: ON my head i, think that like?

1948
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: How much better not enough?

1949
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: To do?

1950
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,039
Speaker 1: It not enough you wouldn't move them up like any

1951
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:20,039
of the teams we, kind of name.

1952
01:33:20,079 --> 01:33:22,159
Speaker 2: There's, no one well Maybe they're in maybe they're in

1953
01:33:22,279 --> 01:33:25,680
the four to six range instead of the seven. To

1954
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,039
nine range, IN the Conference i guess i'm.

1955
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Gonna have to quip the you had A really good

1956
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,119
i should have had you said on your cell phone

1957
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:33,039
camera you did a Good. Speech on giannist i'm gonna

1958
01:33:33,039 --> 01:33:34,479
have to clip. That for shorts, god.

1959
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: DAMN it grand i can't do IT again because i

1960
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,119
ALREADY forgot, what, i, said.

1961
01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah great could you just recite everything? You just said

1962
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:42,840
do you have anything else on the bucks OF the

1963
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,720
heecause i want to ask you Something about the celtics before.

1964
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 2: Let's, move on yeah.

1965
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on what's Next for The Celtics? And Jailen

1966
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,680
brown because i'm, looking at this do you Feel like

1967
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:53,760
WE shaan's reported i think we mentioned this at the top,

1968
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,079
of the show or maybe it was off air leading

1969
01:33:56,119 --> 01:33:58,720
into the Draft of the celtics are still Taking Calls

1970
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,000
with jalen brown now that. You honest traded do you

1971
01:34:01,039 --> 01:34:04,079
think that they've reached the point? Of no return like they?

1972
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:07,039
Dangled him Openly And, remember kevin durant he was linked

1973
01:34:07,079 --> 01:34:10,039
to that in. Twenty twenty three. Now there's this he

1974
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:11,880
could sit, here and Say What? Was kevin Urrant. It

1975
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,159
was yannest but he just came out of a season

1976
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,479
where people made fun of him because he said it was.

1977
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,960
HIS favorite year i think he, meant more so not

1978
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:20,760
just he was the, number one option but people would

1979
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,359
counted out we were. One, of them yea by the

1980
01:34:22,399 --> 01:34:23,119
way they Counted.

1981
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Out the celtics.

1982
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,159
Speaker 1: There's that variable so he's now. Been dangled twice there

1983
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:29,560
is his, contract three years one hundred and eighty. Plus

1984
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,560
million dollars and then there's also does he want to

1985
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,560
be the? Number? One option still what is?

1986
01:34:36,079 --> 01:34:36,119
Speaker 2: What?

1987
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: Is go like what is? Going on? Here? What did

1988
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,119
what what? Do they do and THE thing that i

1989
01:34:41,159 --> 01:34:43,239
think concerns me is that if you're Now Still, shopping

1990
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:46,279
jalen brown if This wasn't a, yanna SPECIFIC situation and

1991
01:34:46,359 --> 01:34:48,279
i think you could have even said this had They

1992
01:34:48,319 --> 01:34:50,760
traded for yannest that was a risk in itself and

1993
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,960
you were getting. The best player If You trade JALEN

1994
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,800
brown Now i would i'd be willing to bet a

1995
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,159
large sum of money that you're Not gonna be you're

1996
01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:02,119
the one sending out the best player. IN that deal.

1997
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 2: I THINK that i i there's. NO arguing that i

1998
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,119
think there's still a way for them to become a

1999
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:12,199
better team, by trading him if that's what they. Decide

2000
01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:14,760
to do but your, question is like what do you

2001
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,239
do If. YOU'RE the, celtics i think because of all the,

2002
01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:19,720
factors you, mentioned you have they are you have to

2003
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:26,199
and they are seemingly really thinking, about TRADING HIM and i, i,

2004
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:31,279
GOTTA say like. I get, IT i think i think

2005
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:36,159
and it's Not just like i'm certainly there's a like

2006
01:35:36,399 --> 01:35:39,479
a part OF it is i think people are, looking,

2007
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,479
at like well look what He's, saying on twitch and

2008
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,760
like look at it's there's, like the well they just

2009
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,399
got to move, On FROM him like, i don't, KNOW

2010
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,199
personality WISE i, think i, think you know there's a lot.

2011
01:35:49,279 --> 01:35:51,159
To be said if they just keep him and, make

2012
01:35:51,319 --> 01:35:53,960
sensible additions they're gonna be. Really fucking good so LIKE

2013
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,039
like so, I would. Really i don't it's not a

2014
01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:00,239
bad outcome if they smooth all this over and they

2015
01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:04,399
can keep, Him at all but he. Is really expensive

2016
01:36:05,399 --> 01:36:07,399
he's not going to have a better season than.

2017
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 1: He just did extension eligible. In two years.

2018
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,119
Speaker 2: You sure can't. You sure can't so there's the, financial

2019
01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:21,439
factors too and there's the like can we turn him

2020
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,039
into two and a half good players like and a

2021
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:26,640
pick that none of what which none of that is

2022
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,560
as valuable as him. In a, vacuum but like there's

2023
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,920
a Way for the celtics, to improve themselves, become more,

2024
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:37,640
flexible become, cheaper become deeper become better bottom line. By

2025
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:41,960
moving him do you think it's reached a point now

2026
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,640
where they have? TO trade him i think maybe. THAT'S

2027
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:45,399
the question.

2028
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't. THINK they have, I wouldn't personally i just.

2029
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,600
Wouldn't trade Him but if i'm Wondering if, like i'm

2030
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,039
wondering if there's friction now behind the scenes because it's

2031
01:36:56,079 --> 01:36:57,960
the second time AND you got i DON'T know how

2032
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,800
i can't remember how close They Got to kevin durant,

2033
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,960
and twenty three this felt like you were definitely in,

2034
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,720
the red zone if not on like the five yard line,

2035
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:06,680
right or something.

2036
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 2: It's To where if, Jannis, had, said boston please, it's

2037
01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:14,319
done right like that's y're we're going to, do it.

2038
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,119
Speaker 1: So which it might be easier for Him To because

2039
01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:19,560
kevin rant was still older in. Twenty twenty three you

2040
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,159
could look at, You all right. It's be honest he

2041
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:23,479
was PLAYING at an mvp level this year on A skeleton.

2042
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,680
Crew bucks team you could chalk that up If your

2043
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,600
jail brown or whatever he did say leading, into the

2044
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,039
offseason he wants to play another ten Years, and bean

2045
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:33,439
town but the fact that they're still taking calls on

2046
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,600
him makes me believe that they either think they need

2047
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,119
to trade him or they don't want to bankroll this.

2048
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:43,520
Contract any longer and they're looking at, reallocating those assets

2049
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,520
and that's just that's a weird spot to be because

2050
01:37:47,359 --> 01:37:49,199
that is kind of, an, admittance that oh the two

2051
01:37:49,279 --> 01:37:51,800
max model is now just not, working for us the two. Veteran,

2052
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:52,840
MAX model.

2053
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,079
Speaker 2: YEAH I mean, I i yeah i guess you could

2054
01:37:56,079 --> 01:37:56,319
look at.

2055
01:37:56,359 --> 01:37:57,119
Speaker 1: IT that Way i.

2056
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:02,119
Speaker 2: Because jannis would have been it would BE different if

2057
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,119
i think the two max in this particular Situation, with

2058
01:38:06,279 --> 01:38:09,239
LIKE brown maybe. I don't know it's can, you, even,

2059
01:38:09,279 --> 01:38:11,399
say like oh he, might be unhappy like if there

2060
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,039
were no trade things, circling around him you know a

2061
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:15,560
few times.

2062
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:16,119
Speaker 1: OVER the years.

2063
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't know i never really bought into the like

2064
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:21,840
you Know what, did sean say like he's intrigued with

2065
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,600
the idea of having his own team or some. Version

2066
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,680
of that somebody reported, that, it's like well every PLAYER

2067
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,840
in the nba has been the best player on their

2068
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,600
team for most. Of their lives they would all they

2069
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,359
all think they, can do it and they all have.

2070
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,279
At some point like, IT'S you KNOW i don't i

2071
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:39,119
don't make too. MUCH of THAT i just i, feel

2072
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:43,600
like this do they have? To trade him you don't have.

2073
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,600
To do anything but we're pretty close to, WHERE it's

2074
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,119
like i don't know if, this is salvageable because it

2075
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,600
would BOTHER me if i kept GETTING dangled and i

2076
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,680
just gave you the best season, of my career Right

2077
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,079
like he it might be the type of thing that's

2078
01:38:57,159 --> 01:39:00,159
like it's. Run its course maybe you know to to

2079
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:01,239
cliche it. A little bit.

2080
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: I DON'T know so I have a This Is very bill.

2081
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,399
Simmons of me but? What is it god? To love

2082
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,039
grant It's ran on. Gianni's decision Making it's what. I'M

2083
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:14,720
here for i. Should be offended why aren't you here?

2084
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:20,840
From my rants who's the Best player the? Celtics could

2085
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,720
acquire Trade Like. Trading, Jalen brown Okay i'm gonna i'll

2086
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,159
throw a couple of.

2087
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:27,039
Speaker 2: Names, At You, well, trey murphy right you?

2088
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,119
Speaker 1: NOT good, ENOUGH i would, I, Would argue yeah i'm sure.

2089
01:39:30,279 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: It was a. Part of It You're, getting herb jones you're.

2090
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,239
Getting other stuff, you're getting picks all that tuff?

2091
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: COULD you get, i, would, THINK so right. I do

2092
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,960
it now You're gonna have now You're Gonna, Have Keaton

2093
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,399
woggler Darius Garland and jalen brown. ON your team i

2094
01:39:46,399 --> 01:39:46,680
don't Care.

