WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.360 Two dot Org. 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:11.199 KCAA is your CNBC News abiliate where the station that 3 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.400 gets down to business. 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.519 The information discussed on this show is not intended or 5 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:21.719 implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.839 or treatment. All content is for general informational purposes only. 7 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:36.119 It's Guys Guy Radio. Here's your host, Robert Manny. 8 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:42.079 Welcome to Guys Guys Radio. This is your host, Robert Manny, 9 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.719 welcoming you to the show where men and women can 10 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.880 be at their best and everyone wins. Guys Guys Radio. 11 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:54.039 We're here to inform you, inspire you, empower you, and 12 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.880 get you to think, feel, and who knows, maybe even 13 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:02.640 act by virtue of the journeys, stories, experiences and insights 14 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.560 of the guests I bring you each and every week 15 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.640 to the show. Once again, this week is no exception. 16 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.560 Today we're going to talk about conscious and powerful aging 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:16.640 with special guest David Emerson Frost. You know, folks, you 18 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.640 ask yourself the question at a certain point in life, 19 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:26.000 is aging inevitable? Or is decline optional? Today, I'm going 20 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.519 to sit down with fitness trainer and author David Emerson Frost. 21 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:34.640 He's written two books, Kaboomer about obviously baby Boomer staying 22 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.840 strong and also strong to save his fitness book about 23 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.439 gen X, and we're going to break down the truth 24 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.480 about longevity, strength and what it really takes to stay 25 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.760 powerful as we age. We're going to talk about why 26 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:53.120 strength beats cardio after age forty, the mindset that separates 27 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.560 thriving from declining, and how men and guys guys can 28 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.000 reclaim their edge without losing their soul. Folks, this one 29 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.599 hits hard and might just change how you think about 30 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.959 getting older. My special guest today on Guys Guys Radio 31 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.680 David Emerson Frost. He's an amazing guy fitness trainer, rowing coach, 32 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.800 and champion and he's got a lot of insights to 33 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.280 share with us on today's program. 34 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.240 It's Guys Guy Radio. 35 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.560 Okay, Guys Guys Radio is the interview portion of our show, 36 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.759 and you know, Guys Guys Radio is really it's your 37 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.639 home for everything from relationships to personal growth and purpose. 38 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:34.879 And today we're going to talk about something that every 39 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:37.960 man and woman on this planet is dealing with. And 40 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.680 we've talked to about this subject before on the show, 41 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.000 but we're going to talk about once again aging because 42 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.919 I think it's just so important. Now I'm an aging boomer, 43 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.400 as is my guest I'm going to introduce. But what 44 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.639 if aging didn't have to mean decline? I mean, everybody 45 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:54.280 hits who hits seventy always hears the word old. And 46 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.879 we've been given certain roles to play and it doesn't 47 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:58.680 have to be that way. And I've always said that, 48 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.439 and I'm so glad my guest feels the same way. 49 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.560 So what if getting older actually meant getting stronger physically, mentally, 50 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:09.479 even spiritually. Well, today, our guest is David Emerson Frost. 51 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.560 Let me tell you a little bit about him. He 52 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:16.560 is an NFPT certified Master Fitness trainer, a rowing coach, 53 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.960 a champion competitor, and an award winning adjunct professor. After 54 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:24.840 he completely decorated careers in US Navy and business world, 55 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.199 he found Well Past forty, LLC to promote health span 56 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.599 and lifespan for people in middle age and beyond. And 57 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.520 he's a US Navy veteran. And he's got two books 58 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.840 we're going to talk about today. One is called Kaboomer 59 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:41.879 Thriving and Striving into your nineties and also Strong to Save. 60 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.879 The new one, which is eugen X imperative to die 61 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:50.120 harder and later. So welcome to Guys Guys Radio, David Emerson. 62 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.800 Frost, Robert, what a pleasure, and thank you for sharing. 