Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to your Mission impossible
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Speaker 3: The mister taylor Field.
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do our nonsport. So if you haven't seen the movie,
are waiting, whatever the reason is, we're gonna do all
of our minor thoughts just overall is what we thought
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then we'll come back and do full spoilers. After the break,
you've accepted the mission and you're fully in and we
can't hold you accountable what we're talking about. So, mister Field,
what did you think of Final Reckoning?
Speaker 3: This movie's messy. It's it's not it's not. There are
sequences in this movie that I enjoy, and then there's
other moments that are just in between that are not great.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's just too.
Speaker 3: Choppy for a finale to to especially as a part two.
It doesn't do a great job it kind of tying
everything off in a bow. I'd say, well, it does that,
it's just the bow has falling apart. You know when
you tie your shoelace and the shoelace has come undone.
I feel like that's what this is.
Speaker 1: They try butter scraped over too much bread. You might say,
I could say that, you could say that when we
have that drop. We've used that quote like almost since
the beginning of Geek first time. So here quickly, there
are detail, you know, patron asking us, oh should I
see Leelo instead? Tara, what would you say to that?
Speaker 3: I would yes, I would say yes, yes, yes, yes.
But you know what, they're bringing kids to this movie anyways.
So I mean, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: Next week, person, because it's a late night and I
think we're gonna have lots to talk about this. Stick
tune in even if you're not gonna call in, tune
in for After nine next week. Two great stories on
Taylor's fucking wild ride home. That's worth We got some
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someone brought three to four year old to our screening,
also worth the price, missiter. Next week after nine, there's
gonna be some great stories talked about. But so you're
going that, I'm I'll wait to overalls the same thinking
to overalls, I think I know your cards lying that one,
but finish off with your overalls for this, but you.
Speaker 3: Taylor, sorry to interject, No, no, we're going to I
gotta figure out one of these days.
Speaker 1: You even seen the original lelan Stitch.
Speaker 3: I've seen the original, but the new one that.
Speaker 2: Came out, A new one detours original that came out.
Speaker 1: Well, no, but I just thought like you made it
sound like we know what Lelan Stitch is like the
live it's the cartoon, the live action, like we know
if you've seen the movie, you know what you're getting.
Speaker 3: I'm getting a good time, That's what I'm getting. But
a good time with this, I don't know. It's I
had many I had many factors stacked against me here,
one of them being so Kirklam was amazing and got
me a large, large beverage, and I finished it in
the first thirty minutes. Just a big mistake because at
that forty five minute mark, I was bursting at the seams.
And then we got to and this isn't a spoiler, obviously,
we got to an ocean sequence and all I just
think it was water and peeing is very uncomfortable, so
I held I held it in for about forty five minutes,
and then after that, I just the feeling went away.
I couldn't feel anything down low anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Shane was asking that right there, what's that smell?
Just like just pee dripping down Taylor's.
Speaker 2: Legs in the twitter's face is just fucking drove But
he realized was SI.
Speaker 3: So yeah, once once I got over that that feeling
of numbness, then I just I wrode it out to
the end. But it was, like I said, there were
moments in this movie that I really did enjoy. But
it wasn't the writing and it wasn't necessarily the story.
There were certain things that they included in narrative elements.
I thought, like my jaw dropped because I thought, you
know what, there's probably a lot of realism to that.
And if this were an actual scenario in the real
world and how certain political figures would respond and act
in these situations. I thought, man, that's just that's fucked up,
but hey, that probably would happen. But everything that kind
of led to this, like it just it felt messy
and the whole the beginning, which will probably break down
extensively in the spoilers, I felt it was definitely slow,
but at the same time, it was so quick cut,
Like my god, they chopped it up so fast, Like
you if you were to like, if you weren't paying
full attention, you need to be paying attention, because well,
there's definitely.
Speaker 1: Moments more are they're just going to tell you the
same information again.
Speaker 3: Well there's moments, there's moments of recap, that's right, But
then in between and this it's not a spoiler, but
there's like dare I say, four like time jumps where
they do different things and it's they all directly directly
impact where we get to. After the title card drops
and we get into that first like mission and the
movie actually is starting, and you need to be watching
that because it's like, Okay, well, how does all this
come together when that movie's actually starting here and our
characters are together. It's just I feel like that was
way too fast, and I feel like that was them
not executing the time that they had appropriately to account for.
The also the slow factor of how this again, it's
hard to explain. It was quick and it was slow
at the start. It just was messy and choppy. But
overall I had fun because I was seeing it with
you guys, and there were moments where I was laughing
It's just some crazy shit. But I'm not racing to
rewatch this one. I do feel kind of bummed out briefly,
and I know where I would definitely put it ultimately,
but it'll it'll be interesting to break it down a
bit more.
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I'll go because I already share it to
my spots. Tata said, there's moments of recap. No, there's
long sequences of recap. Not a good movie, not good
at all. That's the first time I can say that
about Mission Impossible. I think there's great sequences, but great
sequences move a great movie. It does not make I
think it's not big spoil it's in there. The fucking
sub has some pauses. The submarine sequence in here breath
taking outstanding, Like I know, I don't think they've ever
made it, and obviously we'll have to see, but like,
that's easily in my top five at least for Golden
Gigs later on. And luckily you know, the three of us,
So I don't think Dylan's gonna watch it. But that
breath taking stuff stuff, I'm like, Wow, this is an
incredible filmmaking all round, and this has that right. The
score still bangs, performances are still good, you know, scope
of these movies, even the plane sequence, which I think
went on a little long, and again we've kind of
seen Tom Cruise like flip around on a plane. Am
I this or M I two? Stay tuned next week.
I don't know who put M I two, but yeah, Patreon,
that's for sure it was not me. We'll be doing
a whole rankings of that, and I might agree with
that person put in there. But yeah, the first hour
and half this movie is rough. I I'm not gonna
say feel bad for a studio, but I could just
imagine the studio be like, yeah, it's Tom Cruise, We're
gonna do it, he says. But fuck, like this this
is a time where I it's so tricky and this
is probably like a bread and butter. But we talk
about like maybe because like a couple of days ago,
there's the anniversary of the Zach Snyder Justice League like announcement, right,
and this whole, this whole argument about you know, creative
freedom and director's vision and stuff. But then we just
said and or end right, we're and or rogue one
that was not the director's vision. The director directed something,
and then they brought on Tony Gilroy and people would say, oh,
it's better for it. Right, this is a time where
I don't want to side with the studio, but like
if you were to show me a cut and maybe
a cut the studio which they had the hour and
a half, you could take off. I don't think I'm
being mean when I say forty five minutes of this movie.
Kirkland asked his lady, said, hey, do you want me
to he was saying it ben Jess, but like, hey,
you want me to recap you on some stuff. There's
no need to recap anybody. Someone could have never heard
a mission impossible, And the first hour and a half
will catch you up on every fucking single thing you
need to know. Because Myers sports the first five met
starts with like them on Touch to the franch It's okay,
this is nice. The movie is just that continually for
about an hour and a half, and it is rocky.
There's so much and it's not convoluted as far as
not understanding. It's just there's so much plot jargon and
entity jargon, and just like plot threads, there's ten thousand
mcguffins in this of this leads to, this leads the list.
There's so many choices that don't make sense. This echo
is like Rise of Skywalker, like gross fan service stuff
where the director was like, oh yeah, fan service, that's
really bad for movies. It's like, then, what the fuck
are you doing in this movie because they make conclusions
and ties to movies where it's like, this doesn't make
any sense. In the retro, we talked about how one
day McCrory and Tom Cruise were like, hey, we saw
the MSU. We like what they're doing. So that's where
after Ghost Protocol we decided to change our method did this.
I fucking wish they never saw a Marvel movie in
their life, because this, to me is like if Endgame
was bad, which a lots of people say, Rise to Skywalker.
Is that end game bad? This one hurt more because
like they have a much better track record than the
sequel trilogy and a lot of the lucasfilm Star Wars stuff. Yeah,
this for me is this was a tough sit through.
I think there's great sequences, a great moment, some great
character stuff, but they're very in between. And even the
third act I can't even say all the third acts great.
That has tons of stuff where there's a serious moment
and me and Tarror chuckling because there's something happening in
the mountains and you're just like, Okay, is this a
fucking superhero movie? Is this the realistic mission possible? We're like, ah,
it's not even that, not even that. It's with the Guards,
I'll say it, the Guards. Remember, there's a big takeover
and it's like, really, this is like it gets so
passed the realm. It's like fast and furious, it's now
too past the Roman believability. They completely jump the shark
of that, and uh yeah, big disappointment. I wish to
end it with Fallout. I think if I will, I
don't think i'll ever watch this movie again. In fall
I think I'll start from the submarine portion and go on,
because I literally dead Reckoning ends with the last shaw
of the submarine. I'm going to dexter machete this and
start the movie on the submarine and see if that works.
There's a few details that. Don't worry, they're gonna flash
back to you if you didn't. Oh, a character died
in the first act. Really, you're not gonna show us
ten fucking times them talking to Ethan like guess what
they're not with us? It's I don't understand. I really,
I don't get it to me. I I you should
end with fallout and we should have not maybe done
the whole connective tissue thing. Yeah, I again, before I
would have said Mission possible and like overle Lo, I
would have picked Lilo over this now because this was
way too fucking long way and I didn't have to
pee like Tama. I got up because in the tenth scene,
when they're giving you exposition like, hey, have you seen
Mission Possible one? Have you seen Mission Possible three? It's like, yeah,
I have, And I'm gonna get up now because you've
told me three times about this plot point. Again, I
don't I don't get this one. I really don't understand
the choices here. So uh yeah, not to me, a
good movie, some good stuff in there, but very head
scratching choices. So Kirkland, maybe you're a bit more positive
than us. We'll see for yours.
Speaker 2: No, I think you guys made some great points. I
think I definitely agree. This is a very messy, uh
film where it just seemed like we had checkboxes to
check off before we end the franchise. It's like, oh, wait,
we're out of movies. Let's just throw them all in
here and let's just make it a three hour film.
Completely agree. I honestly think you could take out a
full hour out of this movie and it's and it'd
be totally fine. Yeah, we're kind of joking about it.
When we're walking out of the theater. It's like as
if someone like through in the YouTube recap what you
need to know before mission Pau'sible Final Reckoning, and they
just tacked it right into the movie. It's like when
you start Netflix and it's like skip recap. I was
like looking for that button at the bottom of the
big screen, and it just it never showed up, Especially
that we just like we literally just went through all
these retros, So I'm like, oh my god, like I
could have. I could have showed up at seven for
this six fifteen showing here, and I probably still would
have been a little bit too early to get into
the juice. I completely agree with the uh like the
first hour, Like yeah, I think for me it was
the first hour. I was like, oh no, like man
like I I it got to the point where I
was super excited for the just to get going, like
let's fucking go, I'm here, big scream mission pause. So
we just went caught up on all the retros like
this is this is hype and then it was just
like and it just really took the wind out of
my sails for just how much like exposition and like
set up and like they I feel like they kind
of hide the entity in a lot of the marketing,
which is probably smart. In the in the last trailer,
that's when you like see him wearing like the suit
and everything, and it's like, Okay, I know this is
still an entity movie. I feel like I was playing
fool to myself. I'm like, oh, he's not gonna be
a big part. This is the entity movie even more
so than the second or sorry, the first part, and
I absolutely hate the idea of what the entity is.
I will say though, all that being said, I had
a fucking fun time with this movie, and I will
defend it to an extent. I think this is miles
superior than what I saw of Our Mission Possible too.
I will die on that hill. I think, just like
for me, Like like Tras you said, there's good sequences
in this movie. I think that there's horrible sequences in
this movie. But for the most part, it's it's it's
a fun time. Like I still think they captured a
lot of the just magic of what a Mission Ipossible is.
Like I was with Shane, I were just picking apart,
like the ridiculous thing that just allowed this Mission to work.
And I think I would agree with the statement that
this one has it times like ten, you know, like
times ten compared to every other Mission Possible movie. But
like this is also just the final reckoning, and it's
like every time that a crazy thing is happening, I'm like,
I'm so used to this now by going through this
whole series, Like, yeah, it's a little bit more of
a step up here, but like this is the whole
fucking point. It's a mission impossible, and they do the
impossible missions, and Ethan's always gonna succeed. This is what's
gonna happen. So yeah, I think I will defend this
to a point, but I definitely can totally get on
board with with the fact that this is a very
messy movie. I wish, you know, in another world, we
could have been finishing off this series in a different way.
I think just what they've been leading up to with
the entity, like you can't just you turn after part
one into this one and make it believable, Like I
don't know, it would be an interesting case study on
like what that potential could be. But I like, I
I felt like halfway through the film, I was just like, whatever,
it's an ncity movie. Let's just fucking do it. I'm
I'm here for the ride, but let's see how they
round this one out. I think there were some moments
that definitely was getting me a little bit emotional just
just thinking about that this is closing off the chapter,
but definitely could have been done a lot better. But yeah,
action sequences, I mean, like it's it's amazing, Like it
is such a fun visual experience in the big screen theater.
We got the good old Tom Cruise. Thanks for coming out, guys,
watching movies the way that it should be. I just
crack up every time I see that. We gotta start
doing that for our movies, Like one of our movies.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do I got the perfect one.
Speaker 2: And you gotta see my eyes watching like the teleprompter too,
when you're reading it off, like make it like really obvious,
like it is, so yeah, skip, what else was I
gonna say? Uh oh yeah? And just like I was
like sweating in a lot of these like action scenes
you mentioned, like the submarine. I definitely think that's gonna
be like the standout highlight highlight for everyone, even if
they like or dislike the movie. And yeah, I know
I'll save that for spoilers, but yeah, it's gonna be
an interesting discussion, I think, because I did have a
lot of fun with this one, Like I was cracking
up in scenes when I shouldn't have been cracking up,
which of course makes the whole wall experience better. Doesn't
it necessarily make the film better? I guess. Last thing
I'll say too, I think the cast was was really
solid for the most part, like our main hitters. I
think they were like just fantastic. And then there's a
couple little side characters like okay, we got these guys
for the ride? What was I God, there's some Travis.
Oh yeah, it's just like fan service at the ying Yang. True.
Some of it I loved.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all bad in there, but there
it was a lot of it, And there's some that
just it changes nothing about the story. Why we do this?
Why is this person related to this person? Why is
this person? I was there that day?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, the one relationship thing. That one was like,
what the fuck? Man?
Speaker 1: That's Ray Skywalker bad? Especially the motivations that gives that character.
It's like, this doesn't make any sense at all, Like
especially we just did well. I just rewatched Dead Reckoning
and it felt like two characters they put on a
completely different track, and this movie it's like, uh no,
they're they're doing something completely different. It's weird. I will
say because I think this works. Nonsploor and we'll talk
more and spoiler. I think she's a great actress. I
think she's not bad in this movie. But I think
Kevin Hayley in this role instead of Ferguson didn't work
for me. Yeah, it worked a little bit in the
first but the emotional strings are pulling here because I remember,
I can't remember if it was money or if it
was something else with Ferguson, and she wanted out, and
if you're watching this also, you know they kill her off.
