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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Firestorm erupts last night in Malibu,

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<v Speaker 1>just shy of eleven PM, and the pictures are incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>The video that has come out, the video we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about from inside the Pepperdine Library.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job by firefighters.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all hands on deck right away, about seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred firefighters on scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Show, as you referred to it earlier, was able to

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<v Speaker 1>start when the sun began to come up, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing the firefighting Chinook helicopters, the fixed wing aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>the DC ten, the Super scoopers, everybody attacking this thing

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<v Speaker 1>from the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Pepperdine has canceled classes. This is finals week, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be annoying for some people to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>how to reschedule all of that. About twenty two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>acres was the latest update as of eight o'clock during

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<v Speaker 3>that news conference. And this all comes when we are

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<v Speaker 3>in the midst of a particularly dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Red flag warning.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very special delineation that the National Weather Service

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<v Speaker 3>makes about how dangerous these conditions are.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry de Carlo from KTLA does an exemplary job of

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<v Speaker 1>handling all of this forecasting. When we do get these

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<v Speaker 1>fires hitting us here in southern California, joins us now

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<v Speaker 1>and Henry. They say this particularly dangerous wind event will

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<v Speaker 1>last until two pm today and then the red flag

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<v Speaker 1>warnings until six pm tomorrow, So I'm assuming we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>maybe another particularly dangerous time frame tomorrow as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Gary and Channa, it is great to be with

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<v Speaker 5>you and thanks for having me on. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>very interesting when we get to the red flag warnings

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<v Speaker 5>because obviously we have fire concerns out there with the winds,

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<v Speaker 5>the dry weather, low humidity, all of that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 5>generally speaking, we'll start losing the winds, which is probably

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<v Speaker 5>the most important component to lose, but we still have

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<v Speaker 5>dry conditions, breezy conditions. So the red flag warnings usually

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<v Speaker 5>are extended out a little bit later than maybe when

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<v Speaker 5>the end event itself will die down, and that's just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a little buffer to let people know even

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<v Speaker 5>though the winds are starting to subside and things are

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<v Speaker 5>looking a little bit better that you know, they dry

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<v Speaker 5>conditions and breezy conditions still put us at risk. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to your point, I think once we get

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<v Speaker 5>to middle afternoon, I think we're going to feel a

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<v Speaker 5>lot better. In many spots, we just still need to

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<v Speaker 5>be concerned through tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the second particularly dangerous designation that the National

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<v Speaker 3>Weather Service has used this year this particularly dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Last one was the was the the wind event right

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<v Speaker 3>around election day where we saw the mountain fire start

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<v Speaker 3>up out in Ventura County.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and this is somewhat new. We used to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we have the fire weather warnings, red flag warnings, which

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<v Speaker 5>we're familiar with. We've had those around for years. And

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<v Speaker 5>now when it comes to weather, it seems like when

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<v Speaker 5>I say, you know, this isn't my doing this, it

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of meteorologically speaking, Weather Service or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're trying to classify things a little bit more, just

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<v Speaker 5>like we have category hurricanes, you know, one through five.

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<v Speaker 5>So now we have red flag warnings, but now we're

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<v Speaker 5>almost putting a little bit higher classification on them. So

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<v Speaker 5>when we know, okay, if you get a red flag warning,

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<v Speaker 5>this is an extreme red flag warning, it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>cover more areas, it may last a little bit longer,

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<v Speaker 5>and it really puts us on a higher alert. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think the reason why that's somewhat going to that

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<v Speaker 5>because so often we could have maybe six, seven, eight

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<v Speaker 5>red flag warnings a year, and maybe if you only

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<v Speaker 5>have one significant event, then people start hearing them and

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<v Speaker 5>they start thinking that it's not a big deal. We

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<v Speaker 5>seem like we get these all the time. But now

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<v Speaker 5>at these classifications, we could sit there and say, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what this is, Yes, the red flag warning, but

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<v Speaker 5>this wind event, this low humidity is really extreme and

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<v Speaker 5>in extra dangerous, so to speak. So you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>somewhat new classif find these red flag warnings this way.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's just a way to get people

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<v Speaker 5>to acknowledge, Okay, we've been through this before, chances are

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<v Speaker 5>will be okay, but this one really poses a threat,

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<v Speaker 5>and obviously it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry, have you saved any owls on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road on your way to work recently?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I haven't. I haven't saved any any animals, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always open to do that. So but no, I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't done that, but I do. I do appreciate you

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<v Speaker 5>shedding some light on that story, because you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>we can do to say our little friends. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm all for it.

