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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Rugby League Coach Podcast, Episode two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty seven. We are in season four. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Lee Addison. I am the owner of Rugby League

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Rugby League Coach dot com. But are you the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest online rugby league coaching resource in the world. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a coach mentor, coach educator, coach consultant, and I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>the author of Rugby League Coach, Thirteen Game Changing Conversations

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<v Speaker 2>to Transform Your Coaching and I'm actually going to read

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<v Speaker 2>you two small segments from it today. Be story time

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<v Speaker 2>from Lee. I'm going to do that straight away. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a big consumer of water, and my water is sponsored

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<v Speaker 2>by the Global League Network and you can find them

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<v Speaker 2>on Global League Dot Network. That's Global League Dot Network. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I've picked out two little bits from the book for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I have something at the start called thirteen Things Coaches

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<v Speaker 2>Do Wrong, and then I have thirteen chapters which are

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<v Speaker 2>designed to make coaches better. So I hope you see

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<v Speaker 2>the irony in that thirteen things that coaches do wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and thirteen things we want them to do right thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>versus thirteen. Number eight of my thirteen things is treating,

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<v Speaker 2>conditioning and ballwork has two separate things, and I write

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who has been involved with rugby league for a

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<v Speaker 2>significant enough amount of time will realize that many training

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<v Speaker 2>sessions over the years have been separated into fitness or

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<v Speaker 2>conditioning work and then ballwork. This invariably involves players being

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<v Speaker 2>asked to warm up and then partake in anything between

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen to forty five minutes in most cases of hard

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<v Speaker 2>physical work. After this often grueling introduction to training, then

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<v Speaker 2>the players might be lucky to see a football in

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<v Speaker 2>pre season. Sometimes the ball isn't seen for months. The

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<v Speaker 2>less sophisticated versions of this hard physical work often we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see different types of running that get the players so

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<v Speaker 2>tired they can hardly breathe, walk, or function correctly for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. The more thought out and considered versions of

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<v Speaker 2>this are measured, timed and follow principle led approaches. For

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, let's consider the principle led approaches that we

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<v Speaker 2>should all be aware of as coaches. We don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>need to be experts in the field, but a good

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<v Speaker 2>overarching knowledge of the concepts will allow you to plan

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<v Speaker 2>appropriate activities or make sure you ask the right questions

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<v Speaker 2>of and keep accountable the ones that are planning them

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<v Speaker 2>for you. These principles should thread through everything we ever

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<v Speaker 2>do as athletes or coaches. If they don't, then we

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<v Speaker 2>are leaving everything to chance and potentially not improving anything

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<v Speaker 2>at all. With no knowledge of sports science principles, you

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<v Speaker 2>are simply leaving it to chance. If you are doing

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<v Speaker 2>this work without rhyme or reason, you need to change

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<v Speaker 2>it immediately. You could be harming your players. I will

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<v Speaker 2>put this in the simplest terms I can for you

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<v Speaker 2>the reader. I will referring to these principles in chapter

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<v Speaker 2>six of this book when I discuss planning sessions. If

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<v Speaker 2>you find yourself intrigued by the conditioning Manu Shy being

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<v Speaker 2>hinted at here, and you want to learn more about

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<v Speaker 2>this topic, please head to chapter nine. Work and rest

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<v Speaker 2>ratios are often labeled in numerical form. For example, a

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<v Speaker 2>two to one ratio would represent twice the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>work rest. The first number represents the duration of work

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<v Speaker 2>and the second the duration of rest. An exercise designed

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<v Speaker 2>to improve higher endurance levels and increased cardiovascular activity and

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<v Speaker 2>ability would have an equal or higher duration of work

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<v Speaker 2>figure than the rest figure. For example, one to one,

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<v Speaker 2>one point five to one, two to one, three to one,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. These are the kinds of activities that get

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<v Speaker 2>players tired over a prolonged period. They are the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of drills that lead players to exhaustion, deep breathing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that burning the legs that makes them feel they can't

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<v Speaker 2>control them anymore. You can teach practice skills and condition

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<v Speaker 2>your players at the same time and in a far

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyable way than the old school methods. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>party of the first section. Okay, I'm going to read

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<v Speaker 2>you number nine now as well. I hope you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>story time with Lee number nine coaching and judging the

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<v Speaker 2>performance of players when they run against fresh air while

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<v Speaker 2>you are sat reading to this book, reading this book,

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<v Speaker 2>or should I say, in your case, listening, please do

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<v Speaker 2>me a favor if you are able. Number one, put

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<v Speaker 2>the book down. Number two, stand up, Number three, pretend

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<v Speaker 2>you are a championship level boxer and throw some shadow punches.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't punch anyone or anything. Instead, just box against

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<v Speaker 2>fresh air for about ten seconds. Number four, Sit down again.

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<v Speaker 2>Number five, grab the book again. Number six read on.

