WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.799 Good morning, Kentucky, and it is five oh five here 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.679 on a wet Tuesday morning as we come to you 3 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:09.839 live from our beautiful studios here at four Street, Live again, Kentucky, 4 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:11.679 and it's Morning News with Nick Coffee. We've got the 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.800 full crew in the house today, Scott Fitzgerald alongside John 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:18.640 Alden and of course John Shannon. And the rain for me, 7 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.600 it hit right around I guess I was probably just 8 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:24.760 past U of L heading on sixty five North and 9 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.480 it felt like for the last I don't know, twenty 10 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:30.320 four hours plus that it was just waiting to rain, 11 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:33.399 and it has. It is unloaded, and we have downpours 12 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:35.840 here in downtown Louisville. So be prepared if you are 13 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.439 getting your day started. It doesn't look like that rain's 14 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:41.200 gonna let up anytime soon now. As far as just 15 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.520 how hard it's raining right now, I don't hear it 16 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:45.520 because I've got headphones on, but we could hear it 17 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.359 in studio just how heavy the other rain is. We're 18 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:52.240 looking here at WLKY, their four thirty news cast on 19 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.200 our screen behind us, and there's some coverage in Newlu 20 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.799 as the mayor set to discuss the takeovers that have 21 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.799 taken place in Nulu herecently, but one of their reporters 22 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.439 out there look looks like he's got something covering him 23 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.000 because he's not getting drenched. But behind him, I mean 24 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:09.439 you could almost barely see anything because of how hard 25 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:09.959 it was raining. 26 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.480 Absolutely, and I could. 27 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.439 I came in before the rain hit, but I could 28 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.480 smell it in the air. 29 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:16.400 Is that you? Is that you letting everybody know you 30 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:17.239 got here before us? 31 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:17.920 Yeah? 32 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.359 Yeah, no, it's just what it was one of those 33 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:20.840 It's weird. 34 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:22.879 It's one of those mornings where you get up, you know, 35 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.599 and you're awake, and you go, Okay, I got about 36 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:27.159 a half hour before I need to get up, so 37 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.640 if I go back to bed, I'm probably gonna wake 38 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:30.319 up more tired. 39 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.120 That's become my morning every morning. 40 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:32.400 Yeah. 41 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:35.200 As far as just I guess I'm now getting used 42 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.560 to being up this early to where my instincts aren't 43 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:40.680 to just roll over and go back to sleep. It's well, 44 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.599 I'm awake. Yeah, so yeah, I've been there. In fact, 45 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:45.680 you did beat me here today, which you often do. 46 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:48.560 I think I may be able to claim that I'm 47 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:50.519 more awake than you, and I'll tell you why. M 48 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:56.079 hot water heater didn't work. Oh no, cold shower? Cold shower? Yeah, 49 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.200 Oh dude, that's it. Did it work last night? 50 00:01:59.400 --> 00:01:59.480 Is? 51 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.319 It's like so so I'm not I'm not super worried, 52 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:04.439 not because like I would know how to fix it. 53 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:08.159 And maybe I'm just maybe maybe I'm too optimistic here 54 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.360 about the situation. But we had a breaker that went 55 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:15.719 out and the one outlet in our unfinished area of 56 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:18.759 the basement just didn't work, and there's something there that 57 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.360 that powers it, and that we ended up unplugging it 58 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.520 and realizing that that breaker was just bad and we're 59 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.039 gonna have to have somebody come look at that. But 60 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.879 we just ran an extension cord and plugged it in 61 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.479 elsewhere and it worked fine. But it powered on and 62 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.840 I just left it alone. Well, this morning, water wasn't 63 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:39.840 eating up, so I'd go down there and it's on. 64 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:43.120 But there was like this reset error button that it 65 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.319 didn't get me. Even if it gave me some kind 66 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.280 of an error code, I wouldn't know what it means. 67 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.439 But I just hit reset and it looked as if 68 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.000 it reset itself. It started making a noise as if 69 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.520 it was doing something that it wasn't doing prior so 70 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:56.879 I'll find out if the hot water is working when 71 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.280 my wife wakes up in about two hours and she 72 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.199 starts her day, because it'll be something I'm made aware 73 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:03.800 of if she can't get a shower to get the 74 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.520 day going. But and it wasn't like it was cold water. 