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Now, 27 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.480 sit back, relax and enjoy the show. 28 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.480 Open up to an hot as. 29 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:41.040 Youre there, something in the woods. 30 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.719 Anato ty you what you're about to see? 31 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:44.760 Or something in the woods. 32 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:47.120 Knock in the park. 33 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.799 Contanger by the Omen said, don't go outside, there's something 34 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.799 near the woods tonight. I hear him knocking, shaking bushits foot, 35 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:59.519 Prince Howlin on my long open up to an odyssey something. 36 00:01:59.319 --> 00:01:59.920 In the wood. 37 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.000 If folks to walk on my guests to the show, 38 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.280 it is Mark from California. Welcome to the show man. 39 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:05.920 Hey Brian, how you doing, Bud? 40 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.159 I am good, I'm glad to have you. Let's get 41 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:09.960 right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What 42 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.000 got you interested in the subject to begin with? 43 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.599 I saw the Patterson and Gambling film back in the 44 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.840 sixty eight sixty nine somewhere around there in a little 45 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:22.319 hometown theater in North Carolina. Went to school one day. 46 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.599 I was in the fourth grade. You remember the legend 47 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.280 of Boggy Creek. Okay, we went and saw that in 48 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.240 nineteen seventy two. And in the nineteen seventy four I 49 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.400 was in the fourth grade and I was telling one 50 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:34.240 of the guys that I went to school with that 51 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.639 we went and saw that movie. He said, we got 52 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.080 one of them things out there at the city lake. 53 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.080 They had chased my mama hanging out clothes one time. 54 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.879 And I was like what he said, Yeah, we call 55 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:48.319 it the shoe, I said, the shoe. Back then, Brian, 56 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.599 it was a different time. My dad mom used to 57 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:52.400 let me walk up there and go fishing. It was 58 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.159 about a quarter of a mine, but I'd take my 59 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:57.039 tackle box and bucket the minos and walk up down 60 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.840 it's been some bass and bring them home. Every time 61 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:03.319 I went up there, there was something in the woods. 62 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.919 It was a heavy wooded area, very isolated. There was 63 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.120 a few houses running, but all the neighbors knew of 64 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.800 this thing that they called to shoot. Time goes on. 65 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:14.879 Didn't think a whole lot about And then people was 66 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.800 like Mark Leaves in Bigfoot. They thought I was a 67 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.159 conspiracy theres So my dad, I guess it was in 68 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:25.159 nineteen seventy nine. He got me a Winchester thirty thirty 69 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.120 to go deer hunt. So we went to a place 70 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.680 up there where I started seeing a lot of tracks 71 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:34.039 Mount Creek up in theillerby North Carolina. As a matter 72 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.199 of fact, he used to make fun. They said, well 73 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.319 that ain't up but Andre the giant up there walking 74 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.520 around barefooted leaving the Bigfoot tracks. Andrea had a ranch 75 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.759 up there on Highway seventy three, right above where I hunted. 76 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.360 It was called the AFJ Ranch. Andre, Frenchie and Jackie, 77 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:52.319 and I met them all. He was really a humble fellow. 78 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.599 He wasn't arrogant or anything. They were just some laid 79 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.759 back people. They liked the privacy, but they would talk 80 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:00.599 to you if they saw you. I was up there 81 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.000 deer hunting that Christmas with my dad. And my dad 82 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.840 parked at the gate where we hunted, and he walked 83 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:08.599 down to a tree stand because he was going to 84 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.800 hunt this clear cut and he said, Mark, why don't 85 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.120 you going back in on the creek? Sit down? So 86 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.600 I walked back there on my way back there, I 87 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.759 started hearing something to my right and this is some 88 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.079 thick woods to that area is thick. Whatever it was, 89 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.959 I knew it was heavy because it was stepping on 90 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.959 rotten pine trees and it was crunching them. I was like, 91 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.600 dagg home, maybe there is a big foot up here. 92 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.639 So I went down there and my dad started tooting 93 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.879 the horn right before dark said come on out, boy, 94 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.360 let's go. So when I was going out of there, 95 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.600 that thing was following me back out. I don't know 96 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.000 if it was stalking me or just watching me. I 97 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.959 don't know what it was doing, but it made the 98 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.920 hair stand up, I guess to see. That's seventy nine 99 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.480 in nineteen eighty four. I graduated in nineteen eighty three. 100 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.879 I don't know if you remember that book In Search 101 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:58.279 of Bigfoot. A friend gave that to me, and he 102 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.240 believed in him because he said he had saw at 103 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.040 the Pdee River, and that's right there off Mountain Creek 104 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.160 where we hunted. It fed into the p d River. 