Speaker 1: Eddie Dragon. He owns a radio station in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: He has a very big and powerful voice, and he
Speaker 1: has amazing conspiracy mystery stories. And tonight a person that's
Speaker 1: always fascinated me because nothing made sense. It was that
Speaker 1: actress Anne Hash who had a mysterious, mysterious passing. Welcome Eddie,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the other side of Midnight.
Speaker 2: Good morning Walter, and thanks for hanging out this week.
Speaker 2: This is you know, one of those ones that has
Speaker 2: been on the mind of every you know, Instagram, every
Speaker 2: TikTok follower, everybody out there, because it just, you know,
Speaker 2: keeps repeating itself. And Hash have watched a few movies
Speaker 2: with her in it. She of course, is someone that's
Speaker 2: well known, you know, for her partner, and we need
Speaker 2: to really kind of, you know, take a hard look
Speaker 2: at the death of her because this is only four
Speaker 2: years ago. It feels like a lot longer because it's
Speaker 2: been so competitive. It's just been in your algorithm just
Speaker 2: coming up and once you press one, it just they
Speaker 2: just keep coming up. And in my algorithm it's been
Speaker 2: there as well. And this is a woman who's you know,
Speaker 2: an actress whose life was you know, marked by talent controversy.
Speaker 2: You know, she's very resilient given her upbringing, the abuse
Speaker 2: that she suffered as a child, and a willingness really
Speaker 2: to kind of come forward and talk about her traumas.
Speaker 2: But in the years since her death, which is only
Speaker 2: four this is back in twenty twenty two, the tragedy
Speaker 2: has become something more on these social media platforms, as
Speaker 2: I stated, a web of theories involving Hollywood, Ellen Degeneris,
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, Sean p d Didy Comb's child trafficking, and yes,
Speaker 2: even the old Pizzagate narrative. But before we go any further,
Speaker 2: let's let's establish the official record that's out there. Back
Speaker 2: in August fifth, twenty twenty two, and hash crashed her car.
Speaker 2: It was one of those Mini Cooper's Blue one to
Speaker 2: watch a video of her zooming pass into a home
Speaker 2: in the Marvin area of Los Angeles. Now, the collision
Speaker 2: triggered a major fire, hait suffered catastrophic injuries days later.
Speaker 2: About a week later, she was declared legally dead after
Speaker 2: suffering an oxic brain injury, which is a loss of
Speaker 2: oxygen to the brain. Now, the Los Angeles County Medical
Speaker 2: Examiner corners ruled out her death was an accident caused
Speaker 2: by the inhalation thermal injuries. You know, she had a
Speaker 2: external fracture from blunt trauma was also noted so right
Speaker 2: in her chest. But her toxicology report has also been
Speaker 2: twisted online as well. It found an inactive cocaine metabolite,
Speaker 2: indicating prior use, but the coroner said there was no
Speaker 2: evidence that Hash was impaired by illicted drugs at the
Speaker 2: time of the crash. Vncentol detected later was consistent with
Speaker 2: her hospital treatment post crash, obviously and not before the wreck.
Speaker 2: Then came the video, and in this it's startling, I
Speaker 2: think for a lot of people, yourself Walter included. You're
Speaker 2: you're watching video of you know, the mini Cooper zooming
Speaker 2: about seventy five eighty miles an hour through that mar
Speaker 2: Vista neighborhood and then you know, running into a crash.
Speaker 2: And there was helicopter footage, which is what is most
Speaker 2: notable about this is that shows and Hash on a stretcher, okay,
Speaker 2: overhead covered, strapped down, and then suddenly she appears to
Speaker 2: like sit up like sits moves before she was loaded
Speaker 2: into the ambulance and and and right there you look
Speaker 2: at like, is that a body bag? And she's alive?
Speaker 2: Don't don't take her away. That image has reframed the
Speaker 2: n Hash escaping a body bag, and that is what
Speaker 2: everybody has been referring to for the last four years.
