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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Dragon. He owns a radio station in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a very big and powerful voice, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has amazing conspiracy mystery stories. And tonight a person that's

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<v Speaker 1>always fascinated me because nothing made sense. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>actress Anne Hash who had a mysterious, mysterious passing. Welcome Eddie,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the other side of Midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning Walter, and thanks for hanging out this week.

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, one of those ones that has

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<v Speaker 2>been on the mind of every you know, Instagram, every

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok follower, everybody out there, because it just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keeps repeating itself. And Hash have watched a few movies

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<v Speaker 2>with her in it. She of course, is someone that's

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<v Speaker 2>well known, you know, for her partner, and we need

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<v Speaker 2>to really kind of, you know, take a hard look

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<v Speaker 2>at the death of her because this is only four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. It feels like a lot longer because it's

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<v Speaker 2>been so competitive. It's just been in your algorithm just

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<v Speaker 2>coming up and once you press one, it just they

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<v Speaker 2>just keep coming up. And in my algorithm it's been

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<v Speaker 2>there as well. And this is a woman who's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an actress whose life was you know, marked by talent controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's very resilient given her upbringing, the abuse

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<v Speaker 2>that she suffered as a child, and a willingness really

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of come forward and talk about her traumas.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the years since her death, which is only

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<v Speaker 2>four this is back in twenty twenty two, the tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>has become something more on these social media platforms, as

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<v Speaker 2>I stated, a web of theories involving Hollywood, Ellen Degeneris,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Epstein, Sean p d Didy Comb's child trafficking, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>even the old Pizzagate narrative. But before we go any further,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's establish the official record that's out there. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in August fifth, twenty twenty two, and hash crashed her car.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those Mini Cooper's Blue one to

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<v Speaker 2>watch a video of her zooming pass into a home

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<v Speaker 2>in the Marvin area of Los Angeles. Now, the collision

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<v Speaker 2>triggered a major fire, hait suffered catastrophic injuries days later.

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<v Speaker 2>About a week later, she was declared legally dead after

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<v Speaker 2>suffering an oxic brain injury, which is a loss of

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<v Speaker 2>oxygen to the brain. Now, the Los Angeles County Medical

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<v Speaker 2>Examiner corners ruled out her death was an accident caused

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<v Speaker 2>by the inhalation thermal injuries. You know, she had a

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<v Speaker 2>external fracture from blunt trauma was also noted so right

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<v Speaker 2>in her chest. But her toxicology report has also been

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<v Speaker 2>twisted online as well. It found an inactive cocaine metabolite,

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<v Speaker 2>indicating prior use, but the coroner said there was no

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that Hash was impaired by illicted drugs at the

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<v Speaker 2>time of the crash. Vncentol detected later was consistent with

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<v Speaker 2>her hospital treatment post crash, obviously and not before the wreck.

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<v Speaker 2>Then came the video, and in this it's startling, I

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<v Speaker 2>think for a lot of people, yourself Walter included. You're

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching video of you know, the mini Cooper zooming

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy five eighty miles an hour through that mar

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<v Speaker 2>Vista neighborhood and then you know, running into a crash.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was helicopter footage, which is what is most

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<v Speaker 2>notable about this is that shows and Hash on a stretcher, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>overhead covered, strapped down, and then suddenly she appears to

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<v Speaker 2>like sit up like sits moves before she was loaded

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<v Speaker 2>into the ambulance and and and right there you look

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<v Speaker 2>at like, is that a body bag? And she's alive?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't take her away. That image has reframed the

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<v Speaker 2>n Hash escaping a body bag, and that is what

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has been referring to for the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is not what the footage shows. She was

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<v Speaker 2>actually alive when the firefighters rescued her. She was not

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<v Speaker 2>declared dead at the scene as is commonly understood, or

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<v Speaker 2>she died. She was. She was. She has a patient cover,

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<v Speaker 2>she had a sheet. This is what the ambulances actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>They put a restraint system. And it's not a body bag. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the this type of framing that helped turn this

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<v Speaker 2>horrifying emergency into conspiracy, you know, thrills for I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to say it, that's what it mostly is. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Ellen degenerous part is really what enters the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>because of her connections to Hollywood. They were partners back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think a long time ago, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that Ellen ate her, that Ellen committed cannibalism on Anne Hash.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is the story we need to bring fok.

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<v Speaker 2>We I'd like to bring that forward. It sounds fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>and realistic if you it really does.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Walter, I love to feed that, but she did

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<v Speaker 2>not feed. Yeah. And then the symbolism, I mean at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, you know they were a couple. This was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years prior. They're the most visibly openly gay

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<v Speaker 2>couple in American entertainment, famously holding hands at award show.

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<v Speaker 2>Et Cetera later spoke about personal and professional fallout from

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<v Speaker 2>being associated with Ellen during an arrow when Hollywood was

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<v Speaker 2>way less except okay, you have to think back. So

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<v Speaker 2>decades later, Haiti's crash brought that relationship back into the

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<v Speaker 2>forefront and into internet speculation. Some online posts have actually

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that Anne knew compromising things about Degenerous trafficking networks,

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein or Hollywood powerbrokers. But unfortunately, there's no verified evidence

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<v Speaker 2>showing that Anne hash was targeted, that she was preparing

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<v Speaker 2>to expose a criminal network, or that Degenerous had any

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<v Speaker 2>connection to her death in any way. And there's another

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<v Speaker 2>fact that fuels all this narrative, that is, through social media,

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<v Speaker 2>Degenerous and her wife Portia de Rossi, by the way, attractive,

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<v Speaker 2>moved to England just a couple of years ago after

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<v Speaker 2>Trump won the reelection in twenty four Degenerous later said

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<v Speaker 2>that the election influenced their decision to stay in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>But the timing here matters because Anne has just died

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago. Degenerous move more than two years later.

