Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Peacemaker season
two review series. This is episode five plus two, which
means it's episode seven. Oh boy, I guess in the
podcast cast or Mischief Tess. Now go check out Marvel Llance.
I host that today with David, So there you go.
We're gonna change my name. I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I am Kirkland with an H. Kirkland.
Speaker 3: I'm the Walmere old Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: If you would, I guess you know, only me and
Kirkland are prepared for this episode with our nicknames Taylor
least prepared whatsoever.
Speaker 3: But it's a great nickname. It's very relevant.
Speaker 1: Sure, but they know we're here to talk about Peacemaker
as usual, we'll give our nonsports thoughts in case you'm
seeing an episode, we'll take an ad break and then
we'll go right into spoilers. So that's when all bets
are off. Check out. Obviously, Alien Earth ended last week,
so we got that, you know on the feeds. We
got one other TV got gen V happening right now.
I do my trast told you twice a week to
one of the beginning episode me reviewing the Smashing Machine.
So look out for that the rock movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be uh the face right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to tell me all about
that one. I'm not watching it.
Speaker 1: Why why wouldn't you watch that movie? It looks good
rock doing something different.
Speaker 2: For One's a lot of stuff out that just seems
way better than that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's awesome contender, that's fine, it's coming up.
I don't know about that. We'll see. It's a different,
different discussion topic.
Speaker 3: You're canceling that, I am.
Speaker 1: But if you, if you were asked me, what do
you think is gonna be better Smashing Machine or tront Aris,
I'm gonna say the guy that directed Uncut Gems is
probably gonna make a better movie the guy that directed
Dead Men the worst, which is the I got the
album already. I don't need to see the movie. It's
on my phone. I got that shit already, you know, which, you.
Speaker 3: Know didn't spoil the movie at all.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a couple of tracks that were
a little like, it's definitely gonna make sense. No, yeah,
thirty seconds to Tron what snow? But yes, lots of
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Speaker 2: What's up, Kirkle, interesting order of readoff.
Speaker 1: About John and Sam's retros.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you started from the back. That's like
then the alphabet backwards starts from the back, which I
play the Kurt angle working on that. I feel like
I just do that around the house sometimes should say
something I'm just trying to do my class with, like
the shoulder bounced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's going for it. But lots of big
stuff and yeah, actually life happening to you Knower eight.
But I'm gonna talk about that a little bit after
So to the field. What do you think penultimate episode
here of Peacemaker going into the finale. Obviously we're left
on a big thing last week as far as what
we're doing. Lots of stuff here obviously probably a harder
episode talking about a non spoils portion, but at least
did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I'll be in a shorter episode.
Speaker 1: It was still they're getting shorter and shorter. Man, thirty
three minutes, you fucking kidding.
Speaker 3: But again, the finale will be longer than the average episode, right,
so thirty nine minutes?
Speaker 1: So cool? He did say double no, it just could
be longer, and these episodes have been short, so like
means nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I definitely I had a lot of
fun with this episode. It had a couple of things
that just completely caught me off guard, but some action
in here that I was totally jabbing with. I was
really really liking it. Vigilante just I really really liked
him in this EPI. So that was really really good.
And we got a lot of really really intense traumatic
stuff going on with with Chris, and I thought, this
is just this is great. You know, Johnstone is doing
a really bang up job here and feeling the emotions
and yeah, everything that just is going on, Like, I
think I'm looking forward to bringing it down because see,
while it was shorter, there definitely was a lot that
was in here, and it didn't feel like it was
a shorter episode because we got a lot of really
good stuff in here. We got some uh just characters
that are just connected, not connected, but moments where we
have two characters together and they just get moments where
it's the one on one and you get to really
kind of take in a little bit more of this
their connections, they're ongoing narrative kind of just more development
as what we're trying to say. So I really appreciate
that that this episode had that for being. You know,
next week is the finale, but in this week's episode,
it was action packed. We got a lot of progression
with our characters development and everything. So I think this
episode kind of just hit all the points for me
really and I'm kind of pretty happy with it. And again, comedically,
comedic wise, there was just a lot of really funny
beats right when the episode starts, hence my nickname. It
just fucking cracked me up. I was just like man
to be like hired to do something like that, just
to be like man, I know you're getting paid for it,
but still, I mean, we'll break it down and spoilers,
but it still has to be like man, it's just
uncomfortable to do something like that. But to each his
own scene.