It it felt like at times it was written for her,
but it's not, because we've just met Grace and I
I think a lot of things did not work with
that character. Nothing because of Haley at well, just because
of the circumstances there. And I think if you're talking
about those emotional bits, if this was ilsa man would
have hit ten times harder. But it just was it
was lacking. It was there's not enough here, not enough
meat on the bone to do these type of scenes,
or not enough times passed, or even not enough time
with these characters, because like that's the good and bad thing.
A lot of time these characters together, it's the whole crew.
So it's like and even last movie, it's like Haley
at Will and Tom cruise there together a lot, but
like lots of it's like the car chase where they're
handcuff together. It's not like an emotional bonding scene where
we got that with Ethan and Ilsa, right, but here
they were hitting strings where it felt like they wanted ferguson,
but things didn't work out with her in the studio,
so it's like, well, we'll shift that story to Grace
now and did not work for me again. Nothing with
Haley though, nothing wrong there, and I think they have
fine enough chemistry. I don't think they've reached the levels
of obviously with the cruise and fergus and have, But
it was beats that didn't work per se, and now
I thought, maybe you should just lifted those, not even
have them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Still she could still be in the movie even friend,
but there's certain I don't care. It's like certain almost
romantic beats were like, ah, this just isn't really working
for me right now, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I completely agree with it. It seems like
the not necessarily the role, but like the position that
this character is being Grace like, it just seems like
it's written for Ilsa, for just what their emotional pie
would be. So yeah, I completely agree with you there. Yeah,
I know, yeah, I completely agree with what you said,
and store it was also really good. I think past
that I'm ready to go spoilers. Yeah, and I would
recommend this, and I would choose this over Lelo, even
though I am still excited to see Lelo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, the recommendation stuff. Ferguson said she
chose the Leamish Apostle franchise permanently because her character Sofels
was becoming a team player and she felt the story
art come to a natural and she also said that
she didn't feel the role was worth significant time conmmit
and require permission impossible film, which obviously these take a lot.
And I think what she's just kind of saying is, yeah,
she's not a main character and she's part of the team,
and that's fine, but they should have they should have
made her a team player or like, not a team player.
Speaker 2: I would have taken like she wasn't actually dead, like
just to have her in here. Honestly, I would have
been totally up is gone to just have her in
that scene or not that scene, sorry, in that sequence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 2: I almost spoiled that. I'm not gonna say so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's get into spots if you're
not see this movie and take her for a sad
break and then we'll be right back and we are back.
So I'm gonna usually you don't do this, but I'm
miss say. We're gonna mostly go from begin the end
because I don't want to miss some stuff. If we
jump over, that's fine. But this movie, god, how does
it even start to go back to like the very beginning.
I'm trying to get back there because.
Speaker 2: This long movie HS tape puts it in. Uh right,
you got the great Angela Bessette who's been promoted to
president of the United States, so good for her character
in this situation, the world was fucked. Yeah, and she's
doing like an emotional speech to uh Ethan basically, please
give us the doomsday device. We promise not to do
anything nefarious with it, even though we probably.
Speaker 1: There menacely being like release smallpox. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this kind of leads into the montage of
kind of what you're leading to the spoiler free section,
and which this is fine.
Speaker 1: Because she's thanking them for a service. She's trying to appeal, right,
because the ideas the country like all this stuff is happening.
Of course, I set up like the entity has followers
and they're all fucking like religious Zella's pretty much it's like,
oh God, and like you said, Kirkland the that and
I guess for me that's where I'm I can't enjoy
this me that much because at least Dead Reckoning for
me is a mission possible movie. But then it's like, oh,
this villain kind of sucks with the entity, where to me,
this is a this is an entity movie. You know,
it's all based around that. But yeah, they try to
plead with them, and I don't mind this. She's pleading
with them and while she is like talking about all
these times she he saved the world and all these sacrifices,
they show everything right, that to me was all working.
I think that was good. And I was questioning, like, Okay,
it's it's weird like usually in these franchises if it's
an ending when we get this at the end, But
it kind of made sense that she's just trying to say, hey,
please come in and you know, meet with me so
we could talk and stuff. So I think that all worked.
I think it was just tough as we continue on
because god, I can't I know which scene is coming soon,
but I'm just trying to remember how we get there,
but someone take the ball or don't.
Speaker 3: It's the whole that whole scene, the whole starting point
is just for me. It's messy. And yeah, them just
like setting this up where he come on in bring
us the key, and you have to remember too, like
this is only two months after the previous film, and
I feel like after everything, to me, it feels like
it's been a lot longer of a period of time.
Especially with Aley Attwell's character. I feel like, Okay, she's
had a little bit more experiences with the IMF and
she's one of one of their own now, but no,
that's not the case. And with things being expedited here,
it's like, Okay, we have this weird fight scene where
two guards attack these other guards to rescue like Palum
Clementi's character, and then all of a sudden it's like,
oh no, it's actually Ethan and Benji, and all of
a sudden they recruit the other guy who is hunting them,
but they totally ignored the other guy, like it's just
and then it cuts to the next scene where they're
on this next mission and it's going they're at the
galla and then they get like electrified and then they
have to break out all of a sudden and then Yeah,
it's just it's so fast. And this is before we
even got the title card yet, before they've actually got
on their mission.
Speaker 2: When the Tubble cards were all in, I turned to Shae,
I'm like, it's just getting started. Let's get into there now.
You know, we're all cut up. No. I feel like
the Galla sequence was the first moment where I'm like, oh, no,
we're like we're in trouble. It seemed it seemed like
I was missing something like I'm one part one to
part three and I miss part two or something like
in that series of events, because it's like, hey, we're
at the Galla. This is gonna be an interesting like
cat and mouse situation with Ethan like trying to find
Gabriel here. And then they just like there's two guards
that just confront It's like, we got eat the nut?
How do you know it's me. It's like, okay, we're
gonna call it in. And then Grace just randomy shows
up dismounts their radios like instantly, and like they're in
the middle of like an event where they could be like, uh,
like there's someone with a gun here. Like even if
they get shot, they're kind of doing their job. And
I don't know, like they're security guards, they're kind of
supposed to. I mean, they're better than security guards. They're agents,
I would assume. So I found that whole moment so
head scratchy and like, I don't even know what to
compare it to. It's just like bad television.
Speaker 1: Even how they gap sure it's him and Grace talk
in the closet, then they move the curtain. These two
just big guys the needles for some reason. They they
they need Ethan twice, like just so like shows a badass.
Speaker 2: And that's what they've been waiting for you, Like, yeah,
that was so weird.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I'll say. This movie is just obsess
like obsessed with sucking Ethan Hunt's dick. Like everybody will
pull almost signs just like you're the greatest a man
that I've lived, don't you know? And he's always like, oh,
thank you, like like he's so modest about it, but
fuck man, like it happens. There's so many speeches about it.
But yeah, those two characters Briggs, which we'll talk about later,
and the other guy was Digas, who was strange because
like this, I mean, we'll still jump forward and everything,
and Ted reckoning him and breaks up a conversation about
the entity, and Briggs like, oh, well, you know he
can't trust Hunk because you know, uh what if he
gets the entity? What would one man do? Like he
asked the digas or I think that's how you say,
Like what would you do with it? He's like, why
I turn my superior. He's like, that's too much power
for one man to have, even though how's this movie
and like one man has the power of the antony
and Vegas is like, you know later, yeah, pretty much,
And even even with Briggs, like it felt strange to me,
like I get it right where the whole movie and
I didn't like these characters last time, but the whole
movie in direct and he's hunting them down right, And
then they get to the train sequence and they have
an understanding. When Ethan Hunts jumps, he still goes, oh
no wait, but like it felt like a Okay, I'm
starting to see the shades of Ethan hunt He's not
a bad guy, but I still got to bring him
in where this felt like there was just like a
hatred for him. Astor again to why it's the dumbest
fuck it. Let's just talk about now, because I don't
know how much we'll talk about Briggs. At some point,
some other rigamarole happens. We'll go back to the plaza
torture scene, because I there's some beats in there, that's fine,
but I Gabriel is a whole nother cookie to break into.
There's just just fucking but he just like when they
get caught at the plaza and the time a Gallas Sorry, yeah, no,
the plaza. At some point, Ethan of course, is arrested, right,
he's coughed. He's sitting in this car, this shopper with
Briggs and Briggs. Yeah, he's pissed off for some reason. Whatever,
I'm bringing you in and I'm sorry about your friend again.
We'll get there too. But he's like, yeah, I know
you're your real name. It's it's Jim Phillips. Huh. And
then so what they decided to do. They decide to
make this character the son of John voy in the
first one, which is very odd because you know what
Alseod they do. They give him the motivation. He's like, yeah,
where were they It was Prague, right, in the first movie.
I think he's like, yeah, and that your whole team
died in pro right, we had we saw it seemed
like five fucking times. It's more like two, but still
the fact that we saw it twice in both the Elevator.
He's like, you know in Prague, your team died and
everyone thought it was you, but then somehow my dad
took the fall for it, and Ethan his thoughts, like
it's all true. No, it's not, it's not true. I
would understand if it was a situation where he got
a innocent even those team members, right, it was not
Ethan's fault, but if he felt guilty for it. But
Jim Phillips was a full on bad guy in Mission
Possible whenever you can say he's working for different countries whatever.
Speaker 3: But like I fucked your mom to.
Speaker 1: He and your sister, but like he's son. He is
a villain in in that movie. But all of his
motivations Briggs, now Jim Phillips Junior is you kill my
dad and pretty much framed him for it. Right, And
now Jim Phillips thinks that he is Jim Phillips junior.
Story he is like responsible for all This's like he's
gone rogue so many times. And yet again the last
movie I felt was turning him around, but okay, maybe
he's not fully turned. To make him this guy's son
change is nothing. Just make him Kittrick's fucking lap dog.
This hey, Henry Cavill's like it feels so odd. And
again this is like to me a full Tom Cruising.
The fact that the villain has gray hair and everything
that's make Tom look you younger. This guy is John
Voight's son but looks older than Tom Cruise. It's such
a fucking like he should be like a younger character.
In my opinion, Tom Cruise is the same age John
Voight was now a Mission Impossible one. He's that same age.
So when they did that, that for me was the
biggest irol. That's very much like Rise of Skywalker, like
oh who he related to how pau Patine return. It's
just like really like, yeah, why, especially with the director
this week being like, oh fan serves some movies. It's
like a poison that's a bad thing. It's like, what
is this? Then there's no reason to tie him to
Jim Phillips here. It's and for even Hunt not to
be like, you know, like it was a you know,
like I loved your dad till like he turned like
whatever an explanation, but he just say, yeah, it's all true.
That's not all true. And my last poet is like
when I got up. I never got up in movies.
But when they're explaining Ethan Hunt for the fifteenth time,
when they're in the debrising and they're going for through
everything he's done, like, oh the Kremlin you bombed. That
will actually someone try to bomb? Oh Prague, you stole
the knockilas well? Was because of this? Wouldn't they have
this in the file already? Wouldn't have been Hey, Ethan
Hunt in Mission Apossible one. We thought he was guilty,
but this was the chain of events. We rest as parents,
but we were wrong. Kitchers admit the wrong, same thing
and fucking the Kremlin. Oh we thought they bombed, but
it's wrong. So why is it. One guy's reading you
bonbed the Kremlin and someone's like, well, actually no, it's
not how that went. This would all be there. It's
felt like he's been on the run for thirty years
and they finally caught him. But that's not it. He
always reports back so I just it's I always mad
the rogue stuff, but this was a level above of
like why does no one actually know he was an
innocent man? Why do they still like it's no sense?
Speaker 2: It was weird too for that specific like scene with
Kittridge because he mentions that the bombing of the Kanlin
was to like specifically kill Ethan, even though that's not
actually what it was. Like it was it was supposed
to diverge from like the attention that they still.
Speaker 1: Distraction so the guy could steal that briefcase and jump
off a parking lot later.
Speaker 2: So I thought that was a little bit strange, but uh,
I don't know. I guess the info gets a skewed
down the line. But no, I completely agree with this
is one tie that was so unnecessary and does absolutely
nothing to change it. Like if I watch Mission Possible
one now, I'm not gonna be thinking about baby Briggs
that comes later on and trying to avenge his father
and like he's he has such a smaller role than
he even has in part one, and like you would
think that like in part one, it's like I'm going
after my father's killer that pinned all this on him,
like like that's his vendetta, and it's almost like like
a side plot for this character. It's like, Okay, I
understand why he fucking hates Ethan Hunt so much, but
in this one, you don't even have a lot of
those moments because it's just we like, there's so much
going on in this film, and then we like quickly
cut to him and he's like, yeah, I remember you.
You you put it all on my father. Like you said,
the actual interaction is not even satisfying at all, Like
it's not even like no that they really pulled it off,
Like it's kind of weird that they tacked also on
the movie. But that scene was really good, absolutely not
completely forgettable, completely unnecessary, and if anything, it like brings
down like it it doesn't add to the film, it
actually takes away from it. So that was you know,
it happens a couple of times in this film. I
think it actually knocks some of the things that's earlier.
You know, we'll get to the rabbit's foot situation.
Speaker 1: But uh, how dare you been? Nine eleven on My
Father's He did it man, Jim Phillis was locking He's
sole Anochilus. He was gonna sell these people you're protecting,
He's gonna sell it all out, Like yeah, it's just
it's it was such a weird jump, Like I said,
that would just be in file now because like, what
does that mean I'm to expect either this guy Briggs
Jim Fields Junior is an idiot or Mission Impossible Still
we working with Ethan Hunt and they think there's still
a chance that he stole the knocklist for his own game,
and like, well, so let him be an agent, Like clearly, yeah,
this whole time he might have went rogue, like in
a real rogue, like you know what, actually, uh, we'll
just give a past see returned the list and we'll
let his parents go. It's like, what are we doing here?
It's super weird. Darre You like Jim Fields Junior, he
excited to se him in Mission Possible nine.
Speaker 3: Like I I My shock level was there. I mean
I was not expecting it. But it doesn't change the story.
It does nothing. I don't know why they did this
and all you see with this character too, and I
feel like, okay, it was an afterthought because we saw
this character in uh Dead Reckoning, and I don't think
that they were setting them up to be the Sun
in Dead Reckoning. I think they were just doing it
here because this movie was literally just a homage and
a callback to that first Mission Impossible and the Mission
Impossible three say those two specifically, Oh and then you get.
Speaker 1: You just remind me of another thing. Fuck.
Speaker 3: So that being said, though, it just yeah, just with
this character, I don't know, it's just he he felt
so out of place. There was a lot of characters
that they put in here that I felt like they'd
just given like the camera, and it didn't feel like
they really fit the story. It felt kind of again choppy.
We would get a scene with Ethan Hunt meeting another
person like this guy here, and it just didn't feel right,
Like when he wakes up on the helicopter and the
guy's like, oh, I know your tricks, dad, Dad. He's like,
you know that's the.
Speaker 2: Problem with you?
Speaker 3: Then you don't follow orders, Like we don't need this.
This dialogue here isn't the problem.
Speaker 1: It seems to be working out pretty well for him
for thirty years now, you know, like, just let him
do his thing. But yeah, so to go back, we
have fuck, we have they get caught. I guess I
don't know which one they establish again we should talk
about this that Ethan, h Benji, and Luther they're all
working undercover. They're in the fucking sewers, they're off grid da.
