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<v Speaker 1>What do you know? Robert Lowe. We are back with

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<v Speaker 1>the fire Escape Cast. It's episode one hundred and twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Mike Maharty, your host is always here with Dan Riker.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you laughing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Just I just think you're a funny guy, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Harry Kish.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets me every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Mary? Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>What did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>No? You just you continued a different sentence. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you'd say hi to me, But it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets me every time. And I and how do

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<v Speaker 3>you do? Michael?

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't rhyme?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? I was about to say Stanley Kwan

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just a guy that worked at CBS Interactive

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<v Speaker 2>like ten years ago. This doesn't work. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I can't do improv. But what improv part

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<v Speaker 2>of that party?

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Maharty.

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<v Speaker 1>That one's good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gotta be something with don't don't help me with this?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Michelle Kwan?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice? You're it's the same last name, just the.

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<v Speaker 2>First step on Bill Hayder's character from mestonel Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast has everything terrible intros.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gotta be the last names that Ryan was on

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<v Speaker 2>awkward pauses, Pierre.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on is a wine maker in the Rhan Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew you were going to think of that

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<v Speaker 1>one eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>On Pierce bros Non, Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, that's good. Judy den chon, that's right, everyone, yeah, immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Craig on Yeah, Sean Connery.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can rhyme with the first syllable

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<v Speaker 2>rap I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Timothy Dalton that kind of works. It's the stupidest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's restart. Jake cut all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're back. It's episode one d and twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, I'm not gonna be here next episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are. You're prepping for the New Orleans trip,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't get invited to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, yeah, No, no, no, we never. We

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<v Speaker 2>should have brought that up, Mary. We should have asked

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<v Speaker 2>him to come.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an awkward topic for to start the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a bunch of a bunch of people that

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<v Speaker 2>are coming know Mike and our friends with them too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really why do we blank on him?

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<v Speaker 3>It's my fucking I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Forgettable and I don't want him there. I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 4>birthday trip. I invited a bunch of peeps. Mike, you

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<v Speaker 4>are going on so many different work trips in the

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<v Speaker 4>next few weeks, and I just think the scheduling was

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<v Speaker 4>too much to bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Nevertheless, all of my true friends will be in Nola

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<v Speaker 4>for my birth, which is really lovely, and so I'll

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<v Speaker 4>be partying it up. We'll be We'll pour one out

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<v Speaker 4>for our homie.

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<v Speaker 2>I might drink an alcoholic drink and I might be

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<v Speaker 2>there any way and just go to all the same

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants as you and sip by myself at a nearby table.

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<v Speaker 3>If you pop out of a cake naked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, fully access to the Google sheet I made.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know where we're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>What's holding that cake? Guck my boner? Guapo?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you name your boner.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's handsome? What else would it mean? A handsome

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<v Speaker 1>ship came to New Orleans? Escape him?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's going to work for him. As

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<v Speaker 2>as Angels three, Guapo goes to New.

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans played by Timothy Dahtong.

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<v Speaker 3>Timothy dull Dong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna a Warriors game on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be cool if you mm hmm and masson.

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<v Speaker 1>Square Garden against the Knicks. Okay, Steph Curry is injured though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to see him, but I'm still excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Warriors and it'll be fun to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a next game and Medison Square Gardens see Spike

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<v Speaker 1>Lee on the sidelines say something insulting about do the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've been at MSG with you, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we talked about last episode the wrestling we got locked.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, that's right. Yes, Chad wouldn't let us back in,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, yes, yes, yeah, I don't think I've been

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in for concerts before. Jake and I went

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<v Speaker 1>and saw Portugal to man who else? I saw a few,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I've never been there for basketball or hockey,

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<v Speaker 1>both of which are played there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where the Godzilla babies were born in that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one that's actually low key.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I have fond memories of it. That soundtrack, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun cast Matthew Broderick and his area. Yea, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the one with the first with Green Day, the

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<v Speaker 1>song Doukie and the credits.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure no, the credits were the like Cash

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<v Speaker 2>Mirror by Zeppelin, but with puff Daddy.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you know that's such specific details about this

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculous film, Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>They had Rage against the Machine on the soundtrack. They

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<v Speaker 2>had Puff Daddy doing that Zepplin cover with Jimmy Page,

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<v Speaker 2>which is terrible. It's a hell of a soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great well cut Sward green Day was in

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<v Speaker 1>there somewhere. Look this up because this might be like,

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<v Speaker 1>this might be a villa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a oh they Yeah, they did brain stew brains

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<v Speaker 2>like Green Days.

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<v Speaker 3>They probably yeah a diddy guy, aren't you dan?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's up letting rage against the Machine? I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>You loved that soundtrack?

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<v Speaker 2>I did love the soundtrack. It was weird seeing Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Page and Puff Daddy ONESNL doing that song. But led

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<v Speaker 2>Zeppelin's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Dukie was brainstew on Dukie? The album? Mary? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know remember? I?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so because that was their banger album.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has to be. I believe they was on

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<v Speaker 2>Dukie or was it said it was from ninety five?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way Dukeie was like early.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineties, was follow up Soft or Slump?

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<v Speaker 2>It was on Insomniac their studio album.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think I bought that album.

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<v Speaker 1>I wait, I was waiting. I was born waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>American Idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>After September eleven. American Idiot after September eleventh. Brain Slew

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the big list of songs that you

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<v Speaker 1>Really did they mention the twin towers in the song?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that weird? They were really they were

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<v Speaker 2>really casting a wide net with the songs during that

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<v Speaker 2>that was a huge band list for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it the what is a biggie? Like? He talks

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<v Speaker 1>about the first the parking garage bombing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the world people blow up like the World Trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, trying to get paved up like the World Trade,

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<v Speaker 1>And people are like, how did he fucking know? Like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a whole other thing before.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also a very famous terrorist attack. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they kind of just got usurped a bit in

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>That turn from Godzilla to nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't know, big giant buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>And that Godzilla movie was set in New York, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the wildest thing. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've I've seen I saw that way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and then I saw the one with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Cranston when they do the Halo jump. I liked that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the Garrett Edwards, the one who was good.

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<v Speaker 1>He was slated to do Rise of Skywalker, but then J. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Abrams took back over. Okay, I might be talking his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the ones. Two got Zilla movies I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen in full where the Brian Cranston one and

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<v Speaker 2>the Matthew Broderick one. I just went to go You

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<v Speaker 2>Got Zyla Minus one after our live show in LA

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell asleep because it was a very busy day.

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<v Speaker 4>Minus one is so good. But I think the Matthew

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<v Speaker 4>Broderick one, if you can just let go of reality,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to really let it go. You have to

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<v Speaker 4>accept that it is a silly movie for silly people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good ride.

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<v Speaker 2>It was made by the Independence Day guy. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what people were expecting, like it

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were expecting a better movie. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>think Independence Day is like a slam dunk. It is

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculously good and this Godzilla movie is not in.

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<v Speaker 2>Independence Day is definitely better. It's much much better. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven and movies with New York you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about this is why I host transitions to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to transition that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist attacks. I'm not sorry, Yeah, yeah, continue, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>my interest is piqued. Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she does involve nine to eleven and New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Weirdly enough, Gangs of New York Bank and I watched that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we watched it like last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mind me asking? Is that the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since your anxiety attack?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It actually is shit, Okay, yeah, yeah. My first

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that that's a very specific thing you remember there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was my.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite motherfucker published author on my podcast. I'm familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>his overlaw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my first panic attack was in the climax of

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<v Speaker 2>Gangs of New York. So it was interesting. Turned to

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<v Speaker 2>bok happening attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Was also during a climax. Sorry sorry, sorry, so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>you and BOK watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there was a part of the end there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a good five or ten minutes. Who was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this is when I was sitting on the toilet

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought I was gonna die. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what was happening. But have you guys seen this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a few times. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I don't. We walked away from that being like

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<v Speaker 2>it should be so much But it's a Scorsese. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel day Lewis, who was like, definitely the best part

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie. He's just having a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Is build a Butcher. But it's like it's the Cap Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>who the guy who made Ado lessons that just want

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<v Speaker 2>a golden globe for that. He's one of the gang guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like it should be so much better than

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's over long, it's trying to do too

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<v Speaker 2>much shit. If it was just a revenge story, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be one thing. But it's like he tries to kill

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<v Speaker 2>Bill a butcher at the end, and then there's like

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<v Speaker 2>forty more minutes of stuff about like elections and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, what are we doing here? And then

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it shows that it doesn't it show like a

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<v Speaker 4>I actually think that that SHOT's pretty sick, just like

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of remember, just kind of fade, cross fade. Yeah, yeah, camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Set up Scorsese's crossfade.

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<v Speaker 3>What a crazy, crazy director move to have a go pro.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fucking crazy thing about that shot and why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so famous. They actually had to put a camera

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<v Speaker 3>That's our joke.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>We were making about them putting the go pro there

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<v Speaker 2>and how ridiculous it would be to do that in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen hundreds. Are you on this podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't really pay attention to what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be a funny bit, though, if I just repeat

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<v Speaker 1>the joke every time right after you. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>that movie though.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's crazy is they actually went back in

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<v Speaker 4>time to put a camera back.

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<v Speaker 1>Joke. That's my fucking joke.

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<v Speaker 2>That remind me because I get this mixed up because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that was kind of controversial because that was

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like one of the first movies, big

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<v Speaker 2>movies to kind of even reference the Twin Towers or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But then I also remember I was trying to remember, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this the movie that has like a weird rat

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, and it's like, no, That Departed, which

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<v Speaker 2>is also Scorsese, And was that also the skyline of

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<v Speaker 2>Newark or was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a separate Boston courthouse in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston and they just did a CG rat?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is the rat not real? I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember people talking about hating a CG rat.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's another one I want to go back to,

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<v Speaker 2>Is That Departed? Because I remember loving That Departed?

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<v Speaker 1>Still awesome. We we rewatched that movie pretty often. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>after you watch that, it would be a fun thing

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<v Speaker 1>if you watched Infernal Affairs in the movie at the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, yeah, that is based on I remember

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<v Speaker 1>watching that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that they made a few of those. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been curious about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Gas to New York. To your point, though, it was

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<v Speaker 1>always that movie, one of those movies by him that

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<v Speaker 1>I really really tried hard to like but just couldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>like stylistically, even during the fight scenes, it's got that

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<v Speaker 1>like blur effect that I'm like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast motion, very oh two kind of Yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you when I learned that was your first panic, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I wasn't that surprised because that movie really

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<v Speaker 1>is like not a pleasant it's excessful. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>one to one thing with the panic that but like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like, oh that kind of hung on the.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like some tortury kind of stuff too, like the

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<v Speaker 4>guy it's like hung on the fence. Like it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like I don't want to watch that for a

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<v Speaker 4>long period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it could be for other people. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>my anxiety is never like triggered by something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always just like it's more like being in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And like like I remembering Center Row like opening night,

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't get out of that. I couldn't easily leave,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I started feeling there's nothing in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But it did happen the next week or two because

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings Two Towers came out, another long movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the middle on opening weekend, and uh

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<v Speaker 2>that I just had a panic atta because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know movies could be that bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of comparing Gangs of New York to any

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<v Speaker 3>of the Lord of the Ring. Jesus, I don't Eve

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<v Speaker 3>think you're gonna get mirked on the street these days.

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<v Speaker 2>On a good day. Gangs in New York is a

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<v Speaker 2>three out of five star on letterbox. It's better than

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<v Speaker 2>any Lord of the Rings by far.

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<v Speaker 3>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>The Lord of the Rings is the only movie that

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<v Speaker 4>actually holds up to its run time where it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>like it makes sense that everything is so long because

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<v Speaker 4>there's such thick books for you to understand all of

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<v Speaker 4>the fantastic detail of why these characters are the way

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<v Speaker 4>they are. There's no reason to have a twenty minute

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<v Speaker 4>scene where Cameron Diaz pickpockets people.

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<v Speaker 3>That could have been done in ten seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>It could have just been showing her pickpocket once, but

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<v Speaker 4>they had to show her on a fucking bus or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is, and she had to go into Firsta's

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<v Speaker 4>house and pretend to be a nurse or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm even going like I will even say I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't think she was very good in that role.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there are times when, like Cameron Diaz is

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<v Speaker 4>a completely reasonable actress, not in that much she does

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<v Speaker 4>not do she nails it in the mask. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>nail this part, like she just I don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of talent bonk that where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it is a weird thing because like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>she got really big around that time for doing like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just fun like you know, Charlie's Angels. She

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<v Speaker 2>was always like a very just like everyone likes her,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's never in like super challenging roles. She was

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<v Speaker 2>never the like Oscar bait movie type thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was her kind of like out of her

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<v Speaker 2>element in a way. And she's not like terror. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like Keanu Reeves in Dracula levels bad accent, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bad accent. And she's also it doesn't help

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<v Speaker 2>to be surrounded by like Daniel D Lewis and and DiCaprio,

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<v Speaker 2>Liamba at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really hard to out act those masters. But I

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<v Speaker 4>actually believe that the reason Cameron Diaz was not able

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<v Speaker 4>to be in all of these really important films is

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<v Speaker 4>because she's so damn tall, and I think she makes

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<v Speaker 4>all of her co stars look like little shrewd boys,

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<v Speaker 4>and they don't like that. And there's only so many

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<v Speaker 4>apple boxes in Hollywood to shove all these men on,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think they give them to tiny women.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes white shut with Nicole Kidman, didn't they and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Cruise didn't they have to? Like, wasn't that like half

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<v Speaker 1>the production efforts went into making him not that much

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<v Speaker 1>shorter than.

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<v Speaker 4>Her, elongating his stunted legs, And yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it caused their divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear did you hear the story though? Where? Apparently?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh much of the production was dedicated to it long

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<v Speaker 1>and it led to their divorces.

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<v Speaker 3>I love coming. You guys were talking about the rat.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, can you believe that Scorsese became that

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<v Speaker 4>rat for one day to get that shot?

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<v Speaker 3>Then I was like, that's not very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say, I just go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You have like all these I'm just like hindered by

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<v Speaker 4>these concerns of not being funny or smart, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>just not burdened by these weights.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to challenge it. Mary said something interesting

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<v Speaker 2>about a movie that earns its run time, and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Lord of Arn has been three hours, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at lists, like I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>good examples of ones that are like, yeah, that should

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<v Speaker 2>have been three hours. Like I remember that second Avatar

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<v Speaker 2>being very fun in the theaters.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, wait, are you saying it should have been longer?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you just saying it doesn't feel like Gangs

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<v Speaker 2>in New York felt unnecessarily long?

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<v Speaker 3>It's unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I only saw it once in imax. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like Oppenheimer earned its h No. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Appenheimer, but I remember like the pacing was very

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<v Speaker 1>weird because the last thirty minutes were all that trial,

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<v Speaker 1>which I realized that's what the movie was building toward.

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<v Speaker 1>But it did feel like, oh man, this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a come.

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<v Speaker 2>Down yemer iris hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like an irishman apologist, but even I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that movie is too long?

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<v Speaker 2>Are are are three hours and seven minutes? I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a lot of fun pretty much the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. I don't I saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>Could justify it.

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<v Speaker 4>Apocalypse now is apparently over three hours. That was fucking

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic directors.

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<v Speaker 2>The over like three hours ones are like these weird

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<v Speaker 2>cuts that like I hate those cuts. They actually does

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<v Speaker 2>fuck up the pacing. The theatrical cut of Apocalypse Now

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<v Speaker 2>is not that long, and that's definitely the best one.

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<v Speaker 1>The Blade Runner has all the different ones, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Blade Runner ever got close to three in any

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's not a sound like Brave Heart. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>anytime I remember like a movie coming in two VHS's

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<v Speaker 2>like Titanic and Brave Heart, Like I wonder how Brave

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<v Speaker 2>Heart holds up, just because it's like I just watched.

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<v Speaker 4>It because I bought the double VHS for my fucking

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<v Speaker 4>CRT and it's shockingly long and it's so funny that

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<v Speaker 4>it's just like he like is like you killed my

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<v Speaker 4>wife and then it just goes to black and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it like very like nineties like it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like at Dances with Wolves or something back then.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very important and good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's trophy because it did things before. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was a joke to do things like that, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think I I was kind of shocked to

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<v Speaker 4>see all these these moments that I believe inspired Game

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<v Speaker 4>of Thrones, and I said that like out loud a

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<v Speaker 4>couple times where I was like, oh, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>the Game of Thrones. People watched this movie and we're like,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to do a scene just like this with

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<v Speaker 4>the action shots and the war shots. Very very well done.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is so early nineties it doesn't not everything

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<v Speaker 4>ages very well. I was surprised of all the times

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<v Speaker 4>where yeah, they're just showing like women getting abused or

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<v Speaker 4>almost essayed, and they're just showing it for a real

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<v Speaker 4>long period of time because they're like, that's Hollywood baby,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, that's my laf.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Would take.

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<v Speaker 3>Where he says they'll never take my freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Killers of the Flower Moon. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was way too long.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think. One of the only movies I've

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<v Speaker 2>fallen asleep in the theater for outs.

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<v Speaker 1>Granted, I saw a ten o'clock showing and that went

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<v Speaker 1>till one am, and I had like six streaks before him, and.

431
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<v Speaker 4>That movie is too long, and I think that even

432
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<v Speaker 4>though it is an important subject matter, I think.

433
00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:30.480
<v Speaker 3>It is just absolutely exhausting.

434
00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.119
<v Speaker 4>And there's an entire additional scene that's like and now

435
00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.359
<v Speaker 4>it's a play, and it's just like shut up, Like

436
00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.640
<v Speaker 4>you don't need to make all these additional scenes to

437
00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:39.559
<v Speaker 4>hammer home your point.

438
00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.720
<v Speaker 2>It's some good old like The Deer Hunter, the Godfather

439
00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Part two like those those are good, are good, the

440
00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:49.160
<v Speaker 2>bad and the ugly. That's fantastic, Like a bunch of

441
00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:50.640
<v Speaker 2>old ones could pull it, pull it off.

442
00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, good Godfather Part two for sure.

443
00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Seven Samurai Yeah.

444
00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Seven Samurai, seven Samurai good. Like the first like half

445
00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of that movie is them actually like training the village

446
00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and setting up the defenses, and then the second half

447
00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is like the actual defense And shit.

448
00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:13.599
<v Speaker 4>Are we truly confident that that movie couldn't have been

449
00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.799
<v Speaker 4>shaved down by like twelve minutes though?

450
00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Seven Samurai or Godfather Part two or are you making

451
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<v Speaker 1>a point that nothing should be three hours?

452
00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.319
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's really difficult to justify every minute

453
00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.839
<v Speaker 4>over three hours. That is a long time to make

454
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<v Speaker 4>humans sit and focus people's attentions.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Man, we're probably better during Godfather Part two.

456
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<v Speaker 3>They have to pee.

457
00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Avengers in game is over three hours. Jesus

458
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<v Speaker 2>fucking tries.

459
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<v Speaker 3>No way that earns it.

460
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<v Speaker 4>One that I do think is an interesting concept is Grindhouse,

461
00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:47.839
<v Speaker 4>which is a double features.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Different and it is a different event.

463
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<v Speaker 4>That's because it's an event and it has an intermission,

464
00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:55.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's like go pee, reset, get a drink, and

465
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<v Speaker 4>come back for a second fun film.

466
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<v Speaker 2>That's sick. The trailers and everythinglers before the second movie.

467
00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:02.599
<v Speaker 3>Like trailers.

468
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<v Speaker 1>That was.

469
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<v Speaker 2>That was a great time. That was awesome.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hateful eate the was is very long I've

471
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<v Speaker 1>been does not know. I can't.

472
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<v Speaker 3>That should not have been as long as it was.

473
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<v Speaker 1>You know what movie has grown on me a lot

474
00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:17.440
<v Speaker 1>is Once upon a Time in Hollywood I watched I

475
00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.039
<v Speaker 1>like that movie quite a bit now it's find it hilarious.

476
00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I didn't super love it the first time.

477
00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I should see it again because I like everyone in

478
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that Yeah, wall Street, I remember that being I always.

479
00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Had good cocaine, adult energy.

480
00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes sense.

481
00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway. But yeah, it's a various point, like you should

482
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<v Speaker 1>not aim for that one.

483
00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they shouldn't.

484
00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.119
<v Speaker 4>I think that this is an example of a director

485
00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:45.119
<v Speaker 4>who's just so important and make such wonderful things that

486
00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.359
<v Speaker 4>no one has the guts.

487
00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:49.920
<v Speaker 3>To be like do you need to keep that scene?

488
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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like they have no one wants to

489
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<v Speaker 4>mess with scorc And Scorsese is on this list a lot.

490
00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.279
<v Speaker 2>This dude makes long aspects the Irishman. What was that

491
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<v Speaker 2>like closer to four or something like that.

492
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.039
<v Speaker 3>He is just like someone tell him to you know.

493
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Who's going same with like James Cameron, Like, who's gonna

494
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking oh every one of the top grossing movies of

495
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:10.559
<v Speaker 2>all times is one dude? You didn't tell him how

496
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<v Speaker 2>to cut his movie.

497
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<v Speaker 4>I assume that's how he responds to the PA that says, hey,

498
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<v Speaker 4>are you sure you need this scene? He's like, oh,

499
00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.079
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna tell the person who makes the most top

500
00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.079
<v Speaker 4>grossing movies of all time that they need to shave

501
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:21.960
<v Speaker 4>ten minutes.

502
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And to be honest, fair, I mean, he's got a

503
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<v Speaker 2>pretty good argument. You know, it's pretty bullet brou I.

504
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Have to pee James Cameron.

505
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<v Speaker 1>The irony is Scorsese has a very famous editor that

506
00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>he's worked with for like years and years now. Uh, Thelma,

507
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Thelma scoon Maker like and she's known for thrashing stuff.

508
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.079
<v Speaker 1>But when she works with him, Yeah, I don't know

509
00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:45.079
<v Speaker 1>what that relationship is.

510
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Like, can I say something that is a bit ironic?

511
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.599
<v Speaker 4>I think that our podcast often goes into the three

512
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.400
<v Speaker 4>hours oh no, And I wonder if some of our

513
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<v Speaker 4>listeners are like.

514
00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, no, you should hear the rock cuts. The

515
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.400
<v Speaker 2>rock cuts are seven hours, like yeah, cuts it down like.

516
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Thelma. Yeah, he has to get in there and get

517
00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:06.519
<v Speaker 1>his hand instantly editing.

518
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.359
<v Speaker 3>But nothing from me, God, damn.

519
00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.599
<v Speaker 1>It, get you spit gold everything.

520
00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:12.599
<v Speaker 3>That was my pedigree.

521
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm with the biggest uh run times of all podcast history.

522
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Will fucking touch a minute of what I say. Also,

523
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.599
<v Speaker 4>unlike a movie where it's like you're in the theater,

524
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 4>you're actually meant to listen to this on the toilet, like.

525
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Go nuts, you want to go on a run, take

526
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:30.319
<v Speaker 2>a shirt, drive somewhere.

527
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, scratch away.

528
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Not doing that. During the Irishman, Yeah you park your

529
00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you took us wherever it needs to be. I was

530
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.079
<v Speaker 2>aur I saw Marty's course says he's a cameo and

531
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm working on the Sopranos now and there's a part

532
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>where like Christopher's waiting to get into a club and

533
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.039
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you know the line or whatever. Then Marty

534
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.279
<v Speaker 2>like pulls up in a limo and they let him

535
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Speaker 2>in and they call him like hey, Marty or whatever. Okay,

536
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 2>wonder what someone like Marty would have got, like season one,

537
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 2>before Sopranos was super established, like bringing this esteemed you know,

538
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.880
<v Speaker 2>my movie to act like it wasn't.

539
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh what a Chrissy says, like, hey, mean Streets loved

540
00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it like that.

541
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a good cut. Yeah, mean Streets. By the way,

542
00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I forget Mary, have you seen Springs? I forget? I

543
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 2>know I brought it up recently.

544
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 4>This is the show that I have quit several times.

545
00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:18.920
<v Speaker 4>I have started it like four times. I think it's great,

546
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.480
<v Speaker 4>but every time, somewhere around season two, I.

547
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Just fall off.

548
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, we're going. I assume Mike, I'm supposed to

549
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:32.440
<v Speaker 2>fucking hate Christopher, right, He's a fucking dumb ass.