75 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.520 But any water that's like not warm for a shower, 76 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.000 I mean it's you know, unless you're outside in the 77 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.280 heat in a pool, it's different. So but man, it 78 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:16.879 to wake you up. 79 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.360 Hey, Well, And that's the great thing about this shift, too, Nick, 80 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.560 is that we've got some great listeners that listen. So 81 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.680 somewhere there's out there there's there's a plumber or hot 82 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.919 water repair guy who's listening, or a lady who's listening 83 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.439 and says, I can help Nick with this. So we 84 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.479 either hit that talk back button, I don't shoot you 85 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:30.879 an email. 86 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.400 I'm sure there's people listening that could help me in 87 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.759 a variety of Well, well, I know what, I'm a 88 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:35.439 helpless man. 89 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.719 I've fixed a lot of stuff when folks have called 90 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.840 me and said, hey, Scott tried this. And but for you, 91 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.680 there's no worse feeling than either one waking up with 92 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:48.199 no hot water or waking up realizing in the summer 93 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.719 your ac is quit or in winter your heater is quit. 94 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:54.479 I thought about not showering just because I got a 95 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.240 shower yesterday after the gym, and I didn't do much 96 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:02.199 after that. But I don't know, even if it was 97 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.000 warm water, a shower wakes me up, you know what 98 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.560 I mean. So yeah, it wasn't enjoyable for the two 99 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.280 and a half minutes roughly that I was in there, 100 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.599 but it definitely got me going. And I get what 101 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.120 people who are all about the ice bath. If you can, 102 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.680 if you can tough it out, I get it. 103 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.639 No, no, no, I'm not doing the ice bath. 104 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.079 I've seen those on TikTok and I'm not. 105 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:22.879 There's no way, bro. 106 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.079 Yeah wait, I hope you get it. I wouldn't be 107 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.519 able to do it. Yeah. Again, we'll know this phone 108 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.120 will be ringing if in fact it's not working, we'll 109 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.360 find out soon enough. All Right, we've got a lot 110 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.720 to get into this morning. We now know who the 111 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.120 shooter was in Idaho, and we'll talk about what we 112 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.360 know at this point. Roy o'nil's gonna join us around 113 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:48.199 five forty five. Also, we have I think more damaging 114 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.920 testimony for Brooks Howk and Joseph Lawson as the Krystal 115 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.319 Rogers trial continues. Also maybe the closest thing we've seen 116 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.680 or at least heard about, as far as real DNA evidence. 117 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.160 We'll get into that and a lot more. It is 118 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.800 Kentucky and it's Morning News. Your first update of traffick 119 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.480 and weather with us coming up right here, right now, 120 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.959 five fifteen here, Kentucky, and it's Morning News News Radio 121 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.680 eight forty Whas nit Coffee with you. You can be 122 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.800 with us wherever you go. Listen live at whas dot 123 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.560 com or listen live on the iHeartRadio app, and feel 124 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.079 free to interact with us there. You can chime in 125 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.199 just using that talkback feature click that microphone button and 126 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.279 you can share whatever you want and we'll have it 127 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.720 right here, and who knows, maybe it ends up on 128 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.519 the airwaves here. It's been fun using that feature and 129 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.480 still relatively new. Therefore, you're going to continue to hear 130 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:36.879 me remind folks of it. But anyways, this morning, I 131 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.519 believe at ten o'clock, May Greenberg is set to talk 132 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.040 to hold a press conference of some sort to discuss 133 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:48.480 the recent New lou takeovers that are going on over 134 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.800 the weekend, and I think it's now three straight weekends, 135 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:56.360 maybe two, that you've had the New lou area with 136 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:00.680 large crowds blocking streets, even hotel entrances, of course, has 137 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.360 prompted police to intervene. And I don't think there were 138 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.279 any arrest of the weekend. I did read that someone 139 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:07.759 ended up in handcuffs, but I guess they were not arrested. 