Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Side Request. This is our weekly
video game shows here at GI Verse. I'm your host,
Dylan Wilson. Have the Reign of Chaos with me today.
Kirkland pats are Kirkland with a K, just like Mortal Kombat.
How are you doing, my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm doing very good. Yeah, I come it off with
Comic CON's some big announcements there, but yeah, I know,
I'm doing pretty good. It's a good day so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Good shout out. We did just did
some coverage of all the Comic Con announcements and there's
also a couple of gaming things, so we're gonna talk
about those today, along with some of the games we've
been playing, and some multiverses off of Hot Off last
week's episode, which we kind of centered around roughly the
idea of multiverses but what if Disney had done that instead?
So should be a fun episode, and yeah, let's get
right into it. Let's talk about the games we've been
playing first off, and I want to start with the
game that I've been playing for the last week or
so here called Dungeons of Hinterberg. I don't know if
you remember seeing this one. Kirkland It's kind of been
advertised by Microsoft a lot, so I don't know if
you've watching an other showcases might have seen it, because
it's a game pass game here, So this just came
out recently. It is a it's an interesting game. I
want to talk about this in a few different angles,
but first I guess just like the premise of it,
it's kind of a it's a game set on the
planet Earth modern day. But the hook of it here
is that a few years ago, out of over no where,
these anomalies popped up where there's these certain spots on
the Earth where these just huge magic anomalies started happening.
This is like a world that has no magic at
this point, so it's kind of strange just magic pops up.
All these dungeons pop out of nowhere, monsters start coming
out of these portals near these towns and whatnot. But interestingly,
like rather than that being like a terrifying thing that
traumatizes everyone in the world, everyone's kind of cool with
it and they're like, damn, this is kind of interesting.
We love magic. Magic's cool, and so this is this
is fun. And so the game is set in this
town of Hinterberg, which is kind of this beautiful mountainside
village in the Alps, and this is kind of like
the main spot where this magic has been occurring. So
in Hinterburg there's all these dungeons and these creatures, and
so it kind of turns this town, which is like
this peaceful little mountain town that would only be you know,
like no one really have any reason to come here,
now it becomes like this huge tourist trap like attraction
where people vacation here to come, you know, get access
to magic and come fight enemies and go solve puzzles
in dungeons. So I really like that it kind of
takes like what could be like an apocalyptic type scenario
and instead turns it into like a cozy game. Like
this game is very much a cozy vibe. It's very pleasant,
it's very chill. That's also supported by the art style,
the aesthetics. Generally, it has like a really nice kind
of comic book sort of aesthetic to it, or has
kind of like the polka dot the polka dot like
comic book, like nice cell shading and all that, very
bright and colorful, like your main character, your paint and
ias like names Louise Luisa or Louise something like that.
She has like a teal jacket and like pink hair,
Like it's very colorful and vibrant, and then the music
is also just super viby and chill. It's very reminiscent
of Tunic. And then it's just very like Ethereal and
kind of just you just relaxed playing this game, even
though you're like doing combat and like solving these tricky puzzles,
and there's big chaotic moments and whatnot. So it's kind
of an interesting mixture of a whole bunch of different things.
But the actual gameplay of it, it's kind of split
into different sections. There's section where you're just exploring, talking
to people walking around town, and then there's the dungeon sequences,
which have like combat in them and then puzzle solving.
Usually it's like you go in one room, fight some
men is, next room, solve a puzzle, next room enemies,
the next room puzzle. It kind of just goes through that.
But yeah, I like that the game like sets up
right at the beginning of what you're doing. It's like
there are twenty five dungeons in this game, and you
just gotta get you just gotta beat them. That's that's it.
That's the whole game. Like I'm sure there's some twists
and turns that are gonna happen at different points, but
it kind of just sets up like what you're gonna
do and just says, hey, go have free ray and
go do this however you want. There is you know,
like things unlock as you go through, so you don't
have access to everything from the very get go. But
I think I don't really think of this as like
a Kirkland game, Like it doesn't really the gameplay, the vibe.
I don't know if it's really up your alley. But
there are a couple elements that I think you might
like about it. One is that this game very much
has like the death loop structure of it, where it
has like the three times of day, like the morning
and the afternoon, evening and then the night time. And
so whenever you wake up in the morning, usually your
character will like just be having morning coffee talking to someone,
and then you choose like which area you want to
go to, Like there's you know, the icy area, the
mountain Bio, the four is biome, and that's where you go.
There you're gonna hiking around exploring, and then you'll eventually
find a dungeon and that's probably where you're gonna spend
your morning. And so once you choose to enter a dungeon,
it like will skip past morning. Now that's like what
your morning activity was, and then you're sent back to
the town and you can choose what you want to
do with your afternoon, whether that's like, you know, going
to the shops, or you can spend time with people,
or you can even just go to the movie theater
or just go mess around with other random activities. And
in that way, it's actually kind of a lot like
fire Emblem three Houses, where it's like, Okay, I have
limited time, who do I want to spend my time with?
And so you can do it with like I think
this person's interesting or coolant I want to know more
about them, So that's how you could make your decision.
Or it's like, you know, all these decisions also factor
into like how you're leveling up your character too, So
I like that there's kind of like this two sides
to hanging out with people, one just to get to
know them, but also you can also you can go
in your book, your little journal and see like at
each tier of familiarity with this person, this is like
the thing you're gonna unlock. So you can also just
spend all this time with someone just to you know,
get whatever that unlock is too. And then at the
night you always go back to your room, and I
feel like you can look later in the game. I'm
guessing you un lock the ability to do stuff there.
So far, it's just my character is always like I'm
really tired, I'm gonna go to bed, But there's like
a TV and there's like different books and things, so
I'm guessing you can maybe interact with those, or maybe
if you didn't do a dungeon, maybe your character is
not super tired and you can like do additional activities
in that way. I'm not too sure, but I really
like that structure of it. I haven't seen another game
since definitely like break up that structure by like morning, afternoon,
night and how you want to spend those times. And
even though it's very different in terms of the actual
gameplay of it, I like that it kind of is
reminiscent of that structure that Death lopas, so that part
of it is pretty cool. And then there's just a
lot of really smart like RPG mechanics, like the way
you're leveling up your character here. The combat is very
much like hack and slash kind of button masher, but
you're getting spells as you're going through, you're getting different abilities,
so that makes it a little bit more engaging. The
column's probably my least favorite part of the game, but
it's you know, it's good enough to get by seeing
all sorts of different enemy types and whatnot. But yeah,
like there's all sorts of different RPG systems. Like as
I said, with those characters, you're getting different inventory items,
you know, changing your gear out. And then there's also
this thing that is similar to like Near's upgrading system
or at least Near Automata, where it has like you know,
you have like a certain amount of slots and like
you know, certain charm they're called charms, and so you
can put in like maybe two or three really strong charms,
or you can put like a bunch of weak ones
in you kind of fit in them, trying to fit
them into the allowable space, so you can try to
maximize how much you can fit in there. So this
when I'm playing through this game, I'm just I'm noticing
a lot of little things taken from other games in
like a really playful way where it's like, oh, what's
a cool little mechanic from Three Houses, What's a cool
thing from Near Automata. How can we kind of take
that and dilute it down into what's useful for this
game and its mechanics. So all of that is is
really nice. I just love the kind of flow of
gameplay here. It's just so peaceful and chill. And then yeah,
like that, actual dungeons so far have been really good,
Like the puzzles are really fun, it's not too long.