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<v Speaker 2>That relocation and election is the evidence and not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a flight from a crime of killing nn

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<v Speaker 2>hahed unfortunately. And then there's the very famous Oscar pizza. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who's on TikTok has seen this, Okay, for those

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<v Speaker 2>who haven't seen it. Back in twenty fourteen, Ellen de

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<v Speaker 2>Generes hosted the Academy Awards. She hosted the ceremony and

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<v Speaker 2>she orders a pizza and she started handing the slices

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<v Speaker 2>around the front rows. Brad Pitt, I think guy Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence is there another? Major stars are part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a famous event. Yes, absolutely, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>So and people have been integrating this and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a you know, comic moment essentially tossing out pizza

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, really what's there. And the delivery driver

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<v Speaker 2>was brought into the theater in Los Angeles. So years later,

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<v Speaker 2>after the Pizzagate conspiracy took hold, some people have retroactively

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<v Speaker 2>treated the pizza bit as a coded signal that, oh, pizzagate,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a leap again that there is no link. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>Walter So, Pizzagate, of course, was the claim that Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>were operating a child trafficking ring from Comet Ping Pong

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<v Speaker 2>in DC. No victims, criminal evidence or legitimate investigation has

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<v Speaker 2>supported that claim. Okay, legitimately as not, but it has

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<v Speaker 2>had real world consequences when this back in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy walks in into a non existent basement and

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<v Speaker 2>fire shots inside Comet Ping Pong. And this is all

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<v Speaker 2>a lesson this pizza reference, all the pizza references that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there. Sure, there's some indications of that, but

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<v Speaker 2>with regard to Ellen DeGeneres and the pizza event that

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<v Speaker 2>happened over at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood. No, the

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity friendship can be a celebrity friendship. You can have

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<v Speaker 2>appearances and then let's finally hit the last part.

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<v Speaker 1>Go now, Eddie Dragon, what about this myth or this

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<v Speaker 1>fact that today Ellen DeGeneres is suffering from a disease

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<v Speaker 1>and the disease she seems to be suffering from is

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<v Speaker 1>one that you only get if you eat human flesh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, what evidence is there that she's actually suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from this disease?

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<v Speaker 1>This was also I read I read, Yeah, I read

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<v Speaker 1>it on the internet, so it must be true, it

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<v Speaker 1>must be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm not going to validate that at all either.

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<v Speaker 2>She has been, like you know, out of the public

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<v Speaker 2>eye for the last two two and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, the Internet can speculate at any point of

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<v Speaker 2>which there actually isn't evidence. And then unfortunately we live

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<v Speaker 2>in this era where photos and videos can now be doctored.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even know what to believe half the time

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<v Speaker 2>that actually there. But here is one that actually people

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<v Speaker 2>have been legitimizing a lot more because you have a

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<v Speaker 2>New York resident right here in New York City, Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy Combs. Remember him and Ellen were close. They appeared

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<v Speaker 2>on the show together. Old clips show them joking about

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<v Speaker 2>the parties, the p didty parties. These clips have re

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<v Speaker 2>emerged amid the investigation and civil litigation surrounding p Diddy,

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<v Speaker 2>but a top pro show relationship, you know, banter party talk,

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<v Speaker 2>all this alleged criminal events, you know, the crimes, whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not Ellen participated in them. I mean this is

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<v Speaker 2>important because the charges and allegations directed at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a person like P Diddy can't be transferred to everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who took a photo, interviewed him, or a teniary event.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, of course, Walter on a serious note,

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<v Speaker 2>child exploitation and trafficking, they're real, they're horrific crimes. The

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<v Speaker 2>failures are the powerful institutions to identify, investigate and stop

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<v Speaker 2>abuse actually need to be reinforced. Of course, Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>is just a genuine example of wealthy and connected offenders.

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<v Speaker 2>I know more of that than anybody that's probably on

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<v Speaker 2>your program, or anybody even that you know being a

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<v Speaker 2>recipient of that. Yeah, but when every celebrity interaction becomes proof,

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<v Speaker 2>this is when it becomes harder, not easier, to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the perpetrators like Jeffrey Epstein, or the victims, or

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<v Speaker 2>the records or the witnesses or financial trails or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that they're connected to. And Haitia's death is tragic,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it raises a lot of questions because the

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<v Speaker 2>crash it's chaotic, right, the footage it's crazy. It's disturbing

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<v Speaker 2>that eighty miles an hour through a neighborhood, and she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't die at the scene, she's taken in and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unzipping that quote unquote body bag. And Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>is an industry that has repeatedly protected powerful people, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but the documented record says she died in an accidental

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<v Speaker 2>crash and fire. The rest of the claims murder, secret trafficking,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan generous relocation, pizza, Pizzagate, the celebrity code, all that

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<v Speaker 2>is just speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Dragon, what's the name of your radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>Rockof Talk rockoftalk dot com. Walter love your show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>On you bet Eddie Dragon in New Mexico. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being on the other side of Midnight