WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:20.960 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, 2 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:26.760 how are you. This week we're looking at divination divination tools. 3 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:30.559 In the past, we have talked about and had authors 4 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:35.560 talk about astrology using the ruins. Those are the stones 5 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:40.240 that you toss iching the Toureau cards. We haven't had 6 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.240 anybody speak on the Ouiji board because the Ouigi board 7 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.719 has been around over one hundred years. But when I 8 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.560 say divination tools, this is a way to connect with 9 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:53.479 our higher wisdom. We have questions about our direction. We 10 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:59.880 have questions about work, relationships, problems that we just cannot solve. 11 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:05.719 And in the hustle and bustle of our lives, you know, 12 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:13.120 working relationships, kids, family obligation, obligations, it can blur our thinking, 13 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.040 it can blur our vision. And today we're going to 14 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:19.400 present a new divination tool. It's not new, it's been 15 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.760 around for over one hundred years, very very old, and 16 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:28.560 this is pendulums. And this is a way to really 17 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:33.480 zero in on what's best for you, what your higher wisdom. 18 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.159 That can be your higher self, it can be your guidance, 19 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.359 It can be connecting with the if you want to 20 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.799 call them angels or special beings that are surrounding you 21 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:50.400 in this in this incarnation, to get insight, to get 22 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.280 an inner knowledge that is beyond your comprehension, beyond your 23 00:01:55.319 --> 00:02:01.760 ability to focus on because again it's been blurred. Your 24 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.439 ability to make rational decisions at some point in your 25 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:11.520 life could be blurred by the pressures, by depression, by 26 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.360 just feeling just having a sense of unknowing. And you 27 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.759 want to zero in on an answer, and a pendulum 28 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:23.080 is a really great way to say, to find a 29 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:26.879 yes or no question. And also I found when I 30 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:32.039 use my pendulum, you could have a maybe. And typically 31 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:38.759 a pendulum is a crystal, it could be a copper 32 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.240 or gold or a silver, semi precious precious metal piece 33 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.879 of jewelry that has a point on it, and it's 34 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.439 connected to a chain. And you hold the pendulum in 35 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:56.080 one hand, you close your eyes, and you ask a question, 36 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.280 and out of the blue, the pendulum will start moving 37 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.680 either forward and backward, which can be yes, or sideways, 38 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.919 which is a no. That's how I work it, That's 39 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.319 how my higher wisdom says, Okay, buddy, this is what 40 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.919 we're gonna say to you, and you can actually form 41 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:18.479 some fairly serious questions about your life and get a 42 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:23.759 basic answer. Now you don't go out in complete a task, 43 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:29.599 or make a serious investment or sign a contract without 44 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.280 a little more information. But the pendulum begins helping you 45 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:40.520 focus down into a question, a situation, a problem that 46 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:45.800 you're unable to resolve at that time. I use pendulums 47 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.680 when I have a problem or a question that seems 48 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.240 fuzzy and you have to quiet your mind. You just 49 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.560 don't pull out a pendulum and start working with it 50 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:59.560 when you're sitting in a passenger seat of a car, 51 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.599 because you have to have quiet. You have to have 52 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.800 no movement, because you have to give the body and 53 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.759 the connection, because what you're doing is you're plugging into 54 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.240 the higher wisdom a chance to respond to you. And 55 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.879 if you're moving around, if you're in a busy place, 56 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:22.399 if you are distracted by music, by noise, by the 57 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.680 ambience of wherever you're located, it's not going to work 58 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.160 and you can't plug in. Part of a pendulum is 59 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.519 also dowsing. You can use dowsing where you're looking for water. 60 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.319 You hold two metal rods in each hand, and you're 61 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.759 moving and you're closing your eyes and you're asking for 62 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:46.279 connection with it can be water. You're searching for water, 63 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.439 you're searching for a location. Some people use pendulums to 64 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:57.160 find artifacts, so and that's another way to dows. But 65 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:02.519 today we're talking about pendulums and intuition, and this is 66 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:06.399 very important because the intuition is the critical part of 67 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:11.959 our sense, one of our senses that we can use 68 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:18.279 to improve our existence. We can get answers. And when 69 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:22.399 we use a pendulum, that's the way to go. We're 70 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:27.600 actually focusing in on our higher self, this higher wisdom 71 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:33.319 that we were born with. So today's program is pendulum's 72 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:39.199 and intuition, practical advice for trusting your inner wisdom. And 73 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:45.920 my guest is Katrina Miller. Hey, you probably hear about 74 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.959 all these amazing locations, these ancient sites we visit on Earth, 75 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.759 ancients and here on Destiny, but I got to tell 76 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.360 you there's nothing like being there in person. And we 77 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.439 have a number of tours that we schedule every year, 78 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.600 some in far lands like Turkey and Egypt, but some 79 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.720 are closer to home, like Mexico. 