63 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.360 I think those subtitles are provocative. They were meant to be. 64 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.719 And if you were to ask me, Robert, what would 65 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.759 I define a Guys guy? It would be a guy 66 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.840 that wants to die harder and later. Yeah, to be 67 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:10.159 late to your own funeral if you can. 68 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.280 I don't know if I want to die harder, but 69 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.080 I want to die later. So anyhow, welcome to the show. 70 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.920 You know, what was it that inspired your focus on 71 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.720 longevity and redefining age through strength? I asked you that 72 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.439 because in my case, I saw the labels that have 73 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.439 been put on us throughout our lives. You're a kid, 74 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:32.120 you're ther student, you're the early young worker, you're the father, 75 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.279 you're the husband, and each each decade we get a 76 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.920 different role, and then they start to phase you out corporately, 77 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:42.680 and then you're determined that you're old. And it doesn't 78 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.759 have to be that way. Because when I turned seventy 79 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.759 last year, I felt as good, if not better, than 80 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.199 I did when I was fifty. I've run three marathons. 81 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.560 I don't run marathons anymore, but I feel fantastic. My 82 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.279 energy levels up, and I'm so pleased to find a 83 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.360 kindred spirit in you. What inspired you to go along 84 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:02.879 this path? Also? 85 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:07.839 Thank you. I, like many people, had, life happened Robert 86 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.920 in two thousand and one. September of two thousand and one, 87 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:16.680 I severely herniated a disc in my lower back. And 88 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.240 I thought I was a pretty tough guy as a competitor, 89 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:24.879 and I had religious pain that I tried to endure, 90 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:30.160 do all sorts of everything from steroid shots to aggressive therapy. 91 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:34.959 I ultimately went the invasive route to have my spine fused, 92 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.240 and I'm glad I did because that's what got me 93 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:46.240 into physical training and renewing my competitive lifestyle and trying 94 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.560 to inspire others. So it was my defining moment, what 95 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.680 I call my Phoenix moment, was a personal injury and 96 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.279 my own lessons learned. Robert. I thought I might be 97 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.319 able to share with others because life does happen, doesn't it. 98 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.560 That's fantastic. So let's start with your first book, Kaboomer, 99 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.040 Thriving and Striving into your nineties. I love that into 100 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.279 your nineties. What does the title mean? And who is 101 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.000 this book really for? Who are you talking to here? Boomers? 102 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.879 Yes? So my first book, Generational second one was as well, 103 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:22.240 but Kaboomer was my attempt to share looking at the 104 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.199 man in the mirror and looking at the woman in 105 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.800 the mirror. I think it's very important because I know 106 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.920 you have many women listeners, that things like longevity, health 107 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.680 span and so on. Strength span are equally as important 108 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.199 for ladies as they are for guys. So that's why 109 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:40.160 the book covers have men and women on them. But 110 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:45.120 the tighter title is Kaboomer. And where did Kaboomer come from? Well, 111 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.439 it came from a knock knock joke that I came 112 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.279 up with, knock knock, Who's there a baby boomer and 113 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.639 a kaboomer baby in her boomer and a kaboomer who 114 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.040 a baby boomer that takes two pills at a time 115 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.399 and kaboomer that takes two steps at a time. So 116 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.199 in my own journey that I shared from my kind 117 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.759 of ashes of injury and post have and so on, 118 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:18.319 I realized that mobility, attitude and confidence were ways to 119 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.639 get past life's hurdles and maybe make the world a 120 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.519 little bit better placed. My own operating system is one 121 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.759 built on trust. And you mentioned my service background. I 122 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.839 do like to serve others. So I thought that Kaboomer 123 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.959 would inspire people to be skeptical when they go to 124 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:41.639 the doctor and he or she says, take this. And 125 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:48.480 my question is, what happened before modern medicine said take this? Well, 126 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:52.000 we did natural things things. Now I know your background 127 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:56.120 is you found many ways to do things naturally, organically, 128 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:01.879 spiritually to offset the need for polypharmacy. So polypharmacy and 129 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.160 injury were drivers for Kaboomer. And again it's the inspiration 130 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.519 to move and to be positive instead of resorting to 131 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.959 pills and things that don't serve us. Well, so that 132 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:14.879 was the inspiration. 