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here with us today. Things are starting to come into
shape in the SEC or are they Greg, is it
being clearer or is it getting mondier?
Speaker 2: What's happening? How are you well?
Speaker 3: I'm good, happy Sunday today, my friend. I've needed a
couple extra couples of cups of coffee this morning. Did
not the game to not get over till a quarter
to twelve last night here on the East Coast. I
was up writing till twelve thirty, but made the deadline,
so that was good. You know, if things are clear,
one thing's for certain. Georgia lit up Tennessee last night.
You know, we started out a little bit slow, but
my goodness, that looked like the vintage dogs, and uh,
it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was exciting to watch. Uh it was familiar, I
think for Georgia fans to kind of look and see like, oh,
this is who Georgia is, and this is who Georgia
ken be. And let's be honest, my friend, Tennessee is
who we thought they were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I think that they are. And we we
called it, let's just can we just can we just
bask in the light of our correct predictions for just
a moment. We even said, what's going on with this line?
And this was an opportunity for Dylan Sampson, This was
an opportunity for UH a highly heralded Tennessee defensive front
after what we have seen out of Georgia in weeks
past Ole miss was able to get through the offensive
line of Georgia and get after Carston back and they were
able to I mean the running game coming from the Dogs.
So it seemed like Tennessee had some openings. But but
just had a weird feeling about this matchup that the
line is gonna be right, even though there were so
many questions about it, and we kind of stood on
the fact that Tenant that Georgia would cover, and that
is my take from the game boys.
Speaker 2: Georgia covered. That was it.
Speaker 1: Carson Beck looks more true to form and it didn't
seem to matter that, you know, he doesn't have the
elite weapon out there. You're down several running backs. There
are injuries. Galore Kirby mentioned if he mentioned it once,
he mentioned it three or four times in his postgame
presser that injuries are problem, that the schedule is a gaultlet,
that people don't understand the rigor of the SEC schedule,
and that they're lose players. And we'll go back and
reference to transfer portal here and say that because of
lack of depth on all rosters, including the quote unquote
elite teams, there is a problem when you experience multiple injuries,
especially at one position, because now you've gotten to not
your third string four star freshmen that maybe is going
in a little too early but still has the talent.
But you may be looking at some guys that were
destined for Scout team for their entire career now making
appearances in key moments in SEC matchups, swarts the end
of the year. That's the reality of college football with
the transfer portal, and Kirby also mentioned that roster sizes
are shrinking soon and so that'll be something to watch
as well to see how teams are able to hold
up throughout the duration of a season like this. Nonetheless,
the Dogs stay alive and they make Tennessee yet another
two loss SEC team added to the discussion of who
is in the allge Football playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if you look at that game,
you know, you talk about resiliency, talk about injuries. You know,
Carson Beck, you know, we had some joke. We had
some fun last week with MBG. We were talking about
the Cavendar twins and maybe on Carson's vind more than
what the playbook was. But you know, Carson showed up.
You know, he once again, I love Bobo taking that
deep shot that first played the game to Arion Smith
and you know, Smith, God love him. But I don't know.
I think he had three or four droughts last night.
But again, it's those opportunities to really kind of take
the top off. Early Smith drops it. You know, Georgia
goes down early ten to nothing, and you know, the
first three possessions they're punting, but then all of a sudden,
Back starts to cook. You know, he hits, he gets
that big pass early on or you know late late
late in the first quarter, and you know George is
kind of off and running. And what I saw from
Carson last night more importantly, you know, first and foremost,
he had big plays. He had seven throws of over
twenty yards to six different receivers. His top threat, the
one that was supposed to be the X factor against Tennessee,
Dylan Bell goes out with with with a likely high
ankle spring. So you know, we're starting to see guys
like like Nitel Tuggle starting starting to come in. But
what Beck did is he kept throwing and he kept going.
You know Fraser, Fraser was hurt at running back. So
what does Beck do. He starts moving, moving, moving the
pocket with his feet, He starts making big runs. He
threw a big shoulder I think early early in that
first half, you know, put his shoulder in for a
first down, and you know it was real excited. And
what you saw from Carson Beck last night, and what
you saw from Georgia as a whole, is they fed
off of Sanfords Stadium. And if this is, you know what,
not more of a reason for why we need to
get rid of these neutral site games. Sanford Stadium was electric.
