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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog?
Speaker 3: My dog.
Speaker 2: We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know
Speaker 2: how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm really confused. All
Speaker 2: I saw was my dog coming over the fence, and
Speaker 2: they would dead once you hit the grill. I didn't
Speaker 2: see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got
Speaker 2: some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you
Speaker 2: see what it was? It was enough out here. Look
Speaker 2: him near the window now, and I don't need anything.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go outside. Its point, you're hello,
Speaker 2: hit somebody out here? What quent on out there? I've
Speaker 2: thought of a bit about sixty ft nine. I don't
Speaker 2: know easy. I'm out there, Yeah, I'm walking right head.
Speaker 3: Oh greetings is Fred Alaska. Thanks for joining me. What
Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you today comes from a
Speaker 3: remote village. Now, this guy only wanted to share because
Speaker 3: he felt it was important. Like a lot of my
Speaker 3: fellow natives, there's a lot of superstition involved around the
Speaker 3: hairy Man and Harryman experiences. There's a level of feared
Speaker 3: that if you speak about him, they'll come around. Bad
Speaker 3: omens can happen, something tragic could happen in the family.
Speaker 3: Not in all cultures, but in quite a few. The
Speaker 3: thing is, it started somewhere, so there's got to be
Speaker 3: grains of truth in it. What happened with him happened
Speaker 3: over the course of jeez since he was little. Now
Speaker 3: at his grandpa's house, they have a smokehouse back behind
Speaker 3: the house. As a kid, some of his earliest memories
Speaker 3: are helping hang the fish to smoke and dry and whatnot.
Speaker 3: At one of these summer camps that he would go
Speaker 3: and help put fish away and help smoke and whatnot.
Speaker 3: He was at the back end on the inside of
Speaker 3: this smokehouse, and he said was fairly large, eight foot wide,
Speaker 3: twelve foot long, a lot of room for racks in
Speaker 3: there because they had a large family. He's in the
Speaker 3: back he's adjusting the fish because somehow one of the
Speaker 3: racks had fallen a little bit and the fish slid down,
Speaker 3: and so he was resetting it up. They had screen
Speaker 3: and they also had boards on the outside that you
Speaker 3: can close it down to hold in the smoke or whatever,
Speaker 3: but they happened to be open, and he was looking
Speaker 3: straight out the back because he kept hearing a weird
Speaker 3: chattering kind of sound, really high pitched, and it was
Speaker 3: different than any squirrely ever heard or anything like that.
Speaker 3: So he looks and notices this kind of a reddish
Speaker 3: brown thing about fifty feet away. It looked small when
Speaker 3: he was looking, because he was just a little kid.
Speaker 3: He thought, oh, someone's dog. He ignored it. All of
Speaker 3: a sudden, he hears a kind of sound, like a
Speaker 3: large exhale, and he turns and looks. Within a foot away,
Speaker 3: there's this thing look at him right in the face.
Speaker 3: He says, he was so freaked out in that moment.
Speaker 3: He just remember seeing the eyes they were black and beady,
Speaker 3: and the hair because it was right there. It was silhouetted,
Speaker 3: but he could see the glean in the eye from
Speaker 3: the daylight. He immediately bolted out of there. It runs in.
Speaker 3: His auntie and his grandma were there, and he's screaming, hey,
Speaker 3: there's something out there. There's something out there, and he
Speaker 3: didn't know what. They said what is it? And he
Speaker 3: just said bear. So they all go out. Thing is gone.
Speaker 3: But what had happened is that screen was pushed in
Speaker 3: and that particular rack he was fixing the fish on
Speaker 3: half of it was missing. So they're like, where's the fish.
Speaker 3: They're looking on the ground. They figure, okay, it was
Speaker 3: a bear. The bear got away. We'll just keep a
Speaker 3: watch and let it go. A few years later, he
Speaker 3: was approximately eleven, he was further outside the village. Now,
Speaker 3: this village is off of the Yukon River. He still
Speaker 3: lives there today. He doesn't want any no to ariety
Speaker 3: or any kind of acknowledgment. Of his shallow villagers. They
Speaker 3: talk about it, but in hush terms, and none of
Speaker 3: them would willingly come on this channel. He just felt
Speaker 3: compelled to share this because he knows there's other people
Speaker 3: going through it. Right. He's about eleven. He's outside the
Speaker 3: village heading west looking for cariblue sign. He's with his
Speaker 3: older uncle and a cousin. And as they're going back
Speaker 3: along this trail, because they're doing it on foot, they
Speaker 3: had wheelered up to a certain point and then they
Speaker 3: couldn't go any further because it was just a real
Speaker 3: narrow path and they weren't going to bushwhack to get
Speaker 3: the wheelers through. So they're on foot and they're approximately
Speaker 3: half mile away from their wheelers. As they break the
Speaker 3: tree line, he said, they noticed or large things brown,
Speaker 3: all moving from right to left in front of them
Speaker 3: really fast, and they were bigger than any bears. But
Speaker 3: they were down on all fours, just going. So they
Speaker 3: stood there and just watched these things because they were
Speaker 3: at a pretty good distance and the critters didn't to
Speaker 3: notice them, so they just conquered down and watch, and
Speaker 3: they just booked it across the flats and hit some
Speaker 3: trees about gosh, quite a bit of ways way. It
Speaker 3: was just over with. They're like, oh okay, So they
Speaker 3: continue on and figured, let's go further and see if
Speaker 3: we could find cariblue signs so we can at least
Speaker 3: bag a nice bowl. As they cut back, they get
Speaker 3: back to the far end of the tundra and this
Speaker 3: is like a huge ring of black spruce around them,
Speaker 3: and it's real swampy in the middle and not so
Speaker 3: swampy at the edges. Right, So they're cutting around the
Speaker 3: edge on the opposite side where they seen these things run.
