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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His

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<v Speaker 1>name across the table from me is Tim Duckworth. Looking amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, guys, this guy is keeping TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>e commerce in business. He's got a pink I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what is on this sweatsheet ready yet, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know. I mean, it's definitely yeah, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a Halloween slash scary movie themed, which is fitting because

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<v Speaker 1>it is October third, we are in the month of Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. I guess a big episode today,

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<v Speaker 1>not many topics, but I'm assuming we're gonna have some

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<v Speaker 1>strong opinions, maybe some debate back and forth. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>World Poker Tour finally announced its and I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>should use quotation marks here guarantee, so we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the conclusion to WPT Australia, so sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>the World Poke Tour brand, we'll hit on WPT Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>That took place, and then some some big events happened

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<v Speaker 1>online that we want to hit on. W s AP

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<v Speaker 1>bracelets were handed out and we have a massive four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar winner that was part of it. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>w s AP Bracelet season here in the US, so

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<v Speaker 1>the Bracelet's never stop. It's WSP Europe. It's this WP

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<v Speaker 1>that so WPT and WSP are the big topics on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. This episode of the Poker Gol Podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by the Poker Stars NAPT. The NAPT

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<v Speaker 1>returns to Las Vegas in just under one month's time

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<v Speaker 1>November one through tenth at Resorts World. The series is

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<v Speaker 1>headlined by the fifty three hundred dollars buying three million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar guaranteed main event schedule has buyings from two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars all the way up to twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, so there is something for everyone to learn more.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can visit Pokerstarslive dot com slash NAPT slash

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. Again, that's PokerStars Live dot com slash NAPT

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<v Speaker 1>slash Las Vegas. And for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>listening from Michigan, Pennsylvania or New Jersey, be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>check out the Poker Stars Lobby on the daily for

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<v Speaker 1>qualifiers and chances to win gold passes to NAPT Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and I are planning on being there at NAPT

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas, and we hope to see you guys there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are there and you see us and you're

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<v Speaker 1>a listener of this podcast, come talk to us. We

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<v Speaker 1>love to meet the listeners. It's a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to hear you know who's out there. All Right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go WPT's announcement. It's here, Free roll baby, five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars free roll. That's the big announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll quickly set the table and then we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just dive into it. So we had been waiting, waiting, waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about it many times on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what is the WPT gonna do for its

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<v Speaker 1>World Championship guarantee? Are they going to run it back

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<v Speaker 1>with forty million? Are they going to decrease it? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any chance that they go higher? What did you say?

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<v Speaker 1>You said fifty said, yeah, you're nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Not nuts. You asked me what would I do it

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<v Speaker 2>if I was king for today, and I said I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't match it, I wouldn't go.

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<v Speaker 1>So they finally announced what they're doing, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>are doing is a five million dollar free roll that

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<v Speaker 1>is a marketing promotion for their new endeavor Club WPT Gold.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is different than the regular club WPT that

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<v Speaker 1>has been around for quite some time. We'll discuss exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, but that's that. That was the big announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>a five million dollar free roll, what they are calling

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<v Speaker 1>the largest free roll of all time in poker history,

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<v Speaker 1>however you want to classify it. I believe that that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know of any free role that was bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But it's interesting that they're they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming with that that marketing message because I'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little later.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That also comes with the announcement, or maybe lack of

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement, that there isn't a guarantee on the ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars World Championship. So all the eggs are essentially

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<v Speaker 1>in this basket of this Club WPT Gold five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar free roll. It seems to be the heavy marketing push.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that you see on all the WPT channels, from

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<v Speaker 1>all the WPT ambassadors, all that sort of stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>free roll, free roll, free roll, five million dollars. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be qualifying all these people into it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're doing that on the back end of things,

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<v Speaker 1>no guarantee for the World Championship. So I guess let's

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<v Speaker 1>take it back to when this was announced, what a

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half ago or so, you see this

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<v Speaker 1>news come across you know, what's what's your initial thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, if you can try and like go

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<v Speaker 1>back a few days we are we are recording this

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know, eight nine days after that news

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<v Speaker 1>initial dropped, so we've had some time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think about things. But but going back to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what were your like first thoughts, like were you wowed,

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<v Speaker 1>were you surprised? Were you let down? Like what was

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<v Speaker 1>what was the feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think my feelings would be pretty similar

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone else in the world. I think we'll surprise

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<v Speaker 2>there was no guarantee let down as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the free roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, but what I'm about to say was that,

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<v Speaker 2>but they gave you this other little thing present side

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<v Speaker 2>event free roll that was you know, tried to soften

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<v Speaker 2>the blow, I would say, And I think it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible idea. I just wish that was a guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>on the moment, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess my my initial thoughts were, Wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think they would do no guarantee on the World Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was of the opinion that they would

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<v Speaker 1>scallop back. I did not think that they would scalop

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<v Speaker 1>back to zero. But it's a pretty big bet.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, scaling back to zero better than scaling back

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<v Speaker 2>to say, fifteen million.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion. No, I think you should have just

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<v Speaker 1>gone with fifteen million. I mean I would have gone

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<v Speaker 1>with more than fifteen million, but I think twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, would have been the number. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like with when you do something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so oftentimes in everything, you know, people are

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<v Speaker 1>so concerned about spinning some sort of message or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly lying or whatever. Not that not that wt's line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of using a general example when in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the correct thing to do is just apologize

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<v Speaker 1>and move on in a way, or just like admit

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<v Speaker 1>defeat and move on, or say you were wrong and

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<v Speaker 1>move on. In this, like in a lot of cases,

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, real life stuff, if you just say

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<v Speaker 1>you're sorry and move on, fine. In a case like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a poker guarantee, which doesn't involve any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of apologizing. Just be like, listen, we shot for the

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<v Speaker 1>moon at forty million, we missed. Maybe we got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too ahead of ourselves. We're gonna pull it back,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're still going to give you something really great.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's twenty five or here's thirty, right, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is extremely achievable given one the turnout that they had

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<v Speaker 1>last year. You know, all the brand power that WPT has,

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<v Speaker 1>all the loyalty that people express towards WPT, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also from everything that I could tell, all the qualifiers

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to have for this thing. So from

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been told, they're still going to qualify it.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I've been told. And also, if you've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the car wash that Adam Pliska has been on,

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<v Speaker 1>He's done every single podcast under the sun. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to one, you listen to them all.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I've listened to all of them, you have,

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<v Speaker 1>I've listened to three of them. Yeah, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>same thing over and over again. So if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to them one, you listen to them all. The number

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<v Speaker 1>that they're putting out there that he's putting out there

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<v Speaker 1>is right around one thousand qualifiers. I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really solid floor. I part of me doesn't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>that number isn't being emphasized more, but I also get

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<v Speaker 1>it because you're not trying to achieve a guarantee this time,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't need to emphasize it. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also team promote that stuff because it house built.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but I'm saying in this specific situation, when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a guarantee that you need to hit,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that guarantee is fifteen million, so you would

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<v Speaker 1>need to achieve you know, approximately fifteen hundred players, you

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<v Speaker 1>would still want to push it, right, But if your

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee is zero and it doesn't matter what the prize

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<v Speaker 1>pool is, then you just go all in on the

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<v Speaker 1>free roll. So about this free roll. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard already, you've absolutely been living under a rock because

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<v Speaker 1>it's everywhere. If you follow the World Over Tour, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure many of you do, or if you follow

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<v Speaker 1>any of their ambassadors, any of their you know, WPT

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<v Speaker 1>family members, et cetera, this is all they've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about for the past you know, week and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what they should be doing now, what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you head on over to WPT dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find an article that's everything you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>about the Club WPT Gold Free Role. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this information that I'm about to kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>over for what this free roll is is included in

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<v Speaker 1>that article. It's going to take place, this free roll

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars free role. It's actually five million and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars because they released that actually before we

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<v Speaker 1>hopped on this podcast, they released all the payout structures,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a big puzzle, but we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. December thirteenth through fifteenth at win Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously day one on the thirteenth and then

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<v Speaker 1>the final table on the fifteenth. Start times are currently TBA.

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<v Speaker 1>So Club WPT Gold is the WPT's new sweepstakes poker model.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're familiar with the Global Poker think of it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You go on to the platform, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually when it launches, which it says that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to launch an early twenty twenty five. You go on there,

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<v Speaker 1>you would buy some sort of currency, you would play

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<v Speaker 1>in that currency, and then on the back end, you

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<v Speaker 1>could event you know, convert that currency to some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of cash out, right. So that's what this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Now. One thing that I'll mention is that

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<v Speaker 1>from the people that I've talked to there, the regular

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<v Speaker 1>version of CLUBWPT is going to stay, which makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because those are extremely different player pools. You know. Club

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<v Speaker 1>WPT's regular model is you pay whatever it is, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month if I think the Diamond tier is

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars a month or whatever, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>just get access to whatever is available. Right. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is it's not real money gaming by definition because it's

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<v Speaker 1>sweepstakes model, but it's closer to real money gaming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's what Club WPT Gold is. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you are familiar with the global poker product, then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll probably like what's to come from WPT. From Club

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<v Speaker 1>WPT gold. It's a mouthful to say that over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>I should just call it gold. But anyway, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's interesting that it's WPD gold?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? Because of Game of Gold? So I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first things I thought of. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that so one club wpt gold I think is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean whatever, I don't. I don't. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>of that like you thought of it. What I did

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<v Speaker 1>think of though, is they specifically mentioned sweeps coins, which yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Global Poker uses, sweeps coins, right, And then

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<v Speaker 1>they also call this entry or ticket to this free

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<v Speaker 1>roll a golden passport, which I think gold pass for

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<v Speaker 1>poker stars. So like, I like, those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, it's not necessarily unique.

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<v Speaker 2>Gold im possible. It's pretty generic term like we use PG.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it, I get I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>is what's sweep sweep coins. I'm wondering if that's trademark.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have no idea. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know the gold of Pepoker uses. They have

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<v Speaker 1>gold coins and they have sweeps coins. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two areas that you can play in. The gold coins

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<v Speaker 1>are the completely freemium. The sweeps coins are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that are are the online currency model or however you

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<v Speaker 1>want to describe it. So this free roll, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a giveaway for these golden passports, where it

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<v Speaker 1>says nearly two thousand people are going to win a

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<v Speaker 1>golden passport to come out to Las Vegas to compete

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<v Speaker 1>in this club WPT gold five million dollar free roll.

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<v Speaker 1>First place is going to be one million dollars. Of

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<v Speaker 1>that five million, approximately twenty five percent of the field

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be paid. So five hundred and three

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<v Speaker 1>players is what they list in this article. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they say everyone who makes the money and busts will

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<v Speaker 1>have a second chance drawing where one in five will

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<v Speaker 1>draw one hundred free entries or one of one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>free entries into the ten thousand dollars WPT World Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>So from this free rule, I'll get it. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>just I know they said nearly two thousand, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say two thousands because it's just easier. So two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you have five hundred people are going to cash. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna have one hundred of those five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>are going to win a ten k seat to the

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<v Speaker 1>World Championship. So you have that. Okay, so you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>the floor of entries in the in the World Championship

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<v Speaker 1>is well it's.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred, right, No, but he you already mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't. I haven't been able to find out,

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<v Speaker 1>like exactly where all those other stuff coming. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're having like I'm assuming there's some live qualifiers. There's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously WPT Global is going to be satelliting people in.

