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<v Speaker 1>So the deaths of dozens of young men across eleven

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<v Speaker 1>states and twenty five cities were declared accidental drownings. But

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<v Speaker 1>now new surveillance video puts them back in the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a smiley faced killer. That case has become

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<v Speaker 1>front page news again. There's a lot more to it

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<v Speaker 1>than we know.

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<v Speaker 2>This was abducted in a cargo van.

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<v Speaker 1>He was driven around Minneapolis for hours and tortured.

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<v Speaker 2>These are young, highly intelligent, very athletic young men that

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<v Speaker 2>disappear if the night of drinking very suspiciously. You Most

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<v Speaker 2>of them have GHB, which is how did this drug

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<v Speaker 2>wind up in the body incapacitated them.

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<v Speaker 3>They have injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>They are held for a period of time because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no decomposition on the body for the amount of time

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<v Speaker 2>that they're missing, and then they're the positive bodies of

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<v Speaker 2>water to be recovered later drowned. But most of them

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't even have water in their lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>And we knew it wasn't and it was just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where he walked out and it

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<v Speaker 1>was never seen again.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like Brian to know that if you're out

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<v Speaker 3>there and you can come.

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<v Speaker 4>Home, if I would have known that was the last

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<v Speaker 4>time I was ever going to see him.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't let him go.

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<v Speaker 4>With so many cases of young men going out to

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<v Speaker 4>bars and or parties with groups of friends and ending

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<v Speaker 4>up disappearing for weeks or even months at a time,

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<v Speaker 4>only to be found in random nearby water sources, deceased

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<v Speaker 4>under very strange circumstances, there was bound to at some

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<v Speaker 4>point be a theory that popped up. This would be

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<v Speaker 4>what we know as the smiley faced killer or killer's theory.

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<v Speaker 4>The connections in these cases were discovered and parameters for

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<v Speaker 4>such cases were set, put together and advanced retired New

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<v Speaker 4>York City detectives Kevin Gannon, Anthony Duarte, and doctor Lee Gilbertson.

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<v Speaker 4>Gilbertson is a criminal justice professor and gang expert at

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<v Speaker 4>Saint Cloud State University. The theory alleges that a number

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<v Speaker 4>of young men found dead in seemingly random bodies of

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<v Speaker 4>water across the United States, with specific attention being focused

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<v Speaker 4>on the Midwestern States between the early nineteen nineties and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty tens, did not in fact drowned, but were the

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<v Speaker 4>victims of foul play. Law enforcement agencies across the country

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<v Speaker 4>are denying there's any kind of connection, usually with the

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<v Speaker 4>corners signing off on the typical got drunk, wandered off

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<v Speaker 4>and into water source and drowned due to intoxication.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the cause of death.

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<v Speaker 4>However, these two detectives and a doctor deorized that these

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<v Speaker 4>specific drownings, with several very specific parameters which we'll discuss

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<v Speaker 4>in this documentary, are all connected somehow. They believe all

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<v Speaker 4>of them to be the work of a serial killer

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<v Speaker 4>or group of killers, who reportedly leave a smiley face

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<v Speaker 4>in some type of graffiti near the sites where these

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<v Speaker 4>boys and young men are said by law enforcement to

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<v Speaker 4>have drowned accidentally. How many times could there be such

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<v Speaker 4>a situation near the water where a young man, after

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<v Speaker 4>night of innocent partying and fun, was separated from his

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<v Speaker 4>group and never seen again until his body was recovered

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<v Speaker 4>Before we all agree it can't be a coincidence anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's look further into it now, and at the end

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<v Speaker 4>you tell me what you think. Is it possible that

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<v Speaker 4>a killer or a group of killers could be so

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<v Speaker 4>skilled as to never leave any trace of their existence

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<v Speaker 4>behind during an alleged span of twenty or more years,

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<v Speaker 4>No forensic evidence, no physical evidence, not one single shred

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<v Speaker 4>of evidence of foul play.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not quite.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with the case of Christopher Jenkins in two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and two. Christopher Jenkins was a university student in

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<v Speaker 4>Minnesota State. He decided to go out drinking at a

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<v Speaker 4>bar in Minneapolis on Halloween night with a group of

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<v Speaker 4>friends and his girlfriend. The crew ended up at the

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<v Speaker 4>Lone Tree Bar, which is allegedly in a sketchy part

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<v Speaker 4>of the town. Chris dressed up as a Native American

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<v Speaker 4>that night. It was in a full costume. While reports

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<v Speaker 4>very greatly the story told, the most was that for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason or another, an intoxicated Chris was asked to

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<v Speaker 4>leave the bar that night, so he was basically thrown

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<v Speaker 4>out and decided to walk home alone. Again, since he

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<v Speaker 4>was with his girlfriend and a large group of friends

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<v Speaker 4>that night, is unknown why he was walking home alone.

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<v Speaker 4>Many say it's what he wanted to do to blow

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<v Speaker 4>off some steam as he was angry for being thrown

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<v Speaker 4>out of the bar. A bouncer who remembered asking Chris

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<v Speaker 4>to leave and also walking him out the door, reported

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<v Speaker 4>he had taken a left on Hennepin Avenue. He had

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<v Speaker 4>left his wallet phone, and jacket behind when he exited

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<v Speaker 4>the bar and walked into the freezing cold Minnesota night.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people claim Chris left on his own that night. However,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't make much sense if he left all those

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<v Speaker 4>things behind the bar. Chris Jenkins would be found four

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<v Speaker 4>months later in the Hennepin River in the Horseshoe Dam area.

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<v Speaker 4>His Native American costume was still completely intact, and his

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<v Speaker 4>legs and arms are crossed. He was also found with

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<v Speaker 4>some hair in his hands, and it's been a huge

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<v Speaker 4>controversy over whether or not the hair found clutched in

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<v Speaker 4>the death grip of his fingers was his own or

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<v Speaker 4>someone else's. Some are adamant that it was his own hair,

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<v Speaker 4>while others are just as mheman it was someone else's.

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<v Speaker 4>Upon taking another look at the autopsy, it was determined

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<v Speaker 4>that the only way his body would have been found

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<v Speaker 4>in the position it was in was if there had

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<v Speaker 4>been a struggle. Despite this, his case was labeled as

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<v Speaker 4>he took his own life. In two thousand and six, however,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a new police chief in Indianapolis named Tim Dolan, who,

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<v Speaker 4>upon a closer look, reopened the case as a homicide

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<v Speaker 4>and started immediately reinvestigating it. Dolan went so far as

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<v Speaker 4>to hold us conference and apologized to the family for

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<v Speaker 4>not investigating Chris's case as a homicide all along. There

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<v Speaker 4>were just too many unanswered questions. The sticking point for

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<v Speaker 4>many who believed from the very beginning it was a

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<v Speaker 4>homicide or who came around to that opinion later on

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<v Speaker 4>was the hair found in his hands?

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<v Speaker 3>Whose was it?

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<v Speaker 4>It was also reported, upon further examination of the toxic

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<v Speaker 4>college report, that Chris had nowhere near enough alcohol in

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<v Speaker 4>his system to be considered inebriated enough to not be

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<v Speaker 4>able to walk or talk on his own. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been said that most likely, if they hadn't found

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<v Speaker 4>the GHB in his system, he may not have been

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<v Speaker 4>impaired at all. Upon further investigation and what was now

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<v Speaker 4>being considered a homicide, a witness turned up who had

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<v Speaker 4>stated he had been drinking at the same bar a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of months prior to Chris having gone missing there,

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<v Speaker 4>and he claims he was extremely sick and ineborated after

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<v Speaker 4>only consuming his first drink of the night. He also

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<v Speaker 4>claims that quote a few men unquote tried to put

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<v Speaker 4>him in a car, but his friends found him before

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<v Speaker 4>this could happen and saved him. Were these men just

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<v Speaker 4>good samaritans trying to give what seemed to be a

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<v Speaker 4>very intoxicated man or ride home. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 4>then why have they not yet come forward and made

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<v Speaker 4>themselves known to the very least get rid of some

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<v Speaker 4>of the confusion regarding the matter. Were these the actual

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<v Speaker 4>Smiley Face killers or at least a few of them.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go down the rabbit hole into this whole

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<v Speaker 4>murder theory, you will find that the main idea is

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<v Speaker 4>there's an extremely large group of individuals throughout the country

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<v Speaker 4>who are somehow operating together to drug and abduct these smart, athletic,

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<v Speaker 4>good looking, well liked and normally fairly responsible young men

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<v Speaker 4>and do whatever it is they're doing with it before

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<v Speaker 4>throwing them into random water sources nearby to where they

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<v Speaker 4>were last seen, but quite far from the intended end destination.