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<v Speaker 2>The chances are you threw some excellent punches. Depending on

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<v Speaker 2>your age, you're probably picturing yourself as Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson,

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<v Speaker 2>the Klitchko Brothers, or Alexander U. Sik right now, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on your ability and age. There is a chance that

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<v Speaker 2>you actually did resemble one of those very famous, some

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<v Speaker 2>very successful boxers in your ten second bout against no

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<v Speaker 2>One against fresh air. Anyone looks good against fresh air,

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<v Speaker 2>but please don't try any of the next things at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine we put a light or heavy punching bag in

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<v Speaker 2>some resistance to work against and it would move. If

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<v Speaker 2>we put a heavier punch bag in front, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>even more resistance. Regardless of your fitness level. It will

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<v Speaker 2>fatigue you more quickly than shadow boxing, and you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to pick and choose when and wear your punch, getting

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<v Speaker 2>your timing right. Should I bother putting someone in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you to avoid your punches and to punch you back,

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<v Speaker 2>they will move their feet too, so you might have

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<v Speaker 2>to move yours Hopefully. Imagining these phases of your most

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<v Speaker 2>recent development as a potential world class boxer gave you

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<v Speaker 2>some indication that there is a difference between training in

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<v Speaker 2>front of fresh air, training with a controlled level of opposition,

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<v Speaker 2>and then actually competing against a walking, talking human being

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<v Speaker 2>with their own brain. Later in chapter five you'll learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to navigate that in your training. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>end of story time. But what I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what the chapters are, because I did refer

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<v Speaker 2>to some chapters there. So that's part one, thirteen things

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<v Speaker 2>coaches do wrong the start of the book as a

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<v Speaker 2>forward by James Tedesco. There's a little note from me

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<v Speaker 2>in an introduction. Part two is the thirteen things I

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<v Speaker 2>want coaches to focus on doing right. So number one

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<v Speaker 2>coaching is more than just exes and out. Number two

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<v Speaker 2>is change management. Number three is footing and coaching talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Number four is what to coach? Number five, how to

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<v Speaker 2>coach it, number six, how to plan it, number seven,

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<v Speaker 2>how to manage it, number eight, long term player development,

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<v Speaker 2>number nine, A strength and conditioning overview, number ten, recruitment

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<v Speaker 2>and watching players, number eleven, Analyzing the game, number twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>look after Yourself coach, and number thirteen coaching in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first century. And then part three is called the

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<v Speaker 2>Coaches Calling. Okay, So that's enough of storytime from Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want that book, hit me up or go

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon or wherever and purchase it there. I'm now

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<v Speaker 2>going to play an old clip be a few minutes

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<v Speaker 2>back in the lockdown days five years ago, did a

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<v Speaker 2>question an answer, So people sent me questions and I

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<v Speaker 2>gave answers off and from my car. So here's an

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<v Speaker 2>old clip is about five years old. Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to answer a couple of those questions

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<v Speaker 2>that I got last week that I said I got

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<v Speaker 2>from a coach, a friend and follower in Melbourne. Please

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<v Speaker 2>send your questions through about coaching, about playing, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>I've low I've got a few on a batlog already.

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<v Speaker 2>To one of the questions that our friend in Melbourne said,

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<v Speaker 2>how to coach fifteen year old? How do you make

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<v Speaker 2>them keen to train when really the fun and the

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<v Speaker 2>easy option will and he sort of says that they

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<v Speaker 2>need to step up and step up the training well

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<v Speaker 2>straight away.

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<v Speaker 1>Either. The best bit of advice I give you there,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, is to make your training look fun and easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually step it up.

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<v Speaker 2>So the way I do that is I do that

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<v Speaker 2>through conditioning games an awful lot, but I'd make things

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<v Speaker 2>happen in the game that make it a hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot harder. So, for example, imagine you were playing

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<v Speaker 2>a small sided game and then the defensive team on

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<v Speaker 2>every player the ball had to get up and down

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground, or one of them matter run round

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, or had to run round a post or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be. Anything to make that game harder.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my advice there. So my ultimate advice there

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<v Speaker 2>If they're wrapped up in a game, they'll forget about

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<v Speaker 2>winning and competing in that game. I hope that helps you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need any ideas, go on the YouTube page

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<v Speaker 2>which is free, or Rugby League coach dot com dot au.

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<v Speaker 2>The other question, the same gentleman asked, is how can

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff get more from parents? And what he means

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<v Speaker 2>in that is communication, And my advice is communication.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about how you do your communication now golden rule.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always worked too when it comes to communicating with players.

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<v Speaker 2>What too many people tend to do, sorry, communicate with

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<v Speaker 2>players or coaches or parents, whatever it may.

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<v Speaker 1>Communicating with anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>What too many people tend to do is use one

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<v Speaker 2>is to communicate regularly with all parents, be honest with

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<v Speaker 2>them about what you want and why you're communicating with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and how they can be part of the partnership if

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<v Speaker 2>you like, between coach and parents, to move your team forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But the golden rule is some people will be good

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<v Speaker 2>with text, some will be good with Facebook Messenger, some

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<v Speaker 2>will be good with WhatsApp, some will be good with email,

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<v Speaker 2>some will be good with fax machines, some will be

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<v Speaker 2>good with carry a pigeon. And I suppose you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to work out the best method, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>only trial and error. And some parents, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>you can unicate with them, no matter how often you communicate,

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<v Speaker 2>they won't give a rats. But all you can do

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<v Speaker 2>is try and make them aware and make them feel

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<v Speaker 2>that they are part of their child progression. Going back

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<v Speaker 2>to the fifteen year old as well, it's just something

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<v Speaker 2>that's come to my mind answering that question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Fifteen year old ish is when.