140 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.079 And it was last week. I believe we had the 141 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.680 second consecutive week of an attempted street takeover. I believe 142 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.759 one was near River Road. I don't remember where the 143 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.759 other one was. So we had the issue in the Highlands, 144 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:23.560 which of course became a big enough issue to where 145 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.680 there was a real emphasis that hey, you know, we're 146 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.600 gonna we're gonna have more presence there not only to 147 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.040 hold those accountable who are breaking the law, but also 148 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.439 to prevent it, to get to prevent it from getting 149 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.720 to a point where it was it was really tough 150 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.519 to control even if you had a lot of police presence, 151 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:44.319 And I think the emphasis there was good meaning it 152 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:48.680 seemed to work. But now even if there were no 153 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.920 arrests over the weekend, which of course I guess that's 154 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.680 a good thing. When you hear Greenberg is going to 155 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.759 be addressing this, that tells me that what they're having 156 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.720 to do, even though it's not turned into maybe it 157 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.399 being quite as chaotic as it was at times in 158 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.160 the Highlands, and I don't know that for certain, I 159 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:10.519 wasn't there, But nonetheless, it's just not sustainable for law 160 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.759 enforcement to just have to I mean, again, it's their job. 161 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.079 It's what they have to do, and if you decide 162 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.600 to break the law, they're going to have to hold 163 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.240 you accountable. But it just can't be a sustainable thing 164 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.680 here in the city to where the resources of law 165 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.160 enforcement are just on alert, probably with a lot of 166 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.600 a lot of resources being used to just know that 167 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.879 there's a group of individuals or maybe multiple groups of 168 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:37.920 individuals that are just planning to take over streets somewhere 169 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.439 in Louisville, and even if they know that, the cops 170 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.519 are prepared to show up and intervene and keep it 171 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.480 from getting into what those individuals want to turn it into. 172 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.879 It just you know, again, it's law enforcement's job to 173 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.160 be prepared for people doing things they're not supposed to do, 174 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.439 hold them accountable and whatnot. But it can't be an 175 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.879 every weekend thing, and again and how you control that, 176 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:02.839 how you keep it from happening, what needs to be 177 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.439 done to prevent it to get to that point? I 178 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.600 don't have those answers. If I did, I probably wouldn't 179 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.720 be sitting here as a loudmouth on the radio. But 180 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:14.959 clearly it's become a thing to where there are at 181 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.000 least and I don't I mean, who knows if it's 182 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.759 a different group of people every I don't know, but 183 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.839 it does seem as if the city of Louisville has 184 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:27.600 at least every weekend one either potential chaotic area where 185 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.319 a group of folks are attempting to shut down the 186 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.679 street and do whatever. I don't know what, and by way, 187 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:34.720 what is when they shut down the street and they 188 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.279 are they race? I'm not one that would really know 189 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:40.360 what would take place, like when you take over a 190 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:44.799 street with I guess, vehicles and just a bunch of people, 191 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.919 masses of people hanging out like what do you do? 192 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.600 I mean, and even if you're just you know, just 193 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.240 standing out there doing nothing like you still can't be 194 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.679 in the wag. And what I read yesterday from our 195 00:08:55.720 --> 00:09:00.480 partners over at WKHY was that the recent large crowds. 196 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.279 I mean they were blocking streets and hotel entrances and 197 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.000 businesses were having to shut down because they couldn't operate 198 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.080 because it was just too chaotic. So again I don't 199 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.080 I don't have the answer certainly, and I'm not sure 200 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:15.399 anybody does. But my guess is that the consecutive weekends 201 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.519 of sniffing it out before it gets to the point 202 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.919 of where it is out of control. Although that was 203 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.039 again that's that's what you that's what you hope for, 204 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.000 But I just don't think this appears to be sustainable. 