The combat, like I said, it's it's all right, gets
the job done. So yeah, definitely big recommend on Dungeons
of Pinterberg. I'm I'm really enjoying it. And yeah, even
just like the character. The story of it is like
your character's coming to this place, come into comfort, a vacation,
but also just you're just so sick of like the
day to day work grind and just wants to get
away and live in this kind of fantasy land and
just likes it so much better here, which is like
a very relatable thing for anyone probably, but particularly me
as well. So I really like that element of it too,
And that's what a lot of the conversations of you're
having with people here is you're finding out like why
are they here? How long have they been in this place?
And what are they what do they get out of
being here, and like what is their life back home?
And everyone kind of has like their different takes on that,
which is really interesting. So yeah, having a really good
time in this game. It reminds me of like the
opening to stardew Value if you've ever picked that one.
It's just like you're got your day to day job
and then you just get like a letter.
Speaker 2: It's like your uncle or grandfather or whatever it is.
You just he's dying and the farm's yours, so you
just like leave your life to go go just be
a farmer, and like that's that's just how that starts.
But yeah, this look, I mean, it looks really cool.
I really like the art style and just the different
characters and like creature designs and whatnot. I don't remember
seeing this game at all, but the art style is
definitely what pops out the most of me. It looks
really cute and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely I don't think I've played anything from this
developer before, so they're definitely on my radar. Now. I'm
going to keep playing through this once again. That is
on game Pass, so you can go check it out there. Kirkle,
how about you? What have you been playing lately? Busy lately?
I've been very busy lately in your minute that you
do have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, my what I've been playing has been pretty
It's gonna be pretty boring. I really haven't been playing much.
I think the last time I was really playing a
good game was Elden ring a in and I where
I'm at right now is I'm getting pretty close to
I think taking on god Godric. Got Godric one of
those guys like big big night character. I think an
update that's happened is the last time I talked to
you about it was I have beat in what's his name,
Margret Market the bell Omen, that guy I went back
after gaining some confidence and took on the tree set
and all I took him out, so that that was
a nice success moment of when you first see him,
you're like, hey, that's that's just something I'm going to the.
Speaker 1: First guy that even come back and take him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, It's that's fun. But no, I really haven't
been jumping into too much, like just every once in
a while, every day or so, just jumping onto Marvel Snap,
especially coming off of Deadpool Wolverine. The Deadpool event that's
going on right now, has been fun to kind of
just participate in that, but uh no, kind of boring.
I haven't really had much time to be playing games,
and you know, we got our awesome g V Day
coming up, so I've been grinding out those last few
movies as well as some retros over and so yeah,
my time's a little a little preoccupied, but you know,
it'll pass. It's nice that we're getting some major headway
on our rhinos, so now it's like, okay, we can
actually see the end approaching, as opposed at the start,
you're like, this is never gonna end. Why do we
do this? Yeah, it'll be nice and refreshing afterwards and
then clear up some gaming time. So yeah, nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in a similar boat to you, where just
the grind of watching movies right now is taking them
all my time. So I'm playing like very light things
that I can maybe like half pay attention, half play
my game, So Marvel Snap's a class and one a
couple others that I'll save for future episodes. And then yeah,
like Alien as well, Like I'm playing through Alien Isolation
right still, and I'm like halfway through the game. It's
much longer than I expected it to be, so that's
taking a lot more time than I thought it would.
I think that'll be next week's episode. So for anyone listening,
if you play that game, have any questions or thoughts
or opinions on it, please send them my way, whether
that be the Discord or Patreon or YouTube comment wherever
you want to put it. And I love to include
that the episode. I think it'll be just me and
Taylor on that one, so that should be a fun discussion.
How's your uh, how's your fallow Out four playthrough? Is that?
Is that to the wayside or is that still ongoing?
Speaker 2: Well, I would like to think it's still ongoing, and
I haven't booted it up since the last time we
talked to you about it, so yeah, that's kind of
where it's at right now.
Speaker 1: But now I know if it was like now that
you're done the show, like the hype level fell off,
and especially Elden. The Ring, you know, can kind of
take you away totally, Yeah, but I do. I would
love to hear some more thoughts on that if you
continue with that play through. I think I just saw
that that I was talking about follow up London that
like DLC not an official thing, but that mod rather
is actually out now. So I'm gonna when I'm done
Alien Isolation, when i have some more free time here,
I'm definitely gonna redownload that. So maybe in August I'll
jump into that, and I'm excited to get back in
there with you, so it'll be fun.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I feel like every time I pick up
maybe like an old Elder Scrolls game or something. It's
probably Skyrim most of the time, but I feel like
when I'm doing a play through for character, I have
like a certain goal in mind, and when I like
when I reach that, because those games are so like
long and daunting, and you can just they're just time sinks,
and I feel like once I get to like a
certain point of like, hey, I did kind of everything
I want to do with this character, that's kind of
when I bench it. So definitely haven't hit that point
yet in my fallow up runs, so definitely want to
be jumping back into there. But yeah, time is uh,
time is thin these days now.
Speaker 1: I find that a lot with Bethesda Games for myself,
where you know, when whenever these games first come out,
I play the fuck out of them, and I do
like all the major quest lines, spends so much time
in the game, and then it's like I don't have
infinite time. So when I want to revisit those games,
usually I do that with my characters. I'll role play
as like okay, and this character's goal is gonna be
one very specific thing, like Marwind. Maybe I'm going to
like go through the Fighters Guild this time, or I'm
gonna go play through the Imperial Cult storyline. Do that again,
and like every few like every play through whatever, every
couple of years. If I jump back in, you know,
I'll do one like shorter thing so I can kind
of reminisce on that get back in there. But then
also I like that from a character perspective, that I'm
not the master of everything and instead I just kind
of have one kind of simpler goal in mind. So
that's that's a more manageable way or a digestible way
I should say to tackle up Bethesda game, which is
just infinitive.
Speaker 2: Right, oh, exactly. One of my favorite runs that I've
done on Skyrim was I try to make like a
passivist character, which is just hilarious to just not kill anyone,
just just like really use like either like like fear
scrolls or like like just non lethal ways to take
people out, which they don't really make those games like
like for that reason. So a lot of like running
away from random mobs even just like some wolves crow
up on you. Like my character is like I would
just be a runner, so I would just be sprinkling away,
and it like it's pretty hard to do that, especially
if you get into some quests because they force you
into combat a lot of the times. But it was
a fun challenge on the last because I just really
had to think about, like how am I even going
to get to just this one location. I would usually
pick up like side quests like like just just fetching
goals where like I have to go get something for someone,
and just like really trying to think on how I
could tackle situation non lethally, and it was it was
a fun character. I did end up killing people, but
I was able to hold off for as long as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those of the game is hard to be
a true pacifist.
