WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:06.639 Sunday Night, Granary Live a little National, Little War on Drugs. 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:10.000 My next guest will be there, as will I. I've 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:11.480 got to say, I'm a little bummed out that the 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:12.839 lineup is what it is. 5 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:14.800 As far as who's going first and who's going second? 6 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:17.640 Right, because War on Drugs is opening and National is closing? 7 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:19.559 Is that correct? That's my understanding. 8 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.000 Guess that doesn't feel right to me. 9 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:23.760 I mean, there'll be a lot of sad dads. 10 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.440 Either way, and I know what that term means. At 11 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:29.320 this point in my life, I do know what sad 12 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.320 dad means. Aaron Falk, the editor of the sports section 13 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:34.880 for the Solid Tribune. Is it look the National has 14 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.200 been around longer? Is that what it is? It just 15 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.119 feels like these days war on Drugs is bigger. 16 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.880 Well, you know, the National, they've collapsed with Phoebe, with Taylor. 17 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.880 You know there's crossover appeal here, so you know, I 18 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.799 think they are maybe a step above. 19 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.399 That's fair, and you know, while we're in this space, 20 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:56.719 of course, was it last year when Phoebe came downtown 21 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:57.439 or two years ago? 22 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:00.799 I don't remember, but I remember that we were the 23 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.679 oldest people. 24 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:05.439 There, A young a very young person came up to 25 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.079 me and said, hey, aren't you Spence check Its And 26 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.040 I said yes, and he said, my dad loves you 27 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.040 at the Phoebe show, So I'm probably in for some 28 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.599 more of this coming up on Sunday Night. 29 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:17.480 In a couple of years, it was like, will be 30 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.719 didn't you used to be Spencer Jeens? You know? 31 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.840 And then I already feel that way, but you know, 32 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.159 what are you gonna do? We're aging hope to see 33 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.000 you guys on Sunday night. It'll be a great show, 34 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:31.640 all right, Aaron. Let's start with a historic week for 35 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.840 a couple of different reasons, some good, some bad. The 36 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.079 bad is the capital City said good bye to the 37 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.799 Bees after thirty years of Smith's Ballpark in almost one 38 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.040 hundred years of history of minor league baseball in Salt 39 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.760 Lake City, it now belongs to our friends out south. 40 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.280 At daybreak went to a couple of games this year. 41 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:49.879 Wasn't able to make it out over the weekend. I 42 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:51.799 know that you did. We talked to Tony Parks a 43 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.640 couple of times to promote the games and also to 44 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.840 recap them. What are your thoughts now that it's official 45 00:01:57.879 --> 00:01:59.319 the Bees are moving down South? 46 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.959 Yeah? I mean, I look at it. There are a 47 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:03.959 couple of different lenses that I would look at this with, 48 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.480 and one is like a very personal you know, Salt 49 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.800 Laker like we you know, we live in you know, 50 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.560 in the neighborhood roughly, and so you feel a personal 51 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:17.599 connection to grew up going to those games. It's nearby. 52 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.639 There's history there almost one hundred years, like the people 53 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.199 that have passed through that block, you know, not that stadium, 54 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.520 exactly what that block. It's kind of an incredible roster 55 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.840 in terms of of baseball history in Salt Lake City. 56 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.960 And so to see that go is very sad. And 57 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:37.280 then at the same time, I think, you know, if 58 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.080 you can, if you can get outside of yourself and 59 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.199 zoom out a little bit and you look at where's 60 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.560 the growth in the valley. It's on the south end. 61 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.120 Was I was there. I was in an impossibly long 62 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:52.560 beer line on Sunday with you know, thirteen thousand, five 63 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.400 hundred other people, and a woman came walking through the 64 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.520 concourse screaming, if you'd all been here every week, this 65 00:02:58.560 --> 00:02:59.400 wouldn't be happening. 66 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.919 And you know what, maybe maybe maybe, And. 67 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.039 So I think, you know, you look at at what 68 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.719 the Millers have done, and yes it is. It is 69 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.240 sad for me to see that go. But to move 70 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.960 out to Daybreak, a younger audience, a different type of audience, 71 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.960 a smaller stadium, you know it, it may very well 72 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.840 be what's best for a minor league franchise, particularly if 73 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:26.240 they are truly serious about adding major league franchise in downtown. Right. 