Speaker 2: But that is not what the footage shows. She was
Speaker 2: actually alive when the firefighters rescued her. She was not
Speaker 2: declared dead at the scene as is commonly understood, or
Speaker 2: she died. She was. She was. She has a patient cover,
Speaker 2: she had a sheet. This is what the ambulances actually do.
Speaker 2: They put a restraint system. And it's not a body bag. Okay.
Speaker 2: It's the this type of framing that helped turn this
Speaker 2: horrifying emergency into conspiracy, you know, thrills for I hate
Speaker 2: to say it, that's what it mostly is. So you know,
Speaker 2: the Ellen degenerous part is really what enters the conversation
Speaker 2: because of her connections to Hollywood. They were partners back
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Do you think a long time ago, do you think
Speaker 1: that Ellen ate her, that Ellen committed cannibalism on Anne Hash.
Speaker 1: Because this is the story we need to bring fok.
Speaker 2: We I'd like to bring that forward. It sounds fantastic
Speaker 2: and realistic if you it really does.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Walter, I love to feed that, but she did
Speaker 2: not feed. Yeah. And then the symbolism, I mean at
Speaker 2: the time, you know they were a couple. This was
Speaker 2: twenty two years prior. They're the most visibly openly gay
Speaker 2: couple in American entertainment, famously holding hands at award show.
Speaker 2: Et Cetera later spoke about personal and professional fallout from
Speaker 2: being associated with Ellen during an arrow when Hollywood was
Speaker 2: way less except okay, you have to think back. So
Speaker 2: decades later, Haiti's crash brought that relationship back into the
Speaker 2: forefront and into internet speculation. Some online posts have actually
Speaker 2: claimed that Anne knew compromising things about Degenerous trafficking networks,
Speaker 2: Epstein or Hollywood powerbrokers. But unfortunately, there's no verified evidence
Speaker 2: showing that Anne hash was targeted, that she was preparing
Speaker 2: to expose a criminal network, or that Degenerous had any
Speaker 2: connection to her death in any way. And there's another
Speaker 2: fact that fuels all this narrative, that is, through social media,
Speaker 2: Degenerous and her wife Portia de Rossi, by the way, attractive,
Speaker 2: moved to England just a couple of years ago after
Speaker 2: Trump won the reelection in twenty four Degenerous later said
Speaker 2: that the election influenced their decision to stay in the UK.
Speaker 2: But the timing here matters because Anne has just died
Speaker 2: four years ago. Degenerous move more than two years later.
Speaker 2: That relocation and election is the evidence and not you know,
Speaker 2: sort of a flight from a crime of killing nn
Speaker 2: hahed unfortunately. And then there's the very famous Oscar pizza. Now,
Speaker 2: anybody who's on TikTok has seen this, Okay, for those
Speaker 2: who haven't seen it. Back in twenty fourteen, Ellen de
Speaker 2: Generes hosted the Academy Awards. She hosted the ceremony and
Speaker 2: she orders a pizza and she started handing the slices
Speaker 2: around the front rows. Brad Pitt, I think guy Jennifer
Speaker 2: Lawrence is there another? Major stars are part of this.
Speaker 1: It was a famous event. Yes, absolutely, you're right.
Speaker 2: So and people have been integrating this and it was
Speaker 2: just a you know, comic moment essentially tossing out pizza
Speaker 2: for you know, really what's there. And the delivery driver
Speaker 2: was brought into the theater in Los Angeles. So years later,
Speaker 2: after the Pizzagate conspiracy took hold, some people have retroactively
Speaker 2: treated the pizza bit as a coded signal that, oh, pizzagate,
Speaker 2: and that's a leap again that there is no link. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Walter So, Pizzagate, of course, was the claim that Democrats
Speaker 2: were operating a child trafficking ring from Comet Ping Pong
Speaker 2: in DC. No victims, criminal evidence or legitimate investigation has
Speaker 2: supported that claim. Okay, legitimately as not, but it has
Speaker 2: had real world consequences when this back in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: this guy walks in into a non existent basement and
Speaker 2: fire shots inside Comet Ping Pong. And this is all
Speaker 2: a lesson this pizza reference, all the pizza references that
Speaker 2: are out there. Sure, there's some indications of that, but
Speaker 2: with regard to Ellen DeGeneres and the pizza event that
Speaker 2: happened over at the Dolby Theater in Hollywood. No, the
Speaker 2: celebrity friendship can be a celebrity friendship. You can have
Speaker 2: appearances and then let's finally hit the last part.
