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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to your Mission impossible

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into this. So, yeah, mission possible, Final Reckoning. We're gonna

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do our nonsport. So if you haven't seen the movie,

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are waiting, whatever the reason is, we're gonna do all

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of our minor thoughts just overall is what we thought

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of the movies. Will take a little ad break, and

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then we'll come back and do full spoilers. After the break,

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you've accepted the mission and you're fully in and we

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can't hold you accountable what we're talking about. So, mister Field,

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what did you think of Final Reckoning?

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Speaker 3: This movie's messy. It's it's not it's not. There are

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sequences in this movie that I enjoy, and then there's

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other moments that are just in between that are not great.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's just too.

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Speaker 3: Choppy for a finale to to especially as a part two.

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It doesn't do a great job it kind of tying

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everything off in a bow. I'd say, well, it does that,

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it's just the bow has falling apart. You know when

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you tie your shoelace and the shoelace has come undone.

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I feel like that's what this is.

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Speaker 1: They try butter scraped over too much bread. You might say,

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I could say that, you could say that when we

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have that drop. We've used that quote like almost since

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the beginning of Geek first time. So here quickly, there

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are detail, you know, patron asking us, oh should I

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see Leelo instead? Tara, what would you say to that?

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Speaker 3: I would yes, I would say yes, yes, yes, yes.

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But you know what, they're bringing kids to this movie anyways.

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So I mean, we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Next week, person, because it's a late night and I

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think we're gonna have lots to talk about this. Stick

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tune in even if you're not gonna call in, tune

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in for After nine next week. Two great stories on

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Taylor's fucking wild ride home. That's worth We got some

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video that's worth the price of mission. And then yes,

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someone brought three to four year old to our screening,

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also worth the price, missiter. Next week after nine, there's

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gonna be some great stories talked about. But so you're

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going that, I'm I'll wait to overalls the same thinking

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to overalls, I think I know your cards lying that one,

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but finish off with your overalls for this, but you.

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Speaker 3: Taylor, sorry to interject, No, no, we're going to I

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Speaker 1: You even seen the original lelan Stitch.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the original, but the new one that.

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Speaker 2: Came out, A new one detours original that came out.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, but I just thought like you made it

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sound like we know what Lelan Stitch is like the

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live it's the cartoon, the live action, like we know

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if you've seen the movie, you know what you're getting.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a good time, That's what I'm getting. But

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a good time with this, I don't know. It's I

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had many I had many factors stacked against me here,

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one of them being so Kirklam was amazing and got

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me a large, large beverage, and I finished it in

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the first thirty minutes. Just a big mistake because at

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that forty five minute mark, I was bursting at the seams.

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we got to an ocean sequence and all I just

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and then after that, I just the feeling went away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if Shane was asking that right there, what's that smell?

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Just like just pee dripping down Taylor's.

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Speaker 2: Legs in the twitter's face is just fucking drove But

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he realized was SI.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, once once I got over that that feeling

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of numbness, then I just I wrode it out to

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the end. But it was, like I said, there were

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moments in this movie that I really did enjoy. But

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it wasn't the writing and it wasn't necessarily the story.

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world and how certain political figures would respond and act

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in these situations. I thought, man, that's just that's fucked up,

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but hey, that probably would happen. But everything that kind

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of led to this, like it just it felt messy

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you if you were to like, if you weren't paying

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full attention, you need to be paying attention, because well,

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Speaker 1: Moments more are they're just going to tell you the

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Speaker 3: Well there's moments, there's moments of recap, that's right, But

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they do different things and it's they all directly directly

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impact where we get to. After the title card drops

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and we get into that first like mission and the

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movie actually is starting, and you need to be watching

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that because it's like, Okay, well, how does all this

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characters are together. It's just I feel like that was

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at the start. It just was messy and choppy. But

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overall I had fun because I was seeing it with

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you guys, and there were moments where I was laughing

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rewatch this one. I do feel kind of bummed out briefly,

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and I know where I would definitely put it ultimately,

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but it'll it'll be interesting to break it down a

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Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I'll go because I already share it to

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my spots. Tata said, there's moments of recap. No, there's

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long sequences of recap. Not a good movie, not good

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at all. That's the first time I can say that

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about Mission Impossible. I think there's great sequences, but great

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sequences move a great movie. It does not make I

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think it's not big spoil it's in there. The fucking

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sub has some pauses. The submarine sequence in here breath

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taking outstanding, Like I know, I don't think they've ever

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made it, and obviously we'll have to see, but like,

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that's easily in my top five at least for Golden

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breath taking stuff stuff, I'm like, Wow, this is an

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incredible filmmaking all round, and this has that right. The

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score still bangs, performances are still good, you know, scope

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and half this movie is rough. I I'm not gonna

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imagine the studio be like, yeah, it's Tom Cruise, We're

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gonna do it, he says. But fuck, like this this

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freedom and director's vision and stuff. But then we just

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and then they brought on Tony Gilroy and people would say, oh,

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it's better for it. Right, this is a time where

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a half, you could take off. I don't think I'm

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being mean when I say forty five minutes of this movie.

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Kirkland asked his lady, said, hey, do you want me

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you want me to recap you on some stuff. There's

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no need to recap anybody. Someone could have never heard

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a mission impossible, And the first hour and a half

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will catch you up on every fucking single thing you

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need to know. Because Myers sports the first five met

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this is nice. The movie is just that continually for

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about an hour and a half, and it is rocky.

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There's so much and it's not convoluted as far as

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not understanding. It's just there's so much plot jargon and

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entity jargon, and just like plot threads, there's ten thousand

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There's so many choices that don't make sense. This echo

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is like Rise of Skywalker, like gross fan service stuff

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where the director was like, oh yeah, fan service, that's

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really bad for movies. It's like, then, what the fuck

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and ties to movies where it's like, this doesn't make

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the MSU. We like what they're doing. So that's where

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after Ghost Protocol we decided to change our method did this.

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I think there's great sequences, a great moment, some great

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character stuff, but they're very in between. And even the

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third act I can't even say all the third acts great.

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and me and Tarror chuckling because there's something happening in

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the mountains and you're just like, Okay, is this a

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fucking superhero movie? Is this the realistic mission possible? We're like, ah,

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it's not even that, not even that. It's with the Guards,

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I'll say it, the Guards. Remember, there's a big takeover

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and it's like, really, this is like it gets so

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passed the realm. It's like fast and furious, it's now

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too past the Roman believability. They completely jump the shark

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of that, and uh yeah, big disappointment. I wish to

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end it with Fallout. I think if I will, I

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don't think i'll ever watch this movie again. In fall

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I think I'll start from the submarine portion and go on,

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because I literally dead Reckoning ends with the last shaw

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of the submarine. I'm going to dexter machete this and

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start the movie on the submarine and see if that works.

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There's a few details that. Don't worry, they're gonna flash

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back to you if you didn't. Oh, a character died

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in the first act. Really, you're not gonna show us

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ten fucking times them talking to Ethan like guess what

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they're not with us? It's I don't understand. I really,

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I don't get it to me. I I you should

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end with fallout and we should have not maybe done

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the whole connective tissue thing. Yeah, I again, before I

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would have said Mission possible and like overle Lo, I

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would have picked Lilo over this now because this was

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way too fucking long way and I didn't have to

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pee like Tama. I got up because in the tenth scene,

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when they're giving you exposition like, hey, have you seen

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Mission Possible one? Have you seen Mission Possible three? It's like, yeah,

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I have, And I'm gonna get up now because you've

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told me three times about this plot point. Again, I

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don't I don't get this one. I really don't understand

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the choices here. So uh yeah, not to me, a

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good movie, some good stuff in there, but very head

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scratching choices. So Kirkland, maybe you're a bit more positive

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than us. We'll see for yours.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you guys made some great points. I

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think I definitely agree. This is a very messy, uh

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film where it just seemed like we had checkboxes to

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check off before we end the franchise. It's like, oh, wait,

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we're out of movies. Let's just throw them all in

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here and let's just make it a three hour film.

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full hour out of this movie and it's and it'd

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be totally fine. Yeah, we're kind of joking about it.

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When we're walking out of the theater. It's like as

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if someone like through in the YouTube recap what you

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need to know before mission Pau'sible Final Reckoning, and they

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just tacked it right into the movie. It's like when

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you start Netflix and it's like skip recap. I was

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like looking for that button at the bottom of the

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big screen, and it just it never showed up, Especially

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that we just like we literally just went through all

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these retros, So I'm like, oh my god, like I

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could have. I could have showed up at seven for

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this six fifteen showing here, and I probably still would

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have been a little bit too early to get into

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the juice. I completely agree with the uh like the

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first hour, Like yeah, I think for me it was

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the first hour. I was like, oh no, like man

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like I I it got to the point where I

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was super excited for the just to get going, like

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let's fucking go, I'm here, big scream mission pause. So

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we just went caught up on all the retros like

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this is this is hype and then it was just

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like and it just really took the wind out of

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my sails for just how much like exposition and like

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set up and like they I feel like they kind

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of hide the entity in a lot of the marketing,

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which is probably smart. In the in the last trailer,

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that's when you like see him wearing like the suit

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and everything, and it's like, Okay, I know this is

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still an entity movie. I feel like I was playing

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fool to myself. I'm like, oh, he's not gonna be

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a big part. This is the entity movie even more

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so than the second or sorry, the first part, and

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I absolutely hate the idea of what the entity is.

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I will say though, all that being said, I had

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a fucking fun time with this movie, and I will

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defend it to an extent. I think this is miles

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superior than what I saw of Our Mission Possible too.

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I will die on that hill. I think, just like

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for me, Like like Tras you said, there's good sequences

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in this movie. I think that there's horrible sequences in

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this movie. But for the most part, it's it's it's

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a fun time. Like I still think they captured a

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lot of the just magic of what a Mission Ipossible is.

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Like I was with Shane, I were just picking apart,

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like the ridiculous thing that just allowed this Mission to work.

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And I think I would agree with the statement that

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this one has it times like ten, you know, like

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times ten compared to every other Mission Possible movie. But

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like this is also just the final reckoning, and it's

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like every time that a crazy thing is happening, I'm like,

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I'm so used to this now by going through this

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whole series, Like, yeah, it's a little bit more of

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a step up here, but like this is the whole

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fucking point. It's a mission impossible, and they do the

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impossible missions, and Ethan's always gonna succeed. This is what's

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gonna happen. So yeah, I think I will defend this

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to a point, but I definitely can totally get on

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board with with the fact that this is a very

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messy movie. I wish, you know, in another world, we

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could have been finishing off this series in a different way.

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I think just what they've been leading up to with

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the entity, like you can't just you turn after part

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one into this one and make it believable, Like I

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don't know, it would be an interesting case study on

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like what that potential could be. But I like, I

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I felt like halfway through the film, I was just like, whatever,

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it's an ncity movie. Let's just fucking do it. I'm

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I'm here for the ride, but let's see how they

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round this one out. I think there were some moments

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that definitely was getting me a little bit emotional just

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just thinking about that this is closing off the chapter,

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but definitely could have been done a lot better. But yeah,

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action sequences, I mean, like it's it's amazing, Like it

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is such a fun visual experience in the big screen theater.

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We got the good old Tom Cruise. Thanks for coming out, guys,

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watching movies the way that it should be. I just

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crack up every time I see that. We gotta start

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doing that for our movies, Like one of our movies.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do I got the perfect one.

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Speaker 2: And you gotta see my eyes watching like the teleprompter too,

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when you're reading it off, like make it like really obvious,

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like it is, so yeah, skip, what else was I

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gonna say? Uh oh yeah? And just like I was

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like sweating in a lot of these like action scenes

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you mentioned, like the submarine. I definitely think that's gonna

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be like the standout highlight highlight for everyone, even if

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they like or dislike the movie. And yeah, I know

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I'll save that for spoilers, but yeah, it's gonna be

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an interesting discussion, I think, because I did have a

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lot of fun with this one, Like I was cracking

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up in scenes when I shouldn't have been cracking up,

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which of course makes the whole wall experience better. Doesn't

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it necessarily make the film better? I guess. Last thing

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I'll say too, I think the cast was was really

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solid for the most part, like our main hitters. I

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think they were like just fantastic. And then there's a

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couple little side characters like okay, we got these guys

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for the ride? What was I God, there's some Travis.

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Oh yeah, it's just like fan service at the ying Yang. True.

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Some of it I loved.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's all bad in there, but there

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it was a lot of it, And there's some that

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just it changes nothing about the story. Why we do this?

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Why is this person related to this person? Why is

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this person? I was there that day?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, the one relationship thing. That one was like,

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what the fuck? Man?

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Speaker 1: That's Ray Skywalker bad? Especially the motivations that gives that character.

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It's like, this doesn't make any sense at all, Like

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especially we just did well. I just rewatched Dead Reckoning

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and it felt like two characters they put on a

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completely different track, and this movie it's like, uh no,

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they're they're doing something completely different. It's weird. I will

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say because I think this works. Nonsploor and we'll talk

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more and spoiler. I think she's a great actress. I

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think she's not bad in this movie. But I think

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Kevin Hayley in this role instead of Ferguson didn't work

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for me. Yeah, it worked a little bit in the

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first but the emotional strings are pulling here because I remember,

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I can't remember if it was money or if it

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was something else with Ferguson, and she wanted out, and

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if you're watching this also, you know they kill her off.

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It it felt like at times it was written for her,

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but it's not, because we've just met Grace and I

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I think a lot of things did not work with

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that character. Nothing because of Haley at well, just because

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of the circumstances there. And I think if you're talking

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about those emotional bits, if this was ilsa man would

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have hit ten times harder. But it just was it

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was lacking. It was there's not enough here, not enough

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meat on the bone to do these type of scenes,

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or not enough times passed, or even not enough time

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with these characters, because like that's the good and bad thing.

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A lot of time these characters together, it's the whole crew.

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So it's like and even last movie, it's like Haley

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at Will and Tom cruise there together a lot, but

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like lots of it's like the car chase where they're

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handcuff together. It's not like an emotional bonding scene where

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we got that with Ethan and Ilsa, right, but here

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they were hitting strings where it felt like they wanted ferguson,

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but things didn't work out with her in the studio,

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so it's like, well, we'll shift that story to Grace

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now and did not work for me again. Nothing with

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Haley though, nothing wrong there, and I think they have

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fine enough chemistry. I don't think they've reached the levels

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of obviously with the cruise and fergus and have, But

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it was beats that didn't work per se, and now

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I thought, maybe you should just lifted those, not even

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have them.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Still she could still be in the movie even friend,

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but there's certain I don't care. It's like certain almost

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romantic beats were like, ah, this just isn't really working

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for me right now, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I completely agree with it. It seems like

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the not necessarily the role, but like the position that

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this character is being Grace like, it just seems like

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it's written for Ilsa, for just what their emotional pie

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would be. So yeah, I completely agree with you there. Yeah,

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I know, yeah, I completely agree with what you said,

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and store it was also really good. I think past

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that I'm ready to go spoilers. Yeah, and I would

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recommend this, and I would choose this over Lelo, even

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though I am still excited to see Lelo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, the recommendation stuff. Ferguson said she

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chose the Leamish Apostle franchise permanently because her character Sofels

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was becoming a team player and she felt the story

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art come to a natural and she also said that

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she didn't feel the role was worth significant time conmmit

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and require permission impossible film, which obviously these take a lot.

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And I think what she's just kind of saying is, yeah,

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she's not a main character and she's part of the team,

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and that's fine, but they should have they should have

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made her a team player or like, not a team player.

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Speaker 2: I would have taken like she wasn't actually dead, like

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just to have her in here. Honestly, I would have

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been totally up is gone to just have her in

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that scene or not that scene, sorry, in that sequence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that.

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Speaker 2: I almost spoiled that. I'm not gonna say so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's get into spots if you're

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not see this movie and take her for a sad

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break and then we'll be right back and we are back.

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So I'm gonna usually you don't do this, but I'm

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miss say. We're gonna mostly go from begin the end

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because I don't want to miss some stuff. If we

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jump over, that's fine. But this movie, god, how does

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00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,160
it even start to go back to like the very beginning.

470
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,720
I'm trying to get back there because.

471
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: This long movie HS tape puts it in. Uh right,

472
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,880
you got the great Angela Bessette who's been promoted to

473
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,880
president of the United States, so good for her character

474
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,359
in this situation, the world was fucked. Yeah, and she's

475
00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:07,119
doing like an emotional speech to uh Ethan basically, please

476
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,680
give us the doomsday device. We promise not to do

477
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,640
anything nefarious with it, even though we probably.

478
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: There menacely being like release smallpox. I don't know.

479
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this kind of leads into the montage of

480
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,960
kind of what you're leading to the spoiler free section,

481
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,720
and which this is fine.

482
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: Because she's thanking them for a service. She's trying to appeal, right,

483
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,519
because the ideas the country like all this stuff is happening.

484
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,960
Of course, I set up like the entity has followers

485
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,880
and they're all fucking like religious Zella's pretty much it's like,

486
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,319
oh God, and like you said, Kirkland the that and

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,160
I guess for me that's where I'm I can't enjoy

488
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,680
this me that much because at least Dead Reckoning for

489
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,200
me is a mission possible movie. But then it's like, oh,

490
00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:46,400
this villain kind of sucks with the entity, where to me,

491
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,440
this is a this is an entity movie. You know,

492
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,400
it's all based around that. But yeah, they try to

493
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,839
plead with them, and I don't mind this. She's pleading

494
00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:56,359
with them and while she is like talking about all

495
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,240
these times she he saved the world and all these sacrifices,

496
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,839
they show everything right, that to me was all working.

497
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,400
I think that was good. And I was questioning, like, Okay,

498
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,279
it's it's weird like usually in these franchises if it's

499
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:08,920
an ending when we get this at the end, But

500
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,240
it kind of made sense that she's just trying to say, hey,

501
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,759
please come in and you know, meet with me so

502
00:24:13,799 --> 00:24:16,039
we could talk and stuff. So I think that all worked.

503
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,839
I think it was just tough as we continue on

504
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,839
because god, I can't I know which scene is coming soon,

505
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,559
but I'm just trying to remember how we get there,

506
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:30,799
but someone take the ball or don't.

507
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: It's the whole that whole scene, the whole starting point

508
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:42,440
is just for me. It's messy. And yeah, them just

509
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,319
like setting this up where he come on in bring

510
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,519
us the key, and you have to remember too, like

511
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,839
this is only two months after the previous film, and

512
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,720
I feel like after everything, to me, it feels like

513
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:55,920
it's been a lot longer of a period of time.

514
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,599
Especially with Aley Attwell's character. I feel like, Okay, she's

515
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,799
had a little bit more experiences with the IMF and

516
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,160
she's one of one of their own now, but no,

517
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:08,720
that's not the case. And with things being expedited here,

518
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:11,519
it's like, Okay, we have this weird fight scene where

519
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,000
two guards attack these other guards to rescue like Palum

520
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,680
Clementi's character, and then all of a sudden it's like,

521
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,119
oh no, it's actually Ethan and Benji, and all of

522
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,519
a sudden they recruit the other guy who is hunting them,

523
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,359
but they totally ignored the other guy, like it's just

524
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,279
and then it cuts to the next scene where they're

525
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,279
on this next mission and it's going they're at the

526
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,160
galla and then they get like electrified and then they

527
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,400
have to break out all of a sudden and then Yeah,

528
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920
it's just it's so fast. And this is before we

529
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,240
even got the title card yet, before they've actually got

530
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,119
on their mission.

531
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: When the Tubble cards were all in, I turned to Shae,

532
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,920
I'm like, it's just getting started. Let's get into there now.

533
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920
You know, we're all cut up. No. I feel like

534
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,559
the Galla sequence was the first moment where I'm like, oh, no,

535
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:57,400
we're like we're in trouble. It seemed it seemed like

536
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,519
I was missing something like I'm one part one to

537
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:03,440
part three and I miss part two or something like

538
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,160
in that series of events, because it's like, hey, we're

539
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,799
at the Galla. This is gonna be an interesting like

540
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,359
cat and mouse situation with Ethan like trying to find

541
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,880
Gabriel here. And then they just like there's two guards

542
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,759
that just confront It's like, we got eat the nut?

543
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:16,920
How do you know it's me. It's like, okay, we're

544
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,880
gonna call it in. And then Grace just randomy shows

545
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000
up dismounts their radios like instantly, and like they're in

546
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:25,680
the middle of like an event where they could be like, uh,

547
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,640
like there's someone with a gun here. Like even if

548
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,559
they get shot, they're kind of doing their job. And

549
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,839
I don't know, like they're security guards, they're kind of

550
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:36,720
supposed to. I mean, they're better than security guards. They're agents,

551
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,039
I would assume. So I found that whole moment so

552
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,480
head scratchy and like, I don't even know what to

553
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,839
compare it to. It's just like bad television.

554
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,759
Speaker 1: Even how they gap sure it's him and Grace talk

555
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:49,880
in the closet, then they move the curtain. These two

556
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,759
just big guys the needles for some reason. They they

557
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:58,559
they need Ethan twice, like just so like shows a badass.

558
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: And that's what they've been waiting for you, Like, yeah,

559
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:01,119
that was so weird.

560
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: That's one thing I'll say. This movie is just obsess

561
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,440
like obsessed with sucking Ethan Hunt's dick. Like everybody will

562
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,440
pull almost signs just like you're the greatest a man

563
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200
that I've lived, don't you know? And he's always like, oh,

564
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,599
thank you, like like he's so modest about it, but

565
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880
fuck man, like it happens. There's so many speeches about it.