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<v Speaker 4>The only connection the Smiley Face, which will inevitably be

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<v Speaker 4>found in close proximity to the back to the supposed

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<v Speaker 4>almost abduction witness his friends who were nice enough to

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<v Speaker 4>take him immediately to the hospital because of his poor state,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was found through tests he had an extremely

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<v Speaker 4>high level of GHB in his system. The police were

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<v Speaker 4>able to obtain this man's toxicology report with his permission,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, through the hospital records from when he came

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<v Speaker 4>in that night. He was exhibiting all the symptoms of

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<v Speaker 4>someone who had either taken or had their drink dosed

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<v Speaker 4>with GHB. Now a little background. GHB synthetic gamma hydroxyl

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<v Speaker 4>butty rate or GHB, is a nervous system depressant which

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<v Speaker 4>was once manufactured in the lab with the hopes of

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<v Speaker 4>inducing sleep and providing pain relief for patients undergoing surgery

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<v Speaker 4>or having other major medical procedures. It was eventually found

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<v Speaker 4>to be ineffective at relieving pain and was deemed completely

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<v Speaker 4>unsafe for distribution after the clinical studies showed a large

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<v Speaker 4>number of test subjects for having seized intense and almost

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<v Speaker 4>constant vomiting and swings between consciousness and unconsciousness, so basically

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<v Speaker 4>the subjects were randomly passing out and waking up over

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<v Speaker 4>and over and over again. Unfortunately, GHB became popular in

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<v Speaker 4>athletic circles as many athletes heard about its effects on metabolism,

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<v Speaker 4>mainly its.

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<v Speaker 3>Ability to speed it up.

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<v Speaker 4>It stimulated the human growth hormone, which is known to

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<v Speaker 4>reduce body fat while increasing muscle mass and athlete's dream

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<v Speaker 4>come true. Later on, in the nineteen nineties, when these

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<v Speaker 4>bizarre water deaths started occurring, GHB became a very popular

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<v Speaker 4>recreational drug in the so called club scene. It was

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<v Speaker 4>used here because of its euphoric effects and was commonly

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<v Speaker 4>combined with methamphetamines or MDMA, as each drug played off

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<v Speaker 4>the other to enhance it. Unfortunately, the fast rate of

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<v Speaker 4>unconsciousness is what has gained GHB its more dubious reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been used in.

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<v Speaker 4>An almost exorbitant amount of sexual assaught cases, particularly those

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<v Speaker 4>cases pertaining to sexual assaults on a date, due to

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<v Speaker 4>not only the fast rate of knocking the victim unconscious,

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<v Speaker 4>but also because of the after effects. There's almost no

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<v Speaker 4>memory of the events which have occurred after you've taken

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<v Speaker 4>a certain.

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<v Speaker 3>Amount of the drug.

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<v Speaker 4>So now we know a bit about GHB and its

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<v Speaker 4>origins and how it could possibly be a very important

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<v Speaker 4>part of evidence going forward. Let's move on to some

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<v Speaker 4>other cases. It should be said that while the body

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<v Speaker 4>makes a very small amount of GHB on its own,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not enough to even have any effect on a

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<v Speaker 4>person at its natural rate of metabolism of the body.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to either be surreptitiously given or purposely consumed

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<v Speaker 4>in larger doses to have any significant effect whatsoever. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>it isn't automatically tested for in most autopsies and toxicology screenings.

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<v Speaker 3>Drowning deaths included next case.

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<v Speaker 4>On January twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, at around eleven thirty pm,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three year old graduate student Dakota James was walking

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<v Speaker 4>back to his apartment after night out parting with a

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<v Speaker 4>group of his friends and co workers. The last known

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<v Speaker 4>sighting of him was a surveillance camera in the downtown

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<v Speaker 4>area that picked him up walking in the direction of

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<v Speaker 4>his home. He is seen in this footage walking into

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<v Speaker 4>a dark alley and is never seen alive again. When

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<v Speaker 4>James didn't show up for work the following morning, his

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<v Speaker 4>boss was concerned enough to call his family, who in

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<v Speaker 4>turn notified the police interported him as missing. They unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>were falsely told that they had to wait seventy two

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<v Speaker 4>hours to do so. When nothing seemed to be getting

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<v Speaker 4>accomplished by the local police, the family hired a private

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<v Speaker 4>investigator who organized a massive search of the downtown area

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<v Speaker 4>where Dakota was last known to be seen on.

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<v Speaker 3>That video footage.

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<v Speaker 4>This search is what led to the discovery of his

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<v Speaker 4>a mere drowning, we may never actually get the answers. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>no tests were performed to discover if there were any

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<v Speaker 4>GHB in his system or not. A smiley face was

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<v Speaker 4>found spray painted on a nearby underpass. Keep in mind

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<v Speaker 4>that on that last bit of footage of Dakota he

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<v Speaker 4>This is another common occurrence in these strange disappearances, either

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<v Speaker 4>Dakota's parents say there is no possible way he could

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get himself out. Four years later, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's no new information in Dakota's case at this time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still closed and still ruled an accidental drowning. His

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<v Speaker 4>parents still have no answers to their many questions, mainly

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<v Speaker 4>could this have been the work of the smiley face

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<v Speaker 4>killer or killers. Next case, on January nineteenth, twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>in Woodland, Pennsylvania, a young man named Tommy Booth was

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<v Speaker 4>out celebrating his birthday marhopping with his friends. This has

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<v Speaker 4>the parameters known to be a smiley faced killing possibility.

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy Booth was captured on the bar of surveillance footage

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<v Speaker 4>entering the bar, but there was no video evidence of

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<v Speaker 4>people who subscribe to this theory think is extremely strange

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<v Speaker 4>and cannot easily be explained away. How can someone be

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<v Speaker 4>captured on surveillance video entering a place but then not exiting,

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<v Speaker 4>only to be found later on deceeased somewhere in a

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<v Speaker 4>seemingly random nearby water source. Many people take this evidence,

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<v Speaker 4>or lack thereof, alone as a reason to point to

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<v Speaker 4>a group of killers, or possibly an individual being responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for these seemingly accidental deaths. There's just too much here

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't make sense. Tommy Booth was found face down

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<v Speaker 4>in the creek right behind the bar two weeks after

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<v Speaker 4>he'd gone missing. There were no signs trauma on his body,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was ruled a probable drowning. This is another

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<v Speaker 4>way in which it seems the authorities involved in these

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<v Speaker 4>in these autopsy reports. What exactly does probable drowning mean

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<v Speaker 4>it means the corner isn't sure exactly what happened and

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<v Speaker 4>thinks it might mean that the young man drowned loose

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<v Speaker 4>case is not the only autopsy to have this determination

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<v Speaker 4>of death, and it's downright confusing. How are these cases

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<v Speaker 4>both Tommy Booths and those similar with the same death

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<v Speaker 4>determination being closed if the autopsy doesn't have an exact

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<v Speaker 4>cause of death. This is where the human element comes

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<v Speaker 4>into play, whether you're discussing the inability for the corner

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<v Speaker 4>a person or even a group of people could possibly

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<v Speaker 4>continuously pull off these seemingly perfect yet completely confusing deaths

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<v Speaker 4>without leaving behind any evidence at all or being caught.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, these smiley faced killers must be so adept

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<v Speaker 4>at their work that most people don't even believe they exist,

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<v Speaker 4>and most investigators won't acknowledge that they just might. Another

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<v Speaker 4>very strange thing about Tom Booth's case is not only

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<v Speaker 4>his body having no signs of any kind of trauma

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<v Speaker 4>to it, but the place where his body was discovered.

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<v Speaker 4>It had been searched several times in the two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>before he was found there and apparently nobody even noticed it.

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<v Speaker 4>He was right out in the open, though so many

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<v Speaker 4>involved think that for him to have been found there

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<v Speaker 4>says it all. There must have been some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>foul play because he obviously wasn't there the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Groups of searchers had gone back and forth down the

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<v Speaker 4>creek for weeks and found nothing. This is yet another

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<v Speaker 4>parameter we must look for it while investigating these cases.

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<v Speaker 4>According to information released in the book case Studies in

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<v Speaker 4>Droughting Forensics, written by Kevin Gannon and doctor Lee Gilbertson,

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<v Speaker 4>Boost's body was in full rigor mortis. This is important

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<v Speaker 4>because if you remember, he was missing for two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>and found in an area which had been repeatedly searched

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<v Speaker 4>again like so many of these other cases, and full

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<v Speaker 4>rigor almost always dissipates within twenty four to thirty six hours.

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<v Speaker 4>This was just more proof to his friends, loved ones,

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<v Speaker 4>and even the volunteers and searched for him that foul

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<v Speaker 4>play was afoot. This would be a very reasonable explanation

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<v Speaker 4>as to why his body just seemed to randomly appear

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<v Speaker 4>one day. He couldn't possibly been there the whole two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>He was missing, and in fact had only been deceased

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<v Speaker 4>for twenty four to thirty six hours, So where had

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<v Speaker 4>he been the rest of the time. This is another

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<v Speaker 4>question commonly asked when reviewing the possible victims of the

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<v Speaker 4>Smiley Faced killer autopsies. Many many of these young men

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<v Speaker 4>are found in places which were already searched, and also

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<v Speaker 4>they hadn't been deceased nearly as long as they been missing. However,

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement across many states and counties have given over

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<v Speaker 4>to just ignoring this one little fact and pretending as

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<v Speaker 4>though it is somehow possible for all this to be occurring,

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<v Speaker 4>acting as if it makes perfect sense in the hopes

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<v Speaker 4>that they do not have a group of killers on

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<v Speaker 4>their hands who have been operating at a perfect success

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<v Speaker 4>rate right under their noses for.

