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Speaker 2: All right, so here we are on yet another weekend
Speaker 2: fix for the Gary and Shannon Show, and this is
Speaker 2: the added version of the regular hijinks that we can't
Speaker 2: get into during the.
Speaker 1: Week This reminds me sitting in this little room with
Speaker 1: no windows.
Speaker 2: And it's different. It's a different studio than we do
Speaker 2: the regular show.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of when the show had not yet
Speaker 1: begun and they didn't know what that show was going
Speaker 1: to be. It was from one to three, and they
Speaker 1: did not know what that was going to be. Now,
Speaker 1: there was another show on the air at the time,
Speaker 1: so everything was very secret, very hush hush. Should I
Speaker 1: even be telling this story.
Speaker 3: Anyway, It's short, that's what happens.
Speaker 1: And so there were different ideas percolating of what the
Speaker 1: show would be, and our boss had us go into
Speaker 1: one of these little secret rooms and just talk to
Speaker 1: each other and record it and just to see what
Speaker 1: it would sound like us talking to each other.
Speaker 2: And then ten years later, here we are in a
Speaker 2: little room doing the same exact thing.
Speaker 4: Again, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: I okay, So I wanted to bring this up because
Speaker 2: I don't know how different people handle this. You and
Speaker 2: I think have you're better at this than I am.
Speaker 2: This potential situation, and there's two different versions of it.
Speaker 2: Earlier this week, we had a meeting, and we have
Speaker 2: both worked with Woody from The Woody Show for years.
Speaker 4: When you worked with you use that term very loosely.
Speaker 2: We work in the same building, work in the same building,
Speaker 2: and have been at the same events and have been
Speaker 2: the same meetings and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't remember ever seeing him at an event or
Speaker 4: a meeting.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I funny. And he had no idea who
Speaker 4: I was. By the way, anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean earlier this week. Sorry for timeline.
Speaker 4: Purpose, no clue he said.
Speaker 1: In fact, he said to me, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: we've met each other years ago, but it was so
Speaker 1: long ago that it's awkward for me to introduce myself
Speaker 1: and I shake hands, and he said, you came in
Speaker 1: to see Gina grad a few months ago, it goes,
Speaker 1: and I had no idea who you were, right, And I.
Speaker 3: Thought, perfect that it's not awkward. Yeah, exactly, well, I
Speaker 3: know I have.
Speaker 2: Again, I've not met Woody, I've never spoken to him,
Speaker 2: but we talk about their show, they talk about our show.
Speaker 2: We've we've you know, we there's a lot of common,
Speaker 2: uh crossover in terms of the people that work there
Speaker 2: that used to work with us and vice versa. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it was an awkward moment because I felt like I
Speaker 2: should have long ago introduced myself to him. We lived
Speaker 2: near each other, I mean like we have homes next
Speaker 2: to each other. I see him walking around our neighborhoods
Speaker 2: not but it's not my thing, and it's not and
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily embarrassed about it. But it's just one
Speaker 2: of those It's one of those relationship things that I
Speaker 2: think people deal with, which is specifically I mean, that's
Speaker 2: one version of it. The other one is you work
Speaker 2: in a place or maybe your commute doctor's office, however
Speaker 2: you do this, and you see people at that place
Speaker 2: every day or however often you're.
Speaker 3: There, but you don't know their names, and you should
Speaker 3: know their names. You know that.
Speaker 4: This is half of my year for the past seven years.
Speaker 1: Well, how I started working for the Chargers, met everybody
Speaker 1: in one day, wasn't paying attention because I was so
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with this new job and how exciting it was
Speaker 1: and how cool, and didn't pay attention for a long time,
Speaker 1: like three seasons. And then when I started paying attention,
Speaker 1: when I was brought down to earth, I didn't know
Speaker 1: who anybody was. And to this day, on the sideline,
Speaker 1: it's Hi, nice to see you, How are you? How
Speaker 1: are the kids? I have no idea what anybody's name is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know mine. But they all
Speaker 1: work together on the regular, this this team at the facility,
Speaker 1: what have you, So they see each other every day.
Speaker 1: I'm like the one Sunday and every Sunday person, so
Speaker 1: they probably don't know my name either, but there's so
Speaker 1: many of them.
Speaker 4: I'm just I am screwed.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So here's the situation that I've run into that brings
Speaker 2: up a weird feeling in my heart. Where they walk
Speaker 2: up and they say, Hey, it's me. I'm Keana. Remember
Speaker 2: we met, and I go, of course, I know who
Speaker 2: you are. I never had any idea what that person's
Speaker 2: name was. I mean, I know who producer Keany is,
Speaker 2: so it's different. But I mean they they take it
Speaker 2: upon themselves to reintroduce themselves to you because they don't
Speaker 2: have the expectation that you remember their name, and then
Speaker 2: you feel a little bit slided, like, well, of course
Speaker 2: I would remember your name, even though you don't actually
Speaker 2: remember my.