Speaker 3: And as they get to the area of where these
Speaker 3: things were running through. His older cousin noticed, hey, look
Speaker 3: at this track, because they were very similar to Vincent.
Speaker 3: He sent in some picks of the one track that
Speaker 3: just broke through the tundra of so heavy, so they
Speaker 3: were very similar to that. Now they all stopped. They
Speaker 3: all looked. They were trying to figure out, Oh, that's
Speaker 3: a big bear. They're figuring it was a double footprint.
Speaker 3: No big deal. The bears took off. We're good at
Speaker 3: a distance. They couldn't really make it out of what
Speaker 3: it really was, but they were just going with bear
Speaker 3: because it made sense with what they were reading with
Speaker 3: the track or His uncle was a little bit reserved
Speaker 3: on exactly if it was a bear or not. He
Speaker 3: didn't really say too much to say, mmon, let's go.
Speaker 3: So they continue on and they made it about another mile,
Speaker 3: and walking through tundra it's like walking on a spongy bed.
Speaker 3: It could wear you out. If your cardio ain't up
Speaker 3: and you'd just been blaxed days ago, all year long,
Speaker 3: and then you get up and start walking on tundra,
Speaker 3: it could wear you out pretty quick.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Him being eleven, he was full of energy, but his
Speaker 3: uncle was tired. So they decided to stop. Uncle was
Speaker 3: sitting there, and they break out the snacks. They brought
Speaker 3: some dry fish and some other stuff. As they were
Speaker 3: eating back behind them, they started hearing noises off way
Speaker 3: across at that other tree line where they saw these
Speaker 3: four things run off into. So they're eating their snacks
Speaker 3: and now just every once in a while they hear
Speaker 3: weird noise and they would draw their attention back that way.
Speaker 3: About the fourth or fifth time they heard this noise,
Speaker 3: he said, his uncle stands up real quick, turns and
Speaker 3: is looking in that direction, grabs the binoculars out of
Speaker 3: his pack and looks, and then tells them, come on,
Speaker 3: gather up your stuff, let's go. So instead of going
Speaker 3: back the path they took, which would have been easiest,
Speaker 3: his uncle took them way around. He said, it's probably
Speaker 3: three miles longer to get around as they're circling back
Speaker 3: towards where their wheelers are. Basically, what his uncle had
Speaker 3: did is they were at like a peninsula where the
Speaker 3: trees are right, not a literal peninsula, but the trees
Speaker 3: came out in a little peninsula, and that's where they're
Speaker 3: at the tip, looking out on the tundra. So they
Speaker 3: went around that backside. Instead of cutting back just straight
Speaker 3: on back the way they came, they cut around. So
Speaker 3: there's this peninsula trees that comes out. And as they're
Speaker 3: back on the making their way back through in those trees,
Speaker 3: they start hearing things and they start hearing this cracking,
Speaker 3: and he remembers his uncle said, get in front of me,
Speaker 3: you guys, get moving faster. They were all armed, you know,
Speaker 3: so they thought not of it. Okay, he's a little
Speaker 3: spook because of the bears. Will just keep moving. So
Speaker 3: as they're going along pace to the right, more to
Speaker 3: the right, cut up into the trees. To the right.
Speaker 3: There's that small path following his little game trail. He
Speaker 3: was trying to keep them on task and focus on
Speaker 3: what they were doing. And meanwhile his uncle was constantly
Speaker 3: pausing every once in a while listening looking back in
Speaker 3: that direction that the noise was coming from in the trees.
Speaker 3: As they get about, he said, probably one hundred yards
Speaker 3: into the trees, it got pretty thick because of the
Speaker 3: brush and stuff, low bush, cranberries and some willows and
Speaker 3: stuff along with the black spruce. They can get real dense.
Speaker 3: You guys seen plenty of examples of that. Here. They
Speaker 3: get to a certain point about one hundred yards in.
Speaker 3: His cousin has a cramp in his legs, so he
Speaker 3: asked if they could take a break. The uncle's constantly
Speaker 3: focused in the direction at this noise. Because the noise
Speaker 3: that was going on with cracking noises, like a weird
Speaker 3: stomping sound, just weirdness, high strangeness, stuff they weren't accustomed to,
Speaker 3: was a continuous thing. It wasn't just hit and miss.
Speaker 3: It was on a continuous basis, and it seemed to
Speaker 3: be all just in one spot. It wasn't like moving
Speaker 3: towards him at the moment or anything like that. So
Speaker 3: we said, as his cousin was wretching his calf out
Speaker 3: and stuff because of his cramp and whatnot, because he
Speaker 3: was wearing boots that were too small. He borrowed a
Speaker 3: cousin's knee boots and they were just a little too small,
Speaker 3: so he was pinching his foot and causing his calf
Speaker 3: to cramp. He's got the boot off and he's rubbing
Speaker 3: his calf, and they're talking about those little rubber band planes,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They made a balsam wood
Speaker 3: and they got a little prop in a rubber band.
Speaker 3: You wind them up. They're talking about play with toes
Speaker 3: when they get home. Just kid shit. The uncle all
Speaker 3: of a sudden says, get up, move. Unbeknounced to them.