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We have another 99 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.720 interesting show today. It deals with intuition and pendulums, and 100 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:04.079 we haven't spoken about pendulums really ever here on Destiny 101 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.199 and they are a tool that I believe, and we'll 102 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.519 learn more about it today with our guests that go 103 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.519 back very very far. My guest today is Katrina Mueller 104 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.920 and she is the co founder of art Centric Divine Creations, 105 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:27.399 a pendulum and coaching collaborative, and she's actually it's interesting 106 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.279 we were just talking. She came from corporate world and 107 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:37.200 followed her heart and developed this company. And I have, 108 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.480 like I mentioned, I haven't had anybody speak about metaphysical tools. 109 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.720 We'll just call that metaphysical spiritual tools like pendulum. So 110 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:49.960 I'm looking forward to this interview. So Katrina, welcome to Destiny. 111 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:50.679 Great to see you. 112 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.840 Thanks Cliff. I'm super excited to be here talk about 113 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:59.759 pendulums and how everyone can use them to really live 114 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:00.639 their life. 115 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:04.120 Let's get into it. So here, you are working in 116 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:08.519 the corporate world nine to five, all that goes with that. 117 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.919 What shifted you to the point where you decided to 118 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:16.840 leave that and began working with pendulums and creating your own, 119 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:20.559 your own company with your partner at Lana. 120 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.000 Yeah, I had a great question, Thanks for asking. Yeah, 121 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:30.960 I spent over three decades in corporate I have an MBA. 122 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.600 I am what you would call your classically trained marketer. 123 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.679 I worked for a lot of consumer package goods companies, 124 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:45.159 marketed a ton of food, and I went out on 125 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.879 my own as a consultant over a decade and a 126 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.480 half ago because lots of different reasons, I wanted a 127 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:55.240 little bit more flexibility in my life, and I also 128 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.240 really truly wanted to make a difference and build stronger 129 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.440 relationships with my clients. So I became an independent consultant. 130 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.679 But the work that I did was essentially the same 131 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.080 as I did as a you know, marketing director, and 132 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:17.120 I continued to work with a ton of C level executives. 133 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:22.120 And as I go in, I go on site to companies, 134 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:27.000 and as I go in there, I would always establish 135 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.759 a really strong bond and a really good relationship with 136 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.799 my clients. So not only was I solving their business 137 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:38.360 problems or helping them develop their next growth strategy, I 138 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:43.279 also became their coach. I became their business coach, I 139 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:48.159 became their life coach. I helped them navigate the issues 140 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:49.360 with the board of directors. 141 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.919 This more you were working in the corporate world m hm, 142 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:57.720 So you actually developed more of a personal relationship interesting 143 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:58.919 with my clients. 144 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:02.879 Yeah, so I'm looking you know, I'm looking at you know, 145 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:06.519 what I've been doing. And the parts of my work 146 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:10.279 that was the most satisfying were the coaching pieces, Like 147 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:15.279 when I really truly helped my clients not just drive 148 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.399 business growth, I was able to help them transform their lives, 149 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.399 not just their professional lives. But you got to look 150 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.519 at the whole person, right, so you've got to be 151 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.159 able to help them, you know, with all aspects. So 152 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.679 I was always like that safe space, right, Like I'm comming, 153 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.559 I'm a consultant. I'm safe to work with because I'm 154 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.720 not really playing politics. I'm not out to get anybody's 155 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.480 corporate job, so it's easy to confide in me, right. 156 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:49.879 So I loved coaching people to really get to their truth, 157 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.799 to understand what their values are and how to live 158 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.480 their life, their business, their professional life, and their personal 159 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:03.240 life from their heart center, from a place of you know, 160 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.399 the values that really truly matter to them. And it's 161 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:07.759 a brave thing to do because you know, we're so 162 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.120 conditioned by society to not do that. 163 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.919 Yeah, I have to say that it's interesting to hear 164 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:19.200 how you went beyond just the business of numbers and 165 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:24.360 getting the client's business to being on a more of 166 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.240 a personal and I'm interesting to hear what that means, 167 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:32.120 more of a personal relationship. Are you sitting there across 168 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:34.679 the desk from them and going, what's going on with 169 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.440 you today? What's going on with your mind? I mean, 170 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.639 because that's kind of personally So you have to have 171 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.559 a unique clients to kind of say, hey, will you 172 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.000 shut up? I don't want to talk about that. 173 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.440 Well, you know what, they're the ones to start offering 174 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.279 it up because oh, okay, yeah, because I just I'm 175 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.120 that safe space like I come in, I'm not judging. 