Let's talk about Luther. For some reason, they make this
character sick. Don't know why, because they're gonna kill him
off in ten minutes. There's no like I would understand
if he's alive. The whole time, it's like, oh, why
is Vin raised on his mission? Well, they've made him
sick so he can't follow them yet, d da da
and like it to me, I don't care if it's like, well,
I'm gonna record you this message that was also so convoluted,
just have the mission and and then it plays a
tape and Ethan in this moment like oh my god,
I'm here on Luther not be like, hey man, I
record your message, but it's not.
Speaker 2: Gonna walk out of the woods somehow. I'm like, okay,
they're just gonna have him like parachuting in or something
like you thought I died.
Speaker 1: I got out of there, brother, Like and this isn't
even subtext. He literally says that Ethan, I have something
to tell you, but you can't hear it. Until after
the mission, and the advice is not anything like secretive,
nothing like to me anything, this is some info he
might want before like motivating. It's just Luthor making like
a raw ross speech like that's all it is, Like
I believe in you, Ethan, like maybe give him that
in the moment he's in a fucking submarine being like
I'm freezing my fucking dick off right now. Like but
Luther said I could do, Like it's so weird to
actively tell It'd be different if he told Benji like, hey,
just make sure after the mission, like he hears us
to tell Ethan, I need to tell you something, but
I can't tell you right now. I'll tell you how
this mission it's it feels so just like you're gonna wait.
And to me, that also spoiled that he lived because
when he's falling in the sky, we know we have
to hear this tape, so that's gonna happen. So there's
no okay, there's no tension for me because what there
is fucking Gray's gonna hear Luther like Ethan like, no,
that's hot. It so to me, they killed the tension
multiple times, but like again, why did they make him sick, bedridden,
if he's gonna die in ten minutes to.
Speaker 2: Defend it Devil's advocate here. I feel like it's just
to keep him in that location. Like like if he
wasn't switch, he could he could move, he could move,
he could have a.
Speaker 1: But he chops to stay there and be on the computer.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know he moves, he can have mobile shop.
Maybe it's just the semi truck or on a train
that's just going around fucking Europe or something.
Speaker 3: But they set it up in the previous one, whether
he Luther was like, yeah, I gotta go off grid
for like two years or whatever, like three months later,
three months later, and they left them like this is
the the device. This be stick is the the ace
in the hole, and they just Ethan puts it back
in his pocket and leaves him there in his little
bunker with his mysterious nurse that gets killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't have been anybody.
Speaker 2: I just like the thought now that like if there's
a world that Gabriel actually won and he like plugs
it in, he's like all right, yeah, the entity's mine,
and then it's just like, hey, I knew you were
exactly you Gabriels just fucking laugh and like, yeah, media laughing,
the killed Gabriel now.
Speaker 1: In a fucking fring gone, which we'll get there, but anyway,
so that happens, they do this whole setup where of
course Gabriel has a fucking mega tongue nuke and.
Speaker 2: Many of those and then the one at the end.
Are you getting these? Like it was such a hard
deal for John Locke to get the plutonium and fall
out and here we are whereas and like I swear
every bomb that he brought up was like ten times
bigger than the last. It's like this one's gonna just
decimate London. This one's gonna just nuke the entire continent
of Africa or like whatever it was.
Speaker 1: That thing about that plutonium though, always has like a
fucking twenty minute time or something. You can never just
find a platonium bomb that you can just like snap
like that, even in fucking Fallout and uh, what is
it rogue nation? Like this plutonium man, it takes some
time to warm up. But so of course, yeah, there's
in a bass doomsday bunker, right, yeah, Dunes, it's their
dooms a bunker.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: He logs and rams in there who's sick and has
his fucking he's he's looking like a sick dog as
Grell's giving his fucking villain speech. We'll get to him.
So they set up that, like, Gay, you can stop
this bomb, but someone has to be there to detach
and they're gonna die. They locked it and gave Youth
the no choice. And again this was my other thing
of him not being sick. To me, it felt like, kay,
Luther's not looking good. Even if they're successful, he probably
he doesn't have much time left, right, so it's like
it's it's really sad to louse Luthor here, but if
he's already on his way out, it's not that much sadder.
I thought it'd be worse, like, no, he's in complete help,
he's ready to go back on that mission, and no,
we gotta lose him. Same like later on when they're
like one of you have to stay at the bomb,
and Simon Pegg who is on death's door, like, well,
I'm not saying, like.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't to hack in?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: They need his skill.
Speaker 1: I understood. I understood that later on, So I was
like at the time, though.
Speaker 2: In the moment, I'm like, this guy should probably stay back.
Speaker 1: He's like, how fucking selfish. They're like someone's got die.
Then you got a fucking guy from him. I one
like I guess me and my wife and my wife.
But then when they got the machine, I was like
ok and I did think like, okay, they probably need
him so fun but here again want to hit. But yeah,
that's how we lose him. And for it's like, then
you only got a few minutes and get out of here.
And you get Tom Cruise who runs along this movie,
and he runs out of there, and then the fucking police.
I don't even know who shay Wigghams aka Breaks aka
Jim Films works for. Like last movie was an IMF
but he's working with And even last movie, Kittridge was
on the train and he had some remark like, well,
you're not supposed to be here, so it doesn't consider
like he was throwing shade the Kittridge in this movie,
he's like, fucking buddy, buddy. They're like he's like saying
his life. It's like what happened in these last three months?
But yeah, we lost Luther. Yeah I wish this was
more emotional for me. It didn't hit the way I wanted,
just because I think there's just some kind of goofy
stuff going on. But uh, it made sense. We had
to lose somebody we thought we would, and I think
I feel like we all said Luther was probably it,
but like I think I was like Luther and Ethan,
if anyone has to go with, probably those two. And
you know he sacrifice play so good for him.
Speaker 2: I feel like when we first see Luther and they
like show his deathbed just sitting there, he's like, he's
he's I mean, they're all looking older and this is
the final film here, but like just he's super He
looks sickly as such. He's like basically in his hospital gown.
I'm like, oh, we're losing Luther. We're losing him quick here.
I didn't think it was gonna go the route it did.
I'm with you. I wish the moment was more emotionally tying.
I'm okay with the decision to have him being sick
and this is just kind of like his final his
final mission. I like the speech that he gives to Ethan.
I like just the classic Luther like stoicism, Like he's
just super calm, like in that moment when fucking Gabriel
basically doing his evil mustache trail like you're fuck now,
mister Luther, and he's like hey man, and then uh, yeah,
I don't know. I like the moment. And then, like
I said earlier, like I kind of completely forgot that,
he mentions like, yeah, I got something to tell you afterwards.
So in the moment when like I actually heard ving
Raim's voice, I was getting a little bit emotional, honestly,
even though it could have been a little bit better.
I'm okay with that decision there. But yeah, then just
last comment on the Benji on his death bed, I'm like,
are we actually gonna kill off ving Raim's and Simon
peg the exact same way where they're like dying, They're like,
I'll stay back with the bomb. So I'm I'm glad
I didn't go that route. And yeah, I thought Benji
was gonna kick the dest but kind of get ahead
myself there.
Speaker 3: I thought it was too I really did think Benji
was gonna go. But Luther's death scene it just I
don't know. I'm not like I like the character and
I like them a lot, but I don't feel like
they needed to kill him off. I don't feel like
they needed to do the whole medical kind of thing
or whatnot, because just killing him off but then not
killing anyone else off, it just doesn't feel like the
stakes are very high. And there are a couple you know,
there are a couple of moments where they steered year round
and you thought, oh, this guy gonna die, but no,
everyone everyone's safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was also, uh, just thinking back
to Rogue Nation when Ethan's in his classic I m
F briefing and then the lady gets killed by this
one random new agent gets killed by oh my gosh,
what's his name, the leader of the syndicate Shaw, Oh
my god, yeah, Lang Lang. Like like that moment, remember,
Ethan's just like so like just distraught on losing this lady,
and he's like, I'm gonna fucking like yeah, like he's
gonna get.
Speaker 1: The whole movie, the whole movie. The same way to
be like you look.
Speaker 2: At that just dead nurse. That was just like just
rotty way in that chair. I guess his focus is
kind of you know in the moment on h on
Luther there, but I yeah, I'm just thinking of the nurse.
It's just it's like she's got murdered by Michael Myers
or something like she was so covered in blood and vicious.
Way to go, poor family.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna know she's dead or anything like that.
She's just fucking dead somewhere like yeah, but yeah. And
then so we get this scene where I guess we
start talking about now like we referred back to later
when they get fucking showed, like Gabriel wants to see you.
I didn't mind. I think I like enjoy Gabriel enough
in the first movie. I don't know if it was
a writing choice, directing choice, actors choice. I think they
made him way too cheesy, over the top. This is
where it's the counter of like I Greeth Kirkle and
I had a good time. We had lots of fun Gabriel,
but in the sense of like kay, turn off the
it's so bad it's good for me. I think he
overcooked this a lot, like just even little stuff like
he gives ethan as Grace's plan and then they show
him in the glass and he's just like rubbing his
fucking fingers by the glass, like what are we doing here?
And he's just like it's weird. Situations where he's just
standing around doing nothing. He's like, you get Ethan, like
this guy's a train marks like he don't kill Ethan,
but he doesn't want him to, like also get away,
but I don't know. And then so another thing I
just don't like because again this is something like we
tell this and a review, and I think you guys
were more mixed on it. For me, I really liked
a mission Possible three. We didn't know what the fucking
rabbit's foot is and now be like, well, it was
the chemical like the beginnings of AI in the beginning
of the entity, and you know what, there's two things
I don't like about this. One is the revealing the
monkey in the bottle or whatever the expression is. But
like I could, I can, I won't deal with it.
Also like that's annoying, but okay, whatever to do the whole,
it's your fault, Ethan. The entity exists because you don't
need that knowing you should fucking do. Christopher Coruory put
that in Dead Reckoning, Make Tom Truce do something like
a mission, and then they like, oh, that was you know, fun,
because they do that. Remember in the mission they don't
show his face, but they show a mission where Gabriel
killed that woman he loved right like twenty three years
ago today I fucked her up, Like do that where
he's on a mission feel something, and then like you
set that up where okay, and your movie you're calling
like it's just like the J. J. Ryan Johnson thing.
It's like Cain Dead reckoning. Ethan does something specifically to
almost create the entity, right, some mission whatever, but to
be like, yeah, mission possible three, the rabbit's foot, that
was the entity, and I again to be like, Ethan,
it's your fault. I don't want that. That that irks me.
That's something where like maybe the Jim Fields Junior won't
bug me watching m I three to like I hate
that of like, no, it's not Ethan's fucking fault. It's
the people made this fault. It's all these it's you
guys are terrorists, like, but then the movie tries to
put that on like it's not like he says, it's
not my fault. No one talks them out of it.
The movie puts on Ethan and he accepts it so
us as the viewers are supposed to, except oh, yeah,
our hero created the entity accidentally and that's that's done there, dude, dude,
Dark Knight rise this thing where even then it's done,
where it's like, okay, because Batman kills what's his name,
rozo Ghoul tali Ogool comes back. It's dumb, but it's like,
all right, I can kind of see that the entity
he created the entity, and all, like the reason the
world's a World War three is because Ethan Hunt, like,
don't do this, like don't like, come on, the movie's
already has grand scale enough.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm one hundred percent there with you on
that one. I I didn't think it was like a
trope that I really hated that much, but like, thinking back,
I'm like, especially in a franchise setting, it's like remember
when you stepped on this grasshopper and in the second movie,
well that led to nuclear holocausts like that up, Yeah,
Like I just think that's such a stretch and like, okay,
we like we've been on this adventure. We fucking know
Ethan Hunt is the chosen one. Essentially, like every mission
that he goes on, he can just fucking do it.
He can hold his breath for twenty seven minutes if
he has to. He can like just do whatever has
to be done. I don't need the entity to be
telling me that like you are now the chosen one, Ethan.
I casted Gabriel to the side, like the one ring.
So yeah, I think all of that, but she wouldn't.
I actually hear like Ethan being like it was all
my fault. I'm the one that's set off the entity.
It's like, no, you weren't. Man, Like you saved the
world multiple times. I had Angela Bassett explaining that to
you in that VHS in the beginning of the movie.
It's like, you never obeyed orders, but you always saved
the day or whatever the hell she's saying. And it's
just like it's so counter like pick a side here,
like is he saving the day or is he the
like the elite, the cause to this apocalypse here?
Speaker 1: And I know we just watched it, but I can't
fully remember, but I feel like Philip Steamer Hoffman knew
where the rabbit's foot was and Ethan's team like stop
them from getting it right.
Speaker 2: So it's just like, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like that situation like they made it
sound like, because you stole it back. That's like and
even if the movie posed that way am I three,
but it doesn't. Philip Seamer Hoffman, I can't remember his name.
They name dropped again, like he his crew was all
the way again that the only reason what happens is
Ethan gets it back, so he has the idea of, oh,
I'm gonna take his fucking wife and then we gotta
make the swap. It's great, it's not oh, because you
saved your wife, you put this back in the public,
and now we're fucked. Way to go, Ethan. That's not
the story of m I three. The MI I three
is they had a mission at that point. Philip deepher
Hoffmann was ready to like release the entity, you know,
which is like, okay, cool. I liked them giving a
little more cred to him than he was like the
beginnings of it. But still it's just like, that's not
what happened. But it's tried to retroactively make us feel
and I just I just feel like Ethan doesn't deal
with that guilty even that much to the movie feel
like it's a plot point and then we move on
because there's two hours and forty five minutes movies of
other stuff to do, you know, So absolutely Taylor Rabbit's foot.
I thought you and the review said, you want to
know what it is?
Speaker 3: And now you know, I always, I always want to
know what it's not something I ever thought we would
get an answer for. And I didn't really need an answer,
but I started to laugh. That's why again I feel like, okay,
this is a direct continuation into Mission Impossible one end
three and obviously dead reckoning, But it was always yeah, together,
it was always planning.
Speaker 1: JJ new it, just like Palpatine, right, he knew it,
Ray was, you know, but.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: It's weird why you'd write biohazard on a container and
it's not got any fluids in it.
Speaker 1: It's only got electrical digital hazard, didn't you know?
Speaker 3: Ai Okaya of course, Yeah, So I don't know. It's
uh yeah, it's see.
Speaker 1: That's why sometimes it is just better to leave it unknown.
Speaker 2: You know, same thing majority of time, honestly, because it
never can like meet what you would expect it to
be in your head, Like it's like the pulp fiction
briefcase thing, like it could be fucking Leprechon turds in there.
It could be the entity. I don't know, because it's
never been answered it could be the entity.