Speaker 3: The uncle had been watching and this thing was moving
Speaker 3: in a manner that seemed like it was trying to
Speaker 3: outflank them. He said, his uncle didn't give a whole
Speaker 3: lot of detail, but said, get up, get moving, We
Speaker 3: need to go his cousin, who was wearing the wrong
Speaker 3: sized boots. They moved so quickly he just leapt the
Speaker 3: boot there and was walking one footed, basically one boot on. Now,
Speaker 3: Uncle as later, where's the hell's your other boot?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: He said, you told us to move, So he got
Speaker 3: in a little bit of trouble of that later because
Speaker 3: they weren't his boots, they were borrowed. Their pace is
Speaker 3: quick going down this path. And as they're going down
Speaker 3: this path, every once while Gussie was looking over and
Speaker 3: he saw movement in the trees, but it was always
Speaker 3: at the same distance. It didn't seem like it was
Speaker 3: closing in on him. What he didn't know and his
Speaker 3: uncle did know, is this particular little game trail hooks
Speaker 3: back over to the wheelers, and this thing was heading
Speaker 3: towards where the wheelers were. They get a little further
Speaker 3: down this trail and it starts curving to the right,
Speaker 3: right where the curve starts. His uncle has him stop
Speaker 3: and sit down. His uncle went about fifteen feet away,
Speaker 3: was behind a spruce tree, lifting up his rifle scope,
Speaker 3: looking in the direction that he had seen this thing.
Speaker 3: He watched his uncle scope this thing and kind of
Speaker 3: do this number, look back again, and the second time
Speaker 3: he lifted the rifle and looked to the scope. They
Speaker 3: heard the scream, he said. The scream was very low,
Speaker 3: a mixed between like a lion and a bear along
Speaker 3: with a bobcat. It was on multiple octaves with loud
Speaker 3: as shit, he said. And when the scream happened, his
Speaker 3: uncle didn't flinch or anything. His uncle took the safety
Speaker 3: off his rifle was mumbling something. He couldn't make it
Speaker 3: out because of the loud scream. Everything just went hyper
Speaker 3: crazy because they were in fear. His older cousin was
Speaker 3: just a little bit older him. So you're talking eleven
Speaker 3: and maybe thirteen. I'm not very old experienced hunters, So
Speaker 3: they're scared. Uncle standing over there as he's mumbling, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the rifle boom. The uncle fires off
Speaker 3: a shot, racks another round in because it was a
Speaker 3: bolt action tells the boys stand up, get up. So
Speaker 3: they stand up, and he goes, come on, let's go
Speaker 3: start down the trail. They didn't know what happened. They figured, okay,
Speaker 3: uncle just shot something, so they continue on. They're following
Speaker 3: orders at this time. The uncle told them to make
Speaker 3: sure you have your armol ready and keep your guns
Speaker 3: on safety, but make sure you have a round in
Speaker 3: the chamber in case you need it. They figured, okay,
Speaker 3: it must be a bear and we need to be
Speaker 3: ready so they can end up a little bit. Because
Speaker 3: they were young, so they checked their good They're going
Speaker 3: down the trail and they got not quite a mile
Speaker 3: before the four whever, so they got a distance through
Speaker 3: all this shit, and from what he said his uncle,
Speaker 3: he said it because of so long ago, it's hard
Speaker 3: to remember exactly how it seemed like equal increments. They
Speaker 3: would stop. The uncle would look around again, reassassin and
Speaker 3: have them continue. So about the fourth time of doing that,
Speaker 3: he shoots again again. He was lifting up the sculpe,
Speaker 3: looking from behind tree watching this thing. They figure, okay,
Speaker 3: he's just keeping the bear at bay. Make it to
Speaker 3: almost eyesight of the four wheelers. They can see the
Speaker 3: clearing coming up. They know right where the four wheelers are.
Speaker 3: They're almost there, so they get a little laxed because
Speaker 3: they're young and they're tired. The one cousin's got one
Speaker 3: blue lace hobbling along. They're just about to come into
Speaker 3: the clearing when the uncle tells him to get down
Speaker 3: on the ground. So they get down on the ground.
Speaker 3: They're like, what's going on? And the uncle's looking in
Speaker 3: the direction of the clearing and he goes, oh, no, Boom,
Speaker 3: fires are shot racksing up on them. Boom goes to fire
Speaker 3: another one, but he only had four rounds, so he
Speaker 3: had to stop open the bolt, reaching his pocket and
Speaker 3: start loading rounds into his rifle. As he's doing that,
Speaker 3: there's another screen and they hear thrashing and running away.
Speaker 3: They listen for a minute. He's reloaded, he's looking. There's nothing.
Speaker 3: He says, come on, let's go. They get up to
Speaker 3: the four wheelers. None of them were hurt or anything.
Speaker 3: They were turned. It was like something just move the
Speaker 3: back ends of them turned them and actually helped them
Speaker 3: because they were nosed in and when they came back,
Speaker 3: they were all kind of turned to where they wouldn't
Speaker 3: even have to back up. They get his boop, you know.
Speaker 3: So they're all looking around and there's these tracks again.
Speaker 3: As his uncle is keeping cover basically because they can
Speaker 3: still hear noise off in the trees. His uncle said,
Speaker 3: start them up, start mine up. So his cousin starts
Speaker 3: his uncles and they each start theirs. He tells them
Speaker 3: start heading back. Start heading back. Now, I'm right behind you.
Speaker 3: They start wheelering out and they're just about to in
Speaker 3: this little turnaround area. They're just about to hit the
Speaker 3: wheeler trail and they both stop and look back and
Speaker 3: his uncle's got the rifle up again and lets off
Speaker 3: three rounds. Boom, boom, boom. They can't see what he's
Speaker 3: shooting at. Boom, lets off, three jumps on the wheeler,
Speaker 3: puts rifle in the rifle rack and burn. He's go go.
Speaker 3: So they go back to the village.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out see. Right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 3: That night, his uncle is talking to Gustie's dad. He's
Speaker 3: telling him, hey, there's a good child out there, a harryman.
Speaker 3: It followed us. I would shoot at it, not to
Speaker 3: hit it, but to scare it away. But it didn't
Speaker 3: seem scared. I kept the boys moving or whatever. Just
Speaker 3: lays out everything he did. But Gusty was able to
Speaker 3: hear what his uncle was seeing at this point from
Speaker 3: what he said, when they got back by the wheelers,
Speaker 3: and his uncle said, oh no, he saw one of
Speaker 3: them messing with the wheelers and didn't want to get
Speaker 3: stranded and have to fully walk back, and that's when
Speaker 3: he shot it twice. He said, he shot it twice
Speaker 3: and it took off running, so he knew what he
Speaker 3: was looking at. He was looking at sasquatch a harry Man.
