Speaker 1: Oh Medal, that's are Oh, that are hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. This is the Cult of Conspiracy and
Speaker 1: I am the Cajun Night and today we are going
Speaker 1: to be talking about Los Angeles, more specifically the underground
Speaker 1: living city of the tunnels in and around LA and
Speaker 1: all the controversy surrounding them. Basically, how do they get started?
Speaker 1: When did the digging really get kicking? And then we're
Speaker 1: gonna go into the more obscure conversations, the organized crime.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the oil industry that's booming in LA.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the lizard people. Yes, we're going there.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about Elon Musk because he
Speaker 1: has just dug a new tunnel in LA. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Starbucks barista from underground, all the things,
Speaker 1: all the things. I'm actually really excited about this episode,
Speaker 1: be honest with you, but not as excited as I
Speaker 1: am about the gift that Raven Lee and I just
Speaker 1: received from Kim from Kim's damn it Cozy Loops. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say cozy knotsbound, like that's not it. I
Speaker 1: know it's not it.
Speaker 2: Cozy Loops.
Speaker 1: Kim loops. If y'all want to see this, first of all,
Speaker 1: you got to go to the Patreon. I'll give that
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Speaker 1: Patreon supporter, cult member Throwing, actually knitted Raven Lee and
Speaker 1: I like figures of ourselves. She knitted me a Cajun
Speaker 1: knight with a sword and shit, y'all, a shield with
Speaker 1: a Florida Lee the backwards hat, and I get it
Speaker 1: because my face and hair and beard and everything. She
Speaker 1: pretty much had to make it look like he's wearing
Speaker 1: a backle butt. Look, I ain't mad at it. I'm
Speaker 1: not mad as so much hair, So like, I get it.
Speaker 1: But like the fucking cape, the armor, this.
Speaker 3: Little knobs that she like detailed the little knobs of
Speaker 3: the armor on the knees and and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is incredible, Kim, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for these gifts. I'm going to put it behind
Speaker 1: me in the studio, probably somewhere between the helmets or
Speaker 1: something like that. But it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: today thing because I wanted to be able to get
Speaker 1: it close enough to the camera to showcase it, like
Speaker 1: the amount of skill and the amount of time that
Speaker 1: this must have taken. I you know, I'm afraid to
Speaker 1: even guesstimate here, but needless to say, Kim has been
Speaker 1: a Cult member for quite a while.
Speaker 2: So we've had some awesome gifts.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Dirty Sanjez, Timmy two Toes for his
Speaker 3: epic all his cool shit that he's made, the pyramid
Speaker 3: and everything. Also Nelson with Flavors of the Forest for
Speaker 3: sending us all sorts of goodies.
Speaker 2: Also Royce for making me this epic situation back here
Speaker 2: behind my head.
Speaker 3: Who else? I'm trying to remember everybody. I think I
Speaker 3: got everybody so far, I'm not sure we've had. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've gotten some really awesome stuff from everybody, and we
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Speaker 1: and he sends us all kinds of awesome goodies. He
Speaker 1: just sent us rocks, lots of rocks. Well for Raven
Speaker 1: Lee the rocks, but he also sent us both some
Speaker 1: some printed ar mags that were fucking.
Speaker 3: They were so cool and honestly, we were trying to
Speaker 3: like fight over them. I think my apron is like
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things too. The apron's sick as fuck.
Speaker 1: The leather apron. It's almost like it feels like a
Speaker 1: blacksmith's apron, but it's full, it does. It's fucking dope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Nelson's a homie. The mushrooms that he sent us,
Speaker 1: I still haven't cooked with them yet. I need to.
Speaker 1: I feel it's okay.
Speaker 3: When I have my all my display up, I'll have
Speaker 3: all the gifts up and stuff, because man, there are
Speaker 3: so many cool things and I love it. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: just I'm a gift giver. That's a that's my love language.
Speaker 3: So like when I get gifts, I'm just like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And Kim actually made raven that a raven as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she made me a raven.
Speaker 3: My children have commedyered it because they have sticky fingers
Speaker 3: and they're like, what is this?
Speaker 2: What is this.
Speaker 3: Epic, cute, adorable raven? Yeah, my child snatched that. I
Speaker 3: knew she was gonna see it, and she snatched that
Speaker 3: right up and I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: I was like, what not fucking for you?
Speaker 3: You know, I probably won't even see it again to
Speaker 3: the lad day. She'll have it hidden away with all
Speaker 3: of her little treasures.
Speaker 1: So dude, whenever we get to the news studio space,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to just flip her room to find
Speaker 1: it because that goes in the studio.
Speaker 2: But anyway, right, no, I want to make a little
Speaker 2: like wired nest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh that would be pretty cool, right. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That was fucking hilarious, Like, okay, for the rest that we.
Speaker 2: Were both dead, and I was like, well, for.
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Speaker 1: ado let's get to the LA Tunnels. All right, So
Speaker 1: we are actually going to start off because this guy,
Speaker 1: this YouTube channel called its History, did a bang up
Speaker 1: job of explaining the backstory here, the official narrative, if
Speaker 1: you will, of how the LA Tunnels came to be,
Speaker 1: when they were started to really get you know, dug
Speaker 1: out and for what purpose and all these things, and
Speaker 1: I think that you know what, give credit where credits due.
Speaker 1: Go check them out its History on YouTube, and let's
Speaker 1: learn together cult members about these LA Tunnels.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to a time before Los Angeles became
Speaker 5: the sprawling metropolis it is today. You see, back then,
Speaker 5: it faced significant challenges due to its geography. For more context,
Speaker 5: in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, much of
Speaker 5: downtown was surrounded by hills like Bunker Hill in Fort
Speaker 5: Moore Hill, where wealthy families lived in mansions and exclusive neighborhoods. However,
Speaker 5: as the streetcar system grew and new suburbs like Hollywood emerged,
Speaker 5: these hills became a barrier to infrastructure development, limiting the
Speaker 5: city's growth. Merged, these hills became a barrier to infrastructure development,
Speaker 5: limiting the city's growth and expansion north and west. One
Speaker 5: major challenge came down to the fact that street cars
Speaker 5: which connected downtown with the suburbs couldn't really climb steep hills,
Speaker 5: so they had to go all the way around them.
Speaker 5: As an effect of this, traveling was unpleasant, with the
Speaker 5: routes prolonged and crowded when heading towards the rapidly growing
Speaker 5: areas of the city like Hollywood or Glendale. So naturally,
Speaker 5: engineers and urban planners of the time sought solutions to
Speaker 5: address this very issue, and it was then that they
Speaker 5: began to modify the terrain. So, with few alternatives to
Speaker 5: solving the city's traffic problem, underground tunnels became an indispensable
Speaker 5: solution for improving mobility within Los Angeles. One of the
Speaker 5: first was Hill Street Tunnel, inaugurated in nineteen oh nine,
Speaker 5: with construction dating back to nineteen oh seven, led by
Speaker 5: the Pacific Electric Railway, the electric streetcar company that connected
Speaker 5: Los Angeles to its suburbs. This project was funded by
Speaker 5: the one and only Henry E. Huntington. Anyhow, it was
Speaker 5: built with the Red cars in mind, which made up
Speaker 5: the largest streetcar network in the world back then, spanning
Speaker 5: over one thousand miles of track in its prime, and
Speaker 5: hence the Hill Street Tunnel, which was approximately two thousand,
Speaker 5: six hundred feet in length, was excavated to allow street
Speaker 5: cars to pass through the hill and avoid the surface traffic.
Speaker 5: Although much of the work was manual, excavation technologies already
Speaker 5: included using dynamite to break down rocks, as well as
Speaker 5: steam powered excavation equipment to move the displaced materials. After
Speaker 5: two years of work, the tunnel was complete. This tunnel
Speaker 5: was crucial for connecting downtown Los Angeles to growing areas
Speaker 5: like Hollywood and Glendale, and effectively reduced travel time by
Speaker 5: approximately fifteen minutes, a significant saving. This tunnel also allowed
Speaker 5: street cars to pass directly under the hills instead of
Speaker 5: circling around them, making the journey much faster and efficient.
Speaker 5: It also happened to reduce street congestion, which was becoming
Speaker 5: an issue with the increased number of automobiles in the
Speaker 5: city growing by the day. At that time, Other vital
Speaker 5: tunnels were also excavated, such as the Fourth Street Tunnel,
Speaker 5: which connected downtown with the western part of the city,
Speaker 5: Whereas in Bunker Hill, in addition to leveling parts of
Speaker 5: the hill, additional tunnels were constructed to facilitate streetcar movement
Speaker 5: in rugged terrain, and like Magic, Los Angeles expanded into
Speaker 5: new residential and commercial areas. However, while tunnels like the
Speaker 5: Hill Street and Fourth Street were excavated for streetcar transport,
Speaker 5: another lesser known network began to take shape beneath downtown.
Speaker 5: The Los Angeles City Administration and various private entities such
Speaker 5: as banks, commissioned the construction of other tunnels to facilitate
Speaker 5: the transportation of sensitive things like money, important documents, and
Speaker 5: even prisoners.
Speaker 1: I did want to make a mention at this point
Speaker 1: so I can understand why they started the first tunnel, especially,
Speaker 1: and I know you might be thinking to yourself, why
Speaker 1: was La becoming this growing metropolis. Hollywood wasn't the place
Speaker 1: for movies to be made like it is today, or
Speaker 1: it was in the Golden Age anyway, not at nineteen
Speaker 1: oh seven, right like when they first started construction on
Speaker 1: this tunnel. So you might be asking yourself, a cult member,
Speaker 1: why is it that La was growing so rapidly. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that in a bit. It does,
Speaker 1: in fact involve crude oil and the insane oil and gold.
Speaker 1: Insane drilling operation, and we're gonna get to that in
Speaker 1: a bit. But all right, the first couple of tunnels
Speaker 1: for transit purposes, okay, completely understand that, no no red
Speaker 1: flags on the play just yet. And then almost immediately
Speaker 1: they get into this, they start building tunnels for transportation
Speaker 1: of money, of prisoners, of important documents, whatever the case.
Speaker 1: And it was like a, now we're starting to tiptoe
Speaker 1: into the potentials of some funck shit going on as
Speaker 1: to why these tunnels are built.
Speaker 3: Well, remember though, because the other cities that we've discussed though,
Speaker 3: had already established tunnel systems prior to LA's tunnel system, right,
Speaker 3: and we know that people were already down there because
Speaker 3: the gold Rush brought people all across the entirety of California.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's taken things out of the book
Speaker 3: of San Francisco, out of Portland, out of Seattle, you know,
Speaker 3: Santa Barbara, they have them.
Speaker 2: They're all over the place.
Speaker 3: So we haven't touched on every single tunnel system in California,
Speaker 3: but there is well established tunnels and underground cities throughout
Speaker 3: the entirety of the state.
Speaker 2: So absolutely I could see them doing this just like
Speaker 2: everything else.
Speaker 1: Was Los Angeles, and forgive me for any of our
Speaker 1: West Coast listeners here, LA doesn't or there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot of gold found there, correct, I mean there may
Speaker 1: be some, but it's not like San Francisco. I completely understand.
Speaker 1: It's the closest port to the Sierra Nevada were again.
Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure that LA found the biggest one, right,
Speaker 3: like outside of LA. If they have the biggest Eureka, right,
Speaker 3: Eureka was found there.
Speaker 1: That okay, I think, let me.
Speaker 2: Let me look it up for sure.
Speaker 1: I do love history, but the master of all things,
Speaker 1: I just as you're talking about the boom, like you
Speaker 1: said oil and gold, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. Did LA have a quote
Speaker 1: unquote gold rush for actual gold or was it people
Speaker 1: that had made their money like decided to say.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and twelve pounds in the initial years which
Speaker 3: took which total historical gold production for all of Los
Speaker 3: Angeles County reached one hundred and nine thousand ounces almost
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten thousand ounces valued at two million.
Speaker 2: To four million in the nineteenth century.
Speaker 1: It's not that's not like bad by any means, but
Speaker 1: it's not the same as like we got from more
Speaker 1: up north.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm pretty positive that Eureka was found in
Speaker 3: was found in LA.
Speaker 1: Interesting like Eurka, I mean the first gold nugget.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest gold nugget I think it was the
Speaker 3: Eureka lemon was first found and propagated in LA in
Speaker 3: eighteen fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Got you okay? Fair So, yeah, you got a lemon
Speaker 1: sized nugget of gold. Yeah, people gonna come to find
Speaker 1: a little snippet of it, Yeah for sure. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: But anyway, like I was saying, we could understand why
Speaker 1: they started the tunnel transit system and then private entities,
Speaker 1: banks and wealthy business people started digging their own tunnels
Speaker 1: for their own purposes. And of course, on the record,
Speaker 1: it was for transporting money and transporting official things from
Speaker 1: pointing in to point B without the dangers of going
Speaker 1: top side. But is that the only reason I think not?
Speaker 2: I accidentally got it wrong.
Speaker 3: Eureka was a different nugget that was found, the biggest
Speaker 3: nughugge it was found. It's called the Mahave nugget, which
Speaker 3: is similarly associated with Eureka, but that was found in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven the Mohave Desert and it is like
Speaker 3: four point nine. It says one point one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty six Troy ounces this is what it says.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so Eureka, though, is a part of it too,
Speaker 3: And I'm not really I glanced over that, so I
Speaker 3: didn't actually look at it. But the Mohave Nugget is
Speaker 3: housed in La so that's why it kind of got misconstruted.
Speaker 2: But yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a little bit of why the city
Speaker 1: started to grow so crazy. And we're going to talk
Speaker 1: more about the oil industry there and all that here
Speaker 1: in a moment. But like I'm saying, at this point,
Speaker 1: we start to see private equities started digging their own tunnels,
Speaker 1: and things kind of just got sideways from there, but
Speaker 1: let's continue.
Speaker 5: Unlike the extensive public transportation tunnels, these smaller ones weren't
Speaker 5: built to move passengers across the city. Rather, they were
Speaker 5: meant to fulfill critical administrative and logistical funktions. In particular,
Speaker 5: this secret network of tunnels connected critical areas of the
Speaker 5: civic center, where courts, jails, and banks were located. These
Speaker 5: underground routes also allowed daily operations to occur efficiently without
Speaker 5: crossing the crowded streets of downtown. Although much shorter and
Speaker 5: more complex than the tunnels built for streetcars, they were
Speaker 5: reinforced with concrete to insure stability, and hence the tunnels
Speaker 5: were gradually built connecting the buildings as the city expanded.
Speaker 5: Many of the entrances to these tunnels were hidden in
Speaker 5: the basements of buildings or beneath important structures, allowing easy
Speaker 5: and discrete access for those who used them well. The
Speaker 5: exact construction cost of this network was not well documented.
Speaker 5: They were likely part of a general expense associated with
Speaker 5: constructing buildings in the Civic Center and other private institutions downtown.
Speaker 5: By the nineteen twenties, it was estimated that there were
Speaker 5: around eleven miles of tunnel under the city of Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: particularly in the downtown area. What began as a solution
Speaker 5: to Los Angeles' geographic and traffic problems would soon evolve
Speaker 5: into a network of underground routes that shaped the city's transportation,
Speaker 5: but only to later play a role in its darker history.
Speaker 1: And now, of course, we get to the underbelly, to
Speaker 1: the crime, to the bootleggers, inter.
Speaker 5: Prohibition nineteen twenty, The nation underwent a drastic change with
Speaker 5: the implementation of prohibition, which made the production, sale, and
Speaker 5: transportation of alcohol totally illegal. As the country adjusted to
Speaker 5: this new reality, the underground of Los Angeles became the
Speaker 5: perfect refuge for those seeking to evade the law. With
Speaker 5: over eleven miles of underground passages, these tunnels were repurposed
Speaker 5: as secret right out for moving smuggled alcohol. The tunnels
Speaker 5: connected to hidden bars, known back then as speakeasies, a
Speaker 5: term which apparently comes from speaking quietly to avoid drawing attention.
Speaker 5: These places were discreete and often hidden behind the ordinary
Speaker 5: facades of legitimate businesses like restaurants, shops, or warehouses. Many
Speaker 5: were located in basements or behind concealed doors, whereas some
Speaker 5: were connected directly to the tunnels under the city, making
Speaker 5: it easier to move the alcohol and people around without detection.
Speaker 5: And they also had a very strong cultural impact, as
Speaker 5: speakeasies offered more than just illegal drinks. Many featured live
Speaker 5: music such as jazz, and attracted people from all walk
Speaker 5: of lives, ranging from ordinary citizens to celebrities and figures
Speaker 5: from organized crime. Some of the most famous venues included
Speaker 5: the King Eddie Saloon disguised as a piano store, and
Speaker 5: the Executive Coconut Grove at the Ambassador Hotel, which attracted
Speaker 5: stars like Frank's and Not and the Marx Brothers. We
Speaker 5: should also point out that skid Roll played a critical
Speaker 5: role in the alcohol smuggling that went on during prohibition.
Speaker 5: Located in the heart of downtown and not terribly far
Speaker 5: away from the port, this area facilitated the illegal transportation
Speaker 5: of liquor that arrived on ships. The alcohol was offloaded
Speaker 5: and discreetly moved through a network of underground tunnels once
Speaker 5: it approached skid Row. Many bars and warehouses here had
Speaker 5: secret entrances to these tunnels, which not only provided safe
Speaker 5: access to alcohol, but also offered quick escape routes in
Speaker 5: case of raids. Additionally, since this was a somewhat marginal area,
Speaker 5: police surveillance in skid Row was said to be less
Speaker 5: strict than in other parts of the city, allowing speakeasies
Speaker 5: to operate with less risk of being discovered. And it
Speaker 5: needs to be emphasized that organized crime played a central
Speaker 5: role in running this network, controlling the smuggling and ensuring
Speaker 5: the operation of secret bars at the same time, corruption
Speaker 5: within the police and local politicians helped mini the number
Speaker 5: of rates, meaning over time, these tunnels became the center
Speaker 5: of corruption that dominated prohibition era Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: They weren't so all right, like we're like we've already
Speaker 1: discussed of course prohibition. We got bootleggers, rum runners if
Speaker 1: you want to call them whatever, that are smuggling things
Speaker 1: directly from the port through tunnels to skid Row, which
Speaker 1: if you look at the map that was just on
Speaker 1: screen there that is not a quick jaunt on land,
Speaker 1: let alone below the surface. So yeah, this was a
Speaker 1: very intricate network. There is officially an estimated eleven miles
Speaker 1: of tunnels, but unofficially, I mean, your guess is as
Speaker 1: good as mine, honestly, I mean that is I mean,
Speaker 1: especially with skid Row, has always been like you're saying,
Speaker 1: a bit of a you know, a grimy areas of
Speaker 1: the cops really kind of turned the other way, especially
Speaker 1: with the corruption that was going on at that time.
Speaker 1: But there we have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, skid Road is just absolutely horrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which we're going to talk about that more towards
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, after we talk about Hugh
Speaker 1: Hefner and his underground tunnels from the Playboy mansion to celebrities.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about what is under the ground of Los
Speaker 1: Angeles itself. Right, we do in fact mean oils oil wells,
Speaker 1: and these wells are actually being hidden in plain sight
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. For anybody who does not know LA
Speaker 1: has I think it's like a trillion barrels of oil
Speaker 1: underneath it. And they have been extracting this for over
Speaker 1: one hundred years. And in the earlier days of LA
Speaker 1: there was no problem with seeing a bunch of drilling
Speaker 1: rigs just operating, because who the fuck cared. However, as
Speaker 1: the city grew up around it, they tried to find
Speaker 1: ways of hiding them.
Speaker 2: So here is buildings up around him.
Speaker 1: Yes, there, They've.
Speaker 2: Hid them inside of buildings.
Speaker 1: And now they are soundproofed buildings. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: islands that they have like artificial waterfalls going as just
Speaker 1: a way to like cut down on noise and shit.
Speaker 1: One of these actually has led to kids getting sick,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because it's in the middle of a
Speaker 1: high school and these kids they like painted the sides
Speaker 1: of it as a way to like show the kids
Speaker 1: support and then kids started getting cancer and shit, it's
Speaker 1: it's fucking hilarious. But let's talk about it here.
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's funny, but like I mean, it's.
Speaker 1: You know, I guys, it's more of a cob sense
Speaker 1: of humor, but it's at the point here. This is
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles Magazine. So here are four oil wells
Speaker 1: hidden in plain sight in LA. For the record, there's
Speaker 1: a lot. These are just four of the more well known. Okay,
Speaker 1: So first one the Packard Well site. So if you're
Speaker 1: just driving through LA and you see this building, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna think anything's really suspicious about it. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's a squirret building, no windows.
Speaker 1: It's fine, But believe it or not, it is a
Speaker 1: very active oil well. This was built in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: seven and what looks like a windowless beige office building
Speaker 1: along Peako in the mid Willshire neighborhood hides fifty two
Speaker 1: oil and gas wells owned by Sentinel Peak Resources. A
Speaker 1: derek on tracks moves from well head to well head
Speaker 1: within the roofless structure. It doesn't this structure has no roof,
Speaker 1: but that's wild. And it's also like pretty soundproof as
Speaker 1: far as the walls are. Concerns why it's constructed with
Speaker 1: like these slits for air, but like no one would
Speaker 1: know that ever unless you knew what this building was, right.