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<v Speaker 1>I did look at the win schedule because the full

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<v Speaker 1>schedule is out now, by the way. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and forty satellites at the festival. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you include those two hundred and forty satellites ask

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<v Speaker 1>the festival, you include these one hundred qualifiers. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>three forty right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for a second, I thought you meant two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty individual satellites.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, no, but they have a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of satellites, but two hundred. Like they have like a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of twenty five seat guarantees. They brought back the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five seat guarantee, like you know, all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff is happening again. So from from what I counted,

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<v Speaker 1>it's two hundred and forty seats during the festival in December.

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<v Speaker 1>At Win they also have stuff like at this upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>win Fall Poker Classic, they have a satellite there and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's three seats guaranteed. If I remember correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm wrong, I apologize. But so that's where they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimately getting this number of one thousand SOT

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good floor overall. Now are they going to push

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<v Speaker 1>towards there? And thirty five inches is what they got

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<v Speaker 1>last year in the WT World Championship. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>had that forty million dollar guarantee that they missed on

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<v Speaker 1>by I think right around two and a half million

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<v Speaker 1>that the WPT had to eat as it pertains to

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<v Speaker 1>this club WPT Gold Free roll. Just getting back to that,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a mystery bounty format as well, where I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's at two hundred and ninety seven players remaining.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when like the mystery bounty format kicks in. There's

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<v Speaker 1>two forms of this mystery bounty. Okay, there's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty eight times the mystery bounties ranging from five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars to one thousand dollars. Then there are eight

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<v Speaker 1>mystery bounties for the final table reserved for the final table.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of those eight, sir, is zero dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Brutal, but I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the payouts for this thing, which we're announced today

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars up top second place two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars horrible, seems insane, but okay, third place one

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, then seventy five to fifty, forty thirty, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five twenty those are.

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<v Speaker 2>For the top facilitates chucks right, because it's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of miss guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>As I understand it, anyone is part of the eligible

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<v Speaker 1>jurisdictions in the US and Canada believe it is. Can

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<v Speaker 1>go to CLUBWPT gold dot com and just sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for a free account. You can put your information in.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and I both have have done it already and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be drawing people from there to win

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<v Speaker 1>these golden passports to then come out to Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and compete in this five million dollar free rold. There

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be other ways they've mentioned, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some social media giveaways and whatnot, which they've they've done

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<v Speaker 1>in the past as it relates to the WPT World Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>So if if you fancy yourself, you know, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>get into this five million dollar free role that they're

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<v Speaker 1>having and in I guess celebration of the new project

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<v Speaker 1>that is Club WPT Gold, then then head on over

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<v Speaker 1>to clubwpt gold dot com and just sign up part

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<v Speaker 1>of the mystery bounties. They're going to have two one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars bounties as top prizes. Everyone at the

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<v Speaker 1>final table gets a minimum of twenty thousand dollars, which

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<v Speaker 1>I already mentioned, and then there's their own pool of

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<v Speaker 1>mystery bounties for there, uh, you know, with the with

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<v Speaker 1>a two or three dollars mystery bounding up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean you could you could win the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>right and then also get some of these mystery boundies

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<v Speaker 1>and win more than a million dollars. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could come in second place, get the biggest mystery bounty

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<v Speaker 1>and then you you know, you have four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars. Is that how I understand it? So again,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is in celebration for the launch of

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<v Speaker 1>Club WPT Gold that is coming in what they've listed

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<v Speaker 1>as early twenty twenty five. I believe the exact line

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<v Speaker 1>is the site is expected to launch in early twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. I do find it interesting. So I've had

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<v Speaker 1>it's been again eight nine ten days or however since

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<v Speaker 1>this has been announced, and I've I've had some a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big tug of war in my head on how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel about all of this. So on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the the venture into the sweepstakes poker model

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<v Speaker 1>is good, but I have some questions. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, the WPT has always been notoriously conservative, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, like, what has finally been the motivation to

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<v Speaker 1>get in right Is it simply seeing the success of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like a global poker and they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a big enough brand, let's get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it's been no secret. You can

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, there's been a lot of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Global Poker, Chumbu Casino all owned by you know, VGW,

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<v Speaker 1>and and how much money that they've been pulling in

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<v Speaker 1>in revenue every single year. A lot of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>has been out there more recently in the news. So

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<v Speaker 1>is that kind of like one of the things where

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<v Speaker 1>WPT is looking at it and saying like, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get in there and get a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of this pie. The other side of me says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are they too late to the party, because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some pushback in the sweepstakes gambling world. You know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan has said, you guys can't operate here anymore, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. You know, So is is there going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some pushback? Is there going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>lobbying behind closed doors from real money gaming operators who

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<v Speaker 1>are required to like you know, jump through hoops to

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<v Speaker 1>get legalized in certain states and pay all these license fees,

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<v Speaker 1>these taxes and et cetera. Right, are they gonna then

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<v Speaker 1>lobby behind closed doors being like, hey, knock knock, government,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing letting these people get in here

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<v Speaker 1>and operate basically? And I don't know forty five plus

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<v Speaker 1>states or whatever it is, right, So like there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I where we sit right now, We

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<v Speaker 1>obviously don't have an answer to that. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>will say is that this could be the moment in

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<v Speaker 1>time where in five, ten, fifteen years, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>where we say we should have known and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>there are two sides that we should have known. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one we should have known that sweepstakes casinos, sweepstakes poker

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<v Speaker 1>were completely safe, just knowing how concern servative WPT has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the past, and they finally got in, so

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<v Speaker 1>they must feel it's worthwhile to get into this, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's safe enough to get into this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not going to be like some giant regulatory shutdown

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<v Speaker 1>like that's that's one side of things where we've been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have known, and we should have like other

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<v Speaker 1>companies should have been more willing to get into this

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<v Speaker 1>model because WBT got into it. The other side of

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<v Speaker 1>things is that, you know, are they too late to

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<v Speaker 1>the party? And like you're gonna be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>from that, you know, so should we have known at

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<v Speaker 1>the time that they're too late to the party, just

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<v Speaker 1>given the fact that there's been some increased talk of pushback.

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<v Speaker 1>So then if this like all comes crumbling down in

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming years, you know, is it going to be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have known that they were too late to

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<v Speaker 1>the party. So you can kind of go either way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like just something that you know, we're putting

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<v Speaker 1>out there that we can possibly revisit in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just find that that's an interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of think about. You know. Again, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone kind of back and forth in my mind because

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<v Speaker 1>I think getting into this sort of model for the

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<v Speaker 1>WPT is a good thing. I mean, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try it, you have to try it now. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait any longer. Yeah. I like the fact that they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting they're putting an absolute minimum five million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>marketing behind this project, which is this free role. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna work? We don't know yet, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are betting with their wallets, okay, And obviously that five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in marketing is going to be more because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're gonna have to spend some money to

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<v Speaker 1>actually market the thing, like you know, so it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>like seven and a half million, I have no idea, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to build the platform and whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it does launch in what they they are

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<v Speaker 1>listing as early twenty twenty five, I'm assuming there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be some more marketing push there, right, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's out of the question to say

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<v Speaker 1>they're spending seven and a half to ten minsion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get this thing off the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>up and running. So I think that coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>such a big promotion like this club WPT five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar free roll can help cut down the gap that

417
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<v Speaker 1>you have between other operators in this space, you know,

418
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<v Speaker 1>because if you just can't try and kind of come

419
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.480
<v Speaker 1>in cold, you know, you're you're you're definitely gonna have

420
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to play catch up here. You can maybe accelerate that

421
00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.599
<v Speaker 1>ketchup a little bit, you're still going to be behind

422
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.400
<v Speaker 1>other operators, yes, but we'll see. And then I think

423
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:30.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's just going to come down to

424
00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.559
<v Speaker 1>what does the platform itself look like, Because if it's

425
00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a good quality platform, I think a lot of people

426
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>will flock there. Naturally, WPT has a good brand, the globe,

427
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:49.519
<v Speaker 1>the WPT Global platform is very good. The Club WPT platform,

428
00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the regular one is not good. So so like if

429
00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they're basically just going to take like you know, the

430
00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>development of the the global platform, kind of use that

431
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and then a here, I think that's great, you know,

432
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.319
<v Speaker 1>especially if you can do things like play it on mobile,

433
00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, adequately, multi table, et cetera. Secondary to that,

434
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>where I think that you can really help, you know,

435
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.319
<v Speaker 1>close the gap between somebody like them in a global

436
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>poker for example, is if they're going to use live

437
00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:24.319
<v Speaker 1>event qualification, that's huge. If they can use the Club

438
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 1>WPT Gold platform to qualify people for their live poker tournaments.

439
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Because the World Poker too has such a big brand,

440
00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>then that's a really big boost to them as well.

441
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you can win into you know, Seminal

442
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Hard Rock or whatever it may be, went into the

443
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.799
<v Speaker 1>World Championship, et cetera. Now they do stuff on Club

444
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>ept on the regular site. But it's like, you know,

445
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>one seed a month. It's it's you know, much much

446
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>harder because of the model and the way that it

447
00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>shakes out here. You know, it's again it's it's not

448
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>real money online gaming by definition. It's just more closely

449
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.799
<v Speaker 1>aligned so you can do you know, kind of satellite

450
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.839
<v Speaker 1>qualifiers in more of a general sense that people understand

451
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>out there. So I'm curious to see how that all

452
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>plays out. So on one side of me says, okay,

453
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a very cool promotion. This is a good

454
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.079
<v Speaker 1>way to announce it. You know, they're going to get again,

455
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:21.039
<v Speaker 1>approximately two thousand people that are into this event, five

456
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred of them are going to make the money. One

457
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>person's gonna win a million dollars, a bunch of other

458
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna win a lot of money. On a

459
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred people are going to then go on to have

460
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 1>an experience of playing in the ten K World Championship.

461
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot to be had here from a

462
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>player experience aspect, coupled with the fact that one thing

463
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>we know about the World Poker Tour is they bank

464
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>on player experience. That is like their core, their foundation.

465
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<v Speaker 1>So I would imagine I would expect nothing less of

466
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the WPT that they're going to roll out the red

467
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>carpet for these two thousand people and essentially make them

468
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 1>ambassadors for the Club WPT gold product, right, because if

469
00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you win in you come out to Las Vegas, you

470
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>have an amazing time. You know, win money or don't

471
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>win money. You know, if if that experience is great,

472
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna just go back and tell people how great

473
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the WPT brand is and why they should play on

474
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Club WPT goal. So, like, you know, that's on the

475
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>back end now. I do also have questions of the

476
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.799
<v Speaker 1>WPT World Championship, Like so, like the purest in me says,

477
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 1>doing this without a guarantee seems incredibly silly. I mean, like,

478
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know how I feel about it. I mean,

479
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel. I've been talking forever, so just

480
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to talk say something.

481
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Look, I was teamed run it back with forty million,

482
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>dropping it down to twenty five or thirty or fifteen,

483
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they didn't want to do that. That's fine.

484
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I still think people are gonna play. I still think

485
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna stay here in Vegas or come to Vegas.

486
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.559
<v Speaker 2>There's enough events on the schedule, which we'll probably touch

487
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>on a little later, but I think the main event

488
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>will be fine. It's not going to have probably anything

489
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>near what it had last year. Could it eclipse the

490
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>first year twenty two? Possibly?

491
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>So let me just quickly jump in twenty twenty two

492
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and sixty entries and then last year three

493
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.759
<v Speaker 1>thy eight hundred and thirty five. In that first year

494
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two, the guarantee was fifteen million. I

495
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 1>think they got right around twenty nine million. Last year

496
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they obviously went all the way up to forty million

497
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the guarantee. They fell short by you know,

498
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 1>two two and a half million dollars whatever it was,

499
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>three eight hundred and thirty five entries.