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<v Speaker 3>Over twenty years now.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Gannon and Lee Gilbertson were also the opinion that

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<v Speaker 4>the body had been carefully staged. There seemed to be

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<v Speaker 4>three sticks strategically placed around the body, and there were

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<v Speaker 4>shoeing drag marks in the soil. A smiley face was

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<v Speaker 4>found painted under the deck of the bar on a

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<v Speaker 4>wall very nearby the body. These are just a few

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<v Speaker 4>of the many, many cases where, in the opinions of

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<v Speaker 4>most civilians familiar with what happened, the authorities should have

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<v Speaker 4>had some serious questions. Each case has at least one

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<v Speaker 4>thing mary blatant which stands out is not right or off.

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<v Speaker 4>How is it that police and investigators aren't seeing these things?

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<v Speaker 4>How is it the medical examiners aren't asking the very

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<v Speaker 4>same questions such as whose hair is that? Question in

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<v Speaker 4>his hand? And how did those sticks get placed like that?

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<v Speaker 4>And how did he drag his own body? He's unanswered

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<v Speaker 4>questions and many many more. Or what continued to fuel

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<v Speaker 4>this theory? Is there something going on out there at

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<v Speaker 4>which the government, local authorities, and even the media are

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<v Speaker 4>trying to keep from us the general public sure seems

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<v Speaker 4>that way to many of the families of the victims too.

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<v Speaker 4>Take the tragic case of Lucas Holman forget another example,

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<v Speaker 4>another tragic death which, no matter where you look at

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<v Speaker 4>it just doesn't quite add up. Lucas Holman was a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one year old who vanished on September twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and six, from Lacrosse, Wisconsin. Lucas case is

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<v Speaker 4>almost the exact same as the others. He was out

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<v Speaker 4>celebrating October with a group of friends. Everyone was drinking, partying,

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<v Speaker 4>and having a right time. But here's where things get

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<v Speaker 4>extremely confusing and even bizarre. In this case, Lucas and

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<v Speaker 4>one of his friends left the bar at around ten pm.

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<v Speaker 4>They started to walk home together, but somehow, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>still unknown exactly what happened and how it happened, Lucas

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<v Speaker 4>and his friend got separated. The friend ended up in

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<v Speaker 4>a local emergency room that night with a pretty serious

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<v Speaker 4>head injury and no memory of what had occurred. For

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<v Speaker 4>almost entirety that night, it was all just coming up blank.

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<v Speaker 4>So here we had the point of random separation and

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<v Speaker 4>somebody possibly being knocked out and waking up from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Many people feel this is two coincidental and could possibly

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<v Speaker 4>indicate the friend was knocked out and someone or a

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<v Speaker 4>group of someone's swooped in and abducted Lucas. This is,

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<v Speaker 4>after all, the very basis of the Smiley Face killer theory.

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<v Speaker 4>While the paranormal community searches transwers to all the missing

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<v Speaker 4>people just vanishing around the world without a trace, in

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<v Speaker 4>the supernatural realm, some people are looking for a human element,

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<v Speaker 4>things like the GHB levels that we mentioned and this

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<v Speaker 4>particular friend's head injury and blackout as to what led

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<v Speaker 4>them down this path At this point, it's actually more

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<v Speaker 4>like a rabbit hole than a path. When Lucas didn't

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<v Speaker 4>show up for a golf outing the next day, he

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<v Speaker 4>was reported as missing. Search dogs scouted the area where

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<v Speaker 4>Lucas had been seen, and, according to the official police report,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the dogs actually got a hit. The dog

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<v Speaker 4>alerted on a band that belonged to a local band member.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if these were just regular search dogs

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<v Speaker 4>or could have her dogs, but either way, that was

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty interesting lead. This band member just happened to

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<v Speaker 4>have been playing a gig in the same bar where

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<v Speaker 4>Lucas was last seen leaving the night before. Somewhere someone

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<v Speaker 4>came to the conclusion that the dogs alert was inconclusive

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<v Speaker 4>and the band member was never named as a suspect

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<v Speaker 4>or charged with any crime. In Digging a little deeper

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<v Speaker 4>beneath the surface, though, the story actually gets a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit stranger. The friend who was with Lucas that night,

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<v Speaker 4>the one who said he just blacked out. When he

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<v Speaker 4>turned up in the emergency room with a head injury,

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<v Speaker 4>he was charged with obstruction of justice when the authorities

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<v Speaker 4>found out. Despite him telling the investigators he couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 4>he had told multiple stories to different people who later

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<v Speaker 4>came board.

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<v Speaker 3>And told the police.

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<v Speaker 4>None of these alternate stories he was running around telling

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<v Speaker 4>anyone who would listen had him blacking out. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>he seemed to tell almost the same story to everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>was just minute differences here and there. He had been

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<v Speaker 4>overheard saying that Lucas had gotten into an altercation and

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<v Speaker 4>fled and that was the last time he saw him.

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<v Speaker 4>He then reported to he yet another person that he

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<v Speaker 4>had been cut when he was punched the head injury

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<v Speaker 4>because Lucas had gotten into a fight with three other

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<v Speaker 4>bar patrons. He also told the story about how Lucas

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<v Speaker 4>had decided to yearnate outside of the bar, right next

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<v Speaker 4>to the band's van, well of the members of the band. Coincidentally,

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<v Speaker 4>depending on what you believe, it was the same band

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<v Speaker 4>member who owned the van.

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<v Speaker 3>That the dog hit on.

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<v Speaker 4>Allegedly, this band member thought Lucas said you're NATed on

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<v Speaker 4>some of their equipment and started beating Lucas up until

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<v Speaker 4>the friend ran off after trying to break it up

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<v Speaker 4>and getting hit. It confuses some people because if this

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<v Speaker 4>friend actually got hit during an altercation outside of a bar,

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<v Speaker 4>would it really be that bad that you not only

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<v Speaker 4>need to rush to the mergency room, but also you

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<v Speaker 4>feel the need to lie to police officers conducting an

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<v Speaker 4>investigation into the disappearance of your friend, who you were

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<v Speaker 4>the last one to see alive besides his killers. Three

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<v Speaker 4>days after last being seen walking home from the bar,

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<v Speaker 4>Lucas Holman's body was found floating in the Mississippi River.

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<v Speaker 4>The autopsy report listed acute alcohol intoxication as a major

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<v Speaker 4>contributing factor in Lucas's death. Lucas' parents are more than confused,

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<v Speaker 4>to say the least. His mother, Patty, said that she

426
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<v Speaker 4>was terrified of her son going anywhere near the Mississippi River.

427
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<v Speaker 4>She said that every time he would leave her when

428
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<v Speaker 4>they were visiting, she would yell, don't go near the water.

429
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<v Speaker 4>The reason's parents were so concerned with the water was

430
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<v Speaker 4>the seven other young men who had gone missing and

431
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<v Speaker 4>ended up in the river, seven mysterious drownings in even

432
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.279
<v Speaker 4>fewer years more early, when lucas mother would yell this

433
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 4>to him about the water, she said he would respond

434
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 4>by laughing and explaining to her. Mom I've never even

435
00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.319
<v Speaker 4>been to the water. Everything we do is away from

436
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:42.519
<v Speaker 4>the water. I have no reason to go to the water.

437
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.279
<v Speaker 4>Lucas parents, Patty and Jerry, said his death makes no

438
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 4>sense because they know for an absolute fact he wouldn't

439
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 4>have gone anywhere near the river's edge, and also the

440
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.200
<v Speaker 4>river was nowhere near his route home, which is allegedly

441
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 4>where he was walking to when he left the bar

442
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:02.599
<v Speaker 4>that faithful night. This is yet another case where the

443
00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:07.000
<v Speaker 4>blood wasn't tested for GHB. It is a normal substance

444
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 4>for an autopsy to test for.

445
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it should be. The weekend before he.

446
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Went missing, Lucas and his friends were just casually discussing

447
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.160
<v Speaker 4>the tragic and mysterious drowning desks of the previously mentioned

448
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 4>seven other young men when Lucas allegedly told his friends, quote,

449
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 4>you pretty much have to be a dummy to drown in.

450
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<v Speaker 3>The river end quote?

451
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.160
<v Speaker 4>Have there ever been more faithful words spoken? In a

452
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.519
<v Speaker 4>recent documentary about some of these strange drowning cases and

453
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 4>the possibility of a smiley face killer or killers, an

454
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.039
<v Speaker 4>underwater forensic expert was brought in to help review some

455
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<v Speaker 4>of the evidence in the Lucas Homan case. And what

456
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 4>they had to say was very interesting, to say the least.