74 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.199 And then I think you look at it from a 75 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.520 Salt Lake City standpoint, in that neighborhood, which is, you know, 76 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:38.439 as it's issues just from a socioeconomic standpoint, and to 77 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.960 go and maybe you know it sounds like the U 78 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.039 is going to play there next year, but beyond that, 79 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:45.639 you know, to have a place that's going to be active, 80 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.039 it's probably gonna be shops, apartments, whatever. I don't know. 81 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:49.719 The city hasn't decided yet, but it's going to be 82 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:52.479 active three hundred and sixty nights a year, right, and 83 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.919 not and not just for baseball season, and not just 84 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.560 for six days at the time every other week. And 85 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.800 so I think there there can be good that can 86 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:00.560 come out of it. 87 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.759 Still a bummer, yeah, it is, And I've said this 88 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.759 ever since the news came down. I mean, we're all 89 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.199 going to react to news like this based off of 90 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.000 how it affects us. And the fact that I can 91 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.879 get dismissed ballpark in ten minutes without traffic is something 92 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:15.520 that affects me. 93 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:15.840 Now. 94 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.079 I also go to four or five games a year, right, 95 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:23.040 And so ultimately, I wonder what your thoughts are. I've 96 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.680 never been a daybreak, not one time. I don't like 97 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:30.040 going past thirty third. I prefer staying here. But I've 98 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.439 never been a daybreak one time. I've never been a 99 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:37.240 daybreak one time. And I wonder if you believe that 100 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.199 this new club will be supported in its new home. 101 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.639 I just don't know enough about the infrastructure kind of 102 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:44.079 what it's like. 103 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.639 Yeah, I think that it can be. I think it's 104 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:48.720 going to be a much younger crowd. It's going to 105 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:52.079 be a different crowd right now. It's yes, it is families. 106 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.360 It's also people looking to get a beer outside, right, 107 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.160 And I think Daybreak is going to be very heavy 108 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.480 on family youth. I could say, see, you know, like 109 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.399 Little League Baseball teams filling that place up a lot. 110 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.279 It's gonna be a much smaller stadium, right, something like 111 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.839 eight thousand versus the fifteen thousand it is now, and 112 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:12.959 it's gonna be different from what I understand. There's gonna 113 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.319 be more of a beer garden set up and not 114 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.519 like you know, it's not gonna be at your seat, 115 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:22.560 So families that may feel uncomfortable in a I don't 116 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.319 know watching someone else drink a beer. I don't know. 117 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.399 It's not me, but you know, there may be more 118 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.439 opportunity there. And then you know whatever, the secret Lives 119 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.360 of Mormon wives crowd that comes from from that corner 120 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.319 is gonna be there and they're gonna be doing tiktoks 121 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:38.199 and they're gonna it's gonna be big. I don't know, 122 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:39.199 it could be good. 123 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.120 Are you aware that I'm related to a couple on 124 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:42.560 that show? 125 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.920 Which one I don't. I will not stay on air. 126 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.120 We'll leave it off air for now. Okay, I'll tell 127 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.000 you off air. I have not seen the show, nor 128 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.959 will I. I'm not gonna see a moment of it. 129 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:53.800 But anyway, my head is all over the place with 130 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.600 that breakdown, avoid the very appearance of evil Aeron. 131 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.920 So they head on out to daybreak. 132 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.560 Let's move over here though, because after the Miller's kind 133 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.040 of announced the plan and it went through the process. 134 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.959 Steve Starks came in a studio for an hour and 135 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:11.160 on air we talked a lot about the plan, and 136 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.800 then off air he opened up the books and showed 137 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.399 me like, and they're ready. 138 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.639 They're ready, you know, shoveling the ground ready. 139 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:21.199 I just haven't heard anything recently about if there's progress 140 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:24.240 being made, Because to your point, if the endgame of 141 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.480 moving the B's to daybreak is a ball major League 142 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.519 ballpark here in Salt Lake City and a Major League 143 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.199 Baseball team in the Capitol City, I'm all for that, 144 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.319 But I just what you're understanding of where we're at 145 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:34.839 that production. 146 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.560 We're still ages away from a decision, you know. I mean, 147 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.399 just looking at at what Rob Manfreend has said about 148 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.439 Major League Baseball expansion, it's status quo right right. We're 149 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.480 waiting for I don't know exactly if Major LEAUE Baseball 150 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.439 will wait until stadiums are built in Tampa and in 151 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.800 Las Vegas or wherever the A's end up, because it's 152 00:06:55.800 --> 00:07:00.160 still kind of seems sketchy there. But you know, at 153 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.199 this point, it sounds like maybe the earliest of whatever 154 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:07.720 expansion team is playing, whether that's Nashville here, Portland, wherever. 155 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.199 It's not gonna until twenty thirty points, right, We got 156 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:11.360 a pretty big gap here. 157 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:11.800 Yeah. 158 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.639 And it's funny because Gary Bettman said the same thing 159 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.480 about hockey expansion, and so I was off operating off 160 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:23.079 the premise like, Okay, Ryan wants hockey, Millers want baseball. 