205 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.879 But we'll hear from Mary Greenberg a little bit later 206 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.080 on today. All right, we've got a sports update coming 207 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.000 your way. Also another check on traffic and weather, and 208 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.279 make sure you pay attention to the traffic updates from 209 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.759 Bobby Ellis today because we've got some real wet roads 210 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.200 to get the day. Started a real downpour on my 211 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:47.559 way in about about an hour ago, So be safe everybody. Also, Roriyo, 212 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:49.000 and you're going to join us coming up at five 213 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.720 forty five, we'll get the latest on the Idaho shooter. 214 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.200 We now know the identity of the twenty year old 215 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:59.320 man who apparently wanted to be a forest firefighter. Don't 216 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.440 go anywhere. Stick well us right here it's Kinsuckyana's Morning 217 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:03.879 News with Nick Coffee and the crew on news Radio 218 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:08.919 eight forty whas. Thank you, John Shannon. That's right. It 219 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:10.960 is another fresh batch year of Kasucky. In is Morning 220 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.480 News with myself, Nick Coffee here on news Radio eight 221 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:19.200 forty whas John all on alongside. So the second week 222 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:23.600 of the Crystal Rogers trial continued, which it's the Crystal 223 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.519 Rodgers murder trial. I keep just referencing as if she's 224 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.639 on trial. She's not. She's missing and presumed dead, and 225 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.440 the prosecution is charging her former boyfriend Brooks Houck and 226 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:40.720 an accomplice, Steve Lawson with murder charges. Here and again, 227 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:45.279 all the evidence that has been presented, the testimony, the 228 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.480 just the inconsistencies at times and stories that to me 229 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:54.679 just seems rather obvious as far as well. Yeah, I 230 00:10:54.720 --> 00:11:00.279 mean clearly these people that are charged, not only how 231 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:05.679 but Lawson that's currently a co who's also a co defendant, 232 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.000 but also the other Losson who's already pleaded guilty to 233 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:11.360 lesser charges. I mean, it just seems rather obvious. But 234 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.120 what I keep having around myself is that if you're 235 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:18.320 somebody that's a part of this jury, you have to 236 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.320 think to yourself, Okay, yeah that seems likely, something seems suspicious, 237 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.080 something's not adding up. But do you feel as if 238 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.080 there's enough proof to know without any doubt that these 239 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.240 people are guilty of what prosecution is charging them with. 240 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:38.799 So the public opinion is, I think pretty obvious. I've 241 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.799 yet to see anyone not that there's not people out 242 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.720 there doing it, but I haven't seen a single person 243 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:50.039 advocate for those being charged here as if they're innocent 244 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.519 of what they've done. And again that doesn't mean that 245 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.159 it's not happening, but the coverage and again just the 246 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:02.759 obvious shady stuff that's going on even since she disappeared, 247 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.120 Like if you remember, there were people associated with the 248 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.120 Hawk family that were removing signs that were set up 249 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.440 in Barchetown that just were signs of hate. She's missing. 250 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.399 We want to I mean it just clearly these people 251 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.480 look guilty. However, does the jury think that despite looking guilty, 252 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:23.240 they've been convinced that they have enough proof to say, yes, 253 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:27.480 this is we're going to find them guilty. And as 254 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.600 somebody who does consider myself a nerd for true crime stuff. 255 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.840 I've never really put myself. I've tried to. I've never 256 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.320 tried to put myself in the shoes of a jury member, 257 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.679 sort of like I am here. I mean, I have 258 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:40.360 a feeling that if I was on the jury, I 259 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.960 know which way I would lean, But I don't know. 260 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.039 Maybe if I was there and I heard everything throughout, 261 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.320 every little detail, maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I wouldn't say, yeah, 262 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:55.600 they're guilty. I'm supporting finding these individuals guilty. And there's 263 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.960 no technology allowed at all, So those that are covering this, 264 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.000 they're going old school. They're literally just right everything down, 265 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.960 taking notes. So it's been interesting for sure, and I 266 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:10.600 think each day that passes sometimes it's a big step 267 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:13.159 forward in me assuming these are these two individuals are 268 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.559 gonna be found guilty. But maybe, you know, maybe I'm 269 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.200 wrong here. So the fifth day of the trial was yesterday, 270 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.879 and again there was more key testimony surrounding brooks Out 271 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.159 and his attempts to contract contact Rogers around the times 272 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:32.000 she vanished. And I don't know if that's being I mean, 273 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.200 him trying to reach out to her after she had vanished. 