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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so here we are on yet another weekend

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<v Speaker 2>fix for the Gary and Shannon Show, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the added version of the regular hijinks that we can't

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<v Speaker 2>get into during the.

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<v Speaker 1>Week This reminds me sitting in this little room with

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<v Speaker 1>no windows.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's different. It's a different studio than we do

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<v Speaker 2>the regular show.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of when the show had not yet

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<v Speaker 1>begun and they didn't know what that show was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. It was from one to three, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did not know what that was going to be. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another show on the air at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so everything was very secret, very hush hush. Should I

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<v Speaker 1>even be telling this story.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, It's short, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there were different ideas percolating of what the

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<v Speaker 1>show would be, and our boss had us go into

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<v Speaker 1>one of these little secret rooms and just talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other and record it and just to see what

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<v Speaker 1>it would sound like us talking to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And then ten years later, here we are in a

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<v Speaker 2>little room doing the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I okay, So I wanted to bring this up because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how different people handle this. You and

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<v Speaker 2>I think have you're better at this than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>This potential situation, and there's two different versions of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier this week, we had a meeting, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>both worked with Woody from The Woody Show for years.

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<v Speaker 4>When you worked with you use that term very loosely.

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<v Speaker 2>We work in the same building, work in the same building,

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<v Speaker 2>and have been at the same events and have been

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<v Speaker 2>the same meetings and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember ever seeing him at an event or

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<v Speaker 4>a meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>Really.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh, I funny. And he had no idea who

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<v Speaker 4>I was. By the way, anyway, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean earlier this week. Sorry for timeline.

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<v Speaker 4>Purpose, no clue he said.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he said to me, I feel like we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've met each other years ago, but it was so

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<v Speaker 1>long ago that it's awkward for me to introduce myself

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<v Speaker 1>and I shake hands, and he said, you came in

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<v Speaker 1>to see Gina grad a few months ago, it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had no idea who you were, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought, perfect that it's not awkward. Yeah, exactly, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>know I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I've not met Woody, I've never spoken to him,

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<v Speaker 2>but we talk about their show, they talk about our show.

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<v Speaker 2>We've we've you know, we there's a lot of common,

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<v Speaker 2>uh crossover in terms of the people that work there

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<v Speaker 2>that used to work with us and vice versa. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it was an awkward moment because I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>should have long ago introduced myself to him. We lived

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<v Speaker 2>near each other, I mean like we have homes next

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<v Speaker 2>to each other. I see him walking around our neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 2>not but it's not my thing, and it's not and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not necessarily embarrassed about it. But it's just one

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<v Speaker 2>of those It's one of those relationship things that I

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<v Speaker 2>think people deal with, which is specifically I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one version of it. The other one is you work

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<v Speaker 2>in a place or maybe your commute doctor's office, however

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<v Speaker 2>you do this, and you see people at that place

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<v Speaker 2>every day or however often you're.

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<v Speaker 3>There, but you don't know their names, and you should

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<v Speaker 3>know their names. You know that.

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<v Speaker 4>This is half of my year for the past seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how I started working for the Chargers, met everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and how cool, and didn't pay attention for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>like three seasons. And then when I started paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was brought down to earth, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who anybody was. And to this day, on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Hi, nice to see you, How are you? How

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<v Speaker 1>are the kids? I have no idea what anybody's name is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they know mine. But they all

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<v Speaker 1>work together on the regular, this this team at the facility,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you, So they see each other every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like the one Sunday and every Sunday person, so

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<v Speaker 1>they probably don't know my name either, but there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I am screwed.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the situation that I've run into that brings

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<v Speaker 2>up a weird feeling in my heart. Where they walk

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<v Speaker 2>up and they say, Hey, it's me. I'm Keana. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>we met, and I go, of course, I know who

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<v Speaker 2>you are. I never had any idea what that person's

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<v Speaker 2>name was. I mean, I know who producer Keany is,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's different. But I mean they they take it

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<v Speaker 2>upon themselves to reintroduce themselves to you because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the expectation that you remember their name, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you feel a little bit slided, like, well, of course

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<v Speaker 2>I would remember your name, even though you don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>remember my.

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<v Speaker 1>Usband will say things like you just don't pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that you forgot well, you just don't pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's true, but it's not coming from a nefarious place.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not hitting you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>About myself the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I'm overwhelmed or I've got things going on

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<v Speaker 2>Well that yours is probably the best example of it,

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<v Speaker 2>because you are excited about so you're in a new place,

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<v Speaker 2>this is new people.

