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Speaker 1: Yes. Indeed, off of a weekend that has seen Carlos

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WBC Middleweight championship, We're going to recap his victory. We're

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with some up and comers. Also, the Pobox TV card

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all the way out in California saw Lester Martinez victorious

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WBC is concerned, it's super middleweight by virtue of that win.

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Recaps of all of that fight news and much more.

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my friend, let's talk about Carlos Adamis's win over Austin

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Ammo Williams, Orlando, Florida. I say to you again, I

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was disappointed in all the march madness mayhem that I

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could not get over there. That's only about an hour

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twenty depending on traffic from where I Am. I could

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not get over there. Saturday night. Adamas impressive from beginning

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to end. I'm saying that early first round knockdown that

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woke everything up. Williams got up, Williams faught on. Williams

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fought valiantly. But really this was the night that Adamas

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had been looking for. Dan pick it up from there

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on his win.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a second round knockdown, but still, thank you,

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thank you, still early knockdown. Look, this was a very

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impressive performance. There were those who understandably gave Austin M. L.

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Williams a good chance to win. They looked to the

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fact that number one, Adamas had been out of the

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ring for the better part of a year plus a

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little longer, about thirteen fourteen months since his last fight.

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That was the Shiraz fight. That was the draw that

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a lot of people thought that Adamas deserved to win.

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But nonetheless he hadn't box for over a year. And

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you go back to what happened just seven weeks before

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this fight took place, which was when they were supposed

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to have this match on the undercard. Of course, Stevenson's

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victory against Tiathimo Lopez at Madison Square Guard on January

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thirty first, and you know, we can don't have to

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rehash every detail, but the bottom line was that Damas

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was having weight troubles. He had to go to the hospital,

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got sick trying to do his weight cut, and the

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fight got canceled. And there was a lot of questions

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about his conditioning and his devotion to making Middleway, to

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all those types of things. And in the meantime, they

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did find an opponent for Austin Williams to fight on

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literally like a day's notice. He went in a little

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bit over the weight for obvious reasons because of the

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short notice of the fight, but he did his job,

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scored a knockdown, a one on one sided ten round

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decision against you know, the credible professional Wind Trussan. So

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now you go into the fight seven weeks later and

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it's rescheduled that he hearn from matrim had promised him

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that as soon as Adamas was able, they would reschedule

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this as quickly as possible. He kept as ward they

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did this, and so you go into the fight. You're like, okay,

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he just had ten rounds against a decent opponent. He

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won pretty handily. He got another guy that's had all

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kinds of ailments in terms of making the weight and

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the post a postponement of the fight for his issues

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out of the ring for a year. There was a

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lot of I don't know this for a fact, Chris

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of rumors about it, but I didn't know for sure.

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the damas went in with some type of arm injury

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as well. Anyway, Yeah, that I'll tea. You're like, oh,

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maybe there's a chance that Williams gets the upset. Nothing

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could be further from the truth comb it, because Austin

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determination and I respect that, and every boxing fan should

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respect the effort that this man gave to do everything

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he could possibly do to try to win this fight

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and to become the WBC midleweight world champion. So, you know, everybody,

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you know, tip of the hat to the heart and

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the grit that he showed. But he was completely outclassed,

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one hundred percent outclassed.

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Speaker 1: What do you like to say? There are levels to

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this stuff? Is what the fighters always say. And that's

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pretty much what a Damas said, and it looked at

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as the fight more on in the first few rounds

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levels to this, and a Damas looks like a championship

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level the game. Amio Williams not a championship level fighter

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at least at this point because he couldn't summon it.

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Speaker 2: So to quote Carlos Adamis after the fight through the

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translator to the interpreter, he's you know, he talked about

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like why he thought he would dominate the fight. He said,

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that's why I said it was going to be easy

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work for me, and it was. With all due respect,

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he's just not on my level. I'm there, he's there,

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with all respect to him, and that's what happened, and

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he's right. So a Damas went in there and he,

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you know, as I wrote in my piece on substack,

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he was wearing his waist you know, his on his

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trunks on the waistband in the front where the word

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destroy and on the back was the word demolished. Now

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he didn't actually get the knockout, but otherwise he destroyed

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and demolished Austin Williams.

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Speaker 3: He won going away.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had one eighteen to one oh nine,

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as did one of the judges to other judges had

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at won seventeen one oh nine. Part of the reason

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for that, uh, was because he had appointed from him

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a meaningless point in the twelfth round for a low

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blow against Austin Williams.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was basically like anywhere from a shutout

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to like ten rounds to two if you were being generous. Uh,

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this was a one sided ask kicking that he was.

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clean shot right on the button.

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and was able to carry on for the next ten rounds,

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you know, shows you the type of determination.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've talked about this before. Sometimes the story

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of the fight is the great performance from the winner,

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and the grit that the loser shows and and the

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story that they create. And I think this was the

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kind of fight that actually has both of them.

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Speaker 1: He had him heard, he had him hurt in the

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eighth round, he had him hurt in the eleventh round.

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I thought in the final couple of rounds that he

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might get the stoppage and then a Damas comfortably in

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front was still pounding on him in the twelfth.

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one time where he landed. I think it was a

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right hand on top of the head that kind of

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buckled the Adamis's knees. But Adamas, you know, it's if

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you look at their background, he has like two hundred

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and fifty or something amateur fights. He was a top

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amateur for the Dominican and Williams does not have nearly

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that type of experience. He's just a better fighter, thicker, stronger.

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I don't know if i'd say quicker, but like you said,

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there's levels, and it showed if you thought that he

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had a chance to win because of all the factors

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that we discussed this a minute ago, you know it

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was not relevant because he looked good and matter of fact,

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it wasn't even I'm not I can't really speak about

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what happened in terms of the waight in New York City,

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but for this fight, he came in under one hundred

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and sixty. He was like one sixty one fifty eight

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in change. They actually are both under the limit. He

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spoke about after the fight that you know, in the

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right circumstance, not only can I fight anybody that want

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to throw out me at middleweight, but I can go

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down to one fifty four. I can fight with anybody

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at one sixty eight, which opens up, of course, given

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the terrible version of the middleweight division as it exists today,

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if you're willing to fight top guys at fifty four

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or at one sixty eight, it certainly should open up.

