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Speaker 1: That wonderful city we all know and love. But as
Speaker 1: I was talking to you in the break, I said,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's going on with the markets.
Speaker 1: It's going on with gold and silver, and as you
Speaker 1: pointed out, crude oil, because after Trump struck Iran, not
Speaker 1: much happened. The market's kind of legit went, eh, we'll see,
Speaker 1: We'll wait. We know Trump always chickens out, the whole
Speaker 1: taco meme, Trump always chickens out, he backs off, he
Speaker 1: backs down, And I want to get your opinion on
Speaker 1: that and see what do you think is going to
Speaker 1: happen with all this?
Speaker 2: Well? I thought it was a tragic mix of absolutely
Speaker 2: insane coupled with it's something comedy bizarre, because you know,
Speaker 2: bleeding up to the strike on Saturday, Trump was telling
Speaker 2: the people of Tehran to evacuate. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: just unprecedented rhetoric from a president. We've never seen this
Speaker 2: type of behavior before. I mean even in his previous administration.
Speaker 2: It's he even tweeted unconditional surrender. I'm not sure he
Speaker 2: even knows what that means. Like if you look at
Speaker 2: World War two, how traphic that policy. Germans just a
Speaker 2: decimated So I just throwing around those terms, and of
Speaker 2: course I looked at it and thought, well, maybe this
Speaker 2: is the bend in the river where you've seen the
Speaker 2: memes where he slowly morphs into George W. Bush. You know.
Speaker 2: I just thought, well, maybe this is where he's finally
Speaker 2: going to do the reveal. And then the strike happened.
Speaker 2: The interesting part about the market, Stravis, is the markets
Speaker 2: didn't shake at all. Like gold had a little bit
Speaker 2: of a bump, but they just kept going because if
Speaker 2: nothing really was I mean, it didn't hit another all
Speaker 2: time high. Silver just kept doing its thing. It's continuing
Speaker 2: to reset with the gold and silver ratio. It's around
Speaker 2: ninety ounces of silver make one ounce of gold today,
Speaker 2: but it's up for it's like a thirteen year high
Speaker 2: or more. And it just didn't do anything. I thought.
Speaker 2: The most important metric though, was crude oil. It actually
Speaker 2: went down. I was watching it in real time. One
Speaker 2: of my good friends was in the Middle East, and
Speaker 2: I think it's still there right now. Was working a deal.
Speaker 2: He works for a major oil company, and he was,
Speaker 2: you know, texting me. He said, it's pretty tense. Here
Speaker 2: was give me a rundown of how it seems, you know,
Speaker 2: on the streets there. I think he's in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2: And at the same time, we're just talking about the
Speaker 2: price of crude, and you know, the headlines came out
Speaker 2: that Iran was going to close the straight up Woremus
Speaker 2: and then crude went down. The markets have not taken
Speaker 2: this seriously, and perhaps they know something. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: all following the politics of it, and and have you know,
Speaker 2: we have our all of our frame of reference and history,
Speaker 2: what's happened to us before with the lead up of
Speaker 2: these unnecessary wars. So it's hard to say, but I
Speaker 2: definitely think we're as far as the rhetoric's concerned. I
Speaker 2: think we've just with what's just happened. I think has
Speaker 2: made us The loss of credibility is palpable, and I
Speaker 2: think that's again that the market's going on its own.
Speaker 2: I don't think the rhetoric from Trump is going to
Speaker 2: change much now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it, as he said, people have kind of come
Speaker 1: to realize that anything Trump does can he will double
Speaker 1: back on and reverse himself on within a few days.
Speaker 3: He gets real fired up.
Speaker 1: He talks a big game, and you know, shouts from
Speaker 1: the rooftops, but very quickly he moves on to the
Speaker 1: next topic, the next subject. So they've stopped kind of
Speaker 1: reacting to it, they've stopped acknowledging it, or you know,
Speaker 1: it's just confirmation that the market is a fully controlled
Speaker 1: bubble and it just does whatever the power players wants.
Speaker 2: It's possibly that, I mean, we're we're just you're waiting
Speaker 2: for a reaction. It's like I'm gonna, am I going
Speaker 2: to trade you know, am I going to buy some
Speaker 2: goodbye the dip or buy the you know, sell off
Speaker 2: at a certain point, Well, if you there wasn't much
Speaker 2: movement at all, it's like it didn't actually happen. And
Speaker 2: perhaps that's just the market not taking him seriously.
Speaker 1: And that's It's truly ridiculous because this is one of
Speaker 1: the most insane things that has happened in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: This just.
Speaker 1: Strike on Iran, this unilateral you know, bilateral I suppose,
Speaker 1: between the USA and Israel strike where the sitting president
Speaker 1: just says, yeah, we're going to neutralize their nuclear program,
Speaker 1: We're going to send bombers in and almost no reaction
Speaker 1: to it. This potential for war, this insane policy and
Speaker 1: people just go eh, well, you know, we'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. And you mentioned the memes of Ien
Speaker 1: morphing into George W.
Speaker 2: Bush.
Speaker 1: I keep expecting to see Dick Cheney pop out from
Speaker 1: somewhere just like eh, here I am.
Speaker 3: Just it's back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like he never left, isn't it wonderful? The
Speaker 1: more things change, the more they stay the same. And again,
Speaker 1: as you said, the most insane thing is that oil
Speaker 1: didn't react to this. We get a massive amount of
Speaker 1: oil from the Straight of through the Strait of Hor
Speaker 1: moves and the Middle East supplies just in general, a
Speaker 1: massive amount of oil to countries around the world, and
Speaker 1: just well, you know.
Speaker 3: Uh, who knows.