Speaker 3: Which poses the question like do you actually really know
Speaker 3: what you drive by every day?
Speaker 1: Absolutely correct, Raven. The next is the Beverly Center. It's
Speaker 1: just as big, almost looks like a big old brick warehouse.
Speaker 1: I guess it's very wind a lot of industrial stuff
Speaker 1: on the outside of it, but actually this on the inside.
Speaker 1: From the outside of all you see is these brick walls.
Speaker 1: So tucked on the western side of the Beverly Center,
Speaker 1: the Sentinel Peak Resource Rig peaks out from behind tall
Speaker 1: walls and foliage, barely visible to passers by on San Vincente.
Speaker 1: From the top of the mall's parking garage, you can
Speaker 1: scope the site's full expanse, which includes fifty four wells
Speaker 1: that tap into Salt Lake and Beverly Hill oil fields
Speaker 1: and produce tens of thousands of barrels of black gold
Speaker 1: every year. So next we have the more uh what
Speaker 1: I think is funny but maybe not, The Tower of Hope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the name. Tower of Hope. And you see it's
Speaker 1: got a lot of flowers on it. All these things
Speaker 1: and the one hundred and sixty five foot tall derrick
Speaker 1: at Beverly Hills High As in Beverly Hills High School
Speaker 1: was dubbed the Tower of Hope in two thousand and
Speaker 1: clad in a vinyl sound absorbing sheath festooned with flowers
Speaker 1: painted by hospitalized children. Lawsuits claiming chemicals associated with the
Speaker 1: rig caused cancer were either dismissed or settled, but after
Speaker 1: the owner of Venoko went bankrupt, the decade's old drilling
Speaker 1: site was shut down in July of twenty seventeen. So
Speaker 1: why I'm saying it's funny is because the kids that
Speaker 1: they were painted it, they were hospitalized because of what
Speaker 1: this Derek did to them.
Speaker 2: I still don't see the humor in that.
Speaker 1: But like I I don't know, maybe I'm just fucked
Speaker 1: up here. You know. The Irony raven it's called irony anyway,
Speaker 1: they shut it down in twenty seventeen. But let's talk
Speaker 1: more about it now. The Cardiff Tower. This one is
Speaker 1: an interesting one. So the Pico Robertson neighborhood has been
Speaker 1: a Jewish enclave since the end of World War Two. Jews,
Speaker 1: I know, it's La Raven. It's like say, in New York,
Speaker 1: we can't not bring up the Jews in some way,
Speaker 1: but anyway, So it makes sense that the then owner
Speaker 1: of the Occidental Petroleum disguised this drilling site at Pico
Speaker 1: and Cardiff as a synagogue in nineteen sixty six. It
Speaker 1: was rebuilt in two thousand and one. The pseudo shool,
Speaker 1: now the property of Pacific Coast Energy, is home to
Speaker 1: forty wells which are access accessed by movable dereks that
Speaker 1: taps the same oil field as the Tower of Hope.
Speaker 1: So all right, let me break this one down for you.
Speaker 1: They needed to put a well in this area. This
Speaker 1: area happened to be a Jewish area. Two things that
Speaker 1: Jews love money and synagogues. I think that's a fair
Speaker 1: statement to say. And so the oil company was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay y'all to just not ask questions, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna build this to look like a synagogue. And hell,
Speaker 1: you could even open one of your shools here and
Speaker 1: it's all good. It's gonna be fine. And everybody basically
Speaker 1: getting the thumbs up. And that's that.
Speaker 3: So did you know that there's eight thousand oil and
Speaker 3: gas located in LA. There's actually one hundred and one
Speaker 3: thousand unplugged oil and gas fells throughout California, but eight thousand,
Speaker 3: so eight percent is located in LA County, I believe it.
Speaker 1: And speaking on that, let's learn more about the fake
Speaker 1: buildings that hide LA's massive oil industry and some of
Speaker 1: the numbers that are associated with this. Because I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that LA, especially in the early nineteen hundreds, pretty
Speaker 1: much it was like the fucking Saudi Arabia of the world.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Let's learn together, y'all.
Speaker 7: Okay, today we're going to be talking about LA's most
Speaker 7: precious sludge. And now I'm not talking about the MCU.
Speaker 7: I'm talking about oil, petroleum, the slicky ichy. You see,
Speaker 7: Los Angeles has a massive petroleum industry that digs for
Speaker 7: oil right in the middle.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they just called oil the slicky ichy. That
Speaker 1: sounds way. Maybe I'm not mature enough for this conversation,
Speaker 1: but that's fucking hilarious. But okay, LA's La slicky ikey.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we mean crude oil. And that's not what
Speaker 1: I thought when I first heard that one, homie. But
Speaker 1: all right, that's a thing anyway, Let's continue.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Angelis has a massive petroleum industry that digs for
Speaker 7: oil right in the middle of the city. But I
Speaker 7: wouldn't blame you for not knowing that, because they do
Speaker 7: a really good job of keeping it a secret. It
Speaker 7: turns out La County actually produces a whopping eighteen million
Speaker 7: barrels of oil a year, and Church Houston can do
Speaker 7: that in like a week. But half of Houston looks
Speaker 7: like this, and Texas public schools still consider crude oil
Speaker 7: a vegetable. What's unique about LA's oil wells is that
Speaker 7: they're not all sitting in some barren oil fields on
Speaker 7: the outskirts of LA. They're actually in La hiding between
Speaker 7: the cafe bookstores and the bookstore cafes. There are thousands
Speaker 7: of these rigs scattered throughout the city, and most of
Speaker 7: them are digging for that sweet black dimes or vinegar
Speaker 7: within fifteen hundred feet of a house, school, church.
Speaker 1: Or hospital.
Speaker 7: Now, unless you've always wanted to live within walking distance
Speaker 7: of a giant piece of industrial petroleum pumping equipment, which,
Speaker 7: knowing my audience is probably most of you, you might
Speaker 7: be wondering, how the hell do people put up with this? Well,
Speaker 7: the answer is most don't even realize that they're living
Speaker 7: in the middle of a massive oil field. For most
Speaker 7: of the city's history, the oil industry was pretty hard
Speaker 7: to ignore. There were giant oil derricks along the streets
Speaker 7: and the beaches. Crude oil frequently ended up in people's
Speaker 7: houses and yards, and lighting the candles on your birthday
Speaker 7: cake was probably the most dangerous thing you'd do all year.
Speaker 7: The Angelinas were so knee deep in black gold, in fact,
Speaker 7: that during the Second World War they even voted to
Speaker 7: install oil pumps in their own backyards. Well that might
Speaker 7: sound a little crazy now, this is essentially the entire
Speaker 7: reason that Los Angeles was able to become such a
Speaker 7: massive metropolis. For a while there, La alone was generating
Speaker 7: more than a quarter of the world's oil, and everyone
Speaker 7: was getting filthy rich, or at least getting filthy.
Speaker 1: Of course, a quarter of the world's oil was coming
Speaker 1: out of La I had no fucking clue.
Speaker 3: I knew that it had minerals, I knew that it
Speaker 3: had oil, and I knew that it had gold. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: I knew that those were the things that initiated at
Speaker 3: least the.
Speaker 2: Growth of that area.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that, like they I didn't know until
Speaker 3: like a few years ago that they were still actively
Speaker 3: getting oil inside and around everything. I mean, like I
Speaker 3: think like the closest pretty much everything is about one
Speaker 3: thy two hundred feet away from another building.
Speaker 2: Like every oil place is like situated at.
Speaker 3: A certain amount of feet away, and they're having like
Speaker 3: because you know, they've made them.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the.
Speaker 3: Thing is, the more property sticking stricken areas are surrounding
Speaker 3: those places, you know, higher disproportions of it and stuff
Speaker 3: are around the oil sources.
Speaker 2: But it's like the oil sources were there first.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like one of those conversations of
Speaker 3: like did they purposely change and shift around these locations
Speaker 3: or you know.
Speaker 1: Some yes, some know like the one that the Jewish area,
Speaker 1: like that area is not a run down spot, Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills High isn't necessarily a run down spot. But yes,
Speaker 1: to your point, there are a few of them that,
Speaker 1: like clearly the area kind of went.
Speaker 3: More marginalized groups are around these oil situations. Hell, they
Speaker 3: have some wells that are twenty five feet from homes
Speaker 3: twenty five feet for sure, and like they're producing all
Speaker 3: sorts of chemicals, and then they have a lot of
Speaker 3: association with different types of issues with like you know, cardiac, respiratory, neurological,
Speaker 3: palmonary effects, childhood cancer, premature labor, mental health harms.
Speaker 2: Like those are just common things that are around this
Speaker 2: and you're.
Speaker 3: Talking you don't even know that an oil situation's happening
Speaker 3: twenty five feet from your house because they have.
Speaker 1: Mental health issues just come with the territory at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of wild to me though, that this
Speaker 3: is like an actual thing that they are producing that
Speaker 3: much oil at one point.
Speaker 1: A quarter of the world's crude oil, which I mean,
Speaker 1: granted we're talking about in the early nineteen hundreds, cars
Speaker 1: were not as prevalent as they are now. I mean
Speaker 1: it was we were going through the industrial Revolution, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, and a lot of things were going
Speaker 1: heavily into the industrialization. But still that is a that's
Speaker 1: a bold claim to make. And then even still LA
Speaker 1: has a massive amount of oil underneath it, but it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of like one of those reserves were kind
Speaker 1: of sitting on just if and when we would need it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that in World War two people were
Speaker 1: opting to let the government come and drill oil from
Speaker 1: their backyards. That's pretty fucking wild too, But I mean again,
Speaker 1: it's crazy to look at the day and age at
Speaker 1: which that was going down. So anyway, let's continue. But again,
Speaker 1: this is why realistically, La itself became the booming metropolis
Speaker 1: with so many people flooding in because a lot of
Speaker 1: them were trying to make their money in the oil field.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's continue.
Speaker 7: Of course, the public's enthusiasm for these thousands of greasy
Speaker 7: Eiffel towers didn't last forever, and eventually the people of
Speaker 7: La decided that their city needed to look less like
Speaker 7: this man more like this. So the petroleum company's device
Speaker 7: the most American solution possible, keep drilling for oil and
Speaker 7: just cover it.
Speaker 1: Up, like literally cover it up.
Speaker 7: Let me explain. In the nineteen sixties, Axidental Petroleum wanted
Speaker 7: to drill for oil in this Orthodox Jewish neighborhood outside
Speaker 7: of Beverly Hills. Now, the petroleum executives knew exactly two
Speaker 7: things about the Orthodox Jewish community. One they didn't like
Speaker 7: giant oil derecks, and two they seemed to like synagogues.
Speaker 7: So as a compromise, Occidental Petroleum decided that they were
Speaker 7: going to build a giant oil derek, but they would
Speaker 7: disguise it as a synagogue, or at least something resembling
Speaker 7: a synagogue kind of. What's important, though, is that the
Speaker 7: building didn't end up looking as ugly as this, which
Speaker 7: was so exciting that the mayor of La personally attended
Speaker 7: the ribbon cutting and called this base rectangle quote an
Speaker 7: outstanding contribution to civic beauty. From the sixties onward, all
Speaker 7: sorts of these disguised oil dereks started popping up around La.
Speaker 7: There are even entire oil pumping platforms off the coast
Speaker 7: of Long Beats that are disguised to look like islands
Speaker 7: with trees, fig buildings and artificial waterfalls to mass the
Speaker 7: sounds of drilling pumping and business guys jumping into giant
Speaker 7: pools of gold coins. Of course, most of the wells
Speaker 7: aren't as cleverly hidden. There's just sitting in big windowless
Speaker 7: boxes like this or this, and some are still more
Speaker 7: or less sitting out in the open, like this one,
Speaker 7: the Tower of Hope. This oil derek operated right in
Speaker 7: the middle of a local high school, and despite the
Speaker 7: fact that it was about as well hidden as a
Speaker 7: brand new oil derek on Christmas morning, it was beloved
Speaker 7: for its floral walls painted by thousands of local sick children.
Speaker 7: That is until it allegedly started getting all the other
Speaker 7: children sick, and the school renamed it the Tower of
Speaker 7: Hope you don't get cancer.
Speaker 2: Whoops.
Speaker 7: Now, if you're feeling left out because you don't live
Speaker 7: in La, don't worry. This sort of thing. Isn't you
Speaker 7: unique to La, or for that matter, the petroleum industry.
Speaker 1: All right, so we don't need to get into other spots.
Speaker 1: But yes, other places around the country have also pretty
Speaker 1: much hidden oil dereks under buildings before. But again, La itself,
Speaker 1: for all their hippie, dippy, crunchy bullshit, the city only
Speaker 1: exists because of crude oil, which is fair, That's fascinating
Speaker 1: and yes, a little hilarious. The school even renamed it
Speaker 1: the Tower instead of the Tower of Hope, the Tower
Speaker 1: of Hope you don't get cancer. That's fucking hilarious. You see,
Speaker 1: you see you want to say it's not funny, but
Speaker 1: you're snickering. You're snickering, just saying anyway, Ye, So now,
Speaker 1: With that in mind, these oil industries and these booms,
Speaker 1: these tycoons coming in like this, it's worth mentioning that
Speaker 1: a portion of these LA tunnels was also used in
Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme involving the oil industry. Listen to this one, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating.
Speaker 5: One of the most infamous was the Julian Petroleum scandal,
Speaker 5: a massive fraud that shook the city in the mid
Speaker 5: nineteen twenties. At the heart of the scandal was CC Julian, who,
Speaker 5: through his company Julian Petroleum Corporation, orchestrated a Ponzi scheme
Speaker 5: selling more than one hundred and fifty million dollars in
Speaker 5: fraudulent shares. Thousands of investors were deceived, including prominent businessmen
Speaker 5: and influential figures in the city. Well the tunnels were
Speaker 5: being used for alcohol smuggling. Julian and his associates took
Speaker 5: advantage of this underground infrastructure to move large sums of money,
Speaker 5: discreetly hiding their operations from public scrutiny. The fraud collapsed
Speaker 5: in nineteen twenty seven when it was revealed that Julian
Speaker 5: had issued millions of shares with no natural backing. Leaving
Speaker 5: the investors bankrupt and the local financial system in chaos.
Speaker 5: CC Julian fled to China to avoid justice and eventually
Speaker 5: committed suicide in nineteen thirty four.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you see these underground tunnels are being used
Speaker 1: by bad people. And this, dude, I mean the whole
Speaker 1: thing selling shares in a new oil venture in LA.
Speaker 1: That didn't seem crazy. There were so many others that
Speaker 1: were doing oil business in La. This to an investor,
Speaker 1: to all these people, one point five million dollars, all
Speaker 1: this like sure, yeah, that sounds good. There's so much
Speaker 1: oil get after. Man, here's a couple of moneys for
Speaker 1: a couple of shares. It's all good. In reality, it
Speaker 1: was all done for a bootlegging operation and it was
Speaker 1: just a giant Ponzi scheme. He got caught and U
Speaker 1: ended up putting a gun in his mouth, because that's
Speaker 1: what you do when you screwed people out of that
Speaker 1: much money. I suppose. So we already you can see
Speaker 1: how the tunnels first were built, and why why business
Speaker 1: owners and private equity groups started building their own tunnels,
Speaker 1: and for what purpose inter prohibition. Now we're getting into
Speaker 1: the black market trade and sale of illegal liquor and
Speaker 1: prostitutes and all these things. No, these tunnels were not used,
Speaker 1: at least from any record that I can find. They
Speaker 1: were not used for shanghaiing people into naval service. Like
Speaker 1: all the other episodes we've done about underground cities and
Speaker 1: things were concerned as far as the research I can tell,
Speaker 1: and Ravenly, I don't know if you found anything on
Speaker 1: your end, but I can find no record of the
Speaker 1: tunnels being used for shanghaiing or press ganging or crimping
Speaker 1: or whatever to get dudes onto the boats.
Speaker 2: I haven't found anything.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I spent most of the majority of my time
Speaker 3: researching about lizard people.
Speaker 1: Which is a really good segue because as we're talking
Speaker 1: about this nineteen twenties into the nineteen thirties, here is
Speaker 1: an archive from the La Times from January twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty four, talking about the Lizard People's catacomb city hunted.
Speaker 1: This is wild as fuck. Raven, you found this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, So there's actually two La Times. You have
Speaker 3: to scroll down more. It's on the second page, so
Speaker 3: click like you just click the oh yeah, there is yep.
Speaker 3: So this is a headline and lizard People's catacomb city
Speaker 3: Haunted is a headline in the newspaper. This is one
Speaker 3: of the next one you're going to show is another article. Actually,
Speaker 3: multiple articles were written in la and so actually this
Speaker 3: was even in this guy Gene he actually went out
Speaker 3: and did a whole bunch of research on this, and
Speaker 3: like they actually aired this. This was something that like
Speaker 3: Saturday morning, Sunday morning, they're getting their newspaper and this
Speaker 3: is what people are seeing. They're like, excuse me, did
Speaker 3: I just read this correctly? And why did this happen?
Speaker 3: So we're going to dive in deep into good old
Speaker 3: George Warren and I'm gonna call him Warren because he's
Speaker 3: mentioned as Warren a lot. He is a mining engineer
Speaker 3: and some say a mining engineer, and.
Speaker 2: He had other kind of backgrounds as well.
Speaker 3: Basically, he created this invention that he called the radio
Speaker 3: X ray device, and what this did was is that
Speaker 3: it could detect minerals and or through basically the rock
Speaker 3: his whole He stated at one point in an interview
Speaker 3: that he could look through rocks to see what was
Speaker 3: inside of it, and he decided. So it's an interesting story. Basically,
Speaker 3: if you want to click to the next Oh, one.
Speaker 1: I was gonna read a little bit of this one.
Speaker 2: Oh you could read it. Yeah, go ahead, you can go.
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm not gonna read the entire article because
Speaker 1: it's only a snippet of it. But it says continued
Speaker 1: on page five, column two, Lizard people, catacomb city. Hunted
Speaker 1: engineer sinks shaft under Fort to find maze of tunnels
Speaker 1: and priceless treasures of legendary inhabitants by Gene Basquette. But
Speaker 1: busy Los Angeles, although little realizing it in the hustle
Speaker 1: and bustle of modern existence, so stands Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of cut off. There stands above a lost city of catacombs,
Speaker 1: filled with incalculable treasures and imperishable records of a race
Speaker 1: of humans further advanced intellectually and scientifically than even the
Speaker 1: highest type of present day peoples, in the belief of g.
Speaker 1: Warren Schufeldt, which that's what you're talking about, Warren, and
Speaker 1: scientifically than ever even the highest type of Sorry, I skipped.
Speaker 1: A geophysical mining engineer, now engaged in an attempt to
Speaker 1: west from the lost city, arrest rather deep in the
Speaker 1: earth below Fort Moore Hill, the Secrets of the Lizard
Speaker 1: people of legendary fame in the medicine lodges of the
Speaker 1: American Indian.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, hell, the he goes to the Hopi tribe
Speaker 3: for information on this whole situation that he finds.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so let's go to this next one here.
Speaker 3: So and that little clip you know you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to like scroll in that white part is where it's at,
Speaker 3: and that's the Lost Underground City Sought in the Heart
Speaker 3: of la is what it states. And basically it's another
Speaker 3: continuum of talking about the shaft and the explorers and
Speaker 3: the key.
Speaker 2: Room of the city and the catacombs and stuff that
Speaker 2: he believes. He's a geo.
Speaker 3: Geophysicist, mining engineer, and designer, so they kind of like
Speaker 3: they they add different stuff to him. But basically old
Speaker 3: Boy was not like it's just some random dude off
Speaker 3: the street. He actually went and got this city approved
Speaker 3: to drill this shaft. The city council approve this with
Speaker 3: a patent. The official petition was in February of nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty three, and the city basically was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: you have enough shit here for us to decide that
Speaker 3: lizard people are real, and you're correct, and we're going
Speaker 3: to take fifty percent of all the treasure that belongs
Speaker 3: to this whoa, I'm sure, and.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read this, but it's like super blurry
Speaker 1: even when I zoom in. But that's they decided to
Speaker 1: take fifty percent of whatever treasure he found.
Speaker 3: Yes, So like he talks about, oh god, it just
Speaker 3: popped me out of it. He says, like I knew
Speaker 3: I was over a pattern of tunnels and so okay,
Speaker 3: what happens. What is is that he builds this device, right,
Speaker 3: he hears about the people talking about this for Fort Moore,
Speaker 3: and there's like tunnels and all this stuff out there,
Speaker 3: and they're you know whatever, and people been exploring it
Speaker 3: for one hundred years prior to you. There's a ton
Speaker 3: of legends out there. It sits at the edge of
Speaker 3: the old downtown in LA And so Warren goes out
Speaker 3: there and starts exploring it with his new little fan
Speaker 3: dangled radio X ray situation that he made. So he
Speaker 3: had already heard all these rumors about the treasure lore
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and he's like, you know what, cool,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out and see if I could find
Speaker 3: this Spanish gold because it's lost somewhere out here in
Speaker 3: these hills and it's from the Spanish US War apparently.
