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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and I would
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Speaker 1: all happened in southern Ohio. My name is Wes Ruth
Speaker 1: and I am an investigator with the BFRO. And I
Speaker 1: am also a member of the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research
Speaker 1: Group and that group is headed up by Tom Jay
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky. I began my big footing journey actually
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. I growing up, I was an adamant disbeliever
Speaker 1: in bigfoot or almost any cryptid. I had seen some
Speaker 1: shows on TV that I was really kind of curious
Speaker 1: about one of them being the Jersey Devil the Pugwagie.
Speaker 1: I thought they were really interesting, but I didn't really
Speaker 1: believe even Bigfoot at all. I didn't see how it
Speaker 1: would be possible for a creature to be that large
Speaker 1: and exist in our modern world, you know, with all
Speaker 1: the cameras that we have, with all the people that
Speaker 1: traverse the woods, that squatters that live in the forest.
Speaker 1: There was just no way that a cryptid that large
Speaker 1: could exist on Earth in this day and age. I
Speaker 1: didn't discount the fact that there could have been at
Speaker 1: Bigfoot at one point in time, but I thought the
Speaker 1: whole idea was ludicrous. I wasn't even skeptical. It was
Speaker 1: just hardcore adamant this thing cannot possibly exist. You couldn't
Speaker 1: have shown me any evidence and me have accepted it.
Speaker 1: And I believe that's part of where we are today
Speaker 1: with the scientific community. It seems like there is an
Speaker 1: unwillingness to accept an abundance of evidence. And it may
Speaker 1: be just the same lines of thinking that I was
Speaker 1: going through. I really don't know. But my father, who's
Speaker 1: Dusty Ruth, he leads the expeditions for the bf R
Speaker 1: in Ohio. He had called me and asked me if
Speaker 1: I would go on an expedition with him in Kentucky
Speaker 1: with the kb R that group has headed up by
Speaker 1: Charlie Raymond, and I reluctantly agreed to go. I assumed, well,
Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen. I'm just going to go camping
Speaker 1: and then that's going to be pretty much it. Maybe
Speaker 1: someone might hoax, I don't know, try to give people
Speaker 1: a story to tell. I wasn't really sure what to expect.
Speaker 1: But leading up to the expedition, an attendee that's a regular,
Speaker 1: or I assume he still is, but he was a
Speaker 1: regular at those expeditions. His name is John Gregory. He
Speaker 1: had sent me a friend request and he was very
Speaker 1: welcoming when I got there, greeted me with a smile.
Speaker 1: Everyone down there just seemed very, very very friendly, very
Speaker 1: passionate about what they were doing. They really were adamant
Speaker 1: about their beliefs, and I got along with the people
Speaker 1: really well. I tried not to judge anyone based on
Speaker 1: their beliefs. I was honest about not believing, but I
Speaker 1: kind of took things in stride, and as the weekend progressed,
Speaker 1: I just began hearing and talks and lectures and hearing
Speaker 1: people talk. Some people even discussed topics like the forestry,
Speaker 1: how the government has began doing conservation efforts, and what
Speaker 1: those efforts included. And I thought that it was a
Speaker 1: really nice presentation because it wasn't just big foot facts.
Speaker 1: I was hearing more scientific arguments and about things that
Speaker 1: weren't crypted, and it really resonated with me, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was a really nice relief. But there was
Speaker 1: a night that we went on night ops and we
Speaker 1: went to a location not all that far from base camp.
Speaker 1: And on this drive, the ground is it's a very
Speaker 1: hilly area, but this road that we're on, the area
Speaker 1: around the road begins to get narrower and narrower until
Speaker 1: the road begins to enter in an area that is
Speaker 1: on a knoll, and surrounding the knoll is a very
Speaker 1: deep valley, and outside of that valley is a large hill.
Speaker 1: So at the area, we've sometimes referred to it as
Speaker 1: being like a fish bowl. Once we exited the vehicles,
Speaker 1: within two minutes, there was a knock to the north
Speaker 1: that was easily within one hundred yards, maybe even within
Speaker 1: fifty yards of our location, and it wasn't two or
Speaker 1: three seconds after that knock to the north that there
Speaker 1: was the sound. The best way I could describe it
Speaker 1: was a decent sized tree being pushed over. And when
Speaker 1: I heard the knock and I had seen the people
Speaker 1: at the expedition, I saw what teams they were going with,
Speaker 1: I was I don't even think I've ever admitted this
Speaker 1: to anyone, but I was studying the other people, trying
Speaker 1: to memorize who was going with what group, what people
Speaker 1: were staying at base camp, so I could take stock
Speaker 1: of exactly where everyone was in this area. Because again
Speaker 1: I didn't know if someone was gonna hoax and bring
Speaker 1: about an experience for people or what was going on.
Speaker 1: But I heard this knock and the sound of this knock.
Speaker 1: It's an issue that we sometimes bring up today, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't come up a lot. Is the home run knock.
Speaker 1: I know, if you find it a stick in the woods,
Speaker 1: you're going to be pretty hard pressed to slam it
Speaker 1: against a tree and make a sound like that. And
Speaker 1: it's really like maple baseball by at hitting a ball
Speaker 1: in a professional setting, and it's existing somewhere around fifty
Speaker 1: one hundred yards away from me, So it was really
Speaker 1: close and I didn't see how a person could make
Speaker 1: that sound, and I knew no one else was in
Speaker 1: that area. I had studied a topographic map, so I
Speaker 1: knew the terrain behind that area before we went, and
Speaker 1: it just wasn't logical that a person was back there.