Speaker 1: It's a not much movement at all, which is to
Speaker 1: me the most insane thing. You would expect some fluctuations
Speaker 1: one way or the other. That would be the normal
Speaker 1: standard react and that would be what you expect. You'd
Speaker 1: see the market either fly up or fly down. But
Speaker 1: it's just toodling along as if nothing happened. Has it
Speaker 1: impacted bitcoin at all? Has anything been going on with
Speaker 1: crypto after this?
Speaker 2: Well, Bitcoin, I think weather did pretty well. Again, that's
Speaker 2: another indication that nothing much happened with the market. So Bitcoin,
Speaker 2: I think dip down into like one hundred and one thousand,
Speaker 2: and I can check the spot price here in a second.
Speaker 2: We're still hovering in the one oh four to one
Speaker 2: oh five range last time I checked. So Bitcoin didn't
Speaker 2: really respond to this either, which is interesting. You just
Speaker 2: brought up how much crude oil passes through the straight
Speaker 2: up horn moves. I think it's like twenty six percent
Speaker 2: of the world's oil supply or something like. It's some
Speaker 2: crazy number. And then of course that the entire Middle
Speaker 2: East accounts for about that. I mean, so it's like
Speaker 2: where you get the supply of the crude oil I've
Speaker 2: long and wondered. You know, when there's saber rattling, if
Speaker 2: you actually look at who benefits, it is Iran or
Speaker 2: like Iran Saudi Arabia because the price of crude goes up.
Speaker 2: This didn't happen this time. I mean even when Iran
Speaker 2: was you know, in the early two thousands or you know,
Speaker 2: post Iraq war, it was on the chopping block. It
Speaker 2: just couldn't pull it off at the time with the
Speaker 2: Neocon ran out, ran out of time, ran out, ran
Speaker 2: out the clock. With George W. Bush and leaving office,
Speaker 2: so they really couldn't get that done. But during that time,
Speaker 2: there was a ramp up in the price of crude oil.
Speaker 2: There was always coming from Iran doing some saber rattling,
Speaker 2: and I thought, watching that closely, the correlation between you know,
Speaker 2: and their president saying death to America and you know,
Speaker 2: wiping Israel off the map and all that stuff, and
Speaker 2: then you see the price of crude would would would
Speaker 2: bolster from that. I don't know, this is this is
Speaker 2: something different, Travis. This is something Whatever we're watching now
Speaker 2: is something different. I'm glad that you noticed the same
Speaker 2: metrics that I did. It's like, hey, well nothing moved here,
Speaker 2: so you know, and the strike and everything and all
Speaker 2: the stuff subsequently afterwards looked scripted to me. So perhaps
Speaker 2: we avoided this particular trap to get into a long protracted, kinetic,
Speaker 2: unnecessary war. But you know, as far as markets are concerned,
Speaker 2: nothing happened. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We've got a question here from my dad and he
Speaker 1: says that, you know, of course, George W. Bush went
Speaker 1: out and said mission accomplished in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: He had that gigantic banner behind him. He gave that
Speaker 1: speech like we've done it. We won, and then we
Speaker 1: were mired there for eight more years. It just continued
Speaker 1: and dragged out. Just how long after Mission accomplished were
Speaker 1: you sent to Iraq?
Speaker 2: Were you? I was in Iraq during Mission accomplished when
Speaker 2: he landed on that aircraft carrier. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the day he did that, I was sitting on top
Speaker 2: of a humvy watching you know, tracer fire go off
Speaker 2: and wondering who was shooting it who? So it was
Speaker 2: a great victory.
Speaker 3: I'm sure we didn't even know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to look at the date on that.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that was the day he landed
Speaker 2: and said, oh, you know, Mission accomplished and all the rest,
Speaker 2: but there was it was definitely violence. Go. That was
Speaker 2: just the beginning, you know, the Mission accomplished banner was
Speaker 2: just the beginning of the warrants. That's when everything really
Speaker 2: started to happen. All those CIA assets flooding in from
Speaker 2: all over the Middle East, and people with Syrian passports,
Speaker 2: and matter of fact, the Musha Hadeen from Afghanistan, our
Speaker 2: old friends that you know, killed the Russians and then
Speaker 2: we're in Afghanistan liberating them or whatever from the Taliban.
Speaker 2: They were there in northern Iraq as well, so everybody came.
Speaker 2: It was a big jamboree.
Speaker 1: What was the uh if you remember? What was kind
Speaker 1: of like the feeling on the ground when they people
Speaker 1: like you, you know, people who were enlisted, people who
Speaker 1: were there in country, saw George W. Bush make that speech.
Speaker 1: Did anyone kind of roll their eyes and go, ah, yeah,
Speaker 1: mission accomplished, We really did it?
Speaker 2: Or I feel like it's so that I watched a
Speaker 2: documentary of Gore Vidal, who served in the in World
Speaker 2: War two in the Pacific, you know, and he always
Speaker 2: he just kind of bitter about it. It's like because
Speaker 2: his best friend was a marine that was killed in
Speaker 2: World War two in the Pacific as well, and he said,
Speaker 2: I never heard anyone utter a patriotic thing the entire
Speaker 2: time I was in the war. Like you know, it
Speaker 2: was make fun of of politics. It just it just
Speaker 2: really didn't get brought up that much. It was you
Speaker 2: were just focused on because you're you know, if you're
Speaker 2: the first in or your first wave of troops. I mean,
Speaker 2: you just got so much on your mind and there's
Speaker 2: no television, so there's no television. Maybe you could pick
Speaker 2: up some short wave like listen to the BBC or whatever.
