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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. We've been entertaining some interesting messages.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is in here today for Shannon, so we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to change the name of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Gary and Shannon, great last minute Christmas idea. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it sounds dumb. I used to be a non believer,

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<v Speaker 2>but Snuggies wearable blankets fantastic. I use mine every weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the name of a diaper, Huggies, Huggies, Huggies,

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<v Speaker 1>you could put the huggy in the snuggie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, Shannon number two the summer're having a show

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<v Speaker 3>in Ay and enjoying this show already. Here's a sports

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<v Speaker 3>ane abge for you, Shannon number one. Now that you're

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<v Speaker 3>warming up, I'll bring you in as a backup anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Great radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Great show. You guys, have a good day.

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<v Speaker 3>Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have to join the union. Hey, Gary and

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon in number one. H David here.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>teamster for thirty six years retired and solidarity for the teamsters.

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<v Speaker 1>If they need help picketing.

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<v Speaker 2>We tend to go and it may not represent everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's.

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<v Speaker 1>How we work it. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the show, love it. Thank you appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that clarification.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Gary and Shannon Uno Shannon, I was just wondering,

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<v Speaker 3>do you ever do things to purposely get Gary upset?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he is so much more fun when he's angry.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys have a good Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>He is difficult to rile up. Its maddening. I'll often

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<v Speaker 5>try and pick fights just to just to see if

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<v Speaker 5>I can raise the temperature a little bit in him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Exercise and futility. It's hard. It's hard to make you angry.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I laugh when I hear you on the

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<v Speaker 5>radio getting angry bent over something like the housing authority.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, that's what gets you.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Gary, I have a question for you with your

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<v Speaker 6>work wife Shannon, your real life Shannon, when they get together,

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<v Speaker 6>do they really gang up on you big time? Because

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<v Speaker 6>I can hear it just as sure as I'm sitting here.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be hilarious. You wouldn't have a fighting chance,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think, would you.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to keep matter and anti matter apart, because.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the we had a really good time together.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the potential of the universe folding in on itself.

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<v Speaker 5>If you only knew the texting side conversations that she

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<v Speaker 5>and I had during your show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she'll I don't know if you hear it. When

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<v Speaker 1>you text her, She'll pick up the phone and she'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and she'll go, your wife just texting me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, what did she say?

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't tell you, does she no?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my point is she'd say it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I say, well, what did she say? And she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't text you, she texted me. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Swamp is horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>The government doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Man gonna make it like a reality TV shoot A

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<v Speaker 1>bad boo. Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Joe, A town hall too clearly built on a

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<v Speaker 5>swamp and in so many ways still a swamp.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to watch a work boy said, dreamed the swamp.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, that's so hell. You know the thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we are watching, of course, what's going on in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. We are less than ten hours away from

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<v Speaker 1>a potential government shutdown, among other things. We've seen President

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<v Speaker 1>Biden criticized for having zero impact on this government shutdown talk,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>What are you expecting from him at this time?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Not only is he lame duck, he's a he's got

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<v Speaker 5>about a half an hour of good time.

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<v Speaker 1>He he is not. Delaware's back in DC was planned

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<v Speaker 1>part of the trip. He is planning, I think, to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Italy or something. But the Vice President is

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<v Speaker 1>also back in DC. She was there maybe because if

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<v Speaker 1>this thing goes to the Senate and is close, then

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<v Speaker 1>she would cast a tie breaking vote. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a three pronged approach to fixing this Plan

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<v Speaker 1>C is three different bills that would go through get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the suspension of the debt ceiling. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all of that coming up in the next segment.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, just to give you an idea, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that the government shutdown is looming. Zack Stanton put together

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<v Speaker 1>a piece in Politico that was pretty amazing to go

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<v Speaker 1>back through and look at. It's the outright worst political

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<v Speaker 1>predictions of twenty twenty four. Some of them again, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are credited too. I mean, he talks about who

