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among many others. We are talking about mafia ghosts and
where to find them, specifically the mafia ghosts that still
haunt the site of the Saint Valentine's Day massacre in
Lincoln Park, Chicago. There are all kinds of spooky hauntings
that surround the most famous mafia killing in American history,
al Capone's most famous murders. Though he wasn't there himself,
the ghosts are still there today and they haunt a
lot of very unfortunate people. Listen to everything they you
now on softcore History.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Softcore History.
Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome back to Softcore History. I am
your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as always
by Dan Rochester and a very very special guest this week,
Ross Bowlan, TFM co founder Ish rbp Ross Bowlin podcast,
writer of the Book of Frat. Yeah, best New York
Times bestselling author. All held up really by my rewrites
on the bus?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, mostly mostly your hard work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fucking like three weeks that I was supposed
to help with that. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Not a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here. Studio looks nice. Got the
fucking gladiator helmet next to me, spooky month here.
Speaker 4: On, don't slop us up, Glad just coming here, m
F dune doom, give us dome, all right, we don't
need that.
Speaker 3: It's just it's called the courtesy Dan. It's how you
start a podcast being nice.
Speaker 4: That helmet's actually broken because one of the listeners wore
it and had somebody hit him with the sword.
Speaker 1: That sword, Oh doesn't work, it's not real helmet. A
guest did this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he came into the studio, sat at the very seat,
put on the helmet, had somebody whack him in the
head with the sword and he bled. So not great
for defense.
Speaker 3: Great for content, though, I feel like that puts me
in a really awkward position because I don't really want
to get hit with the sword today.
Speaker 4: Oh no, he wasn't on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, he was just wandering around drunk. Oh, he was.
Speaker 4: Just one of those one of the fans. Yeah, came
in fair enough. You have those your house.
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't come to the house.
Speaker 1: Thank god, play with your toddler for a little while
than just.
Speaker 3: It's been a concern because our Bowling Media's headquarters is
uh oh, it's listed the LLC's Yeah. Yeah, you can
address here. Yeah, you can find it. And I've got
an employee living in there. Can you just peel box it?
Speaker 1: I think so it's a lot of effort.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like sounds like a real chore rob.
Speaker 4: I barely get my mail at my apartment complex.
Speaker 1: I checked my mail once a month. Now, do you
have one other stupid fucking neighborhood mailboxes at my househouse? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually, uh, it's funny you bring that up because
we have an h o A. Yeah, and this mailbox
center was built in the nineteen nineties, in the early nineties. Yeah,
and they're really small boxes. And all of these old
farts in my neighborhood are complaining that the mailman just
shoves all the mail into these tiny boxes and you
can make a sexual window if you want. But uh,
they're trying to replace the entire mail setup now and
it would cost us like sixteen hundred dollars per resident
to do so we're obviously not doing it how But
this is like a thirty five email chain that's been
going off this whole work week so far, and it's
really fun to read.
Speaker 1: But it's just a metal box with different smaller boxes
in it.
Speaker 4: I've thought I've had so much beef with the post
office and mailmen in general postal service. This one guy
in my old apartment complex, if I didn't pick up
my mail for seven days, he.
Speaker 1: Just took it back that they always do that.
Speaker 4: It's fucked up.
Speaker 1: They run out of room or they think you're dead. No,
they're like do you just get marked dead by the
post office and then they leave you the note that
you need to go pick it up.
Speaker 4: I like confronted him face to face, man the man
doing his job, and I was just like, hey, just
leave it in there.
Speaker 1: Civil servant. Yeah, But like first it happened.
Speaker 4: Multiple times, and then I also had to like file
that I lived there, it was weird.
Speaker 1: I'm also just hate that I don't get mail delivered
to my fucking house. Yeah, that was a weird thing.
When I moved to Texas and had a house in
Texas for the first time, I was like, where the
fuck is the mailbox?
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Austin, it's a big deal. Like, yeah, that
is not the way it was in Houston where I'm from. Obviously,
if you live in an apartment complex, you have like
a different but.
Speaker 1: Like neighborhoods having a apartment complex mail set up in Austin.
Speaker 4: And is fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how my house, isn't it?
Speaker 4: And can we address the real issue? What's that these
people aren't wearing their uniforms anymore? No, we just got
a guy in fucking shorts and a tea delivering our mouth.
Speaker 1: That could be anyone, now, dude, it's not even It's
a guy in shorts and a tea driving a minivan
in my neighborhood. What the hell?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to be a proper country.
Speaker 3: Oh I've got I've got like a legit dude with
like the one at Bowling Media Headquarters, which is in
South Austin.
Speaker 1: He has like the full on.
Speaker 4: I need the button down the hat, I need the
official shorts, and then I need the midcalf socks.
Speaker 3: This guy parks under a shaded tree and goes door
to door with the bag like old school.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd better be a veteran too.
Speaker 1: He probably is. They're always hiring.
Speaker 4: They're supposed to hire a lot of veterans.
Speaker 1: Oh they are. Yeah, that just seems like a sweet job,
to be honest, it doesn't seem that hard. Uh So today,
before before you came, Dan was like, Ross is coming on.
Write something for Ross, which I usually do where we
usually do. We're trying to cater to the guests, right, see,
look at you guys. I was like, I was like,
what should I do? Like Dan said, pirates, But I'm
not really into pirates. Fuck, I'm not. I told Ross
BYRT that was my request. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't.
I don't know. I didn't want to. You'll you'll probably
end up enjoying. But at first I was like, I
let's get clever.
Speaker 4: With it, or you won't and we'll just kind of
drag this on.
Speaker 1: That's fine and go back to mail. Yeah, we just
do mail all day, the history of our mail. But
what'd you come up with? So I was if initially
I was gonna do uh frat house ghost stories as
a throwback. Yeah, yeah, But it turns out they're all
the same. There's like no variants on those. There's not
like five interesting, like different, very different ones. It's all
just like person died in the house, lights flicker on
and off. Whatever. There was one that a kid allegedly
was hazed to death, and there was another one where
a girl was like lonely and like hung herself or something,
but then her her fiance showed up. He was just late,
which feels dramatic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that kid couldn't hang though. Those are too dark
to death. Yeah, just couldn't.
Speaker 1: And it just wasn't. They didn't do. But the hauntings
weren't fun. I mean, any anytime there's a haunting, it's
typically it got there in a dark way. No one
dies peacefully and haunts the area.
Speaker 3: That's not how it works. Those ghosts just pass on
to the next.
Speaker 4: World right through the tunnel, like someone's doing a keg
stand and all of a sudden, the beer turns the blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that didn't that that didn't exist.
It was all just like the which we just know
is faulty wiring in the year old house. Yeah, so
I couldn't do that. I was gonna do something on
the Vatican archives, but all of it's like so fake.
All the ghost stories are like so fake that it's
too much.
Speaker 4: So loves doing Catholic shit.
Speaker 1: I do love doing Catholic shit, and.
Speaker 4: To a detriment. Like we're almost a Catholic podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but like in a way where
people are like do they hate the church?
Speaker 4: We're in a good zone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you Catholic too, Dan, aren't you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Iris Catholic.
Speaker 3: I'm the only non Catholic here. I'm Baptist.
Speaker 4: We're here to actually baptize you. We're gonna get hurt you.
We're not doing a podcast, but this isn't going on.
Speaker 3: I'm covered in sin, Dan, I desperately need the water
of Christ to wash over.
Speaker 4: That's the cool thing about being Catholic, though, is you
can just be really sorry at the end, but you're
allowed to do anything until until then.
Speaker 1: That's all Christianity really bad. I'm just jump into.
Speaker 4: The like Hitler before he shot himself.
Speaker 1: One prayer.
Speaker 4: Sorry, he said to hal Mary, and he's in heaven.
Speaker 1: Now he's good. Did you just say, hile Mary? It's
a good Hitler joke. Dan, Uh, you're sick. Okay, So
what are we talking? But I know you're like a
Sopranos guy, and probably I think Boardwalk Empire two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just mafia and general mafia in general, all about
organized crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So today we're talking about the hauntings surrounding
arguably the most famous killing in mafia history. Oh, the
Saint Valentine's Day massacre. Oh yeah, hot, so hear about this?