I know Colombia was rocking last night for your game, Cocks,
but stop playing in these boring ass NFL stadiums. Come
to the college, these college campuses and you have these
heavyweight fights. They all black in the crowd, the student
section getting there an hour and a half before the game,
you know, really starting to rock. Georgia just comes in
and takes care of business. You know, they come up
fourteen to ten tennessee fights right back. They go in
a nice swell play drive, go fencing. You know, they
get the ball of two minutes left, the meticulated all
the way down the hi at seventeen Tennessee gets the
ball back, they force a punt. Georgia responds by scoring
another touchdown to go up and continue. So what you
see is resilience. What you see is a chip on
their shoulder. Georgia likes to be counted out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You almost think it's like Herbie liked losing that game
last week to Lane because you know, and he liked
being that first team out of the College Football Playoff.
He had no love for College Football Committee, saying, you know,
I don't know what they're looking at. He talks about
the grind of SEC But at the end of the day,
Georgia just was was tougher. You know, that game came
down and tought us. Herbie talked about it, and in
the fourth quarter we had an opportunity and this was
the mistake for Josh Hipel. Dylan Samson had a hell
of a game. He you know, made a number of
big plays. He only had one hundred and one yards,
but I think it was the toughest hundred and one
yards I have seen from him all season. Seemed like
always getting that extra extra, extra first down extending drives.
You know, in Tennessee has a fifteen yard fifteen play drive,
you know, from the third into the fourth quarter, third
and medium, I think it was a third and eight.
Hypel throws the ball, hits off the Tennessee receivers hands.
Hypel now has to punt a fifteen fifteen play drive
comes up nothing. Georgia responds with a with a thirteen
play drive goes nine three yards and puts the exclamation
point on the game. For icing this game away. To me,
this was vintage Georgia. This is what we can see,
and here's the deal. I have been super critical of
Georgia this year because this is not the team that
we've seen. We have not seen the chip, we have
not seen the edge. If Georgia plays like this going out,
they have six games, I believe, and they'll be hoisting
the national championship. But if they play with their food
against Georgia Tech in two weeks, they're on the outside
looking in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it really does come down to consistency.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Mike Bobo, and I've always liked Mike Bobo,
and I think he's a great offensive coordinator. He gets
a lot of heat in Athens, and he's just been
a punching bag over multiple tenures there for the Dogs.
But he and Carson Beck both showed up last night,
and even though the deep shot didn't connect in the
beginning of the game, it communicates to Tennessee, we're coming
for you.
Speaker 2: Yep, We're coming for And I do think that the
environment matters. You know.
Speaker 1: I wrote down a quote from Kirby where he says,
when I talk to people who actually know football, they
know how hard it is to play in that type
of environment.
Speaker 3: And so however, we he talking about rop doesn't know football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a shot at the at.
Speaker 2: The naysayers that environment doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe that Georgia's environment isn't all that either.
But let's slip it over to Tennessee because I think
coming into this game, the expectation was Tennessee's offense has
some trouble getting it going. You need to lean on
Dylan Sampson. If Nico can be accurate with the football,
then their offense can hume.
Speaker 2: But we just haven't seen that unless they're playing a cupcake.
But on the other side of the football.
Speaker 1: Their defense has been fairly dominant over the course of
the year, had not given up more than twenty points
all year that were really hanging their hat on that statistic, yep,
And you kind of see that go out the window
there in the third quarter. So what was it if
you if you flip your perspective and we're looking at
the vaults, yep, what what is the one key factor
that calls their defense to have problems? If I'm looking
at it, it's it's, honestly, as Carson Back's legs. I
don't think that they were ready for him to improvise
them that way. And quarterbacks that can move tend to
give a lot of problems, especially if it's not a
situation that you really prepared for. I understand that these
are high level college football teams, and so you're going
to prepare for Carson Back to be at his best,
even if the tape tape is showing you.
Speaker 2: That he has not played his best recently.
Speaker 1: But one factor that perhaps could slip by you because
he doesn't use it as often as maybe I think
he should, is the ability to get out of the
pocket and take off. And if Carson Beck is able
to do that a little more, it alleviates a lot
of the pressure that's coming after him that's pushed him
into some of the mistakes he's made in weeks past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think you know Tennessee, they're looking
at the receivers they put. They basically put Georgia receivers
out on an island. You know, they were they were
in man covers for the most part, and they challenged
Beck and they also challenged the tight ends to show
up and beat them. And that's exactly why Georgia was
effective against Tennessee's front. They did not look great on
the ground. You know, Nate Frazier had nineteen carries with
only sixty eight yards not not not great, but but
but the truly, truly the difference was Carson Beck had
three big runs for thirty two yards. But it comes
down to Oscar Delp, ben Urasek and Loss and Lucky
just making just enough place and making making those key
receptions to differentiate to extend drives to be able to
be able to go through. But if I'm going to
be if I'm gonna be critical of Tennessee, it's going
to be on Nico. You know, we've talked a lot
about we love his deep ball. You know, he throws
a pretty deep ball, but everything was kind of contained.