Speaker 2: I had a little handheld radio. I try to listen,
Speaker 2: but but you're almost news blackout because all you got
Speaker 2: is the the comms from Mission Command. I was like,
Speaker 2: all you've got those comms and you get kind of fed,
Speaker 2: which is just scary. You get fed what's going on
Speaker 2: in the world. You don't know. Well, you know, you're
Speaker 2: in the middle of World War three too, so I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know there was a you know, looking back,
Speaker 2: I don't have to check the uh maybe maybe the
Speaker 2: whistler can check on the date of when that was
Speaker 2: on when he landed on the aircraft carrier. But I
Speaker 2: want to say it was. I want to say it
Speaker 2: was May like the beginning of May.
Speaker 1: Uh good old, you know, the as the saying goes,
Speaker 1: you know, the poor men fight the war, the rich
Speaker 1: men start the war. You know, all wars are banker wars.
Speaker 1: People on the ground in a media blackout as they're
Speaker 1: dealing with as you said, tracer fire, wondering who's shooting
Speaker 1: at who? As George Bush, you know, sits on his
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier with his giant banner behind him.
Speaker 3: We did it.
Speaker 1: Mission accomplished, and then eight more years of pointless death
Speaker 1: and destruction and just destroying the Iraqi infrastructure, killing so
Speaker 1: many of their people and so many veterans coming home
Speaker 1: maimed and wounded.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely disgusting. They had a headline last week, you know,
Speaker 2: this war fever really showing me who people really are.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what I saw last week. And one
Speaker 2: of the headlines from Drudge was and this is just
Speaker 2: going to stick with me forever. They had this I
Speaker 2: don't know who the guy is, but they had some general,
Speaker 2: four star general, supposedly right behind trees and Trump's ear about,
Speaker 2: you know, the getting into another war with Iran once
Speaker 2: it really bad. And his name is is Gorilla with
Speaker 2: a K and they call him a jacked gorilla. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he's this general and they started I read a
Speaker 2: little bit of his biography and he was he was
Speaker 2: a lieutenant colonel the time that I was in Iraq,
Speaker 2: in Mosul, and I thought, wow, great job, sir, you
Speaker 2: did a magnificent job. What a what a utopia you
Speaker 2: helped to construct? And I started thinking of all the
Speaker 2: people that were murdered, and the mayhem and the violence
Speaker 2: and the rise of isis that you know, we created.
Speaker 2: And then I just looked at the the churches, the
Speaker 2: these historical sites that there were there, some of the
Speaker 2: earliest sites of Christendom that I stood in. That are
Speaker 2: deaths that are gone, that are obliterated, and I thought,
Speaker 2: that's what you brought. You know, that that neocon class experiment,
Speaker 2: which really is just has a I talked about it
Speaker 2: on my show last week. It's it's the genesis of
Speaker 2: neo conservatism is Marxism, which is in the genesis of that.
Speaker 2: It's just Satanism. I mean really, it's not if you're
Speaker 2: a Republican voting for neocons and that's like because you
Speaker 2: love foreign policy hawks, you're just like a click away
Speaker 2: from satan That's not. It's who those people are. There's
Speaker 2: a spirit in it of revolution, like the like the
Speaker 2: French revolution of the Jacobins or the Bolsheviks. It's that
Speaker 2: same it's that same thing, it's that same embryo. And
Speaker 2: I really see that in the spirit of even last week.
Speaker 2: It's scary to watch when people lose all reason and
Speaker 2: these armchair warriors, whatever animates these it's it's a And
Speaker 2: I told my audience, I said, you don't want any
Speaker 2: part of this whatever it is, it's a darkness in it.
Speaker 2: Stay away, don't connect yourself spiritually to whatever this thing is,
Speaker 2: and we'll see and nothing. I was relieved that I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about something different this week, and you know
Speaker 2: that's we're there's not any further escalations. But you know
Speaker 2: you can't always write that stuff off and say, well,
Speaker 2: nothing happened. Well, that's probably the lot of the way
Speaker 2: it looked in you know, the summer of nineteen fourteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know they are stupid. Fernanda's murdered,
Speaker 2: and you know Austria Hungary is going to do something.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well the Habsburg's or whatever, what are they
Speaker 2: going to do? You know, it has a way, war
Speaker 2: has away, kind of like Jurassic Park, where you know,
Speaker 2: life finds a way, a war finds a way a
Speaker 2: lot of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I said, it's easy to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: nothing happened, But it's also important to realize that it
Speaker 1: sometimes takes a long time for these giant ships of
Speaker 1: state to really kick things into gear. You generally, you know,
Speaker 1: you can launch a new a missile strike fairly rapidly.
Speaker 1: They can be over there and back quickly, but to
Speaker 1: get the ball rolling on sending troops out and invasion,
Speaker 1: that's a longer process. Even with today's you know, faster
Speaker 1: troop transports and the technology we have, it still takes
Speaker 1: a lot longer to mobilize infantry and to get boots
Speaker 1: on the ground. So just because things haven't happened yet
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they aren't prepping things in the background. They
Speaker 1: aren't still preparing for something like that. So like this
Speaker 1: could just be the first initial like you said nineteen fourteen, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know the the Archduke got shot, but that nothing's
Speaker 1: happened yet, So we're all good here, but we don't
Speaker 1: know that there's certain And I know you briefly mentioned
Speaker 1: the uh muja Hadeen coming in from Afghanistan, and it
Speaker 1: just reminds me of the way the propaganda works. I
Speaker 1: don't remember which movie it was. I believe it was
Speaker 1: one of the Rambo movies. Opens up or closes with
Speaker 1: a shot of a desert and over laid on top
Speaker 1: of it is this film is dedicated to the brave
Speaker 1: muja Hadeen fighters because at that time they were our allies,
Speaker 1: they were our friends, we had been supporting them, we'd
Speaker 1: been giving them money and arms and weapons to fight Russia,
Speaker 1: and over time they had to take that out. They
Speaker 1: cut it out of the movie because eventually, you know, like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they're not our friends anymore, because America will use and
Speaker 1: discard anyone, any of these little groups that they use
Speaker 1: to torment another nation. You know, these proxy warriors for
Speaker 1: us will eventually become our enemies. You know, there are playthings,
Speaker 1: and we love to set them up to harass others,
Speaker 1: and then we get to come in and fight them
Speaker 1: later ourselves. And it's just it's funny to me that
Speaker 1: how quickly they can change the propaganda, even when it's
Speaker 1: so obvious in your face. You know, they were our friends,
Speaker 1: they were our allies, and then immediately, oh, the muja
Speaker 1: Hunden are bad, the Taliban. It's just we have been
Speaker 1: involved in the Middle East for so long and we
Speaker 1: have caused so much chaos there, and yet the average
Speaker 1: American has no idea about it. They see this and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, they're our enemy, they hate us,
Speaker 1: And it's like, have you ever wondered why they hate us? Potentially?