133 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.839 Okay, well, thank you. You know, sometimes we need to 134 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.839 take you know, there is a positive part of an 135 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:25.240 alligathic allopathic medicine. Like I had pneumonia and I took 136 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.639 some pills and I got better in three days, just 137 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:31.240 like my physician told me. And I got operated. 138 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:31.480 On for. 139 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:38.320 Kidney growths and that saved my life. And I had 140 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.440 an emergency appendectomy and I had to take believe it 141 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.440 or not, cipro afterwards. So sometimes you need you know, 142 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.559 there has to be in my opinion and I probably 143 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.600 yours also, there needs to be a balance. We don't 144 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.000 always need to go to the medicine cabinet. First, I 145 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.080 think if we start by taking care of ourselves, we'll 146 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.320 be in a better position to make the right choices 147 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.919 when that happens, because when we go to the doctor, 148 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.919 it's like when you bring your car to the mechanic. 149 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.799 They find stuff and they try to fix it, but 150 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:11.440 they don't really tell you much about maintaining your vehicle. 151 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.519 And in this case, our vehicle is our physical body. 152 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.559 So when it comes to aging, David, what do you 153 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.200 think are the biggest myths that people still believe that 154 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:25.080 aren't necessarily true, including working on yourself and looking for 155 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:26.240 the natural solutions. 156 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.480 First, boy, we have inherited things, haven't we since our parents? 157 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.320 You know, our dad's probably had one job in a 158 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:38.200 gold watch. Now our life has certainly changed, so much 159 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.320 has changed and hopefully for the better. But what is aging? Well, 160 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.440 we're born with a disease called aging, aren't we, and 161 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:50.480 people people dread aging is if it's something that is 162 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:56.720 to be fended off and not proactively addressed, and I 163 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.360 think that is great. Yet now we fine things like 164 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.720 wellness maxing. You hear all these compound words like wellness maxing. 165 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.120 So people are going to do sauna, they're going to 166 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.799 do led, they're going to do this, they're going to 167 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:14.679 do that, and what guess what? They forget the basics. 168 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.720 They forget the simple yet hard things of living well. 169 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.720 And so it's frantic. It's good for Madison Avenue, I 170 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.840 know that was in your background. It's good for marketing. 171 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.720 Yet it's not good for us to be scattered with 172 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:32.200 all these sexy draws to make us better. What we 173 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:36.200 really need is to sweat, to breathe, to eat well, 174 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:41.360 and just be comfortable about moving and moving heavy things. 175 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.919 I actually well, I talked about a word like wellness 176 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:50.879 or max wellness, but I invented a word too, called glothic. 177 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.039 I think you may remember Gilligan's Island, the comedy show 178 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.639 that had to come run on black and white TV. Well, 179 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:02.080 supposedly that was about of an original sins. But the 180 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.639 two original sins that I talk about in both of 181 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.000 my books in a third book coming up are gluttony 182 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.360 and sloth. And I agree, I'm a kindred kaboomer like you. 183 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.399 I say, let's go as far as we can until 184 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:19.559 the crisis happens, until the appendix says, WHOA no moss? 185 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:25.480 Or you know, our system is amazingly, amazingly good. I 186 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.360 call it a sick care system. I apologize to any 187 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.559 medical people in your listeners that I think that's not 188 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.320 just We're very, very good when we have a problem 189 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:42.519 to be dealt with in emergency department or in things 190 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:47.360 that have become you know, cancer for instance. One of 191 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.080 my kryptonizes, if I may do a quick digression, I 192 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:56.440 just had another mose surgery. I am a Northern European background, 193 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:02.799 and I visited dermatologists too much. And yet the dermatologist 194 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.480 is probably keeping me alive because I've had melanoma a 195 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.840 couple times and you've had incidents. So for cases like that, 196 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:14.720 absolutely positively, our system is good at treating things. Yet 197 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.960 why are we dying? Why do American males only live 198 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.799 an average Now this is one hundred and fifty some 199 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:28.919 million American males, But why are we living to seventy seven? Well? 200 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:36.559 Heart disease, suicide, opioids, luckily, opioids, COVID nineteen and suicides 201 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:42.559 are dropping. Cancer the megatrends are cancers he used to 202 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.320 be creating, particularly at younger ages. But what isn't changing 203 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:50.000 heart disease. We're not smoking, we're not eating as much 204 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.679 red meat, and yet we're still dying prematurely from heart disease. 