457
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<v Speaker 4>The underwater forensic expert's name is Bobby Chacombe. The team

458
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 4>also consulted with both a forensic footwear specialist named Marty

459
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<v Speaker 4>Lutis and William Moore, who is a forensic tool mark analyst.

460
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<v Speaker 4>All three of these men are experts and very well

461
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 4>respected in their fields. Jack On estimated that Lucas had

462
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>only been in the water for three hours, which goes

463
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 4>against what the police wrote in their official statement, which

464
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 4>was that he had been in the water the entire

465
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 4>time he was missing, around fifty hours. This begs the question,

466
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 4>if you'd only been in the water for three hours,

467
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 4>then where was he for the other forty seven hours

468
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 4>he was missing. This is something that comes up constantly

469
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 4>when discussing the Smiley Faced killers. A lot of the

470
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 4>victims are found in water and have been missing for

471
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 4>days or even weeks, but it's later found they've only

472
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 4>been in the water for maybe a few hours or

473
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 4>even a day or two. Where were they the rest

474
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 4>of the time being tortured? Unfortunately we still don't know,

475
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 4>and maybe we never will. Bobby Chacne wasn't the only

476
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 4>one whose expert opinion contradicted the official autopsy and Corners findings.

477
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 4>Either Moore and Loutis analyzed the marks and bruises, scrapes,

478
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<v Speaker 4>and scratches.

479
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.000
<v Speaker 3>All over Lucas's body when he was pulled out of

480
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<v Speaker 3>the river.

481
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 4>The police and eventually in the Corner stated officially that

482
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 4>these marks were all completely consistent with being dragged through

483
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 4>a river and hitting logs and rocks and anything else

484
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 4>which might have gotten in the way of a decomposing body. However,

485
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Lucas and Moore concluded that the marks on lucas forehead

486
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 4>were consistent with someone pinning him down with the sole

487
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 4>of their boot, so a boot pressed against his forehead

488
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 4>keeping him from getting up. Many people started asking questions

489
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 4>about all this and wondering how the world the official

490
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 4>police reports and the autopsy could have been so very

491
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 4>different from the subsequent investigation findings. After all, what would

492
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>these outside experts have to gain. The local authorities and

493
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 4>even the corner probably thinking about the absolute panic and

494
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 4>hysteria which would surely follow an announcement of this magnitude.

495
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 4>A single killer or a group of killers running around

496
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 4>abducting and murdering our nation's youth without leaving any trace

497
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 4>across the span of more than a decade. Were they

498
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 4>covering this up on purpose or were they just inept

499
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 4>at their job to have gotten it so horribly wrong?

500
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 4>At least according to these three outside forensics experts, based

501
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 4>on the minimal body decomposition and wound pattern, these experts

502
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 4>concluded that Lucas Horman's death could not have been that

503
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 4>of an accidental drowning, Though it doesn't say officially where,

504
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 4>it supported in other smiley face killer investigations that there

505
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 4>was in fact a smiley face painted near Lucas's body. Next,

506
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 4>we have Todd Gabe. He was just another bright young

507
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 4>man out having some fun at a bonfire party with

508
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 4>some friends on the night of June twelfth, two thousand

509
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 4>and five. The party was very close to the twenty

510
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 4>two year old's house in Casanova, Michigan. The bonfire took

511
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 4>place in the early morning hours, and Todd was reported

512
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 4>his missing later that day. On the night of his disappearance,

513
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 4>he made several phone calls to numerous different friends, but

514
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 4>only one had actually answered. The friends stated that when

515
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 4>he answered, he heard Todd say I'm in a field

516
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 4>before the call ended. To this day, no one is

517
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>sure if Todd ended the call, if the phone died,

518
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 4>if he lost service, or if something completely unknown happened.

519
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 4>What we do know is that this is the last

520
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 4>call Todd's phone would ever make, and it would go

521
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 4>straight to voicemail from then on. His body was found

522
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>three weeks later. Surprisingly, it was found in a lake

523
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 4>which was near the bonfire he had last been seen

524
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 4>that that had already been searched more than once. And

525
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 4>as if this weren't strange enough, the position of Todd's

526
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>body definitely raised some eyebrows. His body was found with

527
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 4>the head and shoulders sticking out of the water. He

528
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 4>was just bobbing there if he had jumped in to

529
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 4>take a quick swim and had been just standing there,

530
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 4>if the searchers hadn't known better, That's exactly what it

531
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 4>would have looked like, as though Todd were simply waiting

532
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 4>in the water up to his shoulders. Todd's body also

533
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 4>had very little signs of decomposition. According to reports, his

534
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 4>body's decomposition was that of how it should have been

535
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 4>the day he went missing, twenty two days earlier. So

536
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 4>this all once again begs the question where was Todd

537
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 4>for that other twenty one days. He was definitely not

538
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 4>in the water, according to the breaking down of his

539
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 4>body after death twenty two days.

540
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 3>So where was it?

541
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 4>Nobody seems to be asking these questions other than the family,

542
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 4>let alone answering them. The authorities closed this case as

543
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>another accidental drowning and shalked it up to Todd having

544
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 4>had too much to drink and accidentally wandering into the lake.

545
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 4>Todd would have been able to easily stand on the

546
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 4>spot of the lake where he was found too. Why

547
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 4>didn't he just walk out of the lake and save himself.

548
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 4>While both alcohol and antidepressants were found in Todd's bloodstream,

549
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>neither were to the level of incapacitation and hardly even

550
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 4>at the level be considered intoxicated at all. Why didn't

551
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>he save himself? Where did the antidepressants come from? They

552
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 4>weren't prescribed to Todd, and he was not clinically known

553
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 4>to be suffering from any form of depression at the

554
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 4>time he ended up in the lake. The note a

555
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 4>smiley face was painted on a tree near the spot

556
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 4>of the lake crew was found, and later on a

557
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 4>smiley face sticker was placed on his gravestone as well.

558
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Nobody knows who put it there now. Depending on who

559
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 4>you ask, some will say the smiley faced killer or

560
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 4>killers have taken the lives of more than forty young

561
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 4>college men with tons of potential throughout the course of

562
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 4>two decades. These were star athletes, those are above average intelligence,

563
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:32.640
<v Speaker 4>many with Germanic heritage. If you ask others, though, some

564
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.920
<v Speaker 4>may tell you there is no killer and there's something

565
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 4>else going on. Entirely, here is the case for there

566
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 4>being a killer responsible for all of these accidental groundings.

567
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 4>After all, how much can we talk up to coincidence

568
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 4>without our gut telling us something just isn't right. Between

569
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety seven and two thousand and eight, authorities across

570
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 4>eleven states and in more than twenty five cities removed

571
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 4>the bodies of more than forty white, young talented men

572
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 4>from local lakes and rivers, being pulled dead under very

573
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 4>suspicious circumstances out of bodies of water they had no

574
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 4>business or reason to be anywhere near. In fact, in

575
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 4>most cases, the young men who ended up in these

576
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.279
<v Speaker 4>watery graves would have had to go far out of

577
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 4>their way to reach these water sources. When considering where

578
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 4>they were last seen or said to be going.

579
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Almost all of them.

580
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Had been last seen either leaving or in a few

581
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 4>cases still in bars or clubs, and what looked to

582
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 4>be an inebriated state. As we've seen already, though and

583
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure we'll come across again, many of them weren't

584
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 4>actually even drinking that much, And almost none of them

585
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 4>did any kind of drugs either, despite the one drug

586
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 4>which keeps coming up over and over again, and i'm

587
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 4>sure will come up more upon, more thorough and in

588
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 4>foreign investigations. Yes, we're talking about GHB. Unfortunately, the authorities

589
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 4>responsible for investigating these tragic deaths have time and time

590
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 4>again concluded that and they're alleged and neborated and drunken

591
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 4>states these men have somehow accidentally fallen or ended up

592
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 4>in the water. However, as you will come to see

593
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 4>if you haven't already, they don't seem to be taking

594
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 4>into account all the evidence and are merely putting only

595
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 4>surface effort into closing these cases and finding out what

596
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 4>really happened. Even more tragically, this leaves the victims' families

597
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 4>to have to investigate the horrible deaths of their sons, brothers, nephews, uncles,

598
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 4>and even in some cases their fathers by themselves. This

599
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 4>is all the more tragic and all the more reason

600
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 4>we all need to start paying attention and putting it

601
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 4>all together, having it so all the evidence is included

602
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>in the investigation. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that's going

603
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 4>to happen anytime soon. In the cases which have already

604
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 4>been closed and deemed accidental, the police and investigators involved,

605
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 4>despite compelling new evidence in many of the cases, are

606
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 4>unwilling or unable to come forward and admit a mistake

607
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 4>was made. Therefore, are these families really receiving justice? Twenty

608
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 4>two out of these forty cases have had some form

609
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 4>of smiley faced symbol very near to where they were found. Coincidence,

610
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 4>you'd be the judge. Detective turned private investigator Kevin Gannon

611
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>and his partner Anthony Duarte don't think so, and have

612
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 4>set out on a mission to help these loved ones

613
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 4>find some real answers. Their take on the whole thing

614
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Smiley faced killers. They hypothesize that there is a group

615
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 4>of serial killers abducting these young men after drugging them

616
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 4>and somehow getting them to leave their group of friends behind.