Speaker 1: It's the same color. Fuck color fucking Vin Raims is
actually Luther in disguise. He's trying to get it. But like,
and it'd be different if this was like, oh, I
don't really want to know it, but then gross, I've
done that twice a night Ghost Protocol did that. He's like, okay,
like it's the one right after they said, but like
this is almost twenty years later that's been captured. It's like, well,
we're gonna reveal it now, and you don't have to
do that. You don't, like I said, just the amount
of cut, like the amount of footage they show of
old movies, just film a scene of like oh, Ethan
was on a mission and that TI and tied even
tied to someone with Gabriel maybe because that could have
been like oh, they never explained how Gabriel gets tied
with the entity, right, have it that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever mission they were linked to. Gabriel from day
one was tied to the entity as well, and he
helped create it, but he was down for a write
or with crew like whatever. It's just why tied damn
I three? But like that's this whole movie? Why tie?
Like and even then, like the guy I can't remember
his name, but like the guy from m I one,
that's a fun one. I got no problems with that. Yeah,
I got no problems with that. But when it's all
of it together, it feels like a lot because it's like, oh,
it's the Jim Phillips one, and then it's him, and
that's m I three, and it's like you start to
go down the list of these big ones, it's like, oh, like,
to me, the only one should have been that guy
from m I one. That should have been the only one.
I think that was fun. It was a cool little moment.
I love that one actually made sense of like, oh,
so I ruined your life, but oh no, you did,
like I found a new purpose, I met my wife,
Like I learned there's more to life than just this,
Like no, I thank you. It's like and I gave
Ethan some perspective of like right, like I am here
for the people we don't meet, like what they said right.
That one actually paid off, where the Jim Phillips one
didn't pay off. The rabbits foot didn't pay off.
Speaker 2: The fact that we had the like both of them
in the same movie. You can see the start comparison
of like, this is how you do it with this
character that you have in your movie. So why did
you feel that this is acceptable to have like the
Jim Phelps one, Like like how does someone like, yeah,
that's a perfect way to tie off this this character.
Uh yeah, No, That's why I really agree with you
on that.
Speaker 1: That's why I wonder when we did those retros and
they said like, oh we did more conductive to stuff
is a marvel so and I just wonder if they
like saw Endgame and they're like, oh, we're we're gonna
do that, and it's just like, but the thing is
with Endgame, One, it didn't refer to every movie. And
two there wasn't just like logical jumps with like Peter,
I am your son, mister Robert Stark, and it's like no, no, no,
like nothing like we didn't go well, you got revelations,
but it wasn't anything like oh man, that really changes
the scope of this. So it's yeah, but ye at
that point, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Was just gonna talk about some Gabriel, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: If about Gabriel. Yeah, they get away. There's like a
fun little beat there that's when we get the title
drop when they like Ethan just fucked up a guy
and stuff and like chopped them up.
Speaker 2: I think that was the first time I heard that
child like making noise, and I'm like, there's a kid
in here, Like this is like a graph he said,
he's gone to mission impossible standards even like I feel
like most mission like there's always action, there's always kills,
but like that was like blood core, like there's like.
Speaker 1: A butcher and ow In the de's like cowe.
Speaker 2: Well just like shocked, like she just saw someone like
browly murdered and he's like, oh.
Speaker 1: I liked that scene. I liked the idea of like
they because ethan'siver like too violent and they're insane way
he's doing some violence stuff, but she's like the camera's
just on her and she's turned away close high school
and you just hear the action.
Speaker 2: That I liked it was the difference between like a
thief and like an actual killer. Yeah, like a dangerous man,
and I completely agree that. I thought that was just fantastic,
like through her eyes seeing that side of Ethan, like
they've been in peril together, but to just have that
animal like he's covered in blood too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and Gabriel Gabriel, Yeah, it's not in
the movie a lot, but he makes he sure makes
an impact and he's in it.
Speaker 2: But I agree with that actually stated because he feels
like he's in it more than he is. I'm with you.
I think, I what's the actor's name, Assi Morales. I'm
probably saying that wrong, but I just feel like he
has a certain gravitas that he carries so like in
the first film, like we don't have a lot of
like long sequence of dialogue with him, but he just
he like commands presence when he's there, and especially like
even without like Ethan's like I'm referring back to the
last film now, but like when he has those like
AI goggles and it's like glitching out around him, like
he just feels like an entity in and of itself. Yeah,
then I feel like it's it's now that I've seen
this whole film, I'm like, man, this character is so
much better in small dosages, like like like he the
more stoicxcited, The character is so much more interesting too.
You know, we haven't been talked about it. Like by
the time that you that you get to the plane sequence,
he literally he literally becomes perk angle at the end,
like he's like like laughing like that and smiling and
he's just got.
Speaker 1: Rock fucking right now, man.
Speaker 2: But it looks like he's like biting that ethan like
in the air. Like I don't even know what the
fuck that sequence was. But uh, and like even before that,
like when they're in the actual doomsday bunker, he just
seems so mustache totally. And uh, it's not really what
the vibe that I get from him in the first
part of.
Speaker 1: No In the first part, I got the vibe that
I think it was not as well than the him
less time, but I felt like they were like doing
an sugar Anton sugar light, you know, like very soft spoken,
very quiet, but can just kill you. Like then he
has like that dead look in his eyes, right, and
I like in there, but I felt like this they
went the other side, and like Taya said, it's not
been it's been like three months, so it'd be different.
It's like, oh it's been multiple years. Maybe he's just
fucking crazy, right, because they and I feel like they
tried to do that with at the beginning when Tom
Chris talks the entity Palm's like, oh, it'll change you.
So I feel like they're trying to insinuate that. He's
like Gabriel's been changed because he's seen the antity. But
it's like, I don't buy that. Ethan's not really that change.
Gabriel seems pretty much the same. Guys just hamming it up.
But like I said, we're going all over I don't
care when there's that moment that okay, he first of
all just dumb. They had the two play playing sequence. Great, yeah,
kudos to Tom Cruise, but how he gets there. He's
on the red copter and Gabriel's on the yellow. When
he's flying like right underneath him, and Gabrel's like, you're
looking around, like no idea that Tom Cruise. And even
then when they show the shot and Tom's climbing up,
Tom's climbing up in a peripheral where Gabriel is like
three to four feet behind him and he still does
not see even after a bump and then just go.
But then when he was on the plane, he's like
looking around whatever. That was cheesy, But so of course
he gets the best of them. He pulls him, you know,
off the shrub, and I don't know why they showed
I get it. Gabriel has the necklace with the poison pill.
They showed that shot like twenty times. It's like, I understand,
I get it. We know we're going for But of
course Ethan finally gets the best of them, throws them
off the copter and Gabriel's high like hanging on and
he's like, only one of us has a parachute, Ethan,
and then for some reason they decide to give him
a scary movie death. He lets go, he gets nutsacked
and then he his whole body does a contortion and
then it lands on the oh and then he's dead.
I said to Taylor, if I'm in the editing room,
I say, you cut the fucking nuts like one and
just smash cut to head copter because I still thought
it was cheesy. Him the look in his eyes and
him saying that Ethan still thought it was cheesy. But
when they have him died like a nutshot, he literally
felt like scary movie was making a mission possible already,
like it felt comedic. It felt like Cindy getting hit
with the car like it. It killed the moment for me.
It killed, Yeah, it ruined it. We had a good
time with all of us.
Speaker 2: Were the whole theater laughed in this moment. And this
is like the villain for Ethan thinking that this is
what he want to go to IMF. This is literally
the start of his IMF career, is it's framed, Yeah,
and killed Rebecca Ferguson, the person that should have been
in this mother Like this is the most important villain
for like the whole scope of the franchise, not in
my rankings, but just like in the whole scope exactly.
And this is how we kill him off in a
scary movie way. And the whole theater literally laughed when
that happened, like like that should be like a like
I get like a gut reaction if you just see
his head splat, but the fact that he splits and
right before that, I'm gonna have to play it again.
Speaker 1: Only one and.
Speaker 2: Then just nuts himself, Like my gosh, what are we
doing here? People?
Speaker 1: I finally thought I thought they're gonna have Ethan say
I want and like kick him or something, because like
Gabriel has this weird fucking fetish She's like say I
want Ethan, say fucking say I won so hard, like
just tell me, man.
Speaker 2: Tell me like he's like buying hookers and he's like,
say I want, like say that you're Ethan's say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're coming, say that I won, even though
you're coming, say that I want. So I thought, oh,
they're gonna give Ethan the line here and they know
even just looks at him because he has a chip
in his mouth, and yeah, I have the last parachute,
not shot headshot dead. It's like again, why, like who
thought this was a great idea? And I think in
other movies that works, right, Like Ghost Protocol that's more
of like a comedic movie. The whole way through there's beats,
and like when he does Mission accomplished, you could have
that comedic be because it's kind of like more of
a fun event like.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: Y I'm saying Ethan in that moment when he goes
Mission accomplished and it's kind of a laugh all Protocol,
even when he's doing the Dubai scene, it's like that's
like it's always it's never too serious, right we're in
I three, there's not like imagine if Philip seen er
Hoffmann died that way after threatening to kill like after
the like seven and like he got nut shot at
you'd be like, what movie are we watching? That's what
I mean, where you can do that scene, but then
you have it has to be a different mission possible.
It has to be way more of a fun going.
This is a popcorn adventure. This is not World War Three.
That's in a different movie. This movie where it's a
fun reckoning him getting nutshot by the plane and those
acting choices. I said to Tanna car it felt like
he was E McDermott in the Palpatines and he was like,
I am the Senate. He's making those faces with the
That's what he was going. And again I don't know
if it was direct. I think it was because, like
I said, I think they're trying to make us think
that he's a different man because he's been talking to
the entity the same way Ethan's now a different day,
That's what I'm thinking. Or they just made it more
radical because there's been some time, because he was not
like sure he shot a couple of smiles, but he was.
Speaker 2: Not this level in no, no, yeah, no one thing,
one thing I'll or last thing I'll throw on. Just
the cheesiness. That added to that the fact that like
this guy like he clearly like this is his plane.
I would imagine he knows how to fly it, like
he knew where they were it, he knows everything about
the plane and he's like only one parachute? Does he
not know there's another fucking parachute like in the seat
where like Tom Cruce, It's exactly like it was, like
it was kind of an intense sequence, like it actually
reminded me of no time to die, Like when you
have that realization that it's like okay, like James Bond
is not making off his island here, like when he's
holding it when he calls les Do and I'm like
getting chills, like just accepting, like the waterworks are basically
starting to develop. I'm like, oh, I'm like this is
actually happening right now, like we're actually killing this character.
I first split second I actually had that thought when
Ethan is in the plane and he's like trying to
put the chip in and then he just sees smoke
and then like the the the plane lights up. I'm like,
this is how he dies, Like this is actually gonna
be the end here. Did you have a.
Speaker 1: Problem though with him like getting out a copter before
it put the chip in, like I.
Speaker 2: Thought, like put that priority.
Speaker 1: There was like five shots of him like going to
the chip and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna do this
first it's like it's like he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Part of me was like, Okay, maybe you have to
be closer, like it's like a range thing so he
knows that like it wouldn't work. But yeah, no, one
hundred percent, because they they never explained that. He just oh,
I think, just be cooler if I'm out of the plane,
or he's just looking after his life over the entirety
existence of mankind in that moment, which probably a poor
judgment call. So a couple of messy things part of
me in that sequence for sure, But yeah, I want
to say, like in that moment when the when the
planes'sl like up, I'm like, holy fuck, this is actually
it like we're gonna say goodbye to Ethan Hunt here. Nope,
just fucking puts on a shoot and then and then
it's it's almost like like a like a one up
on that when when he's flying he's trying to put
the chip in, and then his parachute like lights on fire. Again,
I'm like, oh my God, like we're actually having this
moment again. Nope, spare parachute vibes. Hear ving Raim's it
all worked out and it's just like that that that's weird.
I don't know how. I was kind of bothered by
it in the moment, and the more I think about
it now, it's just it adds to the corniness to
Gabriel's death in that moment, and I definitely enjoyed him
going per gangle for just enjoyment wise, but that's something
that I think on rewatches, it's just gonna bother me
more and more.
Speaker 1: That because I like that show. When he had the pair,
that was the only time where I thought, oh, it's
over for him, because I was like, I know Luther's
things coming, so I thought, oh, maybe there's a chance
he's gonna like hear it falls.
Speaker 2: Hey brother, I knew you were gonna do it.
Speaker 1: It's like a boy, he's over Luther. But then you
go to Ethan and she's like, like, you can't hear
it at all, like and it's just Luther. But like,
the only time for a second I was semi convinced
is like you said that shot when he has the
parachute and just burst some flames and like fuck, like
what do you do? But no, Ethan was fine. His
whole team walked away like not Luthor. But like even
at the end, they just weirdly meet up in the
middle of a street, like did you not just pay
a restaurant to show up? Like why are you doing
it this way? Is Dagas Like he's not even imf
why why see? Like I know he's on the team,
but it's like is he now? Like he's disappearing, Like
it is the same thing with paulm Like she's international criminal.
I guess they can bring her in now, but who
does what's going on? And fucking Tom Cruise is walking
off with the entity and you know why, Jimmy thinking
that they did this just because I wouldn't put it
past them to do another one, because I just don't
think Tom Cruise, I like the final Wreckting was just
a ploy to make this happen. Cruise is gonna go
do a couple of different movies like Top Gun three,
that and you wrought to a movie and then they
can you know, the returning Wreckting or whatever. Like it
for me didn't feel like an end to this character.
It felt like a massive mission, but didn't feel like, wow,
I went on a jury, they didn't even do that
because what I was convinced because Maddy putting that poll.
I think we tell about a couple of retros that
at first I thought when we got the time, like, oh,
he's gonna die. But then I came around to they're
gonna do the Dark Knight Rise is where it's gonna
seem like he dies but he's like written off but
he could still do something. But this was like, nope,
he just successful. Mission did it again. Ethan, you're the
fucking best man, because I just like Tom Cruise was like, well,
you know, Eathan Hunt wouldn't die, and it's like something
sometimes you gotta die, like especially like I thought they were,
especially in the cave. Ethan turns to Banji AND's like,
take care of your team. I thought, oh, this is
like the passing that like it's gonna be Benji's team
from now and then I can be like, oh, you
could do Mission imposs with I don't think Simon peg
would ever be lead, but you could bring in you know,
a Glenn Powell, hot young up start, but like, oh,
they've set up this team and if they want to
do more. You got like the spirit of Tom Cruise
and Ethan, but he's gone, you know, but it's like, no,
you don't need the spirit. I'm right here. It's just
it just felt, oh, just okay, another mission and sometimes yeah,
the hero does need to die, you know in my opinion,
And I just because this does not feel like the ending.
It just like and maybe it is, maybe they never
do another one, but it just feels like, Okay, this
was another mission. But it felt like Cruise like disappeared
to the crowd of the Entity. It's like, where is
he going to release smallpox? Next? Like what's he doing? You?
Speaker 3: No, in the next the next movie, whatever thready faces,
the Entity is gonna be his ally and they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna hundred percent you know how we could solve this,
how even I can't do Luther, We're gonna release the
easy Yeah, the Entity one hundred per cent.
Speaker 5: Hey, brother, remember the y he rewrote programs because they
made such a big point of like, there's only one
man in the world we can trust with this, And
then like you know what to do with this is
like what is he doing?
Speaker 1: Because I guess I assume you just can't destroy the
US stick because I guess the entity would just like
disperse the electronics, right, No, I mean.