176 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.240 I am clearly there to be of service, and I 177 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.159 am there to help transform their business, but I'm also 178 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.679 there to help transform their life. 179 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.000 In your relationship where they're kind of feeling I can talk, 180 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.919 I can I can open up to her, right, which 181 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.519 is kind of cool, which means that you are a shaman, 182 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:18.080 aren't you? 183 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:20.639 Maybe in a past life? 184 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.240 Yeah, I'm kind of teasing you, right. 185 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:27.759 Who knows. I just I just love to make a difference. Yeah, 186 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.320 And when I can make a difference, that's beyond the business. 187 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.080 That is so much more rewarding to me. And when 188 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.480 I realized that I was so drawn to the coaching 189 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:46.360 aspect of my business practice, I decided that I am 190 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.120 going to go and become legitimate. I'm going to go 191 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:53.480 get certified as a life coach. And the perfect time 192 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:55.879 to do that was during the pandemic. 193 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.879 Yeah I read that interest right, Yeah. 194 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:04.120 So I signed up to get my certification. Everything was 195 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:09.639 over zoom, and I'm taking my certification classes and there's 196 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.559 all these other great people that are meeting meetings through 197 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.720 this program over Zoom, and one of those people was 198 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.480 my business partner, Lana, and we just started like we 199 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.279 were I think divinely guided to just kind of, you know, 200 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.440 get together and start collaborating because we were being placed 201 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.519 in breakout sessions together when we were getting our life 202 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:34.720 coaching certifications and it's like, oh, it's you again, Hello. 203 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:41.279 So when we could actually meet in person, we started collaborating. 204 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.320 From a professional standpoint, We're like, Okay, now that we're 205 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:49.399 both certified life coaches, let's help each other and build 206 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:53.759 out our coaching practices and do some do some corporate work. 207 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.840 And so we started doing that. We started doing corporate coaching, 208 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.759 and I think there was a time where I was 209 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.919 trying to make a decision and Lana I asked me, 210 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.799 have you ever thought of using a pendulum to help 211 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.240 you make your decision? And I looked at her and 212 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:18.080 I say, what is a pendulum? And so she showed 213 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.799 me using like her necklace. Was anything weighted on a 214 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:26.399 string and be a pendulum? She showed me what you 215 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.559 how to use a pendulum? How do you calibrated for 216 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.759 you yes, movement, for your move no movement? And then 217 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:37.000 how do you ask questions? And one of our hobbies 218 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:42.200 at that point was to make beaded bracelets just for fun, 219 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.679 because we wanted to take a break and just do 220 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:49.320 some crafts. So I'm like, you know, think you now, 221 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.000 I got all these crystal and jumped one beads, I'm 222 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.639 gonna go like figure it out. I'm gonna go make 223 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.320 a pendulum. So I bought some craft supplies. I made 224 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.320 a pendulum for her. I made a pendulu for me. 225 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.519 I'm like, now we can ask all the questions. So 226 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.639 we started making them for fun, just for fun, and 227 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.240 our friends and family got really curious, what is this? 228 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.080 And before you know it, you know we're making them 229 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.919 for friends and family and we were asked to do 230 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.720 some trunk shows and pop ups at like local boutiques 231 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.200 and galleries and we're like, okay, we could try this, 232 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:31.080 this this could be kind of fun. And we tried 233 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:37.320 it and realized that people were really really curious, and 234 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:39.440 they were able, and they were willing to pay a 235 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:45.679 bunch of money for a pendulum, and they wanted not 236 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.039 just a pendulum, but you know the real reason was 237 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.159 that they wanted a pendulum was because they wanted to 238 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:58.919 create a connection with themselves, create this bond in a 239 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:03.360 way to go within and really truly figure out what 240 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.160 is their truth. That is the biggest thing we noticed. 241 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.720 So we're like, okay, how can we shift our business 242 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.119 where we can help as many people as we can 243 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.680 find their truths. Because when people find their truth, and 244 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.599 when people are ready to act on their truth and 245 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:30.480 live their life from a place of their sovereign selves, 246 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.240 the world becomes a better place. 