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<v Speaker 1>So please have this conversation. Welcome to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>carssee morning show, doctor Stanley ka Ridgeley. He's a clinical

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<v Speaker 1>full professor of Strategic Management at Directional University, holds a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and master's in International International Relations and Security from

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<v Speaker 1>Duke University and an International MBA from Temple U. Russian

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<v Speaker 1>language linguist and former military intelligence officer and author of

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<v Speaker 1>a book we're talking about today, d EI exposed how

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest con of the century almost toppled higher education.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Ridgeley, Welcome to the fifty five carsy morning. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a real pleasure to have you on this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, the pleasures, Aline Brian, I appreciate it. Got

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<v Speaker 2>a cup of job on my hand. I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 2>talk Todi.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're both java equipped. Good thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>at this time of morning. Now, you know, part of

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<v Speaker 1>me wants to think that this DEI and just by

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<v Speaker 1>way of context, you know how old I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine years old. So this didn't exist up until

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<v Speaker 1>almost you know, historically recently, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's created a DEI department. College, universities, corporations have had

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<v Speaker 1>this shoved down their throats, and part of me wants

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<v Speaker 1>to conclude and maybe you can answer the question for me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is made of This is just like a whole

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<v Speaker 1>cloth creation designed to provide jobs for people who went

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<v Speaker 1>to college and got worthless degrees in social justice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is that better?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I tell you what. That pretty much strips

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<v Speaker 2>away the facade of DEDI. These are really skillless individuals

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<v Speaker 2>who managed to get onto the university campus. And lord

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<v Speaker 2>knows how they managed to do that, but they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the big con that I talk about in DEI exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>These are folks with indeed worthless degrees and their work

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<v Speaker 2>that they like to say they're doing the work of

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<v Speaker 2>justice and that kind of thing. It's really basically just

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<v Speaker 2>coercing people to believe a kind of a make believe

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<v Speaker 2>world of the United States as a racist institution, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a racist country, and the colleges universities are somehow riven

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<v Speaker 2>with white supremacy culture. It's a fraud, it's and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a real injustice to our students to have admitted these

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<v Speaker 2>people onto the campuses to perpetuate this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and one of the beautiful things about the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration say what you might or will about Donald Trump's administration,

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<v Speaker 1>But the Department of Government Efficiency has revealed and shown

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people how many billions of dollars are

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<v Speaker 1>being shoved into college universities, largely in support of dei initiatives,

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<v Speaker 1>as American taxpayer money used to indoctor and need college students.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why the left is so screaming, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>being pulled off the teat of government support for these

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<v Speaker 2>Naxi City he They have now have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>accountability and transparency, the kinds of thing that you and

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<v Speaker 2>I have to deal with all the time with respect

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<v Speaker 2>to the work. These folks want no strings attached money

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<v Speaker 2>to perpetuate their ideology. They're being called out, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>being called out in a way that universities understand. Funding

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<v Speaker 2>and bad publicity. These are the only two things that

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<v Speaker 2>can get a university to reform itself in university and

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<v Speaker 2>higher education, and they've been lacking oversight for far too long.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, Harvard, you know you've got Harvard, which is

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<v Speaker 2>you know they've been calling for, uh, this noble opposition

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<v Speaker 2>to the Trump administration. But who runs Harvard? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the billionaire Penny Pritsker at the head of the Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>Corporation with her fellow billionaire Bitty Madison and Bitty Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, and and these are these these are the oligarchs,

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<v Speaker 2>the billionaire oligarchs that the left is always talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're in control of Harvard. And we don't we

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever hear that. All we see is the President

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<v Speaker 2>Garber standing up for academic freedom and freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is absurd. It's just a fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's dive into motive. Now I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the useful idiots in the world. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>do any thoughtful, logical, reasonable analysis of this. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how damaging to the American economy the removal of

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<v Speaker 1>meritocracy is going to be. But if you're a billionaire

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire like Pritzker, what what what's your what? What interest