Speaker 1: So we heard the knock and then the sound of
Speaker 1: what I would describe as a medium to large tree
Speaker 1: coming down, and then not too long after that, there
Speaker 1: is a single deer that comes into our vicinity stays
Speaker 1: near us, which is atypical. I'm not saying that deer
Speaker 1: do not approach human beings, but it's pretty rare that
Speaker 1: they do that, especially if you're not offering food, you're
Speaker 1: not offering shelter. The tips of a deer's ears being
Speaker 1: bent down might be a sign of malnourishment, in great distress.
Speaker 1: None of those things happened. We didn't have food. You
Speaker 1: know that, the tips of the deer's ears weren't pointed down.
Speaker 1: But the deer as it came close to us, and
Speaker 1: it just stood there. It kept turning its head looking
Speaker 1: to the hill that surrounded the knoll, and would check
Speaker 1: different spots periodically, and it was acting frantic about being
Speaker 1: what I would describe as being paranoid. And I didn't
Speaker 1: see a big foot in Kentucky at this point in time.
Speaker 1: Actually I don't. I haven't seen a big foot in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: But it was just a very, very bizarre incidence, and
Speaker 1: from a perspective of the non believer, I could no
Speaker 1: longer just look at this and say, well, it can't
Speaker 1: be a big foot. There's no such thing. There was
Speaker 1: actually substance to it, and despite not seeing it, it
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to the possibility of there being a bigfoot,
Speaker 1: or being multiple bigfoot in the woods. It was just
Speaker 1: a really interesting experience, and it was honestly kind of fantastic,
Speaker 1: even though I wasn't at this point, I wasn't a
Speaker 1: hardcore non believer. I was airing the realm of being skeptical.
Speaker 1: I just needed more proof. The next morning we woke
Speaker 1: up and I believe there were two people who had
Speaker 1: heard a bigfoot near camp. When I sleep, I am
Speaker 1: dead to the world. Absolutely. You might have to shake
Speaker 1: me to wake me up. But one of those people
Speaker 1: I believe was Ron Ron Leatherman. He had pointed to
Speaker 1: an area in the woods. It was about thirty yards
Speaker 1: away from where his tent was set up, and they
Speaker 1: had heard sounds, they heard something come into camp, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to think about it, because
Speaker 1: again I didn't hear anything that night, I didn't see anything.
Speaker 1: So they announced Tom Shay was at the expedition, and
Speaker 1: they announced that he was going to lead a small
Speaker 1: team out into the woods to try to find some tracks.
Speaker 1: And it didn't seem a lot of people were going
Speaker 1: to participate. I didn't know if they had something else
Speaker 1: that they wanted to do, or if they were wanting
Speaker 1: to take a nap, or what the circumstance was. But
Speaker 1: my dad wanted to go. He thought this would would
Speaker 1: be an incredible experience. So there was myself, my dad, Dusty, Ruth,
Speaker 1: Ben and Rich Taylor. Steve was going, Jim Wilcox was going.
Speaker 1: So Tom Shay let us out in the forest in
Speaker 1: a formation of a v. Tom Shay was a tracker,
Speaker 1: he was in the Army, and he led us out
Speaker 1: looking for tracks, and I ended up being the first
Speaker 1: person to find an impression in the ground that Tom
Speaker 1: Shay after evaluating it and said, yeah, this looks like
Speaker 1: a bigfoot. The one side detailed of this was that
Speaker 1: it wasn't a full impression of a foot.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Only about I would say, a quarter of the foot
Speaker 1: at most. And my father had casting powder and asked
Speaker 1: me if I wanted to cast it, and I said
Speaker 1: no today. I look back at it and realized if
Speaker 1: I had found it today, I would have cast it,
Speaker 1: but at the time I just said, no, that's okay,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to cast it. But from that
Speaker 1: individual track, Tom was able to get a bearing and
Speaker 1: track where this bigfoot had walked, and I ended up
Speaker 1: seeing the very next impression in the ground. I believe
Speaker 1: he found that one the next one and it was
Speaker 1: actually the full foot, and I thought, wow, this is incredible,
Speaker 1: and they found it. I believe maybe four more. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong about that, but after seeing all these
Speaker 1: tracks and seeing how they were individually different, it wasn't
Speaker 1: something you could have taken a mold and made, and
Speaker 1: so the whole experience really started opening my eyes to
Speaker 1: there quite possibly is a such thing as a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: It would have been one thing if the tracks had
Speaker 1: been all the exact same size and the exact same shape,
Speaker 1: the toes in the same position, but every single impression
Speaker 1: in the ground was unique, and if someone would have
Speaker 1: been out in the woods making these tracks, I would
Speaker 1: have known it was. It was just an incredible weekend.
Speaker 1: Charlie Raymond was a really good host, and it was
Speaker 1: it was so awesome to meet all these people. That's
Speaker 1: quite a few of them became really close friends of mine,
Speaker 1: and my father is still close friends with probably most
Speaker 1: of them that attended. It was just a really cool experienced,
Speaker 1: really cool people in a really cool place. We ended
Speaker 1: up coming back to his expeditions a few more times
Speaker 1: over the years, and I don't know how many outings
Speaker 1: my father had been on up to this point, but
Speaker 1: this was I believe late April of twenty nineteen. The
Speaker 1: next outing that I went to was two months later
Speaker 1: in June of twenty nineteen. And up until this point,
Speaker 1: my father had never seen a bigfoot, and he had
Speaker 1: been out quite a few times looking for bigfoot. He
Speaker 1: was a firm believer in bigfoot. He watched all the shows.