Speaker 3: And so he ends up he ends up scanning this
Speaker 3: area that turns into an entire labyrinth of giant rooms,
Speaker 3: tunnels and all this stuff in when he maps it out,
Speaker 3: he like, you know, actually draws out this map. It
Speaker 3: turns into a giant lizard like the map itself. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like once he's so he is tracking with his
Speaker 3: X ray machine where the tunnels are going, and there's voids,
Speaker 3: massive voids, and he's mapping these massive voids and he's
Speaker 3: mapping these tunnels and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Basically he states that what he sees is the map
Speaker 3: itself that he ends up drawing is a lizard shape.
Speaker 3: Like it's a massive lizard shape. Let me see, I
Speaker 3: have all of it, like we'ritten. I have a lot
Speaker 3: of notes. And one of those people that takes weach, no.
Speaker 1: You're good, you're good. And what we're looking at right
Speaker 1: now that I was trying to read but can't, I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: it's a newspaper from the San Pedro News Pilot, volume six,
Speaker 1: number two eighty three, issued on January thirtieth, nineteen thirty four,
Speaker 1: and it's also talking about what we read on the
Speaker 1: last article, so like there's it's not just one like
Speaker 1: tabloid that was talking about. It was the La Times,
Speaker 1: it was the San Pedro News Pilot, like this is
Speaker 1: this was a well documented story that was circulating it
Speaker 1: this time.
Speaker 2: It was actually a really big story.
Speaker 3: So the map that the patterns of the voids that
Speaker 3: he maps out actually are technically under sent the Central
Speaker 3: Library right now to Mount Washington, to the hills in
Speaker 3: the north, like as of if we were to look
Speaker 3: at it today, this is where it's at. And he
Speaker 3: basically he decides that he's like, you know what, there's
Speaker 3: enough evidence here.
Speaker 2: I I need to go talk to some people.
Speaker 3: Let me go talk to the Native American tribe because
Speaker 3: there is a lure about this and I want to
Speaker 3: hear about what is actually happening with this lore. So
Speaker 3: he goes to the Hopi tribe and he talks to
Speaker 3: Chief green Leaf, and basically green Leaf tells him about
Speaker 3: the Snake Brothers and they are an ancient So I've
Speaker 3: heard two different stories.
Speaker 2: I've read a little bit.
Speaker 3: The next article that we get into is going to
Speaker 3: break down more of this and stuff. But everyone kind
Speaker 3: of has a version of what was said at this
Speaker 3: meeting basically.
Speaker 2: And the snake Brothers.
Speaker 3: So one theory, one story I've heard is that there
Speaker 3: were actually humans at one point five thousand years ago
Speaker 3: that went into these tunnels, these underground systems, and they
Speaker 3: basically took all of their shit with them, and they
Speaker 3: also decided to write all of their knowledge of what
Speaker 3: humanity is, how humans became, and all this stuff on
Speaker 3: these giant old tablets that happened to be down.
Speaker 1: The old tablets enter the Mormons. I'm joking, continuing, No, they.
Speaker 3: They have this knowledge down there, So that's that's a
Speaker 3: thing that's going on, and they basically are trying to
Speaker 3: escape this massive catastrophic event that's gonna happen, and so
Speaker 3: they steal themselves in that's one theory. Another theory is
Speaker 3: that are already sneak brothers. They are lizard people that
Speaker 3: they that he Greenleaf, Chief Greenleaf described to him and
Speaker 3: basically the same situation though they just they What's interesting though,
Speaker 3: is that a lot of people say that the story
Speaker 3: goes that they melted through rock to carve out the
Speaker 3: subterranean giant labyrinth underneath to basically seek refuge from this
Speaker 3: catastrophic event, and they close themselves off underneath there. According
Speaker 3: to legend, you know, they had all of their origin
Speaker 3: stories of humans and themselves and everything else. Also, two
Speaker 3: other cities were built created by these lizard people, one
Speaker 3: of which we know is underneath Mount Shasta, which is
Speaker 3: another hub for lots of interesting things, and the other
Speaker 3: one is still unknown.
Speaker 2: Apparently there was thousands of families down there, not.
Speaker 3: Just like a few people. It was like thousands of families.
Speaker 3: Is what the is the way that the story actually goes.
Speaker 3: And so for those of you wondering, like, okay, why
Speaker 3: do these tunnels have to do with this, maybe this
Speaker 3: is just like the Metro. The Metro wasn't made for
Speaker 3: another fifty seven years prior to this whole conversation. So
Speaker 3: old Boy and his partner go actually to the city council.
Speaker 2: He talked to the Hope people.
Speaker 3: He has all of his records, he draws this map
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and he goes to them and
Speaker 3: he goes, Okay, so here's my petition.
Speaker 2: I want to go up there and I want to
Speaker 2: drill into.
Speaker 3: The side of this face of the hill, and I
Speaker 3: want to drill down three hundred feet and I will
Speaker 3: tell you, when we get to the three hundred feet
Speaker 3: is gonna be the precise place of where it opens
Speaker 3: up into this massive tunnel system.
Speaker 2: And like, shit is going to be down there. And
Speaker 2: the city council was like, you know what, we actually
Speaker 2: believe you. We are going to actually agree to this.
Speaker 3: We're going to fund it and give you the resources
Speaker 3: to go dig on this hill. And so they decide
Speaker 3: to start this whole situation. So there they are, they're
Speaker 3: drilling down all this stuff. They get to past two
Speaker 3: hundred feet, and this is where he starts taking more readings,
Speaker 3: and he realizes that the voids are massive rooms that
Speaker 3: he is seeing technically down there past the two hundred feet,
Speaker 3: which confirmed though, so there's big openings already at the
Speaker 3: two hundred feet mark, which technically confirms what he was
Speaker 3: saying was that his machine was actually working, that it
Speaker 3: did show voids and tunnels and such.
Speaker 2: So as they were getting.
Speaker 3: Closer to getting down to the three hundred mark, suddenly though,
Speaker 3: it starts to fill in with mud and water abruptly, okay,
Speaker 3: and they decide that, well, you know Caven's is the
Speaker 3: real thing. I guess we're just gonna pull out. What
Speaker 3: the weird part about this whole thing is is this
Speaker 3: man was like staking his entire professional reputation on this dick.
Speaker 3: Like everything he's ever decided, taught, said, whatever, this is
Speaker 3: all coming down to this dick. He was a man
Speaker 3: that was like obsessed with this mission. Basically sure if
Speaker 3: he could just reached the three hundred mark. What's crazy, though,
Speaker 3: is that the official records say that they abruptly stopped
Speaker 3: and never touched it again. He literally stopped completely that day,
Speaker 3: walked away without saying anything, without fighting, without going back
Speaker 3: and trying to redo this again, without coming at it
Speaker 3: from a different angle, without doing anything at all to
Speaker 3: try and prove what his entire reputation is staked on.
Speaker 3: He literally walks away. Then he completely withdraws from society
Speaker 3: like one hundred percent, doesn't do any more interviews, doesn't
Speaker 3: talk to anybody, doesn't say another single word about this,
Speaker 3: and he dies in nineteen fifty seven with never talking
Speaker 3: about it again with anyone. The shaft itself was never finished,
Speaker 3: and the city acted like it never happened. They completely
Speaker 3: went about building on top of it, building around it,
Speaker 3: doing whatever, and just acting like it never happened. No
Speaker 3: one ever actually did anything with the shaft. Again, here's
Speaker 3: where the story gets even crazier though. So there's three
Speaker 3: parts to this. The first part comes with the conversation
Speaker 3: of the iron door. So the iron door is one
Speaker 3: of the biggest rumors there is rumors, stories, myth legend,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to think.
Speaker 1: Let me have an article pulled up on that when
Speaker 1: we're going to read a minute.
Speaker 3: So the iron door itself, by all accounts, is a
Speaker 3: door that is situated up there at the.
Speaker 2: Fort Fort Hill. I think it's like Fort Moorehill, I
Speaker 2: think it's called.
Speaker 3: And basically it's fitted flush to the stone. It's not visible,
Speaker 3: there's no visible way.
Speaker 2: Of opening it.
Speaker 3: This is my eyewitness accounts that have talked about this.
Speaker 3: So all of them though, so everybody can't. All the
Speaker 3: people that have seen this apparent door cannot agree on
Speaker 3: the exact location.
Speaker 2: This is important though, to remember. But every one of them.
Speaker 3: Remember, everyone agrees that it's warm to the touch, without
Speaker 3: ever talking to each other or anything like this. Every
Speaker 3: single person says that it's unusually warm to the touch,
Speaker 3: and that all the air around. It just feels completely wrong.
Speaker 3: No one knows who's made it, there's no record of it. Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: you know whatever. So in nineteen thirty four, while old
Speaker 3: boy Warren is getting all this shit together to go
Speaker 3: up there and drill, four men, hear about what he's
Speaker 3: gonna do, and actually it's five men. Four men decide
Speaker 3: that they're going to go and they're going to go
Speaker 3: up there with picks and some dynamite and they're going
Speaker 3: to go to the location in which he's been talking
Speaker 3: about to everybody, and they're gonna go down there. They're
Speaker 3: gonna find that treasure of them damn self. So all
Speaker 3: five men hike up there, you know, they decide we're
Speaker 3: going to do this. Sure, four men go in, never
Speaker 3: come back out. The fifth man that stayed outside was
Speaker 3: like making sure the ropes were good, making sure he
Speaker 3: was listening for him. Waited and waited and waited, and
Speaker 3: it's like something really bad has happened to them, right.
Speaker 3: He runs back downtown and it's like, look, will anybody
Speaker 3: come help.
Speaker 2: Me search for these guys. So the search party comes
Speaker 2: the next day. He takes them to the exact spot
Speaker 2: the door is. The door is gone, it's completely gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the rock face itself is very, very hot
Speaker 3: to the touch, and again it seems like the error
Speaker 3: is completely different around it. Everyone couldn't figure out what happened.
Speaker 3: They called him a liar, and he's like, we literally
Speaker 3: were right here. I left last night. They were here.
Speaker 3: Can you help me? Where have they gone? Nobody went
Speaker 3: and searched for them. Ever, again, no one talked about them.
Speaker 3: I couldn't find an actual news article on this. I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is just one of those old folks,
Speaker 3: you know, telling a story or whatnot. But on the
Speaker 3: other hand, we actually have documented proof of a good
Speaker 3: old girl in nineteen thirty four that was by them,
Speaker 3: that Edith Robinson lived in Pica Rivera and wrote a
Speaker 3: letter to a psychological research magazine in September of nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty four, which is around the time of when Warren's.
Speaker 2: Stuff completely failed as well.
Speaker 3: She stated in the letter that there was a vast
Speaker 3: ancient city below the ground with amazing art and architecture
Speaker 3: that happens, and that the tunnels running through went all
Speaker 3: the way to the sea. Two strangers never have met.
Speaker 3: Well could have read one of these stories, sure, But
Speaker 3: she wrote in detail about this city and how it was,
Speaker 3: and that these ancient people were down there that didn't
Speaker 3: seem appear to be human, that had a lot of
Speaker 3: technical advancements that had been hidden under there for a
Speaker 3: long time, and that these tunnels ran all over La
Speaker 3: ran all over to the sea themselves, ran all the
Speaker 3: way out to the sea, and that's how they were
Speaker 3: able to move continuously without any.
Speaker 2: Of us knowing.
Speaker 3: Wow, So we have three different incidents that all surround
Speaker 3: this situation with potential lizard people. And that's kind of
Speaker 3: where we're at when we jump into this article. Is
Speaker 3: all of this information about different stories of what potentially
Speaker 3: could be the lizard people.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, that's a lot to kind of process here,
Speaker 1: but okay, let's dive in here. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: the lizard people of Los Angeles, real or fantasy. When
Speaker 1: residents of Los Angeles opened the front page of the
Speaker 1: LA Time on the morning of January twenty ninth, nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty four, which we pulled up that article a moment ago,
Speaker 1: some of them might have spilled their coffee out of
Speaker 1: shock at seeing the headlines. It was strange and exciting,
Speaker 1: but there was also an error it read Lizard People's
Speaker 1: catacomb city hunted. Legends about the lizard people had always
Speaker 1: been around, but it must have been the first time
Speaker 1: print media featured a story about them. Jean Biquette Bosquett
Speaker 1: excuse me, an LA Times reporter wrote the story on
Speaker 1: the claims of g. Warren Schufeldt, a mining engineer. According
Speaker 1: to Schuefeldt, he had created a machine radio X ray
Speaker 1: that's a wild concept to throw together, but okay, and
Speaker 1: mapped the area, which displayed amazing things. Schuefeldt said the
Speaker 1: X ray showed a massive network of tunnels beneath Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: covering a vast area. Supposedly, these tunnels weren't built by
Speaker 1: our ancestors, but by another race called the lizard people.
Speaker 1: He also said that several locations in the tunnels contained treasure.
Speaker 1: The newspaper report that aroused curiosity. So did lizard people
Speaker 1: exist and inhabit the underground of modern LA or were
Speaker 1: they just rumors or folk tales of the past. We
Speaker 1: may never know, but it's an exciting theory many people believe,
Speaker 1: like shoe Felt believed it. There. Here is a quote
Speaker 1: from Jean Baquette's story dated January twenty ninth, nineteen thirty four,
Speaker 1: which actually already read that, So yeah, medicine Lodge of
Speaker 1: the American Indians. So yeah, we talked about that. The
Speaker 1: reporter must have been over excited because he hardly takes
Speaker 1: a breath to give the reader this exciting, weird information.
Speaker 1: The article continues by noting that sue Felt and his
Speaker 1: assistant truly believed there were tunnels and treasures under Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so they had already started digging and inserted a shaft
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty feet inside the earth. The shaft
Speaker 1: entrance was on North Hill Street. Shue Felt trusted his
Speaker 1: device entirely and therefore wanted to continue inserting the shaft
Speaker 1: below until it reached one thousand feet. He and his
Speaker 1: aides planned a star after that. If the venture yielded
Speaker 1: no positive results. The dig did not produce the desired outcome,
Speaker 1: so Schoefeld and his aides abandoned the project by December
Speaker 1: of that year. Along with the story, the newspaper also
Speaker 1: printed a map created by Schoefelt based on his findings
Speaker 1: from the X ray machine. Readers can understand the tunnel's
Speaker 1: structure by looking at an image on page five of
Speaker 1: the paper. The image showed an artist imagination of lizard
Speaker 1: people working in the top right corner. On the left
Speaker 1: hand side, it showed Schuefeldt and his assistant at the
Speaker 1: entrance of the shaft, and below the engineer working with
Speaker 1: his device. The series of tunnels occupied the center of
Speaker 1: the image or map, either way you won't call it.
Speaker 1: The tunnels were basically under the areas of Fort Moore Place,
Speaker 1: North Broadway and North Hill Street. The article indicated that
Speaker 1: Schuefelt and his aide believed that the lizard people had
Speaker 1: a quote unquote key room located under Broadway and Second Street.
Speaker 1: The key room was supposedly a place where the ancient
Speaker 1: race made plans and stored all their treasures, as well
Speaker 1: as important information written on gold tablets. Investigated by the
Speaker 1: Times Reporter into people's hunt for treasure indicated that some
Speaker 1: enthusiast dug but didn't find any significant amount of goal.
Speaker 1: The reporter also discovered that the Times report from around
Speaker 1: May nineteen thirty four said an old time prospector requested
Speaker 1: permission to dig on the hill, but the authorities denied it.
Speaker 1: It was because the country, or excuse me, it was
Speaker 1: because the county made a deal with Schoefelt and his
Speaker 1: assistant to split fifty to fifty any profits from the dig. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, So lizard people factor fantasy? What made g.
Speaker 1: Warren Schuefelt so convinced that lizard people really existed in
Speaker 1: the past and that they left behind a vast series
Speaker 1: of tunnels and gold underneath La. After Shufeldt's machine showed
Speaker 1: results that he believed indicated an extensive tunnel system, he
Speaker 1: met a hoping Native American in Arizona who told him
Speaker 1: the legend of the lizard people. According to the story
Speaker 1: in the La Times, the Hope's chief told Schufelt that
Speaker 1: around five thousand years ago, a massive inferno burned down
Speaker 1: the entire area of present day La. The inferno is
Speaker 1: said to have been caused by a meteorite. Therefore, the
Speaker 1: lizard people built at least three cities beneath the spot
Speaker 1: where La stands today. Is believed that the tunnel system
Speaker 1: is so vast that it reaches up to the sea coast. Okay,
Speaker 1: real quick, before we continue ravenly, I'm just curious here.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this could be aliens or do
Speaker 1: you think that the lizard people were here before the
Speaker 1: meteorite hit. Was the meteorite their spaceship and the hope
Speaker 1: Indians didn't know the difference between a spaceship versus meteor
Speaker 1: so they just saw it as one and the same.
Speaker 3: What is your take, Well, I mean, I think that
Speaker 3: if we were going to speculate that if the lizard
Speaker 3: people are real and stuff like this, that they would
Speaker 3: have to have been here before the fire itself, because
Speaker 3: they would have had to create a system of networks
Speaker 3: to be able to even get down there before the
Speaker 3: scene happened. But like, would they have known, would they
Speaker 3: have already been living there? That's how they were able
Speaker 3: to escape it?
Speaker 2: You know, it would be one of those things like
Speaker 2: is it aliens? I'm not sure? Is it just a
Speaker 2: random tale?
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's interesting though that multiple people.
Speaker 2: And then of course we have modern day theories of
Speaker 2: lizard people.
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of yeah, the reptilians, We've seen
Speaker 3: a bunch of videos of people you know, in government
Speaker 3: and all the weird eyes in Hollywood and all that
Speaker 3: shit where they look like they are not human. I
Speaker 3: would wager that like there at least has to be
Speaker 3: some kernel of truth in this story that has lasted
Speaker 3: for as long as it has, especially with the multiple
Speaker 3: stories and theories and things being written by complete strangers,
Speaker 3: all during the same time stating very similar things from
Speaker 3: their own experiences. This iron door situation is weird. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you, so.
Speaker 1: Which, Yeah, we're gonna get to that one next. But
Speaker 1: like I could see both possibly right, Like to say,
Speaker 1: the lizard people were here for thousands of years and
Speaker 1: they had already built this tunnel system. The meteorite hits
Speaker 1: and destroys their civilization above land, but they still survived
Speaker 1: under ground. Maybe because they were so technologically advanced, they
Speaker 1: knew the metea rite was coming and rather than like
Speaker 1: leaving the city to not get hit, they just burrowed.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could also envision the same thing
Speaker 1: as like, you know, they called the train the steel
Speaker 1: horse for a good long while the Native American tribes did, right.
Speaker 1: I could also see them calling a spaceship a meteorite,
Speaker 1: and that these reptilian aliens aka lizard people decided to
Speaker 1: set up shop on Earth and start to dig tunnels
Speaker 1: under the ground because they can't live on the surface.
Speaker 1: I could see both being very viable.
Speaker 2: I could see both too. I mean, there's way too
Speaker 2: many things.
Speaker 3: About all around the world that are dug deep in
Speaker 3: to the ground. I mean, twenty thousand people were living
Speaker 3: in a giant, like five story underground city that they built,
Speaker 3: and so, like you know, people, there's underground cities, that
Speaker 3: there's underground bunkers that have been around forever, that entire
Speaker 3: entire towns have hid for the sake of hiding.
Speaker 2: So, like, you know, it.
Speaker 3: Very well could be, like your theory makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense too, that they could have They could have
Speaker 3: been the Metia rights quote and then they got here
Speaker 3: and decided to set up shop.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a really interesting thing.
Speaker 3: So this is so this conversation is what nowadays conspiracy
Speaker 3: theorists based their Lizard People conversation off of. Like this
Speaker 3: was the original og Lizard People conversation because it was
Speaker 3: featured and they gave grants to this crazy person quote
Speaker 3: unquote if we really want to look at it, this
Speaker 3: crazy person is talking about, Hey, so I think there's
Speaker 3: like lizard people down there, like snake people down there
Speaker 3: with a whole bunch of treasure and shit. Can I
Speaker 3: use city property and go down and fuck this shit
Speaker 3: up and Leo see and.
Speaker 1: Really, oh sure, let me write you a check real quick.