500
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>So continue, So I think it will be fine. Yeah,

501
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of bad for players if they're

502
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to go to war with GG not having a

503
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 2>guarantee definitely, definitely is going to hurt when it comes

504
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to the sweepstakes product. I like it. I'm a fan

505
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>of it. You said WPT. Obviously we've both spent time

506
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 2>with them. Are very you know, they're not going to

507
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>just kind of gamble on these things. So maybe this

508
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 2>is a positive sign for that platform. In this industry,

509
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 2>we talk about Global poker, there's a couple of new

510
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>ones that just came out, plus now this one. Maybe

511
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, things are going to be on the up

512
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>for the sweepstakes model. So I think it's always good

513
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to have competition. Competition is healthy. Global focer probably doesn't

514
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 2>like it, but I think that will be fine. You're

515
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna get who knows, thousands of players with accounts in

516
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the system ready to play. I'm sure. I mean, I

517
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>can't remember if you touched on it, but I'm sure

518
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 2>there's something some t's and c's in the prize pool

519
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>for this five million dollar freeyear old where some of

520
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the prize pool is allocated to sweep coins.

521
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I haven't seen anything, so I honestly don't

522
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>know and if and if they're doing this with the

523
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>platform not set to launch. For what I'm guessing is

524
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at least two months. I mean best case, you know,

525
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>three weeks or whatever it is until it's January. I

526
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>would guess when you're calling something early twenty twenty five,

527
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that means anywhere up to aprils in play. So I

528
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think you could. I don't think you could build

529
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>in some sort of mechanism where let's say you have

530
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>somebody finished in first place for a million dollars and

531
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's in the t's and c's to award that as

532
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sweeps coins on the platform, and then you're essentially holding

533
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that million for months, right Like, I don't think that

534
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that's going to provide the good pr look that you're

535
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out of this. So from what I

536
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>can tell, this is going to just be all cash.

537
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can obviously ask the people over there

538
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 1>how that's going to work out or if there's any

539
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>thought to that, but but yeah.

540
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean, you know, the five million dollar

541
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>free roll is probably is incentive to a wider play

542
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 2>a pool than you know, a forty million dollar guarantee,

543
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 2>mainly because of the price point. Right we're talking about

544
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the main event you're in for ten thousand plus, maybe

545
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 2>a re entry. This free roll attracts a whole different

546
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, play a base like I was probably never

547
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>direct buying into the main event, but like this three

548
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>roll is right up my alley. You know, maybe it's

549
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 2>a way I can get into more events, getting to

550
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>potentially the main and I think it's you.

551
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's that's still a long shot.

552
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure. But what I'm saying is that I think the

553
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>people that were going to play the main already are

554
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>going to play it regardless. I'm not say we'll see

555
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 2>too many peoples.

556
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'll say that I was somebody who always bookmarked

557
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 1>this event to play. I essentially pencil in two ten

558
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 1>k's a year, the WSB Main Event and the WPT

559
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>World Championship. I am now currently on the fence about

560
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the WPT World Championship. You slap on a guarantee you're in,

561
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm in there because I know that. Yeah, it just

562
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 1>it depends. It's it's not that I'm not out. I'm

563
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 1>not saying, but I'm more of a wait and see

564
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>because it makes sense because I would when I'm when

565
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm somebody who takes a leap to playing a ten

566
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>k event, I want to be able to feel comfortable

567
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>playing it. I want to have value, right, you know,

568
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 1>if there's going to be eleven, fifteen hundred or whatever

569
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it is, Jeremy Ostmas is in the field. Okay, I'm

570
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>not not playing like you know, like but ws a

571
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 1>P main event, you just you know that it's just

572
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a field full of shot takers, recreationals, et cetera,

573
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like tons of soft spots, so you can feel comfortable there.

574
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously you're gonna run into very good players at times, yes,

575
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>but the majority of players are not ten K buying

576
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>level players. The WBT, I think, is a more difficult

577
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 1>ten K than the WSP main event in terms of

578
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>player quality. So does the lack of a guarantee make

579
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>it even harder? Right? I mean I don't know. The

580
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>other thing, well okay, but the other side of that

581
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>argument is that all the good players are going to

582
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>be in the Mahamas playing twenty five k's and ten

583
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 1>k's and fifty like you know what I mean, Like

584
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>all the quo unquote Jeremy Alsi's of the world are

585
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>going to the Bahamas. So it's like I'm on that well,

586
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's just my thinking. So again, it's

587
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>not that I'm out, I'm playing it, but it's one

588
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of those things where I'll take more of a wait

589
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and see approach and I'll say, Okay, does this do

590
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is going to be a good field?

591
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, I'll dive in there like I'll I'll probably

592
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 1>play some saddle. It's again, they have a ton of

593
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>satellites on offer for this sort of thing, for this thing,

594
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so I'll probably fire into there versus you know, in

595
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 1>years past, I'd be like, I'm not going to bother

596
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the satellite. I'm just gonna I'm just going to sell

597
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the action in play, right, you know, I know there's

598
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be enough people coming out of the woodwork because

599
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of where they put it with the guarantee, I will

600
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>say that I think, you know, we had talked about

601
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it many times, but going from fifteen to forty was ridiculous.

602
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's that's like part of me says that

603
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that was there a plan, meaning you

604
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>went from fifteen to forty, and the marketing push behind

605
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the forty was biggest guarantee in poker history, which very

606
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>much woke up the bear or the bears that are

607
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.599
<v Speaker 1>gg poker in doubyssip because then they came back with

608
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>fifty million and said, no, biggest guarantee in poker. Okay, So, like,

609
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 1>did you not think that you were gonna, you know,

610
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.039
<v Speaker 1>wake up that giant from sleeping? Like I like, do

611
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like like, were you not

612
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>prepared to go head to head like that? That's like

613
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I was not prepared. I think they

614
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're still SunShot, Like, but was there anyone in

615
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the room that said, guys, fifteen to forty is a stretch?

616
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>What happens if we miss it? What's the plan? Like?

617
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Because when you go from then forty to zero, that

618
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>tells me you didn't have a plan, of course, because

619
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>if you were to go from forty back to like

620
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>let's say twenty or twenty five, which is still an

621
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>increase on the first year, Like that's like the you know,

622
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, we miss by a number we're not

623
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with, we're gonna scalop back. This is what we're

624
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 1>going to scale it back to. You know, So I

625
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 1>feel like there wasn't a plan, right, doesn't feel now?

626
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Kind of along those same lines, I still feel like

627
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 1>they're poking the bear a little bit here because.

628
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna say a WSP five.

629
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Again. They're saying biggest free roll in poker history, Like

630
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't think GG Poker in WSP, which you know

631
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 1>obviously the news came out the GG Poker is in

632
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the process of buying the ws BE, Like you don't

633
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>think they're over there saying like guys, let's go like yeah,

634
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 1>next summer, like biggest free for next December, biggest free

635
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean, and clearly like they

636
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 1>don't care. They will go to whatever number it takes,

637
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 1>as you know, emphasized by the fact that they went

638
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to fifty million. Like so it's like, are you now

639
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like poking that bear again? So yeah, that's

640
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that's like, you know, it's kind of like okay, so

641
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 1>then what happens again? Like I I'm still like wrestling

642
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, if if how this is gonna all

643
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>shake out? I mean, I I don't know, and like

644
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can make arguments for both sides, and

645
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can make kind of strong arguments

646
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>for both sides. I do feel like there wasn't a

647
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 1>backup plan if you missed the forty million. I think

648
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of it.

649
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 2>It feels like that. But like I mean, I mean,

650
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been in the trenches at WPT like you

651
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>have been in the head office. I don't know how

652
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>things up right up, and they've being you know, a

653
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>little live reporter on the floor Hawaiian gardens and stuff.

654
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 2>So but why gardens. I love the guns, I'd say. Yeah.

655
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>One thing that kind of leads me in that direction

656
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 2>is just the way this gold coins the WD goal

657
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of came out, news came out, we all signed up,

658
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and then the days after that we started seeing promotions

659
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>from their ambassadors, from other content creators use my code,

660
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Rampage to be entered into this and this,

661
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 2>and I obviously we didn't put a promo code in,

662
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 2>so we've missed these drawings like this should have been

663
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>an all encompassing marketing plan project release, so that I

664
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>could choose, Okay, I would like to be part of

665
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Rampage's promotion or I'd like to be part of Joey

666
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Ingram's promotion.

667
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 1>And then I asked about that, And so you don't

668
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 1>need to enter a promo code like I think. You

669
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>enter your name, your email, and then there's a boxing

670
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 1>promo code. I think that's right now, you don't need

671
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to enter the promo code. But if you do enter

672
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a promo code like one of the ones from the

673
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Ambassadors or whatever. I think there's one like general one

674
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 1>on the WPT site in the everything you need to

675
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Know article, et cetera, then you can possibly get entered

676
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>into additional drawings like we've missed that, you know, we've

677
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>missed that chance, which silly and like a so I

678
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 1>think that that is.

679
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they knew whoever, whoever was in charge

680
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>of that it should have been when you released that.

681
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think that part of the thing, that

682
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 1>part was really buttoned up, you know. But but I

683
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>will say that, you know, on the the back end

684
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of things, this is a way that they can then track,

685
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, how many people is Rampage driving, how many

686
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 1>people is brad Owen driving? Like, you know, so they

687
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>can say, like, oh, five hundred people signed up for this,

688
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>but only twenty people signed up for here. Clearly you're

689
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 1>not an ambassador worth anything, right, So like like that's

690
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>how you can track things on the back end, like

691
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>who which which of your marketing channels have reach.

692
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>How do you track us?

693
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's always going to be people that don't sign up.

694
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>There's a code. I mean, we ever did in poker

695
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 1>roll all the time.

696
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Difference with us signing up in the first hour versus

697
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>someone signing up in two weeks with the promo code, right, So.

698
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who who it? Maybe you can do with

699
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a time thing?

700
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think I didn't. I ask you these are

701
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a promo code? You said, no, a confine one. Someone

702
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>asked me if there's a promo corde I said no.

703
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did think it was interesting that when so

704
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>we both signed up, like right when we saw the

705
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>press release hit or in boxes, right, I thought it

706
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 1>was interesting that I went to the website and they

707
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>had a box for the promo code, and I was like,

708
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 1>but the site's not live yet. I can't purchase anything,

709
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>so what's the point of me entering a promo code.

710
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even like think that it could be something

711
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 1>that would allow me to get into additional drawings. But whatever,

712
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. You know, I don't expect to be picked.

713
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>So no big deal, not that big of a deal.

714
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just I just wrote a bunch of

715
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>other stuff down again. You know, I just thought I

716
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting that, you know, they're still kind

717
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of coming with that you know, biggest in poker history messaging,

718
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>only now applying it to the free roll, which you know,

719
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>if we know how this went the first time around,

720
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 1>it feels like next year we're going to get some

721
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 1>sort of massive free role coming out of out of

722
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the WSFP or GG Poker or whatever they do a

723
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>paradise in December, right, I mean that kind of seems

724
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 1>like that would that would track. I have a concern

725
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>and this is like the the fan in me. So

726
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I talked about how like from the industry side of things,

727
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>how we're thinking about things. I talked about me specifically,

728
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody who has played the WPT World Championship the first

729
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>two years that it's been at the win or these

730
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>last two years that it's been in the win. But

731
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>now I'm kind of much more on the fence. We'll

732
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>see how it goes. I'm probably leaning like sixty forty sixty.