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<v Speaker 1>made these predictions. John Harwood said that Joe Biden wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>pardon Hunter. We all be part of the reason, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that is because Joe Biden himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, is that a prediction? When Biden himself is saying

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<v Speaker 5>I will not do this, right, that's not a prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris would win the presidential election. They specifically credit

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Reiner with that one, but I mean a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people also did that the time. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why he gets the credit for it. There are

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<v Speaker 1>millions of people who thought that that Elon Musk would

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<v Speaker 1>either lose control of Twitter or sell it. That's author

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Galloway. He said that this that Twitter or Musk

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<v Speaker 1>would dispense with the social media platform for financial reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It has become a massive player in politics in these

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<v Speaker 1>last two months.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think that's what squelched the bill right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, absolutely, but also think about the impact that it

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<v Speaker 1>had on going into November fifth, the impact that each

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<v Speaker 1>one of his messages made. Scott Adams, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dilbert creator, has come out as would you say a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative commentator. I don't know if I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it, so but I mean a lot of his comments,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean on Twitter, he's that kind of a follow.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that the twenty twenty four election would see

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<v Speaker 1>a landslide of election election rigging claims and that the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court would have to hash things out to make

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<v Speaker 1>a way for a Trump presidency. It was really quiet, Yes, yeah, shocking,

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<v Speaker 1>shock and refreshing, delightful. Michael McKenna said that if Trump wins,

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<v Speaker 1>there would be riots in Washington and New York. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought there or would be too. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought that this if he was as evil as

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<v Speaker 1>everybody says he is, well he's a Hitler at least

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<v Speaker 1>he's Hitler squared or whatever. They said that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be people who Now that's not to say that the

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<v Speaker 1>inauguration is not going to see some some hygiens and

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, the day of certification.

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<v Speaker 5>But aren't we tired?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. I think people just got worn out politically.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody got so tired of it. George Conway, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the husband at one time of Kelly Yan Conway, said

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump was going to lose the immunity case at

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court, that he was going to go on

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<v Speaker 1>trial in March and that he was going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life in prison. Well, now it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like there won't be any criminal case against Trump

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Biden is. This was the one that I

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<v Speaker 1>think just killed me, that Joe Biden's advisors told him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can only stand to benefit from an early debate. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the debates usually don't take place until August or September

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes into October for presidential candidates. But they agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to that June or the late June debate. On May fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden campaign said that it was publicly offering to bring

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<v Speaker 1>forward the first presidential debate by three months meant to

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<v Speaker 1>jolt American's attention sooner than later about their consequential choice

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. Well, that true, well, and that

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<v Speaker 1>could have been written by either side, but that was Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's advisors have long believe that the dawning realization of

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump Biden rematch will be a bomb for the

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<v Speaker 1>president dreopy approval rank. That sounds like mois bomb and droopy.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody knows that June twenty seventh debate was the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the end of his candidacy, and everybody realized.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats realized that they did not have a strong enough candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump will know show the debate with Biden. James Carville

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<v Speaker 1>had suggested that that the markets would crash if Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is convicted in New York, that Matt Gates would be

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<v Speaker 1>the next Attorney general. All of these things came listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Gates was a bad choice to begin with, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that people as many people supported him as

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<v Speaker 1>did as they did when his name was announced. A

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<v Speaker 1>prediction from Howard Lutnick that RFK Junior wouldn't be picked

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<v Speaker 1>to lead the HHS.

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<v Speaker 5>What does Howard Lutnick know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, nothing in this case, No, they said it. Could

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<v Speaker 1>it have been a bad prediction from Howard Lutnick? Could

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<v Speaker 1>it have been an outr lie or an instance of

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<v Speaker 1>hubrist from someone who was not quite as read into

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's thinking as he presented himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Or the appetite for change? Well, and even he misread

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<v Speaker 5>the appetite for change. People want RFK in there?

