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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Typical
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2: My guests today We're gonna be talking about what are
Speaker 2: nfscy attachments, how might spiritual interference affect a person, and
Speaker 2: what can people do to strengthen their discernment and energetic boundaries.
Speaker 2: I have with me psychic healer, teacher and Consciousness of
Speaker 2: Arts guide Laura van Tyne. She joins us for an
Speaker 2: in depth conversation about energy attachment, spiritual warfare, psychic defense,
Speaker 2: false light, and spiritual sovereignty. Laura's journey into this work
Speaker 2: began after what she describes as paranormal forces invading her
Speaker 2: family home. She says those frightening experiences led to approximately
Speaker 2: ten years of intensive study as she searched for ways
Speaker 2: to understand what was happening to her help her family.
Speaker 2: Her path ultimately took her form working as a school teacher,
Speaker 2: insisting people who believe they're experiencing spiritual entities or interference.
Speaker 2: Laura holds a master's degree in education and a bachelor's
Speaker 2: in education, with academic study in Spanish and mathematics. Her
Speaker 2: listed training and areas of practice include past life progression, biogeometry,
Speaker 2: remote vieing, NSC and implant removal, home and space clearing,
Speaker 2: and soul retrieval. She's also the author of the book
Speaker 2: Battle with the Dark Side, My Journey from Teacher to Exorcists,
Speaker 2: and you can check that all out at her website
Speaker 2: Laura Vantyne dot com. And I'm at her stage now, Laura,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for coming on for the first time.
Speaker 3: How arey?
Speaker 4: Hey, Thank you so much. Yeah, we've been swimming around
Speaker 4: in the same circles, but we've never really connected directly,
Speaker 4: So thank you for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I know, you were just on Chris Matthews
Speaker 2: show from Forbidden Alle News. I consider him a good friend,
Speaker 2: like you know, we we have we get a lot
Speaker 2: of similar guests and stuff like that. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: then a couple of my friends like reached out to
Speaker 2: me and they asked me if I had you on
Speaker 2: my show and I was like, no, I haven't had
Speaker 2: her yet. And they get there, they were like, you
Speaker 2: got to get her on your show. Like they were
Speaker 2: like adamant about it, like you.
Speaker 4: Know, okay, well, thank you. I don't know who they are,
Speaker 4: but thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, so apparently your work is like you know, it's
Speaker 2: reaching people because like people are really and it said
Speaker 2: that you know what's going on with like this ncy
Speaker 2: attachment and spiritual interference and stuff, which is like it's
Speaker 2: been a battle for for the past two three years.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's on and off.
Speaker 2: Like some days I feel good, some days it feels
Speaker 2: like an energetic attachment on my head or like on
Speaker 2: my eye or like, you know, it's weird.
Speaker 3: You know, it's really interesting, bizarre.
Speaker 4: It's ramping up this spiritual war we've been and is
Speaker 4: not new, It's been going on for millennias, right, But
Speaker 4: I feel like there's so much ascension, so much knowledge,
Speaker 4: so much conscience is raising on this planet that literally,
Speaker 4: these little parasitic entities are just having toddler temper tantrums.
Speaker 4: And if you've ever been at a grocery store when
Speaker 4: a random toddler has a temper tantrum, everybody knows about it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it doesn't make it easier, But I think that
Speaker 4: this is a big part of what we're all experiencing.
Speaker 4: These interferences have been growing over the past several years,
Speaker 4: actually exponentially.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, tell us a little bit about I
Speaker 2: know I read your bio at the beginning.
Speaker 3: But tell us a little bit about your story.
Speaker 2: What got you into this, So you were in a
Speaker 2: haunted house for like a big large part of your
Speaker 2: life or every ten years.
Speaker 4: The house didn't start out haunted, that's the weird thing.
Speaker 4: So it didn't start out haunted. What ended up happening
Speaker 4: is that one of my daughters started seeing incensing things,
Speaker 4: and I, as a child, could see and sense things
Speaker 4: as well. But my parents were like, yeah, don't be weird,
Speaker 4: and I just sort of like brushed it off, and
Speaker 4: it just kind of, i'm gonna say it went away.
Speaker 4: For the most part. I just didn't pay it any attention, right,
Speaker 4: those psychic impressions and things like that. And then when
Speaker 4: this started happening, the interferences weren't you know, corns and
Speaker 4: rainbows and fluffy kittens and puppy dogs. Okay, this was
Speaker 4: like wild. And you know, we had a three headed
Speaker 4: crocodile roaming around our house. I'm like, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: What are you serious?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, it was like what the heck?
Speaker 3: And we headed crocodile.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a reptilian shape shifter. I know that now,
Speaker 4: but twenty years ago we didn't know what this stuff was.
Speaker 4: The Internet wasn't what it is. Yeah, all of these things.
Speaker 4: So with this three headed crocodile that would run around
Speaker 4: the house, and in the beginning I couldn't really see
Speaker 4: or I could sense it but not fully see it.
Speaker 4: But I would always know that we had a dog,
Speaker 4: two cats, and a house rabbit, and they would know
Speaker 4: when it was around. Those are like my canaries and
Speaker 4: the coal mine. I'm forever grateful to them, but I'm
Speaker 4: sorry that they had to have those experiences. And so
Speaker 4: we had ghosts, we had the hat man, we had
Speaker 4: all kinds of things, all at the same time, all simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Wow, that makes like what I've been doing with like
Speaker 2: sound like puny, Like I mean, like what I've been
Speaker 2: doing with is like like astral parasites.
Speaker 3: It feels like what it feels like. I think I
Speaker 3: told you this.
Speaker 2: It feels like when I'm in when I lay in
Speaker 2: the bed, it feels like there's like an astral snake
Speaker 2: underneath me, like like bump start coming up off the bed,
Speaker 2: and then it feels like it then dissipates in the
Speaker 2: many astral parasites and they are like lush feeding and
Speaker 2: like you know, someone said, well, why don't you just
Speaker 2: throw your better way?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think it's that simple.
Speaker 4: Not that simple. Got it would be so great, that's
Speaker 4: all we had to do, right, It's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was telling someone the other day, I
Speaker 2: was like, it's not like what you think. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's not like you know, like I've tried like so
Speaker 2: many people and everybody that has tried to help me,
Speaker 2: I would highly recommend them to other people as well.
Speaker 2: I just think that I'm dealing with something that's like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you know. Maybe I was
Speaker 2: just say it's real quick. My my ongoing theory is
Speaker 2: that like someone keeps sending me black magic over and
Speaker 2: over again, you know, that's kind of what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely it could be, and it can be many
Speaker 4: different things. This stuff happens from many different angles. For example,
Speaker 4: is somebody sending you voodoo, black magic, cursus hexas something
Speaker 4: like this? Is there are you astro traveling at night
Speaker 4: and getting hijacked at night? Is the home that you're
Speaker 4: in does it have like energetic weak spots where they
Speaker 4: can travel into you based on the work you're doing
Speaker 4: with you know, the paranormal, you're going to have a
Speaker 4: little bit of a brighter light about you. I mean
Speaker 4: that's just kind of how it works, right, Yeah, like
Speaker 4: sky is interesting, is there something that we're doing in
Speaker 4: our life or lifestyle that we don't know that it's
Speaker 4: kind of opening a doorway And it's not a criticism.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest openings that we can have, honestly,
Speaker 4: and it's not going to make me popular. Violent video
Speaker 4: games people who tend to play violent video games quite
Speaker 4: a bit will create weaknesses throughout that. That old Batman
Speaker 4: movie I think was who died? Was that Heath Ledger
Speaker 4: or somebody I don't really remember.
Speaker 3: It was years ago.
Speaker 4: It was here to go, Well, there was something going
Speaker 4: on energetically there. And let's say there's something energetically going
Speaker 4: on in the on the movie set, there's it's Hollywood too, right,
Speaker 4: and things are happening. But what happens now when I
Speaker 4: take that live stream or back then it was a
Speaker 4: VCR or whatever, right, alcohol is another go to one
Speaker 4: joant absolutely, and it enters our field right was we're
Speaker 4: watching it. Sometimes horror movies can do this, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean every horror movie, every violent video game is
Speaker 4: going to do this. It means that the dark side
Speaker 4: is looking for some type of crack in our foundation.