247 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:41.319 Amazing. What is a pendulum? Talk about the intricacies of it, 248 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.880 and as you're describing it, also describe the kinds of 249 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.039 pendulums there are. 250 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.039 Yeah, well, you know, anything weighted on a strain can 251 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:57.480 be a pendulum. You can make your own pendulum. You 252 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.960 could buy a pendulum on Amazon, you could buy a 253 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.680 pendulum from heart Centric, anything weighted on a strength in 254 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:12.279 a pendulum. What we truly believe is that you want 255 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:17.039 to have a strong connection with your pendulum because it 256 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.559 becomes an extension of you. It is your tool to 257 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:26.400 tap into your intuitive wisdom and develop your superpower, which 258 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.799 is your intuition. And when you're drawn to your pendulum, 259 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.839 when you're connected to it, you tend to want to 260 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.279 use it. If you're not connected to your pendulum, it'll 261 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.880 probably sit in your drawer and you're probably not going 262 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.960 to do anything with it. But the thing, the crazy 263 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:47.599 thing that Lana and I have learned, is that your 264 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:54.759 pendulum finds you. So we have done literally hundreds of 265 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.440 events in person, events where we watched over and over 266 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:03.640 and over. Our pendulums have basically like jumped into our 267 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.160 customer's hands where the minute they pick them up, they're like, 268 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.160 this is going home with me, doesn't matter what the 269 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:13.519 price is. I'm super connected. I need this, this is 270 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:16.519 my tool. So that's the biggest piece. It's just like, 271 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.839 don't underestimate the importance of having a strong connection with 272 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.680 your pendulum, and it could be one that you make yourself, 273 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:26.640 but it's just a tool that you want to be 274 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.359 able to go to again and again. I use mine 275 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.079 all day long. 276 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.960 Some of the classic Turn of the century pendulums are 277 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:41.839 just metal with copper tips and pieces of on a chain. Yeah. 278 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:47.480 How far back to pendulums go? How far back have 279 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:52.400 you found references to pendulums in history? 280 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.440 You know, we kept digging and digging, and we just 281 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.680 you realized that we could go back, as you know 282 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:06.599 too before like written history. Because pendulums are also tools 283 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:11.559 that have been used in conjunction with the dowsing rods 284 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:19.920 to dowsing, yeah, dowsing, Yeah, to dows for underwater resources 285 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.400 such as such as our underground resources such as water 286 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:28.319 or minerals you could dowse for for you know, you've 287 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.359 if you've heard of people dowsing with water to be 288 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.000 able to figure out how to where to dig a 289 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:39.880 well that has been around, you know, clearly for thousands 290 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:43.759 of years, because then you know how people find water 291 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:49.960 if it wasn't with tools such as dowsing rods so 292 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:55.680 or other minerals. And it's just it's a way of 293 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:01.480 our body acting as an antenna and receiving a signal 294 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:08.079 that is completely not perceptible to our conscious mind. So 295 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:10.720 it's one of those things that's just like what is 296 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:15.240 going on, But if you are open to it and 297 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.200 you're receptive to it, you receive a signal and you 298 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:23.480 find underwater underground resources like minerals or water or whatever 299 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.359 it is that you are searching for. So you know, 300 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.960 those tools have been around for thousands of years. I mean, 301 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:35.960 they've been used in wars to find like underground tunnels, 302 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:43.200 They've been really by police forces to find missing people. 303 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.359 You know, finding missing objects is one of those things 304 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:53.680 that you know, people have used pendulums for forever. They're 305 00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:00.079 the uses are really truly like so extensive and endless. 306 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:08.000 And where we tend to focus in is kind of 307 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.039 getting people at their like early on in their journey 308 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:16.000 to themselves. And what I mean by that is like 309 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:19.359 it's like, you're curious, you want to develop your intuitive mobilities, 310 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.160 you don't quite know where to start. You've heard about 311 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.720 clairvoyance or clear cognizance, you don't really know what it is, 312 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:27.720 but you are just ready to take the next step 313 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.319 of your journey. So what we do is we catch 314 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.480 people that like at that moment where they're curious and 315 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.319 they're willing to try something new, and we use them 316 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.000 to really truly help people connect to their intuition. So 317 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.039 what we teach is not doubting. We feel like there's 318 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:49.200 other people, there's pros who can do that. We teach 319 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:55.240 people the pendulum basics of how to program your pendulum 320 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.920 for your yes movement and your no movement so that 321 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.240 you can see you can ask all kinds of questions. 