566
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200
But yeah, those two characters Briggs, which we'll talk about later,

567
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,519
and the other guy was Digas, who was strange because

568
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,440
like this, I mean, we'll still jump forward and everything,

569
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,400
and Ted reckoning him and breaks up a conversation about

570
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000
the entity, and Briggs like, oh, well, you know he

571
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,400
can't trust Hunk because you know, uh what if he

572
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,079
gets the entity? What would one man do? Like he

573
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,640
asked the digas or I think that's how you say,

574
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,039
Like what would you do with it? He's like, why

575
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,480
I turn my superior. He's like, that's too much power

576
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,400
for one man to have, even though how's this movie

577
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720
and like one man has the power of the antony

578
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,279
and Vegas is like, you know later, yeah, pretty much,

579
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:54,079
And even even with Briggs, like it felt strange to me,

580
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,640
like I get it right where the whole movie and

581
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,440
I didn't like these characters last time, but the whole

582
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,240
movie in direct and he's hunting them down right, And

583
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,240
then they get to the train sequence and they have

584
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,119
an understanding. When Ethan Hunts jumps, he still goes, oh

585
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,079
no wait, but like it felt like a Okay, I'm

586
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,119
starting to see the shades of Ethan hunt He's not

587
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,200
a bad guy, but I still got to bring him

588
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,519
in where this felt like there was just like a

589
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,359
hatred for him. Astor again to why it's the dumbest

590
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,079
fuck it. Let's just talk about now, because I don't

591
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:22,319
know how much we'll talk about Briggs. At some point,

592
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,160
some other rigamarole happens. We'll go back to the plaza

593
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200
torture scene, because I there's some beats in there, that's fine,

594
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,279
but I Gabriel is a whole nother cookie to break into.

595
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,799
There's just just fucking but he just like when they

596
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:40,440
get caught at the plaza and the time a Gallas Sorry, yeah, no,

597
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,799
the plaza. At some point, Ethan of course, is arrested, right,

598
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,680
he's coughed. He's sitting in this car, this shopper with

599
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,400
Briggs and Briggs. Yeah, he's pissed off for some reason. Whatever,

600
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:53,759
I'm bringing you in and I'm sorry about your friend again.

601
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,079
We'll get there too. But he's like, yeah, I know

602
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,319
you're your real name. It's it's Jim Phillips. Huh. And

603
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,640
then so what they decided to do. They decide to

604
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,720
make this character the son of John voy in the

605
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,039
first one, which is very odd because you know what

606
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,839
Alseod they do. They give him the motivation. He's like, yeah,

607
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:16,480
where were they It was Prague, right, in the first movie.

608
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,200
I think he's like, yeah, and that your whole team

609
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,960
died in pro right, we had we saw it seemed

610
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,759
like five fucking times. It's more like two, but still

611
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,559
the fact that we saw it twice in both the Elevator.

612
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:30,599
He's like, you know in Prague, your team died and

613
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480
everyone thought it was you, but then somehow my dad

614
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,200
took the fall for it, and Ethan his thoughts, like

615
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,839
it's all true. No, it's not, it's not true. I

616
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,599
would understand if it was a situation where he got

617
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,519
a innocent even those team members, right, it was not

618
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,799
Ethan's fault, but if he felt guilty for it. But

619
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,319
Jim Phillips was a full on bad guy in Mission

620
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,880
Possible whenever you can say he's working for different countries whatever.

621
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,279
Speaker 3: But like I fucked your mom to.

622
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:02,039
Speaker 1: He and your sister, but like he's son. He is

623
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,640
a villain in in that movie. But all of his

624
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:09,440
motivations Briggs, now Jim Phillips Junior is you kill my

625
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,559
dad and pretty much framed him for it. Right, And

626
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,440
now Jim Phillips thinks that he is Jim Phillips junior.

627
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,559
Story he is like responsible for all This's like he's

628
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,519
gone rogue so many times. And yet again the last

629
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,920
movie I felt was turning him around, but okay, maybe

630
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,640
he's not fully turned. To make him this guy's son

631
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,279
change is nothing. Just make him Kittrick's fucking lap dog.

632
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,480
This hey, Henry Cavill's like it feels so odd. And

633
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:35,000
again this is like to me a full Tom Cruising.

634
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,000
The fact that the villain has gray hair and everything

635
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
that's make Tom look you younger. This guy is John

636
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,559
Voight's son but looks older than Tom Cruise. It's such

637
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,480
a fucking like he should be like a younger character.

638
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,160
In my opinion, Tom Cruise is the same age John

639
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,359
Voight was now a Mission Impossible one. He's that same age.

640
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,440
So when they did that, that for me was the

641
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,799
biggest irol. That's very much like Rise of Skywalker, like

642
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,599
oh who he related to how pau Patine return. It's

643
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
just like really like, yeah, why, especially with the director

644
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,200
this week being like, oh fan serves some movies. It's

645
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200
like a poison that's a bad thing. It's like, what

646
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,119
is this? Then there's no reason to tie him to

647
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,799
Jim Phillips here. It's and for even Hunt not to

648
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,119
be like, you know, like it was a you know,

649
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
like I loved your dad till like he turned like

650
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,640
whatever an explanation, but he just say, yeah, it's all true.

651
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,960
That's not all true. And my last poet is like

652
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,000
when I got up. I never got up in movies.

653
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,440
But when they're explaining Ethan Hunt for the fifteenth time,

654
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:31,279
when they're in the debrising and they're going for through

655
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,599
everything he's done, like, oh the Kremlin you bombed. That

656
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,039
will actually someone try to bomb? Oh Prague, you stole

657
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,359
the knockilas well? Was because of this? Wouldn't they have

658
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,079
this in the file already? Wouldn't have been Hey, Ethan

659
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Hunt in Mission Apossible one. We thought he was guilty,

660
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,799
but this was the chain of events. We rest as parents,

661
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,279
but we were wrong. Kitchers admit the wrong, same thing

662
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,599
and fucking the Kremlin. Oh we thought they bombed, but

663
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,319
it's wrong. So why is it. One guy's reading you

664
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,680
bonbed the Kremlin and someone's like, well, actually no, it's

665
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,640
not how that went. This would all be there. It's

666
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,559
felt like he's been on the run for thirty years

667
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:02,680
and they finally caught him. But that's not it. He

668
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,880
always reports back so I just it's I always mad

669
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400
the rogue stuff, but this was a level above of

670
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,240
like why does no one actually know he was an

671
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,000
innocent man? Why do they still like it's no sense?

672
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,599
Speaker 2: It was weird too for that specific like scene with

673
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,279
Kittridge because he mentions that the bombing of the Kanlin

674
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,319
was to like specifically kill Ethan, even though that's not

675
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:24,960
actually what it was. Like it was it was supposed

676
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,079
to diverge from like the attention that they still.

677
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Distraction so the guy could steal that briefcase and jump

678
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,000
off a parking lot later.

679
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 2: So I thought that was a little bit strange, but uh,

680
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:34,960
I don't know. I guess the info gets a skewed

681
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,440
down the line. But no, I completely agree with this

682
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720
is one tie that was so unnecessary and does absolutely

683
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,359
nothing to change it. Like if I watch Mission Possible

684
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,480
one now, I'm not gonna be thinking about baby Briggs

685
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,200
that comes later on and trying to avenge his father

686
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,960
and like he's he has such a smaller role than

687
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,720
he even has in part one, and like you would

688
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,000
think that like in part one, it's like I'm going

689
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,559
after my father's killer that pinned all this on him,

690
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,240
like like that's his vendetta, and it's almost like like

691
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,400
a side plot for this character. It's like, Okay, I

692
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,960
understand why he fucking hates Ethan Hunt so much, but

693
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,839
in this one, you don't even have a lot of

694
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,039
those moments because it's just we like, there's so much

695
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,319
going on in this film, and then we like quickly

696
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:14,279
cut to him and he's like, yeah, I remember you.

697
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,960
You you put it all on my father. Like you said,

698
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
the actual interaction is not even satisfying at all, Like

699
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
it's not even like no that they really pulled it off,

700
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Like it's kind of weird that they tacked also on

701
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,200
the movie. But that scene was really good, absolutely not

702
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,519
completely forgettable, completely unnecessary, and if anything, it like brings

703
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:33,359
down like it it doesn't add to the film, it

704
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,480
actually takes away from it. So that was you know,

705
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,359
it happens a couple of times in this film. I

706
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:40,880
think it actually knocks some of the things that's earlier.

707
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,640
You know, we'll get to the rabbit's foot situation.

708
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: But uh, how dare you been? Nine eleven on My

709
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,960
Father's He did it man, Jim Phillis was locking He's

710
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,960
sole Anochilus. He was gonna sell these people you're protecting,

711
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,119
He's gonna sell it all out, Like yeah, it's just

712
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000
it's it was such a weird jump, Like I said,

713
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,039
that would just be in file now because like, what

714
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,119
does that mean I'm to expect either this guy Briggs

715
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,960
Jim Fields Junior is an idiot or Mission Impossible Still

716
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,320
we working with Ethan Hunt and they think there's still

717
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,000
a chance that he stole the knocklist for his own game,

718
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:16,079
and like, well, so let him be an agent, Like clearly, yeah,

719
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,360
this whole time he might have went rogue, like in

720
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,599
a real rogue, like you know what, actually, uh, we'll

721
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,239
just give a past see returned the list and we'll

722
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,599
let his parents go. It's like, what are we doing here?

723
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:31,000
It's super weird. Darre You like Jim Fields Junior, he

724
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,280
excited to se him in Mission Possible nine.

725
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: Like I I My shock level was there. I mean

726
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,239
I was not expecting it. But it doesn't change the story.

727
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,039
It does nothing. I don't know why they did this

728
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,119
and all you see with this character too, and I

729
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,280
feel like, okay, it was an afterthought because we saw

730
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,559
this character in uh Dead Reckoning, and I don't think

731
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,039
that they were setting them up to be the Sun

732
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,599
in Dead Reckoning. I think they were just doing it

733
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,239
here because this movie was literally just a homage and

734
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,159
a callback to that first Mission Impossible and the Mission

735
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:08,639
Impossible three say those two specifically, Oh and then you get.

736
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,679
Speaker 1: You just remind me of another thing. Fuck.

737
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: So that being said, though, it just yeah, just with

738
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,480
this character, I don't know, it's just he he felt

739
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,400
so out of place. There was a lot of characters

740
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,960
that they put in here that I felt like they'd

741
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,719
just given like the camera, and it didn't feel like

742
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,400
they really fit the story. It felt kind of again choppy.

743
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,480
We would get a scene with Ethan Hunt meeting another

744
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:34,800
person like this guy here, and it just didn't feel right,

745
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,519
Like when he wakes up on the helicopter and the

746
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,880
guy's like, oh, I know your tricks, dad, Dad. He's like,

747
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,320
you know that's the.

748
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: Problem with you?

749
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: Then you don't follow orders, Like we don't need this.

750
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,280
This dialogue here isn't the problem.

751
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: It seems to be working out pretty well for him

752
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,039
for thirty years now, you know, like, just let him

753
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,960
do his thing. But yeah, so to go back, we

754
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:58,159
have fuck, we have they get caught. I guess I

755
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,480
don't know which one they establish again we should talk

756
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,440
about this that Ethan, h Benji, and Luther they're all

757
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,400
working undercover. They're in the fucking sewers, they're off grid da.

758
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360
Let's talk about Luther. For some reason, they make this

759
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,559
character sick. Don't know why, because they're gonna kill him

760
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:19,320
off in ten minutes. There's no like I would understand

761
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,000
if he's alive. The whole time, it's like, oh, why

762
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,360
is Vin raised on his mission? Well, they've made him

763
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,960
sick so he can't follow them yet, d da da

764
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,159
and like it to me, I don't care if it's like, well,

765
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:33,199
I'm gonna record you this message that was also so convoluted,

766
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:36,199
just have the mission and and then it plays a

767
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,159
tape and Ethan in this moment like oh my god,

768
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:40,360
I'm here on Luther not be like, hey man, I

769
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,239
record your message, but it's not.

770
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: Gonna walk out of the woods somehow. I'm like, okay,

771
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
they're just gonna have him like parachuting in or something

772
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:48,199
like you thought I died.

773
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: I got out of there, brother, Like and this isn't

774
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,039
even subtext. He literally says that Ethan, I have something

775
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,960
to tell you, but you can't hear it. Until after

776
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,559
the mission, and the advice is not anything like secretive,

777
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,280
nothing like to me anything, this is some info he

778
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,320
might want before like motivating. It's just Luthor making like

779
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,320
a raw ross speech like that's all it is, Like

780
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,400
I believe in you, Ethan, like maybe give him that

781
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,280
in the moment he's in a fucking submarine being like

782
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,519
I'm freezing my fucking dick off right now. Like but

783
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,760
Luther said I could do, Like it's so weird to

784
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,519
actively tell It'd be different if he told Benji like, hey,

785
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:22,360
just make sure after the mission, like he hears us

786
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,400
to tell Ethan, I need to tell you something, but

787
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,719
I can't tell you right now. I'll tell you how

788
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,000
this mission it's it feels so just like you're gonna wait.

789
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,400
And to me, that also spoiled that he lived because

790
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:34,880
when he's falling in the sky, we know we have

791
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,360
to hear this tape, so that's gonna happen. So there's

792
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,000
no okay, there's no tension for me because what there

793
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,719
is fucking Gray's gonna hear Luther like Ethan like, no,

794
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,119
that's hot. It so to me, they killed the tension

795
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:53,559
multiple times, but like again, why did they make him sick, bedridden,

796
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,280
if he's gonna die in ten minutes to.

797
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: Defend it Devil's advocate here. I feel like it's just

798
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,320
to keep him in that location. Like like if he

799
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,400
wasn't switch, he could he could move, he could move,

800
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,159
he could have a.

801
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:09,679
Speaker 1: But he chops to stay there and be on the computer.

802
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: He doesn't know he moves, he can have mobile shop.

803
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,119
Maybe it's just the semi truck or on a train

804
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,360
that's just going around fucking Europe or something.

805
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: But they set it up in the previous one, whether

806
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,800
he Luther was like, yeah, I gotta go off grid

807
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,800
for like two years or whatever, like three months later,

808
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,559
three months later, and they left them like this is

809
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,559
the the device. This be stick is the the ace

810
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,480
in the hole, and they just Ethan puts it back

811
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,119
in his pocket and leaves him there in his little

812
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,679
bunker with his mysterious nurse that gets killed.

813
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't have been anybody.

814
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I just like the thought now that like if there's

815
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,159
a world that Gabriel actually won and he like plugs

816
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,280
it in, he's like all right, yeah, the entity's mine,

817
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,960
and then it's just like, hey, I knew you were

818
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:59,719
exactly you Gabriels just fucking laugh and like, yeah, media laughing,

819
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,639
the killed Gabriel now.

820
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: In a fucking fring gone, which we'll get there, but anyway,

821
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:11,239
so that happens, they do this whole setup where of

822
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,159
course Gabriel has a fucking mega tongue nuke and.

823
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,159
Speaker 2: Many of those and then the one at the end.

824
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320
Are you getting these? Like it was such a hard

825
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:26,000
deal for John Locke to get the plutonium and fall

826
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,360
out and here we are whereas and like I swear

827
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,960
every bomb that he brought up was like ten times

828
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,079
bigger than the last. It's like this one's gonna just

829
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:38,599
decimate London. This one's gonna just nuke the entire continent

830
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,840
of Africa or like whatever it was.

831
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,039
Speaker 1: That thing about that plutonium though, always has like a

832
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:44,960
fucking twenty minute time or something. You can never just

833
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,039
find a platonium bomb that you can just like snap

834
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:50,400
like that, even in fucking Fallout and uh, what is

835
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,280
it rogue nation? Like this plutonium man, it takes some

836
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,800
time to warm up. But so of course, yeah, there's

837
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,199
in a bass doomsday bunker, right, yeah, Dunes, it's their

838
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:01,039
dooms a bunker.

839
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

840
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,119
Speaker 1: He logs and rams in there who's sick and has

841
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,639
his fucking he's he's looking like a sick dog as

842
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,400
Grell's giving his fucking villain speech. We'll get to him.

843
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,679
So they set up that, like, Gay, you can stop

844
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,840
this bomb, but someone has to be there to detach

845
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,719
and they're gonna die. They locked it and gave Youth

846
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,159
the no choice. And again this was my other thing

847
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,840
of him not being sick. To me, it felt like, kay,

848
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,639
Luther's not looking good. Even if they're successful, he probably

849
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,880
he doesn't have much time left, right, so it's like

850
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,280
it's it's really sad to louse Luthor here, but if

851
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,599
he's already on his way out, it's not that much sadder.

852
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,559
I thought it'd be worse, like, no, he's in complete help,

853
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,239
he's ready to go back on that mission, and no,

854
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,159
we gotta lose him. Same like later on when they're

855
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:44,800
like one of you have to stay at the bomb,

856
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400
and Simon Pegg who is on death's door, like, well,

857
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,559
I'm not saying, like.

858
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't to hack in?

859
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,519
Speaker 1: Right?

860
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: They need his skill.

861
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: I understood. I understood that later on, So I was

862
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,639
like at the time, though.

863
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: In the moment, I'm like, this guy should probably stay back.

864
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: He's like, how fucking selfish. They're like someone's got die.

865
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:02,559
Then you got a fucking guy from him. I one

866
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:04,400
like I guess me and my wife and my wife.

867
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,760
But then when they got the machine, I was like

868
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,559
ok and I did think like, okay, they probably need

869
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:11,800
him so fun but here again want to hit. But yeah,

870
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,440
that's how we lose him. And for it's like, then

871
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,760
you only got a few minutes and get out of here.

872
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,599
And you get Tom Cruise who runs along this movie,

873
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,360
and he runs out of there, and then the fucking police.

874
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,199
I don't even know who shay Wigghams aka Breaks aka

875
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,639
Jim Films works for. Like last movie was an IMF

876
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,079
but he's working with And even last movie, Kittridge was

877
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,199
on the train and he had some remark like, well,

878
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:32,960
you're not supposed to be here, so it doesn't consider

879
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,119
like he was throwing shade the Kittridge in this movie,

880
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,880
he's like, fucking buddy, buddy. They're like he's like saying

881
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,079
his life. It's like what happened in these last three months?

882
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:44,079
But yeah, we lost Luther. Yeah I wish this was

883
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,000
more emotional for me. It didn't hit the way I wanted,

884
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,679
just because I think there's just some kind of goofy

885
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,760
stuff going on. But uh, it made sense. We had

886
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,000
to lose somebody we thought we would, and I think

887
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,760
I feel like we all said Luther was probably it,

888
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,840
but like I think I was like Luther and Ethan,

889
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
if anyone has to go with, probably those two. And

890
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,239
you know he sacrifice play so good for him.

891
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: I feel like when we first see Luther and they

892
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,639
like show his deathbed just sitting there, he's like, he's

893
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,639
he's I mean, they're all looking older and this is

894
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,079
the final film here, but like just he's super He

895
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,800
looks sickly as such. He's like basically in his hospital gown.

896
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,840
I'm like, oh, we're losing Luther. We're losing him quick here.

897
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,559
I didn't think it was gonna go the route it did.

898
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,880
I'm with you. I wish the moment was more emotionally tying.

899
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,880
I'm okay with the decision to have him being sick

900
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,320
and this is just kind of like his final his

901
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,039
final mission. I like the speech that he gives to Ethan.

902
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,559
I like just the classic Luther like stoicism, Like he's

903
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:46,079
just super calm, like in that moment when fucking Gabriel

904
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,599
basically doing his evil mustache trail like you're fuck now,

905
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,519
mister Luther, and he's like hey man, and then uh, yeah,

906
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,000
I don't know. I like the moment. And then, like

907
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,039
I said earlier, like I kind of completely forgot that,

908
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,679
he mentions like, yeah, I got something to tell you afterwards.

909
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239
So in the moment when like I actually heard ving

910
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,039
Raim's voice, I was getting a little bit emotional, honestly,

911
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,840
even though it could have been a little bit better.

912
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,280
I'm okay with that decision there. But yeah, then just

913
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:18,559
last comment on the Benji on his death bed, I'm like,

914
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:20,960
are we actually gonna kill off ving Raim's and Simon

915
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,559
peg the exact same way where they're like dying, They're like,

916
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,239
I'll stay back with the bomb. So I'm I'm glad

917
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,199
I didn't go that route. And yeah, I thought Benji

918
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,039
was gonna kick the dest but kind of get ahead

919
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:31,599
myself there.

920
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,559
Speaker 3: I thought it was too I really did think Benji

921
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:39,800
was gonna go. But Luther's death scene it just I

922
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,519
don't know. I'm not like I like the character and

923
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:46,679
I like them a lot, but I don't feel like

924
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,000
they needed to kill him off. I don't feel like

925
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,280
they needed to do the whole medical kind of thing

926
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,360
or whatnot, because just killing him off but then not

927
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,519
killing anyone else off, it just doesn't feel like the

928
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:58,119
stakes are very high. And there are a couple you know,

929
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,039
there are a couple of moments where they steered year round

930
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,360
and you thought, oh, this guy gonna die, but no,

931
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,960
everyone everyone's safe.

932
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was also, uh, just thinking back

933
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,320
to Rogue Nation when Ethan's in his classic I m

934
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,519
F briefing and then the lady gets killed by this

935
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:24,280
one random new agent gets killed by oh my gosh,

936
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:32,800
what's his name, the leader of the syndicate Shaw, Oh

937
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,760
my god, yeah, Lang Lang. Like like that moment, remember,

938
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,119
Ethan's just like so like just distraught on losing this lady,

939
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,039
and he's like, I'm gonna fucking like yeah, like he's

940
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:44,639
gonna get.