105 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.839 Engineer that worked on the rail of my dad. His 106 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.079 dad had a farm up there. That's the farmer was 107 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.639 hunting on that day back in seventy nine, and they 108 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.439 told me I can go there and hunt anytime, just 109 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.040 a lot the gate back when I left, another guy 110 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.160 was working with lived up there, right off what they 111 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:23.959 call Holly Grove Church Road. And if you go to 112 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.319 the end of holly Grove Church Roun, turn the left 113 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.959 on the Grassy Island, that'll take you down the Mountain 114 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.920 Creek Bridge. And there was a place up there called 115 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.600 the High Watermark that was owned by the Pile Company, 116 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.240 and so the dam was on the Pdee River. Terry 117 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.199 the guy was working with, he said Mark. He said, 118 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.199 Man in nineteen eighty one, we was up there catfishing 119 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:45.279 at three o'clock in the morning on the Richmond County 120 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.360 side of the dam. And he said, I drove my 121 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.079 camaro up there, and he said, I always kept a 122 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.160 shotgun with me, just cause the water boxins. So that's 123 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.560 all they was worried about. They weren't worried about anything 124 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.560 else other than water boxers. He said, about three point 125 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.480 thirty he looked over on this little peninsula they caught 126 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.000 it the beachs. People go out there and swim and 127 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.000 camp out. He said. It was a full moon night 128 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.120 in November and he said, Marc, I had Billy with men. 129 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:10.000 He said, I looked over there and I saw these 130 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.759 things down in there, and he said it looked gray 131 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.000 to me. He said, dude, it was so big. He said, 132 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.879 I knew what it was. He said, Billy, He said, man, 133 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.680 look over there on that peninsula and tell me what 134 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.199 And he said, Man, I'm looking right at it. He said, 135 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.240 what is? He said, Man, just stay right here. So 136 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.959 back then they were burning tires. That what they legal 137 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.560 back then, So they had a tire fire going. Terry 138 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.360 told me we got a double well or twelve games 139 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.120 with double lock. Buggy only had two shells. He said, 140 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:36.959 Marcau come in here. And he threw the gun up 141 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:41.600 at the bigfoot and said it turned and looked at 142 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:43.439 him and turned around and said it was like it 143 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.519 was almost careful where it was stepping. And it walked 144 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.199 back and turned back one more time and just disappeared 145 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.920 into the woods. He said. Billy said, man, what in 146 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.839 the world was that? He said that was a bigfoot man. 147 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.079 But he said he was scared to shoot it because, 148 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.720 he said, Mark, it was so massive. He said, I 149 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:01.639 feel like I had a bb gun. He said, I 150 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:04.319 didn't even feel safe for the twelve games. He said. 151 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.759 We stayed there till sun up because we didn't want 152 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.800 to leave. He said, I felt like I had a shot, 153 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:10.279 and there was more than one day would have just 154 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.680 killed us. That was his exact words. So he said, 155 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.120 right before daybreak, he heard that thing catch a rabbit 156 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:19.480 and it just squeezed the rabbit. You could hear the 157 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.399 bones like you just ate a rabbit. I'll never forget him. 158 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.680 Tell me that. A boy we were working with, said 159 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.120 Mark much about Mountain Creek. I told him to farm 160 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:28.800 a hunting on. He said, if you go down grass 161 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.759 the island and go across Colmon Creek Bridge, he said, 162 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.600 there's a place up there on the left he could hunt. 163 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.720 He said, I kill all my deer in their mad 164 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:38.879 He said, that's a good place to hunt. He said, 165 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:40.839 hardly anybody ever goes back there. 166 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:41.079 Now. 167 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.519 It was shotgun only you could carry rifles in there. 168 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.319 So I went in there one day by myself, and 169 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:48.920 I was looking down and I saw a track in there. 170 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.399 I guess it was like twenty something inches and it 171 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.920 was sunk down about two three inches in the mud. 172 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.759 I sink down probably to about a half inch, so 173 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.360 I knew whatever it was real heavy Michael Green with 174 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.240 the Bigfoot Research Organization. I had called them, I made 175 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.560 a report. I think I sent you that report, so 176 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.319 they came up there. There was one of the guys 177 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.759 in the group when we was walking back there, and 178 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.399 I just felt something was off. It's like I just 179 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.360 didn't trust him. It's like they just wanted to get 180 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:19.839 my information to get me out of there. That was 181 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:23.000 the feeling. Have you ever heard of Indian Mound, North Carolina. 