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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Koston's new radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks very much, Dan Watkins. As we move

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<v Speaker 2>into the tenant the nine o'clock hour here, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead of myself here, I am delighted to join

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<v Speaker 2>by to be joined by Brian Kane, the executive Director

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<v Speaker 2>of the MBTA Advisory Board. Brian, there's probably a little

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<v Speaker 2>confusion here, so let's clarify things. What is the MBTA

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<v Speaker 2>Advisory Board and as the executive director, what is your

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<v Speaker 2>role in terms of either how the tea operates or

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<v Speaker 2>how the people who operate the tea behave.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Dan, firstly, thank you very much for having me

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<v Speaker 3>on Night Side. It's a real honor to be on

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<v Speaker 3>your airwaves. Thank you very much. So. The NBTA Advisory

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<v Speaker 3>Board was created in nineteen forty seven, at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time the Metropolitan Transit Authority was created. We represent one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy eight cities and towns that receive MBTA

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<v Speaker 3>service or are next to a town that receives MBTA

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<v Speaker 3>service via the station, and we have a statutory obligation

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<v Speaker 3>to oversee the t's operating capital budgets, fair service policy,

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<v Speaker 3>and we maintained very close links with the team management

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<v Speaker 3>to try to keep them Monistan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, so you are in effect a representative of

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<v Speaker 2>the towns. But in addition, you're a representative of the

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<v Speaker 2>patrons of the m b t A. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not employed by the MVTA.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked, Sorry, Dan, go ahead, I'm so.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead if I misspoke? What did I What did

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Sorry, I was going to say, I do not

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<v Speaker 3>work for the governor. I do not work for the legislature,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do not work for the t I work

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<v Speaker 3>for the cities and towns and their citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, No, absolutely, absolutely. Now, there was some news today

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<v Speaker 2>that you probably have heard of our newscast that the

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<v Speaker 2>number of slowed zones have been have been reduced dramatically.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's only slow zones left on the green

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<v Speaker 2>line or in parts of the green line. What caused

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<v Speaker 2>the slow zones? I assume it was problems with the

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<v Speaker 2>tracks for lack of maintenance or maintenance that had fallen behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for those who do not know the genesis of

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<v Speaker 2>slow zones, you can explain it much better than I can,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate it if you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. So a slow zone is a safety measure. So

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<v Speaker 3>if there are any defects on the track, like a

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<v Speaker 3>cracked rail or a broken sleeper, which is the sort

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<v Speaker 3>of piece of wood in between the two pieces of

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<v Speaker 3>iron that make a train track, there's any kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a problem there, or even a problem with the overhead wires,

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<v Speaker 3>what they'll do is they'll put in a slow zone,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a ten mile per hour speed restriction, and

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<v Speaker 3>that means for however long of a length of track

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<v Speaker 3>that slow zone is in place, the train can only

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<v Speaker 3>travel at ten miles per hour. Now, these things usually

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<v Speaker 3>or should get fixed every so often, but the t

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<v Speaker 3>forvariety of reasons, including lack of resources and the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that when they were trying to do this stuff overnight

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have a lot of time, was not able

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<v Speaker 3>to get to them until some of these slow zones

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<v Speaker 3>were in place for years. And as your newscast referred

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<v Speaker 3>to the Triple Crown, I like that what Phil Lang

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<v Speaker 3>has done. The new general manager has gone in and

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<v Speaker 3>really put a real emphasis on this, and through a

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<v Speaker 3>variety of shutting down the system, they've gotten rid of

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<v Speaker 3>all the slow zones as well, except for four that

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<v Speaker 3>are left on the green line, and the GM has

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<v Speaker 3>promised that they will be eliminated by the end of

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<v Speaker 3>this calendar year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I assume that the slow zones are an industry

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<v Speaker 2>standard or is it a self imposed restriction of limitation

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<v Speaker 2>that the TEA has placed upon itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was really done out of an abundance of

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<v Speaker 3>caution and for safety. So the idea is that if

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<v Speaker 3>the train is going ten miles an hour, it's less

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<v Speaker 3>likely to derail or have any thing bad happened to it.

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<v Speaker 3>And chances are it could have gone faster over that

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<v Speaker 3>piece of track, but out of an bumpet pecaution, they

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<v Speaker 3>just made it go slow. And this is very common

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<v Speaker 3>in the railroad industry across the country in a public

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<v Speaker 3>transportation system. What wasn't common, Dan is the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>t had so many of them and that it took

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<v Speaker 3>so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I assume that was delayed maintenance, that the TEA

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<v Speaker 2>probably over time before you arrived and before phil Ang arrived.