941
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: The whole movie, the whole movie. The same way to

942
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,639
be like you look.

943
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: At that just dead nurse. That was just like just

944
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,920
rotty way in that chair. I guess his focus is

945
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,960
kind of you know in the moment on h on

946
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,960
Luther there, but I yeah, I'm just thinking of the nurse.

947
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
It's just it's like she's got murdered by Michael Myers

948
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,119
or something like she was so covered in blood and vicious.

949
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,519
Way to go, poor family.

950
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: It's not gonna know she's dead or anything like that.

951
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,559
She's just fucking dead somewhere like yeah, but yeah. And

952
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,440
then so we get this scene where I guess we

953
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,400
start talking about now like we referred back to later

954
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,039
when they get fucking showed, like Gabriel wants to see you.

955
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,559
I didn't mind. I think I like enjoy Gabriel enough

956
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:28,519
in the first movie. I don't know if it was

957
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,239
a writing choice, directing choice, actors choice. I think they

958
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,480
made him way too cheesy, over the top. This is

959
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,480
where it's the counter of like I Greeth Kirkle and

960
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,239
I had a good time. We had lots of fun Gabriel,

961
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,280
but in the sense of like kay, turn off the

962
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960
it's so bad it's good for me. I think he

963
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,599
overcooked this a lot, like just even little stuff like

964
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440
he gives ethan as Grace's plan and then they show

965
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:51,320
him in the glass and he's just like rubbing his

966
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,519
fucking fingers by the glass, like what are we doing here?

967
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,599
And he's just like it's weird. Situations where he's just

968
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,199
standing around doing nothing. He's like, you get Ethan, like

969
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,519
this guy's a train marks like he don't kill Ethan,

970
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:04,559
but he doesn't want him to, like also get away,

971
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:08,079
but I don't know. And then so another thing I

972
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:09,960
just don't like because again this is something like we

973
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,719
tell this and a review, and I think you guys

974
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,320
were more mixed on it. For me, I really liked

975
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,360
a mission Possible three. We didn't know what the fucking

976
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,400
rabbit's foot is and now be like, well, it was

977
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:23,480
the chemical like the beginnings of AI in the beginning

978
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,119
of the entity, and you know what, there's two things

979
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,360
I don't like about this. One is the revealing the

980
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,760
monkey in the bottle or whatever the expression is. But

981
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,559
like I could, I can, I won't deal with it.

982
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:37,239
Also like that's annoying, but okay, whatever to do the whole,

983
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,320
it's your fault, Ethan. The entity exists because you don't

984
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,400
need that knowing you should fucking do. Christopher Coruory put

985
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,119
that in Dead Reckoning, Make Tom Truce do something like

986
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:49,400
a mission, and then they like, oh, that was you know, fun,

987
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,440
because they do that. Remember in the mission they don't

988
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,360
show his face, but they show a mission where Gabriel

989
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,400
killed that woman he loved right like twenty three years

990
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,320
ago today I fucked her up, Like do that where

991
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:00,840
he's on a mission feel something, and then like you

992
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,639
set that up where okay, and your movie you're calling

993
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,239
like it's just like the J. J. Ryan Johnson thing.

994
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,320
It's like Cain Dead reckoning. Ethan does something specifically to

995
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,679
almost create the entity, right, some mission whatever, but to

996
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,679
be like, yeah, mission possible three, the rabbit's foot, that

997
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,360
was the entity, and I again to be like, Ethan,

998
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,000
it's your fault. I don't want that. That that irks me.

999
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,400
That's something where like maybe the Jim Fields Junior won't

1000
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,599
bug me watching m I three to like I hate

1001
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:32,639
that of like, no, it's not Ethan's fucking fault. It's

1002
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:34,639
the people made this fault. It's all these it's you

1003
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:37,559
guys are terrorists, like, but then the movie tries to

1004
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,679
put that on like it's not like he says, it's

1005
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,440
not my fault. No one talks them out of it.

1006
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,679
The movie puts on Ethan and he accepts it so

1007
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,639
us as the viewers are supposed to, except oh, yeah,

1008
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,480
our hero created the entity accidentally and that's that's done there, dude, dude,

1009
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,480
Dark Knight rise this thing where even then it's done,

1010
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:56,280
where it's like, okay, because Batman kills what's his name,

1011
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,079
rozo Ghoul tali Ogool comes back. It's dumb, but it's like,

1012
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,559
all right, I can kind of see that the entity

1013
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,559
he created the entity, and all, like the reason the

1014
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:06,840
world's a World War three is because Ethan Hunt, like,

1015
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,960
don't do this, like don't like, come on, the movie's

1016
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,159
already has grand scale enough.

1017
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: You know, I'm one hundred percent there with you on

1018
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,519
that one. I I didn't think it was like a

1019
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,639
trope that I really hated that much, but like, thinking back,

1020
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,280
I'm like, especially in a franchise setting, it's like remember

1021
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,360
when you stepped on this grasshopper and in the second movie,

1022
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:33,440
well that led to nuclear holocausts like that up, Yeah,

1023
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,159
Like I just think that's such a stretch and like, okay,

1024
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,320
we like we've been on this adventure. We fucking know

1025
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Ethan Hunt is the chosen one. Essentially, like every mission

1026
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,880
that he goes on, he can just fucking do it.

1027
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,920
He can hold his breath for twenty seven minutes if

1028
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,199
he has to. He can like just do whatever has

1029
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,320
to be done. I don't need the entity to be

1030
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,840
telling me that like you are now the chosen one, Ethan.

1031
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:56,519
I casted Gabriel to the side, like the one ring.

1032
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:00,599
So yeah, I think all of that, but she wouldn't.

1033
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,760
I actually hear like Ethan being like it was all

1034
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,760
my fault. I'm the one that's set off the entity.

1035
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,440
It's like, no, you weren't. Man, Like you saved the

1036
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480
world multiple times. I had Angela Bassett explaining that to

1037
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:12,320
you in that VHS in the beginning of the movie.

1038
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,840
It's like, you never obeyed orders, but you always saved

1039
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,679
the day or whatever the hell she's saying. And it's

1040
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,159
just like it's so counter like pick a side here,

1041
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:21,239
like is he saving the day or is he the

1042
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:25,000
like the elite, the cause to this apocalypse here?

1043
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: And I know we just watched it, but I can't

1044
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,039
fully remember, but I feel like Philip Steamer Hoffman knew

1045
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:33,679
where the rabbit's foot was and Ethan's team like stop

1046
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,800
them from getting it right.

1047
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: So it's just like, yeah, it's not.

1048
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Like it's not like that situation like they made it

1049
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,159
sound like, because you stole it back. That's like and

1050
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,679
even if the movie posed that way am I three,

1051
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,360
but it doesn't. Philip Seamer Hoffman, I can't remember his name.

1052
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,880
They name dropped again, like he his crew was all

1053
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,119
the way again that the only reason what happens is

1054
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,039
Ethan gets it back, so he has the idea of, oh,

1055
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:59,079
I'm gonna take his fucking wife and then we gotta

1056
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:01,719
make the swap. It's great, it's not oh, because you

1057
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,960
saved your wife, you put this back in the public,

1058
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,199
and now we're fucked. Way to go, Ethan. That's not

1059
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,519
the story of m I three. The MI I three

1060
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:10,400
is they had a mission at that point. Philip deepher

1061
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,880
Hoffmann was ready to like release the entity, you know,

1062
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,639
which is like, okay, cool. I liked them giving a

1063
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,320
little more cred to him than he was like the

1064
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,519
beginnings of it. But still it's just like, that's not

1065
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,119
what happened. But it's tried to retroactively make us feel

1066
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,440
and I just I just feel like Ethan doesn't deal

1067
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,440
with that guilty even that much to the movie feel

1068
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,119
like it's a plot point and then we move on

1069
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,599
because there's two hours and forty five minutes movies of

1070
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:35,760
other stuff to do, you know, So absolutely Taylor Rabbit's foot.

1071
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,159
I thought you and the review said, you want to

1072
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:37,519
know what it is?

1073
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: And now you know, I always, I always want to

1074
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,199
know what it's not something I ever thought we would

1075
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,239
get an answer for. And I didn't really need an answer,

1076
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,880
but I started to laugh. That's why again I feel like, okay,

1077
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,320
this is a direct continuation into Mission Impossible one end

1078
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,320
three and obviously dead reckoning, But it was always yeah, together,

1079
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,280
it was always planning.

1080
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: JJ new it, just like Palpatine, right, he knew it,

1081
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,639
Ray was, you know, but.

1082
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I just.

1083
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: It's weird why you'd write biohazard on a container and

1084
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,440
it's not got any fluids in it.

1085
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,679
Speaker 1: It's only got electrical digital hazard, didn't you know?

1086
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,519
Speaker 3: Ai Okaya of course, Yeah, So I don't know. It's

1087
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,199
uh yeah, it's see.

1088
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: That's why sometimes it is just better to leave it unknown.

1089
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: You know, same thing majority of time, honestly, because it

1090
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,800
never can like meet what you would expect it to

1091
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840
be in your head, Like it's like the pulp fiction

1092
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,400
briefcase thing, like it could be fucking Leprechon turds in there.

1093
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,679
It could be the entity. I don't know, because it's

1094
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,280
never been answered it could be the entity.

1095
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: It's the same color. Fuck color fucking Vin Raims is

1096
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:47,199
actually Luther in disguise. He's trying to get it. But like,

1097
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,800
and it'd be different if this was like, oh, I

1098
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,239
don't really want to know it, but then gross, I've

1099
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,960
done that twice a night Ghost Protocol did that. He's like, okay,

1100
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,960
like it's the one right after they said, but like

1101
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,719
this is almost twenty years later that's been captured. It's like, well,

1102
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,559
we're gonna reveal it now, and you don't have to

1103
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:03,920
do that. You don't, like I said, just the amount

1104
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,840
of cut, like the amount of footage they show of

1105
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,280
old movies, just film a scene of like oh, Ethan

1106
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,480
was on a mission and that TI and tied even

1107
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:12,400
tied to someone with Gabriel maybe because that could have

1108
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,360
been like oh, they never explained how Gabriel gets tied

1109
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,840
with the entity, right, have it that?

1110
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

1111
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever mission they were linked to. Gabriel from day

1112
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:22,400
one was tied to the entity as well, and he

1113
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,800
helped create it, but he was down for a write

1114
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,960
or with crew like whatever. It's just why tied damn

1115
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,119
I three? But like that's this whole movie? Why tie?

1116
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:31,679
Like and even then, like the guy I can't remember

1117
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,320
his name, but like the guy from m I one,

1118
00:52:33,639 --> 00:52:36,880
that's a fun one. I got no problems with that. Yeah,

1119
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,199
I got no problems with that. But when it's all

1120
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,159
of it together, it feels like a lot because it's like, oh,

1121
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:42,840
it's the Jim Phillips one, and then it's him, and

1122
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,039
that's m I three, and it's like you start to

1123
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,119
go down the list of these big ones, it's like, oh, like,

1124
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:49,599
to me, the only one should have been that guy

1125
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:51,599
from m I one. That should have been the only one.

1126
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,400
I think that was fun. It was a cool little moment.

1127
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,719
I love that one actually made sense of like, oh,

1128
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,320
so I ruined your life, but oh no, you did,

1129
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,800
like I found a new purpose, I met my wife,

1130
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,960
Like I learned there's more to life than just this,

1131
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:05,000
Like no, I thank you. It's like and I gave

1132
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,079
Ethan some perspective of like right, like I am here

1133
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:09,840
for the people we don't meet, like what they said right.

1134
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,360
That one actually paid off, where the Jim Phillips one

1135
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,880
didn't pay off. The rabbits foot didn't pay off.

1136
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,159
Speaker 2: The fact that we had the like both of them

1137
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:18,639
in the same movie. You can see the start comparison

1138
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:20,480
of like, this is how you do it with this

1139
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,679
character that you have in your movie. So why did

1140
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:24,679
you feel that this is acceptable to have like the

1141
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Jim Phelps one, Like like how does someone like, yeah,

1142
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,400
that's a perfect way to tie off this this character.

1143
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,159
Uh yeah, No, That's why I really agree with you

1144
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:33,760
on that.

1145
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: That's why I wonder when we did those retros and

1146
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,159
they said like, oh we did more conductive to stuff

1147
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,840
is a marvel so and I just wonder if they

1148
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,719
like saw Endgame and they're like, oh, we're we're gonna

1149
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,519
do that, and it's just like, but the thing is

1150
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:46,360
with Endgame, One, it didn't refer to every movie. And

1151
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,920
two there wasn't just like logical jumps with like Peter,

1152
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:52,159
I am your son, mister Robert Stark, and it's like no, no, no,

1153
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,079
like nothing like we didn't go well, you got revelations,

1154
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,239
but it wasn't anything like oh man, that really changes

1155
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,239
the scope of this. So it's yeah, but ye at

1156
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,320
that point, Okay, I.

1157
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Was just gonna talk about some Gabriel, but I don't know.

1158
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,039
Speaker 1: If about Gabriel. Yeah, they get away. There's like a

1159
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:10,639
fun little beat there that's when we get the title

1160
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,719
drop when they like Ethan just fucked up a guy

1161
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,119
and stuff and like chopped them up.

1162
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:17,679
Speaker 2: I think that was the first time I heard that

1163
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,760
child like making noise, and I'm like, there's a kid

1164
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,440
in here, Like this is like a graph he said,

1165
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,480
he's gone to mission impossible standards even like I feel

1166
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:28,760
like most mission like there's always action, there's always kills,

1167
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,079
but like that was like blood core, like there's like.

1168
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: A butcher and ow In the de's like cowe.

1169
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 2: Well just like shocked, like she just saw someone like

1170
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,960
browly murdered and he's like, oh.

1171
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: I liked that scene. I liked the idea of like

1172
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:47,119
they because ethan'siver like too violent and they're insane way

1173
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,360
he's doing some violence stuff, but she's like the camera's

1174
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,039
just on her and she's turned away close high school

1175
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:52,079
and you just hear the action.

1176
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,079
Speaker 2: That I liked it was the difference between like a

1177
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:59,920
thief and like an actual killer. Yeah, like a dangerous man,

1178
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,880
and I completely agree that. I thought that was just fantastic,

1179
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,920
like through her eyes seeing that side of Ethan, like

1180
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,719
they've been in peril together, but to just have that

1181
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,679
animal like he's covered in blood too.

1182
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and Gabriel Gabriel, Yeah, it's not in

1183
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,400
the movie a lot, but he makes he sure makes

1184
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,480
an impact and he's in it.

1185
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: But I agree with that actually stated because he feels

1186
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,679
like he's in it more than he is. I'm with you.

1187
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,159
I think, I what's the actor's name, Assi Morales. I'm

1188
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:35,000
probably saying that wrong, but I just feel like he

1189
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:38,280
has a certain gravitas that he carries so like in

1190
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,320
the first film, like we don't have a lot of

1191
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,719
like long sequence of dialogue with him, but he just

1192
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:46,559
he like commands presence when he's there, and especially like

1193
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,519
even without like Ethan's like I'm referring back to the

1194
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:51,880
last film now, but like when he has those like

1195
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,119
AI goggles and it's like glitching out around him, like

1196
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,800
he just feels like an entity in and of itself. Yeah,

1197
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,440
then I feel like it's it's now that I've seen

1198
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,280
this whole film, I'm like, man, this character is so

1199
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,960
much better in small dosages, like like like he the

1200
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,880
more stoicxcited, The character is so much more interesting too.

1201
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,800
You know, we haven't been talked about it. Like by

1202
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,400
the time that you that you get to the plane sequence,

1203
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:21,519
he literally he literally becomes perk angle at the end,

1204
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,679
like he's like like laughing like that and smiling and

1205
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:25,400
he's just got.

1206
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,639
Speaker 1: Rock fucking right now, man.

1207
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: But it looks like he's like biting that ethan like

1208
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,800
in the air. Like I don't even know what the

1209
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,840
fuck that sequence was. But uh, and like even before that,

1210
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,119
like when they're in the actual doomsday bunker, he just

1211
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:41,880
seems so mustache totally. And uh, it's not really what

1212
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,599
the vibe that I get from him in the first

1213
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,480
part of.

1214
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: No In the first part, I got the vibe that

1215
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,400
I think it was not as well than the him

1216
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,199
less time, but I felt like they were like doing

1217
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,519
an sugar Anton sugar light, you know, like very soft spoken,

1218
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:57,519
very quiet, but can just kill you. Like then he

1219
00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:59,599
has like that dead look in his eyes, right, and

1220
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:01,639
I like in there, but I felt like this they

1221
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:03,599
went the other side, and like Taya said, it's not

1222
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,920
been it's been like three months, so it'd be different.

1223
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,719
It's like, oh it's been multiple years. Maybe he's just

1224
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,199
fucking crazy, right, because they and I feel like they

1225
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,760
tried to do that with at the beginning when Tom

1226
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,639
Chris talks the entity Palm's like, oh, it'll change you.

1227
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:17,840
So I feel like they're trying to insinuate that. He's

1228
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,679
like Gabriel's been changed because he's seen the antity. But

1229
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,800
it's like, I don't buy that. Ethan's not really that change.

1230
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,760
Gabriel seems pretty much the same. Guys just hamming it up.

1231
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,559
But like I said, we're going all over I don't

1232
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,639
care when there's that moment that okay, he first of

1233
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:35,280
all just dumb. They had the two play playing sequence. Great, yeah,

1234
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,880
kudos to Tom Cruise, but how he gets there. He's

1235
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320
on the red copter and Gabriel's on the yellow. When

1236
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,400
he's flying like right underneath him, and Gabrel's like, you're

1237
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,880
looking around, like no idea that Tom Cruise. And even

1238
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,559
then when they show the shot and Tom's climbing up,

1239
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:52,920
Tom's climbing up in a peripheral where Gabriel is like

1240
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:55,360
three to four feet behind him and he still does

1241
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,159
not see even after a bump and then just go.

1242
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,840
But then when he was on the plane, he's like

1243
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,440
looking around whatever. That was cheesy, But so of course

1244
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,760
he gets the best of them. He pulls him, you know,

1245
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,519
off the shrub, and I don't know why they showed

1246
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,400
I get it. Gabriel has the necklace with the poison pill.

1247
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,519
They showed that shot like twenty times. It's like, I understand,

1248
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,000
I get it. We know we're going for But of

1249
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:19,480
course Ethan finally gets the best of them, throws them

1250
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:22,920
off the copter and Gabriel's high like hanging on and

1251
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,760
he's like, only one of us has a parachute, Ethan,

1252
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,079
and then for some reason they decide to give him

1253
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:34,360
a scary movie death. He lets go, he gets nutsacked

1254
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,320
and then he his whole body does a contortion and

1255
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,239
then it lands on the oh and then he's dead.

1256
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,480
I said to Taylor, if I'm in the editing room,

1257
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,000
I say, you cut the fucking nuts like one and

1258
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:50,360
just smash cut to head copter because I still thought

1259
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,559
it was cheesy. Him the look in his eyes and

1260
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:54,800
him saying that Ethan still thought it was cheesy. But

1261
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,519
when they have him died like a nutshot, he literally

1262
00:58:57,519 --> 00:59:00,440
felt like scary movie was making a mission possible already,

1263
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,320
like it felt comedic. It felt like Cindy getting hit

1264
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,760
with the car like it. It killed the moment for me.

1265
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,239
It killed, Yeah, it ruined it. We had a good

1266
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,199
time with all of us.

1267
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,159
Speaker 2: Were the whole theater laughed in this moment. And this

1268
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,559
is like the villain for Ethan thinking that this is

1269
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:20,679
what he want to go to IMF. This is literally

1270
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,280
the start of his IMF career, is it's framed, Yeah,

1271
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,800
and killed Rebecca Ferguson, the person that should have been

1272
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,320
in this mother Like this is the most important villain

1273
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:34,559
for like the whole scope of the franchise, not in

1274
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:37,239
my rankings, but just like in the whole scope exactly.

1275
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:39,000
And this is how we kill him off in a

1276
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:42,320
scary movie way. And the whole theater literally laughed when

1277
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,639
that happened, like like that should be like a like

1278
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,039
I get like a gut reaction if you just see

1279
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:51,679
his head splat, but the fact that he splits and

1280
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,679
right before that, I'm gonna have to play it again.

1281
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Only one and.

1282
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,079
Speaker 2: Then just nuts himself, Like my gosh, what are we

1283
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:03,920
doing here? People?

1284
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: I finally thought I thought they're gonna have Ethan say

1285
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:09,400
I want and like kick him or something, because like

1286
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,960
Gabriel has this weird fucking fetish She's like say I

1287
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,000
want Ethan, say fucking say I won so hard, like

1288
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,320
just tell me, man.

1289
01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:19,079
Speaker 2: Tell me like he's like buying hookers and he's like,

1290
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:21,559
say I want, like say that you're Ethan's say.

1291
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're coming, say that I won, even though

1292
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,079
you're coming, say that I want. So I thought, oh,

1293
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,760
they're gonna give Ethan the line here and they know

1294
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,400
even just looks at him because he has a chip

1295
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,920
in his mouth, and yeah, I have the last parachute,

1296
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:39,960
not shot headshot dead. It's like again, why, like who

1297
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:41,920
thought this was a great idea? And I think in

1298
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,960
other movies that works, right, Like Ghost Protocol that's more

1299
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,199
of like a comedic movie. The whole way through there's beats,

1300
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:49,559
and like when he does Mission accomplished, you could have

1301
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,159
that comedic be because it's kind of like more of

1302
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:52,400
a fun event like.