550
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.839
<v Speaker 1>So the show. The show is incredible because, like the

551
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.839
<v Speaker 1>running joke is that by your third rewatch, the show

552
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 1>becomes the comedy at watching.

553
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I just watched the one where Christopher's trying

554
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to help Adriana like set up the like music producing career.

555
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh that that whole plot line yeah with oh yeah,

556
00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>his uh what's the song up? Yeah?

557
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, don't be so gay. It's really stupid.

558
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really what's their names? Because yeah, the guys

559
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.799
<v Speaker 1>are ranking about yeah, the ranting about how the Beatles are.

560
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>You're sick of hearing about the Beatles.

561
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, used to be the Filer was the band and

562
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>they changed, and we're.

563
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Coming to defile, defile you. I hate it sounds like

564
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>making with me.

565
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:23.519
<v Speaker 4>It sounds it sounds like it's an always sunny episode.

566
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 2>That comedy aspect of it, Like I'm laughing frequently. And

567
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>this is like the old music producer because, like Christopher,

568
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 2>the young mob guy's girlfriend, they come into a bunch

569
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of money basically, and she wants to become a music producer,

570
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and so he's trying to fund it. And she's like, oh,

571
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>this band of this guy I know is like so

572
00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.079
<v Speaker 2>good and they're playing these demos and everything and it's

573
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>just the worst ship you've ever heard.

574
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And my producer wants to hook up with her, so

575
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 1>he's flattering her, thinking she had taste.

576
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>All these idiots that are all these stupid, enabling terrible taste. Yeah,

577
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I just died. When they take it the hash, you know,

578
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the old music producer guy and he's listening to it

579
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>and he just goes, yeah, it's uh it's not good.

580
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 1>It's like he's like, he's like, there's some some songs

581
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>are hits. Yeah, you know when you hear it this

582
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.039
<v Speaker 1>it's not a hit. And then at the end of

583
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the episode they come back to it. I forget what

584
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like a third Eye Blind song is playing at

585
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the at the bar and he's.

586
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's a hit.

587
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a hit.

588
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love the show so much. I can already

589
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>tell him.

590
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, dude, I'm trying to think. So that's

591
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 1>what season three.

592
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I have two episodes left in season one.

593
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's that early Jesus Christ. Okay, yeah,

594
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 1>so you haven't. There's some all timers. I'm sure you've

595
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>heard of, like reference like the Pine.

596
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that references like Pine Barns and stuff like that.

597
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:39.839
<v Speaker 2>I really don't have a lot of I know a

598
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 2>couple of scenes that are Fancus. Yeah, and that was

599
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the most conversial thing in the world back then. But yeah, yeah,

600
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just loving it.

601
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>The show gets so much, like, so much funnier and also, yeah,

602
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Pine Barrens, I would love to watch that with you

603
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's the funniest forty minutes of entertainment. I've ever

604
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>scene in my life. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love

605
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that show. But I remember we rewatched it last year,

606
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's certain characters I fucking couldn't stand the first

607
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 1>few times I watched it, like Olivia Tony's mom, she's awful.

608
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, But like the more I rewatched the show

609
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and the more I'm like, just it's fucking hilarious how

610
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>awful she is and how like woe is me? Pity party?

611
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>She throws yea, but yeah, no, Chrissy's the funk up.

612
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>He's the Fredo for sure.

613
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, I love Junior. Junior cracks Man.

614
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Junior's hilarious.

615
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 2>The one where he's so afraid that people are gonna

616
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>find out that he goes down on his girlfriend. Yeah,

617
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>it's incredible. He's like deadly serious, but he's like wanting

618
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 2>to put hits out on people, but don't tell anyone

619
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>about that.

620
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 1>And then Tony and him are having the feud and

621
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Tony's getting ready to TF on the golf course. He's

622
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking he's like south of a bought. Uh, just like,

623
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>what what the fuck did he say?

624
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

625
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Give another suck because I've started it a few times too,

626
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and this is like it's like a call salting with me,

627
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 2>where it's like everyone's told me forever it's good. I've

628
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>start a better call sault like two or three times

629
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>before I finally just sat down, like I'm gonna fucking

630
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>watch this show.

631
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know I can't half watch it.

632
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

633
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that's what's fucking with me because we are

634
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 4>in a We're in a time where it's so easy

635
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 4>for me to get my little switch or my Steam

636
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 4>deck and play a game, and when I do that

637
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 4>with certain shows, they lose me and that is unfortunate.

638
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 4>And I think that is what happens each time I

639
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 4>try and watch this.

640
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>It's just sometimes it's a little slow, but it is.

641
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's important. I mean it's it's uh

642
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>that is Bonkai are treating it like when we watch movies,

643
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>which is like hard rule, like we've never look at

644
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<v Speaker 2>our phones, no text, which have I brought it up

645
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>on here before? How I feel and like I'm not

646
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<v Speaker 2>insane about this right, Like I brought this up on

647
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 2>a giant bomb where it's like, oh yeah, when we

648
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>watch movies, it's like neither of us like phones are

649
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 2>day are away and every like I am on an

650
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>island where everyone's like, that's crazy. You don't understand how

651
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<v Speaker 2>life is.

652
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, oh yeah, I have.

653
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Every fucking time we do.

654
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<v Speaker 1>That, I appreciate it. And not only do I support you,

655
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you fighting the good. I do the same thing.

656
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I like Amanda, will occasion for're getting like a text

657
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>because we're still technically like there's people working late or something.

658
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Then that's different. But like generally speaking, no, I don't

659
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<v Speaker 1>look at my phone while we're watching something like I

660
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 1>don't know I I if I'm I cheat, I'm unwinding.

661
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I don't want to

662
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>keep paying it. I don't give you shit different.

663
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<v Speaker 4>I know exactly why you're doing what you're doing, and

664
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's better for your brain and it's better

665
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 4>for your ability to focus and watch what's going on.

666
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 4>I I don't know how to describe it, but there

667
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 4>is there is a serotonin that you can get from

668
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 4>having like three devices on at the same time that's

669
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of like overwhelmingly relaxing.

670
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>That is a different things and we do that too,

671
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and I get that because it's like I'll put on

672
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>like a comedy.

673
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 4>Pad phone and I have like three different things and

674
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 4>I can watch any of them at any time.

675
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 2>And we'll certain like games and show combos will do

676
00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that where it's like, let's say, like there's a new

677
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>like Chris Fleming special in nh FBO. I've been curiously

678
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>to check them out for a long time. Oh so

679
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I was taking like that'd be a good time. Like

680
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>let's say Bonk and I are playing Pacopia or something,

681
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>put on a comedy special in the background, or like

682
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>rewatching Arrested Development, Like rewatching something's good for that, and

683
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>then you're just kind of playing a game like Pocopia

684
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.559
<v Speaker 2>where it's like you don't really have to be worried

685
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 2>about cut scenes or music or anything like That is

686
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a really fun name, but that's a whole different feeling.

687
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole different type of entertainment to me than

688
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>sitting down to watch a movie or a show like

689
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>The Sopranos, you know, like, yeah, I see what you're saying, Mary,

690
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 2>like that. That is a very relaxing thing.

691
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>It's an excuse for multi device and I think that

692
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you kind of like drinking. It's like addictive to have

693
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 4>lots of screens and it's like all these people vying

694
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<v Speaker 4>for my time.

695
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm so popularly took up my phone. But I can

696
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>also look at Netflix.

697
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 4>And I can also look at my game, and I

698
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 4>have like so much to give all these different things,

699
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 4>and I find that relaxing. But I will concede the

700
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.000
<v Speaker 4>amount of times that I've missed an important plot point

701
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 4>in a movie that I was looking forward to because

702
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't fully.

703
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Paying attention as a bummer.

704
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.559
<v Speaker 4>And the movies that I remember liking the most is

705
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:13.160
<v Speaker 4>when I go to a movie theater.

706
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>And I sit down and it is all of my attention.

707
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 4>And so I think you are you're like respecting the

708
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 4>media more by doing what you are doing. I will

709
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 4>make a sad case for multi screen. Uh, I don't know,

710
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 4>like you're just a gluttonous like it's a you know,

711
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 4>you're just being really gross with lots of screens, but

712
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 4>it feels good.

713
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But I also think it's obvious based on the media

714
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>that you're taking in. Like, look, if you go to

715
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 2>watch the Sopranos for the first time or something, that's

716
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing to pay attention to. If you're just putting

717
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>on it's a random thing it's a slippery it's kind

718
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>of obvious. Typically, if it's a rewatch, I think that's

719
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>always a decent excuse for like, oh we're going to

720
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>have the son in the background, you know, if it's

721
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a first time and it's like a good like you know,

722
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>good movies versus like you know, you can put on

723
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 2>a fast and FEUs or whatever in the background whatever,

724
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>but like if you're watching.

725
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 4>You need to you can be blackout drunk and watch

726
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 4>The Furious And every time.

727
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I believe it's wrong, I I agree with you.

728
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 4>I think these are all truths, and I yeah, I

729
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 4>don't have like a good case for it.

730
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 3>I just there. There have been so many times where.

731
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Especially forever reason, it's kind of like a stressful movie.

732
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like I'll.

733
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 4>Just get out of this stress for a second by

734
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 4>looking looking at Reddit and then and then you get

735
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 4>to go back to the stressful film and you're less scared.

736
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Because we talked about Marty Supreme and like how I

737
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>like like uncut Gems and if I had legs at KQ,

738
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>those like extremely stressful movies. That's when I most liked,

739
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>like all the lights off, I don't have any distractions

740
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>just I'm marinating in this love.

741
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>You need to watch what we do in the Shadows.

742
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You're like, uh, Jack Proch, No, Jack Proach, Mark Proch

743
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 1>like his energy vampire Colin. He just thrives on stress

744
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>when it's around, and he tries.

745
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 3>To cause it miserable.

746
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 4>And I agree, like, I think you're you're going to

747
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.000
<v Speaker 4>enjoy the experience more.

748
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 3>I think that is the way to do it.

749
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 4>And when I the last movie I saw in theaters

750
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 4>was Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, and it

751
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>was I had never seen the show before and it

752
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 4>truly was one of those immersive I walked out of

753
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 4>that movie theater and I was just like, I think

754
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 4>that's the best movie I have seen in a long time.

755
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 4>And I think part of it was just that I

756
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 4>was focused. I was just so focused on every I

757
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 4>heard every joke.

758
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's a great example because it's like there's so

759
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>many little psych gags and stuff and subtle things in

760
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>that like glances at the camera or the background, the

761
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 2>GTA four ad in two thousand and eight, you know,

762
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that like that, like if you're half paying

763
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>attention to be so easy to miss these incredibly good

764
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 2>moments you know.

765
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, visual gags are fun.

766
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>I so many people have recommended Smiling Friends to me,

767
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 4>this this animated show, and every time I watch it,

768
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 4>I think I've been distracted. I've usually had my phone

769
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 4>or something, and so every time I've watched it, I

770
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 4>haven't thought it was very funny and the and this

771
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 4>weekend I was like, no phone, watch this fucking show

772
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 4>and determined for yourself if you actually think it's stupid,

773
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 4>because I've tried three times and I don't think it's funny.

774
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 4>You guys, it's funny. I just wasn't paying attention. It's

775
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 4>pretty funny.

776
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>You just have to you have to focus.

777
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Here's what I would say, you know, like when you

778
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>play a game on Steam, it will say that you

779
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 4>bought the game to like confirm and how many hours

780
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 4>you played, to like justify that you're not a piece

781
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 4>of shit. I think that before you review a movie

782
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 4>on Rotten Tomatoes, you should find some kind of proof

783
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 4>that you didn't have your phone near you, because anytime

784
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 4>someone's like I didn't really get three body problem, and

785
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, you fucking had six devices, and it

786
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 4>shows right here that a door dash came at two pm,

787
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Like you don't deserve to review this game.

788
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dan, I think you're being like judicial and how

789
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you're you're acknowledging both sides. But I do have to

790
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>say I think it's a fucking plague the way people

791
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>watch shit with like three different screens. I also I

792
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:09.079
<v Speaker 1>resent how it's actually affecting the way people write shows now.

793
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like the number of exposition, the repeated exposition in

794
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>every episode of a show. I'm like, I fucking remember this.

795
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I just watched it. Like I also just speaking completely anecdotally,

796
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'm definitely projecting because I used to my attention

797
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>span during like a lot of stuff I watch would

798
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be rough, it'd be short. I find it very very

799
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>meditative to just focus on the one thing and then

800
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I get at the end of the day. I'm so

801
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 1>much more mentally fried when I am between like eight

802
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 1>screens at once. And I think that's why, like something

803
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like Sopranos, which the subtext, the subtle character quirks, the

804
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the like web of relationships that you're sort of keeping

805
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>track of, that's why there is a meditative aspect to that,

806
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 1>because it does demand your attention in a way. I'm like, Okay,

807
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that's why I love shows like that, The Wire, Sopranos,

808
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>mad Men, even what do we watch list year that

809
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I like, I we started, Oh the Marvelous Missus masl

810
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember we started it. I'm like, I don't think

811
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm wann to like this, And then like the more

812
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I watched them, like, oh shit, this is actually like legit.

813
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Very good visual gags in that show too.

814
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>You have to yeah, no, yeah, I feel like I've

815
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>got the energy of like that David Lynch thing where's

816
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>like you're gonna watch a movie on your fucking phone.

817
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I see that, and I'm like, yeah, I like

818
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to carry that energy in respect movie.

819
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 3>That's that's what I'm getting older and older.

820
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had the email question a few episodes ago.

821
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what are some things you're like stubbornly old

822
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 1>fashioned about. I think that's just like watch one thing

823
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>at a time? Is mine?

824
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>One thousand percent?

825
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

826
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<v Speaker 2>One more quick note on The Sopranos I was thinking

827
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<v Speaker 2>about was that I was watching it and it was

828
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<v Speaker 2>like there's a craft to the way every episode feels

829
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 2>like a little mini movie almost in a way where

830
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like an episode will have a theme where it's

831
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>like there's the one where it's like Tony is trying

832
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.519
<v Speaker 2>to break out of his normal routine and trying to

833
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 2>hang out with the guys at the country club and

834
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily mobster guys and stuff like that. In the

835
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>same episode, Carmela is kind of like to play the

836
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 2>stock market, like, oh, I've never really done this before,

837
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and like Christopher's trying to write a movie and get

838
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the mob, and so Adriana is trying to

839
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 2>do them. Like that is the episode where they're all

840
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to kind of like challenge you know, what they

841
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>are and who they've their identity has been the whole time,

842
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>like and every episode kind of has that almost theme

843
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>to it, you know, Like the college episode feels like

844
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>like a little kind of mini movie, a self contained thing.

845
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>It's that's the same one where Carmelo's with the priest

846
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 2>at home, you know, talking about you know, just the

847
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>double life stuff and every Yeah, and it made me

848
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>think about like current like I watched Prestige TV and

849
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff now, but it's like you watch the stuff that's

850
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:34.800
<v Speaker 2>big now, like like a Game of Thrones or a

851
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>House Dragons or any you know, show like that, it

852
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>feels like a long movie. It just feels like a

853
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 2>really long movie with big story points, just kind of

854
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>like uh, a flag posted out. But with Sopranos, I

855
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's got the overarching story. I mean, it

856
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 2>was one of the first serialized big budget shows. I

857
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>think OZ might have been the first, you know, the

858
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>popularized it. But like it does feel like a bunch

859
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 2>of little movies that have an overarching like the story

860
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I think is. I don't know if I've seen one

861
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>that does it as good as as Sopranos.

862
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'll still throw on just the Pine Barrens

863
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 1>every few months when I'm not even like really watching

864
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the show or I forget the name of the episode.

865
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 1>They go to this lake house at one point and

866
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 1>then Canada happens and stuff like that, and I'm like, Okay, yeah,

867
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 1>that's something I want to watch right now.

868
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

869
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>No it It's also like there's stuff going on in

870
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that show that's telling the story. I don't know, like subtext,

871
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>meta text, I don't know. I'll leave that to the

872
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Austin Walkers of the world to explain the the subtle

873
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's going on beneath the surface. And that show

874
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>is so fucking good.

875
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>It's here about the dudes that that like watch cuts

876
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of it that remove all the therapy scenes do oh yeah, yeah,

877
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>can you imagine these types of I just want to

878
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>see the cool mod I think these girls with like

879
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 2>scarface posters on the.

880
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Fucking Bill Simmons does that, and like that makes a

881
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense.

882
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>That is such a critical part of what that show is.

883
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 1>That's the whole pitch that when he gave the pitch

884
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to Warner Brothers. No, I forget, I don't think it

885
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>was Warner Brothers. Whatever, Yeah, Warner Brothers, and he was like,

886
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be about a mobster who needs to go

887
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to therapy. That was the elevator pitch. Yeah, yeah, perfect

888
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 1>nuts And yeah, well, Melfie's one of the most important characters.

889
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>There's an episode I know, the Employee the Month. I

890
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>think that's season two three. That's not an episode I

891
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>go back to rewatch often, but one of the best

892
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 1>episodes of TV I've ever seen. You'll know when you

893
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>get to it.

894
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just glad I'm on I'm talking to adults

895
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 2>here who know when to turn off the goddamn phone.

896
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>What I am agreeing with you too, Mary? When you're

897
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>doing it. That makes sense too.

898
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 4>There are times I wasn't paying attention she was on

899
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 4>the TikTok. I was looking at Rotten Tomatoes scores.

900
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 2>For different Sopranos episodes research for film listen.

901
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 4>If you guys are going to get really deep into

902
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Sopranos episodes, I am going to look at review scores.

903
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Dan call me once you finished up Pine Bearns.

904
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Like the normal Will I will? That's great?

905
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>All right? Uh? Do you want to talk about video games?

906
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it, all right? I see both of you.

907
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Weirdo has been playing Pocopia. Yeah, that is about it,

908
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 1>because I actually it seems like a game I'd like

909
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I just have not got around playing it.

910
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>So, Mary, are you a Pokemon person? Like I feel

911
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>like this might be the first time we've said Pokemon

912
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast.

913
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 3>It's very rare.

914
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.320
<v Speaker 4>You and I actually have similar alignments on it. But

915
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 4>I will go even riskier and say I'm not I'm

916
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 4>not a dissenter, but I don't play a lot of

917
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Pokemon games. But I also don't like a lot of

918
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 4>those like Nintendo casual games. I was like one of

919
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 4>the few people that just didn't care for animal crossing.

920
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Which is so odd.

921
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I think it's boring, is my answer.

922
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You're a Star Dew fan and the game can kind

923
00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of limits you what you could do per day.

924
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I'm sensing something here. Yeah.

925
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's just like I don't like to

926
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 4>be limited and I like to have very clear. Started

927
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 4>was always like, well, you need to get these things

928
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 4>created by the end of the season, you know, and

929
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.159
<v Speaker 4>people are waiting for your crops and there's like a

930
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 4>big festival, and I was like, oh, I have all

931
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 4>these things to do. Animal Crossing it's like whatever, you know, like,

932
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 4>don't worry about it.

933
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, what do you want me to fucking do.

934
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't going to buy this.

935
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.440
<v Speaker 4>I was not going to buy Pocopia, uh, because everyone's

936
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:31.920
<v Speaker 4>comparing it to Animal Crossing and I was like, oh,

937
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 4>that's not for me.

938
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 3>And uh. I saw some funny.

939
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Like clips and I saw some screen shots that made

940
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 4>me laugh, and I thought to myself, girl, you were

941
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 4>just saying how you need a cozy game.

942
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.960
<v Speaker 3>You need a cozy game so bad.

943
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Here it is like, let's just give it a shot.

944
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 4>And I will say, this is a big pill for

945
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 4>me to swallow. This game is seventy dollars, and that's

946
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 4>if you have a switch to. If you don't have

947
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 4>a switch to, this is like six seven hundred dollars.

948
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Pill to swallow to play this game, and hope you

949
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.840
<v Speaker 3>really like it. I already had a switch too. I

950
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 3>bought it for Mario Kart.

951
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 4>And because I'm a hardware junkie and I kind of

952
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 4>just wanted the switch to anyway, so I already had it.

953
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 4>So this was just seventy bucks. But seventy bucks is

954
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:28.039
<v Speaker 4>seventy bucks. I'm happy to report after about eight maybe

955
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 4>nine hours with it, I actually do think it's It's

956
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 4>pretty entertaining, and it solves a lot of the issues

957
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 4>I had with Animal Crossing, not that anybody else had

958
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 4>any issues with that game, but I was satisfied with

959
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 4>the amount of things that they said, we have a

960
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 4>plan for you.

961
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 3>We want you to accomplish this.

962
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 4>We need you to solve these puzzles, and we want

963
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 4>you to figure out where these pokemon are. And I

964
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 4>have enjoyed exploring the world and creating environments and then

965
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 4>discovering Pokemon in those environments and you get to ask them.

966
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 4>They're comfort level and they'll be like, I could use

967
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 4>a toy, and it's like, you got it, girl, And

968
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 4>I'll go run and build them a toy and bring

969
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 4>it to them, and they get so excited, very wholesome.

970
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 4>They literally will stop me and just say, hey, I

971
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 4>just want to let you know. I just love hanging

972
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 4>out with you and it's been so awesome being your friend.

973
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.199
<v Speaker 4>Here's ten rocks, and I'm like, girl.

974
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, it's.

975
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I got something. It means the world to me, and

976
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I hope it means the world view. Here's a sturdy stick.

977
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh, it's like bulbosre. Like they're just like for

978
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 4>these little ding dongs in the grass. Like I don't

979
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.159
<v Speaker 4>think they have really cool stuff to give me, but

980
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I think it's very endearing that they do give me

981
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 4>what they have. And certain pokemon give you different things,

982
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 4>like the bee pokemon will give you honey. This should

983
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 4>shock no one. They each give you different things. The

984
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 4>girder and the ones that are like good builders they

985
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 4>build all the houses. I mean, they're all helpful in

986
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 4>their own ways, and so it is. It is nice

987
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 4>to discern which pokemon are better for which different bene

988
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 4>fits that I need them for.

989
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 3>But I think you kind of don't use them to

990
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 3>an end.

991
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 4>You get to to enjoy their company and make them happy.

992
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a kind of a feel good Yeah.

993
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>It's it's cool because it's like I think you touch

994
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>on something with like you know, animal crossing is kind

995
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>of aimless, you know, where Stardu gives you some direction

996
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, hey, you need to do this for

997
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the season. We've got this festival coming up, you need

998
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this thing or whatever. And this rides that line really well.

999
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Like if you just want to zone the fuck out,

1000
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>or like we were talking about earlier, kind of background viewing,

1001
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're kind of watching something you can just

1002
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>walk around. You can kind of just you know, oh,

1003
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to build a new path to my house,

1004
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk some Pokemon whatever. You can just

1005
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of fuck around and have a good time with it.

1006
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Or it's like there are pretty clear objectives where it's like, oh,

1007
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>we found this weird building on the beach here, and

1008
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's got this weird slot that's asking for like fruits,

1009
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and then this thing and then this thing, and there

1010
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>will be like a progression where it's like oh, this guy,

1011
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>this Onyx is stuck in this cave. How do we

1012
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>get him out of here? You know, they like that

1013
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>was the real objectives, you know.

1014
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Puzzle, and they give you good guidance.

1015
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 4>Lost like a couple of times, but generally speaking, there's

1016
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 4>a very clear guy with glasses and it's like, I

1017
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know what to do, and it's like, maybe I

1018
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 4>should ask this obvious professor creature that is seven times

1019
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 4>larger than all Pokemon, so you cannot lose him, and

1020
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 4>he will tell you what.

1021
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 3>To do next. So the game gives you lots of guidance.

1022
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the search feature? This is the thing

1023
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I heard a lot of people are missing where it's like,

1024
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>let's say, you know, you got to find the caterpillar

1025
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 2>with the cut of the arms, you know.

1026
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to piss off people because

1027
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that.

1028
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, well I'm here.

1029
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Honestly. I think the fact that we're not Pokemon people

1030
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and we're liking this game, I think that's that's.

1031
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm the most posumount office. I got Bulbasor Planter right

1032
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>up here.

1033
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Obviously not because you didn't play the game.

1034
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very true.

1035
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Actually, let's say fourth, you have to find Bulbasor you

1036
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 2>can go find him on your poke deck, so you

1037
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>can just pause, go to the poke decks, go to him,

1038
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and then you press the plus button and activates a

1039
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>search function, which makes any time you talk to any

1040
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.679
<v Speaker 2>other Pokemon, it'll give you an option, and it's like

1041
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for Bulbasor and it will literally turn the

1042
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>camera and be like, I think I saw him over there. Wow,

1043
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>it's an easy way to find any Pokemon.