182 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.480 There's a place in the west Mount Gillion, but there's 183 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.240 a little place up the I think they called that 184 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:32.080 little river, but it feeds into the PD River, but 185 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:36.679 it's Indian Mounds. So I've always heard that. Usually if 186 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.679 there's an Indian Mound close by, there's a lot of sosquads. 187 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:41.120 And we was up there riding around one day in 188 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.120 a little place called Peak and they had these old 189 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.799 steel metal bridges. I think they've got rid of most 190 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.159 of them now. He said, it's right down to check 191 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.960 Old Harvey out. And I said Harvey. They said, yeah, 192 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.039 he's old hill Billy lives up here. He stays out 193 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.399 here in a hen for on the creek. He said, 194 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.720 they don't even have any electricity. I said, what, They 195 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.919 just graduated school right re little Ford Pinto. So we 196 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:05.080 went back there, and sure enough Parby was out there. 197 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.639 He was almost literally like a faraoh. Heling, if you 198 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.799 know what I'm saying. He was back was brother and 199 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.440 there was a big old tobacco field out there behind 200 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.240 where he was staying. But he was right on the creek. 201 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.240 I said, man, what do you do when you have 202 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.320 to use the bathroom and take a bath? He said, 203 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.440 I go to the creek. They said, man, I was 204 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.639 down there last night and that big old hairy thing 205 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.480 come back. I said what he said, yeah, Man, everybody 206 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:29.320 thinks I'm crazy. 207 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:29.559 Man. 208 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.960 He said, you see that Thebaca barn out there, And 209 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.440 there was the back of barn, and I saw the 210 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.080 roof and the loft up above it. It was about 211 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.440 twelve feet. He said, Man, that thing was out there 212 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.840 the other day when I was walking in here. He 213 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.879 said that the thing was above that roof, so it 214 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.720 was taller than twelve feet. They said, man, I think 215 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.519 ran me out the creek. Brick said, you keep bad 216 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.799 attensing him. Man, he was about half crazy down here 217 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.200 and living with no electricity. Ain't got no sense. I 218 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.399 was like, I don't know man. Some got him rapped up. 219 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.200 As time progresses, let's get up to two thousand and four. 220 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.879 I getting the heavy equipment action that left me disabled. 221 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.320 I was getting workers come and they cut it off. 222 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.519 I had custody of my son. I was raising my son. 223 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:14.039 He was in high school. They cut my chick off 224 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.440 and I didn't get any assistance or anything. I didn't 225 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.320 get tyles worn out there. I just took care of 226 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.159 my son and I worked all the time. So I 227 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.639 told him, I said, but I don't have to go 228 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.440 kill us a deer. I said, if I killed one, 229 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.600 I'm gonna need you to come up there and drag 230 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:30.440 it out for me. He said, okay, BUY said, I 231 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:32.559 go up there. I go to that place I was 232 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.639 telling you about on the high Watermark. I sent you 233 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.320 pictures of this place. That day I went in there. 234 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.399 I had been talking with a girl down in Florida. 235 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.600 I had sent her to some of the pictures I 236 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.120 sent you because she had saw a bigfoot down in Florida, 237 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.759 a place called I think it was Brownville. It was 238 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.200 on the west coast side, on the Guff of Mexico 239 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:52.039 side of Florida. They lived over on the Crystal River. 240 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.559 She said, Mark, me and my husband sawing them things 241 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.000 in a swamp that we go in. He was standing 242 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.679 about four feet above the cattails. And we know that 243 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:02.879 there's twelve foot gators in there. No man would have 244 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.399 been in there, and a sued as hot as it 245 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:08.159 was Florida like North Carolina's got the humidity. But she 246 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.879 said they had these things called no siems, some kind 247 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.360 of little bug you can't see, to just tear you up. 248 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.919 She said, please send me the pictures because we've seen one. 249 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.120 I want to see them. And she said, the next 250 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:20.679 time you got deer hunting, take me some pictures of 251 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.879 the area that you are hunting because I want to 252 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:26.759 see them too. I said, okay, I took those pictures. 