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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to

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<v Speaker 2>kill your dog?

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<v Speaker 3>My dog.

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<v Speaker 2>We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm really confused. All

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<v Speaker 2>I saw was my dog coming over the fence, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would dead once you hit the grill. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got

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<v Speaker 2>some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>see what it was? It was enough out here. Look

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<v Speaker 2>him near the window now, and I don't need anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. Its point, you're hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit somebody out here? What quent on out there? I've

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<v Speaker 2>thought of a bit about sixty ft nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know easy. I'm out there, Yeah, I'm walking right head.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh greetings is Fred Alaska. Thanks for joining me. What

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to share with you today comes from a

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<v Speaker 3>remote village. Now, this guy only wanted to share because

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<v Speaker 3>he felt it was important. Like a lot of my

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<v Speaker 3>fellow natives, there's a lot of superstition involved around the

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<v Speaker 3>hairy Man and Harryman experiences. There's a level of feared

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<v Speaker 3>that if you speak about him, they'll come around. Bad

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<v Speaker 3>omens can happen, something tragic could happen in the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in all cultures, but in quite a few. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing is, it started somewhere, so there's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>grains of truth in it. What happened with him happened

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<v Speaker 3>over the course of jeez since he was little. Now

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<v Speaker 3>at his grandpa's house, they have a smokehouse back behind

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<v Speaker 3>the house. As a kid, some of his earliest memories

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<v Speaker 3>are helping hang the fish to smoke and dry and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>At one of these summer camps that he would go

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<v Speaker 3>and help put fish away and help smoke and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>He was at the back end on the inside of

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<v Speaker 3>this smokehouse, and he said was fairly large, eight foot wide,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve foot long, a lot of room for racks in

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<v Speaker 3>there because they had a large family. He's in the

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<v Speaker 3>back he's adjusting the fish because somehow one of the

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<v Speaker 3>racks had fallen a little bit and the fish slid down,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he was resetting it up. They had screen

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<v Speaker 3>and they also had boards on the outside that you

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<v Speaker 3>can close it down to hold in the smoke or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but they happened to be open, and he was looking

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<v Speaker 3>straight out the back because he kept hearing a weird

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<v Speaker 3>chattering kind of sound, really high pitched, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>different than any squirrely ever heard or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So he looks and notices this kind of a reddish

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<v Speaker 3>brown thing about fifty feet away. It looked small when

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<v Speaker 3>he was looking, because he was just a little kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He thought, oh, someone's dog. He ignored it. All of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, he hears a kind of sound, like a

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<v Speaker 3>large exhale, and he turns and looks. Within a foot away,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this thing look at him right in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, he was so freaked out in that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>He just remember seeing the eyes they were black and beady,

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<v Speaker 3>and the hair because it was right there. It was silhouetted,

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<v Speaker 3>but he could see the glean in the eye from

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<v Speaker 3>the daylight. He immediately bolted out of there. It runs in.

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<v Speaker 3>His auntie and his grandma were there, and he's screaming, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>there's something out there. There's something out there, and he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what. They said what is it? And he

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<v Speaker 3>just said bear. So they all go out. Thing is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>But what had happened is that screen was pushed in

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<v Speaker 3>and that particular rack he was fixing the fish on

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<v Speaker 3>half of it was missing. So they're like, where's the fish.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking on the ground. They figure, okay, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bear. The bear got away. We'll just keep a

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<v Speaker 3>watch and let it go. A few years later, he

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<v Speaker 3>was approximately eleven, he was further outside the village. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this village is off of the Yukon River. He still

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<v Speaker 3>lives there today. He doesn't want any no to ariety

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<v Speaker 3>or any kind of acknowledgment. Of his shallow villagers. They

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it, but in hush terms, and none of

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<v Speaker 3>them would willingly come on this channel. He just felt

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<v Speaker 3>compelled to share this because he knows there's other people

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<v Speaker 3>going through it. Right. He's about eleven. He's outside the

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<v Speaker 3>village heading west looking for cariblue sign. He's with his

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<v Speaker 3>older uncle and a cousin. And as they're going back

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<v Speaker 3>along this trail, because they're doing it on foot, they

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<v Speaker 3>had wheelered up to a certain point and then they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't go any further because it was just a real

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<v Speaker 3>narrow path and they weren't going to bushwhack to get

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<v Speaker 3>the wheelers through. So they're on foot and they're approximately

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<v Speaker 3>half mile away from their wheelers. As they break the

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<v Speaker 3>tree line, he said, they noticed or large things brown,

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<v Speaker 3>all moving from right to left in front of them

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<v Speaker 3>really fast, and they were bigger than any bears. But

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<v Speaker 3>they were down on all fours, just going. So they

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<v Speaker 3>stood there and just watched these things because they were

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<v Speaker 3>at a pretty good distance and the critters didn't to

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<v Speaker 3>notice them, so they just conquered down and watch, and

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<v Speaker 3>they just booked it across the flats and hit some

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<v Speaker 3>trees about gosh, quite a bit of ways way. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just over with. They're like, oh okay, So they

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<v Speaker 3>continue on and figured, let's go further and see if

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<v Speaker 3>we could find cariblue signs so we can at least

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<v Speaker 3>bag a nice bowl. As they cut back, they get

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<v Speaker 3>back to the far end of the tundra and this

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<v Speaker 3>is like a huge ring of black spruce around them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's real swampy in the middle and not so

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<v Speaker 3>swampy at the edges. Right, So they're cutting around the

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<v Speaker 3>edge on the opposite side where they seen these things run.

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<v Speaker 3>And as they get to the area of where these

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<v Speaker 3>things were running through. His older cousin noticed, hey, look

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<v Speaker 3>at this track, because they were very similar to Vincent.