1044
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that that.

1045
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 4>That does make the game a lot easier because I

1046
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 4>am constantly looking for the Pokemon that I want. But

1047
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 4>the world is very calm, it's very serene, It's very Minecraft.

1048
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 4>I think people have said this a lot, but the

1049
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 4>game reminds me has a day night cycle just like Minecraft.

1050
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Everything is malleable.

1051
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 4>You can break every every block, every brick, you can

1052
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 4>kind of you can rip apart and you kind of

1053
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 4>suck it up into your weird diddo form, which I

1054
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 4>do want to talk about. And it's a pleasant experience

1055
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 4>to be in the world, even if you're lost, even

1056
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 4>if you don't know what you're doing. I have been

1057
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 4>very happy building things in this space. But but can

1058
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 4>we talk a little bit about what a little freak.

1059
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Ditto is, Yeah, it's fucked up.

1060
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 3>It's fucked up.

1061
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 4>We were just talking the other day about how some

1062
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 4>of these Nintendo games they have like kind of a

1063
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.800
<v Speaker 4>stark past or history, and they're like covering it up.

1064
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 4>This is the darkest Pokemon world I've ever heard. Humans

1065
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 4>are extinct. Ditto is taking the skin of a human

1066
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 4>and then when they make a friend that's a Pokemon,

1067
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 4>they steal their their skill by like absorbing their body parts,

1068
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 4>and then they can now punch bricks and cut grass.

1069
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 3>But they have these soulless eyes of a doll's and

1070
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>mimic humans.

1071
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I can till. I can till the soil by turning

1072
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 2>my arms into this weird armadillo thing I talked. I

1073
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>learned how to squirt from this, and so now I

1074
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>can squirt and that that's like all the dry plants

1075
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

1076
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>What Bonnie Rotten thought you had to squirt? I'm sorry, God,

1077
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>never mind.

1078
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Louise, I'm talking about Pokemon here, Mike, Yeah, sorry, Your

1079
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>head butting trees weird, Like.

1080
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Kirby, how you get the apples out of them?

1081
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have, and then it's like you'll get a

1082
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>bunch of like you know, logs and stuff and dirt

1083
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 2>piles and stuff, and you just like Hoover Kirby.

1084
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Suck them up like kind of in a week. And

1085
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 4>if you turn the camera around, it's.

1086
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Weird looking sounds like Kirby.

1087
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.199
<v Speaker 4>I like, this is it's very weird all of the

1088
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 4>So you'll find pieces of paper notebooks, and it'll be

1089
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 4>from humanity, which is gone, and the people.

1090
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Will be like getting a little worried.

1091
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 4>The weather's getting kind of bad, and it's just like

1092
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 4>the last diary entry into entries of.

1093
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 3>Dead people.

1094
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Tasty, strange, strange.

1095
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everyone said that we need to be careful about

1096
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 4>this trash, but I you know, I'm not worried about it.

1097
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 3>Last entry.

1098
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Hey, we should do something about all this trash because

1099
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.800
<v Speaker 4>there's a typhoon coming and then there's no more entries. Yeah,

1100
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, Nintendo has crossed like a barrier. This

1101
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 4>is like they're getting to this point where they're like, actually,

1102
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 4>our children are not going to have water. We need

1103
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 4>to warn the kids in this Pokemon game that if

1104
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 4>they do not take better care of the environment and

1105
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 4>they do not give a shit about this planet and

1106
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 4>about like the world around them, it won't.

1107
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 3>They won't fucking be here. It's to me.

1108
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.960
<v Speaker 4>I find this game slightly political in a good way,

1109
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 4>which is just like, yeah, teach them young that they

1110
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 4>have to give a shit or they will die, and

1111
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 4>so will the Pokemon.

1112
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe Procopia will change people's minds, hearts and minds.

1113
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 2>It's going to fix everything, I hope.

1114
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So if you go on the fence.

1115
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 4>It's that's the only part that's not cozy. But I

1116
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 4>find it fascinating and interesting that they made such a

1117
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.559
<v Speaker 4>strong choice to include the death of humanity and that

1118
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Dudo is this like mimic that just has taken over

1119
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 4>the skin of a person and makes people think that

1120
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 4>there's still humans in the world. And maybe that's for

1121
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.559
<v Speaker 4>the comfort of the children that will play this game.

1122
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 4>But you are not playing a human child. You are

1123
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 4>playing a Pokemon that has disguised itself as a human

1124
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 4>to just make you relaxed as you recognize that humanity

1125
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 4>has dissolved beneath our feet.

1126
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a strange.

1127
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Situation, the midsummer situation. You're wearing the skin of a

1128
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 2>human as you go around.

1129
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 4>But pretending and and and absolutely in every way pretending

1130
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 4>that you are the Last Person on Earth. It's a

1131
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 4>very odd I wonder what's going to happen in this game.

1132
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

1133
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm not that far in it, but I have. Have

1134
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 3>you made it rain yet?

1135
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of like the Okay, so there's like an Onyx.

1136
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 4>You you were eluding. This is the first puzzle the game.

1137
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 4>It's the first puzzle in the game. I don't think

1138
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:35.440
<v Speaker 4>it's a huge deal.

1139
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I need to that is My current objective is to

1140
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 2>make it right.

1141
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:40.440
<v Speaker 3>You're current objective.

1142
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You're like eight hours in. How do you not do

1143
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the first puzzle.

1144
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Because you you don't breed, you make spaces and get

1145
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Pokemon for like at least the first several hours.

1146
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Of learning how to till the soils?

1147
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah's a game from the outset.

1148
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 2>No, it's like, right now, my thing is I need

1149
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to put like beans and stuff into this building in

1150
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 2>an effort. Got Yeah, I think eventually make it rain.

1151
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1152
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, I generally speaking, yeah, and I don't. I

1153
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.639
<v Speaker 4>don't think this is a huge spoiler and you can't

1154
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 4>skip ahead or anything like that.

1155
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 3>As far as I'm aware.

1156
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 4>The Onyx is stuck in rocks and the game is like, oh,

1157
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 4>if only we could like loosen the soil, and it's like, okay,

1158
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 4>we need to make it rain and so and it's

1159
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 4>not raining because the weather's fucked up because the goddamn

1160
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 4>dead humans have ruined the planet, and and so you're

1161
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 4>like figuring out how you're gonna do that. I finally

1162
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 4>got that done. It's a really silly and funny sequence.

1163
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I laughed out loud multiple times, because you have to

1164
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 4>like figure out which Pokemon are the best. You have

1165
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 4>to solve their problems, get them to do the things

1166
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 4>you need to do to get them to rain. I

1167
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:50.280
<v Speaker 4>was it's a cheeky, funny game. I don't want I

1168
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 4>don't want to ruin it for you.

1169
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.360
<v Speaker 2>But writing is funny, Like when you talked, they all

1170
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 2>have their own personalities. The writing and the localization is

1171
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>really good. I'm finding myself like I've always like the

1172
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon designs and stuff, and like that's it seems like

1173
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a really cool variety. I like the way they

1174
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 2>look and stuff, but like I feel like talking to

1175
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.199
<v Speaker 2>them in this game. It's like endearing these Pokemon to me.

1176
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:09.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like I like's the first.

1177
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Time Pokemon have talked like people like Mike. You can

1178
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 4>correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe Pokemon say

1179
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 4>like Jarmander, and this is like the first time that

1180
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Charmander has like a voice and says how he feels

1181
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 4>about the world and the things around him. And they

1182
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 4>have personalities. Some of them are shy, some of them

1183
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 4>are cheeky, some of them are like funny.

1184
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 3>But they speak words they are they are talking.

1185
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 1>It's usually you're usually a human speaking to them, which

1186
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is why I think they just don't make sense to you.

1187
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Inst ghetto like yeah yeah.

1188
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And they like try and use their the.

1189
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 4>Tone this time, they use the tone in their voice

1190
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 4>to like guide you into how they're feeling. But in

1191
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 4>this game, they just literally say like I love this house.

1192
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 4>And so I'll be like, do you want to live here?

1193
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 4>And they'll be like me and it's like, yes, I

1194
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 4>saw you say I love this house like eight times.

1195
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I know you want to move in. You can have

1196
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 4>this house if it means that much to you. But

1197
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 4>like to your point with how they're giving them character,

1198
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 4>Charmander in my game threw up and it had a

1199
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 4>little voice and it just it said I threw up,

1200
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 4>like f r e W, I threw up.

1201
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very cute because he's the first evolution. He's a baby.

1202
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1203
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just think it's sweet enough that in

1204
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 4>the translations they were like, he doesn't say throw up.

1205
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 4>He says I threw up but a lot, which is

1206
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 4>like not a normal term that you would say. And

1207
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised again in the translations that they were like,

1208
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 4>it's you want to call him bud. It's like, but

1209
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 4>it's short for buddy, which is kind of like a friend.

1210
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 4>And it's just like they're using slang that works. Oh

1211
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 4>one of them. If you ask them to join you,

1212
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 4>they go just me and my bestie hanging out for

1213
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.239
<v Speaker 4>an adventure, like they like they knew that to use

1214
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the word bestie.

1215
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 3>It's cute.

1216
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And then like you'll see like hitman Chan is like

1217
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 2>up against the heavy bag, like just going nuts on it,

1218
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and you'll talk to him and he'll teach you. And

1219
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>then you have boxing gloves that you can switch to

1220
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and that is how you kind of deform the environment.

1221
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 2>And Mary, have you done the thing? Have you done

1222
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 2>mouse mode on this? Uh? Like when you break the

1223
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 2>joy cons off and you use them as a mouse.

1224
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't done that.

1225
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's cool because like when you're breaking down like

1226
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>let's say a big hill or something like that, you

1227
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.639
<v Speaker 2>can there's like a little dotted, you know, outline and

1228
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>so you know which thing you're going to break down

1229
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:32.719
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Yes, and you can look up and look

1230
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 2>down with the right sticking. Like that's good for basic stuff.

1231
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 2>But if you need to do like intensive stuff and

1232
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that goes for decorating as well, like your house and

1233
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.639
<v Speaker 2>things like that, you can so easily break off that

1234
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>right joycon and it goes into mouse mode and then

1235
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 2>you just are moving this cursor around and deciding like, oh,

1236
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm punching, that's what I'm punching, that's where

1237
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm placing this thing, like just makes it a little

1238
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 2>more you know, minute adjustments and stuff interesting.

1239
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 3>I do.

1240
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I like that decorating is not, at least at this point,

1241
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 4>it's just a heavy ask. It's more like build spaces

1242
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 4>and things that your pokemon need. Yeah, but you can

1243
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 4>tell that they're eluding that you're going to be able

1244
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 4>to build some really cool Minecraft adjacent shit because you

1245
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 4>keep stumbling across half broken like a quarter of a house,

1246
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.760
<v Speaker 4>and you'll find items and instinctively all players will be

1247
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 4>like I'm taking these windows and this bed and this

1248
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 4>dresser because this is good stuff.

1249
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>For my house.

1250
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 3>And so I'm like acquiring.

1251
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm stealing and pilfering from every house that I find

1252
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 4>because I want all these items in my house, which

1253
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.679
<v Speaker 4>I haven't built yet, but like I'm preparing myself for

1254
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 4>like all of the cool items that I'm going to

1255
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 4>put in my sick ass space.

1256
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I have like three security cameras now, and I'm like,

1257
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 2>what am I doing with the What do I need

1258
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 2>a security camera for that? Like it says like in

1259
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the menu, you can go and like watch what's happening,

1260
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like you can watch.

1261
00:55:54.239 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Your Pokemon, but it doesn't work yet. So I I travel.

1262
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm not here yet in the game, so I don't

1263
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:06.119
<v Speaker 4>know what happens. But when I first learned to dig

1264
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 4>through tunnels, I decided to dig through a mountain I

1265
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 4>because I can and I wanted to, And so I

1266
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 4>dug through an entire mountain too, an entire different area.

1267
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Have you tried to do this?

1268
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>No?

1269
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 3>And I got to a.

1270
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 4>New area and I don't think I'm supposed to be

1271
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 4>there yet, and there's like lights and stuff, none of

1272
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:26.679
<v Speaker 4>them are on electricity is.

1273
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Totally common because I've just seen the like mushroom lights

1274
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that so far.

1275
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I know, I think there's like a whole other world

1276
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 4>of this game that we don't.

1277
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Know about yet.

1278
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Well.

1279
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and another thing we didn't touch on is I

1280
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 2>think it's really cool the way that like it'll give

1281
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you the habitat info where it's like, oh, a Pokemon

1282
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>might show up if there were four flower patches on

1283
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a beach next to water, or if there is a

1284
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 2>log seat here and then like a first aid kit

1285
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 2>next to it, it might attract a certain Pokemon. So

1286
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 2>like by the wall grass.

1287
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 3>On a mountain might attract this certain creature.

1288
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:04.840
<v Speaker 4>And it gives you a stilhouette, which is very funny

1289
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 4>because that's very that who's that Pokemon?

1290
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like they just seem to really know what they're

1291
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 2>doing here. Like I can't imagine being someone who grew

1292
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 2>up with Pokemon and having such a because I don't

1293
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 2>have an attachment to these characters, and I still find

1294
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it so endearing. So it's gotta be so fun for

1295
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon fans, Like I think this is a really really

1296
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 2>cool project.

1297
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 4>I recommend this as an easy wreck for Pokemon fans,

1298
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 4>but I would even go beyond that and say, even

1299
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 4>if that's not something that you grew up with, I'm

1300
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 4>finding this to be a very comforting, very enjoyable, very cheeky,

1301
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:37.599
<v Speaker 4>funny game that I could easily spend. I'm gonna probably

1302
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 4>spend a lot of hours in this. It's a huge world,

1303
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 4>and I don't even think I've scratched the surface of

1304
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 4>this game, not including the fact that, like probably once

1305
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:51.480
<v Speaker 4>you're done with the game, you can just build shit

1306
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 4>like you can in Minecraft.

1307
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 3>So I believe it's just going to.

1308
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Be endless, and I'm not in a rush. I think

1309
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be an easy one to just like pick

1310
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 2>up on a plane six months from now and come

1311
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 2>right back to it. You did mention it's seventy dollars,

1312
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.159
<v Speaker 2>or it could be over one hundred and twenty dollars

1313
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.440
<v Speaker 2>if you were my sister Kayla, because she buys things physically.

1314
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>She went to GameStop Lovely Corporation. We Assault of the Earth.

1315
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:14.239
<v Speaker 2>We all love.

1316
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Gamesh Oh they're doing so well.

1317
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh they're just the best, oh, the best readership and

1318
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 2>everything always been great. And she went there and they're like, oh, hey,

1319
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you can't. She was on a stream when I heard

1320
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the story. She goes, I didn't know you had to

1321
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>buy like a little micro chippy thing to play this,

1322
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>And me and everyone in her chat were like, what

1323
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>did they tell you? And she was like, oh, something

1324
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 2>about like the GameCube, and we're like that doesn't sound

1325
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.679
<v Speaker 2>right well, And then it turns out what she was

1326
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 2>saying was that they pointed at the bottom of the

1327
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 2>case and it says game key card and they said, oh,

1328
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:47.639
<v Speaker 2>this means you need to buy this, and they sold

1329
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 2>her a fifty dollars microSD card and said she couldn't

1330
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>play the game without it, so her, not knowing any better,

1331
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 2>bought that brought it home. Mentioned that on stream about like, oh,

1332
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that's where do you got to buy this microchip? Like

1333
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you need to go in there tomorrow, and like she

1334
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 2>went in there.

1335
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Get the store number. Manager.

1336
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I I was ready to go nuclear with

1337
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it if I needed to, but like the manager was,

1338
00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't return it. It's opened. And then she explained

1339
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>what happened and they gave a refund. But then she

1340
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>left the store and she saw in the parking lot

1341
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the guy who lied to her was sitting in his

1342
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 2>car eating ice cream and she just drove up in

1343
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>front of him, flipped him off and just like piled out.

1344
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah fuck yeah what kind of car, Like.

1345
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 4>A yeah yeah, all that SD money, he's killing it.

1346
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He's probably fifty dollars ice cream with that ship.

1347
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 4>When parents are buying those like uh fiber cables that

1348
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 4>are like the fastest Ethernet cables alive, and it's just

1349
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.000
<v Speaker 4>a it's just one hundred dollars Ethernet cable.

1350
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 2>That's one hundred dollars on ANTMI cable. When I got

1351
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 2>my PS three and I didn't really know HTMI stuff

1352
00:59:57.719 --> 00:59:59.760
<v Speaker 2>at all, they're like, you need to get this monster cable.

1353
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 2>There's no point in having a PS three if you're

1354
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna have the like shitty built in cables that come

1355
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 2>with it. And I bought it one hundred dollars, thing

1356
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, yeah, it's like it's easy. It's I mean,

1357
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Kayla is someone who plays video games all the time,

1358
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.079
<v Speaker 2>but she's not like a tech minded person. I grew

1359
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>up playing every fucking video game and I bought the

1360
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 2>PS three and like, I don't know TV tech at

1361
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the time, and HG stuff was new to me. You know,

1362
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:22.079
<v Speaker 2>do you think this.

1363
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Will change her mind about buying physical or do you

1364
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 4>think she's still adamant about buying fit. I will say,

1365
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 4>I'll acknowledge, like there is something nice about physical copy

1366
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 4>right that makes you feel like I'll be able to

1367
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 4>play this even in an apocalyptic scenario.

1368
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 2>But I think for her it's more she does like

1369
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.280
<v Speaker 2>owning the physical thing, and also she tends to just

1370
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of help afford future games and stuff to be

1371
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 2>able to trade it in. So she'll buy a game,

1372
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>beat it quickly, return at the game stop, and put

1373
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it towards the neck, which is how I always did

1374
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.039
<v Speaker 2>it growing up. You know, although I wonder if you

1375
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.840
<v Speaker 2>can do it with that game key card shit with switch.

1376
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she knows about that or if

1377
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that even works.

1378
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, they're getting wise to that as well. They

1379
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.679
<v Speaker 4>probably I don't want you returning the game.

1380
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh they never liked the used game market. I mean

1381
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>fact that was the Xbox One's whole thing. A but

1382
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like not allowing used games originally, and you know, like

1383
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 2>that's it's never been good.

1384
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.360
<v Speaker 3>For them because they well for them.

1385
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Xbox has only been on the up and

1386
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:15.199
<v Speaker 2>up since the Xbox One.

1387
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Up and up. All right, I do want to play Popia,

1388
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.159
<v Speaker 1>but uh, let's also talk about Dan. You played Marathon.

1389
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I did.

1390
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is another big one.

1391
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting one. I yeah, I probably I'm level

1392
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 2>like eight or nine or something in it right now?

1393
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 1>There are signal progress.

1394
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mike, You're probably way more experienced in extraction shooters

1395
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 2>than me, right because I've only played.

1396
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I played Escape from Tarkov, our creators this, Uh,

1397
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.559
<v Speaker 1>played the Hunt showdown for work we we. I also

1398
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 1>like played a lot I wouldn't have otherwise, But I

1399
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>would say.

1400
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you like Do you like them in general? Yeah?

1401
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of many of them more than

1402
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I like the actual games. But I do like Tarkov

1403
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. I think there's some quality of life

1404
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff that Marathon could be learning from other games that

1405
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.039
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have at the moment. But I've played a

1406
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:12.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of Marathon. At this point, we can get into

1407
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.559
<v Speaker 1>my new show. But I'm curious Dan, how you feel

1408
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 1>about the game in general.

1409
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it looks incredible. I think the art design

1410
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.719
<v Speaker 2>is one of the coolest I've seen in an FBS.

1411
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I do think maybe it's just me being old or whatever,

1412
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>but like I would have. I would like this so

1413
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:28.119
<v Speaker 2>much more. I'd be so much more excited if it

1414
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 2>was like I want a campaign with this Bunge campaigns

1415
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 2>can be very very good historically, and it's just some

1416
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 2>more standard death match moms. Like I don't I've played

1417
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>enough extraction now. And granted there's this art creators in this,

1418
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.880
<v Speaker 2>but I put a good amount of time into both that, Like,

1419
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this genre is for me. I

1420
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.599
<v Speaker 2>like the idea, like you said, Mike, but I've never

1421
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>felt like I need I've had a valuable thing that

1422
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I need to extract with It's always just been a

1423
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>collection of like, well, this thing of duct tape is rare,

1424
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 2>so I better bring it back, you know, where it's like, oh,

1425
01:02:57.639 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I got to bring this seed to my rooster. So

1426
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 2>does something and unlocks the new menu or whatever. Like

1427
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I never like the part in between where it's just

1428
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like looking at a giant grid of shit

1429
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to parse out what matters, what I sell,

1430
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 2>what goes towards something. I do think Marathon does a

1431
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 2>good job of, like the faction contract stuff that is

1432
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 2>a pretty clear readable like Okay, this is like these

1433
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 2>are skill trees. These are I'm accepting a thing at

1434
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a time, and I know when I go in, this

1435
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 2>is going to be the thing I'm going for. It's

1436
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.519
<v Speaker 2>almost like in Fortnite, like you're not going to go

1437
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 2>in and win every time, but like you're going to

1438
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.280
<v Speaker 2>go in like accomplish a couple quests, like oh, I'm

1439
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 2>going to do a couple of weeklies or whatever, so

1440
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:37.480
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't win, you accomplish something where it's

1441
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 2>like Arc Raiders, and you know, I don't think that's

1442
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 2>always the case. So I like doing the faction stuff

1443
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 2>and leveling up the factions and getting the new rewards

1444
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the skill tree stuff. That's cool, but

1445
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 2>like all this stuff just feels like junk to me.

1446
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like, here's a bunch of m O. I feel

1447
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.519
<v Speaker 2>like I'm just doing inventory management as a huge part

1448
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of these games, and that's the part that I don't

1449
01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.599
<v Speaker 2>have fun with, and it's why I don't see myself

1450
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 2>playing them for long. I just I would of a

1451
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 2>campaign and give me some death match mode, some objective

1452
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 2>base modes, and then I can ignore the attraction stuff,

1453
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:07.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's just not what this is.

1454
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the game's weaknesses i'd say is they

1455
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.239
<v Speaker 1>throw a lot of junk. I would say Arc Graders

1456
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.920
<v Speaker 1>does this too, but Marathon to even more egregious extent,

1457
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they throw a lot of junk at you. You play like,

1458
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 1>you play a lot of this game, and you start

1459
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.519
<v Speaker 1>to realize what items are valuable for what purpose, and

1460
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you realize like, oh, this is actually really good to

1461
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 1>have to upgrade Seca Gucci once you get to a

1462
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.559
<v Speaker 1>certain point in their progression tree. Completing contracts is not enough.

1463
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:38.239
<v Speaker 1>You actually need the credits plus these rare items that

1464
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:42.559
<v Speaker 1>are basically trade in items to get that skill you

1465
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 1>want from Seca Gucci. The game could do a much, much,

1466
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:49.960
<v Speaker 1>much better job of conveying the value of those items

1467
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:51.920
<v Speaker 1>early on. I also don't even think they should be

1468
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 1>dropping those items early on when those are like level

1469
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:57.559
<v Speaker 1>thirty things you should be worrying about.

1470
01:04:57.800 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I could have put these things up and had no

1471
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 2>fucking idea it. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know. Yeah.

1472
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I also think like the UI could do some work

1473
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:07.360
<v Speaker 1>in terms of when you really break down the inventory,

1474
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:11.039
<v Speaker 1>it actually does fall neatly into categories of Okay, these

1475
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 1>are just basically automatic cells for credits.

1476
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 2>That's nice. I like that.

1477
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are these are biomass stuff that you turn

1478
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>into this faction. These are more like robotic things you

1479
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 1>turn into this faction. I just don't think the game

1480
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 1>does a good enough job of conveying that in the UI,

1481
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 1>because it can't get pretty cluttered. I do think the game.

1482
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I love the game's design. I love it's our direction.

1483
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's such a weird like nineteen nineties doss meats graphic designers,

1484
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:42.360
<v Speaker 1>fever dream meats, primary colors splashed in the most compelling ways.