You know, he has twenty throws.
Speaker 1: He overthrows his leat ball a lot too, and we
saw that a couple of times last night where maybe
he had a shot.
Speaker 2: And we saw this against Bamba.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had multiple opportunities and they should have
really beaten Bama way worse than they did, and we
called that out right and six or seven missed opportunities.
He finally hits one and it breaks the game open,
but just kind of sitting and looking at it last night,
you could see him wind up to throw it. Hypel
was to take that shot. The offense is living off
of those types of explosive plays, and the ball is
just not even not even catchable, not even a chance
for a pass interference call. It's just five yards beyond
the receiver and he can't catch it.
Speaker 3: Yep. No, No. You compare the two quarterbacks that lines,
and there's your difference in the ballgame. You know, Carson
went for three point fifty a, two touchdowns and interceptions
on twenty five completions. Nico looks good at first twenty
of thirty three. But the thing that stands out to
you is only one hundred and sixty seven yards receiving
everything was relatively in the game, Yeah, average five yards.
So so to me that that's where I'm going to
you know, get after it. And you know, Kirby did
a good job. Kirby and Schumann were living, you know,
basically basically paid their rent living in Tennessee's backfield and
really did a good job of pressuring Nico. But again,
where were the shot plays? You know, the Baylor offense
whatever we're calling it now, we're still going to call
it the Baylor offense for which Tennessee runs, we should
have those shots available. And with Samson and Lewis doing
such a good job inside, Georgia had to respect that,
you know, where were those deep shots? And to me, like, again,
that's that's where, that's where, that's where I'm putting fault
on more than even you know, Tennessee's defense. Tennessee defense
played well. But to me that this is a game
that should have been last possession. I texted you that
sometime late in the first half last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that that Nico. The question
all week was is health as health as health? Right
out that he's healthy. Yep, you could see it.
Speaker 2: He was fine.
Speaker 1: He looked great from just just an ability and into
the game standpoint.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal.
Speaker 1: He's healthy, but he's still average, and there's still a
lot of there's still a lot of freshmen stuff happening.
Uh So, let me use that as a transition point,
just as a moment to jump over to Columbia and
reference the the other ranked matches that you had at
the SEC. You have a couple of red shirt freshmen here,
starting one for Tennessee at NKA Yamaliava, and then you
have Lenora Sellers for the game Cocks. The development of
Lenora Sellers has exceeded that of Nico in the red
shirt freshman seasons because not only is Sellers able to
capitalize on the ground, but he is keeping his eyes
down field and being productive through the air, five passing
touchdowns to five different receivers for yesterday in Colombia. And
I know that Missouri has been called fraudulent all throughout
the season, and I would still say that's the case.
Speaker 2: I would say that they were not a two.
Speaker 1: Lost team in terms of the eye test, and they
stole one against Oklahoma last week. But for whatever reason,
drink gives the game Cocks fits and Brady Cook coming
back was a bit of a shocker. I don't know
how widely that was known or expected in the coaching circles,
but for us, it.
Speaker 2: Was he's out, he's out, he's out, he's out, he's out, and.
Speaker 1: Then he was questionable, and then there he is warming,
and then it was a game time decision, and there
he was playing, and he looked very much ready to go.
So I do think that that gave Missouri a little
bit of a boost. Credit to them getting up off
the mat, going down twenty one to six in the
first half, everything going right for the game Cocks, and
just field goals for the Missouri Tigers. As you know,
they were kind of able to run the ball and Noel.
Noel is back and healthy and was able to get
over one fifty, which has just been an unprecedented act
against his game called defense this year, and to hear
them react to it in their postgame press conference, they
were a little shocked to see those numbers on the
page and upset at the fact that they had allowed
that to happen. But Missouri comes storming back, takes a lead,
and this was an instant classic in Columbia with Luther
Burdening his doing his thing and showing why he is
one of the elite receivers in the game. He's going
to make a huge difference on the NFL roster next
year right away.
Speaker 2: And he gets it done.