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<v Speaker 3>He sent in some picks of the one track that

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<v Speaker 3>just broke through the tundra of so heavy, so they

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<v Speaker 3>were very similar to that. Now they all stopped. They

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<v Speaker 3>all looked. They were trying to figure out, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a big bear. They're figuring it was a double footprint.

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<v Speaker 3>No big deal. The bears took off. We're good at

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<v Speaker 3>a distance. They couldn't really make it out of what

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<v Speaker 3>it really was, but they were just going with bear

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<v Speaker 3>because it made sense with what they were reading with

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<v Speaker 3>the track or His uncle was a little bit reserved

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<v Speaker 3>on exactly if it was a bear or not. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really say too much to say, mmon, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>So they continue on and they made it about another mile,

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<v Speaker 3>and walking through tundra it's like walking on a spongy bed.

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<v Speaker 3>It could wear you out. If your cardio ain't up

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd just been blaxed days ago, all year long,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you get up and start walking on tundra,

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<v Speaker 3>it could wear you out pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Him being eleven, he was full of energy, but his

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<v Speaker 3>uncle was tired. So they decided to stop. Uncle was

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there, and they break out the snacks. They brought

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<v Speaker 3>some dry fish and some other stuff. As they were

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<v Speaker 3>eating back behind them, they started hearing noises off way

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<v Speaker 3>across at that other tree line where they saw these

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<v Speaker 3>four things run off into. So they're eating their snacks

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<v Speaker 3>and now just every once in a while they hear

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<v Speaker 3>weird noise and they would draw their attention back that way.

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<v Speaker 3>About the fourth or fifth time they heard this noise,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, his uncle stands up real quick, turns and

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<v Speaker 3>is looking in that direction, grabs the binoculars out of

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<v Speaker 3>his pack and looks, and then tells them, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>gather up your stuff, let's go. So instead of going

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<v Speaker 3>back the path they took, which would have been easiest,

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<v Speaker 3>his uncle took them way around. He said, it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>three miles longer to get around as they're circling back

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<v Speaker 3>towards where their wheelers are. Basically, what his uncle had

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<v Speaker 3>did is they were at like a peninsula where the

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<v Speaker 3>trees are right, not a literal peninsula, but the trees

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<v Speaker 3>came out in a little peninsula, and that's where they're

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<v Speaker 3>at the tip, looking out on the tundra. So they

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<v Speaker 3>went around that backside. Instead of cutting back just straight

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<v Speaker 3>on back the way they came, they cut around. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's this peninsula trees that comes out. And as they're

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<v Speaker 3>back on the making their way back through in those trees,

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<v Speaker 3>they start hearing things and they start hearing this cracking,

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<v Speaker 3>and he remembers his uncle said, get in front of me,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, get moving faster. They were all armed, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so they thought not of it. Okay, he's a little

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<v Speaker 3>spook because of the bears. Will just keep moving. So

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<v Speaker 3>as they're going along pace to the right, more to

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<v Speaker 3>the right, cut up into the trees. To the right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's that small path following his little game trail. He

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to keep them on task and focus on

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<v Speaker 3>what they were doing. And meanwhile his uncle was constantly

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<v Speaker 3>pausing every once in a while listening looking back in

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<v Speaker 3>that direction that the noise was coming from in the trees.

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<v Speaker 3>As they get about, he said, probably one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 3>into the trees, it got pretty thick because of the

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<v Speaker 3>brush and stuff, low bush, cranberries and some willows and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff along with the black spruce. They can get real dense.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys seen plenty of examples of that. Here. They

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<v Speaker 3>get to a certain point about one hundred yards in.

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<v Speaker 3>His cousin has a cramp in his legs, so he

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<v Speaker 3>asked if they could take a break. The uncle's constantly

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<v Speaker 3>focused in the direction at this noise. Because the noise

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<v Speaker 3>that was going on with cracking noises, like a weird

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<v Speaker 3>stomping sound, just weirdness, high strangeness, stuff they weren't accustomed to,

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<v Speaker 3>was a continuous thing. It wasn't just hit and miss.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on a continuous basis, and it seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>be all just in one spot. It wasn't like moving

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<v Speaker 3>towards him at the moment or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>we said, as his cousin was wretching his calf out

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff because of his cramp and whatnot, because he

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<v Speaker 3>was wearing boots that were too small. He borrowed a

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<v Speaker 3>cousin's knee boots and they were just a little too small,

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<v Speaker 3>so he was pinching his foot and causing his calf

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<v Speaker 3>to cramp. He's got the boot off and he's rubbing

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<v Speaker 3>his calf, and they're talking about those little rubber band planes,

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<v Speaker 3>You wind them up. They're talking about play with toes

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<v Speaker 3>when they get home. Just kid shit. The uncle all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden says, get up, move. Unbeknounced to them.

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<v Speaker 3>The uncle had been watching and this thing was moving

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<v Speaker 3>outflank them. He said, his uncle didn't give a whole

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<v Speaker 3>sized boots. They moved so quickly he just leapt the

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<v Speaker 3>boot there and was walking one footed, basically one boot on. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Uncle as later, where's the hell's your other boot?