Speaker 1: And when I say all the shows, I truly mean
Speaker 1: all the shows. And I used to laugh about it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just the most ridiculous thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm so opposite. I don't even watch TV. That's how
Speaker 1: opposite I am. I don't believe in Bigfoot. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to watch this show. Are you seriously watching this dad? Well,
Speaker 1: we went on the expedition in Ohio that was hosted
Speaker 1: by the BFRORO. So this is two months later and
Speaker 1: the very first night, my father is leading a team
Speaker 1: and on this team there are some other people that
Speaker 1: are BFRO. One of them is Lorie John Gregory came
Speaker 1: amazing guy. I got to hang out with him again,
Speaker 1: and we had a few more people on the team
Speaker 1: and we ended up going to a place that was
Speaker 1: a trailhead. This is in southern Ohio and all of
Speaker 1: my sidings are are in southern Ohio. It's it's a
Speaker 1: it's not that northern Ohio. You can't see a big
Speaker 1: Foot up there, because you can absolutely there have been
Speaker 1: some reports of sidings recently in northern Ohio. I live
Speaker 1: in southern Ohio and it's it's just a fantastic place
Speaker 1: to have an experience, really homely area. I love the hills,
Speaker 1: I love the forest down here. It's just home. So
Speaker 1: we're on a trailhead set up, but it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: deep in the forest and if I remember correctly, you
Speaker 1: don't even have cell phone service this area. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are in the sticks. So as soon as we
Speaker 1: pull into this area, we set up our chairs in
Speaker 1: a circle, all facing each other so we can look
Speaker 1: over each other's backs and shoulders to make sure we
Speaker 1: can see what's going on around us. And I believe
Speaker 1: there are seven of us in this group. And we
Speaker 1: begin hearing very gentle footfalls in the forest. And one
Speaker 1: of the incredible things and frustrating is that some of
Speaker 1: the loudest sounds you'll hear in the forest that come
Speaker 1: from an animal are going to be the smallest. The squirrels.
Speaker 1: They're going to tear things up and chip monks and
Speaker 1: really cause a racket. But it's just so amazing that
Speaker 1: something so large could be so quiet. Actually, when a
Speaker 1: bigfoot was walking, the footfall just the foot actually managed
Speaker 1: to land on a small stick and you'd hear a
Speaker 1: little snap, and it could have been a large stick
Speaker 1: as well, because of the possible foot padding, all that
Speaker 1: fat mass on the bottom of the foot dampening the
Speaker 1: sound of you know, six hundred to one thousand pounds
Speaker 1: being could really dampen that sound. So it kind of
Speaker 1: got our attention and at first, the footfalls were happening
Speaker 1: very slowly and sporadically, seemed to come from one very
Speaker 1: general area, definitely within fifty yards of us, but we
Speaker 1: really didn't see anything. There was a lot of vegetation,
Speaker 1: quite a few trees in the area on one side
Speaker 1: of the trailhead where all the sounds were coming from
Speaker 1: the other side of the trail starts to go down
Speaker 1: and gets a little bit more steep and more steep
Speaker 1: as it goes down the hill, and on the other
Speaker 1: side of us. As soon as you clear the trailhead
Speaker 1: the train it's fairly flat, but you have to go
Speaker 1: up a hill maybe five ten feet, but then it
Speaker 1: gets gently rolling. But all these sounds were coming from
Speaker 1: down the hill, and then a few minutes later, out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, things begin getting thrown. At first we begin
Speaker 1: to think that maybe there's debris falling out of the trees.
Speaker 1: It happens, but being June isn't really the month that
Speaker 1: we expect a lot of debris falling. And the fall definitely,
Speaker 1: I've heard so many walnuts and acorns coming down the fall.
Speaker 1: It gets loud very quick, but being in June, we
Speaker 1: didn't really expect it. What we thought it was natural
Speaker 1: because there were so few coming down at first, but
Speaker 1: then when we begin to figure out that they're actually
Speaker 1: being thrown, that kind of was a game changer for us.
Speaker 1: Well more, an more acorns get thrown, and one of
Speaker 1: these acorns managed to hit a kid that was on
Speaker 1: our team. His name is Wyatt. He was fourteen. He
Speaker 1: absolutely pelted and I don't mean to laugh about it,
Speaker 1: but it was just the shock and surprise of him
Speaker 1: getting pelted. Me. He hollered something out I don't even remember,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of funny. But he didn't get
Speaker 1: seriously injured, but it was just the shock and surprise
Speaker 1: and how he handled it was just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of funny. He didn't get freaked out, which is a
Speaker 1: really good thing. But after that, a Wyatt brought his
Speaker 1: thermal with him. He had a fleer, maybe a TK model,
Speaker 1: and he was scanning the area and my father had
Speaker 1: his fleaer with him, and they were sort of sitting
Speaker 1: on opposite sides of the circle, so Whyatt was looking
Speaker 1: over my dad's back and my dad was looking over
Speaker 1: Whyatt's back. A little while later, the footfalls begin to
Speaker 1: get louder, and to me it sounded like they weren't
Speaker 1: just occurring in one general area anymore. They were still
Speaker 1: happening where we first heard them, in the direction that
Speaker 1: the acorns were coming from, but they were also happening
Speaker 1: within maybe seventy five yards of us, in a different direction.
Speaker 1: So if one was happening, the majority of it was
Speaker 1: happening to the south. I began hearing footfalls happening off
Speaker 1: to the west. And then Whyatt exclaims while looking out
Speaker 1: of his thermal, I see bigfoot and my father doesn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was thinking when he heard it,
Speaker 1: but you never know, because some people have mistaken claims
Speaker 1: where they believe they see or hear something, but they're
Speaker 1: just mistaken about what it is. So my father just says, oh, really, well,
Speaker 1: where is it? And my father is passing his thermal
Speaker 1: back and forth between him and I so I can
Speaker 1: get a chance to look and kind of get a
Speaker 1: feel for the for the monocular, and at this point
Speaker 1: in time, I have his monocular. So when my father
Speaker 1: asks why where the bigfoot is, WHYAT whispers to him,
Speaker 1: it's right behind you. And it really shocked my dad.