Speaker 2: They don't really give me the next elder scrolls. Maybe
they'll add more non lethal options.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but yeah. Other other than that, I've also been
playing some just multiplayer things with a friend we like
I mentioned Circuit Superstars with you a couple of weeks ago.
Still been playing that. It's been fun to do some
racing there, some Splunky two which has been good. And
then that also took me back to multi versus. So
I didn't end up talking about this on side quest,
but I meant to, and that was a perfect time
because there's some some news and some data mine. So
let's talk ABU Multiverses a little bit here. So this
game relaunched again back in May I think it was,
and when it did I played quite a lot of
it in that In that first like two or three weeks,
I was really in there, like playing every day, checking
out the new characters, like Jason, for example, from Friday
the thirteenth, who was really fun, Like I love his
move set in there. He's very slow, lumbering type character,
but so much damage. Has some silliness in his move
set there. He can kind of reminds me of Ike
from Smash Bros. In terms of, yeah, just being like
a little bit slower moves, have a lot more charge
time on them, but they just feel so fricking good
whenever you get a hit. So that's been really fun.
And then I kind of just fell off of it.
I think part of that is because I was playing
through it and I'm like, man, I really like this
game quite a lot, and I love that has the
multiplayer focus, but I just fucking hate that this is
a live service game. I absolutely hate that part of it.
I would love if I could just give these guys
forty fifty bucks to just have the access to the game,
have all the characters, have to diferent costumes and different
content and whatnot. I really hate the piecemeal nature of it.
It's just to me, doesn't fit at all with a
with a platform fighter, and I think it's working for
them financially. And you know that studio, as we talked
about last week briefly on side quests, like they did
get acquired by Warner Bros. Now, so they aren't just
like an indie studio making like a I guess a
double a game in that sense, they're they're now owned,
so obviously that means they're like making money, I would think,
unless they're just acquiring them because they want them to
make another game. But even then that made me think
that this game is doing pretty well. But yeah, I
just I just hate that element of it, and I
think that really takes me out of it when I
only have access to like the four weekly rotation characters,
plus like the two or three that I own, and
I have enough coins now I could buy like a
character or two, but I don't know. It's it's just
if I if I spend, It's like I know, when
I spend some of those tokens, it's gonna take me
so long to build up enough to get a new character.
So really hard to make that decision. So that's like
my main con about the game, and I just I
just wish it was structured differently. But it has been
fun playing in jumping in there. And then season two
for the game just came out, which added Samurai Jack
as the battle pass character, and then Beal Juice is
coming later on, so really nice timing for them on
getting Beal Juice in there, that'll probably he'll probably be
in the game, like right before the movie comes out,
or maybe even a few weeks early. But either way,
that's a pretty nice pairing that they had there. So
Beetle Juice isn't in the game yet as far as
I know, I think he's just like you know, in
a few weeks he'll be out. But Samurai Jack is
in there, and I haven't played with me because I
don't have the battle pass, but holy shit, he is
so freaking strong and like the few games I've played
against him, because you know, he's got the huge ass sword,
so he has really huge range, kind of like disjointed
hip boxes. But usually characters like that, like a Marth
or something and Smash or as I mentioned Ike, like
usually their sword is like, you know, longer swing time,
so it's like it's strong, it has range, but like
you know, the hip box, only like you have to
be pretty precisely with your movements right now. I haven't
played sam i'm r Jacket, have only played against him,
but in those times, it's like, man, his moves are
really fast, the eved insane range, his specials are crazy
and you can close the distance super well. I can't
perceive a weakness on him. I'm not gonna call him
op because I'm not very good at this game generally,
but goddamn, he is super strong and it's one of
those things where it makes you want to like pay
for the battle Pass because you want to have access
to this guy because he's super strong. And even though
I don't know, like I've ever watched that show, I've
no nostalgia for it, he does look really fun and
like a place style I'm into. So whenever he's purchasable
outside of like actually spending real money, I'll probably pick
him up and be excited to play him there. But
he's been a fun addition to the game. I'm curious.
I feel like we talked about Multiverse a few months
ago and you were interested in jumping in when it
came out again. Unless I'm just mistaken there, but I
don't think you have What do you think that's going
to take you to jump in there and be interested.
Speaker 2: I feel like if the main thing from like I
definitely want to jump back in there, I feel like
what would push it up my priority list is if
I had likew co Opsite sitting that like I had
people here that wanted to play it, or maybe like
just comboing with someone online just just like I feel
like it's a type of game that's just better with friends.
So if I had that motivation, I would definitely get
on it sooner. So who knows, maybe we'll have to
jump on there one of these days to get my
licks in, because I have been really wanting to jump
in ever since. I feel like I haven't played since
they added a lot of characters, Like yeah, like I
want to be so bold as to say, like I
think like Velma was like the last inclusion, which like, yeah,
that's like a pretty iron giant and all those characters.
So yeah, it's it's been a hot minute, and I
I'm definitely interested, even just pairing with the other news
that we were going to talk about today of like
some of the other characters. It's got me h, it's
got the the interest levels up. But like I am
completely in agreement with you on like the live service
portion of the game. I think that's for me at least,
that's my least favorite part about it is just grinding
for those characters. But I mean, as you said, it's
it seems like it's working for them financially and as
a business model. So don't see it stopping anytime soon.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not. Yeah, I think this is last since
the last time I played. They added like Lebron James,
you know from Looney Tunes or what they call a
space jam space jam, uh stripe, and and what's his
name from Gremlins. They add some more DC, like tons
of DC characters in this game across the board, and uh,
Lebron James is great, Like his move set is so
cool and unique, like that's I was praising this last
week on our on Our side Quest episode. But their
move sets, like the animation, and then just like the
creativity of making these character move sets is so fucking
top notch, Like the fact that Tom and Jerry's whole
move set is like those two characters attacking each other,
but then that those turn into moves that you're hitting
opponents with is honest. It's so admirable, how how well
they are, how creatively they came up with these move sets,
and like the animation to back it up. Because of that,
there are like some janky hip boxes every once in
a while, well, but like for the most part, it's
so impressive, so yeah, and like I finally played Joker
because he was the last month's season past character, I believe,
So he's finally he's like in the free rotation this week,
so I was playing some games with him. He has
a great move set once again as everyone else does.