1303
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: That.

1304
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,519
Speaker 1: Y I'm saying Ethan in that moment when he goes

1305
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,679
Mission accomplished and it's kind of a laugh all Protocol,

1306
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:02,360
even when he's doing the Dubai scene, it's like that's

1307
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:05,440
like it's always it's never too serious, right we're in

1308
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:08,119
I three, there's not like imagine if Philip seen er

1309
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:10,719
Hoffmann died that way after threatening to kill like after

1310
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:14,280
the like seven and like he got nut shot at

1311
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,239
you'd be like, what movie are we watching? That's what

1312
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,360
I mean, where you can do that scene, but then

1313
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,039
you have it has to be a different mission possible.

1314
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:22,199
It has to be way more of a fun going.

1315
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,639
This is a popcorn adventure. This is not World War Three.

1316
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:27,840
That's in a different movie. This movie where it's a

1317
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,440
fun reckoning him getting nutshot by the plane and those

1318
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:33,280
acting choices. I said to Tanna car it felt like

1319
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960
he was E McDermott in the Palpatines and he was like,

1320
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:38,679
I am the Senate. He's making those faces with the

1321
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,880
That's what he was going. And again I don't know

1322
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,840
if it was direct. I think it was because, like

1323
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,039
I said, I think they're trying to make us think

1324
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,679
that he's a different man because he's been talking to

1325
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,039
the entity the same way Ethan's now a different day,

1326
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,559
That's what I'm thinking. Or they just made it more

1327
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:56,280
radical because there's been some time, because he was not

1328
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,639
like sure he shot a couple of smiles, but he was.

1329
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:05,559
Speaker 2: Not this level in no, no, yeah, no one thing,

1330
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:07,719
one thing I'll or last thing I'll throw on. Just

1331
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:10,440
the cheesiness. That added to that the fact that like

1332
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:14,039
this guy like he clearly like this is his plane.

1333
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:15,760
I would imagine he knows how to fly it, like

1334
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,920
he knew where they were it, he knows everything about

1335
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,039
the plane and he's like only one parachute? Does he

1336
01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:24,480
not know there's another fucking parachute like in the seat

1337
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,760
where like Tom Cruce, It's exactly like it was, like

1338
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,119
it was kind of an intense sequence, like it actually

1339
01:02:33,159 --> 01:02:35,639
reminded me of no time to die, Like when you

1340
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:39,119
have that realization that it's like okay, like James Bond

1341
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:40,679
is not making off his island here, like when he's

1342
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:43,840
holding it when he calls les Do and I'm like

1343
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,280
getting chills, like just accepting, like the waterworks are basically

1344
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,920
starting to develop. I'm like, oh, I'm like this is

1345
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,480
actually happening right now, like we're actually killing this character.

1346
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:55,320
I first split second I actually had that thought when

1347
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,360
Ethan is in the plane and he's like trying to

1348
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,039
put the chip in and then he just sees smoke

1349
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:01,199
and then like the the the plane lights up. I'm like,

1350
01:03:01,199 --> 01:03:03,159
this is how he dies, Like this is actually gonna

1351
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:04,519
be the end here. Did you have a.

1352
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,719
Speaker 1: Problem though with him like getting out a copter before

1353
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:07,760
it put the chip in, like I.

1354
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:10,239
Speaker 2: Thought, like put that priority.

1355
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:12,039
Speaker 1: There was like five shots of him like going to

1356
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:13,800
the chip and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna do this

1357
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,800
first it's like it's like he didn't want to do it.

1358
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: Part of me was like, Okay, maybe you have to

1359
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,800
be closer, like it's like a range thing so he

1360
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,559
knows that like it wouldn't work. But yeah, no, one

1361
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,519
hundred percent, because they they never explained that. He just oh,

1362
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:26,360
I think, just be cooler if I'm out of the plane,

1363
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,360
or he's just looking after his life over the entirety

1364
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,119
existence of mankind in that moment, which probably a poor

1365
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:35,519
judgment call. So a couple of messy things part of

1366
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,760
me in that sequence for sure, But yeah, I want

1367
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,000
to say, like in that moment when the when the

1368
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,440
planes'sl like up, I'm like, holy fuck, this is actually

1369
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:44,280
it like we're gonna say goodbye to Ethan Hunt here. Nope,

1370
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,760
just fucking puts on a shoot and then and then

1371
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,639
it's it's almost like like a like a one up

1372
01:03:50,679 --> 01:03:52,800
on that when when he's flying he's trying to put

1373
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,000
the chip in, and then his parachute like lights on fire. Again,

1374
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,719
I'm like, oh my God, like we're actually having this

1375
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,639
moment again. Nope, spare parachute vibes. Hear ving Raim's it

1376
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:04,480
all worked out and it's just like that that that's weird.

1377
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,519
I don't know how. I was kind of bothered by

1378
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:08,840
it in the moment, and the more I think about

1379
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,159
it now, it's just it adds to the corniness to

1380
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,000
Gabriel's death in that moment, and I definitely enjoyed him

1381
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:18,639
going per gangle for just enjoyment wise, but that's something

1382
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:20,679
that I think on rewatches, it's just gonna bother me

1383
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,559
more and more.

1384
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: That because I like that show. When he had the pair,

1385
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,159
that was the only time where I thought, oh, it's

1386
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,519
over for him, because I was like, I know Luther's

1387
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:29,800
things coming, so I thought, oh, maybe there's a chance

1388
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,920
he's gonna like hear it falls.

1389
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: Hey brother, I knew you were gonna do it.

1390
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like a boy, he's over Luther. But then you

1391
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,559
go to Ethan and she's like, like, you can't hear

1392
01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:43,400
it at all, like and it's just Luther. But like,

1393
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:45,960
the only time for a second I was semi convinced

1394
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,400
is like you said that shot when he has the

1395
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,360
parachute and just burst some flames and like fuck, like

1396
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,159
what do you do? But no, Ethan was fine. His

1397
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:55,480
whole team walked away like not Luthor. But like even

1398
01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:57,960
at the end, they just weirdly meet up in the

1399
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,960
middle of a street, like did you not just pay

1400
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,599
a restaurant to show up? Like why are you doing

1401
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:05,599
it this way? Is Dagas Like he's not even imf

1402
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:07,159
why why see? Like I know he's on the team,

1403
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,039
but it's like is he now? Like he's disappearing, Like

1404
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,800
it is the same thing with paulm Like she's international criminal.

1405
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,920
I guess they can bring her in now, but who

1406
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,760
does what's going on? And fucking Tom Cruise is walking

1407
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,280
off with the entity and you know why, Jimmy thinking

1408
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,280
that they did this just because I wouldn't put it

1409
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,960
past them to do another one, because I just don't

1410
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,960
think Tom Cruise, I like the final Wreckting was just

1411
01:05:29,079 --> 01:05:32,440
a ploy to make this happen. Cruise is gonna go

1412
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,320
do a couple of different movies like Top Gun three,

1413
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840
that and you wrought to a movie and then they

1414
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,639
can you know, the returning Wreckting or whatever. Like it

1415
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,320
for me didn't feel like an end to this character.

1416
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,199
It felt like a massive mission, but didn't feel like, wow,

1417
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:48,280
I went on a jury, they didn't even do that

1418
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,920
because what I was convinced because Maddy putting that poll.

1419
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,239
I think we tell about a couple of retros that

1420
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,440
at first I thought when we got the time, like, oh,

1421
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,199
he's gonna die. But then I came around to they're

1422
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:57,960
gonna do the Dark Knight Rise is where it's gonna

1423
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,239
seem like he dies but he's like written off but

1424
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:02,039
he could still do something. But this was like, nope,

1425
01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:05,159
he just successful. Mission did it again. Ethan, you're the

1426
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:07,960
fucking best man, because I just like Tom Cruise was like, well,

1427
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,559
you know, Eathan Hunt wouldn't die, and it's like something

1428
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,280
sometimes you gotta die, like especially like I thought they were,

1429
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:21,599
especially in the cave. Ethan turns to Banji AND's like,

1430
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,280
take care of your team. I thought, oh, this is

1431
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,119
like the passing that like it's gonna be Benji's team

1432
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:28,119
from now and then I can be like, oh, you

1433
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,119
could do Mission imposs with I don't think Simon peg

1434
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:31,800
would ever be lead, but you could bring in you know,

1435
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,119
a Glenn Powell, hot young up start, but like, oh,

1436
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:35,599
they've set up this team and if they want to

1437
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:37,920
do more. You got like the spirit of Tom Cruise

1438
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,440
and Ethan, but he's gone, you know, but it's like, no,

1439
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:43,039
you don't need the spirit. I'm right here. It's just

1440
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,880
it just felt, oh, just okay, another mission and sometimes yeah,

1441
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,840
the hero does need to die, you know in my opinion,

1442
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,119
And I just because this does not feel like the ending.

1443
01:06:52,159 --> 01:06:54,000
It just like and maybe it is, maybe they never

1444
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,719
do another one, but it just feels like, Okay, this

1445
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,480
was another mission. But it felt like Cruise like disappeared

1446
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,880
to the crowd of the Entity. It's like, where is

1447
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,599
he going to release smallpox? Next? Like what's he doing? You?

1448
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:06,599
Speaker 3: No, in the next the next movie, whatever thready faces,

1449
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:08,239
the Entity is gonna be his ally and they're.

1450
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:10,559
Speaker 1: Gonna hundred percent you know how we could solve this,

1451
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,119
how even I can't do Luther, We're gonna release the

1452
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,679
easy Yeah, the Entity one hundred per cent.

1453
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,199
Speaker 5: Hey, brother, remember the y he rewrote programs because they

1454
01:07:22,519 --> 01:07:24,719
made such a big point of like, there's only one

1455
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,440
man in the world we can trust with this, And

1456
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:28,280
then like you know what to do with this is

1457
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,639
like what is he doing?

1458
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:32,599
Speaker 1: Because I guess I assume you just can't destroy the

1459
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:34,519
US stick because I guess the entity would just like

1460
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:37,480
disperse the electronics, right, No, I mean.

1461
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: No, because it's it was basically all in cyberspace and

1462
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,159
then it okay, its plan was to go into the bunker,

1463
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,079
the doomsday bunker, and be isolated there, but it went

1464
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:46,800
to the safest part of that bunker was in this

1465
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,800
like like okay, exposable hard drive.

1466
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: But so but you're saying, so if they get this thing,

1467
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:53,239
this hard drive, and Ethan just like blenders it up,

1468
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,360
the Entity's gone.

1469
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, it can't. Just it's not an aerial

1470
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:58,320
airborne thing.

1471
01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:01,239
Speaker 1: And so for me this is like and I hate it,

1472
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,559
but I get it. And Harry Potter when fucking he

1473
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,360
gets like the Elder one and he breaks him like

1474
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,320
you never know you might need that again, Baltimore's come back.

1475
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,719
How many times you're breaking this in this movie. I'm like,

1476
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,800
the entity needs to go, and what does he thought

1477
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,559
to do? Let me keep this like like this is

1478
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:19,039
like because to me, I thought, the payoff is like,

1479
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:22,159
you're this is the most powerful thing ever crying world, Ethan,

1480
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,079
you know what to do with it? What should we do?

1481
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:27,119
And I thought, oh, the easy ploy is he destroys

1482
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:29,880
it and showing like, no, this is not the most

1483
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,159
powerful thing we as a people. You know, they're doing

1484
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:34,720
the whole America speech like we're more powerful, we don't

1485
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,880
need this. But Noah, he kept it for safe tidings,

1486
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:39,720
just in case he needs something. It's like, man, fucking

1487
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,920
need this, this motherfucker, Like no one in the government

1488
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,520
has such a problem with him. But Tay, we're coming

1489
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,079
on with some tangents. What are your your final thoughts

1490
01:08:48,079 --> 01:08:51,199
here on on Gabriel and some of his antics this movie.

1491
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,279
Speaker 3: Uh, he totally is a step down from everything that

1492
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,279
I and I say this loosely because I didn't like

1493
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,520
him that much in the previous movie. But yeah, he's

1494
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,800
just he's a step down. And yeah, he's just the

1495
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,319
fact that he was no longer under the I guess

1496
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:10,319
the protection are just involved with the entity that they

1497
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,600
broke disbanded it, they broke up. Yeah, he was just

1498
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,279
ready to go off the rails here. He had his

1499
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,760
own plan. Now it is written as he was saying,

1500
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:21,600
And yeah, just the kookiness of his character when he

1501
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,239
was the whole plane sequence and they're like upside down

1502
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,560
like he's looking at Ethan and then he's.

1503
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,239
Speaker 2: Just like, what's his plan here? Right? Because he needs

1504
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:32,279
the device that Ethan has, and he's like, I'm just

1505
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,319
gonna fucking ram you and take you down.

1506
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:36,520
Speaker 1: Well he said it in the plane, He's he said,

1507
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,079
wherever I go, you fall, So he's just saying.

1508
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,119
Speaker 2: That, like trying to kill Ethan in this moment.

1509
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll go down the flanes and get it and

1510
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:49,680
then yeah, okay, even then, to me, it's like, what

1511
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,199
Ethan gets shot while he's like, you know, when they're

1512
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:54,960
pinned down and all those people a shooting at them

1513
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,079
in like the cave there, what if he gets shot

1514
01:09:57,119 --> 01:09:59,239
and that bomb goes off and this thing's just destroyed?

1515
01:09:59,239 --> 01:10:01,479
Like even then, what if like he doesn't follow you,

1516
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,079
what if there's no spy as good as Ethan on

1517
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:05,640
that doesn't know where Gabriel? So it's such a dumb plan,

1518
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,239
like I'm gonna run away, You're gonna chase me. It's like,

1519
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,520
but of course it works out right because just as

1520
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,520
he planned it, right.

1521
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:15,119
Speaker 3: Well, just as he planned it. But even then, like

1522
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,880
it's just weird because he got on the plane knowing

1523
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,000
that he was gonna run away, and he he ran

1524
01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:23,680
away knowing, Okay, Ethan is not going to come after him.

1525
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,840
So his plan was Ethan would probably get out of

1526
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,720
there and then they would just get it later on.

1527
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,920
But even then getting it later on, like it would

1528
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,800
be too late because the world would have detonated.

1529
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,520
Speaker 1: The Like That's why I didn't understand the detonating part,

1530
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,920
because I thought, Okay, I get the idea. He's gonna

1531
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,680
get it, stop the empty and he'll control anty, right,

1532
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,560
but it's like, yeah, it's gonna go to nuclear war now.

1533
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: That was never gonna happen until Ethan lets the entity

1534
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,319
into the server, right, because the entity.

1535
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:53,319
Speaker 3: Was like, wait, right, I needed to be protected first.

1536
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,399
Speaker 1: What was your countdown?

1537
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 3: Then?

1538
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: That you that was the bomb in the No.

1539
01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: No, the countdown was when the US was gonna get hacked.

1540
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: Or like the death.

1541
01:11:03,279 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: Gone one, yeah, which is like, but if they got hacked,

1542
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,760
I guess that was the present thing. He had just

1543
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,239
turned the nukes off, right, and that's.

1544
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:12,199
Speaker 2: What she was trying to do before that happened. And

1545
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:14,840
then he gets control and then they don't know that

1546
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:17,920
it's waiting essentially, so they're like as soon as they

1547
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,560
get America's missiles, they're shooting it. And then they're just

1548
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,199
basically holding their breath for the bombs to come. They

1549
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:25,800
can't do anything about it because they lost control. They

1550
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,720
didn't cut the power in time. But yeah, from their perspective,

1551
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,279
they have no idea why they're not going off but anything.

1552
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:35,239
Speaker 1: They're just sitting in your room for three days. Like

1553
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:36,439
also they make some plans.

1554
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,159
Speaker 2: They're sitting weeks in there, just like it smells like

1555
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,319
our twenty four hour stream much.

1556
01:11:41,159 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: For the seventeen like, and they're just sitting there like, well,

1557
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:46,960
I hope Ethan did it, you know, and then like

1558
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,199
ohsoe they are making some contingency plans and then they

1559
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,520
you know, it's fine. Film expires film, there's lost films

1560
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,000
like copy. But man, this just felt like a lesser

1561
01:11:56,079 --> 01:11:57,880
version of the dark knight boat scene to me, of

1562
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,720
like it's that same setup, right of which country's gonna

1563
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,960
knew each other first? Like and then are we gonna

1564
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:07,359
end the same result? Right where Bassett doesn't turns off,

1565
01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:08,720
takes the key and you have some people on the

1566
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,039
boat trying to attack other people. He had that one

1567
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:13,880
secret whatever CIA who secret service guy that tries to

1568
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,119
kill the president, And I liked that twist. We're off

1569
01:12:16,119 --> 01:12:19,119
from him is against her, but he still saves her

1570
01:12:19,159 --> 01:12:20,720
life because he knows there's a line. I'm like, hey,

1571
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,640
I disagree with her, but we're not gonna fucking assassinate

1572
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,000
the president. So I liked that felt very odd for

1573
01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:28,479
Nick Aufman to be there when I thought saw him like, oh,

1574
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,079
it's being a much bigger role. Like, don't get me wrong,

1575
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:33,000
it helps have a good actor there, but it was

1576
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:35,800
just was it was odd. So I liked that. But yeah,

1577
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,800
it's just the boat seen from Dark Knight of instead

1578
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,079
of two boats, it's eight countries deciding, hey, should we

1579
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:42,840
knew each other? But we never gonna see Canada on

1580
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,680
the map either, you know, I know we don't do Canada,

1581
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,079
I know, but we never when they show like everything

1582
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:48,960
powered out. Don't know what happened to us.

1583
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,039
Speaker 3: So there's no nukes.

1584
01:12:52,319 --> 01:12:54,359
Speaker 1: I just mean in general, like I mean like they

1585
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:56,720
never like when they showed the world map, we never

1586
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,960
saw Canada once on it, like at all.

1587
01:12:59,119 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada was on the when they're where as the

1588
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,840
Saint Martin Island was, Canada was there.

1589
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 3: Great out because that's exactly only the countries that were

1590
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,000
in red had nukes. Everything else was in white.

1591
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,039
Speaker 2: But red were the ones that they had nukes that

1592
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:15,119
were taken over by the antitud So it was never

1593
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:18,560
really eight countries waiting to hit the button, because when

1594
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,319
we start, it's like I think it's Russia, London, and

1595
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:26,079
the US or oh and then China. Maybe there's like

1596
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,720
four that still have control.

1597
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,359
Speaker 1: And waiting for them. With the other four, then why is.

1598
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: Waiting for under success chance that it'll wipe out the planet.

1599
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,119
And that's why it needs the entire world's arsenal, even

1600
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,600
though I'm sure they have enough with the majority of

1601
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,319
those nukes, I'm sure it could wipe out everyone. But

1602
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,840
I guess it's just going for so that that part

1603
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,439
I understood, even though it's it's a little like again

1604
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,560
like well, of course, I guess we just need all

1605
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,760
of them before we can get to uh.

1606
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,079
Speaker 1: And it's on a time apocalypse mission. Apostles always big

1607
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:01,000
with timers, but this movie, especially every fucking McGuff it's like,

1608
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,920
you got twenty minutes, you got eighteen minutes, you got

1609
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:03,520
an hour.

1610
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: You calculating, like we know for a fact it will

1611
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,920
have control of our nukes at that time, Like is

1612
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:11,079
that what that time was?

1613
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: Or yes, I think so, yeah, I think that maybe

1614
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,000
there's some algorithm where they discovered the other countries when

1615
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,000
they were taking over, and it's this intervals. But again,

1616
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:23,239
like I just like I I personally what they've showed

1617
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:25,560
the entity you could do. I don't believe the entity

1618
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,520
could just not just take over all the countries like

1619
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,319
that at the exact same time. Why is it like

1620
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:32,199
within every three days, it's like, Okay, we're taking this one,

1621
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,760
then we're taking America, then we're taking u K. It's like, well,

1622
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,399
it's it's.

1623
01:14:35,319 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 3: Different levels of security, right like.

1624
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,239
Speaker 1: God Modeay, this thing can predict everything like it's.

1625
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: And it's like it's and it does like it will

1626
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,479
get in there eventually. It's just they can't do it

1627
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,039
right away. I can imagine.

1628
01:14:49,079 --> 01:14:52,399
Speaker 1: I don't like the then I don't like the idea

1629
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,399
that they literally have a clock like they figured that,

1630
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,000
like the entity, we know that it'll take three days

1631
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,600
for the entity to get.

1632
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: The time for them. You know, this is when I'm

1633
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,000
ready to blow. This is I think my biggest issue

1634
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,159
with this entity enemy and man, like, I feel like

1635
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:08,840
when I rewatched this, you can make a drinking game.

1636
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,640
The amount of times that they're like, we can't do

1637
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,359
that because that's exactly what the entity would want us

1638
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:14,600
to do.

1639
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:15,119
Speaker 1: So we have.

1640
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 2: And I was so annoyed by in Dead Reckoning part one,

1641
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,680
and I'm like, I fucking hate this enemy, Like like

1642
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,880
there was situations resulted from the entity in this movie

1643
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,399
that I enjoyed, but the whole idea of it being

1644
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,640
the entity, and like I get it, AI is a

1645
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,880
big thing right now that that's a big just question

1646
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,800
on like what's gonna happen If AI is in a

1647
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,880
situation where they can just kind of be self aware

1648
01:15:39,039 --> 01:15:43,279
and like make these decisions, it is relevant, but it's

1649
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:47,039
still not really entertaining to me for an impossible mission,

1650
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:50,800
but for the ultimate final mission, like who else is

1651
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,000
gonna be? Like are we gonna have a character? Like

1652
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,000
I already forgot his name again the chat from Ghost Protocol,

1653
01:15:57,039 --> 01:15:59,760
the Syndicate guy, like like it, like would that be

1654
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,199
better having like a human in this situation where it's

1655
01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:03,760
just like the whole world?

