Speaker 1: This is the best betting show ever. We're here to
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actionable betting information coming your way. And I swear to
God you're gonna laugh as well. Art, Caesar, Jovenary, Welcome
to the show. We do this every day. I love
doing this. I'm excited. There are seven hundred NBA games
going today, a slate of college hoops. We got the Olympics.
We're gonna talk some predictive markets, our parlay of the day,
our best bets in our rundown.
Speaker 2: Art.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you right now. Were there any upsets
in college basketball well or the NBA last night that
cost the Westgates some cash or made them or may?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say UNC losing always
is gonna make the book cash. Got some straight bets
in parlays. You know, Purdue obviously got Lewis as high
as Purdue getting two too and a half game close pick,
so we actually saw pretty good Purdue money. So Nebraska
making the comeback, we were thinking, Okay, maybe we're gonna steal
this game. So Purdue ended up winning by three, so
not the best result in the house. But I would
say anytime you can get UNC to lose and you
know they were picked minus one whatever it was. You know,
anytime UNC loses out right always good for the sports book.
Speaker 3: Well, there is a lot of parody.
Speaker 4: It feels like, I mean, Illinois losing last night the
Wisconsin and overtime was also crazy into Illinois. The more
and more we get like that, the more and more
of these upsets with these teams that are supposed to
be untouchable. I mean, you got Florida and Georgia going
tonight for instance, Boy, that would be another huge upset here.
Do you have guys just come in and target this
time of year, like just let's let's have it the
dogs in college basketball, because on a weekly basis leading
into March, that appears to be where the money can
be here because we're getting more and more of them
as we get closed in a March madness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially when you're deep in a conference play,
maybe you can zero in on some of the better
conferences that are deeper conferences. You're right, you know, you
look at a Georgia night. We'll talk about it in
the sharp money. There's actually been a lot of Florida
sharp money early, so that's surprising to me. But you know,
when you have a team catching a whole bunch of
points in the sec the Big ten, and they're at home,
there probably is some value on teams like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Caesar.
Speaker 1: Joining us from the Westgate art one of our listeners
A week A week A blah blah blah, he writes, Okay,
I can sleep tonight knowing the Westgate did well on Sunday.
Who freaking cares? I thought this was a betting show.
Speaker 3: Week.
Speaker 1: That was a weak, bloody comment. Bro, this is a
betting show, which is exactly why we want to know
if the bets won or lost, if the place taking
the bets made money or didn't make money. It seems
completely appropriate on this show to discuss that exact topic.
So what that said? Out of the books do last night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we did well. It's funny, Presus. I
saw that comment and I think loled it because you know,
you get to a point where I think people they
look at me like I'm the bad guy, like I'm
here just to give the wrong information. And I'll say this,
if you think me giving you information on one of
let's say, seventy college basketball games is gonna swing the
sportsbook's day. Trust me, I don't have that kind of power.
I wish I did. I don't have that kind of influence.
It's just I'm giving you the information that's in front
of me. That's all I can do. I just think
it's funny when people get to that point with oh,
well he's just trying to trick us, okay, yeah, yeah,
you know yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that guys have.
Speaker 4: They're just so they don't have actually to wear with
all or the patience to actually try and become a better,
better They're just interested in the moment. Just tell me
what I got to play, tell me what's going. They
have no interest in trying to understand, well, why how
was this bet? Where did the market go? Why did
the markt move that way? Was it profitable?
Speaker 3: Was it not?
Speaker 4: Is there something we can They're not interested. They just like,
let me just kind of just tell me what to play,
and if you're right or if you're wrong, and that's
all it matters. There is actually no long term game
plan with dudes like that, res none. They're just here
for right now.
Speaker 1: Anyway, week, I still appreciate you watching the show, and
I appreciate you commenting, so thank you for that. It
is okay to it is okay to be wrong. I
it happened to me in seventies six. I think it was. Yeah,
it was against the Russians. It's against the Russians in
seventy six. I was wrong one time, and yeah, so
I've been there a week. I understand art what's bet
more right now? NBA or college basketball?