So yeah, it's such a fun game, and I would
just love to spend more time with these characters. And
I don't know, it'd be like in theory, would be
fun for us to throw the song on a twenty
four hours stream or like gv day, but like, since
we don't have access to many characters when we're playing it,
it would be like, Okay, I guess we'd play a
few matches with like four characters, Like if I could
sign it on my account, I guess we'd have access
to like two or three more. But it's just unfortunate
the way it is. Like I guess when they were
making it, you know, thinking about like the value proposition,
it's like, you know what, I probably wouldn't spend eighty
dollars on this game, So maybe that's where they were like, Okay,
we'll get let's go live service instead, But I'd probably
spend like forty or fifty bucks if I had access
to everything at once, and I guess that's equivalent to
like three or four, maybe five season passes. I don't know,
So I don't know. I guess it is working out
for them, and I do hope this game has a
long life, because I do want to see some of
these rumored characters that we're going to get into here.
But yeah, I think the only other thing with season
two that I really noticed there's a new map, which
is which is cool. And then they added ranked play finally,
which has not been out yet. It's always just been
like unranked, so you get kind of all sorts of
range of skill levels. I don't think I'm really into
this game enough to really want to get deep on
the ranked side. I'll probably just continue to play unranked,
or maybe I'll jump into rank a little bit, but
since I don't have many, Like here's one thing weird
with the rank mode is you can only play as
characters that you have purchased like with your with your
tokens or you know, or with real money to have them.
So because that I only can play ranked with like
two or three characters, because I usually am just playing
like the free rotation ones, so that kind of makes
me not incentivice play rank. But I also obviously I'm
not plain enough to really care too much about that,
so not a big deal. But yeah, let's talk a
little bit more about some of these Data Mind characters.
So this game has said all sorts of leaks and
rumors and characters like way long go. Remember there was
a screenshot of Gandolphin game we were all very excited about.
That was before the game even came out, and that
never ended up being the case. Maybe further down the
road they could finally get the rights figured out with
that and get Lord of the Rings characters in there,
but none of that yet. I remember there was like
Johnny Bravo has been like a big like rumored character.
He's still not in the game. But this most recent
one is that there was some screenshots, and I don't
think these screenshots are up anymore. Maybe you can find
them somewhere, but I think the Twitter account that posted
this stuff gott nuked and isn't up anymore, so I
couldn't find these images. But there was images of what
seems like Harry Potter map, like a Hogwarts type setting,
and also a Barbie, a Barbie type map like a
Barbie house kind of thing, which I think that would
be great. And I actually think Barbie has a character
could be fun too. There's just so many like accessories
and gadgets and whatever that I think you could make
a really fun move set with Barbie, and especially off
the popularity from that movie last year. But Harry Potter's
always been like the two big ones for us have
always been like Harry Potter and Rings because those are
Warner Bros. If they could get those figured out and
get them in the game, those would be like the
hugest Ip Like, I guess those would be comparable with
DC in terms of how relevant those franchises are in
terms of the game's popularity. But yeah, no characters with
this Harry Potter thing for now, just the map, which
would lead us to believe that there would be some
characters added to I mean, I think the most likely
ones would be like Harry Ron and Hermione, and I
think Baltimore too, because it seems like they do like
having their villains in here for this game. Yeah, and
then like I don't know, maybe Hagard, Like who else
do you think would be? I think Haggard would be cool.
Just because it'd be kind of different.
Speaker 2: Give them like the Warrior bike too, give him.
Speaker 1: The warrior bike. Yeah, his dog could help him out
to get the umbrella the lanterns, smashing people with that
I think could be really fun. But I think those
to me would be like the five most likely. I
don't really know who else. Yeah, maybe they could do
with Trayco or something, but like, yeah, it's hard to
think of people whould be super different, Like a lot
of them would just be using same type of wand
type moves, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever characters they have, I would love if they
threw in like the Chamber of Secrets map with just
like that thrown area whatever. It is really great, just
the look of it is. I love that room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that's something that like if I don't
have enough coins for it, like I would shove out
a few dollars to get access to that battle pass,
probably to get presumably Harry would be the battle pass
character for that, And I just think there's so much
potential there obviously of all the different spells, and like
the broom would be a perfect recovery move. I can
already picture like the clumsy nature of like Ron versus
like Harry and his kind of spells that he would
have access to. Uh, and then like Hermione with her
kind of bookish type skills as well. I think could
be really interesting. So I don't know, I would I
would absolutely love that and I hope they get that
sorted out because that would be a huge ip for
them to have in there. Oh yeah, but that got you.
I'm guessing that would bring you in at least for
a few games to check out some of those characters.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like the big
winner for me is still the ever loos of Lord
of the Rings characters. But uh yeah, I feel like
just pairing with the Harry Potter and what different mechanics
or I guess just character archetypes, like have they been
adding new I know they've like Bruisers, range Melee or
like Assassin. Have they been adding like new archetypes like
that the games come out or it's kind of been
the same just fighting.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've added like a different archetype that. Yeah,
so it's it's yeah, like Bruiser, Uh one of them.
I don't think you mentioned. You mentioned all of them.
I think except for Mage, which is one.
Speaker 2: Which is more like tank. I didn't say, actually yeah tank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so mages are kind of more like projectiles, a
lot of traps, like spell based characters, but also yeah,
just characters in general. Like I think Morty is like
a mage type because he just has a lot of
like guns and weird things that he's firing off, so
it's kind of like weird on the archetypes of it.
But yeah, I don't think they've added any new archetypes
necessarily other than like, I don't know, the tank ones
are interesting because Jason does feel like a totally unique
character from anyone else because of how slow he is.
I guess like Iron Giants in that similar vein, but
Iron Giants so weird just because of how tank he is. Like,
there's not really any I can't even think of another
platform fighter in any game that has a character quite
like Iron Giant, Like that's a very unique one just
because of how big and tank he is. But yeah,
I don't know. I think, like obviously all those Harry
Potter characters would make sense in like that mage type role,
with the exception of like maybe Hagrid could be like
a tank kind of guy. And then like I don't
know what. I don't know what type Barbie would be like,
I'm just looking at some other would she be like
an assassin? Like, would she be a I.
Speaker 2: Feel like she could be anything.
Speaker 1: Really, I feel like she could be like an assassin.
That would make sense, and that would be very funny,
a very funny concept if they got that in there.
Speaker 2: Harley Quinn's an assassin. I feel like I could really
see her do anything though, Like they could have gadgets
for being like more of a range character, but I'm
not too sure.
Speaker 1: Bruiser.
Speaker 2: That seems strange to have Barbie as a Bruiser, but
who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could add a new archetype just for just
for Yeah. And then some of the other rumored stuff
for data Mine stuff is references to you Powerpuff Girls
as characters, which I think would be really really good.
That would fit the aesthetic so much, And that was
a show that I liked as a kid, so I'd
be I'd be super into that. Do you think they
would do like a combined move set where it's like
all of them working together, or do you think they
would split them out as like each different characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I feel like it would be
kind of like a combo thing like Pokemon Trainer, I
guess would be the best example, because there's three Pokemon
for that character, wasn't there, so it could be very interchangeably.