253 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.600 I told you I'm not tech savvy. I don't own 254 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:32.559 a TV or a computer. It's my phone. Back then 255 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.720 I did have a computer, and one of my friends 256 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:36.919 come over. He built a computer for me and my son. 257 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.240 He said, Mark, you got any pictures you want to 258 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.679 put on a thumb drive. I was like, what I said, 259 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.600 wants a throng drive? And he said it's the thing 260 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:47.320 I could stole you pictures on that you want to 261 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.200 save man, and you can get them printed off whenever 262 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.480 you want to. Brown He put those things on the 263 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:54.039 thumb drive. Now I moved across the street. When I 264 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.039 got customed my son. I bought a piece of land. 265 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.519 And I think you've got the pictures of that too. 266 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:00.440 You see how would it is now one hundred The 267 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.840 fish doll over there and my creek on my property 268 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.840 ran into the lake. But the lake ran into It'scott Creek. 269 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.240 The runs all the way down to the p D River, 270 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.600 And there's something about that PDA River. They had seemed 271 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.879 to congregate all along those banks, and I do believe 272 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.720 they traveled the creeks. We was down there one day 273 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.039 at the creek, and I had a big old pit 274 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.679 bull and a Carolina doll. A guy from Georgia, he 275 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.679 was an archaeologist. Somebody told me that he had a dog. 276 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.000 He was getting rid of them. I was trying to 277 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.519 find one, and I had never heard of anybody having 278 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.879 a Carolina dog. A veterinarian told me about him. He 279 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.720 brought me that dog from Georgia and they moved to Ashfield, 280 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.600 North Carolina, to some kind of retirement community. In his life, 281 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.279 but they couldn't have pets, so Katie and Hanks that 282 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:45.879 was the pit bull. One day they took off down 283 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.600 to Mint Creek and they both stopped dead in their tracks. 284 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.799 I never heard a noise. I don't know what was 285 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:54.720 going on, but they both turned around. They come back. 286 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.039 They was both shaking. Both of the dogs were shaking. 287 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.360 I told my son about it. I don't know what 288 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:02.320 they saw down there, I said, but whatever it was 289 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.679 that shook both of them up, he said, let's go 290 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.559 down there. So we went down there and man, there 291 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.480 was two sets of tracks and one was like, like 292 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.519 I said, twenty something. I got my foot beside the 293 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.559 track to show how big it was. I took two 294 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:17.639 different pictures of tracks down there at the creek and 295 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.919 it was far packed clay. There was black mud at 296 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.080 the creek. But where I took the picture with my 297 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:27.000 camouflaged crops ons, that was pretty hard. So we seen it. 298 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:28.960 My son's like, I wonder if that's what come up 299 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.960 and stormed it at the window. One night we were 300 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.639 standing there while we was getting everything done getting electricity 301 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.960 and all ran to the house. Were just camping out 302 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.360 in the house. Some people wouldn't come under and steel 303 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.240 stuff that they was working on structure site and some 304 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:46.320 walked up to the window. We had a cooler and 305 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:49.159 a coal and one of them little beds blew up eds. 306 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:53.440 We had temporary power, so he was still playing Xbox 307 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.360 all night. About four o'clock in the morning, he nudges me. 308 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.879 I'm on the little couch in there, he said, budd, 309 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:03.759 he said, and something blue like a horse snorts all 310 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:05.720 I can compare it to. But it was bigger, if 311 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.679 that makes sense. Whatever it was above that window. So 312 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.399 we went out there, and it had to be twelve 313 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.000 feed or taller. Didn't see me. Tracks My son was 314 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.919 playing baseball. He had a ball game one night and 315 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:20.360 one of my friends called. I said, hey, man, you 316 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.360 care if I go down there? You hang out that 317 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:24.279 We hit landers down there and stuff. And we got 318 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.279 down and sit and just to shoot the breeze and 319 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.960 hang out, cook out. And I said, no, man, make 320 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.759 yourself at home. Brother, I said, just lock the gate. 321 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:32.240 I said, we'll get the gate when we come, because 322 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.240 I didn't want people riding up when I wasn't there. 