Speaker 2: I would say college basketball. And you know, we're gonna
get into this little stretch here where the NBA ends
on Thursday, as we go into a week of NBA
All Star Games. We're still out in the NHL, so
college basketball is gonna be front and center here for
a full week with really nothing to compete. So I mean,
we're gonna be heavy on the college basketball here coming up.
But I say, even with them going against each other,
it seems to me like we take a little bit
more handle nowadays on college and I think that has
to do with just what's going on in the NBA.
You don't know who's gonna play day in and day out.
There's so much volatility with that. Unless you're gonna really
just say, hey, I'm to be the one who's gonna
sniff out when the injuries are gonna happen, when people
are gonna say all that type stuff and play the
schedule game. It's really that's kind of the way people
want to bet the NBA.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, uh, the NBA careful, careful, I just if
you're looking at you know, I think it's twofold here.
And we mentioned this the other day. You gotta be
careful with these lottery teams moving forward for the rest
of the year. There are anybody that's been watching college basketball,
Prez knows that this year's crop of players that are
going to be eligible for the draft. You know, it's
not just the number one or number two guy and
than who cares like there is legit. You know, eight
to ten guys coming out of college this year that
could change a franchise for the better. So there is
more reason for a lot of these teams. And I
notice no tanking in the NBA cordet, so never that's
why the lottery, Yeah, that's why you know, uh, you know,
ping punk balls, I get it. But the reality is you,
I mean, how would you like to great I'm a
Washington Wizards fans. I just got two legit all Stars
and you're never gonna see them play the rest of
the way. Utah is only gonna play their guys for
three quarters. Like you gotta you gotta know this ahead
of time before you start, especially betting the NBA early are.
The difference between what you're seeing overnight money versus where
it ends up is just it's crazy how much the
price difference is. You're almost nuts to bet the NBA
overnight at this particular point for what you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were a few years ago. Now now
it's absolutely made sense to get ahead of teams. Teams
like Utah literally announce a tank and still win their games.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, well, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: You can't even tank correctly in the NBA. B It's
just it is a strange, strange situation. But I will
say this, Joe, such an easy way to fix the tanking.
The team who is first out of all the non
playoff teams gets the first pick, and then the last
team onwards gets two, three, four, five, and six. It's
just it's like loading a plane back to front. There
are just so many things that are so easy to fix.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I press The problem is you need to
get the and I don't know how you do it,
and I don't think it's possible. But this generation of
NBA player, you know, could you imagine a time the
Kolby Bryant, Like if Kolbe Bryant was a part of
the Lakers and saw the shit they pulled last night
where on the second of a back to back, right
on your own home court, you got one of the
top teams that the West coming into your building. You
just lost to the backups of OKC the night before.
You think you'd have a little motivation come into the
All Star break to put you know, let's let's try.
Speaker 3: What do they do?
Speaker 4: They set everybody in that game and Wemby had twenty
five points in eight minutes to start that game. It's
a it's a thirty point blowout. And you're watching dudes
named like what Bronni. You're expecting to see Lebron and
you get Bronni James playing in the game. Drew Timmy like,
come on, man, I mean it's not even it's ridiculous.
Did you imagine Koby being like, I'm just gonna guys,
it's a scheduled loss. I'm gonna take the night off
here and schedule We're good to go. This is a
scheduled loss here tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't think why don't they just not play the
game at this point, we'll just call it a schedule.
Speaker 4: Long I'm cut the eighty two games into like, there's
no reason I have eighty two games. Then if you're
just gonna keep allowing teams to schedule that these losses,
just go ahead. Just cut it back to sixty five
games is something.
Speaker 1: You're good to go, guys, let's move our attention too
sharp bets for today art Obviously we've got an absolutely
enormous NBA card and college basketball card and yeah, some
Olympics along the way. So any important things we need
to know, any major bets being taken by you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna go NBA and then we'll go college NBA.
They took six and a half with the Hawks at
the Hornets. Man, the Hornets were laying a big number.
Their power rating has really shot up here in the
last two weeks, rightfully so. But they did take the Hawks.