Speaker 3: No, because it's it was basically all in cyberspace and
then it okay, its plan was to go into the bunker,
the doomsday bunker, and be isolated there, but it went
to the safest part of that bunker was in this
like like okay, exposable hard drive.
Speaker 1: But so but you're saying, so if they get this thing,
this hard drive, and Ethan just like blenders it up,
the Entity's gone.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, it can't. Just it's not an aerial
airborne thing.
Speaker 1: And so for me this is like and I hate it,
but I get it. And Harry Potter when fucking he
gets like the Elder one and he breaks him like
you never know you might need that again, Baltimore's come back.
How many times you're breaking this in this movie. I'm like,
the entity needs to go, and what does he thought
to do? Let me keep this like like this is
like because to me, I thought, the payoff is like,
you're this is the most powerful thing ever crying world, Ethan,
you know what to do with it? What should we do?
And I thought, oh, the easy ploy is he destroys
it and showing like, no, this is not the most
powerful thing we as a people. You know, they're doing
the whole America speech like we're more powerful, we don't
need this. But Noah, he kept it for safe tidings,
just in case he needs something. It's like, man, fucking
need this, this motherfucker, Like no one in the government
has such a problem with him. But Tay, we're coming
on with some tangents. What are your your final thoughts
here on on Gabriel and some of his antics this movie.
Speaker 3: Uh, he totally is a step down from everything that
I and I say this loosely because I didn't like
him that much in the previous movie. But yeah, he's
just he's a step down. And yeah, he's just the
fact that he was no longer under the I guess
the protection are just involved with the entity that they
broke disbanded it, they broke up. Yeah, he was just
ready to go off the rails here. He had his
own plan. Now it is written as he was saying,
And yeah, just the kookiness of his character when he
was the whole plane sequence and they're like upside down
like he's looking at Ethan and then he's.
Speaker 2: Just like, what's his plan here? Right? Because he needs
the device that Ethan has, and he's like, I'm just
gonna fucking ram you and take you down.
Speaker 1: Well he said it in the plane, He's he said,
wherever I go, you fall, So he's just saying.
Speaker 2: That, like trying to kill Ethan in this moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll go down the flanes and get it and
then yeah, okay, even then, to me, it's like, what
Ethan gets shot while he's like, you know, when they're
pinned down and all those people a shooting at them
in like the cave there, what if he gets shot
and that bomb goes off and this thing's just destroyed?
Like even then, what if like he doesn't follow you,
what if there's no spy as good as Ethan on
that doesn't know where Gabriel? So it's such a dumb plan,
like I'm gonna run away, You're gonna chase me. It's like,
but of course it works out right because just as
he planned it, right.
Speaker 3: Well, just as he planned it. But even then, like
it's just weird because he got on the plane knowing
that he was gonna run away, and he he ran
away knowing, Okay, Ethan is not going to come after him.
So his plan was Ethan would probably get out of
there and then they would just get it later on.
But even then getting it later on, like it would
be too late because the world would have detonated.
Speaker 1: The Like That's why I didn't understand the detonating part,
because I thought, Okay, I get the idea. He's gonna
get it, stop the empty and he'll control anty, right,
but it's like, yeah, it's gonna go to nuclear war now.
Speaker 2: That was never gonna happen until Ethan lets the entity
into the server, right, because the entity.
Speaker 3: Was like, wait, right, I needed to be protected first.
Speaker 1: What was your countdown?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: That you that was the bomb in the No.
Speaker 3: No, the countdown was when the US was gonna get hacked.
Speaker 2: Or like the death.
Speaker 1: Gone one, yeah, which is like, but if they got hacked,
I guess that was the present thing. He had just
turned the nukes off, right, and that's.
Speaker 2: What she was trying to do before that happened. And
then he gets control and then they don't know that
it's waiting essentially, so they're like as soon as they
get America's missiles, they're shooting it. And then they're just
basically holding their breath for the bombs to come. They
can't do anything about it because they lost control. They
didn't cut the power in time. But yeah, from their perspective,
they have no idea why they're not going off but anything.
Speaker 1: They're just sitting in your room for three days. Like
also they make some plans.
Speaker 2: They're sitting weeks in there, just like it smells like
our twenty four hour stream much.
Speaker 1: For the seventeen like, and they're just sitting there like, well,
I hope Ethan did it, you know, and then like
ohsoe they are making some contingency plans and then they
you know, it's fine. Film expires film, there's lost films
like copy. But man, this just felt like a lesser
version of the dark knight boat scene to me, of
like it's that same setup, right of which country's gonna
knew each other first? Like and then are we gonna
end the same result? Right where Bassett doesn't turns off,
takes the key and you have some people on the
boat trying to attack other people. He had that one
secret whatever CIA who secret service guy that tries to
kill the president, And I liked that twist. We're off
from him is against her, but he still saves her
life because he knows there's a line. I'm like, hey,
I disagree with her, but we're not gonna fucking assassinate
the president. So I liked that felt very odd for
Nick Aufman to be there when I thought saw him like, oh,
it's being a much bigger role. Like, don't get me wrong,
it helps have a good actor there, but it was
just was it was odd. So I liked that. But yeah,
it's just the boat seen from Dark Knight of instead
of two boats, it's eight countries deciding, hey, should we
knew each other? But we never gonna see Canada on
the map either, you know, I know we don't do Canada,
I know, but we never when they show like everything
powered out. Don't know what happened to us.
Speaker 3: So there's no nukes.
Speaker 1: I just mean in general, like I mean like they
never like when they showed the world map, we never
saw Canada once on it, like at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada was on the when they're where as the
Saint Martin Island was, Canada was there.
Speaker 3: Great out because that's exactly only the countries that were
in red had nukes. Everything else was in white.
Speaker 2: But red were the ones that they had nukes that
were taken over by the antitud So it was never
really eight countries waiting to hit the button, because when
we start, it's like I think it's Russia, London, and
the US or oh and then China. Maybe there's like
four that still have control.
Speaker 1: And waiting for them. With the other four, then why is.
Speaker 2: Waiting for under success chance that it'll wipe out the planet.
And that's why it needs the entire world's arsenal, even
though I'm sure they have enough with the majority of
those nukes, I'm sure it could wipe out everyone. But
I guess it's just going for so that that part
I understood, even though it's it's a little like again
like well, of course, I guess we just need all
of them before we can get to uh.
Speaker 1: And it's on a time apocalypse mission. Apostles always big
with timers, but this movie, especially every fucking McGuff it's like,
you got twenty minutes, you got eighteen minutes, you got
an hour.
Speaker 2: You calculating, like we know for a fact it will
have control of our nukes at that time, Like is
that what that time was?
Speaker 1: Or yes, I think so, yeah, I think that maybe
there's some algorithm where they discovered the other countries when
they were taking over, and it's this intervals. But again,
like I just like I I personally what they've showed
the entity you could do. I don't believe the entity
could just not just take over all the countries like
that at the exact same time. Why is it like
within every three days, it's like, Okay, we're taking this one,
then we're taking America, then we're taking u K. It's like, well,
it's it's.
Speaker 3: Different levels of security, right like.
Speaker 1: God Modeay, this thing can predict everything like it's.
Speaker 3: And it's like it's and it does like it will
get in there eventually. It's just they can't do it
right away. I can imagine.
Speaker 1: I don't like the then I don't like the idea
that they literally have a clock like they figured that,
like the entity, we know that it'll take three days
for the entity to get.
Speaker 2: The time for them. You know, this is when I'm
ready to blow. This is I think my biggest issue
with this entity enemy and man, like, I feel like
when I rewatched this, you can make a drinking game.
The amount of times that they're like, we can't do
that because that's exactly what the entity would want us
to do.
Speaker 1: So we have.
Speaker 2: And I was so annoyed by in Dead Reckoning part one,
and I'm like, I fucking hate this enemy, Like like
there was situations resulted from the entity in this movie
that I enjoyed, but the whole idea of it being
the entity, and like I get it, AI is a
big thing right now that that's a big just question
on like what's gonna happen If AI is in a
situation where they can just kind of be self aware
and like make these decisions, it is relevant, but it's
still not really entertaining to me for an impossible mission,
but for the ultimate final mission, like who else is
gonna be? Like are we gonna have a character? Like
I already forgot his name again the chat from Ghost Protocol,
the Syndicate guy, like like it, like would that be
better having like a human in this situation where it's
just like the whole world?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I would rather of Gabriel been a great hacker.
I would have preferred that. And for me, it's also
just because like I feel like AI is like a
COVID thing where I think we're gonna get so many
movies in the next ten years about AI, and I
get it right, there's bad things about AI. It's taking
over to I get that. It's just like COVID, I understand,
but I just feel like it's gonna be done to death,
especially because AI. It's like I someone to say, there
in the car, it's like that's been around since it's
a fucking terminator, like the idea of A. It's not
like a new at least COVID. I understand producers being like, oh,
new concept, it hit our world, but like A, it's
like we've like blade around, like there's so many big
franchise that tackle this, but now because it's very popular
and timely, I would rather just like, yeah, Gabriel like
has an advice called the entity, but it's not like
a working, living being like I would have rather than
just put all that time into Gabriel and do that
in Dead Reckoning. I already thought that in Dead Reckoning,
but I thought that here, but in this one, like
we talked about before strapping, because it's all entity. Like
I thought that Ethan hunting when he talks to him
was gonna be like in the finale, No it's for
like twenty five minutes in and they're talking Ethan hunts
like getting fucking like assaulted by the thing, and it's
showing him and I just hate that. It's like he
like it, like literally can just read Ethan's mind, which
I don't understand. And Ethan's not saying anything like it can't.
He's not a fucking like Professor X the entity. It's
like I understand the oh, I got this equation, but
to be like I know Luther's working on the poison killed,
It's like, how do you know that?
Speaker 2: It seems every possible Ouki is a superper computer.
Speaker 1: I get, but it's just like it's and he should
but he should show him literally like visuals of Ethan's mind.
And like again, this movie at times is obsessed with
like destruction porn because they show you the world like, oh,
here's here's what it looks like, don't get shows you
the nuclear stuff like as sorry, I just saw this
all behind her last year. And that's a movie where
that is three hours. That's where if anyone wants to
pick oh you just don't like the conversations movie, No,
Albenheimer's three hours just people talking that's some of the
most gripping movie that I've ever seen, the hour and
a half here where it's like a lot of jargon.
It's like there's just so much stuff they don't need
to talk about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like last I could just keep complaining about
the entity and it being a villain. But like the
last thing I'll say on it is just the idea
of it being a godlike being that's seen every single
outcome and it's like, cavile, how do we win? Like seriously,
like like it controls it, baby, we put in barricades
to make an entertaining movie, Like we've already talked about
with the countdown, Like technically it doesn't really like it
doesn't need all of the arsenal of the war of
the world to bring it down. What's the stats. It's
like we have enough nukes in the whole world to
like just blow up the world like sixty thousand times,
whatever the fuck it is. But like it just it's
just so ridiculous how powerful this thing is to get
to a point that we beat it. I feel like
that's unbelievable with how they set up this character or
the character being the entity of it just being this
godlike thing.
Speaker 1: Let's stay because we haven't done what we've been ranting.
Let's take an ad break and we'll be right back
for more entity talk. I imagine. All right, we're back,
and here's the thing. So let's say the entity succeeds
right newkes the entire planet. What does it do after
people are dead? They can't repopulate.
Speaker 2: It waits for the planet of the Apes to take over,
and then that that'll be its new citizens essentially, right,
because it's in the bunker for like thousands of years,
they say.
Speaker 1: Charleston has some lands and he has to deal.
Speaker 3: With It's the same thing as Age of Ultron, right,
like just cleanse the earth and then start from scratch.
Like even they'll say it in here, like there will
be survivors. Is not going to be every human that dies,
and those survivors will come out, and the entity is
saying to need them.
Speaker 2: They say that, but when the bombs come, and it's
only the entity that's in that bunker that can survive
for thousands of years, even if a couple of humans
make it through there, Like, no, they're not sitting in
that bunker and reproducing for thousands of years with the
entity Like there's no way. Uh, it's I feel like
that's just a plot hole honestly in the movie that
they set up that it has these loyal followers that
will be obeying the entity moving forward. It's gonna be
like radiation roaches ruling the planet afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's I don't care. We're doing the rankings
last or next week, but like, yeah, dead fucking last
the entity for villains like like Miles, Miles, like, I'll
take I've had sewn Archer fucking come back and catch
some more scarves before I had.
Speaker 2: The entity again, you know, like is that the mission
impossible to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like fuck, at least he could do the masks
and he was some fun and whatnot, like have him
flirt with Haley at well, I don't know, but it's
just like, yeah, I'm the entity. Is just what makes
it so tough to rewatch these two in particular for me,
and that's the thing. We're deadreckoning again. Dead Reckoning for
me is far superior than this one. But this because
so heavy entity and everything is entity. It's just they
doubt and here stupid me. Hey, when we got that
first teaser and the entity, it was barely and I
was like, oh, maybe, Yeah, it starts with him destroying
the entity in act one and then the it's just
Gabriel or something else, right, But no, the entity is
there the whole time, and uh, yeah, it's it's brutal,
but at least something we can talk about. It's not brutal.
We're kind of jumping all over, but we'll go to
the uh the submarine scene because one, I just want
to say this before I forget. This is where I
felt like I was watching a superhero movie at the
very end, because I was like, there's no fucking way
Ethan Hunt would ever survive this, not in a million,
Like how far down he is, how cold, Like it's
not just even that far down, he'd still die. But
this is freezing like arctic water. This is water that
like if you fall down in and close for a
few minutes, you're gonna be fucking dead. This man is naked,
he is well, I guess he's not rock hard because's
ice cold, but he is fucking he's shriveled up. Yeah,
he probably is rock I fucking love almost time. But
like he is in this water like other than bass
for multiple minutes and of course they revive them. And
I could just see, like, hey, can you see a
scene where Haley at just fucking cuddles me for five minutes.
Speaker 2: Before that when she's doing CPR and the camera is
like dead center on her cleavage.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because it's just.
Speaker 2: At that so hard. I'm just.
Speaker 1: Is it dies? It fell us? It just felt like
somebody like I don't think it is, but just felt like, man,
how could we get get Haley? I would rub her
boobs all over me? And that's what this decression chamber
when you.
Speaker 4: Like and you got fucking am I guy's wife just
watching touching herself many I.
Speaker 2: Like to watch He's like winking at him at the.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been if that was a great reveal that
Luther is still alive. Ethan turned over and he was
like in Luther's b goes teething, holding.
Speaker 2: Up, he's picturing Haley. I will like kissing him in
the water.
Speaker 1: Sick mouth your taste anyway, So again I'm of two
minds where when he flows the ice and they flip it,
fantastic shot. It all visually looks good in my mind,
I'm like I can't. This for me was jumping the strike.
I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know that was Haley Well. I thought
that it was his wife Julie from the trailers.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I actually do know who it was. I
thought it could have been fergus Of, but no, it
was Hailey Apwell because that's his ultimate love who he
doesn't even end up win the movie. They just give
another head on and they fucking pimp off, like see
you next time. It's like, all right, but yeah, this
sub scene and also too big. Shout out to the
score here, because I think the scene would work out
great by itself still, but this is something to me
movie making one on one where a score enhances the scene.