Speaker 1: Wasn't in this episode too? Was last week? Still?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Although this was a short episode, I think there was
a lot in here, even though it was only thirty
three minutes. I really really enjoyed this. I think there's
some really great acting in here, some good emotional stuff
that just really surprised me. Like it was just really
impressive with yeah, like the level that the actor got too,
so that was really impressive and good action, good just
comedy in there too, Like I just felt like a
nice can call. Why am I trying to do a
difficult word? It was a mixture of a fun yeah.
Subsequently it was just yeah, it was a really good time.
I'm totally vibing just with this season as a whole
right now. I feel like the last few weeks but
just been positive thumbs up. So I'm I'm really really
just vibing with with the show. It's gonna be sad
that it's gonna be over after next week, but it's
been it's been fun and uh honestly, it's got me
like more excited for the future of DC content with
James gunn Kind of leading leading the charge there. I'm
I'm just kind of yeah, impressed with where I'm at
because I feel like I was, for whatever reason, just
stand offish. I'm like, yeah, let's wait and see how
how well this this universe plays out. But I like Superman,
I'm liking this. So yeah, I'm liking where we're going.
And yeah, I think that's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I thought this was a really good episode. Two.
It might be my favorite. I don't think that's like
saying much because I don't think there's been like, oh,
every week I've had episode I love this one.
Speaker 3: That one.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all been varying degrees to mid
to fine to like, okay, that was pretty good with
Obviously there's some good gags along the way. But I
thought this was a good one. Got some good action here.
I got some revelations in here from our world and
the alternate world, some that were very surprising, one in
particular that I was quite caught off guard and then
the result of that I was also caught off guard
as well. So and yeah, I will say that. Actually,
I think I don't know if it was a highlight
of the episode, but I do think vigilante. There's something about,
like it's minor spoilers, the two of them teaming up.
It's all been seen in trays when it's like something
about the two of them worked better than the one
of them for me. I don't know why. But I
also think visional suits look really good, like walking together.
I know, they just look like a unit. They look
like you would not want to mess with these guys.
Speaker 3: Definitely in this season.
Speaker 2: They don't fuck around.
Speaker 1: Oh they're taking in right. So yeah, it's just one
of the things that I really enjoy this two man
power trip. There's a couple like just small notes I
have about some jokes that they set up that didn't
really work for me because it just was kind of convoluted.
But yeah, I think it's left me though, in a
place because I feel like we all fumbled into spoilers.
I think if you would have said, hey, how's the
season gonna end, we would say X, Y and Z
and something like that. I do think this put us
in a situation where I don't exactly know what where
the finale is going to take us, because it feels
like this could have this could have been the finale,
which is kind of a good thing. So hopefully next
week there's some interesting things that come from and it's
not Maybe it's what Game of Thrones used to do, right,
Maybe it's the penultmate's really big, and then the finale
is just very calm, and that's that's fine if there's
good character stuff. Game of Thrones had some great finalites,
but that was always the thing, right as far as
big penultamen in that, So it was always a cool down, right.
And I don't know, because James Gunn said is like
season three is not being plammed. It's like not off
the table. He say, these characters gona appear in other stuff.
I'm not sure if that's gonna be that Waller show
that they've been working on. I still think you'll get
a season three eventually of this, but we know peacemakers
in Superman. It sounds like. So it's tough when I
don't know how much of a cool down you want
to go. You want to maybe end on a high
if you don't have a season three coming right away.
But uh yeah, good performances throughout. I thought there was
actually one scene in particularly that SNA wasn't It was
an emotion scene. Wasn't he wasn't as good as he was.
So before Krikland cut me off with the tron stuff,
that's I was like, I can't wait to see Smashing
Machine tonight. And then I get to keep going back
and forth between Rock and scene because I still I
know people, you know that's been a big debate. I
at the beginning of Piece Makers that I was team Rock,
and I feel like after Smash Machine I'm gonna be
so solidified on team Rock because there's just I just
there's a certain screen that scene it did tonight, and
I was like, there gotta be another take of this.
It's just it. They're going for something and it just
didn't work. So I thought that was a little weaker.
But on that a good episode and I'm interested to
see where we end off on all this. So anything
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Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Is my name engraved into it? I thought we were
supposed to get that done, of course. See okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's unengraved it because of the key first cup, you know,
so that's that's the trophy title into a trophy. Uh,
let's see, says the Woke Dragon. Yeah, that did come true.