Speaker 4: And you know, Joanna Childs mentions alcohol. Absolutely, they call
Speaker 4: it spirit for a reason. That's kind of cliche, but
Speaker 4: it's true.
Speaker 2: Marijuana be a gateway, like because like I do smoke
Speaker 2: marijuana at night, Like it.
Speaker 4: Can be a gateway, not always. So here's the issue
Speaker 4: with marijuana is that before it was regulated, there's like
Speaker 4: basically one variety of marijuana. Now that it's regulated, all
Speaker 4: of these producers and manufacturers are adding their own stuff
Speaker 4: to it, and we don't really know what we're getting.
Speaker 4: Does that make.
Speaker 2: Sense A good point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, point yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And so there's many different things. And so what we
Speaker 4: want to do is kind of like clean house, raise
Speaker 4: our base vibration as best as we can, and there's
Speaker 4: many ways to do it. The idea of really creating
Speaker 4: a healthy soul, because this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: These things pick at us, right, and we want to
Speaker 4: create a healthy soul. So when we have a higher
Speaker 4: vibrational frequency, when we cost them so much energy, which
Speaker 4: is a form of currency, it's like it's like they're
Speaker 4: spending money on us, right, and they don't get the
Speaker 4: payback back, then they will start to lose interest in
Speaker 4: us because they're losing. Another part of it is some
Speaker 4: people are bigger targets than other people. Some people have
Speaker 4: soul mission, soul purposes, et cetera. Some people are bigger targets.
Speaker 4: I know, I've got a target on my back that's
Speaker 4: probably bigger than my house, Okay, but I respect that.
Speaker 4: So there's many themes and variations, is where I'm going
Speaker 4: with this. We've got, you know, somebody's talking about NLP
Speaker 4: kind of a concept that neu linguistic programming that we're
Speaker 4: all indoctrinated with, right absolutely, And so when we talk
Speaker 4: about the programming, and this is kind of an offshoot
Speaker 4: because I don't think this relates to you. Maybe it does,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it relates to so many others.
Speaker 4: Is this programming that we get and it could be
Speaker 4: childhood programming don't trust your intuition or these you know
Speaker 4: you know that. Do you remember were you around when
Speaker 4: they had the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends or something
Speaker 4: like it was a cartoon.
Speaker 3: Was that in the eighties or nineties?
Speaker 4: I'm an I think it might have been in the nineties,
Speaker 4: And so basically it's all of these thought forms that
Speaker 4: because somebody had mentioned I wrote it down that thought
Speaker 4: forms are beings that we create. We can create these
Speaker 4: things too, and children are really good at it. Teenagers
Speaker 4: are really good at whipping around this energy, let's face it.
Speaker 4: So anyways, there's a lot of theme and variation, and
Speaker 4: I think what we could do is just kind of
Speaker 4: like dissect it a little bit and give people solutions
Speaker 4: so they can kind of help themselves or decide if
Speaker 4: they need somebody to assist them.
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, and then like when you assist someone, like
Speaker 2: what do you usually do? Is it like a combination
Speaker 2: of like energy work or like what you know or
Speaker 2: like do you I guess the difference, right, because you
Speaker 2: do soul retrieval, you do house clearings, right, So I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 3: Just I guess it depends on what the person needs, right.
Speaker 4: It does. But I always go to or when I say,
Speaker 4: I my spiritual team, and I always go to what
Speaker 4: the person needs. That's the priority. It's not what I
Speaker 4: think they need, it's what they need. So what happens.
Speaker 4: And I really like to work this way, and I
Speaker 4: learned these skills and techniques to work in this manner
Speaker 4: because those those like ten cells years of pure hell.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. I've always
Speaker 4: you know, I'm hiring every psychic, psychic, frog, shaman, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah, you know, everything moving mountains to
Speaker 4: solve my family's problem. And most of the time, ninety
Speaker 4: nine point nine percent of the time, people are telling
Speaker 4: me what they think they know.
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know.
Speaker 4: In fact, this is kind of the funniest story is
Speaker 4: that we had this ghost child in her house named Annabelle,
Speaker 4: not related to the horror Flic, and it was before
Speaker 4: the Horror Flic, who came to live with us. She
Speaker 4: was in resonance with one of my daughters of the
Speaker 4: same age, and so she comes to live with us.
Speaker 4: And then I realized one day she doesn't realize she's dead.
Speaker 4: She's about eight years old, no wo and because she's
Speaker 4: constantly looking for her mommy, and I don't know what
Speaker 4: to do for her, and I don't know what to
Speaker 4: do for my family either at that point, and finally
Speaker 4: I just kind of asked her, I said, do you
Speaker 4: know that you died? Then the realization of this ghost
Speaker 4: consciousness came to fruition, and she became so angry and
Speaker 4: she started harming our little girl, myself. It was just awful, awful, awful.
Speaker 4: And so where I'm going at with this is that
Speaker 4: children see and sense things, and we need to respect
Speaker 4: that and we need to be able to do something
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: So what do I do?
Speaker 4: Because I had all of these people telling me these things,
Speaker 4: I didn't know what was true or not true. So
Speaker 4: when I finally started figuring it out, I realized, I
Speaker 4: want to do something different. Rob Let's say you and
Speaker 4: I are working you hire. Let's say you and I
Speaker 4: are going to work on clearing whatever's with you. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to tell you what it is. You and
Speaker 4: I are going to do a very specific guided meditation
Speaker 4: that I developed, and you're going to see for yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you questions, and We're going to
Speaker 4: discover it together, remove it off the earthplane. That's key
Speaker 4: because when you can see and sense it, and see
Speaker 4: and sense the origination point and what's happening, and we
Speaker 4: remove it together, your subconscious self is satisfied that, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm safe now, and it makes all the difference in
Speaker 4: the world. And so we work together. And it could
Speaker 4: be reptilians, it could be grays, it could be you
Speaker 4: know happ mean, it could be it could be anything.
Speaker 4: It could be black magicians, it could be a voodoo curse,
Speaker 4: it could be a curse from a you know, living person,
Speaker 4: whatever it is, and we have to understand. And I'm
Speaker 4: kind of like going all over the places. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: slow down a minute. So working together, we have to
Speaker 4: understand that we're dealing with a non tangible world outside
Speaker 4: of our three D world. And then when we work together,
Speaker 4: you and I get two data points versus me just
Speaker 4: telling you what I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you say two data points you mean like
Speaker 2: like like just like areas of reference about like what's
Speaker 2: going on with the situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And I don't want to kind of I
Speaker 4: don't want to go into the process publicly because you
Speaker 4: can have a very different experience than you know, somebody else,
Speaker 4: and I don't want that somebody else to say, oh,
Speaker 4: this is what I should expect because everybody is so unique.
Speaker 4: No two people have the same entities on them. Let
Speaker 4: me tell you that would be easy.
Speaker 3: Well, that's I mean, it's crazy. It seems like the
Speaker 3: veil standing.
Speaker 2: It seems like like more people are having like these
Speaker 2: these incursions, like with all kinds of weird stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think it's a blend. I think we're talking about
Speaker 4: it now, so now I know I'm not going crazy.
Speaker 4: But there's something else happening. I think that's big. I
Speaker 4: was just talking, texting or messaging with the woman who's
Speaker 4: sixty seven years old, and she says, for years I
Speaker 4: thought it was just me and my family told me
Speaker 4: I was crazy blah blah blah blah. And now I
Speaker 4: know that's not true. Wow, And we're more aware of it.
Speaker 4: We're talking about it, and we're learning to say no more. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just done. And that's pivotal. One of the things they
Speaker 4: do want to bring up to everybody out here listening
Speaker 4: is if you're working with a practitioner to seek this
Speaker 4: type of help in this relief, ask them how do
Speaker 4: they remove the entities? If they say, bind them, bury them,
Speaker 4: or cast them away, those are problems. If I bind something,
Speaker 4: it can break free. If I bury something, I'm harming
Speaker 4: the earth, even if it's energetic and it can break free.
Speaker 4: And if I cast something away, what's to say it's
Speaker 4: not going to come back at me even harder, faster,
Speaker 4: and more furious or worse. It goes to your neighbor,
Speaker 4: your friend, your spouse, because if you cast it away,
Speaker 4: what happens to it?