617
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Usually without saying anything. Most of the time, it seems

618
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.119
<v Speaker 4>like these young men just get very inebraated, very quickly

619
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 4>and wander off accidentally because they don't know any better

620
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 4>at that point, or possibly are they lord away. One

621
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 4>of the investigators even commented about the alleged group of killers,

622
00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 4>they're psychopaths.

623
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 3>They have no remorse.

624
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>The case, that is the basis for most of their

625
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 4>theory and what kind of started it all is the

626
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 4>tragic death of Patrick McNeil. Patrick McNeil was a twenty

627
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 4>one year old Fordham University student in New York when

628
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 4>he went missing on February sixteenth, nineteen ninety seven. On

629
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 4>this night, Patrick was last seen leaving a bar called

630
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 4>The Dapper Dog, which is located in the Upper East

631
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Side of Manhattan. At this point in time, the world

632
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 4>had never heard of the smiley faced killer or killers,

633
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 4>and this seems to be the first documented case. Now

634
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 4>there are many conflicting reports about Patrick and what happened

635
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 4>the last night he was alive. It starts with some

636
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 4>witnesses stating that he was highly intoxicated and others saying

637
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 4>he barely had a drink. Frustrating, I know, but the

638
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 4>inconsistencies don't stop there. They should be mentioned here that

639
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 4>by the time Patrick and his college buddies decided The

640
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 4>Dapper Dog was going to be their main hangout spot,

641
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 4>this place already had numerous citations, not only for serving

642
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 4>customers who are visibly intoxicated in should probably have been

643
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 4>cut off, but also for serving to underage drinkers, so

644
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 4>not a very reputable establishment in the opinion of most.

645
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 4>One of Patrick's roommates, who it should be mentioned, didn't

646
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 4>like Patrick one bit, was the master of ceremonies. On

647
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 4>this particular night, Patrick wanted to show up, despite the

648
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 4>rift between him and this other kid, to try and

649
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 4>ease attention and possibly make peace by showing his support

650
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 4>as a possible friend and roommate. He didn't want the drama,

651
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 4>thought the guy might give him a break if he

652
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 4>showed up and win his support. It's also said, though,

653
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 4>that the main reason Patrick actually showed up wasn't because

654
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 4>he cared at all about this roommate who didn't even

655
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 4>like him, but because he was in charge of booking

656
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 4>entertainment acts for his university and was there for this reason. Again,

657
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 4>this is just some of the conflicting information which has

658
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 4>never been sorted through. Patrick had six roommates at Fordham

659
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 4>On campus, with him being number seven of the young men.

660
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 4>In one house. Of these young men, the aforementioned master

661
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 4>of ceremonies confessed publicly, both to his face andrals behind

662
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 4>his back, that he disliked Patrick because he was a womanizer.

663
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 4>The other student also alleged that he disliked Patrick because

664
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 4>he was always preening and cared too much about academic status. Indeed,

665
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 4>Patrick McNeil was known for being both attractive and studious.

666
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 4>Patrick was about six feet tall and one hundred and ninety

667
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 4>five pounds and took hay. He looked very seriously. He

668
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 4>took care of himself and worked out regularly. When Patrick

669
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 4>said goodbye to his friends and roommates that faithful night,

670
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 4>he informed them that he was going to hit the

671
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 4>subway and take the train back to the Bronx campus.

672
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Some witnesses sat Patrick was just standing out in front

673
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 4>of the bar.

674
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Allegedly, he stated.

675
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 4>He was waiting for a female friend to come and

676
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 4>take the subway with him. However, whether that's what he

677
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 4>was actually doing loitering in front of the bar for

678
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 4>a while or not, a female never turned up, and

679
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 4>after a while Patrick was back on his way again,

680
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 4>trying to get to campus called a knight. As Patrick

681
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 4>made his way south from the bar, several passers by,

682
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 4>and describes his state as falling over and stumbling. He

683
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 4>allegedly even fell to the ground several times, enough that

684
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 4>some motorists passing by stopped and offered to help him.

685
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 4>He refused to help each time and kept stumbling forward

686
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 4>on his way. These witnesses who allegedly saw him that

687
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 4>night in this drunken state also reported something else, something

688
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 4>very eerie and interesting. Given how this whole situation turned out,

689
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 4>There are more than several witnesses who came forward and

690
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 4>stated that they had observed a vehicle following Patrick from

691
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the time he walked out of the Daffer Dog until

692
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 4>he turned the corner at ninetieth Street and seemingly vanished

693
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 4>into thin air. Apparently this vehicle was so so suspicious

694
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 4>one of the other drivers on the road who had

695
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 4>observed what was going on had to mind to write

696
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 4>down a partial plate for the vehicle in question. When

697
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Patrick made the left on the nineteth Street and was

698
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 4>never seen again. It supported this vehicle made the left

699
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 4>as well. We must keep in mind here that in

700
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety seven, surveillance everywhere was just in its infancy,

701
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't everywhere you turned at that point like

702
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 4>it is today. It's worth mentioning that the vehicle was

703
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 4>never found or seen again either, even having the partial

704
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 4>license plate and reporting it to the police. Despite several

705
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 4>witnesses coming forward about this suspicious vehicle and what the

706
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 4>possible intended the driver could have been, the car was

707
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 4>never found. Patrick was found on April seventh, approximately twelve

708
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 4>miles before he was last seen. It was wearing only

709
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 4>socks and jeans. Multiple detectives and police officers, along with

710
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 4>some staff and the owners of the Dapper Dog, allegedly

711
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 4>made some pretty aggressively judgmental statements about Patrick. These derogatory

712
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 4>statements were made to the public and also to Patrick's

713
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 4>family insistence from the authorities that he was running away

714
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 4>from the females he impregnated. They also stated things like

715
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to be in college and is somewhere

716
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 4>being free of his responsibilities, and downright accused him of

717
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 4>being a heroin addict. Now, it's never been substantiated that

718
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Patrick had done any illicit drugs, had run away from

719
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 4>his problems, had gotten even one female pregnant, let alone.

720
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 4>A few were that he had any plans of not

721
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 4>finishing school. In fact, he was right on track to

722
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 4>achieving his ultimate goal, which was working for the FBI.

723
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 4>All of this, it seemed to many, was just the

724
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 4>police not wanting to have to deal with the search

725
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 4>because they had no leads and therefore no answers to

726
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Speaker 4>give the grieving family as to why the owners and

727
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 4>some staff of the bar he was last seen at

728
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 4>were also making character assassination statements against Patrick. Well, many

729
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 4>chalked that up to them not wanting to be in

730
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 4>the middle of a missing person's mystery on top of

731
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 4>all the other troubles they were in on a free

732
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:07.239
<v Speaker 4>regular basis. They all seemed to want to distance himself

733
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 4>from Patrick and his disappearance and eventual death. After all,

734
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Patrick McNeil's case had become one of the largest missing

735
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 4>persons cases in the.

736
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 3>City's history at that time.

737
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 4>All of this unproductiveness obviously wasn't getting anyone any closer

738
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>to finding Patrick or figuring out what had happened to him.

739
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Once they finally did discover his body, Multiple false reports

740
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 4>of a man matching his description being called in during

741
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 4>the few months when everyone was actually searching. Wasn't helping

742
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 4>matters either. Of course, none of these sightings have ever

743
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 4>been substantiated, and most likely, now that we know where

744
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 4>Patrick ended up, were not Patrick at all and had

745
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.199
<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with anything but wasting police of time.

746
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 4>NYPD Detective Kevin Gannon stated about Patrick's death, Patrick's death

747
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 4>was not an accidental drowning. He was stalked, abducted, held

748
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 4>for a period of time, murdered, and disposed of. Patrick Neil,

749
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 4>at least when speaking on the Smiley Face Killers, is

750
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 4>often referred to as victim zero. One last thing about

751
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 4>Patrick's autopsy which really stumped and even angered a lot

752
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 4>of people who were invested in the case and also

753
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 4>very frustrated with the investigating authorities. The coroner actually wrote

754
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 4>in the final report that Patrick's alcohol level was more

755
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 4>than a little, but less than a lot. What a

756
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 4>ludicrous statement once again, and made this statement about the

757
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 4>case and started filling the police in on all the

758
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 4>strange circumstances surrounding the death. The police did reopen the

759
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 4>case intentively started to reconsider it as a potential abduction

760
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 4>and murder, pending further investigation by the police. Again, it

761
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 4>had been reviewing the evidence and photos of the body

762
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 4>after his recover from the water, and he noticed that

763
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 4>due to skin slippage, it was highly unlikely Patrick had

764
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 4>been in the water in the entire couple months he

765
00:42:56.599 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 4>was missing, and it was much more likely that he

766
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 4>had only been in there a.

767
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Couple of days.