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where he's with, they have involved in some of those

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weight classes. Obviously at one fifty four. They got the

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Keith Thurman challenging Sebashan Mendora. I mean, there's there's there's

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a lot of if you're gonna go to fifty four,

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if somebody would have the stones to get in the

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ring with Carlos Damas, there's a lot of possibilities that

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same thing. If he were to go to sixty eight,

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guys can maybe look up to, you know, to look

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to fight him also. But this, look, this was probably

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the best performance that we've seen from from Carlos Damas.

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I mean, even if you think he was the winner

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in the Shiraz fight, it wasn't like this type of

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you know, dominating lights out performance when he won the

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fight against Carell Gachet. I mean, he won virtually every round,

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but it was not anything very exciting. This was a

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very entertaining fight to watch. A lot of that was

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because of the heart that we talked about with relation

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to the way that Emma Williams spot to fight. This

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was h This was a dynamite performance. And I think

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that even though we we we have mocked the middleway

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division all ridiculously for a long time here on our

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little show here, but if you take a look at

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the weight class, I don't think there's any question right

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now that even in a down time frame, he is

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number one in that weight class because the other top

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guys quote unquote. He got Jannebec, who's on ice because

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of a suspension. He still has the WBO title, got

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stripped to the IBF, but he ain't fighting for a

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while Arislandi Laura, who's the WBA champion as now. To

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his credit, he did sign to fight Janebec, which is

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before that fight win he tested positive. But other than that,

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he spent years at middleweight fighting absolute nobody's and PBC

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has never shown an interest to make Odamis against Laura.

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Ishmael Salaz. You know, he'd have to pick one guy

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or the other. He got Jesus Ramus, who has an

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interim belt at one sixty. He is the WBC's interim

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champion also with PBC, but he's pretty much new to

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the weight class. His victory to get that belt was

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against Shane Moseley Junior, not exactly the superstar top contender,

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and then if you go beyond that, it's still just

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not a very good division. So you know, it's like

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being the I don't know, being the top midget. I

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guess I'd be a number one.

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Speaker 1: That a weight or the or the best steak between

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as I liked to joke, Morrison's Cafeteria which was always

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big in the South, or Golden Corral or Ryan Steakhouse.

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How good can I like to say?

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Speaker 3: It's like being the heavyweight champ of the Mahamas?

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Speaker 1: Yes, how good can it be? Okay? So stay tuned,

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can Adama stay active? We keep talking about when you're

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fighting once a year. That's another big thing. Does he

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get back in the ring here in twenty twenty six,

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you would hope. So in the fall, let's see against somebody.

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Speaker 1: I say to you all the time. He's an outstanding

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body puncher. He's as good as body puncher as you're

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going to see at the championship level. There's a lot

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to like, except you don't see it enough.

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Speaker 2: So you wonder, also what did Williams? What will he

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take from the loss?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: I thought that that he demonstrated humility, but also an

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element of resoluteness, if you will. In the post fight

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where you know, after all the chippy back in fourth

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they had leading up to the fight, he gave him credit.

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He's like, look, there were some things I was trying

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to do. I couldn't get him done. He fought a

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good fight, you know, good respect to him. Congratulations. I'm

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going back to the gym to work on my craft

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and then that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The one thing about it was, and this was very evident,

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and Kevin Cunningham, who was his amma, Williams's outstanding trainer,

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you know, was begging him to not back up. Now

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that's easier said than done, because if he didn't back up,

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you know, there's a good chance he winds up flat

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on his back.

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Speaker 3: He also, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if it was If there was a guy you

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might suspect and have great conditioning, it might have been

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at Damas given the weight situation what happened in January,

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but it really seemed like it was Williams. It did

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not have the conditioning that a Damas had because he

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would come out and they made the point of this

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on the broadcast. It was very evident if he watched

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any of these middle rounds, he would have these great

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bursts in the beginning of the round ten twenty thirty

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seconds where he was all over him. Adamas would just

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take whatever he had, was unfazed by anything, and then

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he would kind of run out of gas and Adamas

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would take over and beat the living shit out of

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him for the remainder of the round. And you know,

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to be able to keep your conditioning and the opponent

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can can take your flurry at the start of around,

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you know, you're a dead duck, and that's pretty much

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what happened all right.

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Speaker 1: Undercard of this, we were curious to see what would

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happen with the Mari Jones, the junior middleweight prospect, and

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so he ends up fighting a distance fight and then

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our heavyweight Teamona Tarramona, who we were talking about. It

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was over quickly, so give us the recap there of both.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mari Jones was finding at home in Orlando, he

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is from there. He is the twenty twenty four US

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Olympic bronze medalist. He is the only American medalist that

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kept the United States from a shutout in the Olympics

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that recently took place. And they put him in with

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a very experienced fighter in Christian Gomez, who was twenty

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three six and one with twenty one knockouts coming in. Obviously,

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that's a great amount of knockouts considering the number of wins,

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although he hadn't really fought any top guys, so you're

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going to kind of have to.

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Speaker 3: Weigh the situation.

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Speaker 2: But he was experienced, he had had a number of

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ten round fights in his recent past. And here you

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have young Jones, you know, even fighting somebody like Gomez

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who's not a top level fighter. This was still by

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every metric you could look at. We certainly had to

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be considered a step up for Omari Jones. And in

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his most recent fight in January, prior to this one,

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he had gone the distance in six rounds. This was

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his first scheduled eight rounder and he went to distance again,

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So some might look at him be that was disappointing.

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Gomez had been stopped twice previously in fights. Now he

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couldn't get the knockout. But if he asked Jones, and

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he was asked this by Mannix after the fight, he

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said this was his best performance to date. He says,

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I was in with a tough veteran guy who came

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to fight.

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Speaker 3: He got.