1485
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 2>It's with the hylastopian corporate stuff, like you know when

1486
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I unlock, like the newcloric stuff and seeing like there

1487
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:51.000
<v Speaker 2>is a reel of weird artificial plants they're making in

1488
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 2>food and just the way they talk about it in

1489
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 2>this really kind of cold product kind of way.

1490
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Tis Trasis is like a death stranding, like she's connected

1491
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to this digital line in via umbilical cord. Did you

1492
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 1>get unlocked them yet?

1493
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.639
<v Speaker 2>No? I mean, I've just stuff. I'm like, I'm curious

1494
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 2>about this, Like it's all seems very cool.

1495
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Like I spend a decent amount of time with

1496
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the they called a codex or whatever. It is like

1497
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 1>reading the laura of the game is really cool. It's

1498
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like the art direction and the vibes of the game

1499
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 1>were so potent that they push me to actually read

1500
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.360
<v Speaker 1>laura bits, which I never fucking do. But going back

1501
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to the inventory, it's like, you play that game long enough,

1502
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and I took it for granted that I played Tarkov

1503
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:33.880
<v Speaker 1>enough that I just know what everything is. I forgot

1504
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.880
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to jump into an extraction shooter fresh

1505
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure that out. None of that is

1506
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.960
<v Speaker 1>even acknowledging the fact that most of the time you're

1507
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.559
<v Speaker 1>first seeing these items is in a chest, often when

1508
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:48.400
<v Speaker 1>there's AI lurking around, or maybe you're in a PvP firefight,

1509
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:51.119
<v Speaker 1>so you just kind of grab shit. You don't have

1510
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the time to read what it is, what it's what

1511
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 1>its purpose is when you're in the open world. So

1512
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 1>going back to base, all of a sudden, Yeah, to

1513
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.639
<v Speaker 1>your point, you just have this wilt of different items

1514
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that you have to like parse through. So they could

1515
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:06.679
<v Speaker 1>definitely do a better job upfront. And also you mentioned

1516
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the contracts. How many times I've spawned into a map,

1517
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:14.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it's perimeter or dire marsh or outpost, and I'm like, okay,

1518
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I've got this seca Gucci contract and they want me

1519
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 1>to go gather this from Relay A, and then I

1520
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.199
<v Speaker 1>need to bring that data to Relay B and then

1521
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 1>kill the commander that it summons. Oftentimes you spawn across

1522
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the map where from where that objective A is, in

1523
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 1>which case I get it. To your point, you're not

1524
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 1>going to have a successful run every time. The point

1525
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.199
<v Speaker 1>of this genre is to really impart that sense of

1526
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 1>risk reward. But to your point A, early on, you're

1527
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 1>not getting items that are just compelling on in their

1528
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 1>surface value unless you know the rules of the game,

1529
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 1>which you don't because you've been playing for three hours,

1530
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So you're not really getting that risk reward like oh fuck,

1531
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 1>should I stick around or should I go try to

1532
01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:01.840
<v Speaker 1>get one more biomass sell? But also if you spot

1533
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of the map, which is are,

1534
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all RNG the game. You can't control where

1535
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you're spawning. It's holy shit, I have to track across

1536
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:14.159
<v Speaker 1>all of perimeter. I just want to function to equip

1537
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 1>a second contract, that's all. Just if you could equip

1538
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 1>two contracts, that would solve the problem. Sure, you would

1539
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 1>still get drops where okay, both objectives around the other

1540
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 1>side of the map. I just want options because if

1541
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 1>that happens, if you're playing with a full fire team

1542
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of three or solo, And to be clear, I actually

1543
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.119
<v Speaker 1>like this game better solo weirdly enough, but it's it's

1544
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 1>still good in terms of a.

1545
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Fire play by the rook or you're just going in

1546
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>like I use.

1547
01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Recon, I use Assassin and solo and then yeah, I

1548
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 1>don't I turn off crew phill. It makes it much

1549
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 1>more tense in its own way, Like dire Marsh becomes

1550
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:50.520
<v Speaker 1>much more fun because as opposed to perimeter, which is

1551
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 1>very much like varying elevations and verticality and those canyons

1552
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going between and the like, some really fun firefights

1553
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 1>can break out in those canyons. Dire Marsh to me,

1554
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is more about concealment, where when you're solo, it's much

1555
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 1>more tense to actually be crouching through high grass and

1556
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:15.359
<v Speaker 1>moving between outposts. It's just a much more immersive experience.

1557
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.479
<v Speaker 1>It feels almost like death stranding levels of kind of

1558
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:24.720
<v Speaker 1>slower pacing. I just wish I could equip two contracts

1559
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 1>so that if I'm playing by myself, I don't have

1560
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to trek across the map to get to objective A

1561
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 1>likely and a lot of these objectives, like Tarkov has

1562
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 1>these infamous objectives missions early on, where it's like they

1563
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 1>know that all the rookies playing the game are gonna

1564
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 1>go do this loot recovery at this one specific truck,

1565
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 1>so they'll camp that truck for easy kills. This game

1566
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>at least gives you options for missions, so not everybody

1567
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.680
<v Speaker 1>playing the game the first week is converging on that one.

1568
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 1>There's still a lot of people going to that same outpost, though,

1569
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm playing solo, it's much more fun for

1570
01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.079
<v Speaker 1>me to get up to the outpost, kind of like

1571
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of reco wait on the outside

1572
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 1>for the both the gunshots to subside, get in there,

1573
01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and then it becomes much more tense because I know

1574
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to do and I know that I

1575
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.600
<v Speaker 1>could easily be outnumbered, and then that lends a bit

1576
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:19.079
<v Speaker 1>of tension to the otherwise style experience of trekking across

1577
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the map. But had the second objective, I could go

1578
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 1>right to perimeter wall or whatever and do that and

1579
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.279
<v Speaker 1>get out. It would still be successful outside of that though,

1580
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think this game is definitely leaning towards the

1581
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:35.840
<v Speaker 1>people who do enjoy PvP because I do encounter other players,

1582
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and unlike Arc Raiders, proximity chat is not super encouraged here.

1583
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 2>No, that's the things like that was the gimmick with

1584
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Arc Raiders that I think a lot of people are like, Wow,

1585
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 2>what a fun new feeling here is that prox chat

1586
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and this and like this, It's just not like it's

1587
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.239
<v Speaker 2>there that features. Yeah, Like it's not at all. They're like,

1588
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 2>are you cool? Are you cool? Like are we going

1589
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to work together? Like none of that happens.

1590
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 1>The time I know, the time to kill us too

1591
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 1>fast in Marathon also is built like a much faster

1592
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 1>paced game, so I think people feel compelled to kill

1593
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>everything they see on site. And thirdly, Art Greater is

1594
01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a thing that people don't always talk about. It doesn't

1595
01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 1>just encourage cooperation, and the fact that it has proximity chat,

1596
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.359
<v Speaker 1>many of the enemies are too difficult for just one

1597
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 1>team to take down by themselves. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

1598
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Marathon it's like it's occasionally I'll come into these commanders

1599
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they're called, or the cloaking enemies, but you could still

1600
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 1>take them out even in solo. I'm fine with them.

1601
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:35.319
<v Speaker 1>There's no there's nothing in the world really encouraging you

1602
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 1>to team up with other players. In fact, Seca Gucci,

1603
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the factions their entire the first like mainline

1604
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.399
<v Speaker 1>quest for them is telling you to kill other players.

1605
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.159
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of impetus in this game, in

1606
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the very design that Bunge's put in place to kill

1607
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>other players on site. In fact, I don't I don't

1608
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.279
<v Speaker 1>know what the proximity chat is for when the rest

1609
01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of the game is like strictly pushing you toward killing

1610
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:01.239
<v Speaker 1>other players.

1611
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shoot first, ask questions like, yeah.

1612
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 2>A single one of those merry where it's like the

1613
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Arc Raiders things where the prox chat, Like, I've never

1614
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:11.960
<v Speaker 2>had an encounter where we're talking back and forth, even

1615
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 2>talking really not saying I haven't had a good one

1616
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a bad one. I'm saying I have not had a

1617
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:17.960
<v Speaker 2>single time where it's like, well, hey, what's your deal there?

1618
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Like where Arc Raiders. I feel like pretty much every

1619
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 2>time there's.

1620
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:23.119
<v Speaker 4>A little and it's so cheeky and funny, like it's

1621
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.079
<v Speaker 4>really I think it's kind of one of the humorous

1622
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.319
<v Speaker 4>parts of that game is that it's a serious situation

1623
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 4>and someone's running by being.

1624
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Like those guys are bad, those are and you like

1625
01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 3>hear them saying things to each other.

1626
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 4>It adds like a lightness, you know, a little bit

1627
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:41.600
<v Speaker 4>of a joke to what's going on? Is this game

1628
01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:44.640
<v Speaker 4>like just straight up serious solo shoot?

1629
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1630
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's nothing funny about it.

1631
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's nothing funny about it.

1632
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:51.159
<v Speaker 2>You were talking any game.

1633
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Bonk likes to play Arc Greader solo.

1634
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Do you think she would like to play Marathon because

1635
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:57.359
<v Speaker 4>it could be played more solo?

1636
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Hard to say, and she's kind of moved on from

1637
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.359
<v Speaker 2>ourc Raiders right now. So yeah.

1638
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 1>It's also the fact that, like it's funny because Marathon

1639
01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.640
<v Speaker 1>when it is like firing on all cylinders. I like

1640
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the game quite a bit. Like there's missions later on

1641
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:22.279
<v Speaker 1>in certain factions' main quest lines where it starts to

1642
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 1>congeal what you're chasing in each contract or in each

1643
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.000
<v Speaker 1>faction's ecosystem. You start to learn what individual items are for,

1644
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:33.439
<v Speaker 1>you start to learn the strengths and weaknesses of the

1645
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 1>eighteen different weapons whatever it is something like that. But

1646
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:40.479
<v Speaker 1>even before that, there's times when I'm on dire marsh

1647
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, okay, it's a three part mission. I

1648
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>need to go to this place and I need to

1649
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 1>download this satellite data and then a drop ship's gonna

1650
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:50.960
<v Speaker 1>come in. Then I gotta jump on top of it

1651
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and plant some C four on top of it. Blow

1652
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that up. That's gonna piss this commander off. He's gonna

1653
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 1>come out of hiding. I gotta kill him. And sometimes

1654
01:13:57.880 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that's with a fire team, and I'm playing with two

1655
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 1>people that I know well, and the game does encourage

1656
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's difficult enough where it encourages cooperation. The fact that

1657
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>not even to mention the fact that another team could

1658
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 1>come ambush us, which makes it all the more tense

1659
01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in some situations. But like there's times when everything in

1660
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:18.079
<v Speaker 1>this game coalesces and it's extremely fun and there is tension,

1661
01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>there is a risk reward factor. We'll be like, Okay,

1662
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 1>how are your inventories looking. I just found a purple backpack.

1663
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, I have like sixteen more slots I can fill. Now,

1664
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 1>let's get out of here. I have awesome stuff. We

1665
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't even completely objective, but we have inventory that we

1666
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:37.479
<v Speaker 1>understand and we know how valuable it is. So it

1667
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 1>makes the situation all that more intense because you really

1668
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>want to fucking get out. And then you see that

1669
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a guarded x fill, so we got to fight AI.

1670
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's also the last one remaining with four minutes

1671
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 1>left in this match, so there might be a team

1672
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:51.079
<v Speaker 1>or two that we're going to run into. So then

1673
01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it becomes the rules of the game. Once the player

1674
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 1>understands them, they can then kind of understand how tense

1675
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.560
<v Speaker 1>things really are. The problem is, I don't think the

1676
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 1>game does the best job of onboarding you and teaching

1677
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:07.439
<v Speaker 1>you what things are for and how the stakes can

1678
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:13.600
<v Speaker 1>raise from that ecosystem. But it's like, just like Destiny,

1679
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it feels great, Like it's a good feeling shooter. Bungee

1680
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make anything else really like.

1681
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's part of what like I don't

1682
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:24.319
<v Speaker 2>like is that, man, it's so good, it looks so

1683
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.119
<v Speaker 2>good and it feels so good. The gunplay is that

1684
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of classic Bungee, like, man, nobody's really doing it

1685
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>quite like them, and that like there's almost this wistfulness

1686
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:33.760
<v Speaker 2>for like, ooh, but what if they had a campaign

1687
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.319
<v Speaker 2>and that looked and felt like this, you know, and

1688
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 2>like that's my overwhelming feeling with this game is like,

1689
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:40.600
<v Speaker 2>there's so much good here. I wish they put it

1690
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:41.560
<v Speaker 2>in a form factor that.

1691
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I like, you know, yeah for sure. And I also

1692
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.319
<v Speaker 1>think it had the same has the same problem that

1693
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the First Destiny had when it came out. It's like,

1694
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 1>there are cool ideas here, but there's also just not

1695
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that much content, not a ton of longevity. There's four

1696
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:59.359
<v Speaker 1>maps three four the Perimeter dire marsh Outpost, and there's

1697
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:02.399
<v Speaker 1>one coming yeah, yeah, some stuff coming down the road,

1698
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's just I just wish, yeah, I wish they're

1699
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:11.640
<v Speaker 1>working on the onboarding. I saw today they added today

1700
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>or yesterday I saw they added increasing the amount of

1701
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.680
<v Speaker 1>AMMO lying around the world and that enemies drop, and

1702
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I think they're lowering the health of the AI enemies

1703
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the UEESC. I think people are having problems with the

1704
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Ammo retention early on, and also Ammo's expensive. If you

1705
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.239
<v Speaker 1>don't find in the world, you have to buy it,

1706
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's another part of the loop that I wish

1707
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew earlier on was that important was like you

1708
01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:37.920
<v Speaker 1>should be getting the upgrades in the factions that unlock

1709
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 1>items for free in the shop, so you sign on

1710
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.399
<v Speaker 1>daily and you get a ton of free shit. I

1711
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that when I was like my friend gues.

1712
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 4>That's like the trick with R graders as well, which

1713
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.399
<v Speaker 4>is you always use the free kit, but you might

1714
01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 4>be tempted, especially as a young player, to be like, well,

1715
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I just got this sick new gun, I'll bring it

1716
01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.479
<v Speaker 4>with me, and then you die and you lose your

1717
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:02.079
<v Speaker 4>precious gun. Yeah, and that's really defeating for an early player.

1718
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:04.359
<v Speaker 4>So it's important to have that info if you're gonna

1719
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:05.039
<v Speaker 4>give it a try.

1720
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. But yeah, all which is to say,

1721
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:11.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like, there's some really cool stuff here, not without

1722
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:15.039
<v Speaker 1>its flaws, for sure. I just I think it would

1723
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.600
<v Speaker 1>hook more people early on if they paved over some

1724
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 1>onboarding obstacles and then it's a lot.

1725
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I imagine, like you know, first person shooters

1726
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and online multiplayer first person shooters have historically been one that, like,

1727
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Halo was you know, a hardcore you know

1728
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 2>gamers and stuff would love it. But also people that

1729
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:34.920
<v Speaker 2>buy two games a year loved Halo, and I can't

1730
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 2>imagine if you're one of those gamers that buys like

1731
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:41.560
<v Speaker 2>GTA every ten years and Madden every couple of years

1732
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.439
<v Speaker 2>and then you get this. It's just speaking a language

1733
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that like, I play video games for living and I

1734
01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:48.920
<v Speaker 2>my head is spinning when it's like this is starting up,

1735
01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:50.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, wait, what what is this? What do

1736
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I need? Like I cannot imagine being like a more

1737
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:55.239
<v Speaker 2>casual gamer and loading this up and being like, what

1738
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 2>even is this? This is why the Halo guys, what

1739
01:17:58.159 --> 01:17:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the fuck is this? Yeah?

1740
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>No, game is a kind of needs to be a commitment,

1741
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:05.159
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people hear that and they get excited.

1742
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:07.399
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people hear that and they're like, ah,

1743
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, yeah, no, fair enough. I uh, I

1744
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 1>just I you know, I was I've been playing with

1745
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>people and I and I know extraction shooters enough to

1746
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.079
<v Speaker 1>sort of see through the matrix with some parts early on.

1747
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I do think because it's Bungee, because they're making a

1748
01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:26.199
<v Speaker 1>very good looking game that's absolutely going to attract people

1749
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>that don't really know extraction shooters, I do think there's

1750
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.039
<v Speaker 1>still more work to be done on the front end

1751
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to ease their transition into this very very punishing world. Sure, yeah,

1752
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but uh, Mary, what is a big walk similar to

1753
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 1>a marathon? It is?

1754
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 3>This is a great Now.

1755
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:51.520
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a host. God fuck, I'm so good that, Jane.

1756
01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 4>We don't traditionally cover games in early access or like

1757
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.479
<v Speaker 4>demos and things like that, so this is a different

1758
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:02.439
<v Speaker 4>one for me. And I will preface it with like,

1759
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 4>this game isn't out yet, I haven't played this full thing,

1760
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:09.000
<v Speaker 4>but this is from the people who made untitled Goose game,

1761
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 4>which I adored that game and I like that game studio,

1762
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:12.760
<v Speaker 4>and they just.

1763
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 3>So happen to have a playable.

1764
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Experience in Portland and invited me to go play this

1765
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:23.880
<v Speaker 4>game for an hour with three of my friends.

1766
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, I should do this. It's

1767
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:27.079
<v Speaker 3>a cool experience.

1768
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Once again, I didn't get an invite.

1769
01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's in Portland.

1770
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's very It's not often that Portland gets

1771
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:34.600
<v Speaker 4>a sick game demo.

1772
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:36.399
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is so cool and this never

1773
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 3>happens here.

1774
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean they did it online too, we did it

1775
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 2>with Giant Bomb, but you know, it's.

1776
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 3>The in person experience is unbelievable.

1777
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Though.

1778
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:52.119
<v Speaker 4>The in person experience was really cool and you'll never

1779
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:54.279
<v Speaker 4>be able to have the joy that I had with it.

1780
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm drinking gin from Portland right now.

1781
01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:58.760
<v Speaker 4>They did a lot of cool stuff, but that's not

1782
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.359
<v Speaker 4>what I'll talk about because I don't care at it. Oh,

1783
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:01.039
<v Speaker 4>I do want to hear about this.

1784
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Gin though Freeland. Freeland spirits shaped like a tear drop.

1785
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You can get a green bottle of forest gin. It's

1786
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:08.199
<v Speaker 1>really good.

1787
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:09.760
<v Speaker 2>They're going to balance that on a shelf.

1788
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like the wide spots at the bottom.

1789
01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh they got flat stuff.

1790
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Ye kind of vessel anyway.

1791
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 4>A Big Walk is a multiplayer game that you would

1792
01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:25.159
<v Speaker 4>play online with other people. You kind of look like ants,

1793
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:28.319
<v Speaker 4>but I don't think you're You're a nondescript.

1794
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Look like the birds with the what the Homer when

1795
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the Big Homer episode?

1796
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, the ones that with the bobble and they.

1797
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Did yeah yeah, yeah Yeah.

1798
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.399
<v Speaker 4>They kind of look like that, and it has it

1799
01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:41.800
<v Speaker 4>has proximity chats, so your idea is to kind of

1800
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.720
<v Speaker 4>find them. I find this game very sweet and endearing,

1801
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.880
<v Speaker 4>where at least the component that I played was about

1802
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:49.279
<v Speaker 4>an hour.

1803
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't really tell you what to do or how

1804
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:53.600
<v Speaker 3>to do it. They just drop you off.

1805
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.279
<v Speaker 4>And so when we eventually found each other and we

1806
01:20:56.319 --> 01:21:01.199
<v Speaker 4>played around in this world, we had to.

1807
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Figure out what to do.

1808
01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:04.439
<v Speaker 4>You go out into this grassy world, and you kind

1809
01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:07.399
<v Speaker 4>of naturally learn over time that you can do fun

1810
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 4>things like stand on each other's shoulders. You'll come across

1811
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.800
<v Speaker 4>these structures where there's a very obvious button, but it's

1812
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.840
<v Speaker 4>too tall for you to you know, push.

1813
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:17.920
<v Speaker 3>The button on your own, and so you do.

1814
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:20.199
<v Speaker 4>Eventually, you know, recognize you need to pick each other

1815
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:23.960
<v Speaker 4>up and help each other achieve these goals, these very

1816
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.159
<v Speaker 4>loose puzzles in this type of game, Unlike so many

1817
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.399
<v Speaker 4>of these games like Peak, which I also like, there's

1818
01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:38.279
<v Speaker 4>no hunger, there's no stamina, there's no death, there's no enemies.

1819
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:44.279
<v Speaker 4>This is very lighthearted, casual fun that you could play

1820
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.920
<v Speaker 4>with a true gamer friend. I think you could also

1821
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:50.279
<v Speaker 4>play this with a kid, not too young, but I

1822
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:51.600
<v Speaker 4>think you could play this with like a ten year

1823
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:52.720
<v Speaker 4>old and they would figure it.

1824
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Out and like cooperative puzzle solving.

1825
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:59.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's really enjoyable, and I thought it was

1826
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:01.520
<v Speaker 4>a thoughtful little romp.

1827
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:03.199
<v Speaker 3>What I also really liked about it.

1828
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Was after we had solved some puzzles and we were

1829
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:06.800
<v Speaker 4>just walking around.

1830
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:08.720
<v Speaker 3>This game does have day night cycles.

1831
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 4>The path diverged left and right, and we decided to

1832
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:16.520
<v Speaker 4>go right and it was just a nice ocean view

1833
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:20.800
<v Speaker 4>with the sun rising, and we sat there and we

1834
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:23.520
<v Speaker 4>watched the sunrise together as the four of us, and

1835
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:26.479
<v Speaker 4>we talked about, you know, our favorite moments in gaming,

1836
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:27.960
<v Speaker 4>and we just kind of bonded for a little bit.

1837
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I don't know the last time

1838
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 4>I've ever had a moment like that with friends and

1839
01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 4>games because I'm always so worried about dying.

1840
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:35.399
<v Speaker 3>In this type of game.

1841
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:39.560
<v Speaker 4>Because it's so chill, you can take the time to

1842
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:42.479
<v Speaker 4>just hey, oh, you saw painting, and you notice that

1843
01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:44.720
<v Speaker 4>you could paint each other's bodies. You could just do

1844
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:46.800
<v Speaker 4>that for twenty minutes if you wanted to without ever

1845
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:48.039
<v Speaker 4>worrying about time.

1846
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that's really cool because like you are starting

1847
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to see more like I don't want to say, like

1848
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>all in the friends slop genre or whatever. That is

1849
01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 2>such a specific thing, you know, and that makes me

1850
01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>think of Rebo and Peek and stuff, but like they're

1851
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.800
<v Speaker 2>games like a sledding game. Have you heard of this?

1852
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I haven't played that, but we played.

1853
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.159
<v Speaker 2>It recently and it is very much a like multiplayer

1854
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.039
<v Speaker 2>hangout thing where it's like a little dart games and stuff,

1855
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>or you can go sledding. You can do a little race,

1856
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:13.439
<v Speaker 2>you can go hang out here, or you can just

1857
01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:15.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of sit by the fire and talk proc chat

1858
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. So like, I think it's really

1859
01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>cool that games are doing that now, but I've mainly

1860
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>seen ones like sledding game and there's another one that

1861
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm blinking on, but like where it is just about

1862
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:28.520
<v Speaker 2>hanging out with no objective, whereas like Big Walk is

1863
01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:30.479
<v Speaker 2>one of the first ones I've seen where we we

1864
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Packler did the preview event thing and we talked

1865
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>over his his footage of it, and it looks awesome

1866
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and it looks like you can get that sense of

1867
01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>like you sitting around with your friends talking about gaming

1868
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>memories by the fire or watching a sunset or something.

1869
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 2>But then you can see like a weird playground looking

1870
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>thing with a bunch of buttons and keys over here,

1871
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 2>and you can go like, oh, there's something to do here.

1872
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.840
<v Speaker 4>There's there's a puzzle this going on. Yeah, there's some

1873
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of it's all visual. There's no text on anything.

1874
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:55.760
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't say like.

1875
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Find the three heads to you know, to get the mystery.

1876
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.479
<v Speaker 3>No one of it is explained. It's all visual.