Speaker 1: Usband will say things like you just don't pay attention.
Speaker 1: It's not that you forgot well, you just don't pay attention.
Speaker 1: And it's true, but it's not coming from a nefarious place.
Speaker 3: It's not hitting you're thinking.
Speaker 4: About myself the entire time.
Speaker 1: It's because I'm overwhelmed or I've got things going on
Speaker 1: in my head and I'm just not focused.
Speaker 2: Well that yours is probably the best example of it,
Speaker 2: because you are excited about so you're in a new place,
Speaker 2: this is new people.
Speaker 3: You. Here's the other part about it.
Speaker 2: You don't know how long you're going to be there, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, and this is one of those situations where
Speaker 2: you don't know how often you're going to see Woody
Speaker 2: again or whatever. So so you don't put the brain
Speaker 2: gasoline on the name to make sure that it imprints
Speaker 2: in your in your head. So I was, I was
Speaker 2: thinking about this and I actually looked it up and
Speaker 2: it's a very funny. There's a couple different tips on
Speaker 2: ways to avoid that problem. And I've done this before too.
Speaker 2: How do you spell your last name? That's what I'll say,
Speaker 2: is how do you spell your last name? To somebody
Speaker 2: that I should know their last name, or salespeople that
Speaker 2: we deal with, like I just want to send the
Speaker 2: email to the right place.
Speaker 3: How do you spell your last name?
Speaker 2: And they go, it's the if they say something like
Speaker 2: it's the common spelling, I'm screwed. I'm back to I'm
Speaker 2: back to zero, like I got, I got, still got nothing.
Speaker 2: And I will say, yeah, but I mean, how you
Speaker 2: spell it? Or try to do something funny so that
Speaker 2: I can type it in the word at least in
Speaker 2: our email program will auto fill the rest of the name,
Speaker 2: And I go, oh, of course it's you, Jim. I
Speaker 2: knew Jim Jim and I go way back and all
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. One guy says, I've been in
Speaker 2: this situation before. This is off of a website I
Speaker 2: found asking the question of what do you do when
Speaker 2: you've known someone for a year and you still don't
Speaker 2: know their name. So somebody says I've been in the situation,
Speaker 2: or sir, yeah, you stop being.
Speaker 3: Such an asshole. To people.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I think part of it with
Speaker 1: you and oh here it comes. Well, just going back
Speaker 1: to your original thought of not talking to people, I e. Woody,
Speaker 1: I think part of you ascribes to the why open
Speaker 1: your mouth and confirm their belief that you're an idiot? Right,
Speaker 1: which I understand. I wish I had that. I wish
Speaker 1: I had that. I wish I could shut up because
Speaker 1: I totally believe in that.
Speaker 2: But that's my stumbling block. But that's your like greased slide.
Speaker 1: I can't stop myself and you stop yourself probably more
Speaker 1: than you should, or you I mean, because you're not
Speaker 1: an idiot, right, but well, I mean all the time.
Speaker 4: But I think that's part of the thing.
Speaker 1: Is like you're you remain pretty quiet, and that can
Speaker 1: come off although you're trying not to error, it can
Speaker 1: come across as you thinking you're better or you're just
Speaker 1: a dick.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the responses is, uh, hand someone if
Speaker 2: you depending on the context obvious, you wouldn't just do
Speaker 2: this to a stranger, but you hand someone on your
Speaker 2: phone and go, hey, put your contact information or put
Speaker 2: your number in or something like that, which is I mean,
Speaker 2: that'd be a stretch.
Speaker 1: It's like handing over your newborn baby. Here, take my
Speaker 1: baby and play with it.
Speaker 2: The other one would be, if resort to plan, b
Speaker 2: ask them to add you on some social media site
Speaker 2: that you both of.
Speaker 1: You that's really needy, that's really needy, and then way
Speaker 1: together notice Instagram.
Speaker 4: Oh I would rather die.
Speaker 1: I would rather jump off this building and tell somebody
Speaker 1: to add me on social media.
Speaker 2: There's another guy who responded to this question says, I'm
Speaker 2: a prosecutor. I appear in court sometimes several times a week,
Speaker 2: always the same courthouse, limited number of clerks, limited number
Speaker 2: of bailiffs at sheriffs there, and every day the court
Speaker 2: starts with me saying good morning, your honor Jeremy for
Speaker 2: the Crown. Is it obviously a British guy, you know,
Speaker 2: who doesn't introduce themselves, the clerks and the sheriffs, right,
Speaker 2: And he's like, I should know these people, I work
Speaker 2: with them everything.
Speaker 1: Probably for Jeremy because probably his first couple of times
Speaker 1: in that courtroom he was overwhelmed.