Miles and Miles, because this felt like and it does
shouldn't at all. This felt like a horror movie. When
this scene was happening, you think, fucking an alien. Her
prayer is gonna pup like the way they're framing, and
it's literally just like the fear is water and inclose
of me Kirk talk about a couple of casks or whatever.
It's like that Anthhobi or whatever where I'm fucking scared
of not claustrophobia, but the idea of tight spaces. When
he opened up that fucking hatch and it was like
narrow like that and.
Speaker 2: Went to his point of view and I'm like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1: And then later on when he's in there and the
waters gets me, I'm like my skin was crawling. I
was like, fuck, And is this is Shay like claustrophobic.
Speaker 2: Because she wasn't watching, Yeah, she said that scene was
was totally freaking out. And I said, for me, like,
I feel like I was getting more of that effect
from the plane sequence, just like some of the aerial shots.
I was getting a little who But she She's like,
I'll die fallen, free falling, But to just be trapped
in like a water like that, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: If you have to ask me, hey, how are you
gonna die? Do you want to die the way that
Gabriel's friend does or he gets knocked out and then
he gets and he's probably like mid wakes up and
just like he's falling, Or do you want to dive
by being like crushed by missiles or water in a
small little pipe like no, oh no, that's a clause. Fuck,
I gotta find it. But anyways, Uh yeah, ten ten
out of ten sequence that was just outstanding. Uh what
the fuck? Oh yeah, I could never say this. I
don't think we ever figured it out. It's not anthobia.
Hang on, I'll put in the comments here. I got it.
But what is this the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that we're laughing about that name Cliff Throat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it's like a sexual thing. But
it's like, yeah, and that's where this was. And man,
just the sub moving all the time, and I would
that's something that I can't see behind the scenes of.
I know they probably built this set, but like the
way it turns in the water dynamics and even then too,
it's like these things falling from the roof. Oh yeah,
those are fucking like missiles that you don't know, could
maybe like explode like this was. And this was something
where I was like, man, they need to make a
mission impossible video game because this felt like, uh, this
felt like in a video game you got everyone talked
about like, oh the fucking sub level. This is this
Like no, no, it's like outstanding all round. You know.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of Inception when they're in the hallway. Uh.
Joseph Gordon Levitt and like it's just rotating. Then you
see behind the scenes and they actually like had like
it rotating, and yeah, it looked like that's exactly what
they had going on. And I feel like in those moments,
I can sometimes get a little like, well, I'm getting
a little nauseous, but like it just worked. It just
visually looked really good. I'm sure it was incredible in
imax and A one hundred percent agree with you. I
think this is one where like the score was just
adding so much tension and like I was sweaty palms,
Like I was so nervous. I knew he was gonna
make it out. But like even when he gets out
of the sub and you just have the big fucking
Russian thing looking at him, I'm like, oh my god,
like that that's terrifying him itself. Like that feels like
a sea monster just there. And then like he gets
close to the the fucking spinner thing. Wow, I don't
my burn propeller. Yeah, Like like he's like close to
the edge and I'm like we're like we're like halfway
through this movie. I know he's living, but still I
was like, man, like this is just building to the
intensity and that's not even that's not even when he
gets to the sub let like you know, let alone
and then all the all the other factors in play there.
So I think that was Yeah, we saw it in
the trailers. I was excited for that moment, but they
knocked out of the park pretty much from like the like,
I just really like the sequence, even from when he
jumps out of the helicopter, uh and then like meets
the sub crew.
Speaker 1: You like the whole sequence.
Speaker 2: I laughed so hard in that moment I did. I
did like it like it's it's chucky, it's chucky. I
was chuck a lan the way it happens when he
just shocks him there, but just like yeah, when he's
in the water and then they just fucking appear all
around him, It's like it's like when Bruce Wayne goes
to meet like the the League of Shadows of sort
of thing. I'm like, oh, these are just the water
people ready to claim the hobby. But it's like, okay,
it's the Special Forces, like they're they're they're they're taking
them in there. I didn't like the assassination attempt. I
don't think that was necessarily uh necessary.
Speaker 3: What does Tom Cruise say again, like you watch too
many YouTube videos, Matt or whatever.
Speaker 1: He says, you're on the internet too much. It's like,
oh boy, again, this is a movie that's clearly dead serious.
It's like, this is not the time. And yeah, again
they make it that I'm I know Kirkle is not
because he's in like the Man Lauren episode. I'm a
big fan of Katie O'Brien. I was bummed she wasn't
in this more she's a jack chicked in the sub Yeah.
Speaker 2: I really liked her in this. I was wanting more
of her for sure.
Speaker 1: Again watch at some point. God, I can't remember the
movie she did with her and Kristen Stewart. I'll find
it before it ends here. But she's fantastic in that
she's a bodybuilder and like it's like a romance but
it's like a crime words.
Speaker 2: Like really good Season two Last of Us. Now, Kate
is great. You know, she's a great actress.
Speaker 1: Especially in the movie. I'm going to figure out what
it is. But like, like I said, like there is
Adri o'drana from uh what's her name? And or but
this lady's just on top of my list too. As
far as being oh love lies bleeding her long hair.
I'm like, that's my fucking Diana Prince, like I want
as the next one woman. For some reason though, I'm
sure it was like a I don't know the tom
Cruise note or inner note or whoever decides to make
Ethan hunt cool just to me want and made sure like,
oh this girl would like to fuck Ethan. You know,
like all like so much.
Speaker 2: Like winking at each other. Yeah, it was strange when
you're like, oh, why do we need gases like classified?
They're like, oh, yeah, right, we're all secret. We all
even the look.
Speaker 1: They give it each other at the end, they like,
look at it and don't lose my suit, like she
may as well just gave him a cock slap, like
come on boy. Like, but again, I like her a lot.
I want to be one of them, want to be
more stuff go on Ethan. But the only thing I
would to cut is I I would take the taser.
I thought the taser was a little comedic. I would
just cut the black and then you go, oh, what's
going on the taser? I don't know why, because we
all ad it just something. I just thought it was
we just squading it was just the timing. But I
guess I don't know, makes you think.
Speaker 2: It's the Russians for a second they just kill him. Yeah, Yeah,
I didn't love the assassination attempt. Is I get entities everywhere,
but in that moment, it seemed a little bit unnecessary
and like.
Speaker 1: Cruiser Jacks got it. Sorry Cruiserknjack.
Speaker 2: Though, I was gonna say, man, like sixty three years old,
whatever's at Like he was looking good in his undies,
just like muscle definition every like, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why the scene is in there. He's like, I
look fucking good, and we're gonna show it off. We're
gonna he's gonna wrestle me in my boxers, you know.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna do rudo dick grabs. You know, We're
going full butt ass.
Speaker 1: He's in the tank later and I'm here too.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Actually reminded the whole team.
Speaker 1: Imagine the whole team was in the compression tank with them.
You know, we're team Ethan anyways.
Speaker 2: And Big Raims and there just him.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: The one sequence that I I I, well, I guess
it's not the only sequence, but a moment in the
sub that was really bothering me is when he gets
in there, and you know, I work with electricity a lot.
It's dangerous. One of the probably most dangerous things electricity
is water. And he is waist deep and he's like
opening up like a main feeder box. I can see
like the bare massive warnings. It shows the bot exactly exactly,
and like he's grabbing like the lugs that are just exposed,
which would be live and it's like in water. He
just plugs it in the device. It's like fully charged.
I'm like, okay, military military tech, yeah, yeah, exactly was
It's like, well, maybe they just have some submarine tech,
you know, to make the're probably coded and rubber, and
it's like, am I really gonna pick this apart?
Speaker 1: When like why is the warning if it's coded and rubber,
why is the warning there.
Speaker 2: Rubber but not the part that's making the connection, Like
come on, come.
Speaker 1: On, there's it's electric bolt with a man dying due
to electricity. It's like, be careful past it.
Speaker 2: It's movie magic. But for me, that was like to
jump the Shark moment, but but like the one real
jump the Shark suicide is the moment when when he
takes off the suit and everything and again like you said, like, yeah, frostbite, hypotherma,
his muscles should be like contracting. All the things that
they told them would be happening is just not happening
at all in these moments. And they're like, whatever you do.
And I learned this, which I didn't know this was
the thing, but when you're scuba diving, you have to
breathe normally because if you hold your breath, your lungs
will literally explode from the decompression. And he's like just
just getting maybe to play Devil's Advocate to myself is like, well,
he drowns, so the water goes into his lungs. So
the difference maybe it doesn't really.
Speaker 1: Like maybe I just thought he drowned like way too
Like he drowned it like right at the top of
the ice already. Like that's the thing where it's like
he was he was far down that he needed a
fucking jet pack to get him that down low. But no,
Ethan Hunt with his legs and arms can swim back
up and like it's not like the other movies, like
remember in Rogue Nation where he does that watery stunt,
But that's like he's like getting ready. He's working on
his breathing. He's been in the sub he's moving right.
This man's probably exhausted, but nah, he can hold his
second breath. And I don't know, maybe I'm I don't
think I'm being out of the realm, possibly thousands of
feet above like from where the sub.
Speaker 3: Remember he's pulled down by a few hundred feet more too, yes.
Speaker 2: Which is if they said the suit can go down
like three hundred, but they've never tested it past that point,
which is well past that point because that's where the
submarine is. And like I knew he was gonna take
the mask off at some point, but I'm like, hey,
maybe halfway up and then no, no, like right light
and like the subs taking him further down than where
it initially.
Speaker 1: He was great moment though, when he thinks he's gone
and catches the bag. I thought that was very classic.
Am I like, oh you thought he completely mission? No,
he's going and just that faces Tom cruise and again
it's all as long as you like, that's where you've
just throw out the lodging of that stuff. It's like
if this is Captain America, You're like, oh, this is
completely fine because he's like super soldier shit, right, But
this is Ethan sixty year old Ethan Hunt, who would
have massive ct too at this point, like all this stuff.
But like, nah, he's he's fine. It's like it's like
the top even Tom gun right, that's the thing where
it's like in real life he would not be a
lot like being that age. That would none of us
would happen. He couldn't do any of this. But you know,
Ethan Hunt, Maverick, Tom Cruise, it just defies all fucking
bodily fluids and whatnot. So uh, Taylor, anything on the submarine.
Speaker 3: Before move them, Like you guys already highlighted. It's a
fantastic sequence. I absolutely loved it, and I like how
when it starts off, when he jumps off the off
spray into the ocean, it just feels like the opposite
of claustrophobic. It feels open and I like it just exposed.
He's just there, the waves are really really big, and
it's like, man, well, what the fuck are you supposed
to do now? This feels like this is not the
situation you want to be in because like it's just
it's just so it's so much open mass here, open volume,
and yeah, just the way though, those die just pop
up behind him. He doesn't even notice, and then it
cuts to the change of scenes and there's another one
behind him, and then they tased him. I like that.
But yeah, everything on the submarine I enjoyed. I liked
this captain guy working with him, like you want to
poke the bear, I'm the guy you want to poke
it with, or whatever something like that. Yeah. I really
really like their their friendship. That was a lot of fun.
But after that and him getting suited up and the
assassination attempt, yeah I didn't didn't like that that much.
But yeah, him getting suited up and then being out there,
holy shit, it was just it was super super tense
him going through that submarine and just going through all
the different latches or like hallways and stuff, and then
seeing like the frozen dead bodies and the corpses. Got
another recap there of the crew in a scene, and
then yeah, him just you know, okay, like the time
is ticking now because this thing is starting to roll.
He's got to get the Podkova gets it that that'd
be a drinking game every time. Fucking Gabriel says Punkov.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking me, come to me.
Speaker 3: It will come to me. But yeah, when you guys
already highlighted it. When he gets out and he has
to go through that tube and he's just he's almost
naked and submarine catches on his mask and I don't know,
I don't know how he survives. It baffles me, really
really baffles me. But it was just such a fantastic scene.
Fantastic scene stuff with submarines. You don't really get a
lot of that and like submarine action, but it's it
is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could ever do that life.
That's just crazy. You're just underneath Antarctica wherever the fuck
they are classified all the time, just breathing air that
you recycle for farts and stuff, and people are smelling
and sweaty.
Speaker 1: But do you mean the life of like a spy?
Speaker 2: That too is probably horrible? Submarine submarine like, yeah, I'm
not really claustrophobic, but like just being trapped in there
with that loll like, I feel like I would just
go stir crazy.
Speaker 1: But could you do the spy life?
Speaker 2: No, I would be bad.
Speaker 1: I could have at one point, I could have high
school and yeah, if I would have got caught some
some sex toys like you've heard I m F and
like I guess, so like.
Speaker 6: Here's your mission, Bildo, yeah's to the clubs.
Speaker 1: I mean this one was just for you. But uh yeah, yeah,
I think before meeting like a long term girlfriend and kids.
Absolutely no, I can't leave now, but before yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I have some spisms in me
like Cloak and Digger a little bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, driving would have been an issue for me.
It's like, well I need a driver, I need that
going on. So before I forget when again, Jerem Renner,
I was disappointed. I thought we might get a scene
then happen. You know, he would have been perfect obviously
they had it, would have wrote some stuff whatever, if
you could have been a mission, would have been perfect
to be in the present.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, definitely. I didn't really think of him
too much on like during the film, but in hindsight now,
especially this being the final chapter and he wasn't there
for the whole franchise, but I think he's like big
character for his use he.
Speaker 1: Carried over which a lot of those team members didn't right,
like like before Rebecca we had then and then Simon
Pegg and then him right now, Haley Atwill she carried
over an even Palm, but like that's just now in the.
Speaker 2: Past two movies though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's just brand now, right, he was
just too. But to me, it's like a little bit
different because like Palm and Haley were part of originally
a part one, Part two, right they changed it, Like
to me, that was dedicated where Brandt he continued on
in vain. So it's like, yeah, I was hoping to
be a little something, but no, we got especially.
Speaker 2: That Brandt's role evolved amongst the movies, right, like it's
it's okay, our crew changes, but like he's he's like
a higher up now, like he's he would be in
that situation, especially that he's dealt with imm, he's dealt
with Ethan, he's dealt with the CIA and all these
other factors. So yeah, that is U I don't know,
maybe that just was something. Was that something that they
just never planned to have. I mean, he wasn't in
Part one, but.
Speaker 1: Remember he was planning to take over from Tom Cruise
and that didn't happen, so I well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I'm just like also with his
his tragic access, that was the factor that they're maybe
thinking about bringing him back, but obviously circumstances didn't allow
him to do that. Yeah, just start Patreon's.
Speaker 1: Glad to have him as a Patreon for Yes, you
can join after nine any time. Jeremy Wren will have
you on there.
Speaker 2: You know, last thing I wanted to say on the
submarine thing was the captain who I really liked. I
thought he was really fun. I was expected to just
be like a hard ass all through it. I kind
of liked this little little trickster side that he had
to him, you know, when he's like, yeah, you poked
the bear. Thought this was the president's son. Because the
reason why I thought it was we have a moment
between Angela Vesset and she's like looking at a photo
of her son who in the moment I thought it
was her husband. I'm like, oh, yeah, she's she's got
a hot piece of ass here. This this is young
in here. But no, it was revealed it was just
your son. And she meant mentions that likestol President.