2095
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,159
Speaker 2: About the pappers we're Talking, About the celtics so This.

2096
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: Is the so could you get You would get Jade

2097
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,199
McDaniels for jollen brown if You, called, THE wolves right, I, would,

2098
01:39:57,279 --> 01:40:01,359
assume so Yeah there's a i'm, gonna say no but You.

2099
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:07,760
Like jazz pot Could? YOU get. CHIP i don't i.

2100
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:08,359
Speaker 2: Don't think so?

2101
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Could you get it would have to be a. Sign

2102
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:14,680
and trade Could You? GET austin reeves.

2103
01:40:19,159 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 2: I. BET you could i. Bet you could Could You?

2104
01:40:23,159 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 1: Get amen, thompson, Oh, YEAH easy okay i mean that

2105
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,199
would PROBABLY be the ba the base basis. Of a

2106
01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:39,880
package Could you get Could You? Get? TYREE'S maxie.

2107
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 2: Nope i, Don't, THINK so.

2108
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,399
Speaker 1: OKAY i DON'T i feel I feel like i'm out of.

2109
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,760
FASCINATING names, there i mean the names that we went

2110
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,760
THROUGH is just i don't know which one would make

2111
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,520
Me as. The celtics wanted there would HAVE to be.

2112
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,439
I would say other stuff is in multiple things attached

2113
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,600
for them part, which IS well that's i.

2114
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,119
Speaker 2: Think it is it is and your band and if

2115
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:08,039
this cuts against like usually the winner of the trade gets.

2116
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:10,800
The best player like to, grossly oversimplify it but that

2117
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,479
is sort of how things tend. To shake out it's

2118
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,520
just not always easy to identify. The best player we

2119
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,600
just Talked about the Thunder getting Shake gil just alexander

2120
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,560
with a bunch Of Picks. For paul george nobody had

2121
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,359
Any idea that shaye was the best player. In. That

2122
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,439
TRADE UH but i i really do think there is

2123
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,399
a case to be Made for the, celtics getting, better

2124
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:35,720
you know writ Large. By trading brown if you get

2125
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,720
back enough good players with some picks and you get.

2126
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,199
MORE financially manageable i do think that's. A realistic possibility

2127
01:41:44,319 --> 01:41:46,039
i just don't ask me to, Draw.

2128
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: It Out. Glasgow says Donovan Mitchell. For, JALEN brown hmm

2129
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,920
i actually think the cav. Should Do that ys Mitchell.

2130
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,319
BETTER than, brown, I think yeah i don't. KNOW the

2131
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,760
player i have, a better one maybe not. A better

2132
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:03,880
One What about Evan Mobley.

2133
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 2: For, jalen brown well, now that's interesting. THAT'S got INTERESTING

2134
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,199
i think i do that as More readily AS boston

2135
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:19,079
than i Do. AS the calves i THINK real that's

2136
01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:20,960
i kind of like That from, the, cavs side Though

2137
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,159
You just jared allen's are five now And You.

2138
01:42:23,359 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: Just Jalen Brown Donovan, mitchell james harden You're probably what i'll.

2139
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,479
HAVE to look i don't know how, much, money Is

2140
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,800
Like because evan mobley definitely Makes Less, than jalen brown

2141
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:34,039
so maybe as much.

2142
01:42:34,039 --> 01:42:36,520
Speaker 2: AS you, think i, mean it's well it's well because he.

2143
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Actually did, qualify you're right because he did qualify for

2144
01:42:39,039 --> 01:42:45,399
the the. Thirty percent max so he's at next year. Fifty,

2145
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,079
point one yeah so THIS doesn't, really i mean the

2146
01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:50,600
calves are potentially. A second, eight oh well they, can't

2147
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,520
aggregate then so that's all then you to, finish second

2148
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,439
first but you. Figure That Out so evan mobley And

2149
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,960
stuff for jim that would be that. Would, be interesting

2150
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,199
yeah that'd.

2151
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 2: BE like it.

2152
01:43:03,279 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: I like it where did you? Orde go next we

2153
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:06,159
have a couple.

2154
01:43:06,199 --> 01:43:08,520
Speaker 2: Of, things left yeah we got To hit, THE randall trade.

2155
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,840
I think Right So rand julius randall Goes To the

2156
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:17,159
brooklyn nets with, number twenty eight who has A name that.

2157
01:43:17,239 --> 01:43:20,760
I Can't remember the bulls knows their way in Here And,

2158
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:27,479
Get Nick, Claxton Joshua Jefferson, sir joshua Jefferson and the

2159
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,520
wolves get, number thirty three whose name we. Don't know

2160
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,960
yet as, we record this correct correct and, for their

2161
01:43:34,039 --> 01:43:36,840
trouble they create a thirty three million dollar trade exception

2162
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:41,640
that they. Probably won't use what was your first reaction?

2163
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,039
To THIS trade because i know. WHAT mine was i

2164
01:43:45,359 --> 01:43:46,319
think we Had the same.

2165
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: So my first Reaction was? What's BROOKLYN doing because i

2166
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,319
was just like what that's? All it caught. Like they

2167
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,159
got they moved up five spots in the draft Order To,

2168
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:00,279
get julius randall but also to Get Rich. OF nick

2169
01:44:00,319 --> 01:44:02,039
claxton i know he had some movies dealing with a

2170
01:44:02,039 --> 01:44:04,600
bunch of back issues this, year OR something. BUT i

2171
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,439
don't i still look at him as he can make.

2172
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,720
A defensive impact. He intrigues me he stills a little

2173
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,600
bit Of like. The driving game his contract is two,

2174
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,479
more YEARS left and i think it declines in. THOSE

2175
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,439
two years i was surprised that they. WENT this route

2176
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,760
i thought more. About It though julius randall is kind of,

2177
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:26,199
just the oh we need someone to monopolize touches and generate.

2178
01:44:26,319 --> 01:44:29,720
Looks for himself. Might work there and they don't have

2179
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,279
their first round, pick next year so there's value in

2180
01:44:32,319 --> 01:44:35,119
them trying. To WIN games. SO i don't i don't

2181
01:44:35,159 --> 01:44:39,000
know that they GOT excellent like i really the most

2182
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,800
surprising part of this to me ended up being they

2183
01:44:41,039 --> 01:44:44,119
did Not Value or nicholas klaxton had no value basically

2184
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:47,279
whatso he had enough Value where the, bulls were okay just, absorbing,

2185
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:50,680
his contract right but the, net And look the nets

2186
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,720
are still working with as, WE record this i have

2187
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:54,439
THEM at what i put them. In for it they

2188
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,479
have like thirty million dollars or thirty six plus million

2189
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:02,399
dollars left, In cap space so this isn't. An Capping move, but,

2190
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,079
i'm like so what? ARE they doing i Guess They

2191
01:45:04,119 --> 01:45:08,000
believe darron sharp is better At Center. Than nick claxton

2192
01:45:08,079 --> 01:45:10,600
i'm not Willing To buy darren. SHARP is good i

2193
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,800
don't know if He's. Better than pete he'll certainly be

2194
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,920
cheaper with. His team option i'm very curiously how they

2195
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,239
go about the rest of their, offseason now though, After, This, trade.

2196
01:45:18,079 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 2: Right yeah you've touched on It any in glasgow, In

2197
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,439
THE comments like, i Just Like, so nick claxton just

2198
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,159
like we're just like giving him like good Good. On

2199
01:45:28,279 --> 01:45:30,800
the bulls my, thought, was Like wow the bulls just got, him,

2200
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,159
for nothing right and like just got A player who

2201
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,520
i don't know he would start, for many teams, certainly

2202
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,680
not all, like maybe half maybe a little. Less than

2203
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,840
that and HE'S not like I don't find claxon's contract.

2204
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,439
To be terrible it's two years and forty four and,

2205
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:50,199
a half MILLION like that's, I don't, know i mean,

2206
01:45:51,159 --> 01:45:54,760
that's starter money but like barely AND like so i

2207
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,920
just was Shocked that the bulls just were able to

2208
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,840
nose in and get. Him for zero.

2209
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: It's a New. DAY in chicago i think the other

2210
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,520
thing that's interesting there too is what that might do

2211
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,199
to the center market a little bit because, the thought

2212
01:46:07,279 --> 01:46:09,960
process what a lot Of people, in brooklyn said Is

2213
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,680
that the nets made this trade and they want To,

2214
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,279
Elevate diron sharp so they're probably not going to be

2215
01:46:14,279 --> 01:46:16,960
in the market for. An expensive big chicago might have

2216
01:46:17,039 --> 01:46:19,319
been in the market for, an expensive big but now you,

2217
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,039
Have Your, starter nick claxton so you're presumably not going

2218
01:46:22,119 --> 01:46:27,199
To Go after Jalen Duran or Mitchell. Robinson or KESLER

2219
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,000
so that i, found interesting, Too, Is Okay well John

2220
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:32,479
Dura and walker kesler are. Just staying PUT then.

2221
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,279
Speaker 2: Can i do you have anything Else on THE bulls

2222
01:46:35,319 --> 01:46:37,439
because i want to get Back to the minnesota. SIDE

2223
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:42,960
of this i as as pure. SALARY dumps go i

2224
01:46:43,159 --> 01:46:46,760
don't HATE it LIKE i just. I get IT you've

2225
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,239
got i would assume A rescigens. That's i figure, they, were,

2226
01:46:49,359 --> 01:46:53,880
like yeah hard it's linked And then nas reid if

2227
01:46:54,079 --> 01:46:56,720
If we, Had i'll SAY i'll SAY i if i

2228
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,479
had a reservation about the read contract that he signed,

2229
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,960
JUST last summer i think, it's, that like man that's

2230
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,000
a lot of money. For, a backup well guess who's not?