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Speaker 2: You know, it went eight rounds, but he had been

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in ten rounders and you know he won every single

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round of the fight easily. Omari Jones did his job,

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was absolutely perfection in the fight. He just could not

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miss with it. Basically, Gomes had no idea how to

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get inside against it. In the pre fight, Gomez spoke

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about how his pathway to victory was I got to

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get on the inside. He could not do so, and

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as Omari Jones said afterwards, the jab was working great

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I was tat doing him with it, basically, and you know,

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if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So he took

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that job, and he rode that for eight rounds and

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he won eighty to seventy two one all three scorecards. Now,

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it might not have been the most competitive or exciting fight,

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but if you are a supporter of where Jones may

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be added to, which is a world title, this was

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a beautiful building block fight for him to get in

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those valuable rounds against a tough, durable opponent, to perfect

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your job or continue to perfect your jab, and to

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win going away, and he'll be back, you know, probably

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in the next couple of months. I mean, these are

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the kinds of fights that years from now we're not

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going to talk about and remember, but these are the

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types of fights that build the foundation of a future champion.

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So you have to look at it both from the

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immediate satisfaction, maybe it wasn't anything spectacular, but in the

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long run it could pay tremendous dividends when you have

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this type of performance. So look the kids doing everything right,

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what he's supposed to do. He's a hard worker, he's

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twenty three, he's now six to oh, with four knockouts.

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He's on his way to big things.

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Speaker 3: It seems.

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Speaker 2: If he can just keep performing in this matter and

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come condition wise the way he's been showing up at

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his fights, and keep a good atitude, he's got a

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a lot of bright nights in front of him. I

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think you mentioned about Taramona Tarramona, as I say, he

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is so nice and name them twice, big strapping twenty

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twenty four Olympian for Australia, great personality and big right hand,

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big punching power. Taking on the well traveled journeyman Curtis Harper,

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who now is nineteen thirteen with thirteen knockouts. He had

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just fought by the Way three weeks ago and lost

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an eight round decision. And he took this fight against

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you know where he's a prohibitive underdog. As he said,

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I got five kids, I got mouse to feed and

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this is my job.

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Speaker 3: So he took the fight.

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Speaker 2: Probably got paid a lot more than he did for

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the last loss that he took against Roney Hines back

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eight weeks ago or three weeks ago, I should say,

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And you know there was some thought that Okay, Tarremona's

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you know, he came into the fight. This was also Tarramona.

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Tarmona's first eight rounder. He came into the fight nine and.

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Speaker 1: Was a scheduled eight rounder all right, was not even

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close to a two rounder, as it turns out.

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Speaker 2: So he came in nine to zero with nine knockouts.

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He had never been past the full second round. There

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was some thought that maybe, you know, given Curtis Harper's experience,

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the caliber fighters he has faced, even with all those losses,

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yes he had been stopped, you know a few times,

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that maybe he could extend Tarramona into you know, round three,

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maybe round four.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. That was not to be.

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Speaker 2: You know, he came out and just you know, started

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winging these overhand rights. Tarramona, you know, was unmoved by

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it at all. Took whatever there was and then you know,

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started to back them up, landed a nice right hand

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and put him in the ropes, and before you know it,

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there comes a big right hand and it was a

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clean and the beautiful thing about it was it was straight,

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it was not looping, it was not off kilter. It

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was right down the fucking pipe and right on the chin,

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and it laid out Curtis Harper flat on his back.

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He was literally spread eagle. Referee of course waved it off.

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It was at two minutes fifty nine seconds, so one

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second shy of maybe getting to round number two and

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that's all she wrote. I mean he's an exciting fighter

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ten and know now with ten knockouts all within two rounds,

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so you still want to see him extended, going to

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do any fights a better caliber opponent. Even before this

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fight happened, TJ, he was already scheduled for his next fight,

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which is on the recently announced Matchroom card that's going

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to be an Australia headlined by Sky Nicholson, that's on

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April twenty knights, and he'll go home and have a

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fight in Australia that fights in Melbourne. Still no opponent

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yet for him.

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Speaker 3: And just to put it.

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Speaker 2: In sort of context, if you take a look at

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the record of Curtis Harper, the types of guys he's

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been knocked out by, Richard Torres Junior took care of him,

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Abakadir Jalalov, the two time Olympic gold medal winner, a

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Jillie Jang. I mean, these are the types of guys

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that have stopped him. So that's pretty good company if

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you're a teamone. I mean, we still don't know what

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it's going to be like when he gets hit on

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the chin, and that's the question mark for every single

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heavyweight that ever put on gloves. But from an offensive

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point of view, he's pretty fucking good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was scary just for a second too,

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because anybody that might thought that Harper was just there

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to take a dive, did hit lay down, take the payday.

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He slammed his head on the ground when he got

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laid out, and the double impact is always very concerning,

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and he didn't move for a couple seconds, and that's

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why the referee just went ahead and said that's it.

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This was not him a knockout.

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Speaker 3: If they had jaga and he stepped out of the

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ring ages, he gave an effort. But he is what

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he is. I mean, he's a journeyman.

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Speaker 1: Uh So Tarimona, Tarimonia will watch for things from him.

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So all in all, good show in Orlando. Let's go

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a long way on the same continent from Orlando to

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San Bernardino, California, where Lester Martinez the Guatemalan does win

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over Emanuel Aleem. Uh he gets the vacant WBC Interim

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super Middleweight title by virtue of the win. Hard fought fight.

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I must confess because of all the march madness, I've

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only seen some of the clips and the highlights of

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the fight.

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Speaker 3: He didn't agree.

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Speaker 1: You agree with the decision here on Martinez tough fight.

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Elaine took some punishment in the fight. What do you

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agree with the decision? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean it was it would not amount. Do

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you agree with the decisions some matter?

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Speaker 3: Do you agree? I think with the with the width

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of the decision.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: The scores are one twe eighteen to one, ten and

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one nineteen to one, So that's you know, twelve zero,

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eleven to one and ten to two and that's you know,

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how many times did we discussed the range of acceptable scores?

