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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of my big foot sighting. All right, then

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen a bunch of rundown no horse towns where the

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<v Speaker 2>church at the backbone, laws and the bow and the

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<v Speaker 2>fasting melodies coove in with the bomb man rose with

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<v Speaker 2>the roofs run deep beyond the nose of the busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Streets with the songs of the South of su Then.

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<v Speaker 2>When I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>bringing out I Don't run from Banjung music.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to be a guest, please go to my Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>sighting dot com and let me know. My bigfoot sightings

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<v Speaker 1>all happened in southern Ohio. My name is Wes Ruth

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<v Speaker 1>and I am an investigator with the BFRO. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am also a member of the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research

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<v Speaker 1>Group and that group is headed up by Tom Jay

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<v Speaker 1>out of Kentucky. I began my big footing journey actually

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. I growing up, I was an adamant disbeliever

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<v Speaker 1>in bigfoot or almost any cryptid. I had seen some

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<v Speaker 1>shows on TV that I was really kind of curious

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<v Speaker 1>about one of them being the Jersey Devil the Pugwagie.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were really interesting, but I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>believe even Bigfoot at all. I didn't see how it

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<v Speaker 1>would be possible for a creature to be that large

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<v Speaker 1>and exist in our modern world, you know, with all

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras that we have, with all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>traverse the woods, that squatters that live in the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just no way that a cryptid that large

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<v Speaker 1>could exist on Earth in this day and age. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't discount the fact that there could have been at

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot at one point in time, but I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea was ludicrous. I wasn't even skeptical. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just hardcore adamant this thing cannot possibly exist. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have shown me any evidence and me have accepted it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe that's part of where we are today

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<v Speaker 1>with the scientific community. It seems like there is an

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<v Speaker 1>unwillingness to accept an abundance of evidence. And it may

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<v Speaker 1>be just the same lines of thinking that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going through. I really don't know. But my father, who's

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<v Speaker 1>Dusty Ruth, he leads the expeditions for the bf R

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio. He had called me and asked me if

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<v Speaker 1>I would go on an expedition with him in Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>with the kb R that group has headed up by

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Raymond, and I reluctantly agreed to go. I assumed, well,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's going to happen. I'm just going to go camping

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's going to be pretty much it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>someone might hoax, I don't know, try to give people

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<v Speaker 1>a story to tell. I wasn't really sure what to expect.

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<v Speaker 1>But leading up to the expedition, an attendee that's a regular,

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<v Speaker 1>or I assume he still is, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>regular at those expeditions. His name is John Gregory. He

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<v Speaker 1>had sent me a friend request and he was very

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming when I got there, greeted me with a smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone down there just seemed very, very very friendly, very

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about what they were doing. They really were adamant

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<v Speaker 1>about their beliefs, and I got along with the people

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<v Speaker 1>really well. I tried not to judge anyone based on

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<v Speaker 1>their beliefs. I was honest about not believing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of took things in stride, and as the weekend progressed,

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<v Speaker 1>I just began hearing and talks and lectures and hearing

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<v Speaker 1>people talk. Some people even discussed topics like the forestry,

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<v Speaker 1>how the government has began doing conservation efforts, and what

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<v Speaker 1>those efforts included. And I thought that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice presentation because it wasn't just big foot facts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hearing more scientific arguments and about things that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't crypted, and it really resonated with me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a really nice relief. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a night that we went on night ops and we

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<v Speaker 1>went to a location not all that far from base camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And on this drive, the ground is it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>hilly area, but this road that we're on, the area

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<v Speaker 1>around the road begins to get narrower and narrower until

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<v Speaker 1>the road begins to enter in an area that is

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<v Speaker 1>on a knoll, and surrounding the knoll is a very

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<v Speaker 1>deep valley, and outside of that valley is a large hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the area, we've sometimes referred to it as

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<v Speaker 1>being like a fish bowl. Once we exited the vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>within two minutes, there was a knock to the north

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<v Speaker 1>that was easily within one hundred yards, maybe even within

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards of our location, and it wasn't two or

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<v Speaker 1>three seconds after that knock to the north that there

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<v Speaker 1>was the sound. The best way I could describe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a decent sized tree being pushed over. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the knock and I had seen the people

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<v Speaker 1>at the expedition, I saw what teams they were going with,

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<v Speaker 1>I was I don't even think I've ever admitted this

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone, but I was studying the other people, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to memorize who was going with what group, what people

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<v Speaker 1>were staying at base camp, so I could take stock

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<v Speaker 1>of exactly where everyone was in this area. Because again

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if someone was gonna hoax and bring

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<v Speaker 1>about an experience for people or what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I heard this knock and the sound of this knock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an issue that we sometimes bring up today, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't come up a lot. Is the home run knock.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, if you find it a stick in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be pretty hard pressed to slam it

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<v Speaker 1>against a tree and make a sound like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's really like maple baseball by at hitting a ball

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<v Speaker 1>in a professional setting, and it's existing somewhere around fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards away from me, So it was really

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<v Speaker 1>close and I didn't see how a person could make

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<v Speaker 1>that sound, and I knew no one else was in

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<v Speaker 1>that area. I had studied a topographic map, so I

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<v Speaker 1>knew the terrain behind that area before we went, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't logical that a person was back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we heard the knock and then the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>what I would describe as a medium to large tree

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<v Speaker 1>coming down, and then not too long after that, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a single deer that comes into our vicinity stays

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<v Speaker 1>near us, which is atypical. I'm not saying that deer

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<v Speaker 1>do not approach human beings, but it's pretty rare that

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<v Speaker 1>they do that, especially if you're not offering food, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not offering shelter. The tips of a deer's ears being

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<v Speaker 1>bent down might be a sign of malnourishment, in great distress.