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<v Speaker 2>The distractions start to kick in right where they find

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<v Speaker 2>other things in life. The emphasis has to be on

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<v Speaker 2>fund in your training more than ever. But you've definitely

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to disguise the work in there and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of fool them if you like. If you need any

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<v Speaker 2>tips from that, you know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're back with.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee on episode two five seven of the Rugby League

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Podcast. In every walk of life, life and in

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<v Speaker 2>the game of rugby league, people regroup. Okay, So what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean by that is, whatever you're competing in against

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<v Speaker 2>someone else, be it business, be it work, be it

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<v Speaker 2>a game of rugby league, be it you a coach

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<v Speaker 2>or your player, you've got to give the opposition the

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<v Speaker 2>respect that they are going to work out what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to calibrate themselves with what you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to come back with something else. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try and give you an example. If you start again

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<v Speaker 2>with side to side ball movement and have some success

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<v Speaker 2>with that, there's every chance the opposition will either slide quicker,

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<v Speaker 2>and down and up and down throughout the warm up,

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<v Speaker 2>warming up the twenty five minute warm up was for

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty five minute each half game their warm what

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<v Speaker 2>was one third of their physical output that day? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make sense, does it? And this is because coaching apprenticeship

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<v Speaker 2>still matter. Not long after recorded last week's podcast, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>two years now. Matt King has done a decent apprenticeship.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been an assistant for a long time both

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<v Speaker 2>so he's done a decent apprenticeship. Okay, that will still

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting though because he's not been a head coach

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<v Speaker 2>of a team, so let's see. Okay. But anyway, this

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<v Speaker 2>at the Manly Seagulls. A lot of media talk has

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of hindsight and probably the bigger issue than

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<v Speaker 2>the individuals is the pathway now care and forum. Given

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<v Speaker 2>the Manly job, I've had an ex Manly player have

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<v Speaker 2>a go at me on socials saying all you ever

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<v Speaker 2>do is criticized coaches look for negatives. May have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard me criticized Craig Bellamy? Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>me criticize Wayne Bennett? I went through a phase at

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<v Speaker 2>and he seems to have adapted and based on the

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<v Speaker 2>not having listened to my criticisms. But I think he

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<v Speaker 2>is smart enough. And there's so many coaches I have not criticized.

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Schutt. I've not criticized this. Coaches have praised. Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Webster is one example. Not put a foot wrong. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as I can see, so many of praise. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you write things like that, all you're doing is

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<v Speaker 2>taking what you want from my content, right, And anybody

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<v Speaker 2>do some background research. Quite frankly, for years I've said

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<v Speaker 2>coaching is a profession, and Caring Forum finished one profession

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<v Speaker 2>and within a matter of months was given another without

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<v Speaker 2>doing an apprenticeship. Benji Marshall quite a similar scenario, although

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<v Speaker 2>Benji Marshall did initially sign a contract under Tim Sheens

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<v Speaker 2>to work under Tim Sheen's for two years, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the machinations of the West Tigers meant he got the

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<v Speaker 2>job early. And what we're seeing in both cases is

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<v Speaker 2>them learning on the job. They're learning on the job

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<v Speaker 2>in front of thousands and millions of eyes and so

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<v Speaker 2>much scrutiny. Coaching is a profession. It's just like teaching

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<v Speaker 2>medicine or engineering. In rugby league, we still fall into

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<v Speaker 2>the trap of believing that because someone was an elite player,

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<v Speaker 2>that they'll naturally become an elite coach. History tells us

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<v Speaker 2>that simply is not true, right, and playing and coaching

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<v Speaker 2>are two completely different skill sets. Playing is about executing.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing is about seeing things on the field that you

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<v Speaker 2>can't necessarily describe. Sometimes playing is about using and new

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<v Speaker 2>human instincts to overcome several hurdles. I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, rugby league is of me versus

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<v Speaker 2>you game, right, there's a lot of physicality in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaching is about developing, planning, communicating, leading, managing people, managing upwards,

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<v Speaker 2>managing downwards, having business ideas and business structures in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>developing staff as well as developing players, projecting ahead, planning ahead, recruitment,

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the media, controlling narratives, communicating with your fans.