Speaker 6: Just ask everyone, Madam President, you have your son your.
Speaker 1: Sister Ethan foxist all the time. You know, I don't, Luther,
It's not a thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like we get we got her. Look at
the photo. Someone asked, like, have you seen your son lately?
It's like a thing. And then it's revealed that she
knows what's the actress's name, Hannah, Hannah something. She's like
the captain of the George. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another I liked her. But another thing, you're just cut
from the movie completely. I know what this date means.
Just got him on the just get him on the sub.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind that because if it's not you know,
but I liked it because it's like this date was
significant because we lost someone because the higher ups were
not willing to like look through the and like that's
what they're doing right now, essentially to the.
Speaker 1: Sub people, Ethan, why should we let you on the sub? Well,
here's his envelope.
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's go to the United States. Like this
is her seal. She's the one that sends Ethan. I agree,
give it in this give it.
Speaker 1: No just even Ethan, just tie all the one that
subplot of like from one to another. It's just like,
why do we need to find a transport to get
him to the sub that's transporting him to the other sub?
Like too much transport?
Speaker 2: Well, fair enough. I know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's too much transports. I mean it's
it's a lot of it's a lot of scenes, but
I mean the submarine, Like, would you just skip the
whole boat scene and just put him on the submarine.
Speaker 1: I'd put him on the scene when he's talking with
the people, like the Russias is a tournament. Start him
on when he's on the plane. Start him there. He's
already good to go like that. You don't need any
of the stuff.
Speaker 2: Fair enough her.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it adds much. Like sure, she's
in the monotage smiling. We did it. Good call in
the sun. I actually know, not a joke because my
impression I thought, for second, he's gonna be Luther kid,
because they just did the Jim Phelps things. I was like, fuck,
and he's gonna be like, oh, you knew my dad
and I thought. But what I thought though that they
were going to give him the scene where he has
to tell this guy's like his dad's dead, he doesn't know,
which I thought actually would have been like a fantastic
scene of he. I wouldn't have wanted the idea of
alwas Luthor's son, but I thought about that. Imagine this
guy thinks, oh, yeah, you're Ethan Hunt. You're friends with
my dad, and he's up like that idea of because yeah,
because already Ethan feels guilty about it. Oh they're going
to tie it all together. That fuck. I had to
tell this guy's son that he died because of me.
But no, he's just mister mister.
Speaker 2: Dad, like like like get back to what I was
saying though, is like I like, I thought the captain
of the sub was Angela Bessett's like the president's son.
And then she she clearly knows the leader, or not
the leader, the captain of the of the the like
they have of the bush. Yeah, that was the that
was the boat.
Speaker 1: Same George Bush, captain of bush Man.
Speaker 2: So they know each other through like personal ties. Like
clearly this note is referencing this event, which is that
like a significant date in the mission. Impossible because nineteen
ninety six, I know that's when the first movie came out.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh well yeah, I guess it could be something
like that. I think you meant like in the story.
I don't remember anything.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a fun little easter egg,
like that's when the first movie came out just because
I knew it came out in nineteenety.
Speaker 1: Six, but Gabriel met the antity.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like they know each other, and then she
gives Hunt a necklace that he gives to the cap
of the boat. And then I'm like, oh, it's because
they know each other. And then she knows her son,
so then her son would know that the necklace means this,
and I'm like, Okay, that makes sense. This is why
we're all working together. All Nope, Nope, not at all.
And then I thought the whole movie that was her son.
And then we get to the end and she comes
off Air Force one and there's just that random man
who just stands out and like it's a nice little scene.
I guess, you know, yeah, remind you of what's important
in life. But it's just like this is such a
weird tie, Like, in hindsight, this isn't necessary at all.
Speaker 1: No. At first too, I thought they were insinuating that
she chose to put on the town and that her
son was in because because she because she makes the
city choice. And then that lady walks up, so though
you want to call your son and she goes what
would I even say to him. So I'm like, oh
my god, she like everybody, but like I'm like, oh
my gosh, she's bombing your son's city. But no, that's
not what happened, just because obviously he's a soldier and
maybe wouldn't get it. But like, I think that's the
last thing you're saying, is Mom, why'd you buy that?
Like bomb the city? It's like the entire world's going
up in nukes. Like, I don't think i'd be grilled
my mom's she's fucking in a room for three days.
I'm not gonna grill her on it. And they like
whatever she had to do, she had to fucking do
in that room, you know, like that that's a situation
like your World War three and AI's taking over your world,
and be like, well, mom, why'd you do this? It's like, well,
you know, like I get, but you know, she made
the right choice, right, tried tuning off the nukes, decided
to go Gogan's violence, and they sent him as you can.
I hope the other countries would do the same, right
that everyone would just liked it.
Speaker 2: It's the Dark Knight thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, prisoners decide, no, we're not killing the innocence instance, I had, No,
we're not killing the prisoners. We're all fucking animals. We're
not you know, I won't live in the entities world,
you know, So I get it. Yeah, like nice enough
scene to show she the sun, but it's just very
you know, very and and like again, I like the
present stuff enough. But if you're to tell me, hey, trash,
I got a version without it, I wouldn't be like, oh,
I'm really missing that.
Speaker 2: Like it's like it I liked it in intense, like
the tension of especially when they're in that room, the
deaf con encounter or just going down and then like
she even has that moment when it's like I think
it's when she makes her decision, like yeah, I gave
it to Hunt, like we're gonna just let him do
his mission. They're all like, you're fucking idiot, blah blah blah,
and then they all kind of depart, and then she's
chatting with that one lady and it's like, yeah, it's
gonna come to a moment when they they like snap
or like whatever the hell they like. She says like
they're gonna disagree with me, and like that moment kind
of happens. I I thought it was gonna be niker
off from him just being I was so worried that
he was just oh, yeah, well I'm gonna push the button,
and he just like starts capping people hits the button.
So I am glad it went the route that it did.
But I did like those presidents see. And it was
also just great to have Angela Bassett like in this
role again, because if she would have just been a
CIA person like dealing with the president, I wouldn't have
been as impactful. Like I like that we kind of
had her as an antagonist. That would have been fun maybe,
but I know, I liked her presence in Fallout being
kind of an antagonist type character, you know, for for
what that situation's an evil person, but just for how
that movie plays out, just kind of an antagonist to our heroes.
But having her here where like she is, like she
makes a big decision, like she she saves a big
chunk of population by not hitting that button right there,
and it's just like, man, it's nice to have a
world leader that we can like really believe in and
count on, you know, take us away from the reality
of life and just the mayhem, what's actually going because
this is reality. That button's pressed on day fucking one, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, that's the sad thing.
Speaker 2: Holy nightmode on Travis.
Speaker 1: Yep, yes, I agree, Yeah, no, I agree, gets pressed
pretty quickly. But you know, we try and tell us
some of the movies, don't do it? Did you take
anymission possible? Don't do it?
Speaker 2: Random, random little note that pop my head. I want
to forget about the moment. It's just like a thought
that popped in my head. At the end, when Ethan's
getting his uh, his final words from from Luther he survived,
and like the helicopters come in and there's just like
a shot of like the like the machine gun or
just like aiming at hunts there.
Speaker 1: He is fucking light on that. Kids, you're just gonna
be like do it.
Speaker 2: And then just like Trace arounds worried that Jim Phelps
Junior was gonna actually cap him there like I actually
belle because like the way Kittrids looks at him, it's
like we're tying off loose ends here, like like put
it into it. I'm like, please do not. And Ethan
Hunter if it gets murdered by Jim Phelps's a strange son.
Speaker 1: I'll say my score is low. It's not a fail.
But if they had just Jim Felt's son suit like
assassinate him in the field, fail right there, as.
Speaker 2: Luther's voice is like in our heads, like I knew
you had a brother.
Speaker 1: Who's the mad Ethan? You always survive? Fuck Jim Phelps.
Speaker 6: He was a piece of sh remember that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always hated Jim Phelps junior bitch. I'm gonna
kill Luther?
Speaker 3: Where is he?
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's take when my be your last
ad break and then we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we are back. Okay, what have we not talked about?
I think I said about it, but like I saw
Maddy in the comments say that too about where was it? Plain?
Sequins looked awesome. Visual The son is a ten to ten,
but definitely some goody moments. Gay bro Oh yeah yeah,
stun no problem. I think it maybe went a little long.
I think there is some fun shots, Like now I
know why they do screen screen or stuff in the movies,
because it's a shot up and he's like, yeah, like
it's this dead music's playing dead. Seriously, it looks like
he's a vacuum upgin his face like look good me, mom.
Like there's a few moments e you know, cut that
it kind of kills attention, but no great cool stuff
like obviously very impressive what Cruise and Company can do,
and it looks for me, I liked this better than
because I know people love the fault one, the fallout.
One of my problem with it sometimes is they switch
that camera where it looked like go pro ish and
I was like, ah, this takes me out of it
where this was all to me cinematic looks. So I
liked this better of him hanging on there and there's
some fun stuff. But like I said, I think he
did maybe a few too many rotations. I would have
cut this a little bit. But if it's you know,
the last one, then sure. But yeah, great sequence. Another
reason to pay to see this movie on the big
screen if that's what you're if you're wanting, if big
action stunts, then definitely this gets you in the door
for some of you should see.
Speaker 2: Like when these scenes are happening, whether it's the plane
or the submarine or just other action chase sequence even
from Dead Wrecking Part one, like when him and Haley
are in the cars handcuffed together, Like I just forget
about the entity, you know, it's just like fuck, Like
this is why I come to these movies, Like they're
just what they're able to. Like, I mean, they've been
doing this for a while now, like especially Tom Cruise
doing all these these stunts and crazy feats. It's just like, yeah,
this is this is impressive and they definitely pulled those
sequences off. And then it's a nice little takeaway from
the entity chose us. See, everything that we're doing is
chosen by the entity, and we have to do the
complete opposite of what.
Speaker 1: If we want to wants us to choose us and.
Speaker 2: Each other, because that's not what it wants us to do.
Speaker 1: What if he wants us to futhan.
Speaker 6: Let's circle back to the sister. What if it's last
was fortunate to me? I think it's a you thing, Luther.
I don't think the entity wants me to fuck you known.
I think he does.
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, paid enough for this ship. I'm sucking at
it here taking care of this guy in a fucking
doomsday room. Well, and now my parents are gonna know
I'm just dead by Gabriel on the ground.
Speaker 2: Fuck, Oh you remind me the Russian. Uh, I don't
know what I would call it, the the invasion that
the Russian soldiers had on the island when it's like
revealed that they were there. I I kind of liked
that just element to it that the Russians are like
right because they because they like hit home that like
everyone's kind of looking for this, like they they kind
of know a little bit about it. I assumed it
would have just been the Russians and our heroes kind
of that know about this.
Speaker 1: Russians close.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of submarines that they show, like
on that that that monitor thing, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: I'm not a bunch of IF teams in different countries
that are failures.
Speaker 2: They chosen one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron, they didn't Aaron Munt and like, but they
didn't find the entity. They failed their mission, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but they did have another key, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I liked all that. I liked
that Russian too, and especially just like the back and
forth on like would you It's like we all will
let you go. It's like would you believe that from
if you're in my position, just like absolutely not. And
then he says the exact same thing to them, and
it's very true, right, Like from from their perspective, they
were told like they're product of their environment. Their government
told them that we like world's gonna end if we
don't get that device right, and that would be everyone,
all the players at play there. And I did like
that it wasn't just a Kumbaya moment. It's like we're
all humans and let's just work together to shut down.
Like I am glad that it took them to like
take them out. I really like that scene when Palm
is looking at Degas whatever the fuck that guy's name is,
and like he can tell what she's like, like Hntena
and he's just like, no, don't do it. She's like
we're doing it. We're like like first chance we get
where we're attacking these guys and he's like, fuck, I
just got to do it. So I like those moments
and just so everything with the two innocent people. Also,
you know the guy from from Mission Possible one that
we kind of already talked about.
Speaker 1: His wife was good too. I like she is good
comedic timing and stuff with them explaining the snow stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think that went a little bit too long.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Yeah, but yeah, sorry for the
Russian team. Just gotta go back to work, you know.
So what he boss Ethan hunting his team again.
Speaker 2: And they're still just chasing that that US submarine right
on their ass. They don't know that we're right behind them. Guys,
they're taking us right to the entity. Why did they
you turn sharply right there before?
Speaker 1: I forget? This is what we talk about nonspoils. Me
and Taylor had a laugh where okay, so Ethan hunt
his team. They get down to the cave to spring
a trap on Gabriel. Of course, Gabriel's waiting to spring
his own trap. That's when he was rock Card being
like fucking won Ethan and like he's like, this guy's
got to kill switching all this stuff. Then Kittridge and
fucking Jim Feld's junior roll up and they have their
crew people and it's like, oh, we've we've you know,
outsmarted you both, right, And I thought, oh, this is interesting,
Like Kittridge has outsmarted like he's got Cruise there and
he's got Gabriel there. It's like, wow, this I didn't
think Kittridge and his team could pull us off. But
then like as he's walking back, more monologuing, just multiple
people up in the cliffs just getting assassinated, and I
know they do like they cover their mouth, but it's like,
no one's watching this, Like this is like death Cone, Like, hey,
he keep your fucking eyes everywhere. Their guys are dropping
left right, and there's not you're telling me, there's not
any sound. Just it's dead, like there's no audio mixing
in these scenes or editing. It's just like dead quietfi
and he kills gun, throws them down, and then like
Gabriel's team takes over again. So it just felt kind
of comedic to me of oh, we're here now, and
then these guys are like on mute mode and it's
just no one's noticing this, because like when Cruise and
Gabriel were talking, it seems like pretty like like in
your peripheral view, you would he probably some guy taking
out like they it wasn't much blocking them. So the
fact that all these guards that Kittchricks brought in were
just getting silently taken out by Assassin that I was laughing.
He's like, I don't this is not believable. As much
as there's so much stuff like this is weird to
make it happen. But and then kittridgs again odd character
where he's just literally, oh, Ethan's a pussy. He want
of his friends die. He's a bit She's gonna tell
us the truth. At the end, they're like head nodding,
and it's like he just goes like Hunters like bitches.
His back way to the coptor would be on the
IMF team again, It's like, I fucking maybe Kitchricks should
have caught a bolt or something here, you know, like
he's such against Hunt. It's just like that there's no
payoff there for like either you make him catch a
bullet or you make Kittridge find like fuck, I'm completely wrong,
I'm gonna do something to helpless team. He doesn't. He
just oh yeah, thanks for that drive. Let's get on
the copter. Wait until next time when we disagree and
put the world at risk, you know.
Speaker 2: Especially that the stakes are so high, you know, like
like like the whole thing in this movie is like
Hunt's trying to be like we're not like we're all
on the same time here, like it's all of us
against the entity. And then you have kittens, Like I
know you bonded the Kreml like it just seems like
he's still like has this that like I know you're dirty.