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<v Speaker 2>That people said, well, we'll save a little bit in

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<v Speaker 2>the budget here. But what I'm saying is it was

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't imposed by some government agency. It was something

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<v Speaker 2>that the MBTA recognized and did it for passenger safety

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<v Speaker 2>for which they should be commended. Okay, So one of

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<v Speaker 2>the issues that we deal with the tea and if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone has any questions about the MBTA, Brian Kana be

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<v Speaker 2>happy to talk to you and try to address those issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you. I tend to ride the

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<v Speaker 2>Tea very infrequently, although when I have been in a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where I've driven where I've ridden the Tea occasionally,

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<v Speaker 2>It's worked fine for me. But I'm not commuting five

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<v Speaker 2>days a week on the MBTA as so many of

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners and so many people are you mentioned today

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<v Speaker 2>to me that you know that it's what two dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy cents to ride the Tea at the regular rate,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're going from one of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>near in Boston suburbs, that's not bad when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. If you had to drive your car, and

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<v Speaker 2>not only did you have to deal with the traffic

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<v Speaker 2>that all of us are familiar with, but in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to that, you're going to have to park your car somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you begin to look at it like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts to look like a pretty good financial decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for most people who need to get in

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<v Speaker 2>and get out of Boston on a day to day basis,

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<v Speaker 2>which leads me to my question, and that is, with

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<v Speaker 2>the slow zones now slowly but surely having been eliminated,

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<v Speaker 2>the number having been diminished, has TE ridership had a spike?

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<v Speaker 2>Whe's Where's where's t ridership at this point?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? Dan, So, first of all, I misspoke earlier to

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<v Speaker 3>your producer, and it's two dollars and forty cents for

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<v Speaker 3>a one way fair. It's one seventy for a bus fare.

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<v Speaker 3>So my apologies for that. That was my mistake. Ridership

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<v Speaker 3>is coming back. It certainly is back on commuter rail,

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<v Speaker 3>which has not had these sort of shutdowns to do

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<v Speaker 3>this track maintenance this year. So the MBTA's contractor, Kiolis

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<v Speaker 3>tells us that their ridership return rate is the best

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States. In other words, more people are

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<v Speaker 3>coming back to the MBTA commuter rail than any other

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<v Speaker 3>commuter rail system in the cunt and that's very good news.

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<v Speaker 2>And I assume that that refers to both pre and

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<v Speaker 2>post COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes, In fact, they tell us that in many

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<v Speaker 3>cases there their ridership now is above pre COVID levels

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<v Speaker 3>on some commuter allies. One thing they've noticed though, is

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<v Speaker 3>it's a different kind of ridership. It's not the five

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<v Speaker 3>day a week folks buying their those monthly passes like

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<v Speaker 3>which used to happen. It's folks going on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>They have the tea is a great program. For ten bucks,

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<v Speaker 3>you and up to two kids under the age of

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<v Speaker 3>twelve can ride for free. So it's a great deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called a family Fair and they've had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ridership, take a lot of ridership uptake, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>caused their total ridership numbers to come way up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never heard of that, and I listened a lot

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<v Speaker 2>during the day. Did they advertise that? Seriously? That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the best deal in town. You know, a parent of

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<v Speaker 2>mom or dad can take a couple of it's in

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<v Speaker 2>or out of Boston for free on a Saturday. You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to visit the Children's Museum of the Science Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all weekend actually, so you can even use

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<v Speaker 3>it the following day if you go on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But what I'm what I'm saying is that the

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<v Speaker 2>pr people got to get on the stick here and

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<v Speaker 2>get that word out. I was unaware of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, they should advertise on nightside then.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but no, but they should advertise a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of places, because that to me sounds really fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so let's take a quick break here. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to invite callers to call. This is an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for you to raise questions. I've got a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. We want to talk about the debt. How

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<v Speaker 2>the MVT is going to dig themselves out of this

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<v Speaker 2>this debt, How much of a deficit they'll have even

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<v Speaker 2>this year is impossible? Is there any projection that it

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<v Speaker 2>might break even some year? We get to all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>everything you want to know about the MVTA. We talk

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<v Speaker 2>about safety. The T had a spate of problems. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not it was a staircase that would collapse,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether or not a train would catch fire over

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<v Speaker 2>the Mystic River and you'd end up people seeing somebody

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<v Speaker 2>jumping off of train tracks into the water. All of