Speaker 1: Go now, Eddie Dragon, what about this myth or this
Speaker 1: fact that today Ellen DeGeneres is suffering from a disease
Speaker 1: and the disease she seems to be suffering from is
Speaker 1: one that you only get if you eat human flesh.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, what evidence is there that she's actually suffering
Speaker 2: from this disease?
Speaker 1: This was also I read I read, Yeah, I read
Speaker 1: it on the internet, so it must be true, it
Speaker 1: must be true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm not going to validate that at all either.
Speaker 2: She has been, like you know, out of the public
Speaker 2: eye for the last two two and a half years.
Speaker 2: So again, the Internet can speculate at any point of
Speaker 2: which there actually isn't evidence. And then unfortunately we live
Speaker 2: in this era where photos and videos can now be doctored.
Speaker 2: You don't even know what to believe half the time
Speaker 2: that actually there. But here is one that actually people
Speaker 2: have been legitimizing a lot more because you have a
Speaker 2: New York resident right here in New York City, Sean
Speaker 2: Diddy Combs. Remember him and Ellen were close. They appeared
Speaker 2: on the show together. Old clips show them joking about
Speaker 2: the parties, the p didty parties. These clips have re
Speaker 2: emerged amid the investigation and civil litigation surrounding p Diddy,
Speaker 2: but a top pro show relationship, you know, banter party talk,
Speaker 2: all this alleged criminal events, you know, the crimes, whether
Speaker 2: or not Ellen participated in them. I mean this is
Speaker 2: important because the charges and allegations directed at you know,
Speaker 2: a person like P Diddy can't be transferred to everybody
Speaker 2: who took a photo, interviewed him, or a teniary event.
Speaker 2: So you know, of course, Walter on a serious note,
Speaker 2: child exploitation and trafficking, they're real, they're horrific crimes. The
Speaker 2: failures are the powerful institutions to identify, investigate and stop
Speaker 2: abuse actually need to be reinforced. Of course, Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 2: is just a genuine example of wealthy and connected offenders.
Speaker 2: I know more of that than anybody that's probably on
Speaker 2: your program, or anybody even that you know being a
Speaker 2: recipient of that. Yeah, but when every celebrity interaction becomes proof,
Speaker 2: this is when it becomes harder, not easier, to focus
Speaker 2: on the perpetrators like Jeffrey Epstein, or the victims, or
Speaker 2: the records or the witnesses or financial trails or whatever
Speaker 2: it is that they're connected to. And Haitia's death is tragic,
Speaker 2: of course, it raises a lot of questions because the
Speaker 2: crash it's chaotic, right, the footage it's crazy. It's disturbing
Speaker 2: that eighty miles an hour through a neighborhood, and she
Speaker 2: doesn't die at the scene, she's taken in and then
Speaker 2: you know, unzipping that quote unquote body bag. And Hollywood
Speaker 2: is an industry that has repeatedly protected powerful people, of course,
Speaker 2: but the documented record says she died in an accidental
Speaker 2: crash and fire. The rest of the claims murder, secret trafficking,
Speaker 2: Alan generous relocation, pizza, Pizzagate, the celebrity code, all that
Speaker 2: is just speculation.
Speaker 1: Eddie Dragon, what's the name of your radio station.
Speaker 2: Rockof Talk rockoftalk dot com. Walter love your show. Thanks
Speaker 2: for having me.
Speaker 1: On you bet Eddie Dragon in New Mexico. Thank you
Speaker 1: for being on the other side of Midnight