Piston's at Raptors. They took under twenty four and a
half now to twenty three. They took the Blazers plus seven.
That's now five and a half. They are at Minnesota
tonight college basketball. Lasal took money at home plus thirteen.
That's now eleven and a half VCU. As I mentioned
Florida big money minus seven and a half, minus eight
and a half, it's now nine and a half at Georgia.
So they hit it twice, which you know you're approaching
almost double digits in that game. Buffalo was a one
point dog overnight. They're at ball State. They're now a
one and a half point favorite in that game off
sharp money, and then Marshall saw pretty good under money
under one fifty five, now one fifty two in that game.
I believe they're playing Old Dominion.
Speaker 3: Kind of crazy off the off the beaten pass.
Speaker 4: Now, how are you seeing when it comes to overnight
money in the college basketball art? Are you seeing still
the same uh, the same amount of handle with be's
coming in overnight on college which is you know, you
gotta worry less about who's actually going to be playing
in college the next day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as opposed to the NBA.
Speaker 4: But are you seeing a lot of or is it
just the same old, same old guys bent in the
overnight lines and looking to try to push it one
way or the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually what it is. Srure, Like,
we have one account who I don't think I've ever
seen him make a bet day of game. He only bets,
only bets college overnight, right, and his stuff's pretty good.
So he bets a lot of overnight college and then
you never see him again. So it's crazy. Like you said,
he's trying to push a number maybe one way or
the other, or he's really feeling good about his information
or the spot that he's betting. So you see accounts
like that, you know, there's not a ton of overnight stuff.
I don't want to sit here and say we you
know we take hundreds of bets overnight. We really don't.
It's just, honey, you have to have overnight numbers out
because everyone else has them. That's really the way it is.
Speaker 3: Does it happen in baseball to art?
Speaker 4: Do you get a lot of overnight action guys trying
to get out in front of the number in the MLB?
Or is it about the same like in college ares
a handful of guys.
Speaker 2: I would say it's the same. You have one or
two guys who are looking to do that even too,
I mean, you know, not bait. Not that baseball has
a ton of guys who are always resting, but maybe
they're looking in that type of Well, okay, you know
these teams, this guy is a lot of day, yeah,
waiting for lineups, things of that nature. So you see
a little bit of that with our overnight baseball and listen,
that's why overnight lines are always limited, right. You know
you're not gonna get a full, you know, full bet
on an overnight market. You're just not. I mean, that's
why we have to limit the overnight bets because of.
Speaker 1: That art the caes you are joining us from the
West Gate. Guys, hit that like button, do it right now,
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Make sure to comment art. Listen, there's a very good
chance my best bet today is going to be on
the Washington Wizards. They are plus seventeen. Well, Joe, I
don't I think this is a horrible spot with Cleveland
And I'll tell you, I'll talk I'll talk about it
later in the best bet section. But Art, I want
to know, we don't see a plus seventeen very often.
Speaker 3: No, I know, for the All Star Game apprable.
Speaker 1: What type action are you taking on this game?
Speaker 2: I mean on something on something like that, press the
only bets you'll see or one of two ways. You'll
see people who take the chance with the seventeen and
then you'll have the can on all the all the
money line parlays. They're gonna lay twelve dollars with Cleveland
and put them in their five to six, seven eight teamers. Now,
I will say this, when you have the Wizards, who
are gonna be basically anywhere from seven to eight to
one on the money line, you'll see some ten dollars
bets on that, you know what I mean. You're not
gonna see nickel and dime bets on that, but you're
gonna see people who are just in the book for
the night and they're like, you know what, I'll put
twenty bucks on the Wizards. Maybe they'll win the game,
you know, I mean, you'll see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be talking about the Wizard
Cleveland game throughout the show. Joe Nira, You've got a
new segment for us predictive markets and guys, this is
this is Kelshi and the rest of them absolutely enormous
volume bet in the predictive markets on a daily basis.
We're going to tackle this, Joe, How are we doing this? Dude?
We're doing guys aren't And I have no preparation here.
We don't have a clue what Joe's plan is.