Speaker 2: It probably just stays in your house and goes to
Speaker 2: much You can go to your neighbor's house.
Speaker 3: I mean, it can't go anywhere, right, you're just casting
Speaker 3: it away, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: We want to make sure that these entities return to
Speaker 4: God's source energy. When they left the light of God,
Speaker 4: and I use these terms almost like a generic bucket.
Speaker 4: When the Luciopheric forces left the light of God, when
Speaker 4: the Reptilians, when the grays, when the fallen angels, when
Speaker 4: they left the light of God, God's source, energy, creator,
Speaker 4: whatever word we want, they left behind an energy source.
Speaker 4: And they're like, oh shit, we don't have an energy source.
Speaker 4: Now what are we going to do? And they start
Speaker 4: looking at planets like ours. We're not the first planet
Speaker 4: to deal with this. We're starting to look at planets
Speaker 4: like ours and say, wait a minute, I can use
Speaker 4: these humans as a step down transformer for as far
Speaker 4: as energy is concerned, and start siphoning energy loosh off
Speaker 4: of them. And they do it in many different ways,
Speaker 4: as we know, through emotions, through tragedy, traumas, all the things.
Speaker 4: But it's up to us to say no more and
Speaker 4: learn how to create a healthy soul. And that's what
Speaker 4: this is all about. We talk about our health all
Speaker 4: the time, our physical health, our mental health, our emotional health,
Speaker 4: our financial health. Right, but when do we start talking
Speaker 4: about our soul's health. When we can start having these conversations,
Speaker 4: it strengthens us so fast and so quickly. It's like
Speaker 4: we're catapulted my soul health, the soul. What is the soul?
Speaker 4: First of all, the soul is the energy that animates
Speaker 4: these bodies. No, we die, we leave this body. This
Speaker 4: body is nothing more than a rental unit, really right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I want my deposit back on my rental unit.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely right?
Speaker 4: So I want to make sure that I have a
Speaker 4: healthy soul. And there's many ways we can look at this.
Speaker 4: Am I compromising myself? Am? So let's say, for example,
Speaker 4: in the workplace, am I screwing somebody over so I
Speaker 4: can get ahead? That's a form of compromising myself? Right,
Speaker 4: am I?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Being greedy when it comes to like the will or whatever,
Speaker 4: an estate or something like that. There's all the landlord
Speaker 4: needs to do an upgrade on my property. That's great,
Speaker 4: I've never heard that one. That is awesome.
Speaker 2: Well, I.
Speaker 4: Rachel Kyle says, my landlord needs to do an upgrade
Speaker 4: on the property, meaning the body. That's funny. Thank you
Speaker 4: for that laugh. By the way, I might have to
Speaker 4: quote you on that, rachelle. So anyways, this healthy soul concept,
Speaker 4: what can I do to create a healthy soul? What
Speaker 4: am I energetically aligned with? Look at friends and family,
Speaker 4: and I'm not talking about estrangements, but I'm look at
Speaker 4: friends and family. Do you have commonalities or themes with them?
Speaker 4: Are you learning to overcome, for example, a childhood trauma.
Speaker 4: Are you learning to change the course of your life
Speaker 4: for some reason for the better? All of this stuff
Speaker 4: is so important, And there's many ways to skin the
Speaker 4: cat basically, which is a terrible expression, but there's many
Speaker 4: ways to attain a healthy soul. But it's a lot
Speaker 4: of it is with intention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Like wait, wait, wait, So our healthy our soul all
Speaker 4: come in here with maybe lessons and experiences. Maybe our
Speaker 4: free will is mitigated. A lot of people's free will
Speaker 4: is mitigated quite a bit. To say that we have
Speaker 4: soul sovereignty, I question that because of the way the
Speaker 4: dark side is puppeting us, okay, but it's still up
Speaker 4: to us to break free. Period. And for some people
Speaker 4: they come into this earthplane, they reincarnate here with a
Speaker 4: cute little Kate spade bag of garbage, and other people
Speaker 4: come in with freight trains of garbage, right, and so
Speaker 4: still up to us to clear it. That's kind of
Speaker 4: where it. It may not be fair, but it is
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So everybody has their own responsibility to like yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, and you guys, if you have a question
Speaker 2: for Laura, put it in the chat and that thank
Speaker 2: you guys for for for sharing the links. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to I think what would be another good question, like
Speaker 2: what all kinds of entities have you encountered throughout your time?
Speaker 4: Oh? A lot of them, even stuff that I don't
Speaker 4: even know what They are the most common and they
Speaker 4: kind of roll through themes like I'll be working with,
Speaker 4: you know, clients individually, but they seem to be like themes.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a lot of reptilians are coming through. For example,
Speaker 4: Reptilians and grays and arcans are kind of like the
Speaker 4: biggest ones, the most commonly known ones. Arkans are sort
Speaker 4: of relatively new The Reptilians are the ones that basically
Speaker 4: created communism. They started World War one and two. They
Speaker 4: also start a lot of the wars on this planet.
Speaker 4: Why do we need to be fighting so much? We
Speaker 4: don't they are puppeting. They are also responsible and work
Speaker 4: directly with the Cabal for the most part. There's other
Speaker 4: entities that do too. The Grays are the ones who
Speaker 4: do a lot of abductions and experiments upon us. They
Speaker 4: kind of bread themselves out of the ability to reproduce,
Speaker 4: so now they're using other sources of DNA. The Grays
Speaker 4: are also brokers in all of this, meaning they yeah,
Speaker 4: so they're kind of brokers. So if they are abducting people,
Speaker 4: they may take those souls or those consciousnesses of people
Speaker 4: and sell them to the highest bidder. Maybe it's the Ennachy,
Speaker 4: maybe it's the Reptilians. Maybe it's this or the whatever
Speaker 4: it is. And it becomes really complicated a lot of
Speaker 4: the work that I do. Let's say you and I
Speaker 4: are working and we see this reptilian I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's an egg nest, maybe it's a reptilian satellite
Speaker 4: or ship or something, and we remove it and there's
Speaker 4: a I'm going to say, I but it's my spiritual team,
Speaker 4: and I want to get into the concept of vetting.
Speaker 4: I'm going to I never trust my team is who
Speaker 4: they say they are for a reason. We'll go into
Speaker 4: that in a minute. So we're removing them from this
Speaker 4: person's energy field, and I want to go back through time,
Speaker 4: space and dimension with this group to remove them all
Speaker 4: out as they echo out and pull them in. Once
Speaker 4: we do that, they my team's guides take them, they're
Speaker 4: more than guides back into the Creator God source energy.
Speaker 4: So they are now physically off the planet. They cannot
Speaker 4: come back and harm this planet again. And they reside
Speaker 4: in that lower astral plane. All of these beings do
Speaker 4: in the lower astral print plane they reside in. They
Speaker 4: can even create pocket mentions and there's many levels to this.
Speaker 4: Getting them out of here means that they're gone. They
Speaker 4: can't return. This is a big deal. We're seeing a
Speaker 4: lot of things starting to crumble and fall, and we're
Speaker 4: seeing a lot of things being exposed now, and that's
Speaker 4: a big deal. So yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot
Speaker 4: of different beings and entities. I've seen them physically, I've
Speaker 4: seen them on cameras. I've you know, see them when
Speaker 4: I'm working with clients.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, like I've good about my thing. Like I've
Speaker 2: never even seen anything like. I mean, like, actually, what
Speaker 2: was weird was like last night I went out for
Speaker 2: a smoke, like really late, and I when I looked
Speaker 2: to my right, I saw like a black mist like
Speaker 2: it like it looked like a spirit like and it
Speaker 2: looked like it was going towards my window. Because like
Speaker 2: when I go outside, like I can look to the
Speaker 2: right and like you know, I can look at the
Speaker 2: window or whatever, you know. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting, you know. But like other than that, I've
Speaker 2: never seen a demon.