Speaker 1: Have you given it any more thought than just, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they're hateful people, right. They dislike us for our they
Speaker 1: hate us for our freedoms.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite.
Speaker 1: What freedom would that be would be the freedom to
Speaker 1: drop bombs on them at any given moment, the freedom
Speaker 1: to invade their countries and take their oil and destroy
Speaker 1: their infrastructure, depose their leaders.
Speaker 3: It's one of those.
Speaker 1: It's like, Saddam Hussein was a terrible human being, He
Speaker 1: was a bad man, His sons were evil and wicked.
Speaker 1: But was it worth it to depose him when we
Speaker 1: caused devastation, when we killed so many innocent civilians. I
Speaker 1: don't think any Iraqi would say it was worth it.
Speaker 1: I haven't taken a survey, but I don't imagine. I
Speaker 1: imagine that if we could go back and say, all right,
Speaker 1: you've got the option America never invades, but you keep
Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein. Imagine they would take that trade. You know,
Speaker 1: ten times out of ten, one hundred times out of
Speaker 1: one hundred, they go, absolutely, it's worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know the number of suicide bombings that
Speaker 2: went on in Iraq prior to the US invasion and
Speaker 2: its history? I do not, zero zero zero, And that's
Speaker 2: with Saddam Hussein killed a million Iranians, so there wasn't
Speaker 2: one jihad against him, isn't that interesting? Like we supplied
Speaker 2: him with weapons and other things in support. There's that
Speaker 2: famous picture of Rumsfeld going and shaking hands with Saddam.
Speaker 2: They showed it to him live on CNN, I think,
Speaker 2: and he was like, where did you get that? Isn't
Speaker 2: that interesting? Yeah? He was our friend, and so was Kadafi,
Speaker 2: and so was tim Osmond, you know, which is Sama
Speaker 2: bin Laden. So was the assad A family, and going
Speaker 2: back into the Cold War, they were all our friends,
Speaker 2: you know, and we throw our friends under the bus
Speaker 2: when they're no longer well, they serve a purpose. They
Speaker 2: become the boogeyman, you know. Like I watched that that
Speaker 2: was Rambo three, and that was late late eighties, and
Speaker 2: I watched that in theaters with my dad. I think
Speaker 2: I was probably about eight years old or nine years old,
Speaker 2: it was. It was it was late late eighties, and
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know that they took that out
Speaker 2: of the film. That's sad, you know, because that you know,
Speaker 2: they worked with the Afghans on the border there in
Speaker 2: Pakistan and film that during the Soviet occupation it's like
Speaker 2: an historical little piece of you know, a film that's
Speaker 2: that you should look at. The Soviet occupation of Afghanistan
Speaker 2: is a failed experiment and what came of it. You know,
Speaker 2: we assisted the Afghans and you know, stinger missiles and
Speaker 2: other things and weaponry and intelligence and training and I
Speaker 2: actually worked with I met a couple of different special
Speaker 2: operators when I was in Afghanistan. Of course, we were
Speaker 2: the first army company on the ground after nine eleven's
Speaker 2: actually the end of two thousand and one. I was
Speaker 2: on the ground and one of the National guardsmen was
Speaker 2: North Carolina National Guard. This this old guy, they called
Speaker 2: him old Man, but he'd been a Navy seal in
Speaker 2: the eighties and he was like, yeah, I was back now,
Speaker 2: I was here in eighty six. You know, he's he's
Speaker 2: just you know, during the Soviet occupation, like fighting, you know,
Speaker 2: helping the Musha a dean and which means holy warriors
Speaker 2: on the you know, on the ground. You know, the
Speaker 2: enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I don't
Speaker 2: I think looking at back on it, it's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, the that really isn't my enemy either. You know,
Speaker 2: It's like we created this thing with the musha Adean
Speaker 2: and others people in the Middle East. But I don't
Speaker 2: have a I don't have a fight with them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know they you tend not to get shot at
Speaker 2: by them. If you're not in their country trying to
Speaker 2: occupy it, it's tend you tend to be okay. I
Speaker 2: mean that is not to say there's not you know,
Speaker 2: there is international terrorism, but mostly it's funded by intelligence agencies.
Speaker 2: As we've come to find out. Unfortunately, it's not that
Speaker 2: the world isn't as it seems. And I'm honestly, Travis,
Speaker 2: I'm amazed, and I think we've been blessed with this
Speaker 2: the amount of blowback that we didn't receive from doing this.