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<v Speaker 1>None of those things happened. We didn't have food. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that, the tips of the deer's ears weren't pointed down.

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<v Speaker 1>But the deer as it came close to us, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just stood there. It kept turning its head looking

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<v Speaker 1>to the hill that surrounded the knoll, and would check

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<v Speaker 1>different spots periodically, and it was acting frantic about being

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<v Speaker 1>what I would describe as being paranoid. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see a big foot in Kentucky at this point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't. I haven't seen a big foot in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just a very, very bizarre incidence, and

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<v Speaker 1>from a perspective of the non believer, I could no

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<v Speaker 1>longer just look at this and say, well, it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be a big foot. There's no such thing. There was

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<v Speaker 1>actually substance to it, and despite not seeing it, it

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<v Speaker 1>opened my eyes to the possibility of there being a bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>or being multiple bigfoot in the woods. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting experience, and it was honestly kind of fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I wasn't at this point, I wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore non believer. I was airing the realm of being skeptical.

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<v Speaker 1>I just needed more proof. The next morning we woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and I believe there were two people who had

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<v Speaker 1>heard a bigfoot near camp. When I sleep, I am

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<v Speaker 1>dead to the world. Absolutely. You might have to shake

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<v Speaker 1>me to wake me up. But one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>I believe was Ron Ron Leatherman. He had pointed to

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<v Speaker 1>an area in the woods. It was about thirty yards

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<v Speaker 1>away from where his tent was set up, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had heard sounds, they heard something come into camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know what to think about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>again I didn't hear anything that night, I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So they announced Tom Shay was at the expedition, and

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<v Speaker 1>they announced that he was going to lead a small

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<v Speaker 1>team out into the woods to try to find some tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't seem a lot of people were going

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<v Speaker 1>to participate. I didn't know if they had something else

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted to do, or if they were wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to take a nap, or what the circumstance was. But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad wanted to go. He thought this would would

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<v Speaker 1>be an incredible experience. So there was myself, my dad, Dusty, Ruth,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Rich Taylor. Steve was going, Jim Wilcox was going.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tom Shay let us out in the forest in

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<v Speaker 1>a formation of a v. Tom Shay was a tracker,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the Army, and he led us out

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<v Speaker 1>looking for tracks, and I ended up being the first

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<v Speaker 1>person to find an impression in the ground that Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Shay after evaluating it and said, yeah, this looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot. The one side detailed of this was that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a full impression of a foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Only about I would say, a quarter of the foot

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<v Speaker 1>at most. And my father had casting powder and asked

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<v Speaker 1>me if I wanted to cast it, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>no today. I look back at it and realized if

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<v Speaker 1>I had found it today, I would have cast it,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time I just said, no, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to cast it. But from that

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<v Speaker 1>individual track, Tom was able to get a bearing and

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<v Speaker 1>track where this bigfoot had walked, and I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the very next impression in the ground. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>he found that one the next one and it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the full foot, and I thought, wow, this is incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found it. I believe maybe four more. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be wrong about that, but after seeing all these

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<v Speaker 1>tracks and seeing how they were individually different, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>something you could have taken a mold and made, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole experience really started opening my eyes to

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<v Speaker 1>there quite possibly is a such thing as a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been one thing if the tracks had

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<v Speaker 1>been all the exact same size and the exact same shape,

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<v Speaker 1>the toes in the same position, but every single impression

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<v Speaker 1>in the ground was unique, and if someone would have

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<v Speaker 1>been out in the woods making these tracks, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have known it was. It was just an incredible weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Raymond was a really good host, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was so awesome to meet all these people. That's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few of them became really close friends of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and my father is still close friends with probably most

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<v Speaker 1>of them that attended. It was just a really cool experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool people in a really cool place. We ended

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<v Speaker 1>up coming back to his expeditions a few more times

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and I don't know how many outings

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<v Speaker 1>my father had been on up to this point, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was I believe late April of twenty nineteen. The

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<v Speaker 1>next outing that I went to was two months later

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<v Speaker 1>in June of twenty nineteen. And up until this point,

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<v Speaker 1>my father had never seen a bigfoot, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>been out quite a few times looking for bigfoot. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a firm believer in bigfoot. He watched all the shows.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say all the shows, I truly mean

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<v Speaker 1>all the shows. And I used to laugh about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just the most ridiculous thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so opposite. I don't even watch TV. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>opposite I am. I don't believe in Bigfoot. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch this show. Are you seriously watching this dad? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we went on the expedition in Ohio that was hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by the BFRORO. So this is two months later and

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<v Speaker 1>the very first night, my father is leading a team

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<v Speaker 1>and on this team there are some other people that

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<v Speaker 1>are BFRO. One of them is Lorie John Gregory came

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<v Speaker 1>amazing guy. I got to hang out with him again,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a few more people on the team

