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your support. All Right, one last thing. I'm not going

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to go back over this. If you want to hear

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more about the Katie Porter saga, listen to our two

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on the podcast. But the line that this congresswoman is

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running for governor said after this video dropped of her

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berating her staffer for getting into her zoom call camera

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shot in the background because the staffer was trying to

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correct something that Katie Porter said that was not true,

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and so they were recording something for like some peace deal,

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and so she wanted to stop it so they could

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retake it. So the staffer comes in behind her in

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the background and Katie Porter yells at her, out of

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my shot. Yeah. And she then put out a statement

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saying it's no secret. I hold myself and my staff

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to a high standard, and that was especially true as

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a member of Congress. I have sought to be more

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intentional in showing gratitude to my staff for their important work.

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And if you weren't aware, I wasn't. But according to

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the Washington Post, that is the same thing she said

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back in twenty twenty three when the Washington Post did

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a story about how she abuses her staff. It was

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the exact same boilerplate statement that she uses. So like,

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you know, you're a terrible boss when you have a

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standard boiler plate response when stories come out about how

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bad of a boss you are, Right, Okay, moving on.

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Do you know what today is? On this day in

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two thousand and nine, so that would be what sixteen

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years ago, right, sixteen years ago? On this day, President

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Barack Obama won the Nobel Prize, the Peace Prize, for

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what the Norwegian Nobel Committee called, quote his extraordinary efforts

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to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. On this

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day in two thousand and nine, he had been in

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office for like three months. Yeah, he got the Nobel

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Peace Prize for not actually doing anything. And then he

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proceeded to like drone strike a bunch of people all

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over the world. That's the Nobel Peace Prize winning president

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of my lifetime. Although I guess Carter did get one too,

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but I was a baby, so I don't remember that

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at all. I don't think. I think there's a there's

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a rule with the Nobel Committee that Republican presidents can

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never win. I think that's in their rule book. But

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if I am going to have to make a case

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for a Republican to win a Nobel Peace Prize, I'm

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thinking Donald Trump might get one. Oh. Actually Bill Clinton

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may have gotten one too, so yeah, so hm, oh,

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you know what, I found a loophole. I'm just thinking

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of this right now for real, Like this just came

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to me right now. I think I have a loophole

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for the Nobel Committee to give Donald Trump the Nobel

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Peace Prize for apparently brokering a ceasefire maybe long term

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peace deal we shall see between Israel and Hamas that

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Donald Trump was a Democrat, so so you could say

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that he was like he was a Democrat for more

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of his life than a report publican, and so you

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could use that as sort of an end run around

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the rule that you're not allowed to give Republicans the

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Nobel Peace Prize. So I throw that out there as

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a suggestion. You know, if the Nobel Committee, if they're

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scratching their heads, thinking, man, this is a really big achievement,

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and we really want to give it to Donald Trump,

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but he's a Republican. So we can't because of the

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rule that obviously exists. But I've never actually seen, well,

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this might be a way around it. There may be

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a loophole there. You could just say that Donald Trump

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being a former Democrat, now he is eligible. Four. Well, no,

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because Reagan was a former Democrat too. Oh well, so

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President Donald Trump says the remaining Israeli hostages in Gaza

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may be released soon. As soon as Monday. We shall see.

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I have made no secret of the act that I

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don't trust terrorists. I don't know why anybody does. I

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don't trust trust terrorists. And in the categories of terrorists,

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the crusader types are the least trustworthy. See criminals. There

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are three types of terrorists. In case you aren't aware

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of this, I learned this long ago. After nine to eleven,

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there was a woman expert on terrorism who did a

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big presentation. I think it was up at Davidson College

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at the time, or maybe she was a professor at Davidson.

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Either way, she talked about the three seas of terrorists,

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and the three seas are the criminals, the crazies, and

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the crusaders. Okay, And the difference between the criminals and

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crazies is that they both expect to live after the

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terrorist event. Okay. They are doing it for different motivations,

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but they're not trying to kill themselves in the process. Okay.

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That's the main difference, she said, or one of the

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main differences. There are others, like the criminals are trying

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to do it for money, right, there's some personal gain.