Speaker 3: It goes anything. I've just felt like an energetic attachment,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're bringing up a really good point. That actually
Speaker 4: is a form of seeing because you know something is there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just we're not seeing it like you and I
Speaker 4: are seeing each other necessarily, right, sensing is seeing a
Speaker 4: lot of times we see this dark little flit out
Speaker 4: of the corner of our eye that you describe. That
Speaker 4: is very common. Also, do Draco's get entity attachments to
Speaker 4: Yeah me, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, that's a really a
Speaker 4: good question. I don't think so, But I've never even
Speaker 4: thought about that before. That's a really good question. I'm
Speaker 4: going to be actually thinking about that. I don't think
Speaker 4: so though.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's many ways to see and sense things as
Speaker 4: we go along, and learning to sense means that we're
Speaker 4: connecting to our intuition and our higher self, and our
Speaker 4: higher self is our connection to this God point source energies.
Speaker 4: When we learn to connect there, we we actually start
Speaker 4: to use this as a compass. Right we're navigating does
Speaker 4: something feel right or not right? And to really simplify this,
Speaker 4: there's three forms of energy, positive, negative, and neutral. That's it.
Speaker 4: Does it feel right? If so, why?
Speaker 3: If not?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: Ask yourself the why. That's one of the biggest things
Speaker 4: we can do to help with soul health. Asking the why.
Speaker 3: This is fascinating, Like, uh, let me see here.
Speaker 2: Some some guy says he's using prayers from Christopher Macklin
Speaker 2: to protect me.
Speaker 3: I was just kind of reading through the comments. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you believe? Are you a big believe in prayer
Speaker 3: or do you do you? What do you did you
Speaker 3: feel about that?
Speaker 4: Prayer and meditation are important. It centers us it growns up.
Speaker 4: But prayer without action is wishing and hoping. So if
Speaker 4: we're praying for something, we need to follow it with
Speaker 4: a three D action. If I'm praying that I get
Speaker 4: a million dollars by December, I need to have an
Speaker 4: action behind it. Otherwise it's just wishing and hoping, right Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And you know, willow Roots is asking a really good question.
Speaker 4: Can't these entities and beings evolve or get a chance
Speaker 4: to yes? But I'm going to say net while they're
Speaker 4: on the earth plane, it.
Speaker 2: Seems you know what I always say to people, It
Speaker 2: seems like DNA is or you know, it seems like
Speaker 2: energy is a currency, and these any being it seems
Speaker 2: like they want energy. I was telling you, I also
Speaker 2: said this, I said, when someone's channeling, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not big on channeling. I'm I have this theory
Speaker 2: that like when someone's channeling, they're inviting an entity in them,
Speaker 2: And like it seems like just from my experience of
Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with, it seems like entities always want energy,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like their energy fiends
Speaker 2: are like energy junkies.
Speaker 3: You know, that's.
Speaker 2: Absolutely they want to do is loose feet, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's like it's like they must
Speaker 2: love energy, you know, it's like there, it must be
Speaker 2: a currency or something.
Speaker 4: You know, it absolutely is. And channeling is not the
Speaker 4: ideal way to get information. So when somebody is channeling,
Speaker 4: somebody's at let's say a lot of people like channel
Speaker 4: Saint Germaine or whatever. Okay, Saint Germaine does not need
Speaker 4: to come inside my physical body to give you a message. Yeah,
Speaker 4: doesn't work that way. Are people getting information this way? Yes?
Speaker 4: But the question becomes how where is the information coming from?
Speaker 4: Is it coming from the dark side pretending to be
Speaker 4: the light side? Giving me enough nuggets right to believe
Speaker 4: in this process. I'm going to share a story with
Speaker 4: you that I share kind of often because it has
Speaker 4: a lot of practicality to it. Long story short, I've
Speaker 4: got a client. It was a grandma, mom and a daughter,
Speaker 4: and the daughter is a teenager. Mom is in her forties,
Speaker 4: grandma's in her sixties or seventies or whatever. Grandma dies,
Speaker 4: They live together. Grandma dies, and the granddaughter's super sad
Speaker 4: wants to connect with grandma. The mom and I work
Speaker 4: and we cross over. Grandma we make sure she's crossed over.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 4: But then the girl and this comes back to the
Speaker 4: very first question about thought forms that I forget who
Speaker 4: asked Shelley mentioned the very first thought form. So the
Speaker 4: granddaughter is now she and her girlfriend created a wigi
Speaker 4: board out of a piece of paper, and they're asking
Speaker 4: the Ouiji board questions and they think they have grandma,
Speaker 4: but they invited something in totally different. So what they
Speaker 4: did is they opened a doorway. Okay, oigi boards. This
Speaker 4: is a harmless, you know, child's toy from Hasborough, I
Speaker 4: don't think so. Her mom wouldn't buy her one, so
Speaker 4: she made one. Still works, right, And so anyways, the daughter,
Speaker 4: the granddaughter is saying, Mom, I'm talking to grandma, and
Speaker 4: Grandma says this and this and this, and Grandma Grandma
Speaker 4: is giving this teenage girl like, oh, you're going to
Speaker 4: be married to this person and you're going to do
Speaker 4: this all these grandiose, perfect life things, right, which, of course,
Speaker 4: what teenage girl or whatever doesn't want. So I said, well,
Speaker 4: do you mind if I come over? She happened to
Speaker 4: live close enough to me because everything I usually do
Speaker 4: is on zoom and all over the world, and uh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: So I create a containment field, the spiritual containment field
Speaker 4: in their living room. And I said, I am so
Speaker 4: impressed that your grandma came back to I'd love to
Speaker 4: talk to her. And so I said, invite your grandma
Speaker 4: to come in, and you know, stand right here and
Speaker 4: their mom and mom and daughter on the sofa. I'm
Speaker 4: on another chair. And then she invites grandma in. So
Speaker 4: I start to vet Grandma. Okay, I vet grandma. So
Speaker 4: this is a tool that everybody can use. We always
Speaker 4: want to whenever we're communicating with anything, vet to make
Speaker 4: sure we have the real deal. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: our angel Michael's popular. Let's just say, oh, I'm calling
Speaker 4: an archangel Michael. How do I know that's really him?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really, what I was saying, like, I mean, you know
Speaker 2: what was interesting. I don't want people to get I've
Speaker 2: said this many times. I don't want people to get
Speaker 2: upset with me, like because like someone in the community
Speaker 2: got cancer and like he was a channeler. And I
Speaker 2: put together I was like, well, if you're inviting energies
Speaker 2: in your body, like they might want an energy exchange.
Speaker 2: So if anyies are constantly taking energy from you, that's
Speaker 2: not good for your health.
Speaker 4: You know, they always extract their payment from health and wealth.
Speaker 4: Health looks like cancer. Health looks like suffering. Wealth looks
Speaker 4: like plumbing problems. Wealth looks like I have to buy
Speaker 4: all new appliances again, a job loss, et cetera. So
Speaker 4: they always will distract payment these dark ones. So this
Speaker 4: granddaughter invites grandma in, and I start pouring down this
Speaker 4: very thick and heavy rain of salt all over Grandma.
Speaker 4: It's a visualization technique. Everybody can do it and practice it.
Speaker 4: Then I started pouring frankinsense on this grandma and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden it shifted into a reptilian inside their house.
Speaker 4: Whoa oh yeah. And it was like and mom and
Speaker 4: mom and the granddaughter just go like they literally jump
Speaker 4: back right. The reptilian could not get out of this
Speaker 4: containment field. This is something that I am grateful for.
Speaker 4: And I'm going to say hello to a space cadet Lottie,
Speaker 4: who is also Lauras. Nice to see you over on
Speaker 4: the other side of the pond. So anyways, what happened
Speaker 4: was is she got a big lesson in what wasn't right.
Speaker 4: Had Mom had not called me, this reptilian would have
Speaker 4: taken over that household. It would have in reptilian friends
Speaker 4: in and this girl was homesick for her grandma.