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<v Speaker 2>us remember, those are the images that are indelibly etched

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<v Speaker 2>in our mind. And the MBTA can improve, and they

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<v Speaker 2>apparently have improved based upon what we're here tonight. But

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<v Speaker 2>they got to let people know it's improved, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got to let people know that it is safe and

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<v Speaker 2>get this MBTA back in the organization which in operation,

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<v Speaker 2>which in turn will lessen the number of people are

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<v Speaker 2>out on the roads coming in on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 2>or even coming in during weekends. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with Brian Kane, he's the executive director of the

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<v Speaker 2>MBTA Advisory Board. It's a very important board and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very important position. You can talk directly with him

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<v Speaker 2>at six point seven two five four ten or six

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<v Speaker 2>constructive comment or suggestion, we'd love that as well, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody who utilizes the NBTA. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside with more conversation with Brian Kine, executive director

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<v Speaker 2>of the MBTA Advisory Board, right after these few messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio with us is Brian Kane. Brian, let's talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of money here. The tea has always been

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<v Speaker 2>in debt, or at least during my lifetime. Uh And

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<v Speaker 2>right now you mentioned to me earlier that they're carrying

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<v Speaker 2>about five and a half billion dollars in debt. That's

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<v Speaker 2>about ten percent just to put in perspective of an

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<v Speaker 2>annual Massachusetts budget. That debt has come down a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit recently, but they have about five hundred billion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>debt service, which is interest on the debt. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they're servicing the debt of half a billion dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is more money that the t earns during

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<v Speaker 2>an entire year. Is this hole a hole that the

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<v Speaker 2>MBTA will ever dig out of or can ever dig

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<v Speaker 2>out of?

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<v Speaker 3>In European Well, I don't know if they can ever

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<v Speaker 3>dig out of it, then probably not, But I can't

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that they have. They and their predecessor agencies

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<v Speaker 3>going all the way back to nineteen eighteen have always

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<v Speaker 3>been in debt, and that debt has always been a

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<v Speaker 3>millstone around the necks of those transportation agencies. We just

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<v Speaker 3>have a new report come out called Always Broke, and

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like the history of governing and financing the

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<v Speaker 3>MBTA since nineteen eighteen. And the thing that we discovered

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<v Speaker 3>is ever since public control started right around World War One,

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<v Speaker 3>transportation systems here have never been able to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>From under of Now did you did the advisory board

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote it for the Advisory Board, which voted to

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<v Speaker 2>And that is your second report that you have authored,

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand it. Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In two thousand and nine, when I was first

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<v Speaker 3>effect of the sort of so called big big debt

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<v Speaker 3>on the MBTA's finances and really put that into the

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<v Speaker 3>public realm for the first time. So the.

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<v Speaker 2>MVTA, with seventy five hundred employees, that has to be

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yes, I imagine it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay. So with and you've got pension issues that

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right, Dan. I think the problem has

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<v Speaker 3>been when sort of political patronage gets involved and the

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<v Speaker 3>NBTA gets away from its mission of moving the people

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<v Speaker 3>of Massachusetts around the region on buses and trains and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean there was a long time where the

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<v Speaker 2>acronym MBTA did not represent for in the minds of

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<v Speaker 2>Senate President who were picking up jobs. We'll leave that.

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<v Speaker 2>with RITA in East Boston. Reta, You called in early,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm more than happy to accommodate you. Before the

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<v Speaker 2>the NBTA reader. What question do you comment? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just wanted to say, first, thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>taking my call, and then I want to say, is

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the cost. The cost of having it is very

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<v Speaker 4>important because if you start to reduce it and you

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<v Speaker 4>start to take away features, that affects the population, which

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<v Speaker 4>in turn I think would be then a bigger burden

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<v Speaker 4>because then they'd have to try to live close to

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<v Speaker 4>to never mind a deficit, but to ever just run

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<v Speaker 4>it as sort of a break even? Are there transit

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<v Speaker 4>systems in the area that can do that? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Stay right there, we'll get we'll get an answer for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you. Rita. Yeah, and so the answer is no.