Speaker 3: So what kale us? You know?
Speaker 4: So what we've gotten over obviously the last month or so,
obviously leading into the Super Bowl? As I told you,
you know, places like Calshie and Polly Mark and now
all over the place. Their sites got crashed on the
Super Bowl Sunday because of the amount of action.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are not.
Speaker 4: They don't seem to understand the concept of it or
what it is and what's separated. What's it different from
walking into the Westgate compared to what it is here?
Speaker 3: How do you compare the odds?
Speaker 4: So let's just take a couple of these marks markets here, Prez,
and I'll get your guys thoughts on it, and then
we'll do the math and figure out if it makes sense.
Does it make more sense to go into the Westgate
and bet it with art? Is the number better there
or is it better to go through the predictive markets.
And the first one is if you were going to
better Stanley Cup champion right now, who's going to win it?
The Colorado Avalanche are your favorite? Yes, at twenty six cents.
So to put that in perspective, pres if I bet
Colorado one hundred bucks right now, I get three sixty
five in return.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: If I think the Colorado Avalanche Tampa Bay Lightning are next,
that's sixteen cents. That's a big difference between in the
future market Colorado to Tampa Bay. Who do you think
first press is gonna win it?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 4: If you were gonna bet somebody, just a guy and
win the Stanley Cup right now, is it just Colorado?
Speaker 3: And is that a cheap price in your mind right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So plus three point fifty at DK, what are you
at art, We're at Avalanche plus three hundred three to one? Okay, Okay,
So I putting all odds aside as in forget about
what's going to find the best value. Colorado is going
to win the Stanley Cup. This is a historically good
hockey team, and I don't even think they're done yet.
I think there's going to be a few trades along
the way. So I mean, from my perspective, I think
you're almost out a situation where it's Colorado in the field.
That's how much better they are than everybody else. I
don't think we've ever seen a team that is so dominant.
Now things are going to change. You know, Vegas is loaded,
and if they could get goaltending, I think Vegas from
a value perspective at plus eight hundred might be.
Speaker 3: The best bet.
Speaker 1: But man, I am not sold on their goaltending. Their
defense is lacking. But hey, the trade deadline is not
there yet, so you know, I need to reassess after
the trade deadline. But if everything stays exactly the way
it is, okay, all of out, it's Colorado or nothing.
Speaker 3: What about you, Art?
Speaker 4: Is there any value in anybody outside of Colorado to you?
Speaker 3: Do you? I mean, is it just Colorado or Bust
or the field?
Speaker 2: Like Press says, I'm with Press, I think it's I
think it's Vegas to Golden Knights. We actually have them
ten to one. Wow, I mean you look, you look
at the Knights that, yeah, we have them at ten
to one.
Speaker 4: Ten to one, Well, tell you Calsh is nine cents,
so one hundred dollar bet wins me one thousand and
forty four. So it's a it's about it's about a
nine to one bet they are at Calshi. But here's
the thing, guys, and this is the thing that makes
predictive markets totally different. If I framed it like this
art and I said, listen, I could bet Colorado right
now twenty six cents, but I don't need for the
outcome to happen to get paid because at any point
between now and actually who wins it, I can can't.
It's like a stock pras I can cash it out
at any time. So does it make sense to get
Vegas at nine?
Speaker 3: Sense?
Speaker 1: It's so interesting And.
Speaker 4: If they make a run, can I cash it out
of twenty five cents? If they make it there?
Speaker 1: So it's so interesting, guys, because the bigger question is
should you be cashing these tickets out? Rather than can
you worse you can't, I would argue that you should
never cash these tickets out. I would argue that the
whole concept of cashing tickets out is a is a
negative if you are a successful better And we talk
about this when we talk about hedging bets or arbitrage
or any of that stuff. If you if you got
a if you have a good bet in your hand,
don't muck it up by cashing it out. I never
cash out in game bets. You know, when you have
like a you know, Seattle minus five and a half
with the Super Bowl or up by fourteen, and you
can cash the bet out. No, you are leaving money
on the table if you cast these bets out.