1656
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:08,039
Speaker 1: Honestly, I would rather of Gabriel been a great hacker.

1657
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:10,439
I would have preferred that. And for me, it's also

1658
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,680
just because like I feel like AI is like a

1659
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,680
COVID thing where I think we're gonna get so many

1660
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,760
movies in the next ten years about AI, and I

1661
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,600
get it right, there's bad things about AI. It's taking

1662
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,239
over to I get that. It's just like COVID, I understand,

1663
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:24,119
but I just feel like it's gonna be done to death,

1664
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:26,680
especially because AI. It's like I someone to say, there

1665
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,199
in the car, it's like that's been around since it's

1666
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,279
a fucking terminator, like the idea of A. It's not

1667
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:32,960
like a new at least COVID. I understand producers being like, oh,

1668
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:35,399
new concept, it hit our world, but like A, it's

1669
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,239
like we've like blade around, like there's so many big

1670
01:16:38,279 --> 01:16:40,800
franchise that tackle this, but now because it's very popular

1671
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,479
and timely, I would rather just like, yeah, Gabriel like

1672
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,720
has an advice called the entity, but it's not like

1673
01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:49,680
a working, living being like I would have rather than

1674
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,680
just put all that time into Gabriel and do that

1675
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,840
in Dead Reckoning. I already thought that in Dead Reckoning,

1676
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,399
but I thought that here, but in this one, like

1677
01:16:57,399 --> 01:17:00,800
we talked about before strapping, because it's all entity. Like

1678
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:03,479
I thought that Ethan hunting when he talks to him

1679
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,119
was gonna be like in the finale, No it's for

1680
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:09,359
like twenty five minutes in and they're talking Ethan hunts

1681
01:17:09,359 --> 01:17:12,119
like getting fucking like assaulted by the thing, and it's

1682
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:15,840
showing him and I just hate that. It's like he

1683
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,680
like it, like literally can just read Ethan's mind, which

1684
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,520
I don't understand. And Ethan's not saying anything like it can't.

1685
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,960
He's not a fucking like Professor X the entity. It's

1686
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,399
like I understand the oh, I got this equation, but

1687
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,880
to be like I know Luther's working on the poison killed,

1688
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,279
It's like, how do you know that?

1689
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: It seems every possible Ouki is a superper computer.

1690
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:37,079
Speaker 1: I get, but it's just like it's and he should

1691
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:40,359
but he should show him literally like visuals of Ethan's mind.

1692
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,239
And like again, this movie at times is obsessed with

1693
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:47,039
like destruction porn because they show you the world like, oh,

1694
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:50,800
here's here's what it looks like, don't get shows you

1695
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,800
the nuclear stuff like as sorry, I just saw this

1696
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,119
all behind her last year. And that's a movie where

1697
01:17:55,119 --> 01:17:57,039
that is three hours. That's where if anyone wants to

1698
01:17:57,039 --> 01:17:59,119
pick oh you just don't like the conversations movie, No,

1699
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,600
Albenheimer's three hours just people talking that's some of the

1700
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,800
most gripping movie that I've ever seen, the hour and

1701
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,479
a half here where it's like a lot of jargon.

1702
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,359
It's like there's just so much stuff they don't need

1703
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:09,119
to talk about.

1704
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:12,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, like last I could just keep complaining about

1705
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,039
the entity and it being a villain. But like the

1706
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:16,720
last thing I'll say on it is just the idea

1707
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,000
of it being a godlike being that's seen every single

1708
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,720
outcome and it's like, cavile, how do we win? Like seriously,

1709
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,520
like like it controls it, baby, we put in barricades

1710
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,600
to make an entertaining movie, Like we've already talked about

1711
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,760
with the countdown, Like technically it doesn't really like it

1712
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,279
doesn't need all of the arsenal of the war of

1713
01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:39,279
the world to bring it down. What's the stats. It's

1714
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:41,319
like we have enough nukes in the whole world to

1715
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,000
like just blow up the world like sixty thousand times,

1716
01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:47,920
whatever the fuck it is. But like it just it's

1717
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,920
just so ridiculous how powerful this thing is to get

1718
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,520
to a point that we beat it. I feel like

1719
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,239
that's unbelievable with how they set up this character or

1720
01:18:57,399 --> 01:19:00,039
the character being the entity of it just being this

1721
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:01,000
godlike thing.

1722
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:03,119
Speaker 1: Let's stay because we haven't done what we've been ranting.

1723
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:04,720
Let's take an ad break and we'll be right back

1724
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,880
for more entity talk. I imagine. All right, we're back,

1725
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:11,199
and here's the thing. So let's say the entity succeeds

1726
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:14,680
right newkes the entire planet. What does it do after

1727
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,720
people are dead? They can't repopulate.

1728
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 2: It waits for the planet of the Apes to take over,

1729
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,439
and then that that'll be its new citizens essentially, right,

1730
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,119
because it's in the bunker for like thousands of years,

1731
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:24,800
they say.

1732
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: Charleston has some lands and he has to deal.

1733
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:33,319
Speaker 3: With It's the same thing as Age of Ultron, right,

1734
01:19:33,399 --> 01:19:35,640
like just cleanse the earth and then start from scratch.

1735
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,840
Like even they'll say it in here, like there will

1736
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,279
be survivors. Is not going to be every human that dies,

1737
01:19:40,319 --> 01:19:42,800
and those survivors will come out, and the entity is

1738
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,720
saying to need them.

1739
01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: They say that, but when the bombs come, and it's

1740
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,760
only the entity that's in that bunker that can survive

1741
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,159
for thousands of years, even if a couple of humans

1742
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:54,479
make it through there, Like, no, they're not sitting in

1743
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,520
that bunker and reproducing for thousands of years with the

1744
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,479
entity Like there's no way. Uh, it's I feel like

1745
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,279
that's just a plot hole honestly in the movie that

1746
01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:04,439
they set up that it has these loyal followers that

1747
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,920
will be obeying the entity moving forward. It's gonna be

1748
01:20:08,039 --> 01:20:13,640
like radiation roaches ruling the planet afterwards.

1749
01:20:14,279 --> 01:20:18,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's I don't care. We're doing the rankings

1750
01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:22,279
last or next week, but like, yeah, dead fucking last

1751
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:26,520
the entity for villains like like Miles, Miles, like, I'll

1752
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,520
take I've had sewn Archer fucking come back and catch

1753
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,319
some more scarves before I had.

1754
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 2: The entity again, you know, like is that the mission

1755
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:34,600
impossible to go?

1756
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like fuck, at least he could do the masks

1757
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,560
and he was some fun and whatnot, like have him

1758
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,520
flirt with Haley at well, I don't know, but it's

1759
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,560
just like, yeah, I'm the entity. Is just what makes

1760
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,560
it so tough to rewatch these two in particular for me,

1761
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,079
and that's the thing. We're deadreckoning again. Dead Reckoning for

1762
01:20:52,119 --> 01:20:55,079
me is far superior than this one. But this because

1763
01:20:55,279 --> 01:20:58,680
so heavy entity and everything is entity. It's just they

1764
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,800
doubt and here stupid me. Hey, when we got that

1765
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,880
first teaser and the entity, it was barely and I

1766
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,600
was like, oh, maybe, Yeah, it starts with him destroying

1767
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,279
the entity in act one and then the it's just

1768
01:21:09,319 --> 01:21:12,239
Gabriel or something else, right, But no, the entity is

1769
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:16,960
there the whole time, and uh, yeah, it's it's brutal,

1770
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:19,239
but at least something we can talk about. It's not brutal.

1771
01:21:19,399 --> 01:21:21,039
We're kind of jumping all over, but we'll go to

1772
01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:24,119
the uh the submarine scene because one, I just want

1773
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:26,039
to say this before I forget. This is where I

1774
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:27,680
felt like I was watching a superhero movie at the

1775
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,520
very end, because I was like, there's no fucking way

1776
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,840
Ethan Hunt would ever survive this, not in a million,

1777
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,760
Like how far down he is, how cold, Like it's

1778
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,279
not just even that far down, he'd still die. But

1779
01:21:39,359 --> 01:21:42,920
this is freezing like arctic water. This is water that

1780
01:21:43,079 --> 01:21:46,119
like if you fall down in and close for a

1781
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:49,680
few minutes, you're gonna be fucking dead. This man is naked,

1782
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:51,640
he is well, I guess he's not rock hard because's

1783
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,520
ice cold, but he is fucking he's shriveled up. Yeah,

1784
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,479
he probably is rock I fucking love almost time. But

1785
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,439
like he is in this water like other than bass

1786
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,159
for multiple minutes and of course they revive them. And

1787
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:06,039
I could just see, like, hey, can you see a

1788
01:22:06,039 --> 01:22:09,239
scene where Haley at just fucking cuddles me for five minutes.

1789
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Before that when she's doing CPR and the camera is

1790
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:14,640
like dead center on her cleavage.

1791
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:19,079
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because it's just.

1792
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: At that so hard. I'm just.

1793
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:28,520
Speaker 1: Is it dies? It fell us? It just felt like

1794
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,520
somebody like I don't think it is, but just felt like, man,

1795
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,079
how could we get get Haley? I would rub her

1796
01:22:35,079 --> 01:22:39,359
boobs all over me? And that's what this decression chamber

1797
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:39,640
when you.

1798
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:48,319
Speaker 4: Like and you got fucking am I guy's wife just

1799
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,680
watching touching herself many I.

1800
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: Like to watch He's like winking at him at the.

1801
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been if that was a great reveal that

1802
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,600
Luther is still alive. Ethan turned over and he was

1803
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,159
like in Luther's b goes teething, holding.

1804
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,199
Speaker 2: Up, he's picturing Haley. I will like kissing him in

1805
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:06,920
the water.

1806
01:23:09,159 --> 01:23:21,119
Speaker 1: Sick mouth your taste anyway, So again I'm of two

1807
01:23:21,159 --> 01:23:23,079
minds where when he flows the ice and they flip it,

1808
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,920
fantastic shot. It all visually looks good in my mind,

1809
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,159
I'm like I can't. This for me was jumping the strike.

1810
01:23:28,199 --> 01:23:28,880
I can't believe it.

1811
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 3: But I didn't know that was Haley Well. I thought

1812
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,920
that it was his wife Julie from the trailers.

1813
01:23:34,319 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: I didn't. I actually do know who it was. I

1814
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,119
thought it could have been fergus Of, but no, it

1815
01:23:37,119 --> 01:23:39,239
was Hailey Apwell because that's his ultimate love who he

1816
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:40,920
doesn't even end up win the movie. They just give

1817
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,079
another head on and they fucking pimp off, like see

1818
01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:45,520
you next time. It's like, all right, but yeah, this

1819
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,960
sub scene and also too big. Shout out to the

1820
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,920
score here, because I think the scene would work out

1821
01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:52,760
great by itself still, but this is something to me

1822
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,960
movie making one on one where a score enhances the scene.

1823
01:23:57,159 --> 01:23:59,720
Miles and Miles, because this felt like and it does

1824
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,760
shouldn't at all. This felt like a horror movie. When

1825
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,840
this scene was happening, you think, fucking an alien. Her

1826
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,199
prayer is gonna pup like the way they're framing, and

1827
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,680
it's literally just like the fear is water and inclose

1828
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,520
of me Kirk talk about a couple of casks or whatever.

1829
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,359
It's like that Anthhobi or whatever where I'm fucking scared

1830
01:24:16,399 --> 01:24:19,640
of not claustrophobia, but the idea of tight spaces. When

1831
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,119
he opened up that fucking hatch and it was like

1832
01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:23,159
narrow like that and.

1833
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Went to his point of view and I'm like, oh

1834
01:24:25,039 --> 01:24:25,399
my god.

1835
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: And then later on when he's in there and the

1836
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,920
waters gets me, I'm like my skin was crawling. I

1837
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,800
was like, fuck, And is this is Shay like claustrophobic.

1838
01:24:33,399 --> 01:24:36,399
Speaker 2: Because she wasn't watching, Yeah, she said that scene was

1839
01:24:36,399 --> 01:24:39,159
was totally freaking out. And I said, for me, like,

1840
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:40,560
I feel like I was getting more of that effect

1841
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,880
from the plane sequence, just like some of the aerial shots.

1842
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,279
I was getting a little who But she She's like,

1843
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,399
I'll die fallen, free falling, But to just be trapped

1844
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,319
in like a water like that, it's like, yeah.

1845
01:24:52,359 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: If you have to ask me, hey, how are you

1846
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,880
gonna die? Do you want to die the way that

1847
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Gabriel's friend does or he gets knocked out and then

1848
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,840
he gets and he's probably like mid wakes up and

1849
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:03,279
just like he's falling, Or do you want to dive

1850
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:05,800
by being like crushed by missiles or water in a

1851
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,319
small little pipe like no, oh no, that's a clause. Fuck,

1852
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:14,720
I gotta find it. But anyways, Uh yeah, ten ten

1853
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,680
out of ten sequence that was just outstanding. Uh what

1854
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,439
the fuck? Oh yeah, I could never say this. I

1855
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,920
don't think we ever figured it out. It's not anthobia.

1856
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,159
Hang on, I'll put in the comments here. I got it.

1857
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:30,399
But what is this the.

1858
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that we're laughing about that name Cliff Throat.

1859
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it's like a sexual thing. But

1860
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:40,840
it's like, yeah, and that's where this was. And man,

1861
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,399
just the sub moving all the time, and I would

1862
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,520
that's something that I can't see behind the scenes of.

1863
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,399
I know they probably built this set, but like the

1864
01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:50,880
way it turns in the water dynamics and even then too,

1865
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,920
it's like these things falling from the roof. Oh yeah,

1866
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,000
those are fucking like missiles that you don't know, could

1867
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,239
maybe like explode like this was. And this was something

1868
01:25:58,279 --> 01:25:59,800
where I was like, man, they need to make a

1869
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:03,239
mission impossible video game because this felt like, uh, this

1870
01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:05,319
felt like in a video game you got everyone talked

1871
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:07,800
about like, oh the fucking sub level. This is this

1872
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,840
Like no, no, it's like outstanding all round. You know.

1873
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: It reminded me of Inception when they're in the hallway. Uh.

1874
01:26:14,119 --> 01:26:16,520
Joseph Gordon Levitt and like it's just rotating. Then you

1875
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,319
see behind the scenes and they actually like had like

1876
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,319
it rotating, and yeah, it looked like that's exactly what

1877
01:26:23,359 --> 01:26:25,600
they had going on. And I feel like in those moments,

1878
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,399
I can sometimes get a little like, well, I'm getting

1879
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:29,880
a little nauseous, but like it just worked. It just

1880
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,920
visually looked really good. I'm sure it was incredible in

1881
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,439
imax and A one hundred percent agree with you. I

1882
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,039
think this is one where like the score was just

1883
01:26:37,119 --> 01:26:40,600
adding so much tension and like I was sweaty palms,

1884
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,279
Like I was so nervous. I knew he was gonna

1885
01:26:43,319 --> 01:26:45,199
make it out. But like even when he gets out

1886
01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:46,840
of the sub and you just have the big fucking

1887
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,880
Russian thing looking at him, I'm like, oh my god,

1888
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,920
like that that's terrifying him itself. Like that feels like

1889
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,680
a sea monster just there. And then like he gets

1890
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,960
close to the the fucking spinner thing. Wow, I don't

1891
01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:04,840
my burn propeller. Yeah, Like like he's like close to

1892
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,600
the edge and I'm like we're like we're like halfway

1893
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,159
through this movie. I know he's living, but still I

1894
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:12,279
was like, man, like this is just building to the

1895
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:14,720
intensity and that's not even that's not even when he

1896
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,840
gets to the sub let like you know, let alone

1897
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,439
and then all the all the other factors in play there.

1898
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,199
So I think that was Yeah, we saw it in

1899
01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:24,880
the trailers. I was excited for that moment, but they

1900
01:27:25,319 --> 01:27:28,600
knocked out of the park pretty much from like the like,

1901
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,039
I just really like the sequence, even from when he

1902
01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:34,279
jumps out of the helicopter, uh and then like meets

1903
01:27:34,319 --> 01:27:35,079
the sub crew.

1904
01:27:35,359 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: You like the whole sequence.

1905
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,520
Speaker 2: I laughed so hard in that moment I did. I

1906
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,960
did like it like it's it's chucky, it's chucky. I

1907
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:47,920
was chuck a lan the way it happens when he

1908
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,079
just shocks him there, but just like yeah, when he's

1909
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:53,079
in the water and then they just fucking appear all

1910
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:55,680
around him, It's like it's like when Bruce Wayne goes

1911
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,960
to meet like the the League of Shadows of sort

1912
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,399
of thing. I'm like, oh, these are just the water

1913
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,279
people ready to claim the hobby. But it's like, okay,

1914
01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:05,880
it's the Special Forces, like they're they're they're they're taking

1915
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,199
them in there. I didn't like the assassination attempt. I

1916
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:12,399
don't think that was necessarily uh necessary.

1917
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,319
Speaker 3: What does Tom Cruise say again, like you watch too

1918
01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:16,880
many YouTube videos, Matt or whatever.

1919
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,319
Speaker 1: He says, you're on the internet too much. It's like,

1920
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,600
oh boy, again, this is a movie that's clearly dead serious.

1921
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,840
It's like, this is not the time. And yeah, again

1922
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,239
they make it that I'm I know Kirkle is not

1923
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:28,800
because he's in like the Man Lauren episode. I'm a

1924
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,079
big fan of Katie O'Brien. I was bummed she wasn't

1925
01:28:31,079 --> 01:28:33,880
in this more she's a jack chicked in the sub Yeah.

1926
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: I really liked her in this. I was wanting more

1927
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,199
of her for sure.

1928
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:39,039
Speaker 1: Again watch at some point. God, I can't remember the

1929
01:28:39,079 --> 01:28:41,399
movie she did with her and Kristen Stewart. I'll find

1930
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,000
it before it ends here. But she's fantastic in that

1931
01:28:45,159 --> 01:28:47,560
she's a bodybuilder and like it's like a romance but

1932
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:48,800
it's like a crime words.

1933
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: Like really good Season two Last of Us. Now, Kate

1934
01:28:53,319 --> 01:28:56,079
is great. You know, she's a great actress.

1935
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,159
Speaker 1: Especially in the movie. I'm going to figure out what

1936
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,479
it is. But like, like I said, like there is

1937
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,640
Adri o'drana from uh what's her name? And or but

1938
01:29:04,199 --> 01:29:05,880
this lady's just on top of my list too. As

1939
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,439
far as being oh love lies bleeding her long hair.

1940
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,880
I'm like, that's my fucking Diana Prince, like I want

1941
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,159
as the next one woman. For some reason though, I'm

1942
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:15,800
sure it was like a I don't know the tom

1943
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,920
Cruise note or inner note or whoever decides to make

1944
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,920
Ethan hunt cool just to me want and made sure like,

1945
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,920
oh this girl would like to fuck Ethan. You know,

1946
01:29:23,039 --> 01:29:24,319
like all like so much.

1947
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:27,279
Speaker 2: Like winking at each other. Yeah, it was strange when

1948
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:29,960
you're like, oh, why do we need gases like classified?

1949
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,399
They're like, oh, yeah, right, we're all secret. We all

1950
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:33,079
even the look.

1951
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,319
Speaker 1: They give it each other at the end, they like,

1952
01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:36,039
look at it and don't lose my suit, like she

1953
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:38,560
may as well just gave him a cock slap, like

1954
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,680
come on boy. Like, but again, I like her a lot.

1955
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,279
I want to be one of them, want to be

1956
01:29:43,359 --> 01:29:47,039
more stuff go on Ethan. But the only thing I

1957
01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:49,600
would to cut is I I would take the taser.

1958
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,000
I thought the taser was a little comedic. I would

1959
01:29:52,039 --> 01:29:53,600
just cut the black and then you go, oh, what's

1960
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,279
going on the taser? I don't know why, because we

1961
01:29:56,359 --> 01:29:59,159
all ad it just something. I just thought it was

1962
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:05,359
we just squading it was just the timing. But I

1963
01:30:05,359 --> 01:30:06,680
guess I don't know, makes you think.

1964
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:11,359
Speaker 2: It's the Russians for a second they just kill him. Yeah, Yeah,

1965
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:15,000
I didn't love the assassination attempt. Is I get entities everywhere,

1966
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,520
but in that moment, it seemed a little bit unnecessary

1967
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:17,920
and like.

1968
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 1: Cruiser Jacks got it. Sorry Cruiserknjack.

1969
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,319
Speaker 2: Though, I was gonna say, man, like sixty three years old,

1970
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,439
whatever's at Like he was looking good in his undies,

1971
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,279
just like muscle definition every like, yeah.

1972
01:30:30,079 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 1: That's why the scene is in there. He's like, I

1973
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,840
look fucking good, and we're gonna show it off. We're

1974
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,479
gonna he's gonna wrestle me in my boxers, you know.

1975
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 2: And we're gonna do rudo dick grabs. You know, We're

1976
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:39,880
going full butt ass.

1977
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: He's in the tank later and I'm here too.

1978
01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:43,279
Speaker 3: Oh.

1979
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Actually reminded the whole team.

1980
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Imagine the whole team was in the compression tank with them.

1981
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,720
You know, we're team Ethan anyways.

