Speaker 1: So please have this conversation. Welcome to the fifty five
Speaker 1: carssee morning show, doctor Stanley ka Ridgeley. He's a clinical
Speaker 1: full professor of Strategic Management at Directional University, holds a
Speaker 1: doctor and master's in International International Relations and Security from
Speaker 1: Duke University and an International MBA from Temple U. Russian
Speaker 1: language linguist and former military intelligence officer and author of
Speaker 1: a book we're talking about today, d EI exposed how
Speaker 1: the biggest con of the century almost toppled higher education.
Speaker 1: Doctor Ridgeley, Welcome to the fifty five carsy morning. So
Speaker 1: it's a real pleasure to have you on this morning.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, the pleasures, Aline Brian, I appreciate it. Got
Speaker 2: a cup of job on my hand. I'm ready to
Speaker 2: talk Todi.
Speaker 1: All right, we're both java equipped. Good thing to have
Speaker 1: at this time of morning. Now, you know, part of
Speaker 1: me wants to think that this DEI and just by
Speaker 1: way of context, you know how old I am. I'm
Speaker 1: fifty nine years old. So this didn't exist up until
Speaker 1: almost you know, historically recently, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everybody's created a DEI department. College, universities, corporations have had
Speaker 1: this shoved down their throats, and part of me wants
Speaker 1: to conclude and maybe you can answer the question for me.
Speaker 1: This is made of This is just like a whole
Speaker 1: cloth creation designed to provide jobs for people who went
Speaker 1: to college and got worthless degrees in social justice. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that better?
Speaker 2: You know? I tell you what. That pretty much strips
Speaker 2: away the facade of DEDI. These are really skillless individuals
Speaker 2: who managed to get onto the university campus. And lord
Speaker 2: knows how they managed to do that, but they did it.
Speaker 2: They're the big con that I talk about in DEI exposed.
Speaker 2: These are folks with indeed worthless degrees and their work
Speaker 2: that they like to say they're doing the work of
Speaker 2: justice and that kind of thing. It's really basically just
Speaker 2: coercing people to believe a kind of a make believe
Speaker 2: world of the United States as a racist institution, you know,
Speaker 2: a racist country, and the colleges universities are somehow riven
Speaker 2: with white supremacy culture. It's a fraud, it's and it's
Speaker 2: a real injustice to our students to have admitted these
Speaker 2: people onto the campuses to perpetuate this nonsense.
Speaker 1: Well, and one of the beautiful things about the Trump
Speaker 1: administration say what you might or will about Donald Trump's administration,
Speaker 1: But the Department of Government Efficiency has revealed and shown
Speaker 1: to the American people how many billions of dollars are
Speaker 1: being shoved into college universities, largely in support of dei initiatives,
Speaker 1: as American taxpayer money used to indoctor and need college students.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why the left is so screaming, because they're
Speaker 2: being pulled off the teat of government support for these
Speaker 2: Naxi City he They have now have to deal with
Speaker 2: accountability and transparency, the kinds of thing that you and
Speaker 2: I have to deal with all the time with respect
Speaker 2: to the work. These folks want no strings attached money
Speaker 2: to perpetuate their ideology. They're being called out, and they're
Speaker 2: being called out in a way that universities understand. Funding
Speaker 2: and bad publicity. These are the only two things that
Speaker 2: can get a university to reform itself in university and
Speaker 2: higher education, and they've been lacking oversight for far too long.
Speaker 2: For instance, Harvard, you know you've got Harvard, which is
Speaker 2: you know they've been calling for, uh, this noble opposition
Speaker 2: to the Trump administration. But who runs Harvard? Well, it's
Speaker 2: the billionaire Penny Pritsker at the head of the Harvard
Speaker 2: Corporation with her fellow billionaire Bitty Madison and Bitty Martin.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and and these are these these are the oligarchs,
Speaker 2: the billionaire oligarchs that the left is always talking about,
Speaker 2: and they're in control of Harvard. And we don't we
Speaker 2: don't ever hear that. All we see is the President
Speaker 2: Garber standing up for academic freedom and freedom of speech.
Speaker 2: This is this is absurd. It's just a fraud.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's dive into motive. Now I can see.
Speaker 1: I mean, the useful idiots in the world. They don't
Speaker 1: do any thoughtful, logical, reasonable analysis of this. They don't
Speaker 1: understand how damaging to the American economy the removal of
Speaker 1: meritocracy is going to be. But if you're a billionaire
Speaker 1: billionaire like Pritzker, what what what's your what? What interest
Speaker 1: in this do you have? Why would you be pushing
Speaker 1: this and pressing this into say Harvard, do you university?