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<v Speaker 1>in this do you have? Why would you be pushing

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<v Speaker 1>this and pressing this into say Harvard, do you university?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think is this the fact of that that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a money machine. When you look at it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>basically drafting taking taxpayer money. You've got a fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar untaxed endowment. Aside from the one point one

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<v Speaker 2>point seven percent one point four percent of a tax,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the pittance. You've got this nine billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>of investment slash grant money from the United States government

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<v Speaker 2>that is, no strings attached, no oversight, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>this uh, this hubrist that attaches to the Harvard name.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you've got these billionaires that are there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen members of the Harvard Corporation. Pritzker is the head

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<v Speaker 2>of this corporation and they're they're basically is by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>her brother is JB. Boss Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing that comes this dating assent. They got their

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<v Speaker 2>money through inheritance. They're the Hyatt hotel uh errors of

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<v Speaker 2>that fortune. And so so I can't really speak to

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<v Speaker 2>her motivation except to the idea of power and the

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<v Speaker 2>ability through their money to actuate their ideology. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going back to the whole idea of DEI. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>what people think it is. And this has been the

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<v Speaker 2>major strength of DEI. It's not creating a level playing

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<v Speaker 2>field for everyone. It's not catering to marginalized populations, giving

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<v Speaker 2>everyone a hand, a helping hand. It's not just teaching

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<v Speaker 2>about race and teaching about slavery. No, it's none of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. That those things happen, it's merely as a byproduct.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the acceptance and propounding of a noxious, toxic

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<v Speaker 2>doctrine of racialism, where everyone is slotted into one of

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<v Speaker 2>two categories, either villain or victim, either you know, white

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<v Speaker 2>non white, oppressor or oppressed, And nothing else in one's

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<v Speaker 2>history matters, not your education, not your attitude, not your parents,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not your way of Nothing matters except race.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the dirty secret of DEI that is

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<v Speaker 2>now being exposed.

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<v Speaker 1>But to accomplish what because that is divisive and ruinous

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<v Speaker 1>or society. It ruins the cohesiveness of the nation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little ill libertarian kind of guy. Live and

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<v Speaker 1>let live. I trust you with your zipper and your wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anything from you. I'll let you do

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to live your life as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't intrude into my decision making, to my choices.

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<v Speaker 1>We live under the banner of freedom, at least we

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<v Speaker 1>used to. You know, the flag would stand for this

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<v Speaker 1>freedom concept. Where yes, in the United States, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be yourself and choose your own pursuits, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>ruin us to that national cohesion. The flag is then

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as a symbol of racism because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>historic racism and this whole concept the world just evil

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacists. I mean, this is leading to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of our country. And maybe is that the nefarious element

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on behind all this. They don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>United States to continue its amazing success.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right, You've hit the nail on the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the idea. It's a collectivist doctrum, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that your membership in a particular identity group supersedes and

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<v Speaker 2>is far more important than your identity as an individual

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<v Speaker 2>within the preferences, dreams, et cetera, et cetera. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the latest social justice canard that has

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<v Speaker 2>basically achieved kind of a regnancy on the college campuses.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's just the old wine, old collectivist wine

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<v Speaker 2>in a new bottle. It's Marxism if you really wack

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<v Speaker 2>it down to it. It's the idea of Marxist class

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness has been replaced with race consciousness, and the framework

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<v Speaker 2>is is virtually unchanged, and so This is the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that it's somehow, some sort of racial equity type of

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<v Speaker 2>things is really full. It's the old social justice crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>collectivist crowd trying to supersede and trying to argue and

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<v Speaker 2>coerce people into believing this notion of collectivism that your

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<v Speaker 2>identity in a group is far more important than your

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<v Speaker 2>identity as an individual.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you're certainly not entitled your own opinion. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I love college and law school so much,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor is, you know, the Socratic method, the ide could

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<v Speaker 1>have an exchange of ideas. There is this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exchange of thoughts and concepts. And you weren't told that