2231
01:47:05,039 --> 01:47:07,720
A backup anymore and guess who? Might just bet, You

2232
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,279
know what my probably Is Better, than julius randall at

2233
01:47:11,359 --> 01:47:12,920
least in terms of like what you need on. A

2234
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,119
playoff team because, of his spacing he Defended better than

2235
01:47:16,159 --> 01:47:19,720
randall did a younger like you go. DOWN the List

2236
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,520
i think reid going forward is just a Better. Player

2237
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,279
than randall he won't, have, more, points rebounds assists but

2238
01:47:25,399 --> 01:47:27,640
like he's just a bet he's more of. A winning

2239
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,800
player this is coming From someone that i've gone a little,

2240
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,479
back and forth but mostly have just been Out on.

2241
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,760
THE randall experience i don't think he. Helps you, win,

2242
01:47:35,359 --> 01:47:40,960
uh so yeah you you move down five spots and

2243
01:47:41,079 --> 01:47:43,760
you dump sixty nine million dollars of a player that doesn't,

2244
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:46,279
help you win you elevate a better player into a.

2245
01:47:46,359 --> 01:47:49,960
More prominent role you could have just spent on everybody

2246
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:52,479
like they could have paid assume. What They did so

2247
01:47:52,680 --> 01:48:00,960
i'm carrying some. Water, for OWNERSHIP sorry but i think

2248
01:48:01,159 --> 01:48:03,640
At least a rod has a lot of like great peptiz.

2249
01:48:03,319 --> 01:48:04,079
Speaker 1: Wis do you actually think?

2250
01:48:04,119 --> 01:48:04,399
Speaker 3: That they're?

2251
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: INTERESTING you really i just think he could get me

2252
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,039
onto like a lot of the good like health supplements

2253
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:13,760
and things. Of that Nature uh he so if you're

2254
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,960
trying to preserve a modicum of flexibility, as the wolves.

2255
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,319
This ALSO helps SO i just i LIKE IT AS

2256
01:48:22,359 --> 01:48:26,079
i i i don't want THE only reservation i, have is,

2257
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:29,920
like yay ownership cutting your tax bill. A, little bit

2258
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,680
yeah that's not even.

2259
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 3: It.

2260
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:33,319
Speaker 1: FOR me is i THINK it's very i understand, what

2261
01:48:33,399 --> 01:48:36,199
you're saying but IT'S very much. Tbd to me because

2262
01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:38,960
the Thing is, the dissum deal which, is five years

2263
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,359
one hundred and twelve point, five, million dollars which, BY

2264
01:48:41,359 --> 01:48:43,039
the way i think we both took the over on

2265
01:48:43,159 --> 01:48:45,880
eighteen million when we did the free Agency draft, the,

2266
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:49,920
patroon episode right so. Look at us it tops out

2267
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:51,920
at like twelve point seven percent of. The salary cap

2268
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,479
so that. DEAL is fine i don't think it's going to,

2269
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:54,319
be a bargain.

2270
01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 2: But would you it's pretty, sticker shocky though until you

2271
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:57,960
go to the percentage.

2272
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: Like seven percent for a start and will he should

2273
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,239
start or he'll at? Least close games, as, for you Well,

2274
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,279
not Don dan even. Jentle's not, healthy here's, yes And You,

2275
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,640
like jesse randall. Had to go it was about the play.

2276
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,840
And the money but what are you doing with? This

2277
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,960
newfound flexibility and So what the wolves are right now

2278
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,159
is they are, eleven point three, let's just say eleven

2279
01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:21,239
million dollars under the tax and twenty point six million

2280
01:49:21,239 --> 01:49:23,640
dollars below. The first apron you don't get to sit

2281
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,560
here and say you did this for the flexibility if you,

2282
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,159
don't turn, around not immediately but you don't turn around

2283
01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:31,479
and use THE non tax eml, to get better because

2284
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,359
you did lose some, ball handling here you. Did lose,

2285
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:36,760
Scoring and look. Nasred is good jane. McDaniels is good

2286
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,640
McDaniels has more of an OFFENSIVE package than i ever.

2287
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,079
Could HAVE imagined but i don't think funneling More touches

2288
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:45,279
to jade McDaniels. Is the answer he's not setting. UP

2289
01:49:45,319 --> 01:49:48,119
other teammates i think the biggest benefit when It comes

2290
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:50,359
to jane McDaniels here is that he probably plays more

2291
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:52,640
Four for the wolves. At THIS point and i think

2292
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,399
those lineups could be. A cheat, code that's great turn

2293
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,000
around and do something they probably WON'T. Use the tpe

2294
01:49:58,119 --> 01:50:00,840
it doesn't expire, till next summer but you it's like

2295
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,279
When They dumped mike conley because everyone thought they were

2296
01:50:03,279 --> 01:50:05,560
getting ready For like, a yiannis trade and they didn't

2297
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:07,960
really do anything. With that flexibility you need to do.

2298
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:10,159
Something with it this, isn't ABOUT yes Do i think

2299
01:50:10,239 --> 01:50:13,279
randall was? Helping, them win no. That doesn't meet, you,

2300
01:50:13,359 --> 01:50:14,960
could say well if, he was there they would have

2301
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,920
felt obligated to. PLAY him, one i mean, make it

2302
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,319
awkward then bring him, off the bench like his value

2303
01:50:20,399 --> 01:50:22,039
is such that you still had to attach a first

2304
01:50:22,119 --> 01:50:24,039
round pick to get. Rid Of him so i'm not

2305
01:50:24,079 --> 01:50:25,760
saying they shouldn't have. Done This move and i'm with

2306
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:29,039
you that the cost was low enough moving five spots down,

2307
01:50:29,399 --> 01:50:31,239
in the draft or maybe you still end up. With

2308
01:50:31,319 --> 01:50:33,680
your guy Maybe They wanted trayvon brazil and the knew

2309
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,079
he was gonna be in. The Second round but i'm

2310
01:50:36,119 --> 01:50:39,479
still a big believer in and especially when you've already.

2311
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,279
AS an organization i know there were some ownership tie ups.

2312
01:50:42,319 --> 01:50:44,119
AT the point i don't think the sale was completed

2313
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:46,439
right When They Traded. Karl anthony towns but you've now

2314
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,600
just entered the realm of too much cost cutting for

2315
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,239
me without it turning. In, to anyone yes you got,

2316
01:50:52,319 --> 01:50:54,119
iotas SOON move but i justssume it was another one

2317
01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:56,479
that you, didn't need, To you know pretzel twist your

2318
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,800
cap sheet to get iotsume move making. Under eight, million,

2319
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:05,319
so Yeah yeah you're you're right, if they don't if

2320
01:51:05,319 --> 01:51:05,920
they don't use.

2321
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 2: The, full mid level it would be pretty disappointing. At

2322
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,279
SOME point i'm, i just like you should. Get a

2323
01:51:11,319 --> 01:51:13,600
player you should, get a bad expensive player. Off your

2324
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,640
team if it all costs you is five spots in the,

2325
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,439
in the draft. Like that's you you could end the

2326
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,119
analysis there and it like, makes SOME sense, but i

2327
01:51:21,239 --> 01:51:23,640
agree like you gotta go turn that mid level into

2328
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,800
Like Get the anthony meltin and another wing or, Another

2329
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:28,880
ball handler like you got.

2330
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: To turn it into something because You do need probably

2331
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:32,439
even If you want jayden playing more for and YOU

2332
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,800
have NOAs i think that you're, probably gonna want like

2333
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,720
you need another kind of. Forward, IN here sure i

2334
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,399
have a name for another team that's looking from another

2335
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,760
team that's looking, to cheap Out One that tim connolly's into.

2336
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,680
Intimately familiar with do you think they could figure out

2337
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,880
how because they could still, by the way this, deal

2338
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,479
isn't done so they could still expand It and use

2339
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,119
randall's money as a means of. Taking back money do

2340
01:51:54,199 --> 01:51:56,199
you think that you can, compensate A team because I'm

2341
01:51:56,199 --> 01:51:58,800
assuming the wolves don't want to like they they're not

2342
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:00,920
gonna go into the second ap and they would be taking.

2343
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:05,159
Back less money do you think that you could compensate

2344
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:07,319
a team To Take on devincenzo he's probably not going

2345
01:52:07,399 --> 01:52:10,399
to play this season and You Just take cam Johnson. Back,

2346
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:11,359
from denver.

2347
01:52:11,359 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah That does terrence shannon? As the? Compensation do enough

2348
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,800
or do you? Actually Need him or.

2349
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: Kenzo's cheap ENOUGH to where i might look at, it

2350
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:21,520
and say if he's, willing to sit like you could look,

2351
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,640
at it like what is it going to cost to

2352
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,239
retain him? After this season based on when? HE'S not

2353
01:52:26,319 --> 01:52:27,560
playing i think that's.

2354
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 2: Enough, FOR sure YEAH i mean i think That would

2355
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,880
be johnson would, be a great a great get, add

2356
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,000
some spacing another forward that you could conceivably. Close games with,

2357
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,520
you're still like just THE length is i mean Between

2358
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,199
McDaniels And red and gobert and can't like you could

2359
01:52:42,199 --> 01:52:45,159
play those guys all together with at, The, one theoretically

2360
01:52:46,399 --> 01:52:46,920
yeah and.

2361
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 1: He thinks so he's ten or twenty, Three point one

2362
01:52:52,119 --> 01:52:54,359
so that's what ten million Bucks? Cheaper than Randall what

2363
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:54,960
was randall's?

2364
01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 2: Number this? Year thirty three so you.