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One hundred percent? That was the range of acceptable scores. Look,

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Lester Martinez was the favorite. You know, A Lien was

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a tough guy and has some experience, but was again

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there are levels, as we discussed in the previous fight,

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he was outclassed. He gave a good effort and he

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made some rounds competitive, but Lester Martinez just had too

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much for him. It was never really I felt like

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it never really broke out into the fight. It was

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sort of like Martinez just took control right away and alien.

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Like I said, he tried, but he never really showed

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any moment where he thought, Okay, maybe he'll get back

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into this thing and start winning rounds, or maybe you

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get a knockdown or something like that. So he gets

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into twelve rounds. Jew drew good crowd there in San Bernardino.

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I guess they have a Guatemalan community in the region.

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They clearly turned out for him. He wins this WBC

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interim title. We discussed beforehand that it would have made

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more sense had the WBC ordered the Billy who had

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been elevated from the interim champion to the full champion

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when Crawford retired to order the rematch against Lester Martinez

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after the great fight that they had in a draw,

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or in the same belt before he had been elevated.

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That was, of course, back in September on the undercard

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of Canelo versus Crawford. But now he's got the interim belt.

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We'll see what they do. We've discussed about one sixty eight.

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It's got a lot of possibilities. I'm not convinced that

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now suddenly the WBS is going to order the rematch.

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I will make a rematch. I think both guys can

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go other directions and make good money. I'm still on

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the on the on the on the on the level

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where I think that in September, the next fight for

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Canelo has a good chance to be against my Billy,

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which means he's not fighting Lester Martinez in between, obviously,

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But the main thing here is this. The belt is

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meaningful because it will help him make money. It's a chip,

476
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,440
it's an economic chip, and he's a good fighter. He's

477
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,759
a quality contender in this weight class. Probox has done

478
00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:54,519
a good job bringing him along.

479
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,039
Speaker 1: Uh.

480
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,279
Speaker 2: He's entertaining to watch. He does have some uh, some

481
00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:01,720
swagger to him. I mean, there's nothing wrong with having

482
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,039
Lester Martinez part of my viewing.

483
00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:07,759
Speaker 1: Heabit and give him credit the first ever. Well, I

484
00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:10,880
mean he's not a full world champion, but as a

485
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,240
quasi interim vacant title belt there from Guatemala. We acknowledge that.

486
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,680
And you're anxious to talk a little bit because again

487
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,480
it didn't take long from one of your top prospects.

488
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,880
As you said, I got to you said to me

489
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,079
before I hit the record, but I got to talk

490
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,119
about my boy, Chop Chop, Albert Chop Chop Gonzales, a

491
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,480
featherweight into the night quickly for Brandon Chambers. Tell me more,

492
00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,640
not only about the quick win, but about the future

493
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,640
for Chop Chop.

494
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, Chop Chop Gonzales. Albert Gonzalez trained by Robert Garcia,

495
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,039
but promoted by top rank. He's one of the best

496
00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:44,440
prospects in boxing now. Probably a lot of people haven't

497
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,599
gotten a chance to see hi. Now, if they were

498
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,759
watching all those top rank undercards when they were all

499
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,480
streamed on ESPN Plus as part of their preliminaries, they

500
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,000
got a hefty dose of Albert Gonzalez. He's a very

501
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,880
good fighter in the he featherweight division. He is now,

502
00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:00,519
excuse me, seventeen and ero with ten knockouts, only twenty

503
00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,480
three years old out of Riverside, California. Just a guy

504
00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,519
that seems like he's going to the top. I mean,

505
00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,079
every time I've watched him, he's looked good. He's obviously

506
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,720
scored mostly in recent fights. Anyway, He's getting a lot

507
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,920
of knockouts. He's a good boxer. He's increasing his level

508
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,440
of opposition. You know here and there, you know, fighting

509
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,880
some okay guys and their braining along again very young.

510
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,319
At the end of the year in twenty twenty five,

511
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,200
when I did my prospect roundup like I do all

512
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,960
the time, I ranked them number seven. He's got a

513
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:32,799
chance to be maybe the prospect of the year with

514
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:35,359
a continued success this year, and he put the guy

515
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,960
out in like a minute and a half. I mean,

516
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,960
one thing about about his situation is when Top Rank

517
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,839
went from last July to just this the last few

518
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,359
days when they announced their Hisonne contract. We talked about

519
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,400
when we discussed that situation, a Top Rank had done

520
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,680
a pretty damn good job of keeping their young guys busy,

521
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000
even some of their champions, by making deals with other

522
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:57,920
promoters and putting fighters in o their cards and buying

523
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,400
positions for their young fighters to fight on other cards.

524
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240
So this is one of those situations where they had

525
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:06,480
him on this card with Probox. This was his actually

526
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,519
think about this now. From July until until now has

527
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,559
been about what seven eight months with no contract for

528
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,119
Top Break, but Albert Gonzalez this was his fourth fight

529
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,960
in that span of time, so they've done a tremendous

530
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200
job of keeping the young men busy. They view him

531
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,240
as one of their top prospects. He's just another in

532
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,400
the pipeline of young fighters that top rank continues to

533
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,519
crank out by signing the right guys, by getting the reps,

534
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,559
by getting the right opponents, by having their outstanding matchmaking

535
00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:36,359
courtesy of Brad Goodman, the Hall of Famer and his

536
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,680
his boss, another Hall of Famer, Bruce Trembler. And so

537
00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:41,759
he's another guy to keep an eye and I suspect

538
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:44,079
that you know, he'll he'll spend the rest of this year,

539
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,440
you know, in those sort of learning, stepping up type

540
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,559
of mode, and then come next year, you know they'll

541
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,440
they'll they'll take the take the take the reins off,

542
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,960
I guess, and let him free and see what he

543
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,759
can do. But he's a very good prospect. It's good

544
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:57,640
to see him back in action on this card. And

545
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,400
it was an impressive performance against Brandon Schames got him

546
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,480
out of there, like I said, but I think it

547
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,920
was one minute, twenty seven seconds.

548
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,519
Speaker 1: Kudos to Chop Chop. One other recap go all the

549
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:06,839
way to.

550
00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: The UK, hold on before we get there.

551
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh we got something else too, And yes, and you

552
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,160
were telling me just before the show. There was an

553
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,160
update here on what was a scary situation on one

554
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,680
of the undercard female fights.