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<v Speaker 3>at the same distance. It didn't seem like it was

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<v Speaker 3>uncle did know, is this particular little game trail hooks

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<v Speaker 3>back over to the wheelers, and this thing was heading

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<v Speaker 3>towards where the wheelers were. They get a little further

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<v Speaker 3>down this trail and it starts curving to the right,

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<v Speaker 3>right where the curve starts. His uncle has him stop

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<v Speaker 3>and sit down. His uncle went about fifteen feet away,

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<v Speaker 3>looking in the direction that he had seen this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He watched his uncle scope this thing and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>do this number, look back again, and the second time

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<v Speaker 3>he lifted the rifle and looked to the scope. They

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<v Speaker 3>heard the scream, he said. The scream was very low,

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<v Speaker 3>a mixed between like a lion and a bear along

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<v Speaker 3>with a bobcat. It was on multiple octaves with loud

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<v Speaker 3>as shit, he said. And when the scream happened, his

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<v Speaker 3>uncle didn't flinch or anything. His uncle took the safety

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<v Speaker 3>off his rifle was mumbling something. He couldn't make it

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<v Speaker 3>out because of the loud scream. Everything just went hyper

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<v Speaker 3>crazy because they were in fear. His older cousin was

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe thirteen. I'm not very old experienced hunters, So

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<v Speaker 3>they're scared. Uncle standing over there as he's mumbling, all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, the rifle boom. The uncle fires off

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<v Speaker 3>a shot, racks another round in because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>bolt action tells the boys stand up, get up. So

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<v Speaker 3>they stand up, and he goes, come on, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>start down the trail. They didn't know what happened. They figured, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>uncle just shot something, so they continue on. They're following

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<v Speaker 3>orders at this time. The uncle told them to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure you have your armol ready and keep your guns

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<v Speaker 3>on safety, but make sure you have a round in

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<v Speaker 3>the chamber in case you need it. They figured, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it must be a bear and we need to be

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<v Speaker 3>ready so they can end up a little bit. Because

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<v Speaker 3>they were young, so they checked their good They're going

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<v Speaker 3>down the trail and they got not quite a mile

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<v Speaker 3>before the four whever, so they got a distance through

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<v Speaker 3>all this shit, and from what he said his uncle,

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<v Speaker 3>he said it because of so long ago, it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to remember exactly how it seemed like equal increments. They

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<v Speaker 3>would stop. The uncle would look around again, reassassin and

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<v Speaker 3>have them continue. So about the fourth time of doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>he shoots again again. He was lifting up the sculpe,

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<v Speaker 3>looking from behind tree watching this thing. They figure, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just keeping the bear at bay. Make it to

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<v Speaker 3>almost eyesight of the four wheelers. They can see the

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<v Speaker 3>clearing coming up. They know right where the four wheelers are.

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<v Speaker 3>They're almost there, so they get a little laxed because

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<v Speaker 3>they're young and they're tired. The one cousin's got one

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<v Speaker 3>blue lace hobbling along. They're just about to come into

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<v Speaker 3>the clearing when the uncle tells him to get down

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. So they get down on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, what's going on? And the uncle's looking in

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<v Speaker 3>the direction of the clearing and he goes, oh, no, Boom,

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<v Speaker 3>fires are shot racksing up on them. Boom goes to fire

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<v Speaker 3>another one, but he only had four rounds, so he

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<v Speaker 3>had to stop open the bolt, reaching his pocket and

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<v Speaker 3>start loading rounds into his rifle. As he's doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>there's another screen and they hear thrashing and running away.

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<v Speaker 3>They listen for a minute. He's reloaded, he's looking. There's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, come on, let's go. They get up to

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<v Speaker 3>the four wheelers. None of them were hurt or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They were turned. It was like something just move the

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<v Speaker 3>back ends of them turned them and actually helped them

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<v Speaker 3>because they were nosed in and when they came back,

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<v Speaker 3>they were all kind of turned to where they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even have to back up. They get his boop, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're all looking around and there's these tracks again.

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<v Speaker 3>As his uncle is keeping cover basically because they can

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<v Speaker 3>still hear noise off in the trees. His uncle said,

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<v Speaker 3>start them up, start mine up. So his cousin starts

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<v Speaker 3>his uncles and they each start theirs. He tells them

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<v Speaker 3>start heading back. Start heading back. Now, I'm right behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>They start wheelering out and they're just about to in

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<v Speaker 3>this little turnaround area. They're just about to hit the

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<v Speaker 3>wheeler trail and they both stop and look back and

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<v Speaker 3>his uncle's got the rifle up again and lets off

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<v Speaker 3>three rounds. Boom, boom, boom. They can't see what he's

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<v Speaker 3>shooting at. Boom, lets off, three jumps on the wheeler,

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<v Speaker 3>puts rifle in the rifle rack and burn. He's go go.

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<v Speaker 3>So they go back to the village.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out see. Right back

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<v Speaker 1>after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>That night, his uncle is talking to Gustie's dad. He's

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<v Speaker 3>telling him, hey, there's a good child out there, a harryman.

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<v Speaker 3>It followed us. I would shoot at it, not to

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<v Speaker 3>hit it, but to scare it away. But it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem scared. I kept the boys moving or whatever. Just

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<v Speaker 3>lays out everything he did. But Gusty was able to

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<v Speaker 3>hear what his uncle was seeing at this point from

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<v Speaker 3>what he said, when they got back by the wheelers,

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<v Speaker 3>and his uncle said, oh no, he saw one of

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<v Speaker 3>them messing with the wheelers and didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 3>stranded and have to fully walk back, and that's when

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<v Speaker 3>he shot it twice. He said, he shot it twice

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<v Speaker 3>and it took off running, so he knew what he

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<v Speaker 3>was looking at. He was looking at sasquatch a harry Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Last way, he told the boys start up the wheelers,

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<v Speaker 3>have him start minding stuff, because he wanted to really

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<v Speaker 3>run this thing off. And according to what his uncle said,

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<v Speaker 3>he shot it again three more times at about one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty yards because it was standing just on

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<v Speaker 3>the trail they went through earlier that day. It was

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<v Speaker 3>standing just right down the trail. Popped three shots at it.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, he's pretty sure he hit it because subsistence

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<v Speaker 3>hunters they know where they're shooting. When hunting is your

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<v Speaker 3>way of life, it's like a professional race car driver.