I agree. The next episode doesn't seem like a finale
unless they're hiding a lot of which they could, says
I suppose. Yeah, And that's the thing where I don't
know what they're going to take from that. Maybe we'll
get to that once we talk about everything. But so
in this episode, we picked up right where we left
off where this was so fun. We were telling about
this last week because Mike was his complaint, or I
only think complaint. I think it was a valid critique
as far as hey, I get this to this, but
how does Chris not notice? And we're okay, like the
flag and everything when you notice that, and Ta said
like how long would it take you to notice? But
then when she's like, oh you don't see you know
all these books and this and now like you didn't
see the mural and then it was tilli Amrrell Hitler
was like, okay, they maybe I liked the joke, but
then they did almost go too far, like okay, maybe
that is almost too obvious, like how the fuck did
he not notice that? But we open up that way
he said, oh, our Court, I think we're gonna break up.
She goes, why, because what I'm gonna do? And then
they kick ass. They get out of there, and officially
him and our Prime Peacemaker and Hardcourt are on the
run from the police. And uh yeah. I also, I
don't know if we're gonna get next week. But I
was wondering for being a Rookflake junior year and we didn't,
So I'm wondering if we're seeing that character gain or
was it just for the joke, you know, And if
it was just for the joke, I'm a little.
Speaker 3: I think you'll see him. I think I help team up.
You know, Argus is gonna go with I can't remember
Peacemaker's brother's name. They're gonna go with him and yeah, Keith,
they're gonna come into the real world, and I think
you're gonna get some interesting dynamics there.
Speaker 1: Do you have time for that?
Speaker 3: No, this is the season three that's absolutely another future
season thing that that storyline for now has been wrapped
up though if for this season, I don't think we're
back period. I think we're just gonna deal with the
fallout of Rick Flke sor and and Chris and all that.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I just was like taking a
back when Gun said, like, there's no immediate plans for
season three, so it's like we're gonna be waiting a
while until we get this storyline. Because I agree with you,
it seemed like that was closed off for I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to see his wife in any Moore intimate scenes
for a while with uh Peacemaker, that's the show.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to he doesn't have to see it.
He can see her do whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what he writes her to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing even happen in this episode. Continue on.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I I oh, sorry, Taylor, No, they're on
the bike.
Speaker 1: She was hugging him on the bike.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, that's that's exactly rubbing up into it.
I'm a little disappointed that.
Speaker 2: We didn't get like any more Rick Flagg Junior. I
thought that the Grill Master Frank Gorilla was gonna be
entering this universe and then that's when he would have
interact with him. But obviously that didn't occur. So yeah,
a little disappointed that we will begetting that in this season.
And I like, sure, yeah, it's a little breadcrumb for
the future, but it's if James Gunn himself said that
there's not really any media plans for that season like
that could also just never happen, right, Like plans change
all the time. I just judging on this season, it's
a little bit disappointing that we're not getting any more
of that, because you know, just as a season, it
is just a joke that Rick Flake in your appearance
as now at least yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll have to see they get out of there.
We pick up back with Ads who's running from all
the races. This was a joke where it's like, I
get what they're going for, but it made no sense
for her to like jump in the pool, like like
when she's running and she jumps in the pool, it
was just to set up Tjudeo Master to shock them
to make the joke later. It's like, you wouldn't be
faster that way, it made it made zero sense for her,
like I rather they just like I just don't just.
Speaker 2: It follows and that's how they take out the monster
and it follows, yeah, the same plan.
Speaker 1: Like all you need is the people to grab her
and they fall in the pool. That's all you need.
Like you don't like it just was a weird choice
for her to jump in the pool to start swimming away.
Speaker 3: I take it as she couldn't go around because the
pool is too big and it wasn't like enough. I
mean it's a quick cut scene.
Speaker 1: See what's that big? It was just a regular size pool.
Speaker 3: You have to hold like thirty people in there.
Speaker 1: Okay, but so what's so you say it was so
big it would have been fast for her to swim
exhausted across the pool then just walk on the land.
Never you're going down the zombie Apocalypse.
Speaker 2: Day, you'd be doing you're swimmer.
Speaker 1: No, I'm but not not when it's like that, not
when the ground's right there, just.
Speaker 2: Walkingach, you're choosing the water versus running on land.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, I guess we'll we Finally, Tudo Master,
he saves her, He takes her back to the universe.