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<v Speaker 3>The only two that I'm aware of are in Singapore

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<v Speaker 3>different government structure, shall we say, But in North America, Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>None of them operate without government subsidies. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>contribute towards it. A little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Rider to get a follow up or does that do

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that does it for me on that issue, but

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<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about specific lines on another call.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks Verder, appreciate your call. Yeah, how do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows the Bay Area rail transportation system in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, the Metro in Washington. Is there any way

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<v Speaker 2>to compare the public transportation systems in other cities Philadelphia, Boston, wherever?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it just impossible? They're all so different.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're all very different, but they all do

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<v Speaker 3>receive some federal money to help with their infrastructure, and

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<v Speaker 3>so because of that, they all have to report the

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<v Speaker 3>same information to the federal government. There is an organization

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<v Speaker 3>but that Yes, it's they called the National Transit Database,

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<v Speaker 3>which compares all of them across the whole country with

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<v Speaker 3>the same measures. So yeah, it's quite possible to compare

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<v Speaker 3>how each one is doing. Right now, the best performing

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<v Speaker 3>system is the Washington DC Metro, which is actually run

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<v Speaker 3>by a former NBTA guy Randy Clark, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>very well. They were in real trouble a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, very similar to what the trouble the TEA

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<v Speaker 3>was in with the federal government, and they've come out

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<v Speaker 3>of that and now ridership is back in many ways

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<v Speaker 3>and they're doing a lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I assume that of all the transportation systems, Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>probably because it is Washington, has a lot more federal

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<v Speaker 2>moneies available to it than Boston, New York, Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco or any other major city.

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<v Speaker 3>Would it. Sure does? It, Sure does. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 3>also a lot newer than certainly what we have in

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<v Speaker 3>Boston or Philadelphia, Chicago or New York City. Like you mentioned, Ye, that.

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<v Speaker 2>System was built, I believe, particularly the underground aspect, in

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<v Speaker 2>the late sixties and into the seventies. Am I right

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's right then, Yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a buddy of mine who had been a

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<v Speaker 2>job was digging tunnels for the Washington DC metro system. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe probably not as glorious a job but it was

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<v Speaker 2>regular pay and for several years. Brian Kane is my guest.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the MBTA, he's the executive director of the MBTA

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<v Speaker 2>Advisory Board. He knows all things MBTA. He's been in

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<v Speaker 2>this post since twenty eighteen. I think he's doing a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. Happens to be one of my favorite guests

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<v Speaker 2>because whatever question you ask him, he will give you

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<v Speaker 2>an honest answer. There's no political veneer with Brian. It's

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<v Speaker 2>straightforward answer. So if you're an MBTA rider and you

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<v Speaker 2>got a question, or you cite or you perhaps want

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<v Speaker 2>to recommend something that could make it better, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the person to talk to. You wouldn't get him between

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<v Speaker 2>nine to five during the week because frankly he's too busy,

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<v Speaker 2>But we got him tonight and he's available to you

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<v Speaker 2>at six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, one, seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Those are the numbers. And even if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make a complaint, if you've had a good

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<v Speaker 2>experience on the tea recently, or if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good experience regularly, I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>From the conversely, you've had a bad experience and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to, you know, get it off your chest. Now's

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<v Speaker 2>the time to do it. Coming back on Nightside right

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<v Speaker 2>after the News at the bottom of the hour with

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<v Speaker 2>Brian kin the executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board.

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<v Speaker 2>And for those of you who don't understand, uh, necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>what the advisory Board does, will recap that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a tremendous amount of influence over the MBTA,

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<v Speaker 2>representing the one hundred and seventy eight cities and towns

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<v Speaker 2>that has some level of service from the MBTA here

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<v Speaker 2>in eastern Massachusetts. Back on night Side, more phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side, Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact with Brian Kane, the executive director since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's been there a while, the executive director of

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<v Speaker 2>the MBTA Advisory Board, and I find him to be

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<v Speaker 2>extremely refreshing. It is difficult for us, Brian, just to

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<v Speaker 2>make a point, it's so difficult for us to get

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<v Speaker 2>any representative of the MBTA to come on this talk show.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason for that is I think the public

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<v Speaker 2>relations people at the MBTA, their their job is to

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<v Speaker 2>protect the leadership of the TEA, whether it's Phil Ang

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<v Speaker 2>or someone else from from talking to just te Riders.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's absolutely insane. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever want to raise that with Ang for us,

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<v Speaker 2>but love to have him on talk about his accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 2>But the PR department there is intentionally, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>obstructive to us at any time that we try to

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<v Speaker 2>get them, even even on you know, to say hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to come on and talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>successors they have. It's it's it's very difficult. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned that. And the contrast is you're ail your

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<v Speaker 2>a willingness to come on at the end of a

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<v Speaker 2>long day. This is a full time job for you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not some ceremonial job. This is a full

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<v Speaker 2>time job that you work at. So let's let's keep

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<v Speaker 2>going here with our questions and give people an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with you. My next call is from Tom

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston. Tom, you are on with Brian Kane, the

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<v Speaker 2>executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board. Whatever commented question

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like to make a right ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom, Yeah, then great topic, Brian, Thanks for being there.