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Crazies are doing it for some irrational reason. The example

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I think she gave at the time was a true

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story of a guy who hijacked an airplane and wanted

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it diverted to some other country. And the reason that

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he wanted it diverted there was because he had seen

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a billboard, like an advertising billboard for this other country,

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and so he thought that that meant he needed to

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go hijack this plane and take it to this place

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because the billboard said to do so. Right, So not

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mentally well, but in both cases, right, they're trying to

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live through the incident. Crusaders do not. And when you're

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talking about a religious terrorist organization like Mas, which it is,

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it's inspired by the ideology. We talked with Raymond Ibrahim

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about this Islamic ideology, how it animates, how it informs,

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how there is this through line in tactics, in behavior,

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in rhetoric, in justifications. Right, there's this through line there,

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and so they cannot be reasoned with. There's nothing you

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can offer them in this world because their reward is

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in the afterlife and they don't intend to survive it.

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The highest thing that they can do is die as

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a martyr because then they get immediate entry into their

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celestial afterlife. With the really weird like sex things that

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they got going on there, like people like have you

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ever read up on like what exactly the whole seventy

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two virgin thing is. It's not just like it's not

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just like women that are there, it's like these it's

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like a really weird and very very specific like they

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don't they don't well, they don't have the normal bodily

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functions as human women. It's weird like this is what

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they're told is waiting for them. It's just like this

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constant sex machine kind of a thing. So yeah, which

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and when you read through like like what they're being offered,

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like this is what awaits you in heaven if you

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die for the cause. It really does make sense if

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you're thinking in terms of like a seventh century recruitment

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campaign for young men who have got nothing else going

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on for them. You know, it's like, hey, join our army,

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and if you die in combat, you're going to get

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this woman who like doesn't sweat, doesn't poop, doesn't pee,

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like nothing like that, and they're just gonna want to

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have sex with you forever and ever and ever all

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the time. And they're like, Okay, And if I live,

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I get some of the pillaging. You know, I get

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to do a bunch of raping and I get to

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murder a bunch of people too in the process. But

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if I die for the cause, then I'm you know,

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with these sex spots. Anyway, Trump offered this timeline yesterday

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in a phone call with the families of hostages. He

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then went on Fox News. There are a total of

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twenty Israeli hostages believed to be alive in Gaza. That's it,

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just twenty left while Hamas holds the bodies of an

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additional twenty eight Israelis. So they got twenty eight dead

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hostages and twenty living hostages, or so we are told.

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We do not know this to be true. And just

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because the Hamas Holays have agreed to this deal and

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we'll turn over these hostages within seventy two hours, doesn't

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mean they're actually going to do so. I'll believe it

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Twitter machine. It's a pete tweet, she says. I wrote

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to the Nobel Prize Committee suggesting that if they can't

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get themselves to award one to Donald Trump, then how

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about the United States State Department for its worldwide war

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and conflict resolution efforts and accomplishments. They may do something

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like that. Yeah, I think I saw somebody else make

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this point that it was that they could very was

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that an email. Yeah, here it is. This is from Ken,

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who says, I really really enjoyed the show today, sir,

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Thank you Ken. I think the Nobel Committee cannot have

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avoid the President's peace deal. However, I predict they will

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award it to a group of recipients, maybe net Yahoo,

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Donald Trump and the people of Palestine. Right. I think

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that they could do something like that. Yeah, they could

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give it to Trump along with you know Qatar, sorry cutter,

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I think it's how that's pronounced. And you know, whoever

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else are the intermediaries, whoever else was involved in the

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cobbling together of the coalition and all of that. Yeah,

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they could do a group deal, So it's not just

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Donald Trump that Yeah, that's possible. So from UH news Nation,

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it's actually well it's next Star, which owns news Nation

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and the Hill Publication. So questions remain whether longer term

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aspects of the US broker peace deal, including the disarming

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of Hamas and a different political body to govern Palestinians,

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will come to fruition, But for now, leaders across the

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globe express hope that Gaza was on the cusp of peace.