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<v Speaker 2>So I could go on and on and on. They're

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<v Speaker 2>completely different jobs, aren't they. And people like Forum and

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<v Speaker 2>people like Marshal. I mean, some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>Benji is dealing with right now now in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the Adam Dewey situations, are on lu Eye being a

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<v Speaker 2>leader inside the place and talking the talk and then

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<v Speaker 2>the reality being somewhat different as soon as P and

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<v Speaker 2>G came knocking. Paul Benji is having to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>this in front of the public, and he's got his

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<v Speaker 2>messaging wrong vis a vis the Dowiet scenario. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>people leaking things outside the club. All his talk has

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<v Speaker 2>been about team first, club first. Yet a player refuses

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<v Speaker 2>to play and then gets into the team the next week,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they try and explain why he refuse to play,

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<v Speaker 2>even though that itself is it's probably one step too far,

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<v Speaker 2>going that far and saying I'm not playing in this

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<v Speaker 2>team and this is all happening. Wow, people are watching

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<v Speaker 2>on television. Social media analyzes every decision and that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>before even the club have processed it. Imagine asking a

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<v Speaker 2>first year school teacher to become a principal imagine asking

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<v Speaker 2>a year twelve kid, but by the way, next year,

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<v Speaker 2>can you just become principal even if they were great

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<v Speaker 2>at academics, not you. Or asking a newly qualified electrician

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<v Speaker 2>to run a national company or a big regional role.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd never do it, would we. Rugby League always asks

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<v Speaker 2>inexperienced coaches to lead multi million and all a football

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<v Speaker 2>departments and franchises with enormous expectations. Billy Slater is learning

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<v Speaker 2>on the job as Queensland coach. But there's fundamental things

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<v Speaker 2>every coach has to master, and some of those are obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you plan a session? How do you structure

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<v Speaker 2>so every player understands their role. They're the obvious things,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't they really? But then this is where the things

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say now are where we separate a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of coaches. How do you review your performances through

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<v Speaker 2>what lens? How do you manage your assistance? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you build standards with coaches and players? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>deal with selection, confidence, injuries and any pressure that you

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<v Speaker 2>get from losing streaks or media be it local or

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<v Speaker 2>might be from the committee, it might be from your

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<v Speaker 2>parents if you're a junior coach. None of those things

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<v Speaker 2>are learned by kicking goals, making titles, or winning premierships

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<v Speaker 2>as a player, or not winning premierships as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>They learned through studying, coaching, coaching, and reflecting on coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>They're learned through making mistakes, learned by watching experienced coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions of them regularly, and gradually taking on more

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility as you go along, working with more experienced coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>and then developing your own mindset and think I do

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<v Speaker 2>this differently, I do that differently. That's why apprenticeships matter.

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<v Speaker 2>The best coaches I've seen, the best coaches I've worked with,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just appear overnight. They spent years coaching junior teams, reserve,

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<v Speaker 2>grade school football, representive football, or working as assistants. They

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<v Speaker 2>by the time they made head coach their job, they've

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<v Speaker 2>learned so many of the lessons. And everything I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>now doesn't mean Benji Marshall or care and form can't

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<v Speaker 2>become outstanding. That's not what I'm saying far from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the best coaches in history had difficult starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean you can't be a great coach if you've

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<v Speaker 2>You just need the support. The point is, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is an overriding principle of this podcast always, is that

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<v Speaker 2>coaching development takes time, and every player who gets thrown

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<v Speaker 2>in as a coach the experiences should remind that coach

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<v Speaker 2>that there are no shortcuts. You've got to learn your

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<v Speaker 2>craft at whatever you do. And my advice to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>coaches is coach as much as you can, coach as

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<v Speaker 2>many teams as you can, observe experience. Coaches reflect after

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<v Speaker 2>every session, constantly work on the way you communicate with people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you now, I mean I've been coaching for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven years. The way I communicate with players now,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of age, is different to how it was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven years ago. Try and become a great teacher and

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<v Speaker 2>a great mentor before you try to become a head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>because coaching will not be what union as a player too.

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<v Speaker 2>So the further you're removed from your playing career, the

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<v Speaker 2>game will have moved on. It's about what you can

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<v Speaker 2>help other people learn, and what you can teach other people,

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<v Speaker 2>and how you can mentor other people. That's a real

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<v Speaker 2>professional profession of coaching. You'll find thousands of coaching resources

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<v Speaker 2>and lots of advice at rugby league coach dot com

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<v Speaker 2>to say you keep coaching, keep learning, and keep helping

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<v Speaker 2>players become the very best version of themselves. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this a couple of weeks ago about why we coach,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the greatest part of coaching probably isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the trophies or the medals. It's not seeing your name

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<v Speaker 2>in the paper. I think it's about watching people become

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<v Speaker 2>something they never believe they could be. Isn't it helping

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<v Speaker 2>people discover a version of themselves that they didn't know existed.

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of a few jobs where I've instantly

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<v Speaker 2>just created confidence just by looking at people in a

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<v Speaker 2>different way to the way they've been looked at before

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of their skill sets. Sports and therefore, rugby

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<v Speaker 2>league is one of life's greatest classrooms. I always say

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<v Speaker 2>rugby league is a metaphor for life. You have the

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<v Speaker 2>workers who do the same thing every time they asked

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<v Speaker 2>to do something, and they tend to be in the forwards,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have the stars, and they tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the backs, and they have some glamour about what

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<v Speaker 2>they do and when they do it's very exciting. You

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<v Speaker 2>to be organized by somebody else. Leaders and followers. Sport

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<v Speaker 2>and rugby league teaches resilience when things don't go your way.