1877
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I speaking of visual I love the look

1878
01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of it. I think, like you talked about the things

1879
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.319
<v Speaker 2>just looking like these these kind of weird, almost cartoony

1880
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:12.439
<v Speaker 2>trash figures. But then it's also set across like fairly

1881
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.800
<v Speaker 2>realistic looking art style like hills and mountains and rivers

1882
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and sunsets and things like that. So it's just got

1883
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.079
<v Speaker 2>this really peaceful vibe to it. And it's got the

1884
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>prox chat thing where you got got like a little

1885
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:27.560
<v Speaker 2>beak basically that's come when you talk. Yeah, I've saw

1886
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>some stuff where it's like there was like you had

1887
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to stay on this one button and then you had

1888
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to send someone like way across this chasm to the

1889
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.239
<v Speaker 2>other and you're like looking through like binoculars and you

1890
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.239
<v Speaker 2>can't talk to them because they're so far away, but

1891
01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>like you seem like, yeah, he's over there, he's about

1892
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to get to the thing. Like. It makes me very,

1893
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:44.560
<v Speaker 2>very interested in that game. It seems like a great

1894
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:49.479
<v Speaker 2>mix of just like fun goofy friends slop esque Proxchat shenanigans,

1895
01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and also like, hey, there's some puzzles to solve here,

1896
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:55.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's interesting that every puzzle I heard

1897
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>can go up to four players. So let's say you're

1898
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.279
<v Speaker 2>playing with four people. There will be four buttons, four

1899
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>keys that need to be manipulated, and you can add more.

1900
01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. It goes up to eight or twelve

1901
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

1902
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 3>A certain amount. I think it might be twelve, but

1903
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:09.199
<v Speaker 3>the puzzle maxes.

1904
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you so what's neat about is you could

1905
01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.119
<v Speaker 4>have someone who's like you could like have again, you

1906
01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.439
<v Speaker 4>could have like your ten year old nephew join and

1907
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:20.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe he's stupid, like a real stupid kid, but he

1908
01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 4>can sit with you and you can solve the puzzles

1909
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:23.840
<v Speaker 4>without yelling at him to.

1910
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Like pick up the thing. You can do it to like,

1911
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:27.359
<v Speaker 3>you could just hang out.

1912
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not like like a portal co op thing where

1913
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like both parties need to be fucking you have

1914
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to be.

1915
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Functional, and it takes to play that with another person.

1916
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:39.640
<v Speaker 4>In this game, a real ding dong can just hang

1917
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.439
<v Speaker 4>out with you. They can even probably kind of mess

1918
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 4>you up and mess with you a little bit and

1919
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>you'd still be able to get through it.

1920
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point that, like, yeah, if the Caps

1921
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>had a four puzzle, wise you can have four like

1922
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.439
<v Speaker 2>adult friends that are going to like do the puzzles

1923
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and then like somebody could literally just be hanging out

1924
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:55.279
<v Speaker 2>or like, hey, buddy, why don't you go you go

1925
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:57.319
<v Speaker 2>watch us from over here and you tell us, you know,

1926
01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>if you see this thing light up or whatever, but like, well, tell.

1927
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.199
<v Speaker 4>Me about your day, because I don't see you enough,

1928
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:04.560
<v Speaker 4>and I like you. I'm actually playing this puzzle with

1929
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:07.239
<v Speaker 4>my friends, but like ump, jump in and join us

1930
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:08.079
<v Speaker 4>and just in, you.

1931
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Know, not to hurt anything. Yeah, I think this has

1932
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the potential to be a very special one, Like I

1933
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>really do. Like I kind of don't like the friend

1934
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>slop term necessarily since it does seem to kind of

1935
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:22.079
<v Speaker 2>like it seems insulting almost in a way. It was

1936
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the word slop for what it's worth.

1937
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's going the route of walking simulators,

1938
01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:31.479
<v Speaker 1>which made themselves at first word derogatory, but then they

1939
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>embraced it, much like punk rock was derogatory and they

1940
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:36.079
<v Speaker 1>embraced it. So I do think friend slop is kind

1941
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of becoming part of the vernacular.

1942
01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>And for the record, like friend slop stuff like pure

1943
01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>ass friend slop Repo and Lethal Company and all that shit.

1944
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I like that stuff. I think that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1945
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I think this seems like a meaningful evolution of that

1946
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 2>where it has kind of the hallmarks of it with

1947
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the prox chat and the silly stuff and everything, but

1948
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like it seems like it's going to have an interesting,

1949
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>like larger kind of object within it. You know, I'm

1950
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>very excited about this.

1951
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:04.880
<v Speaker 4>You can see where it's going. So originally, when we

1952
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:07.119
<v Speaker 4>do it, you get nothing. You have nothing in your hand.

1953
01:27:07.199 --> 01:27:09.079
<v Speaker 4>You get a light that you can like turn on

1954
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.279
<v Speaker 4>and off, which you need sometimes when it's really dark

1955
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:14.159
<v Speaker 4>and you can't see. But towards the end, we were

1956
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:17.039
<v Speaker 4>like stumbling across like a whiteboard where you could like

1957
01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:19.239
<v Speaker 4>write on the board and lift it above your head,

1958
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:22.119
<v Speaker 4>and so I could be like, imagine a world where

1959
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 4>prox chat exists, Right, I can't yell at you Dan

1960
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:27.359
<v Speaker 4>at the other end of the chasm where I should

1961
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.520
<v Speaker 4>be my dick. I would write that on a I

1962
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:34.000
<v Speaker 4>would write that on a whiteboard above my head, and

1963
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:35.720
<v Speaker 4>you would be able to read it and then and

1964
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:39.279
<v Speaker 4>then react to it. So it's like different methods of

1965
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 4>communication from a whiteboard to maybe a walkie talkie, uh,

1966
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.720
<v Speaker 4>maybe a speaker that only goes one way. And so

1967
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.039
<v Speaker 4>they're toying with the ways you can talk to each other.

1968
01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just like the hands going up and down,

1969
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>like doing like you know, air traffic control type stuff.

1970
01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I was doing all sorts of hand signals. I was,

1971
01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:57.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, anything I could do there.

1972
01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>You're you have like little ball fists, so you can't

1973
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:02.079
<v Speaker 3>like do obscene gestures. But I think you can make

1974
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>it out.

1975
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:04.520
<v Speaker 4>I think you could expect you could kind of put

1976
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:05.359
<v Speaker 4>two and two together.

1977
01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>This seems like one that we need to make sure

1978
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>to get us and Jake together and play some of

1979
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>this this.

1980
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, Yeah, I agree.

1981
01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited definitely.

1982
01:28:16.880 --> 01:28:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Mike.

1983
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I gotta ask you, because everybody's talking about this game.

1984
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.520
<v Speaker 3>You're playing Slay This Fire too.

1985
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

1986
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Pretty hooked on it. I started it, got an early

1987
01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>access on Sunday, meant to play just a couple hours.

1988
01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Check it out, talk about it tonight on the show.

1989
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm on like twelve hours now. I like

1990
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it quite a bit. It's funny. I don't think it's

1991
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>doing it's not doing anything majorly new since the first

1992
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>game or since any other you know, like the first

1993
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>game wasn't the first deck builder RPG. But I do

1994
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>think it helped popularize it. Now that I'm playing the

1995
01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>second game, like people are saying, Okay, what's like the

1996
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>main new thing with the first is like it's almost

1997
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:03.359
<v Speaker 1>like Haites two. It's just like every little thing feels

1998
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:06.199
<v Speaker 1>like a refinement of the first game. I will also

1999
01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>say I think this game is really good at giving

2000
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you several paths you can go down. You get the epochs.

2001
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You can unlock new characters or unlock new items by

2002
01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>completing these specific objectives like defeat the first two bosses

2003
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Silenced, or defeat the first boss with Ironclad,

2004
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:29.199
<v Speaker 1>or get this many kills in one run with the Regent.

2005
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I only have three characters right now, but yeah, it's

2006
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. It's extremely sleek. I'm unlocking new cards at

2007
01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a pace that's on par with like Blatro. I feel

2008
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:47.079
<v Speaker 1>like I'm starting to feel like I'm mastering a character,

2009
01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:48.439
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, they throw three new

2010
01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:51.199
<v Speaker 1>cards at me, or a new enemy that's doing something

2011
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen an enemy do, or a mechanic is introduced,

2012
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>like okay, I get what thorns do. Then they're like,

2013
01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, what do what are automatons? What's that? Effect,

2014
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and then I'll of a sudden, I have to account

2015
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>for that when I'm building a deck with a character,

2016
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.079
<v Speaker 1>because I know I'm going through an area with them.

2017
01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I just finally, I just did my second run through

2018
01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the Deep Well I think it's called, which is like

2019
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.359
<v Speaker 1>all like the Sewers of the Spire, and that's a

2020
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of weird, fucked up aquatic enemies. And the game's

2021
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>also incredible in the way that I will fall. I

2022
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>will start falling into comfortable habits with the silence. It's

2023
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the dual Dagger it was in the first game. It's

2024
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>a dual dagger deer mask poison based class. And I'm like, okay, cool,

2025
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I can just keep building around these shives, which you

2026
01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>play a card like. I barely remember any of their names,

2027
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's like you play a card that Okay, I

2028
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:47.159
<v Speaker 1>apply eight block to my character and then I'm gonna

2029
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>draw a shive, and then I'm gonna play another card

2030
01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:53.359
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, draw four shives. And also every

2031
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:57.399
<v Speaker 1>shive does double the damage. Shives are amazing because they

2032
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>do not cost any action points energy in this game.

2033
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:03.439
<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden, I have nine shives in

2034
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>my hand. And I could play them all for free

2035
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing double damage. I'm like, okay, shives are

2036
01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:11.039
<v Speaker 1>the way to go with this character. Then all of

2037
01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a sudden you're encountering enemies that put this effect called

2038
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 1>ringing on you. They basically like audio stun you, so

2039
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you can only play one card in a hand. And

2040
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, fuck, shives won't help me because I

2041
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:26.199
<v Speaker 1>can't throw like eight of them at them. Similar to

2042
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>how you'll get a what's it called a boss? What

2043
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>are the boss is called? In Bilatro? Uh?

2044
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>No, jokers? Are the fucking I think they're called bosses?

2045
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Aren't the boss? Or like they were a blind?

2046
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Blind?

2047
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:42.359
<v Speaker 3>I think, I don't know you think they have blind but.

2048
01:31:42.439 --> 01:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>You'll you'll think you're gonna have a successful run no

2049
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>matter what. You're like, I can't see anybody beating me.

2050
01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden you get to the

2051
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>blind or the boss in this game, one of the

2052
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:53.039
<v Speaker 1>first two. Well I've only ever beat two bosses so far.

2053
01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:58.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well fuck, their entire m O completely contradicts

2054
01:31:58.279 --> 01:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>what I've built and I had no idea this was

2055
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, and like it's the game is still

2056
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:05.199
<v Speaker 1>good about giving you a enough experience and unlocks after

2057
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>those runs where it doesn't feel unfair, but it still

2058
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:11.079
<v Speaker 1>is very good at keeping you on your toes. And

2059
01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:14.479
<v Speaker 1>it is a game in which you can easily fall

2060
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>into comfortable habits with different characters, but again introduces new

2061
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>cards that kind of unlock a new dimension to each

2062
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of these characters, and introduces enemies that counter all these dimensions.

2063
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>That it does make you actively think as you're playing.

2064
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:34.119
<v Speaker 1>It's really good. I also say, like of any deck

2065
01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>builder I've ever played that has combat involved, so Billatro

2066
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>not really but sort of. I've thought about defense in

2067
01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>this game and blocking more than anything else I played,

2068
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>including Monster Train. What was the one that the Steam

2069
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>World quest like. I'm usually always like on the offensive,

2070
01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>just kill like it's a numbers game. Take out one

2071
01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:01.439
<v Speaker 1>enemy this turn, so there's one less enemy that can

2072
01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:04.319
<v Speaker 1>hurt you. Take out second one, just whittle them down

2073
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>this game. I've found that my favorite builds are ones

2074
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that are focused almost entirely around playing defense, so building

2075
01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>up my block to negate damage and then finding those

2076
01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:19.239
<v Speaker 1>little openings to counterattack, which has It's very unusual for me.

2077
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much an impatient player in these kind of games,

2078
01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I just want to kill people as quickly as possible,

2079
01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:25.159
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that it's actually getting me out of

2080
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 1>my comfort zone is really impressive.

2081
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, when you lose around because it's like the

2082
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:34.680
<v Speaker 4>first game, right, you lose it all and you have

2083
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:37.640
<v Speaker 4>to start over. Is that is there still like enough

2084
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:39.640
<v Speaker 4>rewards to get you to like want to play that

2085
01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:41.319
<v Speaker 4>second round and not feel two defeated.

2086
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's very much a one more turn game.

2087
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But you'll get an experience meter that once it fills up,

2088
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it'll go. You'll unlock a new epoch, which is like

2089
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>there it's shown like a timeline of lore, but you're

2090
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:57.399
<v Speaker 1>actually unlocking. You'll unlock one, you'll click on it, it'll

2091
01:33:57.399 --> 01:33:59.039
<v Speaker 1>say it'll give you a little bit of lore bit

2092
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and then will actually lead to tangible unlocks, whether it's

2093
01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:05.119
<v Speaker 1>a new character. Right now, in early access, they're only five.

2094
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I have three of them, Ironclad, the Silence, and I

2095
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>cannot remember if the Regent was in the first game,

2096
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>so the triangular head guy in the chair he might

2097
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>have been. But you're also unlocking like new relics, which

2098
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 1>are the items that are not you know, they're character agnostic.

2099
01:34:22.119 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>They're just things you can equip that will have these

2100
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>wide ranging effects. Like one will say, like, okay, beat

2101
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:33.479
<v Speaker 1>five elite enemies and this sword will evolve into something crazy.

2102
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I still have not evolved it. Or hey, you could

2103
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>take this egg. It's not gonna do shit until you

2104
01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>get to a rest campfire, and then hatchet and then

2105
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>who knows what it's going to be, And then all

2106
01:34:43.239 --> 01:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I did hatch it, and I had

2107
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:48.159
<v Speaker 1>a fucking really powerful bird minion at my side. So

2108
01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there was a single run, even the

2109
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:53.439
<v Speaker 1>runs where I really just got fucked up early on

2110
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>in like the fifth node and I only filled up

2111
01:34:56.640 --> 01:35:00.199
<v Speaker 1>the experience meter or I only leveled up like a

2112
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>fifth of the way there. Even then, there are enough

2113
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:07.159
<v Speaker 1>cards that it showed me that I didn't choose for

2114
01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>my deck that I'm still so curious about the character

2115
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I could build with those that I'm ready to jump

2116
01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>into a new run. Ever I play every time I play,

2117
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:19.119
<v Speaker 1>it's very very sticky game, Like I like it quite

2118
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit.

2119
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you know when it's coming out? Because I don't

2120
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>do early access, so like do you know?

2121
01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I don't either. I read a

2122
01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:32.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of people saying if they didn't know as early access, they.

2123
01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I hear that all the time. But it's like I

2124
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>have always been happy when I've waited, and I have

2125
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>been burned when I've gone into early access, and so

2126
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I've just adopted a full on like I just don't

2127
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.199
<v Speaker 2>do early ACSS. Like I understand its value, I understand

2128
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>why it's enticing to go in early and stuff like that,

2129
01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>but like just personally, like I I'm very excited about

2130
01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:53.319
<v Speaker 2>this game, but I'm just not touching it.

2131
01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2132
01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Done.

2133
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I had, like, speaking anecdotally, I said the same thing.

2134
01:35:57.720 --> 01:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, people, the people, the same people that

2135
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>were telling me, the same people that held out on

2136
01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Hades two with me, are the people who recommended this

2137
01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:08.039
<v Speaker 1>game to me, Which is why I was like, which

2138
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>is why I was like, all right, I'll go in,

2139
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>And I think the thing here is I could play

2140
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>for it feels like I could play it for thirty

2141
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>hours and get my money's worth out of it and

2142
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like I saw what this version has to see

2143
01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>or no, sorry, let me rephrase that. I feel like

2144
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I could play for thirty hours and see a lot

2145
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:30.479
<v Speaker 1>of this game, but I still think there'll be so

2146
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>much left in this version that I haven't seen that

2147
01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter that, like the full launch content is

2148
01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>not here, because I don't know how I would still

2149
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>see all the content that's in there right now, I see,

2150
01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yeah, no, it's your prerogative. And like

2151
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty dead set on holding out for full launch,

2152
01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>but I genuinely shaved yet. Yeah, and I'm kind of

2153
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>glad I did because I'm I'm like, I'm stuck on

2154
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>this game. It's it's great. It I like I said,

2155
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I played eight hour like Monster Trained two. I talked

2156
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to Bonk a lot about that game. That was one

2157
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite games last year, Like the different permutations

2158
01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of each character I've already built in just eight hours.

2159
01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And there's you know, like Bolatro, Monster Trained two, Slay

2160
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the Spire one. In these games, you see those cards

2161
01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that you never take, and you're like, that's not gonna

2162
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>fit my play style. It never will. I'm not that

2163
01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of player in this game. Every card I don't

2164
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>take is just enticing enough that I'm like, oh, I'm

2165
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of theory crafting. When I'm like in the shower

2166
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>or leaving to go out to get lunch or something

2167
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh shit, if I combine that with this

2168
01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>or like mugenics, I was like, oh fuck, I could

2169
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:45.199
<v Speaker 1>make my character unstoppable if I did the if I

2170
01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:48.199
<v Speaker 1>got these cards. Obviously rang is involved with the deck

2171
01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>aspect makes it random, but like, my favorite so far

2172
01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:59.319
<v Speaker 1>is I have one card. There's certain cards and upgrades

2173
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you could do with the silence that character I really

2174
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like where it's like, Okay, you get it. There's a

2175
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>card trait called Innate. It just means you start every

2176
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>single combat encounter with that card in your hand, no

2177
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:16.079
<v Speaker 1>matter what. I also got a relic that makes all

2178
01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Innate cards cost zero energy, so you literally play them

2179
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>for free. I also got another I also got a

2180
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>card that I would allow Innate cards to deal double damage.

2181
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:33.720
<v Speaker 1>The problem with that card is it's not Innate, so

2182
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I won't automatically get it. However, I got to a

2183
01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>random encounter where it's just like, oh, you could do

2184
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>this or this or this, and I was like, oh shit,

2185
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you could choose a card to grant innate. It's like,

2186
01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm killing most enemies in the first

2187
01:38:49.359 --> 01:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>hand now. Of course, then I get to the boss,

2188
01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, you can only play one card per turn,

2189
01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like I could throw all eight free

2190
01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>cards at them and do one hundred and eighty damage,

2191
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:01.399
<v Speaker 1>so stuff like that. It's it's just the game is

2192
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:05.439
<v Speaker 1>so good already, even in early access, of making it

2193
01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:10.399
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's this iceberg below the surface of this

2194
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>character that I really don't even understand yet. And yeah

2195
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't say yet whether I like it

2196
01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>as much as like Manzara Train two is probably my

2197
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.119
<v Speaker 1>favorite game of that and look, outside of Balatro, I mean,

2198
01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:23.399
<v Speaker 1>we've said enough about Pilatro on this show, and everybody

2199
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:26.439
<v Speaker 1>else has everywhere that game is a masterpiece. But like

2200
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this game is, I'm already I'm already digging this game

2201
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:35.399
<v Speaker 1>in in that vein. I like it a lot. But yeah,

2202
01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:37.119
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna hold out, keep holding out because I

2203
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>don't have to add more characters, they'll I'm sure there'll

2204
01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:40.439
<v Speaker 1>be more cards.

2205
01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure I'm gonna be over the moon about

2206
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it when I play it. But it's like I do

2207
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>almost like that feeling of like when it's out out

2208
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and I started being like it's all here, and yeah, yeah,

2209
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

2210
01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>You are a very different player type than me where

2211
01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like, once you know you have everything,

2212
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you like to get everything and try everything as much

2213
01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:07.399
<v Speaker 1>as possible. I think I burn out a bit before

2214
01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that point. So maybe that's also why I don't mind

2215
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:13.159
<v Speaker 1>playing this right now. But sure, Yeah, I haven't even

2216
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>tried the third character I haven't locked, which is the Regent. Yeah.

2217
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Just the excellent game reminded me of Hades two in

2218
01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:23.199
<v Speaker 1>the way that there are no major innovations, at least

2219
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that I'm aware of. I don't remember the first game

2220
01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that much. I remember loving it, but so many of

2221
01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:30.159
<v Speaker 1>these games have kind of come and gone since then

2222
01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's far my memory. It just feels like a

2223
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>refinement on every level and in all the minutia and

2224
01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the details, and it's really well made game. Good job

2225
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to them.

2226
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:47.279
<v Speaker 4>Good job speaking of everybody says this game is supposed

2227
01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 4>to be perfect.

2228
01:40:48.119 --> 01:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great, speaking of good jobs, Dan. Many shoot adventures.

2229
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh, just real short. I know I probably talked about

2230
01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>this familiar. Yeah it's the one where Zelda Geometry War.

2231
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2232
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I talked about this.

2233
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:02.159
<v Speaker 1>You like this?

2234
01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah a while ago and it's on switch

2235
01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:08.279
<v Speaker 2>to now, so I'm playing it again. Just a reminder

2236
01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:11.399
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have a Steam deck or didn't play

2237
01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:14.279
<v Speaker 2>it back, then get it on switch to or it's

2238
01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:18.439
<v Speaker 2>on switch one. Actually, just it's a breezy fun time.

2239
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>It is just a video game boiled down to the

2240
01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>most video game elements, immediately having fun with it. I yeah,

2241
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it's rare that. I I am very excited to play

2242
01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>three game a second time. I was so ready to

2243
01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>do this again as soon as it came out.

2244
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:32.760
<v Speaker 4>How much is it on the switch to because it's

2245
01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:35.880
<v Speaker 4>it's like fifteen bucks on Steam Like, this is a

2246
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:36.359
<v Speaker 4>good price.

2247
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I assume it's equal across the board.

2248
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it'd be weird

2249
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>for them. Three hundred dollars, it's worth it.

2250
01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your sister paid forty five dollars to play this.

2251
01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:51.159
<v Speaker 2>It's got six many chips to play Mini shoot Adventures. No,

2252
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:54.359
<v Speaker 2>it's it's tremendous. It's I feel like, I say, Zelda

2253
01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>plus Geometry Wars like top down Zelda like linked to

2254
01:41:56.960 --> 01:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the past original Zelda plus Geometry Wars. If you hear

2255
01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that and it activates your brain the way it does mine,

2256
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>you will not be disappointed. It is a tremendous game.

2257
01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:06.800
<v Speaker 4>So it's a very It's a very fun game, and

2258
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:09.680
<v Speaker 4>I remember playing it around the same time as you

2259
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:12.159
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago, and I really I also

2260
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:13.000
<v Speaker 4>really liked it.

2261
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Much like a Metroid.

2262
01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:16.479
<v Speaker 4>You can get lost and be like, I don't know

2263
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:18.720
<v Speaker 4>where I'm supposed to go, but you always end up

2264
01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:21.119
<v Speaker 4>figuring it out and there's really good upgrades and stuff.

2265
01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Like that too.

2266
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad it's cool that it's on switch yep.

2267
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Check it out.

2268
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And what about WWE two six?

2269
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:35.159
<v Speaker 2>No bad, It's no like it's the same serviceable at

2270
01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:39.479
<v Speaker 2>best wrestling engine that it's been since twenty two. It's

2271
01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:42.199
<v Speaker 2>just it is just a full blown fucking casino now.

2272
01:42:42.520 --> 01:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>It is insane. I said it's on gime Bomb, But

2273
01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, as someone who doesn't play these sports games

2274
01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>or FIFA or NBA two K, this whole idea of

2275
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:55.039
<v Speaker 2>these billion micro transaction Ultimate Team card pack things is

2276
01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>so alien and gross to me that, like, I just

2277
01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:00.439
<v Speaker 2>go into a wrestling video game and I just want

2278
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:02.079
<v Speaker 2>to pick my wrestlers and make them fight each other,

2279
01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:04.439
<v Speaker 2>pick a match type, pick my wrestlers, and to be

2280
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>inundated with five thousand Get your virtual currencies, get your

2281
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:09.720
<v Speaker 2>triple A ring side passed, get this, and then get

2282
01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:11.359
<v Speaker 2>this super team and then you get unlocked the border

2283
01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:12.760
<v Speaker 2>for your play ricon and then you can do this

2284
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>near my faction. And it is so fucking shitty to me.