I know you're actually dirty. Uh And it's just it's
so like cheap. I feel like like it's not a
good payoff, Like why even bring this guy back to
have these moments like you should you should just have
a new actor playing this person who's or Jim Phelps's son,
like like have him being this be this person's like
we can't fucking trust him. He killed my father, put
it all on him, Like I would believe that a
little bit more.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's all declined. Yeah, like we have the files, we
know exactly what happened. So yeah, I completely agree with you.
I think the Kittridge like initially from because he came
back and did Breaking Part one like that was the
first time. Yeah right, yeah, so it's like, oh, this
is a big moment, like we're getting this character that's
been gone since the first film. Not worth the payoff.
Where we are now and how it ended, you don't
even like resolve anything right, Like it's just he walks away,
we don't see him again.
Speaker 1: But that's I even remember am I one though, like
he eventually like helps Hunt like clear his name. He's like, oh,
like because there's that Remember there's like a call and
then like it's John voice being recorded and then like
the speaker speaks up its kitchens being like he says
it like oh I hear you loud and clear, and
that's that's to be like, oh they call like Ethan
Hunt has patched kitchens. I'm f in Joan void, You're
fucked Like they they overheard you saying this stuff. So
it's like the one time he was dirty and Ethan
proved himself clean, he's still like, oh, maybe maybe he
is dirty. It's just like they didn't even go that
far to redeem kitchen. So yeah, weird, weird scenario again
with that.
Speaker 2: So for sure, last thing else, I think one of
the last things I said is I kind of wished
Simon Pegg and Ethan had like a moment to kind
of just talk just like that, like those were like,
well now that Luther is gone, like they just had
the most history amongst each other. So it to me
it was a little bit unsatisfying that he went the
same way that like someone like Degas or Palm even
Grace right, like these are new characters and like Benji,
like like it's almost like that they're all in the
same caliber where I feel like Benji and Ethan are
just so much more like tight knit compared to everyone else,
even though they are still a team. So to me,
I think I wanted a little bit more of a
sit down, especially if this is supposed to be Again
I don't believe so, but if this is supposed to
be the final moment, I kind of wanted them to have.
Was it Roade Nation or ghost proto? I think it
was ghost protocol when at the end of the film,
like they're all sitting like what do we do next?
Like what's our mission? And then so I yeah, I
think personally I would have wanted the final goodbye to
be a little bit like that. I mean, part of
me was even like everyone knows that Ethan saved the
day like in that war room, like he should be
getting all these medals, but also maybe not, because this
is the whole idea of the imf right. They been
dying the shadows, Uh, so I guess the whole world
shouldn't know that he was and like that's kind of
highlighted when he's just walking through the town and looking around.
Everyone's just on their day to day, not knowing that
everything was that close to uh cea scene to exist.
Speaker 1: So my way losing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1: She's like an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2: It's like, get away from the old man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you dye your hair on the fucker.
Speaker 2: He's like, die of the hairs. Shane was calming on that.
She's like, she's got he's got to stop the dyeing
his hair forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just sitting there like I should let the
antity fuck this place up. You know, he's ungrateful pastor.
It's like this version.
Speaker 2: Of Ethan Hunt is over and now it's like the villain.
It's like the Gabriel, but Ethan Hunt.
Speaker 1: He just the drive is a thing where it can spread,
so he just takes and fucking breaks it on the ground.
She goes in New York just like his smallpox, as
John Long can just yeah, it did change me.
Speaker 2: He does his Gabriel Eve laugh though, ye I won't
play it the perk angle.
Speaker 1: I think I'm out of notes. I'm sure I might
think of something, but good thing is we'll talk about
next week on after I'm sure some I'd love to
get Maddie's because I saw Maddie rate rated much higher
than I would have, four out of five, so I
was I was happy Maddie enjoyed it. But yeah, we'll
probably talk about it again. But I think directly, I think
I've said everything to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I got anything else myself.
Speaker 2: I don't have I'm probably missing something like you said,
but yeah.
Speaker 1: Next week putting your notes for next week after nine,
I'll go because I think I'm probably the lowest. I'm
it hurts me. I'm gonna go five out of ten.
I'm gonna just pass it.
Speaker 2: That's lower than Part one was.
Speaker 1: Part one is like a seven, like a seven, I
think it was. I no, it might be eight because
the letter box that was four. Because I guess. I
still think that one functions as a mission impossible with
like a not a big fan of this villain where
this is the Villains movie, it's very much because the
the Dead Reckoning is still all about like learning what
the entity is right and building up too, and then
eventually you see it's ai stuff like tons of It's
still the mission and I still you know, though he's
not much around like I like, I like that actor
plays Digos, but I don't think they gave him much
to do unfortunately, Like I think he's a like wel guy,
Palm's great. I wish they'd use her more in these. Again,
I like Haley atwell, but I like the Ilsa character
more and she was in there, and yeah, I do
like Luther being on the team more and it just
was I think maybe I want to prefer that too,
of him beyond the team and dying halfway through instead
of just like we only get him for five ten
minutes and then I will kill him, so it's like,
oh he's it's just like am I for where it's
like he's just not really that in it, where I
think it would have felt a greater loss if he's
in the mission we lose him mid mission. But uh yeah,
uh A five. I will pass it because I don't
think I could ever fail movie that I'd be like, man,
that one sequence one of the best like kind of
thrilling actions that piece I've seen. There's other sequences that
I do enjoy, but lots of mess, lots of just
like what was the reasoning for this. I would love
to hear them talk about, Hey, maybe one day I
can hear an interview and they'll convince me and Jim
Phillips Junior. But to me, that is stuff that just
brings it down, bogs it down. And that's where I
just like, if I was in that ending room, there's
so much like cut there, cut there, cut there, Like
there's so much stuff that just feels unnecessary. And like
I said, I've never thought that about a Mission Impossible
movie other than you know, maybe two, but even two
have had some fun with this one. I I don't
see the need to rewatch it anytime soon, and like
I said, if I do, it'll be submarine and on.
Like all I need to know, That's that's what I'm saying,
non spoilers. All for me I would need to know
is that Luther's dead and.
Speaker 7: Guess what they flash back to, like Luther givenen the gifts,
like oh, when it's all over this, like you could
put tune to do together even if you start some
of the marine like oh, we lost Luth and in
between movies, right, you could just say, oh, I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 1: We lost maybe lost them too. But Luthor you could
just headcam like, oh, we must have lost them. That's
really sad for Ethan now. But yeah, A five. I
just can't pass it because I think there's a lot
of bad choices, very messy, and the idea to have
lots of movies like a recap is very a recap
and tied to other movies is very odd, and it
just to me the pacing of this movie is very
very Whoever, I'd have to look who edited it. Maybe
they've edited the other Mission Possible movies before, but I
think the editing this movie was sounds mean but pretty atrocious,
and I think this movie could be you could go
up multiple points to me if you like we talked
about take off an hour forty five minutes. I think
there is, which is not something I've usually said with
Mission Impossible, even Deadreckning, which ran long. I still think
there's tons of great stuff in there, so I will
just pass this and I don't think I'll ever fail
it because there is some thrilling stuff in here. But yeah,
this was a big letdown for me as the end
of the franchise, but luckily I was I didn't think
it'd be this slow, But like, because I was not
the biggest fan of Dead Reckoning and the entity. I thought, okay,
there is a chance, uh this could not be up
to my liking, so quickly Eddie Hamilton's who edited? I
want to see if he's edited any other mission Apostle movies.
He yeah, he's edited top On, Maverick, Fallout, Kingsman, he
did Dead Reckoning, he did what else they do? Kick
Ass two? There you go to there, So he's just
been doing some more stuff now. But there's I guess
at other movies that I've seen this guy edited, and
I thought, oh, something like follow Right that I don't
love as much as you guys. But to me, there's
another one top On Maverick that to me is edited phenomenally,
that has great pace in that movie and this and
maybe this is just a situation too where you can
only you know, if you got ten pounds and they
give you a one pound bag. Maybe this editor can't
do anything. If they're like, no, we need this all
in the movie. What do you do with all these
flashbacks and all this exhibition about Yeah, yeah, big shots
on Thoma's face and make them happy, but yeah, five
out of ten just to pass? But uh not but
and I could probably selectively say it's like a bad
movie even though I'm passing it. So but had a
good time with you guys watching it, and there's some
good stuff that I'll return to. But overall, definitely a
weak point and it sucks that we're gonna end on
this one for a bit, so Tayfield.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go it's just a little
bit higher than you and probably yeah, six point five
out of ten a.
Speaker 1: Little, that's the whole point five a little, just a little.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's not doing anything that really keep me
drawn in to go back to this, aside from googling
or sorry, YouTube being a couple of the really cool
sequences that's namely just the submarine. Yeah, that one specifically
that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, CPR final Reckoning scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Golden geeks. Can I pitched the water scene? All
the submarine right now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, what Helen and she comes in.
Speaker 3: Haley, Well yeah, uh but yeah, I just I don't
think that there's enough poll here, And to be honest,
I'm excited to do our rankings episode, but I probably
put that the like Dead Reckoning over this one. I
like Dead Reckoning, but that being said, there's just there's
not enough poll here, and I've said many times tonight,
the choppiness and the way they've cut up the story
is just so messy, and they're just I feel like
they're re lying on I don't want to call it
a crutch because it's not even a crutch. They're relying
on dropping names of characters and expecting people to be like, oh,
that's not that, but it has no impact on the story.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this guy whoever, even if it's the director of christophermccory, Tom,
you gotta start working with him.
Speaker 1: That would be like, you know, we made four good
films together, your Ow Top Gun. Now we part ways,
Like whoever's idea that was? To me, that is like
a fireball offense because it's just like, yeah, Jim films Son,
Really that's the poll we're going with. That's such a
that's gonna be such an odd one as the time
goes on, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know, that's just that's not
that's not the kind of stuff you do because you
can't rely on that and you can't expect everyone to
get it. The GA like they're not gonna be giving
the rats stuff out that like, god damn. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4: Like Ray Skywalker, like, oh she's skywalking and I'm like, oh,
he's a Phillips.
Speaker 1: Now look at that. Especially, it's like such an inconsequential character.
It's not like Haley Hatwell like reveals this or fucking Benji.
It's like this guy who was like character I don't know,
Jay on the Kids, like the spread Sheet last movie,
and now he's like character cute, like he's just going
down and.
Speaker 2: He was like main Henchman last movie, and then this
one he's even like a lower role. Yeah, this is
where they give the review.
Speaker 3: It would have been better if it was a little
bit more low key, like with Fallout when Vanessa Kirby's
character she's talking and it's like, oh Max there, these
are Maxi's kids. It's super subtle. And again, I mean,
I don't think i'd even seen the first movie, so
to id of connect those dots went over my head.
But yeah, I'm not gonna be racing that we watch
this movie. And that is a shame because this is
supposed to be the like the Big Sender and yeah,
we uh we didn't really get that soap.
Speaker 1: Send it over to Kirkland and that's off here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep the consistent hop train going. I think
I'm gonna give a seven point five rating on this movie.
Even though it is egregious at times, I was still
eating up a lot of the fan service stuff. I
not all of it worked for me, clearly, but like
the one with like the computer guy from the first film,
Like I just thought that was fantastic, especially when it's
like Ethan's like introducing or like he's introducing himself to Ethans,
like I don't think we met. Like I loved all
those momentspecially just kind of a little wholesome, you know,
when he's talking about his wife, Like I probably would
still be there and think that I'm satisfied with that life, right,
Like it's just a nice yeah, just a really nice moment.
I all of the app pretty Yeah, I know. I
think all the action sequences were phenomenal. It was just
like some of the reasons why we were entering those
action sequences were questionable, if that makes any sense. But yeah,
I definitely could have been better. Like this is one
where I feel like a couple, like not even major
to like the entity we kind of have to be
the entity. You know they they started us here with
with part one. I understand why we have to have
the entity here. I've swallowed that pill. We have the entity.
But like there's a couple of small changes that I
think really could have made this movie excel. We talked
about the gym, the Jim Felt union, and like just
something that we've already mentioned with like like if we
had Ilsa here, Like I honestly I think that would
have lifted this up like a whole point in the
mom here. I love Rebecca Ferguson. I also really love
Haliat well, but just for the story purposes of what
that character means, the character of Ethan hunt.
Speaker 3: Both of them resuscitating Ethan in that scene together.
Speaker 1: On both sides. Christoph, for what if we bought Haley
Beck and Rebecca sham on hand to remember Julia from
number three? Yeah, what about and remember that model that
you shown in the last week, let's bring it back
to It's just like yeah, like ten hands, It's like
it's like a bond like opening. It's like just like
reviving Ethan.
Speaker 2: The when he wakes up, it's just being ramsed.
Speaker 1: I revived, pulling your cock. I hope that's all right.
Speaker 2: Then again name dropping.
Speaker 1: It's a tough week, you know, it's a late late
review here, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, no, I I that was that was fantastic.
Oh I remember my little shut out there when when
when he comes to the aircraft carrier for the first time,
Tom cruise on aircraft carry of course, my mind just
goes top gun and like it literally just shows a
couple of F eighteen's just going off. I'm like waiting
for danger Zone to just start playing.
Speaker 1: I said it, Taylor, they should play it there and like, so,
welcome back to Averick.
Speaker 2: It's the same night.
Speaker 1: It's the same guy.
Speaker 2: There's so many actors in this that were in uh so,
probably a couple, but the fist guy, Yeah, exactly. So
I just kind of had a kick out of that.
I'm glad I remember.
Speaker 1: Actually, is it anyone just other than the fifth guy?
Speaker 2: Uh de gooss he was?
Speaker 1: Oh is he? Yeah, he's completely forgot.
Speaker 2: What's his name? I can't remember his call sign, but
he's the one that blacks out, remember and then he
like almost died. I'm I'm like risk six percent sure
that that is the I'll.
Speaker 1: Find out, Yeah sixty eight that's not pizza bet worthy here,
Let'll be fine, We'll finally forgot Aferica's.
Speaker 2: Pretty darn sure. I would pray, I would.
Speaker 1: Craig Tarzan Davis, Holy fuck, yeah, he's coyote.
Speaker 3: You get a pizza.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't bet that. I didn't say ship.
Speaker 2: So but you know, seven point five. I think that
rating will definitely change on future viewings, just because it'll
it'll bug me a lot more.
Speaker 1: It's gonna dip. Man, then when you watch again and
you get that I'm dead reckoning.
Speaker 2: Like the first time I watched I reckon. I hated
the entity, but like I've still really hot off of
like the scenes, which this same thing.
Speaker 1: You know you don't want the rewatch. Always got that
big theater too to help those like massive set pieces
that like raise you up because then you're in the
theater like oh you like the rock like chills, like
look at this fucking airplane. Look at Tom Cruise, He's
backflipping and all.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's it. Like I said, we'll probably definitely talk
about this on After Night next week. I some people
have seen it, because I'll be curious to gather people's
opinions on this because it's definitely one that we all anticipated,
but uh a last We hope you enjoyed this review.
This was a fun run record and that's a good thing,
you know. That's why I love this podcast. That maybe
on the whole movie's a little disappointing for me, but
after talking about it, we had a good time, so
it all feels worth it. And yeah, let us know Discord, YouTube, Patreon, wherever,
Uh how you thought about the movie, and uh yeah,
we'll be back next week. I guess the next time
I hear from Us is the last of US finale,
and it will not be born