733
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll be in, you know, just knowing all the qualifiers

734
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot that they have, but you know, there's still

735
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>there's a bigger chance than before that I would miss

736
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 1>this sort of thing before. It was like when they

737
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>announced fifteen million, right, it was like, oh my gosh,

738
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>like I have to do whatever takes to get in this.

739
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Then they announced forty million, and I was like, okay,

740
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like I might sell one of my kids to get

741
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>into this thing. Right now, It's like, okay, I can back.

742
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Not a big deal. You know, maybe I fire you know,

743
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>eight bullets into the prime instead. Right. So so yeah,

744
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>now we saw the WPT World Championship go from being

745
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>this is me speaking like the fan and me. We

746
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>saw the WPT World World Championship like the old one, right,

747
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the twenty five k you know, that was one of

748
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the biggest things in poker, and then it like kind

749
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of just slowly like went away. And then they brought

750
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 1>in the WPT Tournament of champions Right then that kind

751
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of slowly goes away. Then they bring in this WPT

752
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>World Championship at the WINN and it comes in like

753
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just gangbusters, fifteen million first year, forty million next year,

754
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's raving about it.

755
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

756
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I always thought the WPT World Championship was awesome, Like

757
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>when I first was getting into poker, I freaking loved it.

758
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I hated that it went away, right, I

759
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 1>always thought you coul should have kind of had that

760
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>season ending like big buy an event.

761
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

762
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I always love to the Tournament of champions. The WPT

763
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>hero On Champas I think was incredible. I know it

764
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 1>was extremely like exclusive, small field and that sort of thing.

765
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I freaking love that event. I wish that they would

766
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 1>bring that back. So now I just wonder you go

767
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.599
<v Speaker 1>from fifteen to forty you miss. Now you're at zero.

768
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>All the marketing push that I can see so far,

769
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and I know it's it's early, but it is October

770
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is coming up in December is all about

771
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>this free roll. So like, is this WPT World Championship

772
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>just gonna like fall off a cliff?

773
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 2>No? I don't think it will.

774
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm saying that's the concern.

775
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the concerent. Yeah, of course, that's the concern.

776
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I get twelve hundred entrants, right.

777
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now let me speak on that specifically and

778
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to like talk to this. I think

779
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>my success, my success benchmark is that it needs to

780
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>have I think seventeen hundred entries. The reason why I

781
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>say that is that the WPT one drop event thing

782
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that happened in the summer at the win twenty twenty

783
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>three had sixteen hundred and seventy six This summer at

784
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the win they had their ten K and wasn't WPT,

785
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.039
<v Speaker 1>but it was a ten K had fourteen hundred and

786
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 1>forty entries. So like, I just think that's the I

787
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 1>think that the quote unquote WPT World Championship should be

788
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing at the win. Like, if you're WPT,

789
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you should want it to be the biggest ten K

790
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>at the win. So the floor is whatever those numbers are.

791
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'll say seventeen hundred just to like round up

792
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So that's like my if it's like

793
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>if they come in and it's twelve hundred, which I

794
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 1>don't really think is possible because they have the one thousand,

795
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 1>eleven hundred satellity, is that what they're saying? So, you know,

796
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>but maybe there's a world that it happens.

797
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, So Okay, we all know

798
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to be like, Okay, let's hit thirty

799
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred players to show we didn't need a guarantee

800
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>to crush. That's not gonna happen. I think their next go,

801
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's very it's somewhat attainable, would be to surpass

802
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty two number of twenty nine hundred and sixty.

803
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Now I think they're not good. I'm not saying I'm

804
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>not saying it's going to happen. I'm saying that's probably

805
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 2>their that's what they're shooting for. W we know from WPT,

806
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 2>they like they always like to be like, we want

807
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 2>this many entrance. They always have some goal in numbers

808
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to all their main tour stops. I

809
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 2>think their goal will be twenty nine to sixty one,

810
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 2>and then I think the next one would be maybe

811
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more where you are like seventeen hundred

812
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>to two thousand. Just they want to have a decent

813
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.519
<v Speaker 2>enough prize pool where it's like ends up being you know,

814
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe it is fifteen million or something where it doesn't

815
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 2>look so bad, because bad would be a twelve hundred,

816
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And the only way that really happens is

817
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if Adam's really promising eleven one thousand

818
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>satellite qualifiers, half of them just take cash or tornament

819
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.039
<v Speaker 2>dollars or whatever they have an option of it, so

820
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 2>it's unlikely to happen. But I don't know exactly if

821
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 2>that thousand is true or if they have a you know,

822
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 2>another option where they can just accept money or cash

823
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 2>or something.

824
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely been less of a

825
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 1>push this year for the satellite specific to the WPT

826
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>World Championship then last year. Obviously last year and then

827
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you and I talked about this. I mean, you have

828
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to hit a forty million dollar guarantee, so you're going

829
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 1>to be pushing the crap out of this. Now. I

830
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.199
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that there are two hundred and forty guaranteed seats

831
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>at the win in December, so there's that you have

832
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the one hundred coming from this free roll. So now

833
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you're at three forty. Okay, I would say just based

834
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>on a bunch of other stuff. You know, people winning

835
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>in VIA, they win a prime, they win WPT, et cetera.

836
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 1>You know you're probably pushing four hundred, three seventy five,

837
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>four hundred like you're getting there right, So okay, like

838
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 1>where are these other six hundred coming from? I'm assuming

839
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>WPT Global. I guess you know you're going to have

840
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 1>some obviously some some regular Club WPT qualifiers. Yes, So

841
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think that, you know, if you do have

842
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>an idea of like a number that you benchmark as

843
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 1>success or that you view as respectable, like we don't

844
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>want to go below this, et cetera, then start putting

845
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the word out about that sort of stuff like, Okay,

846
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know fifty people have won from club WPT, like,

847
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of stuff. Again, very similar to what

848
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Poker Stars did with that PSPC. Like I thought that

849
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>marketing was incredible, right, So I do find it it

850
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>interesting that the number is said to be a thousand qualifiers,

851
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see where it comes from. I also think that, listen,

852
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a test of the player

853
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 1>first ideology that the WPT preaches and holds to its core.

854
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is it's a test

855
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 1>for the community, and I'm curious to see if the

856
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>community passes this test, because all the community does when

857
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the WPT puts on this cruise ship thing that probably

858
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>lost them a crap ton of money, they do this

859
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>incredible stuff over at the wind in December. They're willing

860
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to go up to forty million and go head to

861
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>head with the WSP when everyone's like, what are you doing?

862
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy to go from fifteen to forty, Like you're

863
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 1>doing all this sort of stuff, right, they're constantly player first,

864
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>player first, player first, right, they very much say it,

865
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>but they also walk the walk, right, just talking the talk,

866
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>they do walk the walk when it comes to that.

867
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>So did they buy goodwill with the players? Will the

868
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>players still show up without a big guarantee on this

869
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>event or will the players be like, you know what,

870
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 1>we'll play the prime whatever, but we're not going to

871
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 1>splurge for the ten k. Or if you were going

872
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to splurge for the ten k in years past, you know,

873
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>if it has a forty million dollar price tag, maybe

874
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you're firing three four bullets versus this year you're like,

875
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'll take one shot, you know. Or

876
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>are those players saying like, you know what, why should

877
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I try and reach for a ten K when I

878
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>can just reach for a twenty five K and go

879
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>play a fifty million dollar guarantee?

880
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Right? So like, yeah, that's a good point.

881
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see if all the what they've done

882
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 1>in literally their whole history WPT in terms of putting

883
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the players first, you know, are they going to are

884
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the players then going to come back being like you've

885
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>been so good to us, you know what, we you

886
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>don't need a guarantee because we're still going to show

887
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 1>up and are what they think are thirty eight hundred

888
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>players going to show up for thirty hundred entries?

889
00:44:59.480 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Right?

890
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>You know? Is that gonna happen? And I thought I

891
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 1>heard a number that it was right around two thousand,

892
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty one hundred uniques played. I thought that was

893
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the number. I forget maybe it was higher. I can't remember,

894
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's it about right, that's a good amount of uniques.

895
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that number of uniques gonna come back? Or is it,

896
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, tied to a guarantee because you know, I

897
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>mentioned those podcasts that that Pliska was on. He was

898
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 1>on Only Friends with Burkey and them, and Burkeie said,

899
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, basically we're poker players. We go where the

900
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 1>ev is so kind of in my sort of thinking

901
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>like if I don't think this event is valuable, am

902
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I gonna bother to try and kind of extend myself,

903
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>extend my bank roll? Or can I just fire somewhere else?

904
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Right? If we could get those numbers, those unique the

905
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>unique entrants that percentage. I would say this year, obviously

906
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 2>that both is gonna go down, but I would say

907
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 2>that the re entry rate drops more than the unique right,

908
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>because once you fired that Wambulla, it's not like, you know,

909
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't see this overlay, you don't see this forty

910
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>million dollars guarantee. So the incentive to rebuy Reana is

911
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>not as not as big as last ya. So obviously

912
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:08.320
<v Speaker 2>there will be a drop off in both, but us

913
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a guarantee. I think that there's a steepid drop

914
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.480
<v Speaker 2>off in re entries than there is the actual uniques.

915
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess, just quickly on Donnie as a

916
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>player speaking, I now view this event very similar to

917
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 1>how I always view WPT five diamond. I would never

918
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>play that just because it just always seemed like an

919
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>unattainable goal to compete in that field when you have

920
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>these players who are the best of the best with

921
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>multiple bullets and there's no like guarantee supporting or or

922
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, driving I guess more recreational or weaker players

923
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>into the field, possibly creating the ev and the fact

924
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of a big overlay, like you know, So there's that aspect, right, now,

925
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>WPT five Diamond always drew very well. You know, it

926
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>got banger numbers, right, you know, seven eight hundred, nine

927
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred and well over one thousand players in the field,

928
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 1>huge prizes, but you know, you're battling with the Alex

929
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Faxon's of the world, who are firing multiple bullets in

930
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a very good structured event, like without that guarantee that

931
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 1>is driving the other elements that you need to create

932
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>value or are you gonna chase So like that's that's how

933
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I kind of look at it now. I don't think

934
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it's as unplayable, I guess as I would view WPT

935
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>five Diamond, you know, but it's more closer to that

936
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>than it is now to like the WSP main event, right.

937
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 1>So that's just how I kind of think about it.

938
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>So and I'm curious to see if if other players

939
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>feel that way, or if people make the trip out,

940
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>or you know, whatever it may be. I'm curious. I

941
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>also think that just kind of wrapping up this talk

942
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>about the guarantee and then we're going to hit on

943
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 1>some of the schedule stuff. I think you just set

944
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the bar when you go to forty, which is again

945
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>our argument we said you do this, it's hard to

946
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.079
<v Speaker 1>go back. Like, and if you go back, I mean,

947
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this is like the worst case going back, or maybe

948
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>this is better than twenty I have none.

949
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it's better. I think going to zero is

950
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 2>bet then going to like fifteen or twenty five.

951
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, Yeah, But I'm always of the opinion that, like,

952
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 1>if you change something that is viewed negative, you just

953
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>admit it and you talk about it and you be

954
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>open about it, which which they did when they missed

955
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the guarantee. They came out there minutes after it happened.

956
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Plisko was in front of a microphone in front of

957
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 1>cameras being like, hey, we missed, We're paying for it.