Speaker 4: He had a bunch of things on his mind.
Speaker 1: And now it's too late for Jeremy to find out
Speaker 1: what the bailiff or the clerk's name is, even though
Speaker 1: Jeremy should bring donuts once.
Speaker 2: A week, even though those people are probably the ones
Speaker 2: that would help him get out of a jam.
Speaker 4: That's all he needs is the clerk in the courtroom.
Speaker 2: Okay, any other tips the other one. The kind of
Speaker 2: relationship this is from an anonymous poster. The kind of
Speaker 2: relationship where you do not know the other person's name
Speaker 2: is the best kind of relationship because with the names,
Speaker 2: you then start making decisions about them, about their religion,
Speaker 2: about their friends, about their ancestry, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But without names, there's no expectation, no need of any
Speaker 2: extra effort to try to maintain that relationship level.
Speaker 1: I don't meet someone and go, Dave, he's Christian, although
Speaker 1: that checks out right. Hey, Suths, here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think people care that you don't know their names.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think people care that I don't know
Speaker 1: their names. They probably don't know my name.
Speaker 4: Wood He didn't know my name.
Speaker 1: The only reason I know his name is because it's
Speaker 1: The Woody Show. And I know Menace because who else's
Speaker 1: named menas right?
Speaker 3: Like that is also true.
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody else who works on that show.
Speaker 1: Other than Gina because she worked with us for so long.
Speaker 1: You know Morgan Morgan as well. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: have no idea of other people.
Speaker 3: You've never seen Sea Bass walking around.
Speaker 1: I don't know Sea Bass is. I mean, also a
Speaker 1: catchy name, but no no idea. I mean, I see
Speaker 1: everybody in the in the elevator. We see everybody in
Speaker 1: the elevators.
Speaker 2: But that's also one of those things where when I
Speaker 2: was here, when I was doing the morning show, and
Speaker 2: I'd be here at whatever, god awful three forty four
Speaker 2: in the morning, something like that, and you'd be in
Speaker 2: the elevator. It's a common trauma, like you are sharing this.
Speaker 2: I'm up at the butt crack of dawn and I'm
Speaker 2: sharing the elevator with somebody and we're both barely awake.
Speaker 2: And there were many times, and I mean, shouldn't work
Speaker 2: here anymore, but there were many times when I'd be
Speaker 2: in the elevator with somebody who's working on one of
Speaker 2: the FM shows and it just became like, Hey, good morning,
Speaker 2: how's it going great? I hope you have a great day.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of time elevator. It's
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, but it was that was it,
Speaker 2: And for four or five years, once twice a week,
Speaker 2: we'd see each other in the elevator and I had
Speaker 2: no idea who she was.
Speaker 3: And I was just because I was.
Speaker 2: Afraid to be like, hey, I see you here every
Speaker 2: day every Tuesday, we happen to be in the same place,
Speaker 2: which show do you work like? And then and then
Speaker 2: put the two together so that you could at least
Speaker 2: then the greeting would become, oh, hey, Shanna, good morning.
Speaker 2: How's it going, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? Right?
Speaker 3: But so there's some ideas.
Speaker 2: This is actually written by AI, but the suggestions we're
Speaker 2: taking interpersonal suggestions from artificial intelligence.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like Isabelle, who works here.
Speaker 1: I've known Isabelle for example, money, I should be at
Speaker 1: Isabelle's kids wedding. Like we've spent more time together collectively,
Speaker 1: like seeing each other in the past twenty years than
Speaker 1: probably anybody else except for you. Yet we have this
Speaker 1: just like good morning relationship, which is fine. But I
Speaker 1: feel like I should know. I feel like there maybe
Speaker 1: some some domain I should know more. I feel like
Speaker 1: we should be friends or something like I feel like
Speaker 1: I've worked with her even though we don't do the
Speaker 1: same things. We've worked in the same building for so long, so.
Speaker 2: The suggestions are be honest. Just admit, hey, look, I'm
Speaker 2: super embarrassed.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We've seen each other every day for the last seven years.
Speaker 2: I don't know your name. Introduce yourself. You can introduce
Speaker 2: yourself first. Like I said earlier, someone is polite enough
Speaker 2: to go, hey, it's my name is Gary.
Speaker 4: Do I hate that word? There needs to be a
Speaker 4: new word.
Speaker 1: What kind of idiot hands some on their phone like
Speaker 1: put your information in the ad me on socials you.
Speaker 2: One of them says, use the contextual approach. If you're
Speaker 2: in a group setting, you ask someone else to introduce them,
Speaker 2: refer to them casually. You do that with your husband.
Speaker 2: I do that with my wife. Oh my gosh, that's
Speaker 2: what's that guy's name? And you say, please, you introduced first.