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<v Speaker 4>The ones that are on the side of the road,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they need more story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was kind of a random thing? But like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I just saw that owl and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is sitting in the middle of the road. Something not

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<v Speaker 5>right here. So at least they were the happy ending there.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, it's not like a hundred people found broken owls

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<v Speaker 3>on the side of the road last year. It's I've

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<v Speaker 3>never heard of And you did it. Yeah, you were

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<v Speaker 3>the one who didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 5>Till early in the morning. And i'd like to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was probably the only one out on the road

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<v Speaker 5>at that time, but I'd like to think others would

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<v Speaker 5>do the same. And I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people like yourselves, always wanting to help out when we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have done that.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been too bleary eyed to even notice

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<v Speaker 3>it on the side of the road. So quick question,

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<v Speaker 3>just about rainfall in that area around the Malibu area,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that it's I mean, it's almost verboating

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<v Speaker 3>to say something like, what's a normal rain year, because

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't had one in a long time. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>it's either feast or famine when it comes like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But where are we this year in terms of rainfall

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<v Speaker 3>in that area?

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<v Speaker 5>You know the rain year, and you know it's not

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<v Speaker 5>a calendar year going January to December, so we start

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<v Speaker 5>October first, we've kind of reset into a new rain season. Traditionally,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't get a lot of rains, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 5>during the summer months and even October November, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we haven't seen much of anything, so we're behind, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a significant value. We get the bulk of

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<v Speaker 5>our rain typically December January is a good month. February

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<v Speaker 5>is a good month, in March, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>we need to be concerned at this point. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of years, we actually had an early

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<v Speaker 5>rainfall in the season and then we had a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>good couple of storms. We had that atmosphere river storm

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<v Speaker 5>that dumped a lot of rain, and we kind of

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<v Speaker 5>picked up a lot of ground. We came right around

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<v Speaker 5>the average, and I believe don't quote me on this,

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<v Speaker 5>but if memory is correct, I think three of the

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<v Speaker 5>past five years we've either hit or gone above the average,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a good trend of five years prior to that,

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<v Speaker 5>it was, you know, let's raise water prices. We're in

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<v Speaker 5>you know, full on drought, and but we've we've been

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<v Speaker 5>doing a little bit better and we are looking for

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<v Speaker 5>an average water the year this year. So with any luck,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get our thirteen fourteen fifteen inches of rain by

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the next water year, and hopefully we

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<v Speaker 5>won't be too concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry de Carlo, always a pleasure to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a very calmon vibe about you when we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with disasters.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I appreciate you having me on anytime, and enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>your day.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very nice. We said that about to the owl

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<v Speaker 3>when he rescued him. What he said to the owl,

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<v Speaker 3>Hey like, hey who? No, I don't say who to

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<v Speaker 3>an owl?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be like making fun of somebody to their face,

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<v Speaker 1>like the way they talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Like making fun of their accent or something. Minimal number

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<v Speaker 3>of structures that have been lost in this We've did

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<v Speaker 3>see some images early on of homes that went down,

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<v Speaker 3>but we just simply do not know how many. At

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<v Speaker 3>this point, the priority is not to count how many homes.

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<v Speaker 3>The priority priority is to get some containment line and

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<v Speaker 3>some retardant around this fire to keep it from spreading.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like right now the act of flame that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen is up on the ridges, away from homes,

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<v Speaker 1>burning in that in that thick, dense brush, which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, the attack has been on fire. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to say that the air attack has been robust.

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<v Speaker 2>Robust this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>There are still plenty of people in that area, in

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<v Speaker 3>the Malamu area don't have power because of the public

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<v Speaker 3>safety power shut off. There were some others back east,

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<v Speaker 3>back sort of in the Marongo Basin area, they had

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<v Speaker 3>also had their power turned off because of public safety

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<v Speaker 3>power shut offs. The ironic thing is, we were talking

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<v Speaker 3>with Henry de Carlo just a short time ago from

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<v Speaker 3>KTLA about the winds and drought conditions, etc. That have

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<v Speaker 3>existed at times in the last couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 3>just checked the drought monitor map in the state of California,

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<v Speaker 3>and really the only area that is significant is that

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<v Speaker 3>it is abnormally dry but not considered a drought in

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<v Speaker 3>much of the central Valley just south of Sacramento County,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of from Sacramento County down to about Kern County.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, we're doing well in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the map from the US Drought Monitor.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, the shooter of the United Healthcare CEO,

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi Mangioni had a stronghold in Maryland, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>family ties there, big family in Maryland, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>some ties to California. And we'll tell you as close

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<v Speaker 1>as Santa Monica. A good news story to tell you about.