322 00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:03.519 You can ask a question, is it optimal for me 323 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.119 to order pizza for dinner tonight? You'll get a yes 324 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:12.119 or no. So whatever your question is, it could be 325 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.200 a small as is it a good idea for me 326 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.079 to go to the Starbucks strive for you to get 327 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:21.119 coffee this morning? Or is it time for me to 328 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.680 quit my nine to five job and start my own business. 329 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.559 You can go as shallow or deep as you want to. 330 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.759 The answers are already within you and this is just 331 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:36.240 a matter of you extracting your truth through the power 332 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:37.519 of your intuitive wisdom. 333 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:45.960 Let's talk about the action of a pendulum. The body, 334 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:54.279 the human, the user is the I don't know how 335 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:58.759 you describe the action, and then the pendulum is the 336 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:06.440 tool to present the data. So it's the title of 337 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.279 the book is Pendulums and Intuition. So, by the way, 338 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.200 the subtitle is practical Advice for trusting your inner wisdom. 339 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:19.680 So talk about how the two interact with each other, 340 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:24.279 and how the the what where the data is coming from, 341 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.160 the answers, the questions, the whatever you want to get. 342 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:32.200 Yes, a good, good question, because we get asked this 343 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:39.039 all the time. So imagine your conscious mind versus your subconscious. Right, 344 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:43.240 So you're subconscious, it just it runs all your programming. 345 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.519 You don't think about breathing. Your subconscious is running back 346 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.400 for you. When you're driving your car. You're not really 347 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.079 thinking about it. You know how to do what you've 348 00:24:51.119 --> 00:25:04.720 been programmed to do it. So your subconscious stores all 349 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:10.200 your experiences, all your learnings, every class you've taken, every 350 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.119 book you've read, every conversation you've ever had, every emotion 351 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:18.519 you felt. All of that data is inside of us. 352 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:25.720 But our conscious mind cannot easily tap into that wealth 353 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:31.119 of knowledge that is available to us already for every 354 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:35.160 day decision making. Our conscious mind is ego driven. It's 355 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:39.880 going to send us on this analysis journey. Is this 356 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.039 a good idea, do I go here? Do I not 357 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.680 go here? What if this happens? What if that happens? Right? 358 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:47.519 And then we make a decision and sometimes we tend 359 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.640 to regret it or wonder did we make a right decision? Well, 360 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:52.440 what if you never had to do that because you 361 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.119 tapped into your truth and just knew that the decision 362 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.960 you were making was the right decision for you. So 363 00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:02.240 what a pendulum really does taps into that repository of 364 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.119 the information that you already have stored within you and 365 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:09.519 your subconscious It's a matter of really truly knowing how 366 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.799 to ask the questions the right way. And when you 367 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:21.559 tap in, what happens is you are sending this signal. 368 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:28.200 It's an imperceptible signal that you are completely unaware of, 369 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.519 but it sends it through your arm as you're holding 370 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:35.200 your pendulum. It's called the idiomotor reflex, and it sends 371 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:41.279 a signal to have the pendulum move a certain way 372 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.640 to answer your question. So, at the very basic level, 373 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.720 your answers can be yes or no. Your answers could 374 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:54.839 be also maybe, or your answers could be not now, 375 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.640 which means you're not ready to receive that information. So 376 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:06.599 as default, you will be asking your questions and the 377 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.319 answer will come from your sub conscious. 378 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.039 Now is there You're talking about the subconscious, but are 379 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:18.279 there other influences like your higher self entities that are 380 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:23.359 surrounded you, like your guidance, your keepers. 381 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:30.160 Yeah, that come too. Yes. So here's the here's the difference. 382 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.720 So when I said, as a default, you will be 383 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.799 connecting with your subconscious and a lot of our you know, 384 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:39.640 people that we talked to, a lot of our customers 385 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.200 are like, Okay, this is what I'm comfortable with, and 386 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:49.079 they're not necessarily ready to go beyond. If they're comfortable 387 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.400 to go beyond. And you want to connect with your 388 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.319 higher self, you want to connect with your guides, you 389 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:03.240 want to connect with your angelic team. All you have 390 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.359 to do is invite them, and you can do that 391 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.640 with your pendulum. Just say it with your intention. I'm 392 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:17.519 inviting my optimal divine team to connect with me during 393 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.440 my pendulum session and ask them if they are there 394 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.599 with you, and you will get an answer. You will 395 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.680 get a movement that's a yes or not. Every time 396 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.759 I've done that, I always have gotten a yes. 397 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:30.799 Yeah. 398 00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.960 So my advice is, if that's who you want the 399 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.240 source of your answers to come from, intentionally invite them. 400 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.799 Go through your pendulum session, go through all your questions, 401 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.000