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<v Speaker 3>They make it look easy. He tells Gusty's dad what

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<v Speaker 3>happened or whatever. The portion that really sunk in for

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<v Speaker 3>Gusty was the next day his uncle and dad and

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<v Speaker 3>a family friend went back out there, left the kids

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<v Speaker 3>at home right that night. When they got back, they

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<v Speaker 3>all look like they've seen a ghost. According to what

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<v Speaker 3>he heard around the guys talking around the table was

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<v Speaker 3>when they got back out there, uncle was relaying to

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<v Speaker 3>Gusty's dad what happened, and was walking them through, not literally,

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<v Speaker 3>but just say, we're over here. We came out this

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<v Speaker 3>trail when we saw it here, this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>then I shot it down this trail. It just so happened.

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<v Speaker 3>As they were there, they get screamed at from off

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<v Speaker 3>to their left hand side. They're not wallflowers. They had

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<v Speaker 3>their rifles ready and stuff. They're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what the hell, and as they're doing so, there's another

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<v Speaker 3>scream right off to their right, and then one out

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<v Speaker 3>that trail, and then one behind them. So they're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there's one all around us. Obviously they're upset. According to

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<v Speaker 3>what was said, as they were standing there, they were

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<v Speaker 3>just waiting for one to show itself right. According to

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<v Speaker 3>what the men said around the table, the uncle took

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<v Speaker 3>first shot again because he saw a movement in the trees,

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<v Speaker 3>got his rifle up and squeezed off a shot. Right

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<v Speaker 3>after his shot, they said, the screaming. They could hear

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<v Speaker 3>all four of these beings running around, all at distance,

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<v Speaker 3>but they could hear them clearly running around, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>making this weird gibberish sound. There was clicks and pops,

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<v Speaker 3>There was gibberish. Some of it sounded like you pick,

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<v Speaker 3>but they couldn't make it out. It was this craziness

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<v Speaker 3>all around them. So they just jumped on the wheelers

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<v Speaker 3>and got out of there. The reason they were so

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<v Speaker 3>freaked out is they all had, according to what was

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<v Speaker 3>said at the table, they had all been spoken to

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<v Speaker 3>in their mind telling them they were going to die.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where that whole saga hands there. He has more

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that he just wanted to share. That the other

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<v Speaker 3>stuff he shared privately, and I respect that it won't

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<v Speaker 3>be public. I want to thank him for sharing that experience.

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<v Speaker 3>His big thing was people need to They don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be scared to go out in the woods, but

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<v Speaker 3>just be aware of what's happening around you. Situational awareness

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<v Speaker 3>is key, especially in Alaska and any hunter. I know

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<v Speaker 3>my buddies, they're always keyed up and on point. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing is, you can't be hyper paranoid, especially with a garden.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing worse than someone panicked with a firearm. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>bad combination. But if you're level headed and you can

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<v Speaker 3>keep your cooled and all the better. All says, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a village off the Yukon River. I will't divulge anything

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<v Speaker 3>else out of respect for what he requested. He wants

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<v Speaker 3>to tell all his fellow villagers, wherever the village may be,

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<v Speaker 3>just be aware, he said, I'm sure they all already know.

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<v Speaker 3>And we chuckled about that, because what the outside world

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't realize is in the villages. I talk to a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people. There's little people's story, Harry Man's stories,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're all current. These aren't like ancient tales and

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<v Speaker 3>mythology and folklore, not bullshit. This is what's happening today,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. These are all current events

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone's speaking of. So it's just a different world.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many places that whitewash things to make it

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<v Speaker 3>more palatable for those who don't understand. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>share what you guys comes from Ariel, Jeff and Candace

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<v Speaker 3>Arrow and Jeff or mom and dad. Candace is their daughter. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They used to live in Rabbit Creek Valley, which is

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<v Speaker 3>south Anchorage over upper hillside, basically south of Bankriage, where

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<v Speaker 3>they happened to live where they were renting from. They're

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<v Speaker 3>only four houses on this road, and they were spread apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're back up into that upper alpine type of area,

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<v Speaker 3>so a lot of scrub brush, very few trees. They

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<v Speaker 3>had this two story kind of a frame style cabin

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<v Speaker 3>they were renting, huge bait windows in the front, gorgeous

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<v Speaker 3>views south facing. When you're in the kitchen area, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the back of the lower level, you have a

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<v Speaker 3>counter over on your left hand side as this wood

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<v Speaker 3>stove that was about six feet from the bay windows

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<v Speaker 3>and everything. The rest of the house was loft style

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<v Speaker 3>above with two bedrooms up there. So the way it

414
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<v Speaker 3>was explained to me was they'd rented this place for

415
00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:28.279
<v Speaker 3>a long time, almost a decade. Rail and Jeff were

416
00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.599
<v Speaker 3>just married when they moved there. Candice, the daughter, is

417
00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:35.359
<v Speaker 3>now fourteen going on fifteen, and so we're going back

418
00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:39.119
<v Speaker 3>fifteen sixteen years. Ariel and Jeff. It just moved in.

419
00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Ariel just found out she's pregnant, so they're excited about

420
00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.839
<v Speaker 3>bringing a child into their marriage and all that happy

421
00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff that goes along with it. Within the first month,

422
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.880
<v Speaker 3>because they moved in midsummer, it's going into fall time,

423
00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:57.359
<v Speaker 3>they noticed weird howls off in the distance, which would

424
00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.119
<v Speaker 3>be due east to where they were at heard it

425
00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.640
<v Speaker 3>clearly all the time. They asked the neighbors, do you

426
00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.599
<v Speaker 3>hear these howls? And a couple of them, I don't

427
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.519
<v Speaker 3>know what you're talking about. Another one was like, yeah,

428
00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:09.519
<v Speaker 3>I hear it, just be aware. No one was really

429
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.759
<v Speaker 3>speaking much about it, which made Jeff angry because we

430
00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.319
<v Speaker 3>live out here together. We need to know if there's

431
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:17.400
<v Speaker 3>like a pack of wolves around. We're going to have

432
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:19.640
<v Speaker 3>a child soon. We need to know this stuff, right.