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<v Speaker 5>I am a long term PE writer. I did six

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<v Speaker 5>years of high school where I did the a bust

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<v Speaker 5>the red line in the green line, and that was

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<v Speaker 5>that was entertaining. And then they did twenty five years

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<v Speaker 5>on the commuter rail and that was a pleasure. But

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<v Speaker 5>recently I've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>The first comment was somewhat sarcastic. I think I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up a note of sedcasting the first part of the comment.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll let that one go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead talk recently going going to the Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 5>If I if I take the commuter rail over to

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<v Speaker 5>Back Bay, they have a transfer to the train going

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<v Speaker 5>to Yackey Way, and you just transfer and you go

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<v Speaker 5>to Frienway parking, no parking fees. It's fantastic. It's time

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<v Speaker 5>perfectly for the game. But the other the other car

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<v Speaker 5>i'd maker is when I go into Boston now and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in the express lane, the hother lane, and I

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<v Speaker 5>look over at the traffic. I scratched my head and say,

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<v Speaker 5>why would anybody drive into the city and pay for parking?

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<v Speaker 5>And now we have bike lanes and all these altar

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<v Speaker 5>I say, take the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thanks, Tom, And you're right. There are other shuttle

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<v Speaker 3>buses not only from Back Bay station, but also from

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<v Speaker 3>Ruggle Station. The folks are coming in on some of

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<v Speaker 3>those other lines that might go to Ruggles. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you talk about tom when you talk about driving

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<v Speaker 2>in and the dedicated I think you called it the

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<v Speaker 2>hover line. My question is do you have another person

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<v Speaker 2>in that car or is that a blow up doll

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<v Speaker 2>that that city? I got normally the car right.

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<v Speaker 5>Normally we do. But I have heard about other people

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<v Speaker 5>not having two people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the plug. One of the plug is I've

425
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<v Speaker 5>gotten now that I'm retired, I've gotten to enjoy the

426
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<v Speaker 5>commute of boats and we've actually not created Yeah, it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they running all you guys? Are they running all year?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they still seasonal or what's what's the deal on those?

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<v Speaker 3>So some of them run year round, then the Lynn

430
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<v Speaker 3>Ferry because it has to sort of go out into

431
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more of the open ocean, and the

432
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<v Speaker 3>Salem Ferry because for the same reason, they will be

433
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<v Speaker 3>ending very soon if they haven't already ended. But the

434
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<v Speaker 3>ones that stay sort of in the inner harbor, sort

435
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<v Speaker 3>of the this side of hull in Winthrope, they'll run

436
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<v Speaker 3>year round unless there's there's ice, or unless the Coastguard

437
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<v Speaker 3>tells them not to, so they hang them. The Hall

438
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<v Speaker 3>East Boston and Charlestown ferries are year round. They're fantastic.

439
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<v Speaker 3>The people that take them love them, and they serve.

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<v Speaker 3>They serve a few drinks there at the end of

441
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<v Speaker 3>the day. If that's your If that's your.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice, okay. On the return trip, not going in in

443
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<v Speaker 2>the morning, that's important as well, Hey, Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>One other comment. You mentioned mister Dougherty a little while ago.

446
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<v Speaker 5>I think in your Civics class he told me about

447
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<v Speaker 5>the intersection of massav and Huntington AB all the utilities

448
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<v Speaker 5>that are there in the subway system. You know, the

449
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<v Speaker 5>Boston subway system is how many years old? One hundred

450
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<v Speaker 5>and fifty? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What. Yeah, eighteen ninety seven, Wow, I thought, okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the same mister Dougherty that I referred to

453
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<v Speaker 2>by by chance?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I love Charlestown.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Was he Chilestown?

456
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure he's from. I had him as a

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<v Speaker 2>ninth grade Civics teacher with Boston Latin School. Did you

458
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<v Speaker 2>go to Latin School?