Speaker 4: Now? About this? I actually do I know? I know
about this yet.
Speaker 1: If you're unfamiliar. It was the murder the same Valentine's
Da Masker had occurred in nineteen twenty nine on Valentine's Day,
and it was the murder of seven associates of Chicago's
North Side Gang by Al Capone's South Side Gang. They
were all lined up on a wall and shot in
a garage in Lincoln Park by four people. They never
figured out who did it other than that they worked
for Capone, but they never figured out the act.
Speaker 4: Well, Rob in THEI Ena, it never really matters, It.
Speaker 3: Doesn't isn't his name Alphonse Alfonse? Yeah, al Capone sounds
way cooler. Good that they shortened that because everyone's every
once in a while somebody will reference him by his
full legal name, and I'm like, that just doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1: I mean, but there's no alphon what other owl, there's
no elongation of al That is hard Alan Alfred Alvin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: We're just gonna pass up on you guys not getting
the Lincoln Park reference? Is that then?
Speaker 1: Is that was it hit?
Speaker 3: Honestly it flagged for me. I was like, is that why?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 4: Wasn't about that rock rap life? No?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't sit at the crossroads of rock and rap.
Speaker 4: That was actually my first concert I ever went to.
It was Lincoln Park, the Lincoln Park pod trapped and Hubastankune.
Speaker 1: That was in third grade. What Yeah, those vibes.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't you emancipated it?
Speaker 4: It was an awesome actually like kind of run there.
I think In the same month I went to w
w f Rale and yeah, Lincoln Park.
Speaker 3: You were that's like the ultimate American nineteen nineties vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an absolute on brand early two thousands,
Late Night but for a third grader. It's a little heavy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like the Delaar County Triple Crown.
Speaker 1: What was it? What would be the third? What was
there third?
Speaker 4: He said, I didn't I had Yeah, I never achieved it,
but that's as close as I got.
Speaker 1: I mean, throwing batteries at yeah, a Philly sports situation
for sure. Someone puking on your mom at a Phillies game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, probably punching somebody in a Redskins shirt, which
today could hold up, you know, be like you, you
could just play it off like your anti racist. Yeah
you ansault.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you assaulted the Washington violence in the
and I guess would be a nut.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, dude, fuck your chap, you big it.
Speaker 1: Definitely didn't want to just punch someone in the face today.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, we single handedly prevented the Canadians from
spying on us. You're welcome, guys. Remember Hitchbot? Remember that
little fucker, Oh, the.
Speaker 1: Hitch hiking robot. That's some Philadelphia mine.
Speaker 4: Went from town to town and a guy ina Randall
Cunningham Jersey destroyed and killed. You don't remember him?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: What the fuck is like twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1: That the hitchhiking robot was taking that guy's job, which
of hitch hiking.
Speaker 4: He was collecting data on American citizens and this brave
patriot in Philadelphia took him out and you're welcome.
Speaker 1: It was a Canadian robot. It was spying on Americans.
That's Dan's theory.
Speaker 4: The community takes care of it, and he passed it
on to the next community and he just goes across
the country and they like document it. Yeah, he was
collecting data on American citizens.
Speaker 1: Okay, damn, So you're welcome.
Speaker 4: Also that Santa Claus. First off, that's Santa Claus that
my grandfather threw snowballs at. He was a skinny Santa.
They pulled him out of the crowd because the initial
Santa didn't come for the halftime performance. We're also getting
our ass beat. But they pulled this dude, this drunk fan,
out of the stance who was wearing a Santa costume.
But he was he was skinny. I just like skinny Santa.
Speaker 1: I just liked Your grandpa saw combat at an Eagles game,
and mine saw combat in Europe.
Speaker 4: My grandfather also saw combat in Korea.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't, well, he fixed planes absolutely did not. Yeah,
he said he played basketball is the best time in
his life. He didn't see combat until he came home
and went to an Eagles game. He almost got murked
at the airport too, by a plane. By a plane,
like like a crash or something.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: No, he was driving his little uh kind of golf
cart or whatever across the rutting way. Yeah, and the
plane was coming down. Play was doing it. It was
what it was supposed to do. Yeah, he was in
the wrong place.
Speaker 1: Uh. Sounds like a hymn problem.
Speaker 4: Uh. There's a lot of hymn problems in my family.
My great grandfather got electrorecuted to death by a flood.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of hymn problems in your family.
Speaker 4: My great other great grandfather got kicked out of being
lou Autenant governor of Michigan for embezzlement.
Speaker 3: Oh, Frank Murphy, we should have done this show on
your family, and we should really do need to do
a Frank Murphy episode if you have enough information on it.
Speaker 4: The thing is too in Michigan, there's two Frank Murphy's.
One actually becomes governor. That's not my great grandfather, but
the other Frank Murphy gets kicked out of office.
Speaker 3: Nice, Well the bar was set low for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, so I think you're clearing it. Yeah, no,
I could have been a third generation water man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely clearing. So the murders were the same
Alain's Samasaker. It was basically you know, typical mafia competition, right.
It was between the North Side Gang, which was Irish
and the South Side Gang Compone's Gang, which was Italian.
So potatoes ver spaghetti, spaghetti kills potatoes.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was a complete blood bath. Well they can't mix, right,
you can't know. It's like, yeah, that's too many carbs.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cars, a heavy meal. Yeah, you're
just gonna go. You're gonna sleep for days after that.
So uh, it was a flete blood bath too. Like
it was a fucking it was disgusting. Like they were
lined up against the wall and at point blank range.
Four guys, two with Tommy guns, two with shotguns. Just
rip them to pieces. Yeah no, no, no pistol, single
headshot no like yeah, just an absolute mess slaughter the
victims included. So they were trying to hit Moran, who
was the leader of the North Side gang, right, Uh,
because him and Capone had a deal that went south,
mafia shit blah blah blah. So they set him up
there like there's a whiskey shipment coming in, Hey, and
you gotta get to this garage see and get the whisky.
And Moran sends his men. Moran sends some of his
men to go see it. He's not there. The ambush
happens to the guys are dressed like cops. The killers
are just like cops, like, yeah, no, And then they
put him in the fucking garage and blow their fucking
brains out.
Speaker 4: What year do you think we lost that voice as
the whites?
Speaker 1: I think, you know, just mass media really killed the local,
the local dialects, right, So the more TV and radio,
the less people like. And because you don't want that
on the radio, you don't want to be like you
don't want your local news to be like you know today, man, finally,
five children run over by trolley cons Hey, Like you
want I do like that? You want you want to
like five children run over by trolley car today? It
just chills you out.
Speaker 3: I think it was what's the name of the comic?
He's huge right now? He does Trump Shane Gillis. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it's a Shane Gillis bit that I
saw recently in the form of a clip on fucking Instagram.
He says, we lost that accent. Uh the first time
Jackie Robinson stepped up to the plate right and got
a hit he did.
Speaker 4: Uh, But I genuinely want to know that question, like
how it.
Speaker 1: Got phased out.
Speaker 3: No, it is fascinating because like that what an insane
way of speaking that I that I'm I love hearing it,
but like it also would be pretty frustrating to try
to decipher what people were saying if we still went
with that.
Speaker 1: Says it largely ended by nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called the and the ha. Like I guess
world War two. World War two really kicked it out
of us.
Speaker 1: Everyone starts mixing more. The regions get yeah erased because
everyone's gonna go over to Europe except Dan's grandpa. And uh, he.
Speaker 4: Wasn't alive really, or I mean he was alive, but
he wasn't of age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just working that arm out. That was
a loss though for the whites, because that was like
the most that was the most swag we ever had.
It's a great voice phonically it's a it's a great voice.
And now it's just like the only things that are
left are like Boston and the South. Yeah, but even
in the South, that's there's no consistency anymore. Yeah, you
get like the sort of like fruity South Carolina, like
Lindsey Graham type of asset, and then you just get
like the I guess, like the texts a lot drawl.