Speaker 1: Brady Cook with an absolute dive of a pass, drops
it in the basket for Burden, and then Burden shakes
the defender and waltzes into the end zone there with
just over a minute to go in the game to
take the lead. They get the two point conversion to
go up by three, and you're looking at the game
colls like they're dead in the water, and Leonora Sellers
does not flinch, comes right back down the field. Big
plays to receivers whose names we have not called very
much all year. You know, Josh Simon is the number
one tight end on this team and he's also the
number one receiver, and so he did his thing yesterday
as well. But at the end of the day is
Rocket Sanders who gets the shovel pass from around the
ten yard line and he can't just can't.
Speaker 2: Get him on the ground.
Speaker 3: Betweens they can tackle, but that play was so so
damn good, Missouri's got their ears pin backs. About twenty
some seconds ago, they're coming after Sellers and you know
they run that shovel it looks like a screen shovel,
and Rockets still has to uh avoid a couple of
tigers there just before it gets the end zone. Yep,
you know like that, that's a hell of a play call.
We're not just taking a shot, We're not just looking
to try that to throw that back shoulder fade at
the end zone. You're putting the ball in our best
player's hands and we're gonna let him make plays. So
hats off to the game Cocks. You know, I think
it would have been easy. I think we've seen seen
this show before. Game Cocks up twenty one six at
halftime and then all of a sudden you're down three
with like a minute to go, and you know we've
seen him fade in the past. But you know, hats
off to Beamer. You know, we I was critical, maybe
maybe they're early I was wrong segment. I was critical
of Beamer early on and said, you know, is he
the right guy? Is? Are we sure this is right?
But Shane has done a great job and continues to
show that, you know, I think come twenty twenty five,
South Carolina is going to be in the mix and
be interested to see what happens who he takes from
the portal rather than being taken from the offseason.
Speaker 2: So the game Cocks have.
Speaker 1: Wafford next week and then they'll finish out against Clinton
and so an opportunity to have a nine win regular
season and cap it off with a double digit season
if they can, if they can win out. Uh, interesting
matchup against Clinton coming in rivalry week, and the implications
will be interesting as well, depending on what happens in
the ACC to see if that game has any playoff
implications as well well, and we'll see, you know, if
if any chaos takes place, what's gonna happen with these
SEC teams? Can I ask this question before I go
to that piece of the conversation. Is Shane Beber the
coach of the year in the SEC?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: I think it's I'm right there. I don't. I don't
think I don't. I don't think there's any I think it's.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Elko would be your
other one.
Speaker 2: And so we'll have to look and see. We'll have
to look and see what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll see how the season, what happens towards the end
of the year, and if Texas A and M gets
into the playoff, I think you may have to give
him the nod, but we'll we will see how that
shakes out. Let's take a look at that, Craig is.
We now have Texas and Texas A and M with
a huge matchup looming, both with one loss currently, and
then you have Georgia Tennessee, Alabama Ole miss All with
two losses, A lot, a lot, a lot.
Speaker 3: Hang on, did you forget somebody? You've been beating the
LSU drum for how long? And where's Luttur buddy Loo?
By the way, But like I thought, I thought Nuts
was gonna be heisman. I thought LSU was there. Like
I don't. I didn't hear you you you say it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite ready for the I was wrong segment.
But let's just jump right in. It's time, ladies and gentlemen,
for the most anticipated moment of the week. I was wrong.
I was wrong about LSU. Okay, I I was wrong
about LSU in April. I was wrong about LSU in
the summer. I was wrong about l s U midway
through the season. You know, about halfway through the season,
my preseason predictions were looking fantastic. I picked them to
lose to the USC but then to pick up steam,
and I was feeling like that.
Speaker 2: Was exactly what was happening.
Speaker 1: You know, they could not stand up against Marcel Reed
at the end of the tations Ay and M game,
they got absolutely destroyed and every bit of confidence that
was left in the team gone and death Valley on
Saturday night against Tide, and so they come out against
the Florida Gators, who I was wrong part two paying
them to go two and ten this year and expected
it the wheels to fall off.
Speaker 2: I expected Napier to be gone mid season.
Speaker 1: Strickland doubles down and holds on the Napier and to
his credit. The key thing here about Napier and his
team is that these players clearly love Billy Napier.