Speaker 2: Well? I think is this the fact of that that
Speaker 2: it's a money machine. When you look at it, it's
Speaker 2: basically drafting taking taxpayer money. You've got a fifty three
Speaker 2: billion dollar untaxed endowment. Aside from the one point one
Speaker 2: point seven percent one point four percent of a tax,
Speaker 2: which is the pittance. You've got this nine billion dollars
Speaker 2: of investment slash grant money from the United States government
Speaker 2: that is, no strings attached, no oversight, and you've got
Speaker 2: this uh, this hubrist that attaches to the Harvard name.
Speaker 2: And so you've got these billionaires that are there's there's
Speaker 2: thirteen members of the Harvard Corporation. Pritzker is the head
Speaker 2: of this corporation and they're they're basically is by the way,
Speaker 2: her brother is JB. Boss Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.
Speaker 2: There's nothing that comes this dating assent. They got their
Speaker 2: money through inheritance. They're the Hyatt hotel uh errors of
Speaker 2: that fortune. And so so I can't really speak to
Speaker 2: her motivation except to the idea of power and the
Speaker 2: ability through their money to actuate their ideology. And I'm
Speaker 2: going back to the whole idea of DEI. It's not
Speaker 2: what people think it is. And this has been the
Speaker 2: major strength of DEI. It's not creating a level playing
Speaker 2: field for everyone. It's not catering to marginalized populations, giving
Speaker 2: everyone a hand, a helping hand. It's not just teaching
Speaker 2: about race and teaching about slavery. No, it's none of
Speaker 2: those things. That those things happen, it's merely as a byproduct.
Speaker 2: It is the acceptance and propounding of a noxious, toxic
Speaker 2: doctrine of racialism, where everyone is slotted into one of
Speaker 2: two categories, either villain or victim, either you know, white
Speaker 2: non white, oppressor or oppressed, And nothing else in one's
Speaker 2: history matters, not your education, not your attitude, not your parents,
Speaker 2: you know, not your way of Nothing matters except race.
Speaker 2: And that is the dirty secret of DEI that is
Speaker 2: now being exposed.
Speaker 1: But to accomplish what because that is divisive and ruinous
Speaker 1: or society. It ruins the cohesiveness of the nation. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a little ill libertarian kind of guy. Live and
Speaker 1: let live. I trust you with your zipper and your wallet.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything from you. I'll let you do
Speaker 1: what you want to live your life as long as
Speaker 1: it doesn't intrude into my decision making, to my choices.
Speaker 1: We live under the banner of freedom, at least we
Speaker 1: used to. You know, the flag would stand for this
Speaker 1: freedom concept. Where yes, in the United States, you can
Speaker 1: be yourself and choose your own pursuits, but this is
Speaker 1: ruin us to that national cohesion. The flag is then
Speaker 1: viewed as a symbol of racism because of you know,
Speaker 1: historic racism and this whole concept the world just evil
Speaker 1: white supremacists. I mean, this is leading to the end
Speaker 1: of our country. And maybe is that the nefarious element
Speaker 1: that's going on behind all this. They don't want the
Speaker 1: United States to continue its amazing success.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, You've hit the nail on the
Speaker 2: head of the idea. It's a collectivist doctrum, the idea
Speaker 2: that your membership in a particular identity group supersedes and
Speaker 2: is far more important than your identity as an individual
Speaker 2: within the preferences, dreams, et cetera, et cetera. And I
Speaker 2: think this is the latest social justice canard that has
Speaker 2: basically achieved kind of a regnancy on the college campuses.
Speaker 2: And it's it's just the old wine, old collectivist wine
Speaker 2: in a new bottle. It's Marxism if you really wack
Speaker 2: it down to it. It's the idea of Marxist class
Speaker 2: consciousness has been replaced with race consciousness, and the framework
Speaker 2: is is virtually unchanged, and so This is the idea
Speaker 2: that it's somehow, some sort of racial equity type of
Speaker 2: things is really full. It's the old social justice crowd,
Speaker 2: collectivist crowd trying to supersede and trying to argue and
Speaker 2: coerce people into believing this notion of collectivism that your
Speaker 2: identity in a group is far more important than your
Speaker 2: identity as an individual.