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<v Speaker 1>and we ended up going to a place that was

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<v Speaker 1>a trailhead. This is in southern Ohio and all of

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<v Speaker 1>my sidings are are in southern Ohio. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that northern Ohio. You can't see a big

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<v Speaker 1>Foot up there, because you can absolutely there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some reports of sidings recently in northern Ohio. I live

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<v Speaker 1>in southern Ohio and it's it's just a fantastic place

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<v Speaker 1>to have an experience, really homely area. I love the hills,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the forest down here. It's just home. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're on a trailhead set up, but it's it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>deep in the forest and if I remember correctly, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have cell phone service this area. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we are in the sticks. So as soon as we

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<v Speaker 1>pull into this area, we set up our chairs in

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<v Speaker 1>a circle, all facing each other so we can look

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<v Speaker 1>over each other's backs and shoulders to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>can see what's going on around us. And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>there are seven of us in this group. And we

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<v Speaker 1>begin hearing very gentle footfalls in the forest. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the incredible things and frustrating is that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the loudest sounds you'll hear in the forest that come

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<v Speaker 1>from an animal are going to be the smallest. The squirrels.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to tear things up and chip monks and

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<v Speaker 1>really cause a racket. But it's just so amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>something so large could be so quiet. Actually, when a

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot was walking, the footfall just the foot actually managed

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<v Speaker 1>to land on a small stick and you'd hear a

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<v Speaker 1>little snap, and it could have been a large stick

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because of the possible foot padding, all that

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<v Speaker 1>fat mass on the bottom of the foot dampening the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of you know, six hundred to one thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 1>being could really dampen that sound. So it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got our attention and at first, the footfalls were happening

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<v Speaker 1>very slowly and sporadically, seemed to come from one very

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<v Speaker 1>general area, definitely within fifty yards of us, but we

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't see anything. There was a lot of vegetation,

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few trees in the area on one side

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<v Speaker 1>of the trailhead where all the sounds were coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the trail starts to go down

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<v Speaker 1>and gets a little bit more steep and more steep

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<v Speaker 1>as it goes down the hill, and on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of us. As soon as you clear the trailhead

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<v Speaker 1>the train it's fairly flat, but you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>up a hill maybe five ten feet, but then it

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<v Speaker 1>gets gently rolling. But all these sounds were coming from

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<v Speaker 1>down the hill, and then a few minutes later, out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, things begin getting thrown. At first we begin

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<v Speaker 1>to think that maybe there's debris falling out of the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens, but being June isn't really the month that

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<v Speaker 1>we expect a lot of debris falling. And the fall definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many walnuts and acorns coming down the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets loud very quick, but being in June, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really expect it. What we thought it was natural

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<v Speaker 1>because there were so few coming down at first, but

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<v Speaker 1>then when we begin to figure out that they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>being thrown, that kind of was a game changer for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well more, an more acorns get thrown, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>these acorns managed to hit a kid that was on

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<v Speaker 1>our team. His name is Wyatt. He was fourteen. He

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely pelted and I don't mean to laugh about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just the shock and surprise of him

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<v Speaker 1>getting pelted. Me. He hollered something out I don't even remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of funny. But he didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>seriously injured, but it was just the shock and surprise

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<v Speaker 1>and how he handled it was just kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of funny. He didn't get freaked out, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>really good thing. But after that, a Wyatt brought his

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<v Speaker 1>thermal with him. He had a fleer, maybe a TK model,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was scanning the area and my father had

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<v Speaker 1>his fleaer with him, and they were sort of sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on opposite sides of the circle, so Whyatt was looking

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<v Speaker 1>over my dad's back and my dad was looking over

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<v Speaker 1>Whyatt's back. A little while later, the footfalls begin to

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<v Speaker 1>get louder, and to me it sounded like they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>just occurring in one general area anymore. They were still

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<v Speaker 1>happening where we first heard them, in the direction that

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<v Speaker 1>the acorns were coming from, but they were also happening

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<v Speaker 1>within maybe seventy five yards of us, in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So if one was happening, the majority of it was

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<v Speaker 1>happening to the south. I began hearing footfalls happening off

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<v Speaker 1>to the west. And then Whyatt exclaims while looking out

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<v Speaker 1>of his thermal, I see bigfoot and my father doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he was thinking when he heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you never know, because some people have mistaken claims

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<v Speaker 1>where they believe they see or hear something, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>just mistaken about what it is. So my father just says, oh, really, well,

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<v Speaker 1>where is it? And my father is passing his thermal

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth between him and I so I can

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to look and kind of get a

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<v Speaker 1>feel for the for the monocular, and at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, I have his monocular. So when my father

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<v Speaker 1>asks why where the bigfoot is, WHYAT whispers to him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right behind you. And it really shocked my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That was kind of funny. Also, so at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>why it's the only one that's seen it. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's exactly what he's seeing or not. But

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<v Speaker 1>I decide to take a look and see if I

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<v Speaker 1>can try to identify why it is looking at and

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<v Speaker 1>we are both, I believe, using white hot settings. So

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<v Speaker 1>I start scanning the area behind my father, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look through night vision and a thermal monocular

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<v Speaker 1>or any type of thermal camera, if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>a heat source or a large image in front of

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to view, the background can get blurred

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<v Speaker 1>out or get water out because of the heat or

