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<v Speaker 2>Time for Swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Swamp is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>The government doesn't work. Man, make it like a reality

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<v Speaker 1>A bad Noos, always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and

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<v Speaker 3>in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a swamp. I have to watch it. Mawarkee boy said,

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<v Speaker 2>drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so hell. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>happensh You.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the thing, well, it was one year ago today

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<v Speaker 1>the terror attack on Israel, and just reading through what

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<v Speaker 1>happened at that music Supernova festival, the journey of unity

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<v Speaker 1>and love there near the border, just rereading the stories

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<v Speaker 1>from one year ago today, it's it's just horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have been following what appears to be this

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<v Speaker 4>slow trudge towards a wider war throughout the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 4>and we wanted to talk more about what it is

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<v Speaker 4>that the future holds for that area. Lieutenant General Richard

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<v Speaker 4>Newton is joining US a senior National Court a security

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<v Speaker 4>contributor to News Nation General this has been a very

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<v Speaker 4>dark year obviously for that region. Where are we today

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<v Speaker 4>compared to where we were in the afternoon of October

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<v Speaker 5>Year, Well, good morning, and you're right. It was an

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely brutal attack and frankly in the public domain right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like our listeners appreciating context. Hamas took a play

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<v Speaker 5>the playbook of ISIS and al Qaeda and actually used

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<v Speaker 5>such brutal tactics on a battlefield to include sexual violence

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<v Speaker 5>on the battlefield and the taking of hostages. And there's

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<v Speaker 5>still about one hundred and one hostages still under Hamas control.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe there's probably significantly less still alive. But where

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<v Speaker 5>we are right now is an Israel that had its

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<v Speaker 5>back against the wall. That was a significant failure of Israel,

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<v Speaker 5>certainly in their military intelligence and their other intelligence to

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that it was a surprise attack on October seventh.

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<v Speaker 5>But where we are right now is we've seen the

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<v Speaker 5>resolve of Prime Minister n in Yahoo, certainly the capabilities

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<v Speaker 5>of Israeli defense forces and frankly, Israeli people have stood

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<v Speaker 5>up to this brutal attack. But there's not just one

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<v Speaker 5>axis that they are being attacked there's multiple fronts, what

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<v Speaker 5>I would call an axis of evil. You've got Hamas

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<v Speaker 5>in Gaza pretty much decimated at this point. You've got

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<v Speaker 5>heaslots to the north, which has the largest paramilitary terraced

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<v Speaker 5>foot soldiers in terms of numbers and capability. To the

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<v Speaker 5>north have been lobbing since October eighth, relentlessly, up to

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen thousand projectiles of missiles and rockets on artillery since

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<v Speaker 5>October eighth. Then, of course, hoof, he's down in the

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<v Speaker 5>South and Yemen. These are all proc of Iran. The

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<v Speaker 5>head of the snak is Iran, and so that has

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<v Speaker 5>become loud and clear. I think not only certainly Israel

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<v Speaker 5>knew that. The United States knew that. I knew that

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<v Speaker 5>when I was on active duty, but now the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of the world does. And so what you're seeing play

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<v Speaker 5>out is that Israel almost is going alone at this point. However,

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<v Speaker 5>we've been providing. You are still our military supplies and

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<v Speaker 5>capabilities and arms and so forth. But nonetheless, Israel has

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<v Speaker 5>fought back. I believe they've fought back somewhat relentlessly and effectively.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we're at a point now where Hamas is decimated

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<v Speaker 5>well as a lot of their military capabilities are missile capabilities.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the next thing is, Okay, how are they

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<v Speaker 5>going to counterattack against Iran if they've made two major

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<v Speaker 1>First, Yeah, Lieutenant General Richard Newton is who we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to right now, senior national security contributor for News Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>The proxies you mentioned, Iran's proxies hamas have been weakened

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<v Speaker 1>substantially since a year ago today.

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<v Speaker 6>Does that make it.

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<v Speaker 1>More imminent or put pressure on Israel maybe now to

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<v Speaker 1>go into Iran and to attack the nuclear facilities.

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<v Speaker 5>Well premise in Nyahu, and his Minister of Defense has

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<v Speaker 5>said that they will attack Iran on their time and

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<v Speaker 5>their choosing. But however, I believe where the stress is

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<v Speaker 5>the most stressed UH in terms of the midiest right

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<v Speaker 5>now is Iran because of they have then they thought

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<v Speaker 5>that their proxies, which really serve as their long range

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<v Speaker 5>capability other than in missiles, and in some degree there

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<v Speaker 5>they're specialists inside the Iranian revolution at Guard Corps. But

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<v Speaker 5>they've been using these proxies for decades husb lah Hamas

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<v Speaker 5>that Israel has done to Hamas specifically and now Hesbelah,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it's really put the stress and backed Iran

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<v Speaker 5>my view, in what I would call a driver's seat.