205 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.200 So sorry it take so long to circle back to 206 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:00.360 what do I think about aging? The myth is that 207 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.679 we're in the hands of modern medicine. No, we should 208 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:09.480 be self focused, proactively leaning toward doing things to gain 209 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.200 up to seven to twelve extra vital years in our 210 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:15.240 health span. And I believe doing things that you're doing. 211 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.440 I say, one marathon is wonderful. Everyone should experience forty 212 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:23.399 two kilometers. Everyone should do it once, no matter how 213 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:27.840 fast or how slow. But I wouldn't do it every day. Why. 214 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.519 Inflammation is the number one problem that we have, and 215 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.039 related to that is oxidation. But whether you're talking about diabetes, 216 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.440 heart disease, high blood pressure, and metabolic syndrome, we have 217 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:43.879 a problem that our lifestyles, including our diet, are inflaming us. 218 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.759 And the myth is that medicine is going to take 219 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:50.080 care of something that we should be taking care of. Ourselves. 220 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:53.559 So I think that's myth number one. Myth number two, Well, 221 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.440 it's inevitable that you're going to end up as a 222 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.559 shriveled old man like Artie Johnson on the Old Show laughing. 223 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.360 You know he fell off the bicycle and all that 224 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:06.039 doesn't have to be. We know that our bodies and 225 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:10.799 I call it the said principal, specific adaptations to imposed demands. 226 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.679 So as I said I, and as I know you do, Robert, 227 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:19.320 you imposed general demands not too much, not too little 228 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:24.159 on your body by moving, by breathing, by eating to live. 229 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.639 I'm sorry, Yeah, eating to live, not living to eat 230 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.600 as a glutton. So glothic behavior is sending us to 231 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.639 a grady too early. And the myth is it has 232 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.000 to happen that way. And answer is no, we're smart 233 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:44.080 enough technology, medicine and our newfound knowledge in the human body. 234 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.759 Is that at seventy you're just getting started. Yes, you're 235 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.960 in your third act. I have a four bearer named 236 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:55.759 Ralph Waldo Emerson pretty good order like to row like 237 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.600 I did. A Harvard guy, not a Villanova guy, but 238 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:03.960 a Harvard guy, and he called it the felicities of age. 239 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.600 We're at a stage with the benefit of hindsight and 240 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.639 experience that we can do things smarter. Boy, wouldn't I 241 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.879 like to be a kindergarten kid again with what I 242 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.279 know now? And wouldn't I like to be forty something 243 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.600 in middle age with all the stresses in middle age 244 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.480 with what I know now? So that's like why you 245 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:23.600 share things, and I try to share things. 246 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.000 Okay. My special guest on today's Guys Guys Radio is 247 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:33.120 the amazing writer and fitness coach and certified Master trainer 248 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:39.679 David Emerson Frost. And here's the two books again, Kaboomer 249 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.360 and Strong to say, so, do you have an emphasis 250 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.519 in your work about stamina stamininity? You actually call it 251 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.320 in a health and Healthy agy aging and you also 252 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.440 get into a seven L element action plan, which is 253 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.919 seven s' strength, stamina, stretching, sustenance, sleep, stress. But let 254 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.480 me let's start a little bit with a talk about stamina. 255 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.480 My point where I'm coming from is, David and forgive me, 256 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.120 is that for some of the people, we're a little 257 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.440 bit over seventy and we can still we have the 258 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.399 capacity to still go out there and do a lot 259 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.679 of the things we did before. I don't run marathons anymore. 260 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:18.440 I have a very close friend, he's my age. He 261 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:22.120 still runs marathons. Good for him. I guess what I'm 262 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.799 getting at is, what do you say to people who 263 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.240 know they can't do exactly what you did before, But 264 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:31.840 you do have that physically. You may not be as strong, 265 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:35.000 and you may not have as much stamina, but you 266 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.840 have that kind of ring savvy. You have that experience 267 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.159 that can help you train smarter. Talk to us about 268 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.200 the importance of that. So our listeners out there who 269 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.399 are of the boomer age aren't thinking, well, I'm not 270 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.080 strong like these guys. I can't do that. I had 271 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:51.200 a knee replacement or a hip replacement. 