958
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take it on the chin. You got questions

959
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 1>fire on my way, right, So why couldn't you do

960
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 1>that same sort of thing and just be like, listen,

961
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 1>we swung for the fences last year. We have to

962
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>scale back. We obviously recognize the landscape in this specific

963
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>time period going up against our biggest competitor. So you know,

964
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do twenty five or we're gonna do thirty,

965
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and we would love to have you still. Plus there's

966
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this five million dollar free roll. Plus we're doing the

967
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Prime again. That got ten thousand entries last you know

968
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So it's like, I think that could

969
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 1>have been the Cell if you were worried about it.

970
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's just where I'm at with things there. Let's

971
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 1>get into the schedule, because they also dropped the entire schedule.

972
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>It is available over on WPT dot com. Also, did

973
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you know that I think all the main tour events

974
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>are now called championship events like WPT Australia Championship, WPTX Championship,

975
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 1>everything is championship. I thought it was the main tour

976
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and then that just wasn't named. Now it's championship anyway,

977
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So the schedule dropped. I have some highlights. So first

978
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that sticks out to me. The big opener last

979
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>year was a six hundred dollars buy in one million

980
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>dollar guarantee. This year it is an eight hundred dollars

981
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>buy in and it remains a one million dollar guarantee.

982
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 1>My thoughts are that it's interesting to see the buy

983
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 1>in increase but not the guarantee. I think they certainly

984
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>could have gone to two million or two and a

985
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>half million, And I know our buddy Matt Savage will

986
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>fight me on this, but yeah, I mean couple things.

987
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>First year that they did this, it was six hundred

988
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 1>five hundred k guarantee, right, they got two nine hundred

989
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and ninety nine entries for a one point five five

990
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to nine million dollar prize school, so more than three

991
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 1>x the guarantee. Last year they go six hundred one million,

992
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 1>they get four thy nine hundred and fifty. Michael Rosito

993
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>wins the thing prize school was two point five million,

994
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>so two point five x on the guarantee. So I

995
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's very much within the realm of possibility that

996
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they could have kept it six hundred and gone to

997
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>two or two and a half million, maybe even pushed

998
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 1>it to three. Like that's part of the general schedule

999
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:41.039
<v Speaker 1>here is like if you remove the forty million, maybe

1000
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>apply some larger guarantees to the other stuff, or some

1001
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 1>guarantee increases to the other stuff, which you and I

1002
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 1>talked about, where like if you're gonna go head to

1003
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>head with the WSP Paradise in December, one of the

1004
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 1>things you could do is cater to the like sub

1005
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars buying player, like one thousand dollars player,

1006
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.519
<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollar player, et cetera. Eight hundred dollar buying

1007
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 1>also feels too close to WPT Prime, Like that's weird

1008
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to me. I mean, don't they have this WPT five

1009
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hundred brand. Why isn't it just the WPT five hundred opener? Yeah,

1010
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's five hundred dollars buying and it has a

1011
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>two million dollar guarantee. And the reason why I bring

1012
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>up two million as a number is that Seminal Hard

1013
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Rock or Seminal Rock and Roll Poker Open, which is

1014
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>coming up very soon, is right before the WPT World

1015
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Championship opens with a four hundred dollars buying two million

1016
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 1>dollar guarantee. Shouldn't the WPT World Championship Series aim to

1017
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>do everything bigger and better? I mean, it's your World Championship,

1018
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it is your season ending like extravaganza. I mean, shouldn't

1019
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.039
<v Speaker 1>everything be bigger and better as part of this series,

1020
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>including this opener?

1021
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

1022
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>So obviously Seminole draws extremely well, but the win is incredible.

1023
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>They are the Seminal of Vegas. It is what they are.

1024
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So obviously we're we're we're friends with the people at

1025
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the win. Ryan and Ray who hopefully will be on

1026
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>this podcast coming up hopefully. I have spoken to them.

1027
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 2>We have a little group chat. It's called Win Besties.

1028
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 1>That's throwing shots at the poker Tour. By the way,

1029
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I heard that, Ryan, Okay, we'll say that for the

1030
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>first I heard. I heard.

1031
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>So after speaking with them, I feel that they are

1032
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 2>very much in control of the side events. And I

1033
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.599
<v Speaker 2>basically ask exactly what you said, six hundred, now eight hundred,

1034
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 2>same prize for what are you what are you doing?

1035
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, we don't have the space, We're not in

1036
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.199
<v Speaker 2>the ballroom yet, so there reasons makes sense. They kind

1037
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>accommodate the big fields. We saw it. We you were

1038
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 2>lined up for a while as an alternate. We understand

1039
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that six hundred. It's it's great, it's a great entry

1040
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.679
<v Speaker 2>point for an opening event. So I get get it

1041
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>that they've made it eight hundred dollars. Ray thinks it's

1042
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 2>still going to be still going to be huge, even.

1043
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Though it's going to be huge. That's but that's why

1044
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I say that you could have an increased guarantee because

1045
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like you just I know that it's going to be big,

1046
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like I have, you just have a million. The smallest

1047
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>doubt that it's going to have a two point five

1048
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:12.039
<v Speaker 1>million dollar prize pool, if not three million, Right, But

1049
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it looks like you're not trying as

1050
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>far because you're you're you're running it back but increasing

1051
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the buy in. So what you're telling people on the

1052
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 1>surface is that we only are expecting this many entries,

1053
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 1>like you know, so that that's just you know, that's

1054
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:32.599
<v Speaker 1>what I'm Yeah, I mean my biggest I also think

1055
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that eight hundred is again closer to prime. That's like

1056
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 1>a I know it's small, but like the difference between

1057
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a five h play and an eight hundred player, there's

1058
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 1>still like a little bit of a game, you know.

1059
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm that guy that's saying, like you could.

1060
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Just slap out WPT five hundred, there's your brand boom.

1061
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>WPT has certainly made it made a case to try

1062
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and bring back this alpha eight. So why can't they

1063
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>do with WPT five hundred on their schedule happening this

1064
00:53:57.159 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>year they hit some WT five hundred event playground.

1065
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think gets I think it's what they've said,

1066
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 2>it's a space issue. The problem with the eight hundred

1067
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 2>is last year we did the six hundred. We both

1068
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 2>played eye cash, you did not. I was okay with

1069
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>two bullets in that twelve hundred dollars, and I was

1070
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.440
<v Speaker 2>on the fence about playing Prime because I'm in it,

1071
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>but I cash. I then played Prime. Now this if

1072
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm eating for two bullets, I mean now was sixteen

1073
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. Prime is eleven hundred. Do I want to

1074
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 2>just maybe spend twenty two hundred dollars on Prime instead?

1075
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>The fact that it's literally back to back also hurts

1076
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>for some of those players unsure all that work they're

1077
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>going to have to, you know, the rec player out

1078
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 2>there like me, if they have a job, it's going

1079
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.639
<v Speaker 2>to have to choose between one or the other. So

1080
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why wouldn't you choose the five million dollars

1081
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 2>guarantee and spend three hundred dollars more per buying that?

1082
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>To me, it's probably it is probably going to be

1083
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 2>a slightly better structure, you know, more starting chips, longer levels.

1084
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we don't know the actual blind increases from what

1085
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at, so I think you will lose some

1086
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.760
<v Speaker 2>of those borderline players, one such as myself that I

1087
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 2>only want to spend a couple thousand dollars at the win.

1088
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, they want to play say the seventy five

1089
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Scramble satellite, whatever it is they want to play, be

1090
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 2>played two bullets in the prime, and they're going to

1091
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 2>just skip the eight hundred. So I think it's it

1092
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 2>does hurt. Six hundred or five hundred would have been better.

1093
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think they're doing this for a reason.

1094
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I just don't like it.

1095
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, I liked what they did with

1096
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the six hundred one million last year, right, you know

1097
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 1>that's because it very much tracked with like what everything

1098
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they do down at Seminole, which I think is arguably

1099
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the best big Field Big Series tournament venue in the US.

1100
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that to be I mean wins up

1101
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 1>there now, but I'm saying at the time, like win

1102
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit more of the up and comer

1103
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.679
<v Speaker 1>challenger to that. I also think that five hundred again

1104
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 1>is just cleaner. It has that brand of WPT five.

1105
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, early they have a sixteen hundred dollars mystery bounty.

1106
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Last year it had a two million dollar guarantee. It

1107
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 1>was multi flight, it had three flights. This year it's

1108
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>a two day even with a five hundred kre guarantee,

1109
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>so some scaling back there right now. This is probably

1110
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the I would say that this might this might be

1111
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a bigger issue for me personally than not having a

1112
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>guarantee on the World Championship is the fact that they

1113
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.199
<v Speaker 1>did not increase the Prime Championship guarantee.

1114
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:20.239
<v Speaker 2>What do they get lost year.

1115
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It got ten thousand, five hundred and twelve entries for

1116
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a ten ten million, one hundred ninety six thousand dollars

1117
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Price Bowl. They had a five million dollar guarantee.

1118
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 1>So this year they're running it back same five million.

1119
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.760
<v Speaker 1>So in twenty twenty two they had eleven hundred dollars

1120
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 1>buying for this two million dollar guarantee. Smashed it. They

1121
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>got five four hundred and thirty right just to shy

1122
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.559
<v Speaker 1>have a five point three million dollar Price Bowl. Then

1123
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they up it to five million dollars. They get ten thousand,

1124
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>five hundred entries in the damn thing. Calvin Anderson wins.

1125
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred ninety six thousand dollars in the Prize Bowl.

1126
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that So part of part of me saying

1127
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that like not or this is like bigger industry to

1128
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>me is that I feel like this can take away

1129
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 1>from the fact that you're not having a guarantee on

1130
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the WPT World Championship ten K and then also like

1131
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 1>this goes into the the idea of just catering to

1132
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.039
<v Speaker 1>like that smaller buy in player. So you know, I

1133
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think you really could have pushed the envelope if you

1134
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>really wanted toun down an eleven hundred and fifty million

1135
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>dollar guarantee and just gone for it. I mean, again,

1136
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the space issues, you know, but they

1137
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>did say last year that you know, once they actually

1138
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.199
<v Speaker 1>get into the series, get into the ballroom, they're going

1139
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to have more ballroom space.

1140
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, seven point five million, that's what you need.

1141
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just would have done ten. And so

1142
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the hell with it, let's go.

1143
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean's let's speak of somebody. Seven point five.

1144
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>That's it's still considered. They got that last year.

1145
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 2>They can but like you don't want to they could.

1146
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Get that again. Come on, man, they could do that

1147
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>back end of the schedule. Last year they had a

1148
00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars buying three million dollar guarantee and six

1149
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars buying two million dollar guarantee, both just straight

1150
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Nolman HoldEm tournaments this year the three K three million

1151
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.559
<v Speaker 1>dollar returns, but the sixteen hundred dollars buying one looks

1152
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 1>like it's been changed to be a sixteen hundred dollars

1153
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>mystery bounty event, and instead of having that two million

1154
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>dollar prize school, it's gonna have a million dollar guaranteed

1155
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>priz schools. Those are kind of the the big picture

1156
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 1>things that I saw. There are only four events on

1157
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 1>this year's schedule by my count, that are above three

1158
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:31.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, and last year I think they had eight,

1159
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 1>but they of course had the million dollar buy in

1160
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>one drop they had, you know, they had a fifty

1161
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.719
<v Speaker 1>k stuff like that. So this year those events that

1162
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 1>are above three thousand dollars. Of course, the ten thousand,

1163
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>four hundred dollars World Championship, you do have a twenty

1164
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.559
<v Speaker 1>five K Alpha eight. You have a ten thousand, five

1165
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars high Roller, and then you have the ten

1166
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars Seniors high Roller also listed on the schedule

1167
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 1>again WPT dot com.

1168
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, you say, over thraight, Y're not including the three

1169
00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 2>K right?