2365
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,159
Speaker 1: Tell in theory you Wouldn't, need To actually if denver

2366
01:53:01,359 --> 01:53:03,279
just wanted to Get Rid, of cam johnson you Could

2367
01:53:03,399 --> 01:53:04,560
Just take Cam, johnson.

2368
01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: Beat well then we're Just gonna give denver a raft

2369
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,640
of ship for cheaping because that would be. Even more

2370
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,640
egregious if they're just cheaping out and Getting Rid, of

2371
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:11,560
cam johnson.

2372
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: Well they. Yeah it does they are going, to cheap,

2373
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,079
out so well what?

2374
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 2: Else is new? That's not Fair They, paid Christian brown

2375
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,960
The wolves THE wolves have i would be Disappointed if

2376
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,760
the wolves didn't. Do something ELSE but but i understand

2377
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,119
this deal as a we got to get Out of

2378
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,439
the randall business that's that's a, good move objectively that

2379
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,479
opens up opportunities for better players to play more and to.

2380
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,600
HAVE different roles. I do think i do think that's

2381
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:37,439
it's defensible.

2382
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,159
Speaker 1: On THAT level so tbd, On my end let's Talk

2383
01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:43,680
Really closely aaron Wiggins To, the atlanta hawks who you

2384
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,000
were upset BECAUSE between resigning cj McCollum And Trading, for

2385
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:51,000
aaron wiggins they are effectively not as dangerous of. A

2386
01:53:51,079 --> 01:53:53,079
team anymore i want to Talk, about the Thunder but the.

2387
01:53:53,119 --> 01:53:55,960
HAWKS really quickly i just thought, that, this was like they're.

2388
01:53:56,039 --> 01:53:57,840
KIND of interesting i loved this. Trade for them just

2389
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,600
Take them into lukenard. TRADED player exception I Think, that

2390
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,880
aaron wiggins despite not Being in the thunders playoff rotation,

2391
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,359
this past year he's another sort of like. Wing type

2392
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,399
guard you could put the bill get downhill. A little

2393
01:54:09,399 --> 01:54:11,960
bit he could. THEORETICALLY make threes i thought that was

2394
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,800
a good piece Of, business for atlanta with THE exception

2395
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,960
of i don't really KNOW that or i think they

2396
01:54:18,039 --> 01:54:20,279
might be Out Of the zachary resa shape business. At,

2397
01:54:20,319 --> 01:54:22,079
This point yeah and, if.

2398
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 2: They are then there's plenty of evidence suggest. That it's

2399
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,399
good it's a good business to be out. Of so,

2400
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,600
far you know it's he's, certainly, had opportunities right he,

2401
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,960
was a start he's he's still. Obviously so young but

2402
01:54:33,079 --> 01:54:35,840
like it's not like they it's not like they brought.

2403
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,399
Him along slowly the dude was like starting full time

2404
01:54:38,479 --> 01:54:40,800
from the jump and has had opportunities to. PLAY a,

2405
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:44,600
lot i think like that's the kind OF thing where

2406
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,680
i don't feel like this immediately means like they should or.

2407
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,520
Will trade him it's the kind of, thing, of like

2408
01:54:51,239 --> 01:54:53,359
yeah well if he comes into camp and is, like

2409
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,039
way better which is totally reasonable, at twenty one he'll

2410
01:54:56,079 --> 01:54:58,079
just earn his way back into the spot we, hope, He,

2411
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:00,600
occupies right like it's not like it's not like just

2412
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,039
because he's he's not playing in games or he got cut,

2413
01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:05,840
from the rotation it's it's, over like okay prove it

2414
01:55:06,039 --> 01:55:08,760
and then, if he doesn't then, well bad pick move

2415
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,239
on and move on, At that Point like so i'm

2416
01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:13,199
not too. Bothered by that it is just Kind of

2417
01:55:13,279 --> 01:55:16,800
like wiggins is, objectively like yes you take, him for,

2418
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:18,880
Nothing of course like that's, A great GET like, That's

2419
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,199
nba player yeah you do? That every time.

2420
01:55:24,079 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: What do you make of.

2421
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,079
Speaker 2: The McCullum one we haven't really talked.

2422
01:55:26,079 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: About, that resigning yeah it's because they knew that they

2423
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,880
were Going To draft kingston flemings and they. Don't trust

2424
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,680
him that's. What they knew it WAS a bad desi,

2425
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,039
it got. IT got it i think the way he played,

2426
01:55:36,079 --> 01:55:38,720
in the playoffs and they just needed more kind of

2427
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:42,600
creation from the, from the perimeter just who could also

2428
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,199
space because you. Just have that you don't see.

2429
01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: One year deals for twenty. Plus million anymore it's that that's.

2430
01:55:48,039 --> 01:55:50,399
Speaker 1: Also so weird it's an interesting trade chip if they want.

2431
01:55:50,439 --> 01:55:51,720
TO make it i was also going to, ask you

2432
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,720
though now they have so they have him, at twenty

2433
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,960
one can't be trade. Eligible right now of course They

2434
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:57,680
have the jonathan can make. A team option, i Was

2435
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:01,439
wondering does wiggans make it more likely that They decline the?

2436
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:04,039
Kamica team? Option do they because you do start to

2437
01:56:04,079 --> 01:56:06,319
get Into, the Recess schet The, dice And, daniels The

2438
01:56:06,399 --> 01:56:10,720
wiggins The jonathan commit there is. A jumble there so

2439
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,359
do you think that THIS makes it i think it

2440
01:56:13,439 --> 01:56:15,239
makes it more likely they pick up, the TEAM option

2441
01:56:15,359 --> 01:56:16,680
but i also think it makes it More likely that

2442
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,439
John and thank amica does not begin The, season in

2443
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:19,920
atlanta if that. Makes, ANY sense.

2444
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah i was just trying to look like they're at

2445
01:56:22,119 --> 01:56:26,640
one hundred and sixty three in. Salary right now the tax.

2446
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,199
Is two hundred so like even if they brought him back,

2447
01:56:29,239 --> 01:56:32,279
at twenty, four they're not they're nowhere close.

2448
01:56:32,319 --> 01:56:36,199
Speaker 1: To The tax right so their fourteen player projection is

2449
01:56:36,319 --> 01:56:37,760
they has them like ten and a half million.

2450
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,319
Speaker 2: Beneath, the tax yeah now you're Having to.

2451
01:56:41,279 --> 01:56:44,039
Speaker 1: Adding, kaminga there yeah so if you want to use THE,

2452
01:56:44,079 --> 01:56:46,319
full mL e you would go. Into the tax so

2453
01:56:46,399 --> 01:56:47,720
maybe you could just get, rid of it? Would? You

2454
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:52,520
Rather Okay question grant Hughes as of, JUNE twenty well i.

2455
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,720
Guess It is it's, june twenty fourth on my. Dwenty

2456
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,840
third year would you prefer to have the non tax

2457
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,840
payer mid Level Exception? Or johnathan, minga oh.

2458
01:57:02,239 --> 01:57:07,319
Speaker 2: Boy this is, where we've come this is where. We

2459
01:57:07,439 --> 01:57:10,600
are NOW so can i go get a fifteen million

2460
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:14,279
dollar player That's Better than jonathan kaminga at? Twenty, four

2461
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:16,159
three right that's.

2462
01:57:16,039 --> 01:57:18,199
Speaker 1: Don't Even forget. About minga's number let's even say He

2463
01:57:18,319 --> 01:57:20,319
was making would you prefer to have the mystery box

2464
01:57:20,479 --> 01:57:23,920
of THE non Tax Mla. Or johnathan, kaminga oh.

2465
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: Boy let me look at some free. Agents real quick stall.

2466
01:57:27,079 --> 01:57:28,039
For A second Can i.

2467
01:57:28,079 --> 01:57:30,359
Speaker 1: Get leslie already? OFF the board i could not.

2468
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Off, the, board yeah boy there's not a. LOT out,

2469
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,359
There I mean kobe white's going for more than that

2470
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,920
One Would assume Dean Wade.

2471
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,399
Speaker 1: Or jonathan kaminga have we? Gotten, TO that yeah i.

2472
01:57:42,479 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 2: Think you gotta you Gotta. JUST say, kaminga I mean

2473
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,960
like Dort, WITH he yeah i think you Probably. Gotta

2474
01:57:48,039 --> 01:57:50,920
say kaminga but it is alarming that, that's a question

2475
01:57:51,319 --> 01:57:53,960
and and reasonable. Minds could disagree would you? What? Would

2476
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:55,920
you where would you rather have cominga or?

2477
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,239
Speaker 1: THE mid level I would probably I'd rather HAVE kminga

2478
01:57:59,319 --> 01:58:01,840
because i think that as, a trade number you could

2479
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,960
trade it immediately and then the number. To bring BACK

2480
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,720
that's how i. Think, about, Things, Yeah oh Glasgow. Kamingo

2481
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,399
or levine I'd. Rather have levine simon? Close, that please.

2482
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,119
Speaker 2: Boy THIS is really i Feel like He's i'm being

2483
01:58:14,279 --> 01:58:17,319
i'm being targeted. With, this, one uh okay You? Can't

2484
01:58:17,359 --> 01:58:20,760
trade levine, Oh, GO ahead no i was just gonna

2485
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,479
HEM and haw i Don't know what, my Answer Is Don'l.

2486
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,399
Speaker 1: Kloma city thunder let, the cost cutting IT'S it's the

2487
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,760
i have we got to CALL It the. Okc summer

2488
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:34,800
shred that's? Do you know how? Do you know did

2489
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,479
you see or do you know how much money in

2490
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,880
tax and salary they Saved By dumping andrew wiggins Who makes,

2491
01:58:41,239 --> 01:58:43,359
Uh I'm sorry aaron wiggins who makes under.