Speaker 2: Her heart is right, Yeah, that's sad, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: like the entity is that cruel that it wants to
Speaker 2: get something, so it it manipulates and turns ship shape
Speaker 2: ships into the grandmother because it knows it can play
Speaker 2: on our emotions. Like, you know, I've heard that happening,
Speaker 2: like and I don't want to go too far off track,
Speaker 2: but I've heard that happening. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: believe in the soul trap or like the you know,
Speaker 2: but like some people think that like when when we
Speaker 2: go when we die and we go to the white Light,
Speaker 2: that it's a trick like and that like they they
Speaker 2: do that there too. They'll they'll they said that they'll
Speaker 2: come as it in the form of your grand as
Speaker 2: your grandmother or your mother telling you that like it's okay,
Speaker 2: come to the light, reincarnate or maybe they're not saying
Speaker 2: anything about reincarnate definitely, but they're definitely saying, like you
Speaker 2: know that everything's safe, and then it convinces you to
Speaker 2: go to the light and then you It's theory is
Speaker 2: that then you basically wake up in a birth canal
Speaker 2: or you know, like you because you're you just been
Speaker 2: reincarnated back and through the matrix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, but then some people like have kind of
Speaker 2: shot down the whole soul trap. I mean, do you
Speaker 2: do you see any I just as like, did you
Speaker 2: see any like anything to that?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, absolutely so in the work that I do
Speaker 4: a lot of his soul reclamation, So the Reptilians, and
Speaker 4: I've seen this so many times, and I've seen it
Speaker 4: with clients also in my YouTube channel which is under
Speaker 4: my name, I take these client sessions and I break
Speaker 4: them down so people can understand how this stuff works.
Speaker 4: So what the Reptilians will do is they will harvest
Speaker 4: these souls that I call it soul napping. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: is why we want to have a healthy soul period.
Speaker 4: So the false light, this false matrix, Yeah, it exists.
Speaker 4: Kidnapping happens in the three D, so why wouldn't it
Speaker 4: happen in other dimensions too? So what they do, and
Speaker 4: they not just human souls we have I've seen animal souls,
Speaker 4: I've seen angelic souls and people and now there's this
Speaker 4: thing about age. We'll talk about that later if we
Speaker 4: get to it. I've seen all kinds of souls being
Speaker 4: soul napped and they put them in what looks like
Speaker 4: these huge it's hard to describe it, like this off
Speaker 4: world silo, this off world metal and they just collect
Speaker 4: these souls and they recycle them. They use them to
Speaker 4: power up their their like their technologies, they use them
Speaker 4: for all kinds of things. When you can free these souls,
Speaker 4: and we've taken these silos and sent them back to
Speaker 4: the higher realms, it changes the trajectory of their soul
Speaker 4: health for in perpetuity. You're taking them out of the trap.
Speaker 4: When that happens, they get their soul sovereignty, they get
Speaker 4: their free will back. I don't even know who these
Speaker 4: people are. It doesn't matter. I don't care who they are.
Speaker 4: They're out of that trap. We're robbing the dark side
Speaker 4: of energy when we do that.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is fascinating. This is I'm really glad we
Speaker 2: did this because this is right. This is really like
Speaker 2: a great conversation. Let me think of one other questions
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 3: M hmm.
Speaker 2: I asked you about the end seas. What about alien abduction?
Speaker 2: Do you deal with people who get abducted a lot
Speaker 2: or I have contact m yeah, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of times with alien abductions. Okay, this Rochelle person is hilarious. Okay,
Speaker 4: I could like have a cup of coffee with you.
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, little girl of my I'm a friend
Speaker 4: of your mom's another dimension, right, so you're so funny,
Speaker 4: thank you. I love a good sense of humor.
Speaker 2: H this is this comment here, like this is coming
Speaker 2: a hey little girl in front of your moms and
Speaker 2: she wanted me to come get you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 4: It's just in a different dimension, right yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyways, I forgot what we were talking about. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Alien contact, alien contacts, alien contacts. Yes, I've had people
Speaker 4: that have had a variety of different types of alien contacts.
Speaker 4: What will all often happen is with alien contact and
Speaker 4: alien abductions, is they mess around with the physical body,
Speaker 4: and when that happens, they have these medical mysteries happening
Speaker 4: to them. They may have missing time. They I've dealt
Speaker 4: a lot with you know, twenty in backs and that
Speaker 4: type of stuff. MK Ultra victims sspers. This is more
Speaker 4: common than we think we would think it is. And
Speaker 4: we have to understand that these things do happen. Bad
Speaker 4: things happen to good people, and so with the help
Speaker 4: of other light beings, we often do the repairs or
Speaker 4: psychic surgery kind of thing to help them. And because
Speaker 4: it's stuff that the medical the medical industry says, well,
Speaker 4: we don't know, we don't know what's going on. We
Speaker 4: don't know why your heart is twice the size is
Speaker 4: what it should be. We don't know why you're actually
Speaker 4: missing an ovary. And so part of this is also
Speaker 4: reclaiming any stolen DNA so they no longer have access
Speaker 4: to that person. Yeah, I just want to get a
Speaker 4: pause because I've been like talking fast and furious here,
Speaker 4: So I just want to give everybody a second to
Speaker 4: like just think for a moment. Yeah, Nope, you're a
Speaker 4: mute rob. I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 3: Hear me now.
Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I have a listen. I've ended a plugging my things.
Speaker 2: I can get my list of questions. But you talk
Speaker 2: about hindering spirits. What's a hindering spirit.
Speaker 4: Hindering spirits are ones where there's no full on possession happening.
Speaker 4: So if I am possessed, there's a spirit inside of
Speaker 4: my body. That's not mine. I'm one of my youtubes.
Speaker 4: I don't remember which one which what the title of
Speaker 4: it is right off hand, but I worked with a
Speaker 4: woman who always had addictive She had an addictive personality.
Speaker 4: It was alcohol, it was drugs, it was men, it
Speaker 4: was women, it was spending, it was this and that,
Speaker 4: and she couldn't understand it, and we started working. Long
Speaker 4: story short, her one of her grandfathers died when he
Speaker 4: was forty before she was born, remained as a ghost.
Speaker 4: He died of an alcohol addiction.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Upon her birth, he entered her physical body, and she
Speaker 4: was always vying to be in front of her body,
Speaker 4: in front of her soul, And so that would be
Speaker 4: a full on possession. What you're dealing with is more
Speaker 4: of hindering spirits where they're pecking at you.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, And then like I was gonna ask you, like,
Speaker 2: is it is it hard to like for you to
Speaker 2: or has it been hard?
Speaker 3: At times?
Speaker 2: The distinct between like an attachment, an energetic imbalance, or
Speaker 2: a psychological issuere are they pretty much easy to kind
Speaker 2: of spot.
Speaker 4: Like this, Sometimes it's hard. Sometimes we're married to our misery.
Speaker 4: So I can remove all the entities, so the cows
Speaker 4: come home. But if that person is programmed to think
Speaker 4: they need that misery or that existence, they'll create these
Speaker 4: thought forms to keep having them come back in. That's
Speaker 4: a possibility too. And somebody asked, Catherine asked, can we
Speaker 4: help how can we help jabbed people? That's a very
Speaker 4: complicated question. They have to be able to have the
Speaker 4: free will to understand what was happening to them and
Speaker 4: want the help. If they want the help, that is fantastic.
Speaker 4: We can do more. But if they don't, that is
Speaker 4: where they are stuck at with their sole evolution for
Speaker 4: that time. Has their free will been taken? Absolutely? Is
Speaker 4: there something we can do with it? Yes, to a
Speaker 4: certain degree. So thank you for that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Let me see here, what do you
Speaker 2: what do you think is going on with like the
Speaker 2: whole spiritual warfare? Like is it is it like uh
Speaker 2: do you think like it's like uh biblical or do
Speaker 2: you think it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's beyond biblical, It's beyond all the things. The
Speaker 4: spiritual warfare has been going on for millennias, even outside
Speaker 4: of our planet. I believe, and I could be wrong,
Speaker 4: that Earth is the thirteenth planet that could possibly face
Speaker 4: total destruction, but the light side is coming in and
Speaker 4: they're rethinking how they do business so that it won't happen.
Speaker 4: That's a big deal. We've seen, you know, we can
Speaker 4: go into the galactic wars and stuff, and that's kind
Speaker 4: of the same same thing that's happening here, but on
Speaker 4: a kind of a different level, more of a I
Speaker 4: interference type of level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and one thing you said is you
Speaker 2: we worked with like people in the SSP and like
Speaker 2: black ops and stuff like, do they have it usually
Speaker 2: different when it comes to entities or like or like
Speaker 2: or you work with them like about right, recovering memories
Speaker 2: or like, it can.
Speaker 4: Be recovering memories. Yeah, definitely. And sometimes the abuses are
Speaker 4: so significant that their higher self and spiritual team says, no,
Speaker 4: that's not a good idea to recover those memories, and
Speaker 4: they'll give that person just enough to say, Okay, I'm good.