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<v Speaker 1>there was one particular point of view that you must

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<v Speaker 1>follow or be ostracized or get an F on your paper.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's obviously different place since then. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is reflected in the in the media's shift to

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<v Speaker 1>a far left sort of uniform lockstep left wing reporting

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<v Speaker 1>perception because they're victims of this one sided view in

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<v Speaker 1>college education and we've lost the media to this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is this something that can be undone? Can this bell

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<v Speaker 1>be unwrung or is it too late? Because colleges are

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<v Speaker 1>filled with professors who have a uniform ideology anymore. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't be a conservative and teach college of courses anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you certainly can't be a conservative being you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have unlimited success. But the fact is that reforming higher

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<v Speaker 2>educations will be very tough because they have had they

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<v Speaker 2>succumb to ideological capture a long time ago. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that Trump has been a Department of Education

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<v Speaker 2>is doing the right thing. The only the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that universities understand is money and bad publicity. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. That's one thing that we can count on

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<v Speaker 2>being true. So the Department of Education is utilizing funding

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<v Speaker 2>is leverage against the universities, and yes, it is against

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<v Speaker 2>the universities to become serious institutions again, become places where

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<v Speaker 2>that marketplace of ideas is a reality, where those different

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<v Speaker 2>ideas can you contend in an open debate rather than

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<v Speaker 2>having certain views suppressed, as we find right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is indeed the case. And I detail this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I chronicle this, and DEI exposed do I exposed? DEI

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<v Speaker 2>is simply this this latest did for in perimature over

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<v Speaker 2>the universities, and they found it very useful because it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds good, doesn't it. Diversity, equity, and inclusion, just like

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<v Speaker 2>cults like the Moonies utilize the terms East and unity,

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<v Speaker 2>that's their motto, and the inclusion and belonging. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>very cult like. Well, and that's because it is. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime I see the word equity anymore, I get, I

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<v Speaker 1>get very very concerned and worried. And the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel concerned because I have, you know, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>black friends and a lot of Jewish friends, and you

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<v Speaker 1>point out and DEI exposed that this is this concept

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<v Speaker 1>of DEI has actually fueled anti Semitism. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get I want to get your your explanation for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the removal of meritocracy. There are many, many

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<v Speaker 1>people of color that have reached lofty positions through their merit,

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<v Speaker 1>through their experience and their knowledge of any given industry

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<v Speaker 1>or position, they earned it. And this idea that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to just fill in a check mark that oh

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<v Speaker 1>black check We're going to hire that person merely because

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<v Speaker 1>they're the right color, even though there are more qualified

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<v Speaker 1>Asians or pick a color, skin or nationality. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to hire those people. We're going to put this

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<v Speaker 1>person in because they meet this equity check box or

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<v Speaker 1>diversity checkbox. That waters down and the gates those people

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<v Speaker 1>who've actually earned those positions because people have this perception like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a diversity higher I know you've heard that term before.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well yeah. And I think it's unfortunate because I

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<v Speaker 2>deal with and when students, I deal with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of intelligent, incredibly talented black students, you know, Indian students,

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<v Speaker 2>Russian students, students of all racist creeds and colors, as

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<v Speaker 2>they say, and there's no stigma attached to that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and who wants the stigma of the question mark behind

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<v Speaker 2>your name? Did this person really earn something or did

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<v Speaker 2>they just were they just checking someone else's tech matrix box? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea that you're going to subvert someone's individual

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<v Speaker 2>achievement by labeling them something like this, because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the conservative side or libertarian side or the republicanside labeling

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<v Speaker 2>people DEI hires. It is the folks on the left.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Joe Biden himself basically appointed a DEI hire

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<v Speaker 2>as his running mate. And I think that this is stigma,

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<v Speaker 2>is unfortunate and it's completely unnecessary. And I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to finally move beyond this. I should point out

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<v Speaker 2>that the latest executive order from last week striking down