Speaker 1: That was kind of funny. Also, so at this point,
Speaker 1: why it's the only one that's seen it. We don't
Speaker 1: know if that's exactly what he's seeing or not. But
Speaker 1: I decide to take a look and see if I
Speaker 1: can try to identify why it is looking at and
Speaker 1: we are both, I believe, using white hot settings. So
Speaker 1: I start scanning the area behind my father, and unfortunately,
Speaker 1: when you look through night vision and a thermal monocular
Speaker 1: or any type of thermal camera, if you have a
Speaker 1: a heat source or a large image in front of
Speaker 1: what you're trying to view, the background can get blurred
Speaker 1: out or get water out because of the heat or
Speaker 1: the radiating light coming off of an object, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're using a night vision. But I end up
Speaker 1: looking around my father and I see a little bit
Speaker 1: of something on beside a tree, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. It's sort of is the same color
Speaker 1: of the tree in my mind, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what to think. The next thing I know is this
Speaker 1: white hot setting. If something is abnormally hot compared to
Speaker 1: its surroundings, it will be maybe like a pinkish or
Speaker 1: almost red. I see these dots that look like there's
Speaker 1: space about three inches apart in the area, and the
Speaker 1: seat signature was to the left of the tree. To
Speaker 1: the left of the tree in that area, I see
Speaker 1: these two blazing hot little circles that are about three
Speaker 1: maybe four inches apart, I can't tell. And then it's
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it dawned on me, Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you're if you view eyeballs through a fermal monocular, they're
Speaker 1: going to glow just like this is. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I stood up, but I know I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it because it just floored me. Because I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: down this hill, there can't be a person down this hill.
Speaker 1: Something is standing there on two feet, peeking out behind
Speaker 1: a tree, and I know it's not human, and so
Speaker 1: I am just absolutely blown away, and I just stay
Speaker 1: to the group. I see it. I see what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. That's a bigfoot. And I had asked my
Speaker 1: father if so. They asked me questions and about how
Speaker 1: far away it is, how big it is. Of course,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never seen this place in
Speaker 1: the light. I don't know the size of these trees,
Speaker 1: so I can't really answer many other questions except the
Speaker 1: general area of where it is. So I asked my
Speaker 1: father if he wanted to look at it and he
Speaker 1: did well. He tried to turn and couldn't see it.
Speaker 1: So I said, well, why don't you slowly stand up,
Speaker 1: come over to one where I am, turn around, and
Speaker 1: I'll guide you to the area. So he did that
Speaker 1: and couldn't see it. Well. Then I had to move
Speaker 1: his hand while he's holding the thermal to the area
Speaker 1: and then he saw it. And Whyatt at the time
Speaker 1: was recording with his with this flear so we were
Speaker 1: able to obtain the footage from that the next morning
Speaker 1: when we got back. Well, more sounds were heard that night,
Speaker 1: and Whyatt was able to keep an eye on on
Speaker 1: the big foot. But while when my father was done,
Speaker 1: he handed the thermal back to me and I went
Speaker 1: back to where I was sitting. But Bori had kept
Speaker 1: reminding people it checked the trees, checked the area surrounding us,
Speaker 1: because you don't always know what's going on on other
Speaker 1: sides of you, so you need to be aware of
Speaker 1: all of your surroundings, not just where you see a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: So I began scanning in other areas and up the
Speaker 1: trail about seventy five to one hundred yards away, I
Speaker 1: saw a different bigfoot crossing the trail. And again I
Speaker 1: saw the eyes glowing and I could see that it
Speaker 1: was walking on two feet, and I was florida. How
Speaker 1: it moved. It was so bizarre because the feet were moving,
Speaker 1: its head was pointed at me the whole time. It
Speaker 1: was looking at me, but it was like it's chest
Speaker 1: wasn't going up and down. If we were taking steps
Speaker 1: as humans, you might expect the shoulders to go up
Speaker 1: and down when we went, but this thing wasn't doing that.
Speaker 1: And I could see the legs moving, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: see shoulders going up and down, So it was it
Speaker 1: really confused me, and I could hear more footfalls coming
Speaker 1: in from behind me. So the trail where I saw
Speaker 1: the big foot crossing was to the west, where I
Speaker 1: could hear footfalls happening to the north behind me and
Speaker 1: to the east, And in my mind, I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 1: there's several of them around us, and I can't see them.
Speaker 1: So I can't say that for certain, but to this day,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was possible that we saw two
Speaker 1: and there were possibly two or three more that we
Speaker 1: didn't see around us. And that next day we were
Speaker 1: interviewed by Mark der Worth on what we saw and
Speaker 1: what occurred, and we went back to investigate the scene,
Speaker 1: and I believe that there were either four or five,
Speaker 1: maybe even six tracks that were cast at this occurrence.
Speaker 1: I know Kenny and Jack Brown found some tracks and
Speaker 1: where everyone was going to the location where this the
Speaker 1: majority of the people who saw the bigfoot, they owe
Speaker 1: everybody doing the investigation went down there. Ri I told
Speaker 1: Mary Ross to come with me and we went up
Speaker 1: the trail and I said there was a bigfoot that
Speaker 1: was up here. Ended up finding it at track and
Speaker 1: casting it and it was It was just incredible. So
Speaker 1: that was on Thursday night. Friday night, nothing happens for
Speaker 1: our group except there was a large handprint found on
Speaker 1: the back of one of my father's jeeps and we
Speaker 1: got a lot of photos of it. And Saturday night
Speaker 1: nothing happens at all. But it was a great experience.