433
00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.160
<v Speaker 3>He was a little disheartened at how closed off a

434
00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of his neighbors were. It's expensive to live back

435
00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.279
<v Speaker 3>in there. Most of the places back in there pretty high

436
00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.319
<v Speaker 3>end stuff. For the first couple of years, they would

437
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:35.599
<v Speaker 3>just mainly in the fall time, early fall to mid fall,

438
00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>never in the late fall, but early mid fall, they

439
00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.839
<v Speaker 3>would hear these screams, weird howls off to the east.

440
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.920
<v Speaker 3>He said. It seemed like every time they heard it,

441
00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.200
<v Speaker 3>they would hear it closer. Now the way this place

442
00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:51.200
<v Speaker 3>is laid out, The first time things went real wonky

443
00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.839
<v Speaker 3>ears approximately two years in the living there, Cannis was

444
00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.480
<v Speaker 3>just toddler. A year and a half or so. They

445
00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:01.480
<v Speaker 3>were in the kitchen behind and the little breakfast bar

446
00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.759
<v Speaker 3>thing their baby, Cannae was in one of those little

447
00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.559
<v Speaker 3>bouncy chair things, just off to the side from their view.

448
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:11.119
<v Speaker 3>It was just getting dark. They're behind this breakfast bar

449
00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.799
<v Speaker 3>looking out their bay windows. Now, out those bay windows,

450
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.920
<v Speaker 3>when you're facing looking out, there's a deck that starts

451
00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.880
<v Speaker 3>to the left and wraps around to the right to

452
00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.799
<v Speaker 3>a stairway that goes down, and just off of that

453
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:28.519
<v Speaker 3>stairway is the hot tub. Low port over it, not

454
00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 3>covering it, just open hot tub right there on a slab.

455
00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:34.519
<v Speaker 3>There was also a two car garage beneath them, so

456
00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.000
<v Speaker 3>it was pretty much three story, but two stories shown

457
00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:40.599
<v Speaker 3>because it's dug into the hillside kind of deal. So

458
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.640
<v Speaker 3>they're looking out and they're not really paying attention out

459
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.880
<v Speaker 3>the window. They got floodlights all over the place. So

460
00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:50.440
<v Speaker 3>anything lose by they've seen bear, moose, fox, you name it, links,

461
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.240
<v Speaker 3>all that shit, they've seen it all come and go. Well,

462
00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the floodlights turn on, they don't see anything out in

463
00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 3>the driveway because they're rightfully, so they're worried about bears,

464
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.440
<v Speaker 3>especially that part of town because you got Mchu Creek

465
00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:04.079
<v Speaker 3>just south of them. You know, there's sam that get

466
00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 3>in there and knowing bear activity over that way. So

467
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 3>as his floodlights come on, and from what Ariel said,

468
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 3>she notices this reddish brown kind of fur ball. She

469
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 3>couldn't really make it out right at the bottom of

470
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the deck, and their deck is approximately down there, fifteen

471
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.279
<v Speaker 3>feet off the ground. So she notices this little kind

472
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.359
<v Speaker 3>of like a fur ball moving around just at the

473
00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:31.279
<v Speaker 3>lowest part of the deck where she could see from

474
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.160
<v Speaker 3>her vantage point. So she tells Jeff what is that?

475
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:39.079
<v Speaker 3>So he goes around the counter, goes over. Now, the

476
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.000
<v Speaker 3>way the house is cut out of the bank, there's

477
00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 3>a dirt mound off to that left hand side. When

478
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 3>you're looking out that comes up to where it would

479
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.160
<v Speaker 3>look like a two story building off to their left

480
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 3>hand side. If you're facing that way. So as he's

481
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.519
<v Speaker 3>going over to look out to see what this little brown,

482
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.640
<v Speaker 3>fuzzy ball was going across. All of a sudden he's

483
00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 3>looking at and his wife Ariel shrieks and screams, runs over,

484
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.279
<v Speaker 3>snatches the baby, and runs upstairs, saying it's a monster.

485
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 3>It's a monster. So Jeffy, he's what the helm. He's

486
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.400
<v Speaker 3>looking around trying to see what she saw, and she's

487
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 3>already upstairs. She's already got the gun. She's on the bed.

488
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.359
<v Speaker 3>She's yelling for Jeff, hurry up, get up here. It's

489
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.079
<v Speaker 3>a monster. It's a monster. He's looking out, he can't

490
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.680
<v Speaker 3>see anything, so he just runs up there to see

491
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 3>what the hell right, and she's totally freaked out. She's

492
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:28.119
<v Speaker 3>clutching the baby, she's got the gun across her lap.

493
00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 3>He takes the rifle and he' said what did you see?

494
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.039
<v Speaker 3>And she said, it's standing out there. It blends in

495
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 3>really well by the brush, and she gives specific directions

496
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.799
<v Speaker 3>of where to look. She goes, don't go out there.

497
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 3>It's a monster. It's huge. So Jeff goes back downstairs,

498
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>goes and looks out the window, and sure enough, this

499
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:50.960
<v Speaker 3>thing is squatted down. He said, it's coloring next to

500
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:54.759
<v Speaker 3>the brush made it just almost seamlessly blend in, he said.

501
00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that gave it away was eyeeshine. He said,

502
00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 3>if the eye shine wasn't there, it would have blended

503
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 3>in seamlessly. So he's stuck. He's what the hell am

504
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I really looking at it? Starts swaying back and forth,

505
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:10.880
<v Speaker 3>stands up and walks back down around cuts around the

506
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 3>front of that deck, and he watches it the whole time.