1170
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 1>No? No? Yeah, okay, yeah, over like that's what over three

1171
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 1>K means not including that's what I would have said

1172
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>three thousand or higher. Over first I looked at it,

1173
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, do they have any five

1174
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>k's on the sk which I didn't see any.

1175
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Yah, So that it gives a severe lack of high.

1176
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Rollism this well, but I think that's good. I think

1177
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that's something that they did correctly with this. Is that

1178
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I would have because you know what WSOP is doing

1179
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 1>at Paradise right.

1180
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Paradise is out of it by the endpoint. That's the thing.

1181
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm saying you could put some on the

1182
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>back end. You could put a five K six max.

1183
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 2>You could put a five.

1184
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Maybe on the back end.

1185
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, not at the front.

1186
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, is it too close because that

1187
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 1>stuff at Paradise ends the nineteenth? Is that too close

1188
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to Christmas? I mean, that's that's like asking a lot.

1189
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I feel like me like, if you're it's one thing,

1190
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I know that the win series what they goes to

1191
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the twenty third right or twenty second, I don't even remember,

1192
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but like you're already there, right, But then like if

1193
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you're in the Bahamas, are you then like routing yourself

1194
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas and then and going wherever you're going for

1195
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the holidays. I don't know, it feels iffy to do that,

1196
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 1>so I like, you know, catering to like again we

1197
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 1>said it, like do everything, like you know, have a

1198
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 1>bunch of like one ks to three ks, you know,

1199
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 1>or five hundred to three k's and then just have

1200
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that ten thousand dollars World Championship stand out. So I

1201
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>am a little bit surprised that they have the Alpha

1202
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 1>eight even on the schedule, But it just seems like

1203
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to ever, you know, put this horse

1204
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.480
<v Speaker 1>out to pasture, Like they just want to keep the

1205
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Alpha a brand around no matter what, for whatever reason.

1206
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>As a marketing person, I will always tell you that

1207
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to grow multiple brands is extremely difficult. So just

1208
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 1>have them be wpts, Like everything should just be the

1209
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 1>branded WPT end of story. You'll also see on the

1210
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>schedules that they have a ton of satellites listed. They

1211
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 1>have twenty five seat guarantees. They believe they're bringing back

1212
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.199
<v Speaker 1>the seventy five set guarantee. I saw that on there

1213
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>last year they had based on the guaranteed seats that

1214
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.559
<v Speaker 1>I counted up two hundred and eighty seats were given

1215
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.960
<v Speaker 1>away this year to forty. I think that's very good,

1216
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, to have that number. So you know, we

1217
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. You're gonna have that to forty at least,

1218
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 1>if not more. I think I don't even remember what

1219
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the seventy five set guarantee got last year, but I.

1220
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Think it crush it.

1221
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but again, you know, that's trying to get

1222
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 1>into the forty million dollar guarantee. So we'll see if

1223
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit more ambitious this year. But you know,

1224
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.519
<v Speaker 1>like that seventy five set guarantee is something that like

1225
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I would probably try and play, maybe you try and

1226
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 1>play again, you know, versus just diving straight into the

1227
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.599
<v Speaker 1>ten K. I think it's gonna be interesting to see

1228
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>how it all plays out in December. I think we've

1229
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:34.000
<v Speaker 1>said that many times. WSP has really started, like I guess,

1230
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>ramping up announcements of who's gonna be there. So so

1231
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of making that marketing push. I know

1232
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 1>they had the first online flight for the twenty five

1233
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 1>K fifty million dog Guarantee that Daniel Legrownie was streaming

1234
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and fired three bulletin, which I feel like he could

1235
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>be in that thing for seven hundred and fifty thousand

1236
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 1>dollars by the end of it. I mean, who knows.

1237
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So so we'll see how that goes. Obviously we're gonna

1238
01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna monitor everything there. But but yeah, that's that's

1239
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>how things are shaken out. One last question before we

1240
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.920
<v Speaker 1>move on to talking about WPT Australia and what happened

1241
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:10.239
<v Speaker 1>down there. Do you think that there's a chance that

1242
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 1>they announce a guarantee for the World Championship that they

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01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.800
<v Speaker 1>just they like, you know, behind closed doors, are like, listen,

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01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 1>we we need it. Yeah, let's go, even if it's

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01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 1>fifteen twenty. I think there's a chance. Yeah, the longer

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01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.760
<v Speaker 1>we wait, the you know, might be a little too light.

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01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 1>People planning Bahamas trips, so planning ept progue instead. So

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01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 1>if they do have some thoughts on that, they better

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01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 1>get that out a sent yeah and listen again. Maybe

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01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't need a guarantee and maybe this thing

1251
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:41.239
<v Speaker 1>just still does freaking numbers. I mean, who knows what

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01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the poker role? Who really knows? All right, So moving

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<v Speaker 1>on to WPT Australia, James ops, your boy, my boy

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01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.400
<v Speaker 1>wins WPT Australia three hundred and ninety six entries, Ops

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01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>top them all to win five hundred and eighty five

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01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 1>thousand Australian dollars. How much is that in US? Without looking?

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01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Without looking, you're supposed to know that two hundred and

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01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.079
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars to How much do you really think it is?

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01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me look at it. Five eighty five is probably

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01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 2>three seventy.

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01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Three ninety eight, three hundred ninety eight thousand US dollars.

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01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 1>The only currency in the world that matters that in

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01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 1>sweeps coins, right, that's the only the only two currencies,

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01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 1>only two currencies that matter. Yeah. So James opst wins

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01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:37.599
<v Speaker 1>the WPT Australia Championship. He beat Travis Enders beat Do

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01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know that name?

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01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I know of him?

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01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I mean that's a name that's unfamiliar to me.

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01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Murphy Olegg Aviachenko got fourth. Matthew Wakeman I know

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01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that that. I've covered him before. Eighth place is interesting.

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01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess this guy's just a stud. Now, Malcolm Trainor

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01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the best I mean comes with Actually he won the

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01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 1>million million dollar bounty. He didn't get massive bounties, but

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01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he won the million dollar first place for.

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01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:03.800
<v Speaker 2>All the small ones at the found Table.

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01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then he finishes in eighth place here for

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01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy one thousand Aussie forty eight thousand us D. Pretty

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01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:14.800
<v Speaker 1>good turnout. I would think.

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01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Poka's back in Australia.

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01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's like part of my thing with this.

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01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:23.719
<v Speaker 1>The winner's photo of James Ops has Van Marcus in it.

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01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:25.880
<v Speaker 2>And Billy the Croc got the legends.

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01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I fucking miss Australia, man, I mean this took place.

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01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Where was this event Sydney? Wasn't it saus City or no?

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01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.320
<v Speaker 1>No Queen's I mean you tell me.

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01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't making that much attention to idly watched the

1287
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.840
<v Speaker 2>final table star Gold Coast, Yeah, Gold Coast. That's why

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01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 2>we went for the British for the Australian program.

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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't go there.

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01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>That was before it really really nice property.

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01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean all the like people sharing on social media

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01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that I saw of this, it looks amazing. I think

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01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 1>we know a lot of people that like went there.

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01:04:55.880 --> 01:05:00.679
<v Speaker 1>They were you know, skipped skipping pokem at w. I mean, honestly,

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01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to skip out on a trip to Australia,

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01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.639
<v Speaker 1>So I get it. Yeah, maybe we see Poker coming

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01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 1>back more and more and more in Australia. I think

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01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it's obviously a very good thing the poker tour is

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01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>down there. Would love to possibly in the future. I

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01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:16.800
<v Speaker 1>have no idea when see the return of Ozzie Millions,

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01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:18.280
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if that's ever going to happen,

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01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, so who knows. But good on James Opst.

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01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 1>You know he took that a couple of years away

1304
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 1>to try and become a professional tennis player or whatever

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01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the heck.

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01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 2>He was doing.

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01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:32.599
<v Speaker 1>But he's back and you know he's clearly still one

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01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of the best.

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01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:34.920
<v Speaker 2>You winny second race of this year too, right, I.

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01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Can't even remember, right, I can't. It's funny the w

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01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.960
<v Speaker 1>city comes. It always comes like sooner than you expect,

1312
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and then it always goes faster than you expect. And

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01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 1>then it's always like way in the rear view, much

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01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 1>faster than you expect.

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01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Like it it seems like it was six months ago.

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01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 2>It feels like it was.

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01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Sixty years ago. I mean, it's just it's just how

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01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. So that was WPT Australia. James Off. Shout

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01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 1>out to him, Go to Andy McLeod. Hopefully you get

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01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that reference.

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01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you know who Andy McLeod played for the real

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01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Andy McLeod. No, that Lake Cruise.

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01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so there's that's and then we shift

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01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 1>things over to the WSP online, the international version taking

1325
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 1>place on GGI Poker. Morris Dietrich, sure, hopefully I probably

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01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 1>pushed that in some way shape or form, wins the

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01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:33.360
<v Speaker 1>WSP online main event. So this thing had seventeen in

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01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:40.119
<v Speaker 1>science six and forty six entries, Ditrich one four million,

1329
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty one thousand dollars. I mean, what in the f

1330
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.519
<v Speaker 1>and world there were two So kind of similar to

1331
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the WSP main event from Las Vegas, where you had

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01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Tomaia winning, but all the talk afterwards was like

1333
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 1>laptop gate. Here you had Ditrich winning, but all the

1334
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 1>talk out of it. These two insane bad beats that

1335
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 1>happened at the final table. The first one was during

1336
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.039
<v Speaker 1>four handed play, when you have Genny Akimov cracked Isaac

1337
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Barron's kings with six or four off. Achamov had the

1338
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:13.079
<v Speaker 1>big Chipley at the time, just ripped in with six

1339
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.679
<v Speaker 1>to four off. Baron actually flopped top set with his kings,

1340
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but Okamov was able to run down a straight that

1341
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 1>busted out Baron in fourth place.

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01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he was a turned off fluster.

1343
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 1>He did turn, he did turn a flush draw, I mean,

1344
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.559
<v Speaker 1>but still it's it's pretty sick. So Baron goes out

1345
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in fourth place for one point eight million dollars, and

1346
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.679
<v Speaker 1>then Achamov again, this time three handed play. He beats

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01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Ruy Ferrara's ace king was six four. Ferrera flops top

1348
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.239
<v Speaker 1>two pair but runner runner flush for Okamov again with

1349
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the six four following six four. So six four if

1350
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're playing in the GG poker streets, six

1351
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 1>floor is just you know, it breaks everything and you

1352
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:51.159
<v Speaker 1>can you can just win every hand with it.

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01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:52.920
<v Speaker 2>That's you know. I remember back in the day he

1354
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 2>used to say, like I think it was pucking nines

1355
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:55.880
<v Speaker 2>was like the stars nuts.