Speaker 4: They won't. It's because these things are horrific. With sspers,
Speaker 4: we've got people with missing time. We've got people with
Speaker 4: these unusual experiences where they remember being on Mars, for example,
Speaker 4: and running and jumping fifty feet and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so there's a lot there. I'm gonna let my seventeen
Speaker 4: pound coworker out. I apologize one moment, please.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Yeah, And while she's doing that, thanks Sarry
Speaker 2: Read for being here. We have I'm looking at the counter,
Speaker 2: we have seventy people watching between my channel and Lauras
Speaker 2: and and that's not even counting the people watching on
Speaker 2: my rumble. So so yeah, that's it's a great turnout.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for being here. And uh yeah, what
Speaker 2: about my labs and targeted individuals? Do you come across
Speaker 2: that a lot?
Speaker 4: I do I come across with voice to skull technology.
Speaker 4: I don't want to call people victims because it puts
Speaker 4: you in a one down position, right, but people that
Speaker 4: are affected with that my labs mind control. There's many
Speaker 4: ways that they can harness our energy. And one of
Speaker 4: the things they want to do is they want to create.
Speaker 4: When they create a huge amount of fears within us,
Speaker 4: traumas within us, we have an adrenaline adrenochrome spike in
Speaker 4: us that starts to light up our psychic senses that
Speaker 4: they can utilize. So that's when we can start to
Speaker 4: disengage them from that, give them their life back. Part
Speaker 4: of it is helping them to understand that they can
Speaker 4: be safe, that their soul is safe, that their subconscious
Speaker 4: is safe. Do we have our conscious self here that
Speaker 4: you and I are and all these people are having
Speaker 4: this conversations in a right together. We have our higher
Speaker 4: self which connects us to the higher realms, but we
Speaker 4: have our subconscious. Our subconscious self, the medical industry says,
Speaker 4: keeps our heart beating and keeps us breathing. Yes it does,
Speaker 4: but it does so much more. It is the record
Speaker 4: keeper to our soul. And when the subconscious gets traumatized,
Speaker 4: we become stagnant. We don't understand that the subconscious is traumatized.
Speaker 4: This is that concept of oh, he's just a grown man,
Speaker 4: a little boy in a grown man's body, or grown
Speaker 4: little girl and a grown woman's body. Because they're frozen
Speaker 4: at these earliest signs of traumas, and they can definitely
Speaker 4: be earthplane traumas, they can also be these extrasensory traumas
Speaker 4: such as my labs and sspers. That's a big deal.
Speaker 4: And so when we can learn to unravel that and
Speaker 4: heal them, they get to have bits of their life
Speaker 4: back again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and like but see you. I was thinking
Speaker 2: like about mine, like I haven't given up, but I
Speaker 2: was just like, well, maybe this is just what the
Speaker 2: what I have to deal with because of like what's
Speaker 2: what I do? And maybe like they're just going to
Speaker 2: keep sending this over and over and over again. And
Speaker 2: I maybe I like like like a targeted individual, but
Speaker 2: like I don't want to give it that much amount
Speaker 2: of power. But like you know, in my situation, like
Speaker 2: I feel kind of jaded because like I've tried everything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I get it.
Speaker 4: I mean break the program. We've got to break the
Speaker 4: program and break those entities that are hatched to you.
Speaker 4: And a lot of times we think we've removed the entities,
Speaker 4: but we've only removed one layer of them. We need
Speaker 4: to look back through time, back through space, and back
Speaker 4: through multiple dimensions to bring them all in and just
Speaker 4: suck them up and send them off. It's not that
Speaker 4: simple to remove a like a like a black magician,
Speaker 4: which is just a former ghost turn negative. It's not
Speaker 4: just enough to do. You know, a lot of times
Speaker 4: these entities, like when let's say you and I are
Speaker 4: working or anybody else will working and we see maybe
Speaker 4: we see a hat man or we see some lower
Speaker 4: realm entities. I'm like, Okay, we got that cleaned up.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, oh no, there's going to be more
Speaker 4: because these are the ponds on the chessboard. These are
Speaker 4: the disposable ones that the arkans that the Reptilians use
Speaker 4: to make us think we got everything.
Speaker 2: Well, so it's like a big deception. So I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that you're able to spot that, like how many
Speaker 2: people I k s? Can? You know? And that's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: And I think that it came from my background in
Speaker 4: this life because I don't give up. And my story
Speaker 4: for those who don't know who I am, is that
Speaker 4: they one day, our little girl came racing into our
Speaker 4: bedroom in the middle of the night and said, Mommy, Mommy,
Speaker 4: the shadow men in my room and they said they're
Speaker 4: going to steal my soul to break you. Six year
Speaker 4: olds don't talk like that. Yeah, So I had to
Speaker 4: fight like hell to figure out what to do, how
Speaker 4: to do this, and it I became, you know, basically
Speaker 4: a pit bull with the bone and I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to let go. They messed with the wrong Mama bear,
Speaker 4: and as mad as I was at the light side,
Speaker 4: the God side of things. I realize now looking back,
Speaker 4: that was my training ground to do this. I should
Speaker 4: be a retired school teacher with a pench and I
Speaker 4: keep saying that over and over and over. But I'm
Speaker 4: the most blessed person out there because I get to
Speaker 4: change people's lives in amazing ways and I'm very blessed
Speaker 4: and honored and humbled to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you have a book out too, so people
Speaker 2: can get your book. It's called Battle with the Dark Side.
Speaker 2: My Journey from teacher to Exorcists? Is it kind of
Speaker 2: like did you want to I mean, I know we've
Speaker 2: kind of talked about it, but do you give people
Speaker 2: I got a little bit of an overview, like so
Speaker 2: maybe we might have people that might want to get it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's basically it's basically my story of like how
Speaker 4: I went from a teacher basically to an exorcist. What
Speaker 4: I do. It's a form of exorcism and the trials
Speaker 4: and tribulations along the way. There's ten different stories that
Speaker 4: highlight like they're just ten stories that happened to us,
Speaker 4: Like the time I burned my almost burnt my house
Speaker 4: down with sage for example. Oh, it didn't help me
Speaker 4: at all either. By the way, sage doesn't remove reptilian's folks,
Speaker 4: just let you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed that too, Like I've tried burning stage
Speaker 2: to like you know, they get these. It didn't do
Speaker 2: much it. It'll like move them for a tiny bit,
Speaker 2: but they'll just come right back.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Absolutely, you know. And we have to
Speaker 4: understand that a lot of these, like light worker rituals,
Speaker 4: the dark side gave them to us. Yeah, because oh
Speaker 4: we're gonna say, hey, let's take some dried crispy leaves
Speaker 4: and tell them to burn it and then we'll pretend
Speaker 4: to leave. Sage is anti microbial, antibacterial. It does have
Speaker 4: properties to it, but it's not going to remove your
Speaker 4: reptilian for you. Yeah, and there are things that do.
Speaker 4: Somebody's saying frankincense works absolutely, so you know, frankincense, gold
Speaker 4: immers what the christ Child was gifted. They're high frequency substances.
Speaker 4: They frankncense and myrr work together really nicely. Mr turbocharges
Speaker 4: the strength of frankincense, by the way, so when you
Speaker 4: use them in combination, it's amazing. So the sap of
Speaker 4: a tree is that life force energy of the tree, right,
Speaker 4: the blood forces of the tree. So when we use
Speaker 4: sap instead of a dried, crispy leaf, we've got a
Speaker 4: lot more spiritual horsepower there. When we use an essential oil,
Speaker 4: we're looking at the life force energy of the flower,
Speaker 4: that pure, god centered life force, which is also high frequency.
Speaker 4: And they're all these essential oils are all different frequencies
Speaker 4: because you know, not every day I need Franken Sense,
Speaker 4: some day I need orange, or some day whatever it is.
Speaker 4: You figure out what you use and what works for you,
Speaker 4: and it can change. And so what we do is
Speaker 4: we start using these substances around us because it raises
Speaker 4: our vibrational field. So one of the things that I
Speaker 4: use it's I think the company is Indigo Wild Zoom
Speaker 4: z u M. They actually have a Frankinsense and Mr
Speaker 4: laundry soap with real essential oils in it. So all
Speaker 4: of my clothing is bathed in frank and Sense and Mr.