Speaker 3: Which even that you only find if you go out
to like the actual country, right, Like you're not going
to run into a lot of people in Austin. You
know that store Houston, the ranch gall is probably more,
but it's a fake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, criminals essentially.
Speaker 1: So the victims of the massacre included Uh. Moran wasn't there,
but his brother in law, James Clark, was killed, along
with the gang's bookkeeper Adam Hayer, another guy uh who
worked for them, Albert weinshank U, two enforcers, Frank Gusenberg
and Peter Gusenberg. So I guess the Gusenberg brothers were
two guys you didn't want to mess with. And then
there's the funniest one to die. I like, I have no,
I don't really have sympathy for any of these guys
because they're probably all pieces of shit. But this guy
probably wasn't a piece of shit, and he maybe deserved
to die the most. How So, his name was Ryan
Hart Schwimmer, and he was a twenty nine year old
optometrist who just liked hanging out with gang members. He
thought it was really cool. He just liked the vibe. Yeah,
he just thought it was really cool to hang out
with gang members. That was a mistake and he was like,
oh wow, could I go to your your whiskey pit,
your illegal whiskey pickup h shit? What was his last name,
Shwimmer Swimmer Like David.
Speaker 4: He was a gangster groupie.
Speaker 1: He was a gangster groupie an optometrist too, So like,
I'll give your free glasses if you let me hang
out with you.
Speaker 3: Oh man, the ultimate wanta bee. And he just got
he got.
Speaker 1: Wasted in this mess, accidentally wandered into the worst mafia
killing in US. Is the most famous mafia killing in history,
and it's just an optomic. You're just sitting like this
is so cool.
Speaker 4: We're picking up whiskey, you guys, it's illegal. Listen, God,
we're about to get whacked. We're still talking about him.
Speaker 1: That's hey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his name lives on the.
Speaker 1: Notoriety he wanted he achieved. You gotta wonder if if
anyone he was just like, oh what the I don't
want to know them?
Speaker 4: How an eye doctor?
Speaker 1: Why does he have the highest voice ever? In our
impression you can't give him? Then he doesn't.
Speaker 4: It also would be funnier if he got tortured. I
don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's the more brutal the better in his case. Oh
but yeah, I'm just I mean, it just reminds me
of that fucking tweet or whatever. Like everyone wants to
wear car Heart till they have to do car Heart ship. Yeah,
everyone wants to be a gangster till they have to
do gangster shit.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, absolutely, It's funny because like we you know,
even I admitted at the top of the show, like
I love watching Mafia Ship, like I love the Sopranos,
I love Godfather, I love Casino, I love Goodfellas. But like,
if a push came to shove, like I'm not cut
out for that.
Speaker 1: Life, no, dude.
Speaker 3: And it's in part because the value of human life
to those groups like in that lifestyle is very low.
Like now, they were just getting whacked left and I
mean they have a code, but the code is that
if you're in the game, you can be whacked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't really leave the game.
Speaker 1: And it's business, it's not personally. Actually that's not true.
Capone's partner. This doesn't really have anything to do with it.
But when I was just researching, I found a Copone's partner,
initial partner, just got lit up outside of church during
I think during this war that was going on, and
he was just like I'm out, Like he survived, but
he just got like twenty bullets and like his wife
was next to him and she almost got killed. And
he's like, you know what, al you can have it.
He bailed. He bailed and lifted to the rifled age
seventy five.
Speaker 3: I think that was rare though, Like they weren't cool
about letting you leave.
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty chill.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: One of my best friends growing up, he actually listens
to the show so shouts to you. I won't say
you by name. There are definitely some allegations amongst the
friend group with his.
Speaker 1: Father r like organized crime wise yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, went to the wed End.
Speaker 1: See we just don't have that down Italian. Yeah, very
pretty great. Oh you're an Italian guy. You own a
few garbage trucks. You gotta be in the mafia.
Speaker 4: There's more than that.
Speaker 1: But it's a stereotype and it's offensive. Yeah, I mean,
but I believe it for the reason offensive. Yeah, it's
you know, but yeah, so swimmer, swimmer gets got learns
what it learns what the life is really like in
his last moments.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's that's the abbreviated version of the story.
You could we could do a whole episode just on
the Masac, but we're here to talk about ghosts and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So here is all.
Speaker 1: The stories of the hauntings that take place around the
Saint Valentine's Day massacre site, which is in h Lincoln Park.
So this is like the aftermath. Yeah yeah, this is
to this day, this stuff happens. See I don't know
any of this.
Speaker 4: Imagine being a ghosts and having to relive getting shot
up every single day?
Speaker 1: Why would I want to imagine that? Dan? Just that's hell, Yeah,
that is the Yeah. Maybe just late later today when're
laying down, close your eyes and thinking about about that
for a while, Yeah, that's that's the type of thing.
You're into another drive by, no sicico. So the garage
where the men were lined up and shot is now gone.
I think it was torn down in the sixties. We'll
get to that in a bit. Actually, instead it's where
the garage used to be. There is now a little
grassy area between two apartments, apartment buildings. One of the
apartment that's a pressure space in Chicago too, it is
it is one of the apartment buildings, unfortunately, is a
retirement home. Oh where these ghosts apparently torment. Oh that's
that's just the worst. That's Can you.
Speaker 3: Imagine your domfa your whole life ghost get to the end,
your family sticks you in a home and it's haunted
by murdered mafia men. That's just and one really sat
up to. But maybe that's maybe that would make it
more entertaining. It would on the on the way, you know,
your last chapter in life. At least there's some exciting.
Speaker 4: Your family is not going to visit you. At least
maybe al Capone will.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, one of his mushmen showed up, yeah,
or an optometrist. Yeah, well, guys, we're supposed to be
here it's like it's a nursing home. None of us
are supposed to be here.
Speaker 4: Uh, probably just confuses it with another inmate.
Speaker 1: They're not even scared. They're just like, oh, I mean
they probably it's like they look like someone from their youth,
even you know what I mean. They're like, oh dad, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They think they're they might be getting freaky. They think
they're being loved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those retirement homes, they love to fuck.
Speaker 1: So one old guy who hangs around the site all
the time, I think who lives there, says he just
hears screams all the time. Not what I want. Yeah, well,
in your golden years, in.
Speaker 4: The twilight of your life again, are we sure that
his ghost?
Speaker 1: Well, there's another thing we'll talk screams of pleasure, moans
of that's where you really We were talking about the
this yesterday on our episode about he didn't He was like, no, moaning.
When I hear the word moan, I think of sex,
and I'm like, moan means like really it's like painfully like, yeah,
you moan when you fuck, but really like a moan
is like it could go both ways. Definitely, if you're
watching like a horror movie with subtitles.
Speaker 3: You're gonna see some moaning and not in a sex
scene with horny wise, yeah.
Speaker 4: From Harry Potter inappropriate name because she's a child.
Speaker 1: But she's not moaning sexually, even though she does sexually
harass all these.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say she's very horny, yeah, for some reason,
and everyone was just fine with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's only horny on other kids.
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, doesn't she go like she looks like
under the waters and looks at his piece, Yah piece,
hundreds of years.
Speaker 1: A long exactly right now, she's like seventy eighty years old.
Speaker 4: Well, that's old enough.
Speaker 1: She was sultry for a child. She was killed when
the Chamber of Secrets was opened down and the Chamber
of Secrets was opened in the nineteen forties. But Tom Riddle, yeah,
fucking idiot, how did moaning myrtle come into this? I'm
glad she did, don't get me wrong. I just yeah,
who moans.
Speaker 4: But the other day we were talking about ghosts that hunt,
uh the toilets in Japan.
Speaker 1: I almost gave you that episode. There's a lot there.
For some reason, there's an entire subset of ghosts in
Japan that haunt toilets. Japanese, man, they get freaky.
Speaker 4: They just theyind closed them.
Speaker 3: They got different kinks than we do, you know, Yeah,
culturally tentacles notably. Yeah, well there's a great tentacles and
toilet porn like they love to get peed on.