2285
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, we got over four hundred wrestlers. I'm like, oh, great,

2286
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I can put together all these dream matches and stuff. Nope,

2287
01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:24.640
<v Speaker 2>every fucking wrestler you go through. I mean, it's got

2288
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like a base amount of like the current superstars, but like, oh,

2289
01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I want to pick Kevin ash Or I want to

2290
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:31.159
<v Speaker 2>pick this guy from you know, the add Tude era

2291
01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. He's like, well, you need to get this

2292
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>guy in my rise by getting the super duper Pass,

2293
01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and you need It's just it is insane, the level

2294
01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of just greedy casino card pack bullshit. It is fucking awful.

2295
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I really really hate it. And even if the game

2296
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.720
<v Speaker 2>was very, very good, this shit is so aggressive it

2297
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>would turn me off. But the game itself is middling

2298
01:43:54.680 --> 01:43:58.800
<v Speaker 2>at best, and it's just I have no fucking time

2299
01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>for this horseshit. I you love wrestling, I love video games.

2300
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>This makes me hate both of them.

2301
01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Me my cash grab every time, I like, I think

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01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I have a good understanding and grasp on the video

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01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>game industry. I'll see that like FIFA Ultimate before they

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01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>drop the name made seven billion dollars in twenty twenty two,

2305
01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I don't understand people's habits at all.

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01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Who is playing this? And obviously I know FIFA's big

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01:44:25.239 --> 01:44:27.039
<v Speaker 1>on a it was big on a level that like

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01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:28.399
<v Speaker 1>we we can't confirm.

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01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:30.600
<v Speaker 2>But the NBA two K like you know, like that's

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01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>more like people watch basketball in this country and like

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01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure those people are all over this country and

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01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:37.119
<v Speaker 2>spending a lounch of money on this and I don't

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01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>know who these people are. It seems it's it's just

2314
01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>a few whales that are keeping this thing up and

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01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:41.479
<v Speaker 2>making billions.

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01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:45.479
<v Speaker 4>The NFL like Coach simulator games that are like exploding

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01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:50.239
<v Speaker 4>people love sports really, my god, Coach sims are huge.

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01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean I'm surprised that many people like playing

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01:44:53.359 --> 01:44:56.399
<v Speaker 1>sports games. I'm surprised there's that many people spending money

2321
01:44:56.439 --> 01:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and Ultimate Team on these cards that generates seven billion

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01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars in a year.

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01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:02.199
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking nuts.

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01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

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01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, what does it seem like? I like

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01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:07.720
<v Speaker 2>every ad I see now is for some gambling thing now,

2327
01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, this feels like gambling. It's like shit,

2328
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:12.079
<v Speaker 2>apparently gambling is real popular these days.

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01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh god, I fucking hate it. It's ruining the

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01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.079
<v Speaker 1>viewing experience for my State Warriors.

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01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Gambling has been in games for a really long time,

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01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:24.520
<v Speaker 4>and it's just one of those like edge cases where

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01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:27.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't really have a problem with loot boxes and

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01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:27.880
<v Speaker 4>things like that.

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01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I just think that there is a level.

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01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Of greed that we are rewarding game companies when they

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01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:35.159
<v Speaker 4>are making this amount of money where we're like, I

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01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:37.680
<v Speaker 4>think we're learning the wrong lessons here.

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01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, don't No, I don't either, But Mary, what

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01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:46.159
<v Speaker 1>creature kitchen?

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01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Creature kitchen?

2342
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Old timing Like it wasn't my head.

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01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:53.920
<v Speaker 3>It kind of has a weird vibe.

2344
01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:56.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm really I'm trying to describe it, but it's a strange,

2345
01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:01.319
<v Speaker 4>strange game surreal I'm gonna say it's like a sci

2346
01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:07.279
<v Speaker 4>fi otherworldly universe game where you go to a cabin.

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01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:08.479
<v Speaker 3>In the middle of the night, in the middle of

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01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:09.079
<v Speaker 3>the woods.

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01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:13.079
<v Speaker 4>It's dark, but it's not too creepy vibe.

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01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:16.720
<v Speaker 2>It's always making me think of mouth washing a little

2351
01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>bit just like that weird kind of low poly vibe.

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01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:22.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, es, what was the what was the game

2353
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Fred is watching?

2354
01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Or Fred?

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01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, like last year he's looking No, no, no, no, sorry,

2356
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>he's looking as he's looking in the windhill neighbor. Was

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01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that it? No, he was looking at Mary you talked

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01:46:34.119 --> 01:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>about look outside.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's what its okay, okay, yeah, I'm with you.

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01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I I think that this game is is cozier than

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01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:43.720
<v Speaker 3>it looks on the onset.

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01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:45.279
<v Speaker 4>You might be like, oh, is this like a creepy

2363
01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:47.920
<v Speaker 4>game with ghosts and like there are like weird ethereal

2364
01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:50.039
<v Speaker 4>creatures out there, but check this.

2365
01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.239
<v Speaker 3>You need to take a photo of them on a polaroid.

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01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:55.560
<v Speaker 4>If you can successfully get a photo of them, your

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01:46:55.720 --> 01:46:58.960
<v Speaker 4>secret book will tell you the foods.

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01:46:58.600 --> 01:46:59.119
<v Speaker 2>That they like.

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01:46:59.279 --> 01:47:00.760
<v Speaker 3>And then you go to your kitchen.

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01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:04.720
<v Speaker 4>You make foods with uh, the stuff that's in your pantry,

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01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:08.000
<v Speaker 4>and you find more food as the game goes on.

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01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:09.880
<v Speaker 4>But you make these like you'll make a dish like

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01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:13.000
<v Speaker 4>macaroni and cheese or a cheese sandwich, simple ones.

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01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:15.199
<v Speaker 3>At first, you give them to the creatures.

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01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:17.640
<v Speaker 4>They'll give you a key to unlock new pantry doors

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01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:19.119
<v Speaker 4>to give you more ingredients so.

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01:47:19.079 --> 01:47:21.680
<v Speaker 3>You can find more animals and make more food for them.

2378
01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.279
<v Speaker 3>And that's the game. You guys.

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01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:27.479
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like what was a clover pit, but instead

2380
01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:29.479
<v Speaker 2>of like playing a slot machine so you don't die,

2381
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like you're just a bunch of raccoons.

2382
01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Keep bringing up really scary games.

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01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:38.159
<v Speaker 4>This game is so it's not scary, but it has

2384
01:47:38.399 --> 01:47:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I did get I actually times post.

2385
01:47:44.039 --> 01:47:46.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a I consider this a very wholesome game.

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01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:51.840
<v Speaker 4>You'll you'll run across a ghost by the rat zone.

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01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:55.479
<v Speaker 3>The rat zone in this game, they're killing.

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01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Look, it's a compelling looking game that I want to

2389
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>play it.

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01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:04.720
<v Speaker 3>It's very cute, you guys.

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01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I was.

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01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:09.159
<v Speaker 4>I was surprised at what a delightful experience.

2393
01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you guys are doing this.

2394
01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>No, no, not because your records someone else for a while, Mike,

2395
01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>was it you that told me about Creature Kitchen?

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01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna get.

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01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>It because I was telling you, like how I say

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01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>creature kitchen?

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01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, try it out?

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01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Try it out. Oh yeah, I promise. It's cozy. It's

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01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>it's cozy, creepy. There's a there's a there's a cute

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01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>raccoon and you could just sit with your friends and

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01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:39.439
<v Speaker 1>take it all in.

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01:48:40.319 --> 01:48:41.840
<v Speaker 2>That's that is what I.

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01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Was going to say.

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01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, this looks really good. Thank you for the record

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01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>for both of you.

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01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:50.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it's I think it's a delightful game.

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01:48:50.960 --> 01:48:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I was surprised.

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01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:53.479
<v Speaker 4>And you can beat it in about a night, so

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01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:56.399
<v Speaker 4>like again, I I think you could beat this in

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01:48:56.520 --> 01:48:58.680
<v Speaker 4>like five six hours.

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01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:00.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, depending on how good, how how good

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01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:01.159
<v Speaker 3>at games you are.

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01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:05.880
<v Speaker 4>And also the kitchen stuff has chopping, it has like blending.

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01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:10.560
<v Speaker 4>It's a funky kitchen. It's a magical kitchen. So if

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01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:14.079
<v Speaker 4>you're making like, I don't know, a guacamole, for example,

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01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:18.880
<v Speaker 4>you'll put like an avocado and mix it with salt

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01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:20.479
<v Speaker 4>in a mixer and that makes squawk.

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01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Obviously there's more to it, but that's enough for the game.

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01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:28.279
<v Speaker 4>And then if you put that in the oven with nachos,

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01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:31.319
<v Speaker 4>it makes nachos. So it's like it bends the rules

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01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:33.239
<v Speaker 4>of cooking. You don't actually have to like be a

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01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:36.319
<v Speaker 4>good kitchen person to figure this out, but it's just

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01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:38.279
<v Speaker 4>enough that makes it exciting to make a dish.

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01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's good on steam Deck, Yes it is. Okay, I'm in.

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01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:45.279
<v Speaker 3>I liked it. I'm glad.

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01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that you guys are interested in it. I

2429
01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:49.439
<v Speaker 4>felt like this was a hidden to me. I felt

2430
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:51.039
<v Speaker 4>like this was a hidden gem. I hadn't heard too

2431
01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:54.600
<v Speaker 4>many people talk about this, but I really like it.

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01:49:54.680 --> 01:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Only fucking and thirty seven of them give me positive reviews.

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01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would say, it's no uh, marathon or

2434
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:07.079
<v Speaker 4>whatever you guys are talking about what.

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01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna like this more than marathon.

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01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to play this other fucking Okay, in

2437
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the video on Steam, the way, the fucking the crow

2438
01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:21.359
<v Speaker 1>was flying toward the front porch, toward like the player

2439
01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and to land, he just like crashed on his chest

2440
01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and then got up as if he was fine.

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01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's like chopping carrots mini games, and this is

2442
01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:32.199
<v Speaker 2>some Maria ware ship.

2443
01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.159
<v Speaker 4>I like, you have to flip the pan if you so,

2444
01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:38.119
<v Speaker 4>when you cook like an egg, you have to successfully

2445
01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:40.880
<v Speaker 4>flip the pan to cook the egg, and if you don't,

2446
01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:42.279
<v Speaker 4>you burn it, then you have to throw it out

2447
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:43.399
<v Speaker 4>and get a new egg.

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01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I saw you playing this on stream. I saw the

2449
01:50:46.079 --> 01:50:48.159
<v Speaker 1>egg thing, and you completely fucked it up.

2450
01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:52.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually not great at cooking eggs and flipping them

2451
01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:54.159
<v Speaker 4>in this game, and it was a bit frustrating, but

2452
01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I figured it out over time.

2453
01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you make both puzzles.

2454
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.199
<v Speaker 3>You. Oh, there's little old puzzles throughout.

2455
01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:03.840
<v Speaker 4>You'll be like, what's this plot of grand ground And

2456
01:51:03.880 --> 01:51:06.680
<v Speaker 4>it looks like maybe I might need to like do

2457
01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:10.000
<v Speaker 4>some planting, Like they keep giving you little there's little

2458
01:51:10.039 --> 01:51:12.560
<v Speaker 4>puzzles throughout. I only got stuck once. There was one

2459
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:15.039
<v Speaker 4>puzzle that I like, I got really stuck on, but

2460
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:17.079
<v Speaker 4>everything else I figured it out and I felt really

2461
01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:19.319
<v Speaker 4>smart when you when you do it. And yeah, there's

2462
01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:21.359
<v Speaker 4>like little ghosts and stuff, but they're not too creepy,

2463
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:22.840
<v Speaker 4>but they'll they might surprise you.

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01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>There's like a little like an underground network of pantries.

2465
01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:27.039
<v Speaker 1>It looks like.

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01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:32.560
<v Speaker 4>There's it's essentially an endless Barbarian basically, it's an endless

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01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:35.119
<v Speaker 4>sentry and there is a there is like a pantry

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01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:38.560
<v Speaker 4>being as well, like hopefully you can find them.

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01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a back rooms.

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01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:42.439
<v Speaker 3>There's secrets everywhere. It's it's cute.

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01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:45.279
<v Speaker 4>You'll see like the book contains a lot of secrets

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01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:47.960
<v Speaker 4>for you to know. Oh, I've never seen this creature

2473
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.319
<v Speaker 4>in person before, and yeah, I don't want to give

2474
01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:51.720
<v Speaker 4>it away because I very long game.

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01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I I'm in. I'm playing this, okay good.

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01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I think you guys will like it.

2477
01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of cozy games, Mary, you have don't spoil any

2478
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>thing because I have not played yet, but you finished Requiem.

2479
01:52:05.319 --> 01:52:06.439
<v Speaker 3>I will not spoil it.

2480
01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:09.359
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to let you both know because the

2481
01:52:09.439 --> 01:52:12.359
<v Speaker 4>last time we were here, Dan, you had beaten it

2482
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:15.079
<v Speaker 4>and reviewed it, and I had only played I want

2483
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:17.279
<v Speaker 4>to say, like nine hours of it. I have completed

2484
01:52:17.279 --> 01:52:20.560
<v Speaker 4>the game. I think it's phenomenal. It might be my

2485
01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:23.880
<v Speaker 4>favorite Resident Evil. I think it's I think it's just

2486
01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:27.720
<v Speaker 4>that damn good. I really don't have a lot of

2487
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:29.720
<v Speaker 4>issues with it. I will say the front half is

2488
01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:34.039
<v Speaker 4>just by far my favorite part, but I think the

2489
01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:36.319
<v Speaker 4>second half is funny, and there's like a real fun

2490
01:52:36.359 --> 01:52:40.560
<v Speaker 4>like motorcycle sequence where you like chasing people and there's a.

2491
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Lot of action.

2492
01:52:41.600 --> 01:52:43.760
<v Speaker 4>It has a lot of nods to earlier Resident Evils,

2493
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:46.319
<v Speaker 4>which I appreciate and respect, and I even think, like

2494
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:50.039
<v Speaker 4>the final boss fight was pretty fun. So I won't

2495
01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:51.359
<v Speaker 4>get into it, but I just want to let you

2496
01:52:51.399 --> 01:52:53.640
<v Speaker 4>guys know. I just I think it's fantastic and I

2497
01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:59.000
<v Speaker 4>can't wait. I can't wait to experience it again, which

2498
01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:01.560
<v Speaker 4>I know I will all play again, but yeah, very good,

2499
01:53:01.640 --> 01:53:01.960
<v Speaker 4>very good.

2500
01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:04.079
<v Speaker 2>It is such a fun one when you've played through it,

2501
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:06.039
<v Speaker 2>like it's incredible play through your first time, and then

2502
01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:08.439
<v Speaker 2>like to watch people knowing what's coming up, So like

2503
01:53:08.479 --> 01:53:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I've been watching Kyles stream and I've been went Boks

2504
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:12.000
<v Speaker 2>playing it, so I've been like, you know, if I'm

2505
01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:13.600
<v Speaker 2>walking up and I see she's playing, I'm sitting on

2506
01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the couch, I'm like, oh, I know it's coming up

2507
01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.840
<v Speaker 2>here early act and we talked about a ton me

2508
01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and her, and it's so cool that like every time

2509
01:53:21.239 --> 01:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>she feels like she's like just barely scraping by, it's

2510
01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:26.079
<v Speaker 2>like she has no health items, she has one bullet.

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01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:28.279
<v Speaker 2>There's three fucking zombies in that hallway. How the fuck

2512
01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>am I going to get through there? The game is

2513
01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:33.319
<v Speaker 2>so good at writing that line of always keeping as grace,

2514
01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.319
<v Speaker 2>specifically of like keeping like how the fuck am I

2515
01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:38.520
<v Speaker 2>supposed to do this? I'm fucking dead, and like yet

2516
01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you always are progressing and it's doing some voodoo in

2517
01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the background where it's like making it all work, and

2518
01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:46.560
<v Speaker 2>like whether it's like giving you more mo if you've

2519
01:53:46.560 --> 01:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>died a few times, or making that thing a little.

2520
01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're kind to you, but it's secret, secret.

2521
01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Not in your face at all, and it's like you

2522
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>will always progress. There's not a lot of like banging

2523
01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:58.319
<v Speaker 2>your head against the thing and I've died here ten

2524
01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:01.159
<v Speaker 2>times in a row, like it is pulling whatever strings

2525
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:04.079
<v Speaker 2>it's been doing in the background in a very subtle way.

2526
01:54:04.119 --> 01:54:07.079
<v Speaker 2>That like the just the pacing, the difficulty it is,

2527
01:54:07.239 --> 01:54:09.199
<v Speaker 2>this is a masterful fucking game.

2528
01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:13.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the amount of detail as well that they've done,

2529
01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:14.600
<v Speaker 4>even with little things.

2530
01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:17.159
<v Speaker 3>If I guess I was learning, if you.

2531
01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:20.439
<v Speaker 4>Stay in the save room long enough, you unload your

2532
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:23.439
<v Speaker 4>weapon because you're not using it, and then if you

2533
01:54:23.560 --> 01:54:26.560
<v Speaker 4>leave the save room, you reload your weapon. And it's

2534
01:54:26.600 --> 01:54:30.239
<v Speaker 4>just a custom animation that they made for zero point

2535
01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:33.600
<v Speaker 4>zero one percent of the player base that would sit

2536
01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:35.399
<v Speaker 4>in the waiting room for that long.

2537
01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:38.399
<v Speaker 3>But to me, that's a good example of like these

2538
01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.000
<v Speaker 3>devs put a lot.

2539
01:54:39.720 --> 01:54:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Of energy into the behind the scenes, the animation styles,

2540
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:49.560
<v Speaker 4>the story. It's all very calculated. It's very plotted out.

2541
01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:51.920
<v Speaker 4>This like you said, this is a masterclass. This is

2542
01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:57.800
<v Speaker 4>a highly refined experience. They thought about everything and there's

2543
01:54:57.840 --> 01:55:00.399
<v Speaker 4>some really good throwbacks that I can't wait.

2544
01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>For you to experience.

2545
01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Mike. It's a it's a fantastic game.

2546
01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:06.079
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, really really happy with when I rolled credits

2547
01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:08.960
<v Speaker 4>and there's a couple of different credit sequences and you

2548
01:55:09.039 --> 01:55:10.880
<v Speaker 4>get this.

2549
01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Isn't a spoiler, but boy, the bad one. It's like,

2550
01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I think I got the bad ending. It's it's yeah,

2551
01:55:17.520 --> 01:55:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you did, It's insane. Well immediately it tells you. It's

2552
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:22.199
<v Speaker 2>like you can go back and try something else if

2553
01:55:22.199 --> 01:55:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you want to do.

2554
01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:25.000
<v Speaker 3>You want to try again, it's up to you. And

2555
01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:28.560
<v Speaker 3>it's just like I think I do. I'm amazed to

2556
01:55:28.600 --> 01:55:30.000
<v Speaker 3>even let you roll credits. I'm surprised.

2557
01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:32.560
<v Speaker 4>It's not like you lose, but it like literally lets

2558
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:33.279
<v Speaker 4>you roll credits.

2559
01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of nuts.

2560
01:55:34.279 --> 01:55:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but anyway, I can't wait to play it. I'm

2561
01:55:37.159 --> 01:55:40.720
<v Speaker 1>holding off. I'll play at some point soon ish maybe

2562
01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:41.159
<v Speaker 1>not yep.

2563
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:44.159
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a lot on our plates, especially with

2564
01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:48.359
<v Speaker 4>all the travel, but UH definitely can't wait for for

2565
01:55:48.960 --> 01:55:49.520
<v Speaker 4>uh you.

2566
01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:51.720
<v Speaker 3>To experience it and for us to talk about it.

2567
01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Same do you want to talk about emails?

2568
01:55:54.319 --> 01:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

2569
01:55:57.239 --> 01:55:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Alright. As a reminder, you can run through Firescape cast

2570
01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at gmail for questions to be read on the show.

2571
01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Got a bunch of good ones since the last episode,

2572
01:56:04.399 --> 01:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>thank you. In fact, this email section is quite the rollercoaster,

2573
01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:10.079
<v Speaker 1>so let's dive right in.

2574
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Mary.

2575
01:56:10.760 --> 01:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you to read this first one? This? Yeah?

2576
01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:16.560
<v Speaker 2>All right?

2577
01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:17.279
<v Speaker 3>How dare you?

2578
01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Hey?

2579
01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Fucker's Day one listener, big fan of y'all. Deal breaker

2580
01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:30.920
<v Speaker 4>scenario if you're with the perfect partner and every way imaginable,

2581
01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:34.479
<v Speaker 4>but they have to have sex with you every single

2582
01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:38.439
<v Speaker 4>day and they have to constantly talk like Scooby Doo

2583
01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:40.840
<v Speaker 4>during it, and you have to go along with it.

2584
01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Do you think you.

2585
01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Would survive asking for a friend? Allie from Toronto ps.

2586
01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:48.760
<v Speaker 4>When you finish, they yell rotro.

2587
01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd survive surviving certainly request that we're all fantasy,

2588
01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:02.039
<v Speaker 2>we're all happily. I trothed? Is that the word? So

2589
01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to a picture before that. Okay, let's say

2590
01:57:05.479 --> 01:57:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm eighteen, I'm looking to meet someone. I don't

2591
01:57:10.119 --> 01:57:12.359
<v Speaker 2>have a girlfriend or anything, and this is the situation.

2592
01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Is it? It's just like a thing I'm thinking way

2593
01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:20.279
<v Speaker 2>back to when I'm a young man looking to meet

2594
01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:22.199
<v Speaker 2>someone and things like that. You know, I get a

2595
01:57:22.239 --> 01:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and all that I'm trying to think, is this like,

2596
01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>are we looking for marriage material or are we just

2597
01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:29.079
<v Speaker 2>doing Is this just a xenion atop situation?

2598
01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? Is it? What? What do you mean? Like?

2599
01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Are you looking for marrying stuff? Or is it just

2600
01:57:35.399 --> 01:57:37.760
<v Speaker 2>like sheer lost Genie onotop.

2601
01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:40.039
<v Speaker 4>You're basically saying that you could do it for a

2602
01:57:40.079 --> 01:57:42.720
<v Speaker 4>certain period of time, but you probably wouldn't want to

2603
01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:45.600
<v Speaker 4>marry this individual. But if you were to date this person,

2604
01:57:45.680 --> 01:57:47.319
<v Speaker 4>you could bang them every day.

2605
01:57:47.439 --> 01:57:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but even if everything was perfect and it

2606
01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:50.880
<v Speaker 2>was a marriage and be with them every day thing.

2607
01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the worst faith.

2608
01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that everything would be perfect if they're

2609
01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:58.640
<v Speaker 1>speaking like a cartoon mystery solving dog every time we

2610
01:57:58.680 --> 01:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>have sex every day?

2611
01:57:59.680 --> 01:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it, but it's like, is that the

2612
01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:02.920
<v Speaker 2>most important thing?

2613
01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want it? No part of the ship,

2614
01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>damn kind I kind of want it. Uh yeah, if

2615
01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm imparting this on my wife, it's pretty funny,

2616
01:58:21.239 --> 01:58:25.239
<v Speaker 1>but I yeah, it would be odd if she saidt

2617
01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>row every time not but not a deal breaker.

2618
01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:31.319
<v Speaker 4>I would say, what if like when you like, whip

2619
01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:33.600
<v Speaker 4>it out and she's like rocks.

2620
01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:37.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like I could come back to your school, Sapa.

2621
01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:40.199
<v Speaker 2>None of us is setting the mood I want in there.

2622
01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:44.880
<v Speaker 4>No, no, yeah, you have to like separate your mind

2623
01:58:44.960 --> 01:58:47.800
<v Speaker 4>into two different pieces. It reminds me of like that

2624
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:52.319
<v Speaker 4>scene from Scary Movie where there's like a gross, scary

2625
01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:55.159
<v Speaker 4>monster that comes out from the shadows, but she's got

2626
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:57.279
<v Speaker 4>a banging body, and then like it just shows him

2627
01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:59.640
<v Speaker 4>a scene later having sex with her and he just

2628
01:58:59.640 --> 01:59:01.119
<v Speaker 4>puts a on her head, like.

2629
01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Sure, sure, don't you think you just put some headphones in?

2630
01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me I need to dissociate during sex.

2631
01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Or like cover up that one component ballgag.

2632
01:59:12.680 --> 01:59:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the spirit. I think that's against the spirit.

2633
01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it needs I don't have.

2634
01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:19.399
<v Speaker 3>To embrace that freaky shit.