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<v Speaker 1>The people do, yes. I wonder how much of the

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing to say that that that exists from

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<v Speaker 1>the people, But what did was Trump listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>people when he promised RFK to nominate him to HHS.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thin at the base, like the groundswell of support that

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<v Speaker 5>RFK had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but that's different than saying that he was hearing

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<v Speaker 1>the people. I hear the people sing I can lay

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<v Speaker 1>miss are.

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<v Speaker 5>The people now?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so anyway, there's it's just a great article. They

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<v Speaker 1>said that the history was going to repeat itself with

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<v Speaker 1>a chaotic Democratic convention in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>Those were that you were packing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were with some of the most mild I mean

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the two conventions that we went to eight

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Those were completely mild.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you were expecting the worst. You had your Camo

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<v Speaker 5>backpack packed, you had your special underpants, you were ready,

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<v Speaker 5>which which which supportive ones with the dance belt.

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<v Speaker 1>With the dance belt built in. Now you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get me in trouble. Series of atmospheric rivers are expected

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<v Speaker 1>to impact northern California over the weekends. We might see

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<v Speaker 1>some holiday travel complications if you're headed up there. The

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<v Speaker 1>first of those storms expected to move into the Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Area tomorrow morning, with about a half inch to three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of an inch of rain and an event that

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated the top restaurants in LA sickened at least eighty

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<v Speaker 1>people neurovirus outbreak linked to raw oysters. LA County's Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Public Health confirmed to ABC the outbreak stemmed from

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<v Speaker 1>an event at the Hollywood Palladium celebrating the LA Times

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<v Speaker 1>list of the one hundred and one best restaurants.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you get freight and it's not rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't say which this restaurant brought the raw oysters, though,

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<v Speaker 1>did they? That's kind of fun. We are in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of swamp watch and talking about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. We were talking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>earlier about this article that came out from Politico, a

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<v Speaker 1>Who was Cleopatra?

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<v Speaker 5>Who was feeding you these answers?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Keana?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I get it right?

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<v Speaker 5>You flip through these things when she's not looking, don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your theory?

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<v Speaker 5>He's a cheating cheaterson, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>It was either Cleopatra or never TD.

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<v Speaker 5>You just like saying TD, Well, who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The House Republicans still trying to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>would explain why Kamala Harris was back in DC. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense either. But we've, unfortunately you and I

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about what to do in the end of life,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm conflicted on this. I understand alleviating pain making

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're muddled already.

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<v Speaker 5>Your mom thought she saw her brother and was saying things.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you use these psychedelics, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, your hands turned into spiders.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary and Shannon kf I am six forty Live Everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try that again. Go ahead and take two.

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<v Speaker 5>Go Gary and Shannon I am six forty Live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>Better, let's try a third time, though, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>Harris have when it comes to, you know, being at

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<v Speaker 5>And there's talk of her becoming California.

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<v Speaker 7>November fifth was a decisive defeat for the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 7>She lost every single swing state. Kamala Harris's indulging in

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<v Speaker 7>To be coconut pilled. We do not want Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard of she did. She says she has been ostracized

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<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't running for governor be a demotion for her?

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<v Speaker 1>but then you're still the head of the fifth largest

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<v Speaker 5>No, but she would easily win here, at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least for name recognition. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this. You and I have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>but we My father passed away last year right about

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Mom passed away the year before that. Mixed

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<v Speaker 1>that has come up. And this I thought was an

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<v Speaker 1>just something like something something to maybe stimulate your appetite,

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<v Speaker 1>just take away some of the uncomfortability. There's concern, there's worry,

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<v Speaker 1>there's paranoia, all of that stuff. Just something that just relax.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be pot, but just something to relax.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an article in the New York Times regarding

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<v Speaker 1>psychedelics and specifically psilocybin clinics. In Oregon can operate a

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't think that psychedelics are used to get high,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Michael Fratkin is a palliad of care specialists here

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and that like with your father, he was so

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<v Speaker 5>I think you have to be really careful. Though. Part

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<v Speaker 1>And that may have been the reality for them to

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I heard, but you're bad.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people on hospice are are they're not

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<v Speaker 1>You want Aaron Rodgers to come in and hold your hands.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it would not. He's an he would hate him.