Speaker 1: There's a great map if you ever want to show
it on.
Speaker 4: There's one thing I know about the Japanese. They love
a good pissing, do they? I don't peep.
Speaker 1: I know they're tentacles. There's a map though. They more
scat porn. Uh No, that's Germany. That's another cut. Any
country that lost World War two.
Speaker 4: Is just yeah, that's a good point. The axis is
in shambles porn wise. Yeah, don't even talk about the Italians.
Speaker 1: I mean they switched side, so they got they got
out of it a little bit. They killed Mussolini and
hopped on our side.
Speaker 4: Not that they're very useful, but uh, Mussolini was all freak.
Speaker 1: He probably was.
Speaker 4: He was fucking Mussolini.
Speaker 1: H what do you make What makes you say that?
Speaker 4: We did an entire episode on all of his mistresses.
Speaker 3: On how horney Mussolini was a huge horned dogs.
Speaker 1: Wow. I think he was just Italian. Yeah, like really.
Speaker 4: Actually that's just baseline for Italian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's yeah horny to an American, but to
an Italian that's just like, yeah, you you have your
like lunch, You have lunch, and then like a little
coffee like an espresso after lunch, and then you your
nineteen year old mistress and that's just part of the menu.
That's just life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, since we brought it up, why are our American
like kink stereotypes so lame for lack of a better word,
compared to like all these other countries where they're doing
like the tentacle porn, Like we we all we did
was just like slap step in front of everything, and
we know it's fake.
Speaker 1: We know it's fake. Yeah, none of these people are
fucking related by blood or otherwise not legally. Yeah. Also,
why is that the country's kinks.
Speaker 4: Porn for like the British, that's just that's the standard
for them anyway, that this shit used to just.
Speaker 1: Be funny to me. And then I became a step
dad and I was like, oh no, well, I don't
think is step dad porn really that it's.
Speaker 3: Not nearly as prevalent. There's a lot of step brother
and all these people are getting stuck. That's what they do.
They get stuck in the washing and they get stuck
under the couch. That's what we came up with. The
Japanese are over there getting full on every orifice filled
by an octopus, and we're over here.
Speaker 4: Doing But also, how did these women make it this
far in life? Like he was getting stuck everywhere they go.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but very weird to your point. There's
a certain amount of creativity that we put into them,
gave to them I think by nuking them. And I
was what I was gonna bring underlock their sexuality, Yeah,
what I was gonna bring up. Yeah, we really like
the atoms that we split, we could also split open
their libido.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we newtered them with nuclear power.
Speaker 1: But there's there's a map from uh we have showed
showt it on a show before, but there's a map
of fallout from Noble over Sweden, because that's where it
went up over floated over there, It floated over there.
The particles, the parts that got hit with it. Their
number one porn search is hen Tie. What the hell?
Everything else is like step and or like anal And
then that area. HINTI hen tie.
Speaker 4: So you become radioactive, you become a beast.
Speaker 1: It just changes, it changes on your DNA level. Yeah,
something is like breed with an octopus. Huh. Yeah, we're
pretty tame over here, man. We just the milf and step.
Maybe if you want someone go roll around on three
Mile Island and tell us see what happens.
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get because they keeps banning porn everywhere,
so people are gonna go to other websites that they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Maybe the microplastics will do something. Gire's more than one
way to unlock your inner desires.
Speaker 4: Do you think eventually, though, we'll have so many micropustics
in our balls, it'll just kind of come out as
we release.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That's one of the stories that I've seen obviously bubble
up over the past of the year that I just
refused to ever look into it.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like phyroplastics.
Speaker 3: In our balls references on Twitter, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm going to pass. You know,
I just don't want to know your balls work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well do you care?
Speaker 1: I think they're fine. Yeah, I don't want to know.
I don't miss whatever those microplastics are doing. If anything,
it's making me more viral.
Speaker 4: You know what it is. We seek truth, but certain
times I feel.
Speaker 1: Like we have too much truth, just too much information.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want things.
Speaker 3: There is no truth anymore, Dan, there is no truth.
Truth has been decimated by the Internet.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm a truth seeker.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: There are just different opinions, all of which are equally correct,
regardless of facts. Yeah, and it's just personal feelings.
Speaker 1: That are viritten. Now. Believe in the vibe economy, yeah,
or a vibe session. Microplastics made you more.
Speaker 4: Viral, viral, viral, well viral than viral potent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, police, Yeah, I don't. I don't miss.
Speaker 4: Because if you're viril then you produce more children who
then go viral when you exploit them on their YouTube channels.
Speaker 1: We don't have real farms, content farms to do anymore,
so now the children work the content farms. Content. I
hate just because we're there. I I I hate Big
Justice and all those little fat kids. I need to
go on the record, I hate them all.
Speaker 3: I just want everybody listening to know that I can't
stand those people. I feel like this is a new
low point for our country. And I say this as
a person who was a huge fan of the first
three seasons of Jersey.
Speaker 1: Shore that they're horrific, Like they're I don't know if
Foo though, don't care, there might be, I mean all
the streamers in general. My my theory on that is like,
it's all fun for that family now, but like one
of those kids in like eight years is going to
catch like horrific charges and it's gonna be like, oh,
the like Mike Ake, Mike the Rizzler, Dionado or whatever
the fuck their name, you know what I mean, rizzlers
not even in the family. Oh god, it was an
individual that got brought into the family.
Speaker 4: He's like, he's like an oople loop.
Speaker 1: It's I'm telling you, they just steal.
Speaker 4: Him from another land.
Speaker 3: The fact that everybody could see it coming, we all
know twenty years from now what's gonna happens is insane.
Speaker 1: Well, first it's the charges, then later it's an od
I mean, it's just it's you can see the playbook.
Speaker 3: That's if he makes it there, they're just pumping him
full of Costco food.
Speaker 1: That's also true, you know, not eating enough for tissery chickens,
it's all cookies and whatever the fuck else they put it. Anyway,
I'm out on those people. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: Just the general direction the internet's going, I'm out on Yeah.
I want to get out.
Speaker 1: The internet has probably jumped the shark.
Speaker 4: I would say, like a long time in the last decade,
you truly did.
Speaker 1: I see, like fifteen sixteen, it.
Speaker 3: Was over Jesus, dude, fucking for when we were that age,
fifteen sixteen, oh, twenty sixteen. I was gonna say, like postraphy,
that was the that was the high point one.
Speaker 4: He's horrifying right now. I just saw last night. I
had to turn off the app. I went immediately to sleep,
and I was hunt in my dreams. I saw aborted
baby just came up on my fucking timeline.
Speaker 1: Dude, it's a mess in there. You gotta be real careful.
But that's curating to what you want.
Speaker 3: No, it's not, Yeah, it is trust It is not
what you want, but what it thinks you want. I
don't want that, but you're giving it those vibes. Somehow
you gave it the impression.
Speaker 4: I've I've seen people getting mrked on the streets and
this was in no way am I ever touching the
abortion issue.
Speaker 3: Abortions all politics, all the time. And you know what,
I don't want politics politics. I don't either, but I
swear to God my phone like, here's a political commercial
coming from the TV, and it's like, serve this fucker
up every fucking Kamala and Trump clip we have available
today and mix in twenty six Costco guys videos and
I'm like, what is this is? This is why people
are depressed and anxious and miserable. Anyway, back to our story,
but better I'm out on the Costco guys in Big Justice.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're on the record for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for giving me this space. So another
like I said, these ghosts haunt in large part a
nursing home. So at one point, sure you did, Grandpa,
Well that literally did. That's literally what I'm about to
tell you. So at one point, this woman with dementia
kept complating this man in pinstriped suits and hats in
my room. They won't leave me alone. Fuck, And they
were like it's like the meme like okay, grandma, let's
get you to and she just kept.
Speaker 3: Be like get away from me. Now they give her
another pill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so eventually they're like, oh my god, this
fucking bitch who's brain doesn't work will not shut up
about the guys in pins drive suits. Let's just move her.