161 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.000 We're probably looking at twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty 162 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.959 for both. That's what makes the hockey thing so crazy, 163 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.439 because this is not an expansion team. It's a relocation. 164 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.279 It's literally historic. We chatted with Bell. She's lovely, she's 165 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.120 very good. You've hired a new b rider for the trip. 166 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.639 We've seen a couple of preseason games, couple of power 167 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.000 play goals, a couple of power play kills. We saw 168 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.639 in interference with a goaltender, which is like off sides 169 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.680 in soccer. You only know it when you're trained to 170 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.319 see it. It'll it's okay, you'll catch up. What are 171 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:52.839 your thoughts? 172 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:53.480 Hockey's here? 173 00:07:53.879 --> 00:08:00.800 Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I am learning. So I've got 174 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.040 a really good friend here. Yeah, so I'm learning the 175 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:06.480 higher Belfraser is good. 176 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.000 For me because she knows a lot more about it 177 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:09.040 than I do. 178 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.959 And so I'm I'm learning through this process as well, 179 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.879 but I've been encouraged by the excitement around. I think 180 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.199 the interesting thing right now for me is, you know, 181 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.160 just kind of being around the gateway and the arena 182 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.560 the other night when when that game and I wasn't there, 183 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.240 but you see so many different jerseys, you know, Bruins 184 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.959 jerseys and Golden Knights jerseys, all these things, and I'm 185 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:36.840 wondering how long before you know it's Utah hockey fans 186 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.879 and not Utah hockey. Good point, Yeah, and that that's 187 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:42.799 right now. It feels a little bit more like people 188 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:45.840 are die hard for the sport and they're they're coming 189 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.759 in and showing up versus having, you know, the team 190 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.480 to really coalesce around. Given the season ticket deposits that 191 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.240 we've heard about and everything like that, I suspect that's 192 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.759 going to happen once you know things, once the lamp 193 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.399 lights for real, there you go. I believe the electric. 194 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.679 Look at you bell has been a good influence. 195 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.200 I like this, but yeah, right now, right now, it 196 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:08.879 still feels like I feel like people are just kind 197 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:09.879 of putting their toe with sure. 198 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.159 Sure now the sweaters are pretty clean though they are, Yeah, 199 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.720 they are a lot of a lot of excitement around 200 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:15.639 town about the sweaters. 201 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:19.120 That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, and I don't actually I'm 202 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.480 a fan. I mean, I you know, get nice and clean. 203 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:23.600 Uh keep it simple for see. 204 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:25.360 I have your Twitter pulled up. I haven't seen any 205 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:29.480 tweets about how clean the sweaters are. Uh, yeah, they're 206 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:29.840 not there. 207 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:31.840 I've been I've been liking them. You can't see the likes. 208 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.039 Can you not? Did you want to take away? Take 209 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:34.720 away the likes? 210 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:36.320 You can like? You just can't see it. 211 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:37.320 I didn't know that. 212 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:38.279 I protect a few people. 213 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:39.600 That's good news for a few. 214 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:40.279 People in our market. 215 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:41.440 There's no doubt about that. 216 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.600 All right, let's do a little We'll do a little 217 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.080 jazz because I do have a well, we're gonna end 218 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:53.120 with mostly college football after this. From my vantage point, 219 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:57.360 this is as low of an excitement level as I 220 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.720 can remember, like ever about it jazz season. 221 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:01.000 Now. 222 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.399 I wonder if the hockey team will be able to 223 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.440 capitalize on that. Look, they're under one umbrella, so it's 224 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.080 not like you're stealing business from one cut. 225 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.200 It's the same company, it's the same ownership group. 226 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:13.919 Do you think there's gonna be a dynamic and look, 227 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.120 one of the great things about sports, one of the 228 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.559 things we love about sports, it's why we watch, is 229 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:19.120 you never. 230 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:19.759 Know what's gonna happen. 231 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.000 Could Cody Williams pop in a way that no one's 232 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.639 Maybe I'm not excited to watch the Patti Millster U 233 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:27.679 Banks pick and roll seven times in the third quarter, 234 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.320 Like it's just not there. And I wonder if you 235 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.720 think the hockey club will benefit off of what I 236 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:35.960 perceived to be a very low level of excitement for 237 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.159 pro basketball in our market. 