Speaker 3: I believe you. I think you are. I'm making money
by cashing it out. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm absolutely I could bet like you said, Press, I
could get Tampa Bay Lightning at sixteen cents, Carolina ten cents,
Vegas at nine, Edmonton at eight, Minnesota at six. I
can bet all five of them and wait for them
to gain ten cents by making a run at Colorado, and.
Speaker 3: Then cash it all out and Colorado still wins.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I invested in five other teams
like you said, to the field, and I didn't have
to wait, by the way till June to cast my
money out. I could have gotten out at any time
and made a profit.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go to you because I want your
thoughts on this. So I understand what Joe is saying,
But that is a different show. That's not a sports
betting show. If you're going to be buying these tickets
and cashing them out, that's a whole different model. That's
you playing.
Speaker 4: You're an ark. That's what that pence predictive markets. That's difference.
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is that makes you a day trader.
You can make money, it's great. But if you're if
you believe that you could hit fifty four percent across
a thousand bets over a long period of time, don't
you dare cash out a bet and buck up that math?
Speaker 4: Ever, Well, no, you're never gonna get that kind of
return on a cash out bet anyway. You're only that
the numbers are awful as far as going right exactly this.
You don't have to tie up capital and wait for
the event to happen. You can actually make your profits
and move on and reinvest in something out And I got.
Speaker 3: No problem with it.
Speaker 1: It's just not what we do.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts correct?
Speaker 2: I actually think you're both right in the sense. Joe's
right when you look at futures, if you want to
bet it that way and just take your profits, like
you said, it's great for futures because if you're making
a bet, let's say early in the NHL season October, November, December,
and then, like you said, you gotta wait all the
way to mid June to catch it. You could have
four or five teams take your profit, move on, reinvest
somewhere out. So yeah, when you come to futures, I
love that because I'm a big futures player, so I
think that's great. But Press, you're right on the daily stuff.
I'll say this, and you know, obviously I'll probably get
killed in the comments for this, but if you're a
sports book and you're offering something to someone like a
cash out, it's probably not.
Speaker 3: Good for the play ye.
Speaker 1: Warranty. Yeah, that's when the blackjack dealer asks you.
Speaker 2: If you want to insurance like you no, no, you don't,
you don't do it. I totally agree. But like I said,
I think both can be right, and I think the
future stuff is definitely you could be a guy or
a girl who moves your your money into that field
and says, hey, let me just start kind of investing
in futures and taking my profit you know, week in,
you know, week out, month and month out, whatever the
case may be. I think that's a fun way to
attack futures.
Speaker 4: The only way I would do it because I don't
have to wait for somebody to get hurt.
Speaker 3: I don't I agree you buy low, you say it.
Speaker 4: So the whole point of this was due for those
that have not dove into the cow season. But you
keep hearing about it, and if you've ever wondered, well,
what the hell's the difference between that? Or why don't
I just walk in somewhere and throw it down at fandol, Well,
here's the difference. The difference is you're buying low, you're
selling high, and you you don't have to wait for
the outcome. And it sometimes I mean major league based
right art thirty three cents right now for the Dodgers
to win fourteen cents for Seattle, ten cents for New
York and your Toronto Blue Jays there, Prez, I could
bet them right now at seven cents right that they
are actually going to be the world champions this year
at seven cents. So I'm buying in right now. If
it happens at seven cents, one hundred dollar bet is
thirteen forty one. But again, my goal isn't for them
to actually run the table. My goal is for them
to get the thirty cents brands right or thirty five
cents and get the hell out and then look for
something else. But that's the whole concept of Calci and
polymarket versus Joost Joe.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and we'll get into some other stuff as well.
Kelcey Wise, what we're finding out is that the odds
are very similar, so DC as Toronto Blue Jays at
plus fourteen hundred, which is basically what you said. Yeah,
so really there is very little difference in the odds.
But the real advantage is that you can sell your
bets early. And I do like that concept in a
future's environment, but I hate that concept in a daily environment.
What other kelshake questions do you have for us?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: And you have it because when you go to different
things like, for instance, we'll go to how about crypto
for instance, because you're a big crypto here today?