507
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Same little Fuzzy had. When he actually measured to the

508
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 3>base from where the ground was up to where he

509
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>was seeing the head and at the angling stuff, he

510
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:28.480
<v Speaker 3>estimated fourteen feet tall. That's massive, right, So one of

511
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 3>the things he said stuck out was it looked pretty slender,

512
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 3>broad shoulder, but slender, didn't look like a huge hulking.

513
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.319
<v Speaker 3>It was massive, but it wasn't like a bodybuilder hulking.

514
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 3>It was more lean. It was a little more lanky,

515
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.839
<v Speaker 3>looking like a basketball player with more muscle. He said.

516
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 3>He couldn't really make out the face because it was

517
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.759
<v Speaker 3>an ashen gray and the way the light was hitting

518
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>it and everything around it, it was hard to make

519
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:55.880
<v Speaker 3>out detail other than the eye shine because eyeshine had

520
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 3>him fixated on that. The thing walks off. He tries

521
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep deep on it. The door that is off

522
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 3>to the right outside of the kitchen that you can

523
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 3>open it up and go right down the stairs to

524
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 3>the hot tub outside was one of those doors with

525
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:11.279
<v Speaker 3>a window in it, so he was trying to look

526
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 3>through it, but a lot of it was frosted pain

527
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 3>so he couldn't get a clear sight. But he did

528
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 3>watch it through that walk off as he's trying to

529
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 3>figure out what the holy shit. They called the authorities.

530
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>They were told, no one's going to respond to a

531
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>bear call unless it's trying to break in. They totally

532
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>ignored everything. He explained everything to them as I'm explaining

533
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>it to you. They directly told him no one's going

534
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 3>to respond to a bear call unless it's trying to

535
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 3>break in. If it tries to break in, then call back.

536
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 3>So they're immediately dismissive. I don't know the dynamics of it.

537
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't on the phone, but Jeff was very indignant

538
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 3>about how he was treated. He's a professional. He's not

539
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 3>your average deep woods Alaska and he works business related stuff.

540
00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 3>He's not an overly outdoorsy guy. So he felt really

541
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>insulted by the way they treated him, and he's highly educated.

542
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 3>He let it go, warn the wife, Okay, when I'm gone,

543
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 3>we need to have all these things in place security wise,

544
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 3>we don't know what the hell. So later on that

545
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 3>next morning, he goes to the neighbors. His closest neighbor

546
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 3>was down the road, not quite half a mile. He

547
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 3>gets down there and he starts asking the guy, Hey, look,

548
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 3>I know what I saw. My wife knows what she saw.

549
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen anything like this? The guy just

550
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 3>shrugs and goes, I don't know what you're talking about.

551
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 3>And Jeff gets indignant with him, saying, hey, look, this

552
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 3>thing was looking in my house. It was looking at

553
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 3>my wife. My child's in there. I need to know

554
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 3>if you know of anything going on with this with

555
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>donn know what you're talking about. Never seen nothing like it.

556
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Please leave. Jeff leaves. Now everything stays calm for a

557
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>good couple of years. Candice is approximately three or four

558
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 3>years old. The next incident that happens. They're out on

559
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 3>that front balcony, that front deck because there's a double

560
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 3>doorway that opens up out onto that right they were

561
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 3>out there. One evening it was fall again and time

562
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.039
<v Speaker 3>had passed, so everything had calmed down. They weren't hyper sensitive.

563
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>They were vigilant, but they weren't like, oh my god,

564
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.799
<v Speaker 3>there's brush over there, you know what.

565
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 5>Not.

566
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Everything was the sasquatch to them. He had researched, he

567
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 3>had learned about sasquatch, harry Man all this stuff as

568
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 3>far as he could find, because he wasn't real knowledgeable

569
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 3>on it, so he didn't really know where to look.

570
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 3>He figured he picked up enough to know, okay, watch

571
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 3>weird sounds, all that stuff. I'll keep my out whatever. Well,

572
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>they're out there and Candice. They had just redid the

573
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 3>railing system because of code change. It had to be

574
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>less than four inches or whatever, so the little kids

575
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 3>can't get their head stuck in the little banisters. So

576
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 3>that was just redone and they're out there enjoying it.

577
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>It gets on in the dark anytime. They had the

578
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>porch lights on, which are different from the floodlights that

579
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 3>light up when there's movement out on the perimeter. So

580
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>they're all sitting there enjoining the night, and they could

581
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 3>see the star. So they killed the porch lights just

582
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 3>to have complete darkness. You had some of the light

583
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>pollution from anchorage. He said, you could just see the

584
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>stars above you, just beautifully. So they had the light off.

585
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 3>They're just staring up as they're all sitting there, just

586
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 3>toddler holding on to the banisters, looking up, just being

587
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 3>a kid. All of a sudden, the floodlights pop on.

588
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 3>As soon as they do, out of the corner of

589
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 3>his eye, he sees this big brown thing moving coming

590
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>directly towards Candace. So he snatches his daughter, turns his wife,

591
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 3>pushes her into the house and shuts the doors. As

592
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.759
<v Speaker 3>they get inside. Back behind that counter, they started keeping

593
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 3>a pistol on the counter and a rifle near the door.

594
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 3>He got them behind the counter to shield them from

595
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 3>this thing looking at him, because once he got inside

596
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and had the door shut and got behind the counter,

597
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.880
<v Speaker 3>this thing had climbed up onto the deck. He said.

598
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 3>The first set of pane windows before the upper ones

599
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 3>were about ten feet and then there was about two

600
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 3>feet of logs. So basically this thing was looking from

601
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the second set of big pain windows back down at

602
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.759
<v Speaker 3>them in their kitchen. Because again it's cathedral style, it's open,

603
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 3>and these big windows. He was just struck at how

604
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>big it was. I mean seeing it at a distance

605
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>right out the window, squatted down, moving along. Everything wasn't

606
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 3>as vivid as this thing standing there.