Speaker 3: Last way, he told the boys start up the wheelers,
Speaker 3: have him start minding stuff, because he wanted to really
Speaker 3: run this thing off. And according to what his uncle said,
Speaker 3: he shot it again three more times at about one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards because it was standing just on
Speaker 3: the trail they went through earlier that day. It was
Speaker 3: standing just right down the trail. Popped three shots at it.
Speaker 3: He said, he's pretty sure he hit it because subsistence
Speaker 3: hunters they know where they're shooting. When hunting is your
Speaker 3: way of life, it's like a professional race car driver.
Speaker 3: They make it look easy. He tells Gusty's dad what
Speaker 3: happened or whatever. The portion that really sunk in for
Speaker 3: Gusty was the next day his uncle and dad and
Speaker 3: a family friend went back out there, left the kids
Speaker 3: at home right that night. When they got back, they
Speaker 3: all look like they've seen a ghost. According to what
Speaker 3: he heard around the guys talking around the table was
Speaker 3: when they got back out there, uncle was relaying to
Speaker 3: Gusty's dad what happened, and was walking them through, not literally,
Speaker 3: but just say, we're over here. We came out this
Speaker 3: trail when we saw it here, this kind of thing,
Speaker 3: then I shot it down this trail. It just so happened.
Speaker 3: As they were there, they get screamed at from off
Speaker 3: to their left hand side. They're not wallflowers. They had
Speaker 3: their rifles ready and stuff. They're trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the hell, and as they're doing so, there's another
Speaker 3: scream right off to their right, and then one out
Speaker 3: that trail, and then one behind them. So they're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: there's one all around us. Obviously they're upset. According to
Speaker 3: what was said, as they were standing there, they were
Speaker 3: just waiting for one to show itself right. According to
Speaker 3: what the men said around the table, the uncle took
Speaker 3: first shot again because he saw a movement in the trees,
Speaker 3: got his rifle up and squeezed off a shot. Right
Speaker 3: after his shot, they said, the screaming. They could hear
Speaker 3: all four of these beings running around, all at distance,
Speaker 3: but they could hear them clearly running around, and they're
Speaker 3: making this weird gibberish sound. There was clicks and pops,
Speaker 3: There was gibberish. Some of it sounded like you pick,
Speaker 3: but they couldn't make it out. It was this craziness
Speaker 3: all around them. So they just jumped on the wheelers
Speaker 3: and got out of there. The reason they were so
Speaker 3: freaked out is they all had, according to what was
Speaker 3: said at the table, they had all been spoken to
Speaker 3: in their mind telling them they were going to die.
Speaker 3: That's where that whole saga hands there. He has more
Speaker 3: stuff that he just wanted to share. That the other
Speaker 3: stuff he shared privately, and I respect that it won't
Speaker 3: be public. I want to thank him for sharing that experience.
Speaker 3: His big thing was people need to They don't have
Speaker 3: to be scared to go out in the woods, but
Speaker 3: just be aware of what's happening around you. Situational awareness
Speaker 3: is key, especially in Alaska and any hunter. I know
Speaker 3: my buddies, they're always keyed up and on point. The
Speaker 3: thing is, you can't be hyper paranoid, especially with a garden.
Speaker 3: Nothing worse than someone panicked with a firearm. It's a
Speaker 3: bad combination. But if you're level headed and you can
Speaker 3: keep your cooled and all the better. All says, it's
Speaker 3: a village off the Yukon River. I will't divulge anything
Speaker 3: else out of respect for what he requested. He wants
Speaker 3: to tell all his fellow villagers, wherever the village may be,
Speaker 3: just be aware, he said, I'm sure they all already know.
Speaker 3: And we chuckled about that, because what the outside world
Speaker 3: doesn't realize is in the villages. I talk to a
Speaker 3: lot of people. There's little people's story, Harry Man's stories,
Speaker 3: and they're all current. These aren't like ancient tales and
Speaker 3: mythology and folklore, not bullshit. This is what's happening today,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. These are all current events
Speaker 3: that everyone's speaking of. So it's just a different world.
Speaker 3: There's so many places that whitewash things to make it
Speaker 3: more palatable for those who don't understand. I wanted to
Speaker 3: share what you guys comes from Ariel, Jeff and Candace
Speaker 3: Arrow and Jeff or mom and dad. Candace is their daughter. Now.
Speaker 3: They used to live in Rabbit Creek Valley, which is
Speaker 3: south Anchorage over upper hillside, basically south of Bankriage, where
Speaker 3: they happened to live where they were renting from. They're
Speaker 3: only four houses on this road, and they were spread apart.
Speaker 3: Now they're back up into that upper alpine type of area,
Speaker 3: so a lot of scrub brush, very few trees. They
Speaker 3: had this two story kind of a frame style cabin
Speaker 3: they were renting, huge bait windows in the front, gorgeous
Speaker 3: views south facing. When you're in the kitchen area, which
Speaker 3: is the back of the lower level, you have a
Speaker 3: counter over on your left hand side as this wood
Speaker 3: stove that was about six feet from the bay windows
Speaker 3: and everything. The rest of the house was loft style
Speaker 3: above with two bedrooms up there. So the way it
Speaker 3: was explained to me was they'd rented this place for
Speaker 3: a long time, almost a decade. Rail and Jeff were
Speaker 3: just married when they moved there. Candice, the daughter, is
Speaker 3: now fourteen going on fifteen, and so we're going back
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen years. Ariel and Jeff. It just moved in.