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<v Speaker 1>They finally got the awful people that were taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of elderly people, using God essentially to get these people

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<v Speaker 1>to be robbed. It's an Orange County based robbery crew

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<v Speaker 1>that has been taken into custody after good Samaritans and

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Bardino intervened to help an older lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thirty thirty three and thirty five years old. Maria,

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<v Speaker 3>Machalia and Ovidio all residents of Fullerton.

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<v Speaker 4>These are just their first names because the others are

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<v Speaker 4>hard to say.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of them found to have warrants for their

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<v Speaker 3>arrest in other counties for robbery, theft from elderly and

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<v Speaker 3>grand theft from a person.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you remember, yeah, they were they were was it?

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<v Speaker 3>They were luring people to church or luring people with

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<v Speaker 3>the they were going.

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<v Speaker 1>Like outside of churches and talking to people and then

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<v Speaker 1>having getting in their car and taking them to another

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<v Speaker 1>two women and one man approached this woman on Foothill

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<v Speaker 1>and Rancha Cucamonga, attempted to steal the jewelry she was wearing,

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff's department shows up reports of this attempt at robbing,

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<v Speaker 3>and they figured out that they were They took off

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<v Speaker 3>of them were picked up. Is I don't understand the trio.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 2>The two women.

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<v Speaker 3>It just seems like this is a one person thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless if old video is the I'm assuming that's the

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<v Speaker 3>guy is the mastermind of all of this. He does

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<v Speaker 2>Comfortable, probably the old honey pot.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's not a gentle looking fellow than if you

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<v Speaker 2>But I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That they tried to rob this woman, and that good

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<v Speaker 1>Samaritans were there like ran to her to help out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they took off. That's essentially what it was. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're awful people. They should go straight to hell. But

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<v Speaker 4>That is nice. You would help, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>I would. I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now you've put me on the hook to help

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<v Speaker 3>out wounded owls on the side of the road, and

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<v Speaker 3>now an elderly woman who's being robbed of her jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, remember when you helped the traveling obg y n

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Orange County to deliver the triplets?

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<v Speaker 4>How much did I give him?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty dollars? Twenty dollars bill, twenty dollars? How much will

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Peter? Probably get that spot on mine ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Where did he spend the twenty bucks that I gave him?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably in an alley on fetanylar cracks.

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<v Speaker 3>And remember I was so I felt good about myself.

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<v Speaker 3>He did until you guys popped my balloon. You came in,

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, this is what I did today.

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<v Speaker 1>I ouped a traveling obgyn delivered triplets. He was out

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<v Speaker 1>of money and all credit cards at the gas station

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<v Speaker 1>and I gave him twenty dollars to get down there

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<v Speaker 1>to birth the help with the birth of those triplets.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, sounds like a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, You're like no, And I'm like that why traveling

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<v Speaker 1>obg y N. If I was delivering triplets, I would

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<v Speaker 1>make sure my doctor was in.

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<v Speaker 4>The zip code.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe not some charlatan freaking carnival doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>A multiple birth doctor specialist multiple or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then we googled it Asian traveling obgyn and

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<v Speaker 1>the stories were all.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>They were ample, like whatever you do, do not give

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the part that really smelled scam as he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you give me the money, now, I'll give you like

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<v Speaker 1>three times your money this afternoon, like and a set

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you are a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of that story, I do believe you would

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<v Speaker 1>save the owl and that you would have saved this

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<v Speaker 1>elderly woman necklace in tow and remember when.

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<v Speaker 2>You save the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's that was incredible. Why didn't you punch

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<v Speaker 3>the window of my fist or anything? You kind of

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<v Speaker 3>cuckholded the dad he deserved it.

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<v Speaker 2>He did.