Speaker 3: Yea, let me let me just write you this endless
Speaker 3: amount of check. And like it wasn't was crazy as
Speaker 3: that he had volunteers from like tons of people around
Speaker 3: helping him out too, Like people were really invested in
Speaker 3: what was happening and then abruptly suddenly would just stop.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's dig even deeper here. It says the
Speaker 1: term lizard people bestowed on the ancient race isn't because
Speaker 1: they were reptilian in nature, as some conspiracy theorist suggests today,
Speaker 1: or the kind shown in movies. Okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: article feeling a little personally attacked. I'm just asking the
Speaker 1: questions here. Dog anyway, bleaterly said Snake brothers. Yeah, just saying. Instead,
Speaker 1: they considered the lizard a vital being, as it symbolized
Speaker 1: long life. This race built the underground cities in the
Speaker 1: shape of a lizard. According to Chofeld's narrative, one of
Speaker 1: the cities shaped like a lizard below La had its
Speaker 1: head under Dodger Stadium. The site beneath Downtown Central Library
Speaker 1: was the Tales location, WHOA. The curiosity regarding the lizard
Speaker 1: people increased even more when the quote Journal of the
Speaker 1: American Society for Psychological or Psychic Psychical Research. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: It was psychological, but yep, nope, you're right.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about psychics here consorting with mediums on
Speaker 1: this one now.
Speaker 2: So that's where that lady's message went to.
Speaker 1: It had to be a lady from that absolutely received
Speaker 1: a letter from a woman on September twenty sixth, nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty four, who made some weird and shocking claims. The
Speaker 1: woman mentioned in the letter that she had a vision
Speaker 1: one evening on December twenty second, nineteen thirty three, while
Speaker 1: with some friends. According to reports, her friends also confirmed
Speaker 1: the lady's clairvoyant moment. She describes seeing two civilizations at
Speaker 1: different times. In her vision, one was more recent. One
Speaker 1: was a more recent one rather that had excellent, excelled
Speaker 1: in art and architecture, and surpassed whatever is present today.
Speaker 1: The other vision was of an older civilization with underground
Speaker 1: cities and giant tunnels, some extending to the oceans. She
Speaker 1: thought that this older civilization had built underground tunnels to
Speaker 1: deter attacks from others. And safeguarded society. Her friends said
Speaker 1: that miss Edith, that's the clairvoyant had the vision before
Speaker 1: the local media mentioned the lizard people. Whoa So now
Speaker 1: we have an alternate theory. Okay, let's hear what the
Speaker 1: naysayers are gonna say. While many people got curious about
Speaker 1: the lizard people, the tunnels, the buried treasure, others had
Speaker 1: different views reguarding the story. In the La Times, several
Speaker 1: individuals had said that the mining engineer's quote unquote discovery
Speaker 1: was nothing more than an attempt to gain attention, and
Speaker 1: that his claims were tall tales. The report said that
Speaker 1: g Warren Schufeldt spread the rumors so he could dig
Speaker 1: for the so called treasure. The theory emerged after it
Speaker 1: was compared with another rumor suggesting that Protestant graveyards in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties hailed significant treasures. I don't know why
Speaker 1: the Protestants would have treasures in their graves, but all right,
Speaker 1: as a Protestant, I don't want to be buried with
Speaker 1: nothing fancy. Fuck. I don't want to be buried, don't
Speaker 1: want to be burned. But okay, it was kind of
Speaker 1: a get rich quick scheme. Quote unquote with great promises
Speaker 1: but which delivered nothing. It seemed that the big that
Speaker 1: because the digs and hunts didn't yield anything that show
Speaker 1: Felt initially claimed. So now we get to the urban
Speaker 1: legend of the conversation. Whether it was a hoax or not,
Speaker 1: show Felt story about the network of underground tunnels and
Speaker 1: the lizard people has become an urban legend. Locals and
Speaker 1: visitors are still curious. And indeed, Shoefell's machine was right
Speaker 1: about one thing. There are tunnels beneath LA. Rumors abound
Speaker 1: that people use these tunnels to transport alcohol during the
Speaker 1: prohibition area. These tunnels are enormous, with some areas featuring
Speaker 1: huge hall like spaces, but they are considered natural formations
Speaker 1: rather than artificial I'm sorry there, what the eleven miles
Speaker 1: of tunnels that were dug by the businessmen and the
Speaker 1: bankers and all this, those are considered natural formations? What that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: The official narrative just because.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of gas pockets
Speaker 3: as well underneath LA and stuff, which are the natural
Speaker 3: forming tunnels and things like that. But I don't really
Speaker 3: see how giant haull like spaces like, obviously, if they're
Speaker 3: giant cavern, sure, but you're talking about things that people
Speaker 3: are utilizing and that pretty much did by there by hand.
Speaker 1: But like, okay, no, that's that's fucking asinine. Though the
Speaker 1: story says the lizard people were superior humans who revered lizards,
Speaker 1: another theory holds that they were not. According to this theory,
Speaker 1: they are called lizard people because they're reptilians who can
Speaker 1: shift shape at will. Now we're getting into our territory.
Speaker 1: The assumption is that the race has a serpent slash
Speaker 1: lizard head and a human body has already infiltrated humankind
Speaker 1: and it's taken the world. But that's a story for
Speaker 1: another time. No, it's not, well, it's not a story
Speaker 1: for right now. For real, we've all seen the clips
Speaker 1: of the news anchors whose eyes blank sideways are like
Speaker 1: little pincers.
Speaker 2: Kill all of them, all of.
Speaker 1: Them just saying when they feed off of adrenochrome. Clearly
Speaker 1: obviously and actually, as it sounds like I'm saying that
Speaker 1: in a joking manner, adrenochrome is real and the extraction
Speaker 1: of it is horrible, and I don't want to, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make light of that one. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the lizard people taking over the world for sure. Though
Speaker 1: the project was discontinued, Chofelt disappeared from public view and
Speaker 1: the story stopped in the papers, people's imaginations didn't. If
Speaker 1: anyone asks a resident about the lizard people, they're here
Speaker 1: the most amazing stories, rumor hoax, legend, or whatever people
Speaker 1: call it, there is something to ponder. Most legends have
Speaker 1: some truth to them, so who knows. Maybe there existed
Speaker 1: a race of super superiors to modern humans that built
Speaker 1: underground tunnels and cities. While there isn't any evidence yet,
Speaker 1: experts may they developed highly sophisticated devices that can, you know,
Speaker 1: capture images hundreds of thousands of feet beneath the ground.
Speaker 1: Only then will the answers be found and everyone will
Speaker 1: know whether they are indeed the famous tunnels and treasure trove.
Speaker 1: Until then, enthusiasts can read stories, ask old timers about it,
Speaker 1: and examine the map on various platforms. They can form
Speaker 1: their own opinions about the legendary superior humans because, whether
Speaker 1: real or not, no law prohibits people from fantasizing about
Speaker 1: anything absolutely and again, I mean, let's say it was
Speaker 1: a hoax. Let's say that your boy was trying to
Speaker 1: do something of a Ponzi scheme, like the guy did, right,
Speaker 1: and he just wanted to get government grant money to
Speaker 1: dig a big hole and then dip out, like he
Speaker 1: quit the project in less than a year's time. So yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that's true. Because radio x ray that that machine itself.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works. This is the first
Speaker 1: time ever heard of that. But like I mean, radio
Speaker 1: waves x ray sends out waves. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: I could see possibly that this whole thing was a
Speaker 1: hoax so you could make a quick buck and get
Speaker 1: out of there. But for him to consult with the
Speaker 1: Hopie and for them to say that these tunnels are
Speaker 1: natural formations as a way to like dispel it, and
Speaker 1: the fact that the government had signed a contract with
Speaker 1: him to split the treasure fifty to fifty tells me
Speaker 1: that he had to have either a he bankrolled a
Speaker 1: certain politician to approve his permit, which could be or
Speaker 1: b he had enough of a compelling argument to where
Speaker 1: these people at least were curious enough. They may not
Speaker 1: have believed him, but they were curious enough to give
Speaker 1: him exclusive exclusive digging rights for a bid, and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that for just any old person with
Speaker 1: a crazy story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's I don't think they would just give
Speaker 3: that away, especially because somebody had already tried and it
Speaker 3: was denied for it. So you know, it's it's one
Speaker 3: of those things of like, Okay, so if people already
Speaker 3: had tried to get permission to dig into this this
Speaker 3: whole situation, and they pull them no, and then old
Speaker 3: boy comes along and you know, if you look it up,
Speaker 3: it says it's a fake treasure hunting gadget that was
Speaker 3: like just a bullshit thing that was made and he
Speaker 3: like claimed it was something and it was just handmade
Speaker 3: tool basically.
Speaker 1: M I could I get. But that's the thing. I
Speaker 1: can see that being a possibility, honestly, especially with people
Speaker 1: doing so much shit to make a quick buck in
Speaker 1: LA I could see that. But is this is this
Speaker 1: really where that entire urban myth started was one dude's
Speaker 1: quote unquote hoax that is still being talked about to
Speaker 1: this day. I find that a bit odd, especially for
Speaker 1: it to run in the La Times.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not like this was some It was
Speaker 3: ran multiple times too, Like it was ran by multiple
Speaker 3: different ways and different people.
Speaker 2: And actually you can look.
Speaker 3: Up his case his petition case as well, and you
Speaker 3: can read at least some of it, which is I
Speaker 3: find it interesting. I tried really hard to read the
Speaker 3: entire thing. I could only read a small, like three
Speaker 3: lines of it, yeah, which we all know is way larger.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I got a weird feeling that this
Speaker 1: wasn't intended to be a hoax by any means. And
Speaker 1: I mean, like you're saying, this wasn't like some tabloid,
Speaker 1: This wasn't some little Nickelodeon rag that people were reading
Speaker 1: for the thrill of it, because you know, there was
Speaker 1: there was publications out there that were reading for entertainment sake.
Speaker 1: The La Times was reading for the spread of information
Speaker 1: to the people, and so were these other publications. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't know, y'all. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see, let's continue with this conversation. So lost the
Speaker 1: Golden Horde of LA's Lizard People. This is from so
Speaker 1: CAL Focus from PBS Public Broadcasting. So a golden thread
Speaker 1: runs through America's imagination, from her nand Cortes to Joseph
Speaker 1: Smith tow from her nand Jortes to the founder of
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church. That's funny, that's all right. We're making weird,
Speaker 1: weird connections on this one. But all right, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for the laughing at the Mountain Jews, Uh Vernon Cortez,
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith to George Warren Shufelt of Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: our imagination fabulous wealth wise hidden by time or sorcery
Speaker 1: under some hill somewhere left by Aztecs or men from
Speaker 1: Moo yeah MoU aka Lumeria which anyway, and waiting for
Speaker 1: a lucky someone to seize it. It even runs through
Speaker 1: California's motto Eureka Greek four I have found it. Which
Speaker 1: that's also kind of crazy that the story of how
Speaker 1: Eureka became Associo of California. Do you know that story?
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 1: Old boy the first one to find gold in a river.
Speaker 1: He's out there doing some sort of work, you know,
Speaker 1: frontiersman shit, he sees something shiny. He reaches down and
Speaker 1: pulls out a nugget of gold the size of his
Speaker 1: fists and goes Eureka.
Speaker 8: Yo.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, your average front here's been doesn't know Greek
Speaker 1: and wouldn't know that that is Greek for I have
Speaker 1: found it. But that is just one of those stories
Speaker 1: I know anyway, So let's continue here. So Glenn Creesen
Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Public Libraries map librarian reminded us
Speaker 1: the other day of Schoefelt's eureka on Fort Moore Hill,
Speaker 1: touched on these pages by Nathan Masters and Hadley Meres.
Speaker 1: Schue Felt, a mining engineer and inventor with the mysterious
Speaker 1: radio X ray device, claimed to have found treasure catacombs
Speaker 1: under Fort Moore Hill in nineteen thirty three. According to
Speaker 1: Rex McCreery and Ray Martin, who spoke of an ancient
Speaker 1: map they had schueound, Schoefelt's find was a vault of
Speaker 1: Spanish gold, or perhaps it was Aztec, it wasn't clear.
Speaker 1: In early nineteen thirty three, the three treasure hunters convinced
Speaker 1: the county Board of Supervisors that they should be authorized
Speaker 1: to dig. They offered an even split of the riches
Speaker 1: with the county. It seemed like a good idea in
Speaker 1: the worst year of the Great Depression, I would think.
Speaker 1: So everybody's desperate. They're like, yeah, fuck it, if he
Speaker 1: finds some gold down there from the Aztecs will split it,
Speaker 1: which a fifty to fifty hass get after it. By March,
Speaker 1: a crew of volunteer diggers hoping for a cut of
Speaker 1: the gold, had driven a twenty eight foot shaft into
Speaker 1: the hilltop. They found nothing but rocks and mud. Strangely,
Speaker 1: the treasure shaft was directly over an excavation for the
Speaker 1: new Broadway Tunnel. The tunnel workers boring through the hill
Speaker 1: hadn't found any Spanish or Aztec gold either. In September,
Speaker 1: the disappointed gold seekers let their county permit lapse. Alfred
Speaker 1: Scott took up the search, promising the Board of supervisors
Speaker 1: that he could reach the treasure vault with his own
Speaker 1: pick and shovel. He may have dug, but if he did,
Speaker 1: he didn't find anything. Schuefelt and his radio X ray
Speaker 1: returned in January nineteen thirty four with an even better story.
Speaker 1: It combined every pulp fiction trope of super science and
Speaker 1: thrilling adventure native American legend, a doomed civilization of lizard
Speaker 1: people from five thousand years ago, unknown technological marvels and
Speaker 1: vast caverns filled with wondrous revelations that actually does sound
Speaker 1: like a pretty rip snorting good time. It wasn't Spanish
Speaker 1: or even Aztec gold to lay under the old banning property,
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Times soberly reported, but the wealth of
Speaker 1: the Lizard Empire. Shoefelt had gotten back to Arizona and
Speaker 1: got the whole story directly from Chief Greenleaf, otherwise referred
Speaker 1: to as l. Macklin in the Times account. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they would use his native name instead of
Speaker 1: but whatever. Okay. Anyway, the Lizard people weren't actually lizards,
Speaker 1: it turned out, but refugees from a West Coast version
Speaker 1: of Atlantis. Hell yeah, it was meteors that did the
Speaker 1: lizard people did in the lizard people, according to Macklin's
Speaker 1: scrambled version of the Native American mythology. Shoe Felt, with
Speaker 1: Macklin's guidance, Macklin, being Chief Greenleaf in County Permit, began
Speaker 1: a new excavation on Fort Moore Hill in early nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty four, hoping to tap the maze of tunnels and
Speaker 1: vaults the Lizard people had bored by means of an
Speaker 1: unknown chemical solution.
Speaker 3: Interesting, yeah, so they actually supposedly bored two hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty five tunnels. WHOA, So that's apparently the story from
Speaker 3: the Hopie people is that they had two hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty five tunnels and they had over one thousand families
Speaker 3: down there, and that this.
Speaker 2: That he had found.
Speaker 3: That Warren had found one nine hundred feet of tunnels
Speaker 3: and rooms that were nine thousand square feet in floor
Speaker 3: space for floor.
Speaker 2: Space, excuse me. Wow.
Speaker 3: He also claimed that he found sixteen places where the
Speaker 3: Lizard people had stored their gold, seeing that the great
Speaker 3: treasure troves were the key rooms hidden deep within the
Speaker 3: Times Times Mirror Square.
Speaker 2: And this is where he said to have.
Speaker 3: A map of thirty seven great golden tablets four feet
Speaker 3: long and fourteen inches wide. So there was thirty seven
Speaker 3: gold tablets, by the way.
Speaker 1: And he was able to see this from his X
Speaker 1: ray radio device.
Speaker 3: All right, apparently I haven't seen this article. I just
Speaker 3: found this article that actually gives me way more detail
Speaker 3: than what the other ones were. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: so you're reading this, I'm finding more information over here.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I didn't even know because I couldn't
Speaker 3: find actual details of this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to read that one instead
Speaker 1: of this when a movie can this, one's kind of
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he had started the dig, left
Speaker 1: found the native chief, and then came back to dig again.
Speaker 3: So I didn't realize that either, because when I listened
Speaker 3: to everything and when I read the other articles, it
Speaker 3: didn't never.
Speaker 2: State that he It stated the way that.
Speaker 3: He happened was he found stuff and then he went
Speaker 3: and talked to them, and then he went and got
Speaker 3: the permits. But I guess that's actually not the way
Speaker 3: it was because a lot of the different things keep changing,
Speaker 3: like different things keep little small details keep changing.
Speaker 2: But you know, who knows at this point. It's one
Speaker 2: of those things.
Speaker 3: That's like lost in time of what actually was the truth?
Speaker 1: Right, So Shoefelts exploratory chef eventually reached the depth of
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty feet when the attention of the
Speaker 1: times ran out and mud and water began pouring in.
Speaker 1: If Schoefelt and the other treasure hunters at Fort Moore
Speaker 1: Hill were running a confident scam, their victims were remarkably
Speaker 1: quiet about after being burned. Perhaps investors were so convinced
Speaker 1: by the story or stories that their losses were accounted
Speaker 1: bad luck. If there were any investors at all. Maybe
Speaker 1: they were just simply embarrassed. Others kept on looking for
Speaker 1: a golden Eureka of lost wealth, including Okay, there's another
Speaker 1: article about the next guy's a look, Yeah, shoe felt
Speaker 1: stayed on too, dying in North Hollywood in nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1: By then, the lizard people of Los Angeles had seemingly
Speaker 1: disappeared except as textbook examples of bizarre Los Angeles, but
Speaker 1: they had gone to populate a darker narrative of forgotten
Speaker 1: worlds and unknown races, in which golden thread of the
Speaker 1: American imagination leads not to unearned riches, but to ancient UFOs,
Speaker 1: sinister aliens, and sometimes paranoia. Okay, fair enough. So.
Speaker 3: I also states that the Dentons boulders made it hard
Speaker 3: going going after hitting the water. That's why they decided
Speaker 3: the mud was like the biggest issue. Somewhere around two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty to three hundred and fifty feet, the
Speaker 3: team was forced to give up. Exactly why remains completely unclear.
Speaker 3: Summer reports claim that there was a cave in the
Speaker 3: other ones state that this just lost they just lost interest.
Speaker 3: Another one states that the funds dried up. And that
Speaker 3: the team ran out of money. But they were all volunteers,
Speaker 3: by the way, so that it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: These three things could be true at the same time,
Speaker 1: Like there may they could. Yeah, it may have been
Speaker 1: a cave in around the time the investors decided to
Speaker 1: pull out, and around the time that they were like, look,
Speaker 1: we already had this happen, and this happened, it's time
Speaker 1: to pack it in and they lost interests like these
Speaker 1: they're not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it says basically after that his team
Speaker 3: just completely him and his team just completely disappeared, popped
Speaker 3: again one time, and nineteen fifty seven the year that
Speaker 3: he died, and then vanished obviously from history again. They
Speaker 3: never found any evidence of the gold or the lizard people.
Speaker 3: Was it all a con Some experts believe it potentially
Speaker 3: could have been.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, so I guess.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy two, San Jose man hiking in Mount
Speaker 3: Shassa claim to see a lizard person wearing a shirt
Speaker 3: and trousers also hiking on the mountaintop. Furthermore, five weeks
Speaker 3: before Warren even began his dig, a woman in port
Speaker 3: that's the one I was talking about Edith also claimed
Speaker 3: that she had evidence and that it was five weeks
Speaker 3: before he even did anything, before the story even broke,
Speaker 3: She had this claim that she wrote.
Speaker 1: In about so that's wild.
Speaker 3: Everybody can take that information with what they want and
Speaker 3: kind of like make up, you know, I guess figure
Speaker 3: out if you want to believe if he was actually
Speaker 3: tell and.
Speaker 2: The truth or not.
Speaker 3: But I thought it was quite interesting the conversation of
Speaker 3: lizard people and how this is actually a real conversation
Speaker 3: that happened in nineteen thirty four.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And with that, now we go to the mysterious uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Joshua Tree iron door cave. So this is
Speaker 1: what you were talking about, right, Raven? Is this the
Speaker 1: actual iron door?
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: So Joshua Tree and La are like by each other, right,
Speaker 3: but I think this is actually a different one. Okay,
Speaker 3: So this is just I when I typed it in,
Speaker 3: this is came up and I was like, well, that's
Speaker 3: kind of an odd because so Joshua Tree is, when
Speaker 3: I say, by each other, Joshua Tree is around one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty miles away from La. Oh so it's
Speaker 3: about a two hour two and a half hour drive.
Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, they're sitting there kind of by each other.
Speaker 3: But this is another claim to this iron door. And
Speaker 3: I actually didn't get a chance to fully read this our.
Speaker 3: I thought it was an interesting but I was kind
Speaker 3: of in the thing. But I saw it and I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, So hmm, there's another iron door being claimed.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's read in a little bit here. So
Speaker 1: like nothing embodies Josh's Joshua Tree National Park alien funk
Speaker 1: VI like the integration of a thirty eight foot high,
Speaker 1: fifty five foot diameter rejuvenation and time machine based on
Speaker 1: the design of Moses's tabernacle, the writing of Nikolai Tesla,
Speaker 1: and telepathic directions from extraterrestrials. Well, I'm already low. Let's
Speaker 1: see what's going on here.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. Man, shit, we.
Speaker 1: Got we got this massive rejuvenation time machine thing based
Speaker 1: on Moses, Nikolay Tesla, and aliens. Yeah, I'm here, dud,
Speaker 1: Let's see what's up. The magnificent all wooden Dome, completed
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, was the brainshout of George van
Speaker 1: tassel erstwhile host of the annual Rock Spacecraft Convention and
Speaker 1: author of the Council of Seven Lights. The entire Joshua
Speaker 1: Tree province, wrote Van Tassel is cited on a powerful
Speaker 1: geomagnetic vortex, making it the third most cosmic place on Earth.