Speaker 3: Ready, so right now.
Speaker 4: Will bitcoins brice today come at time of recording, we're
about twenty minutes away here from noon eastern. Right at
noon eastern, will it be over sixty six five or over.
Speaker 3: Sixty six two fifty? What do you think? How would
you bet?
Speaker 4: Is it going to continue to rise or continue to fall.
You're over the next twenty.
Speaker 1: Minutes continue to fall. I would bet under sixty sixty fifty.
Right now it is sixty six three two seven. It
was sixty seven ten minutes ago. So I think it
is going to fall. I actually think it's going to
plummet over the next few months. But that's all the question,
and I don't I'd like to be wrong on that.
Remember in nineteen seventy six against the Russians yep marked out? Today?
Is it real chance I'm wrong again today? Please let
me be wrong.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this, BRIT's how low will
bitpoint get in February below fifty seven to five or below.
Speaker 1: Sixty below fifty seven to five? Please let me be wrong?
Speaker 4: Twenty nine cents right now at that market you can
cut in and you're looking at a one hundred dollar
ways and a win three oho eight.
Speaker 1: There you go. I think that's a reasonable ben. I
actually think it might go.
Speaker 3: You don't have to tie it up for more than yeah,
you know, two weeks.
Speaker 1: Joe, I think is there is there alternate lines at
Kelshi alternately?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, tell me what you're thinking. I think it's.
Speaker 1: Going to go below forty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, below forty five, let's say, all right, so below
fifty is ten cents, below forty is four cents.
Speaker 3: Present there you go.
Speaker 1: Uh, listen again. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Friends, between now, over the next two weeks, the lower
it drops, the more money you're gonna make.
Speaker 3: If you're below forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to be wrong. Okay, I know
I want it to be over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 4: The predictive markets are all about. It's get in by low,
wait for the market to go into your favor, and
then a decision, Get in, get out, all right.
Speaker 1: I feel like Joe's just about to give out an
affiliate code to Kelshay No.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Polly market is different odds too,
by the way, to cats the same thing we always say,
shot and get the best numbers around. There's more, Yeah,
there's more than one place. Everybody's getting into this. And
if you're a serious sports banner, this is the way.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: I would never make a future bet in a book anymore.
But I would never make I would only look in
in these markets only.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that way. I'm a futurest guy.
I have a ton of futures work in.
Speaker 3: Why not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you because that's always the problem and
it's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Nate.
Speaker 1: McKinnon gets injured tomorrow, get out of your bet.
Speaker 2: That's like a like small sample size. Let's say you
bet the Hornets two weeks ago to win their division.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Now, you probably made quadruple your money on the Hornets
to win their division.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: I mean you probably really profited and they probably won't
win their division. You're like, let me get out, now,
take my profit and reinvest.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we'll let me ask you this the art
real quick here, just to give you something on a
compare apples apples. Let's go to the PGA Tour for instance, right,
Pebble Beach. Scotty Scheffler to win Pebble Beach this week
most places, what three to one, four to one, something
along those lines, Yeah, five to two right somewhere along yeah, right,
So basically you could lock in on Scotty Scheffler to
win this thing, right, the PGA Pebble Beach Tournament here
and all he's got to do is be leading after
the first or second round, and there it goes. That
number is gonna go right, So you don't have to
wait until the outcome of the game. You'll be able
to lock him in no lower than fifty five sixty
cents if we get to the weekend and he's within
one or two strokes of the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, speaking of golf, could you could
start doing that with majors you mastered by Yeah, you
buy three to five guys and then by the time
they tee off, correct, you've probably made money on the
guys if you can know the way they're going to
be playing heading in and you bet a guy at
forty to one and when he teas off he's twenty
five to one. Yep, Hey, you probably made some money.
So you could do that too with the majors. Probably
the same thing in tennis. Maybe not as much in
tennis because obviously the men's the top two guys, but
maybe in the women's yep, why not that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, men's tennis is a little bit of a mess
right now.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit of influence there. But my point is, guys,
there's a lot of different ways. This just opens up
the ability for you to be able to profit in
different ways in different markets among the same things. So
and plus it offers all the other markets that, like
you said, Art, I can't bet on the color at
a Gatorade in Vegas, like I can't bet on who
the next governor of this state or that state is
gonna be.