768
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Now this poses the obvious question of or was he

769
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 4>until then, or was he up until a few days

770
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 4>before he was found when it seemed he had entered

771
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 4>the water. Gannon and some experts he brought in to

772
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 4>help him review the photos and information, which he thought

773
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 4>were all very suspicious. We're also calling attention to the

774
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 4>fact that people who accidentally drown are found face up,

775
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 4>as Patrick was, and also they normally don't have ligature markings, specifically.

776
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 3>Rope burns around their necks.

777
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 4>There were also other markings that indicated some sort of

778
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 4>possible strangulation and or hanging scenario.

779
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 3>That happened before he's put in the water by his

780
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 3>murder or murderers.

781
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 4>According to Gannon's theory, at least many people believe the

782
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 4>most compelling evidence to back up the theory Patrick had

783
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 4>in fact been held and then killed and put into

784
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 4>the water. Are the findings of a renowned medical, legal,

785
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 4>and forensic pathologist who became a consultant on many of

786
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 4>these cases eventually, doctor Cyril wecked. Doctor Weck is very

787
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 4>well respected and regarded as top in his field. He

788
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 4>said about Patrick's body, I'm saying that the fly larvae

789
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 4>that had been laid in the growing area, it was

790
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 4>from an indoor fly and could not have been from

791
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 4>an outdoor fly. It was an indoor fly, and the

792
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 4>larva we was there did not move ahead into the

793
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 4>later stage. So we have a body that was already

794
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 4>dead before it was placed in the water. I would

795
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 4>call it a homicide.

796
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

797
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Gannon became the only friend in law enforcement to the

798
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 4>family who believed with Gannon that Patrick had indeed been murdered.

799
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Gannon believed Patrick would slipped something, in his opinion,

800
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 4>probably rowe, hypnol or GHB, both of which are extremely

801
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.719
<v Speaker 4>fast acting and both of which could cause the stumbling,

802
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 4>confusion and disorientation Patrick had been allegedly exhibiting once he

803
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 4>left the bar that night. This is what witnesses who

804
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:01.280
<v Speaker 4>saw him had reported. These substances are also broken down

805
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 4>very quickly and are basically untraceable in an autopsy, mainly

806
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 4>because even if they were in the system and it

807
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 4>hadn't been metabolized off yet, neither is automatically searched for

808
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the results for these two substances must be specifically made

809
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 4>and wouldn't be for someone considered to have accidentally ground

810
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 4>due to intoxication. Another angle Kevin Gannon was looking to

811
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 4>pursue was finding the owner and occupants of the storage

812
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:31.039
<v Speaker 4>vehicle multiple witnesses had reported was stalking and following Patrick

813
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 4>for the second he walked out of the bar till

814
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 4>the second he and the vehicle both turned left onto

815
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 4>nintieth Street. However, all of this speculation, as much sense

816
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.400
<v Speaker 4>as it made, was for nothing because it has never

817
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 4>been proven one way or the other what actually happened

818
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 4>to Patrick McNeil or why Twenty four years later and

819
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 4>we still have no tangible proof he was abducted and killed.

820
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Despite all this, police were convinced Patrick's death was to

821
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 4>as old of a series of unfortunate random events that

822
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 4>led the poor young man into the water that night.

823
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Case closed. It wasn't for lack of trying. Though, for

824
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 4>his part, I'd like to mention at least one more

825
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 4>thing Detective Gannon had tried to do to help in

826
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 4>the investigation, and that was requesting police do what is

827
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 4>called a lawman's search to determine the rest of the

828
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 4>characters on the partial plate they have been given on

829
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 4>the suspicious vehicle. The police in charge the case declined

830
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 4>Gannon's request, however, as they said the twelve hundred dollars

831
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 4>price tag was too much money, and also the time

832
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 4>and effort it would take on their department, which was

833
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 4>already stretched right then to begin with, would be a waste.

834
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 4>They refused to acknowledge any evidence of the contrary to

835
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 4>their initial statement and conclusion of the accidental drowning. This

836
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 4>is not the only case this has happened in, and actually,

837
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 4>if you dig deep enough in the forty plus cases

838
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 4>that have happened since Patrick's case in nineteen ninety seven,

839
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.159
<v Speaker 4>you will see that this has become a very familiar

840
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 4>and very unfortunate pattern. Now are the police, media, and

841
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 4>even the medical examiners involved so easily able to blow

842
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 4>off such compelling and tangible evidence. Well, that's the question,

843
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 4>isn't it. On April sixteenth, nineteen ninety seven, the Chief

844
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Medical Examiner for New York City, despite all the evidence

845
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 4>brought to him by Gannon himself, the experts Gannon brought in,

846
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 4>and even just the eyewitnesses to Patrick's condition on the

847
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 4>last night he was seen alive, concluded officially that Patrick

848
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 4>had died of accidental drowning, with cause of death still undetermined.

849
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Many involved, including the family, of course, had a very

850
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 4>hard time understanding that statement. Cause of death drowning, cause

851
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 4>of death undetermined, stated all in the same sentence.

852
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable.

853
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Next case you'd like to examine in depth, twenty four

854
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 4>year old Navy veteran William Hurley was attending a Bruin's

855
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 4>hockey game in Boston, Massachusetts, on April eighth, two thousand

856
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 4>and nine. William, as yet another young man who suddenly,

857
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>and without any reasonaby explanation, became very dizzy, disoriented, and

858
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 4>sick while simply sitting in his seat at the game.

859
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 4>He was feeling so terrible, in fact, he called his fiancee,

860
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Claire Mahoney, to come and pick him up. He'd attended

861
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 4>the hockey game with two friends and decided to leave

862
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 4>early because of how terrible he was feeling, and he

863
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 4>knew he had to work early in the morning. Anyway,

864
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 4>William Hurley walked outside and was supposed to wait for

865
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 4>Claire to arrive. When Claire arrived, however, William was no

866
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 4>hor in sight, despite them having agreed upon a specific

867
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 4>meeting place. She decided to call him and ask exactly

868
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 4>who he was, because she was right at the main

869
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 4>entrance and couldn't have been very far from him. She

870
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 4>was close by when he initially called, and it didn't

871
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 4>take long for her to originally get there. That was

872
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.119
<v Speaker 4>strange in itself, how quickly she had gotten there and

873
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 4>his not being there. According to Claire, when he answered

874
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 4>the phone, she heard him ask somebody where he was located,

875
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 4>and she heard an annoying male voice respond ninety nine

876
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 4>National Street, which William then relayed to her. He also

877
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 4>informed her that his phone was just about to die,

878
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:12.719
<v Speaker 4>so she may not be able to call him back.

879
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 4>Neither seemed very worried about this, and she was literally

880
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 4>just seconds away from the address he had just given her.

881
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.280
<v Speaker 4>When Claire pulled up in front of the National Street address, however,

882
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 4>William was once again not there. He was nowhere in sight.

883
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 4>She attempted to call him again, but his cell phone

884
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 4>must have died after all, because the call went straight

885
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 4>to voicemail without even ringing. Claire says she drove around

886
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 4>and around all throughout the stadium, Nashville Street in the

887
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 4>surrounding area for an entire hour before leaving and returning home.

888
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 4>She figured there was a miscommunication somehow, or because his

889
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 4>phone had died, William was never to let her know

890
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.760
<v Speaker 4>he'd gotten another ride. She assumed when she got home

891
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 4>he would be there. However he wasn't. Claire immediately reported

892
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 4>William missing, and several searches were conducted in the following days.

893
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Six days after he disappeared, however, Williams's body was found

894
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 4>in the Charles River, almost exactly even in the water

895
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 4>with the spot he had originally asked her to pick

896
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 4>him up from. Why wasn't he there when she got

897
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 4>there though? Who was the unknown man that gave William

898
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.760
<v Speaker 4>what most people think was the wrong location address. How

899
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.119
<v Speaker 4>did he get far enough away that Claire couldn't find

900
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:26.119
<v Speaker 4>any trace of him when she only had to make

901
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 4>a quick right hand turn from where she was When

902
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 4>she was on the phone with him the second time

903
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 4>to the address he gave her of National Street. According

904
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 4>to the official autopsy, William's death was ruled an undetermined drowning.

905
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 4>Investigators stated there was no signs of foul play, another

906
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 4>coincidental accident. However, William's mother wasn't satisfied with the investigation

907
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 4>or lack thereof in this case, or the coroner's findings,

908
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 4>so she obtained a copy of the report and gave

909
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 4>it to an outside position to examine what this outside

910
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 4>expert found a shocking considering who the official reports all stated.

911
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Stated that William had.

912
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Suffered blunt forced trauma to the head, behind his left

913
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 4>eye socket and on his left leg, So essentially, William

914
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 4>was severely beaten before entering the water. Additionally, when William's

915
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 4>cell phone was located, it was smashed to bits. There

916
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 4>was nowhere near the main entrance to the stadium or

917
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 4>the address on National Street, both of the places he'd

918
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 4>asked Claire to come.

919
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 3>And get him from.

920
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Many people wonder why there was no further search into

921
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 4>the mysterious man who gave William the address, why William's

922
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.320
<v Speaker 4>phone was smashed, or why he kept giving the wrong addresses.