Speaker 3: Ariel just found out she's pregnant, so they're excited about
Speaker 3: bringing a child into their marriage and all that happy
Speaker 3: stuff that goes along with it. Within the first month,
Speaker 3: because they moved in midsummer, it's going into fall time,
Speaker 3: they noticed weird howls off in the distance, which would
Speaker 3: be due east to where they were at heard it
Speaker 3: clearly all the time. They asked the neighbors, do you
Speaker 3: hear these howls? And a couple of them, I don't
Speaker 3: know what you're talking about. Another one was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I hear it, just be aware. No one was really
Speaker 3: speaking much about it, which made Jeff angry because we
Speaker 3: live out here together. We need to know if there's
Speaker 3: like a pack of wolves around. We're going to have
Speaker 3: a child soon. We need to know this stuff, right.
Speaker 3: He was a little disheartened at how closed off a
Speaker 3: lot of his neighbors were. It's expensive to live back
Speaker 3: in there. Most of the places back in there pretty high
Speaker 3: end stuff. For the first couple of years, they would
Speaker 3: just mainly in the fall time, early fall to mid fall,
Speaker 3: never in the late fall, but early mid fall, they
Speaker 3: would hear these screams, weird howls off to the east.
Speaker 3: He said. It seemed like every time they heard it,
Speaker 3: they would hear it closer. Now the way this place
Speaker 3: is laid out, The first time things went real wonky
Speaker 3: ears approximately two years in the living there, Cannis was
Speaker 3: just toddler. A year and a half or so. They
Speaker 3: were in the kitchen behind and the little breakfast bar
Speaker 3: thing their baby, Cannae was in one of those little
Speaker 3: bouncy chair things, just off to the side from their view.
Speaker 3: It was just getting dark. They're behind this breakfast bar
Speaker 3: looking out their bay windows. Now, out those bay windows,
Speaker 3: when you're facing looking out, there's a deck that starts
Speaker 3: to the left and wraps around to the right to
Speaker 3: a stairway that goes down, and just off of that
Speaker 3: stairway is the hot tub. Low port over it, not
Speaker 3: covering it, just open hot tub right there on a slab.
Speaker 3: There was also a two car garage beneath them, so
Speaker 3: it was pretty much three story, but two stories shown
Speaker 3: because it's dug into the hillside kind of deal. So
Speaker 3: they're looking out and they're not really paying attention out
Speaker 3: the window. They got floodlights all over the place. So
Speaker 3: anything lose by they've seen bear, moose, fox, you name it, links,
Speaker 3: all that shit, they've seen it all come and go. Well,
Speaker 3: the floodlights turn on, they don't see anything out in
Speaker 3: the driveway because they're rightfully, so they're worried about bears,
Speaker 3: especially that part of town because you got Mchu Creek
Speaker 3: just south of them. You know, there's sam that get
Speaker 3: in there and knowing bear activity over that way. So
Speaker 3: as his floodlights come on, and from what Ariel said,
Speaker 3: she notices this reddish brown kind of fur ball. She
Speaker 3: couldn't really make it out right at the bottom of
Speaker 3: the deck, and their deck is approximately down there, fifteen
Speaker 3: feet off the ground. So she notices this little kind
Speaker 3: of like a fur ball moving around just at the
Speaker 3: lowest part of the deck where she could see from
Speaker 3: her vantage point. So she tells Jeff what is that?
Speaker 3: So he goes around the counter, goes over. Now, the
Speaker 3: way the house is cut out of the bank, there's
Speaker 3: a dirt mound off to that left hand side. When
Speaker 3: you're looking out that comes up to where it would
Speaker 3: look like a two story building off to their left
Speaker 3: hand side. If you're facing that way. So as he's
Speaker 3: going over to look out to see what this little brown,
Speaker 3: fuzzy ball was going across. All of a sudden he's
Speaker 3: looking at and his wife Ariel shrieks and screams, runs over,
Speaker 3: snatches the baby, and runs upstairs, saying it's a monster.
Speaker 3: It's a monster. So Jeffy, he's what the helm. He's
Speaker 3: looking around trying to see what she saw, and she's
Speaker 3: already upstairs. She's already got the gun. She's on the bed.
Speaker 3: She's yelling for Jeff, hurry up, get up here. It's
Speaker 3: a monster. It's a monster. He's looking out, he can't
Speaker 3: see anything, so he just runs up there to see
Speaker 3: what the hell right, and she's totally freaked out. She's
Speaker 3: clutching the baby, she's got the gun across her lap.
Speaker 3: He takes the rifle and he' said what did you see?
Speaker 3: And she said, it's standing out there. It blends in
Speaker 3: really well by the brush, and she gives specific directions
Speaker 3: of where to look. She goes, don't go out there.
Speaker 3: It's a monster. It's huge. So Jeff goes back downstairs,
Speaker 3: goes and looks out the window, and sure enough, this
Speaker 3: thing is squatted down. He said, it's coloring next to
Speaker 3: the brush made it just almost seamlessly blend in, he said.
Speaker 3: The only thing that gave it away was eyeeshine. He said,
Speaker 3: if the eye shine wasn't there, it would have blended
Speaker 3: in seamlessly. So he's stuck. He's what the hell am
Speaker 3: I really looking at it? Starts swaying back and forth,
Speaker 3: stands up and walks back down around cuts around the
Speaker 3: front of that deck, and he watches it the whole time.
Speaker 3: Same little Fuzzy had. When he actually measured to the
Speaker 3: base from where the ground was up to where he
Speaker 3: was seeing the head and at the angling stuff, he
Speaker 3: estimated fourteen feet tall. That's massive, right, So one of
Speaker 3: the things he said stuck out was it looked pretty slender,
Speaker 3: broad shoulder, but slender, didn't look like a huge hulking.