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<v Speaker 1>the radiating light coming off of an object, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using a night vision. But I end up

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<v Speaker 1>looking around my father and I see a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of something on beside a tree, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's sort of is the same color

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<v Speaker 1>of the tree in my mind, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to think. The next thing I know is this

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<v Speaker 1>white hot setting. If something is abnormally hot compared to

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<v Speaker 1>its surroundings, it will be maybe like a pinkish or

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<v Speaker 1>almost red. I see these dots that look like there's

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<v Speaker 1>space about three inches apart in the area, and the

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<v Speaker 1>seat signature was to the left of the tree. To

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<v Speaker 1>the left of the tree in that area, I see

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<v Speaker 1>these two blazing hot little circles that are about three

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<v Speaker 1>maybe four inches apart, I can't tell. And then it's

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it dawned on me, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you view eyeballs through a fermal monocular, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to glow just like this is. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I stood up, but I know I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it just floored me. Because I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>down this hill, there can't be a person down this hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Something is standing there on two feet, peeking out behind

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<v Speaker 1>a tree, and I know it's not human, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I am just absolutely blown away, and I just stay

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<v Speaker 1>to the group. I see it. I see what he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. That's a bigfoot. And I had asked my

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<v Speaker 1>father if so. They asked me questions and about how

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<v Speaker 1>far away it is, how big it is. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I've never seen this place in

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<v Speaker 1>the light. I don't know the size of these trees,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't really answer many other questions except the

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<v Speaker 1>general area of where it is. So I asked my

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<v Speaker 1>father if he wanted to look at it and he

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<v Speaker 1>did well. He tried to turn and couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, well, why don't you slowly stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>come over to one where I am, turn around, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll guide you to the area. So he did that

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<v Speaker 1>and couldn't see it. Well. Then I had to move

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<v Speaker 1>his hand while he's holding the thermal to the area

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<v Speaker 1>and then he saw it. And Whyatt at the time

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<v Speaker 1>was recording with his with this flear so we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to obtain the footage from that the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>when we got back. Well, more sounds were heard that night,

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<v Speaker 1>and Whyatt was able to keep an eye on on

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<v Speaker 1>the big foot. But while when my father was done,

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<v Speaker 1>he handed the thermal back to me and I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to where I was sitting. But Bori had kept

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<v Speaker 1>reminding people it checked the trees, checked the area surrounding us,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't always know what's going on on other

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<v Speaker 1>sides of you, so you need to be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>all of your surroundings, not just where you see a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I began scanning in other areas and up the

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<v Speaker 1>trail about seventy five to one hundred yards away, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a different bigfoot crossing the trail. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the eyes glowing and I could see that it

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<v Speaker 1>was walking on two feet, and I was florida. How

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<v Speaker 1>it moved. It was so bizarre because the feet were moving,

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<v Speaker 1>its head was pointed at me the whole time. It

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at me, but it was like it's chest

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going up and down. If we were taking steps

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<v Speaker 1>as humans, you might expect the shoulders to go up

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<v Speaker 1>and down when we went, but this thing wasn't doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could see the legs moving, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see shoulders going up and down, So it was it

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<v Speaker 1>really confused me, and I could hear more footfalls coming

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<v Speaker 1>in from behind me. So the trail where I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the big foot crossing was to the west, where I

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<v Speaker 1>could hear footfalls happening to the north behind me and

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<v Speaker 1>to the east, And in my mind, I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's several of them around us, and I can't see them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't say that for certain, but to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was possible that we saw two

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<v Speaker 1>and there were possibly two or three more that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see around us. And that next day we were

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed by Mark der Worth on what we saw and

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<v Speaker 1>what occurred, and we went back to investigate the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that there were either four or five,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even six tracks that were cast at this occurrence.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Kenny and Jack Brown found some tracks and

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone was going to the location where this the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the people who saw the bigfoot, they owe

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<v Speaker 1>everybody doing the investigation went down there. Ri I told

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Ross to come with me and we went up

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<v Speaker 1>the trail and I said there was a bigfoot that

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<v Speaker 1>was up here. Ended up finding it at track and

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<v Speaker 1>casting it and it was It was just incredible. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was on Thursday night. Friday night, nothing happens for

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<v Speaker 1>our group except there was a large handprint found on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of one of my father's jeeps and we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of photos of it. And Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happens at all. But it was a great experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But Saturday, the meal was catered and I was cooking

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<v Speaker 1>with John Gregory all weekend for the expedition, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was loading up on some of that food and I

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<v Speaker 1>had brought a lot of pop tarts. Supper comes around,

418
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>we have a big catered meal and I am stuffed.

419
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So I decided, well, I'm just going to take the

420
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>food and leave it behind the gift. So we get

421
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 1>ready to leave and we go back to the same spot,

422
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but my father's telling me, oh, don't take that food

423
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 1>with us. You know you could attract more than you

424
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>bargained for, which we actually did find out to be true.

425
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 1>We came back a couple weeks later and a tree

426
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 1>was torn up by a bear, and I took so

427
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 1>many photos. I was impressed, so I'm glad I didn't

428
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>take that food. But he convinced me to take a

429
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>couple tens of sardines and some pham balls from a

430
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>presentation that my father gave about psychology, interviewing and witnesses

431
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of their credibility. It was a really good presentation, but

432
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he handed out these phone balls. He had a lot extra,

433
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>so I took two of those with me and I

434
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>left the ten up there. I left the the phone balls.