459
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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

460
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<v Speaker 5>I had him for history, but he was so entertained. Yeah,

461
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 5>and I used to see him. I used to see

462
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<v Speaker 5>him waiting at park streets for the trolleys that were

463
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<v Speaker 5>running a little bit late.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom, You've been a very enjoyable caller for me, humorous,

465
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<v Speaker 6>you brought your a game and uh and I think

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<v Speaker 6>Brian enjoyed it as well because there was nary a

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<v Speaker 6>criticism here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, thanks, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Tom. Talk to you soon if we go to

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<v Speaker 2>Bill in Norfolk, Massachusetts. Bill, you're next on NICEID with

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Kane, m BT, a Advisory board executive director.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey Dan, I also had Dolreaty and Civics ninth grade

474
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<v Speaker 7>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this is the small world here? This is I.

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<v Speaker 8>Know he was, he was great.

477
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<v Speaker 7>But I have something unusual here. I have praise for

478
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<v Speaker 7>the n b T and a question. Okay, good, good.

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<v Speaker 7>The first praise is I volunteer for the Red and

480
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<v Speaker 7>we have a great relationship with the MBTA, And I

481
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 7>tell you anytime we need them, we call them. They

482
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<v Speaker 7>help us out. Just two quick stories. I did a

483
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<v Speaker 7>big fire in Hull. I had about twenty displaced in

484
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<v Speaker 7>a boarding house and we we got them hotels, you know,

485
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 7>like ten miles away, so we had to get them there.

486
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<v Speaker 8>Nobody had a car.

487
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 7>One phone call.

488
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<v Speaker 8>The teed buses there. I was actually emotional when I

489
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 8>saw that TEA bus show up. We did a big

490
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<v Speaker 8>fire in Randolph earlier this year. We had sixty displaced.

491
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<v Speaker 8>One phone called in the MBTA.

492
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<v Speaker 7>They had two buses there for me and it was cold, so.

493
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<v Speaker 8>We had to get people, you know, into the tee.

494
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<v Speaker 8>But that's the praise. My only question is I had

495
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<v Speaker 8>a buddy.

496
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<v Speaker 7>We did twenty years in the MBTA, and you know

497
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 7>he got there early.

498
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<v Speaker 2>He the way you carried. When you said I had

499
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<v Speaker 2>a buddy who did twenty years, I wasn't thinking about

500
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<v Speaker 2>the NBTA. He worked for the NBA.

501
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<v Speaker 5>He worked, but he got a pension.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan he was forty two.

503
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<v Speaker 8>He's got a full at forty two. Is that still happening, guys?

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<v Speaker 3>So no, I mean it's still it's still very a

505
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<v Speaker 3>very very good deal. And let me see if I

506
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<v Speaker 3>can briefly explain. So they have a pension system that

507
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<v Speaker 3>goes back in pre day social security was negotiated back

508
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<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen teams and it's still in existence. The

509
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 3>deal is, if you go to work for the tea.

510
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<v Speaker 3>You cannot get any money out of the system unless

511
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<v Speaker 3>you're there. It used to be twenty three years, now

512
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 3>is twenty five years in a lot of cases in

513
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<v Speaker 3>the private sector, even if you work for the state,

514
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 3>if you do ten years, you can get some money

515
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<v Speaker 3>out to tee. The deal is you have to do

516
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty five before you can get a dime out. But

517
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<v Speaker 3>once you do twenty five, you can get eighty percent

518
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<v Speaker 3>of your highest three earning years. And that's and that's

519
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>the pension system. Back in the day, folks used to like,

520
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>like your friends would start working there and there at

521
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>twenty at forty three, they'd be out. They pull their

522
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<v Speaker 3>pension and then go get another job.

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<v Speaker 7>And he retired twenty years after in another place.

524
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<v Speaker 8>He had a pretty good deal.

525
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<v Speaker 3>It's a good deal. It's also eligible for Social Security.

526
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a real good deal. The only thing

527
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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, and again I'm not justifying it. I'm not

528
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<v Speaker 3>defending it. I don't I'm not in it. You know,

529
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 3>those whatever they get when they retire tends to be

530
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<v Speaker 3>what they get for the rest of their retirement, so

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really go up very often. There's not the

532
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<v Speaker 3>cost of willing increases that are automatic, Okay, but yeah

533
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<v Speaker 3>it is. It's something that probably should get looked at. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The other fact taking that and I don't I don't

535
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<v Speaker 2>want to defend it because I was as outraged as

536
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<v Speaker 2>anybody is that if that pension program was instituted in

537
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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen teens, nineteen fifteen or whatever, the life expectancy

538
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<v Speaker 2>of the people who are working in the NATA, and

539
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<v Speaker 2>you know that era they had been born in the

540
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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth century, in their life expectancy probably was fifty five

541
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<v Speaker 2>fifty six, fifty seven from an actual aerial basis. If that, uh,