274 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.879 I mean, can't prove it at least I don't think 275 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.600 you can. But to me, that's just an obvious way 276 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.200 of trying to cover your rear end of Oh, I see, 277 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.120 I didn't. I didn't. I had nothing to do with it. 278 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.960 I was worried I didn't know where she was. So anyways, 279 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.159 I guess what was learned yesterday that I believe his 280 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.559 new information is the testimony from Amber Bowman, who is 281 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.639 the former girlfriend of Nick out Brooks Howk's brother, former 282 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:05.600 law enforcement officer, of course, who has since been relieved 283 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.360 of his duties as a law enforcement officer and is 284 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.879 currently listed as a unindicted co conspirator. His girlfriend claims 285 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.320 that she testified this that she couldn't reach him despite 286 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:19.279 multiple calls during the He had an unusual absence on 287 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.879 July third, and she said she couldn't reach him despite 288 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:25.720 multiple attempts, and he reappeared the next day without any explanation. 289 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.840 And that's to me again, a really it's a bad look. 290 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.360 But is that is that proof? Now? Apparently, one of 291 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.679 the questions I suppose by the defense when questioning the 292 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:41.159 witness here, Amber Bowman, Nick Cowk's former girlfriend, the question 293 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.519 was did he did he reappear bloody as if he 294 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.799 had you know, I again I'm paraphrasing here, but something 295 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.720 along the lines of did he look like he had 296 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.240 just committed a murder? And of course she said no. 297 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.080 And I'm thinking, like, if that's your questioning for the defense, 298 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.320 that he didn't look, I mean like that kind of 299 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.120 tells me you don't have a whole lot to run 300 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.360 with as far as defending your you know, defending your 301 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:06.639 client in this situation. Also, another witness to testified yesterday 302 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.000 is Charlie Gerdley, who's a former employee of Halck who 303 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:14.440 testified in the previous trial of Steve Lawson, and his 304 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:18.960 claims was that he heard Hawke's mother Rosemary say that 305 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.440 quote it would be better off if Crystal were gone, 306 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.080 which of course suggests a motive within the Hawk family. 307 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.000 He also testified that Joseph Lawson claimed he would quote 308 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.720 Barry Rogers car with the skid steer and nobody would 309 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.919 ever find it, of course, implicating Lawson and tampering with evidence. 310 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:41.559 So these statements were these statements basically underscored the prosecution's 311 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.240 narrative of conspiracy here. And then there's another witness who 312 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.200 was Raccoon hunting on the Hawk family property on July third, 313 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.480 that testified seeing a white car later identified as belonging 314 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:57.039 to the grandmother of Brooks. Hawk, investigators found a hair 315 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.320 in the car's trunk that was similar in color and 316 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:03.639 characteristics to Crystal Rodgers here through DNA testing, but was 317 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.120 not confirmed in court. So again, maybe that's not as 318 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.080 uncommon as as I believe, but it's similar in color 319 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.840 and characteristics, but through DNA testing it wasn't able to 320 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.279 be confirmed in the trial as being her DNA, So 321 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.759 again that's far from the smoking gun, but that to 322 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.639 me is the closest thing we've had since this whole 323 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.320 thing started as far as physical like DNA evidence, But 324 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.519 again it's it's kind of DNA evidence, right, similar color 325 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.480 and characteristics, but the DNA testing didn't confirm in court 326 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.159 that it was that it was actually hers. I guess 327 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.919 it didn't confirm that it wasn't. Maybe it was inconclusive. 328 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.879 But we'll see what happens today because day I guess 329 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.279 it's day six getting underway later today. All right, we've 330 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.600 got an update on Travick and weather coming your way. Also, 331 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:50.360 Royo and Eli of NBC News set to join us 332 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.159 on the other side. Keep it locked right here. It's 333 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.320 Kentucky and it's Morning News on News Radio eight forty 334 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:59.240 whas five forty six. Here Kentucky and it's Morning News 335 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:01.919 with Nick Coffee on. He was Radio eight forty whas. 336 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.039 Let's bring in Rory O'Neil of NBC News. Good morning, Rory. 337 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:08.279 Let's get started when it comes to the shooter in Idaho, 338 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.480 the twenty year old that killed two firefighters and of 339 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.720 course injured one. What do we know as far as 340 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.519 who this individual is and any potential motive. 