1982
01:30:49,039 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: And Big Raims and there just him.

1983
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

1984
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 2: The one sequence that I I I, well, I guess

1985
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,800
it's not the only sequence, but a moment in the

1986
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:02,079
sub that was really bothering me is when he gets

1987
01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:05,319
in there, and you know, I work with electricity a lot.

1988
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:08,880
It's dangerous. One of the probably most dangerous things electricity

1989
01:31:09,239 --> 01:31:12,079
is water. And he is waist deep and he's like

1990
01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:15,479
opening up like a main feeder box. I can see

1991
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:21,119
like the bare massive warnings. It shows the bot exactly exactly,

1992
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,479
and like he's grabbing like the lugs that are just exposed,

1993
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,840
which would be live and it's like in water. He

1994
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,840
just plugs it in the device. It's like fully charged.

1995
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:35,600
I'm like, okay, military military tech, yeah, yeah, exactly was

1996
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,439
It's like, well, maybe they just have some submarine tech,

1997
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,920
you know, to make the're probably coded and rubber, and

1998
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,640
it's like, am I really gonna pick this apart?

1999
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 1: When like why is the warning if it's coded and rubber,

2000
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,800
why is the warning there.

2001
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,119
Speaker 2: Rubber but not the part that's making the connection, Like

2002
01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:52,199
come on, come.

2003
01:31:52,039 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: On, there's it's electric bolt with a man dying due

2004
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,000
to electricity. It's like, be careful past it.

2005
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,159
Speaker 2: It's movie magic. But for me, that was like to

2006
01:32:01,239 --> 01:32:03,560
jump the Shark moment, but but like the one real

2007
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,840
jump the Shark suicide is the moment when when he

2008
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,600
takes off the suit and everything and again like you said, like, yeah, frostbite, hypotherma,

2009
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,439
his muscles should be like contracting. All the things that

2010
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,840
they told them would be happening is just not happening

2011
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,680
at all in these moments. And they're like, whatever you do.

2012
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,039
And I learned this, which I didn't know this was

2013
01:32:22,079 --> 01:32:24,119
the thing, but when you're scuba diving, you have to

2014
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:26,640
breathe normally because if you hold your breath, your lungs

2015
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:31,159
will literally explode from the decompression. And he's like just

2016
01:32:31,159 --> 01:32:36,159
just getting maybe to play Devil's Advocate to myself is like, well,

2017
01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:38,880
he drowns, so the water goes into his lungs. So

2018
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,880
the difference maybe it doesn't really.

2019
01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: Like maybe I just thought he drowned like way too

2020
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,800
Like he drowned it like right at the top of

2021
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,720
the ice already. Like that's the thing where it's like

2022
01:32:48,039 --> 01:32:50,840
he was he was far down that he needed a

2023
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,159
fucking jet pack to get him that down low. But no,

2024
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:57,239
Ethan Hunt with his legs and arms can swim back

2025
01:32:57,319 --> 01:32:59,359
up and like it's not like the other movies, like

2026
01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:02,800
remember in Rogue Nation where he does that watery stunt,

2027
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:06,000
But that's like he's like getting ready. He's working on

2028
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,239
his breathing. He's been in the sub he's moving right.

2029
01:33:08,279 --> 01:33:11,439
This man's probably exhausted, but nah, he can hold his

2030
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,159
second breath. And I don't know, maybe I'm I don't

2031
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:17,600
think I'm being out of the realm, possibly thousands of

2032
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,359
feet above like from where the sub.

2033
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Remember he's pulled down by a few hundred feet more too, yes.

2034
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Which is if they said the suit can go down

2035
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,439
like three hundred, but they've never tested it past that point,

2036
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,800
which is well past that point because that's where the

2037
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,079
submarine is. And like I knew he was gonna take

2038
01:33:33,079 --> 01:33:34,640
the mask off at some point, but I'm like, hey,

2039
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,840
maybe halfway up and then no, no, like right light

2040
01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:41,079
and like the subs taking him further down than where

2041
01:33:41,079 --> 01:33:41,680
it initially.

2042
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: He was great moment though, when he thinks he's gone

2043
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,199
and catches the bag. I thought that was very classic.

2044
01:33:47,279 --> 01:33:49,560
Am I like, oh you thought he completely mission? No,

2045
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,319
he's going and just that faces Tom cruise and again

2046
01:33:52,359 --> 01:33:55,319
it's all as long as you like, that's where you've

2047
01:33:55,359 --> 01:33:56,880
just throw out the lodging of that stuff. It's like

2048
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,920
if this is Captain America, You're like, oh, this is

2049
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,039
completely fine because he's like super soldier shit, right, But

2050
01:34:01,039 --> 01:34:04,000
this is Ethan sixty year old Ethan Hunt, who would

2051
01:34:04,039 --> 01:34:06,800
have massive ct too at this point, like all this stuff.

2052
01:34:07,039 --> 01:34:09,840
But like, nah, he's he's fine. It's like it's like

2053
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,840
the top even Tom gun right, that's the thing where

2054
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,920
it's like in real life he would not be a

2055
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,239
lot like being that age. That would none of us

2056
01:34:16,199 --> 01:34:18,880
would happen. He couldn't do any of this. But you know,

2057
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:24,000
Ethan Hunt, Maverick, Tom Cruise, it just defies all fucking

2058
01:34:24,039 --> 01:34:29,319
bodily fluids and whatnot. So uh, Taylor, anything on the submarine.

2059
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,399
Speaker 3: Before move them, Like you guys already highlighted. It's a

2060
01:34:31,399 --> 01:34:34,520
fantastic sequence. I absolutely loved it, and I like how

2061
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,760
when it starts off, when he jumps off the off

2062
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,479
spray into the ocean, it just feels like the opposite

2063
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:45,439
of claustrophobic. It feels open and I like it just exposed.

2064
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,479
He's just there, the waves are really really big, and

2065
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,319
it's like, man, well, what the fuck are you supposed

2066
01:34:49,319 --> 01:34:51,399
to do now? This feels like this is not the

2067
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,119
situation you want to be in because like it's just

2068
01:34:54,199 --> 01:34:58,199
it's just so it's so much open mass here, open volume,

2069
01:34:58,319 --> 01:35:00,600
and yeah, just the way though, those die just pop

2070
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,960
up behind him. He doesn't even notice, and then it

2071
01:35:03,079 --> 01:35:05,359
cuts to the change of scenes and there's another one

2072
01:35:05,359 --> 01:35:07,319
behind him, and then they tased him. I like that.

2073
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,880
But yeah, everything on the submarine I enjoyed. I liked

2074
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,159
this captain guy working with him, like you want to

2075
01:35:15,159 --> 01:35:17,680
poke the bear, I'm the guy you want to poke

2076
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:24,119
it with, or whatever something like that. Yeah. I really

2077
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:26,079
really like their their friendship. That was a lot of fun.

2078
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:29,720
But after that and him getting suited up and the

2079
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,880
assassination attempt, yeah I didn't didn't like that that much.

2080
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,800
But yeah, him getting suited up and then being out there,

2081
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:37,439
holy shit, it was just it was super super tense

2082
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,520
him going through that submarine and just going through all

2083
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,079
the different latches or like hallways and stuff, and then

2084
01:35:43,159 --> 01:35:45,479
seeing like the frozen dead bodies and the corpses. Got

2085
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,640
another recap there of the crew in a scene, and

2086
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,319
then yeah, him just you know, okay, like the time

2087
01:35:52,399 --> 01:35:54,359
is ticking now because this thing is starting to roll.

2088
01:35:54,399 --> 01:35:58,199
He's got to get the Podkova gets it that that'd

2089
01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:00,800
be a drinking game every time. Fucking Gabriel says Punkov.

2090
01:36:01,239 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking me, come to me.

2091
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 3: It will come to me. But yeah, when you guys

2092
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,640
already highlighted it. When he gets out and he has

2093
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,359
to go through that tube and he's just he's almost

2094
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:16,880
naked and submarine catches on his mask and I don't know,

2095
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,800
I don't know how he survives. It baffles me, really

2096
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,479
really baffles me. But it was just such a fantastic scene.

2097
01:36:25,079 --> 01:36:27,720
Fantastic scene stuff with submarines. You don't really get a

2098
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,039
lot of that and like submarine action, but it's it

2099
01:36:30,119 --> 01:36:30,800
is pretty cool.

2100
01:36:32,319 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could ever do that life.

2101
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:38,399
That's just crazy. You're just underneath Antarctica wherever the fuck

2102
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,840
they are classified all the time, just breathing air that

2103
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,119
you recycle for farts and stuff, and people are smelling

2104
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:45,640
and sweaty.

2105
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: But do you mean the life of like a spy?

2106
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:53,159
Speaker 2: That too is probably horrible? Submarine submarine like, yeah, I'm

2107
01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:55,600
not really claustrophobic, but like just being trapped in there

2108
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,760
with that loll like, I feel like I would just

2109
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:57,479
go stir crazy.

2110
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,279
Speaker 1: But could you do the spy life?

2111
01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:01,279
Speaker 2: No, I would be bad.

2112
01:37:02,319 --> 01:37:04,399
Speaker 1: I could have at one point, I could have high

2113
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,680
school and yeah, if I would have got caught some

2114
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,720
some sex toys like you've heard I m F and

2115
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,039
like I guess, so like.

2116
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,520
Speaker 6: Here's your mission, Bildo, yeah's to the clubs.

2117
01:37:20,319 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean this one was just for you. But uh yeah, yeah,

2118
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:29,119
I think before meeting like a long term girlfriend and kids.

2119
01:37:29,159 --> 01:37:31,920
Absolutely no, I can't leave now, but before yeah.

2120
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I have some spisms in me

2121
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:36,680
like Cloak and Digger a little bit.

2122
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, driving would have been an issue for me.

2123
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,760
It's like, well I need a driver, I need that

2124
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,199
going on. So before I forget when again, Jerem Renner,

2125
01:37:44,279 --> 01:37:46,159
I was disappointed. I thought we might get a scene

2126
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:49,800
then happen. You know, he would have been perfect obviously

2127
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,880
they had it, would have wrote some stuff whatever, if

2128
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:54,520
you could have been a mission, would have been perfect

2129
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:55,359
to be in the present.

2130
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,399
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, definitely. I didn't really think of him

2131
01:37:59,399 --> 01:38:02,079
too much on like during the film, but in hindsight now,

2132
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:05,239
especially this being the final chapter and he wasn't there

2133
01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:07,880
for the whole franchise, but I think he's like big

2134
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,079
character for his use he.

2135
01:38:09,279 --> 01:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Carried over which a lot of those team members didn't right,

2136
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:16,560
like like before Rebecca we had then and then Simon

2137
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,279
Pegg and then him right now, Haley Atwill she carried

2138
01:38:19,319 --> 01:38:21,640
over an even Palm, but like that's just now in the.

2139
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: Past two movies though.

2140
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's just brand now, right, he was

2141
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,800
just too. But to me, it's like a little bit

2142
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,960
different because like Palm and Haley were part of originally

2143
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,000
a part one, Part two, right they changed it, Like

2144
01:38:33,239 --> 01:38:36,000
to me, that was dedicated where Brandt he continued on

2145
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:38,720
in vain. So it's like, yeah, I was hoping to

2146
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,640
be a little something, but no, we got especially.

2147
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 2: That Brandt's role evolved amongst the movies, right, like it's

2148
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,560
it's okay, our crew changes, but like he's he's like

2149
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,760
a higher up now, like he's he would be in

2150
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,520
that situation, especially that he's dealt with imm, he's dealt

2151
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,319
with Ethan, he's dealt with the CIA and all these

2152
01:38:56,359 --> 01:38:59,800
other factors. So yeah, that is U I don't know,

2153
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,640
maybe that just was something. Was that something that they

2154
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,319
just never planned to have. I mean, he wasn't in

2155
01:39:04,359 --> 01:39:05,159
Part one, but.

2156
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: Remember he was planning to take over from Tom Cruise

2157
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,800
and that didn't happen, so I well.

2158
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I'm just like also with his

2159
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:15,800
his tragic access, that was the factor that they're maybe

2160
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,079
thinking about bringing him back, but obviously circumstances didn't allow

2161
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:22,279
him to do that. Yeah, just start Patreon's.

2162
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Glad to have him as a Patreon for Yes, you

2163
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,680
can join after nine any time. Jeremy Wren will have

2164
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:26,319
you on there.

2165
01:39:26,359 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: You know, last thing I wanted to say on the

2166
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:32,520
submarine thing was the captain who I really liked. I

2167
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,159
thought he was really fun. I was expected to just

2168
01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:37,000
be like a hard ass all through it. I kind

2169
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,079
of liked this little little trickster side that he had

2170
01:39:40,119 --> 01:39:42,399
to him, you know, when he's like, yeah, you poked

2171
01:39:42,399 --> 01:39:47,079
the bear. Thought this was the president's son. Because the

2172
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:49,239
reason why I thought it was we have a moment

2173
01:39:49,239 --> 01:39:51,560
between Angela Vesset and she's like looking at a photo

2174
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,960
of her son who in the moment I thought it

2175
01:39:54,039 --> 01:39:57,159
was her husband. I'm like, oh, yeah, she's she's got

2176
01:39:57,159 --> 01:39:59,159
a hot piece of ass here. This this is young

2177
01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:01,000
in here. But no, it was revealed it was just

2178
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:05,960
your son. And she meant mentions that likestol President.

2179
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:13,039
Speaker 6: Just ask everyone, Madam President, you have your son your.

2180
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Sister Ethan foxist all the time. You know, I don't, Luther,

2181
01:40:18,199 --> 01:40:18,800
It's not a thing.

2182
01:40:19,279 --> 01:40:21,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, like we get we got her. Look at

2183
01:40:21,319 --> 01:40:23,720
the photo. Someone asked, like, have you seen your son lately?

2184
01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:26,960
It's like a thing. And then it's revealed that she

2185
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:32,760
knows what's the actress's name, Hannah, Hannah something. She's like

2186
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,840
the captain of the George. Yeah.

2187
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Another I liked her. But another thing, you're just cut

2188
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,680
from the movie completely. I know what this date means.

2189
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,399
Just got him on the just get him on the sub.

2190
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,359
Speaker 2: I didn't mind that because if it's not you know,

2191
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,399
but I liked it because it's like this date was

2192
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,119
significant because we lost someone because the higher ups were

2193
01:40:55,159 --> 01:40:58,319
not willing to like look through the and like that's

2194
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:00,760
what they're doing right now, essentially to the.

2195
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,039
Speaker 1: Sub people, Ethan, why should we let you on the sub? Well,

2196
01:41:03,079 --> 01:41:03,880
here's his envelope.

2197
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's go to the United States. Like this

2198
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,479
is her seal. She's the one that sends Ethan. I agree,

2199
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,720
give it in this give it.

2200
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: No just even Ethan, just tie all the one that

2201
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:19,359
subplot of like from one to another. It's just like,

2202
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,840
why do we need to find a transport to get

2203
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,239
him to the sub that's transporting him to the other sub?

2204
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:25,960
Like too much transport?

2205
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 2: Well, fair enough. I know.

2206
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's too much transports. I mean it's

2207
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,640
it's a lot of it's a lot of scenes, but

2208
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,560
I mean the submarine, Like, would you just skip the

2209
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,800
whole boat scene and just put him on the submarine.

2210
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,119
Speaker 1: I'd put him on the scene when he's talking with

2211
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:44,680
the people, like the Russias is a tournament. Start him

2212
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,520
on when he's on the plane. Start him there. He's

2213
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,800
already good to go like that. You don't need any

2214
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:49,239
of the stuff.

2215
01:41:49,239 --> 01:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Fair enough her.

2216
01:41:50,399 --> 01:41:52,279
Speaker 1: I just don't think it adds much. Like sure, she's

2217
01:41:52,279 --> 01:41:55,079
in the monotage smiling. We did it. Good call in

2218
01:41:55,119 --> 01:41:57,640
the sun. I actually know, not a joke because my

2219
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,279
impression I thought, for second, he's gonna be Luther kid,

2220
01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:02,880
because they just did the Jim Phelps things. I was like, fuck,

2221
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,760
and he's gonna be like, oh, you knew my dad

2222
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,760
and I thought. But what I thought though that they

2223
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,000
were going to give him the scene where he has

2224
01:42:09,039 --> 01:42:12,279
to tell this guy's like his dad's dead, he doesn't know,

2225
01:42:12,319 --> 01:42:14,159
which I thought actually would have been like a fantastic

2226
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:16,960
scene of he. I wouldn't have wanted the idea of

2227
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,680
alwas Luthor's son, but I thought about that. Imagine this

2228
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,119
guy thinks, oh, yeah, you're Ethan Hunt. You're friends with

2229
01:42:22,119 --> 01:42:25,760
my dad, and he's up like that idea of because yeah,

2230
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,199
because already Ethan feels guilty about it. Oh they're going

2231
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:30,560
to tie it all together. That fuck. I had to

2232
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,119
tell this guy's son that he died because of me.

2233
01:42:33,279 --> 01:42:34,800
But no, he's just mister mister.

2234
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 2: Dad, like like like get back to what I was

2235
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,199
saying though, is like I like, I thought the captain

2236
01:42:41,239 --> 01:42:44,159
of the sub was Angela Bessett's like the president's son.

2237
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,359
And then she she clearly knows the leader, or not

2238
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,279
the leader, the captain of the of the the like

2239
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,880
they have of the bush. Yeah, that was the that

2240
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:55,319
was the boat.

2241
01:42:55,359 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Same George Bush, captain of bush Man.

2242
01:43:00,279 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 2: So they know each other through like personal ties. Like

2243
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,479
clearly this note is referencing this event, which is that

2244
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,079
like a significant date in the mission. Impossible because nineteen

2245
01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:11,279
ninety six, I know that's when the first movie came out.

2246
01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:13,359
Speaker 1: Okay, oh well yeah, I guess it could be something

2247
01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:15,000
like that. I think you meant like in the story.

2248
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:16,119
I don't remember anything.

2249
01:43:16,119 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a fun little easter egg,

2250
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,319
like that's when the first movie came out just because

2251
01:43:19,319 --> 01:43:20,840
I knew it came out in nineteenety.

2252
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Six, but Gabriel met the antity.

2253
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, like they know each other, and then she

2254
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,279
gives Hunt a necklace that he gives to the cap

2255
01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:32,439
of the boat. And then I'm like, oh, it's because

2256
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,439
they know each other. And then she knows her son,

2257
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,479
so then her son would know that the necklace means this,

2258
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,800
and I'm like, Okay, that makes sense. This is why

2259
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,319
we're all working together. All Nope, Nope, not at all.

2260
01:43:42,399 --> 01:43:45,039
And then I thought the whole movie that was her son.

2261
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,760
And then we get to the end and she comes

2262
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,840
off Air Force one and there's just that random man

2263
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,439
who just stands out and like it's a nice little scene.

2264
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,720
I guess, you know, yeah, remind you of what's important

2265
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,439
in life. But it's just like this is such a

2266
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,560
weird tie, Like, in hindsight, this isn't necessary at all.

2267
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:03,319
Speaker 1: No. At first too, I thought they were insinuating that

2268
01:44:03,399 --> 01:44:06,359
she chose to put on the town and that her

2269
01:44:06,399 --> 01:44:09,359
son was in because because she because she makes the

2270
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,399
city choice. And then that lady walks up, so though

2271
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,279
you want to call your son and she goes what

2272
01:44:13,359 --> 01:44:14,920
would I even say to him. So I'm like, oh

2273
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:22,359
my god, she like everybody, but like I'm like, oh

2274
01:44:22,399 --> 01:44:25,640
my gosh, she's bombing your son's city. But no, that's

2275
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,079
not what happened, just because obviously he's a soldier and

2276
01:44:28,079 --> 01:44:30,399
maybe wouldn't get it. But like, I think that's the

2277
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,479
last thing you're saying, is Mom, why'd you buy that?

2278
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,199
Like bomb the city? It's like the entire world's going

2279
01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:37,880
up in nukes. Like, I don't think i'd be grilled

2280
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,079
my mom's she's fucking in a room for three days.

2281
01:44:41,399 --> 01:44:43,000
I'm not gonna grill her on it. And they like

2282
01:44:43,039 --> 01:44:45,039
whatever she had to do, she had to fucking do

2283
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:46,880
in that room, you know, like that that's a situation

2284
01:44:47,039 --> 01:44:50,039
like your World War three and AI's taking over your world,

2285
01:44:50,079 --> 01:44:52,960
and be like, well, mom, why'd you do this? It's like, well,

2286
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:54,600
you know, like I get, but you know, she made

2287
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,239
the right choice, right, tried tuning off the nukes, decided

2288
01:44:57,279 --> 01:44:59,960
to go Gogan's violence, and they sent him as you can.

2289
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,920
I hope the other countries would do the same, right

2290
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:03,119
that everyone would just liked it.

2291
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:04,039
Speaker 2: It's the Dark Knight thing.

2292
01:45:04,279 --> 01:45:07,199
Speaker 1: Yes, prisoners decide, no, we're not killing the innocence instance, I had, No,

2293
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:09,239
we're not killing the prisoners. We're all fucking animals. We're

2294
01:45:09,279 --> 01:45:11,560
not you know, I won't live in the entities world,

2295
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,600
you know, So I get it. Yeah, like nice enough

2296
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,319
scene to show she the sun, but it's just very

2297
01:45:16,039 --> 01:45:19,279
you know, very and and like again, I like the

2298
01:45:19,359 --> 01:45:22,159
present stuff enough. But if you're to tell me, hey, trash,

2299
01:45:22,199 --> 01:45:24,239
I got a version without it, I wouldn't be like, oh,

2300
01:45:24,279 --> 01:45:25,439
I'm really missing that.