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<v Speaker 2>It teaches the one percenters the hard work in a game,

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<v Speaker 2>the inside slide, the kickchase, the work at mark, and

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<v Speaker 2>so many others. But it also teaches us that even

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<v Speaker 2>though we play every week, the seven days leading up

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<v Speaker 2>to that, there's a lot of hard work too, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's sacrifice when nobody is watching. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>phrases is champions are made when no one is watching.

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<v Speaker 2>It teaches accountability, teamwork, and perseverance. Every now and then,

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<v Speaker 2>you coach a team that reminds you why you fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love with coaching in the first place, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>A few years ago now, I coached one such team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know I've mentioned it in the book too.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything that could go wrong in the year went wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Players left throughout the season for one reason or another.

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<v Speaker 2>None of it was due to the team, It was

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a scrum half and standoff available to you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot listening in England and New Zealand. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had to make the fullback the chief ball distributor, and

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<v Speaker 2>I played two extra props in what we normally have

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<v Speaker 2>as a six or seven. Of course they couldn't fit

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<v Speaker 2>in those jerseys right. So during the game I had

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<v Speaker 2>two subs maximum that were capable of being on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I only had two subs with that down

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<v Speaker 2>that much down to our bare bone, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>make the first interchange until a forty second minute. Most

429
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<v Speaker 2>teams would have found excuses, wouldn't they. These players found solutions.

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<v Speaker 2>They won the Grand Final thirty seven nil. I think

431
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<v Speaker 2>sometime in August or September. But the defining moment wasn't

432
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<v Speaker 2>that Grand finally actually came months earlier. Early in the

433
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<v Speaker 2>comp We lost again and it was a game that hurt.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Yet that defeat was the turning point. From that moment on,

435
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<v Speaker 2>everything changed. The next five matches alone, they scored two

436
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty seven points and conceded just twenty two.

437
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>The team lacked superstar talent, and there's not many would

438
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<v Speaker 2>get on a highlights reel, but what they had in

439
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<v Speaker 2>buckets was courage, and they had makeship. They had determination

440
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and discipline about much of what they did, and an

441
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>incredible level of mental toughness. I think they discovered something

442
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<v Speaker 2>that many talented teams never do, and that's the belief

443
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>can become your greatest weapon. I remember with that team,

444
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<v Speaker 2>I put it back on them at one point about

445
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<v Speaker 2>how they were training, et cetera, how they were preparing,

446
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and they completely owned it, communicated with each other overnight

447
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 2>via their social media carriers, and came back a different

448
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>team again. And that season reinforced something I've believed for

449
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and that's that guest talent can win

450
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>us games, but character gives us a chance to win championships.

451
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I often say this every big competition I've won as

452
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<v Speaker 2>a coach, and I think I've won something like fourteen.

453
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>My teams could defend for days on their goal line.

454
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<v Speaker 2>They just had that desire to do more to help

455
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<v Speaker 2>each other to go the extra mile for each other

456
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and that's character as coaches. We don't always remember every

457
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>score line years later, do we. We often remember how

458
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>it was achieved and this was a team and there's

459
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>been so many others. Every team that won a premiership

460
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>with refused to quit and hopefully those lessons are learned

461
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>long after the final whistle. And as I keep saying,

462
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<v Speaker 2>we coach more than just footballers. We coach people and

463
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it's about create better people, isn't it. As I say

464
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to here each week, it seems I've done a lot

465
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<v Speaker 2>of work in putting long term player development models in

466
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.679
<v Speaker 2>at clubs and schools. I actually created two of what

467
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<v Speaker 2>are now the biggest rugby league schools in Australia. In

468
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>terms of a rugby league program, every club that fails

469
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>has no plan or a plan that they throw out

470
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 2>every year or two. Every club that is successful has

471
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a plan that is sustainable and it's sustainable for the

472
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<v Speaker 2>future and they stay on the path. I also have

473
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<v Speaker 2>an ability right now to provide mentoring and mentoring for

474
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<v Speaker 2>coaches and clinics all around Australia, regardless of your budgets

475
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<v Speaker 2>or want you to get in touch email admin at

476
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<v Speaker 2>Rugby League Coach dot com. But ay you message me

477
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>at Rugby League Coach on Socials, Instagram and Facebook to

478
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 2>send me a message please, but you can get us

479
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 2>on most carriers apart from Snapchat. Can't be bothered with that,

480
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and x is at RL coach on the net. One

481
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<v Speaker 2>of the big things I'm passionate about is the bush

482
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<v Speaker 2>and country rugby league and wherever you are in New

483
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<v Speaker 2>South Wales and Queensland in particular, I want you to

484
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<v Speaker 2>reach out please. Every week in the last few weeks

485
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<v Speaker 2>I've read out a list of places. Please listen back

486
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<v Speaker 2>to the old pods. I don't want some people will

487
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<v Speaker 2>be scrolling past this bit because they've heard it for

488
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 2>the last two weeks. But yeah, look, if you're in Australia,

489
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>if you're in England, where ever New Zealand, reach out. Okay.