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<v Speaker 3>You. Here's the other part about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know how long you're going to be there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and this is one of those situations where

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know how often you're going to see Woody

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<v Speaker 2>again or whatever. So so you don't put the brain

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<v Speaker 2>gasoline on the name to make sure that it imprints

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<v Speaker 2>in your in your head. So I was, I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about this and I actually looked it up and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very funny. There's a couple different tips on

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<v Speaker 2>ways to avoid that problem. And I've done this before too.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you spell your last name? That's what I'll say,

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<v Speaker 2>is how do you spell your last name? To somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that I should know their last name, or salespeople that

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<v Speaker 2>we deal with, like I just want to send the

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<v Speaker 2>email to the right place.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you spell your last name?

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<v Speaker 2>And they go, it's the if they say something like

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<v Speaker 2>it's the common spelling, I'm screwed. I'm back to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back to zero, like I got, I got, still got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say, yeah, but I mean, how you

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<v Speaker 2>spell it? Or try to do something funny so that

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<v Speaker 2>I can type it in the word at least in

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<v Speaker 2>our email program will auto fill the rest of the name,

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, oh, of course it's you, Jim. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew Jim Jim and I go way back and all

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. One guy says, I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>this situation before. This is off of a website I

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<v Speaker 2>found asking the question of what do you do when

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<v Speaker 2>you've known someone for a year and you still don't

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<v Speaker 2>know their name. So somebody says I've been in the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>or sir, yeah, you stop being.

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<v Speaker 3>Such an asshole. To people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. I think part of it with

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<v Speaker 1>you and oh here it comes. Well, just going back

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<v Speaker 1>to your original thought of not talking to people, I e. Woody,

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of you ascribes to the why open

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth and confirm their belief that you're an idiot? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>which I understand. I wish I had that. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had that. I wish I could shut up because

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<v Speaker 1>I totally believe in that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's my stumbling block. But that's your like greased slide.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stop myself and you stop yourself probably more

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<v Speaker 1>than you should, or you I mean, because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot, right, but well, I mean all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that's part of the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like you're you remain pretty quiet, and that can

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<v Speaker 1>come across as you thinking you're better or you're just

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the responses is, uh, hand someone if

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<v Speaker 2>you depending on the context obvious, you wouldn't just do

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<v Speaker 2>this to a stranger, but you hand someone on your

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<v Speaker 2>your number in or something like that, which is I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like handing over your newborn baby. Here, take my

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<v Speaker 2>The other one would be, if resort to plan, b

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<v Speaker 2>ask them to add you on some social media site

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<v Speaker 2>that you both of.

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<v Speaker 1>You that's really needy, that's really needy, and then way

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<v Speaker 1>together notice Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I would rather die.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather jump off this building and tell somebody

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<v Speaker 2>There's another guy who responded to this question says, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a prosecutor. I appear in court sometimes several times a week,

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<v Speaker 2>of bailiffs at sheriffs there, and every day the court

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<v Speaker 2>starts with me saying good morning, your honor Jeremy for

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown. Is it obviously a British guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't introduce themselves, the clerks and the sheriffs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I should know these people, I work

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<v Speaker 1>Probably for Jeremy because probably his first couple of times

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<v Speaker 4>He had a bunch of things on his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's too late for Jeremy to find out

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy should bring donuts once.

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<v Speaker 2>A week, even though those people are probably the ones

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<v Speaker 4>That's all he needs is the clerk in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, any other tips the other one. The kind of

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<v Speaker 2>relationship this is from an anonymous poster. The kind of

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<v Speaker 2>relationship where you do not know the other person's name

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<v Speaker 2>is the best kind of relationship because with the names,

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<v Speaker 2>you then start making decisions about them, about their religion,

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<v Speaker 2>about their friends, about their ancestry, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But without names, there's no expectation, no need of any

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<v Speaker 2>extra effort to try to maintain that relationship level.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't meet someone and go, Dave, he's Christian, although

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<v Speaker 1>that checks out right. Hey, Suths, here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people care that you don't know their names.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think people care that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>their names. They probably don't know my name.

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<v Speaker 4>Wood He didn't know my name.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I know his name is because it's

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<v Speaker 1>The Woody Show. And I know Menace because who else's

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<v Speaker 1>named menas right?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that is also true.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anybody else who works on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than Gina because she worked with us for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Morgan Morgan as well. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>You've never seen Sea Bass walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Sea Bass is. I mean, also a

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<v Speaker 1>catchy name, but no no idea. I mean, I see

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<v Speaker 2>But that's also one of those things where when I

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not a lot of time elevator. It's

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<v Speaker 2>And for four or five years, once twice a week,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just because I was.