435
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Nothing happened, but we had a good time while we

436
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>were up there, and that's what it's all about. You

437
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 1>may not see or hear anything, but you know, if

438
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you can have a good time with the people you're out,

439
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it's worth it. So I leave these items behind. We

440
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>go back to camp the next morning. Everyone is saying

441
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they're goodbyes, and one of the attendees comes up and

442
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>he knew that our team was up there at the

443
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>same spot, and he asks about the area and it

444
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>being all torn up, and I'm thinking, great, what did

445
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we do? And he went up there to gift also,

446
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but he had just done it before coming back to

447
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>base camp. And when he told us the area was

448
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 1>torn up, we decided to go up there and check

449
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it out. And we brought the evidence collecting pack with us,

450
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and Bo Bruns was pulling in, so we tell Bo

451
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to get in the car, let's go. So Bo comes

452
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 1>with us, and Bo and I put on gloves and

453
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>we go up there and something had torn one of

454
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the sardine tins open, something had bit through the other

455
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>sardine tin, and then the two phone balls those had

456
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>big chunks of them bitten out, chewed up, and the

457
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 1>pieces spat back out. Both the balls were identical, so

458
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we collected all that and then pieces of those ball

459
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>are pieces of one of the balls ended up being

460
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>sent to a university for DNA testing, and then it

461
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>subsequently ended up being transferred to North Carolina State University

462
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>where Darby Orcutt is doing a study, but it was

463
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just it was incredible because I had this experience in Kentucky.

464
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I heard a knock. I got to hear that the

465
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>very first expedition I was on. It sounded like a

466
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>tree came down. I didn't see anything, but I saw

467
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>some tracks. And then two months later I got to

468
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 1>actually see one. It was with a funmal, not with

469
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 1>my own two eyes daylight. It wasn't it wasn't that,

470
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 1>but it was still incredible. It was absolutely amazing. I mean,

471
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I went from this thing cannot exist to Wow, these

472
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>things are out there. Man. It was just awesome. So

473
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>after experiencing that, I got a little bit heavy into casting.

474
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was learning more about it. I was learning more

475
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 1>how to do it, and it was it was something

476
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that I could manage. My father had a lot of

477
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>casting powder, and you know, it was a cool way

478
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to collect evidence. And you're not going to have a

479
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>sighting left and right, but you can still go out,

480
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>keep your eyes peeled. You could find tracks, and it

481
00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was just something I could really get a part of that.

482
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 1>It didn't take a ton of money to do. There

483
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 1>was some learning about it, but it was it was

484
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>very manageable. And then my next experience was being at

485
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 1>a private location in southern Ohio. Again, it must have

486
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>been only a few months later. We were out in

487
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a private area and while there on the ridgeline above us,

488
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:29.559
<v Speaker 1>my father and I were out and we were being

489
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>paralleled and we were kind of talking, maybe a regular

490
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:42.039
<v Speaker 1>volume conversation out in the forest. We're all alone out there,

491
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and there's a pause in the conversation and we stop moving,

492
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and then we can hear up above us these steps,

493
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>these footfalls occurring, and then all of a sudden, they stopped,

494
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and we both kind of noticed it, but we didn't

495
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 1>say anything, so we continued on walking and talking, and

496
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>then we could hear between our words there were slight

497
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 1>sounds up on the ridge. We never got to see anything,

498
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 1>but it was just another really cool experience. And then

499
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>when my father was a part of the Northern Kentucky

500
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot research group with Tom Shay, and then I was

501
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>invited to go and be a part of that group.

502
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 1>We went down to northern Kentucky to scout out a

503
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>location and while we were there, my father and I

504
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>with Tom Shay. Tom wasn't going to be able to

505
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>make get to the next outing and he wanted to

506
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>show my father this spot so when the group was

507
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>able to go, they would know exactly where it was.

508
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I got bored was just standing around. If we're in

509
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the woods, just standing around looking around while some conversations

510
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 1>are going on isn't really my thing. I'd rather be

511
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.760
<v Speaker 1>doing something. I'm constantly on the move. So they were

512
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>having some conversation that was meaningful to them, and I

513
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>just thought, well, if I'm in the forest, I might

514
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>as well look around and take some photographs see what

515
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I can see. And about ten or fifteen minutes later,

516
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I was absolutely floored because it is almost November, and

517
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 1>to me, it looks like a little kid had been

518
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 1>walking through the forest barefoot and it had been pouring

519
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>down rain recently. And I couldn't fathom. I mean, I

520
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 1>know we're you know, we're not in an urban area,

521
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 1>but I can't imagine who would let their kid run

522
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>around barefoot. So I took a photo and I went

523
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 1>back to where my father and Tom were standing talking,

524
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think they could tell by the look on

525
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 1>my face that I had seen something. And Tom looked

526
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at me and said, what's going on? I said, you

527
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't believe it. There has been a little kid out

528
00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 1>here walking around in the woods barefoot, and Tom said,

529
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? So I showed him the photograph

530
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>and he said, you're kidding and I said no. So

531
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, well, that ain't a little kid, that's a

532
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 1>juvenile Bigfoot. I said I was. I was so shocked

533
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that he said that. And he said, well, where was it?