490
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Remember as a coach, what you let go is what

491
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you allow and what you walk past is what you allow.

492
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<v Speaker 2>A lot of things at Rugby League Coach dot com

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<v Speaker 2>to tay you are thirty to fifty off right now.

494
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<v Speaker 1>This is the.

495
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<v Speaker 2>If you like, the period where most coaches just want

496
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<v Speaker 2>to get to the end of the year and then

497
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 2>they'll see where they end up. Some of them are

498
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>wrapped up in trying to win a comp. Others are

499
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>is resigned to the fact that they might not win.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a good time to come on the Coach

501
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<v Speaker 2>Mental program get in touch. But also we've got deals

502
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<v Speaker 2>on the yearly coach access to Rugby League Coach dot

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<v Speaker 2>com to tay you. We've got a deal on the

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<v Speaker 2>yearly full access to that website too. We've got deals

505
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<v Speaker 2>on lifetime access, and we've got deals on website access

506
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<v Speaker 2>to everything. I've got two websites, Rugby League Coach dot

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<v Speaker 2>to tay you Together. They retail over one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get all that for half plus some mentoring

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<v Speaker 2>as well, So that's one on one direct mentoring with me.

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<v Speaker 2>So please please go and have a look at Rugby

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<v Speaker 2>League Coach dot com to tear you forward, slash Coach

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<v Speaker 2>mentor or Rugby League Coach dot com to tight au

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<v Speaker 2>Forward Slash shop and have a look at some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things. Weekly. I hosts Super League three sixty podcasts

516
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<v Speaker 2>and I am going to tell you now that soon

517
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<v Speaker 2>after the NRL and Super League season finish. Anyway, there's

518
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<v Speaker 2>going to be a Rugby League History podcast with myself,

519
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Tony Collins, probably the most pre eminent historian in rugby league,

520
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>and Andrew Ferguson, who Tony Collins said, without even skipping

521
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<v Speaker 2>a beat, he's we needed to get on the show too.

522
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<v Speaker 2>So look, I'm an amateur when it comes to history,

523
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 2>but I love it and I'll I'll be asking the questions,

524
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>pulling the thing together between those two great historians. And

525
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start with World Cup things because obviously

526
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<v Speaker 2>the World Cup is on.

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<v Speaker 1>So get ready for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be called the Rugby League History Podcast

529
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<v Speaker 2>with myself, Tony Collins and Andrew Ferguson. I do Super

530
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 2>League three sixty with John Davidson, as I've said, and

531
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<v Speaker 2>we'll be doing World Cup coverage too, so that will

532
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<v Speaker 2>be Super League three sixty of the World Cup editions

533
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. I'm also on the Loose Carry

534
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>podcast with Zero Tackle each week. And remember many journalists

535
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>in the world of rugby league, they say only the

536
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<v Speaker 2>things that they feel comfortable saying because they need players

537
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 2>to interview, etc. They need the coaches to interview, and

538
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 2>if they get them off side, they could be turned down.

539
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Zero Tackle tends not to have that problem because it's

540
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<v Speaker 2>an independent provider and stays independent. But also definitely I

541
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<v Speaker 2>do not have that issue. So on there, I sometimes

542
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<v Speaker 2>often tea off and occasionally I expand on and preview

543
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<v Speaker 2>some of those issues. On here, we're going to go

544
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit away from coaching right now and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the World Cup and different performances in it over

546
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<v Speaker 2>the years, and why the English system is an absolute joke.

547
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if I asked one hundred rugby league fans

548
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<v Speaker 2>when the next World Cup starts and how many teams

549
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>are in it? Who could tell me? If I asked

550
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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred people in Brisbane, Sydney, maybe even Saint

551
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Helens and Wigan and Hull the tournament. The whole thing

552
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<v Speaker 2>about a tournament, a World Cup is it should be

553
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<v Speaker 2>the absolute highlight of the game. International rugby league should

554
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<v Speaker 2>be the pinnacle. But instead it feels like some kind

555
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<v Speaker 2>of afterthought, doesn't it sitting in the shadow of the

556
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<v Speaker 2>NRL and state of origin and the Grand Final in

557
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<v Speaker 2>the UK. And I think coaches can be guilty of

558
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 2>that too. A club level, any club representative football should

559
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>be absolute pinnacle. If your players get picked, you should

560
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 2>be encouraging them to go. Because I'm doing this Rugby

561
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 2>League history podcast and I need to ask the right questions.

562
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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing a lot of research on the history

563
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of the Rugby League World Cup and I found myself

564
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<v Speaker 2>going down a rabbit hole that I actually really enjoyed.

565
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<v Speaker 2>And one of the first things is a surprise about

566
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<v Speaker 2>where it all began. Most people assume England or Australia

567
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>came up with the idea and hosted the first one

568
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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty four. Wrong. It was actually born in

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<v Speaker 2>France and it was a French idea. Now again, if

570
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<v Speaker 2>you are interested in things like this, this is going

571
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<v Speaker 2>to blow your mind away. France had in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four were only nine years off the Germans being there

573
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<v Speaker 2>and World War two, right, and when Germany took over France.