Speaker 1: But Saturday, the meal was catered and I was cooking
Speaker 1: with John Gregory all weekend for the expedition, and I
Speaker 1: was loading up on some of that food and I
Speaker 1: had brought a lot of pop tarts. Supper comes around,
Speaker 1: we have a big catered meal and I am stuffed.
Speaker 1: So I decided, well, I'm just going to take the
Speaker 1: food and leave it behind the gift. So we get
Speaker 1: ready to leave and we go back to the same spot,
Speaker 1: but my father's telling me, oh, don't take that food
Speaker 1: with us. You know you could attract more than you
Speaker 1: bargained for, which we actually did find out to be true.
Speaker 1: We came back a couple weeks later and a tree
Speaker 1: was torn up by a bear, and I took so
Speaker 1: many photos. I was impressed, so I'm glad I didn't
Speaker 1: take that food. But he convinced me to take a
Speaker 1: couple tens of sardines and some pham balls from a
Speaker 1: presentation that my father gave about psychology, interviewing and witnesses
Speaker 1: of their credibility. It was a really good presentation, but
Speaker 1: he handed out these phone balls. He had a lot extra,
Speaker 1: so I took two of those with me and I
Speaker 1: left the ten up there. I left the the phone balls.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened, but we had a good time while we
Speaker 1: were up there, and that's what it's all about. You
Speaker 1: may not see or hear anything, but you know, if
Speaker 1: you can have a good time with the people you're out,
Speaker 1: it's worth it. So I leave these items behind. We
Speaker 1: go back to camp the next morning. Everyone is saying
Speaker 1: they're goodbyes, and one of the attendees comes up and
Speaker 1: he knew that our team was up there at the
Speaker 1: same spot, and he asks about the area and it
Speaker 1: being all torn up, and I'm thinking, great, what did
Speaker 1: we do? And he went up there to gift also,
Speaker 1: but he had just done it before coming back to
Speaker 1: base camp. And when he told us the area was
Speaker 1: torn up, we decided to go up there and check
Speaker 1: it out. And we brought the evidence collecting pack with us,
Speaker 1: and Bo Bruns was pulling in, so we tell Bo
Speaker 1: to get in the car, let's go. So Bo comes
Speaker 1: with us, and Bo and I put on gloves and
Speaker 1: we go up there and something had torn one of
Speaker 1: the sardine tins open, something had bit through the other
Speaker 1: sardine tin, and then the two phone balls those had
Speaker 1: big chunks of them bitten out, chewed up, and the
Speaker 1: pieces spat back out. Both the balls were identical, so
Speaker 1: we collected all that and then pieces of those ball
Speaker 1: are pieces of one of the balls ended up being
Speaker 1: sent to a university for DNA testing, and then it
Speaker 1: subsequently ended up being transferred to North Carolina State University
Speaker 1: where Darby Orcutt is doing a study, but it was
Speaker 1: just it was incredible because I had this experience in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I heard a knock. I got to hear that the
Speaker 1: very first expedition I was on. It sounded like a
Speaker 1: tree came down. I didn't see anything, but I saw
Speaker 1: some tracks. And then two months later I got to
Speaker 1: actually see one. It was with a funmal, not with
Speaker 1: my own two eyes daylight. It wasn't it wasn't that,
Speaker 1: but it was still incredible. It was absolutely amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I went from this thing cannot exist to Wow, these
Speaker 1: things are out there. Man. It was just awesome. So
Speaker 1: after experiencing that, I got a little bit heavy into casting.
Speaker 1: I was learning more about it. I was learning more
Speaker 1: how to do it, and it was it was something
Speaker 1: that I could manage. My father had a lot of
Speaker 1: casting powder, and you know, it was a cool way
Speaker 1: to collect evidence. And you're not going to have a
Speaker 1: sighting left and right, but you can still go out,
Speaker 1: keep your eyes peeled. You could find tracks, and it
Speaker 1: was just something I could really get a part of that.
Speaker 1: It didn't take a ton of money to do. There
Speaker 1: was some learning about it, but it was it was
Speaker 1: very manageable. And then my next experience was being at
Speaker 1: a private location in southern Ohio. Again, it must have
Speaker 1: been only a few months later. We were out in
Speaker 1: a private area and while there on the ridgeline above us,
Speaker 1: my father and I were out and we were being
Speaker 1: paralleled and we were kind of talking, maybe a regular
Speaker 1: volume conversation out in the forest. We're all alone out there,
Speaker 1: and there's a pause in the conversation and we stop moving,
Speaker 1: and then we can hear up above us these steps,
Speaker 1: these footfalls occurring, and then all of a sudden, they stopped,
Speaker 1: and we both kind of noticed it, but we didn't
Speaker 1: say anything, so we continued on walking and talking, and
Speaker 1: then we could hear between our words there were slight
Speaker 1: sounds up on the ridge. We never got to see anything,
Speaker 1: but it was just another really cool experience. And then
Speaker 1: when my father was a part of the Northern Kentucky
Speaker 1: Bigfoot research group with Tom Shay, and then I was
Speaker 1: invited to go and be a part of that group.
Speaker 1: We went down to northern Kentucky to scout out a
Speaker 1: location and while we were there, my father and I
Speaker 1: with Tom Shay. Tom wasn't going to be able to
Speaker 1: make get to the next outing and he wanted to
Speaker 1: show my father this spot so when the group was
Speaker 1: able to go, they would know exactly where it was.