Speaker 3: Chase stop they stop, stop stop. I am so tired
of this positive Billy Napier stuff. This weekend. We heard
it from barretts Lee, we heard it probably know, we
just heard it from you. We've heard it from all
these people and talking about Oh well, thank god Strickland
was stuck with Billy Napier. Did we forget that they
just got house last week by Texas, that when they
play serious people and serious teams, that they're just not good?
Speaker 1: Did we forget that? Like, I'm sorry, Like I'm not
here to say that Strickland made the right move. I'm
still out on Billy Napier. I still think he gets
fired next year. And they're still gonna suck, okay, but
it's not gonna be too intense sucked because the players
play hard. What I expected was Auburn level of meltdown
in Gainesville. I thought they would quit. In past seasons
when things have not gone their way, We've seen them quit.
We've seen them quit, and I thought they would get
to this point where it was clear that the season
was falling apart. And dude, they got to the point
where they were down to the walk on from Yale
and they didn't quit. Now, they didn't have any ability
to do anything against Texas last week, but they didn't
just lay it down. They still played hard and they
came out this week ready to fight against LSU. And
I think that says something about billion aper Year's ability
to motivate, but that's not enough to do anything in
the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 3: How do you got how do you feel this week
against the Little Miss? Then you think they're gonna come
out and they're gonna compete. Philly's gonna Billy's gonna give
it the old college drive this week against Old Miss.
Speaker 2: I think they compete in the first half. Do you
think they is? I do think that they compete in
the first half. We've seen Ole Miss do this in
weeks past.
Speaker 3: We also saw drop a bomb on Arkansas, like two
weeks ago.
Speaker 1: They did drop in Arkansas. They did that. That is
that is accurate. And we saw them beat up on
Georgia pretty pretty well.
Speaker 3: Really, we're going to bring that up. Come on, I
thought we thought we were moved.
Speaker 1: George is inconsistent, so we have to point out those inconsistencies.
But what but we have seen Ole Miss. We have
seen o Miss play with their food a little bit,
and so yeah, I can see because this game is
in Gainsville, I believe I can.
Speaker 2: I can see the Gators coming out with some fight.
Ye uh, I don't think that they can. They're gonna
win the game.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that it's there and Ole Miss
has too much on the line. I don't think that
this Old Miss team is the one that folds under
that type of pressure. If that is the case, they
would have folded against George.
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe in the third quarter. They're gon to
play learning to Fly and it's going to be for Jackson,
Dart and the Rebels about how they are flying, ready
to go into the college podcast.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was wrong about LSU. I was wrong about
Garrett nuss Meyer.
Speaker 3: What's that biolus sixty million?
Speaker 2: That's not happening.
Speaker 1: But I'm starting to there are some questions about There
are some questions not about Brian Kelly as a coach
for me, not about Brian Kelly's ability to win. None
of that is really coming into play for me. This
is just I think we need to give coaches more time.
I'm all bored with that, and I think that he
has the capability of getting it done in the BAYU
long term. My questions are the same, but not to
the not to the strength that they are on the
planes in Auburn, is that there seems to be some
cracks in the culture, and that concerns me a little bit.
Because you can be a great coach, you can be
a great recruiter, but if you don't create a culture
of winning and ultimately, to go back to Shane Bieber,
a culture where everybody loves each other and wants to
play for each other, especially in the portal era, then
sometimes negativity has the ability to break things down for
your team a lot more before.
Speaker 3: I think that that's fair. And Kelly is getting racked
across the coals on LSU Twitter, everyone taking screenshots of
all the nice things he says to his assistants and
his players. It's taking them told she's totally being over
and there with like a Hugh Freeze. But you know,
the interesting perspective is, though, does LSU get hammered by
the portal in the wrong way? Where you know this
this spins off. This goes from you know, Rob picking
you to be in the SEC Championship game to possibly
losing to Vandy this week, maybe finishing six and six
on the year. I mean, that's just that's not gonna
look good.
Speaker 2: So that would be absolutely catastrophic.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, And you think that that to
your point and tying it back to what I just said,
if the culture is out there, the portal is going
to wreck you. And that's not just that's not just
an L s U. That's just about anywhere. And so
that that also is my question about Florida because we
we had the question of can they hang on to
key players? What's happening with DJ Lagway. But the fight
that they put up for a billion Napier says to
me that maybe they have some some pride in the
Orange and blue.
Speaker 3: Why is the why is the fight only when they're
at home? Like what goes? I think that that that's
my biggest question. That's something we can't answer here. But
Napier has shown he can he can win with the swamp.