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<v Speaker 2>In the southern part of France, there was an old

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<v Speaker 2>French general who was sympathetic to the Nazi creed and

576
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<v Speaker 2>ran a Vichy government as it was called in the

577
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<v Speaker 2>southern area of France on behalf of the Nazis. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a French government but with Nazi sympathies.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened then, and I want you to imagine this

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<v Speaker 2>happening now in Brisbane, Sydney, anywhere well, Queensland, New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales and anywhere along that sixty two corridor in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that the Prime Minister or whoever the King just

583
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<v Speaker 2>says one day every rugby league club and resource now

584
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<v Speaker 2>belongs to rugby Union when rugby league is outlawed, including grounds,

585
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 2>money in your bank, equipment facilities. That's what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>France under the Vichy government, and there was worries about

587
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>professionalism and the approach to professionalism, and it was seen

588
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<v Speaker 2>to be against the spirit of sporting endeavor. So amateur

589
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and professional had a bit of a collision. And I

590
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<v Speaker 2>always think that amateur and professional thing is really interesting

591
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<v Speaker 2>in Australia because there's a lot of A grade footballers

592
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 2>around Australia who get paid an absolute fortune for what

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<v Speaker 2>they do, which is sometimes trained twice a week and

594
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 2>then play sometimes at the weekend. And some of them

595
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>don't do it very well because they don't look after

596
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>their bodies fantastically, yet they don't get held to professional

597
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 2>standards out of all hardship. In France from that time,

598
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<v Speaker 2>the vision to create a global competition, suppressed any negatives

599
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>about rugby league being suppressed, and the French obviously wanted

600
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<v Speaker 2>to generate some money for their sport IOUs need a

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<v Speaker 2>swig of my water, Thank you Global League Network. So

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<v Speaker 2>the first World Cup was played nineteen fifty four, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, nine years after the end of well, eight

604
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<v Speaker 2>years after the end of World War two, nine years

605
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<v Speaker 2>after the Germans were still there, I suppose, and it

606
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<v Speaker 2>must have been exciting at the time. Australia, Great Britain,

607
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 2>France and New Zealand all traveled. Sorry, France didn't have

608
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<v Speaker 2>to travel, but Australian, Great Britain and New Zealand traveled

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<v Speaker 2>to France. Now the other thing is guess who the

610
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<v Speaker 2>fifth team were. But they pulled out a couple of

611
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<v Speaker 2>weeks before the tournament, a combination of their own thoughts

612
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<v Speaker 2>but also other group's thoughts about their ability to hold

613
00:44:53.519 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 2>it down in the tournament. It was the USA and

614
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't play in the World Cup until I was

615
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 2>on the coaching staff in twenty thirteen. Unbelievable, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was the first World Cup in nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not going to take you through the whole

618
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<v Speaker 2>history of the World Cup. Now that's not what this

619
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<v Speaker 2>podcast is about, but I we'll tell you this. The

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup trophy that a winning team will lift in

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<v Speaker 2>November that was stolen for two years or disappeared, sorry,

622
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<v Speaker 2>for two decades. Nobody knew where it was and during

623
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<v Speaker 2>that time, different trophies were used for the tournament. Then

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<v Speaker 2>one day the trophy was rediscovered almost by accident, twenty

625
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<v Speaker 2>years after it was missing. How many sporting trophies have

626
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a mystery like that attached to them and it just

627
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<v Speaker 2>adds another chapter to rugby league rich history. And if

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<v Speaker 2>we'll look at the World Cup, some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is some of the games, there's so much history in it.

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<v Speaker 2>One World Cup final in nineteen seventy was so bad

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<v Speaker 2>in England that was there was calls to ban the

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<v Speaker 2>game and ban it from TV. It was so physical

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<v Speaker 2>and not in a fair way or a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>The World Cup itself, though, probably hasn't helped people's interest

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Obviously Australia have dominated so many competitions, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's been so many different tournament formats, different numbers of

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<v Speaker 2>competing nations, different qualification systems. Sometimes quarterfinals, sometimes only semifinals.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes three groups, four groups, sometimes super pool. Sometimes one

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<v Speaker 2>team can qualify from a pool, other times three, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And here's where I think we need to

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<v Speaker 2>get excited, though. I think as a sport it gives

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<v Speaker 2>us international rugby league or something we don't always get

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<v Speaker 2>in club football. You get different coaching philosophies or approaches.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to coach rep players that much, or

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have time to coach players that much. You

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<v Speaker 2>get different defense, different attacking, different ways of solving what

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<v Speaker 2>essentially are the same football problems, aren't they. You watch Australia, England,

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga in particular, they will be heavily

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<v Speaker 2>influenced by the rugby league world I suppose, and the

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<v Speaker 2>things that happen in our ecosystem. But teams like Fiji, France, Papua,