Speaker 1: I got bored was just standing around. If we're in
Speaker 1: the woods, just standing around looking around while some conversations
Speaker 1: are going on isn't really my thing. I'd rather be
Speaker 1: doing something. I'm constantly on the move. So they were
Speaker 1: having some conversation that was meaningful to them, and I
Speaker 1: just thought, well, if I'm in the forest, I might
Speaker 1: as well look around and take some photographs see what
Speaker 1: I can see. And about ten or fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 1: I was absolutely floored because it is almost November, and
Speaker 1: to me, it looks like a little kid had been
Speaker 1: walking through the forest barefoot and it had been pouring
Speaker 1: down rain recently. And I couldn't fathom. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we're you know, we're not in an urban area,
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine who would let their kid run
Speaker 1: around barefoot. So I took a photo and I went
Speaker 1: back to where my father and Tom were standing talking,
Speaker 1: and I think they could tell by the look on
Speaker 1: my face that I had seen something. And Tom looked
Speaker 1: at me and said, what's going on? I said, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it. There has been a little kid out
Speaker 1: here walking around in the woods barefoot, and Tom said,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? So I showed him the photograph
Speaker 1: and he said, you're kidding and I said no. So
Speaker 1: he said, well, that ain't a little kid, that's a
Speaker 1: juvenile Bigfoot. I said I was. I was so shocked
Speaker 1: that he said that. And he said, well, where was it?
Speaker 1: So I walked over there, and I think they drove
Speaker 1: back to the spot and Tom got the looking at
Speaker 1: and studying the track and he said, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: a juvenile on Bigfoot. So then we had casting powder,
Speaker 1: but we didn't have water. So my father drove down
Speaker 1: the road to go get water. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he got it out of a creek or where he
Speaker 1: got it, but he comes back with water. So I
Speaker 1: start casting. And when I was casting, we're all just
Speaker 1: in these launch airs waiting for the cast to set up,
Speaker 1: and we're using the hydrostone, so the process really heats
Speaker 1: up when it cures. But it's fairly cold. Well it's not,
Speaker 1: you know, thirties, but it's pretty cool, so it's going
Speaker 1: to take some time. So while we're sitting waiting on
Speaker 1: this this track is set up, Tom looks over and said, well,
Speaker 1: there's another one. But this one was enormous. I had
Speaker 1: never seen a track this large. It was about I
Speaker 1: want to say, twenty one inches if memory serves, and
Speaker 1: the ground was obliterated. This thing is literally four or
Speaker 1: five inches deep into the ground. I could not wrap
Speaker 1: my mind around what I was So we we start
Speaker 1: casting that one, and I thought Tom was going to
Speaker 1: cast it, and he basically said, well, you need experience.
Speaker 1: He said, well you can if you want cast and
Speaker 1: cast it. You know, you get your experience in. I
Speaker 1: don't mind. So I cast it, and then we're waiting
Speaker 1: for that second one to set up and finish curing
Speaker 1: so we can remove them out of the ground. Tom
Speaker 1: looks over again, well there's another one. And to me,
Speaker 1: I had seen these holes in the ground, but I
Speaker 1: just thought someone drove back there. They started to get
Speaker 1: their tires stuck and band up, throwing a bunch of
Speaker 1: a debris out of the grass and just tore the area.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was looking for. I'd only
Speaker 1: been big footing for I don't know, seven eight months,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it's it's just unreal. And to
Speaker 1: this day I occasionally dig those barge casts back out
Speaker 1: just to just to examine them, just because at that
Speaker 1: point and and my big footing period of my life,
Speaker 1: I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around
Speaker 1: around it because there is one in Tom's area that
Speaker 1: has been named Goliath, and it's just it still seems
Speaker 1: crazy to me that there is a being walking around
Speaker 1: in the woods that is that massive. It's just awesome.
Speaker 1: Is awesome. One of the things that my father and
Speaker 1: I are into is ledrs long duration recorders, and this
Speaker 1: process involves taking parts and sometimes making your own. So
Speaker 1: you're going to set up a unit that you can
Speaker 1: put in the forest where it is going to record
Speaker 1: audio for you. Your typical batteries are going to last you
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a week on full strength, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to have to keep coming back out in the
Speaker 1: woods every week grabbing your recorder and seeing what you
Speaker 1: got in the past seven days. You want to be
Speaker 1: able to set something out in the woods, come back
Speaker 1: a month later, maybe five six weeks later, pick up
Speaker 1: your LDR. You can swap the batteries out, you can
Speaker 1: swap the SD card out, put new ones in, and
Speaker 1: then take your batteries with you. Plug in your SD
Speaker 1: card when you get home and see what audio you've got,
Speaker 1: And you can use a free software called Audacity and
Speaker 1: use a spectrogram where you can see what audio is
Speaker 1: being created out in the woods. You don't just have
Speaker 1: to listen to eight to ten hours a night. You
Speaker 1: can actually scan through it with your eyes and spot
Speaker 1: check your audio, see what's going on. So and our
Speaker 1: hobby as of twenty nineteen, I'd believe that my father
Speaker 1: had one or two LDRs made for him, but once
Speaker 1: I got involved, he told me that I should start
Speaker 1: making them. So I think that we have made close
Speaker 1: to twenty one LDRs for us so far. We've had
Speaker 1: up to eight of them out at a time in
Speaker 1: the woods in various places public land, private land, collecting
Speaker 1: a lot of audio over the years, and one spot
Speaker 1: in particular is where we have an incredible piece of
Speaker 1: evidence from We went there to retrieve an LDR and
Speaker 1: then take the batteries and SD card out of it,
Speaker 1: put new batteries in, a new SD card and the
Speaker 1: LDR and hang it back up in the woods. And
Speaker 1: that's fine. Well. At the time, we were using a
Speaker 1: GoPro that was attached to a helmet that at this
Speaker 1: point in time I was wearing. Sometimes he would wear it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'd mount it to our chest. But it got
Speaker 1: to be a lot easier and better for the video
Speaker 1: to have it on your head, because if you're doing
Speaker 1: things with your hands, you could block the camera's view
Speaker 1: if it's attached to your chest. So just put it
Speaker 1: on a helmet, and I'm wearing it. I have to
Speaker 1: traverse this very steep hill to get down to the LDR,
Speaker 1: and then traverse the hill, count the comeback up, change everything,
Speaker 1: and then bring it back down, then come back up. Well.