Speaker 3: You can do all that on these predictive markets here.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna do this. We're gonna talk predicted markets regularly, guys, Joe.
We will be still taping in thirteen minutes, so we'll
know whether we want to lost that bitcoin back. Correct,
We've got now down to sixty one eighty we're in
right now. Yeah, so we got twelve. I again, I
want to be wrong. I want to be wrong. Let's
turn our attention to the parlay of the day, and
I'm sticking with the Washington Wizard at plus seventeen. Art.
Speaker 2: Interesting, I'm gonna lay six and a half with am
at home against Missouri.
Speaker 3: Joe, Oh, your dirty dog.
Speaker 4: It pains me to do this, but I gotta bet
New Orleans over Miami tonight the NBA. It's the third
and fourth for Miami and the fact that they literally
were being handed the opportunity to win that game, and
they didn't against Utah. They they're running out of steam
right now. And again, no, Norman's already out. I don't
is Tyler Herro even in the league anymore. I don't know.
Wiggins is still hurt. So yeah, I think New Orleans
at Home might be the play here tonight.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there aren't anything to promote.
Speaker 2: Now. I mean, listen, this is a great show. I
think we had we found a new fun segment. And
unfortunately I'm not on the show tomorrow, but I am
back Friday, so I'll see everyone Friday.
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Speaker 1: Let's do it, Joe, it's twelve oh five, brother, Uh
sixty five, nine sixty six. I was right on bitcoin
being's it forty. I'm upset that I was right, but uh,
and nobody could take advantage of it either, because the
show wasn't up online anyway. Let's get too out.
Speaker 4: It just proves our points. You could have got in
and got out and welcome to the predictive market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Joe. I got three NBA bets. I want
to give out two of them on the rundown one
right now. My best bet is Washington plus seventeen against Cleveland.
And let me bottom line this year, guys. Look, obviously,
Cleveland's one of the best teams in the league and
hot as hell. They just won four straight. They won
nine of their last ten, and they beat some good
teams along the way. They speat Denver one nineteen to
one seventeen. But if you watch that game, it felt
like Cleveland was just about to regress slightly. And I
think this is a bad spot for them. They're coming
over from a five game West Coast road trip. I
don't want to bet these East Coast teams on the
first game back of a West Coast road trip. They
do not normally do well, and on top of that,
they have to win by seventeen points. This has let
down written all over them. They're tired from the road trip,
they're unhappy that they're back with their women. They're in
a letdown spot. They don't care about Washington, and Washington
has not been horrendous. I mean, it's not like they're
on some nine to ten game losing streak. They didn't
beat Detroit, they didn't beat Sacramento. They have won two
of their last five games. I think Washington's gonna keep
it closer.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is way too big enough, horrible,
horrible spot for Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I like that Prez a lot.
Speaker 4: In fact, all right, so you've got although lesson let's
face it, I mean, it's a lot of points on
any given day, whether they're back or not.
Speaker 3: But I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think there's I think there's some big time value
in that play there, all right. My best bet here today,
pres let me get that set up. Here is going
to be in college basketball. We'll go to college hoops here,
and I think I like Ohio State to get it
done here today against USC. Listen, anytime you get USC
crossing the country, it's never a good thing here.
Speaker 3: USC.
Speaker 4: They are one and four in Quad one games so
far this year, but this would go a long way
into securing their spot into March madness here. Not to
mention at eight of their last nine games have been
decided by six points or less. But the problem is
they're gonna be missing likely Chad Baker Mazzara, their best
player here, really the heart and soul of this team.
I think that they're gonna be able to come up
just a little bit short once again, and ultimately the
frustration level like we usually see with USC, especially when
they have to come to the east side of town,
is not good here. I think Ohio State has enough firepower.