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<v Speaker 3>He was walking around like a big old, like an idiot,

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<v Speaker 3>just an idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You bursted through that window, you broke the glass. You

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<v Speaker 1>and cured the baby. That was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they came in and thanked me, like the

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<v Speaker 3>woman brought the baby in and then thanked me later.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I was looking around, like, where's your husband?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's that guy? I hope he's being questioned by the deputies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or being a moron.

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<v Speaker 1>You delivered more babies than that Asian obgin not delivered essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just like all hands on deck. La County fire

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<v Speaker 1>and assisting fire crews have been overnight and into this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like a lot of the active flame is

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<v Speaker 1>burning on top of the ridges, not near neighborhoods. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, we do know some homes have been lost,

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<v Speaker 1>minimal loss. According to the authorities at the latest press briefing,

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<v Speaker 1>it is more than twenty two hundred acres. At this

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<v Speaker 1>point it is zero percent contained. We are in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of what the National Weather Service calls a particularly

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous Santa Anna wind event until two pm today, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is very important hours ahead in terms of getting

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of this thing and making that line, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is hard work in this mountainous area.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not necessarily in the same area that the

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<v Speaker 3>Woolsey fire burned in twenty eighteen, but it is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of on the very very eastern portions of where that

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<v Speaker 3>fire burned. It was that one was ninety seven thousand

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<v Speaker 3>acres and it burned all the way up over the hill

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand oaks across the one to one all that,

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<v Speaker 3>so I mean to give you an idea the difference

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<v Speaker 3>in the size. It went on forever too. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was particularly dangerous. So obviously there are closures. Pch closed

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<v Speaker 3>between Carbon Canyon and Coral Canyon. Several of those areas

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<v Speaker 3>to Panga Canyon is closed through traffic. They're only letting.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was closed before the fire even started. That

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<v Speaker 3>was closed yesterday just out of a precaution because they

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<v Speaker 3>knew the conditions were going to be bad.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy they say killed the United Healthcare CEO in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City is said to appear in court this

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in Pennsylvania. This could be an extradition hearing for

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi Mangioni, twenty six year old caught at that McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>in Altoona. I want to know about that McDonald's employee.

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<v Speaker 1>Why haven't gotten that story yet. I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more about that guy slash girl who said you look

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy on TV called in the cops. The

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<v Speaker 1>cops say, hey, you've been to New York recently. He

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<v Speaker 1>apparently starts shaking and they bring him in for questioning.

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<v Speaker 1>They find the three D printed handgun, the silencer similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the one used in the shooting the fake IDs,

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<v Speaker 1>and that three page handwritten manifesto.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're the cop and the guy starts shaking, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That just seems like it's I don't know. I do

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<v Speaker 1>that at a traffic stop. I get pulled over for it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you getting pulled over running a stop sign? And

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<v Speaker 1>I start shaking?

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<v Speaker 4>How often are you getting pulled over?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been pulled over in years.

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<v Speaker 4>You think you'd shake now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time there's a cop behind me, I suddenly feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's dead bodies in the back of the truck,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that they're there for you, and your mind

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<v Speaker 3>starts racing. Yeah, I get that too, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>It's been all so Why do I think that, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go to prison or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done nothing wrong except for maybe sped or ran

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<v Speaker 1>through a crosswalk or you know, a yellow light or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. It's not like I've killed someone and

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<v Speaker 1>the rotting body is back there. Like, why do I

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<v Speaker 1>get so nervous over a simple traffic stop?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I've killed people in past lives?

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<v Speaker 4>You may have and driven with them. Maybe guilt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's a that's a good descriptor that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good reason to be skincs it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this guy Luigi did have some ties to California.

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<v Speaker 3>The According to public records, he actually spent time at

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<v Speaker 3>Stanford back in twenty nineteen, and at one time was

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<v Speaker 3>working for Truecar, the company True Car, the digital marketplace

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<v Speaker 3>for cars out of Santa Monica. We don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he was actually living in Santa Monica at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>He also spent time in Hawaii, and I guess in

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<v Speaker 3>court last night said that Hawaii was his most recent

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<v Speaker 3>permanent address, even though as we talked about last time

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about this last hour, he had told friends

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<v Speaker 3>that he was going to be back in Hawaii at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, but was back east to see family and

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<v Speaker 3>to take care of his spinal injury that he had suffered.