542
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<v Speaker 2>and as that system did not adjust over time, that's

543
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<v Speaker 2>when you had the people who were retiring at forty

544
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<v Speaker 2>two after twenty years. And then was we're able to

545
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<v Speaker 2>tack on a second job and in some cases a

546
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<v Speaker 2>second job with the MBTA by the way, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Aware of that, yeah, or a contractor or a vendor,

548
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 3>you know that, right? That's yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think there was one guy who ended

550
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<v Speaker 2>up being uh, the general general manager after having worked

551
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<v Speaker 2>in the T If I'm not mistaken. I don't want

552
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<v Speaker 2>to mention the name that I think because I don't

553
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<v Speaker 2>want to make a mistake, but I think it is

554
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<v Speaker 2>even that was one of the more outrageous cases in

555
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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. But Bill, you you raise great points. I

556
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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for your.

557
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<v Speaker 7>Call and bring that message back to the Red Cross.

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00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 7>I really appreciate it to what you guys do for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, sure, Brian will bring that back absolutely. Thank you, Bill,

561
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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, thank you. As a Latin School alum,

562
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>assume is PREMI to be involved in some of the

563
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<v Speaker 2>programs that you were involved in as a volunteer. I

564
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 2>don't want to ask you what year you graduated, but

565
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>just tell me who your head master was when you're graduating.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be able to figure out doctor Leary.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I got I get a pretty good idea.

568
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<v Speaker 2>We might have been classic.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm right behind you, brother, I'm right behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Bill, you're doing that. You're doing aid school problem.

571
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much appreciate it. Okay, Well take quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess is Brian Kane. Brian, you've had an easy

573
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<v Speaker 2>ride tonight. You've got some really good response and we'll

574
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<v Speaker 2>keep it up. We've got room for a couple more

575
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<v Speaker 2>six one seven thirty or six one seven, nine three

576
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<v Speaker 2>thirty coming back on night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

578
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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess, Brian Kane is the executive director of the

580
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<v Speaker 2>MBTA Advisory Board. We've talked about the tea. Now for

581
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>this hour, we'll take another call at least if you'd

582
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>like to jump on board if you got a question criticism.

583
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<v Speaker 2>I think you've had a pretty good night here, no

584
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>criticisms and mostly lawn its. Let's see what Sachi in

585
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Saugus has to say. Sachi, you are next on night

586
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<v Speaker 2>Sign with Brian Kine, Executive Director, Sachi of the MBTA

587
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Advisory Board. Satu, you go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I have a couple of small questions that MBTA

589
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 9>is one of the law actually not. It's the largest

590
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 9>landowner in the entire state of mass and there's so

591
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 9>much a land that is not being used by MBTA,

592
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 9>and there's like kind of abandoned and finally they just

593
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 9>realized and they you know, they leased it for ninety

594
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<v Speaker 9>nine years lease for the bike bad and for an example,

595
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 9>Lane Lynn, and they never finished the bike back and

596
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 9>they're homeless shelter tents and they as needles and so on.

597
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 9>So what MBTA is planning to do with the cities

598
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<v Speaker 9>that they are not doing their job to complete the

599
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 9>bike path and get all these tents out.

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<v Speaker 3>So a good question, sat. So, I don't know the

601
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<v Speaker 3>exact details of that particular piece of property, but if

602
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<v Speaker 3>it's been leased for ninety nine years, it's probably been

603
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<v Speaker 3>leased to a third party. I don't know if it's

604
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<v Speaker 3>the City of wind or if it's a nonprofit.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The responsibility for get cleaning up the needles and getting

607
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<v Speaker 3>rid of the homeless encampments is up to the lease holder.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the NBTA sort of leases it, it sort

609
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<v Speaker 3>of says, now you're you're in charge. Uh. There are

610
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<v Speaker 3>some there are some exceptions, and maybe the t is

611
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<v Speaker 3>responsible for this particular one. I'm not sure this particular case,

612
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<v Speaker 3>but you know what, let me let me take that.

613
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<v Speaker 3>I'll see if I can find out if the is responsible.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to some folks tomorrow and if it's the case,

615
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<v Speaker 3>I'll encourage them to get out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where where is the satchi satchi? Where exactly is

617
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<v Speaker 2>the location so that you can help Brian Lynn.

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<v Speaker 9>Right past Bennett Street Bridge, it's going all of it

619
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<v Speaker 9>to the live NBT a line and it comes to

620
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<v Speaker 9>a dead end in Lynn And you said you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just did I hear you?