Speaker 1: Well, and you're certainly not entitled your own opinion. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons I love college and law school so much,
Speaker 1: doctor is, you know, the Socratic method, the ide could
Speaker 1: have an exchange of ideas. There is this, you know,
Speaker 1: exchange of thoughts and concepts. And you weren't told that
Speaker 1: there was one particular point of view that you must
Speaker 1: follow or be ostracized or get an F on your paper.
Speaker 1: The world's obviously different place since then. And I think
Speaker 1: this is reflected in the in the media's shift to
Speaker 1: a far left sort of uniform lockstep left wing reporting
Speaker 1: perception because they're victims of this one sided view in
Speaker 1: college education and we've lost the media to this. I mean,
Speaker 1: is this something that can be undone? Can this bell
Speaker 1: be unwrung or is it too late? Because colleges are
Speaker 1: filled with professors who have a uniform ideology anymore. You
Speaker 1: can't be a conservative and teach college of courses anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, you certainly can't be a conservative being you know,
Speaker 2: have unlimited success. But the fact is that reforming higher
Speaker 2: educations will be very tough because they have had they
Speaker 2: succumb to ideological capture a long time ago. But I
Speaker 2: do think that Trump has been a Department of Education
Speaker 2: is doing the right thing. The only the only thing
Speaker 2: that universities understand is money and bad publicity. That's that's
Speaker 2: a lot. That's one thing that we can count on
Speaker 2: being true. So the Department of Education is utilizing funding
Speaker 2: is leverage against the universities, and yes, it is against
Speaker 2: the universities to become serious institutions again, become places where
Speaker 2: that marketplace of ideas is a reality, where those different
Speaker 2: ideas can you contend in an open debate rather than
Speaker 2: having certain views suppressed, as we find right now. And
Speaker 2: that is indeed the case. And I detail this, and
Speaker 2: I chronicle this, and DEI exposed do I exposed? DEI
Speaker 2: is simply this this latest did for in perimature over
Speaker 2: the universities, and they found it very useful because it
Speaker 2: sounds good, doesn't it. Diversity, equity, and inclusion, just like
Speaker 2: cults like the Moonies utilize the terms East and unity,
Speaker 2: that's their motto, and the inclusion and belonging. It sounds
Speaker 2: very cult like. Well, and that's because it is. Well.
Speaker 1: Anytime I see the word equity anymore, I get, I
Speaker 1: get very very concerned and worried. And the idea that
Speaker 1: I feel concerned because I have, you know, lots of
Speaker 1: black friends and a lot of Jewish friends, and you
Speaker 1: point out and DEI exposed that this is this concept
Speaker 1: of DEI has actually fueled anti Semitism. And I want
Speaker 1: to get I want to get your your explanation for that.
Speaker 1: But also the removal of meritocracy. There are many, many
Speaker 1: people of color that have reached lofty positions through their merit,
Speaker 1: through their experience and their knowledge of any given industry
Speaker 1: or position, they earned it. And this idea that you're
Speaker 1: going to just fill in a check mark that oh
Speaker 1: black check We're going to hire that person merely because
Speaker 1: they're the right color, even though there are more qualified
Speaker 1: Asians or pick a color, skin or nationality. We're not
Speaker 1: going to hire those people. We're going to put this
Speaker 1: person in because they meet this equity check box or
Speaker 1: diversity checkbox. That waters down and the gates those people
Speaker 1: who've actually earned those positions because people have this perception like, wow,
Speaker 1: you're a diversity higher I know you've heard that term before.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah. And I think it's unfortunate because I
Speaker 2: deal with and when students, I deal with a lot
Speaker 2: of intelligent, incredibly talented black students, you know, Indian students,
Speaker 2: Russian students, students of all racist creeds and colors, as
Speaker 2: they say, and there's no stigma attached to that. I mean,
Speaker 2: and who wants the stigma of the question mark behind
Speaker 2: your name? Did this person really earn something or did
Speaker 2: they just were they just checking someone else's tech matrix box? Right?
Speaker 2: And the idea that you're going to subvert someone's individual
Speaker 2: achievement by labeling them something like this, because it's not
Speaker 2: the conservative side or libertarian side or the republicanside labeling
Speaker 2: people DEI hires. It is the folks on the left.
Speaker 2: I think Joe Biden himself basically appointed a DEI hire
Speaker 2: as his running mate. And I think that this is stigma,
Speaker 2: is unfortunate and it's completely unnecessary. And I think we're
Speaker 2: going to finally move beyond this. I should point out
Speaker 2: that the latest executive order from last week striking down
Speaker 2: disparate impact, the idea that if you can show that
Speaker 2: there's some sort of statistical result that shows that somehow
Speaker 2: one group is having a different outcome than other groups,
Speaker 2: you can utilize this to prove individual discrimination against you.