1356
01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:00.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, the GG nuts. And then so Ruy

1357
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Ferrera goes out in third place for just a under

1358
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 1>two point four million dollars, and then Okamov his heads

1359
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 1>up with Ditrich. Okamoa has the chip ley, but Dietrich

1360
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 1>ends up coming out on top. Achamov takes three point

1361
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:14.760
<v Speaker 1>one million dollars for his finish. Also at the final table,

1362
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Rolli in eighth place. Ben CB as he's often

1363
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.039
<v Speaker 1>known in the social media streets, six hundred and fifty

1364
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.199
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for him. This episode of the Poker Gol

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01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:58.439
<v Speaker 1>WSP online main event that took place on gg Poker

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01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.199
<v Speaker 1>was part of a series that had thirty three gold

1375
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.840
<v Speaker 1>bracelet events, so we are up to who knows how

1376
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 1>many racelet events have been given out this year. Just

1377
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 1>some highlights from the series. Not going to go through

1378
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.439
<v Speaker 1>every single winner, but even number two was a three

1379
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars Gladiators. It had eleven thousand, six hundred and

1380
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty entries. Rit Varz s Collins won it for four

1381
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine thousand dollars. Bryn Kenny got his second

1382
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 1>gold brace, so that when he won a ven number

1383
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 1>three the twenty one hundred dollars bounty. There was a

1384
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of bounties on here, and if you look at

1385
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.279
<v Speaker 1>WSP dot com for several of the events, first and

1386
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.159
<v Speaker 1>second place are the same because they don't include the

1387
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.039
<v Speaker 1>obviously the bounty money. So I just think that's kind

1388
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of interesting for historical purposes. Ven number seven was a

1389
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty dollars buying mystery millions that had

1390
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty two thousand, four hundred and fifty two entries. God

1391
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Damn Vlad Darier won it for six hundred and twenty

1392
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.640
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars. There was a million dollar top bounty

1393
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 1>in this thing. I don't know who won it, but

1394
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it happened Dennis Wallaz Number seventeen, the fifteen hundred dollars

1395
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Millionaire Maker for one million, two hundred and eighty seven

1396
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:07.079
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. This had four thousand, nine hundred and thirty

1397
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 1>four entries. There was a four hundred dollars colossus on

1398
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the schedule. It drew thirteen thousand, one hundred and forty

1399
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:17.199
<v Speaker 1>seven entries. Igor Zemstaff won it for six hundred and

1400
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:21.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars. Garofolo Francesco won the twenty five k

1401
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:26.439
<v Speaker 1>GG Millions Super high Roller for one point one million.

1402
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.039
<v Speaker 1>It had two hundred and thirty entries. Bryn Kenny, You're sorry.

1403
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Chris Brewer finished in a second place where eight round

1404
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and sixty five K Brin Kenny got third for six

1405
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty seven K. Patrick Leonard fourth, Dimitar Dante fifth,

1406
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Matteo sixth, Roman Hrabec seventh, and Ole Chemion took

1407
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:46.560
<v Speaker 1>eighth place. Simon Eric Matson won event number thirty the

1408
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty one hundred dollars six Max Bounty had twelve hundred

1409
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and thirty entries, his second gold bracelet. He won the

1410
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 1>gg Poker WSOP Online main event in twenty twenty two

1411
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for Jeshi two point eight million dollars and then a

1412
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:04.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of redemption for Ruy Ferrara. After that that crazy

1413
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 1>bust out in the main event in third place again

1414
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 1>when his ace king was beaten by Achamov's six '

1415
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.680
<v Speaker 1>four Despite for a flopping top two pair, Frera goes

1416
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 1>on to win the five K Polo, which was event

1417
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>number thirty one for two hundred and forty five K

1418
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Ilis Parsonen got second four one hundred and eighty two

1419
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, continuing to prove just how good he is

1420
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.239
<v Speaker 1>at PLO is the fin He also got fourth in

1421
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the ten K PLO for one hundred and twenty nine

1422
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:36.039
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, and then Sergio Ado topped off the series

1423
01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.640
<v Speaker 1>event number thirty three, the ten thousand three dollars GGI

1424
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Millions high Roller one four hundred and thirty three entries.

1425
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Aido won one point nine three five million dollars his

1426
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:51.000
<v Speaker 1>second bracelet. He won the fifty K during the summer

1427
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas. So that is WSP online. So I

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01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:59.119
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of a gripe here, a little

1429
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 1>bit of a complaint, okay, And I don't really know

1430
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.039
<v Speaker 1>event No, I don't really know who to direct it towards.

1431
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess I would direct it towards some media companies.

1432
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess I would direct it towards the operators. It

1433
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.720
<v Speaker 1>feels next to impossible to find out the results of

1434
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.239
<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. W coop just wrapped up

1435
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like it's just so hard, it's so like it's complicated.

1436
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I was I had a really good friend of mine

1437
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 1>was deep in this ws AP Online Main Event. I

1438
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:33.159
<v Speaker 1>think he took eleventh place. Couldn't sweat it? Like I can't.

1439
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I can down. Are you trying to start live reporting anything?

1440
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I can I can't down. I can download the

1441
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>client here, but when I when I go in, I

1442
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.000
<v Speaker 1>need to create an account to like actually see the

1443
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 1>players and stuff and like open a table, and I

1444
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:49.359
<v Speaker 1>can't create an account, So like why like why isn't

1445
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:53.199
<v Speaker 1>there Like this is the w AP Main Event online,

1446
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.079
<v Speaker 1>there's more than four million dollars out topic. Why aren't

1447
01:12:56.079 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 1>we just like bringing out Jeff Gross doing multiple days

1448
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of live streaming.

1449
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was some live streaming.

1450
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for the final table. Yeah, that's what I mean.

1451
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Like you want most stuff, Yeah, I get it.

1452
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And like w coop, it's just like it's impossible to

1453
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like try and find this stuff. And I know w

1454
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.920
<v Speaker 1>CUP obviously had some some streams that they were doing,

1455
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 1>but like still, like the live reporting that was done

1456
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on Poker News wasn't that good. Like there's just not

1457
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of articles that are out there after the fact,

1458
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like announcing like who won. Like it's just not I

1459
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:26.760
<v Speaker 1>think I miss you know what I miss? I miss

1460
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.560
<v Speaker 1>pocket fives dot Com that's what I missed who focused

1461
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 1>on the online stuff and was on top of it

1462
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:34.920
<v Speaker 1>at all times to spring it back. I mean it

1463
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:36.840
<v Speaker 1>has changed to poker steak dot com, but like it's

1464
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>just it's hard, like even now, like you go on

1465
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you go on WSP dot com, like they're running they're

1466
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 1>running bracelet events right now here in the US, Like

1467
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who won the events. There have

1468
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 1>been three or four of them so far, Like I

1469
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 1>want to know, I want to know what's happening multiple positives.

1470
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 1>They just had a circuit series on WSP dot com.

1471
01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even know when that happened last month,

1472
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 1>like a long time ago. They only have results for

1473
01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the first seven events, like I mean results.

1474
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, the two parts of this. Firstly, you were talking

1475
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 2>about the updates, the recap articles. You know, maybe the

1476
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:17.560
<v Speaker 2>media outlets out there, poker News, cord players, cetera. Don't

1477
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:19.920
<v Speaker 2>see value in them. The second part is.

1478
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have my my my. My debate to that

1479
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is poker Stars has a Poker Stars blog, Like there's

1480
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:29.560
<v Speaker 1>there's streaming, there's this like.

1481
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.640
<v Speaker 2>This Pocusar is a little different, but the.

1482
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Streaming is where I think it should go because that

1483
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 1>feels very easy lift when it's an online thing, like

1484
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you're just you have an overlay, you have one commentator,

1485
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:40.119
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like.

1486
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I think out there, let's go. The easiest thing to do. Sure,

1487
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:46.399
<v Speaker 2>just like John Smith wins event three of them.

1488
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Is putting it on social media, like let's like a tweet.

1489
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.680
<v Speaker 2>The other problem is, you know, we're being told from

1490
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 2>people that care about the results or need the results,

1491
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 2>such as handing the mob et cetera. It's hard to

1492
01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:00.199
<v Speaker 2>get some of these results from gig so they and

1493
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.800
<v Speaker 2>don't get them at all, and they.

1494
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Gg don't you want like don't you want it?

1495
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Someone that is the operator, whether it's gg slash WSP

1496
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.399
<v Speaker 2>dot com being more proactive about a sending the results,

1497
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.399
<v Speaker 2>b leaving the results in the client on WSP dot com.

1498
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 2>And third, do they want promotion of this? Do they want?

1499
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Like they want promotion of the WSP live here in

1500
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Vegas and Bahamas and Europe. But why they why they

1501
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't care as much about on them?

1502
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me say something that I probably should

1503
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 1>have said at the start in this little rant here,

1504
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 1>is that maybe I'm just a complete big oaf and

1505
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm missing it, But I feel like I'm as tapped

1506
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 1>into the industry as everyone and like in like the

1507
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>last couple of days of like w coop and stuff,

1508
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.319
<v Speaker 1>like I would go on to Poker News, I would

1509
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:46.920
<v Speaker 1>go on to poker steak dot com because I know

1510
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.119
<v Speaker 1>they write articles. I would like try and search on

1511
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.439
<v Speaker 1>social media. I would try and go to the Poker

1512
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Stars blog but didn't find anything. And sometimes I can't

1513
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:55.279
<v Speaker 1>even go to the Poker Star's website because it tells

1514
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:56.760
<v Speaker 1>me it's not in my area. And I'm like, it's

1515
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just a website, Like what are we doing here? And

1516
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 1>like it just like why why aren't I Like I

1517
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.119
<v Speaker 1>can say the WPT is not doing the right thing,

1518
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 1>not having a guarantee. I have non stop seeing this

1519
01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:10.760
<v Speaker 1>club WPT goal free role. It is in my face.

1520
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I have to like shut my computer to not see it. Yeah,

1521
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Like that is what I would expect from this sort

1522
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, right, Like it's it's the super Bowl, it's

1523
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the World Series in baseball, it's whatever it is, and

1524
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it's in your face, in your face, in your face.

1525
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Why isn't this in my face? Right? Like I want

1526
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to follow this stuff and I want to know about it.

1527
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 1>And I want to see who won and who had

1528
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:33.800
<v Speaker 1>big results and all this sort of stuff, but I

1529
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:37.199
<v Speaker 1>can never I can never find it. And it's just,

1530
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like pocketfives dot com was like

1531
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the one place that they obviously prioritized all the online stuff,

1532
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, sometimes they would, you know, in the

1533
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:48.520
<v Speaker 1>old days, they would go out to the World Series

1534
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of Poker and only cover the online guys and all

1535
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:52.840
<v Speaker 1>their leaderboards and all this sort of stuff. And I

1536
01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I missed that. But I also wish that

1537
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there was just more coverage in general about the online stuff,

1538
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I just I feel like it's it's lacking,

1539
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's hard because I want, I want to

1540
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>follow this stuff. I do, like I want to know

1541
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened, who won, like you know. So yeah, anyway,

1542
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that's my little, my little complaint there.

1543
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Pocket sixes dot com is available Pocket.

1544
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Sixes dot com. Pocket six I mean, I do think

1545
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:20.479
<v Speaker 1>that it is an opening in the space, you know, if.

1546
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:23.600
<v Speaker 2>If you need to be based in Europe.

1547
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:25.359
<v Speaker 1>No you don't, I've thought about this. If you I'm

1548
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 1>not going to give out to all my secrets on

1549
01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:29.119
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but I have I have the whole plan

1550
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 1>mapped out in my head, and you do not need to.

1551
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:31.880
<v Speaker 2>We need to highest someone base in Europe.

1552
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Shut up with the plan, Okay, do not be giving

1553
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:35.079
<v Speaker 1>this out.

1554
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 2>To people who's gonna take it.

1555
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I have a lot of good ideas, Okay,

1556
01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I just need to like execute them, you know what,

1557
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 1>shameless plug. I got a bunch of events listed on

1558
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:49.439
<v Speaker 1>poker steak dot com. Go find them by action. Why not, right,

1559
01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be at an apt Las Vegas. I don't

1560
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:52.600
<v Speaker 1>know if you are.

1561
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing.

1562
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you should be. There's a bunch of mixed

1563
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>game stuff on.