2492
01:58:43,439 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Ten million dollars it, was, like sixty right seventy.

2493
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,199
Speaker 1: Six million dollars that's a.

2494
01:58:48,279 --> 01:58:52,039
Speaker 2: Lot of. Dollars that's uh they got more.

2495
01:58:52,079 --> 01:58:56,439
Speaker 1: To Go though uh so they are as of now

2496
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,560
about twenty nine point four million dollars over. The second

2497
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,479
apron it's just Really funny because hartenstein has a twenty

2498
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,880
eight point five million. Dollar player option so, it's just like,

2499
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:08,319
So close there? What who's NEXT is what I want,

2500
01:59:08,319 --> 01:59:09,680
to and well, By the way i'm not applauding the,

2501
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,840
cost cutting here they have the option of just keeping. This,

2502
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:16,399
team together YEAH so like I killed the, wolves For

2503
01:59:16,479 --> 01:59:18,760
it the thunder just at a different level because their

2504
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,000
roster is gonna cost half a billion, Dollars.

2505
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,359
Speaker 2: Right right well they're now they're, under that though because

2506
01:59:23,399 --> 01:59:25,439
the seventy six off five, point fifty four you're in

2507
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,000
one of the. FOUR eighties somewhere i don't think, Just,

2508
01:59:28,119 --> 01:59:29,079
pay it like what's? The big?

2509
01:59:29,159 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: Deal Who's?

2510
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 2: Next not hartenstein who's? Next to go is? That the

2511
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,640
question like why not be? ON the, team i mean

2512
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,560
So If, it's isaiah joe that's what saves you another

2513
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,119
like ninety uh. Give or tape, by the way For

2514
01:59:45,319 --> 01:59:48,880
using the wiggins conversion of of of nine, equals seventy

2515
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,680
six what is eleven? Point Three equal man.

2516
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:53,279
Speaker 1: Miami needs to figure out a way to get in On,

2517
01:59:53,319 --> 01:59:53,680
the isa.

2518
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:59,159
Speaker 2: Joes that'd be one to. GET for sure i mean he's, a,

2519
01:59:59,199 --> 02:00:02,880
Logical One, CERTAINLY kenrish williams i think you could just

2520
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:06,239
decline that option, and there's seven which is what probably

2521
02:00:06,279 --> 02:00:10,560
fifty or something like that. That they save dort is

2522
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,880
obviously the one that you'd have to. THINK hardest.

2523
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:17,199
Speaker 1: ABOUT i suppose i think if you're trying to get

2524
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,159
all the way beneath, the Second apron doesn't dort need

2525
02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:23,520
to go. UNLESS he's resigning i guess if you're thinking

2526
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,840
we can decline Team options On dirt and hartenstein and

2527
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,680
then resign, them for Cheaper like if hartenstein would signed

2528
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,640
for twenty five, million a year so three and, a

2529
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:34,960
half million or let you start like for four and. A,

2530
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:37,520
one hundred yeah and so you can start, that at

2531
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,479
well let's say twenty three or twenty, two or something

2532
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,800
so we say five Million bucks would? Dort do something

2533
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,479
is the mid level? At four years is that how?

2534
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:49,239
Far he's dropped so then you're saving three another three or,

2535
02:00:49,279 --> 02:00:50,880
Something million dollars so then you might only need to

2536
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,720
get rid of because when You, Look at Dort williams

2537
02:00:55,279 --> 02:00:56,880
and Joe is what. I'm getting at if you're not

2538
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,600
going to change, anyone's cap pulled you gotta get rid

2539
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:01,319
of two. Of those guys if you're looking to Dump. A, second,

2540
02:01:01,319 --> 02:01:02,560
APRIL yeah, yeah i.

2541
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 2: Mean it's funny this feels so like the conversations we

2542
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,279
were having about like How do the celtics duck the

2543
02:01:10,319 --> 02:01:12,439
second like who's gonna go well, holiday for sure and

2544
02:01:12,479 --> 02:01:14,399
then porzingis and then but if you really wanted, to

2545
02:01:14,439 --> 02:01:16,159
do it it would, just be brown, like you know it's.

2546
02:01:16,199 --> 02:01:20,239
Definitely not white it's just funny that we're having the same.

2547
02:01:20,399 --> 02:01:24,760
TYPES of, conversations, i mean okay here's a it's. A

2548
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,239
hot take i'll say it's a hot take it would

2549
02:01:28,279 --> 02:01:33,560
it just potentially benefit the thunder to make To not

2550
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,239
have dort. On the roster not saying you just don't pick,

2551
02:01:36,319 --> 02:01:38,159
up the option but maybe, you trade him you pick

2552
02:01:38,199 --> 02:01:40,439
it up and trade him or, something like that just

2553
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:44,600
because then you're talking about More. MINUTES for, wallace i

2554
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,439
mean like is In McCain and mitchell and like there's

2555
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,039
just more guard and wing minutes available and you're better

2556
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:53,359
in the, Aggregate that way and obviously you save the

2557
02:01:53,399 --> 02:01:56,760
biggest chunk by just making that. Number go away is there?

2558
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,520
ANYTHING to that i think the safest course is the,

2559
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:02,840
when you're out you reduce Both his in hartenstein's number

2560
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,760
and then maybe all it Takes is Either joe or.

2561
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:09,800
Williams Is gone but i'm not you you could talk me, into,

2562
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,359
just like okay we can just do better at The

2563
02:02:12,399 --> 02:02:15,680
spot that dort is playing more cheaply with younger players

2564
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,159
that are. Not offensive zeros, and.

2565
02:02:18,199 --> 02:02:21,279
Speaker 1: It's what it's eighteen million, in, one shot right he's, on,

2566
02:02:21,399 --> 02:02:24,039
the books yah. Seventeen POINT two, AND i look i

2567
02:02:24,119 --> 02:02:28,800
mean so looking at the, CAP space teams I feel

2568
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:30,880
maybe chicago, wouldn't Take him would brooklyn?

2569
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:31,039
Speaker 2: Just?

2570
02:02:31,119 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Take HIM well randall I think the lakers might just take.

2571
02:02:36,079 --> 02:02:37,720
HIM for, that, i mean yeah he would.

2572
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 2: Play for them they need they need that type Of,

2573
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:41,840
guy for yeah there Are seams that dort makes way

2574
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,000
more sense on because the thunder over Index on what.

2575
02:02:44,079 --> 02:02:46,279
Dort's good at there's plenty of teams that need a.

2576
02:02:46,399 --> 02:02:47,359
BONA fide stopper.

2577
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: I think that i think that's, why you're right because

2578
02:02:51,159 --> 02:02:53,640
you're more likely to you're gonna get more if you're

2579
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:55,960
trading these, Guys You Want like aaron wiggans got you two,

2580
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:01,079
Second round picks dort gets You More than Henrich Williams, or,

2581
02:03:02,079 --> 02:03:02,960
ISAIAH joe right.

2582
02:03:04,159 --> 02:03:06,399
Speaker 2: I think so i Think, so like dort you could

2583
02:03:06,439 --> 02:03:09,680
get a fake first or you know late for you.

2584
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,479
Speaker 1: Could get That top. Protected.

2585
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 2: Warriors, SOMETHING yeah yeah i mean he's just he. Would

2586
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,399
have more it's way Easier FOR random team x To

2587
02:03:18,439 --> 02:03:20,079
look at, dort and say like that guy could close

2588
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:22,039
games for us than it is For someone like. Wiggins

2589
02:03:22,199 --> 02:03:24,520
for example and he got, You TWO seconds So i mean.

2590
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,640
Dort makes more so. That's a, factor but yeah that

2591
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:28,840
dude could start and close for a.

2592
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,279
Speaker 1: LOT of Teams I think isaiah joe is going. TO

2593
02:03:31,319 --> 02:03:33,039
be next i don't know if That means that dort will.

2594
02:03:33,039 --> 02:03:34,640
NECESSARILY be Back I think isaiah joe is going.

2595
02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 2: To, be next well The fact that, Wiggins Was first

2596
02:03:37,279 --> 02:03:39,800
like joe's the other guy like. In, THAT bucket uh

2597
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,640
i think that if they tip Their. Hand, WITH wiggins

2598
02:03:44,279 --> 02:03:47,119
Yeah i think joe's. A logical, choice but grant we have.

2599
02:03:47,239 --> 02:03:49,960
Only two tops we Have, only, two, SORRY no no.

2600
02:03:50,079 --> 02:03:51,800
I got nothing i was. Just gonna, vamp go? Ahead

2601
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:52,520
What's next.

2602
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 3: Trey young Resigned With The washington wizards grand use use,

2603
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:03,600
them four years two hundred and twelve point, nine million

2604
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:04,520
dollars which.

2605
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:09,479
Speaker 1: Completely by accident is the exact amount another team could

2606
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,119
have offered him as a four year max. In free, Agency,

2607
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,760
m hm hey how much of a bargain?

2608
02:04:15,479 --> 02:04:21,119
Speaker 2: Is this deal if the reason they did this was

2609
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,560
because they were afraid of Another Team paying tray, young

2610
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,640
this much they should have let Another Team pay tray.

2611
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:30,680
Young this much dust their hands off and say all

2612
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,640
it COST. Us was Cj McCollum. And, corey kispert cool

2613
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:37,279
we have the, Number one pick we got a lot.