2635
01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I can add my own freaky shit and beat their

2636
01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:22.840
<v Speaker 4>freaky shit to the punch.

2637
01:59:23.039 --> 01:59:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Now you're getting Scooby Doo whispers in your ear, you know,

2638
01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like these are the sweet nothlings here?

2639
01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Which movie was it? It's a scary movie, he said.

2640
01:59:31.479 --> 01:59:33.079
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the first one. Do you know what

2641
01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about?

2642
01:59:33.800 --> 01:59:36.159
<v Speaker 2>It's ionic seeing that movie back when I came out

2643
01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and I don't remember this, but I completely believe that

2644
01:59:39.039 --> 01:59:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like the most scary movie joke.

2645
01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:43.479
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's an iconic like sequence.

2646
01:59:43.520 --> 01:59:47.199
<v Speaker 4>He's it's the I think it's yeah, one of the ways,

2647
01:59:47.239 --> 01:59:52.319
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, it's a creepy ghosty monster. And her

2648
01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:55.239
<v Speaker 4>face she's got a tongue that's really long and fucked up,

2649
01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:58.560
<v Speaker 4>but her body is incredible, and.

2650
01:59:58.520 --> 02:00:01.880
<v Speaker 3>When he sees it, he's like and like, yeah, I think.

2651
02:00:01.920 --> 02:00:04.640
<v Speaker 4>A couple scenes later they're doing it and he just

2652
02:00:04.640 --> 02:00:05.680
<v Speaker 4>put a bag over her head.

2653
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Like I think you could.

2654
02:00:07.119 --> 02:00:11.880
<v Speaker 4>I could see myself wearing headphones and dealing with a

2655
02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:16.439
<v Speaker 4>really great partner in life and love and being like

2656
02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:18.920
<v Speaker 4>I can handle all of this, but I am going

2657
02:00:18.960 --> 02:00:20.359
<v Speaker 4>to put in my headphones.

2658
02:00:20.359 --> 02:00:21.600
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think that would hurt the feelings.

2659
02:00:22.680 --> 02:00:26.840
<v Speaker 3>It's just like they have to compromise. That's marriage, I guess.

2660
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And they're weird and like I would, I would

2661
02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:34.560
<v Speaker 4>openly say I love you very much and like let's

2662
02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.439
<v Speaker 4>get it on. Uh now it's time for the headphones

2663
02:00:37.439 --> 02:00:38.079
<v Speaker 4>and your ballgag.

2664
02:00:38.159 --> 02:00:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's none of that Scooby Doo shit.

2665
02:00:39.840 --> 02:00:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they can do it.

2666
02:00:41.039 --> 02:00:42.479
<v Speaker 4>They can try, but they have to get past the

2667
02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:46.640
<v Speaker 4>ballgag and my noise proof headphones and you know all

2668
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:48.680
<v Speaker 4>the other stuff I have going on in my ears.

2669
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Good luck, it's a weird situation going on in there.

2670
02:00:52.720 --> 02:00:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, I would embrace it in that sense, like I

2671
02:00:54.840 --> 02:00:55.960
<v Speaker 4>would accept them.

2672
02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:58.279
<v Speaker 2>But I would Yeah, deal breaker.

2673
02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:00.920
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think it's a deal breaker. I think

2674
02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:04.560
<v Speaker 4>there's like worse things that you could experience. There's a

2675
02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:07.319
<v Speaker 4>lot of real miserable people out there.

2676
02:01:07.279 --> 02:01:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Lack of common interests, you know, different values, and yeah, definitely.

2677
02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're just like a meanie, like a person who's

2678
02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:18.840
<v Speaker 4>not nice, or like that person alcoholic or something like that,

2679
02:01:18.920 --> 02:01:20.680
<v Speaker 4>saying row when you come.

2680
02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:22.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like I can work around.

2681
02:01:22.720 --> 02:01:23.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a quirk. It's a quirk.

2682
02:01:24.399 --> 02:01:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Reminds me fine.

2683
02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I love them. I love you, baby.

2684
02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>There's the fucking Jackie Gleason having sex with Scooby Doo.

2685
02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember in college. I'm not gonna say which year

2686
02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:39.199
<v Speaker 1>because that would out them. One of my not out them,

2687
02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:46.039
<v Speaker 1>but one of my roommates we overheard him with a

2688
02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:50.920
<v Speaker 1>woman and we discovered that when it's about to happen,

2689
02:01:51.199 --> 02:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>what he says is here it comes. That's his, that's his, Like, yeah,

2690
02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that's now.

2691
02:01:58.199 --> 02:01:59.199
<v Speaker 3>That's a deal breaker.

2692
02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Is you're trying to funny or is that just what

2693
02:02:01.439 --> 02:02:01.720
<v Speaker 2>is like?

2694
02:02:01.920 --> 02:02:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't you know?

2695
02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Lizard Brain says at the time.

2696
02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:05.479
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know we had gotten home and we heard

2697
02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:06.279
<v Speaker 1>him in the room.

2698
02:02:06.479 --> 02:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>It's shoot, but it's kind of in the same discussion

2699
02:02:12.079 --> 02:02:12.720
<v Speaker 2>here it.

2700
02:02:14.439 --> 02:02:16.479
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, thank you Ali shut. Do you want

2701
02:02:16.479 --> 02:02:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to read this one from cold stare?

2702
02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm sure we've all seen something not hit our

2703
02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:25.279
<v Speaker 2>expectations or fail, and you ask yourself how those in

2704
02:02:25.359 --> 02:02:28.079
<v Speaker 2>charge could fuck up that badly? Obviously you knew better,

2705
02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and if only those people in charge had access to

2706
02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge you hold in your head, it would be

2707
02:02:32.640 --> 02:02:36.600
<v Speaker 2>so simple. Are there any media properties, whether movies, music,

2708
02:02:36.720 --> 02:02:39.520
<v Speaker 2>or games that you think could improve if you were

2709
02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:46.920
<v Speaker 2>put in charge? Cheers? K hold star I think Twisted

2710
02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Metal and I think Starfox are two series that I

2711
02:02:51.359 --> 02:02:54.359
<v Speaker 2>deeply loved at a certain time, actually kind of around

2712
02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the same period of the mid to late nineties and

2713
02:02:56.359 --> 02:03:00.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe early two thousands that both lost their way going

2714
02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:05.199
<v Speaker 2>past the first couple entries. And I think I I

2715
02:03:05.279 --> 02:03:06.640
<v Speaker 2>think I have a good idea of like what made

2716
02:03:06.680 --> 02:03:08.960
<v Speaker 2>those early games work and what made the later ones

2717
02:03:09.000 --> 02:03:10.760
<v Speaker 2>not work? And I think there's just some very basic

2718
02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:13.319
<v Speaker 2>things that like, if I could be like a creative director,

2719
02:03:13.359 --> 02:03:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I could make those better.

2720
02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:18.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, I have a bit of a hubrist to me,

2721
02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:21.359
<v Speaker 4>and I feel I love those I think that I

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02:03:21.439 --> 02:03:23.920
<v Speaker 4>believe you. I actually like, can we just all pretend

2723
02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:27.079
<v Speaker 4>that we have like an actual mind for this and

2724
02:03:27.159 --> 02:03:29.159
<v Speaker 4>could do it? Like, I'm not a designer, I'm not

2725
02:03:29.199 --> 02:03:34.680
<v Speaker 4>a director. I believe pretty strongly that I could fix

2726
02:03:35.279 --> 02:03:39.079
<v Speaker 4>the Silent Hill movies, the Resident Evil movies, and the

2727
02:03:39.920 --> 02:03:42.640
<v Speaker 4>movies they do need to be fixed.

2728
02:03:42.800 --> 02:03:45.840
<v Speaker 1>The Dune movies. You don't like, the Doom movies, Doom Oh,

2729
02:03:45.920 --> 02:03:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Doom Oh, It's like, Okay, I didn't even know you

2730
02:03:47.720 --> 02:03:49.119
<v Speaker 1>read the Doom books.

2731
02:03:49.479 --> 02:03:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Dune, Doom with the rock, Dune with their rock. I

2732
02:03:57.039 --> 02:04:01.000
<v Speaker 4>believe I can fix that. I I think that they

2733
02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:03.239
<v Speaker 4>just misunderstand the content. And I think there was a

2734
02:04:03.720 --> 02:04:07.239
<v Speaker 4>really annoying producer or like owner in the space that

2735
02:04:07.399 --> 02:04:11.199
<v Speaker 4>was like, I think I know what Resident Evil needs,

2736
02:04:11.319 --> 02:04:12.560
<v Speaker 4>and it needs.

2737
02:04:12.840 --> 02:04:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Like a hot lady with a bunch of guns.

2738
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:16.760
<v Speaker 4>And they weren't wrong, but I just think they like

2739
02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:20.039
<v Speaker 4>fucked up all of the other material and went the

2740
02:04:20.079 --> 02:04:23.520
<v Speaker 4>wrong direction with the Resident Evil franchise films, and I

2741
02:04:24.079 --> 02:04:27.079
<v Speaker 4>do think that we could make such a good movie

2742
02:04:27.680 --> 02:04:29.359
<v Speaker 4>with the original source material.

2743
02:04:29.800 --> 02:04:33.479
<v Speaker 1>The Barbarian director now m is and weapons director is

2744
02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:34.560
<v Speaker 1>doing the next Resident Evil.

2745
02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:37.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping.

2746
02:04:37.439 --> 02:04:41.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm hoping, and they called me, and I think that

2747
02:04:41.119 --> 02:04:44.399
<v Speaker 4>the two of us together, I'm gonna really knock it

2748
02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:45.159
<v Speaker 4>out of the park.

2749
02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm genuinely hoping. His interview he gave or he

2750
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:55.600
<v Speaker 1>was saying, like the thing that all that are other

2751
02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:58.520
<v Speaker 1>directors like forget, is that like it's survival horror. So

2752
02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I really want to like convey the horror of like

2753
02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:03.199
<v Speaker 1>being low on supplies but knowing you need to go

2754
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:05.399
<v Speaker 1>into a zombie infested basement and stuff like that. I'm like,

2755
02:05:05.399 --> 02:05:07.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, seems like he knows what he's doing, so

2756
02:05:07.600 --> 02:05:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like Keith feel yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2757
02:05:10.359 --> 02:05:10.960
<v Speaker 3>He's so smart.

2758
02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:13.680
<v Speaker 4>And he went back in time four thousand years put

2759
02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:17.119
<v Speaker 4>a go pro in Raccoon City so that you can

2760
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:19.319
<v Speaker 4>actually see everything time.

2761
02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:21.000
<v Speaker 1>That's smart.

2762
02:05:21.600 --> 02:05:23.199
<v Speaker 3>And he put the Twin Towers in it.

2763
02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Symbolism, Oh, symbolism, symbolism.

2764
02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I could uh do a better job of

2765
02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:37.680
<v Speaker 1>managing the Golden State Warriors, for sure, Mike, I don't

2766
02:05:37.680 --> 02:05:38.239
<v Speaker 1>know if I've.

2767
02:05:38.039 --> 02:05:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Ever heard of you talk about the Golden State Warriors,

2768
02:05:40.359 --> 02:05:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and this is the third separate time this loves them.

2769
02:05:44.479 --> 02:05:45.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I like the Warriors a lot. I just don't

2770
02:05:46.000 --> 02:05:47.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about them to you guys because I know it

2771
02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:50.479
<v Speaker 1>would fall on deaf ears. That's fair, okay, But I've

2772
02:05:50.479 --> 02:05:53.239
<v Speaker 1>also been thinking about we're going to see them on Sunday. Okay,

2773
02:05:53.560 --> 02:05:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that's probably why I'm going to see them. Finally, I

2774
02:05:56.000 --> 02:05:56.600
<v Speaker 1>can't believe.

2775
02:05:56.439 --> 02:05:58.039
<v Speaker 4>You didn't say like you feel like you could have

2776
02:05:58.079 --> 02:05:59.920
<v Speaker 4>made like a shabblie better than they do it.

2777
02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Then, who I don't know. I'm not gonna make a

2778
02:06:05.239 --> 02:06:08.279
<v Speaker 1>better than Raveno, that's fucking That's like saying I'm gonna

2779
02:06:08.279 --> 02:06:12.439
<v Speaker 1>make a fucking better strand game than Hideo Kojima.

2780
02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:16.720
<v Speaker 3>No, I could give him a run for his money.

2781
02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some, there's some. There's some chateaus there that

2782
02:06:19.359 --> 02:06:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I could some producers I could probably out Shablee for sure.

2783
02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I won't. I won't not say I could, but not

2784
02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like the top places.

2785
02:06:28.399 --> 02:06:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Not the top places.

2786
02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:31.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not.

2787
02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Gonna make a fucking Barollo better than Mascarello.

2788
02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Are these Golden State Warriors?

2789
02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Those talk still Okay, so lost, Yeah, we know

2790
02:06:44.680 --> 02:06:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you are.

2791
02:06:45.960 --> 02:06:53.560
<v Speaker 5>And here comes Mascarello passes to Mascarello and the three

2792
02:06:53.920 --> 02:06:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, Louis Roderer with a slam dunk.

2793
02:06:58.199 --> 02:06:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly what they sound like.

2794
02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that both click at the free throw line?

2795
02:07:07.640 --> 02:07:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Long yolo?

2796
02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm uh yeah, no I I I also think

2797
02:07:16.520 --> 02:07:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I could probably do a better job. What's like a

2798
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:21.600
<v Speaker 1>video game franchise that has lost its way? Zelda has

2799
02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:26.800
<v Speaker 1>lost its way better than the Breath of a Wild tears.

2800
02:07:26.720 --> 02:07:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Ko a couple of things.

2801
02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I could probably do a better job of

2802
02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:35.399
<v Speaker 1>what's it was like a TV show?

2803
02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Terminator lost its way big time, but

2804
02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:40.279
<v Speaker 2>like they're in a rough spot right now because it's

2805
02:07:40.359 --> 02:07:43.079
<v Speaker 2>like Terminator one and two, two very different vibes, but

2806
02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:45.640
<v Speaker 2>nailed both of them, every one of them passed, then

2807
02:07:46.439 --> 02:07:48.479
<v Speaker 2>just totally missed what made one and two great?

2808
02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:51.479
<v Speaker 3>But do you think you can solve it?

2809
02:07:51.600 --> 02:07:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what makes Terminator especially hard, is like

2810
02:07:53.960 --> 02:07:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you could go in there with the best of intentions

2811
02:07:56.039 --> 02:07:58.279
<v Speaker 2>and try to do just like kind of that horror

2812
02:07:58.359 --> 02:07:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of the first one of this thing that will not

2813
02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:02.319
<v Speaker 2>stop until you're dead, or kind of the big budget,

2814
02:08:02.359 --> 02:08:05.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, crazy Spectacle of two. But no matter how

2815
02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:07.119
<v Speaker 2>good of intentions you are and how much of a

2816
02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:09.079
<v Speaker 2>budget you have and how good of a writer you have,

2817
02:08:10.039 --> 02:08:14.199
<v Speaker 2>it's an Arnold problem because he is so iconic that

2818
02:08:14.319 --> 02:08:17.520
<v Speaker 2>like that is why once he was post Governor and everything,

2819
02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Genesis and Dark Fight and stuff, they

2820
02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:22.000
<v Speaker 2>kept bringing him back because it's like you talk about

2821
02:08:22.199 --> 02:08:26.199
<v Speaker 2>a actor who is tied to a role inextricably. I

2822
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:29.800
<v Speaker 2>don't think even the best written and directed remake or

2823
02:08:30.239 --> 02:08:33.359
<v Speaker 2>reimagining a Terminator would work if it's not Arnold.

2824
02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:34.439
<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't think so.

2825
02:08:34.520 --> 02:08:36.680
<v Speaker 4>You don't think there's any other actor that you could

2826
02:08:36.720 --> 02:08:40.760
<v Speaker 4>like be Like this new Terminator has a different look.

2827
02:08:40.840 --> 02:08:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess it could be done. I don't.

2828
02:08:43.159 --> 02:08:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I still think it's like Arnold's alive. I think maybe

2829
02:08:45.279 --> 02:08:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like twenty years from now, with like a new generation

2830
02:08:48.000 --> 02:08:50.439
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't really know about Arnold or anything, may need to.

2831
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Wait until he croaks. You just get a younger.

2832
02:08:52.680 --> 02:08:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Hotter would maybe be the Terminator.

2833
02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Now it happens to women, all.

2834
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Marty Supreme Terminator style. I would totally watch that.

2835
02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I can see right be Jordan doing it.

2836
02:09:05.039 --> 02:09:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that'd be kind of cool.

2837
02:09:06.039 --> 02:09:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, So I still find it funny that I've

2838
02:09:08.760 --> 02:09:11.079
<v Speaker 1>never seen Terminator two when I first met you, and

2839
02:09:11.119 --> 02:09:13.039
<v Speaker 1>then flash forward a month and I had seen it

2840
02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:13.840
<v Speaker 1>six times.

2841
02:09:14.560 --> 02:09:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I still have not seen it all with me.

2842
02:09:16.920 --> 02:09:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I still have not seen the first movie. Really

2843
02:09:21.159 --> 02:09:24.720
<v Speaker 1>m m oh, you spend all those times shoving two

2844
02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:25.920
<v Speaker 1>down my throat, which I enjoyed.

2845
02:09:26.319 --> 02:09:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

2846
02:09:28.920 --> 02:09:32.239
<v Speaker 1>The difference. I know it's much grittier and scarier.

2847
02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:34.039
<v Speaker 2>But I think you would appreciate it. It's fun like,

2848
02:09:34.079 --> 02:09:36.359
<v Speaker 2>and I've appreciated more as I've gotten older and watched

2849
02:09:36.359 --> 02:09:39.560
<v Speaker 2>it more. It is like it's doing some really cool ship.

2850
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to watch it. I just put it

2851
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:45.399
<v Speaker 1>off for so long now it's this looming specter having.

2852
02:09:45.680 --> 02:09:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching Sopranos.

2853
02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:51.439
<v Speaker 1>You watch Terminator Yeah, true, okay, I will, uh well,

2854
02:09:51.479 --> 02:09:52.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

2855
02:09:53.239 --> 02:09:57.119
<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's more answers to that. It's just

2856
02:09:57.159 --> 02:09:58.720
<v Speaker 4>like those are the ones that we have. But I

2857
02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:01.279
<v Speaker 4>actually think we could answer this exact same question again

2858
02:10:01.359 --> 02:10:03.399
<v Speaker 4>with more thought and be like I could fix this book,

2859
02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:05.880
<v Speaker 4>I could fix this song, I could fix this you know.

2860
02:10:05.880 --> 02:10:06.199
<v Speaker 3>What I mean.

2861
02:10:06.239 --> 02:10:08.159
<v Speaker 4>I think there's lots of media where I'd be like

2862
02:10:08.520 --> 02:10:09.479
<v Speaker 4>with my hubrews.

2863
02:10:09.520 --> 02:10:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I think I could be like, I think I.

2864
02:10:11.319 --> 02:10:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Could do it, Marathon. Let's get rid of this extraction

2865
02:10:14.359 --> 02:10:16.199
<v Speaker 2>shit and just give me a fucking campaign and we

2866
02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:17.199
<v Speaker 2>do it every week.

2867
02:10:17.319 --> 02:10:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's actually what the podcast is, all.

2868
02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, Thank you, Cold Sarah. Next one, Hi, I'm Morgan

2869
02:10:23.560 --> 02:10:26.000
<v Speaker 1>from the San Francisco Bay Area. I almost bled to

2870
02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:28.800
<v Speaker 1>death recently and it was bonkers, but not nearly as

2871
02:10:28.840 --> 02:10:31.399
<v Speaker 1>scary or painful as I thought a near death experience

2872
02:10:31.399 --> 02:10:33.760
<v Speaker 1>would be. Honestly, the worst of it was they didn't

2873
02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:35.600
<v Speaker 1>let me eat for three days post surgery. I was

2874
02:10:35.640 --> 02:10:38.159
<v Speaker 1>super pissed off. So what's the worst thing that's happened

2875
02:10:38.199 --> 02:10:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to you that was much less terrifying than your imagination

2876
02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:41.880
<v Speaker 1>made it out to be.

2877
02:10:44.000 --> 02:10:46.039
<v Speaker 3>That's terrifying. I'm glad they're okay.

2878
02:10:47.439 --> 02:10:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll say in a non horrifying version of this, I

2879
02:10:50.319 --> 02:10:52.760
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people are afraid A lot of

2880
02:10:52.760 --> 02:10:54.479
<v Speaker 2>people are afraid of and I think all three of

2881
02:10:54.520 --> 02:10:56.680
<v Speaker 2>us can relate to this. The idea of moving away

2882
02:10:56.720 --> 02:10:59.119
<v Speaker 2>from your hometown, I think a lot of people get

2883
02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:01.279
<v Speaker 2>very eimidated by that. It's like, this is where I

2884
02:11:01.319 --> 02:11:02.720
<v Speaker 2>grew up, this is where my family, this is where

2885
02:11:02.760 --> 02:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>my friends are and things like that, and like, you know,

2886
02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:07.279
<v Speaker 2>it was nine, I moved up here in Minneapolis, and

2887
02:11:07.319 --> 02:11:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I did this numerous times since then, and it is

2888
02:11:09.760 --> 02:11:13.319
<v Speaker 2>it is a scary concept, but like I don't know,

2889
02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:15.880
<v Speaker 2>move for a reason. You know. Let there be like

2890
02:11:15.880 --> 02:11:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a job or something that brings you out. You'll meet people,

2891
02:11:18.039 --> 02:11:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you'll find a new life and things like that. You

2892
02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:23.840
<v Speaker 2>can always go back. It's it is a terrifying thing

2893
02:11:24.399 --> 02:11:26.319
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people. And then I have found

2894
02:11:26.359 --> 02:11:28.319
<v Speaker 2>it to be like I haven't regretted a single move

2895
02:11:28.319 --> 02:11:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I've ever done. Like it's they've all had their mostly ups.

2896
02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Like really, even like I didn't love Connecticut, but it

2897
02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:36.520
<v Speaker 2>was an important part of my life. I don't like

2898
02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.479
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco as a city, but like that was a

2899
02:11:38.520 --> 02:11:40.439
<v Speaker 2>super critical part of my life and everything. So it's

2900
02:11:40.439 --> 02:11:43.199
<v Speaker 2>like I've never regretted a move for a moment. So

2901
02:11:43.359 --> 02:11:45.439
<v Speaker 2>to take the plunge, make the move, even if it

2902
02:11:45.479 --> 02:11:46.399
<v Speaker 2>sounds scary, you know.

2903
02:11:46.680 --> 02:11:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, looking back, it's like crazy that I was not

2904
02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:53.520
<v Speaker 1>more afraid moving to the opposite coast by myself when

2905
02:11:53.520 --> 02:11:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I was like twenty two. But sure, yeah it worked out.

2906
02:11:57.039 --> 02:11:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be living here, right now if I didn't

2907
02:11:59.199 --> 02:11:59.880
<v Speaker 1>go there first.

2908
02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:02.439
<v Speaker 2>My alternative is way scarier, where it's like there's so

2909
02:12:02.439 --> 02:12:05.159
<v Speaker 2>many people that just like, well, they've never lived outside

2910
02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:07.319
<v Speaker 2>of this county they grew up in, and that's just

2911
02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:08.560
<v Speaker 2>where they're always going to be, and it's like, well

2912
02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that just sounds boring as hell.

2913
02:12:10.239 --> 02:12:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I yeah. I'm a big proponent of if you

2914
02:12:15.800 --> 02:12:19.199
<v Speaker 1>can get out and travel or move or see more

2915
02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>in the world that I feel like it's almost a responsibility.

2916
02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:25.680
<v Speaker 1>If you can not everybody can. There's financial or like

2917
02:12:25.720 --> 02:12:28.520
<v Speaker 1>family ties keeping you or like health issues, et cetera.

2918
02:12:28.600 --> 02:12:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But if you can, I think it's it's it's well

2919
02:12:30.880 --> 02:12:36.359
<v Speaker 1>worth pursuing mine. Minor lore stakes. When I was younger,

2920
02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I was like terrified of dancing publicly, like at weddings

2921
02:12:40.079 --> 02:12:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I was, oh, like that's mine. It's like

2922
02:12:44.399 --> 02:12:47.119
<v Speaker 1>oh once I started actually just like giving out the

2923
02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:49.319
<v Speaker 1>idea that the whole room was watching me and like

2924
02:12:49.399 --> 02:12:51.720
<v Speaker 1>acknowledging that everybody was just the whole point was to

2925
02:12:51.720 --> 02:12:53.239
<v Speaker 1>make a full of yourself and have fun and let

2926
02:12:53.279 --> 02:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>go like, oh man, I love it now.