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<v Speaker 5>And so it's up to Israel in terms of how

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<v Speaker 5>they go back and strike Iran. They did after the

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<v Speaker 5>April thirteenth missile attack, if you recall, there's just one

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<v Speaker 5>They went after one area defense system in the Isfahan reason,

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<v Speaker 5>which is another nuclear weapons capability. But right now I

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<v Speaker 5>think you're going to see a much more culminating a broader,

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<v Speaker 5>comprehensive counter strike with impunity, not just over a day

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<v Speaker 5>or two, but probably in terms of weeks of time.

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<v Speaker 4>I love your perspective. Thank you for that, Lieutenant General

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<v Speaker 4>Richard Newton, Thanks for taking.

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<v Speaker 2>Time for us today.

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<v Speaker 5>My pleasure, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. This is going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that when Kamala Harris sat down for that

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<v Speaker 4>interview with sixty Minutes that airs tonight, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>clips that's been released by CBS. Already is her being

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<v Speaker 4>asked about Benjamin Netanya, who is not listening to you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not listening to Joe Biden. He's not listening to you.

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<v Speaker 4>We claim that we're the biggest ally that we've got,

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<v Speaker 4>but you keep telling him to calm down, basically, and

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<v Speaker 4>to you keep calling for a ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not paying attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>No escalation has been the Biden and Kamala Harris response. Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, says, now's the time for Israel

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<v Speaker 1>to act and take out those nuclear facilities, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick the dog while it's down right and show us

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<v Speaker 1>strength towards the axis of evil here. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>the point I was trying to drive home there is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the weakest Hesbalah and Hamas have been for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Now is the time to strike. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do that. Yeah, well, there has been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of speculation that the inaction in North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>with cleaning up Helene is in correlation to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that North Carolina elects Republicans, specifically Donald Trump and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>took i think twenty seven out of twenty eight counties there.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia is also another state where voting preparation has been

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<v Speaker 1>disrupted because of Helene, those two battleground states, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the fight is going to center around this. If he

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to lose, it's going to center around Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>Administration's a response to the cleanup and all that, and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to get people to the ballots, get people

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<v Speaker 1>and if there's already a backlog of voting preparations, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, vote by mail when they don't have mail, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you do that? Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>This is if this is.

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<v Speaker 4>A thing, it's a dangerous thing to allege because on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side, there are allegations that former President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>said he was going to withhold wildlife sorry, wildfire relief

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<v Speaker 4>money from California because it's so blue. That kind of rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of talk, that kind of discussion, if it

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<v Speaker 4>even crosses a politician's mind, should disqualify them from ever

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<v Speaker 4>holding office.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, that's not what we do. That's what killed Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Christie in a way. Yeah, going to give you traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of and I had mentioned earlier that FEMA, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>FEMA has the ability to get more money. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they've gone through what was allocated to them, and that

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<v Speaker 4>this has been a particularly difficult year.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have more money that can come. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>to go through Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Mike Johnson is saying he's not committing to calling

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<v Speaker 4>Congress back into session before the election because they're out now,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not supposed, they're not scheduled to come back. But

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<v Speaker 4>in his letter, in a letter I should say, President

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<v Speaker 4>Biden urged Congress to restore funding to the Small Business

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<v Speaker 4>Administration's Disaster loan program, which is facing some short falls

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<v Speaker 4>even before Hurricane Helene came through. And now that we've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about having Milton knocking on the door of Floorida,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not going to get a whole lot better. Also

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned that there are plenty of interviews coming up. Vice

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<v Speaker 4>President Harris has an interview tonight on sixty Minutes. Then

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<v Speaker 4>she does Stephen Colbert, then she does Howard Stern, then

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<v Speaker 4>she does the View. The last three probably not the

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<v Speaker 4>hardest hitting. She also did an interview with Alex what's

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<v Speaker 4>the Call Her Daddy podcast I've listened to one entire

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<v Speaker 4>episode of this thing, so I can't qualify or agree

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<v Speaker 4>or not with if it's a sex podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>I did a read. It's the number two podcasts behind

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Rogan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very popular. Regardless of what the topics are, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very popular thing. And I mentioned that I listened

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<v Speaker 4>to this whole episode today because I wanted to hear

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<v Speaker 4>what the hullabaloo was.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the first question to ask of the Vice president.