Speaker 1: See this, This is what I thought when I heard
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree, because I'm not sure how close it is
Speaker 1: to like Sonoma. But a lot of I'm not just
Speaker 1: gonna say like alien believers, because you know, I am one,
Speaker 1: a lot of like hippie dippy people talk about how
Speaker 1: like they had such a crazy spiritual experience in Joshua Tree,
Speaker 1: like there's race.
Speaker 2: It looks like we can't I got locked out.
Speaker 3: I was able to read this, but it looks like
Speaker 3: we don't get to read all of this and stuff.
Speaker 2: So this I'm sorry for everybody.
Speaker 3: This wasn't actually I saw it and I was like
Speaker 3: another iron door situation.
Speaker 2: I should have read the whole article.
Speaker 1: But WHOA, Yes, is the dome.
Speaker 2: That's the dome that they created?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is a part of like some sort
Speaker 1: of like an ayahuasca retreat or something which is dope,
Speaker 1: which is dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on I think it's a on the National
Speaker 3: Park too, So it's one of those things.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so the so the iron door that I
Speaker 2: was speaking about.
Speaker 3: Sorry that kind of threw us off, But the iron
Speaker 3: door conversation was the information that I was able to
Speaker 3: give you guys earlier is basically, whatever this thing is
Speaker 3: is rumored. I guess this poses a question of vanishing doors.
Speaker 3: Like so that whole situation where people have taken videos
Speaker 3: or seen videos in Alaska and Antarctica with these big
Speaker 3: doors and then they go back and they're gone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's at least with the conversation of the
Speaker 3: people that they all said the same thing that the
Speaker 3: stones and the door when they was present, was very
Speaker 3: warm to the touch, the air was very weird. Not
Speaker 3: one person could say exactly where it was because every
Speaker 3: time they went back it was gone.
Speaker 2: It moved.
Speaker 3: So can you take that, You take that with what
Speaker 3: you want. It could be totally men just being men
Speaker 3: and you know, being drunk out there and just then.
Speaker 2: Just men under it. I'm sorry, it was just men
Speaker 2: out there, Like, let's be honestly.
Speaker 3: We're talking about like the nineteen thirty three like thirty three,
Speaker 3: thirty four, thirty five, women ain't out there.
Speaker 1: Women claiming that the lizard people story is real.
Speaker 3: That women she was she was in her house, like
Speaker 3: she was with friends. She wasn't out in them hiking
Speaker 3: up these hills and all this shit.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make the joke the door was wide.
Speaker 3: Open, but just stating that during that time period it was,
Speaker 3: well that's nine point nine nine percent, it was going
Speaker 3: to be a man. So like men be out there
Speaker 3: drinking and like you know, doing things maybe.
Speaker 1: Boring and building boring.
Speaker 3: And you know they maybe it just happened to be
Speaker 3: all of these people for a hundred years just happened
Speaker 3: to have the same weird, you know, situation.
Speaker 2: It's possible, it's you know, quote.
Speaker 3: Unquot but for generations throughout the towns that were surrounding
Speaker 3: this area, they all had stated the same thing, that
Speaker 3: they saw this door and that no one could understand it,
Speaker 3: No one knew who built it. The damn thing keeps vanishing,
Speaker 3: keeps moving places. It is clearly something that a lot
Speaker 3: of people have seen experience. People had There had been
Speaker 3: lots of rumors for over one hundred years of men
Speaker 3: going up into these the hills and just completely disappearing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know some would come down with nothing in
Speaker 3: their hands. Some would never come down at all, and
Speaker 3: people were just like, Yep, it's a risk you take.
Speaker 3: And then there's warn And talking about his stuff. And
Speaker 3: at the same time those four men disappearing the same
Speaker 3: year and that woman before him talking about the lizard people.
Speaker 3: So you guys can take whatever you want from this.
Speaker 3: But I thought, as we're talking about tunnels and things
Speaker 3: that could go out to the ocean, that we all believe,
Speaker 3: or at least some of us believe that there is
Speaker 3: aliens in the ocean for sure, that if it really
Speaker 3: was as an alien race, maybe they are transversing back
Speaker 3: and forth between these tunnels and the ocean.
Speaker 1: Also worth mentioning, uh So, a lot of times when
Speaker 1: we talk about underground places like this, lizard people and
Speaker 1: mole people get brought up in the same context, almost interchangeably.
Speaker 1: So to my knowledge, with the research that we have done,
Speaker 1: we didn't see anything as far as like mole people
Speaker 1: living under La. There was a lot of lost.
Speaker 3: Stories about Las Vegas and New York are the places
Speaker 3: that we will get to that has mole people.
Speaker 1: Right, But as far as under La goes, all we
Speaker 1: can find was the lizard people. We're all in the
Speaker 1: same yes.
Speaker 3: And also and also I know a lot of people
Speaker 3: are going to bring this up because of the videos
Speaker 3: that are circling all over the internet. Subtroplis is not
Speaker 3: actually in LA. I did way too much research trying
Speaker 3: to figure out if it was in LA or not.
Speaker 3: It's actually in Kansas, Missouri. So when we start going
Speaker 3: across the country, I am definitely going to do a
Speaker 3: big one on this this because that's been the big
Speaker 3: focal point for the least the last six months of
Speaker 3: these videos that you see popping up on your feeds
Speaker 3: and stuff of like, did you see this giant underground
Speaker 3: city and it has McDonald's and all this stuff and
Speaker 3: it's underneath La and blah blah blah. It's actually not
Speaker 3: underneath La, but there is a whole bunch of tunnels
Speaker 3: and a whole bunch of shit underneath LA.
Speaker 2: So that that doesn't take away from the conversation.
Speaker 1: But yes, absolutely So, Now with that, let's get back
Speaker 1: to the underground of LA and one of the more
Speaker 1: you know, specific individuals when you think of you know,
Speaker 1: the what you might call LA Royalty at one point
Speaker 1: in time. Let's talk a little Hugh Heffner. Let's talk
Speaker 1: a little Playboy Mansion, and he really was a despicable
Speaker 1: human being. And I know, listen, cult members, if there's
Speaker 1: anybody out there that does not know much about old
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner, here's the deal. Although he tried to give
Speaker 1: off this persona that he was just trying to.
Speaker 2: You know, give women empowerment.
Speaker 1: Women empowerment, tasteful nudity, all these things, we're we're about
Speaker 1: to you know, cut back the layers on some of this.
Speaker 1: But the reason why specifically we're gonna start talking about
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner on this particular episode is because the secret
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion tunnels that led to the Hollywood homes of
Speaker 1: celebrity casanova's. And there's some controversy surrounding these tunnels. Some
Speaker 1: are gonna say that they were never dug. There was
Speaker 1: blueprints that were you know, drawn up, but they weren't
Speaker 1: actually ever dug. And then there's others that will say
Speaker 1: no because he hosted pig parties every Thursday night and
Speaker 1: the pumps and their hookers came to the Playboy Mansion
Speaker 1: via the tunnels, and there's first hand accounts of this.
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna get into it here. This is
Speaker 1: from the messy Nessi's cabinet. I thought that was funny.
Speaker 1: And on screen right now is a picture of the
Speaker 1: official blueprint from the Playboy Mansion. The stairway going down.
Speaker 1: There's two separate tunnels at least in this one picture,
Speaker 1: and let's get into it here. So, the editorial staff
Speaker 1: at Playboy dot com recently revealed that they have discovered
Speaker 1: a bunch of dusty old blueprints, plans, and photographs of
Speaker 1: an unfinished basement area of the Playboy Mansion, which unveil
Speaker 1: a network of underground tunnels that allegedly linked Hefner's notorious
Speaker 1: bachelor's Pad to the home of mister Jack Nicholson, w Beatty,
Speaker 1: Kurt Douglas, and Jay Caine during the late seventies and eighties.
Speaker 1: And if you recognize some of those names.
Speaker 2: They're not Kurt Douglas.
Speaker 1: Oh, y know, Kurt Douglas was not a good man
Speaker 1: at all, but like, yeah, you know, until now, Playboy
Speaker 1: journalists themselves have have been kept in the dark about
Speaker 1: these secret tunnels, which is somewhat surprising since Playboy did
Speaker 1: begin first and foremost as an editorial magazine, and this,
Speaker 1: to say the least, is quite the scoop, and they
Speaker 1: have more pictures. By the way, they have polaroids on
Speaker 1: screen of them digging into and tunneling in the basement
Speaker 1: of the Playboy Mansion. That's what these pictures are. The
Speaker 1: clues to the story were hiding in the office archives
Speaker 1: all this time, polaroids dated to nineteen seventy seven that
Speaker 1: showed large excavation projects at the residence. When editorial staff
Speaker 1: contacted the mansion about the polaroids they had stumbled upon,
Speaker 1: the mansion's current general manager responded, quote very matter of
Speaker 1: factly and told the journalists that's probably when they built
Speaker 1: the tunnels in the seventies. So like it's understood these
Speaker 1: tunnels exist. So for any of the naysayers, they Playboy
Speaker 1: has acknowledged them. But all right, let's continue a little Dumbfounded,
Speaker 1: the editorial team promptly made their way over to the
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion and were given access by mansion staff to
Speaker 1: a basement area, where they pretty much went nuts over
Speaker 1: the treasure trove. They found there old photos, plans, and
Speaker 1: blueprints clearly indicating that these tunnels led specifically to the
Speaker 1: home of Jack Nicholson, Kirk Douglas, James can and of
Speaker 1: course mister Warren Beattie, who all lived nearby. And there's
Speaker 1: a close up for the record of this. It says
Speaker 1: clearance may vary northbound tunnel to mister J. Nicholson residence,
Speaker 1: there was a drainage pipe, pedestrian walkway. All this was
Speaker 1: written on the blueprints. This is not some sort of
Speaker 1: a modern hoax. These are discovered and acknowledged by the
Speaker 1: Playboy company. And here you actually I'm gonna see if I
Speaker 1: coul zoom in to see, I believe this is actually
Speaker 1: too okay. This is the mister W. B. D resident's
Speaker 1: north elevation and it shows how they were going to
Speaker 1: have to do this tunnel. They were debating if they
Speaker 1: were going to go higher or lower. There's a higher
Speaker 1: risk area due to aquifers. They had all this planned out.
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner had gone as far as to talk to
Speaker 1: the city about what was there to see where he
Speaker 1: could dig.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3: It's a far jaunt too, Like that's not just like
Speaker 3: some little like poop little you know, yeah, rockaway like
Speaker 3: through that's a how far do you think that is?
Speaker 1: Like I don't really know because they show like Sunset
Speaker 1: Boulevard was around this point. Let's see if I could
Speaker 1: zoom in on this one. Los Angeles County or country
Speaker 1: Club was around this area. The Charging cross Road was
Speaker 1: around this area. So I mean they lived nearby, right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like they were going miles by any means,
Speaker 1: but even still it was a It was a good
Speaker 1: little walk, but it would also be a lot easier
Speaker 1: to walk that rather than drive and be seen in
Speaker 1: all these things, especially for the higher you know, echelon
Speaker 1: of the fancy tops. But they also showed this same
Speaker 1: tunnel was going to be tied into Jack Nicholson's residence
Speaker 1: and Kirk Douglas's residence. The the mister J. Caine residence
Speaker 1: was going the opposite direction. So this one tunnel was
Speaker 1: supposed to it go to three different residents to the
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion. So the scoop of a lifetime, or at
Speaker 1: least a pretty epic one, just sitting there all these
Speaker 1: years in this dark basement, and this is clearly the
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion. This is where the basement was going to
Speaker 1: lead to the stairway, all the things. It's absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 1: But when Playboy dot COM's team asked to see the
Speaker 1: actual tunnel. A staff member said off the record that
Speaker 1: he'd heard they were closed up sometime in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: the same year mister Heffner married playmate Kimberly Conrad. The
Speaker 1: Playboy journalist then reached out to mister Heffner's reps for Nicholson, Caine,
Speaker 1: Douglas Embattie, but none of them wish to agree to comment. Shocker,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I wonder why.
Speaker 1: Well, when we get to later articles that I have
Speaker 1: pulled up, Raven, it's gonna be abundantly clear because a
Speaker 1: lot of the truth about Hugh Hefner didn't come out
Speaker 1: until he was dead. Oh yeah, your boy was basically
Speaker 1: Epsty before Epstein. And we're gonna get to all of
Speaker 1: this anyway. The team is now making a plea for
Speaker 1: more information to readers and their dads who might be
Speaker 1: any it might have any chance of being hanging around
Speaker 1: secret entrances to basement tunnels at the mansion in the
Speaker 1: seventies or eighties. This is Hugh Hefner and his new
Speaker 1: bride at the mansion back in the day. It seems
Speaker 1: a little fishing to me. We all know very well
Speaker 1: that Simmy retired Loathery's, Nicholson, Beattie and the like got
Speaker 1: up to no good in the good old days. Why
Speaker 1: would mister Hefner want to keep such a fascinating story
Speaker 1: from his own magazine. What more could these tunnels be hiding? Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it here. This is a direct quotes
Speaker 1: from Heffner's former valet reflects on pig Nights with hookers
Speaker 1: and hef So for anybody who has never heard of
Speaker 1: what these pig knights were, I'm gonna give you the
Speaker 1: rundown that we're gonna read the article to kind of
Speaker 1: confirm in all these things, because I found multiple articles.
Speaker 1: I found multiple first hand accounts and even some recordings
Speaker 1: of the people talking about this. Every Thursday night, without fail,
Speaker 1: every Thursday night, Hugh Hefner would host pig nights. And
Speaker 1: what he would do is get in contact with every
Speaker 1: pimp down Sunset and would ask them like to come
Speaker 1: to his parties and there'd be a big party, big dinner,
Speaker 1: you know, tons of drugs, tons of all the stuff,
Speaker 1: all this and essentially see Hugh Hefner, although he hosted
Speaker 1: a lot of big orgies and all these things, he
Speaker 1: wasn't really big on participating in these events. He loved
Speaker 1: sitting in his chair and smoking his weed and watching
Speaker 1: these things. Even in his own bedroom. He had cameras
Speaker 1: installed pretty much every square inch of the Playboy Mansion,
Speaker 1: the grotto, all these things, all like ooh, what happens
Speaker 1: her stays here? Yeah, except for the fact that he
Speaker 1: had rooms after rooms after rooms of tapes back in
Speaker 1: the day when like VHS was all like, that's the
Speaker 1: best you could do of the things that were going
Speaker 1: down at the Playboy Mansion twenty four to seven. Right,
Speaker 1: this was before we had hard drives and memory banks
Speaker 1: and all this. You had had to have hard copies
Speaker 1: of all this. And he was somebody who and you
Speaker 1: might ask if he was doing this for black male purposes. Listen,
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine. I would say yes, personally.
Speaker 1: But he would sit there and watch. He would hire
Speaker 1: professional male porn stars and some of the names actually
Speaker 1: are going to be brought up in this article, who
Speaker 1: are like way too well endowed to basically break these women.
Speaker 1: And he would, you know, sometimes if they were so injured,
Speaker 1: he would like have his valet send them to the
Speaker 1: hospital and like cut them a check and fuck them
Speaker 1: they're a hooker. It didn't matter. When he would call
Speaker 1: the pimps, he would ask how many pigs do you
Speaker 1: have coming to the party tonight. That's why they were
Speaker 1: called pig nights. And he was just hiring guys to
Speaker 1: just absolutely destroy these women, regardless of what happened next.
Speaker 1: And he was recording all of it, and that that's
Speaker 1: what he got off to. That's what this man was about.
Speaker 3: There was a lot from his ex girlfriends and stuff
Speaker 3: about his life, but there was a lot. I watched
Speaker 3: the you remember that show they had on MTV where
Speaker 3: they like follow them around and stuff.
Speaker 2: I watched that and I always thought that was really creepy.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of things that didn't like add
Speaker 3: up also and stuff. And then when you finally hear
Speaker 3: about their interviews and like what they've been through and
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And then the older women that worked.
Speaker 3: At the Hugh Hefner he had he had a bar,
Speaker 3: didn't he the club?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The Playboy club that they that he had.
Speaker 3: Maybe it would New York the one that he always
Speaker 3: visited though, like the and they talked like about how
Speaker 3: he was and how he would like view women and
Speaker 3: what he would say and do and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Old boy was just absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 1: Oh he hated women like he them. But and then
Speaker 1: cut too in the same conversation, which we will be
Speaker 1: talking about in a bit, so he it wasn't just
Speaker 1: for adult women. He also was I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: Young friends were virgins too, and he loved, well, he
Speaker 3: loved taking the virginities. The twins were virgins, like that
Speaker 3: was that was a whole thing for him. He would
Speaker 3: force him to have sex with them the night that
Speaker 3: they were in the mansion.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and and multiple clubs he hosted these nights where
Speaker 1: he had young boys dressed in the bunny costume. And
Speaker 1: by young boys, I do in fact mean like under
Speaker 1: the age of like fifteen, like ten twelve, thirteen year
Speaker 1: old boys dressed in the bunny costumes being the waitresses
Speaker 1: at these clubs, straight up chieboy shit, like with no weirdness.
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, oh wow, that's a thing tonight. It's like, wait,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? And this is
Speaker 1: also from the same guy, and I've mentioned it a
Speaker 1: few times. We're gonna do it. We're gonna read an
Speaker 1: article about it in a minute. Who hosts or who
Speaker 1: basically published the Sugar and Spice edition of Playboy, where
Speaker 1: the girls were extremely young. One of them, a girl
Speaker 1: you might know now as the actress Brooke Shields, was
Speaker 1: modeled full nude at ten years old. The worst part
Speaker 1: of that is that her mother signed off on it,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 1: So when we talk about his affinity for watching very
Speaker 1: disgusting acts and recording everything in the house, and these
Speaker 1: tunnels that are allegedly or not allegedly, they are confirmed,
Speaker 1: like built the pig Knights with the hookers and all that,
Speaker 1: let's just go into it and please understand that while
Speaker 1: so many people saw Hugh Hefner as like a visionary,
Speaker 1: he's iconic, he's this, he was a absolutely disgusting human being.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it here. So from nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 1: through nineteen seventy nine, Stefan Tattenbaum, who is this guy
Speaker 1: sitting in this chair right here? If you were on Patreon,
Speaker 1: you could see him worked as Hugh Hefner's valet, doing
Speaker 1: everything from restocking Playboy's founder's fridge with necessities like perfectly
Speaker 1: chilled pepsi and cleaning sex toys. After Hefner's infamous pig Nights,
Speaker 1: when the rogue clad, hef would call in prostitutes for
Speaker 1: his friends. Tettenbaum, now sixty seven and a sculptor living
Speaker 1: in Redono Beach, California, shares his stories with the post.
Speaker 1: My job as mister Hefner's valet was to take care
Speaker 1: of him in a very personal way. I prepared his
Speaker 1: sick menu, which was Pepsi, Campbell's chicken noodle soup and
Speaker 1: Eminem's whenever he felt ill, which was often because he
Speaker 1: was a hypochondriac. I also made sure that the maids
Speaker 1: took all the sex toys down to the basement after
Speaker 1: use and washed and sterilized them before returning the gadgets
Speaker 1: to the secret compartment above his bed. On certain nights,
Speaker 1: mister Hefner had prostitutes brought up to the mansion and
Speaker 1: he would entertain them with a big dinner and invite
Speaker 1: his friends to come and participate in different intimate acts
Speaker 1: with them. It was called pig Night. Sometimes the women
Speaker 1: had penises, and Hefner didn't want to be involved with that,
Speaker 1: although some of the other guests, especially John Belushi, they
Speaker 1: didn't mind. Now, I don't know if that's confirmed or not,
Speaker 1: but there it is. Hugh most of the time never
Speaker 1: had sex with women. He was more interested in watching.
Speaker 1: He would hire famous male porn stars, including John Holmes,
Speaker 1: with huge penises, and watch them have sex with different
Speaker 1: girls he brought in. Hugh sat there in his favorite chair,
Speaker 1: smoking a joint and eating red liquorice and watching. I
Speaker 1: had to go into the room afterwards, and if the
Speaker 1: girls couldn't walk, I had to have I would have
Speaker 1: to escort them to the bedroom so that they could recuperate.
Speaker 1: Hef sometimes gave bonuses to women because the sex acts
Speaker 1: were so painful. Yeah, this is the guy pie. Like
Speaker 1: I said, y'all, this was Epstein. Before Epstein. He always
Speaker 1: filmed the encounters. He had two large video cameras over
Speaker 1: his bed and had these giant screens across from his bed.
Speaker 1: He had a whole library for these sex acts with
Speaker 1: different people. And the video librarian told me have planned
Speaker 1: to use the footage against his associates if they ever
Speaker 1: threatened to come out with a memoir about him or
Speaker 1: the mansion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, it's crazy tale as old as time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? For many people, the Playboy
Speaker 1: mansion was a safe haven from the proparazzi and private detectives.