323 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.639 So he pulled in there and he was to say, 324 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.480 let's ride down there and see David, I said, I said, 325 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:40.559 we rode down there. He said, you win your ball game? Boy? 326 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.039 He said yeah. He said what you got all your 327 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.399 guns out for? He said, Man, I don't know what 328 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.559 the world was going on out here, brother. He said, 329 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:49.759 something come down and through them woods over there, and 330 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.440 it was tearing down trees. It sounded like a bulldogs 331 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:54.879 were tearing up stuff. And then it started throwing these 332 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.039 big old white rocks over here. Brian, I'm talking about 333 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:02.039 big white court rock I could pick because I'm disabled, 334 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:03.600 but they were heavy. 335 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.840 And stay tuned for more. Sasquatch out to see. We're 336 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.120 right back after these messages. 337 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.159 He said, whatever it was chunking them rocks in that 338 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.200 beaver pond like they were pebbles, He said, one lady 339 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.600 right here beside the truck. I knew then. Shortly after 340 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:22.759 that encounter, I had a girl come out there one night. 341 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.960 We was cooking out on my little Sunday. She said, Mark, 342 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.679 I don't know what's going on, but there's something over 343 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.559 there behind that tree. It's got a big red eye 344 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.200 and it keeps looking out at me. I said what 345 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:35.960 she said? Yes, she said, when I tell you to 346 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.360 turn around, I want you to turn round. She said, 347 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.080 go ahead, and I turned around and showing up about 348 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.000 twelve feet tall over there on the bank and the pines. 349 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.879 It leaned out. There's a bunch of puns, and it 350 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.639 leaned out and looked, and then it went back and 351 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.039 I saw it. I said, I saw the red glowing eye. 352 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.240 I remember hearing several people say, that's the only time 353 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.639 I ever seen that. So I knew something was going on. 354 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.519 She remember the thumb drive I was telling you about. 355 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:04.000 We uploaded those pictures. One day, my buddy come down 356 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.440 their Kyle, We just lost him. Rest his soul. I 357 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.519 know that Wan since I was twelve years old. Good guy. 358 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.279 He pulled those pictures up and he said, hey, you 359 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.039 go here, this is how you work the thing. My 360 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.159 mom came down, she had Houston, and they came in 361 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:19.759 and I was going through them pictures and my mama said, 362 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.960 what the world's at right there beside that tree. Now, 363 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.200 my mom, seventy some years old at the time, saw it. 364 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:28.960 I said, good lord, Mama. I said, my friend Andrew 365 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:31.039 had done and farther wanted me to take some pictures. 366 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.039 I said, I believe that's what was leaving the tracks 367 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.279 up there at Mountain Creek where I was hunt. So 368 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.159 that was like two thousand and eight. When I took 369 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.639 them pictures. We uploaded them in twenty ten. Then I 370 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.759 hunted up there after that, and I kept seeing tracks. 371 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.799 One day I walked in there right and I saw 372 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:50.879 another fresh track. Dude, I had ganged so much weight. 373 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:53.000 I was like five hundred and sixty seven pounds. It 374 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.039 was embarrassing I'd got so big, but I was having 375 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.039 to hunt for food. I don't know if you know 376 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:00.240 much about hunting, but my lawyer told me. He said, 377 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:02.679 he said, with your Andrews. He said, if you're going 378 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.240 to be dealing, you need to get you up. But 379 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.279 now he's super black Eagle. He said, it's got the 380 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.759 lowest free coal of any twelve games. He said, I 381 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.599 know because I've had Rotator concerned. He said, you can 382 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.200 do it because I shoot three and a half inch 383 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:16.400 bucks out and I said, okay, so they're a little pricey. 384 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.559 But it didn't get me one. So I got my 385 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.599 limit every year up there. That's why I was telling 386 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:23.440 you about One day I saw that big track. That's 387 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:25.880 the biggest track I'd ever seen. But on the way 388 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.000 in there, Brun it looked like something had killed a 389 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:31.680 wild hog. We got a bunch of wild hogs up there. 390 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.960 It literally squeezed, is what it looked like. It squeezed 391 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:38.480 at the death because there was a track of feces. 392 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:40.960 I know that sounds gross, but it was just like 393 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.319 eight feet square and blood everywhere, and something had ate 394 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.640 a possum and part of the possum's face was laying 395 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.839 on right there where the hog was killed. So I 396 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:53.319 won't come back there. And I see that track, and 397 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.599 I caught my buddy told me his dad was a doctor. 398 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.440 He said, next time want of the tracks, you call me. 399 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.319 I'm gonna come and take a picture of it. I said, okay, 400 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.640 So I called it now he had to come thirty 401 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.559