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<v Speaker 6>What made you want to do call her daddy today?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think you and your listeners have really got

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<v Speaker 7>this thing right, which is one of the best ways

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<v Speaker 7>to communicate with people is to be real, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and to talk about the things that people.

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<v Speaker 6>Really care about.

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<v Speaker 7>What I love about what you do is that your

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<v Speaker 7>voice in your show is really about your listeners. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think, especially now, this is a moment in the

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<v Speaker 7>country and in life where people really want another scene

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<v Speaker 7>and heard and that they're part of a community. I

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<v Speaker 7>think that she's been show and so I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 7>to be with you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was word salary a little bit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the idea of being seen and heard, et cetera. The

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<v Speaker 4>interview itself wasn't bad in that she didn't do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like sometimes when she's confronted with journalists, she

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<v Speaker 1>gets her she puts her friences up, she puts her

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<v Speaker 1>her guard, she's defensive, and she if she feels she

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<v Speaker 1>can go on the podcast and be real, that's great

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<v Speaker 1>for her.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Election wise, yeah, that's the way you can win an election.

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<v Speaker 4>That is to go through and talk to people at

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<v Speaker 4>their level however you want to do that. But even

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<v Speaker 4>Andrea and Mitchell from MSNBC yesterday said, Kamala Harris has

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<v Speaker 4>got to do serious interview and I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think they've got to double down on doing more interviews

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<v Speaker 8>and serious interviews because when I'm hearing from Democratic and

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<v Speaker 8>Republican business people and a lot of men, and she's

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<v Speaker 8>got such a big problem with men. I think there's

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<v Speaker 8>an under account of the Trump vote. I think there's

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<v Speaker 8>a miss edgn misogenation in all of this black and

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<v Speaker 8>And a lot of this is gender. But she's got

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<v Speaker 1>I think we mentioned earlier the term gray divorce. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out thirty six percent of people getting a divorce

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<v Speaker 1>in this country are over the age.

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<v Speaker 6>Of fifty and the different reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that I pointed out was I

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not certain.

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<v Speaker 4>I think part of it would be my naivete about

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<v Speaker 1>To be, okay, or what you thought your parents had

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's one thing if you saw I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that everybody probably has seen some level of

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<v Speaker 4>nightmare stories about, yeah, the relationship that their parents had.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it would have just been a letdown

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<v Speaker 4>for me because I would have thought, why I thought

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<v Speaker 4>you guys were and maybe listen again, I speak from

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<v Speaker 4>a point of naivete where my parents didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't have a lot of friction in their marriage,

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't have a lot of strained times. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>lucky for that. And I think that you know, other

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<v Speaker 4>twelve or eighteen, Like, different stages bring with it different

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<v Speaker 4>that's not that's not my experience, and I can I

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<v Speaker 4>can say that for some people it's probably one of,

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<v Speaker 4>if not the biggest childhood memory they have is watching

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<v Speaker 4>their parents go through and divorce, right, So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it would just be I was naive to think I

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<v Speaker 4>would have been naive if they had gotten divorced after

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<v Speaker 4>the age of fifty.

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<v Speaker 6>So what did people say?

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<v Speaker 2>So there were other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people said that I was right, but for different

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<v Speaker 4>reasons too.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hey, Garry Jen happy ONNDY to you. Hey, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a divorcee. I felt it was better to be

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<v Speaker 3>divorced than being a toxic relationship because then I'm teaching

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<v Speaker 3>my kids has to survive in a toxic relationship and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not a healthy way of life.

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<v Speaker 6>Just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks guys, let me show bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that's one of the issues. He's talking

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<v Speaker 4>specifically from his own experience. But there has to be

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<v Speaker 4>a calculus that you go through when you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>end a relationship like that. Not just end the relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean all of the legal matters that come

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<v Speaker 4>along with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's all needs to be taken into consideration,

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<v Speaker 1>because that can be a complete mess.

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<v Speaker 9>Gary, if your parents got divorced once the kids were

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<v Speaker 9>all up and out of the house and onto their

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<v Speaker 9>own lives, would you really be angry or would you

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<v Speaker 9>maybe also be sad, disappointed, frustrated, disillusioned if they really

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<v Speaker 9>tried to work on it and found that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 9>going to make them both happy when they have deserved

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<v Speaker 9>to try to find happiness individually. Just my perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again, you have a hard time articulating your emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I was trying to get to. When

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<v Speaker 1>you say it would make me angry, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean by that? What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>when you say angry? And I think she kind of

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it well, she definitely had better words than I did.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what you sad?

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<v Speaker 9>Disappointed?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, frustrated disillusion.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You need that chart with the faces so you can

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<v Speaker 1>better articulate.