534
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I walked over there, and I think they drove

535
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>back to the spot and Tom got the looking at

536
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and studying the track and he said, yeah, that is

537
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a juvenile on Bigfoot. So then we had casting powder,

538
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't have water. So my father drove down

539
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 1>the road to go get water. I don't know if

540
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>he got it out of a creek or where he

541
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>got it, but he comes back with water. So I

542
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>start casting. And when I was casting, we're all just

543
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in these launch airs waiting for the cast to set up,

544
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're using the hydrostone, so the process really heats

545
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 1>up when it cures. But it's fairly cold. Well it's not,

546
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, thirties, but it's pretty cool, so it's going

547
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 1>to take some time. So while we're sitting waiting on

548
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>this this track is set up, Tom looks over and said, well,

549
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>there's another one. But this one was enormous. I had

550
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.760
<v Speaker 1>never seen a track this large. It was about I

551
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>want to say, twenty one inches if memory serves, and

552
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the ground was obliterated. This thing is literally four or

553
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>five inches deep into the ground. I could not wrap

554
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>my mind around what I was So we we start

555
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>casting that one, and I thought Tom was going to

556
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>cast it, and he basically said, well, you need experience.

557
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 1>He said, well you can if you want cast and

558
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>cast it. You know, you get your experience in. I

559
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>don't mind. So I cast it, and then we're waiting

560
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for that second one to set up and finish curing

561
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so we can remove them out of the ground. Tom

562
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>looks over again, well there's another one. And to me,

563
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I had seen these holes in the ground, but I

564
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 1>just thought someone drove back there. They started to get

565
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>their tires stuck and band up, throwing a bunch of

566
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 1>a debris out of the grass and just tore the area.

567
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was looking for. I'd only

568
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 1>been big footing for I don't know, seven eight months,

569
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but it's it's just unreal. And to

570
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this day I occasionally dig those barge casts back out

571
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>just to just to examine them, just because at that

572
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 1>point and and my big footing period of my life,

573
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around

574
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>around it because there is one in Tom's area that

575
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:51.039
<v Speaker 1>has been named Goliath, and it's just it still seems

576
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me that there is a being walking around

577
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>in the woods that is that massive. It's just awesome.

578
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Is awesome. One of the things that my father and

579
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I are into is ledrs long duration recorders, and this

580
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>process involves taking parts and sometimes making your own. So

581
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you're going to set up a unit that you can

582
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 1>put in the forest where it is going to record

583
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:38.599
<v Speaker 1>audio for you. Your typical batteries are going to last you

584
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe a week on full strength, and you don't

585
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>want to have to keep coming back out in the

586
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>woods every week grabbing your recorder and seeing what you

587
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 1>got in the past seven days. You want to be

588
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 1>able to set something out in the woods, come back

589
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a month later, maybe five six weeks later, pick up

590
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>your LDR. You can swap the batteries out, you can

591
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>swap the SD card out, put new ones in, and

592
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 1>then take your batteries with you. Plug in your SD

593
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>card when you get home and see what audio you've got,

594
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And you can use a free software called Audacity and

595
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:34.039
<v Speaker 1>use a spectrogram where you can see what audio is

596
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 1>being created out in the woods. You don't just have

597
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 1>to listen to eight to ten hours a night. You

598
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>can actually scan through it with your eyes and spot

599
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 1>check your audio, see what's going on. So and our

600
00:50:52.440 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 1>hobby as of twenty nineteen, I'd believe that my father

601
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 1>had one or two LDRs made for him, but once

602
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I got involved, he told me that I should start

603
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 1>making them. So I think that we have made close

604
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to twenty one LDRs for us so far. We've had

605
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>up to eight of them out at a time in

606
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 1>the woods in various places public land, private land, collecting

607
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of audio over the years, and one spot

608
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in particular is where we have an incredible piece of

609
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>evidence from We went there to retrieve an LDR and

610
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 1>then take the batteries and SD card out of it,

611
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 1>put new batteries in, a new SD card and the

612
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>LDR and hang it back up in the woods. And

613
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Well. At the time, we were using a

614
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>GoPro that was attached to a helmet that at this

615
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 1>point in time I was wearing. Sometimes he would wear it.

616
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we'd mount it to our chest. But it got

617
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot easier and better for the video

618
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to have it on your head, because if you're doing

619
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.199
<v Speaker 1>things with your hands, you could block the camera's view

620
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>if it's attached to your chest. So just put it

621
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 1>on a helmet, and I'm wearing it. I have to

622
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 1>traverse this very steep hill to get down to the LDR,

623
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and then traverse the hill, count the comeback up, change everything,

624
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and then bring it back down, then come back up. Well.

625
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 1>On the trip down to place the l they are

626
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 1>in the tree. I don't really know where my father is,

627
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but there are times when something that's happening in the

628
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>forest and you need to get quiet or you need

629
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention, and it can happen in a split second.