2301
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:29,079
Speaker 2: Like it's like it I liked it in intense, like

2302
01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:32,520
the tension of especially when they're in that room, the

2303
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,199
deaf con encounter or just going down and then like

2304
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,920
she even has that moment when it's like I think

2305
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,479
it's when she makes her decision, like yeah, I gave

2306
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,199
it to Hunt, like we're gonna just let him do

2307
01:45:42,199 --> 01:45:44,640
his mission. They're all like, you're fucking idiot, blah blah blah,

2308
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,239
and then they all kind of depart, and then she's

2309
01:45:46,319 --> 01:45:48,399
chatting with that one lady and it's like, yeah, it's

2310
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,880
gonna come to a moment when they they like snap

2311
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,880
or like whatever the hell they like. She says like

2312
01:45:53,039 --> 01:45:55,279
they're gonna disagree with me, and like that moment kind

2313
01:45:55,279 --> 01:45:57,239
of happens. I I thought it was gonna be niker

2314
01:45:57,239 --> 01:45:59,439
off from him just being I was so worried that

2315
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,880
he was just oh, yeah, well I'm gonna push the button,

2316
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,960
and he just like starts capping people hits the button.

2317
01:46:04,039 --> 01:46:05,640
So I am glad it went the route that it did.

2318
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,319
But I did like those presidents see. And it was

2319
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:12,159
also just great to have Angela Bassett like in this

2320
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:14,520
role again, because if she would have just been a

2321
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,920
CIA person like dealing with the president, I wouldn't have

2322
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,800
been as impactful. Like I like that we kind of

2323
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,479
had her as an antagonist. That would have been fun maybe,

2324
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,880
but I know, I liked her presence in Fallout being

2325
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,079
kind of an antagonist type character, you know, for for

2326
01:46:31,159 --> 01:46:33,720
what that situation's an evil person, but just for how

2327
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,279
that movie plays out, just kind of an antagonist to our heroes.

2328
01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:40,439
But having her here where like she is, like she

2329
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,079
makes a big decision, like she she saves a big

2330
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:46,600
chunk of population by not hitting that button right there,

2331
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,039
and it's just like, man, it's nice to have a

2332
01:46:48,039 --> 01:46:50,239
world leader that we can like really believe in and

2333
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,399
count on, you know, take us away from the reality

2334
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,640
of life and just the mayhem, what's actually going because

2335
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,079
this is reality. That button's pressed on day fucking one, you.

2336
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, that's the sad thing.

2337
01:47:01,039 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 2: Holy nightmode on Travis.

2338
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: Yep, yes, I agree, Yeah, no, I agree, gets pressed

2339
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:16,960
pretty quickly. But you know, we try and tell us

2340
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:21,439
some of the movies, don't do it? Did you take

2341
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,520
anymission possible? Don't do it?

2342
01:47:24,279 --> 01:47:27,239
Speaker 2: Random, random little note that pop my head. I want

2343
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:30,680
to forget about the moment. It's just like a thought

2344
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,960
that popped in my head. At the end, when Ethan's

2345
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:38,000
getting his uh, his final words from from Luther he survived,

2346
01:47:38,399 --> 01:47:40,479
and like the helicopters come in and there's just like

2347
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,000
a shot of like the like the machine gun or

2348
01:47:43,079 --> 01:47:45,399
just like aiming at hunts there.

2349
01:47:45,239 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: He is fucking light on that. Kids, you're just gonna

2350
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:51,640
be like do it.

2351
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:57,399
Speaker 2: And then just like Trace arounds worried that Jim Phelps

2352
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,000
Junior was gonna actually cap him there like I actually

2353
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:01,880
belle because like the way Kittrids looks at him, it's

2354
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,840
like we're tying off loose ends here, like like put

2355
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,039
it into it. I'm like, please do not. And Ethan

2356
01:48:07,119 --> 01:48:10,920
Hunter if it gets murdered by Jim Phelps's a strange son.

2357
01:48:11,279 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 1: I'll say my score is low. It's not a fail.

2358
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,399
But if they had just Jim Felt's son suit like

2359
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:21,319
assassinate him in the field, fail right there, as.

2360
01:48:21,239 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 2: Luther's voice is like in our heads, like I knew

2361
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:24,720
you had a brother.

2362
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Who's the mad Ethan? You always survive? Fuck Jim Phelps.

2363
01:48:28,199 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 6: He was a piece of sh remember that guy.

2364
01:48:33,159 --> 01:48:41,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always hated Jim Phelps junior bitch. I'm gonna

2365
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:41,560
kill Luther?

2366
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:42,119
Speaker 3: Where is he?

2367
01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:45,319
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's take when my be your last

2368
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:47,079
ad break and then we'll be right back.

2369
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: And we are back. Okay, what have we not talked about?

2370
01:48:52,039 --> 01:48:54,239
I think I said about it, but like I saw

2371
01:48:54,279 --> 01:48:58,079
Maddy in the comments say that too about where was it? Plain?

2372
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:00,680
Sequins looked awesome. Visual The son is a ten to ten,

2373
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,119
but definitely some goody moments. Gay bro Oh yeah yeah,

2374
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,399
stun no problem. I think it maybe went a little long.

2375
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,439
I think there is some fun shots, Like now I

2376
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,920
know why they do screen screen or stuff in the movies,

2377
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,680
because it's a shot up and he's like, yeah, like

2378
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,680
it's this dead music's playing dead. Seriously, it looks like

2379
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,840
he's a vacuum upgin his face like look good me, mom.

2380
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,720
Like there's a few moments e you know, cut that

2381
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,159
it kind of kills attention, but no great cool stuff

2382
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:29,319
like obviously very impressive what Cruise and Company can do,

2383
01:49:29,359 --> 01:49:31,760
and it looks for me, I liked this better than

2384
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,359
because I know people love the fault one, the fallout.

2385
01:49:34,399 --> 01:49:36,439
One of my problem with it sometimes is they switch

2386
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,880
that camera where it looked like go pro ish and

2387
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,439
I was like, ah, this takes me out of it

2388
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,520
where this was all to me cinematic looks. So I

2389
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,199
liked this better of him hanging on there and there's

2390
01:49:46,239 --> 01:49:48,079
some fun stuff. But like I said, I think he

2391
01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:50,640
did maybe a few too many rotations. I would have

2392
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:51,840
cut this a little bit. But if it's you know,

2393
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,279
the last one, then sure. But yeah, great sequence. Another

2394
01:49:55,319 --> 01:49:56,680
reason to pay to see this movie on the big

2395
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,239
screen if that's what you're if you're wanting, if big

2396
01:49:59,279 --> 01:50:02,000
action stunts, then definitely this gets you in the door

2397
01:50:02,039 --> 01:50:03,279
for some of you should see.

2398
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:05,159
Speaker 2: Like when these scenes are happening, whether it's the plane

2399
01:50:05,279 --> 01:50:08,199
or the submarine or just other action chase sequence even

2400
01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:10,479
from Dead Wrecking Part one, like when him and Haley

2401
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,319
are in the cars handcuffed together, Like I just forget

2402
01:50:13,319 --> 01:50:15,159
about the entity, you know, it's just like fuck, Like

2403
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:17,079
this is why I come to these movies, Like they're

2404
01:50:17,159 --> 01:50:20,039
just what they're able to. Like, I mean, they've been

2405
01:50:20,039 --> 01:50:22,760
doing this for a while now, like especially Tom Cruise

2406
01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:26,920
doing all these these stunts and crazy feats. It's just like, yeah,

2407
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,479
this is this is impressive and they definitely pulled those

2408
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,319
sequences off. And then it's a nice little takeaway from

2409
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:37,439
the entity chose us. See, everything that we're doing is

2410
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,479
chosen by the entity, and we have to do the

2411
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:40,880
complete opposite of what.

2412
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,399
Speaker 1: If we want to wants us to choose us and.

2413
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 2: Each other, because that's not what it wants us to do.

2414
01:50:49,079 --> 01:50:51,279
Speaker 1: What if he wants us to futhan.

2415
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 6: Let's circle back to the sister. What if it's last

2416
01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:03,640
was fortunate to me? I think it's a you thing, Luther.

2417
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,039
I don't think the entity wants me to fuck you known.

2418
01:51:06,399 --> 01:51:07,199
I think he does.

2419
01:51:11,279 --> 01:51:15,359
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, paid enough for this ship. I'm sucking at

2420
01:51:15,239 --> 01:51:16,840
it here taking care of this guy in a fucking

2421
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,680
doomsday room. Well, and now my parents are gonna know

2422
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,479
I'm just dead by Gabriel on the ground.

2423
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 2: Fuck, Oh you remind me the Russian. Uh, I don't

2424
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,479
know what I would call it, the the invasion that

2425
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,720
the Russian soldiers had on the island when it's like

2426
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,479
revealed that they were there. I I kind of liked

2427
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,960
that just element to it that the Russians are like

2428
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,560
right because they because they like hit home that like

2429
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,039
everyone's kind of looking for this, like they they kind

2430
01:51:44,039 --> 01:51:46,399
of know a little bit about it. I assumed it

2431
01:51:46,399 --> 01:51:50,119
would have just been the Russians and our heroes kind

2432
01:51:50,119 --> 01:51:50,840
of that know about this.

2433
01:51:51,399 --> 01:51:52,119
Speaker 1: Russians close.

2434
01:51:52,199 --> 01:51:54,399
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of submarines that they show, like

2435
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,560
on that that that monitor thing, whatever it was.

2436
01:51:58,119 --> 01:52:01,279
Speaker 1: I'm not a bunch of IF teams in different countries

2437
01:52:01,319 --> 01:52:01,960
that are failures.

2438
01:52:02,359 --> 01:52:03,159
Speaker 2: They chosen one.

2439
01:52:03,279 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron, they didn't Aaron Munt and like, but they

2440
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,399
didn't find the entity. They failed their mission, you know.

2441
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, but they did have another key, which is interesting.

2442
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I liked all that. I liked

2443
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,880
that Russian too, and especially just like the back and

2444
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,840
forth on like would you It's like we all will

2445
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,520
let you go. It's like would you believe that from

2446
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,920
if you're in my position, just like absolutely not. And

2447
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,720
then he says the exact same thing to them, and

2448
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:32,439
it's very true, right, Like from from their perspective, they

2449
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,399
were told like they're product of their environment. Their government

2450
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,840
told them that we like world's gonna end if we

2451
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,680
don't get that device right, and that would be everyone,

2452
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,439
all the players at play there. And I did like

2453
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,880
that it wasn't just a Kumbaya moment. It's like we're

2454
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,399
all humans and let's just work together to shut down.

2455
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,720
Like I am glad that it took them to like

2456
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,119
take them out. I really like that scene when Palm

2457
01:52:54,399 --> 01:52:57,239
is looking at Degas whatever the fuck that guy's name is,

2458
01:52:57,279 --> 01:53:00,800
and like he can tell what she's like, like Hntena

2459
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,399
and he's just like, no, don't do it. She's like

2460
01:53:02,399 --> 01:53:04,760
we're doing it. We're like like first chance we get

2461
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,039
where we're attacking these guys and he's like, fuck, I

2462
01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:09,880
just got to do it. So I like those moments

2463
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:14,800
and just so everything with the two innocent people. Also,

2464
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,800
you know the guy from from Mission Possible one that

2465
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,079
we kind of already talked about.

2466
01:53:18,039 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 1: His wife was good too. I like she is good

2467
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,399
comedic timing and stuff with them explaining the snow stuff.

2468
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,039
Speaker 2: But I think that went a little bit too long.

2469
01:53:25,399 --> 01:53:29,119
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Yeah, but yeah, sorry for the

2470
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:30,960
Russian team. Just gotta go back to work, you know.

2471
01:53:31,319 --> 01:53:33,720
So what he boss Ethan hunting his team again.

2472
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:38,279
Speaker 2: And they're still just chasing that that US submarine right

2473
01:53:38,319 --> 01:53:40,920
on their ass. They don't know that we're right behind them. Guys,

2474
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,239
they're taking us right to the entity. Why did they

2475
01:53:43,279 --> 01:53:46,359
you turn sharply right there before?

2476
01:53:46,399 --> 01:53:48,359
Speaker 1: I forget? This is what we talk about nonspoils. Me

2477
01:53:48,399 --> 01:53:51,840
and Taylor had a laugh where okay, so Ethan hunt

2478
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,560
his team. They get down to the cave to spring

2479
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,720
a trap on Gabriel. Of course, Gabriel's waiting to spring

2480
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,439
his own trap. That's when he was rock Card being

2481
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,039
like fucking won Ethan and like he's like, this guy's

2482
01:54:01,079 --> 01:54:03,720
got to kill switching all this stuff. Then Kittridge and

2483
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,199
fucking Jim Feld's junior roll up and they have their

2484
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:08,479
crew people and it's like, oh, we've we've you know,

2485
01:54:09,079 --> 01:54:11,520
outsmarted you both, right, And I thought, oh, this is interesting,

2486
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,560
Like Kittridge has outsmarted like he's got Cruise there and

2487
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,399
he's got Gabriel there. It's like, wow, this I didn't

2488
01:54:16,399 --> 01:54:18,520
think Kittridge and his team could pull us off. But

2489
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:23,279
then like as he's walking back, more monologuing, just multiple

2490
01:54:23,319 --> 01:54:26,000
people up in the cliffs just getting assassinated, and I

2491
01:54:26,039 --> 01:54:27,720
know they do like they cover their mouth, but it's like,

2492
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:31,000
no one's watching this, Like this is like death Cone, Like, hey,

2493
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,840
he keep your fucking eyes everywhere. Their guys are dropping

2494
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:35,800
left right, and there's not you're telling me, there's not

2495
01:54:36,079 --> 01:54:39,479
any sound. Just it's dead, like there's no audio mixing

2496
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,520
in these scenes or editing. It's just like dead quietfi

2497
01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:44,039
and he kills gun, throws them down, and then like

2498
01:54:44,319 --> 01:54:46,479
Gabriel's team takes over again. So it just felt kind

2499
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,840
of comedic to me of oh, we're here now, and

2500
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,199
then these guys are like on mute mode and it's

2501
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:55,319
just no one's noticing this, because like when Cruise and

2502
01:54:55,359 --> 01:54:58,800
Gabriel were talking, it seems like pretty like like in

2503
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,119
your peripheral view, you would he probably some guy taking

2504
01:55:01,159 --> 01:55:03,560
out like they it wasn't much blocking them. So the

2505
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,880
fact that all these guards that Kittchricks brought in were

2506
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:09,119
just getting silently taken out by Assassin that I was laughing.

2507
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:11,600
He's like, I don't this is not believable. As much

2508
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,840
as there's so much stuff like this is weird to

2509
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,960
make it happen. But and then kittridgs again odd character

2510
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,920
where he's just literally, oh, Ethan's a pussy. He want

2511
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:21,520
of his friends die. He's a bit She's gonna tell

2512
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,039
us the truth. At the end, they're like head nodding,

2513
01:55:24,079 --> 01:55:26,600
and it's like he just goes like Hunters like bitches.

2514
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,560
His back way to the coptor would be on the

2515
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:32,560
IMF team again, It's like, I fucking maybe Kitchricks should

2516
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,479
have caught a bolt or something here, you know, like

2517
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,960
he's such against Hunt. It's just like that there's no

2518
01:55:37,039 --> 01:55:40,680
payoff there for like either you make him catch a

2519
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:43,600
bullet or you make Kittridge find like fuck, I'm completely wrong,

2520
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,760
I'm gonna do something to helpless team. He doesn't. He

2521
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,720
just oh yeah, thanks for that drive. Let's get on

2522
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,479
the copter. Wait until next time when we disagree and

2523
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,119
put the world at risk, you know.

2524
01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:57,119
Speaker 2: Especially that the stakes are so high, you know, like

2525
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,359
like like the whole thing in this movie is like

2526
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,159
Hunt's trying to be like we're not like we're all

2527
01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:04,600
on the same time here, like it's all of us

2528
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,840
against the entity. And then you have kittens, Like I

2529
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,800
know you bonded the Kreml like it just seems like

2530
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:11,279
he's still like has this that like I know you're dirty.

2531
01:56:11,319 --> 01:56:14,359
I know you're actually dirty. Uh And it's just it's

2532
01:56:14,399 --> 01:56:17,960
so like cheap. I feel like like it's not a

2533
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,159
good payoff, Like why even bring this guy back to

2534
01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:21,880
have these moments like you should you should just have

2535
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,760
a new actor playing this person who's or Jim Phelps's son,

2536
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,079
like like have him being this be this person's like

2537
01:56:28,079 --> 01:56:30,159
we can't fucking trust him. He killed my father, put

2538
01:56:30,159 --> 01:56:31,960
it all on him, Like I would believe that a

2539
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:33,319
little bit more.

2540
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,479
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter.

2541
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 2: It's all declined. Yeah, like we have the files, we

2542
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,920
know exactly what happened. So yeah, I completely agree with you.

2543
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:45,640
I think the Kittridge like initially from because he came

2544
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,520
back and did Breaking Part one like that was the

2545
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,319
first time. Yeah right, yeah, so it's like, oh, this

2546
01:56:50,399 --> 01:56:52,600
is a big moment, like we're getting this character that's

2547
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,800
been gone since the first film. Not worth the payoff.

2548
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,119
Where we are now and how it ended, you don't

2549
01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:00,960
even like resolve anything right, Like it's just he walks away,

2550
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:01,840
we don't see him again.

2551
01:57:02,039 --> 01:57:04,239
Speaker 1: But that's I even remember am I one though, like

2552
01:57:04,439 --> 01:57:09,159
he eventually like helps Hunt like clear his name. He's like, oh,

2553
01:57:09,279 --> 01:57:11,600
like because there's that Remember there's like a call and

2554
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,119
then like it's John voice being recorded and then like

2555
01:57:14,199 --> 01:57:16,720
the speaker speaks up its kitchens being like he says

2556
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,199
it like oh I hear you loud and clear, and

2557
01:57:18,199 --> 01:57:20,840
that's that's to be like, oh they call like Ethan

2558
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:24,039
Hunt has patched kitchens. I'm f in Joan void, You're

2559
01:57:24,079 --> 01:57:26,680
fucked Like they they overheard you saying this stuff. So

2560
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,079
it's like the one time he was dirty and Ethan

2561
01:57:29,159 --> 01:57:32,720
proved himself clean, he's still like, oh, maybe maybe he

2562
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,000
is dirty. It's just like they didn't even go that

2563
01:57:35,039 --> 01:57:38,720
far to redeem kitchen. So yeah, weird, weird scenario again

2564
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:39,079
with that.

2565
01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 2: So for sure, last thing else, I think one of

2566
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,520
the last things I said is I kind of wished

2567
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,600
Simon Pegg and Ethan had like a moment to kind

2568
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,960
of just talk just like that, like those were like,

2569
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:58,119
well now that Luther is gone, like they just had

2570
01:57:58,119 --> 01:58:00,560
the most history amongst each other. So it to me

2571
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,560
it was a little bit unsatisfying that he went the

2572
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:09,760
same way that like someone like Degas or Palm even

2573
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:14,920
Grace right, like these are new characters and like Benji,

2574
01:58:15,159 --> 01:58:18,319
like like it's almost like that they're all in the

2575
01:58:18,359 --> 01:58:21,279
same caliber where I feel like Benji and Ethan are

2576
01:58:21,319 --> 01:58:24,000
just so much more like tight knit compared to everyone else,

2577
01:58:24,039 --> 01:58:26,039
even though they are still a team. So to me,

2578
01:58:26,319 --> 01:58:27,880
I think I wanted a little bit more of a

2579
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,359
sit down, especially if this is supposed to be Again

2580
01:58:30,479 --> 01:58:32,439
I don't believe so, but if this is supposed to

2581
01:58:32,479 --> 01:58:35,199
be the final moment, I kind of wanted them to have.

2582
01:58:36,119 --> 01:58:38,119
Was it Roade Nation or ghost proto? I think it

2583
01:58:38,119 --> 01:58:39,960
was ghost protocol when at the end of the film,

2584
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,600
like they're all sitting like what do we do next?

2585
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:45,119
Like what's our mission? And then so I yeah, I

2586
01:58:45,119 --> 01:58:47,720
think personally I would have wanted the final goodbye to

2587
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,560
be a little bit like that. I mean, part of

2588
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,439
me was even like everyone knows that Ethan saved the

2589
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,199
day like in that war room, like he should be

2590
01:58:55,199 --> 01:58:57,880
getting all these medals, but also maybe not, because this

2591
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,199
is the whole idea of the imf right. They been

2592
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:03,319
dying the shadows, Uh, so I guess the whole world

2593
01:59:03,399 --> 01:59:05,960
shouldn't know that he was and like that's kind of

2594
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,520
highlighted when he's just walking through the town and looking around.

2595
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,359
Everyone's just on their day to day, not knowing that

2596
01:59:10,439 --> 01:59:14,159
everything was that close to uh cea scene to exist.

2597
01:59:14,319 --> 01:59:16,319
Speaker 1: So my way losing.

2598
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.

2599
01:59:19,039 --> 01:59:20,159
Speaker 1: She's like an eighteen year old.

2600
01:59:20,199 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 2: It's like, get away from the old man.

2601
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you dye your hair on the fucker.

2602
01:59:26,039 --> 01:59:28,199
Speaker 2: He's like, die of the hairs. Shane was calming on that.

2603
01:59:28,239 --> 01:59:30,159
She's like, she's got he's got to stop the dyeing

2604
01:59:30,239 --> 01:59:32,920
his hair forever.