It's when he leaves the swamp that things tend to
go sideways.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, you know there's there's the ias wrong segment Florida.
Speaker 3: So so back to your question. You've got Texas and
Texas A and M the one loss. You've got Georgia, Tennessee,
Alabama and Old miss with two losses. What is your question,
my friend.
Speaker 1: How do you see this shaken out? Because there's so
many scenarios here. You get the matchup between the Texas
schools Yep. If Texas A and M loses, we look
at strengthen to schedule. Are they on the outside looking in?
Are they the two loss to team that doesn't get there?
And to be honest with you, we can flip that
statement around. At Texas A and M w wins and
Texas loses, do we look at strength of schedule and
say they're the one on the outside looking in? And
the follow up question is do you really want to
go to the SEC Championship and risk losing that game
being a three loss team and giving the selection committee
an opportunity to say you're out because you have three losses,
even though I would call that ridiculous.
Speaker 3: All right, to answer your two questions, first and foremost,
you're making the same mistake at Texas A and M
and your coach of the Year candidate, Mike Uncle could
be making focusing too much on the game. In College
Station seven thirty Saturday night, they go down to Jordan
Hare at Auburn. Weird stuff happens at Jordan Hare at night.
We talked, but nope, but hang on, hang on. Texas
A and M already did not show up at night.
Two weeks ago, in Colombia, my I need to see.
Speaker 2: So different caliber of teams.
Speaker 3: Though it's a different caliber of teams. But Jordan Hare
will be packed, those fans will be lubricated, the waffle
house will be flowing. So I want to So I'm
going to reserve judgment on Texas and in Texas it's a.
Speaker 2: Difference for me. Here's the difference for me, though. You
know in Colombia you have with Lenora sellers who can
shake packers.
Speaker 1: And he he shook off multiple Texas A and M
defenders who hit him in the backfield.
Speaker 2: We really betting on Peyton Thorne to do that? Or
is he going to fall? He's got to crumple like
a wet sack when he gets hit.
Speaker 3: So I read something where this is the first season
that Auburn actually has a thousand yard rusher and a
thousand yard receiver ever in their history, which is wild
with me. But Thorn does have a little bit of shake.
He has shake you you always got one. He has
one in his bag. So I'm gonna I'm gonna reserve judgment.
Speaker 1: Where's coming from? Where is this coming this? Here's your
iurs wrong segment preview? Where is this love for Hugh
freeze in Auburn and the magic of Jordan Hare when
we've talked about how it's dead this year, when their
culture has completely collapsed, and we're calling for him.
Speaker 2: To walk away. And I don't know, I don't know where.
I don't know where this belief is coming from. This
is new, this is news to me.
Speaker 3: My belief is my lack of faith in Texas A andem.
I do not believe. I don't believe in them. I
really don't. There it is and that's it like, and.
Speaker 1: So I'm so you would say, then, so you would
say then as we look at Texas, Texas A, and M, Bama, Georgia, Ole,
Miss Tennessee. And if we have to cut one off
the top, we're cutting Texas A and M down to five.
But I still think the problem is going to be
if the committee, if the committee goes four and four,
because the way things shake out in the Big ten,
it comes down to eye test, is really where I
think this conversation goes.
Speaker 2: I fletely agree with you. I agree with you it
should be five and three.
Speaker 1: I don't trust Ward Manuel and his band of merry
men to get this done in the right way, especially
being a Michigan man and sticking up for the Big ten.
Speaker 2: I feel like it could easily go. It could easily
go four and four.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I'm going to go back
to his quotes about the eye test and when he
says eye test, what he means is explosive offenses. And
so then for me, who's getting left out of the
explosive offense conversation, that.
Speaker 2: Would be the faults.
Speaker 3: Maybe. But here, you know, to answer your second question,
when you did ask Courtney our friend from MBG talk
about not wanting to go to the SEC Championship because
she didn't want.
Speaker 2: To lose, and she's a Bamograd, she's a.
Speaker 3: But here's the deal. Is that the standard Nick Saban said, Oh,
I'm going to avoid Saban always want to go win
the championship. And then when absolutely right, So so go
win the championship. You don't avoid, You go play, and
you go and win the championship. You go take what yours.
That is what it's called a winning culture. So any
team that wants to lose or sit out the SEC Championship,
you're not going to win. You are not a serious team.
You are not you are not in contention. I understand
the logic of, oh my gosh, we have three losses.
Here's the deal. You're the s C, You're the Southeastern Conference.