2614
02:04:37,319 --> 02:04:40,720
Of young, talent you. Know we tried we thought we

2615
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:43,560
had a reasonable deal that we could keep him on

2616
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,479
and turns. Out we, can't oh well that's a way

2617
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,479
better outcome to me than spending fifty plus million dollars

2618
02:04:50,479 --> 02:04:53,439
A Year. ON trey YOUNG i. JUST i don't i

2619
02:04:55,399 --> 02:04:58,840
really try to try to like give the benefit of

2620
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:01,359
the doubt to like team that are, run by smart

2621
02:05:01,479 --> 02:05:04,279
accomplished people that like know the business and know. What

2622
02:05:04,319 --> 02:05:08,720
they're doing so like that's why this is so hard for,

2623
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,600
me to understand because like this just feels like an

2624
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:16,479
insane mistake that we would you care to push?

2625
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 1: Back, On, THAT no. No I don't brian windhorse said

2626
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,079
it was the worst CONTRACT, in THE nba and i

2627
02:05:26,239 --> 02:05:29,119
DON'T know that i. COULD go that i Think yaka Perl.

2628
02:05:29,239 --> 02:05:30,279
JOELLE embiid, all.

2629
02:05:30,199 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 2: I, think yeah right it's but given, the circumstances THOUGH

2630
02:05:35,479 --> 02:05:38,199
like wh i think here's a.

2631
02:05:38,279 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 1: Case for that what you said to ME though when

2632
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:46,039
I posted saying I'm My my tray young Trade to

2633
02:05:46,079 --> 02:05:48,680
the wizard takes or, aging like milk you told me

2634
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,319
that we need to, separate THE two and i would argue.

2635
02:05:51,359 --> 02:05:55,680
That We don't so i'm undermining my own like credibility

2636
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:59,439
here because that trade was enticing to me because you

2637
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,159
Did It knowing trey young was going. Into free agency

2638
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,680
so my, whole thing was they're either just gonna let

2639
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:06,439
him play out, on that contract or he'll hop in

2640
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:08,680
and they'll extend him off that at, a lower number

2641
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:11,199
or he'll just sign a new deal at. A lower number,

2642
02:06:11,399 --> 02:06:13,800
and it's yes they're flexible enough to where, it doesn't

2643
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:18,119
Matter But like anny davis, is extension eligible like this

2644
02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:20,359
makes Me less comp my, whole, thing was yeah They're

2645
02:06:20,399 --> 02:06:23,359
Gonna squeeze, anthony Davis too and i'm not pro, players

2646
02:06:23,439 --> 02:06:26,640
GETTING squeezed but. I don't think I Don't think anthony

2647
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:29,279
davis is a max player in. The League Anymore maybe

2648
02:06:29,359 --> 02:06:31,560
trey young proves us wrong and there's something too so

2649
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:33,680
many Or Out. On trey young maybe he just comes

2650
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:38,079
back like a bad. Out OF hell but i don't,

2651
02:06:38,199 --> 02:06:41,000
like The deal and i'm with you that they should

2652
02:06:41,039 --> 02:06:42,640
have just. Let HIM walk and i want to know

2653
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,880
what the stalking. Horse team was the Way that the

2654
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:46,960
nets Went And got julius randall makes me think that.

2655
02:06:47,039 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 2: It, was them well it, had to be because It's,

2656
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:52,199
not the lakers and It's. NOT the BULLS i assume

2657
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:55,000
i like to and so who else sign? AND trade

2658
02:06:55,039 --> 02:06:57,159
options i suppose a sign and trade would. Have been

2659
02:06:57,199 --> 02:06:59,920
preferable that's that's a great outcome because You're getting your

2660
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:04,239
you're getting something, in, That SCENARIO RIGHT so i i,

2661
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:08,119
that to me there's that makes no, sense, that they

2662
02:07:08,319 --> 02:07:11,479
oh they were pushed, to do this which so does

2663
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:14,560
it follow then that this was the deal that they

2664
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:16,680
agreed to when they. Traded for him? Can?

2665
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:17,800
Speaker 3: That be like?

2666
02:07:18,119 --> 02:07:22,399
Speaker 1: IS that, possible i mean the reporting says that there

2667
02:07:22,479 --> 02:07:24,119
was at least one team Prepared to maxim do you

2668
02:07:24,159 --> 02:07:27,000
think that they knew that? Before the trade because that.

2669
02:07:27,159 --> 02:07:29,439
MAKES it worse i have more respect for them thinking

2670
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,880
we're gonna, get this player and we think that we're

2671
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,279
gonna work out more of a team friendly deal because

2672
02:07:34,279 --> 02:07:37,039
he has. A player option THERE'S just no I thought

2673
02:07:37,079 --> 02:07:39,239
when i, FIRST saw, IT i said I didn't Read

2674
02:07:39,279 --> 02:07:41,119
i think. SHAM'S had it i didn't read the, entire

2675
02:07:41,439 --> 02:07:43,119
News break, and, i'm like oh there has to be

2676
02:07:43,239 --> 02:07:46,039
some sort of just like partial guarantee on. The final

2677
02:07:46,119 --> 02:07:50,640
years it's. A, PLAYER option look i think perception is

2678
02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:52,920
probably veered too far away FROM trade being i think

2679
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,720
he can be a close to, transcendent OFFENSIVE player But

2680
02:07:57,199 --> 02:07:59,359
i don't this is not like this is a small

2681
02:07:59,439 --> 02:08:03,319
guard who can't provide the type of defensive resistance that

2682
02:08:03,439 --> 02:08:06,520
you Might Get. From kingston flemings since that's The But

2683
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,760
or jalen brunton to, STAY WITH that i. I don't

2684
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,920
know do You look at, washington, and say well they

2685
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:15,760
have the defensive infrastructure or? PROP him. UP i guess

2686
02:08:16,159 --> 02:08:17,960
i mean, they have ballal they have a d, they

2687
02:08:18,039 --> 02:08:21,720
have car they have blakool bali, they say blool they,

2688
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,039
have the bansa then they have a Cool. BALI enda banza.

2689
02:08:26,319 --> 02:08:30,319
Speaker 2: I just SAY it's It's I think trey young's best

2690
02:08:30,399 --> 02:08:34,279
years are. WAY behind him i think there's several, Factors

2691
02:08:34,399 --> 02:08:37,000
that's that like just the, statistical trend line like this

2692
02:08:37,119 --> 02:08:38,920
dude has not been a good three point shooter for. Like,

2693
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,159
four years uh players don't seem to like. Playing WITH

2694
02:08:42,279 --> 02:08:44,640
him like i just that's going Back to. THE atlanta

2695
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:47,600
stuff i think he monopolizes the ball to a degree

2696
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:50,000
that sometimes leads, to GOOD offense but i think oftentimes

2697
02:08:50,119 --> 02:08:52,079
is gonna stunt the growth. Of young players wizards have

2698
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:55,760
a lot. Of young. PLAYERS there's THAT i, just i

2699
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:59,600
think like THIS is all nba, top option money and

2700
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,640
this dude is NOT an, All nba player like he's

2701
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:07,439
a he's an, ABOVE average starter i think net he's

2702
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,399
got a big name and puts, up big numbers so

2703
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,840
like his reputation is. Greater than that but the end,

2704
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:14,960
of it all and that's, all, to say like if

2705
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:17,199
they could have retained him for three years and one

2706
02:09:17,279 --> 02:09:20,439
hundred and, TWENTY million DOLLARS i think i would have been,

2707
02:09:20,479 --> 02:09:23,399
Okay with that and even that's a lot for AS

2708
02:09:23,479 --> 02:09:26,439
much as i, Just knocked him but this is just

2709
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,359
like they did not have. To do this the alternative

2710
02:09:30,399 --> 02:09:34,000
of letting him go was like totally. Legitimate and excusable

2711
02:09:34,479 --> 02:09:36,960
and you know what our reaction would have been, Had, that, happened,

2712
02:09:37,079 --> 02:09:39,720
like eh oh well it didn't. Cost him anything you

2713
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,520
got Off of kiss burt's money. For, this, year great

2714
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:47,000
right you saved fourteen million. Dollars THIS Year so. I

2715
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:52,239
i'm baffled i would be DEEPLY concerned if I were.

2716
02:09:52,279 --> 02:09:54,399
A wizards fan it will shock.

2717
02:09:54,199 --> 02:09:57,039
Speaker 1: You to Know that the wizards aren't concerned about the

2718
02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:59,640
price point. On this CONTRACT That was i i'm just

2719
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:02,840
trying to what do you think? Their logic was that

2720
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:05,640
they are just so hell bent on trying, to win

2721
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:09,199
games especially now that the new lottery format doesn't reward,

2722
02:10:09,239 --> 02:10:11,920
you for losing or do you do you think that

2723
02:10:12,039 --> 02:10:14,560
there's a kernel of truth to the idea that they

2724
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:18,199
believe he will prop up lift up the young, guys

2725
02:10:18,199 --> 02:10:20,119
around him or just the talent around people when LOOKING

2726
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:21,319
at ad.

2727
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:25,640
Speaker 2: I think they have to believe, like those Things And

2728
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,359
that trey young is better than he actually is and

2729
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,640
and all that stuff, like all right let's be. Let's

2730
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:35,000
Be charitable Trey Young and anthony davis has a pick

2731
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:38,239
and roll combination in theory in the best, Possible case

2732
02:10:38,279 --> 02:10:42,079
outcome like that's, a, That's interesting right if everybody's healthy

2733
02:10:42,119 --> 02:10:44,079
and everybody does what they did when they, were their

2734
02:10:44,119 --> 02:10:47,319
best that's an interesting possibility surrounded by a lot of. Young,

2735
02:10:47,359 --> 02:10:52,880
athletic players okay so maybe maybe they think they could

2736
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:57,399
make Noise, In THE east like, i don't know you

2737
02:10:57,479 --> 02:10:59,560
could talk. Yourself into that you could talk, yourself, into

2738
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:01,239
like oh the optics are bad if we just lose

2739
02:11:01,319 --> 02:11:02,960
them for nothing and. We cheap out we don't want to.