They've been very good at home. They are owing seven
in Quad one games. They have missed a few opportunities
to get a big one. I think they get it
done here tonight. I think they get USC and I
think they are on their way to solidifying another big
ten heading the march madness here, Prez.
Speaker 1: Joe, let's move to the NBA rundown. I got two
bets for you guys. The first is in the Milwaukee
Bucks Orlando Magic game. And look, these guys played each
other two days ago, went under the total one to
eighteen ninety nine. It was a blowout with the Magic,
and I think we're going to see another under tonight.
The line is two twenty and a half. And look,
the bottom line here is the element of surprise is gone.
These teams know each other. We've seen this over and
over again. These short revenge games tend to play to
the under. The defense will be tighter, the rotations will
be sharper, the easy buckets should disappear. I think this.
I know two twenty and a half eels low in
this day and age. I don't want to overthink this.
Even if Wagner plays thirty minutes tonight for Orlando, his
efficiency is likely going to regress. He's not going to
be shooting sixty percent from the field forever. Take the
under and the Atlanta Hawks. They're playing Charlotte tonight. Plus
five and a half for Atlanta, and I like the dog.
The market is reacting to an injury report and a
venue change. But the maths doesn't add up here. We
are getting five and a half points with an Atlanta
team that has just played the same Charlotte squad to
the wire on Saturday. And don't get old g huddled
over questionable tags Jayalen Johnson, Dyson Daniels. They missed the
last game against Minnesota. I expect them both to play tonight.
The market is pricing them out or hurt. I think
we're going to see them on the floor. The bottom
line here, Joe is I'm not overthinking this. Not only
do I think Atlanta can win this game, but I
get five and a half points, I'm taking them, Joe,
what's going on?
Speaker 4: I like you, Screw you Charlotte and your winning streaks
over anyway, All right, Prez, let's talk some college troops
and i's some big matchups, some big opportunities for teams
that might be on the bubble here, and I think
Texas A and M is looking first and foremost to
try and wash that taste out of their mouth from
getting absolutely boat raced by the universe City of Florida
over the weekend. They are home again. They are taking
on Missouri here tonight. And it's interesting because we've seen
a lot of tickets and money coming in on A
and M so far today, but it hasn't really moved much.
Speaker 3: Six and a half is the number.
Speaker 4: Listen, Bucky Ball, Bucky McMillan, new head coach of the Texas.
Speaker 3: A and M.
Speaker 4: Maggie's I don't know anybody that had them sitting right
now with sixteen wins on the season, seven to three
in the SEC standings, a game behind Florida. But they're
taking on this Missouri team who's also on the bubble.
But they're gonna be an underdog here, and they've got
absolutely no perimeter defense. And if it's the one thing
that we know about A and M, they shoot thirty
seven percent from three, even better at home. Florida was
a terrible defensive matchup for him. Missouri gonna be much easier.
Not to mention, Missouri doesn't hit a ton of threes.
Missouri loves to play inside the paints. Hate to break
it to them here they can have all the paint
points they want. Three is more than two in Texas
A and M. Fifteen and eight against the number. Yeah,
meanwhile nine only nine covers in twenty three games from
Missouri this year. I think A and M has the
math in their favorite pres and I think they get
it done and don't sleep on Pepperdine here tonight. Saint
Mary's opened up as a twenty five and a half
point favorite, and now we're starting to see that tick down,
much like we saw it happen with Houston yesterday against Utah.
They were up to an eighteen and a half point favorite.
That game closed down to sixteen and a half. Yeah,
and they didn't get the cover. They did get to win.
I think the same thing happens here tonight with Pepperdine
staying within the number.
Speaker 1: There, Prez Joe, let's get to our mailback section of
the show. One of our listeners, Roy says, pres he
loved the Olympic segment. He wants Olympic bet every single day.
So yeah, brother, I got one for you of Finland
taking on Canada tomorrow in women's hockey. That's Thursday, over
five and a half. I absolutely love this play over
five and a half on the Canada Finland women's hockey
game tomorrow. So thank you, Roy. There you go. Not
a lot of comments to respond to.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 1: So yeah, guys, if you want to, if you want
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Let's hope we're a better one today.
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