607
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to sea. We'll

608
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

609
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 3>He said. He yelled, I'm gonna shoot you. I'm gonna

610
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 3>shoot you. And this thing lowered itself down and looking

611
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 3>down through the lower windows and then stepped back up

612
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the banister over the railing and dropped down to the

613
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.880
<v Speaker 3>ground and moved away. Called the authorities again, told him

614
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 3>there was a bear that attempted to get in their house.

615
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 3>They feel it's dangerous. He had already none to just

616
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 3>tell him it's a bear for serve, responds an APD officer.

617
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Over an hour later. Well over an hour later, he

618
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 3>had called back a few times to try to get

619
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 3>someone to respond. As the officer's there and they're telling them, hey,

620
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>here's what's going on. Need to address this because it

621
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 3>was literally I think he was trying to get my child.

622
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 3>They said, bear's been known to predate on kids. This night,

623
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.519
<v Speaker 3>he goes, it wasn't a bear. He runs into the

624
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>same wall. He goes, I can't put that in a report,

625
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it will go nowhere, So ais he argues with the officer.

626
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>He finally had enough the shit and says, just leave

627
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 3>your worthless just go. Officer leaves being insulted. Jeff feels

628
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 3>insulted by the way the guy was treating him. In

629
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 3>all honesty, Jeff said that the officer really had no

630
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 3>where to take the complaint because no one would listen

631
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 3>to the officer if he laid it out the way

632
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Jeff had explained it. Aerriel at this point is screaming

633
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>at the cop, you're worth wishing this, and Mama Bear

634
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 3>freaking had it. She was going off on the cop.

635
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Cop leaves. Within a half hour of that cop leaving,

636
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 3>they you know, stop down the end of the road

637
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>and sit there for a little bit because there's a

638
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 3>big ninety degree turn at the end of their road.

639
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>The officer sat there, spotlighted around a little bit, maybe

640
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 3>trying to investigate, trying to wrap his head around it.

641
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 3>They don't know for sure, because they never talked to

642
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 3>him again, but it appeared the officer's trying to look

643
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 3>around because that's the direction that the creature left. Now

644
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>half hour after that cop drives off the back of

645
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 3>their house was slammed about four or five times, and

646
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 3>it shook that whole big place. Boem boehm. He jumps up,

647
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>he's had enough. He runs outside with the rifle, old

648
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 3>sks style Chinese ak, goes out the door, the little

649
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>side door that goes down the steps to the hot tub.

650
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 3>But he gets out there looking towards the back of

651
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 3>the house and he sees this dark figure moving away

652
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>in the darkness and starts popping shots at her. Had enough,

653
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 3>screw this boom boom, open season, right. He had one

654
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.119
<v Speaker 3>of those thirty round rocker mags that go in there.

655
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 3>He's putting rounds. This thing starts hauling ass and he's

656
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 3>just trying to spit everything he has at it to

657
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>get it out of there, to get it to stay

658
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>out of there. Things go quiet, nothing, no activity, know nothing,

659
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 3>hyper vigilance for the next couple of years. This was

660
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>approximately almost four years ago before they moved away. A

661
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 3>few more houses have been built up since then, not

662
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that many, just going towards anchorage. From where they're at.

663
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 3>There had been a lot of development on upper hillside,

664
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 3>a lot of houses getting built here, there and everywhere.

665
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Everything was quiet again. However, they never forgot. They tried

666
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 3>to warn everyone the new houses that moved in, haybe aware.

667
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 3>They just give the word quick. Okay, obviously we moved

668
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 3>in next to a weirdo. They didn't take him serious,

669
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 3>which a lot of people they don't. That's fine, you

670
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 3>teach his own Now. Candice is almost ten. At this point,

671
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 3>she was outside with one of her girlfriends, sitting on

672
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>those steps that lead down to the little hot tub

673
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>off to the right of the house. Now, as they're

674
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, it was still daylight. It was towards the

675
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 3>end of July. There was a sharp whistle. It sounded

676
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 3>like it was just right behind him. So immediately both

677
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 3>the girls' bolt right inside boom. Ariel was upstairs. She

678
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 3>heard the whistle too. She came downstairs, locked the door.

679
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 3>She got a hold of Jeff. Jeff immediately left work

680
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 3>comes heading home during that time, because there was a

681
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.199
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a commute the girl that was visiting Candace,

682
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>she lived just about half the distance her dad would

683
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 3>have to travel, but Ariel got a hold of her

684
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 3>parents to come get her. Fun time was over, so

685
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Jeff gets home as Ariel and Candice are standing out

686
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>on that porch. As she was pointing, the whistle came

687
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>from over here in these taller brush. I want you

688
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to cut that brush down. The landlord didn't want the

689
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 3>brush cut down. He owns the place. He trumps all that.

690
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Ariel tells him. If we can't cut that brush back

691
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>for a good hundred yards, we're moving. So Jeff being

692
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.360
<v Speaker 3>the deck, he's got to look out for his family.

693
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, he gives the landlord the ultimate. Hey, look,

694
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 3>let us cut this down so we can feel safe

695
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 3>and have rue to see out without the brushban right

696
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 3>up on the house. He throws in things like fire

697
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 3>danger this and that, and the landlords no, those willows

698
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, they're not enough to be a fire hazard there.

699
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 3>It's more than fifty feet back, so dismisses them. They're

700
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in the process of moving, which takes some time, as

701
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Jeff is facilitating another home in South Anchorage moreover in

702
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 3>the Diamond area, trying to make things happen. Ariel is

703
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>a stay at home mom, so she's there all the time.