Even with three losses, your conference loser will probably still
get in the playoff. Okay, so there's your answer.
Speaker 2: Probably, so.
Speaker 3: I believe in it. I believe in it. I believe
in it. But here, here, here, here's your prediction. Answer it.
Tex Texas, A and M gets wiped off the map,
and they go dancing their way back to Texas. You know,
they go back to dance no way to the college station.
SEC gets five teams in Georgia, Alabama and Old Miskeet
to host a home game. Tennessee will be on the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. What about Texas Texas gets to buy Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Texas Texas wins
s championship gets to buy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 1: If I if I'm if, I'm pinned down and I
have to make a prediction.
Speaker 2: There's honestly, there's so much up in the air.
Speaker 1: The non SEC game of the week for me was
Kansas and and b y U and I called it
not on this show, but I'll just say, like you
could feel that when coming Kansas was not as bad
as three and six looked, and BYU is not as
good as eight and no looked.
Speaker 2: And so if some chaos can happen over there, and
look out college.
Speaker 1: Game day in Columbus for the Hoosiers and the Buckeyes,
if we can get a little chaos up there, or
if we can get some ACC chaos, it's going to
change the narrative of all these conversations.
Speaker 3: I'm right there. So you've got Penn State.
Speaker 1: We can't control any of that, not that we can
even control the SEC, but we have a lot I
feel like better grasp on what's happening in the best
league in college football.
Speaker 2: And so that's what we're here to debate. But outside
of the four or five.
Speaker 1: Six worth teams in the SEC, you also have the
chaotic nature of these other leagues, especially the Big twelve
in the ACC, because the parody of all of them
being middle tier team causes it to be absolutely unpredictable
in those leagues. The Big the Big ten seems to
be a little more in place, but Oregon was shaky
yesterday as well.
Speaker 3: Can I can I ask you one quick question. Absolutely,
What does your buddy Ward manual do when Oregon loses
their last regular season game to Washington because your boy
Landing can't still beat the Huskies, and then they lose
again to Ohio State. How far does Oregon fall.
Speaker 1: That's a difficult question because then you're gonna have a
win Ana loss against Ohio State, which I think will
balance it out if it was. If it was two
losses without that quality win somewhere in there, you might
have to throw them out.
Speaker 3: Robi be crying over his humid door in Sigarlett, Dan,
it was your time. It's a hard time.
Speaker 1: I'm standing on I'm still standing on business. It is
twenty twenty four Big Ten champion, Dan Landing until proven otherwise.
By the way, I'm slow rolling by the beautiful Nashville
Skyline right here next to Nissan Stadium as the Titans
and the Vikings are playing here on Sunday afternoon. If
this eighteen wheeler would move out of the way, Mike
could see Will Levis getting put on his butt once again.
Speaker 3: Go get some hot chicken way there.
Speaker 2: I would love to get some hot chicken while I'm here.
Speaker 1: However, the nine hour drive home does not uh does
not allow for me to take any detours except for dinner.
And you know what, just like on my way up,
I think I'm gonna stop in old Rocky Top, Knoxville, check.
Speaker 2: In and see how many tears I.
Speaker 1: Can catch in my cup while I while I stop
for dinner over there.
Speaker 3: You've got a spot in max Phille.
Speaker 2: You like to go, well, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I went fast food on the way up, semi fast food.
Speaker 2: I went with a wing stop stop on the way up.
Speaker 3: That's okay, and I sat out.
Speaker 1: Uh, the hickory smoked barbecue. I do like the I
do like the mango have an arrow. I'm not afraid
of I'm not afraid of the heat. I like to
turn the heat up. If I was to stop and
get to Nashville Hot Chicken right now, I usually go
like one step under the hottest thing that they have.
I'm not trying to kill kill myself out here, but
I do appreciate the heat.
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Nissan Stadium is very full.
Speaker 1: I can see the upper deck and the Titans are
absolutely terrible.
Speaker 3: That's just would you would you know more about this
than I would?
Speaker 1: That is just shocking. It is I mean, it is slammed.
That's that's insane anyway. All right, So we've covered last
week's games, we've talked about I was wrong. Now it's
time to look at next week. What's the biggest what's
the biggest game that you're watching on next week's slate?
Speaker 3: Biggest game besides you Mass in Georgia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that we're safe to count that one out.
Speaker 3: Okay, I am interested in l s U and Vanderbilt.