272 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.679 Yeah, we're all damaged goods. And I know you mentioned 273 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.120 the noun tune up earlier, but if we're working on 274 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:00.919 little tune ups all the time, we're in better shape. 275 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.079 If the big tuneup happens from injury or a condition 276 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.000 like cancer. But why did people with strong grips not 277 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:11.480 die from COVID because they had strong grips? Hey, Dave, 278 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.640 what is a strong grip? It means you're working on 279 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:17.599 it to get stronger. So we're talking about progress, not perfection, 280 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.519 but with stamina. So you mentioned the seven sas and 281 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.000 thank you for that. Robert. The foundation of our physical 282 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:29.599 bank is stamina, meaning our cardio, respiratory ar cardiovascular system. 283 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.039 And yes, I cannot run a marathon under three hours 284 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.920 like I used to today, nor do I want to. I've 285 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:41.119 done my marathons. So we adapt our dulce vita. I 286 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.440 call it that, And of course I made up an 287 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:48.680 acronym VITA, which means volume, intensity, tempo, and adaptation. So 288 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.880 we're going to watch our volume because training too hard 289 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.880 for too long is inflammatory. We're going to watch our 290 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.920 intensity because our joints and our muscles may be more 291 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:01.160 prone to injury. How many pickable player friends of yours 292 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.599 are injured? How many golfers are injured? Right? They go 293 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.160 out as weekend warriors because, as you shared, they're not 294 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.000 what they used to be. God blessed Toby Keith. I 295 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.160 miss them because it's great song. I'm not as good 296 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.279 as I once was, but I'm as good once as 297 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.640 I ever was. As we adapt, we can do impressive things. 298 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.480 I with some of my crazy buddies are going to set, 299 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.160 hopefully set a world record for a continuous twenty four 300 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:28.880 hour row this weekend. 301 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:29.599 Amazing. 302 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.039 Well, we'll find out. But the answer is it's doable. 303 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.240 But we're not doing it to the point a red 304 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:41.039 zone of killing ourselves. We're doing to get to have fun, 305 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.359 to be social, to do something together. Now, in this case, 306 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.359 it could have been mixed, and if we did, we 307 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.680 opened it to women as well as guys. But the 308 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.279 guys with the crazy ones, the guys, guys that are 309 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.960 going to do something epic. And I know this is PG, 310 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.559 but this is the bottle that we're going to open up. 311 00:18:58.839 --> 00:18:59.240 I love it. 312 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:00.240 I love it it. 313 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.880 So not that we should talk about drinking or whatever. 314 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.440 We're going to open the bottle to celebrate epic stuff. 315 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.960 So the fact is stamming up, so we're going to 316 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:13.359 go slower. In fact, we shouldn't do much more than 317 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.680 conversational what we call zone two. This is if you 318 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:22.119 can maintain an effort like a hawk, a walk, i'm sorry, walk, rocking, 319 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.480 bicycling or those types of things, and you maintain it 320 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.000 for a long period of time, that's in our DNA. 321 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.759 That's how we hunted down the gazelle. The gazelle on 322 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:35.839 the pompous was faster than us. We just outlasted them. 323 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.559 So here we are at the age of seventy. You 324 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.240 know the Social Security Administration, Robert says, we're going to 325 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.559 be dead in ten years. Well, I beg to differ 326 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:46.759 because we're going to outlast them, right, We're going to 327 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.440 out think them, out last and outplay them. But stamina 328 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:54.039 is the foundation, and how do you do it. There's 329 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.960 a fancy term called metabolic hours that you should do 330 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:00.640 each week. Not too much, not too high in in tensity. 331 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:03.640 That's bad for you, it's inflammatory, and yet you do 332 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.319 want to go to sweat. The important thing about stamina. 