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<v Speaker 2>New Guinea, etc. They have slightly different takes on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every nation brings something slightly different, and as coaches in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's gold. As students of the game, that's

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<v Speaker 2>gold for us. And it could be just one tactical idea,

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<v Speaker 2>one kick press system, one defensive adjustment on set play,

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<v Speaker 2>or an approach to the game, maybe a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>of a free approach and relaxed approach that will give

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<v Speaker 2>coaches some inspiration. International rugby league, just like origin, gives

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<v Speaker 2>players opportunities to represent their heritage, their family, their country

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<v Speaker 2>in the case of international rugby league, their state in

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<v Speaker 2>the case of origin. And you can see it in

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<v Speaker 2>emotion and pride and intensity that these people bring to

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<v Speaker 2>these occasions. So I'd encourage everybody listening to this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to embrace it. Watch everybody, not just Australia, not just England,

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<v Speaker 2>not just New Zealand. Watch how the different nations attack,

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<v Speaker 2>how they defend yardage, how they use the ball. The

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<v Speaker 2>coaching details or the playing details often get unnoticed, the

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<v Speaker 2>things we take for granted when we watch a game

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<v Speaker 2>for rugby league or coach rugby league. It's very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to coach players who don't do those things week in

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<v Speaker 2>week out. And together, let's help giving international rugby league

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<v Speaker 2>the quedos it deserves. Now that brings me to the

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<v Speaker 2>state of the country I was born and raised in.

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<v Speaker 2>From a rugby league point of view, Great Britain or

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<v Speaker 2>England have not beaten Australia in a test match, so

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<v Speaker 2>in a game of rugby league since the fourth of

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<v Speaker 2>November two thousand and six. So when the World Cup

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<v Speaker 2>is on, that will be twenty years. Let that sink him.

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<v Speaker 2>The game in Britain reached a real low point in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two after the Australian Kangaroos got known as

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<v Speaker 2>the Invincibles by coming through Britain and France and not

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<v Speaker 2>losing a game. The Rugby Football League at the time

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just shrug their shoulders and move on. They commissioned inquiries,

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<v Speaker 2>analyzed Australia and why they'd surged ahead, studied coaching methods

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<v Speaker 2>and junior development methods, and desperately searched for answers. So

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty two, they'd last beaten Australia in a

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<v Speaker 2>game four years earlier, not twenty years earlier. Four years earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd last won a World Cup only ten years earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy two, and they'd last won an Ashy

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<v Speaker 2>Series only twelve years earlier, in nineteen seventy And there

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<v Speaker 2>was concern then, But where's the concern now? Two decades

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<v Speaker 2>without beating Australia in a game, fifty four years since

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<v Speaker 2>they've won a World Cup and therefore managed to beat

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<v Speaker 2>Australia on more than one occasion in a given year,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six years since they've beaten Australia in a three

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<v Speaker 2>Tests series, or half a century. They're not just disappointing numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>they're alarming half a century. The only things that change

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<v Speaker 2>are the odd coaching appointment, the odd review and other

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<v Speaker 2>strategic document But what's actually changed from the grassroots right

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<v Speaker 2>down to or right through to the elite pathways. Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>criticism is directed Usustralia or New Zealand for not doing

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<v Speaker 2>enough to grow the game, it's worth noting that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just Australia or New Zealand who should grow the

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<v Speaker 2>international game. England has one of the richest rugby league

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<v Speaker 2>histories in the world, with passionate supporters, historic clubs and

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<v Speaker 2>volunteers will never leave the game. Yet somewhere along the

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<v Speaker 2>line with allowed Ireland, Wales and Scotland to wither on

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<v Speaker 2>the vine European Rugby League. And remember I was the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach of Poland and the lack of support was alarming.

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<v Speaker 2>The game is just drifting off and the clubs are

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<v Speaker 2>leaving it behind. And it's not the player's fault. This

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<v Speaker 2>a system's issue, it's a club's issue. It's a leadership issue,

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<v Speaker 2>an administrative issue. International rugby league desperately needs a strong

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<v Speaker 2>England or else it's the Southern Hemisphere World Cup. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you all agree, agree with me that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>better tournament if England are doing well, or it's a

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<v Speaker 2>better ashes series if England are winning a game or

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<v Speaker 2>getting close rather than falling over. When Australia brings in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases their third and fourth Childish players for a

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<v Speaker 2>three match series. The game doesn't need another slogan. It

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<v Speaker 2>needs root and branch perform in the UK because twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years without beating Australia shouldn't be accepted as normal, and

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<v Speaker 2>half a century of not beating Australia or winning a

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup, it's absolutely disgusting and it's I'm ashamed, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I understand sometimes why people comment on

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<v Speaker 2>me posts and go, what does this pomolys because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't deserve that respect naturally, because oh, you could argue

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<v Speaker 2>we don't deserve it because have we earned it? And

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is definitely not. I hope you enjoyed that podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you enjoyed the fact it was out

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<v Speaker 2>on time this week. So I did record it a

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<v Speaker 2>bit earlier, got ahead of myself and got myself organized.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care. I love your work. Name Name