Speaker 3: It was massive, but it wasn't like a bodybuilder hulking.
Speaker 3: It was more lean. It was a little more lanky,
Speaker 3: looking like a basketball player with more muscle. He said.
Speaker 3: He couldn't really make out the face because it was
Speaker 3: an ashen gray and the way the light was hitting
Speaker 3: it and everything around it, it was hard to make
Speaker 3: out detail other than the eye shine because eyeshine had
Speaker 3: him fixated on that. The thing walks off. He tries
Speaker 3: to keep deep on it. The door that is off
Speaker 3: to the right outside of the kitchen that you can
Speaker 3: open it up and go right down the stairs to
Speaker 3: the hot tub outside was one of those doors with
Speaker 3: a window in it, so he was trying to look
Speaker 3: through it, but a lot of it was frosted pain
Speaker 3: so he couldn't get a clear sight. But he did
Speaker 3: watch it through that walk off as he's trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the holy shit. They called the authorities.
Speaker 3: They were told, no one's going to respond to a
Speaker 3: bear call unless it's trying to break in. They totally
Speaker 3: ignored everything. He explained everything to them as I'm explaining
Speaker 3: it to you. They directly told him no one's going
Speaker 3: to respond to a bear call unless it's trying to
Speaker 3: break in. If it tries to break in, then call back.
Speaker 3: So they're immediately dismissive. I don't know the dynamics of it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't on the phone, but Jeff was very indignant
Speaker 3: about how he was treated. He's a professional. He's not
Speaker 3: your average deep woods Alaska and he works business related stuff.
Speaker 3: He's not an overly outdoorsy guy. So he felt really
Speaker 3: insulted by the way they treated him, and he's highly educated.
Speaker 3: He let it go, warn the wife, Okay, when I'm gone,
Speaker 3: we need to have all these things in place security wise,
Speaker 3: we don't know what the hell. So later on that
Speaker 3: next morning, he goes to the neighbors. His closest neighbor
Speaker 3: was down the road, not quite half a mile. He
Speaker 3: gets down there and he starts asking the guy, Hey, look,
Speaker 3: I know what I saw. My wife knows what she saw.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything like this? The guy just
Speaker 3: shrugs and goes, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: And Jeff gets indignant with him, saying, hey, look, this
Speaker 3: thing was looking in my house. It was looking at
Speaker 3: my wife. My child's in there. I need to know
Speaker 3: if you know of anything going on with this with
Speaker 3: donn know what you're talking about. Never seen nothing like it.
Speaker 3: Please leave. Jeff leaves. Now everything stays calm for a
Speaker 3: good couple of years. Candice is approximately three or four
Speaker 3: years old. The next incident that happens. They're out on
Speaker 3: that front balcony, that front deck because there's a double
Speaker 3: doorway that opens up out onto that right they were
Speaker 3: out there. One evening it was fall again and time
Speaker 3: had passed, so everything had calmed down. They weren't hyper sensitive.
Speaker 3: They were vigilant, but they weren't like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: there's brush over there, you know what.
Speaker 5: Not.
Speaker 3: Everything was the sasquatch to them. He had researched, he
Speaker 3: had learned about sasquatch, harry Man all this stuff as
Speaker 3: far as he could find, because he wasn't real knowledgeable
Speaker 3: on it, so he didn't really know where to look.
Speaker 3: He figured he picked up enough to know, okay, watch
Speaker 3: weird sounds, all that stuff. I'll keep my out whatever. Well,
Speaker 3: they're out there and Candice. They had just redid the
Speaker 3: railing system because of code change. It had to be
Speaker 3: less than four inches or whatever, so the little kids
Speaker 3: can't get their head stuck in the little banisters. So
Speaker 3: that was just redone and they're out there enjoying it.
Speaker 3: It gets on in the dark anytime. They had the
Speaker 3: porch lights on, which are different from the floodlights that
Speaker 3: light up when there's movement out on the perimeter. So
Speaker 3: they're all sitting there enjoining the night, and they could
Speaker 3: see the star. So they killed the porch lights just
Speaker 3: to have complete darkness. You had some of the light
Speaker 3: pollution from anchorage. He said, you could just see the
Speaker 3: stars above you, just beautifully. So they had the light off.
Speaker 3: They're just staring up as they're all sitting there, just
Speaker 3: toddler holding on to the banisters, looking up, just being
Speaker 3: a kid. All of a sudden, the floodlights pop on.
Speaker 3: As soon as they do, out of the corner of
Speaker 3: his eye, he sees this big brown thing moving coming
Speaker 3: directly towards Candace. So he snatches his daughter, turns his wife,
Speaker 3: pushes her into the house and shuts the doors. As
Speaker 3: they get inside. Back behind that counter, they started keeping
Speaker 3: a pistol on the counter and a rifle near the door.
Speaker 3: He got them behind the counter to shield them from
Speaker 3: this thing looking at him, because once he got inside
Speaker 3: and had the door shut and got behind the counter,
Speaker 3: this thing had climbed up onto the deck. He said.
Speaker 3: The first set of pane windows before the upper ones
Speaker 3: were about ten feet and then there was about two
Speaker 3: feet of logs. So basically this thing was looking from
Speaker 3: the second set of big pain windows back down at
Speaker 3: them in their kitchen. Because again it's cathedral style, it's open,
Speaker 3: and these big windows. He was just struck at how
Speaker 3: big it was. I mean seeing it at a distance
Speaker 3: right out the window, squatted down, moving along. Everything wasn't
Speaker 3: as vivid as this thing standing there.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to sea. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He said. He yelled, I'm gonna shoot you. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: shoot you. And this thing lowered itself down and looking
Speaker 3: down through the lower windows and then stepped back up
Speaker 3: the banister over the railing and dropped down to the
Speaker 3: ground and moved away. Called the authorities again, told him
Speaker 3: there was a bear that attempted to get in their house.