2927
02:12:55.560 --> 02:12:58.159
<v Speaker 2>And it was that's such a weird thing because it's

2928
02:12:58.199 --> 02:13:00.239
<v Speaker 2>like that is this thing that is left over in

2929
02:13:00.279 --> 02:13:03.399
<v Speaker 2>my brain from that like super like anxious, awkward, you know,

2930
02:13:03.520 --> 02:13:05.439
<v Speaker 2>high school kid that was afraid of me. I'm gonna

2931
02:13:05.439 --> 02:13:07.279
<v Speaker 2>make a fool out of myself, and now like that

2932
02:13:07.319 --> 02:13:09.720
<v Speaker 2>made sense when you're an awkward like high schooler. Now

2933
02:13:10.119 --> 02:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming. I've done twenty two years or whatever of

2934
02:13:12.680 --> 02:13:15.119
<v Speaker 2>making a fool out of myself publicly for a living,

2935
02:13:15.840 --> 02:13:18.359
<v Speaker 2>and I still have this leftover thing in my brain

2936
02:13:18.359 --> 02:13:19.920
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I can't dance. I don't know what

2937
02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. It's gonna be you know, like I don't

2938
02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:24.560
<v Speaker 2>know why I still have that thing, and I'm not

2939
02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:26.880
<v Speaker 2>just out there just having a blast and being a goofball.

2940
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:28.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, you guys were at my wedding. I was

2941
02:13:29.239 --> 02:13:31.039
<v Speaker 1>making a fool of myself more than anybody. But like

2942
02:13:31.119 --> 02:13:34.159
<v Speaker 1>every like a lot of people are dancing and stuff

2943
02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:37.520
<v Speaker 1>like it. That's I have a lot of fun doing it.

2944
02:13:37.560 --> 02:13:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not a good dancer. But similar thing with

2945
02:13:39.680 --> 02:13:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like karaoke. I was terrified to doing that at first,

2946
02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:46.439
<v Speaker 1>but then of course, like Amanda and I have done

2947
02:13:46.479 --> 02:13:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a few duets recently at like parties, the wine Bar

2948
02:13:48.960 --> 02:13:53.640
<v Speaker 1>party we did, we did talking Head Surprise. It's always

2949
02:13:53.680 --> 02:13:55.800
<v Speaker 1>terrifying on the way up. Then you're up there, it's like, oh,

2950
02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole room singing with you, and nobody there is

2951
02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>our good singers unless you work for game Spot and

2952
02:14:01.800 --> 02:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>there's like six people who are professional singers making everybody

2953
02:14:04.800 --> 02:14:06.880
<v Speaker 1>else look bad at the post e three party. But

2954
02:14:06.920 --> 02:14:10.640
<v Speaker 1>outside of that, it's the public stuff, public speaking rather

2955
02:14:10.680 --> 02:14:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in person. Like I got over my fear of public

2956
02:14:13.520 --> 02:14:16.279
<v Speaker 1>speaking pretty early on, but it was definitely terrifying at first.

2957
02:14:16.279 --> 02:14:20.159
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like that's is most people's biggest fear. Yeah, yeah,

2958
02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that's extremely universal. But yeah, Similarly, dancing in karaoke and

2959
02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:27.720
<v Speaker 1>just like performing in front of people was Once I

2960
02:14:27.760 --> 02:14:29.319
<v Speaker 1>did it, I was like, oh, it's actually really freeing

2961
02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:30.039
<v Speaker 1>and therapeutic.

2962
02:14:30.840 --> 02:14:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Those are both really wholesome examples of things that are

2963
02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:35.359
<v Speaker 4>like scary to so many people.

2964
02:14:36.279 --> 02:14:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Mine is not.

2965
02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Death, but it is like something that truly scared me

2966
02:14:42.199 --> 02:14:43.920
<v Speaker 4>when I was learning how to scuba dive, which I

2967
02:14:43.960 --> 02:14:46.199
<v Speaker 4>was terrified that if something went wrong under the water

2968
02:14:46.319 --> 02:14:50.600
<v Speaker 4>that I would literally die down there. And my biggest

2969
02:14:50.640 --> 02:14:53.920
<v Speaker 4>fear was that something would go wrong with my oxygen

2970
02:14:54.359 --> 02:15:00.479
<v Speaker 4>or my what's it called the regulator, the the peace

2971
02:15:00.520 --> 02:15:04.199
<v Speaker 4>that goes in your mouth. What happens when your mouth

2972
02:15:04.239 --> 02:15:05.000
<v Speaker 4>is full of water?

2973
02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:07.239
<v Speaker 3>How do you get rid of it? That's so scary.

2974
02:15:07.520 --> 02:15:09.439
<v Speaker 4>And so you practice in a pool and they teach

2975
02:15:09.479 --> 02:15:11.439
<v Speaker 4>you that there's like a button you can press in it.

2976
02:15:11.439 --> 02:15:14.199
<v Speaker 4>It pushes a bunch of air in your mouth so

2977
02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:17.479
<v Speaker 4>that you can essentially open your mouth underwater, and it

2978
02:15:17.640 --> 02:15:21.079
<v Speaker 4>just puts so much air in your mouth that it's okay,

2979
02:15:21.359 --> 02:15:23.359
<v Speaker 4>and it'll push out all the water and you can

2980
02:15:23.439 --> 02:15:23.920
<v Speaker 4>keep going.

2981
02:15:24.680 --> 02:15:26.239
<v Speaker 3>But when you are being.

2982
02:15:27.880 --> 02:15:30.439
<v Speaker 4>Pushed underwater, And what happened to me, at least the

2983
02:15:30.520 --> 02:15:34.960
<v Speaker 4>very first time I ever scuba dove scuba dived, was

2984
02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:40.039
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't sink, and so he held my vest and

2985
02:15:40.119 --> 02:15:43.319
<v Speaker 4>started sinking and dragging me down to the depths of.

2986
02:15:43.239 --> 02:15:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Them trying to kill in it retrospect, I don't think

2987
02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I knew you scuba dove.

2988
02:15:51.239 --> 02:15:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

2989
02:15:51.600 --> 02:15:54.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm no longer certified, but I learned when I was

2990
02:15:54.399 --> 02:15:57.159
<v Speaker 4>like twenty four, you know, it was a long time ago,

2991
02:15:57.359 --> 02:16:03.359
<v Speaker 4>and I was so terrified of this experience, and I had,

2992
02:16:03.399 --> 02:16:05.680
<v Speaker 4>like maybe even had like dreams or nightmares of like

2993
02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:07.319
<v Speaker 4>what happens if I can't breathe down there?

2994
02:16:07.359 --> 02:16:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Like you can't just swim to the top right.

2995
02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:12.760
<v Speaker 4>You will hurt yourself and you will you will pass

2996
02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:13.840
<v Speaker 4>out and probably die.

2997
02:16:14.039 --> 02:16:15.119
<v Speaker 3>You have to figure it out.

2998
02:16:15.319 --> 02:16:18.359
<v Speaker 4>So when I got down there, as it happens, it

2999
02:16:18.399 --> 02:16:20.319
<v Speaker 4>is bound to happen. This is why you practice in

3000
02:16:20.359 --> 02:16:23.439
<v Speaker 4>a pool. My mouth got a bunch of water in it.

3001
02:16:23.520 --> 02:16:25.319
<v Speaker 4>My mouth got water in it, and I needed to

3002
02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:28.880
<v Speaker 4>I needed to expunge with the with the regulator, and

3003
02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I got my heart was like pacing and I was like,

3004
02:16:30.880 --> 02:16:32.360
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, oh my god. If I don't do

3005
02:16:32.440 --> 02:16:35.399
<v Speaker 4>this right, I'll fucking die. You push the button, the

3006
02:16:35.479 --> 02:16:38.280
<v Speaker 4>air gets pushes all the water out of your mouth.

3007
02:16:38.799 --> 02:16:42.399
<v Speaker 4>And I was fine, and I had a really good experience.

3008
02:16:42.719 --> 02:16:48.319
<v Speaker 4>And uh the scuba instructor checked my oxygen and was like, wow,

3009
02:16:48.360 --> 02:16:51.520
<v Speaker 4>it's pretty low, so we're gonna slowly go back up.

3010
02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:54.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, okay, that's also a nightmare situation.

3011
02:16:55.280 --> 02:16:58.399
<v Speaker 4>It was fine. We had more than fifteen minutes of oxygen.

3012
02:16:58.559 --> 02:17:00.840
<v Speaker 4>We slowly made our way back up and it was

3013
02:17:00.879 --> 02:17:03.040
<v Speaker 4>a great experience that I get to have for the

3014
02:17:03.079 --> 02:17:04.840
<v Speaker 4>rest of my life. And I'm really glad that I

3015
02:17:04.920 --> 02:17:08.239
<v Speaker 4>did it. I'd be down with doing scuba diving again.

3016
02:17:08.280 --> 02:17:09.879
<v Speaker 4>But I will say like for people who probably think

3017
02:17:09.920 --> 02:17:14.040
<v Speaker 4>about this. It is absolutely a nightmare scenario of what

3018
02:17:14.159 --> 02:17:17.239
<v Speaker 4>happens when your regulator doesn't work or if you get

3019
02:17:17.280 --> 02:17:19.479
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of fucking water in your mouth. But they

3020
02:17:19.520 --> 02:17:23.120
<v Speaker 4>are as long as you keep your shit together, if

3021
02:17:23.159 --> 02:17:27.440
<v Speaker 4>you don't panic. They have buttons and systems to get

3022
02:17:27.520 --> 02:17:30.280
<v Speaker 4>you to solve small problems like that, and they're prepared

3023
02:17:30.319 --> 02:17:30.639
<v Speaker 4>for you.

3024
02:17:30.760 --> 02:17:32.920
<v Speaker 3>But that's why they make you do so much training

3025
02:17:32.920 --> 02:17:35.559
<v Speaker 3>in the pool, because if you panic, that's how you die.

3026
02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Have I told you my story about my test, my

3027
02:17:38.319 --> 02:17:46.280
<v Speaker 1>certification test. It was in March twenty fifteen in Lake

3028
02:17:46.319 --> 02:17:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Skinny Atlas say, very very deep. It's one of the

3029
02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:51.719
<v Speaker 1>finger lakes, so it's very deep, still very cold in March,

3030
02:17:52.399 --> 02:17:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and weird in our drysuits. And you know the joke,

3031
02:17:56.159 --> 02:17:57.639
<v Speaker 1>it's like, what's the worst time to have a heart

3032
02:17:57.639 --> 02:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>attack is during a game of charades. I was. We

3033
02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:03.479
<v Speaker 1>were at the bottom and we had to show that

3034
02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we knew how to do all the hand signals to

3035
02:18:05.120 --> 02:18:07.159
<v Speaker 1>show that your oxygen was out or you needed something.

3036
02:18:07.719 --> 02:18:12.959
<v Speaker 1>And these hand signals, oh thunder, sorry, these hand signals

3037
02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>are to tell your partner that your diving buddy that yeah,

3038
02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you need their primary tube. You got. Your primary tube

3039
02:18:21.239 --> 02:18:22.959
<v Speaker 1>comes directly from the tank over your shoulder, and the

3040
02:18:22.959 --> 02:18:24.879
<v Speaker 1>longer one you got a secondary one that's strapped to

3041
02:18:24.959 --> 02:18:26.760
<v Speaker 1>your BC the BUO and s bully.

3042
02:18:27.280 --> 02:18:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Someone in case your regulator goes down. Everybody has two.

3043
02:18:30.559 --> 02:18:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Like a parachute, you get two just in case.

3044
02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:36.120
<v Speaker 1>So during the part where we had to do the

3045
02:18:36.159 --> 02:18:39.239
<v Speaker 1>hand signal to tell our buddy that we were out

3046
02:18:39.239 --> 02:18:41.879
<v Speaker 1>of air or our primary tube wasn't working, turns out

3047
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>my something in my primary tube actually did freeze. So

3048
02:18:45.760 --> 02:18:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I got a lot of water in

3049
02:18:46.959 --> 02:18:49.600
<v Speaker 1>my mouth, Like the tube actually stopped working. And I was,

3050
02:18:49.879 --> 02:18:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, fifty feet below the surface. And

3051
02:18:53.239 --> 02:18:55.799
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like doing the thing I was doing that

3052
02:18:55.840 --> 02:18:58.159
<v Speaker 1>you'd get their attention. Then you do this, and then

3053
02:18:59.040 --> 02:19:02.319
<v Speaker 1>he the he saw me. He's like, yeah, yeah, good job.

3054
02:19:03.479 --> 02:19:06.719
<v Speaker 1>And by this point but okay, so by this point,

3055
02:19:06.760 --> 02:19:08.559
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, oh wait a minute, right, I

3056
02:19:08.600 --> 02:19:10.399
<v Speaker 1>have the secondary right here, so pull it up, and

3057
02:19:10.399 --> 02:19:13.239
<v Speaker 1>that was working. It's not as comfortable because it's tight

3058
02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.399
<v Speaker 1>to the vest. So you're kind of like so he

3059
02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:18.559
<v Speaker 1>saw me do that, and he's like, oh shit, his

3060
02:19:18.559 --> 02:19:25.319
<v Speaker 1>his is actually fucked. So my buddy swam over and

3061
02:19:25.520 --> 02:19:27.799
<v Speaker 1>actually gave me his primary, so that was much more comfortable. So,

3062
02:19:27.840 --> 02:19:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like the idea is you get the primary, you get

3063
02:19:29.239 --> 02:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the breath there, and then you go back up slowly.

3064
02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>We weren't down far enough where we were ever going

3065
02:19:34.840 --> 02:19:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to get like the bends if we went up too quickly.

3066
02:19:38.200 --> 02:19:41.479
<v Speaker 1>But that was definitely like a bad time to have

3067
02:19:41.680 --> 02:19:44.079
<v Speaker 1>problems was during the test where you're trying to show

3068
02:19:44.079 --> 02:19:46.959
<v Speaker 1>that you can hypothetically convey that you're having problems.

3069
02:19:47.040 --> 02:19:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I love scuba diving, scuba having to be It's like

3070
02:19:49.680 --> 02:19:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm big on like overcoming fears and stuff like that,

3071
02:19:51.879 --> 02:19:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and I am afraid of the idea of scuba diving,

3072
02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:56.280
<v Speaker 2>but I kind of also need to know that there's

3073
02:19:56.280 --> 02:19:59.000
<v Speaker 2>something I'm excited about on the other end, and like

3074
02:19:59.120 --> 02:20:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't have like desire to scooba, Like I've had

3075
02:20:02.479 --> 02:20:05.399
<v Speaker 2>desires to skydive, and that's why I've done that like

3076
02:20:05.440 --> 02:20:07.959
<v Speaker 2>seven times outside of you know, despite my fears of

3077
02:20:08.000 --> 02:20:10.120
<v Speaker 2>it scooba having I don't really.

3078
02:20:10.479 --> 02:20:12.319
<v Speaker 3>You want to hang out with the fees like.

3079
02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:14.799
<v Speaker 2>In there there's other ways to see fits.

3080
02:20:14.879 --> 02:20:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's it's like a like a pretty ethereal experience.

3081
02:20:21.399 --> 02:20:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Like being down exploring, especially like a lake that deep.

3082
02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>It was like there's stuff that's.

3083
02:20:26.479 --> 02:20:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Around coral and into caves and stuff.

3084
02:20:29.639 --> 02:20:31.639
<v Speaker 2>I bet it is awesome. I bet if I did it,

3085
02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I would love it. But it's like, I think there

3086
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>is a combination of like of this stuff you're talking about,

3087
02:20:37.040 --> 02:20:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and also like I think that definitely triggers the anxiety

3088
02:20:39.559 --> 02:20:41.440
<v Speaker 2>type thing I talked about, like not being able to

3089
02:20:41.440 --> 02:20:43.319
<v Speaker 2>eat take out a movie theater row.

3090
02:20:43.559 --> 02:20:48.520
<v Speaker 4>You cannot easily leave the bottom of a deep Oh yeah.

3091
02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Really intimidating to me.

3092
02:20:49.559 --> 02:20:52.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I wouldn't recommend it for you.

3093
02:20:53.639 --> 02:20:54.319
<v Speaker 3>I really could not.

3094
02:20:54.719 --> 02:20:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

3095
02:20:55.879 --> 02:20:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love a problem you're coming from the other end.

3096
02:20:59.319 --> 02:21:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you can't do it.

3097
02:21:00.760 --> 02:21:03.719
<v Speaker 4>Either, Like if you panic in the ocean, you can

3098
02:21:03.799 --> 02:21:06.040
<v Speaker 4>genuinely hurt yourself by being like I'm going up and

3099
02:21:06.040 --> 02:21:07.799
<v Speaker 4>like swimming up without.

3100
02:21:07.559 --> 02:21:09.959
<v Speaker 2>An instrum, no matter what they trained me to do.

3101
02:21:10.040 --> 02:21:11.680
<v Speaker 2>If I had a panic attack at the bottom of

3102
02:21:11.680 --> 02:21:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the ocean, I would be sprinting to the.

3103
02:21:14.760 --> 02:21:16.799
<v Speaker 1>At the bottom of the ocean to be clear.

3104
02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:20.079
<v Speaker 2>The bottom of the ocean as fast as I can.

3105
02:21:20.239 --> 02:21:22.680
<v Speaker 4>You also can't sprint to the top. You would be

3106
02:21:22.760 --> 02:21:27.479
<v Speaker 4>swimming and you can't swim. If you swim that fast

3107
02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:30.120
<v Speaker 4>like I think you, you can like get really sick,

3108
02:21:30.239 --> 02:21:32.600
<v Speaker 4>you can pass out, like all these bad things happen

3109
02:21:32.680 --> 02:21:32.920
<v Speaker 4>to you.

3110
02:21:33.079 --> 02:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Then I'm grabbing a fucking the closest turtle Mario sixty four,

3111
02:21:36.639 --> 02:21:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just pointing it up and I'm going like

3112
02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and he goes.

3113
02:21:39.639 --> 02:21:43.319
<v Speaker 3>He goes, he goes back down because he's like, dude,

3114
02:21:43.520 --> 02:21:45.520
<v Speaker 3>let's get tubular.

3115
02:21:45.239 --> 02:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>And what brings you on this fine day?

3116
02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like wop master.

3117
02:21:58.520 --> 02:22:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Like turtles like you guys are like testing out your

3118
02:22:02.319 --> 02:22:05.760
<v Speaker 4>gear and stuff and you your regulator isn't working. It's

3119
02:22:05.840 --> 02:22:08.360
<v Speaker 4>that's exactly the hand signal you should use.

3120
02:22:08.559 --> 02:22:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Did Yeah you pointed up like Polly Walnuts like, hey, Tod,

3121
02:22:14.559 --> 02:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>do you hear me? I just said his fucking respirators

3122
02:22:16.479 --> 02:22:23.559
<v Speaker 1>not working? Okay, Well, thank you Morgan. Write your name

3123
02:22:23.600 --> 02:22:25.239
<v Speaker 1>for a second because I didn't have the email up.

3124
02:22:25.239 --> 02:22:28.559
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3125
02:22:28.719 --> 02:22:31.159
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3126
02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:34.760
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3127
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3128
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02:23:06.479 --> 02:23:10.559
<v Speaker 1>skate merch at fireskate merch dot com. I think. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just search fire Escape on fourth Wall. Get

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<v Speaker 1>some shirts, get some water bottles, get some bikinis, get

3138
02:23:17.799 --> 02:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>those keene get those keenes ready for the summer for

3139
02:23:21.760 --> 02:23:23.799
<v Speaker 1>almost a Kienie season. I want to see you in

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<v Speaker 1>your banana hams and your sweet little keynes. Will be

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<v Speaker 1>will be keeping an eye out. We'll be keeping an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on those nude beaches for those Kenes flying off

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02:23:33.159 --> 02:23:38.319
<v Speaker 1>into the into the salty surf. Mary, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have going on.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of travel, so we'll be really busy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exciting. It's a wonderful upcoming amount of stuff. I'm

3147
02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:48.280
<v Speaker 4>going to south By Southwest. I'm gonna miss a couple streams.

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<v Speaker 4>I do love streaming on Mondays, but I'll be doing

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<v Speaker 4>south By Southwestern Austin I'll be doing New Orleans for

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02:23:55.799 --> 02:23:58.920
<v Speaker 4>my b day and I will be doing Boston for

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02:23:59.159 --> 02:24:04.879
<v Speaker 4>packs East. Both Hacks and south By Southwest have Twitch parties.

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<v Speaker 4>Consider looking them up on meetups, dot twitch, dot tv.

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<v Speaker 3>I go to all those. They're really fun and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be there if you want to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Dan, what about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a giant bomb dot com doing a lot

3157
02:24:18.479 --> 02:24:22.079
<v Speaker 2>of great stuff over there. Blake Club I should be

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02:24:22.079 --> 02:24:25.799
<v Speaker 2>playing soon, so check that out. I'm doing a lot

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02:24:25.799 --> 02:24:29.120
<v Speaker 2>of the same travel Mary's doing actually, and then possibly

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<v Speaker 2>a mysterious travel beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>So have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, giant bomb dot com is the main thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet.

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02:24:37.440 --> 02:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>The whole second ROP playthrough is on my YouTube if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck, I'm so sorry I didn't ask about that

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<v Speaker 1>during the game section.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the greatest games I've ever played, one of

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02:24:44.959 --> 02:24:47.959
<v Speaker 2>my favorite gaming experiences I've ever had. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>I did it. I beat the Demon of Hatred, I

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02:24:49.639 --> 02:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>beat each and I did the whole deal and what

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02:24:52.319 --> 02:24:54.559
<v Speaker 2>a ride it was from beginning to end. I will

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<v Speaker 2>play it again. I will do my dying day be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that as one of the great gaming apearances.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Now, just listen to us when we first tell

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<v Speaker 1>you it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't anyone Mike, I know, but like just do it

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02:25:08.959 --> 02:25:10.559
<v Speaker 2>in the future. That's probably smart.

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02:25:10.639 --> 02:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I've convinced you to play a few games

3180
02:25:12.639 --> 02:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't have.

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02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:14.879
<v Speaker 2>That is actually true. You've actually a lot of ones

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02:25:14.879 --> 02:25:17.520
<v Speaker 2>that I went I don't think loving Oder Wilds you

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<v Speaker 2>were the one.

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<v Speaker 1>That Yeah, all right, well we've been back with episode

3185
02:25:21.399 --> 02:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty nine in two weeks. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>be here, but Dan and Mary will I'm gonna be traveling.

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02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I've got I'll be in Sorry what then?

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02:25:30.799 --> 02:25:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was gonna say, uh, you will not be here.

3189
02:25:33.319 --> 02:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>But I did get confirmation while we were recording that one.

3190
02:25:37.120 --> 02:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Michael Manatti will be taking your place, trading one Mic

3191
02:25:40.520 --> 02:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>for another. So we got Mikey he'll be coming in here.

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02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a child that's Mike. He'll be co hosting

3193
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<v Speaker 2>on the.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trading out, You're trading out the uh, the babyface

3195
02:25:51.319 --> 02:25:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of video games. I'll live another name's Mike, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the bad boy of video games is coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Make him make him hosts, Yeah, make him hosts as

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<v Speaker 1>me the entire show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think he can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's just the narcissistan me. I want to hear it. Sure,

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02:26:11.719 --> 02:26:13.479
<v Speaker 1>but we're back in a couple episodes. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>back in or I'll be back in a couple episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back in a couple of weeks. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in uh, Paris and Florida and doing a

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<v Speaker 1>few other things on the home front. Gonna miss you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait to hear about New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>Have some stories coming out of New Orleans. I think

3208
02:26:31.159 --> 02:26:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and company will probably have some drinks and have a

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<v Speaker 2>good time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm stone sober Nola.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm slightly intimidated by the group we have in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to be a sloppy, jaloppy group, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a lot of beignets and probably some some

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<v Speaker 4>daytime streak drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day with a frozen Irish coffee from Mollie's. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see where the day takes us.

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<v Speaker 1>Have fun, and we'll see everybody else in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. Bye Bye,