Let's just put someone less crazy in this room. We'll
move her. So they put a patient without dementia in
the room and he's like a bunch of guys with
fedora hats just walked in here, so that what would
we The bench was like, no, it's real. I tried,
but they were like, yeah, whatever, dude, They're like, okay, grandma,
whatever you say.
Speaker 4: The fedora has also been co opted by the week,
like it used to be a signal of strength.
Speaker 1: Well it's gone now.
Speaker 3: But when we were there, back in the air where
everyone said okay, she ain't yeah, there was then Fadoras
were for badasses.
Speaker 4: Now it's ironic.
Speaker 1: Is anyone wearing for doors now?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: I feel like that they're out.
Speaker 4: Uh maybe somebody who's like juggling on the quad.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's all gone now. I think we
shamed those people out of it.
Speaker 1: It was a big like twenty ten, twenty Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was the guy that yeah cycle oh goddors had
made some kind of weird comeback when we were the
tail end of our collegiate careers, and that was some
weird that was It was terrifying to see.
Speaker 1: And none of them would have been none of them
would have been made men. No, No, I really want
to know, Like I want to like interview, just like
women like who fucked a guy who was wearing a
fedora that night? Put them on the list, like I
want to know, actually put them on the no fly list.
What I was like, because there's no way you found
that attractive? So what how? What overweight? Outweight? How did
you work around?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Aura, what he did?
Speaker 1: He was? He wearing a tight T shirt and you
could just see like rippling six pack and you're like, okay,
the hat, I can see past the fedora. Yeah I
want to know. But yeah, so the grandma was like
please and finally they believed her after it.
Speaker 4: Non, what about like a havana hat.
Speaker 1: It's like the same, Oh, no, there there are It's
just a straw fedora. Basically, it's like we're on vacation.
I guess you can wear Justify. You can pull that off.
The only place you can pull any of that ship
off is at the Kentucky Derby. So that's pretty much.
Speaker 4: It because you're essentially going back because you're.
Speaker 3: Just surrounded by other people who also look insane. Yeah,
that's what you need.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: There are also also pretty standard ghost reports from the area.
People hear men's voices when there's no one around. You
can hear also literally basically the the event being re enacted.
You'll just hear like.
Speaker 4: I'm an aptamtress.
Speaker 1: Oh god, please, that's not what you want.
Speaker 3: But that also could just be like Chicago, dude, I
can also do all these ghost stories. Uh, they always
if one thing happened at my house. Just if one
night I was laying there and heard somebody, you know,
yell like I'm an optomatris please and gunfire, that would
be it. I wouldn't the next day, I wouldn't be like,
I'm pretty worried about what happened last night. I hope
it doesn't happen again. It would just take the one
haunting for me to abandon the entire and burn it
to the ground and move on and start somewhere.
Speaker 4: And you're not even gonna try to resell because you
got to disclose that information to the realitor.
Speaker 1: Do haunted there's no mold. Well I don't. I'm not
putting that on somebody else.
Speaker 3: Just move some other fucking poor family in there, and
then they get haunted and their lives destroyed. No, you
gotta get out.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to get in with the fucking ghost mafia.
Speaker 1: Try to try to make a connection. Yeah, just see
how Yeah, yeah, it seems like a benefit. I don't
think they have a lot of power, not these days now.
Speaker 3: No, it's the main mistake people making these scary movies.
They try to write it out, Oh maybe it'll get better.
Speaker 1: Right, or they try to outsmart the ghost.
Speaker 4: They try to ignore it for the most part. But
you need to kind of come to common ground.
Speaker 1: You gotta reach out.
Speaker 4: You gotta reach out and extending olive branch to the ghost.
Speaker 1: Uh. And then my favorite thing that happens is with
this in the again, the where the garage used to
be is an open grassy space. Now when it snows
in Chicago, Uh, you can sometimes see the outline allegedly
of seven bodies snow where the garage used to be. Yeah, soges.
I don't know if it's like a lump like the
snow's covering the bodies, or if it's like the body
to the snow. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what the
deal is, but uh yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean that could also just be a modern body again.
Speaker 1: In Chicago, so that you don't really know, like that
happened in Saint Louis, or I'd be like, well, let's
brush the snow off and see what's.
Speaker 3: There, shytown stand up. I love Chicago, by the way.
It's my favorite city in the US to visit. It's
a great American, huge fan.
Speaker 1: Now's the time. It's like perfect in the summer and
fall winter. Don't just don't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I should have been clear about that.
I will not go when it is cold and windy.
Speaker 1: It's good. Four months good, like six months. You go
to Wrigley Field and for a fucking game and shit
like that. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's glorious. But you go
in to a soldier field for a game and you
want to kill yourself.
Speaker 3: Also, stay the hell away from this old folks home.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. And actually the other funny thing, or I
guess if you want to call it funny, I think
it's funny. Uh you's got a laugh to keep from crying.
Exactly this particular old folks home is it's like a
owned by the city. It's for like poor people, it's
for old people who can't even afford it's like public
elderly house. Oh hell, he's fucking this is as bad
as it possibly can do it literally, yeah, Jesus. And
the city actually owns the site and it said they
will never build anything on that where the garage was again,
it will just remain open forever, trying to air it out.
I guess, yes. See if many they have now it
you have little kids.
Speaker 4: Play on it, fucking throw football. It just goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The children go to visit their demented old grandparents and
then they go out on the haunted lawn to play
touch with me Grandpa.
Speaker 4: That's the ball just gets deflated because a bullet hits
oh god, yeah, a ghost bullet.
Speaker 1: When the garage was raised by the way, when it
was taken down, uh oh, and the other building, the
other apartment next to it on the other side, reports
of like poltergeist activity like ship flying off the shelves, encounters,
but no no figures or anything like that, allegedly, But anyway,
the garage was torn down in the sixties. Uh, and
the bricks from the building became collector's items. People wanted
the specifically of the wall they were lined up against
and shot it's dead.
Speaker 3: That's that's almost as weird as people who collect like
Nazi paraphernalia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although I will say I just learned the other
day that Hitler had a gold Walter PPK. Walter PPK,
like the James Bond gun from Cold Night What Yeah,
with AH on the handle, the.
Speaker 3: Fucking initials on it. Yeah, see, like that's a haunted
gun though, Oh it's yeah. I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Michael, he did all the occult stuff too.
Speaker 4: He was like searching for like the spear of destiny.
He's got some like things from ancient civilizations that I'd
be down to get.
Speaker 1: So, you know what, I just don't. But that's not
Nazi paraphernalia. That's Jesus paraphernalia that the Nazis held on
to for a little bit.
Speaker 3: I just don't want to. I don't want to learn
anything new period, no about Hitler. I don't want to
learn new stuff about.
Speaker 4: Hitler his parents as much as.
Speaker 1: I need to know about Hitler.
Speaker 3: I feel like people these days are like fascinated with
fucking Hitler facts and I just don't.
Speaker 1: It's because it's the only other than the goldwaalter Well,
I mean that's just like I don't even know about
like his philosophies or like you know what I mean,
Like what did he say.
Speaker 4: About Yeah, No, Hitler didn't have a point guys, Yeah
there was no point.
Speaker 1: In case we need to reiterate this. But it's all
it's always it's kind.
Speaker 3: Of like the he does need to be reiterated apparently.
Speaker 1: I know. It was kind of like the inverse of
people being like, what was Michael Jordan that good? I don't.
I don't know. I didn't see any I didn't see
him play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the most contrariant opinion you can possibly have,
which is why, like when Kanye threw it out there,
I was just like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.
Speaker 1: You know, my joke to him every once in a while. No,
I really don't.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, but you got the easies on, Yeah,
because I love these shoes. Listen, every fashion designer has
some skeletons in the closet.
Speaker 3: All right, you can't only well you should try, but
you can't only buy stuff from non shitty people.
Speaker 1: It's impossible.
Speaker 4: I would never the shittiest of people make the best product.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would never point that out or be like,
oh you from this, unless someone was shitting on me
for it, and then I'd be like.
Speaker 3: But in fairness, this is the only pair of yeasies
I've bought in like three years.
Speaker 4: Used to be a big easyhead.