He gives her the hole. And this is exactly what
I was talking about a couple episodes ago. Remember I
think it was episode two or three, where there was
an entire, like thirty minute episode of just Johnson explained
at a barrow, like what was going on with the
other universe and his brother at this they give Judo Master.
One scene, he sits down, tells everything, Okay, let's play
scrabble or scrabble boom, perfect exposition he got. Yeah, I
read history books, the Nazis one. Yeah, yeah, it was
this is this. It seems like you can't be gay,
you can't be a different color. It just sucks here,
you know, Like and then Jesus, Yeah, she's like Jesus,
like yeah, they like him, but like like that's where
it's like this was perfect, and this to me show
that Gun can do this. Gun can do this in
his fucking sleep explain. Then that's where I just I
wonder in the alternate universe because Maddy was asked her
to discore like how we all felt about the season overall.
It's like I don't want like the you know, Disney
Plus six episode event, but I do wonder I feel
like this would have worked a little bit better. But yeah,
she gets all the information to play scrabble. He's in some
Cheetos with the h at the end, and again too
with Judo Masters. Never I'm like, I'm super annoyed, but
I never care like too much about the character. But
I enjoyed him this episode. So I enjoyed pretty much
all the Judo Master content I think for the most part.
So that worked for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was simple, clean
and like, yeah, he has a smart plan, like we'll
just chill here until nighttime and then we'll go back
to the door and then you know, like we'll just
go that route. It it was logical, it made sense.
It's not like there was some elaborate scheme to like
overcomplicate it. And I feel like it just made the
character seem intelligent and I am enjoying this character, which
is I don't know, I feel like I it was
whatever in season one, but here in season two, it
seems like it's evolving a little bit. And then similar
to what you were theorizing with Tim Meadows in previous
episodes of how you potentially might join the team, I
could definitely see that. It seems like that's already kind
of halfway there with with just how he was bonding
with Ads, and I just like the two of them
together too.
Speaker 1: Even at the end, like obviously he went over to
Rick Flag seeing here it's like the tenny's with them,
but he's still covered for them, right when John gives
the stories ag is that how it went down? It's like, yeah,
that's what it seems like to me. So it does
seem like he could be a potential member. And uh
yeah he didn't actually do I he's not like a
little fighting, but I thought we were actually gonna see
him pop off the way Vigilante got to pop killed.
Speaker 2: However many people was it twenty two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a quick scene there, but I thought.
Speaker 3: Never killed in a four with the telephone wire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell your thoughts on Judle Master this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked how we got to see a different
side of him here and just working with the working
with the crew and kind of like just not being
a total closed off jerk, but he's just kind of
opening up a little bit and he kind of is
starting to see through the lines of what everyone else
sees when it comes to Peacemaker and all that. So
I thought it was I thought his performance in here
was great and I was really enjoying it. And uh yeah,
I liked when he had that dialogue with with Vigilante,
the two of them and he's like, what's that on
your chest? Looks like there's come on your chest? That
was like, great, why do you want to come on
my chest? It's just fucking great dialogue. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was great because sometimes that stuff doesn't hit.
But that hole back and forth like that symbols awful
and the two Vigilantes together and what's his favorite Pokemon?
You won't believe it. It's it's the same as mine
and all this stuff, and I was actually I get
because he has to save his world. But for a
second I thought that Vigilanti is gonna go with him
because he was just going everywhere, and.
Speaker 3: But that was something cool. Since scene though, when he
like when oh my gosh, by I forget her name.
Emilia Hardcourt yeah, she's just like she like dolphin dies
backwards and lands there in slow motion, Vigilante just does
this fucking like triple aerial roundhouse kick and like kicks
the door closed, Like oh that was fucking badass.
Speaker 1: Robbed her of ensuring her life safety though, right because
she which I liked. I like that peacemakers out of there,
and keis just all fucking broke and everything, dying but
not dead, and she's gonna put him down.
Speaker 2: But but it's like, what, why even do that? Why
I even be like time to stop you from chasing us?
And then she doesn't even get the shot off, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like I think she felt bad about it.
Speaker 3: It was so stupid. I hear that.
Speaker 2: I hated that so much, like have the same results,
but he don't even have that, like have her just
jump through the door, do the cool biauette thing that
Taylor can shout it out.
Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to show she has some
human emotion there, right, So she's like telling this guy
like I don't want to kill you, but I kinda
I kind of have to write, which was an interesting well,
but she was trying to but then she didn't get
to so yeah, obviously it's not gonna go good for her,
but that that was an interesting thread throughout this episode
where so they're and we didn't get that explained. They're
chasing ads. Keith gets to call it come back. You think, oh,
we're doing something really important. He's like Robert Patrick, No,
the dad. He's like, no, this is way more important
than what you're doing right now. Get here. Now he
gets there, same thing. Nice exposition dump takes fifteen to
twenty seconds, keeps updating everything. There we go. Episode continues,
but they say what's happening, and then as you know,
they get the Peacemakers running away from the cops, which
I do like that scene. I don't take my joke
on it, but I like the scene of Hardcourt laying
against them and him like grabbing her, which I feel
like finally, it's like, oh, like like finally, now maybe
she's revealing some feelings. Might be a little too late
obviously for the situation, but I like that felt like
Peacemaker did not really put up a fight with these cops,
Like I just I know their cops, so I just
felt like he just pulled over. I was like, you
got me. I was expecting at Chase Sina, I was like, oh,
did we lose in the budget here? Like were we out?
You know, did Robert Patrick cost too much this season?
I don't know. But it's just like they pull over
Blue Demon or Blue Dragon and whatever Key's heroes name
called the land Dan just Keith, Yeah, they land down.
They massacre all these cops. They kill them all, not
even like trying to the bad guys though, right, well yes,
and know though because then Blue trit when she says
that hardcourt, it's like you killed the innocent people, and
he's like, cops, No, they're not an innocent here, which
again that was good because Ad said that, and he
said that he's like, oh, I know, it must be
perfect over there, which I'm not saying all cops are bad,
but again, obviously there's a lot the cops with the
reputation of abusing authority right through the path, well through
our entire generations, though right I think even more so
now because of body cams and social media that stuff spread.
So but I did like that inference of him being like, yeah,
the cops, there's no good cops here, which is just like, well,
that's been all the good cops are good where we are,
So that's what I'm saying though, Like I don't think
his dad was a bad guy, which is odd because
I feel like everybody we talked about like, well, okay,
if he was racist in that one universe that had
like where the Nassis didn't win, he has to be
really bad here, right, Yeah, And it seems like Keith
maybe was maybe the more like racial like hal little fear,
you know, like that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took it like because the universes are it's
not just like a different universe, it's just really swapped, Like, Okay,
the Nazis won, so then his dad was so bitter
and angry from his universe like the prime Peacemaker's dad
and then here because that the stuff didn't occur like
I thought it was just because the Nazis one, he's
happy now, But it wasn't that case. Actually, it was
just a total moral alignments like switch of the character,
which was such a big surprise and like a pleasant,
a pleasant surprise, like yeah, I really loved all the
sequences leading up to that point. I ended up enjoying
that point too, because of course, I'm just like, for
fuck's sakes of course this happens, which which is great.
I wouldn't have changed that by any means at all,
but just for the sake of like Chris like peacemaker
and and just loosen his dad right in front of
him again, having Keith like held down and he's having
PTSD flashbacks when he actually just stabbed his son.
Speaker 3: It's it's fucked up.
Speaker 2: There's there's weird humor in there, but like it's I
don't know, it was just so good. I was chewing
all that up. And I love the switch of the dad.
I love how like he was just a genuine nice guy.
It's like, well I believe that you know you didn't
actually let him go, Like I I loved how all
that was playing out. And I feel like some people
might be like it's too easy, but like it wasn't
really easy because obviously it was complicated. Vigilante Squared came
in and stabbed it.
Speaker 1: I don't choose where I live to trying to make
the best choices. So when I face God one day,
he'll know him a good man.
Speaker 2: And I love that the shot goes like Aconomo strapped
to the chair.
Speaker 3: He's like fuck.
Speaker 1: And just like and the second they had that shot,
which is good block when the same thing got that
shot where Robert Patrick walks and there's like the windows
clearly in the center frame, it's like, oh no, he's
shot him through the window too, And it was so
much worse, like in a good way. It wasn't just
like a shot, which actually would have made sense because
like Chris shot his dad, right, it would like this
ended up being so much for his of vigilante breaking
through the window and just shaking this fucking guy in
the throat wall. He said, he's in mid hero speech, right,
That's where it's that's where they showed this character. He's
not a racist, he's not a Nazi, but he's in
this world where he and said to Hardcourt's like, oh
do you fight every injustice that you see? He must
be a perfect person. He's he's admitting like, I don't
agree with what people are doing, but I can only
do so much as one guy, right, And then as
he says that he gets killed, Yeah, just just Chris
shaking his dad's body. He wasn't a Nazi. He wasn't.