622
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You said Bennett Street.

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<v Speaker 3>Bridge Bennett Bennett Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good well look and the thing is.

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<v Speaker 9>If you actually look at it, I have a land

627
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 9>right next to it, and I have a bear that

628
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 9>you know, stop the bear that a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 9>If you google it on the bike path, that's a

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<v Speaker 9>fast end, you know, end up my property. And after

631
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<v Speaker 9>that it's all They didn't do nothing and just random

632
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<v Speaker 9>people just pretense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, SATCHI let's do this. Sat listen to me for

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<v Speaker 2>second place.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I want you to leave your number with Rob,

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<v Speaker 6>and Rob will give your number to Brian and I

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<v Speaker 6>guarantee you that Brian will look into it and he

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<v Speaker 6>will get back to you with some information.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't want to leave your hanging.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh no, no, the problem.

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<v Speaker 9>And I have one more question besides that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you could be quick, I got another caller

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<v Speaker 2>who I'd like to accommodate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like something quick.

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<v Speaker 9>That's the MBTA police still exist or did they change

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<v Speaker 9>it to transit priest just for the federal funding. So

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<v Speaker 9>we must save some money over there.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Transit Police still exists. They have jurisdiction in all one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy eight communities and they're still I know

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<v Speaker 3>they've had trouble recruiting SAT.

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<v Speaker 6>You do me a favor, Please leave your number, Please

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<v Speaker 6>leave your phone number with Rob and if.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd like to get some update on this information. But

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get you, gotta let you go. I getta

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<v Speaker 2>get one person in here. Let me get to George

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<v Speaker 2>and Arlington. George, you're calling late. You got to be quick.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on with Brian Kane. Go ahead, George.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Two quick questions. One, uh, I love the tea?

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<v Speaker 3>When a scooter scooter as bad as not? Is there

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<v Speaker 3>an IRIS SAT? And why don't they ever get back

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<v Speaker 3>to us when you make a comment. I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand the question. What an I r C customer

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<v Speaker 3>on the customer response thing is an IRIS? HEAT always

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<v Speaker 3>responds you know we'll get back to you. Nobody ever

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<v Speaker 3>gets back to us, is that right? I'm sorry? So, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. Let me let me see if

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<v Speaker 3>I can get in touch with you again. Dan, if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't mind, can you give this gentleman my number

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<v Speaker 3>and you can contact me and George.

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<v Speaker 6>George, we're gonna, we're gonna we won't give you Brian's number,

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<v Speaker 6>but we're gonna take your number.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob will take your number, George. Uh and Brian, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can remember. Well, obviously Satchie wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the the the areas in Lynn and George is

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a more general question, which is people getting

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<v Speaker 2>back to them when they leave a comment on some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of line. Uh, well, don't you hang up when

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<v Speaker 2>when we finish, and we'll Rob will give you both

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<v Speaker 2>of those numbers. Okay, I can't quite understand. I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to help Satchy more than he realized. Brian, you

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<v Speaker 2>have helped us tonight and helped all the people who

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<v Speaker 2>have an interest in the m bt A. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for coming on. And if you see the

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<v Speaker 2>general manager, he'd love to I'd love to have him

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<v Speaker 2>come on and and take some calls. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>most people tonight are a little happy with the m

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<v Speaker 2>b t A. They were the last time you were on,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is a sign of progress.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, Dan, it's a real honor to be on

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<v Speaker 3>Night's side. And I have the utmost respect for you

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<v Speaker 3>and your listeners and all that you and they do.

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<v Speaker 3>And thanks again, and I hope you'll have you back sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you, we'll have you back more quickly than

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<v Speaker 2>you realize. And thanks again for tonight, and don't hang up, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>Will Giff get you those names and phone numbers. When

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<v Speaker 2>we get back. Right after the ten o'clock news, we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to talk about the decision by former Congressman

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates to drop out to I would want to

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<v Speaker 2>say withdraw his nomination, but I guess I'll say that

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to withdraw his nomination. The President has already

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<v Speaker 2>nominated a successor, the former Attorney General of the State

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<v Speaker 2>of Florida, Pam Bondy. I had a different suggestion. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about this. This seems to me to

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<v Speaker 2>be an unforced error that the Trump administration has made

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<v Speaker 2>here with Matt Gates. I couldn't understand why the nomination

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<v Speaker 2>was made in the first place, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Gates did everyone a favor by dropping out. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back right after the ten o'clock news talking some politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after this