Speaker 1: I know. I have a lot of them in my closet.
My joke about Kanye West is that this is what happened,
This is what would have happened if no one shot
John Lennon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably that's where he was headed. You just get
to a certain point where you're like, well, I can't
possibly get any more attention, so I have to find
a way.
Speaker 4: Right. Do you believe the conspiracy that he's been replaced
by a clone?
Speaker 1: No? Okay, No, He's just he's detached from reality and
not on medication, probably diagnosed bipolar.
Speaker 4: Is it weird though that I will still listen to
Kanye when I work out, But ever since Kendrick kind
of buried Drake, I have a hard time thrown on Drake.
Speaker 1: Any Drake song comes on now, So I just feel
like a little gay. I'm just like I feel. I
feel like I feel, I feel soft.
Speaker 4: I feel like a bitch. I'm like, this doesn't get
me like I used to.
Speaker 1: No, I'm the same way. It's embarrassing, but it was
always soft. I know.
Speaker 4: That's what's so stupid about it. It's very dumb.
Speaker 1: It makes I knew it like you woke up like
whoa Drake isn't hard?
Speaker 3: For years, my Spotify rap would come out and Drake
would be in the top five. Always to look at
myself in the mirror and be self loathing and feel
hatred toward who I am.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't, though, because he's got nothing but the most
basic bitch in the world. And it's formulaic now.
Speaker 1: And then Kendrick buried.
Speaker 3: Him, and now when his songs come on, I'm like,
I can't even do this anymore. I need to be
a better man. Ken you made me want to be
a better man.
Speaker 4: Occasionally, though, a future song will come on and the
Drake versuill will pop up, and I'm like, I gotta switch,
got change up, and I'm ashamed of myself because Drake
had such a monumental you know, uh, he had such
a big part of my life.
Speaker 1: But he's not like us, you know, Dan, that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, he's definitely not like He's not like no
well in that way. So that's how Kendrick means it
real quick.
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Speaker 4: Or something, maybe try to climb the corporate ladder. So
you give the person above you the cursed bricks.
Speaker 1: So they died. Yeah, but then you move into the
office and you find the brick, and then immediately he.
Speaker 4: Passed the buck. I just keep moving up.
Speaker 1: People would also get people with the bricks would also
get in bad accidents or whatever, like honey, the toddler
fell down the stairs for the fifth time.
Speaker 4: The final destination bricks.
Speaker 3: Time to get rid of the bricks. Yeah, got to
get rid of those bricks.
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He's like, I ain't afraid it, built his own home
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Oh wow, on the cursed bricks. So imagine taking something
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going on tour all the time.
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can't be peeing on blood bricks.
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the eighties, and like, hey, this person was murdered on
this carpet. Do you want to piss on it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't want to piss on dead people's stuff. No,
I do love the idea of taking a bunch of
cursed mafia murder bricks and making a club. Yeah, but
what then that wasn't a good enough idea. He was like,
you know what, let's let's get even fucking sicker with it.
If if it's the bathroom.
Speaker 1: And dudes piss on it.
Speaker 4: The mafia bricks though, they just have a funny sense
of humor, and you do piss on it, and they're
just like, we're just gonna make your dick smaller.
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Speaker 4: Know, I think it's more chill. It's just like you
can never get hard again. You're just rocking kind of
a nub. It's like what happened to my penis.
Speaker 3: It'd be like seventy percent of society already though, you'd
just be another.
Speaker 1: One that's like a Stephen King right, like a Gypsy's
just like softer, softer, flaccid. So that bar closed down
and uh shocking. Yeah, it didn't work. This guy actually
had several failed business ventures with the bricks they're now
actually structing. Kept going, you kept several things double down,
tried to tried to make a mafia museum that failed,
don't admit, to try to take him on tour, and
no one wanted to see him persistently, yea, so they
cursed his businesses.
Speaker 3: He was so confident these bricks were his thing, Yeah,
and this is how he was gonna make his ticket,
and they just kept failing and he couldn't stop.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, now those bricks are actually in the Mob Museum
in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: Struck it into a wall, so you can go see them.
Do we do, either of y'all know? Off the top
where the Mafia Museum in Vegas is.
Speaker 1: I didn't look it up. I've only been to Vegas once,
so I'm not a big Vegas guy, I don't know
that offstrip. I wish I had been to that because
that sounds tight.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. It seems like something that would be on
the Strip, the veg the.
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Mob Museum. They have like a speakeasy in
there and everything. Ship that's where the bricks should be.
Speaker 4: Is that like New York, New York.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's in downtown Vegas.
Speaker 4: That what that doesn't mean anything?
Speaker 1: It says down. I mean the map says downtown Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: So strip.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's the Strip, but it's just
right in the heart of the city, like it is
right dead ass center on the city. What do you
want the address? Dan? Like you fucking know it?
Speaker 4: What are you gonna you could tell me a building?
It's in like a casino.
Speaker 1: It's in its own building stand alone. Yeah, it's across
the street from the Grand Hotel and Casino. Do you
think any casino would let him bring those fucking bricks
in there? Every slot's just fucking jackpie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, hell no, they're really uh uh, what's the
word I'm looking for? When you believe in luck, superstitious,
they're real superstitious up in those casinos.
Speaker 4: Dan, I don't think they are, though. I think everything's calculated.
Speaker 1: For you to lose.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the house always wins unless the house has
blood bricks in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's one more ghost story, haunting story from
the Saint Valentine's a massacre and it involves al Capone
himself Alphonse. So Alphonse was arrested I believe in Philadelphia
actually shortly after the massacre on a concealed weapon charge
or something like that. But I didn't even know existed
at the time.
Speaker 4: His dick did get cursed eventually.
Speaker 1: I think he actually already had the cyphilis at this point.
It just takes a it takes a while to get
into it. We don't get it in like hops right
into your brain. Died of right, Yeah, syphilis, Yeah, it's
it seeps into you.
Speaker 4: How does that break you down? I guess I've never
really looked into it.
Speaker 1: It just like gets into is that a sting because
I don't treat it? Get syphilis, but you just take
like a pill and it's fine. And he could have
actually had it treated too, but he was too embarrassed.
But he was like, oh, I don't want people to
know I have syphilis. It's like, well everyone knows now
because you're fucking insane. What a classic issue.
Speaker 3: Man who doesn't want to talk to doctor about problem
he has that will eventually kill him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, dude, that's fucking health two point zero.
Speaker 3: Just keeping it, keeping it in, not ever revealing the
issue or getting help. Don't seek help. That's the message.
Speaker 1: You can beat this.
Speaker 4: That's fucking propaganda. Ross. You can take care of it
with diet.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I think it's. Yeah, we need you need
to believe in people. You can beat this, man, I
got you. But so Capone was arrested for this gun
charge or whatever, did some time in Philadelphia and in
a very lavish prison cell. I think it's the prison cell,
the famous one you see pictures of with like the
radio in it and shit, oh yeah before I think
that's the one. I'm not positive either way. Anytime he
was ever in a prison cell, they did it up
for it, like here he goes turn it into a
hotel room basically. Yeah. So the story goes that as
soon as he got into jail, Capone was immediately haunted,
tormented by the ghost of James Clark, one of the
victims of the Saint Valentine's Day massacre. Oh shit, not Shwimmer. Unfortunately,
Clark was Moran's brother in law, and according to legend,
at night the other inmates would hear Capone screaming and
being like, leave me alone, Jimmy stop. Oh Jimmy, this
ghost is just like fucking with them all night long.
I'm sorry, Jimmy. Look here, Yeah, that's got business eye.
But in the morning, the prisoners would be like, hey,
al okay man the radio on last night, what's going
on in there? And he would just be like, I'm
not don't want to talk about it. I don't know,
I don't want to, don't shut up, don't ask me questions.
They could stop.
Speaker 3: Alphonse was not a good communicator, wasn't good at sharing,
clearly bottled it all up until it killed him.