Speaker 1: A married comedian came for years, bringing different girls to
Speaker 1: have sex with. I had to take many food trays
Speaker 1: into the room where he was with these girls. There
Speaker 1: was always cocaine around, though Heffner did not partake, preferring weed.
Speaker 1: He would often have parties where he invited all the
Speaker 1: marijuana growers in California to the house. The entire grounds
Speaker 1: were under surveillance. There were cameras everywhere, and all the
Speaker 1: phones were bugged. The staff had to be very careful,
Speaker 1: and the men weren't allowed to speak to any of
Speaker 1: HEF's girls or socialized with them. But if one of
Speaker 1: hef'sus bunnies, I'm sorry. If one of HEF's bunnies was
Speaker 1: out by the swimming pool and requested a lobster or
Speaker 1: a cheeseburger, you deliver it to her and put the
Speaker 1: tray between her legs. While she oiled her legs, you'd
Speaker 1: see all the sorts of toys that were attached to
Speaker 1: her vaginal areas. That's weird, but all right. The girls
Speaker 1: loved to tease me. You also weren't supposed to be married.
Speaker 1: If you worked for Hef. It was one of the rules,
Speaker 1: which somehow he ignored for me since my wife also
Speaker 1: worked at the mansion as a greeter during the parties. Wow,
Speaker 1: Heff was not Yeah, Heff wasn't a kind man. If
Speaker 1: he tasted the pepsi and it wasn't cold enough, he
Speaker 1: would throw it away and call me to replace it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever even knew my name.
Speaker 1: He would just call me Valet. He was very brutal
Speaker 1: to his girlfriends and sex partners. He made sure they
Speaker 1: had breast implants. In those days, the implants were new
Speaker 1: and they would shift and burst, and I witnessed many
Speaker 1: women who had this done, begging and crying to have
Speaker 1: to help them, and he would put them back in
Speaker 1: the hospital and discard these women. He didn't care. They
Speaker 1: were disposable. I really didn't feel anything when I heard
Speaker 1: that half died. He started out as an innovator and
Speaker 1: was a very liberal guy. He was pro abortion and
Speaker 1: gay rights in marijuana. He was very ahead of his time,
Speaker 1: and then when he moved to Chicago, or from Chicago
Speaker 1: to Hombly Hills, he became just another dirty, old rich man. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is from a former valet for Hugh Hefner,
Speaker 1: and there are tons, tons of stories of first hand
Speaker 1: accounts from these pig nights. This is not just like
Speaker 1: an article you could find. There's literally tons. So to
Speaker 1: circle back, some of the valets have come forward and
Speaker 1: said that they were picking up these women and their
Speaker 1: pimps on the carts and driving through the tunnels to
Speaker 1: get to the mansion rather than have you know, because
Speaker 1: these pig knights weren't. You're Hugh Hefner, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You got bunnies, these women, the most gorgeous
Speaker 1: women on earth. All of this, you want them to
Speaker 1: be in the limelight, the hookers from Sunset and their pimps.
Speaker 1: You don't want them pulling up and having people see
Speaker 1: them pull up to your establishment. That lowers the caliber.
Speaker 1: So he would sneak them in through the underground tunnels
Speaker 1: and they would make their way up the stairs and
Speaker 1: into these bedrooms where he would just watch men do
Speaker 1: horrible shit to them and record it just so he
Speaker 1: could enjoy it. He was a sick, sick, disgusting guy.
Speaker 1: It anyway, moving forward to the next article, and again,
Speaker 1: as we were talking about moving people through the tunnels,
Speaker 1: under the Playboy mansion, and we talked about the male
Speaker 1: the young boys that he had at other establishments, and
Speaker 1: some of these prostitutes were also of the trans varieties.
Speaker 1: So just any and everything went as far as half
Speaker 1: was concerned, because he was all about like sexual liberation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to the level of his own publication showing a young
Speaker 1: Brooks Shields on screen right now, thankfully covered up to
Speaker 1: where you cannot see the nude parts of her body.
Speaker 1: This is Brookshields when she was ten years old in
Speaker 1: as a centerfold to the Sugar and Spice addition of
Speaker 1: Playboy magazine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so discussing, so.
Speaker 1: Do we think it was just women and our adults
Speaker 1: that was being traveled in your trafficked I should say
Speaker 1: through these tunnels to helf, I personally don't think so. Right,
Speaker 1: it is a buyer's market after all, as let's talk
Speaker 1: about it here. The Richard Prince photograph of Brooks Shields
Speaker 1: that Tate Modern recently withdrew from the exhibit exhibition Pop
Speaker 1: Life after Scotland Yard suggested it might break obscenity laws. Yo,
Speaker 1: fucking might anyway, traveled across the Atlantic, carrying a long
Speaker 1: history of controversy. It shows a tear year old, shields
Speaker 1: oiled and glistened, naked and make made up, posing in
Speaker 1: a marble bathtub with a seductive danger that beliles her years.
Speaker 1: She has, in Prince's description quote, a body with two
Speaker 1: different sexes maybe more, and a head that looks like
Speaker 1: it got a different birthday. What a fucked up description
Speaker 1: of a ten year old in a playboy.
Speaker 2: Terrible, Like the whole thing is horrible.
Speaker 3: I've actually looked into this before and like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: and the pictures are just absolutely terrible too, like and
Speaker 3: like it's pure child porn, that's all.
Speaker 2: She wasn't the only she wasn't the only one either.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there is Tyle magazine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they had like sixteen seventeen year olds, twelve
Speaker 3: year olds. They had quite a few features in twelve
Speaker 3: year olds. I mean, hell, they push for her after
Speaker 3: that to be featured obviously naked.
Speaker 2: In the Blue Lagoon as well.
Speaker 3: Yep, and like I think she was what thirteen fourteen
Speaker 3: years old and that like yeah.
Speaker 2: And people just went along with it.
Speaker 3: That's what kills me, is like they actually produced this
Speaker 3: and just didn't say anything.
Speaker 2: She her mother was okay with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to that. So for those that
Speaker 1: don't know, and I've talked about it in passing a
Speaker 1: few times, let's break this down. And all this was
Speaker 1: done not only with Hugh Hefner's approval and thumbs up.
Speaker 1: He was the one that was pushing it. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about it here. When artists Collier Shore sublet Prince's
Speaker 1: studio in the nineteen eighties, the photograph was hanging in
Speaker 1: the hallway. Quote this dude had a picture of a
Speaker 1: naked ten year old in the hallway of his studio.
Speaker 1: The quote unquote artist the photographer. But let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: I always thought that it was a perverse picture, and
Speaker 1: he said. He has since made a documentary about Prince
Speaker 1: and befriended Shields when she photographed the actor's model last
Speaker 1: year for Interview magazine. Quote, I found it really disturbing.
Speaker 1: But my impression always was that Richard made the piece
Speaker 1: because it was disturbing. It tells you everything about what
Speaker 1: we fear and desire. Yeah, maybe for some people. Prince
Speaker 1: shorttells has never made has never met Shields. Intent on
Speaker 1: questioning notions of authorship and originality. He rephotographed an existing
Speaker 1: image that had already inspired two years of legal debate.
Speaker 1: The original picture, for which Shields was paid four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars four hundred and fifty dollars for this
Speaker 1: ten year old to be naked in a magazine for
Speaker 1: grown menem was taken by fashion photographer Gary Gross in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five for a Playboy publication titled Sugar and Spice.
Speaker 1: It was one of a dozen images of Shields designed,
Speaker 1: according to Gross, to reveal the not so latent sexuality
Speaker 1: of the pre pubescent child. That's I'm sorry, yes, I
Speaker 1: know if you threw up in your mouth a little bit,
Speaker 1: just now, that's the correct response. Good cult members out
Speaker 1: there listening. I'm very sorry, but here we are. Though
Speaker 1: the pictures were taken with her consent, in nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 1: Shield's mother sued Gross on the grounds that his continuing
Speaker 1: sale of them was damaging to her daughter's reputation, and
Speaker 1: she obtained a provisional band on their further use. So
Speaker 1: the mother who gave the thumbs up later sued the dude.
Speaker 1: But okay. By then, Shields, who began modeling at eleven months,
Speaker 1: had achieved national notoriety. She starred as a child prostitute
Speaker 1: in Lewis Mal's nineteen seventy eight film Pretty Baby, which
Speaker 1: included a scene in which her virginity is auctioned. And
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty she starred in Richard Avedon's pro blah
Speaker 1: blah blah provocative advertising campaign for Calvin Klein jeans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was also pretty bad too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, you know what comes between me and
Speaker 1: my Calvins? Nothing. She was fifteen years old, and she
Speaker 1: asked us in an ad that was censored by American
Speaker 1: TV networks. So like, okay, just so we're all on
Speaker 1: the same page. This poor girl by her mother. Her
Speaker 1: mother was pushing her into these positions to be I
Speaker 1: would say, taken advantage of at the highest levels.
Speaker 2: International signed off of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she because of the the laws, the mom had
Speaker 1: to be present in all these things. A mother signed
Speaker 1: off on her child being seen or starring as a
Speaker 1: child prostitute in a film where her virginity was auctioned
Speaker 1: off the Yeah. This was three years after she had
Speaker 1: been featured in Playboy. And it's just like Jesus Christ, woman,
Speaker 1: somebody get this child away from this mother. So Gross's
Speaker 1: lawyers argued that this photographs or his photographs could not
Speaker 1: further damage Shields reputation because since as they were taken,
Speaker 1: she had made a profitable career as a young vamp
Speaker 1: and a harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, and a provocative
Speaker 1: child woman, an erotic and sensual sex symbol, the Lolita
Speaker 1: of her generation. That's a direct quote. The judge concurred,
Speaker 1: and while praising the pictures quote sultry sensual appeal. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say that one more time, just everybody understands what
Speaker 1: the fuck I just said. The judge agreed with the fact,
Speaker 1: with what he was saying that, oh Brookshields. Oh, she's
Speaker 1: a young vamp and harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, provocative
Speaker 1: child woman, erotic sex symbol, the Lolita of her generation.
Speaker 1: And he agreed and praised the pictures the ten year
Speaker 1: old naked girl the sultry sexual appealed and ruled that
Speaker 1: Gross was not a pornographer. Quote. They have no erotic
Speaker 1: appeal except to possibly perverse minds. After the judge just
Speaker 1: said that, he praised the sultry sensual appeal. What the
Speaker 1: fuck are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That decision was overturned by an appeals court, thank god,
Speaker 1: But in nineteen eighty three, the original verdict in Gross's
Speaker 1: favor was upheiled. Yeah, So Prince appropriated Gross's image later
Speaker 1: that year, renaming it Spiritual America after a nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: three pictured of a gelded horse midriff in genitals beside
Speaker 1: the point, and exhibited it anonymously in a rented shop
Speaker 1: front in New York's Lower East Side. He later explained
Speaker 1: that the two year legal debate about Gross's image and
Speaker 1: the final ruling against censorship had made him feel patriotic
Speaker 1: direct quote. Prince enshrined it as a kind of coda
Speaker 1: to celebrate freedom of expression. A naked ten year old girl.
Speaker 1: Well yeah.
Speaker 3: He also went on later in like two thousand and
Speaker 3: nine and said that like this was like his best work,
Speaker 3: like it's been the most famous photo that he's ever
Speaker 3: taken in still to this day, and that it wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to be porn. It was just supposed to be
Speaker 3: a woman looking sexy. A woman looking sexy as you
Speaker 3: have the most amount of makeup you can possibly put
Speaker 3: on a ten year old and have her trying to
Speaker 3: present herself as a woman at ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, glistened up, makeup, oil, the whole nine. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not what it's meant to be. It's expression, obviously, and
Speaker 1: the judge concurred, m hm, direct quote. Brookshields didn't have
Speaker 1: a problem making that picture because she was play acting
Speaker 1: in front of the camera and that's what she does.
Speaker 1: I don't think she ever felt like she was a
Speaker 1: victim of his camera. I think she felt like she
Speaker 1: was a victim of his greed and to some extent,
Speaker 1: a victim of her mother's p judgment. I think she
Speaker 1: was happy when Richard took the picture and made something
Speaker 1: of it because it was a big fuck you to
Speaker 1: Gary Gross. Yeah. I don't think so, but let's continue.
Speaker 1: Not keen to embark on another expensive legal case. When
Speaker 1: Prince asked for permission to feature the work in his
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two show at the Whitney Museum in New York,
Speaker 1: Gross settled for two thousand dollars offered by Prince's lawyer.
Speaker 1: The photograph was the title work for princes two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven retrospective at the Gunningheim in New York, where
Speaker 1: it appeared without incident. Gross, seventy one years old, continues
Speaker 1: to exercise his right to sell pictures of Shields, though
Speaker 1: eBay prevented him from auctioning prints of them on the site.
Speaker 1: Thank god. He is now a dog photographer and trainer
Speaker 1: in New York. He goes from this celebrated photographer and
Speaker 1: all that to being a dog trainer. In January two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, one of Prince's pictures, an untitled image
Speaker 1: of a cowboy, sold for three point four million, the
Speaker 1: most expensive photograph ever sold at auction. Wow. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: just the entire thing is absolutely disgusting, y'all, this poor girl,
Speaker 1: and you could read more about it if you want to.
Speaker 1: I'm not really too keen to do that myself. But
Speaker 1: this poor girl's mom not only signed off on the
Speaker 1: picture going into a porn magazine, the acting job where
Speaker 1: she was auctioned off for her virginity, the acting job
Speaker 1: where she was also nude again Blue Lagoon right as
Speaker 1: a yeah ago, all of this completely thumbed up by
Speaker 1: mom only. And then keep in mind Brooks Shields actually
Speaker 1: appeared on the cover of Playboy when she was in
Speaker 1: her twenties, so like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, god, it is so fucked up.
Speaker 3: But this, oh yeah, the one where she was actually
Speaker 3: like the Pretty Baby or whatever movie. It was, Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, she actually has to, like pretty much in
Speaker 3: almost nude seduce a man that's like in his late thirties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and like they were just like.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's totally okay, she's just acting, right, She's just acting.
Speaker 2: So it's uh it.
Speaker 1: Talking more about the La tunnels and the ones going
Speaker 1: under the Playboy mansion, I am of the belief, good
Speaker 1: cult members, and you make your own judgment here that
Speaker 1: not only did Hugh Hefner have tunnels that were connected
Speaker 1: to very prominent actors in Hollywood, not only did he
Speaker 1: have tunnels leading out to certain spots so that he
Speaker 1: could bring in pimps and uh, you know, hookers to
Speaker 1: the house to do pig nights. I am also of
Speaker 1: the belief that he smuggled in and trafficked young children
Speaker 1: into the mansion to be used as blackmail against his enemies,
Speaker 1: like he literally admitted he was doing. So that's just me.
Speaker 1: You make your own judgment, but yes, these tunnels absolutely exist.
Speaker 1: Continuing onward, Raven Lee showed this video. This is from
Speaker 1: one of the girls that was an early early accuser
Speaker 1: of p Diddy and everybody thought she was crazy two thousand's.
Speaker 3: Also, she is allegedly tupas so apparently one of his
Speaker 3: daughters potentially. But everybody at least understands her conversation about Diddy.
Speaker 2: Even Kat Williams has brought her up and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been out here shouting on the rooftops about
Speaker 3: the celebrities being fucked up for twenty six plus years.
Speaker 1: So everybody thought she was crazy. Everybody wanted to write
Speaker 1: her off until the shit came out. Let's watch this.
Speaker 2: Warehouses underground.
Speaker 9: There's actual homes underground.
Speaker 10: People built these tunnels, and they built.
Speaker 2: Them for decades.
Speaker 10: There's a lot in elite celebrities. Then go down there
Speaker 10: for parties.
Speaker 1: Wow, satanic rituals underneath the Getty Museum in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 2: I was there for a cock party.
Speaker 10: We walked through the museum through the garden area and
Speaker 10: employees led us to underground tunnels. We had to take an.
Speaker 2: Elevator and stairs. We had to be led. There is
Speaker 2: no way that.
Speaker 9: You can just walk into a tunnel. The entrances and
Speaker 9: the exits are in your face. But there's no way
Speaker 9: that you can just walk through tunnels. You'll get stuck,
Speaker 9: You'll go deeper and deeper and you won't be able
Speaker 9: to come back out because it's hard because the tunnels
Speaker 9: run all different directions for miles and miles and miles
Speaker 9: and miles, so if you go down the wrong one,
Speaker 9: you'll get stuck, and it's confusing to turn back around.
Speaker 2: And get back to our you're going, So you have
Speaker 2: to be lead in and out.
Speaker 10: I think people assume that when you get underground, it's
Speaker 10: just this dirt, and you keep going deeper and there's
Speaker 10: more dirt and then there's cages.
Speaker 2: No, no sow. It works.
Speaker 10: The Playboy Mansions, the Playboy Mansions.
Speaker 9: I met some really elite people when I was there.
Speaker 10: I had to do jobs with some elite celebrities.
Speaker 8: I'm a psychomedium, so I actually like every time I
Speaker 8: walk past this house. And obviously the Playboy Mansions are there,
Speaker 8: and we know about the tunnels that connect from the
Speaker 8: play to here.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they fact there are places that connect.
Speaker 1: So what kind of energy? What kind of energy are
Speaker 1: you picking up?
Speaker 8: It's like there's just like darkness. I mean it's in general,
Speaker 8: like there's always I've always had weird feelings on this street. Yeah, well,
Speaker 8: the play ends is down there, so I always out
Speaker 8: of the Playboy mansion. It wasn't until probably a year
Speaker 8: ago that I realized this from Titty's house.
Speaker 6: Can not believe what went on underage Playboy magazine. Of course,
Speaker 6: it has just discovered blueprints for a network of tunnels
Speaker 6: beneath the mansion that supposedly led to the homes of
Speaker 6: Jack Nicholson, Warren Baby, James Kahn, and Kirk Douglass. Now
Speaker 6: dig this a photo from the late seventies allegedly showing
Speaker 6: an excavation in progress beneath the.
Speaker 1: Mansion, which we just talked about. So absolutely, and again,
Speaker 1: is it also crazy to just ponder that one of
Speaker 1: these tunnels from the Playboy mansion also led to Diddy's house.
Speaker 1: Seeing as how I was like, right there, I'm just
Speaker 1: don't help it.
Speaker 2: It's not a weird thing, I'll say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's especially when trading girls and bringing young children
Speaker 3: in doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know that they were doing all sorts of.
Speaker 3: Hainous shit to the young kids that are in the industry,
Speaker 3: let alone what they were doing and bringing in homeless people,
Speaker 3: homeless children, sex trafficked, you know, children, women, boys, I
Speaker 3: mean everything. So, yep, the tunnels have been utilized for
Speaker 3: their nefarious purposes.
Speaker 1: They absolutely have. So now we get to this viral
Speaker 1: thing that went about about a year ago, give or
Speaker 1: take maybe two years. Actually, I'm looking at the date
Speaker 1: on this. It was twenty twenty four in November, where
Speaker 1: there was this barista that claimed that he was working
Speaker 1: at the Starbucks that is underground in LA And just
Speaker 1: to refresh everybody's memory of what this guy was talking about,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and listen to him.
Speaker 11: While driving in Los Angeles. How come you've never seen
Speaker 11: like Will Smith stuck in traffic on the four or five. Yeah,
Speaker 11: I've never seen a one percenter just in their car
Speaker 11: stuck in traffic.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 11: That's because they're there's a series of intricate tunnels underneath
Speaker 11: Los Angeles known as the Actor Bart. I'm not kidding. Like,
Speaker 11: they get access points to move through the city without
Speaker 11: ever having to be in traffic. You can come up
Speaker 11: in LAX, you can pop up at Dodger Stadium. Underneath
Speaker 11: there in those tunnels is Starbucks is set up at
Speaker 11: different locations to allow them to get coffees while they're driving.
Speaker 11: All of them Seinfeld.
Speaker 2: You've seen Seinfeld down there?
Speaker 11: No, No, I've seen Seinfeld down there. Dude, Almond milk
Speaker 11: latte two shots?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he a good tipper? They don't have to pay.
Speaker 11: So this has been underneath Los Angeles for a few
Speaker 11: years now, I mean.
Speaker 1: How long has this been there for?
Speaker 11: I mean it predates me. It seems like the city
Speaker 11: was built on top of it. So, I mean, I
Speaker 11: think this goes all the way back to the twenties.
Speaker 1: That this doesn't seem almost this is crazy.
Speaker 11: I imagine how I sound saying it to people.
Speaker 1: So he's also brought up that it goes to Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 1: which goes back to another article we read already about
Speaker 1: tunnels under Dodger Stadium connecting to the rest of the city.
Speaker 2: Yep, the Lizard people tunnels.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So is there at least that crumb of truth
Speaker 1: to what he is saying or is he actually speaking
Speaker 1: on behalf of first person account? And honestly, that doesn't
Speaker 1: shock me that there's tunnels that even if these are
Speaker 1: older tunnels that were made for the whatevers and whatevers,
Speaker 1: but these days the actors use them to stay out
Speaker 1: of the public eye. Yeah, I could buy that absolutely.