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<v Speaker 1>Most studies on psychedelics in palliative care are pretty small.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a study last year in the journal Cancer

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<v Speaker 1>that said that eighty percent of patients who took a

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<v Speaker 1>single dose of psilocybin a single dose had a sustained

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<v Speaker 1>positive response, and that fifty percent reported full remission, not

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<v Speaker 1>not in cancer, but full remission in the symptoms, the

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<v Speaker 1>depression symptoms, even two months after the single dose of psilocybin.

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<v Speaker 1>A study from a few years ago in Psychopharmacology found

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<v Speaker 1>similar results for patients more than four years after their

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<v Speaker 1>initial treatment, Which seems like, if you're four years into

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<v Speaker 1>your palliative care, well.

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<v Speaker 5>Positive care, you can be on for a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hospice that has kind of a time limited faction

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<v Speaker 5>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's the difference. What would the palliative care paliative care.

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<v Speaker 5>They can manage your care, manage your pain, and you

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<v Speaker 5>can graduate out of it. It's people are confused. They

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<v Speaker 5>think palliative is hospice care. Paliative care really pulls together

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<v Speaker 5>different specialties to integrate all of the diagnoses and treatments

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<v Speaker 5>and make sure everything's working well for a person.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the downside? I mean, if you're talking about people

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the their polliative care, death for psychedelics,

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<v Speaker 1>the precipice of death, and like the people we've known,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fearful of it or or they're sad about about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that those are not important emotions to feel at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, but what would be the downside of relieving

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<v Speaker 1>that from them?

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<v Speaker 5>For them, is it a guarantee that those things will

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<v Speaker 5>be revealed? I'd be interested in those studies, like who

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<v Speaker 5>didn't it work for right? They're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 5>how't What was their experience? Was it really negative? Was

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<v Speaker 5>it terrifying?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's farrassing. At the top of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting get into our trending stories. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do gas Fantasy for play because my wife loves talking

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<v Speaker 1>about football. That's going to be fun.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what you learned this week on the Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon Show and the nine news nuggets you need

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<v Speaker 1>to know to kind of round it all out. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bunch of these messages. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>get through why.

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<v Speaker 8>You're husband's so hot?

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<v Speaker 5>So really he is hot.

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<v Speaker 1>You're lucky, Yeah, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 5>Get on that Instagram check out this eye candy?

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<v Speaker 1>What this eye candy?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>Gary, I'm also married to a Shannon enough, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't work with the Shannon.

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<v Speaker 8>Not all heroes were a caped Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Holidays, Gary and missus Shannon number one. I have

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<v Speaker 1>an idea, Gary that never.

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<v Speaker 8>Likes my ideas, but I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 4>My idea is.

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<v Speaker 6>Once or twice a month, we should have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon only show.

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<v Speaker 5>What an idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Two beautiful, smart women, but not a great show. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it all right, keep it in your pants? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Gary and Shannon Shannon one.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of funny the dynamics have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary's usually got to be right. Not today. He just

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<v Speaker 1>gives up good. So you know, not that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day, but you know, pick your battles right, and

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>You actually go home with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually have to. There's two car rides we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing today.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a big fan when somebody takes Shannon's place,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I tend to not even want to listen

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<v Speaker 6>to the radio.

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<v Speaker 5>Game's not there.

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<v Speaker 6>But I have to say, Shannon the Wife, you're doing

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<v Speaker 6>an awesome job.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, you don't need affirmation from me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get it from other people.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon Show with Gary's Wife was the dumbest

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<v Speaker 4>show ever. What and who gives a crap? About Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>and Republicans? Wait, normally you guys don't promote the crap,

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<v Speaker 4>but this time they promoted, Oh, we're Democrats only who

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<v Speaker 4>give the crap? You get a bunch of dodos man Dodo.