Speaker 1: On the trip down to place the l they are
Speaker 1: in the tree. I don't really know where my father is,
Speaker 1: but there are times when something that's happening in the
Speaker 1: forest and you need to get quiet or you need
Speaker 1: to pay attention, and it can happen in a split second.
Speaker 1: Usually he my father might say hey, West, or might
Speaker 1: snap his fingers. But I'm I'm more than sixty yards
Speaker 1: away from at this point, and I am trying not
Speaker 1: to fall while going down the hill, And the next
Speaker 1: thing I know is a rock whizzes past my head
Speaker 1: and hits the ground in front of me, So it
Speaker 1: comes from behind me, goes past my right ear, and
Speaker 1: then hits not only the ground, but it hits the
Speaker 1: ground that is within a foot of the tree that
Speaker 1: I hang the LDR in. So instantly my mind does
Speaker 1: not go to Bigfoot. My mind goes to my father,
Speaker 1: thinking I need to get quiet. I'm making too much noise,
Speaker 1: or he wanted to get my attention, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: hear him because I do have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hearing problem on my left ear. So I thought, well,
Speaker 1: he wanted my attention, So I look up, try to
Speaker 1: find where he is, and I yell out, did you
Speaker 1: just throw a rock at me? And of course he
Speaker 1: is far enough a way that he can't hear a
Speaker 1: word I'm saying. So I keep my eyes on where
Speaker 1: the rock came from, and then realized it came from downhill,
Speaker 1: and somehow the rock was thrown it arcd and was
Speaker 1: coming down when it whizz past my head. So it
Speaker 1: came from down far below me, and I knew my
Speaker 1: father wasn't down the hill, he was up on top
Speaker 1: of the hill. Soon I get up there, I tell
Speaker 1: him about this experience, and I show him the video
Speaker 1: of it, and you can hear that rock whizzing past
Speaker 1: my head. But I fully believe they could hurt you
Speaker 1: in a drop of a dime. It wouldn't even be
Speaker 1: an issue. They could just do it and then you know,
Speaker 1: it would be a problem. But if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: I think they could have hurt me. But it was
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. At the time, I was kind
Speaker 1: of peeved. I thought he threw a rock, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know why he would throw a rock period. Plus
Speaker 1: I don't know why he would, you know, get it
Speaker 1: so close to my head. But I was a little frustrated,
Speaker 1: and my line did not go to Bigfoot. It didn't
Speaker 1: go to Bigfoot until I realized the rock didn't come
Speaker 1: from on top of the hill, but it came from
Speaker 1: down the hill. So my next sighting was in September
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. It was at another BFRO expedition.
Speaker 1: It was also in Southern Ohio. Southern Ohio is a
Speaker 1: great place to see a Bigfoot. There are several states
Speaker 1: that have a lot of activity going on. I believe
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is one of the big ones. Michigan's one of
Speaker 1: the big ones. Going out to the Pacific northwest, you
Speaker 1: can see him. But it's just easy for us because
Speaker 1: we're in southern Ohio. We know they're here, we know
Speaker 1: where they are. It's just incredible. So this expedition, I
Speaker 1: don't recall what night of the expedition it was, but
Speaker 1: the team leader was Laurie. Laurie had scouted out around
Speaker 1: this area and found a spot where we could set
Speaker 1: up for night ops. There were probably eight of us
Speaker 1: at this location this night, and while we were there,
Speaker 1: they had gotten dark. I had brought a small firestarter
Speaker 1: log and she I think brought another firestarter log. I
Speaker 1: started one and it didn't do so well, and then
Speaker 1: she started another, and then with a an hour of
Speaker 1: us being there, maybe forty five minutes, small rocks begin
Speaker 1: being thrown. We are on top of a ridge and
Speaker 1: it was similar to the location in Kentucky, except the
Speaker 1: road in was a lot shorter. But everywhere around us well,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're on a large hill. Everywhere around this
Speaker 1: decreases in elevation quickly. But rocks are being up thrown
Speaker 1: up the hill from down below, and it seems like
Speaker 1: they are coming from different directions. At some points, we
Speaker 1: can hear rocks hitting, but we can't see the rocks
Speaker 1: hitting anything. We can't see where they bounce. But we
Speaker 1: can hear them hitting the ground. We're hitting other rocks,
Speaker 1: and then you are I want to say southeast. We
Speaker 1: hear footfalls, but they don't sound like bigfoot. We hear
Speaker 1: these footfalls, and then we ended up seeing a deer again.