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<v Speaker 3>So outside of that, we'll just continue to get more

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<v Speaker 3>and more information about him and about his family. The

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<v Speaker 3>family finally broke their silence on the arrest. They put

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<v Speaker 3>a statement on the media profile social media profile for

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<v Speaker 3>Nico Mangioni, who is a Republican delegate in the Maryland

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<v Speaker 3>House of Delegates. He said, our family is shocked and

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<v Speaker 3>devastated by Luigi's are We offer our prayers to the

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<v Speaker 3>family of Brian Thompson. We ask people to pray for

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<v Speaker 3>all involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt some more about that back pain that led to

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery that may have been the break in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>On good Reads that's a book review website. This guy's

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<v Speaker 1>got an extensive online footprint, fingerprint, whatever you want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>He reported reading or wanting to read a number of

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<v Speaker 1>books about coping with chronic back pain, and he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the spinal injury, the slippage of vertebrae, and the

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<v Speaker 1>spine that he had been suffering from. It says that

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<v Speaker 1>he had talked about suffering from backaches. This was on

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<v Speaker 1>his Reddit account related to this condition. Since childhood, but

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<v Speaker 1>aggravated the condition after that surfing lesson in Honolulu. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in July of last year, my back and hips

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<v Speaker 1>locked up after the accident, talking about intermittent numbness that

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<v Speaker 1>had become constant, he wrote, I'm terrified of the implications,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe worried about paralysis, I would imagine. He did not

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<v Speaker 1>talk about health insurance related to the surgery or treatment

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<v Speaker 1>related to United health Care, but did talk about past

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<v Speaker 1>struggles with health issues like lime disease severe brain fog.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that he started getting brain fog after losing

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<v Speaker 1>sleep during his fraternities hell week, caused his college grades

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<v Speaker 1>to fall, and he said they say he expressed frustration

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<v Speaker 1>about how little was understood by the medical community about

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<v Speaker 1>brain fog. He wrote that it's absolutely brutal to have

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<v Speaker 1>such a life halting issue. The people around you probably

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<v Speaker 1>won't understand your symptoms. They certainly don't for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>again the report was he went silent about six months

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<v Speaker 1>ago with friends and family.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, from everything that we've seen, we have yet

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out if he had a problem with insurance,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, obviously there would be multiple things

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<v Speaker 3>that he was dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from that much money, you don't have an insurance problems?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a concierge doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing that I've not quite you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't made that connection. I mean, it may simply be

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<v Speaker 3>the Brian Thompson exemplified to him the healthcare industry and

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't specific an insurance issue that he was fighting

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<v Speaker 3>back against.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and he was critical of AI and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was shot and killed was very much into AI

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<v Speaker 1>and using it in the healthcare industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are following the Franklin fire. There's fire burning

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<v Speaker 3>out in the Malibu area. Just updated numbers from cal Fire.

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<v Speaker 3>They've bumped up the acreage to twenty five hundred ninety

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<v Speaker 3>three acres. Getting a little more specific because they have

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<v Speaker 3>more information, it's a little easier during the daytime for

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<v Speaker 3>them to actually map out exactly what has burned. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>two five hundred ninety three acres have burned. Pepperdine University

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<v Speaker 3>was on a shelter in place protocol overnight, but they

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<v Speaker 3>have lifted that. They've said the conditions have I've shown

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<v Speaker 3>that the fire itself is burning away from the campus.

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<v Speaker 3>They said conditions are safer members of the community to

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<v Speaker 3>return to student residences and on campus homes. And they

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<v Speaker 3>said if you're not. If for some reason, you left

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<v Speaker 3>campus overnight to simply get out of the area, they said,

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<v Speaker 3>just wait, there will be a safer time for you

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<v Speaker 3>to go in there, partly because so many roads are close.

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<v Speaker 3>Pch we know is close through that area, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be harder to get back on campus if

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<v Speaker 3>you in fact left overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>May I please have some music, storytime music, like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sad storytime music. Yes, let me introduce you to

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<v Speaker 1>eighty year old Raymond Hallly. Raymond was terribly lonely. He

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<v Speaker 1>moved into a veteran's home in Bristol, Rhode Island. Pets

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<v Speaker 1>were not allowed at this home, and so we had

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<v Speaker 1>to give up his fourteen year old cat named Kevin.

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<v Speaker 5>True.