It's just but then Keith on the other end does
not seem like they're like you were chasing answer, Yeah,
well they got out, which they didn't. I would. I
don't know if anything more next week. They didn't explain
more that as far as like where are they, how
they round them up, like like obviously like yeah, nazis one,
but just when he's like, yeah, I haven't seen one
in a while. I was wondering if we can get
a little bit more of the world building there, maybe
that'll come. It's not colle they just they.
Speaker 3: Just say camps, right, I mean that's yeah. I mean
I don't know what else you really build off of that. Really,
I think it's just playing off of what was just
created in World War Two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I guess so, I guess it. But didn't
they didn't They want to eradicate different races, Like if
they're being kept around like concentration camps, you should just
let to all these people being killed, right, So why
are like what are they? Why are there are people
still alive to get out? Is what I'm saying. In
this world where they're just running rough shot, I guess
they're maybe just doing all the worst jobs in the
world and ever run's living a clean life. But again
I thought we'd get a little bit more, but I
think we're done that world, and we didn't see like
a Superman or anything like that. And I think that's
fine because I like, even last week, Gun did refer
to as Earth X. So it's not like, oh, this
was an inspire by Earth X, like he says it's
Earth X, So that to me implies that we're not
I'm not saying like, oh, next Project Man tomorrow, but
I'm saying I think there's a high chance we could
go back here multiple times, even whether it's Keith or whatnot,
Like we can return here because there's many times in
the conc where it's like, yeah, there is a bad
version of this here, Betverzette. So it's probably best they
didn't bite off more. They could chew this season and
show us everything, right, like here's n Nazi Superman, Here's
Nazi Bruce Wayne or whatever it may be. Like, I
think they showed a nice, well not a nice a
terrible slice of life, but you know, a slice life nonetheless.
So but yeah, Taya, what do you think about Robert
Patrick actually seeming to be, you know, much more decent
than he was in the the other universe where Keith.
Maybe he's a bit more hardened by this world and
he was not gonna let that Chris go. Seems like
he's probably fine with, you know, the bad stuff going on.
So what do you take from the family values here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the actor you know, popping off in Tulsa King.
It's great to see him, you know, all over the place.
Speaker 1: Ah fuck, I can't believe Taylor's Taylor's internet just got
lost again, you know. But no, he's back. He's gonna
try and hit some more Tulsa King, and I'm just
gonna hit him with shut the fuck as tomorrow is
what are way? October three? October fourth, come up from
me and girls, stop trying to make Tulsa King happen.
You know, Taylor, It's okay, go go go. You know,
you can do volunteer work. There's tons of stuff in
colomb where you can go and visit old folk centers.
You can go there. And everyone's talking about Tulsa King,
I promise you. Over the little pool table or the
tail where they knit, they're talking all about Sly Saloon.
Robert Patrick.
Speaker 2: You know, my boss was going off about tuls King
and I love it too, because everybody that praises his
tulse king. They're all like, that's sly man, that's he
still got it. He's got that, he's got it.
Speaker 1: Threw a slice on like that motherfucker. Have you ever
have you ever watched Delirious or Raw with Eddie Murphy.
He's because he's talking about how much oh yeah, stand donkey,
and he's like, and guess what's sly? He gets him
again in this one, you know, off slide for some reason.
It's the old people ahead or Patrick Yes.
Speaker 3: Roar Patrick. Yeah. I I liked him a lot of
this stuff. So I liked that he was just the
opposite what he was in the other universe. I liked
that he was just, uh, you know, good guy. Well,
you know, not a He was a murderer for sure,
but he was trying to make peace with what he could.
You know. He just fights the battles that are in
front the monsters that are in front of him and
whatnot and uses that to just like do good where
he can. And I again, when as are not ads
a hardcourt, it's just like, yo, you're a Nazi and
he just gets super offended by that, like I'm not
a Nazi. It just it makes it makes sense. I
wasn't expecting that, but it makes sense. And I liked
when he was so sincere, like let's you know, you
guys are gonna we're gonna round you up. You guys
are gonna get out of here, You're gonna go back,
and how he was disgusted at the other version of
him that he saw his doppelganger back in the day.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of.
Speaker 3: Development there that I really really liked. But you it's
unfortunate that he died. I really want him to live.