2740
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,159
Be that team you know that that that comes. WITH

2741
02:11:05,239 --> 02:11:09,039
a cost i think it's a COMBINATION of things i

2742
02:11:09,239 --> 02:11:13,279
just all of which are. Miscalculations to, ME UH so.

2743
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:17,439
I i don't i don't even remember what. Your question was,

2744
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:19,640
I'm just like i'm trying to see it in a

2745
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:22,720
positive light from, the wizard's side, or like you you

2746
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:24,640
want it, to make, sense you know that's kind of what,

2747
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:26,359
we're doing, here is like how can we make? IT

2748
02:11:26,399 --> 02:11:31,079
MAKE SENSE i. I i don't i've yet to come

2749
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:33,640
across anything that even As Like a DEVIL'S advocate case i.

2750
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,159
Speaker 1: COULD get behind i was Just trying to i'm trying

2751
02:11:36,199 --> 02:11:39,079
to understand it, from their perspective beyond the we thought

2752
02:11:39,159 --> 02:11:41,720
there was another. Max offer there, because first off that's

2753
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,960
your justification for re. Signing a player you've kind of

2754
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:46,560
already lost, the, argument.

2755
02:11:46,319 --> 02:11:49,119
Speaker 2: Then right right because it's it's like it only takes

2756
02:11:49,159 --> 02:11:52,119
one doesn't mean that's. A, rational, one yeah right that

2757
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,479
that if, that's the reason that's the worst, reason, is

2758
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:57,920
is oh we can't. Let somebody else if someone else

2759
02:11:58,039 --> 02:12:01,119
is willing, to pay this therefore that's his. Value to

2760
02:12:01,319 --> 02:12:04,760
us that's just not that that is not a logical.

2761
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:06,720
Train OF thought and i might have.

2762
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:08,439
Speaker 1: Mentioned this already but it does make me a little

2763
02:12:08,479 --> 02:12:10,800
bit more concerned about now how they're Gonna Handle the. Anthony,

2764
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,800
davis stuff well there's initial reports that they might look at.

2765
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,640
Me moving him we know he. WANTS an extension I

2766
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:21,319
think that trey being basically the only floor general. On

2767
02:12:21,399 --> 02:12:23,600
this rod Like It's, not bub Carrington It's, not trey

2768
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:28,079
johnson but he had that market Cornered within the. Wizard's

2769
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:30,000
DEPTH chart, but.

2770
02:12:33,079 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean look like they Came More. For Anthony Davis

2771
02:12:36,199 --> 02:12:39,279
isn't anthony davis if he is healthy? A? Better player

2772
02:12:39,399 --> 02:12:41,239
now you don't get to just say that because he's,

2773
02:12:41,399 --> 02:12:43,159
not ever healthy or if.

2774
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:45,680
Speaker 1: You're asking like i'd rather, Have right now I'd Rather,

2775
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:46,439
have trey young.

2776
02:12:49,079 --> 02:12:51,439
Speaker 2: Years and, Dollars being equal You'd rather have Trey.

2777
02:12:52,279 --> 02:12:55,760
Speaker 1: Give me trey young on This Contract. Over anthony davis i'm. The, same,

2778
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:57,840
ONE yeah MAN i think i go.

2779
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:00,239
Speaker 2: THE other way i. DON'T want to i want nothing

2780
02:13:00,279 --> 02:13:02,199
to do with. Either of them want to be very

2781
02:13:02,319 --> 02:13:07,159
clear at this. At These Numbers while davis davis would

2782
02:13:07,239 --> 02:13:09,960
not shock me if if in a healthy year next

2783
02:13:10,039 --> 02:13:12,680
Season WAS an, ALL nba player i. Would Be Stunned

2784
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,760
if trey Young IS an all nba, Player next year.

2785
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:17,159
Speaker 1: He's gonna have the ball in his hands and put

2786
02:13:17,239 --> 02:13:19,960
up a ton. Of offensive numbers what's the, to get,

2787
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,279
well hold. On hold on To BE an, all nba

2788
02:13:22,359 --> 02:13:24,319
player you need to play in at least. SIXTY five,

2789
02:13:24,399 --> 02:13:28,079
GAMES i, said I Said if anthony, davis, is healthy

2790
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:30,239
right which you don't.

2791
02:13:30,279 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 2: Get, TO do look i don't want either, of these,

2792
02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:35,079
guys it Seems do you so.

2793
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:38,680
Speaker 1: We'd all have alcohol poisoning.

2794
02:13:38,399 --> 02:13:42,279
Speaker 2: If he was a big time If. If the wizards

2795
02:13:42,399 --> 02:13:43,640
this is one of those things, where, it's like Well

2796
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,680
if the wizards are willing, to do this then you're

2797
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:49,199
totally justified and asking like are they just Kind Of max,

2798
02:13:49,239 --> 02:13:54,239
ANTHONY davis like. I, Don't know well but and the.

2799
02:13:54,279 --> 02:13:57,119
Speaker 1: Other thing HERE too is i. APPRECIATE the candord i

2800
02:13:57,119 --> 02:13:59,279
don't even know if This is what davis was. Meaning

2801
02:13:59,359 --> 02:14:01,760
to do but do you did you see it Was

2802
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:03,319
an article it was like a month or so ago

2803
02:14:03,439 --> 02:14:05,359
that he Went to the wizards front office and wanted

2804
02:14:05,399 --> 02:14:08,039
to know what the plan was to. Build the contender

2805
02:14:08,439 --> 02:14:11,039
so clearly you don't think That You and trey young and.

2806
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 2: When he, opened the door was everyone just like eating

2807
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:15,279
paste in the room and They're like.

2808
02:14:15,399 --> 02:14:19,479
Speaker 1: What so it's just so you recognize that you have

2809
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,199
like these two can't be the, face of, it which is,

2810
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,439
by the way that's, fine to say especially when you

2811
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:26,239
have such a young, talent around them but you just

2812
02:14:26,319 --> 02:14:28,119
went and max to one. Of them out it's just so.

2813
02:14:29,079 --> 02:14:29,840
It's not far.

2814
02:14:30,199 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 2: It's not good i'm, it's not good and.

2815
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:35,399
Speaker 1: This is It look anyone. Wizards fans listening i've been

2816
02:14:35,439 --> 02:14:38,239
in the Bag for the Wizards during. THE swinger eraror

2817
02:14:38,319 --> 02:14:41,720
i thought they've handled everything, so just coherently they were,

2818
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:45,239
methodical about it, AND maybe this i want to say

2819
02:14:45,279 --> 02:14:47,079
they've earned the benefit, of the doubt but this is

2820
02:14:47,199 --> 02:14:49,359
just completely. Inexplicable, to me well and.

2821
02:14:49,399 --> 02:14:51,640
Speaker 2: It's just like i'm sure you. Came across this it,

2822
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:54,319
was just, like you know it's the same ownership that

2823
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:56,800
Did This, with bradley beale and it's just, kind, of,

2824
02:14:56,880 --> 02:15:00,239
like oh right like you can you can only like

2825
02:15:00,319 --> 02:15:02,840
you can only hold out for so long before.

2826
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:04,399
Speaker 1: It would just go. Back to this and it was

2827
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:06,920
so like to see a team that just had the

2828
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:10,319
number one. PICK give out, i would say what profiles

2829
02:15:10,439 --> 02:15:13,319
right now as one of the ten worst CONTRACTS in

2830
02:15:13,399 --> 02:15:16,119
the nba to actively decide this is a thing we're

2831
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:21,319
gonna do just to increase is the, level of inexplicability

2832
02:15:22,039 --> 02:15:24,520
the best you've gotten.

2833
02:15:24,359 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 2: Fitting the best thing. You can say we've also been potting,

2834
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:29,920
For two hours so the best thing you can say

2835
02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:34,199
is it's it's it's a better thing now to be

2836
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:39,119
pretty good than it, used To Be and trey young

2837
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:42,920
might help you. BE pretty good i don't think there's

2838
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,920
any Like the the this is kind of like the

2839
02:15:46,039 --> 02:15:48,600
Mobile with the cavs conversation a, few years ago, where,

2840
02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:51,600
it's like well if they're ever going to reach the

2841
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:54,760
highest level they can, with this roster It'll be because

2842
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:57,720
debonsa is a generational superstar and he's the best player,

2843
02:15:57,800 --> 02:15:59,680
on the team in which case it makes no sense

2844
02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:01,640
to have a ball dominant point guard that can't defend

2845
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,119
and doesn't shoot threes. Very well anymore like so.

2846
02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:06,439
Speaker 1: This least doesn't play, off the ball even if you believe, that,

2847
02:16:06,479 --> 02:16:07,039
she doesn't right?

2848
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:11,479
Speaker 2: Can't or won't which? Do? You, pick right so, so

2849
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:16,640
like you this is, a, move that yes it's defensible

2850
02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:19,399
if like winning thirty eight to forty four games, is

2851
02:16:19,479 --> 02:16:21,640
cool again which kind, Of it is but it's also

2852
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,600
like you just got the number one pick and and

2853
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:28,319
this profiles as a. Wildly unambitious move, which is. Like

2854
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:32,879
you can't it's it's like it compounds the, disappointment of

2855
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:33,520
like and it's.