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<v Speaker 1>His mood, though, began to brighten when he was given

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<v Speaker 1>a robotic cat. Now, this robotic cat resembles a stuffed animal,

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<v Speaker 1>but looks and moves like the real thing. Raymond named

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<v Speaker 1>it Franklin to honor his real cat. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>give away both, named for his favorite president.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin moves, Meal's purrs like the live cat did. They

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<v Speaker 1>have sensors AI. They respond to sounds, touch and light.

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond says, even though I know my new pet isn't real,

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<v Speaker 1>it gives me the opportunity to have a private bond

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<v Speaker 1>once again. It's obvious to anyone who knows how to love.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about Alfred, I do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am this is on comfortable. Alfred Jarvis ninety two year

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<v Speaker 1>old guy, retired salesman. He had become belligerent as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of his Alzheimer's disease.

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<v Speaker 3>He would yell at his wife. He would curse at

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<v Speaker 3>his wife of seventy two years. At one time he

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed her arm so hard that he almost broke it.

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<v Speaker 3>Put him into an assisted living facility because obviously it

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<v Speaker 3>was getting dangerous. And his niece gave him a robotic cat,

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<v Speaker 3>and she said almost immediately he began to stroke the cat,

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<v Speaker 3>speaking into it and speaking to it in a soothing voice,

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<v Speaker 3>saying things like, don't be scared, It's going to be okay, patches.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is true. This happened in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother in law, when she was in the throes

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<v Speaker 1>of Alzheimer's, was super belligerent, and a woman who did

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<v Speaker 1>not curse began to curse personality GDSOB was her common refrain,

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<v Speaker 1>but the whole thing. And you would give her a

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<v Speaker 1>stuffed animal and she would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>She would talk to it, she would pet it.

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<v Speaker 1>She became very docile, demure, nice, caring for the stuffed animal,

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of it, and the belligerence would go away.

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<v Speaker 2>So we just filled the house with stuffed animals.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, I don't know what. Why can't we give

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<v Speaker 4>him a real cat?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they can't take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have Alzheimer's or their mobility is limited at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, doctor, But listen, could you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of your dog at ninety with Alzheimer's?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you could not.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you got the same benefits as a real

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<v Speaker 1>dog as you get from a stuffed animal or a

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<v Speaker 1>robot dog, hell yeah, I say give every.

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<v Speaker 2>Old person one of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they incapable of seeing that it's not a real dog.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Raymond knows that it's not real, but it gives

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<v Speaker 1>him the same benefit.

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<v Speaker 3>But Alfred believes it was a real dog because he

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<v Speaker 3>would say he thinks it's real and it calms him down.

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<v Speaker 4>And when we come to visit. He says, do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to hold Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>When you have someone with Alzheimer's. You'll let them believe

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<v Speaker 1>anything if it calms them down. You don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>An associate professor University of Pittsburgh's Division of Geriatric Medicine says,

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<v Speaker 3>the lovely thing about robotic pets is they don't bite.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to clean up after him. You could

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<v Speaker 4>take them anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>She says, I've seen older people take their pets finger

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<v Speaker 3>quotes to the grocery store and.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to them about their lives.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They are a way for an older adult with or

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<v Speaker 3>without dementia to have something to care for, and they

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<v Speaker 3>provide meaningful interaction for those who may be homebound.

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<v Speaker 4>We should get one. That's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We should get one for around here. Wouldn't that be fun?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We've just now been making inroads into cleaning out our

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<v Speaker 3>office and you want to buy more stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But the pet would would just walk around.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get one on Amazon. Look at this. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at this cat, Orange Tabby.

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<v Speaker 4>Cat walks around. That one just sits there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what wait, hold on, no, it says, cat like movements.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not walking.

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<v Speaker 5>It purrs.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's cat like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I wanted to walk around. I wanted to walk

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<v Speaker 1>around the whole station. How much do those go for?

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<v Speaker 3>You have to get like a Tesla robot dog. Look

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<v Speaker 3>up Boston Scientific Robot Dogs. This one has a heart beat.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it does not have a heartbeat. So we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys robot guys? Are we doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Please pull the trigger on this. I mean pull the no,

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<v Speaker 3>pull the rug out from under this. That's what I

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<v Speaker 3>meant to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pull the trigger on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Geez. I think it's an awful idea.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, I know when you say the two things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when you say when I'm in trouble or

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<v Speaker 1>you disagree with whatever it is, do.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know what they are?

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<v Speaker 4>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is jeez. Number two is if you say so,

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<v Speaker 1>those are your tells.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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