Speaker 1: And of course Starbucks are just gonna pay their employees
Speaker 1: like a higher rate to work underground, to give the
Speaker 1: celebrities and the wealthy elites their morning Joe on the
Speaker 1: way to the studio or wherever they're shooting. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: checks out to me personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mean too. I mean it's an interesting theory.
Speaker 3: But if what the is, If what people believe is
Speaker 3: true about the old knowledge about the tunnels in the city,
Speaker 3: and we know that there's a lease expansions and there's
Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff going on with the sewer tunnels,
Speaker 3: why wouldn't they utilize this?
Speaker 2: But who knows? It could be very much just a
Speaker 2: bullshit claim that something just made up.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I agree, Jesus, Oh what that was about? Now,
Speaker 1: I would absolutely agree with you. And so let's talk
Speaker 1: more about this here. Secret Los Angeles, that's the name
Speaker 1: of this or the publication rumors are true. There was
Speaker 1: a secret celebrity tunnel under LA and it's not the
Speaker 1: only one in town. The suspicion of many and an
Speaker 1: open secret has now been confirmed, shedding light on one
Speaker 1: of LA's biggest urban legends. So Los Angeles, with its
Speaker 1: rich history and statues. As the world's entertainment capital, is
Speaker 1: the setting for countless urban legends of all kinds, from
Speaker 1: the lizard people to the disappearances at the Cecil Hotel.
Speaker 1: The city is full of stories of questionable truth. Perhaps
Speaker 1: one of the most famous is the decades old rumor
Speaker 1: dating back to the forties about a supposed tunnel connecting
Speaker 1: the world famous celebrity hideout, the Chateau Marmot, to the
Speaker 1: night club The Players. Okay, the hidden tunnel that linked
Speaker 1: Hollywood's elite hotspots. So this is called the Pink Taco,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious. It's a place on Sunset, according to
Speaker 1: an article published very recently by sf Gate, I think
Speaker 1: at San Francisco Gape, there actually was a secret tunnel
Speaker 1: connecting the hotel to a b A building down the
Speaker 1: hill on Sunset. The underground passage was supposed to help
Speaker 1: celebrities to visit The Players. It's a lively club owned
Speaker 1: by the filmmaker Preston Sturgis, featuring guests like Howard Hughes
Speaker 1: and Lauren Bacall on stealth mode. Essentially. In twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: a group of construction workers found what was left of
Speaker 1: the tunnel while fixing up the restaurant Pink Taco, which
Speaker 1: was the old Players building, confirming the story after decades
Speaker 1: of mystery. The tunnel had been closed off by the
Speaker 1: city years ago, so no one knows for sure where
Speaker 1: it started, where it ended, or which celebrities used it.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Colin bullshit on it, but all right.
Speaker 1: The Players shut down in nineteen fifty three, and the
Speaker 1: building later became home to popular nightclubs, including the well
Speaker 1: known Roxbury, which if you're a fan of you know,
Speaker 1: old School SNL and will Faro movies, you would know
Speaker 1: night at the Roxbury anyway, even though you can't walk
Speaker 1: through it anymore. The tunnel's discovery adds to the mystery
Speaker 1: of the Chateau Marmon and keeps the spirit of old
Speaker 1: Hollywood secrets alive. But that's not all there is, in fact,
Speaker 1: the underground network beneath la and you see right here
Speaker 1: it's just a wide tunnel that is meant to be
Speaker 1: driven down. They even have a sign saying sound horn
Speaker 1: when you come up on it, because there's no mirrors
Speaker 1: or anything to let you know somebody's about to t
Speaker 1: bone you anyway. In late twenty twenty four talk video
Speaker 1: by comedian Stephen Randolph went viral after actor Billy Posley
Speaker 1: or Posley jokingly claimed that LA celebrities could skip traffic
Speaker 1: by using hidden tunnels called the Actor Bond, complete with
Speaker 1: a secret underground Starbucks where the coffee was free. The
Speaker 1: story blew up online, but Snopes later confirmed that it
Speaker 1: was pure satire and Starbucks itself denied the claim. For
Speaker 1: the record, he went back on that podcast recently to
Speaker 1: confirm more of the stories. Still, the very viral rumors
Speaker 1: stuck struck a chord because it plays off something real.
Speaker 1: LA does have historic underground tunnels dating back to the
Speaker 1: Prohibition Area era. Rather once used for moving liquor and
Speaker 1: other illsted activities, these tunnels stretch roughly eleven miles beneath
Speaker 1: DTLA Downtown LM and used to be hidden passageways to
Speaker 1: speak easies like the basement of the King Eddie Saloon.
Speaker 1: But beyond their nightlife history, the tunnels also connected key
Speaker 1: government buildings such as the Whole of Justice, Maclaire, Shortage,
Speaker 1: Fultse Criminal Justice, and the Stanley Mosque Courthouse. Wow, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see if I could actually know there's no sound
Speaker 1: on this video. Well that sucks anyway. In the fifties,
Speaker 1: the tunnels were used to move high profile criminals during trials,
Speaker 1: including notorious mobster Mickey Cohen. They use They also served
Speaker 1: to transport valuable assets without public knowledge, like during Operation
Speaker 1: Midnight in nineteen sixty, when one billion dollars in cash
Speaker 1: from property tax payments was moved to the new Hall
Speaker 1: of Administration, Operation Midnight nineteen sixty. If anybody wants to
Speaker 1: look that one up, go for it. But it's true.
Speaker 1: They did move a billion dollars in cash in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: A billion dollars is a little bit more than what
Speaker 1: it is today, you know. Yeah, And they moved it underground, right,
Speaker 1: just to keep it out of the possibility of being stolen.
Speaker 1: Parts of the tunnels were also used in filming locations
Speaker 1: during the Golden Era of Hollywood for movies such as
Speaker 1: Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, and Kiss Me Deadly. This is
Speaker 1: also around the timeframe when like the noir style murder
Speaker 1: films started to get popular. The tunnels were used in
Speaker 1: a lot of movie sets at this time. While most
Speaker 1: entrances are now sealed, allegedly, it's believed that some tunnels
Speaker 1: still serve as shortcuts for government workers. I would also
Speaker 1: say for the celebrities, Yeah for sure. So with that
Speaker 1: we go to the next conversation piece. There are tunnels
Speaker 1: running underneath downtown LA, and here's how to find them.
Speaker 1: And they have some of the similar images of like
Speaker 1: soundhorn and stuff like this. In the heartbeat of downtown LA,
Speaker 1: there's a series of tunnels running between buildings. I first
Speaker 1: learned about the tunnels from Atlas Obscura, which noted that
Speaker 1: they once used during the Prohibition to connect various basement speakeasies.
Speaker 1: Apparently the tunnels eleven miles long. So this week I
Speaker 1: set out to find them myself. After reading this YELP page,
Speaker 1: I discovered I needed to find the door in the
Speaker 1: picture to the left, which that's this one. Here it
Speaker 1: says Los Angeles County Archives two two three shipping receiving.
Speaker 1: Apparently this is the door and it's super innocuous, right, oh,
Speaker 1: just shipping and receiving to the LA County Archives. Nothing
Speaker 1: to see here. Apparently this is how you get there
Speaker 1: to the LA County Hall of Records on the western
Speaker 1: corner of Broadway and Temple. The Hall of Records itself
Speaker 1: was designed by famous Modernist architecture Richard Neutra, and is
Speaker 1: worth poking around for architecture buffs. Anyway, it turns out
Speaker 1: the door is located on the south side of the building,
Speaker 1: in a covered loading dock. When I arrived, I didn't
Speaker 1: immediately see it, but I did see a couple of
Speaker 1: people with decent cameras walking around looking at the building.
Speaker 1: They seemed to be searching for something, and when I asked,
Speaker 1: it turned out they too were looking for the tunnels.
Speaker 1: Their names are Adrian and Holly, and when I showed
Speaker 1: them a picture on Yelp, they immediately knew what door
Speaker 1: it was. They hadn't tried it yet, however, because it
Speaker 1: looked like a back entrance that wouldn't be public exactly,
Speaker 1: but it is. In fact, According to a sign posted
Speaker 1: on a nearby plaza, they tunnels. They tunnels. The tunnels
Speaker 1: are public property and open daily. Here's the sign. It
Speaker 1: says warning, this mall and pedestrian tunnels are public ways
Speaker 1: of the County of Los Angeles. They are closed to
Speaker 1: all users between the hours of eleven thirty pm and
Speaker 1: six am. During the hours of usage, it shall be
Speaker 1: unlawful to use these public ways in any of the
Speaker 1: following manners. One to obstruct or unreasonably interfere with pedestrian traffic.
Speaker 1: Two to sleep and important that they gave that one.
Speaker 1: Three to loiter i e. To delay or linger with
Speaker 1: no lawful purpose, and with the purpose of committing a
Speaker 1: crime in the opportunity if the opportunity arises. Four to
Speaker 1: leave baggage or any article of personal property. Violators will
Speaker 1: be prosecuted to the folkstent of the law blup bah
Speaker 1: ba bap a California Penal Code Section six four seven C.
Speaker 1: And so this is an official government posting in one
Speaker 1: of these tunnels that is completely hidden but in plain sight.
Speaker 1: After walking through the door, Adrian Holly and I found
Speaker 1: ourselves in what appeared to be a storage facility filled
Speaker 1: with boxes of papers. It felt weird because we were
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in a government building, but a few
Speaker 1: people walked by and didn't seem to think twice about
Speaker 1: coming across three strangers. In fact, before we got much further,
Speaker 1: I asked the lady who was walking around where the
Speaker 1: tunnels were. She helpfully pointed us in the right direction,
Speaker 1: which was part of a surprising discovery I made over
Speaker 1: the course of this outing, the tunnels are actively used
Speaker 1: by workers in the area. They're relatively obscure and thus
Speaker 1: interesting to find, but for small group of Angelinos, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. That's what people from Los Angeles are called Angelino's.
Speaker 1: They're also a part of daily life. In any case,
Speaker 1: we walked by more boxes, a row of dumpsters, and
Speaker 1: then finally found ourselves at the beginning of the actual tunnels.
Speaker 1: The scene was one born of utilitarian design. Smooth concrete
Speaker 1: and fluorescent lights made it feel halfway between a business
Speaker 1: space and a bunker, with just a hint of that
Speaker 1: eeriness you sometimes feel when you find an urban frontier
Speaker 1: I mean Jesus. As we pressed on, several things stood out. First,
Speaker 1: the tunnels became quite hot, presumably from heat to water
Speaker 1: running through the pipes. The heat increased dramatically the deeper
Speaker 1: we went. Yeah, you'll have that, and that's not the
Speaker 1: end of this article. There we go. There's also not
Speaker 1: much graffiti in the tunnels, which was surprising given the
Speaker 1: amount of graffiti in La generally. I took this as
Speaker 1: further evidence that the tunnels are both well used and
Speaker 1: regularly maintained. And finally it got really noisy as we
Speaker 1: went deeper. Eventually, the tunnels led us to a dead
Speaker 1: end and a locked door curiosity. Curiously, even at the deepest, noisiest,
Speaker 1: hottest part of the tunnels, there was still a young
Speaker 1: woman walking around who seemed to be leaving work. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: we turned around after taking some pictures and peering through
Speaker 1: the gates that led to closed off tunnels. It would
Speaker 1: have been cool to explore these areas, but what we
Speaker 1: did see still offered an interesting glimpse into a little
Speaker 1: known part of La past and present. For some images,
Speaker 1: click through the gallery below, and if you're watching this
Speaker 1: on Patreon, you'll be able to see the gallery of
Speaker 1: the images taken by this explorer on this This is
Speaker 1: from Jim Darren Pull the second shouts out to you, sir,
Speaker 1: so again, the tunnels under La are not a myth.
Speaker 1: They are not a theory being used by government employees
Speaker 1: and actors. This is a fact. But also it is
Speaker 1: not the latest tunnel that has ever been dug. Believe
Speaker 1: it or not. Elon Musk has bored a new tunnel
Speaker 1: under La. This is called the Hawthorn Test Tunnel. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is from his boring company. It is a one
Speaker 1: point one four mile tunnel in Hawthorne, California, intended for
Speaker 1: testing tunneling and public transportation systems. Constructed between twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: and twenty eighteen. It was a companied by a mile
Speaker 1: long above ground tube on nearby Jack Northrop Avenue designed
Speaker 1: for testing hyper loop and loop based transportation, which was
Speaker 1: used for student competitions in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: before being dismantled in twenty twenty two. So this single
Speaker 1: boar tunnel was constructed using a fourteen foot diameter tunnel
Speaker 1: boring machine, giving a finished twelve foot internal diameter. The
Speaker 1: roadway has an asphalt surface with autonomous vehicle operation of
Speaker 1: the Tesla Model three at speeds of ninety miles an
Speaker 1: hour and up to one hundred and sixteen miles an
Speaker 1: hour under human control. The boring company subsequently built the
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Convention Center loop tunnel network. So he has
Speaker 1: already shown that like, no, we can just bore under
Speaker 1: cities and make these tunnels. It's no big deal. And
Speaker 1: I also think that he's doing that to get Tomor's
Speaker 1: conversation for later on things. But the point is that yes,
Speaker 1: he also bore underneath Hawthorne, California, And I would argue that, yes,
Speaker 1: this is a conversation within the LA Tunnel space. But also,
Speaker 1: come to find out, Elon Musk's company is about to
Speaker 1: try to connect New Orleans Convention Center to the Superdome.
Speaker 1: What yeah, Now, why.
Speaker 3: Would you put a tunnel in New Orleans of all
Speaker 3: the places to put a tunnel.
Speaker 1: This is a crazy flex for Elons. So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: For anybody that doesn't know Katrina happened, why did it
Speaker 1: happen in the way that it did. Yeah, the levee broke,
Speaker 1: But New Orleans is a bowl. It is below The
Speaker 1: entire city is below sea level. So this is why
Speaker 1: anytime it rains, they have pump systems to pump the
Speaker 1: rainwater out and into the Mississippi River and into the Delta.
Speaker 1: So for some person, this is also why cemeteries. You
Speaker 1: have to bury your dead above ground. That's why we
Speaker 1: have mausoleums all over New Orleans. You can't dig. You
Speaker 1: dig two inches into the ground, you're gonna hit groundwater.
Speaker 2: It's put a tunnel. That's insane for.
Speaker 1: Anybody that doesn't know the Convention Center to the Superdome.
Speaker 1: It's not a very long jaunt, but it is also
Speaker 1: really close to the water at the convention center area.
Speaker 1: And doing this, you're going not you're going below below
Speaker 1: sea level in a place that holds water. If he
Speaker 1: is below now street, yeah yeah, if he is able
Speaker 1: to successfully do this.
Speaker 2: That is I would never drive in it a day
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely not. This news article is from May twenty
Speaker 1: seventh of this year.
Speaker 3: You just waiting to die, basically, you literally waiting to die,
Speaker 3: especially if a rain hits up.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, apparently the mayor petitioned him, which the mayor
Speaker 1: of New Orleans is an absolutely horrible human being.
Speaker 2: In an other well, she's getting.
Speaker 3: Brought up on charges anyways, like more charges. Again, this
Speaker 3: is like the tenth time this woman's been charged.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why she is in the position
Speaker 1: she's in other than the fact that, Yeah, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to use this opportunity to take this standpoint.
Speaker 1: But I also don't believe that everybody should be allowed
Speaker 1: to vote. I'm sorry. I believe there should be a
Speaker 1: baseline level test or you have to be in a
Speaker 1: certain you have to at least pay taxes in some way,
Speaker 1: Like it's anyway anyway, not getting on that soap bux.
Speaker 2: We're talking about tunnels, I know.
Speaker 1: So Elon Musk's boring company could build a tunnel connect
Speaker 1: to New Orleans Convention Center with a major hotel near
Speaker 1: the Superdome, reports The Advocate, a paper report that documents
Speaker 1: show that in February, New Orleans Mayor Helena Moreno fuck
Speaker 1: Her applied to the company's tunnel Vision Challenge with a
Speaker 1: pitch that New Orleans could benefit from a boring tunnel.
Speaker 1: Moreno's proposal notes that while the earnest North Memorial Convention
Speaker 1: Center and Hyatt Region and see New Orleans are only
Speaker 1: one mile apart, traveling that distance is unreliable during Mardi
Speaker 1: Gras and events at the super Dome. So we are
Speaker 1: talking about give or take festival. Carnival season in New
Speaker 1: Orleans is about two months long, give or take realistically,
Speaker 1: and she's saying that it is so hard to get
Speaker 1: from the Convention Center to the Superdome for two months
Speaker 1: that we need a tunnel connecting them.
Speaker 2: Obviously, that's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So Marina, the proposal landed New Orleans on a list
Speaker 1: of three winners of the challenge, with the company pledging
Speaker 1: to fund a proposed NOLA loop of a rigorous diligence
Speaker 1: process determine the project as feasible. It is unclear, according
Speaker 1: to the Advocate report, if any progress has been made
Speaker 1: since March. But yeah, this is this is a whole thing. Also,
Speaker 1: SpaceX has been rumored to expand into Louisiana as well.
Speaker 1: Heard that, Yeah, so that's that's just something to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, you know, interesting about that.
Speaker 3: But getting back to LA and their tunnels, let's talk
Speaker 3: about it. So this is actually really this has happened
Speaker 3: what yesterday, two days ago? Yeah, this article, So there's
Speaker 3: been obviously we we understand that there's tunnels. We understand
Speaker 3: that LA has a big problem with the homeless.
Speaker 2: We obviously they have skid row, and we.
Speaker 1: Also know that these tunnels go under skid row. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Then they have you know, they're going to be hosting
Speaker 3: the Olympics, which is a huge thing. And there's a
Speaker 3: lot of conversations after the fires that there's more more
Speaker 3: homeless people than ever before and they want to get
Speaker 3: rid of them because they need them to leave.
Speaker 1: You got to clean up the seats whenever you have
Speaker 1: company over. It's the same thing that Gavin Newsom did
Speaker 1: when Jija Pin came to California, he all the homeless
Speaker 1: people in LA were just not there crazily, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And he even said, we got
Speaker 1: to clean up your house before you invite company over,
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's that's a thing you just said
Speaker 1: on camera. But all right.
Speaker 3: I mean, they very well could have been sold off
Speaker 3: to experimental science labs taking out into the underground military
Speaker 3: tunnel bases that everybody believes that are all throughout California.
Speaker 1: You know, But he busted them to Oakland. He used
Speaker 1: state tax dollars to hire buses and just basically forcibly
Speaker 1: rounded up all the homeless people and just shipped them
Speaker 1: north for a little bit until she left, and then
Speaker 1: they just like found their way back.
Speaker 3: I mean, we did the same thing here for the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. We have I wouldn't say we have a
Speaker 3: massive homeless population since compared to other like Portland in
Speaker 3: LA and those kind of places, but we were having
Speaker 3: a growing number of people that were living under specific
Speaker 3: bridges in New Ork Orlands and is kind of getting
Speaker 3: to where it was getting way more dangerous in those areas.
Speaker 3: And then suddenly they round them all up, all their
Speaker 3: shit disappeared, and they disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I never donated to United Way.
Speaker 1: By the way, United Way is a nonprofit that brings
Speaker 1: buses to move these people from point A to point B.
Speaker 1: They've done it for years. So yeah, anyway, anyway, let's
Speaker 1: talk about it.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about this because the tunnels
Speaker 3: in them are having a whole situation with squatters and
Speaker 3: the homeless and them getting pretty much buried alive in
Speaker 3: some of the places.
Speaker 2: So this is a vibe.
Speaker 1: It it is a vibe. It is definitely a vibe.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it here. So squatters turn century old
Speaker 1: tunnels beneath Los Angeles streets into filth filled underground camps. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no way to talk about people. They're not filth
Speaker 1: that they are though. Anyway, aging pedestrian tunnels beneath the
Speaker 1: streets of Los Angeles have been overtaken by squatters who
Speaker 1: break through fencing and lead the under ground passageways buried
Speaker 1: in filth. One of the tunnels sits near Sodo Street
Speaker 1: Elementary School in Boyle Heights. It is one of several
Speaker 1: pedestrian underpasses across the city that have fallen into disrepair
Speaker 1: and now draw homeless encampments and illegal activity. According to
Speaker 1: the report, well yeah, you don't get one without the other.
Speaker 1: Chain link fences and gates have been installed to seal
Speaker 1: the entrances, but trespassers keep breaking through. Crews and news
Speaker 1: cameras have gotten inside. Describe passageways littered with feces, urine, drugs, food, clothing, furniture,
Speaker 1: and sex toys, all the hallmarks of a homeless encampment. Honestly,
Speaker 1: clearly a sofa.
Speaker 3: And true, wo, I wouldn't have bet on the sex toys.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. Realize they cost money. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I mean, of all the things, like you know,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought the sex toy conversation would be
Speaker 3: entering because they're expensive in your homes.
Speaker 1: So you would think. But uh, you know, the five
Speaker 1: finger discount is free.