238 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.159 I'm with you there on the excitement level. I saw 239 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:45.879 the email come out that you know, preseasons here, Ryan Smith, 240 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:49.000 Danny Ainge are talking to the press on Friday, and 241 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.120 I'm like, what do I care about right now? And 242 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.240 it's long term. Everything is long term. I agree with you. You know, 243 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:00.799 can Keyante take another step? What is Cody william There 244 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.000 are questions to be answered, but man, you got to 245 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.039 be kind of a die hard to really care about 246 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:09.279 those questions immediately, And so I agree with you. I 247 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.279 don't think, you know, I think if the Jazz were 248 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.200 a playoff team, then there's gonna be people that are 249 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.279 diehard Jazz fans. They don't give their attention to anything else, 250 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:21.360 maybe just sort of out of curiosity. I think you're 251 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.240 a sports fan in the Salt Lake market and football 252 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.039 ends and you're watching a bad jazz team, and you go, 253 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.120 what's going on with this other thing that I hear 254 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.360 that is winning? I think there. I think it is 255 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.080 an opening for the Utah Hockey Club to steal a 256 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.039 little bit of a momentum that they might not have 257 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:36.639 had otherwise. 258 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:38.200 So you bring up a really good point. 259 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:42.279 And I've honestly always wondered this, because you know, when 260 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.440 you're in when you get in the business, the industry, 261 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.600 as they say, you have to become a little bit 262 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.720 agnostic about cheering. And it probably took me to if 263 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.639 I'm honest, it probably took me too long doing this 264 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.679 to realize that. I think I'm much better at it 265 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:57.480 now that I don't care about. I hate to say that, 266 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.200 but if a team that I cheer for loses, I 267 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.039 have a sandwich and go to bed and I don't 268 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:04.720 think about it again. And when I was younger, it 269 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:06.879 was different. I had more emotional ties. It's different when 270 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.200 you're raised and it's the family business and you know 271 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.840 you're cheering literally with your heart and soul because it's 272 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.000 what your family relies on to live. But as you 273 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.559 move out of that, you do wonder, at least I do, 274 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:21.559 how many of our citizens here in the community who 275 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:23.519 enjoy sports just want to go see the jazz and 276 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.679 they don't care if it's Keyante or if it's Donovan Mitchell. 277 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:29.639 Like, how many ultimate. 278 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:33.559 Die hards out there are upset with lack of direction 279 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.360 and how many people just want. 280 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:36.679 To go to a damn game. I honestly don't know 281 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:37.200 the answer to that. 282 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.559 Yeah, I think. I think if you have been through 283 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.480 a period of jazz success, you know, at different points 284 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:45.759 in your life, whether you are somebody you know, if 285 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:49.200 you're we're around to watch watch the finals runs, if 286 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.600 you were around to watch you know, Darren and Carlos, 287 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.759 if you were around to watch this this Donovan Rudy era. 288 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:57.279 I think maybe, I think there are people out there 289 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.759 that will have enough good memories that you know, hey, 290 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.440 this is this is my team. I'm here through thick 291 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:07.399 and thin whatever. I think. Casuals, sure, I mean, maybe 292 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:08.960 they're go because you want to get you want to 293 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.159 get some jade dogs and and and hang out with 294 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.960 your friends. For sure, one night for one game. But 295 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.879 I think there's a ton of young kids who already 296 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.320 have a hard time getting into sports the way that 297 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.000 we have had sports in our life growing up. They're 298 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.399 watching highlights on YouTube and they're not really paying attention 299 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.480 that if you don't have a winner like you're you're 300 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.039 not connecting with with that younger generation, and so I 301 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.759 think that's that's sort of the misopportunity. But I think 302 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.200 if you are somebody that's that's been through it, you 303 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.639 can probably endure a couple of bad years here. We're 304 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.360 nice fans, We are nice people, nice fans, and people 305 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.879 will swallow it for a little while. But if you're 306 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.279 if you haven't had it before, you're not going to 307 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:49.799 be a twelve year old kid that goes to the 308 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:51.919 Delta Center for the first time watch the Jazz get 309 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.039 blown out by fifty and think this is it for me, 310 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.279 This is where I want to be. 311 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.679 Right And that's the danger of having a rebuild go 312 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.200 more than a few years. And to be fair to 313 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:05.519 Xanak and age and everybody else, most rebuilts go more 314 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:06.320 than a few years. 315 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.039 We just haven't had those happen here very often. 316 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.759 And I suppose, because there's there's this general feel like 317 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.360 if I'm watching an NBA show or if I'm listening 318 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.679 to an NBA podcast, there's just this general feel. And 319 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.639 Jason Kidd actually set it out loud a couple of 320 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:23.720 years ago during a MAVs playoff run when he said, 321 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.320 you guys don't get it. We're millionaires cheering for each other. 