1564
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:57.720
<v Speaker 2>The play mixed games. I'll resigned. I'm not good enough.

1565
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll play cash game. That's it. I'm gonna play the

1566
01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:01.640
<v Speaker 2>cash game. Robby has a cash game festival, going to

1567
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:01.920
<v Speaker 2>play some.

1568
01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 1>He is bringing his quote unquote mixed game festival to

1569
01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Resorts World, and then I think the the mixed game

1570
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 1>events on a present at the schedule are presented by

1571
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:13.760
<v Speaker 1>card Lifestyle. So good for Robbie there.

1572
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna play the cash games, donate a few bucks,

1573
01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.840
<v Speaker 2>try and win a few bucks. We'll say I'm probably

1574
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:23.640
<v Speaker 2>going to fire the nap t Cup, and.

1575
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you, probably yet on the

1576
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Poker Masters streams REMCO, every time we promoted an APT

1577
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas, he said he was going to come play

1578
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the Mystery Bout zero. Do you really think he's gonna

1579
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I hope he does.

1580
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:40.000
<v Speaker 2>When was the last time he played a poker.

1581
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he needs to come play. And

1582
01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the Mystery Valain is perfect because like you can just

1583
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>get lucky in whatever. He's not coming, but that's that

1584
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:48.159
<v Speaker 1>would be a good one to play too, to kick

1585
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>things off. That one an APT Cup, I think playing

1586
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:55.800
<v Speaker 1>on playing the they have a run Good Open in

1587
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>partnership with Run Good.

1588
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.159
<v Speaker 2>How much is that eleven too much?

1589
01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a two day event. Think it has

1590
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>two flights on the first day, Okay, first one is

1591
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:06.680
<v Speaker 1>regular second later once when they do that, Yeah, and

1592
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:09.560
<v Speaker 1>then obviously day two I'm gonna play the main event,

1593
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:13.000
<v Speaker 1>which I think is gonna be I think it's gonna

1594
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>be really big.

1595
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:16.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, good price point fifty.

1596
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Three price point three million dollar guarantee. So there's that,

1597
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and then that NPT Cup five hundred fifty dollars buy

1598
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's three hundred k guaranteed in that one,

1599
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:25.319
<v Speaker 1>so I'll be firing in that one. And then all

1600
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 1>three of those events of mine are on poker stake

1601
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>dot com. You can find them as well as I'm

1602
01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 1>playing on bracelet events. But you got those listed, Yeah,

1603
01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I do actually have those listed. I'm only going to

1604
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>play I think, on Sundays. But it's really interesting because

1605
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.079
<v Speaker 1>they have all these bracelet events, but they're they're not

1606
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.399
<v Speaker 1>every day, okay, so like they take some days off,

1607
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like they took them Monday off, which is kind of acceptable,

1608
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but you know, because Monday is just not a big

1609
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 1>day and all in poker, and then they have one

1610
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. I don't think they had one on Wednesday whatever.

1611
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:58.439
<v Speaker 1>But then they also have these online championships which they

1612
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>announced on social media. Yet you can't like find the

1613
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>schedule anywhere other than the client. So I think that

1614
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:10.039
<v Speaker 1>that's weird. Even Daniel mcgrondniy like commented.

1615
01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:10.319
<v Speaker 2>On all that.

1616
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He was like, hey, guys, like you might can you

1617
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:15.680
<v Speaker 1>put the schedule like somewhere on you know, wisip dot com.

1618
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe it's on there now, let me check.

1619
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Woy you have the ninth Oh no, you have the.

1620
01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't say my name.

1621
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't say your name. I'm saying you're the eighth featured

1622
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.560
<v Speaker 2>player on Focusing dot com. I've on the list. I'm

1623
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:30.199
<v Speaker 2>just telling anything.

1624
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I post a lot of stuff on there. I think

1625
01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a great platform for that sort of stuff.

1626
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they finally this photo.

1627
01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a great foot It's.

1628
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Terrible they did.

1629
01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:42.039
<v Speaker 1>They did. Uh, they did post the online championships finally

1630
01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:43.760
<v Speaker 1>on a dot com.

1631
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>But it shouldn't be up to as to ask for it.

1632
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Should just that should be the first thing you think about.

1633
01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And even even the online bracelets. I mean they they

1634
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>announced them like nine days beforehand, Like I mean I

1635
01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>know that, Like they're obviously geared towards the states where

1636
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you can play on dot com. But maybe for a

1637
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 1>big series like that, you get some people that say, hey,

1638
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll come from Colorado and come come getting

1639
01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Airbnb and just play online. Like maybe maybe you do

1640
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:11.680
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Right. I took third in one of

1641
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the online championship events. Just want to point that out.

1642
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Platt one one wow. He won the I believe

1643
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:19.319
<v Speaker 1>was the five hundred dollars mystery bounty that they had

1644
01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>for fourteen k or something like that. So shout out,

1645
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeff flat what do.

1646
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.279
<v Speaker 2>You have a trophy event.

1647
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:31.039
<v Speaker 1>So you you compete for like some sort of championship belt.

1648
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that like it has a leader board. I

1649
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>mean there's a crap ton of events. I mean it's

1650
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:39.199
<v Speaker 1>like every day, there's like every day, I think there's

1651
01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a warm up event like in the like morning or

1652
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>early afternoon, which is like a very small buy in,

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01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 1>and then I actually like what they've done here is

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01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.399
<v Speaker 1>that they do every day they have a bronze, silver,

1655
01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>and gold level, so like bronze is obviously the lowest

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01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>buying Like yeah, so I think that that's that's pretty cool.

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01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So like you know, like like on the day that

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01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>when Jeff won the Mystery Bounty, you know, they had

1659
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a thirty three, a one hundred, and a five hundred,

1660
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.239
<v Speaker 1>which I think that that's a good way to do stuff.

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01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, so they have that. I mean, it's

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01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it's actually funny. So they announced the twenty twenty four

1663
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Doubasip online, world's largest online poker festival. Okay, that takes

1664
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>place September twenty ninth through November twelfth. It is thirty

1665
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>three bracelet events. I mean, it's a Ton. I mean

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01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:28.800
<v Speaker 1>this is also if you pair this with if you're

1667
01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.720
<v Speaker 1>coming out for NPG Las Vegas, there's a lot of

1668
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>bracelet events happening, so you can play online too, so

1669
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.079
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a good time to be in Las

1670
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Vegas for that. But then also they have these online

1671
01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>championships that are running from September twenty ninth through October

1672
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:47.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh. Then they have aubas AP Online Super Circuit

1673
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.079
<v Speaker 1>that is running October fifth through twenty second, so all

1674
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>three these same things are happening at the same time.

1675
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:58.399
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, it's a lot of stuff happening. A

1676
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff happening. The upgrade to the WSP platform

1677
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is god, it's such a blessing.

1678
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1679
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's probably one or two things that might

1680
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>need to be improved a little bit, but overall, I mean, god,

1681
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.199
<v Speaker 1>it's thank god they did it. Thank God they did it.

1682
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 1>It's it's awesome. And the player pools have been good

1683
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously with the inclusion of Michigan, so it's good to see.

1684
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw I was reading something on I

1685
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.239
<v Speaker 1>think Poker Fuse or maybe Poker Industry Pro, I can't remember.

1686
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>They said that they anticipate. Oh I saw. I went

1687
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to the site and I saw a banner for betmjam

1688
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Nevada like they had they had doubsip dot com Nevada Review,

1689
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but then right next to it they had betemgam Nevada Review.

1690
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's weird. Benem Jam's not in Nevada.

1691
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>And I clicked it and it was like, we anticipated

1692
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 1>to launch this year.

1693
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:46.279
<v Speaker 2>So I was like twenty four.

1694
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it said this year if not said

1695
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. But I mean, I just I thought

1696
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that that was interesting, right, I mean, it's October, so

1697
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that would mean yeah, here betmgam Poker Nevada review. Let

1698
01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>me click on it. I'm on poker. We predict that

1699
01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:04.279
<v Speaker 1>bet mgm will launch its online poke room in Nevada

1700
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>at some point this year. Is the first sentence.

1701
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:08.439
<v Speaker 2>That's the way being pokefuser.

1702
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the poker Fuse people are extremely tapped in

1703
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and they generally know it. Goes on to say the

1704
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>operator holds the necessary license from the Nevada Gaming Control Board,

1705
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and everything looks in line for it to become the

1706
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:26.039
<v Speaker 1>first online poker operator to join w SOP dot com

1707
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in the state. Well, isn't that incorrect? Because Ultimate Poker

1708
01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>was in the state, and I think South Point didn't.

1709
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:35.479
<v Speaker 1>They have some weird thing that lasted like a week

1710
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>or a month or something. I'm pretty sure they did

1711
01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>south Point and there was like three people that played.

1712
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:41.479
<v Speaker 1>By the way, you brought up the four and allar

1713
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.239
<v Speaker 1>tournament at South Point, which I think is now gone.

1714
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think what I'm pretty sure that it lasted one

1715
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:50.439
<v Speaker 1>time because I didn't play a bit, I know, but

1716
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying they had that. I think the four and

1717
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>doll price point is too high. I think it needs

1718
01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 1>to be three hundred. Do they have a two in

1719
01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>dollar tournament?

1720
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? If the Friday Saturday is not two hundred.

1721
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I think I think the Sunday one should be.

1722
01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>If they have a big one on Sunday, should be

1723
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>three hundred. That would be my thing. But anyway, we're

1724
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:09.479
<v Speaker 1>just talking about a bunch of nonsense now and it's

1725
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>been way too long. That's gonna do it for this

1726
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:16.239
<v Speaker 1>episode unless you have anything else, No, sir, Big month

1727
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:20.279
<v Speaker 1>of Poker on Poker Go in October. We have the

1728
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>PLO series which is coming up, and then we have

1729
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Super high Rollable PLO of course, High six Poker and

1730
01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:30.880
<v Speaker 1>now Gamble in the Future are running. We have next

1731
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>month the Texas PLO Roundup, which I know Tim is

1732
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>freaking pumped for. I didn't know the guy cared.

1733
01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>About PLO, Like everyone loves it.

1734
01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>You are like the I know you're the PGT Commissioner,

1735
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>but you're also like the PLO commissioner, just with how

1736
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>much like you've like this the PGT PLO series, like

1737
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>doing the series down in Texas, Like you know all

1738
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>these guys coming this month, they'll fucking love you, like

1739
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing for like that specific game, you know

1740
01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like you are like the de facto

1741
01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>ploer and a lot.

1742
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Ever play it.

1743
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Do you think the the PLO

1744
01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>series is gonna be big or like some pullback or.

1745
01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it'll be good. It's it's hard to

1746
01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>all the guys all the ill I have to assume

1747
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>they're all coming. But until I see people walk in,

1748
01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>that first event is always when I know we're going

1749
01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>to be big. But we'll see. There's no distractions this year,

1750
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>there's no splits of the schedule. The the sup By

1751
01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>roller Ball falls after and I think that's good. All

1752
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the big stuff around town is not happening, so I'm

1753
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>bullish on it as always. It's plo. It's gonna get

1754
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>people to come from all around the country and we'll

1755
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>be good.

1756
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Sweet all right, Well that's gonna be for us. My

1757
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>name is Donny Peters, his name is Tim Duckworth. Hit

1758
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that like, hit that, subscribe, do the damn thing. You

1759
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>guys know how to help us grow and we appreciate it.

1760
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>And again, if you're at any BT Las Vegas in

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01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>early November, comes say hi to Tim and I. We'll

1762
01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:53.239
<v Speaker 1>be there for a few days. Talk to you guys later.

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01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>So you