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Two years after the deadly October seventh, twenty twenty three

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Hamas incursion into Israel that triggered the war, where they

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murdered twelve hundred people and raped and pillaged their way

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through and then stole two hundred and fifty people kidnapped

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them back into Gazam, where most of them were killed.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Ntonyah, who under pressure from Trump,

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agreed to the president's twenty point plan for ending the

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war with Hamas. Trump relied on a coalition of leaders

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from Arab, Gulf and Muslim majority countries to pressure Hamas

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to also accept the deal. So, look, I know this

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is going to be something that what I'm about to

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say is not going to be believed by the people

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who just hate Donald Trump with the passion and fire

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of a billion burning suns. I get it. Okay. However,

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one of the things that Trump supporters and Trump himself

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have always said is that he does deals. And I

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agree with that. By the way, whatever personal opinions I

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have about Donald Trump, or whatever opinion I have about

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him on you know, whatever position he takes on any

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given day, on any given issue, whatever that, all of

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that's irrelevant. I watched The Apprentice, Okay, the guy does

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like to do deals. He it's and I have met

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people like him in business. They live for the deal.

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They're always on the hunt for the next deal. And

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I have no doubt believing he is like that. And

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so maybe this might be something he's actually good at doing,

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and maybe this is what the results look like. There

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is a guy named Ahmed foud Al Kati. He's a American,

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but he was born in Gaza. He's pro Palestine but

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also pro peace, anti Hamas. He is the head of

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r F Palestine, a senior Fellow with the Atlantic Council

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and a term member at the Council on Foreign Relations. Okay,

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and he's got family in Gaza that have been killed.

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He's lost like a dozen of his family in Gaza.

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But he's anti Hamas. He says, what caused Hamas to

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agree to give up its chief bargaining chip, which is

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the hostages? Right? Why do they give up the hostages

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for phase one of the deal? It was the unprecedented

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pressure against the terror group from Turkey, sorry Tokeia. Is

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how they pronounce that now Judder and Egypt. I think

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they still pronounce it Egypt for the time being. The

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Turks want sanctions relief the F thirty five stealth fighter.

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They want new F sixteens and greater cooperation with the US.

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The Kataris got the apology from Israel for that failed

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airstrike and a US commitment to Doha's national security through

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a new agreement, and in exchange, Cutter had to deliver

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the hostages, which means delivering Hamas. Egypt has been terrified

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of the specter of forced displacement of Gozans into Sinai

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and its mobilization of the Egyptian army on the country's

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eastern border, raised tensions with Israel and threatened the peace

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treaty between those two countries not to mention US foreign aid.

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So those were their incentives, Turkey, Cutter, and Egypt, they

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all had incentives that Trump was able to suss out

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to leverage against them, so they put pressure on Hamas. Okay,

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you add all that together. This meant that those three

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countries applied pressure to Hamas, which is isolated, militarily weak,

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its allies are defeated, and they really don't have any

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more options because of the military success. Also, I would

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add the military success that Israel has realized in the

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last two years, like they have obliterated Hamas's command structure.

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You still have these little basically gorilla cells that exist, right,

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but you have nowhere near the command structure that Hamas

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used to have. I mean, they wiped out like twenty

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four battalions and their leadership. There isn't anything there and

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they can't go to Hesbala because all of them are

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rolling around in wheelchairs because of the Beeper operation. Right,

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they took out all of the targets in Iran. Syria

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has been defended. They went after them, they bombed those

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sites along their border there. So like Israel's military success

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has paved the way here, Hamas is now isolated and

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Trump is able to then leverage these things that these

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other three countries want in order to get them to

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pressure Hamas. So that's what this guy is saying led

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This is why we walk. I'm seeing some breaking news.

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Judge Boasberg has now reportedly blocked Donald Trump's peace deal,

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ruling that Hamas and Israel must continue killing each other's.

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That is from C three C three, some random person

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on the Twitter machine. Okay, if the it's not accurate, Okay,

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it's just a joke, people, Hence the use of the

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rim shot. This from the Jerusalem Post. If the current

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Israel Hamas deal holds and the war is in fact over,

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I'm not like, I'm not there yet, Like I'm very

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encouraged to hear this, but I'll believe it. I'll believe

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it when I see it. When these Hamas holes release

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hostages that are still actually alive, then I'll believe it

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that they're going to release them. And when they allow

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for the recovery of the twenty eight dead hostages, then

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I'll believe that they will allow for the release of them.

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If they're going to stop fighting, and they stop fighting,

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then I will believe that they are stopping the fight.

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Do I And even if they do that, do I

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believe that that this is an end of the war.

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I do not. There is no there is no off

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ramp here for this ideology. Hamas has been very clear

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and the Islamic ideology is very clear. I have it.