Speaker 4: It adds a protective layer.
Speaker 2: Wait should be getting that stuff? I'll buy you know,
Speaker 2: I can order it after the show, which.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, Indigo Wild Zoom z u M is
Speaker 4: the company name. I think Indigo Wild I think dot
Speaker 4: com okay, and it's you know, it's layers and layers
Speaker 4: of protections. And so what happens is, you know, my sheets,
Speaker 4: my linens, my you know, everything is bathed in this.
Speaker 4: I'm not I don't make anything from the company. I
Speaker 4: just believe it. But it's a good company. So I
Speaker 4: use the frankinsense and mirror and everything gets washed in
Speaker 4: that period, and so it creates it. It's a subtle
Speaker 4: energy thing. You can utilize the music from Mozart and Beethoven,
Speaker 4: for example, to clear your house, just play Mozart on
Speaker 4: low Doctor Masuu Emoto, the Japanese scientist messages from water,
Speaker 4: discovered that this classical music had a very high vibrational
Speaker 4: feel to it, and when you play the music, the
Speaker 4: water crystals became literally lightened and symmetrical. If you are
Speaker 4: using like maybe screamo music or whatever music, they become dishelved,
Speaker 4: these water crystals. You can play this stuff on your
Speaker 4: computer at the very lowest level and it still works.
Speaker 4: You don't have to hear it. But it's a subtle
Speaker 4: energy concept. In the is guys, we have to build
Speaker 4: our spiritual tool belt. Yeah, what what is working for
Speaker 4: me today? May not be working for me next year
Speaker 4: because both sides evolve. Both sides pivot and change, So
Speaker 4: we have to learn how to shift, how to add
Speaker 4: to our spiritual tool belt. This is key. Wafting stage
Speaker 4: around only gets you so far. Prayer and meditation are helpful,
Speaker 4: but you got to have some action behind it. Learning
Speaker 4: to listen is huge. Our intuition is our superpower. It's
Speaker 4: not seeing dead people. It's all about our intuition. When
Speaker 4: we learn to trust our intuition, our psychic abilities start
Speaker 4: to Expand that's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of I remember. That's that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's wow, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it keeps us safe, right when we listen to
Speaker 4: her intuition, and it's our intuition. Is that first hit,
Speaker 4: that first thing, and then when we ignore the intuition,
Speaker 4: we're going to get another hit. But then our conscious
Speaker 4: mind's like, oh, that can't be true, and then we
Speaker 4: start to self doubt. So go for the first hit.
Speaker 4: What's the worst thing that could happen? You're wrong? Who cares?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And my most powerful intuition story, I've got quite a
Speaker 4: few of them. I was over at a girlfriend's house
Speaker 4: and we're having dinner. Her husband's out, you know, out
Speaker 4: of town on a business trip and stuff, and I
Speaker 4: literally blurred out to her said, hey, I'm going to
Speaker 4: take you to work tomorrow. And I'm like, why the
Speaker 4: hell did I say that? That is so cringey? Okay,
Speaker 4: And she's like what. I'm like, yeah, just take you
Speaker 4: to work. We got some things to do tomorrow. And
Speaker 4: I'm making this stuff up in my mind. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the heppen? I'm having this conversation. I'm like, what
Speaker 4: the hell? I pick her up from work, I pick
Speaker 4: her up from the house. The next morning, she had
Speaker 4: a widow maker heart attack in my car.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, Thank god.
Speaker 4: I listened to my intuition, because my friend would not
Speaker 4: be here with us right now. You know, another intuitive
Speaker 4: hit I had this is probably equally as important. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm training for a triathlon and I'm getting massages on
Speaker 4: a semi regular basis, and I'm in the at the
Speaker 4: massage therapist's office. I said, you know what, I'm going
Speaker 4: to leave my clothes on, and she's like okay, and
Speaker 4: she's thinking that's weird. I could feel it, right, should
Speaker 4: you not? Ten minutes in the massage, the building caught
Speaker 4: on fire.
Speaker 2: Whoa, holy shit, yeah you can tell your intuitions people
Speaker 2: turned on Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was like wow, okay, and we both
Speaker 4: laugh at this to this day. I mean we became
Speaker 4: really good friends over that experience. Right it was an
Speaker 4: electrical fire.
Speaker 3: In the wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah that holy shit. Yeah that almost happened to me
Speaker 2: one time with my microwave here and I luckily I
Speaker 2: came downstairs. Like again, you know, I have these intuitive
Speaker 2: hits too, Like so like one time, like recently, was
Speaker 2: it like three in the morning, and I'll set I
Speaker 2: can send you the video. I sent it to someone
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 3: I still have it.
Speaker 2: So for whatever reason, like I still smoked cigarettes here
Speaker 2: and there, like not not a lot, but like I'll
Speaker 2: have like a few a day. And like I for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, like I woke up at three in the
Speaker 2: morning and decided to go out and have a smoke, right, well,
Speaker 2: like I never do that, Like it's usually just like
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, Like but like when I
Speaker 2: went outside, I looked to the right and there was
Speaker 2: like this like like bright blue, like it looked like
Speaker 2: like a like a poral area. It wasn't round, and
Speaker 2: like you know, it wasn't like like something you could
Speaker 2: jump through like a porl. It just looked like this
Speaker 2: whole area was like it was so and it's so blue,
Speaker 2: like you know. Some people said it was uh. And
Speaker 2: when I posted it on Instagram, some people said it
Speaker 2: was a fog, but I was like, I've never seen
Speaker 2: fog that blue. And I was in nature, you know.
Speaker 2: And and and my friend Willow, who's in the chat
Speaker 2: right now, she said, she said, you know, in nature,
Speaker 2: she said, blue is like one of the most rare colors. So,
Speaker 2: and then I showed her the image. I can send
Speaker 2: it to you too. I think it was some kind
Speaker 2: of weird portal area opening up or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have no evidence to back that up.
Speaker 2: But then another time, this is totally unrelated about the
Speaker 2: intuition that it was like for some reason, like my
Speaker 2: mind told me to go downstairs and make coffee at
Speaker 2: like five am, and my my microwave was short circuiting
Speaker 2: and it was like basically like heating up the wall.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I had to hurry up and call the fire
Speaker 2: department because I didn't think to just go downstairs and
Speaker 2: turn off the breaker. You know, it's it's you don't
Speaker 2: think about it. You know, I thought at first the
Speaker 2: microwave was plugged into the wall, but it was actually
Speaker 2: wired into the wall, so I had to you know,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's yeah, So I've been happy that
Speaker 2: my intuition has helped in those situations, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And when we get those like when we listen
Speaker 4: to our intuition, it's so empowering, right, it's like, wow,
Speaker 4: I can do this. So it's it's a big deal.
Speaker 4: It's really big deal our intuition.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you a couple more questions, So, like,
Speaker 2: what was it like when you when you guys had
Speaker 2: your experience that like led you to like do all
Speaker 2: this stuff like with the like the haunting and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, Like what were you seeing? Like was it demons?
Speaker 2: Was it shadow people? Was it like? And then how
Speaker 2: are your kids now? Are they okay with everything?
Speaker 4: And what wasn't it at the time? I mean, it
Speaker 4: was like literally who's who in the spiritual zoo? It
Speaker 4: was ghosts, it was shape shifter beings, it was we
Speaker 4: had a lot of what I would call black magicians,
Speaker 4: which are former ghosts that have turned into dark entities
Speaker 4: by their own free will. Through power and greed we
Speaker 4: had and I didn't, like I said, I didn't know
Speaker 4: what they were. They were optillions at the time. We
Speaker 4: had all kinds of stuff happening. Every day was I'm
Speaker 4: going to say, a different adventure that was so exhausting.
Speaker 4: After that experience where they my daughter came in and
Speaker 4: said the shadow men were going to steal my soul,
Speaker 4: I didn't sleep for years. I would take I would
Speaker 4: go to sleep for two hours a night after they
Speaker 4: were in school because I was afraid if I fell
Speaker 4: asleep what would happen? And every day it was different
Speaker 4: every day. I mean, I can't even begin to describe
Speaker 4: the book My teacher teacher from Exorcist book talks a
Speaker 4: lot about those days and a lot about looking for help.