630
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Usually he my father might say hey, West, or might

631
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>snap his fingers. But I'm I'm more than sixty yards

632
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.039
<v Speaker 1>away from at this point, and I am trying not

633
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to fall while going down the hill, And the next

634
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>thing I know is a rock whizzes past my head

635
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and hits the ground in front of me, So it

636
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:54.519
<v Speaker 1>comes from behind me, goes past my right ear, and

637
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 1>then hits not only the ground, but it hits the

638
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>ground that is within a foot of the tree that

639
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I hang the LDR in. So instantly my mind does

640
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>not go to Bigfoot. My mind goes to my father,

641
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>thinking I need to get quiet. I'm making too much noise,

642
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 1>or he wanted to get my attention, and I couldn't

643
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 1>hear him because I do have a little bit of

644
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>a hearing problem on my left ear. So I thought, well,

645
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 1>he wanted my attention, So I look up, try to

646
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:35.599
<v Speaker 1>find where he is, and I yell out, did you

647
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 1>just throw a rock at me? And of course he

648
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>is far enough a way that he can't hear a

649
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 1>word I'm saying. So I keep my eyes on where

650
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:54.599
<v Speaker 1>the rock came from, and then realized it came from downhill,

651
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and somehow the rock was thrown it arcd and was

652
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 1>coming down when it whizz past my head. So it

653
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>came from down far below me, and I knew my

654
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>father wasn't down the hill, he was up on top

655
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of the hill. Soon I get up there, I tell

656
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 1>him about this experience, and I show him the video

657
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of it, and you can hear that rock whizzing past

658
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>my head. But I fully believe they could hurt you

659
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in a drop of a dime. It wouldn't even be

660
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>an issue. They could just do it and then you know,

661
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it would be a problem. But if they wanted to,

662
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I think they could have hurt me. But it was

663
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. At the time, I was kind

664
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of peeved. I thought he threw a rock, and I

665
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't know why he would throw a rock period. Plus

666
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he would, you know, get it

667
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 1>so close to my head. But I was a little frustrated,

668
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and my line did not go to Bigfoot. It didn't

669
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:16.159
<v Speaker 1>go to Bigfoot until I realized the rock didn't come

670
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.159
<v Speaker 1>from on top of the hill, but it came from

671
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 1>down the hill. So my next sighting was in September

672
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty one. It was at another BFRO expedition.

673
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 1>It was also in Southern Ohio. Southern Ohio is a

674
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:43.599
<v Speaker 1>great place to see a Bigfoot. There are several states

675
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that have a lot of activity going on. I believe

676
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania is one of the big ones. Michigan's one of

677
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the big ones. Going out to the Pacific northwest, you

678
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>can see him. But it's just easy for us because

679
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:05.719
<v Speaker 1>we're in southern Ohio. We know they're here, we know

680
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:12.000
<v Speaker 1>where they are. It's just incredible. So this expedition, I

681
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 1>don't recall what night of the expedition it was, but

682
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the team leader was Laurie. Laurie had scouted out around

683
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 1>this area and found a spot where we could set

684
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 1>up for night ops. There were probably eight of us

685
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 1>at this location this night, and while we were there,

686
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 1>they had gotten dark. I had brought a small firestarter

687
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>log and she I think brought another firestarter log. I

688
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 1>started one and it didn't do so well, and then

689
00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:03.039
<v Speaker 1>she started another, and then with a an hour of

690
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>us being there, maybe forty five minutes, small rocks begin

691
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 1>being thrown. We are on top of a ridge and

692
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it was similar to the location in Kentucky, except the

693
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>road in was a lot shorter. But everywhere around us well,

694
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're on a large hill. Everywhere around this

695
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 1>decreases in elevation quickly. But rocks are being up thrown

696
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>up the hill from down below, and it seems like

697
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>they are coming from different directions. At some points, we

698
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:50.719
<v Speaker 1>can hear rocks hitting, but we can't see the rocks

699
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 1>hitting anything. We can't see where they bounce. But we

700
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:57.719
<v Speaker 1>can hear them hitting the ground. We're hitting other rocks,

701
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you are I want to say southeast. We

702
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 1>hear footfalls, but they don't sound like bigfoot. We hear

703
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:16.960
<v Speaker 1>these footfalls, and then we ended up seeing a deer again.

704
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 1>It was a deer came up to us, within twenty

705
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:25.320
<v Speaker 1>feet of us and just stayed there. This deer would

706
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 1>not leave. Marcia Clarke had a at the time. She's

707
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:35.519
<v Speaker 1>an attendee. I don't believe that she was bfro yet,

708
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but she had her thermal and she was scanning. I

709
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 1>believe I had a. I might have had night vision

710
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:51.599
<v Speaker 1>with me. I don't recall, but several members of the

711
00:59:51.639 --> 01:00:00.239
<v Speaker 1>team had thermals. And eventually we stood up and we

712
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 1>began looking around the hill and down at the bottom

713
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of the hill, on the I think west side of

714
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the hill. At the bottom, Marcia claimed that she saw

715
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot. It was standing amongst the trees, but it

716
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 1>was not behind a tree. It was standing out and

717
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 1>broad View was not trying to hide. So others of

718
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:42.920
<v Speaker 1>us in our group began scanning and saw what Marcia saw.

719
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>And Marcia saw this bigfoot and was recording with her thermal,

720
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and we all got a really good look at this bigfoot,

721
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what we did, but it is

722
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.880
<v Speaker 1>my opinion that we either because of the deer or

723
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>something were else we were doing. But it is my

724
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 1>opinion that we upset this bigfoot. This bigfoot turns around,

725
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 1>runs and storms off through the woods, and after that

726
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we never encountered a bigfoot for the rest of the night.