341 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:20.599 Yeah, we still. 342 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.799 Don't have a lot of questions about the motive in 343 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.640 the case. And what we've heard from some family members 344 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.839 of this suspected gunman is that he may have wanted 345 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.400 to be a firefighter. That's what I think his grandfather 346 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:37.119 had said. But still that part of the investigation is ongoing. 347 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.759 They have identified, as you said, the shooter though, as 348 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:43.000 being a twenty year old really described as a transient 349 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.839 to live with family member. After family members so sort 350 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.559 of hopped around a great deal, he set the fire, 351 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.640 we believe, and then that brought the firefighters out to 352 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.599 the scene, and then they were the targets of his 353 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:01.480 gun fire. Two veteran firefighters were killed and a third 354 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.720 is still listed in critical condition this morning. 355 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.119 So you mentioned being a transient, Is that I mean, 356 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.000 does he the area where this took place? Do we 357 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.519 know is he considered a local? Obviously he was in 358 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.440 the wilderness seemingly, but it didn't seem as if anybody 359 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:17.559 in the community really knew a whole lot about this 360 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.319 guy at all. It seems as if those who have 361 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.559 had any knowledge of this individual, it's people from his 362 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.519 past when he was younger. I think I saw his 363 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.119 father didn't have much of a relationship with him at. 364 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.680 All, right, Right, And that's why we say it was 365 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.960 difficult to describe his living status again, because it seemed 366 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.279 he would stay with his grandmother I think most recently, 367 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:39.759 but sort of hopped around with family member to family 368 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:45.680 member and had a strange, perhaps difficult upbringing. 369 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.799 So a lot of that is still the. 370 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:52.039 Subject of this investigation as they pieced together his personal timeline. 371 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:55.920 But obviously what led to this is still such a 372 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.359 stretch because to take this kind of action. You know, again, 373 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:02.559 we know his father or grandfather had said that he 374 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.640 sort of dreamed of being a firefighter, but it wasn't 375 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.319 clear if he had actually made any practical efforts to 376 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:09.160 try to become one. 377 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.039 Yes, I see that he had applied for a forestry 378 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.759 service job but was eventually was not hired for that 379 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.559 job that he applied for. So maybe he'll he'll we 380 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.880 won't hear anything now, but maybe we'll find out that 381 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.359 there was some bitterness towards that. But certainly a tragic situation. 382 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.039 What has been the response there locally as far as 383 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.720 just the community. Obviously you've got people who sign up 384 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:34.119 to save lives and they assume that's what they're going 385 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.720 to potentially do and then they're ambushed. 386 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.400 Well right, I mean a big turnout was seeing just 387 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.000 hours after the shootings when people were lining the streets 388 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.680 when the bodies were taken back from the scene of 389 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:51.880 the shooting back to a funeral home there in town. 390 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.839 So we've seen a huge amount of support for this. 391 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.720 But again, I think the community is still just absolutely 392 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:04.400 in Corda Lane, not a particularly large city close to Spokane. 393 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.839 But still we. 394 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:08.680 Do suspect that we'll learn a lot more about the 395 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:11.400 suspect because it is a relatively small town who. 396 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.240 And the shooters certainly has some sort of roots there. 397 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:17.119 Sure, Roy and Heil. THENBC News is our guest joining 398 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.880 us here on news Radio eight forty whas So, Senators 399 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:25.319 voted in a marathon session known as voter rama, featuring 400 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.200 a series of amendments by Republicans and the minority Democrats. 401 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.200