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<v Speaker 2>day every Tuesday, we happen to be in the same place,

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<v Speaker 2>which show do you work like? And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>put the two together so that you could at least

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<v Speaker 2>then the greeting would become, oh, hey, Shanna, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But so there's some ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like Isabelle, who works here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known Isabelle for example, money, I should be at

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<v Speaker 1>probably anybody else except for you. Yet we have this

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<v Speaker 1>just like good morning relationship, which is fine. But I

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<v Speaker 1>some some domain I should know more. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with her even though we don't do the

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<v Speaker 1>same things. We've worked in the same building for so long, so.

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<v Speaker 2>The suggestions are be honest. Just admit, hey, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen each other every day for the last seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know your name. Introduce yourself. You can introduce

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<v Speaker 2>yourself first. Like I said earlier, someone is polite enough

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<v Speaker 4>Do I hate that word? There needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of idiot hands some on their phone like

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<v Speaker 1>put your information in the ad me on socials you.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them says, use the contextual approach. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a group setting, you ask someone else to introduce them,

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<v Speaker 2>refer to them casually. You do that with your husband.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that with my wife. Oh my gosh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's that guy's name? And you say, please, you introduced first.

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<v Speaker 2>So that if I'm introducing you to Keana, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>in a party, and you don't know her name, but

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<v Speaker 2>you should, I'll say something like, oh, hey, Keana, this

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<v Speaker 4>But here's my point. Keana doesn't care that we don't

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<v Speaker 4>know her name.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, in this she would she would totally care.

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<v Speaker 3>She totally does she would totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you she does not avoid awkwardness.

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<v Speaker 4>That's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>If it feels too awkward, focus on the relationship and

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<v Speaker 4>Can I tell you something? Can I share something with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going to put my contact in for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can give me my baby back. I felt two

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<v Speaker 1>things after our work event. I felt two things that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to feel. I felt failure and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt jealousy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand either one of those things. Why did

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<v Speaker 3>you feel failure?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I pride myself on getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had set a you'd set a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>limit as to what I wanted that door closing behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like failing at things, and I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>being jealous of people. And I found myself a failure

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<v Speaker 1>and jealous of Ryan Seacrest because he got out of

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<v Speaker 1>event ended, Ryan got out right before I got out,

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately I felt like a failure and then jealous

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<v Speaker 1>of Ryan Seacrest, things I've never felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ryan also had a car service.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. That means nothing to me. He was

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<v Speaker 3>Did say exit? It did? And then I got so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to go to the other exit, and then Ryan's

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<v Speaker 2>That was funny the moment you went out the basically

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<v Speaker 2>to try to make your your your exit rather unobtrusive.

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<v Speaker 2>You spun around and came back, and the look on

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<v Speaker 2>You're like that not so then you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>I know if I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>This, But Ellen, we were sitting with Siciny and Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>k and Ellen says, so did you guys do your

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, you both look so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>We need some sort of like training, We need some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of face boot camp. The other thing was that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean looked so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>The other people that were there, I mean they was

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<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't that be awful? I was kind of glad

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a continuation of our day. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>we had to go home and then go back for that, oh, people.

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<v Speaker 4>Would have ended. I would have ended lives probably.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have any suggestions on what you would do

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<v Speaker 2>if you knew so many it was super lovely. You

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<v Speaker 2>knew someone for a year and you didn't know their name,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you just you just sit on it.

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<v Speaker 3>You just take the loss and never to that person again.

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<v Speaker 4>Or remember you do it. Keana does not care.

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<v Speaker 3>Keana does care?

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<v Speaker 4>I think not.

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<v Speaker 3>She would be so upset if you didn't actually know

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<v Speaker 1>She would not Okay, No, I mean like in a party,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we met Kian, like she was on our

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<v Speaker 4>She wouldn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, then let me put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think the better version of it is

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<v Speaker 2>you say to me, I should know her name.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say, and then I say, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>insaneting that like, well, whatever, I need a coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I say to you hey, or I say

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<v Speaker 2>is like, oh, I'm Kiana, and then we both.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that, And she wouldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about h Kana, not just that, not that one,

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<v Speaker 2>uh Kiana.

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<v Speaker 4>Forget what it was anyway that could have been off theear.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we'll just we'll tag the podcast with it. Tune

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