Speaker 2: If you've seen what I've seen on the ground, you know,
Speaker 2: this is not like these people that think this stuff up,
Speaker 2: you know, in a think tank. Yeah, they have more
Speaker 2: experience in a think tank than an Abrams tank. I
Speaker 2: can tell you that if you go and look at
Speaker 2: the consequences of their experiment, it's horrifying. And the metre
Speaker 2: of fact that we've escaped to you know, the last
Speaker 2: twenty plus years with less that you know, the blowbacks
Speaker 2: should have been what it's disproportional. Yes, so you know,
Speaker 2: we're blessed because of that. It is.
Speaker 1: Someone who's like he has been on the ground, you know,
Speaker 1: the average American people like me, who've never been over there,
Speaker 1: we don't have any frame of reference, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't understand what Iraq was like before and after. We
Speaker 1: don't get to see the carnage and the devastation. We're
Speaker 1: fed these clips on places like CNN or Fox News
Speaker 1: where we see, you know, a gunship raining down very
Speaker 1: precise fire on a specific enemy encampment.
Speaker 3: We're shown that it's a very precise tactical.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not endangering civilians, We're taking out these
Speaker 1: dangerous terrorists. But the truth is war always has collateral damage.
Speaker 1: You don't occupy a country for nearly a decade without
Speaker 1: harming the civilian population.
Speaker 3: And we sort of.
Speaker 1: Have this idea that everything we did was beneficial, that
Speaker 1: we brought democracy to the Middle East. Isn't it wonderful?
Speaker 1: We helped these people? And I find it sickening that
Speaker 1: the American population is so cavalier about war. You know,
Speaker 1: it's horrible for the countries that we invade.
Speaker 3: We have caused.
Speaker 1: Millions to billions of dollars in damages, and that's not
Speaker 1: even looking.
Speaker 3: At the loss of life.
Speaker 1: And even if you're just going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: despit about it and say, well, I don't care about the
Speaker 1: loss of life when it comes to iraqis I don't
Speaker 1: care how many of them we kill. I don't care
Speaker 1: if they're innocent civilians. I don't care if they're terrorists
Speaker 1: or whatever. You can look at the people, the men
Speaker 1: and women who came back who have been maimed or killed,
Speaker 1: or the number people we've lost, and you should at
Speaker 1: least care about that as an American. And it's just
Speaker 1: it has been a drain on us financially, it has
Speaker 1: been a drain on us spiritually. It has been truly
Speaker 1: disheartening to see the number of people that are in
Speaker 1: comment sections saying blessings to Israel, praying for Israel after
Speaker 1: they struck Iran. I found on YouTube a live stream
Speaker 1: of some Israeli reporters and the comment section was just
Speaker 1: flooded with American Zionists saying, you know, God will bless Israel,
Speaker 1: God bless Israel. I'm praying for Israel. And it's just
Speaker 1: the utter lack of care for the Iranian civilians, the
Speaker 1: people who are attacked, the people who suffered this strike.
Speaker 1: The entire comment section was flooded with nothing but people
Speaker 1: saying that, oh, we unconditionally support Israel, no matter what
Speaker 1: they do, we support Israel, and it's just so incredibly
Speaker 1: sad to see. It is heartbreaking that they have such
Speaker 1: little care for anyone in the Middle East other than Israel.
Speaker 1: And if Israel wants to steamroll the entire place, they're
Speaker 1: fine with it.
Speaker 3: And as you said, you.
Speaker 1: Were there and you saw these beautiful old churches, these
Speaker 1: wonderful places that have now been destroyed. Because I know,
Speaker 1: after the American invasion and occupation, the sentiment towards Christians
Speaker 1: was not it dramatically dropped. They started to hate Christianity
Speaker 1: and Christians more because they saw that as the religion
Speaker 1: of the people who were destroying their country. And we've
Speaker 1: seen that in Syria now after Asad has left power,
Speaker 1: the attacks on Christians have escalated. They have once again
Speaker 1: started to attack Christians more frequently. And I played a
Speaker 1: clip from Charlie Kirk yesterday of the day before where
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, I support Israel because when
Speaker 1: I went there, I saw the Holy Land, and I
Speaker 1: saw all these beautiful, wonderful places that Jesus walked. It's
Speaker 1: just for one that's you know, you're close to God
Speaker 1: wherever you are.
Speaker 3: You don't need to be in Israel.
Speaker 1: You don't need to walk in a place Jesus may
Speaker 1: have walked to be close to him.
Speaker 3: He's there with you.
Speaker 1: But also there are beautiful, wonderful pieces of history and
Speaker 1: old churches in all of these countries, in Iran or
Speaker 1: Iraq or Afghanistan. They're scattered all over the Middle East,
Speaker 1: but they don't care about those. They don't care about
Speaker 1: preserving that history. And it's just it's so disheartening to see,
Speaker 1: but it is.
Speaker 2: It's a I think it's, uh, we've lost the opportunity,
Speaker 2: I think as Christians to bring people to Christ because
Speaker 2: of this fruit of a poisonous tree, which is Christian Zionism.
Speaker 2: I think that it's it's something that turned me off
Speaker 2: when I got back from you know, my wars, and
Speaker 2: i'd go to the church. I hear people talk about,
Speaker 2: you know, turning the places I just left, we got
Speaker 2: turned it into a parking lot. Just hit them with,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like, you're going to church? You're supposedly,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to commune with God and his son,
Speaker 2: and you know that's the Prince of peace. Where do
Speaker 2: you get this ideology? And if you look at somebody
Speaker 2: like John Hagy's church in San Antonio, they waived the
Speaker 2: Israeli flag and it's very idolatrous. I caught onto it,
Speaker 2: I think as a young man, just thought I thought
Speaker 2: that was it was incongruent. I didn't understand it. And
Speaker 2: the more that I understood geopolitics in Middle Eastern foreign policy,
Speaker 2: I started to, oh, I think I understand this better.