555
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:19,559
Speaker 2: Yes, so this was like way on the undercard. I

556
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,279
think it might have been the first fight of the show. Actually,

557
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:24,640
there was a junior bandonwait female boxing match. A woman

558
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,920
named Jocelyn Camarillo scored a first round knockout against a

559
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,079
woman named Isis Scio and it was a very very

560
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,640
very bad knockout. You don't usually see first round knockouts

561
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200
that result in the fighter who's been knocked out being

562
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,279
taken out of the ring on the stretcher. That's what

563
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,400
happened to this young woman who I believe is only

564
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,759
nineteen years old. Yes, very very brutal knockout, and then

565
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960
you know, the show goes on. You don't really hear

566
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,119
anything about it. So literally, like in the minutes before

567
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,799
we logged on to start taping our show today, I

568
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,519
got a press announcement for the folks at Probox who

569
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,480
put this card on, and I will read the statement

570
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,160
on behalf of CEO Gary Jonas and the entire Probox family.

571
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,240
We are praying for a speedy recovery for Isis SiO.

572
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:06,400
Miss s iiO is currently in a medically induced coma.

573
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:08,440
Our thoughts are with her and her family at this

574
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,119
very difficult time. Please join us in wishing for a

575
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,759
full recovery. So she's in the hospital. And when you

576
00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:17,359
hear in medically induced coma, I have unfortunately covered these

577
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,680
types of stories many many times. That usually means that

578
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,799
you've had some type of bleeding on your brain. They

579
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,640
put you in the medically induced coma to help relieve

580
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,400
you know, usually their surgery involved, and they do it

581
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,920
to usually take a small part of your skull to

582
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:36,119
lift it to help the swelling. In other words, if

583
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,759
you have bleeding on the brain and your brain gets

584
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,000
a swell up, the skull is there. It's got to

585
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,319
have a place to go. And if you take a

586
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720
small piece of the skull out, it gives a little

587
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119
extra space for the swelling to happen, and then they

588
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,759
hope to reduce the swelling. That that's the general thing

589
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,160
about why fighters are put into medically induced coma. They

590
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,000
just hope that this young woman is okay. But that

591
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,799
was when you watch the knockout. I watched the UH.

592
00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,720
I watched the UH and it was a very short fight.

593
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,519
So wasn't a lot to watch, but it was a rough,

594
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,400
rough ko you don't see, you know.

595
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a reminder of how scary and violent this sport

596
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,400
can be instantaneously, and so again awful. We'll we'll wait

597
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,200
for a further update on that, but there's the update

598
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,839
on Sunday.

599
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:17,759
Speaker 2: But the thing about also was the girl she was

600
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:19,519
fighting was five and are going into the fight, and

601
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:21,759
the young woman that's in the coma he was she

602
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:23,759
was one and three with now she's one and three

603
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,240
with two knockout losses. And I have to be honest,

604
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,400
when I was watching the fight, I'm like, you could

605
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,039
just tell literally from the opening bell that this is

606
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,319
just a blatant mismatch because I didn't, like, I'm looking

607
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,440
at at the woman, how she was moving, it was

608
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,839
like she didn't even know how to hold her hands

609
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:43,759
the right way as a professional boxer. So unfortunately it

610
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,119
seems like she may have paid the price. Hopefully she's okay.

611
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,319
Speaker 1: Though, okay, And so we come off of that and

612
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960
actually we go over to the UK on Friday night

613
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,200
in Belfast, Northern Ireland, where Michael Conlin was in a

614
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,960
featherweight contender fight and was beaten again, this time by

615
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,119
an American not well known, Kevin Walsh. You're gonna educate

616
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,039
us more on him. He defeats Michael Conlin in Belfast,

617
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,440
and I mean, if it was not over before this,

618
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,079
I think it's probably gotta be over. Give me more

619
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,400
on what happened here with Kevin Walsh pulling the upset.

620
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I didn't think he won the fight.

621
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,559
Kevin Wash, myself and a lot of people thought Michael

622
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,920
Colin deserved this victory. They called it a split decision,

623
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,519
so you know, which is surprising. Kevin Wash, you know

624
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,359
from Brockton, Massachusetts, the hometown of the legendary Rocky Marciano.

625
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,519
He got the split decision in Delfast, which is the

626
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,000
hometown of Michael Conlin. Michael Conlin is the two time

627
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Irish Olympian, longtime top rank fighter, you know, fought for titles, hats,

628
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,799
ups and downs, famously in the Olympics, you know, giving

629
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,920
the finger to the members of the judging panel for

630
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
the outright robbery that they gave in that was later

631
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,160
found to be corrupt. In any event, He's had an

632
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,720
up and down career, but most recently he had won

633
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480
a couple of fights in a row. This was following

634
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,559
the back to back losses to Luis Alberta Lopez at

635
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,400
one twenty six and then at one thirty to Jordan Gill,

636
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,480
two rough knockouts. But anyway, he was trying to make

637
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960
another go at featherweight. Like I said, won the two

638
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,480
in a row. This was the third fight of the

639
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:14,799
supposed comeback. There was a lot of conversation that if

640
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,519
he had been successful, perhaps he'd be a summer opponent

641
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,359
for Shushu Carrington for the WBC title. This was a

642
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,960
WBC regional title fight, so I would have put the

643
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,279
winner in a good position to be in that to

644
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,880
be eligible for that type of fight. He loses a

645
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,000
split decision close. He won ninety seven ninety three on

646
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,119
one scorecard Kevin Walsh. They gave him ninety six to

647
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,079
ninety four on the other two. Now, like I said,

648
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:40,440
I thought that that Conlin was the winner of the fight.

649
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 3: That said A.

650
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,359
Speaker 2: It was a shitty, shitty, shitty fucking fight to watch,

651
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,720
just a terrible fight, boring. You know, I'll never get

652
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,640
those forty minutes, but in my life, that's the first thing.