322 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.200 I'm like, dude, I know, but don't say that A 323 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.000 was lifting right. And you do get peeks behind the 324 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.440 curtain every once in a while when Kevin Durant says, hey, 325 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.279 nobody ever thinks about the fans, just so you know. 326 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.159 So there is this general feel like these guys are 327 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:44.000 fat and happy. How he stay hungry when you're well fed, 328 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.159 and they don't really give a rip about anything other 329 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.320 than their P and L statements, which are really healthy, 330 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.000 and the fans keep showing up. I wonder if you 331 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:52.919 think that stops at some point. As far as that 332 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.039 building being full, it was full every I was probably 333 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:56.759 there ten times last year was full every time. 334 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.120 Yeah. I was just talking about that with Andy Larsen 335 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:02.600 and staff yesterday, and and you know, you look at 336 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:04.960 the start of last season, there was there was the 337 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.600 idea of hope right at the very start of last season, 338 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.200 and so it makes sense that that you have that 339 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.519 going in. Things don't work out, it doesn't, you know, 340 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.279 it turns it's worse than you expected. But it's still 341 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.639 full after the All Star break, after the trade deadline. 342 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.240 Is is a bit surprising. I mean, I my first 343 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.720 year covering the Jazz was twenty thirteen. It's twenty five 344 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.200 win team. There were a lot of green seats, you know, 345 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.159 Like I, I do think it does stop at a 346 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:34.799 certain point. You can't you can't rely on, you know, 347 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.799 on the past for forever, particularly when there are other 348 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:42.360 opportunities to spend your dollars. He was good, b YU 349 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:49.480 looks better than expected. RSL may maybe maybe a Cup contender, okay, 350 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:54.360 and and the hockey club right, So so yeah, I do. 351 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.159 I would expect that at some point this year the 352 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:58.679 sellout streak ends. 353 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:01.519 I think that's probably accurate. 354 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:03.879 But there's a lot of trucks and Tesla's, as Camaradie 355 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.399 likes to say, that make their way up from the 356 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.279 South to make sure that thing is jam pack. 357 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:08.639 That's you brought him up. 358 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.320 So let's do a little bit on RSL. Before we 359 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.360 end with college football, I was on TV with your guy, 360 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.519 Dave Fox, one of your mentors. We all look up 361 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.440 to Dave for a number of reasons, and he asked 362 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.120 me last night, are you more confident in them making 363 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.960 a deep Cup run now than you were a month ago? 364 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.720 And I said no, not as there was a month ago. 365 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:32.639 Because remember they went fifteen games unbeaten, fifteen matches unbeaten. 366 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.840 Pardon me, they made a bunch of changes, kind of 367 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:37.039 seem to be figuring it out. 368 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.320 I think the keeper situation is going to stop them 369 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:42.600 from winning anything special. That's kind of where I'm at. 370 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:45.679 But I love playoff soccer, fall soccer. I think we'll 371 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:47.720 get a home match. What are you expecting from RSL 372 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.320 the rest of the way. 373 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.360 Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I thought after you 374 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.000 sell Gomez, like there's going to be a natural dip 375 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:56.840 just in terms of energy, in terms of other people. 376 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.799 It seems like these editions have done enough offensively to 377 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.119 maybe give you hope that, like you can go out 378 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.319 and win a playoff game or two or whatever. But yeah, 379 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:10.400 I mean, I think at this point it's not gonna 380 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.960 surprise me to see McMath back in goal. And I 381 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:17.079 I think, you know, Beaver's maybe maybe has a bright 382 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.720 future looks a bit skeittish right now. Yes, McMath has 383 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:25.799 made a number of errors that were probably unforgivable to some. 384 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.559 But he's gonna be your best bet to win at 385 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:30.680 this point, and I mean at this and you gotta 386 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:32.279 have you gotta have your defense step up three to three. 387 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.680 The other night is uh, that's that's a sad ending. 388 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:36.599 Yeah like that. 389 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.039 Well, I'll tell you what if it's McMath between the pipes. 390 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:40.599 So I'm gonna get on Twitter. I gotta see some 391 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:42.680 of those tweets flying man, because some people get really 392 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.480 upset with it. All right, we'll move over with a 393 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.480 few minutes last to college football. Now let me start here. You, 394 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.400 I'm a true aggie. You are an aggie aggie. You 395 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.160 are an alump. I did not do this mooching so 396 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:57.880 we I don't know what that means. We both have 397 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.200 different ties and realistinity to our good friends up and 398 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.720 Logan for different reasons. How does it feel that you 399 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:08.960 are an alumni of a pac twelve school? Congrat Utah State. 400 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.279 You know, I've been watching this and I don't really 401 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.640