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<v Speaker 2>disparate impact, the idea that if you can show that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some sort of statistical result that shows that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>one group is having a different outcome than other groups,

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<v Speaker 2>you can utilize this to prove individual discrimination against you.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has been an absurd notion that is in

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<v Speaker 2>our judicial system that is now being struck down. Those

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<v Speaker 2>of us and social sciences know that this is a fraud,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fallacy. You can't do this because it's not valid.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet we find that we've been following this disparate

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<v Speaker 2>impact for quite some time. That's no longer repeat the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Stanley Ridge, originally author of DEEI Exposed, and Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>we put your book on my web page at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five caresey dot com so my listeners can easily obtain

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of it. And I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>real quickly here because I do have quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish friends, you know, and not necessarily practicing Jews, they

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<v Speaker 1>just had to be Jewish in terms of their ancestry.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are in favor of Israel, some are in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of Palestinian two state solutions. They're just a mixed bag

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<v Speaker 1>of Jewish people. How has fueled anti Semitism And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how it is that there's some what their

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<v Speaker 1>motivation is, and anger over the Jewish people is on

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<v Speaker 1>college campuses as if the Nazis took over.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's very similar in the sense that this it's

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<v Speaker 2>an ideology, DEAs and ideology, and the ideology tells them

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<v Speaker 2>to behave in certain ways. That ideology says that that

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<v Speaker 2>Jews basically are white people and therefore undeserving of protections

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<v Speaker 2>afforded other mimized people. That's what they say. And the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is that the Jews, especially those from Israel, are

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<v Speaker 2>considered settler colonialists. As a result, they are by definition

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<v Speaker 2>of oppressors. So it doesn't matter how many assaults or

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<v Speaker 2>bullying or trespassing or vandalism, that kind of thing is

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<v Speaker 2>porpetrated against Jewish students, doesn't matter. And I have an

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<v Speaker 2>entire chapter on this of howdi has perpetrated this anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitic ethos on campus, that it's okay to discriminate against

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish students, it's okay to bully them and to assault

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<v Speaker 2>them because they deserve it, because they are oppressors in

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<v Speaker 2>this framework that I've described to you, that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>core of DEI, that you and I are in a

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<v Speaker 2>particular racial category and are deserving of our faith, the

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<v Speaker 2>faith being determined by the DEI ideology. It's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that motivated Luigimangioni to kill Brian Thompson in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>His ideology for him to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's I wish they were familiar with the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of two wrongs don't make a right. That we once

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<v Speaker 1>had slavery in the United States, and it was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did right that wrong, and many laws were

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<v Speaker 1>books to remove that from our society. And we've made

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<v Speaker 1>huge strides toward that, you know, everybody's equal kind of perception.

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<v Speaker 1>They're destroying it. They're just they're turning it on its head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's okay to discriminate against someone on the color

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<v Speaker 1>based on the color of their skin. It's just got

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<v Speaker 1>to be the right color in their eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is. I'm really disturbed by a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of students who buy into the whole social justice

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<v Speaker 2>mantra and this social justice collectivist mantra. It has a

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<v Speaker 2>whole host of ideologies under its umbrella, and DEI is

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<v Speaker 2>just one of them. But it sounds very good for

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<v Speaker 2>someone to say, well, I'm supporting I'm working for social justice.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you probe beyond that cliche, you find there's

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<v Speaker 2>not much there except the fact that the idea of coercion.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to compel you to do something that I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to do that my ideology tells you do

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<v Speaker 2>because I have access to this hidden knowledge that the

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<v Speaker 2>left has always been claiming on the college campuses. Doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally, it's been a fantastic conversation this morning. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you spending time with my listeners and me to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your book, DEGI. I exposed how the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>count of the century almost toppled higher education. I'll encourage

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<v Speaker 1>my copy my listeners head over to my web page

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<v Speaker 1>and get a copy of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again for your time today and keep up the

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<v Speaker 1>great work.