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<v Speaker 1>This show sucked. Yeah, this show sucks. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't say that we're Democrats. What we said was

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<v Speaker 1>in California, we vote for Democrats. That's what's people grew

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<v Speaker 1>as a people group. But don't worry that guy. That

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<v Speaker 1>guy only called once.

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<v Speaker 4>But Gary and his Wife show sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, that must have been the same guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Friday, December twentieth episode with Gary and Shannon's Show. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and his Wife, the wife is not a DJ

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<v Speaker 4>and the show is absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, gosh, three times, I'm not a DJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Gary and Gary chant his Wife the show is

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what about Gary and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary's wife episode was absolutely horrible and we'll never listen

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<v Speaker 4>to it again.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, listen, I'm with him.

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<v Speaker 4>With Gary show with Gary his wife in it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary's wife wears the pants in the family, and it

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<v Speaker 4>is obvious the show was absolutely horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this guy have something to do? There's nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He called seven times to tell us how much the

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<v Speaker 1>show sucked today. Well it is sorry, trust me, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not on his lunch break. This is a Friday, which

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<v Speaker 1>means we're gonna do what you learned this week on

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<v Speaker 1>The Gary and Channon Show. We'd love to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you think you learned from listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It doesn't have to be today, but just

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<v Speaker 1>different things that we've talked about over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Hoffman's this is Mike and alonga. Hey Mike, I

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<v Speaker 8>just want to let missus Hoffman know that you're doing

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<v Speaker 8>a bang up job. Sounds like you've been in broadcasting

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<v Speaker 8>your whole life, and I'm really enjoying the show today.

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<v Speaker 8>God bless you both good people, and have a happy,

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<v Speaker 8>prosperous and fruitful new year. And anybody who says that

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<v Speaker 8>you talked too much about Christianity like the guy last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind, did you hear that at all? There was

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<v Speaker 1>a comment who said something, Oh, I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to KFI and I'm listening to k G O

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<v Speaker 1>D listen to all God talk. I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure any of that out. Uh okay, here's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>This comment sorry is for you. It's a question about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas, Gary and Shannon number one, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering what Shannon's thoughts were on Gary's adult

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<v Speaker 2>theater performances over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, and take care.

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<v Speaker 5>Does you want to you or the actual idea that

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<v Speaker 5>you go to play rehearsal or play practice as I

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<v Speaker 5>like to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's always right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know it's healthy for couples to have different interests.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying you're not interested in that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's you could not pay me enough to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't imagine getting on stage like this is hard

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<v Speaker 5>enough and it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Me.

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<v Speaker 5>But you put yourself on stage, yeah, and say things

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<v Speaker 5>out loud and people are looking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your daughter does that.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are freaks. But I'm I love that you

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<v Speaker 5>love it. It's healthy to have outside of the marriage

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<v Speaker 5>activity that sounds bad. That sounds bad, an adult theater

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<v Speaker 5>that's really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>What you learned this week on The Gary and Shannon Show,

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<v Speaker 1>leave us a message on the talkback feature on the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart app as a quick note. By the way, next

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<v Speaker 1>week we're off, but we will be doing some best

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<v Speaker 1>ofs that we have put together over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. As a matter of fact, that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>the entire year, went through and raked together some scraps,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not best of more like pretty good, Okay, they're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>evergreen things that we could put in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't mean the guy that love some messages is

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<v Speaker 5>going to want this show on your best of next week. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this will not be making the cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just send them an email. I'll say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your comments. Every comment is listened to and ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do our trending stories and we come back

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<v Speaker 1>to Gary and Shannon. You've been listening to The Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty nine am to one pm every

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,