653
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Does Cole. I mean, let's just stop, right there. I mean,

654
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
this is not a championship level fighter he's fighting, So

655
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,599
does Conlin look done? Regardless of whether he got his

656
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,880
hand raised or not. The thing about watching the fight.

657
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: After the fight was over, you know, you know he's

658
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,359
not an old fighter, but he's been around a long time,

659
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,359
both with the amateurs and pros. He's like thirty five

660
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,440
or thirty four. He announced his retirement, and you know,

661
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,799
I saw the video where that he was sitting on

662
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,519
a couch in his dressing room a lot of the

663
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200
reporters around doing like his press conference. He was there

664
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,039
with his kids and I think his wife and you know,

665
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,160
other members of the team, and his perspective was and

666
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,920
I wrote a lot of the quotes in my story

667
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
about this. Basically he was like, look, you know, I've

668
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,599
been in this game a long time, and you know,

669
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720
maybe the fight result was controversial whatever, but it's just

670
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,119
time for me to go. I want to walk away

671
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,680
with my health intact. You know, my family is good

672
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,400
and I'm done, and you know, I thought I got

673
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,960
the job done, but you know, if it's it's going

674
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:45,920
to be like that, then I really should walk away

675
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,559
because I got nothing else to prove.

676
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:48,359
Speaker 3: I had a good career.

677
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't reach my goal of winning a

678
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,519
world championship, but you know, such a life, so you know, look,

679
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,920
I had a blast covered a lot of Michael Commin fights,

680
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,680
interviewing him and knowing him over the years. For me,

681
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,559
I was in attendance at Madison Square Guards Theater for

682
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,519
his professional debut. It was one of the most electrifying

683
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,519
things ever last night that Connor McGregor came in my

684
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,599
face and tried being a boxing guy. So a lot

685
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,759
of good memories there.

686
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 1: All right. So we'll see what Conlin ends up. You know,

687
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,279
if he stays retired, he could obviously be a commentator, promoters,

688
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:22,359
still be involved in the sport, trainer whatever, if he

689
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,039
still wants. We'll see what he ends up doing. And

690
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,240
a win for Kevin Walts there to go to Ireland

691
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,000
and get that victory. Okay, some news Big Dan, But

692
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,720
with Virgil Ortiz tied up legally right now with arbitration

693
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,640
in Oscar de la Joya and whether he's going to

694
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680
get divorced or not from Golden Boy Promotions, it looks

695
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,720
like Jaron Innis is going to move on and the

696
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,119
name Xander Zaiaz, which had been out there before is

697
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:49,039
the unified junior middleway champ may be that next fight,

698
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,839
which is an intriguing fight. What do we know about

699
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,680
how realistic?

700
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,319
Speaker 2: This is real quick, It's very realistic. The two sides

701
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:58,200
are absolutely engaged in conversations. Todd above from Top Rank,

702
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,640
the president of Top Rank, said on Ario Hawani show

703
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,640
he was in New York for the press commerce wh

704
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,880
announced his own deal. He did Ariol's show. He spoke

705
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,559
about it specifically said they are talking about it.

706
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

707
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Mattroom Boxing, which is the promoter for Bootsennas, has acknowledged

708
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640
those negotiations when I asked them about it, So they

709
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,079
are talking.

710
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:15,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

711
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 2: It would be targeted for June. I imagine if they

712
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,720
get it done, it would be probably the Puerto Rican

713
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,519
Parade Day weekend in Madison Square Guarden.

714
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: Would be a huge event.

715
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,599
Speaker 2: And look that the reason why this is you can

716
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,480
write this down and pen in an ink for sure.

717
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,119
This is not a fight that Top Rank would be

718
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,599
on the top of its list to do. This is

719
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,839
this If it does happen, it's because Xander Zias is

720
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
pushing hard to get this fight. He wants to fight

721
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,240
a top opponent and we need more people like Xander Zias. Yes,

722
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,039
in this sport, he wants to test himself against the best.

723
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,119
And obviously, even though Botsennes is the interim title holder

724
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,680
and he is the unified champion, I don't think anybody

725
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640
in their right mind would say that Jaron Boutsen is

726
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,599
not one of the very best UH junior middle eights

727
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,599
in the world. There's no question about that. And certainly

728
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,039
Xander's eyes in this fight in the defense in front

729
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,559
of a sort of a hometown crowd essentially, with the

730
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,640
Puerto Rican fans there, even though he's not from New York,

731
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,680
then he'll be the underdog. So if they get it done,

732
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,720
it'll be it'll be a big summer event. Obviously, it

733
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:16,880
will be one of the first events we see that

734
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,359
comes along as a byproduct of the top ranks moved

735
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,039
to the own. You know, a fight that is makeable,

736
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:25,640
I mean, any fight is makeable, but it's just it

737
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,839
becomes at least one less hassle when you're on the

738
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,279
same platform, I suppose. And so if this fight happens, uh,

739
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680
you know, good for the fighters for making Obviously, if

740
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:37,640
Dron Boutennis is willing to fight version of Artis and

741
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,799
the other types of guys that he was talking about.

742
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:42,440
You know, Xander's I is a really good fighter also,

743
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,160
but I don't there's nothing that he would say, I'm

744
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,880
not going to fight that guy. Not only is it

745
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,279
a chance to to have a big event, but you

746
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:49,960
got a chance to win not only one belt, but

747
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,880
two belts because he is the unified champ. I mean

748
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,519
Zias again. To his credit, he won the belt, the

749
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,000
vacant WBO belt back in the final fight of the

750
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,279
top rank ESPN deal backen j in a pretty one

751
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:04,200
sided fight. But then in his first fight he said

752
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,640
I want to fight a real guy, and they fought

753
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
a boss Baru and a unification in Puerto Rico. That

754
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,039
was a fight where a lot of people thought brew

755
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:12,119
had a good chance to win the fight. And Zius

756
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,559
looked really sharp and look good in the fight, and

757
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:15,559
he won. And so now he's not wasting any time.

758
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,039
Let's bring on the next top.

759
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 1: Gun and by the way, we win as the fans.

760
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400
I want this kind of fight. My hand is up

761
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,440
and andis is a very talented fighter, and there's high stakes.