Speaker 2: So that if I'm introducing you to Keana, for example,
Speaker 2: in a party, and you don't know her name, but
Speaker 2: you should, I'll say something like, oh, hey, Keana, this
Speaker 2: is my wife.
Speaker 4: But here's my point. Keana doesn't care that we don't
Speaker 4: know her name.
Speaker 3: No, no, in this she would she would totally care.
Speaker 3: She totally does she would totally.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you she does not avoid awkwardness.
Speaker 4: That's impossible.
Speaker 2: If it feels too awkward, focus on the relationship and
Speaker 2: the interactions rather than the name itself.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you something? Can I share something with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to put my contact in for it.
Speaker 1: I can give me my baby back. I felt two
Speaker 1: things after our work event. I felt two things that
Speaker 1: I don't like to feel. I felt failure and I
Speaker 1: felt jealousy.
Speaker 3: I don't understand either one of those things. Why did
Speaker 3: you feel failure?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I pride myself on getting out of
Speaker 1: things right quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had set a you'd set a hard time
Speaker 2: limit as to what I wanted that door closing behind you.
Speaker 1: I don't like failing at things, and I don't like
Speaker 1: being jealous of people. And I found myself a failure
Speaker 1: and jealous of Ryan Seacrest because he got out of
Speaker 1: that door about four seconds before I did. After that
Speaker 1: event ended, Ryan got out right before I got out,
Speaker 1: and immediately I felt like a failure and then jealous
Speaker 1: of Ryan Seacrest, things I've never felt.
Speaker 3: Well, Ryan also had a car service.
Speaker 1: I don't care. That means nothing to me. He was
Speaker 1: out the security guy. I was at the door. Granted,
Speaker 1: I went to an exit that I thought was an
Speaker 1: exit and then was turned away because it was not
Speaker 1: an exit.
Speaker 3: Did say exit? It did? And then I got so I.
Speaker 1: Had to go to the other exit, and then Ryan's
Speaker 1: there taking pictures and he's able to get out the
Speaker 1: door before I am, and I wanted to be the
Speaker 1: first out of that room.
Speaker 2: That was funny the moment you went out the basically
Speaker 2: the back door, because it said exit, you were going
Speaker 2: to try to make your your your exit rather unobtrusive.
Speaker 2: You spun around and came back, and the look on
Speaker 2: your face when you realized that was not an exit,
Speaker 2: You're like that not so then you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: cross all the way across the room and follow Ryan
Speaker 2: Seacrest out the front door.
Speaker 4: I know if I told you.
Speaker 1: This, But Ellen, we were sitting with Siciny and Ellen
Speaker 1: k and Ellen says, so did you guys do your
Speaker 1: show and then come right here? And I said we did.
Speaker 1: She goes, you both look so excited to be here.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, we're awful.
Speaker 1: We need some sort of like training, We need some
Speaker 1: sort of face boot camp. The other thing was that,
Speaker 1: I mean looked so excited to be here.
Speaker 2: The other people that were there, I mean they was
Speaker 2: a big Boy in not to name drop. Big Boy
Speaker 2: and Valentine were there, and Ellen was there, and Ryan
Speaker 2: Seacrest was there with Sisany Sisiny and Tanya and Handle
Speaker 2: was there. They all had time to go home refresh
Speaker 2: and then come back for a meeting.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be awful? I was kind of glad
Speaker 1: it was just a continuation of our day. Like if
Speaker 1: we had to go home and then go back for that, oh, people.
Speaker 4: Would have ended. I would have ended lives probably.
Speaker 2: If you have any suggestions on what you would do
Speaker 2: if you knew so many it was super lovely. You
Speaker 2: knew someone for a year and you didn't know their name,
Speaker 2: what do you just you just sit on it.
Speaker 3: You just take the loss and never to that person again.
Speaker 4: Or remember you do it. Keana does not care.
Speaker 3: Keana does care?
Speaker 4: I think not.
Speaker 3: She would be so upset if you didn't actually know
Speaker 3: her name.
Speaker 1: She would not Okay, No, I mean like in a party,
Speaker 1: like if we met Kian, like she was on our
Speaker 1: producer and we didn't know and we like double backed
Speaker 1: and didn't know her name.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't care.
Speaker 3: Oh well, then let me put it this way.
Speaker 2: I think I think the better version of it is
Speaker 2: you say to me, I should know her name.
Speaker 1: I would never say, and then I say, because that's
Speaker 1: insaneting that like, well, whatever, I need a coffee.
Speaker 2: And then I say to you hey, or I say
Speaker 2: to Keana, hey, this is my wife, and then Keana'
Speaker 2: is like, oh, I'm Kiana, and then we both.
Speaker 3: Go, that's.
Speaker 4: Like that, And she wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this one.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about h Kana, not just that, not that one,
Speaker 2: uh Kiana.
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