727
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:32.639
<v Speaker 1>This bigfoot runs back towards base camp and we don't

728
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:36.400
<v Speaker 1>see it again. But this, oh, this was the last

729
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 1>night of the expedition. I went out the next morning

730
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to pick up our one of our LDRs at base camp,

731
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and I had seen it the day before during the daylight.

732
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.480
<v Speaker 1>But now when I went to collect the LDR to

733
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.920
<v Speaker 1>take it home, it was gone, completely gone, and in

734
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 1>its place there was a marble on the ground. So

735
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't say that a bigfoot decided to trade with

736
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:15.400
<v Speaker 1>us or what I know. Others at the expedition found

737
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 1>marbles on the ground in base camp, so I can't

738
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 1>say what exactly that was about. But the whole thing

739
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 1>was odd, and I do believe that we upset the

740
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:35.920
<v Speaker 1>big foot. In May of twenty twenty three, we had

741
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 1>been alerted well, my father had been alerted about a

742
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 1>trackway in southern Ohio and the next day we were

743
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:53.079
<v Speaker 1>able to go down and investigate the area. And over

744
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of days I was able to go

745
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 1>down independently. It takes a while to get down there,

746
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so I was traveling three hours and just to cast

747
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.199
<v Speaker 1>several tracks and come back and then do it again.

748
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 1>And there has been a lot of outcry about the

749
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 1>DNA studies and you know, whether or not they were valid,

750
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:24.960
<v Speaker 1>what happened with those and what I can say through

751
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 1>my process of being an investigator with the Northern Kentucky

752
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Research Group and being a part of the BFRO

753
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 1>that as investigators and researchers, we need to do our part.

754
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 1>We need to follow the scientific method. We need to

755
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 1>collect evidence properly, store it properly, eliminate any potential part

756
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:58.760
<v Speaker 1>of contamination that could happen. And you know, it's it's

757
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a process. It's frustrating, but we just need to remember

758
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the joy and the hobby and it's trying to have

759
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 1>a good time with it. And if we have an experience,

760
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:15.039
<v Speaker 1>it's great. You know, you can come join us anytime

761
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:19.800
<v Speaker 1>at an expedition. You'll be lifelong friends. With the people

762
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you meet, you'll learn a lot, You'll have a great time,

763
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's been really amazing to be a part of,

764
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Northern Kentucky Bigfoot Research Group and the

765
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:37.400
<v Speaker 1>BFRO and if nothing else, I can't imagine where my

766
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>life would be if I hadn't had the opportunity to

767
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.800
<v Speaker 1>get out in the woods as often as I do now.

768
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 1>So I've had a few experiences and I've been able

769
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to share a couple with you, have had several more

770
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and was able to investigate further. And you know, Southern Ohio.

771
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I can't say enough about it. And there's some other

772
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 1>great places, and I appreciate you'd be willing to stick

773
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 1>with me. And here's some of my stories. So thank you.

774
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's it for tonight show. If you've had a

775
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 4>big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,

776
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 4>please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let

777
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 4>us know. Thanks for listening. Have a great night seeing a.

778
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Bunch of run down no horse towns where the church

779
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 2>is the backbone lows.

780
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 3>And the Bow and the Fasting melodies coove in, but the.

781
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Bomb man rose with a roos run deep beyond the

782
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 2>nose of.

783
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 3>The busy streets with the songs of the South O

784
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:42.480
<v Speaker 3>su then I mean I hear the promp porch picking

785
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 3>down home rhythm, bringing out add on run from banjam music.

786
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the sound of a memory brings me back to

787
01:05:55.599 --> 01:06:01.280
<v Speaker 5>the bluegrass playing the Madadi jack become and it been

788
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 5>through it, getting through the tea on scrugs and skaggs,

789
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 5>bucking name bears through this Tennessee jams.

790
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 1>There's no the way that I do it.

791
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And I hit a boum boat packing down on rhythm,

792
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 2>bringing out that over run from banjong music.

793
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:30.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, someone going backwards backwards and double tip faking and

794
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.800
<v Speaker 6>the sword and the strumming look and tuck start.

795
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing in the strumming now country boy living mom.

796
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:41.079
<v Speaker 6>And I hit a bom boat picking down rhythm, bringing

797
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.960
<v Speaker 6>us that all from from then using.

798
01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 5>The city laugh drowsed me wid on the dune gods.

799
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Rushing back with the bass on the stoos to man.

800
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.000
<v Speaker 6>And I had a brown bod picking down one r

801
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 6>the bringing nuts run from bunch of music. Yeah, summing gallop,

802
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.480
<v Speaker 6>back words, backwoods and double tim picking in the sword

803
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:26.320
<v Speaker 6>and the strumming lo Kentucky stars because athing and strumming down,

804
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:32.119
<v Speaker 6>country boy living and get a bad, bad picking down rhythm,

805
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:59.880
<v Speaker 6>bringing us paddle from the bedroom, summing gallop, back words

806
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 6>backwards and double town packing and the soul and the drumming,

807
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.039
<v Speaker 6>hook and tucks time because of the head of Trumen.

808
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Now country Boy leaving.

809
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And I hear a bout ports picking down the Mad

810
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Chick and Botswin Mona's been sweet teak kind of sounds

811
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:19.000
<v Speaker 2>around music