Or maybe just have a Powerpuff Girl and then you
can choose the skin. But I don't know they like
they don't really have like skins is another thing that
you have to like unlock with coins, right, so probably
wouldn't be that, but like to take up three roster spots,
I feel like that would be kind of strange, do
you because I can't think that, Like it's hard for
me to run on the show, like what they're distinct
powers are and if But because I think there are
a couple of characters that are like Banana Guard has
like a different, wholly different character that you get like
through a costume. Oh okay, I think like Bugs Bunny.
There's like some female equivalent.
Speaker 1: I can't remember, any money or something, yeah, something like
I think there are a couple other characters that would
only be kind of in there as a costume for
another character. So I guess they could do that, but
I feel like they would maybe just go for one
right now, one of the characters and like one of
the Powerpuff Girls, and then if they want to add
more down the road, they could just add them as
separate characters rather than like locking themselves out from that
right away.
Speaker 2: That'd be so sweet, especially if they add the villain.
Was his name was it Mojo Jojo?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially since you said they're they've been loving their
villains to add in there. But yeah, because the Powerpuff Girls,
I feel like they actually don't have any like distinct
difference amongst powers. They're just there's Powerpuff Girls, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not like elemental right, Like, yeah, they're just strong.
But I think that that's something that they seem to
want to do for most of the IP in there,
is they want at least two characters from them because
because it is like a team focused game or like
that's how they advertise and marketed at least, and the
two V tube mode is so important. A lot of
characters have abilities that like don't even do anything sing
in like one V one, Like they only do something
to buff your teammate or work with your teammate. So
I think that would make sense that they would want
to get a couple of characters in there, like even
like Remlins right has like the two reps. You have
two characters from Steven Universe, two characters from Scooby Doo.
We have like shit ton of DC characters. So for
a lot of the like Adventure Time, it has multiple
So for like, yeah, most of the IP, it seems
like they want to have multiple in there. So I
think for Powerpuff Girls that make sense. But once again,
since they like the villains, I would love to see
that guy in there Mojo Mojo Jojo. That would be fun.
And then the other ones in this in this room
or mill are Marcelene from Adventure Time, who I didn't
look up images.
Speaker 2: Of Marslene's great.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I remember this character. Now, what would her
moveset be? Like?
Speaker 2: What kind of like her guitar's like it's like a
battle axe sort of thing. That would definitely be fun.
She does like she does fly at times, so that
would be a nice recovery to have. And yeah, I'm trying,
I'm trying to remember, like another gadget she probably just has,
like another Oh, a steak would be a good one too,
I guess like a wooden steak she usually has. Okay, interesting,
so they could definitely flesh her out to make a
good character, even a bite. I don't know, like there's
a moment or a couple moments in the show where
she goes like full vampire mode and she's like an
evil beast, so that that could be like a cool special.
Speaker 1: That could be a cool mechanic too, like a vamprism
type cool because there are characters in the game like
that that have kind of like meta mechanics on top
of that, like like Finn I think is really cool.
He has a literal shop, so when you're like hitting people,
like drop coins and then you can like pick up
those coins and then you can buy stuff from your
shop to like improve your move set, which is also
what Chauvelin had in Rivals of Ether, which is funny
that that happened twice, but like, yeah, there's certain characters
that have kind of weird bonus mechanics like that, so
that could be an interesting thing. And then the other
one was a Nubia, who is a DC character looks
like another kind of Amazonian like wonder Woman type character,
and that's another rumored one there. I'm kind of good
on DC characters, like I think they have like six
in there right now, so I'd kind of want them
to focus on other ones for now, But obviously DC
is like an infinite well, and we talked about last
week in our idea or in our fantasy roster for Disney,
how many Marvel characters we do want in there. They
just make sense, like they fit so well on the
platform fighter type sphere, So it makes sense that they're
going to keep adding DC characters, especially if there's clearly
no license issues with that and they can just kind
of have free reign. But I don't know if that
character really excites me, especially if they already have wonder
Woman they I don't know what you would do to differentiate.
I do really like wonder Woman actually, one of my
favorite characters in the game moves O wise, So maybe
maybe I'm selling it short, like maybe i'd be really
into this character. But yeah, I'm surprised that it's a
character I haven't heard of. I thought that'd go for
like the bigger, bigger ones first rather than like the
deep cuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Wonder Woman was also my favorite character
when I played, so shouts out to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so, yeah, that was everything from this particular
this particular data mine. I believe there's been so many
other ones. But yeah, I'm I'm excited for the future
of this game, and I just want to keep playing.
I'm not gonna be playing it every day. I'm not
grinding my dailies on this like I am with Marvel Snap.
I can only afford one of those games in my life,
and yeah, I don't want that from a platform fighter.
I just want to play it when I have a
friend to play with, or when I've getting the anchoring,
get the hankering, or when a new character comes up
that I want to try. But yeah, we should definitely
jump in and play some co op play two two
because it is a very fun game, and yeah, I
want to I want to get I want to get
more into it for sure.
Speaker 2: How many characters are on the free rotation, like when
they do that, I.
Speaker 1: Believe it's four usually, Okay, so right now, is that
how it goes? I think it's every week they to show,
so it's pretty often. Honestly, you can get a taste
for them. And what they do is like they give
you a lot of the Fighter token things like early
on when you're playing, so it I think they what
they're trying to do there is like make it seem
like it doesn't take that long to unlock characters, but
they just make it like you quickly unlock one or
two and then you have to grind fucking hard to
get any more after that. So you know, you can
unlock a couple without too much trouble, and then after
that's gonna be brutal. But right now, and this might
even be up in like a day or two, I
don't know when the week ends, but right now, Joker, Superman, Uh,
who's the other? It's not what's the dog in Adventure Times? Jake, Yeah,
he's in there. He has a fun move set. And
then I think Stripe from Gremlins is like the last
one right now, And then I think everyone has access
to Shaggy at all times. Jason was free ish, but
I don't know if you could still get him for
free if you didn't jump in for like that couple
weeks there. In the Banana Guard from Move Denture Time
was like a free or not free, but like it
was really easy to get on, Like you just had
to play like essentially five matches or something really short
like that to unlock him. So a couple characters they
make it easier to get, but then you're on the
grind for the rest of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah mhm.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think that's everything for multi versus. So let's uh,
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Okay,
we are back. Mortal Kombat had some some announcements going
on at San Diego Comic Con. Here they showed off
a new trailer for the I don't know if it's
is the first story expansion or is it just another
story expansion.
Speaker 2: I believe it's the first one, like the first one
since the game finished, like on the release, because the
first sort of DLC was just Homelander. There's just a
character pack, yeah, Homelander, and I'm trying to remember what
the other characters. Invincible, right, yeah, oh, Omni Man, Yeah,
you're right, Omni Man. Yeah. So this is the first
one that's like continuing on, which I mean, the story
of these Mortal Kombat games to me is just like
such a cinematic experiences and they're so well made. I remember,
like the DLC expansion for the last one, Mortal comb
At eleven, it was like a whole other game, Like
it's crazy how much it actually added so I am.