Speaker 2: Now it's you know, mid twenties. I think I got it.
Speaker 2: But it really turned me off from from modern Christianity
Speaker 2: and in least organized way. And I had to find
Speaker 2: people like James Perlof who wrote Truth as a Lonely War.
Speaker 2: You're like, tell me this history, like what is the
Speaker 2: Schofield Bible and why did they who was John Darby?
Speaker 2: You know, what is the concept of the rapture is?
Speaker 2: Where did that come from? You know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like QAnon for the nineteenth century, and you get this
Speaker 2: kind of this mixture. It's very kind of it's a
Speaker 2: cultic and then they get this mixture of things where
Speaker 2: it's based off of a physical place in political Zionism,
Speaker 2: which is creating its political right. And it's like your
Speaker 2: dad says, what happens when you mix politics and religion,
Speaker 2: you get politics, you know, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's just political, it's not you know. And then you
Speaker 2: know you have all these groups that will silence you
Speaker 2: and say you're anti Semitic if you even bring it up.
Speaker 2: I mean that it's I think we're a long way
Speaker 2: from that. The good news is is that the Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk's of the world and the Ben Shapiros, they they're hard.
Speaker 2: They hit a high water mark a while ago. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that the majority of people like Maga started
Speaker 2: looking around this last week I think maybe become a
Speaker 2: little bit more self aware and was like, so we
Speaker 2: don't have a say in this, like we like this strike,
Speaker 2: and no you don't, because the you're just you're just
Speaker 2: window dressing. You're just used. You're a tool to get
Speaker 2: to where. You know, these people they kind of think
Speaker 2: the same, don't they. At the top it's all the same.
Speaker 2: They have the same kind of they answer to the
Speaker 2: same handlers and the same people and the same donors,
Speaker 2: you know, the Sheldon Addelson's of the world who give
Speaker 2: Trump so much, and you know Nett and Yahoo plays.
Speaker 2: But Net and Yahoo's first call, by the way, in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the first world leader to congratulate Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: even while there was question marks h over everything, was
Speaker 2: Benjamin Night Yahoo. He made sure to do that, to
Speaker 2: be the first world leader to call. And I thought
Speaker 2: that was it because all that you know, Trump does
Speaker 2: for Israel, and it's a thankless expectation. You're just supposed
Speaker 2: to do it. But it is. It is interesting to
Speaker 2: watch that them trying to walk that back. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad that these kind of events happen because it does
Speaker 2: continue to fracture whatever that is. Like, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're you know this, if you get into conservative commentary,
Speaker 2: if you're on the so called right, one of the
Speaker 2: first things that you get big enough, one of the
Speaker 2: first things they do they flight Israel, and they want
Speaker 2: to make sure you're with them. You get to you know,
Speaker 2: you're going to make sure that you're you're gonna you're
Speaker 2: gonna preach about uh, you know, Iran can't be allowed
Speaker 2: to get a nuclear weapon, and we have to defend
Speaker 2: Israel at all costs. And this is part of the
Speaker 2: like that's the basis of modern conservatism, is a Middle
Speaker 2: Eastern foreign policy centered system. Look at Ted Cruz, Wasn't
Speaker 2: that wonderful? Like watching him get dismantled by Tucker Carl
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a
Speaker 2: long long time, because I've waited for so long because
Speaker 2: in Texas, that's the way it is. You know, I
Speaker 2: always knew. And look what Ted said. He said when
Speaker 2: I was running for United States Senate. I just my
Speaker 2: goal was to be the number one advocate for Isael
Speaker 2: only United State Senate. That was his goal as a senator,
Speaker 2: and that's where I come from. And I find that
Speaker 2: to be just so like it just it's a thorn
Speaker 2: in my mind, Like I can't get over, Like I
Speaker 2: can't look at the rest of what they want because
Speaker 2: they're just so fixated on this thing. But the good
Speaker 2: news is is that events like the last week or
Speaker 2: two have shown where loyalties lie. And I think that
Speaker 2: it's also showing that the future of the of constitutional
Speaker 2: right centered politics will be it will jettison that It
Speaker 2: just won't be tomorrow. It's happening. It's happening. So the
Speaker 2: younger generation is going, what what do I have to
Speaker 2: do for this foreign nation? I don't get that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a good thing that we lose it.
Speaker 1: You can't have a truly conservative right wing party if
Speaker 1: they are beholding to Israel and we are going to
Speaker 1: continually go to war or bully and abuse these other countries,
Speaker 1: because a conservative right wing policy would be we'll defend
Speaker 1: ourselves if we're attacked, but we do not go abroad
Speaker 1: seeking monsters to destroy, not at anyone's behested. And until,
Speaker 1: as you said, we jettison this foreign influence, will never
Speaker 1: have that. It's not possible. We've talked a lot about
Speaker 1: what's going on in the Middle East, but I want
Speaker 1: to get briefly into BIS and how they're claiming that
Speaker 1: stable coins are failing and they're calling for strict limits
Speaker 1: on the role.
Speaker 3: So what do you think is going on there?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the same thing with the IMF,
Speaker 2: and I think there's a little bit of an infighting
Speaker 2: competition on who's going to control these digitized settlement systems.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion. I mean, I look at the BIS
Speaker 2: wants to be the clearing house for digitized tokens and
Speaker 2: world currency, if you will. I think that's what they've
Speaker 2: been signaling for a long time. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the headlines and the BIS
Speaker 2: was working closely with the bricks Nations, and the Andy
Speaker 2: Sheckman asked, the question goes, wait a minute, isn't the BIS.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a Western institution. It's just international. It just morphs.