Speaker 1: It was a deer came up to us, within twenty
Speaker 1: feet of us and just stayed there. This deer would
Speaker 1: not leave. Marcia Clarke had a at the time. She's
Speaker 1: an attendee. I don't believe that she was bfro yet,
Speaker 1: but she had her thermal and she was scanning. I
Speaker 1: believe I had a. I might have had night vision
Speaker 1: with me. I don't recall, but several members of the
Speaker 1: team had thermals. And eventually we stood up and we
Speaker 1: began looking around the hill and down at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the hill, on the I think west side of
Speaker 1: the hill. At the bottom, Marcia claimed that she saw
Speaker 1: a bigfoot. It was standing amongst the trees, but it
Speaker 1: was not behind a tree. It was standing out and
Speaker 1: broad View was not trying to hide. So others of
Speaker 1: us in our group began scanning and saw what Marcia saw.
Speaker 1: And Marcia saw this bigfoot and was recording with her thermal,
Speaker 1: and we all got a really good look at this bigfoot,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what we did, but it is
Speaker 1: my opinion that we either because of the deer or
Speaker 1: something were else we were doing. But it is my
Speaker 1: opinion that we upset this bigfoot. This bigfoot turns around,
Speaker 1: runs and storms off through the woods, and after that
Speaker 1: we never encountered a bigfoot for the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: This bigfoot runs back towards base camp and we don't
Speaker 1: see it again. But this, oh, this was the last
Speaker 1: night of the expedition. I went out the next morning
Speaker 1: to pick up our one of our LDRs at base camp,
Speaker 1: and I had seen it the day before during the daylight.
Speaker 1: But now when I went to collect the LDR to
Speaker 1: take it home, it was gone, completely gone, and in
Speaker 1: its place there was a marble on the ground. So
Speaker 1: I can't say that a bigfoot decided to trade with
Speaker 1: us or what I know. Others at the expedition found
Speaker 1: marbles on the ground in base camp, so I can't
Speaker 1: say what exactly that was about. But the whole thing
Speaker 1: was odd, and I do believe that we upset the
Speaker 1: big foot. In May of twenty twenty three, we had
Speaker 1: been alerted well, my father had been alerted about a
Speaker 1: trackway in southern Ohio and the next day we were
Speaker 1: able to go down and investigate the area. And over
Speaker 1: the next couple of days I was able to go
Speaker 1: down independently. It takes a while to get down there,
Speaker 1: so I was traveling three hours and just to cast
Speaker 1: several tracks and come back and then do it again.
Speaker 1: And there has been a lot of outcry about the
Speaker 1: DNA studies and you know, whether or not they were valid,
Speaker 1: what happened with those and what I can say through
Speaker 1: my process of being an investigator with the Northern Kentucky
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Research Group and being a part of the BFRO
Speaker 1: that as investigators and researchers, we need to do our part.
Speaker 1: We need to follow the scientific method. We need to
Speaker 1: collect evidence properly, store it properly, eliminate any potential part
Speaker 1: of contamination that could happen. And you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a process. It's frustrating, but we just need to remember
Speaker 1: the joy and the hobby and it's trying to have
Speaker 1: a good time with it. And if we have an experience,
Speaker 1: it's great. You know, you can come join us anytime
Speaker 1: at an expedition. You'll be lifelong friends. With the people
Speaker 1: you meet, you'll learn a lot, You'll have a great time,
Speaker 1: and it's been really amazing to be a part of,
Speaker 1: you know, the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research Group and the
Speaker 1: BFRO and if nothing else, I can't imagine where my
Speaker 1: life would be if I hadn't had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: get out in the woods as often as I do now.
Speaker 1: So I've had a few experiences and I've been able
Speaker 1: to share a couple with you, have had several more
Speaker 1: and was able to investigate further. And you know, Southern Ohio.
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about it. And there's some other
Speaker 1: great places, and I appreciate you'd be willing to stick
Speaker 1: with me. And here's some of my stories. So thank you.
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Speaker 2: Bunch of run down no horse towns where the church
Speaker 2: is the backbone lows.
Speaker 3: And the Bow and the Fasting melodies coove in, but the.
Speaker 2: Bomb man rose with a roos run deep beyond the
Speaker 2: nose of.
Speaker 3: The busy streets with the songs of the South O
Speaker 3: su then I mean I hear the promp porch picking
Speaker 3: down home rhythm, bringing out add on run from banjam music.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the sound of a memory brings me back to
Speaker 5: the bluegrass playing the Madadi jack become and it been
Speaker 5: through it, getting through the tea on scrugs and skaggs,
Speaker 5: bucking name bears through this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 1: There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 2: And I hit a boum boat packing down on rhythm,
Speaker 2: bringing out that over run from banjong music.
Speaker 6: Yeah, someone going backwards backwards and double tip faking and
Speaker 6: the sword and the strumming look and tuck start.
Speaker 1: There's nothing in the strumming now country boy living mom.
Speaker 6: And I hit a bom boat picking down rhythm, bringing
Speaker 6: us that all from from then using.
Speaker 5: The city laugh drowsed me wid on the dune gods.
Speaker 3: Rushing back with the bass on the stoos to man.
Speaker 6: And I had a brown bod picking down one r
Speaker 6: the bringing nuts run from bunch of music. Yeah, summing gallop,
Speaker 6: back words, backwoods and double tim picking in the sword
Speaker 6: and the strumming lo Kentucky stars because athing and strumming down,
Speaker 6: country boy living and get a bad, bad picking down rhythm,
Speaker 6: bringing us paddle from the bedroom, summing gallop, back words
Speaker 6: backwards and double town packing and the soul and the drumming,
Speaker 6: hook and tucks time because of the head of Trumen.
Speaker 1: Now country Boy leaving.
Speaker 2: And I hear a bout ports picking down the Mad
Speaker 2: Chick and Botswin Mona's been sweet teak kind of sounds
Speaker 2: around music