I am pretty actually excited for this announcement. I don't
know if all rush to I can't remember what the
date was. I think it was sometime in September.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just looking at the actual characters that came
with it got me really really hyped. But yeah, no,
it's st Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I don't think you've you haven't played that game
in a while, have you.
Speaker 2: It's been a hot minute. No, Like I played a
little bit of when the DLC came out, But it's
another game that's just so much better with friends, like
Getting Couch co Opper. Maybe gv Day.
Speaker 1: Well, I would love to play more on GVDA for sure.
You got that first pack, so you haven't the.
Speaker 2: Man and all those characters, so yeah, we could definitely
crack that in. I'm sure Travis would want to play
that too. But these new characters too, Oh my god,
I'm just so hyped. Yeah, ghost Face, Yes, Conan the Barbarian,
which is just such a wild one to me, but
it also it so well. I feel like, just like
a big meaty character like that that just rip someone's
head off is very very fitting. And then t One
thousand from Terminator two. I believe it was one of them,
Noube Sibot. That's like a classic that's a classic Mortal
Kombat character if you don't know the lore, that's like
the original sub Zero. And then after the events of
the first game, he like actually dies and then he
comes back in Mortal Kombat two or three, but he's
like a ghost version of him. And that's Nube Sibot.
And it's a funny name, but what it is is
just Ed Boone's name and the other like co creator.
They just like combine the two to like make Nube Sibot.
He's like he's like a fan favorite character, I would
say for just his his skill set is very different
than what sub Zero would be. So yeah, that's a
really cool character. And then they they gender swapped the
two robot characters that they had with the Sector and Cyrax.
I think is the other one just just really sweet
robotic ninchas, So like to me, that's just I always
love those characters when they when they entered the game
way back in the day, but in Mortal Kombat eleven
they were just like they were in the story, but
you can never play as them and it was even
worse because you like fought against them in the story.
It's like, just give me these characters. I just want
to play as them. I know them, I know the
moves that's in the game, but that is crazy playable.
And then in then in like in the current game,
they have those cameos with the k they call them,
and that's like the the second character that you bring
into the match, and they do like a couple attacks
you might remember from uh when you when you were
playing it there. But so they had Sector maybe Cyrax
as well as like your little buddies that you could
bring in. But now you can actually play as these
gender swot versions, which I think is gonna be awesome
because it's just really cool characters.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I think it's cool that they have a
mix of like for the DLC six characters, three returning
Moral Kombat characters, because that's such a deep roster and
it's such a story focused game that it's a big
moment when those characters come back, and then when they
get like variations like you with Sector and Cyrax, but
then also yeah, like three weird ip crossover characters, and
like I don't know, I don't think I would have
expected any of these. I guess if you're talking Omni
Man and like Homeland or like Okay, I guess anyone's
really up to play. And I'm sure there's been all
sorts of crazy crossover characters over the years, but those
are all very exciting. I think Conan and ghost Face
would be ones that I would particularly be interested in
checking out. And I think even like just those the
fatalities for ghost Face, I can't wait to see what
they do there. I'm sure they're just gonna be really
cheesy and over the top. Are those dealc characters like
Homelander stuff? Are they in story stuff or they or
they just know characters?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just playable characters.
Speaker 1: Do you think these characters will be or will the
story expansion just be on like Sybod and those people.
I mean, they very well could be.
Speaker 2: I feel like Mortal Kombat's done that in the past,
like crossing, like making certain characters canon in the more
Combat universe, like like we have T one thousand, Terminator two,
but like Arnold's been in these games in the past,
as like the Terminator, like every character when they start
combat they actually have like unique dialogue on like whoever
they're facing, so they it's not like they're just like
I'm gonna kick your ass, like they say something very
specific to like that character and the and the universe.
So in that sense, like, even if it's not in
the main story, I guess you could head cannon. It's
a little bit cannon because just the way that they
are aware, they still put the character moments in there. Yeah,
but this very well could be a part of that.
But I don't know. I would imagine the returning characters
are probably more of the story one and then the
like the the IP characters from from their movies are
just kind of thrown in there.
Speaker 1: But hm, did you finish the main story? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did, Okay, Yeah I was. I really really liked it.
I liked it, I think more than eleven story, just
because when I was coming into eleven, I hadn't played
like all the other Mold combats, and that's like that's
like at the that's like if you're jumping into ed game,
like it's just like everything has been like lead to this,
Like Lou Kang is like dead in that game, and
you like fight his ghost and I'm just like I
have no idea what's going on here? So going from
that game to this one, they completely readid the timeline,
so it's like a fresh coat of paint. So yeah,
I really liked it. I thought again, like just cinematically,
all the cinematics look gorgeous and all the mo cap
that they have on their characters, like they just these
games look so good, and they like, what is it?
Oh my gosh, Nether.
Speaker 1: Realm Studios is that the studio?
Speaker 2: I think it is. They're just they're so good at
what they do, you know, Like they make these Mortal
Kombat games as well as oh my god, what's the
DC one Injustice? That one? Yeah, I just God's among us,
that's one of them. Like they do these these arcadie
fighters and they just do them so well and just
just boost them to make them feel more epic every
every time. And I totally think they're achieving that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So what did you did you watch the
trailer for this DLC? Then the story trailer?
Speaker 2: I actually missed the trailer, so I apologize. I was
just reading the article. I didn't realize there was an
actual story trailer.
Speaker 1: I think I dropped the link, but I sent many links,
so I've going from missing.
Speaker 2: It missed in the in the mix. Let me see here.
Speaker 1: I think it's like four minutes long, so we can
want to watch it real quick, we can. If not,
we can just move along. But whatever you have, can
we could probably just move along? Right? Uh yeah, so
that's interesting. It's cool. That's some good updates there September
so that is yeah, before the twenty four hour streams,
so who knows, maybe some of that stuff would get
played on that twenty four hours room. That would be cool.
But either way, I'd love to jump in play some
more on GV day. That would be pretty exciting. One
thing I saw and it seemed like some people were
cheesed about this, and I'm not, of course deep in
the community. I was just on like a random Reddit thread,
is that I guess with this announcement at least, and
maybe it'd be different by the time the DEALC comes out.
But there are no cameo fighter additions so like the
backup fighter guys or people coming for the special moves
as additions here, and I don't think there was for
the first like Homelander DLC pack either, so it seems
like they're just maybe not gonna do that. As as fighters,
how do you feel about that, Like do you want
more variety in there or do you feel like it's
pretty solid what they had and you're like, you know what,
just put all your resources into actual playable characters.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, at the end of the day, if
I had to choose where to spend your resources, I'd
rather the playable characters. I I I I'm always in
the camp of I want more variety, though, like give
me a million characters to choose from, like more characters
than I can even think of of using, especially if
you're like, these games aren't cheap. I want the most
bang for my buck that I can actually get. I
feel like the cameo fighters, like I don't really experiment
with all of them, Like I just kind of choose
the one that i've that I've used, Like Frost I
think is her name, That's the one that I pretty
much always take it. She can freeze characters, and I
just like that mechanic, And yeah, that's just that, like
you for the amount that you actually use them in combat.