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<v Speaker 2>We moved it to Texas with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 6>Can't just be angry or.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad or happy two main emotions. Needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more shades. But it's also she pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>something that I hadn't thought of.

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<v Speaker 9>When they have deserved to try to find happiness individually.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh no, they're my parents. They're supposed to be together.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, I'm not saying that's the right way, but that

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<v Speaker 4>would be what my reaction is.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Right, you're not their whole world.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you think that our parents don't have their own lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I trust me. I'm on the receiving end of

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<v Speaker 4>that now too. My kids look at me. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what they expect of me or what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>they don't. It's not like they ask about my relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with their mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But what you're not just your relationship, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just your relationship with them. You're into adult theater,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a career. You like to tinker. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a tinker, like around the house you were painted.

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<v Speaker 10>They got to say, I resound with Gary on that

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<v Speaker 10>whole angry about parents coming to you at the age

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<v Speaker 10>of fifty and saying they want a divorce. My parents

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<v Speaker 10>did that, and I was so mad at them. I

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<v Speaker 10>was like, we were miserable as children. You guys stayed

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<v Speaker 10>together that whole entire time. You never left him then,

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<v Speaker 10>and now you want to leave him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell no.

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<v Speaker 10>It was interesting, really, I was so angry.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that again, that wouldn't have been my experience because

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<v Speaker 4>I had a good childhood. I mean, it was happy, there.

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<v Speaker 2>Were no negatives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But that she talked about it that they grew

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<v Speaker 4>up miserable because their parents were miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and so why didn't you just do this and

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<v Speaker 1>saved us the misery?

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<v Speaker 6>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing is you've put in twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years with someone, and you're just gonna like throw

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<v Speaker 4>that away. Oh there's a shiny new thing, or I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't feel like on your priority. Speaking to the woman

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<v Speaker 1>that was profiled in the story earlier, I just she said,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the house, we had the kids, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a household. EQUI that's right, equal equal sharing of the

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<v Speaker 1>household duties and the child rearing and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>But I didn't feel like I was his number one priority.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, priorities change from day to day, time to time,

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<v Speaker 1>they look different. You can't be the number one priority

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, right telling me like, right now, your

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<v Speaker 1>number one priority should be that shirt and what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with it when you get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why do I get rid of that shirt? Just kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>You do that to me all the time. See how

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<v Speaker 2>it feels feel better, does it?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, it's a beautiful shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a new thing that's going to ruin our jobs. Great.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought AI was never coming for us. It's totally

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<v Speaker 4>coming for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having friends text me telling me who is uh

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<v Speaker 1>who should.

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<v Speaker 6>Consider a divorce later in life? This is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Open up there.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get to the story tomorrow if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it to it today. And that producer Alex

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<v Speaker 1>found about why did people in the past look so

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<v Speaker 1>much older?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great that's a great story.

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<v Speaker 6>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you look at people and you make fun of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it.

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<v Speaker 8>They've got to double down on doing more interviews and

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<v Speaker 8>serious interviews because when I'm hearing from democratic.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does she start talking, Well, she wants us to

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<v Speaker 1>do more serious interviews.

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<v Speaker 4>You always make fun of me, and you go that

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<v Speaker 4>guy's that guy's your age or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not me making fun of you. That's saying, can you.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you look.

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<v Speaker 4>I see what you're doing now. You're trying to clean

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<v Speaker 4>up your mess and know it because you make fun

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<v Speaker 4>You do not look your age.

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<v Speaker 1>You look a good You look more like my age

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<v Speaker 1>than your age. If I had to, if I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you in the wild, if you saw me on that

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<v Speaker 1>corner down here, yeah, I'd say you were my age,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say you're about forty forty three.

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<v Speaker 6>Forty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm, you emphasized forty four. You could have just stuck

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<v Speaker 4>with forty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was slow rolling my forty four to make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like there was some wiggle room there that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I could be forty three.

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<v Speaker 6>No, but you know what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, Like, when I see a guy that's that's like

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<v Speaker 1>not taking care of himself, who's your age? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe that you guys are the same age?

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<v Speaker 1>I do the same thing to my husband too. My

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<v Speaker 1>husband also takes great care of himself, does not look

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<v Speaker 1>his age at all. So it's just it's fascinating to

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<v Speaker 1>me the spectrum of of but back it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>like when my parents, my grand parents were my grandparents, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they looked a lot older than my mom, Like my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother looked a hell of a lot older than my

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<v Speaker 1>mom does now at seventy six.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if this is also because they've passed,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have a specific age for my parents when

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<v Speaker 4>I think of them, the image that comes to my head,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a specific age. Yes, it doesn't change over the

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<v Speaker 4>course of the forty or fifty years that I've known

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<v Speaker 4>them and been conscious of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a specific image.