Speaker 3: They feel it's dangerous. He had already none to just
Speaker 3: tell him it's a bear for serve, responds an APD officer.
Speaker 3: Over an hour later. Well over an hour later, he
Speaker 3: had called back a few times to try to get
Speaker 3: someone to respond. As the officer's there and they're telling them, hey,
Speaker 3: here's what's going on. Need to address this because it
Speaker 3: was literally I think he was trying to get my child.
Speaker 3: They said, bear's been known to predate on kids. This night,
Speaker 3: he goes, it wasn't a bear. He runs into the
Speaker 3: same wall. He goes, I can't put that in a report,
Speaker 3: it will go nowhere, So ais he argues with the officer.
Speaker 3: He finally had enough the shit and says, just leave
Speaker 3: your worthless just go. Officer leaves being insulted. Jeff feels
Speaker 3: insulted by the way the guy was treating him. In
Speaker 3: all honesty, Jeff said that the officer really had no
Speaker 3: where to take the complaint because no one would listen
Speaker 3: to the officer if he laid it out the way
Speaker 3: Jeff had explained it. Aerriel at this point is screaming
Speaker 3: at the cop, you're worth wishing this, and Mama Bear
Speaker 3: freaking had it. She was going off on the cop.
Speaker 3: Cop leaves. Within a half hour of that cop leaving,
Speaker 3: they you know, stop down the end of the road
Speaker 3: and sit there for a little bit because there's a
Speaker 3: big ninety degree turn at the end of their road.
Speaker 3: The officer sat there, spotlighted around a little bit, maybe
Speaker 3: trying to investigate, trying to wrap his head around it.
Speaker 3: They don't know for sure, because they never talked to
Speaker 3: him again, but it appeared the officer's trying to look
Speaker 3: around because that's the direction that the creature left. Now
Speaker 3: half hour after that cop drives off the back of
Speaker 3: their house was slammed about four or five times, and
Speaker 3: it shook that whole big place. Boem boehm. He jumps up,
Speaker 3: he's had enough. He runs outside with the rifle, old
Speaker 3: sks style Chinese ak, goes out the door, the little
Speaker 3: side door that goes down the steps to the hot tub.
Speaker 3: But he gets out there looking towards the back of
Speaker 3: the house and he sees this dark figure moving away
Speaker 3: in the darkness and starts popping shots at her. Had enough,
Speaker 3: screw this boom boom, open season, right. He had one
Speaker 3: of those thirty round rocker mags that go in there.
Speaker 3: He's putting rounds. This thing starts hauling ass and he's
Speaker 3: just trying to spit everything he has at it to
Speaker 3: get it out of there, to get it to stay
Speaker 3: out of there. Things go quiet, nothing, no activity, know nothing,
Speaker 3: hyper vigilance for the next couple of years. This was
Speaker 3: approximately almost four years ago before they moved away. A
Speaker 3: few more houses have been built up since then, not
Speaker 3: that many, just going towards anchorage. From where they're at.
Speaker 3: There had been a lot of development on upper hillside,
Speaker 3: a lot of houses getting built here, there and everywhere.
Speaker 3: Everything was quiet again. However, they never forgot. They tried
Speaker 3: to warn everyone the new houses that moved in, haybe aware.
Speaker 3: They just give the word quick. Okay, obviously we moved
Speaker 3: in next to a weirdo. They didn't take him serious,
Speaker 3: which a lot of people they don't. That's fine, you
Speaker 3: teach his own Now. Candice is almost ten. At this point,
Speaker 3: she was outside with one of her girlfriends, sitting on
Speaker 3: those steps that lead down to the little hot tub
Speaker 3: off to the right of the house. Now, as they're
Speaker 3: sitting there, it was still daylight. It was towards the
Speaker 3: end of July. There was a sharp whistle. It sounded
Speaker 3: like it was just right behind him. So immediately both
Speaker 3: the girls' bolt right inside boom. Ariel was upstairs. She
Speaker 3: heard the whistle too. She came downstairs, locked the door.
Speaker 3: She got a hold of Jeff. Jeff immediately left work
Speaker 3: comes heading home during that time, because there was a
Speaker 3: little bit of a commute the girl that was visiting Candace,
Speaker 3: she lived just about half the distance her dad would
Speaker 3: have to travel, but Ariel got a hold of her
Speaker 3: parents to come get her. Fun time was over, so
Speaker 3: Jeff gets home as Ariel and Candice are standing out
Speaker 3: on that porch. As she was pointing, the whistle came
Speaker 3: from over here in these taller brush. I want you
Speaker 3: to cut that brush down. The landlord didn't want the
Speaker 3: brush cut down. He owns the place. He trumps all that.
Speaker 3: Ariel tells him. If we can't cut that brush back
Speaker 3: for a good hundred yards, we're moving. So Jeff being
Speaker 3: the deck, he's got to look out for his family.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, he gives the landlord the ultimate. Hey, look,
Speaker 3: let us cut this down so we can feel safe
Speaker 3: and have rue to see out without the brushban right
Speaker 3: up on the house. He throws in things like fire
Speaker 3: danger this and that, and the landlords no, those willows
Speaker 3: and stuff, they're not enough to be a fire hazard there.
Speaker 3: It's more than fifty feet back, so dismisses them. They're
Speaker 3: in the process of moving, which takes some time, as
Speaker 3: Jeff is facilitating another home in South Anchorage moreover in
Speaker 3: the Diamond area, trying to make things happen. Ariel is
Speaker 3: a stay at home mom, so she's there all the time.