But yeah, just that whole fucking scene where it frames
it up perfectly and you see Vigilante coming in the background.
The fuck they're gonna kill him, And like, you guys,
I thought he was gonna get shot for sure, but
uh yeah, I no. I I felt really bad because
you think, Okay, maybe it's just gonna be one like
Knife Saburn or Vigilance. She just fucking shanks some twenty
times in his neck and then Keith is just freaking
the fuck out. It's just absolute pandemonium. Keith shoots Vigilante
and then he get what is his name? I can't
remember from who the fuck did this scary movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he was a guy in season one, right,
he was a character.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him in season.
Speaker 1: I think he was Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think he was a roll in there that got me
though in the door fucking open and I saw that,
Oh shit, that's that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why it also made sense too when
he wanted to warn He's like, you're you're not coming
in here, like you need a warn. I was like,
why is he being so just like I know he
wants to handle situation, but he was so against the police.
But again he next sentence later he talked about how
not all the police are good, right.
Speaker 3: So and weird too. When he was just trying to
break down what he's saying about the other Chris when
he's looking at Keith's like, you know, I love Chris
a lot, but you know he wasn't devoid of having problems.
You have the drugs and the alcohol and all that
kind of stuff. Cycle, are you implying that you're glad
that he died and it was just an accident, Like
it's hard to understand where he's.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. I feel like he almost was
like he shares that with his doppel ganger, where I
feel like Robert Patrick in Prime One wouldn't have been
that mad if Chris was dead, right, Like, I feel
like they did that in the church Ship. So it
is kind of funny. But I think this, I think
this is kind of like a I think what they're
because obviously we learned he was an addict, right. I
think it's kind of like with anybody else, if you
have someone that has major diction, you hope for the best,
but I bet there's times where if they go missing
or they're gone, you just kind of expect that at
some point you're just gonna find them dead, you know,
like you still love them. But it's almost like he's
talking about him like he was lost and you know, oftoly,
we don't know the state of him then, because when
Keith first saw me, he's like, oh, you're off the
pills right and everything. So I don't know. That could
have been a recent thing, right where they got him
to rehab or got him to stop, like it literally
could have been within the last couple of weeks of
that happening where they think he's on the men and stuff.
So that that's how I kind of took it that
he just knew that his son at some point was
going to be downwardspiring. And he's not too surprised because,
you know, and even then when he tells the story
about how he attacked him, everything, he doesn't take that.
He doesn't seem that shocked by it. You know, He's like, oh, yeah,
I believe him, right, So I bet it's just kind
of a situation where they've probably been on missions and
he's seen him be you know, overly aggressive or violent
when he didn't really need to be. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
and Kirkling, you did or someone brought I think it
was Kirkling. But but Espo's bring up that Gun has
now said on Threads that the finale is longer than
fifty seven minutes. So it is fifty eight minutes. Why
does he do these things? Why he just not get
the full run time? Why do you say it's longer
than fifty seven minutes? You know?
Speaker 3: Why just speaking riddle?
Speaker 2: Yeah, always my wife may or may not get railed
by John.
Speaker 1: Cena, And that's the whole fifty seven minutes. It was
just in hell watch this episode. It's just like you
remember the last time. It's a shame. It's just that.
But Johnson just the full face and everything.
Speaker 3: Oh my, like the grimy eb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think I have everything. The
big we talked about last week. They're like, oh, was like,
oh I got someone free to meet, which just his
fucking other sigh guy from Superman. I'd say, gun, don't
do that because people spent like a week speculating and
everyone's like, oh, it's just this fucking guy. Like just
say the guy though. Yeah. Did you see the ant
credit too with him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: Fucking forgot about that again.
Speaker 1: Well, he just was gonna masturbate and it was like
that's really what it.
Speaker 3: Was, Okay, but the guards smiling next to him too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The end credit is like, oh, well with this. He's
at the computer hacking and he looks around and no
one's like a couple of guys are there, but it
looks like he's done. He's like, well, with this free time,
I'm gonna get back on porn hub and he like
spits in his hand and the guard's like just staring
at him. He's like, all right, I'm gonna drown this
laptop and then he takes off his pants and they
go to credits and it's like, I don't know, I
just I don't know why I need to know that,
Like Lex Luthor's like lacky over here, just like masturbating
in front of people. Just sometimes again it's.
Speaker 3: Just James got just putting in his his you know.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just I think it works in
certain situations, but I just they're not need it, you know,
And I didn't find it funny, so uh, Daddy Roosters.