Speaker 2: Right, fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1: But also yeah, no, homeless people they be they be
Speaker 1: fucking dude. Yeah, they ain't showered in like two weeks.
Speaker 1: They don't care, man, they are they are out there
Speaker 1: living their damn life. It's wild. It's yeah, I'm anyway,
Speaker 1: moving forward. Here a sofa in children's clothing were among
Speaker 1: the items found in the Boyle Heights tunnel. That's also
Speaker 1: pretty terrifying. The tunnel network was built roughly a century
Speaker 1: ago for the opposite purpose, to let school children cross
Speaker 1: increasingly busy streets without stepping into traffic. Around two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty of the tunnels were constructed in the nineteen
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties and funded by more than a million
Speaker 1: dollars in bond measures approved by Los Angeles voters. According
Speaker 1: to the La Times, so again, as far as like
Speaker 1: the tunnel systems goes, around two hundred and twenty of
Speaker 1: these tunnels were constructed that is known about. I don't
Speaker 1: even tell me about the ones that we don't know about, right,
Speaker 1: They did not last. By the late nineteen sixties, the
Speaker 1: passageway were already falling out of use, and in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight, public works officials adopted a formal policy of
Speaker 1: closing them after the Los Angeles Board of Education warned
Speaker 1: that many had become unsafe unsanitary corridors attracting criminal activity.
Speaker 1: That policy led to the closure of several tunnels across
Speaker 1: the city. The ones still were standing remain a safety
Speaker 1: concern for the neighborhoods above them. District fourteen City council
Speaker 1: member oh Jesus christ You Sable Eurado Sure, who represents
Speaker 1: Boyle Heights, said the tunnel in her district in her Okay, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: Sable totally in her district is a public safety thread quote.
Speaker 1: For years, the tunnel has presented persistent public health and
Speaker 1: safety concerns, including accumulated trash and debris, flooding and debris
Speaker 1: flow hazards during adverse weather, and activity inside the passageway
Speaker 1: that has disrupted nearby school operations. Wow Euraedo Phil filed
Speaker 1: emotion in February twenty twenty six seeking a permanent closure quote.
Speaker 1: As previous efforts to adequately close the tunnel have been unsuccessful.
Speaker 1: There is an urgent need for the city to develop
Speaker 1: a permanent solution to close the tunnel. This endeavor will
Speaker 1: advance safer, more accessible streets for our students, educators, workers, families,
Speaker 1: and surrounding community. She told the outlet that sealing it
Speaker 1: for good was not a quick fix. A permanent closure
Speaker 1: requires an engineering evaluation, coordination among the relevant city departments,
Speaker 1: identification of funding, and approval through the city council process.
Speaker 1: The push is not new Euredo's processor. Kevin Delone filed
Speaker 1: a similar motion or predecessor, Yeah, Kevin de de Lyone
Speaker 1: filed a similar motion in twenty twenty four. Rather than
Speaker 1: providing safe passage for the Sodo Street Elementary students and parents,
Speaker 1: this pedestrian tunnel has proved provided harbor for illicted activity
Speaker 1: and dangerous conditions. The city take steps necessary to permanently
Speaker 1: close this tunnel and debate ongoing public safety hazards that
Speaker 1: are taking place at this site. Two motions and two
Speaker 1: council members later, the fencing is still there and still there,
Speaker 1: and so are the people getting past it? Wow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so. And it would only make sense that the
Speaker 1: homeless would take refuge in these tunnels, right, especially ones
Speaker 1: that haven't been used quote unquote and so long or
Speaker 1: least one hundred year old tunnels or whatever. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would make sense. It's a place to get out of
Speaker 1: the rain, you know what I mean. You can set
Speaker 1: up shop and if people are like, yeah, hey, I
Speaker 1: need to get by you, rah, fuck off. Right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're a homeless person. You could
Speaker 1: just do what you want. Nobody's coming.
Speaker 3: Stoping drugs and everything else they got going on, in
Speaker 3: child child situations that are happening, everything that's going on.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're also living underneath the bridges. There's like
Speaker 3: this one guy that's like famously living under this one
Speaker 3: bridge all by himself. He just got like a whole
Speaker 3: ass mattress down there and stuff. There's like this guy's
Speaker 3: been keeping up with him and really nice dude. He
Speaker 3: just is homeless. But like his whole situation, you have
Speaker 3: to like crawl through stuff and then crawl down this
Speaker 3: other thing and crawl over this stuff, and then there
Speaker 3: you are. You're basically underneath this complete bridge and it's
Speaker 3: like its own little tunnel system down there.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right, most of the homeless, and
Speaker 1: no I'm not gonna say the unhoused or the shelterless,
Speaker 1: that's that's liberal dumb shit. The homeless, these people, most
Speaker 1: of them are there by choice. I understand that there
Speaker 1: are some real people out there that fell on hard times,
Speaker 1: hit a string of bad luck, and like they found
Speaker 1: themselves homeless like that. Yes, this does happen one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: but I would argue that ninety eight to ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of the homeless population in America are there so
Speaker 1: that they can live and do drugs and do whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck they want without people bothering them and no
Speaker 1: one holding them accountable, you know what I mean, their
Speaker 1: family not breathing down their neck to try to like
Speaker 1: get them help. Like they don't want help. They want
Speaker 1: to live a lawless lifestyle, so they're doing that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean there is a good there
Speaker 3: is a good portion that they're happy the way that
Speaker 3: they're living, Yeah, and that's what they want to do.
Speaker 3: There is people that are down on their luck. There
Speaker 3: is people that have lost everything, There's people that are
Speaker 3: going through things. There's a lot of different circumstances of
Speaker 3: why people are homeless, but there is a good portion
Speaker 3: of them. And I've done a lot of work with
Speaker 3: the homeless since I was young, beeing homeless, helping shelters,
Speaker 3: doing all this stuff, and I will say, like, there
Speaker 3: is a portion of them that really just they want
Speaker 3: to live this way because they don't want to have
Speaker 3: any responsibilities.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like their biggest problem like oh no,
Speaker 1: I may not have anything to eat today, but like whatever, cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, but they can find food and
Speaker 3: stuff in a lot of different places.
Speaker 2: Is now. They heard it back in the day.
Speaker 1: And this article starts talking about the Soto Street Elementary School.
Speaker 1: We just talked about that in the last article, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of skip ahead a little bit. They
Speaker 1: got pictures though, of some of the images, right, chain
Speaker 1: link fence, a tunnel system.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to kind of show some of the
Speaker 2: pictures of what was going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt though. That's that's ya sobo. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the Yeah. Yeah, this is the chain link fence that
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's there. They could still get down
Speaker 1: there pretty relatively easily. It's a fence jumping away, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of places that are open
Speaker 3: like this all over the place. And the manhole cover
Speaker 3: conversation is where it actually started for me, because they
Speaker 3: just had another kid, he's like twenty something year old
Speaker 3: kid that they were closing up one of the manholes
Speaker 3: and there they were and he was he was about
Speaker 3: to get sealed into the manhole. There was a lady
Speaker 3: and her kids that just almost got sealed into a manhole.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of them that are moving throughout the
Speaker 3: city and these sewage passageways and that they are living
Speaker 3: down there and created an entire community. But before we
Speaker 3: read this whole thing, I did want to give credence
Speaker 3: to one of the reasons why there is a portion
Speaker 3: of tunnels is due to the Chinatown situation that happened.
Speaker 2: There was a Chinatown.
Speaker 3: There was about six thousand residents at one point in
Speaker 3: eighteen seventy one in Los Angeles, and one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy two of them were Chinese. They had, you know,
Speaker 3: they were facing the same stuff everyone else was facing
Speaker 3: in all the other locations. You know, a lot of
Speaker 3: different issues that were happening. There was actually like gang
Speaker 3: rivals situations that's going on between the two head leaders
Speaker 3: in Chinatown, which.
Speaker 2: Resulted in this whole situation.
Speaker 3: Of a kidnap, a young Chinese woman being kidnapped, and
Speaker 3: then a shootout happened between several Chinese men that broke
Speaker 3: out in the middle of Negro Alley is where a
Speaker 3: lot of them were located at, and this resulted in
Speaker 3: police officers, two police officers being hurt, and one death
Speaker 3: of a civilian that was actually a really well known
Speaker 3: and very popular, well loved former saloon owner. So when
Speaker 3: this happened on October twenty fourth, eighteen seventy one. This
Speaker 3: is one of the biggest massacres in American history.
Speaker 2: That happened.
Speaker 3: Five hundred of the town's people got together and basically
Speaker 3: stormed Chinatown. They ended up lynching seventeen people as young
Speaker 3: as eighteen years old as one of the victims. They
Speaker 3: the first man was hung and then buried that night before,
Speaker 3: and then the rest of them, the seventeen bodies were
Speaker 3: laid out in front of the jail yard as evidence. Basically,
Speaker 3: the grand jury indicted people, eat of the rioters convicted
Speaker 3: of manslaughter charges. Charges were overturned on a legal technicality,
Speaker 3: and the defendants never never were retried. So basically they
Speaker 3: slaughtered seventeen people and got away with it.
Speaker 2: And so this is actually.
Speaker 3: Technically one of the biggest massacres that we have. Lynching wise,
Speaker 3: I think this might be it's the largest mass lynching
Speaker 3: in US history. And one of the reasons why I
Speaker 3: brought this up because they utilized the tunnel systems, just
Speaker 3: like in San Francisco, to stay out of the way
Speaker 3: of you know, other people that were in town. It
Speaker 3: wasn't just white people, it was it was a lot
Speaker 3: of different people.
Speaker 2: They were having feuds with other Chinese people.
Speaker 3: Certain Chinese people use the underground, certain ones used up top.
Speaker 2: It was a whole thing. Well when this broke out,
Speaker 2: this caused.
Speaker 3: This mass massacre of lynching of people and of Chinese people,
Speaker 3: And so I thought it deserved its flowers because it's
Speaker 3: one of the biggest it is the largest one in
Speaker 3: our history of.
Speaker 2: What has happened.
Speaker 3: So wow, another reason why tunnels were utilized during that period.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I had never heard of that story. Also, but
Speaker 1: I mean, and it makes sense that Chinatown also has
Speaker 1: tunnels underneath it because that seems to be the going trend,
Speaker 1: right every city that we've talked about the tunnels that
Speaker 1: may or may not be there in the backstory. Somehow
Speaker 1: Chinatown just makes its way into the conversation as it does.
Speaker 1: You know, it's either the Chinese Jews, man, they're fucking tunneling.
Speaker 1: They're doing things, that's is what they're tunneling.
Speaker 3: Because like as we move across the country, I have
Speaker 3: a feeling we're going to get into more the Jewish
Speaker 3: population of tunneling, obviously, like in New York and you know,
Speaker 3: the places that we've actually heard of and stuff. And
Speaker 3: then I'm curious to see when we get into Houston,
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest underground tunnels in cities.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what that's for.
Speaker 3: But also we're going to get into the industrial military
Speaker 3: industrial plexus. We're already to get into the silo situations
Speaker 3: that actually link up to tunnels that you can actually
Speaker 3: purchase as a civilian. Right now, Like, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't Kylie Jenner's bunker in LA just get completed?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yes, Kylie Jenner spent fifteen million dollars in an LA
Speaker 3: for her bunker that just was completed. Yeah, And so
Speaker 3: that's that's another celebrity.
Speaker 2: But there's a whole bunch of them. We know that
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3: And his whole situation with his tunnels and his bunkers.
Speaker 3: I mean Oprah has them, they all have them, like
Speaker 3: they And then there's videos all over.
Speaker 2: The place of officials that.
Speaker 3: Are pulling up like the rug in their offices and
Speaker 3: being like, oh, hey, look, we got these underground tunnels.
Speaker 2: That we can just drop into.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's the tunnels are everywhere, and this
Speaker 3: is that's the big thing that I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: the conversation of the unround entirety of the US being
Speaker 3: linked together through tunnels and bases and the huge city
Speaker 3: and that's operating potentially underground. It has been a conversation
Speaker 3: that's been really heavy this year.
Speaker 2: Do I know if there is a thing, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they all connect, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, if they're just in certain cities. Do they have
Speaker 3: the potential to connect for sure? Are they going to
Speaker 3: build these things up?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Is it true when we do get in, because we're
Speaker 3: going to do an episode of just the underground bunkers,
Speaker 3: the nuclear bunkers. I am going to obviously bring up
Speaker 3: Bush's Lady that just came out a few years ago
Speaker 3: saying they spent.
Speaker 2: Like twenty one billion trillion. I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I think it's billion dollars on underground cities and all
Speaker 3: of this. And we're going to get into the actual
Speaker 3: underground cities themselves and nuclear bunkers and also the elites
Speaker 3: and things like this. But right now, it's been a
Speaker 3: fascinating thing to learn so much history about our tunnel
Speaker 3: systems that I actually didn't realize how many tunnels were
Speaker 3: on the West Coast because we only touched two cities
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 2: California, and there is so many more.
Speaker 3: In fact, three days ago there was just an article
Speaker 3: that was released about Santa Barbara and their mystery tunnels
Speaker 3: that they just discovered. And there's tunnels being discovered all
Speaker 3: over the place throughout California, and they're being released weekly.
Speaker 2: It feels like there's so many articles that we.
Speaker 3: Seriously could have spent probably five six episodes just on California's,
Speaker 3: not including Las Vegas, not including you know, Arizona, not
Speaker 3: including going into the mountain Jews, not including all of
Speaker 3: the things that are all connected to each other at
Speaker 3: least in some way, shape or form of Is there aliens?
Speaker 3: Is there a lizards of people? Are the military doing
Speaker 3: this stuff? I mean, is it's all the elites using it?
Speaker 2: Are they abandoned?
Speaker 3: And are they actually sealed up? Is their whole communities underneath?
Speaker 3: How far do they go down?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions that are just kind of
Speaker 2: unanswered completely.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, though, with all the things that
Speaker 1: we covered today, the one that I'm having the most
Speaker 1: hiccup with is the lizard people conversation. And it's not
Speaker 1: because I don't believe in in reptilian aliens or shape
Speaker 1: shifters or nephilim or or whatever like, yes, yeah, these things.
Speaker 1: I believe they're out there in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: The one of all these things, the tunnel's being there
Speaker 1: that we don't know about, for sure, the celebrities using it,
Speaker 1: for sure, Hugh Hefner all that, Yeah, confirmed, got it.
Speaker 1: The story from nineteen thirty four from this guy using
Speaker 1: a device that has not been used since or before,
Speaker 1: and the whole conversation he had to go and find
Speaker 1: some sort of a Native American chief to basically give
Speaker 1: him the green light that what he's doing is like
Speaker 1: basing something. Do you know how many Native American tribes
Speaker 1: have a story about lizard people or reptilians or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure quite a few too. Oh really, well.
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. The Hopie are one, and then
Speaker 1: there's some like California tribes that's it. No one else.
Speaker 1: They may have a story with some sort of like
Speaker 1: a you know, and not a god, let's make that
Speaker 1: clear too, not like a serpent style deity, and not
Speaker 1: like a snake being or some like a person like
Speaker 1: a they celt and like the snake man. The you know,
Speaker 1: the human types here, the hybrids, if you will, there's
Speaker 1: not many at all. So it's like he was grasping
Speaker 1: estraws on top of grasping of straws. But the biggest
Speaker 1: hang up I have on all of that, I could
Speaker 1: get by the story. I can get by, you know,
Speaker 1: some sort of ancient civilization. I could get through all
Speaker 1: of that. If his device was so powerful that it
Speaker 1: could map out an entire underground labyrinth that was in
Speaker 1: the shape of a lizard, how did it not pick
Speaker 1: up on the fucking tunnel that they were digging into,
Speaker 1: or the water that that was about to hit and
Speaker 1: all of these things. And the oil industry has been
Speaker 1: in LA for so fucking long. Do you know how
Speaker 1: many underground tests they've done to map out what's down there?
Speaker 1: And none of them found the lizard before now, And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, they would, but they would have kept
Speaker 1: it quiet. It's like, but would they have? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like they would have if it is as extensive
Speaker 1: as the dude was claiming. I feel like they would
Speaker 1: have accidentally punched a hole in that in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form in they're digging. And if they had,
Speaker 1: which is the mathematical probability, wouldn't that flood the entire
Speaker 1: tunnel system?
Speaker 3: I mean most of it, though it was covered up,
Speaker 3: like most of it was built on top of like
Speaker 3: basically starting as soon as he as soon as they stopped,
Speaker 3: they started building on top of shit.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah they've so.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't actually know. I think it's a
Speaker 3: weird thing. I don't really stand the whole radio X
Speaker 3: ray device. I was trying to find more information on
Speaker 3: that itself, but he basically got his information from the
Speaker 3: locals and from everybody around there, because there's been one
Speaker 3: hundred years of lore.
Speaker 2: Pretty much that's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and then he also had an engineering background and stuff,
Speaker 3: and he had been working in those areas, and I
Speaker 3: guess he decided to create this machine and then go
Speaker 3: out there and try in the locations of which that
Speaker 3: iron door had been talked about. That people had been
Speaker 3: guessing that there was hidden Spanish treasure all throughout, that
Speaker 3: there was some type of gold up there as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know, to me, like, I don't, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't really know if I I think
Speaker 3: it's really interesting, But I do think the conversation about
Speaker 3: the iron door, I think is really my hand up
Speaker 3: with it, because there was so many accounts of people
Speaker 3: talking about this over a long course of time. I
Speaker 3: understand that people couldn't figure out I guess where it was. Okay,
Speaker 3: that put pokes holes in it, but the fact that
Speaker 3: the conversation kept coming back to the door is warm.
Speaker 3: There's no way that it looks like we can't figure
Speaker 3: out how to get into it, and or that it
Speaker 3: was open and we still looked around it and there's
Speaker 3: no like rivets in it, and it's really strange, and
Speaker 3: the air just seems completely displaced and odd, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't seem weird. It seems really strange. And then they
Speaker 3: would go right back to it the next day because
Speaker 3: oh my god, we found this thing, and then it's
Speaker 3: gone and it's gone, and it's gone.
Speaker 2: It's gone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's one of those weird things. It's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so like one person saying it, eh, fifty people saying it, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe they just heard some bullshit. A hundred people saying
Speaker 3: it over a course of one hundred years plus, it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe there's more to this than just like a story.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is something a local legend that they're just
Speaker 3: passing down to each other, you know, and grandfathered his
Speaker 3: son and you know, one of those things.
Speaker 1: And again the girl too, those with the psychic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the psychic, Like I mean, the psychic weeks five
Speaker 3: weeks before he even does anything, before he even gets
Speaker 3: a permit, before it even hit the paper.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't documented by anybody but her friends, who said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, a few weeks ago she did say that.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, she said that, and then and then
Speaker 3: she sent it in to that journal or whatever it
Speaker 3: was and stuff, and so.
Speaker 2: I you know, the whole story. All the stories are weird,
Speaker 2: I'll say that. But also, could there be married at
Speaker 2: this point? Who even knows?
Speaker 3: I mean, like the conversation of reptilian people has been
Speaker 3: around or Reptilian aliens, whatever the fuck they are, for
Speaker 3: sure for a good bit. So could they be underneath there?
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not like Hills of Eyes fucking people or
Speaker 3: the Descent people or you know, whatever it's down there,
Speaker 3: Who knows. Maybe they put an entire alien base down there.
Speaker 3: Mount Shasta has its own unique stories of what happens
Speaker 3: around that place in and of itself. And then there's
Speaker 3: one unknown city apparently, and your guess is as good
Speaker 3: as mine to be, to be honest, when it comes
Speaker 3: to that conversation.
Speaker 1: And again, I don't disbelieve reptilians or the lizard people
Speaker 1: or whatever, like, I'm with that, and I don't inherently
Speaker 1: disagree with that story. It's just this particular one. It's
Speaker 1: don't even wrong. It was at least compelling enough for
Speaker 1: the La Times to run on it and all the
Speaker 1: other publications.
Speaker 3: In the city council to give grants for it and
Speaker 3: to help, you know, to give up the machine for it,
Speaker 3: and to give him funding for it. And they were
Speaker 3: like convinced enough with whatever evidence he showed them and
Speaker 3: proved was enough for.
Speaker 2: The council to be like, you know what, there might
Speaker 2: be something to this.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, above all else here, I think we
Speaker 1: can all agree that Hollywood LA is being run by
Speaker 1: the worst types of folks, and if those people happen
Speaker 1: to be lizard people, then I mean Illuminati confirmed what
Speaker 1: we're we be talking about here, you know, right. But
Speaker 1: on top of all of that, I think we can
Speaker 1: walk away with one very big tech well two very
Speaker 1: big takeaways from this episode. Good cult members. Number one,
Speaker 1: LA has a very wild, expansive underground city just beneath
Speaker 1: the feet of the Angelinos that I just found out
Speaker 1: as a word. Right, whether it's the oil, the one
Speaker 1: hundred year old tunnels, the prohibition era, the whatever, these
Speaker 1: are all confirmed, right, this is insane. And number two
Speaker 1: fuck Hugh Hefner. I think we can all agree on that.
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