Speaker 4: Every great man refuses to admit they had a supernatural experience. Yeah,
Napoleon went to the Pyramids and apparently stayed in the
emperor or the pharaoh's pharaoh's tomb, and something happened to
this day, like and on his deathbed, he's just like,
don't worry about it, Like, I'm gonna take that to
the grave.
Speaker 3: Since you brought it up, and I'm pretty sure y'all
talked about this, But did y'all y'all watch the Napoleon
movie the Ridley Sky, Yeah, don't. You don't need to
waste your time. But I was like, one day I
just broke. I was like, no, no, I have to see. Yeah,
I have to see. And it is like Joaquin Phoenix
mailed mailed it in as hard.
Speaker 1: As you possibly could.
Speaker 3: It's almost I almost recommend watching it at some point,
like if you have like a sick day or something.
Speaker 4: They had to read around how he's acting.
Speaker 1: And they didn't have to. Ridley Scott was like, this
is fucking brilliant and started just sculpting.
Speaker 4: I heard the complete opposite. Scott was like, fuck, woquing
Phoenix is too far gone. I can't I can't reel
him in. So I got to write around it. I don't.
Speaker 3: Maybe you do have to watch it because I don't
even know if I can explain. It's just it's kind
of fascinating. I kind of always wanted to see a
movie about Napoleon. Same I heard woquing Phoenix is doing it,
and I was like, holy shit, Ridley's God, holy shit
comes out you see all the bad reviews and whatnot,
and they were all accurate. Like it is a total
dumpster fire, an utter waste of money and time. And
there's like like an extended director's cut version. Joker toutes
apparently awful too, Like I've not heard good things about
that either. He's like he's he's a wild dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's got a.
Speaker 1: Weird, weird past, like how he.
Speaker 3: Grew up when his brother overdosed in that club or whatever.
Speaker 4: Oh no, how he his parents raised them in that church.
Speaker 1: Where yeah, yeah, they were a cult. And then also
like he's a child star. Yeah, in a child star.
It's like the Phoenixes are basically like the like punk
rock Coulkins.
Speaker 3: It's tough to be normal, Yeah, living that way your
whole life.
Speaker 4: I think his parents like him or something.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Napoleon, what Napoleon is a is such a failure
on so many levels.
Speaker 1: That movie deserves so much better.
Speaker 4: I still have so much hope for a Gladiator too.
Speaker 3: I've heard it's amazing, Like I've heard great, great, great things.
Speaker 4: He's bounced back. It's good to see get one.
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of l's in a row. Yeah,
we need to get years old. You know, he's just
trying to stay alive by making movies at this point.
Speaker 3: Him and uh, what's the dude who did fucking uh?
Oh my god, what's this insane movie that's in theaters
right now?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Uh the woman?
Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Coppola are out there just trying to
keep themselves alive by cranking out early movies.
Speaker 1: Megalopolis makes Napoleon look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw something like insane scene I
think with Aubrey Plaza.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back to the clube. Was it that scene? No,
I have seen that scene.
Speaker 4: No, it's like a sex scene. Oh yeah, I mean
I'll watch it for that. I don't even know if
she's in the movie.
Speaker 3: But like she thought, it looks like I will be
watching that when it hits streaming. I will not be
paying sixty eight dollars to see it in theaters.
Speaker 1: I eat in there, Dan.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I get that, and then you know you
gotta pay for the tickets. It's it's a whole night's
it's a thing, especially with the family. I mean, if
you're going on a date, you're spending with the alcohol,
the food, close to one hundred bucks every time Bube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, easily.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Napoleon sucked. Sorry for the sound.
Speaker 4: It's all good, but with such low expectations, maybe I'll
actually like it because there had to be some dope
battle scenes.
Speaker 1: The battle scenes I've watched on YouTube now in a mid.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, it's all right, thoroughly disappointing through. Yeah,
there's not a lot of redeeming moments in that thing.
Speaker 1: So apparently the inmates would also hear like I guess
like even Jimmy got tired of just tormenting him, so
they chat sometimes too. They just like, I'm just tired today.
What was the score of the Cubs game? Give me,
give me some updates from the world. Yeah, they just
talk and again I'll be like, I don't want to talk
about it. But eventually Al gets out and he's like
I can't and Jimmy follows him, just follow him around
for the rest of his life. And Al was like,
I can't fucking take this anymore. Hires a psychic to
try to exercise Jimmy away from.
Speaker 4: Him in prison.
Speaker 1: No, this is outside of prison. Jimmy follows him out
of prison, follows him everywhere.
Speaker 3: Aw gets out Jimmy gets out just like you're a burger,
You're a fucking dick, dude, And so he gets a
psychic to try to like exercise to send him to
the other side.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work, Jimmy hangs around. Uh to the point where
later in life, Al Capone's bodyguards would often rush into
his bedroom at night, hearing him screaming and shit at
Jimmy thinking he was like being attacked and there's just
be no one there about a Capone.
Speaker 3: Okay, So just to get to get real about it
for a second. You hear a lot of stories like
this about like mafia dudes. And there's even in the
Sopranos there's a storyline where Polly Gultieri goes to a
psychic like a seance because he keeps having this nightmare
every night and waking up at three point thirty three
in the morning.
Speaker 1: And when he goes to.
Speaker 3: The seance, the psychic basically tells him long story short,
everyone you've ever murdered is like following you, Like all
these ghosts are following you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Polli has like a meltdown, calls it like a satanic
black magic, and like throws a chair and runs out anyway.
Point being, it feels like stories like this about Capone,
like Capone had a lot of people killed, right, a
lot of blood, a lot of blood on his hands.
And I don't care how sociopathic or like sick you are,
it does something to you. It's gonna break you down
slowly but surely, like the guilt you would carry from,
like all of your sins would get to you. And
sometimes I think stuff like this, stories like that are
like a like a personification.
Speaker 1: Of all that guilt.
Speaker 3: Like you you literally start to detach from reality because.
Speaker 1: And he also does have cyphlis rotting his brain, and
that too did not help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so like yeah, it's like I think a
lot of those stories are rooted in something real and
that is like guilt and shame and because that shit
does bad things to your brain.
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I learned from the Sopranos. That
and also apparently the Mafia think says Geddy eat pussy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, you can't can't go down South Mexico.
Speaker 4: We actually a weak man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a weird viewpoint that was?
Speaker 3: That just that that permeated everywhere too, because I remember
that in like high school, that was a thing like
you didn't want to talk about eating box because that
was frowned upon.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I don't know why I was doing it.
Speaker 4: I want the record to show Yeah, I'm pro munch
in box. Yeah, actually an article about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 3: Actually, it's very enjoyable, very whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was worse back then, especially.
Speaker 4: When you, like I par piece, You're like, oh, yeah, dude,
I gotta gotta do what I can with this tongue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the way it is, got a
It's a lot of like battlefield prep. Really, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Anyway, I don't know if Capone
uh felt guilty or not. Let me put it this way.
I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a ghost, never had a ghost experience,
So I'm not sure how I feel about the existence
of ghosts and hauntings. But I do think a lot
of these stories have something to them, that is my point.
Speaker 1: The only the thing I find interesting is that I
feel like a lot of people get like after a while,
they get guilty or maybe feel guilty about it. But
this happened like halfway through his career, so it just
kept fucking going. Yeah yea yeah, yeah yeah, like it
was it was he this this was just a brief
stint in jail. Like he got out and like kept cooking,
went back to the crime. Yeah yeah yeah. Well once
you're deep, you know, and he was deep. What you
you can't turn back now, can't go just live a
straight life, keep being again. Officially he got really let
out of jail because he was just so fucking crazy
off the syphilis. They just let him go live in
Florida till he died. No ship, Yeah if he died
on the beach, dude, like he was. He kind of
had a nice little life there there.
Speaker 3: It wasn't it like he got he got popped for
tax evasion eventually. They always didn't even get him on
like murder and racketeering.
Speaker 1: Now, I just wanted to get him behind bars. Pay
your taxes, Kean, looking at you, Dan, pay your taxes, Dan.
We don't kill any if you do. If you don't
pay your taxes, don't murder anyone, right right? That also
important to do both. And if you get syphilis, see
a doctor, get the help, you take that pill you deserve.