762
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,839
There's two world titles. We're going to talk a lot

763
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,039
later this week about Fondorra and Thurman and that's in

764
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:35,359
this same division. But yeah, on the heels of that fight,

765
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960
let's get this fight and see what else is I'm.

766
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,839
Speaker 2: Not sure that it's in Xander Zius's mind, but it

767
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920
is a part of it. If he goes and makes

768
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,039
the match within us, and he happens to lose the fight,

769
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,559
does that mean at age twenty three years old and

770
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,599
twenty three and one, with a loss of sudden of

771
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,519
his careers over him. That's the point. You can absolutely

772
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,640
come back and do big things from a loss.

773
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,799
Speaker 1: And by the way, we've lost our way presently. I'm

774
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,079
not saying you we've lost our way presently if we're

775
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,400
not going to have the young guys who are undefeated

776
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,559
be willing to fight each other until they're now twenty nine,

777
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920
thirty or thirty one, so that everybody can stay undefeated

778
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,639
and not fight the best fighters just to have the

779
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:09,119
best fights.

780
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,039
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Here's the thing about this fight. You

781
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,920
can I mean, I'd have to go back and do

782
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,320
some research, but I can guarantee you the list is

783
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,400
not long. Then let's say in the last like five

784
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,159
or ten years, you're not going to find a lot

785
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,920
of world title fights between two guys that are in

786
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
their twenties who are both undefeated, and that's what this

787
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,760
would be because and.

788
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,199
Speaker 1: High level, championship level fight.

789
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: That's my point. World test.

790
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,079
Speaker 2: So Zis is a unified team at age twenty three.

791
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,880
His opponent, if it is made, will be ns who

792
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,280
is twenty eight, also undefeated. They are a combined fifty

793
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,840
eight to zero. I mean that's that's pretty impressive. I mean,

794
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:43,400
let's get it on, baby.

795
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,119
Speaker 1: I like it. Speaking of de Zone, and we talked

796
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,360
a lot about the Top Ranked deal. Okay, reports are

797
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,840
out there that Golden Boy and Dezone have apparently agreed

798
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,880
and so now this is going to be the resumption

799
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,480
of their relationship with regular fights on the Zone. What

800
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,960
are you here, you're doing some reporting? Does it look

801
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,559
like they're going to be signed up along with Top Rank,

802
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,480
along with Mattroom, along with Queensbury under the same platform.

803
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is likely what's going to happen. I don't

804
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,119
have a I have not been able to nail down. Yes,

805
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:14,239
this is a done deal, other than it is getting close,

806
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000
perhaps it's already done. The Oscar de la Hoya from

807
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,639
Golden Boy has eluded on his social media that coming

808
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,239
Tuesday will be a big announcement. I'm assuming that is

809
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,440
what this is. Look all along, Golden Boy and the Zone,

810
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,159
despite all the issues and all the negativity related to

811
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,199
not being able to make the ortiz and in this

812
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,199
fight for different reasons, they always maintained that even though

813
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,320
the contract that expired on December thirty first, that they

814
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,559
were still discussions, deep discussions about trying to get something

815
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,360
worked out. You and I talked about some people I

816
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,920
feel like made the false I never did this, but

817
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,440
there was the false assumption that when Top Rank got

818
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,039
the deal done with his Zone somehow, that the Zone

819
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:58,400
was simply replacing the Golden Boy slot on their roster

820
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:02,000
with the Top Ranks fights. That was never the case

821
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:03,840
in my opinion, and it doesn't as seem as though

822
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920
that is going to be what happens. They're just rolling

823
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,800
up all the big the big promoters and you know,

824
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,840
fight for fight, show for show. I feel like Golden

825
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Boy has delivered quite a bit of value to the

826
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,800
Zone because their shows are entertaining.

827
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: Mostly they have fought consistently. Yeah, that's the big thing.

828
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,519
They have been present and fought consistently regularly every thirty

829
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,679
forty five days. Yes, in a Golden Boy show or

830
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:26,159
pay per view.

831
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,519
Speaker 2: Yes, even with the contract expired, they were still doing business.

832
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,320
They were still trying to get this work. They get

833
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,400
a card one off in January. They just did the

834
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,000
recent show with Barbosa that was a second one off.

835
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,199
And so the fact that they're apparently able to get

836
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,079
this worked out and get it done. I don't know

837
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,440
what the terms are better or worse than previously, the

838
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,360
length of the agreement or whatever, but what in the

839
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,159
in the macro version of it, it means more Golden

840
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,199
Boy fights on to Zone now along with like you mentioned,

841
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,519
top Rank Queensberry, Frank Warren, and then you know, to

842
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:00,480
a smaller degree also you know the Salida promot, some

843
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,079
of the other They just did a deal with MF Pro,

844
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,119
which is the Sara Lens formerly Washerman Boxing. They put

845
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,480
on the Michael Collin card. They're the ones that are

846
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,920
putting on the upcoming event with the heavyweights between between

847
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:16,239
Derek Tassort and Deontay Wilder. So they're out there wrapping

848
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,639
a lot of folks up. So this will be just

849
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:19,760
another one of those deals.

850
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,199
Speaker 1: All right, A couple more because we've been here a minute.

851
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,280
Looks like Ryan Garcia is going to be back. We

852
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,800
already know that Devin Haney looks like he's fighting Roly Romero.

853
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,840
So if Garcia is fighting this summer, I'm saying this,

854
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,519
it's not likely. Devin Haty, what are you hearing about

855
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,159
when and who the opponent might be for Garcia.

856
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it definitely won't be a fight with Devin

857
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,440
Haney unless something goes sideways with the finalizing of the

858
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
deal with Roly Romero, because that would be a fight

859
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880
that takes place in May. It would be highly unlikely

860
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:50,519
that you'd see them come back in July for the fight.

861
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,360
And the reason I say July is because I spoke

862
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,920
to Guadelupe Valencia, who is Ryan Garcia's manager and attorney.