2605
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:34,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2606
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just sitting there like I should let the

2607
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,159
antity fuck this place up. You know, he's ungrateful pastor.

2608
01:59:39,279 --> 01:59:41,319
It's like this version.

2609
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:43,359
Speaker 2: Of Ethan Hunt is over and now it's like the villain.

2610
01:59:43,399 --> 01:59:45,199
It's like the Gabriel, but Ethan Hunt.

2611
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: He just the drive is a thing where it can spread,

2612
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,800
so he just takes and fucking breaks it on the ground.

2613
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,239
She goes in New York just like his smallpox, as

2614
01:59:53,319 --> 01:59:56,600
John Long can just yeah, it did change me.

2615
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,239
Speaker 2: He does his Gabriel Eve laugh though, ye I won't

2616
02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:01,439
play it the perk angle.

2617
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm out of notes. I'm sure I might

2618
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,399
think of something, but good thing is we'll talk about

2619
02:00:07,439 --> 02:00:09,199
next week on after I'm sure some I'd love to

2620
02:00:09,199 --> 02:00:12,159
get Maddie's because I saw Maddie rate rated much higher

2621
02:00:12,199 --> 02:00:14,039
than I would have, four out of five, so I

2622
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:15,640
was I was happy Maddie enjoyed it. But yeah, we'll

2623
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,960
probably talk about it again. But I think directly, I think

2624
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:22,399
I've said everything to say.

2625
02:00:26,039 --> 02:00:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I got anything else myself.

2626
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't have I'm probably missing something like you said,

2627
02:00:32,359 --> 02:00:34,239
but yeah.

2628
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,479
Speaker 1: Next week putting your notes for next week after nine,

2629
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,319
I'll go because I think I'm probably the lowest. I'm

2630
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,159
it hurts me. I'm gonna go five out of ten.

2631
02:00:42,479 --> 02:00:44,159
I'm gonna just pass it.

2632
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 2: That's lower than Part one was.

2633
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: Part one is like a seven, like a seven, I

2634
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:52,399
think it was. I no, it might be eight because

2635
02:00:52,399 --> 02:00:53,960
the letter box that was four. Because I guess. I

2636
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,880
still think that one functions as a mission impossible with

2637
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,720
like a not a big fan of this villain where

2638
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,920
this is the Villains movie, it's very much because the

2639
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,079
the Dead Reckoning is still all about like learning what

2640
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:06,840
the entity is right and building up too, and then

2641
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:09,279
eventually you see it's ai stuff like tons of It's

2642
02:01:09,279 --> 02:01:12,199
still the mission and I still you know, though he's

2643
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:15,279
not much around like I like, I like that actor

2644
02:01:15,319 --> 02:01:17,760
plays Digos, but I don't think they gave him much

2645
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,680
to do unfortunately, Like I think he's a like wel guy,

2646
02:01:21,079 --> 02:01:24,359
Palm's great. I wish they'd use her more in these. Again,

2647
02:01:24,439 --> 02:01:27,319
I like Haley atwell, but I like the Ilsa character

2648
02:01:27,359 --> 02:01:28,640
more and she was in there, and yeah, I do

2649
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,159
like Luther being on the team more and it just

2650
02:01:31,279 --> 02:01:33,479
was I think maybe I want to prefer that too,

2651
02:01:33,479 --> 02:01:35,600
of him beyond the team and dying halfway through instead

2652
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:37,920
of just like we only get him for five ten

2653
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,399
minutes and then I will kill him, so it's like,

2654
02:01:39,399 --> 02:01:41,359
oh he's it's just like am I for where it's

2655
02:01:41,359 --> 02:01:43,000
like he's just not really that in it, where I

2656
02:01:43,039 --> 02:01:45,119
think it would have felt a greater loss if he's

2657
02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:48,880
in the mission we lose him mid mission. But uh yeah,

2658
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:52,279
uh A five. I will pass it because I don't

2659
02:01:52,279 --> 02:01:54,319
think I could ever fail movie that I'd be like, man,

2660
02:01:54,359 --> 02:01:56,479
that one sequence one of the best like kind of

2661
02:01:56,479 --> 02:01:59,600
thrilling actions that piece I've seen. There's other sequences that

2662
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:03,119
I do enjoy, but lots of mess, lots of just

2663
02:02:03,239 --> 02:02:06,479
like what was the reasoning for this. I would love

2664
02:02:06,479 --> 02:02:08,560
to hear them talk about, Hey, maybe one day I

2665
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:10,199
can hear an interview and they'll convince me and Jim

2666
02:02:10,199 --> 02:02:12,960
Phillips Junior. But to me, that is stuff that just

2667
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:14,640
brings it down, bogs it down. And that's where I

2668
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:16,560
just like, if I was in that ending room, there's

2669
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,760
so much like cut there, cut there, cut there, Like

2670
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,800
there's so much stuff that just feels unnecessary. And like

2671
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,199
I said, I've never thought that about a Mission Impossible

2672
02:02:25,239 --> 02:02:27,239
movie other than you know, maybe two, but even two

2673
02:02:27,279 --> 02:02:30,840
have had some fun with this one. I I don't

2674
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,439
see the need to rewatch it anytime soon, and like

2675
02:02:33,439 --> 02:02:35,479
I said, if I do, it'll be submarine and on.

2676
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:37,640
Like all I need to know, That's that's what I'm saying,

2677
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,600
non spoilers. All for me I would need to know

2678
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:40,720
is that Luther's dead and.

2679
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:43,960
Speaker 7: Guess what they flash back to, like Luther givenen the gifts,

2680
02:02:44,119 --> 02:02:46,000
like oh, when it's all over this, like you could

2681
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,119
put tune to do together even if you start some

2682
02:02:48,279 --> 02:02:50,479
of the marine like oh, we lost Luth and in

2683
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,760
between movies, right, you could just say, oh, I'm sorry, yeah.

2684
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 1: We lost maybe lost them too. But Luthor you could

2685
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,319
just headcam like, oh, we must have lost them. That's

2686
02:02:58,399 --> 02:03:01,560
really sad for Ethan now. But yeah, A five. I

2687
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:03,800
just can't pass it because I think there's a lot

2688
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:08,159
of bad choices, very messy, and the idea to have

2689
02:03:08,359 --> 02:03:11,119
lots of movies like a recap is very a recap

2690
02:03:11,119 --> 02:03:13,520
and tied to other movies is very odd, and it

2691
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,840
just to me the pacing of this movie is very

2692
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:18,319
very Whoever, I'd have to look who edited it. Maybe

2693
02:03:18,319 --> 02:03:20,439
they've edited the other Mission Possible movies before, but I

2694
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:25,680
think the editing this movie was sounds mean but pretty atrocious,

2695
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,560
and I think this movie could be you could go

2696
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:31,319
up multiple points to me if you like we talked

2697
02:03:31,319 --> 02:03:33,960
about take off an hour forty five minutes. I think

2698
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,399
there is, which is not something I've usually said with

2699
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,880
Mission Impossible, even Deadreckning, which ran long. I still think

2700
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,279
there's tons of great stuff in there, so I will

2701
02:03:42,439 --> 02:03:44,479
just pass this and I don't think I'll ever fail

2702
02:03:44,479 --> 02:03:47,479
it because there is some thrilling stuff in here. But yeah,

2703
02:03:47,479 --> 02:03:49,039
this was a big letdown for me as the end

2704
02:03:49,039 --> 02:03:52,119
of the franchise, but luckily I was I didn't think

2705
02:03:52,119 --> 02:03:54,840
it'd be this slow, But like, because I was not

2706
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:58,680
the biggest fan of Dead Reckoning and the entity. I thought, okay,

2707
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,760
there is a chance, uh this could not be up

2708
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,279
to my liking, so quickly Eddie Hamilton's who edited? I

2709
02:04:05,319 --> 02:04:07,760
want to see if he's edited any other mission Apostle movies.

2710
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,640
He yeah, he's edited top On, Maverick, Fallout, Kingsman, he

2711
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:16,880
did Dead Reckoning, he did what else they do? Kick

2712
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,760
Ass two? There you go to there, So he's just

2713
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:20,800
been doing some more stuff now. But there's I guess

2714
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,560
at other movies that I've seen this guy edited, and

2715
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,760
I thought, oh, something like follow Right that I don't

2716
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:27,840
love as much as you guys. But to me, there's

2717
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:30,520
another one top On Maverick that to me is edited phenomenally,

2718
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:32,680
that has great pace in that movie and this and

2719
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:36,039
maybe this is just a situation too where you can

2720
02:04:36,119 --> 02:04:39,119
only you know, if you got ten pounds and they

2721
02:04:39,159 --> 02:04:42,000
give you a one pound bag. Maybe this editor can't

2722
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,680
do anything. If they're like, no, we need this all

2723
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:45,560
in the movie. What do you do with all these

2724
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:50,960
flashbacks and all this exhibition about Yeah, yeah, big shots

2725
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,439
on Thoma's face and make them happy, but yeah, five

2726
02:04:53,479 --> 02:04:57,039
out of ten just to pass? But uh not but

2727
02:04:57,279 --> 02:04:59,760
and I could probably selectively say it's like a bad

2728
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,239
movie even though I'm passing it. So but had a

2729
02:05:02,239 --> 02:05:04,359
good time with you guys watching it, and there's some

2730
02:05:04,399 --> 02:05:07,600
good stuff that I'll return to. But overall, definitely a

2731
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:09,479
weak point and it sucks that we're gonna end on

2732
02:05:09,479 --> 02:05:12,000
this one for a bit, so Tayfield.

2733
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go it's just a little

2734
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:19,880
bit higher than you and probably yeah, six point five

2735
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:20,680
out of ten a.

2736
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:23,239
Speaker 1: Little, that's the whole point five a little, just a little.

2737
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's not doing anything that really keep me

2738
02:05:28,319 --> 02:05:31,560
drawn in to go back to this, aside from googling

2739
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:33,560
or sorry, YouTube being a couple of the really cool

2740
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:38,720
sequences that's namely just the submarine. Yeah, that one specifically

2741
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:39,119
that one.

2742
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, CPR final Reckoning scene.

2743
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:48,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Golden geeks. Can I pitched the water scene? All

2744
02:05:48,039 --> 02:05:48,880
the submarine right now?

2745
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:49,079
Speaker 3: No?

2746
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 1: No, what Helen and she comes in.

2747
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:54,359
Speaker 3: Haley, Well yeah, uh but yeah, I just I don't

2748
02:05:54,359 --> 02:05:56,680
think that there's enough poll here, And to be honest,

2749
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,359
I'm excited to do our rankings episode, but I probably

2750
02:05:59,359 --> 02:06:01,880
put that the like Dead Reckoning over this one. I

2751
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:07,159
like Dead Reckoning, but that being said, there's just there's

2752
02:06:07,239 --> 02:06:10,800
not enough poll here, and I've said many times tonight,

2753
02:06:11,199 --> 02:06:13,760
the choppiness and the way they've cut up the story

2754
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,399
is just so messy, and they're just I feel like

2755
02:06:16,399 --> 02:06:18,800
they're re lying on I don't want to call it

2756
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:20,840
a crutch because it's not even a crutch. They're relying

2757
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:24,199
on dropping names of characters and expecting people to be like, oh,

2758
02:06:24,279 --> 02:06:27,000
that's not that, but it has no impact on the story.

2759
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, this guy whoever, even if it's the director of christophermccory, Tom,

2760
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:37,840
you gotta start working with him.

2761
02:06:37,880 --> 02:06:39,279
Speaker 1: That would be like, you know, we made four good

2762
02:06:39,279 --> 02:06:42,199
films together, your Ow Top Gun. Now we part ways,

2763
02:06:42,239 --> 02:06:44,479
Like whoever's idea that was? To me, that is like

2764
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:49,680
a fireball offense because it's just like, yeah, Jim films Son,

2765
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:51,920
Really that's the poll we're going with. That's such a

2766
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:54,800
that's gonna be such an odd one as the time

2767
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:55,600
goes on, you know.

2768
02:06:56,239 --> 02:07:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know, that's just that's not

2769
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:02,079
that's not the kind of stuff you do because you

2770
02:07:02,319 --> 02:07:04,880
can't rely on that and you can't expect everyone to

2771
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,479
get it. The GA like they're not gonna be giving

2772
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:12,479
the rats stuff out that like, god damn. Yeah, it's just.

2773
02:07:12,399 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 4: Like Ray Skywalker, like, oh she's skywalking and I'm like, oh,

2774
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:16,640
he's a Phillips.

2775
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 1: Now look at that. Especially, it's like such an inconsequential character.

2776
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:24,359
It's not like Haley Hatwell like reveals this or fucking Benji.

2777
02:07:24,479 --> 02:07:29,239
It's like this guy who was like character I don't know,

2778
02:07:30,319 --> 02:07:33,640
Jay on the Kids, like the spread Sheet last movie,

2779
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:37,159
and now he's like character cute, like he's just going

2780
02:07:37,239 --> 02:07:37,920
down and.

2781
02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:40,159
Speaker 2: He was like main Henchman last movie, and then this

2782
02:07:40,279 --> 02:07:44,319
one he's even like a lower role. Yeah, this is

2783
02:07:44,319 --> 02:07:45,319
where they give the review.

2784
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 3: It would have been better if it was a little

2785
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,960
bit more low key, like with Fallout when Vanessa Kirby's

2786
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,279
character she's talking and it's like, oh Max there, these

2787
02:07:53,279 --> 02:07:57,039
are Maxi's kids. It's super subtle. And again, I mean,

2788
02:07:57,079 --> 02:07:59,359
I don't think i'd even seen the first movie, so

2789
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:01,760
to id of connect those dots went over my head.

2790
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:04,680
But yeah, I'm not gonna be racing that we watch

2791
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,319
this movie. And that is a shame because this is

2792
02:08:07,319 --> 02:08:11,640
supposed to be the like the Big Sender and yeah,

2793
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:16,159
we uh we didn't really get that soap.

2794
02:08:16,319 --> 02:08:18,239
Speaker 1: Send it over to Kirkland and that's off here.

2795
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep the consistent hop train going. I think

2796
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,319
I'm gonna give a seven point five rating on this movie.

2797
02:08:24,319 --> 02:08:27,920
Even though it is egregious at times, I was still

2798
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:29,439
eating up a lot of the fan service stuff. I

2799
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,079
not all of it worked for me, clearly, but like

2800
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:36,600
the one with like the computer guy from the first film,

2801
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:38,800
Like I just thought that was fantastic, especially when it's

2802
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,520
like Ethan's like introducing or like he's introducing himself to Ethans,

2803
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:44,119
like I don't think we met. Like I loved all

2804
02:08:44,119 --> 02:08:47,039
those momentspecially just kind of a little wholesome, you know,

2805
02:08:47,079 --> 02:08:48,920
when he's talking about his wife, Like I probably would

2806
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:51,439
still be there and think that I'm satisfied with that life, right,

2807
02:08:51,479 --> 02:08:54,840
Like it's just a nice yeah, just a really nice moment.

2808
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:58,439
I all of the app pretty Yeah, I know. I

2809
02:08:58,439 --> 02:09:01,000
think all the action sequences were phenomenal. It was just

2810
02:09:01,039 --> 02:09:03,720
like some of the reasons why we were entering those

2811
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,800
action sequences were questionable, if that makes any sense. But yeah,

2812
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:10,520
I definitely could have been better. Like this is one

2813
02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:14,279
where I feel like a couple, like not even major

2814
02:09:14,319 --> 02:09:16,319
to like the entity we kind of have to be

2815
02:09:16,359 --> 02:09:18,600
the entity. You know they they started us here with

2816
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:21,279
with part one. I understand why we have to have

2817
02:09:21,319 --> 02:09:24,560
the entity here. I've swallowed that pill. We have the entity.

2818
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,119
But like there's a couple of small changes that I

2819
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:30,680
think really could have made this movie excel. We talked

2820
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:36,000
about the gym, the Jim Felt union, and like just

2821
02:09:36,039 --> 02:09:38,000
something that we've already mentioned with like like if we

2822
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:40,199
had Ilsa here, Like I honestly I think that would

2823
02:09:40,239 --> 02:09:42,079
have lifted this up like a whole point in the

2824
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:45,359
mom here. I love Rebecca Ferguson. I also really love

2825
02:09:45,479 --> 02:09:47,920
Haliat well, but just for the story purposes of what

2826
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:51,920
that character means, the character of Ethan hunt.

2827
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 3: Both of them resuscitating Ethan in that scene together.

2828
02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 1: On both sides. Christoph, for what if we bought Haley

2829
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,560
Beck and Rebecca sham on hand to remember Julia from

2830
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,560
number three? Yeah, what about and remember that model that

2831
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:09,239
you shown in the last week, let's bring it back

2832
02:10:09,239 --> 02:10:11,760
to It's just like yeah, like ten hands, It's like

2833
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:14,600
it's like a bond like opening. It's like just like

2834
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:15,920
reviving Ethan.

2835
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,479
Speaker 2: The when he wakes up, it's just being ramsed.

2836
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:22,199
Speaker 1: I revived, pulling your cock. I hope that's all right.

2837
02:10:30,159 --> 02:10:31,319
Speaker 2: Then again name dropping.

2838
02:10:32,039 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough week, you know, it's a late late

2839
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:34,960
review here, but.

2840
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, no, I I that was that was fantastic.

2841
02:10:39,439 --> 02:10:41,439
Oh I remember my little shut out there when when

2842
02:10:41,439 --> 02:10:45,119
when he comes to the aircraft carrier for the first time,

2843
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:47,439
Tom cruise on aircraft carry of course, my mind just

2844
02:10:47,479 --> 02:10:49,680
goes top gun and like it literally just shows a

2845
02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,000
couple of F eighteen's just going off. I'm like waiting

2846
02:10:52,039 --> 02:10:53,520
for danger Zone to just start playing.

2847
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 1: I said it, Taylor, they should play it there and like, so,

2848
02:10:56,199 --> 02:10:57,159
welcome back to Averick.

2849
02:10:57,920 --> 02:10:58,640
Speaker 2: It's the same night.

2850
02:10:59,000 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 1: It's the same guy.

2851
02:11:00,039 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 2: There's so many actors in this that were in uh so,

2852
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:06,680
probably a couple, but the fist guy, Yeah, exactly. So

2853
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:08,239
I just kind of had a kick out of that.

2854
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:09,279
I'm glad I remember.

2855
02:11:09,239 --> 02:11:12,119
Speaker 1: Actually, is it anyone just other than the fifth guy?

2856
02:11:13,199 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 2: Uh de gooss he was?

2857
02:11:16,399 --> 02:11:19,439
Speaker 1: Oh is he? Yeah, he's completely forgot.

2858
02:11:19,159 --> 02:11:21,199
Speaker 2: What's his name? I can't remember his call sign, but

2859
02:11:21,319 --> 02:11:23,560
he's the one that blacks out, remember and then he

2860
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:30,720
like almost died. I'm I'm like risk six percent sure

2861
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:32,159
that that is the I'll.

2862
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 1: Find out, Yeah sixty eight that's not pizza bet worthy here,

2863
02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:39,000
Let'll be fine, We'll finally forgot Aferica's.

2864
02:11:38,479 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 2: Pretty darn sure. I would pray, I would.

2865
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 1: Craig Tarzan Davis, Holy fuck, yeah, he's coyote.

2866
02:11:49,439 --> 02:11:50,119
Speaker 3: You get a pizza.

2867
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:55,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't bet that. I didn't say ship.

2868
02:11:55,319 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 2: So but you know, seven point five. I think that

2869
02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:01,760
rating will definitely change on future viewings, just because it'll

2870
02:12:02,199 --> 02:12:03,319
it'll bug me a lot more.

2871
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna dip. Man, then when you watch again and

2872
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:07,560
you get that I'm dead reckoning.

2873
02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 2: Like the first time I watched I reckon. I hated

2874
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,079
the entity, but like I've still really hot off of

2875
02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:16,640
like the scenes, which this same thing.

2876
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 1: You know you don't want the rewatch. Always got that

2877
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,279
big theater too to help those like massive set pieces

2878
02:12:21,279 --> 02:12:22,840
that like raise you up because then you're in the

2879
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:25,119
theater like oh you like the rock like chills, like

2880
02:12:25,159 --> 02:12:28,560
look at this fucking airplane. Look at Tom Cruise, He's

2881
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:29,520
backflipping and all.

2882
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 2: You know.

2883
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.

2884
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:35,319
Speaker 1: Well that's it. Like I said, we'll probably definitely talk

2885
02:12:35,359 --> 02:12:36,880
about this on After Night next week. I some people

2886
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:38,720
have seen it, because I'll be curious to gather people's

2887
02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:41,439
opinions on this because it's definitely one that we all anticipated,

2888
02:12:41,479 --> 02:12:43,960
but uh a last We hope you enjoyed this review.

2889
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:46,760
This was a fun run record and that's a good thing,

2890
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:48,680
you know. That's why I love this podcast. That maybe

2891
02:12:49,159 --> 02:12:51,439
on the whole movie's a little disappointing for me, but

2892
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:53,800
after talking about it, we had a good time, so

2893
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:59,640
it all feels worth it. And yeah, let us know Discord, YouTube, Patreon, wherever,

2894
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:02,840
Uh how you thought about the movie, and uh yeah,

2895
02:13:03,079 --> 02:13:05,279
we'll be back next week. I guess the next time

2896
02:13:05,319 --> 02:13:07,319
I hear from Us is the last of US finale,

2897
02:13:07,399 --> 02:13:08,239
and it will not be born