Speaker 2: It does what it does, it goes. It was created
Speaker 2: just prior the BIS. The Bank of International Settlements in Basle,
Speaker 2: Switzerland was created just prior to FDR making it illegal
Speaker 2: for you to own gold as an American citizen before
Speaker 2: he signed that executive order. It was created in the
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties. And then that gold was repatriated. A lot
Speaker 2: of big chunk of that gold the Americans gave up,
Speaker 2: and thankfully a big chunk of them didn't. A giant
Speaker 2: share of it went to the BIS. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of a little side note to history. That's where it
Speaker 2: was supposed to go, is international banking cartels and use
Speaker 2: these institutions like I think there's this infighting. You know,
Speaker 2: the IMF International Monetary Fund was born out of Breton
Speaker 2: Woods in nineteen forty four, and so was the World Bank.
Speaker 2: And I think they have the UNI coin and they
Speaker 2: I think they seek to create their own system of
Speaker 2: blockchain or digitized stuff. But it's interesting that you brought
Speaker 2: that headline up and I'd read that, But I think
Speaker 2: that I think this is all about really control who
Speaker 2: controls the keys to what coins and the stable coin
Speaker 2: market I think is still something to watch. The is
Speaker 2: kind of the backbone of the back door for the
Speaker 2: technocratic version of central bank digital currency TBDC.
Speaker 1: You got another headline here. I want to get your
Speaker 1: opinion on before you have to jump out of here.
Speaker 1: I know we're going to go a little bit over,
Speaker 1: if that's all right with you.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Uh strategies. Michael Saylor raises bitcoin forecast to twenty
Speaker 1: one million dollars by twenty one forty six. How would
Speaker 1: that even happen? How is there enough wealth capital to
Speaker 1: support that kind of jump in price? Twenty one million
Speaker 1: dollars for bitcoin? What do you what do you see
Speaker 1: happening there? What do you think? Do you think that's
Speaker 1: even possible?
Speaker 2: I do think it's possible. I think that he's continued
Speaker 2: to be extremely bullish. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 2: who's he's put everything on the table with if you
Speaker 2: look at like his strategy now but formerly micro Strategy
Speaker 2: is one of the the first publicly traded bitcoin treasury company.
Speaker 2: So he's you know, putting up offerings, taking the capital
Speaker 2: and then housing bitcoin. And this's this company strategy ismed.
Speaker 2: I mean just like it's a massive success. So you
Speaker 2: have all these other copycats that are going on right
Speaker 2: now becoming bitcoin treasury companies. I think that it's possible.
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because if you
Speaker 2: if you look at the supposed wealth of the world
Speaker 2: or whatever it's you know, supposed to be like, you know,
Speaker 2: four hundred trillion or something like that. I mean, who
Speaker 2: really knows what the actual number is because a great
Speaker 2: deal of that it's just currency and you know, things
Speaker 2: that are redundant or bonds and other things. But it's
Speaker 2: hundreds of trillions, and bitcoin has a market cap of
Speaker 2: two trillion, gold has a market cap of twenty trillion
Speaker 2: or whatever it was. I think that what you look
Speaker 2: at is market caps, and it's like a collision Travis like,
Speaker 2: and there's a tweet up on gold Telegraph. I was
Speaker 2: looking at earlier this morning for research. This collision between
Speaker 2: infinite fiat currency and finite precious metals and commodities is
Speaker 2: one thing. And then we know, like with bitcoin, this
Speaker 2: digitized system, absolute scarcity with absolute numbers, like we know
Speaker 2: to the last transaction how many bitcoin there are or
Speaker 2: ever will be. And I think that is something when
Speaker 2: these two things collide, which this space and time which
Speaker 2: we're you know, fifty plus years out of fifty four
Speaker 2: years from Nixon taking us off the gold standard, it
Speaker 2: really is interesting, you know, to put these kind of
Speaker 2: metrics on well, what's the price of X going to be?
Speaker 2: It may not even matter. You know. That's the thing
Speaker 2: we don't. We are always pricing things in dollars because
Speaker 2: we have a stationary idea in our mind what a
Speaker 2: dollar's worth. But if you look at the debasement of
Speaker 2: the dollar, it's kind of like, well, it's a mere
Speaker 2: fact that you know. Look at silver, I mean, silver
Speaker 2: is something I'm amazed by it. It's like thirty six
Speaker 2: dollars and forty cents an ounce on spot trade today
Speaker 2: when you know it's nowhere near it's all time high
Speaker 2: of forty five years ago against a dollar that's been
Speaker 2: totally destroyed, you know, since for the last forty five years,
Speaker 2: the debasement and purchasing power of the US dollars has
Speaker 2: been catastrophic. Yeah, so I would I think all bets
Speaker 2: are off on these these numbers. I don't not sure
Speaker 2: what that means, but Sailor could be by it. And
Speaker 2: let's say he's half right, it's still it's still an
Speaker 2: amazing number in twenty one years, you know. If that's
Speaker 2: the case, I think. I think bitcoin, if you just
Speaker 2: look at his potential it has it has a lot
Speaker 2: of upside. But that's it. Things stay as they are
Speaker 2: and we just don't know. I mean, there's just it's
Speaker 2: a new technology. I definitely have a stake in it,
Speaker 2: but you know, my primary business is always going to
Speaker 2: be precious metals because of its history. It has a
Speaker 2: longer history, and I see it different. I see metals
Speaker 2: differently than I do bitcoin, although they do have similar functions.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And got one more question, and we've also got
Speaker 1: a question from a fan here. Want to make sure
Speaker 1: from a listener that we get to says, can you
Speaker 1: ask Tony, please ask him if he found any old
Speaker 1: pennies for the wolf cub packages, or if he's going
Speaker 1: to put some in all wolf pack packages.