333 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.960 The magic number right now is forty five minutes of 334 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:13.880 general activity to generate glistening for the ladies or sweat 335 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:17.240 for the guys. With that, some amazing things happen to 336 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:24.079 our hormonal systems. The rebuild, repair, restore the parasympathetic nerves 337 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:28.640 that get you excited about feed and restore instead of 338 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.559 fight or flight. Not a problem with American life is 339 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:34.160 we're frenetic and it's fight or flight all the time. Right, 340 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:36.599 you got a deadline, there's a war going on, la 341 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:39.759 la la. But if we breathe, if we focus on 342 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.480 the types of things that you're doing so very well. 343 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.799 Hopefully we can realize that the song's going to come 344 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:47.799 up tomorrow, and tomorrow is going to be a good day, 345 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.519 and I'm going to sweat gently for at least forty 346 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:52.880 five minutes six days a week. All right. 347 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:56.279 You know you do rowing, and I think that's like 348 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:59.480 one of the most perfect sports and activities because you're 349 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:04.240 just using muscle, you're breathing, it's great for stamina, it's 350 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:08.759 just overall, it's just a wonderful activity. My question is, David, 351 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:13.000 what's your position on like free weights. I used to 352 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:15.680 lift weights all the time and I loved it, and 353 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.079 now I don't really want to go push iron. I 354 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:23.680 do the Dan Millman Peaceful Warrior workout every day. I 355 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:27.400 play pickleball, I swim. I'm in a senior softball league, 356 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.279 which is a lot tougher than you might think it is. 357 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.960 These guys are hardcore and I do a lot of pushups, 358 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.079 I have been doing them since I'm twelve years old, 359 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:39.599 and a lot of stretching and that seems to feel. 360 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.079 I use my body weight, but I'm not going to 361 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.519 free weights. What's your And that's just me. There's a 362 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.799 lot of guys my rage, who are out there pumping 363 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.759 iron and they look great? And what's your position on 364 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:50.599 free weights? 365 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:54.400 Yeah, so you brought up a good point. The goat 366 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:57.039 right Tom Brady, who is not our agent. Yeah, he's 367 00:21:57.079 --> 00:21:59.440 known as the greatest of all time as a quarterback 368 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.480 in mark he sport of football. He did not use 369 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.519 either closed or open circuit weights. He used resistance bands 370 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.200 for what he did for his particular quickness and his 371 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.319 and of course the muscle between his ears is really important, 372 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.119 like it is for you and me and all our 373 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:20.599 boomer and kaboomer friends. But my feeling is to back 374 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:24.079 up a little. Moving heavy stuff is good medicine. Now, 375 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.000 you're a pretty big guy. You're not a you know, 376 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:28.799 you're not a spring chicken, but you're a fitt spring chicken. 377 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.039 If you do a pull up, that's resistant effort. That's 378 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.839 moving your joints, although you could also get benefit from 379 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.960 not moving an isometric exercise. But body weight, it's always 380 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.519 with us, right, So prisoners can get pretty buff and 381 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:46.960 pretty fit body weight. So I say heavy stuff in 382 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.880 your activities of daily life. And yet if it's working 383 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:55.359 for you to do bands and to do sports and things, 384 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.720 we want to avoid a dreaded term called sarcopenia. That's 385 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.480 the loss of flesh, which can be as much as 386 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.119 one percent per year after the age of thirty. How 387 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.599 do we avoid that. We don't avoid it, but we 388 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.960 can change the trajectory. The myth is that you're going 389 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.839 to be old and shriveled by age seventy, and that 390 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:20.319 is false because we respond to appropriate, imposed demands that 391 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:24.839 such as you do. Some people do close circuit, you know. 392 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.400 I always say that if you want to, you know, 393 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.880 with the sun coming out in San Diego, suns out, 394 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.400 guns out. Yeah, you can make your delts and your 395 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.759 biceps look really good by doing machines at the big 396 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.400 box gym or at home. But I say with freeways 397 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.759 you tend to move more joints, and that really is 398 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.559 activities of daily life. So like you move many joints 399 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.240 in pick up ball, you're moving in all three body planes. 400 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:54.799 That's exciting, it's social and it's not it's not fixed 401 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.519