Speaker 2: And this has been an absurd notion that is in
Speaker 2: our judicial system that is now being struck down. Those
Speaker 2: of us and social sciences know that this is a fraud,
Speaker 2: it's a fallacy. You can't do this because it's not valid.
Speaker 2: And yet we find that we've been following this disparate
Speaker 2: impact for quite some time. That's no longer repeat the case.
Speaker 1: Doctor Stanley Ridge, originally author of DEEI Exposed, and Doctor,
Speaker 1: we put your book on my web page at fifty
Speaker 1: five caresey dot com so my listeners can easily obtain
Speaker 1: a copy of it. And I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: real quickly here because I do have quite a few
Speaker 1: Jewish friends, you know, and not necessarily practicing Jews, they
Speaker 1: just had to be Jewish in terms of their ancestry.
Speaker 1: Some are in favor of Israel, some are in favor
Speaker 1: of Palestinian two state solutions. They're just a mixed bag
Speaker 1: of Jewish people. How has fueled anti Semitism And I
Speaker 1: don't understand how it is that there's some what their
Speaker 1: motivation is, and anger over the Jewish people is on
Speaker 1: college campuses as if the Nazis took over.
Speaker 2: Well, it's very similar in the sense that this it's
Speaker 2: an ideology, DEAs and ideology, and the ideology tells them
Speaker 2: to behave in certain ways. That ideology says that that
Speaker 2: Jews basically are white people and therefore undeserving of protections
Speaker 2: afforded other mimized people. That's what they say. And the
Speaker 2: fact is that the Jews, especially those from Israel, are
Speaker 2: considered settler colonialists. As a result, they are by definition
Speaker 2: of oppressors. So it doesn't matter how many assaults or
Speaker 2: bullying or trespassing or vandalism, that kind of thing is
Speaker 2: porpetrated against Jewish students, doesn't matter. And I have an
Speaker 2: entire chapter on this of howdi has perpetrated this anti
Speaker 2: Semitic ethos on campus, that it's okay to discriminate against
Speaker 2: Jewish students, it's okay to bully them and to assault
Speaker 2: them because they deserve it, because they are oppressors in
Speaker 2: this framework that I've described to you, that that's the
Speaker 2: core of DEI, that you and I are in a
Speaker 2: particular racial category and are deserving of our faith, the
Speaker 2: faith being determined by the DEI ideology. It's the thing
Speaker 2: that motivated Luigimangioni to kill Brian Thompson in New York.
Speaker 2: His ideology for him to do this.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I wish they were familiar with the concept
Speaker 1: of two wrongs don't make a right. That we once
Speaker 1: had slavery in the United States, and it was wrong,
Speaker 1: and we did right that wrong, and many laws were
Speaker 1: put into place, and many laws were struck from the
Speaker 1: books to remove that from our society. And we've made
Speaker 1: huge strides toward that, you know, everybody's equal kind of perception.
Speaker 1: They're destroying it. They're just they're turning it on its head.
Speaker 1: It's it's okay to discriminate against someone on the color
Speaker 1: based on the color of their skin. It's just got
Speaker 1: to be the right color in their eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. I'm really disturbed by a
Speaker 2: lot of students who buy into the whole social justice
Speaker 2: mantra and this social justice collectivist mantra. It has a
Speaker 2: whole host of ideologies under its umbrella, and DEI is
Speaker 2: just one of them. But it sounds very good for
Speaker 2: someone to say, well, I'm supporting I'm working for social justice.
Speaker 2: And if you probe beyond that cliche, you find there's
Speaker 2: not much there except the fact that the idea of coercion.
Speaker 2: I'm going to compel you to do something that I
Speaker 2: want you to do that my ideology tells you do
Speaker 2: because I have access to this hidden knowledge that the
Speaker 2: left has always been claiming on the college campuses. Doctor.
Speaker 1: Originally, it's been a fantastic conversation this morning. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate you spending time with my listeners and me to
Speaker 1: talk about your book, DEGI. I exposed how the biggest
Speaker 1: count of the century almost toppled higher education. I'll encourage
Speaker 1: my copy my listeners head over to my web page
Speaker 1: and get a copy of the book.
Speaker 2: Doctor.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for your time today and keep up the
Speaker 1: great work.