Speaker 2: That's the plan. We are going to do some. I
Speaker 2: have a container I saw I was just in Branson
Speaker 2: last week and this crew has been saving this big
Speaker 2: thing of pennies, mostly wheat pennies and such. We'll start
Speaker 2: I think we'll just do those for free in the
Speaker 2: wolf cubs. I got a new I'm going to work
Speaker 2: on the newsletter. We've been so busy and it's been
Speaker 2: such a you know, marketing and everything else is just
Speaker 2: it's just tough. Like we're at this level where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can just I can see growth on the other side,
Speaker 2: and I got to, you know, support my team. So
Speaker 2: I haven't done a lot of the stuff that I've
Speaker 2: wanted to do, but we definitely aren't going to put
Speaker 2: the pennies in the in the in the cubbies. I
Speaker 2: think that's a good ideas in little histories on coins.
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds awesome, that sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Maybe once our son gets a little bit older,
Speaker 1: we'll start, you know, investing in some of that for him.
Speaker 1: Make sure, you know, once he's old enough to not
Speaker 1: just try to choke himself on the coins, you know.
Speaker 2: But the reason we did that was the cubs was
Speaker 2: just it's just an educational thing, you know, and you
Speaker 2: save up over time. It was thirty five dollars add up,
Speaker 2: So absolutely not a bad thing to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got one more question. I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: It's just a Germany is wanting it's gold repatriated from
Speaker 1: the United States. It's like, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: want to keep it here with you guys, what do
Speaker 1: you think about that?
Speaker 3: What's going on with that?
Speaker 1: And do you think we will be seeing this more
Speaker 1: in the future or more country is gonna start scratching
Speaker 1: their head and saying, actually, maybe we'll hold our own gold.
Speaker 2: Yes, because it's the foundation of the last economic world
Speaker 2: order was trust, and we have eroded the trust and
Speaker 2: we continue to do that. And it's not just Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean you have the Biden administration, every other ministry.
Speaker 2: It's eroding trust with sanctions. You know. It's like, why
Speaker 2: is gold making a comeback as the world's reserve currency.
Speaker 2: Why did it surpass the euro as the second most
Speaker 2: held reserve asset by central banks? It's because it's you
Speaker 2: can't sanction it, especially if you hold it, if there's
Speaker 2: no counterparty risk, if you hold as a country, you
Speaker 2: hold your gold, then you've got to a leg up
Speaker 2: on what is it. What kind of sanctions are you
Speaker 2: going to get? It's hard to do that. It's harder
Speaker 2: to do that. You're not in this currency system where
Speaker 2: things can be shut down. So yes, I think this
Speaker 2: is a growing trend. I think this this gold will
Speaker 2: be repatriated all over the world. The Shanghai Gold Exchange
Speaker 2: is setting up satellite offices and satellite exchanges all over
Speaker 2: the world to settle in physical gold. I think just
Speaker 2: the writing on the wall, uh in general for everything
Speaker 2: is going back to something that is a more stable
Speaker 2: metal by metallic standard of some kind, especially gold, because
Speaker 2: it's a monetary metal. And the countries that have long since,
Speaker 2: you know, relied on the dollar system, we've shown that
Speaker 2: you can't do that. We look, we look insane. I
Speaker 2: mean telling people to people to evacuate, evacuate Tehran. I
Speaker 2: mean seriously that that has and that's not a it's
Speaker 2: you know, I know, I look at the headlines all
Speaker 2: the time and I'm way down the rabbit hole. But
Speaker 2: that's even that one's surprised me, and I thought, that's
Speaker 2: that's insane.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've proven over and over again that we're not trustworthy,
Speaker 1: even I was talking about it yesterday. Even if Iran
Speaker 1: were to comply with everything that we're saying, even if
Speaker 1: they were to unilaterally, unconditionally surrender, they have seen what
Speaker 1: we did with the rack that it lies about WMDs
Speaker 1: that didn't exist, or the babies and the incubators. They
Speaker 1: have seen over and over again that America will lie
Speaker 1: itself into a war. They have no reason to trust us.
Speaker 1: No country does at this point. And so whether it's
Speaker 1: surrendering or repatriating your gold, people can look at it
Speaker 1: and say, I don't trust them to hold to their word.
Speaker 1: I don't trust them at all. Well, we're a bit
Speaker 1: over time. We've gone ten minutes longer. And I know
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of stuff on your plate, Tony,
Speaker 1: as you said, you're dealing with, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: grow the business and all the other stuff you have
Speaker 1: on your plate. Is your show going to becoming up today?
Speaker 1: Will you be doing that?
Speaker 2: I will be live on my ex at Tony Arderburn
Speaker 2: on the America Unplug channel over on Rumble and my YouTube.
Speaker 2: I got a YouTube up if you can believe that. Wow.
Speaker 2: See we'll see how long it lasts at Tony Ardeburn
Speaker 2: on YouTube. So yeah, come join me. I'll be live
Speaker 2: in fifty minutes.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: Do an hour on parapolitics and precious metals will be.
Speaker 1: Fun, fantastic, So join Tony there. We'll do our best
Speaker 1: to remember to send our viewers over. Rumble introduced a
Speaker 1: raid function so we can just pass the viewers over
Speaker 1: to your channel once we're doing so we'll do that.
Speaker 1: And again, thank you Tony for everything that you do.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And again people, he has set up David
Speaker 1: Night dot Gold so if you want to start investing
Speaker 1: in gold and silver, you can go through us to
Speaker 1: Tony and start getting and accumulating your own little reserve
Speaker 1: of it. So thank you again, Tony, and we appreciate
Speaker 1: having you on. Appreciate your insight.
Speaker 2: On all these things, you too, sir, Thanks Jrev.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we
Speaker 1: will be right back.
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