704
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Now the school's not in right, so Cannis is home

705
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.800
<v Speaker 3>every day. And Candace, from what she said, the real

706
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>read that she wants to move away from Alaska, and

707
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I totally understand. So when I had all of them

708
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 3>on speakerphone and they asked Candace, what was the the

709
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 3>fighting moment that really made you mentally make this choice

710
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 3>that you don't want to be in Alaska? She said.

711
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>It was two days after the whistle. Jeff was checking

712
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 3>on a house in South Anchorage. It was the middle

713
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>of the day. Her mom were on the front deck.

714
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 3>They had those front bay doors openly. It was warm out.

715
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>They were out there just being mom and daughter, goofing

716
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 3>around whatever they were gonna, you know, potentially play with

717
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 3>the sprinkler or something along those lines. Well, in the

718
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 3>middle of days, they're standing there, their neighbors off to

719
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>the right hand of them. As they're standing on that

720
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>front deck and looking down the road. Their neighbors are

721
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 3>approximately maybe three hundred yards to where they had their

722
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>house built. There was a line of sight and they

723
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 3>could see activity outside of their house. They couldn't tell

724
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>exactly what was going on or here exactly what's going on,

725
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 3>but you'd hear kids giggle and there was activity, no

726
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 3>big deal. All of a sudden, this thing walks out

727
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 3>from behind around the side where the hot tub is

728
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 3>and what caught their attention was the hot tub spun around.

729
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Water gushed everywhere because they rarely used the thing, but

730
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>it was operational. But this spun around came barely into view. Now,

731
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 3>this is a six man hot tub that was full

732
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 3>of water, that's not light, and it was anchored onto

733
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 3>a seamen slab. This thing slung it damn near out

734
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to the front. That caught their attention. It walked out

735
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 3>into view, looked at him, and started coming for the

736
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 3>banister the railing to climb up, and they immediately went inside.

737
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 3>This is when Ariel fired shots, because when they came in,

738
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the door hit and bounced open, and by that point

739
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Aarol was already at the counter. Candis had run upstairs,

740
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>and Mama Bear had the pistol forty four magnum. She

741
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>turned around. The door just swung open. She popped a shot.

742
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>She said, she doesn't know if she hit it, but

743
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 3>it was coming around like it was going to follow

744
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 3>them in, and when she shot that shot, it spooked it.

745
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 3>It jumped off and booked it. All this canos the

746
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>hot tub bushing out, the shot fired. She runs over,

747
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 3>shuts and locks the door, calls Jeff says, what this

748
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 3>thing just flung the fricking hot tub tried to grab Candas.

749
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 3>That was the catalyst of why Candace does not want

750
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>to would no longer be anywhere near woods. It totally

751
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 3>run Jeff and Ario just it kills in because from

752
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>what Jeff and Ariel said, it seemed like it was

753
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 3>focused on Candace since she was little, you know what

754
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean. And I asked Candace, I was like, did

755
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 3>you ever get any weird mind speak or any weird

756
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 3>thusts that we're not of your own or anything like that,

757
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>because I've had reports of such things And she was like, no,

758
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 3>tapping on her window over the years. But she was

759
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 3>so little she didn't realize what was going on. She

760
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 3>just thought, you know, just a stick hitting it, just

761
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, dismissed it. But there was little things going

762
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 3>on all in between these big things that she didn't

763
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 3>always tell her parents about because her mom would really stress.

764
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Ariel would stress really hard when she would say, there

765
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>was tapping out my window last night. Another point of

766
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 3>contention was for years they wanted to install security cameras, right,

767
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 3>so the landlord was like, no, you're not adding anything.

768
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 3>Their floodlights are fine, his heels were dugg and he

769
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 3>didn't want them, even at their own expense, putting in

770
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 3>a security system because you just didn't want that for

771
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 3>whatever reason. They did have internal cameras, and on a

772
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 3>couple of the internal cameras, over time they would catch

773
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>banging on the house when no one was at home,

774
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 3>that type of stuff. You know, nothing they could take

775
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 3>to the authorities and say, hey, take us serious, or

776
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>to the landlord for that matter, but they end up

777
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 3>getting charged to fix that six person hot tub. The

778
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.880
<v Speaker 3>landlord claimed that they tied a chain around it and

779
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 3>jerked it with their vehicle just to make a big

780
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 3>huha over leaving because they had just renewed their lease

781
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and some other stuff. Just legality shit. People get petty.

782
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Not Jeff and Ariel, just the landlord, real pompous kind

783
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 3>of guy. That was the catalyst for them. They're still

784
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>in Anchorage. That's not their real names. Kennis. However, just

785
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 3>a couple of days ago, is down with grandparents visiting

786
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>down in the States. They all get real jumpy this

787
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 3>time of year into the fall, especially earlier fall is

788
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 3>worse and then it kind of tapers. But but they

789
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 3>said it's always been in the fall in that area,

790
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 3>and this always came from the east. That's just something

791
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to mentally keep track of when we start

792
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 3>compiling all this data and trying to figure out if

793
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 3>there's any movement patterns that we can follow or anything

794
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm want to thank them for sharing. It

795
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>took a while to get all the phone calls done

796
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 3>for the last few months since August. Actually, regardless of

797
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 3>what you think Shiel about this topic, things are happening

798
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>to people, whether you accept it or not. But what

799
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 3>outsiders think is irrelevant when it comes to what people experience.

800
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to thank them for sharing. I want to

801
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>thank you guys for joining me and we'll catch you

802
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 3>guys soon.

803
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 4>They say, you don't got to go.

804
00:40:46.400 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 6>But you can't stays.

805
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 5>Step step.

806
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 4>Step, trying this joy, that chart everything? Can you ride back?

807
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:31.920
<v Speaker 4>Riding back? Joy for me? Joy, staying right? You call

808
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 4>it right away.

809
00:41:36.320 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 5>And still still stas sasst.

810
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Not not nottssssssssssst used these things