923
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 4>No testing for GHB was done, and he had hardly

924
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 4>any alcohol in his system. What made William so sick,

925
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.400
<v Speaker 4>so suddenly, so disoriented and confused that he decided to

926
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.480
<v Speaker 4>leave the game early in the first place. All valid questions,

927
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.159
<v Speaker 4>all still without answers, And yes, a smiley face was

928
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 4>found painted somewhere near the river. Though the number of

929
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 4>alleged victims of this alleged killer or killers is officially

930
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.639
<v Speaker 4>in most reports lists of forty, that's only between nineteen

931
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 4>ninety seven and twenty ten, there have been even more

932
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 4>recent cases, and some say the number is as high

933
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 4>as one hundred or more. For some, this widely unaccepted

934
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 4>theory only took place between the above mentioned twenty three years. However,

935
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 4>if you look beyond the year twenty twenty, you'll find

936
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 4>many more strange and suspicious deaths, which made all the

937
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 4>crackhire for the theory that Detective Kevin Gannon came out

938
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 4>of retirement to investigate. Imagine, if there really is a

939
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 4>group of killers out there going around and abducting our

940
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 4>nation's young, fit, and intelligent men. All the victims were

941
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 4>exceptional in some way or another. How can this possibly

942
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 4>be a coincidence? Though the victims of these alleged serial

943
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 4>killers are almost all exclusively Caucasian.

944
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 3>There are certain exceptions.

945
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 4>This particular exception is almost more bizarre and tragic than

946
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 4>any of the others we've discussed. Let's take a look

947
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 4>at Gelanni Dante Brinton. Because of his race that being

948
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 4>African American, many people are even more baffled by Jilani's death.

949
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Even some of those who believe in Themiley Faced Killer's

950
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 4>theory wholeheartedly have a hard time deciding if they believe

951
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 4>this case is connected. In the book case Studies in

952
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Drowning Forensics, the authors list Jilanni as a victim of

953
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:29.920
<v Speaker 4>their theorized killers. On April seventeenth, two thousand and nine,

954
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Jelanni and a coworker from his job at Sprint in

955
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Brooklyn Park drove to another friend and co worker's house

956
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 4>in a Naka after work. The very next day, when

957
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 4>he failed to return home, his mother reported Jelani as missing.

958
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 4>The search was conducted of the immediate area of the

959
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 4>friend's house in Annaka on Kennedy Street, where he was

960
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.119
<v Speaker 4>last seen the night of the search. And stocking cap

961
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 4>in one shoe were found in a neighbor's yard that Sunday,

962
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 4>after what she'd been missing for two days, and the

963
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 4>day after his shoe and cap were found. His other

964
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 4>shoe was located outside of a nearby business. About a

965
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 4>week later, at the green Haven golf Course in Anaka,

966
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 4>Jelani's body was found in a pond. This golf course

967
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 4>was a very short distance from Jelani's friend's house, where

968
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 4>he was last seen alive. The official autopsy stated Jelani

969
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 4>was placed in the water anywhere from twelve to twenty

970
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 4>hours after he died, so again, this begs the question

971
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 4>where was he for the rest of the time. Investigators

972
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 4>spoke with the last three men to have been with Jelanni,

973
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and while they initially cooperated, they all gave conflicting statements

974
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and some are no longer being cooperative with the authorities.

975
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 4>All three men did state, however, that Jelani was only

976
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 4>in the home for less than five minutes, and all

977
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.440
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden he got up and took off, running.

978
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Out of the residence into the dark knight.

979
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 4>They claimed this was the last time anyone has ever

980
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 4>seen him alive. Geiulanni had a daughter at the time,

981
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 4>and while he didn't know it, he was about to

982
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 4>become a father again to his son, who would be.

983
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Named after him.

984
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Many people speculate that there are per of interest in

985
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 4>this case, being the last three men to be with him,

986
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 4>that this cannot possibly be a case of the smiley

987
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.800
<v Speaker 4>faced killers. Some, on the other hand, beg to differ.

988
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Nobody knows if the theory about the group of killers

989
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 4>is real, let alone.

990
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Who is involved.

991
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 4>What if one or possibly all of the men he

992
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 4>was with last are involved somehow in the killings of

993
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 4>all or most of the men? What is the theory

994
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 4>on how these killers operate? That differs depending on who

995
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:30.880
<v Speaker 4>you ask. The theory most widely speculated about is the

996
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 4>dark web theory. This theory goes that there's a group

997
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 4>of people all throughout the United States and possibly other

998
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.800
<v Speaker 4>countries as well. England's can now push her in Manchester

999
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 4>that are somehow operating deep in the dark web. They're

1000
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 4>so tech savvy and careful that whatever their communication is,

1001
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 4>it's undetectable. This is all, of course, pure speculation and

1002
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 4>a general overview of a much larger theory in case

1003
00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 4>studies of droughting forensics. The authors go on to theorize

1004
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 4>that not only is this a group of very meticulous

1005
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 4>and well coordinated killers pulling off extremely efficient murders across

1006
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 4>the Midwest and Northeast. But that actually more than one

1007
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 4>thousand people may be participating in these crimes. Yes, that's

1008
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 4>what they conjecture, one thousand killers. They're all in inter

1009
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.440
<v Speaker 4>ex communication one another somehow. Now the dark web is

1010
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 4>a strong possibility. These people are believed to be broken

1011
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 4>down into smaller subgroups, if you will, or cells of

1012
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:32.679
<v Speaker 4>twelve to fifteen across multiple cities. While this may seem

1013
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 4>totally far afetched to some, to others, it's as horrifying

1014
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 4>as it is fascinating, as terrifying as it is interesting.

1015
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Could a group of human beings really be disorganized and

1016
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 4>adept be able to kill possibly one hundred or more

1017
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 4>physically fit and above average integent young men and do

1018
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 4>it with one hundred percent efficiency and accuracy as to

1019
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.920
<v Speaker 4>not leave any trace of themselves or their organization behind.

1020
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 4>In these days of touch DNA to be able to

1021
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 4>do this for more than thirty years now, many believe

1022
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 4>it's not only possible but likely. When we as a

1023
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 4>society think of murder, usually we think perhaps the crimes

1024
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 4>of passion, while most of us would never go so

1025
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 4>far as to commit a murder under any circumstances. At

1026
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 4>least a crime of rage or jealousy is somewhat understandable.

1027
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Serial killers, though, are still incomprehensible, if not captivating. There

1028
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 4>are those who point to things such as the smiley

1029
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 4>faces found near the bodies, all being of different type

1030
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 4>and size, with color, et cetera. Also, which many of

1031
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 4>them were put near the bodies, have never been able

1032
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 4>to conclusively be determined. This means that a smiley face,

1033
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.840
<v Speaker 4>which by the way, is possibly the most popular or

1034
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 4>freedi symbol of the United States and has been since

1035
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 4>the hippy days of the nineteen sixties, could have been

1036
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 4>there for years before the body was put or at

1037
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.960
<v Speaker 4>least found in these nearby water sources. Maybe they are

1038
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 4>even in some cases put there after someone trying to

1039
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 4>fuel the theory. Could this be the case, or are

1040
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 4>the smiley killers just taunting law enforcement by putting them

1041
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 4>in place later. Could the Smiley faced killers theory have

1042
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.559
<v Speaker 4>actually created the smiley faced killers in the first place.

1043
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Could this, as some people speculate, have in fact put

1044
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 4>the idea to organize and kill in a group of

1045
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 4>messed up individuals heads. Think about it, though, Why else

1046
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 4>would the victimology suddenly change? At first, and for decades,

1047
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 4>the victims are always Caucasian, no exceptions. Now we're seeing

1048
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 4>all different races and even a handful of openly gave

1049
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 4>victims for the first time. Is one theory beginning another?

1050
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Maybe someday we'll know, but probably not if there are

1051
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 4>no investigators willing to do the work it's going to

1052
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 4>take to catch these possible maniacs. Is there such a

1053
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 4>focus on debunking the smiley face aspect that the people

1054
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:52.639
<v Speaker 4>in charge are ignoring practically smoking gun evidence simply to

1055
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 4>not want to give attention to the graffiti. Are these

1056
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 4>investigators not doing their jobs when everything about these cases,

1057
00:58:58.559 --> 00:58:59.800
<v Speaker 4>even on the face.

1058
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:00.599
<v Speaker 3>Is all wrong.

1059
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 4>The similarities in all these cases goes well beyond being

1060
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 4>a mere coincidence. It couldn't get more cookie cutter in style.

1061
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 4>It's almost embarrassing. Some say, how obvious it is these

1062
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.440
<v Speaker 4>are serial murders taking place when the police just smile

1063
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 4>on the face of the families and feign ignorance.

1064
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh he got too drunken drowned. We don't think so.