2856
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:35,959
Speaker 1: Also winning thirty eight to forty four games is only

2857
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,760
cool again because of what it might get you, in

2858
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:41,959
the Lottery which the wizards aren't supposed. To care about

2859
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:44,559
like we've entered a cycle where they're supposed to. Be,

2860
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:48,399
aiming bigger ye we'll see IF we're. Proven i will

2861
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:51,200
i'll Be a static i'm PROVEN wrong because i love

2862
02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:53,079
so many of the individual Guys, on the wizards BUT

2863
02:16:53,159 --> 02:16:53,440
this is.

2864
02:16:53,680 --> 02:16:56,760
Speaker 2: I have questions I'M worried because i feel so, strongly

2865
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,920
about it, and, it's like ah there's got to be

2866
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:02,360
something you're not seeing and And hopefully for, wizards fans.

2867
02:17:02,360 --> 02:17:04,440
Sake THAT'S true but i don't.

2868
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:07,479
Speaker 1: Know final item because We're Gonna cover DUSTY MAY when

2869
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:09,280
I i think I have A mavericks look ahead schedule

2870
02:17:09,319 --> 02:17:12,440
tomorrow with friend Of The. Podcast Brian taporik the Blazers

2871
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:17,239
hire mikeah Nor To. REPLACE thiago splitter i just need

2872
02:17:17,319 --> 02:17:20,200
a few minutes here to figure out how many years

2873
02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:22,559
guaranteed years are. On his contract i'm NOT sure if

2874
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:24,440
i could. Count that high do you know how.

2875
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:31,760
Speaker 2: Many it's less than, One point one so what does

2876
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:33,399
that leave us more than.

2877
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:36,600
Speaker 1: It's more than guaranteed for? A, half season wow. Grant

2878
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:39,200
we did we did like Fifteen Minutes. On trey, young

2879
02:17:39,319 --> 02:17:39,719
my god.

2880
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 2: THAT was, well i, mean come on that. Warranted fifteen.

2881
02:17:44,239 --> 02:17:50,680
Minutes Uh yeah john hollinger had the best take ON it,

2882
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:52,799
that I saw and i already. Related to, you, Whereas

2883
02:17:52,799 --> 02:17:56,120
said uh blazer's ownership not beating the charges with this

2884
02:17:56,280 --> 02:18:01,879
one one guaranteed here? Two team, options uh tough not.

2885
02:18:02,120 --> 02:18:04,280
Not not Good good For. MIKE and nori i, guess

2886
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:06,200
you know there's only so many. Of these jobs you

2887
02:18:06,239 --> 02:18:08,959
got to take them when. They come open he kind

2888
02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:10,440
of been towards the front of the line for. A

2889
02:18:10,479 --> 02:18:15,440
long time you don't love this as a precedent if

2890
02:18:15,479 --> 02:18:17,920
you're if YOU'RE an. Aspiring nba coach.

2891
02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:20,879
Speaker 1: The postgame Presser, is in portland and even maybe some

2892
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:23,600
of the mid game ones just got. A whole lot you, Could,

2893
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:26,559
say that sure. THERE'S your winners, I will say I

2894
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:28,719
Know what john Hollander Said about tom dunnan is not.

2895
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,319
Beating the charges anyone who hasn't it go back and

2896
02:18:31,479 --> 02:18:34,040
Listen To the portland trailblazers OFFSEASON look ahead I Did

2897
02:18:34,120 --> 02:18:37,200
with danny mrang because, even in market he's Not. Beating

2898
02:18:37,239 --> 02:18:40,079
the chargers these are people that are like they're following

2899
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:43,680
covering this. Team every day this is just he's willing

2900
02:18:43,719 --> 02:18:45,879
to invest, In, players though grant so this is totally

2901
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:49,920
okay and it's not a. Bad omen WHATSOEVER well, it's

2902
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:50,600
i mean.

2903
02:18:51,680 --> 02:18:53,120
Speaker 2: We don't need to go too, long on this but

2904
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:55,799
it's like the worst thing you can be is a. Lame.

2905
02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:58,719
Duck coach right coaches get fired all the time before

2906
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,120
they get to their last year of their deal because

2907
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:03,840
the thinking conventionally, has been forever like players tune out

2908
02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:05,319
a guy that they don't think is. Gonna be there

2909
02:19:05,399 --> 02:19:09,239
it's like they're starting day one with with this with

2910
02:19:09,399 --> 02:19:13,719
the coach that like that's, a real if if that's,

2911
02:19:13,760 --> 02:19:17,239
a real thing which seems, Like it is like aren't

2912
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:19,879
you just undermining? The WHOLE DEAL Like i i and

2913
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:22,559
it's gotta have a negative, Knock on effect and what

2914
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:23,520
are you like.

2915
02:19:23,639 --> 02:19:25,799
Speaker 1: And you do this because? What you're not no one's

2916
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:28,399
gonna applaud you for winning. The press conference like team

2917
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:30,360
when they get players to take. A team option if

2918
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:33,399
you have a coach with team options alls that conveys

2919
02:19:33,520 --> 02:19:36,239
is you're cheap and or don't have. Faith, in him

2920
02:19:36,760 --> 02:19:37,760
well and like?

2921
02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:41,239
Speaker 2: At what cost what? Are you saving like like a

2922
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:44,479
minimum sal a minute of, Vet minimum salary like that's

2923
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:46,760
what that's what you're gonna take this pr hit for

2924
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,799
and potentially like tune your players out in training camp for,

2925
02:19:50,079 --> 02:19:54,600
like THE calculator like i the it doesn't the. Math doesn't.

2926
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:56,559
Work it doesn't it doesn't. Make any sense.

2927
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:58,959
Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to save Up For that danny avdya

2928
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:01,719
or renegotiating extent next summer that they're definitely. Not gonna do.

2929
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:07,079
Speaker 2: That will be, the next thing right, like if well

2930
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:08,040
who knows what the next.

2931
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:10,520
Speaker 1: Time they don't make any They're Linked to, anthony davis

2932
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:13,440
still which doesn't make any. Sense, To me uh and

2933
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:15,479
they probably can't get Him because the wizards are gonna

2934
02:20:15,479 --> 02:20:18,319
want to give him the maximum contract, Allowed an, extension

2935
02:20:18,319 --> 02:20:21,280
i'm sure but they were, in on y'all like, THEY'RE

2936
02:20:21,399 --> 02:20:24,440
just so i don't know what's GOING on with i not.

2937
02:20:24,479 --> 02:20:25,440
A fair look i also.

2938
02:20:25,559 --> 02:20:28,280
Speaker 2: DON'T go ahead i was in a good luck attracting

2939
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:31,639
good assistants like who are even lower down the totem

2940
02:20:31,639 --> 02:20:33,200
Pole and like i'm gonna move my whole LIFE to

2941
02:20:33,319 --> 02:20:35,159
make i don't know what assistance just start?

2942
02:20:35,319 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 1: Like very much Are we gonna does this start a

2943
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:41,079
cycle of undercutting among assistants and first time coaches who

2944
02:20:41,239 --> 02:20:46,680
just want that foot? IN the door, I, MEAN yeah, like,

2945
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:47,559
i mean well.

2946
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:50,040
Speaker 2: HERE'S the THING i think i would hope that the

2947
02:20:50,079 --> 02:20:53,559
backlash to this is so strong that like most, owners,

2948
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:56,559
just realize oh that's we can't, Be Like sorry adam

2949
02:20:56,600 --> 02:20:59,959
Silver Said that tom dunnan can't be cheap because he paid.

2950
02:21:00,079 --> 02:21:03,079
So much, money for sure this team sure thought that

2951
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:04,920
because he's backed by people who are richer, than him

2952
02:21:04,959 --> 02:21:07,600
either that that was able. To be possible recent events.

2953
02:21:08,799 --> 02:21:13,040
Conflict with, That, recent EVENTS yeah that I good For.

2954
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:16,479
Speaker 1: MIKE and Norri i guess, I'm just yeah i'm surprised

2955
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,200
they Even got Like jeff fan gunny to an interview.

2956
02:21:18,280 --> 02:21:19,879
For that job if this is, just like that is

2957
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:22,079
that what happened in the interviews and they were just offering.

2958
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:24,319
Speaker 2: Him like nineteen ninety three salaries, and, he's like. Oh,

2959
02:21:24,360 --> 02:21:24,959
pretty good.

2960
02:21:26,959 --> 02:21:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah but with no gut and then the team options

2961
02:21:28,799 --> 02:21:32,760
probably would probably would didn't do you have anything else.

2962
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 2: WE'VE gone for i can't IMAGINE what else i could

2963
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:36,840
possibly have to say.

2964
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:38,959
Speaker 1: At this point thank you for everyone who's.

2965
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:43,799
Speaker 2: Stuck with, Us good numbers so thanks, everybody for, Listening for, watching,

2966
02:21:43,879 --> 02:21:46,639
remember rate. Review and subscribe the best way to support

2967
02:21:46,639 --> 02:21:48,319
The pod is dan mentioned, at the top which if

2968
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:50,959
you've made it from the, top to now you're. The

2969
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:52,040
true heroes.

2970
02:21:51,959 --> 02:21:54,879
Speaker 1: Imagine having listened to all this ad, free to out

2971
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:56,799
think of the time you.

2972
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,840
Speaker 2: Would have saved and if you had been a Member,

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of our patreon which you can do at patreon Dot COM,

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slash hardwoodknocks nba you could. Have done that the time.

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Saved priceless really in addition, to all that you get

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a couple bonus. Episodes a month we're gonna record One.

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Of those monday not sure when, that'll come out but

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you won't hear it ever if you're, not A subscriber so.

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I like that there's one way discounts on our. Showing

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our discord you get access to That as a patreon.

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Member as well thanks for that. YouTube podcast DESCRIPTION i think.

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I covered EVERYTHING i hope i didn't, rant Too Hard.

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Shouts frank Milikena Apologies to jared allen