Person Like, I'm nowhere near of like a competitive player
in these games, So I don't know if it's like
in the high end community. Like, you know, it's like
these these characters are just un what's the word, Like
they're just so not meta that like maybe they only
choose like one or two in competitive I'm not exactly
sure how that works, but yeah, I think it's completely
reasonable to want or maybe expect, just a couple even
like on these on these DLC releases, just because there
is so many Mortal Kombat characters that you could pull from.
So yeah, I don't know, I'm not really losing sleep
over it. I'm I'm happy to beginning just more playable characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there any like Mortal Kombat mainstay characters that
you want them to add to this game that they
haven't yet aren't on the slate here?
Speaker 2: I feel like I was always let down that Goro
wasn't a playable character in this one. He's he is
like a cameo character. He's the dude with the big
four arms. He's just such an iconic character to me that, like,
I don't even think he's really been playable since maybe
the first or second game, and even really you only
got him if you like actually beat the game, and
he was just so incredibly overpowered. Yeah, I'm I'm that
was one I was wanting going into the new game,
but they didn't add him. I was just kind of,
I guess, having to swallow the pill that he's just
the cameo fighter. Really, I feel like, I feel like
they got all of my favorite ones in here, Like
Smoke was like a big that was another big fan
favorite character that I remember. Even Tyler Sarus mentioned like
that was his favorite character back in the day, so
it was really cool that they had broughten him back.
But yeah, I no, like everyone I feel like that
I want is in there. I don't know. Maybe I'm
just pretty shallow when it comes to my picks on
who i'd want, Because even like a character like Schunk
Soung like he I think he might have been a
deal delC character. I got him because I just pre
ordered the game. Maybe you get him if you beat
the campaign or something like that. But so like, all
of the ones that I would want are actually in there,
which is which is great to have. But uh, yeah,
I guess Goro would be my one pick that would throw.
Speaker 1: It promoted from cameo to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably wouldn't happen in this game, but maybe
in Mortal Kombat too.
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: What is that? Is that? What do you think they'll
call the next one?
Speaker 2: Probably or like yeah, I think it would just be
that it's Mortal Kombat too.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get confusing in the long run, but yea,
do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2: I guess the other thing that they announced that this
dealc is they're they're bringing back animalities.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I saw that. I don't like, is that
a big deal for for you and for me? Not
at all.
Speaker 2: I always thought they were kind of weird, Like it's
just like a different type of fatality where like a
character turns into like an animal and just.
Speaker 1: Oh they turned into the animal. Yeah, they would like
summon them or bring them in. Well, I like, at.
Speaker 2: Least for the ones that I had seen, it is
the character actually turning into an animal, Like Molina was
one example that they used, where she turns into like
a giant priant mantis just chops someone up. There is
of course, Scorpion turns into scorpion.
Speaker 1: So I saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like stuff like that, someone turns into a
hippo stuff Like I feel like the fatalities like I'm
never gonna remember how to like hit all the buttons
for all of these different fatalities, you just kind of
remember one at least for me, for for the character
that I do play as. But even with that, like
that was a bit of a grievance that I had
with the game, go like off of release is just
how hard it is to unlock things for all the characters,
like especially if you're like, for me, if I'm only
playing Malina, I will unlock like all this stuff for Malina.
But if I'm playing couch call up with friends, like,
only player one has all the Malina unlocks, even if
we're doing Malina versus Malina, And it's like, I think
that's kind of grimy, especially like unlike multiverses, this is
a full price game, and like I like, you know,
like I don't know, maybe you're just trying to make
it grind and incentivize people to keep playing it to
unlock things, maybe in more of a single player sense.
But if I'm playing couch co op with friends, like
I just want I just want access to everything. Yeah,
I don't think that's too much to really ask for.
So that's like my biggest call, And I think with
the game overall, I think even Mortal Kombat eleven had
something something similar to that, so I guess it's just
kind of their business model going forward. But it's a
little bit upsetting with that because a lot of these
animalities whatever the hell you call them, probably won't even
be able to do them like playing couch co op
unless you actually unlock them all for each individual character. Yeah,
a bit of a bummer there, But I don't know,
it's kind of cool that they're throwing in throwing them
in there. Some of the videos that I saw, just
some of them looked pretty gruesome and grotesque.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a funny, just weird thing that I'd
never heard of before in like a previous game. So
I'm sure there's some people who are just incredibly hyped
because they never thought they'd go back or something.
Speaker 2: But I can't remember what game they got introduced in,
but like definitely one of the older ones. I remember
seeing it with like kind of crappy graphics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on anything else with Mortal Kombat. I it's
I hope this DLC kind of at least from my perspective,
I feel like the game is kind of, I don't know,
kind of fell off, like it kind of lost its
momentum pretty quickly. And maybe that's not accurate with like
Steam numbers and whatnot, but I just feel like with
Street Fighter six, that game has seemed to have, you know,
gotten pretty popular and pretty relevant, whereas I feel like
this game after like a couple of weeks, it kind
of just fell into the you know, mlang a million
other games that are coming out. So I don't know,
I don't know. Maybe that's not an accurate view of things,
but that's at least my perception of it. But this
DLC is is pretty cool, although I don't I don't
feel like these characters are huge, super massive ones that
are gonna get everyone back into the game. But I
don't know, I think it'll get enough people hopefully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like sourn and wait for that DLC
that would.
Speaker 1: Be sick has that? What has it been? Like the
coolest crossover character from like any of the previous games
they did?
Speaker 2: Editor that was a pretty sweet one. I think m
K nine that was like that one had the xenomorph
as well, like they had Watch of course Aliens Predator
that that's that's always a great match up there. I
feel like everybody loves Arnie, so like when he's been
in it. I feel like he's been in it a
couple of times actually, as as different terminators. But maybe
I'm just misremembering that. But Joker that was a good
release as well. For eleven, they've had, like in the past,
like a lot of interesting crossover ones, like especially like
the big movie type characters like now we're seeing ghost
Face and like John Rambo that was one. Uh actually, yeah,
RoboCop was a really cool one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'd be really fun. Yeah cool, I'm gonnayeah,
I'm gonna watch some of the gameplay the Alien.
Speaker 2: Oh fun. I think it's m K nine. That was
like the first like kind of coming back to this
game after like maybe that was like a p S
three game or or like that era, like the first
one since the old PS two games.