1065
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 4>With all this being said, let's take one more look, folks,

1066
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 4>a look at what many believed to be a possible

1067
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:33.000
<v Speaker 4>survivor of the Smiley Faced Killers. On January eighth, two

1068
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.320
<v Speaker 4>thousand and six, at around seven o'clock in the morning,

1069
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>a twenty one year old named Colin Fortney walked into

1070
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 4>the hospital emergency room in Lacrosse, Wisconsin. Culin was disheveled,

1071
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 4>soaking wet, and his feet were picked with mud. The

1072
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 4>young man seemed to be a bit confused and exhausted,

1073
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 4>but for the most part, had his wits about him.

1074
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.719
<v Speaker 4>He was wearing no coat and no shoes on a

1075
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:58.559
<v Speaker 4>January morning in Wisconsin. That's freezing cold weather for him

1076
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 4>to be in this state of andres According to hospital staff,

1077
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 4>he had stated he had fallen into the river somehow,

1078
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 4>but couldn't remember when or even how it had happened.

1079
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Colin was a student at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

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01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 4>The night before, he had a few friends had taken

1081
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 4>a cab to some bars to have a night out

1082
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 4>drinking and having some fun. Some speculate the bar they

1083
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:21.559
<v Speaker 4>spent the most time at is as a bar where

1084
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 4>another theorized victim of the Smiley Faced Killers went missing,

1085
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 4>but this hasn't been confirmed. Colin later told police that

1086
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 4>he left the bars at around one forty five am,

1087
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 4>when he somehow became separated from two of the friends

1088
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.960
<v Speaker 4>he was supposed to be leaving with, Jay Larson and

1089
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Jay Hoffland. He stated he couldn't remember anything after walking

1090
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 4>out of the bar and realizing he wasn't with his

1091
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 4>friends anymore. The next thing he knew, he was traveling

1092
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.079
<v Speaker 4>rapidly downstream and fighting an extremely rough current in the

1093
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 4>nearby river. After what probably felt like an eternity, but

1094
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 4>he estimated it was actually about fifteen minutes, Colin stated

1095
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 4>he was somehow able to gather this drink to grab

1096
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 4>on to some kind of concrete structure and pull himself

1097
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.440
<v Speaker 4>out of the river. He said he remembers nothing after

1098
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 4>this again until he woke up some time later near

1099
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 4>the hospital he eventually checked himself into. He claims to

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01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.000
<v Speaker 4>have lost his hat, coat, shoes, cell phone, and twenty

1101
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 4>dollars cash. Somehow, he still had his wallet. Though the

1102
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 4>doctors were able to figure out what Colin's blood alcohol

1103
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 4>level was at the time he left the bar somehow

1104
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 4>by checking what it was at nine am the same morning,

1105
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 4>a few hours after he initially entered the hospital and

1106
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 4>started telling his bizarre story. They determined his blood alcohol

1107
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 4>content would have been point zero one sixty three at

1108
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.079
<v Speaker 4>the time he left the bar one forty five am.

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01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 4>The police were eventually able to recover some of the

1110
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 4>items Calin stated he had lost when they searched the river.

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01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.199
<v Speaker 4>The family believes in the investigators wholeheartedly when they said

1112
01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 4>no foul play was involved and that Colin simply had

1113
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 4>a misadventure while drunk. Had the thirty two degree water

1114
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 4>gotten him all the way under, this story may have

1115
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 4>had a more tragic ending. Colin's family say they feel

1116
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 4>the police did an outstanding job in investigating what happened

1117
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 4>to him. However, there was a very odd twist in

1118
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.199
<v Speaker 4>this case. The police passed it off as a series

1119
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 4>of coincidence, but some aren't so sure. Allegedly, one of

1120
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:16.920
<v Speaker 4>the young men who had been at the bar with

1121
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 4>Colin that night also ended up at the same hospital, unconscious,

1122
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 4>in not remembering how he'd gotten there or anything before

1123
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 4>leaving the bar that night after being separated from Colin. Also,

1124
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 4>there's a very confusing and vague reference to a stolen

1125
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 4>truck on CCTV, which just to sum it up, alleged

1126
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 4>that someone stole a van and indeed was caught trying

1127
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 4>to kidnap either Colin or's friend. Many believed this person

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01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 4>to be one of the SFKS Smiley Faced Killers. I

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01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:50.280
<v Speaker 4>highly encourage you all to do your own research so

1130
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:52.400
<v Speaker 4>as to be able to make informed decisions about coming

1131
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.400
<v Speaker 4>to your own conclusions about these cases mentioned above and

1132
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:57.639
<v Speaker 4>the many many more out there were the same exact

1133
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 4>circumstances and alleged set accince sent. While we have investigated

1134
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:05.320
<v Speaker 4>and talked at lengthd about the deaths allegedly caused by

1135
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.519
<v Speaker 4>the Smiley Faced Killers and one possible survivor of this

1136
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 4>mob of fiends, there is yet another element all this,

1137
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 4>those who were never found. There are quite a few

1138
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 4>cases where a young man who fits the profile of

1139
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:20.719
<v Speaker 4>the Smiley Face Killer victims goes missing, never to be

1140
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 4>seen or heard from again. One such case is the

1141
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 4>case of Nathan Andrew Edburg. On the night of April fourteenth,

1142
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.320
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety nine, Nathan was last seen leaving Decoy's Bar

1143
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:35.280
<v Speaker 4>and Grille on Fourth Street in White Bear Lake, Minnesota.

1144
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Nobody there that night could remember the last time they

1145
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 4>had seen him or what time. He had left shortly

1146
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 4>after he was last seen, and the exact date and

1147
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 4>time are unknown. Nathan's pickup truck was found in a ditch.

1148
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 4>There was no sign of him at the scene where

1149
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.880
<v Speaker 4>the truck was found, and according to investigators, there was

1150
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 4>no sign of foul play. What they did come across, though,

1151
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 4>were a few footprints heading east away from the accident's site.

1152
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Authorities said it appeared as though Nathan missed the turn

1153
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 4>onto the highway and ended up in the ditch. He

1154
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 4>has never been seen or heard from again. The bartender

1155
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 4>at Decoys told authorities Nathan was a regular customer in

1156
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 4>the place and most of the staff knew who he was.

1157
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 4>He stated Nathan had arrived that night at around seven

1158
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 4>thirty pm and ordered a beer. The bartender claimed that

1159
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 4>Edburgh was much happier than he had been on previous

1160
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 4>visits to the establishment. This is considered relevant because, according

1161
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.519
<v Speaker 4>to those closest to him, Nathan was dealing with some

1162
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 4>serious depression in April nineteen ninety nine due to a

1163
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 4>bunch of different things going on in his life. His

1164
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 4>parents were divorcing, he'd lost both his job and his

1165
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 4>longtime girlfriend, and he was living with his cousin because

1166
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 4>he couldn't afford his own place. His parents hadn't even

1167
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 4>thought to report him missing until they somehow received news

1168
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:51.199
<v Speaker 4>of the truck had been impounded for several days when

1169
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 4>they hadn't heard from him, They just assumed he needed

1170
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 4>some space to work through his issues and would be

1171
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.199
<v Speaker 4>back around when he was ready. They were trying to

1172
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.480
<v Speaker 4>give him this space, knowing what he was going going through.

1173
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.599
<v Speaker 4>His case remains unsolved to this day, and while police

1174
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 4>are still actively looking for him, he is only considered

1175
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:11.000
<v Speaker 4>a missing person at this point. The police insists there

1176
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 4>is no evidence of foul play at the crash site.

1177
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.719
<v Speaker 4>Many people speculate, however, that this may very well be

1178
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:21.000
<v Speaker 4>a case of the Smiley Faced Killers. The close proximity

1179
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.400
<v Speaker 4>from where he was last seen where his pickup was

1180
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.639
<v Speaker 4>found to the water strikes him as suspicious at the

1181
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 4>very least. Also, the direction of the footprints were headed

1182
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.280
<v Speaker 4>leading away from the crash area. We're headed in the

1183
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 4>direction of the nearby water source as well. Could the

1184
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 4>police just innsotantly not be putting all this together, or

1185
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.480
<v Speaker 4>are they purposely downplaying one of the few cases of

1186
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:42.840
<v Speaker 4>the Smiley Faced Killers that.

1187
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 3>They can due to lack of a body.

1188
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.079
<v Speaker 4>Nathan's father unfortunately passed away in two thousand and one,

1189
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 4>but his mother is still looking for answers and praying

1190
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 4>to see her.

1191
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Son one day.

1192
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, folks, there you have it. What do you think

1193
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 4>of this theory? Now, again, this is just a theory.

1194
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 4>It's neither been proven nor disproven. Although I've heard very

1195
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 4>strong opinions on either side of the fence, I think

1196
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.039
<v Speaker 4>it does bear looking into. Surely there can't be this

1197
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 4>many coincidences, considering the type of young man, where they were,

1198
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 4>how they were found, seems like something nefarious is a

1199
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 4>foot here. I look forward to reading your comments on

1200
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 4>this one, but please be respectful and friendly. Meanwhile, be

1201
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 4>good to yourselves and each other. Be safe when you

1202
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 4>go out, always let somebody know where you're going when

1203
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you plan to return, and be aware of your surroundings.

1204
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll see you just a little farther down the trail.

1205
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to you next time.