They can take care of these things these days. Sores
on your penis are real. It's like a one pill
and it's like, oh, it's gone. See today's episode comes
with life lessons does always that. But that's all I
got for today, the hauntings of the Saint Valentine's Day massacre.
What you boys learn today, make good choices, get check
ups regularly.
Speaker 4: I learned if somebody offers you a curse brick, you
avoid that. Purchase a brick.
Speaker 1: With a hole in it. Stay away from cursed bricks. Yeah,
that's huge. Maybe. Uh, don't hang out with gangsters if
you're not one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're you're not in that life. You're optometrists. Don't
pretend to be in that life. Yeah yeah, No, take
up skydiving if you need to thrill that back. That's
an all in or all out thing. Not you can't.
Speaker 3: On the edge of organized crime does not end well
for anyone. It's a lot of those characters in the
Sopranos too. In fact, I think one of them is
an optometrist. He like sells glasses and sunglasses and ship.
It's like Johnny Sack's son in law.
Speaker 1: I mean they probably pulled straight from ship like this. Yeah, honestly, Uh,
and then who is so you mentioned earlier. I don't
know if you know this about the show, So you
eOne always talks about Hitler. Our joke on the show
is because Hitler is like the only person bad person
from history anyone ever knows about. Yeah, everyone's fucking dumb,
the villain of to every we ask who is today's Hitler?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so they'll call anything Hitler because that's the
only person I've ever heard that's.
Speaker 1: Like the biggest human comparison.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the story, Now, who is the worst person
in the story?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, probably Capone? Well yeah, I mean he was
kind of the main guy. Yeah, I'm gonna go with
the nursing home attendants who didn't believe the one dimension
being tormented by worse than al Capone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, or the guy that talked the optometrist to
kind of hang around.
Speaker 3: The optometrist is his own Hitler. Whoever was enabling the optometrist.
That's the Hitler in the story for me. I wonder
if they just like didn't even like him.
Speaker 4: Uh Man seeks to be an alpha. That's the Hitler
of the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels weak, He's like I just do glasses.
Speaker 3: Beta Man desperately wants alpha approval.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gets it. That's never Yeah, it's never. That never
ends well either, No, historically, Oh hey guys, I'm pretty
what do you need pretty tough? And then they don't
and then they don't respect to you, so you start
to do crazy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean this was back in the day. So it
was his version of paying a Navy seal to haze
him for a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fucking are you referencing Tiger Woods?
Speaker 4: Well, Tiger did do that, Yeah, for.
Speaker 1: Like a long time.
Speaker 4: That kind of broke his body. Yeah, it was a
really bad idea. Told him, you can pay a navy
seal to go to like a boot camp, a fake
boot camp, to be a real man.
Speaker 1: I'll just yell at you until you're an alpha male?
Is that what Dan Bilzarian did? I think so, speaking
of people going to jail for financial crime, yeah, his
dad's going back for sure.
Speaker 3: He's fucked for sure, absolutely toast.
Speaker 4: I think the funniest part about Dan Bilzarian was he
was in the World Series of Poker this year and I
think he was out within three hands.
Speaker 1: Damn. That's yeah, it's a big story.
Speaker 3: You want to come away from the World Series of
Poker with because it's you know, many thousands of dollars
to enter, because we're here, wasn't the story because I
didn't look too far into it. He started to ignite
this weird brand, right, and then the Feds last week
or the week before indicted his dad because it turns
out his dad was actually the one running it, and
his dad is not allowed to like run it was
any type of financial.
Speaker 1: Stuff wandering fraud situation. Yeah, that business where yeah, his
dad was had his hands on like money and business
stuff that he shouldn't. But that makes Bill's Arren like
Dan culpable too, He's like fleeing the country, but yeah,
because he was part of the fraud. Basically, like they
were going to be all there was a criminal conspiracy
of which they were both apart.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot of crackdown on PPP loans
from twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I've seen that too. People are still getting popped for this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean because people straight up just lied about
having an LLC like free money.
Speaker 3: They made it really easy, yeah, to steal PPP money.
They should have made it harder. I get that, you
still shouldn't do wrong shit, even if it's that's not
an excuse necessarily.
Speaker 4: So many people got away with it though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of some some people.
Speaker 3: Not too many degrees removed from us that got like
massive PPP lungs. I think I got fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Oh I got zero. I didn't try it.
Speaker 1: We didn't. Yeah, we didn't do l yet, so we
should have. I had mine and they gave me fifteen
hundred dollars. Didn't do shit. It's nice. Yeah, you just
got an extra stimulus check. Basically that was it. But yeah,
that is all I have for today. Uh, you can
check out Ross Bowling on the Ross Bowling Podcast, Oysters,
Clams and Cockles if you want to hear them talk
more about mafia shit. From time to time, I assume
movies TV. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah what else? If
you're from Houston.
Speaker 3: I do a Houston sports show called Banging the Can
that I love doing because it's my outlet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We don't even have sponsors right now. It's just
me and there yelling for an hour every week. Yeah,
just miserable.
Speaker 4: You're like, if I'm gonna do this, I might as
well record it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, essentially, what happened fairly chill time for Houston sports.
The Astros are still good and the Texans.
Speaker 4: Texans are a Super Bowl contender, yes, but they've also
not played well a single week this year, so it's like,
wait till they do, wait till they do, I know,
but it doesn't mean the Chiefs are gonna.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Yeah, none of this matter.
Speaker 3: Chiefs got DeAndre Hopkins today, so they're like, and they
haven't lost a game, so it wouldn't even matter if
they didn't get DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Just this.
Speaker 3: Andy Reid's much better than all the other coaches I think,
on top of Patrick Mahomes being in No, that's I'm
very happy for that. I'm still having fun, don't get
me wrong. Yeah, Rob, it is a really chill time
in Houston sports. And if you want to hear me
yell about that, I do it on banging the can
every week. And thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming on, man, We appreciate it. Uh
So Yeah, check all out uh Ross's shit out. Also,
if you want to go way back at time again.
He is a New York Times best selling author of
the Total Frat Move book, Go read a Frat Book
by W. R. Bulling. I believe, Yeah, so don't you don't.
Speaker 4: Search for you people hitting you up being like, yo,
no's the when's the truth going to come out about as?
Speaker 1: I also don't know who's oh on occasion, yeah, somebody's like,
what are you going to do? Like the documentary. I'm like,
I'm not that interest that too. I don't. I don't
know if that's ever gonna happen. My mate is not
very underwell.
Speaker 3: But since you brought up the book, you know, I
don't know who gets paid off of that that sounds right,
or if like anybody's buying it's still.
Speaker 4: Don't get a check.
Speaker 3: No, I'm completely disconnected from it, and I honestly I
don't think any of the former Grandex people are connected
to it either. I think the publishing company is probably
just like collecting very minuscule amounts of money monthly. But like,
surely there are college kids out there still reading that
fucking thing on occasion.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it's like a Christmas present from like a parent,
Like what you're a joint of fraternity, Jimmy, I got
you like my dad right one Christmas when I was
working at TFM. He was like, Oh, I got you
this book like my sweet but like clueless on things
of the time. Dad, Right, I got you this book.
It's kind of like what you do. And it was
like Tucker Mac Tucker Max, Yeah, two years earlier.
Speaker 3: So somebody's getting like twelve dollars a month off the
TFM book and I don't do it.
Speaker 1: I would look into that solely for the fact that
it's still IP that.
Speaker 4: Is of value.
Speaker 1: It's out there somewhere.
Speaker 4: No, that movie kind of ruined it, right, Also.
Speaker 1: That it's better to own IP than not. Don't get
me wrong, I like money.
Speaker 3: I just it feels like it would be a wild
goose chase to figure it out.
Speaker 4: To bring this full circle back to my Hitchbot story,
the Canadians and the TFM movie and ruined everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, all comes back to Canada.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 3: Canada's always playing Canada south Park style, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. But yeah for Dan Chester and Ross Bowlin,
I'm rob Fox.
Speaker 4: You just got sauce served