As the final episode is going through, Dimension is going
to be good. I hope that could be fun. But
if it's just like I don't know, if it's just
like cameo porn or different multiverse, Like I need still
a story reason, Like I don't need. I don't just
need like what's to this store? What's to the store.
It's like that's a cool short. I need like an
actual Okay, what's going on with Chris, like other than
him just being locked up, Like what's his what's his arc? Now?
Obviously in his arc in this episode was he's decided
that he's what's wrong, he's the terrible person. He's like
it doesn't matter what to Mension, He's just like the
Angel death, like everything that happens, you know, he's the
bad guy. So and again, I don't know what they're
gonna do with him if there is no season three.
Feels like that'd be a crazy like to resolve that
in the in the next week, because I just like
in Superman, he's gonna be back to like, hey, fuck you,
Big Blue, Like he's gonna be back to like the
peace maker we love. I don't think Superman's gonna meet
him and it's gonna be depressed Chris, like I just
can't stand what happened in my life. Like whatever happens
next week, he's gonna get over it. So that's what
I'm more interested. But sure, let's see some let's see
some doors, you know, anything as we in this off
anything you guys are looking for in the finale.
Speaker 3: Well those doors could have Robert Pattinson's Batman behind.
Speaker 1: Nope, that I will fail the season if if I
said one fucking Robert pass and slightest.
Speaker 2: That's like yeah, in credit, it's like we got work
to do.
Speaker 1: No, he's in the laptop. He's like, don't mind men,
you look at your poorn you have in this dimension.
Speaker 3: And his head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like That's why if anyone asks me why I
want them separated, That's why I don't want some fucking
remember the guy that marries bats like you have no
jurisdiction here going. I don't need like fucking end credit
where he's like, I'm just gonna take a second, Like
I just say, that's what I always know how my
voice cover, Yeah, suckings of cock my own, Like I
just I don't want to risk anything happening. And again
Jameson's character so he can do that, But I do
not want to see any Patterson near this universe, near
John Cena whatsoever. Keep him separate. My god, very sad.
Batman was supposed to be at day. Have you guys
seen those posts go around? It's original day.
Speaker 3: To be out like a year ago.
Speaker 1: No, today was the original date, twenty twenty five, October third,
and so we would been seeing the Thursday we've been
with you next year, right, but no, no, it's two
years from now. But now we're talking about this guy
mass Now.
Speaker 2: I wish you didn't even bring that up. That just
made it so much more.
Speaker 3: So he forced it into the future so we could
be because you want to put Peacemaker out now and
Superman all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: A peacemaker, I don't think like No, remember Matt Rezels
had stuff going on. The delayed it, so it's not
just a James gun.
Speaker 3: Is the new super for Men Man tomorrow? Is that
coming out next year?
Speaker 1: No, it's coming out like three or four months before
the Batman. It's chus this guy, what's he supposed to do?
He can't wait around for Matt Reeves's supposed to trike
with an iron heart. Hot Dars says, if our pass
and is in one of dimensions going to blow, that's
that's good. If he's one of dimensions, this is gonna
be me next to say, I'll be mall taking a
vague leap out of here. No Robert Passing whatsoever. Cast
your own Batman, Let's keep let's he says, he wants
to elseworlds man, Let's get fucking else worlds going. This
is your fucking show me, show me your cards, you know,
show all's worlds.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be Robert Pattinson's Batman. Just just trapped James.
Is James the one singing to yeah, of course, what
you trapped?
Speaker 1: He can't get out?
Speaker 3: What have you done?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna happen, but just who knows? So
anything else?
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna get a bike before the
end of the season. He didn't get this peace bike
into into the universe, right, I didn't get the chance.
Or is he gonna go back and get it.
Speaker 1: I think we could get the episode and he's making
a bike, or we could see him with a peace
cycle in Superman. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's a pretty sick bike. I hope he
gets something cool like that. Oh and I forgot to
shout out. But when he does the jetpack with Marker,
that got me too. He like goes slamming into the
door or sorry, into the wall through the glass. It's
just yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Harcourt's reaction is what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Chris?
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 3: Very dangerous.
Speaker 2: She didn't have a helmet on like that could have
just been fatal.
Speaker 1: Imagine that he killed her too. The problem? All right,
We'll be back next week for the Family of Peacemaker.
Should be a fun episode to talk about. Review. You
see what's going on, and I promise you it'll not
be boring.