Speaker 4: I mean, I cannot tell you how much clergy, psychic,
Speaker 4: shaman and all the things that we we called and
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure this out and most of what
Speaker 4: I tried just didn't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been my experience as well. That's why I
Speaker 2: really resonate with you, because like, that's why I'm so
Speaker 2: like jaded right now about the whole situation, because it's
Speaker 2: like not I mean, like and as far as like
Speaker 2: some of the hearers that have tried to help me,
Speaker 2: like I would recommend them to everybody, like I'm not,
Speaker 2: I don't want it, I'm not or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, for whatever reason, it didn't work
Speaker 2: for my situation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what I had when in my early days, you know,
Speaker 4: people would I recommend other people and stuff to me.
Speaker 4: Nothing worked, Like three percent of what I tried work,
Speaker 4: and the amount of money we spent on services and
Speaker 4: devices and all of these things, nothing was working. And
Speaker 4: it was so frustrating. And you know, and I remember,
Speaker 4: this isn't that book. I had a very well meaning
Speaker 4: friend said, well, did you burn some sage? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm so green at this? What what do you mean
Speaker 4: burn sage?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Okay, So how green I was? And I'm like, where
Speaker 4: do you get sage? And she says, oh, go to
Speaker 4: this metaphysical store here, Dada. So I go, and I
Speaker 4: go buy these three cute little bundles of sage, and
Speaker 4: I take them home and I burn them and like
Speaker 4: nothing happens. And then she said, well, did you burn
Speaker 4: white sage? And I'm like I don't know what the
Speaker 4: difference is. She comes by the next day with some
Speaker 4: white sage, and I thought, and she's like, well, they're
Speaker 4: very powerful, just burn one at a time. And I
Speaker 4: want grew that the kids are in school. My husband's gone,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna burn them all. So I get a silver
Speaker 4: mixing bowl and I talk about this often, and I
Speaker 4: light them on fire, and I'm sleep deprived. And so
Speaker 4: what happens when you light something on fire in a
Speaker 4: metal bowl? It gets hot fast right it literally I
Speaker 4: drop it. It lands on the dining room table. It's
Speaker 4: this huge whush of a chimene a like if you
Speaker 4: have ever had a chimine a A. No, what's it's
Speaker 4: a It's a Mexican fireplace. It's small, and it just
Speaker 4: the fire can shoot out the top. My stealing is scorched.
Speaker 4: The whole house is billowing with smoke. I'm opening the
Speaker 4: windows and doors. I'm like, please, God, don't let anybody
Speaker 4: call the fire department. And I walk outside and all
Speaker 4: these entities walk out with me and they're just laughing.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 4: I mean it did nothing. And that was like time
Speaker 4: after time after time. That's what was happening to me.
Speaker 4: So I look at silver linings and everybody out there
Speaker 4: who's dealing with this and suffering and everything else, know
Speaker 4: that what you're doing, you're gaining lessons, but you're gaining
Speaker 4: experiences and knowledge. So most of what I learned in
Speaker 4: the early days was what didn't work. And then I said, okay,
Speaker 4: well why didn't this work? This was the key why
Speaker 4: don't these things work?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 4: Ultimately it all comes down to frequencies. But that was
Speaker 4: a lot of money dumped into the why it didn't
Speaker 4: work category. Let's face it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brit said, were you always able to see them.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid? Yes? And then when I
Speaker 4: was it faded away because whatever. And then when I
Speaker 4: was a teenager it was the weirdest thing, but I
Speaker 4: could tell when somebody was going to die. It was
Speaker 4: not the coolest psychic ability to have whatsoever, like I predicted,
Speaker 4: like all these deaths.
Speaker 3: It was awful.
Speaker 4: So I said, I want no part of it. I
Speaker 4: stayed away from it. But then when my daughter became
Speaker 4: very psychic, it all came rolling back to me. And
Speaker 4: these abilities do follow family lines. Everybody has psychic ability.
Speaker 4: The issue is different. Themes and variations and degrees of
Speaker 4: psychic abilities. So just know that when we're developing a
Speaker 4: psychic ability, it may ebb and flow, it may.
Speaker 2: Come and go.
Speaker 4: You may start to do this or this or see
Speaker 4: your sense something differently.
Speaker 2: So yeah, wow, this is this is a fascinating interview.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, this was I thought this was amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 2: cover before we finish up? And I would love to
Speaker 2: have you back on again. This was great.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, you know, the best advice is test
Speaker 4: and vent your guides. Learn if it's muscle testing, if
Speaker 4: it's visualization techniques. When we learned a muscle test, we're
Speaker 4: actually connecting to our higher self. And if you get
Speaker 4: the wrong answer or you get a shape shifter, you know,
Speaker 4: let's say I'm vetting archangel Michael and he turns out
Speaker 4: to be a shape shifter, don't think I wasn't order.
Speaker 4: They think I dodged a bullet. And just and just
Speaker 4: make sure that the light side, just each command I'm commanding,
Speaker 4: the light side takes this thing away to the higher
Speaker 4: realms right now. Yeah, It's it can be that simple.
Speaker 4: So thank you, and I want to thank you for
Speaker 4: the for this opportunity to Rob.
Speaker 2: That was thank you absolutely, yeah, yeah, and yeah, do
Speaker 2: you want to tell people where they can follow you
Speaker 2: and find you and stuff? And this was I love this,
Speaker 2: This was awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 4: My name Laura Vanteyne dot com. L A you are
Speaker 4: a v A N T y n E dot com.
Speaker 4: And on my website, I do want to say that
Speaker 4: I have a ton of blogs. I write a blog
Speaker 4: a week right now, a month behind an August, but
Speaker 4: I write a blog a week on average about a
Speaker 4: variety of topics to help people help themselves. If we
Speaker 4: can get people to start to help themselves, it frees
Speaker 4: up humanity so much. If people need services, spiritual services
Speaker 4: to clean or clear something, I have that as well.
Speaker 4: But also, if you're hiring any practitioner, you want to
Speaker 4: make sure that I ask them how do they vet
Speaker 4: their guides, how do they vet whom or what they're
Speaker 4: talking to? Ask them, you know how they do things?
Speaker 4: Question them. If you don't like their answers, you don't
Speaker 4: owe them anything, period. It's an opportunity for you to
Speaker 4: learn how to discern. Discernment is key. Discernment keeps us safe.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, well that was what this was well said.
Speaker 2: And yeah and thank you guys for everybody for tuning today.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and go to Glora's website and check her out.
Speaker 2: And oh, what's your YouTube some people can callow you.
Speaker 4: Well, it's Laura Van Tyne at Laura Van Tyne and
Speaker 4: I take up I take my client sessions and load
Speaker 4: them up there so people can get an experience of
Speaker 4: a client session and to see the work. A lot
Speaker 4: of what I've been doing now are past life regressions
Speaker 4: that will show how things work in their life versus
Speaker 4: in the past life and the connections and things like that.
Speaker 4: There's one, I think it was the very first one
Speaker 4: I uploaded, was I did a past life regression that
Speaker 4: turned into her current life alien abduction. Whoa, that was wild.
Speaker 4: There's two parts to that one. Yeah, so there's a
Speaker 4: lot out there.
Speaker 2: I might check that out for real. That sounds cool,
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds interesting for sure.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, so thank you for asking. So
Speaker 4: there's all Instagram, Facebook, all the things. Books, The books
Speaker 4: are on my store on the website and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So and I just I have classes to teach people
Speaker 4: how to protect themselves, spiritual self defense and some other
Speaker 4: things like that. I've got a class right now that
Speaker 4: I'm teaching second Saturday of every month. You can still
Speaker 4: enroll and you can have the previous the first month's link.
Speaker 4: But it's about is it a dark entity? Is it
Speaker 4: heavy energy? Is it something else? And what do you
Speaker 4: do about it? Because it's a five month course once
Speaker 4: a month where people get to learn some things and
Speaker 4: also have some Q and a time with me.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Thank you all right, well, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for doing today, and thank you everybody and everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm done for tonight. No more shows, you know, and
Speaker 2: for tonight, but I will see everybody tomorrow and good
Speaker 2: night everyone, and thank you for a