I want to see if so that's goin to a
Tiger stadium. You know, I think these are gonna be
the two interests. So my quadbox is going to be
Texas and Texas A and M Auburn, Vanderbilt, LSU and
doesn't really matter. So those those are my eyes are
I'm interested to see what does LSU do to respond?
Are they still do they still have a pulse? And
here's the other question. I think, uh PAVIA has faded
a little bit with Vandy. Does Vandy have any magic left?
Because I think the hot seat is very very interesting.
Should Vandy go down to LSU and win anything?
Speaker 2: For you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do agree with you. That one's really interesting.
We have seen the trouble with running quarterbacks or LSU.
I think for me it's Florida and ole Miss because
with our affinity for ole Miss this season and riding
the momentum of the Lane train and my picks for
Florida to fallow up part there's you know, there's really
one last ditch effort to break the Gators, and that
is in the hands of Jackson, Dart and company. So
I'll be interested to see, not that I'm not that
I'm really pulling for that, but I'm just seeing if
my if my predictions will be true. And on the
flip side, just like I said, I think there's some
fight left in Gainesville.
Speaker 2: This cannot be.
Speaker 1: A play with your food game for the Rebels because
you you still may need some style points. All these
two loss teams need to do what they can do
to impress the committee with what the eye test if
it could come down to that.
Speaker 3: So speaking of eye tests, we've got one more seven
thirty game. We got three seventh Why do we have
three of the three seven thirty games that SEC come on?
We got to bounce that better, Disney, get someone, get
out of the mouse, call them. How many points is
that Obama gonna beat Oklahoma by? Is that a thirty
five point game.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite thirty five. I still believe
in Oklahoma's defense. The problem with Oklahoma's defense two.
Speaker 2: They're often man.
Speaker 1: Their offense just puts them in such terrible positions that
they inevitably break down. Because I think that they're talented.
I think Brent Vintibles is a good defensive coach. But
it's just over the course of time, over the course
of the game, they get put in back on the field,
back on the field, back on the field, turnover in
short yardage, like it's difficult for them to keep the
other team from scoring a lot. I'm gonna go, like,
maybe maybe closer to twenty twenty four, twenty four point game.
Speaker 2: No more.
Speaker 3: Where I'm at, No forty two to seven. You heard
it here?
Speaker 2: I was right, Okay, we'll see what happens, all right.
Speaker 3: What do you got for last word?
Speaker 1: So the last word is about Christmas trees because it
is the Christmas season, it is time prior to last word.
And I want to know, Craig for you, is it
a fake tree or real tree? I heard you were
putting your tree up.
Speaker 3: I did put my today and unfortunately today we got
a plastic tree, a fake tree. I am a big
fraser Fur guy, but little one has allergies. So we
had to go and made the dad call to say, yes,
we will get a plastic tree. So we have a
fake tree. But you know what, we went to add home.
We got a nice deal on it. Originally got the
nine and a half footer, ended up being too tall,
was hit the ceiling. So this morning I went back,
got the seven and a half footer all set up
and it looks gorgeous. But I'm gonna be honest, Rob,
there's a little tear in my eye because I do
love my real tree, the Fraser Fur.
Speaker 1: I agree a Fraser Fer all the way. I love
a real tree, love a real tree. We get a
real tree every year, so I just not up yet.
But I'm the one fighting for the real tree in
our house and we'll continue to do so. I think
I've got one time to if I'm the snake in it,
and that's going to really do me in on getting
the real tree every year.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Did you ever go cut it down yourself?
Speaker 2: We do go cut it down ourselves.
Speaker 1: And so the problem with that is is the stand
and the balance. I came home a few years ago
and it had flipped over, spilled water everywhere, ornaments all
over the place. I was home alone, so I stood
it back up, cleaned up the mask, got the ornaments
back on. But I realized once I got it back
up that I had to get it back on to
the stand, on to the point of the stand.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't do that without putting it back down.
Speaker 1: And so I just stood there for ten minutes, trapped
under the tree because I was home alone, thinking of
a way, and I couldn't figure it out, and ultimately
had to respill the water and the ornaments and lay
it back down to balance it and then go back
and fix it in the right order.
Speaker 2: So the tree, the tree gives me.
Speaker 1: Some problems, but at least it's not on fire like
Uncle Lewis has been at my house, so we'll try
to stay away from that, all right, everybody, this has
been it just mean it's more football and coffee. I'm
Rob Williams, He's Craig McMichael. We will see you next time.
Speaker 3: Enjoy drive home, Robbie
Speaker 2: H