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<v Speaker 6>How old were you at that at this time?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it would have been right about they would have

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I think of my parents too. That's funny

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<v Speaker 1>as a teenager. Yes, and that's it, right, that's funny, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the end. Oh, we are ushering in the end.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a guy who writes for the Washington Post who

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<v Speaker 4>has a Jeffrey Fowler, who has spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>time in technology, privacy things like that, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Used an experimental.

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<v Speaker 4>AI website called notebook LM. It generates audio based on

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<v Speaker 4>information that you upload to it, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 4>the terms and condition, the privacy policy that Facebook has.

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<v Speaker 4>He uploaded that into this AI website, outcomes a seven

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<v Speaker 4>and a half minute podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not two human beings speaking to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know they actually track your mouse movements, like

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<v Speaker 2>every little scroll and hesitation. It's kind of creepy when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. They say it helps him tell

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<v Speaker 2>real users apart from box.

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<v Speaker 6>But still, yeah, it does make you wonder, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just one example.

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<v Speaker 1>Metta also collects a ton of info on the people

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<v Speaker 1>you're connected to, your friends, followers, even people you might

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<v Speaker 1>know whoa just the way they're speaking. It's not computer

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<v Speaker 1>like the intonation the breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, they have breath.

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<v Speaker 1>They have breath. That is terrifying. Wait a minute, are

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<v Speaker 1>we AI right now? And that's not all?

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<v Speaker 2>So this guy says, when they.

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<v Speaker 1>Start doing humor, that's what that's what I'm coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with their own jokes, coming up with their own jokes

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<v Speaker 1>or reacting to humor, that'll be the troubling stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy, Jeffrey Fowler, again says he was surprised that

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<v Speaker 4>when he uploaded the Facebook privacy policy, what was spit

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<v Speaker 4>out on the other end was more critical than he

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<v Speaker 4>was expecting. Taking the point of view of a skeptical

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook user, is is I didn't tell it to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>The AI decides its own focus on each podcast and

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<v Speaker 4>each summary that it comes up with, and it said,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's interesting because he knows this policy inside now

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<v Speaker 4>for fifteen years, he's been writing about Facebook privacy policies,

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<v Speaker 4>social media privacy policies. And he said, what was surprising

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<v Speaker 4>was about four minutes into this podcast, it takes a

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<v Speaker 4>detour into the meta oversight board. He said, it makes

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<v Speaker 4>moderation decisions and it's mentioned in the privacy policy, but

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<v Speaker 4>it isn't nearly as important to your privacy as a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of other things in the policy, like how Meta

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<v Speaker 4>uses your information to train its artificial intelligence. When you

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<v Speaker 4>think about it, yeah, and he says, it tries to

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<v Speaker 4>make a lot of analogies that may or may not

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<v Speaker 4>be appropriate, depending on the gravitas of the source material

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<v Speaker 4>that you give it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is making incredible strides, quickly, exponential strides. Meta

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<v Speaker 1>unveiled its most advanced AI video technology as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called movie gen and it can transform text to video

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<v Speaker 1>from a simple prompt, which can create Hollywood style movie clips.

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<v Speaker 6>I think space wars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Tech companies are racing to create AI models that can

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<v Speaker 1>generate video, and they say, of course that this could

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<v Speaker 1>spread misinformation online, threatened jobs. You can just not just

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<v Speaker 1>have the audio, but have the Hollywood style movie clips

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<v Speaker 1>from just a single prompt.

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<v Speaker 6>That it's we're done, We're done, We're done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's over.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like we're picking up a little bit of speed. Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I'm glad I'm on my way out.

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<v Speaker 2>When's not on my way in? You're wiggling between forty

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<v Speaker 2>three and forty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, seeing the sunset huh, Yeah, that's what you see

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying, I mean it's everyone must feel

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<v Speaker 1>this way when you get overwhelmed with advances and technology

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<v Speaker 1>and the culture changes and people are into difference. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>probably everyone feels that way, like, oh man, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid today, I would that would be a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we have anybody who has made an AI to

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<v Speaker 4>kill AI? I feel my head starting to hurt. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the chip that they put in my head is turning

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<v Speaker 4>off now.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're controlling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, creepy when you think it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of creepy when you think about it. They don't need us.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even know if we're real. Is Miss Patricia real?

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this over and over again. No, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of creepy when you think about it. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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