Speaker 3: Now the school's not in right, so Cannis is home
Speaker 3: every day. And Candace, from what she said, the real
Speaker 3: read that she wants to move away from Alaska, and
Speaker 3: I totally understand. So when I had all of them
Speaker 3: on speakerphone and they asked Candace, what was the the
Speaker 3: fighting moment that really made you mentally make this choice
Speaker 3: that you don't want to be in Alaska? She said.
Speaker 3: It was two days after the whistle. Jeff was checking
Speaker 3: on a house in South Anchorage. It was the middle
Speaker 3: of the day. Her mom were on the front deck.
Speaker 3: They had those front bay doors openly. It was warm out.
Speaker 3: They were out there just being mom and daughter, goofing
Speaker 3: around whatever they were gonna, you know, potentially play with
Speaker 3: the sprinkler or something along those lines. Well, in the
Speaker 3: middle of days, they're standing there, their neighbors off to
Speaker 3: the right hand of them. As they're standing on that
Speaker 3: front deck and looking down the road. Their neighbors are
Speaker 3: approximately maybe three hundred yards to where they had their
Speaker 3: house built. There was a line of sight and they
Speaker 3: could see activity outside of their house. They couldn't tell
Speaker 3: exactly what was going on or here exactly what's going on,
Speaker 3: but you'd hear kids giggle and there was activity, no
Speaker 3: big deal. All of a sudden, this thing walks out
Speaker 3: from behind around the side where the hot tub is
Speaker 3: and what caught their attention was the hot tub spun around.
Speaker 3: Water gushed everywhere because they rarely used the thing, but
Speaker 3: it was operational. But this spun around came barely into view. Now,
Speaker 3: this is a six man hot tub that was full
Speaker 3: of water, that's not light, and it was anchored onto
Speaker 3: a seamen slab. This thing slung it damn near out
Speaker 3: to the front. That caught their attention. It walked out
Speaker 3: into view, looked at him, and started coming for the
Speaker 3: banister the railing to climb up, and they immediately went inside.
Speaker 3: This is when Ariel fired shots, because when they came in,
Speaker 3: the door hit and bounced open, and by that point
Speaker 3: Aarol was already at the counter. Candis had run upstairs,
Speaker 3: and Mama Bear had the pistol forty four magnum. She
Speaker 3: turned around. The door just swung open. She popped a shot.
Speaker 3: She said, she doesn't know if she hit it, but
Speaker 3: it was coming around like it was going to follow
Speaker 3: them in, and when she shot that shot, it spooked it.
Speaker 3: It jumped off and booked it. All this canos the
Speaker 3: hot tub bushing out, the shot fired. She runs over,
Speaker 3: shuts and locks the door, calls Jeff says, what this
Speaker 3: thing just flung the fricking hot tub tried to grab Candas.
Speaker 3: That was the catalyst of why Candace does not want
Speaker 3: to would no longer be anywhere near woods. It totally
Speaker 3: run Jeff and Ario just it kills in because from
Speaker 3: what Jeff and Ariel said, it seemed like it was
Speaker 3: focused on Candace since she was little, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And I asked Candace, I was like, did
Speaker 3: you ever get any weird mind speak or any weird
Speaker 3: thusts that we're not of your own or anything like that,
Speaker 3: because I've had reports of such things And she was like, no,
Speaker 3: tapping on her window over the years. But she was
Speaker 3: so little she didn't realize what was going on. She
Speaker 3: just thought, you know, just a stick hitting it, just
Speaker 3: you know, dismissed it. But there was little things going
Speaker 3: on all in between these big things that she didn't
Speaker 3: always tell her parents about because her mom would really stress.
Speaker 3: Ariel would stress really hard when she would say, there
Speaker 3: was tapping out my window last night. Another point of
Speaker 3: contention was for years they wanted to install security cameras, right,
Speaker 3: so the landlord was like, no, you're not adding anything.
Speaker 3: Their floodlights are fine, his heels were dugg and he
Speaker 3: didn't want them, even at their own expense, putting in
Speaker 3: a security system because you just didn't want that for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. They did have internal cameras, and on a
Speaker 3: couple of the internal cameras, over time they would catch
Speaker 3: banging on the house when no one was at home,
Speaker 3: that type of stuff. You know, nothing they could take
Speaker 3: to the authorities and say, hey, take us serious, or
Speaker 3: to the landlord for that matter, but they end up
Speaker 3: getting charged to fix that six person hot tub. The
Speaker 3: landlord claimed that they tied a chain around it and
Speaker 3: jerked it with their vehicle just to make a big
Speaker 3: huha over leaving because they had just renewed their lease
Speaker 3: and some other stuff. Just legality shit. People get petty.
Speaker 3: Not Jeff and Ariel, just the landlord, real pompous kind
Speaker 3: of guy. That was the catalyst for them. They're still
Speaker 3: in Anchorage. That's not their real names. Kennis. However, just
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, is down with grandparents visiting
Speaker 3: down in the States. They all get real jumpy this
Speaker 3: time of year into the fall, especially earlier fall is
Speaker 3: worse and then it kind of tapers. But but they
Speaker 3: said it's always been in the fall in that area,
Speaker 3: and this always came from the east. That's just something
Speaker 3: I'm going to mentally keep track of when we start
Speaker 3: compiling all this data and trying to figure out if
Speaker 3: there's any movement patterns that we can follow or anything
Speaker 3: like that. I'm want to thank them for sharing. It
Speaker 3: took a while to get all the phone calls done
Speaker 3: for the last few months since August. Actually, regardless of
Speaker 3: what you think Shiel about this topic, things are happening
Speaker 3: to people, whether you accept it or not. But what
Speaker 3: outsiders think is irrelevant when it comes to what people experience.
Speaker 3: I'm going to thank them for sharing. I want to
Speaker 3: thank you guys for joining me and we'll catch you
Speaker 3: guys soon.
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Speaker 4: Riding back? Joy for me? Joy, staying right? You call
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