863
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,239
And remember and he had the victory against Brios in

864
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,280
February he won the WBC title. Was a brilliant performance

865
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,480
on Ryan after a lot of problems over the last

866
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:10,039
couple of years. He did injure his right hand in

867
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,840
the fight, and there was a lot of question marks

868
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,679
about like, well, how bad is it is it gonna,

869
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,320
you know, keep him out of the of the ring

870
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,960
for a while as it turnout, it was as as Guadeloupe. Then,

871
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,320
Lensi has said to me that this was just a

872
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,679
couple of days ago. The hand is much better. It

873
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,639
was a sprain. Luckily he just had arrested and he'll

874
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:30,920
start a full camp at the beginning of May, and

875
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,159
the plan is to come back in mid July and

876
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,960
be the headliner of a Ring magazine card that they'll

877
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,559
do obviously with de z Own and Golden Boy I

878
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,400
guess involved as well. Who the opponent will be not determined,

879
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,159
but it certainly ain't gonna be Devin Haney. That's a

880
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:45,840
fight that will still be there. That's a fight that

881
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,440
makes a lot of sense at some point, given all

882
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,960
the controversy from the first fight. But if he's out

883
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,559
there doing the Roly Romero fight, there are plenty of

884
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:56,800
welterweights that they can find to fight Ryan Garcia, you know,

885
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,280
who's got a big name in a certain level of popularity.

886
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,280
I don't think expected they'll put him in with like

887
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,400
the number one contender, but they there's fights they can

888
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,519
make for him and just put on a nice cart

889
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:08,880
a nice event and build towards the you know, not

890
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,559
too long of a build, doesn't need that long of

891
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,920
a build, but towards the eventual rematch against against.

892
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, there'll be a lot of intrigue around that.

893
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,119
One other note, and this was announced right by match

894
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,000
Room that Ben Whittaker's back and we don't got to

895
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,079
wait long. It's only going to be a few weeks

896
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,400
from now, right that the light heavyweight in England is back.

897
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ben Whitaker, the light heavyweight, top prospect,

898
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,880
the Olympic British Olympic silver medal winner from twenty twenty.

899
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,119
Spent his career so far with Boxer ended up when

900
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,639
that when their deal with Sky ended, his contract end

901
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:41,559
that he signed with Matchroom. He's had one fight with

902
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,159
them since he started with them. That was a pretty

903
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:50,119
uh you know, highlight reel first round knockout and a

904
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:51,400
lot of people are like, well, where is he know,

905
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,239
it's been a couple of months, why what's going on?

906
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,880
So he posted a video or he did a video

907
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,800
that Matchroom posted to their social where he was out

908
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440
there doing some roadwork saying listen it just four weeks

909
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,559
out of April eighteenth, Liverpool, England.

910
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: He's back in action.

911
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: They'll fight on the undercard the main event that night

912
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,719
in Liverpool, which is Callum Smith's hometown, where Callum will

913
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,280
defend the WBO's interim light heavyweight title against David Morel

914
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,719
which is a really good fight, and Ben Whittaker will

915
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,440
appear on that card. No opponent yet, but honestly, it's

916
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,360
not so much about the opponents, about getting Ben Whittaker

917
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,800
back and back in action. And remember when they did

918
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,280
the fight at the end of last year in November,

919
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,639
when he scored that big knockout against Gavazi, they were

920
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:27,280
talking about, Okay, we got the first one out of

921
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,280
the way with our new deal with the Mattrium, and

922
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,639
twenty twenty six is the year to really shine, to

923
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,320
take a big step up, to put together some activity,

924
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,639
to fight three or four times and really make a

925
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,559
run towards the top of the rankings. So we'll see

926
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,639
what kind of opponent they get for him for April eighteenth,

927
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,440
and if he can continue to develop and to bring

928
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960
some excitement and put some rear ends and seats and look,

929
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,840
he's a polarizing figure. A lot of people that tune

930
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,679
in for Ben Whittaker want to see him win. A

931
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,280
lot of people that tune in for Ben Whittaker wanted

932
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,679
to see you get his head knocked off. But you know,

933
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,760
whatever it is, as long as they're out there watching,

934
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,559
you can go a long way. He does have the talent.

935
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,039
There's no doubt. He's fast, he's got punching power. I've

936
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,119
said this numerous times when we've discussed his fights. I'd

937
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,880
like them to see him tone down the hot dog

938
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,599
aspect of it just a little bit. You can still

939
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,559
be entertaining, you can still put on a show, but

940
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:16,760
you don't have to be as wildly ridiculous as he

941
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,559
is sometimes. But the bottom line is he's a top prospect.

942
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,280
As I mentioned about Chop Chop Gonzales, Dan Witticker was

943
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,159
also among my top handful of prospects in boxing. A

944
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:28,719
really good athlete and he's a good boxer. He just

945
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,199
has to rain things in a little bit and get

946
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,280
the reps. I mean, he's not young, he is twenty

947
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eight years old, but he's only got eleven pro fights

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and he hasn't had the caliber of opposition that you

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need to get into the bigger fights. So that's what

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this year is supposed to be about. So hopefully he

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gets a halfway decent opponent for April eighteenth, then we

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see him in a good fight on this undercard.

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Speaker 1: So we'd like to say, get some relish, get some

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mustard on that hot dog, and let's see him actually

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fight and do some things in the ring. Besides all

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the hot dogging for Ben Whittaker, stay tuned with all

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of that. I think we got a full show here

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on the recap, sir. We look forward to everything that's

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going to go on with Sebastian Fundora and Keith Thurman

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fight week and a lot more for this week. Moses

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Etama is back in England. The heavyweight read up on

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Dan substack It is the fight Preach Unite a substack

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and newsletter. Congrats to your duke, Blue Devils moving on

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in the NCAA tournament. We got all the basketball mayhem

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going on. Great time of the year, great month of

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the year, Big Dan, have a good week. Love this

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stuff with the recap, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 3: All right, TJ, have a good week.

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Speaker 1: This off there goes Big Dan. Rayhaiel, I'm merely TJ

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Reeves follow subscribe on this pod, feed rates and review

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It's apples, Preaker, Spotify. We recap coming off the weekend.

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You've been with us on the Fight Preach Unit Recap podcast.