Speaker 1: So gotcha. Cool? There you go. There's Mortal Kombat. And
lastly for the day here, we're just gonna talk a
little bit about Marvel Rivals. So I still haven't played
this game. I got into the one of the betas,
but my he doesn't run on my computer or my
laptop unfortunately, so I think it's gonna have to wait
until it's either console or for me to get a
new computer. But some of the announcements here. There's a
couple of new characters announced at Comic Con, one being Thor,
which I'm surprised that Thor wasn't already in there. I
thought he was that we talked about that before, but
maybe not. And then Jeff the land Shark, who, yeah,
as a character I'd never heard of until Marvel Snap,
but he's like a very relevant meta character in Snap,
and so it's funny to see him in here. I
like his look a lot. And then one of the
other ones I saw was Doom. I don't think they
confirmed Doom necessarily, but there was like a screenshot of him,
so maybe he's just like in the game as an
NPC or some other character, but I assume that means
he's coming as a playable character. So that is gonna
be really cool. Good timing with the other Doom announcements
from the other Marvel panel, but I think those are
really fun additions. Particularly Jeff. I think is going to
be just weird and cool, and I'm curious to see,
like what type of character is I'm guessing it's gonna
be like some sort of teleporting support type guy. But
I don't know. Maybe he'll be a DPS. I don't
know how that'll work, but I'd be curious to see
what it is. But yeah, this game, like I remember the
thing I've heard, it seems like it's it's pretty good,
it's pretty solid. Where's your interest level on Marvel Rivals?
As a kind of jaded Overwatch fan like me and
you are similar in that way, and we both love Marvel.
So I don't know when you have I guess I
don't think this maybe wouldn't run on your computer either,
But do you have interest in this game? Do you
want to get into it or check it out? At
some point?
Speaker 2: I would love to give it a try. Like my,
I feel like my last memories of Overwatch we're just
we're just not good. It's just like, man, my glory, Yeah,
glorious memories of playing this game are just long gone.
I never even played Overwatch too kind of because of that.
I just assumed it was more of the same. And
but I will say the first time I ever played Overwatch,
like those early Overwatch days, man, those are like some
of the best memories ever. So I'm hoping that the
first time I kind of jump into this game, I
do get that again, and just trying the different characters
and seeing how crazy some of the commat can really get,
because I don't know, they're like I feel like the
formula of those games. I mean, I guess this goes
back to like Team Team Fortress too, right, It's the
same sort of game. Like it's it's fantastic on paper,
but I don't know, I feel like it gets to
a point that because it's just like a PvP competitive game,
it just gets really grimy and greasy. But I would
love to jump in there and try it out and
just kind of, I don't know, go back to that
era of Overwatch when it was fun to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised. I feel like Overwatch, you know,
when it was I was just falling off for years
in the popularity, but then when two came out, I
feel like people were pretty salty about that release, and
then like when they canceled all the single player content
that they had announced, people were pretty salty about that.
But like, they just announced a new character, so that
game still be doing well financially. It must have still
a lot of players. Even though I feel like I
hear nothing but complaints about that game when people talk
about it, and not even complaints on the way that
people like complain about League of Legends, but they still
love it and play all the time. But I just
feel like it's just negativity, Like people just hate Overwatch
and they're mad about it and they don't play it anymore.
But then somehow there's enough players that it's still getting content.
So yeah, I don't know it's with any one of
these games that gets added to the market. It's like
it's just how many new players that are coming into
the genre versus just taking the players that are already
there and then diluting them between different games. So I'm
curious to see what the long potential, long running potential
this game could because obviously Marvel Avengers really ate it,
and that game's dead now. Marvel Snap though, on the
other hand, in terms of live service living game is
like very successful, doing very well, and going to continue
for probably years and years and years, So I wonder
where Marvel Rivals will fall in that department. Hopefully it
does pretty well. Yeah, Like I said, I want to
check it out at some point. It seems pretty cool,
and I think these characters look fun. Like, I'm sure
Thor is gonna have a really fun move set Doom.
I don't know what his move set would be like, honestly,
maybe like someoney in some bots and whatnot, but either
way it'd be pretty interesting. So yeah, I'm excited to
get into this game when I finally can.
Speaker 2: So it's only close beta right now, right, Like you
got to get keys somehow.
Speaker 1: I believe so, And I think I saw that on Twitch,
like there was one of those one of those events
where you have to like watch for a certain amount
of time and then you get invited. So I think
it's you know, it's it's not where you just have
to get luck of the draw kind of thing. You
could kind of just leave a Twitch dream on in
the background for an hour and then get invited. So yeah,
I think there was one going on for like a
few days there, but now it's I think it's ended
for the time being. Then apparently like the full game
is actually not coming up to like next year, which
is kind of crazy. I thought it'd be sooner than that.
So we'll see what happens there. But yeah, I heard
heard good things. People in our discord were enjoying it
when they were playing it too, So maybe by that
time I'll have a way to play it orfully when
it finally launches one point they have those console versions
ready to go, I think that would be that, hopefully,
is why it's taking so long for it to come out.
Considering these bags here, I think I think they kind
of need that with cross play to just make sure
they have enough players to sustain the game. And I
don't know what the monetization is like in that game either,
but hopefully it's not too savage. Hopefully it's just costumes
and you have access to all the characters right away.
I think one thing they have which is nice is
they don't have the blocked like character picking, Like I
forget what the term is for it, but like how
overwatching Out, it's okay, one tank, two healers, two dps
and like you have to stick to that, the cats
on the characters on the Yeah, the different archetypes there.
I think Rivals is like fully unlocked in that way,
you can play whoever the heck you want, no limitations,
so hopefully they keep it that way. I mean, I'm
sure they learned that lesson from people hating that and Overwatch. Yeah,
so yeah, uh yeah, that's that's Marvel Rivals. Any thoughts
on that one?
Speaker 2: My my favorite clip I've seen in that game is
someone was playing Strange and they did like a portal
in front of like the spawn of like the enemy,
and then like right off like a ledge and literally
like you just see every character like just go through
it and they just all fall off. It's just like
a mass multi kill.
Speaker 1: So I'm like still in the game or if that
was like, yeah, we should probably not allowed.
Speaker 2: It was a while ago, so it might have been
pretty early when I did see that, but no, like
I'm excited to just jump into the game for the
first time and like when I mean, there'll probably be
people around me that know the mechanics, but just like
in like seeing those interactions for the first time. That's
that's what makes like some of my earliest Overwatch memories
just so stand out because of those those chaotic moments
before everyone just gets so good at the game. It's like,
why aren't you hitting that guy? It's like I'm not
good at hit scan.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I can't hit him. Yeah, those early days
when it's just all bliss and glory, good times. Okay,
I think that's going to do it for this week
of side Quest, a little short and sweet sort of
episode here. Like I said, next week is going to
be the Alien Isolation retrospective. Should be a good time.
That's been a very interesting game to play, and yeah,
I think that's gonna do it for us here today.
Thank you Kirkland for joining me, thank you for listening.
We'll see you again next time. Bye bye.