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What we're seeing I suspect is a little thing called

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the Hudna Hudna, Hudna or Hudna, named after a village

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outside Mecca. It means ceasefire or truce, and it came

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six years after Mohammed and his followers abandoned Mecca for

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Yathrib today's Medina. Okay, this move, known as the hidra

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or emigration, is of enormous significance for the classical understanding

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of jihad, inasmuch as it sets a pattern of retreat

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followed by regrouping and re arming, which permits an attack

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on the territory previously left behind. Okay, this is a

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red in fact, don't take my word for it. Here

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is Abu Baker Abed, a quote unquote journalist for a

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website called drop site News, which is the a propaganda

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arm for Hamas. And here's what he tweeted out after

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news of this came down, that there was this deal

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that was agreed to quote, I understand your frustration, but

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there will be no disarmament. Believe me. It's not like

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what you think. It's a pause to rest, that's what's happening.

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It's a hudna, that's what they are doing. It's a

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pause so they can rest, they can regroup, and then

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they can attack again. Back to the Jerusalem Post. The

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final sequence to end the war was completely different from

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both Israeli and Tamas position at other key points, such

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as summer of twenty twenty four and then early twenty

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twenty five, when the war might have ended. Qatar, Turkey

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and US President Donald Trump brought new levels of pressure

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to bear on both sides. A scorecard of concessions, wins

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for both sides, losses for both sides, and ties for

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both sides shows that both are making concessions now that

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they did not make in prior rounds, though ultimately Israel

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has more of the upper hand in terms of leverage.

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Israel conceded on holding its fire. While this was little discussed.

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Israel actually stopped shooting and bombing on Saturday, okay, and

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they got nothing in return for that. In fact, this

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situation of Israel holding its fire for nothing concrete and

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only the promise or possibility of a deal lasted for

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five days until early Thursday morning. Going even further, if

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the first hostages come home on Monday, Israel will have

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given Hamas nine days without being attacked before receiving the

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first hostage back. In all of the past negotiations for

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the hostages release, Israel's position was that it would not

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hold its fire until Hamas signed a deal to return

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the hostages on a specific timetable, with the timetable usually

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starting almost immediately after the fighting was halted. Okay, So

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Israel agreed to stop fighting or stop firing on Hamas

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stop attacking while Hamas was still deciding whether or not

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to agree to the deal. That was a change. Hamas

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conceded on giving up all of the hostages and doing

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so all at once. In the other rounds of negotiations,

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Hamas leaders either wanted to hold on to some of

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the hostages as an insurance policy against being killed, or

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to force a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which we

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have all known, right, I mean they use their own

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people for human shields. Of course, they're going to use

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the Israelis for human shields and bargaining chips, right, But

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that changed when Katar Turkey in Egypt all ordered Hamas

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to release all the hostages and to do it all

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at once, for just a partial Gaza withdrawal, along with

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general promises from Trump that he would guarantee Israel would

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not restart the war. So that's what Trump has promised Hamas,

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that he's going to guarantee Israel won't resume fighting as

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soon as they get their twenty live hostages back. Right.

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And by the way, I don't believe there's still twenty

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of them alive. Again. I hope I'm wrong. I hope

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I'm wrong. But here's the thing when dealing with Hamas,

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they're liars, and so the fact that they say there

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were twenty alive doesn't mean there were actually twenty still alive.

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Israel has killed most of Hamas's leaders over time, the

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chiefs in Gaza Yahya Sinhwar, Mohammed Dieth. They also whacked

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Mohammed Sinhwar and a lot of the other top Hamas

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officials like Marwan Issa Ismael Hania. Four out of five

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Hamas brigade commanders and almost all twenty four battalion commanders

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were also killed. Over the last two years. The main

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survivors in Gaza are Gaza City Brigade commander Azadeen al Hadad,

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who is now Hamas's military chief, along with senior Hamas

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official Raid Sad. Despite promises to expel all of the

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Hamas leadership, it appears that the small number of senior

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Hamas commanders who have survived the war until now will

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be allowed to remain in Gaza, though it is still

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possible that Israel may seek some symbolic expulsion of some

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officials where they will be hunted down and kill I

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the Jerusalem Post doing sort of a running side by

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side comparison. You know, who made what concessions, who came

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out ahead, that kind of thing. On this Israeli Hamas

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quote cease fire, which I don't know if it's an actually,

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I mean, I guess it's a ceasefire, but it's not

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the end of the war. It's been going on for

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fourteen hundred years. It's not going to end because of this.

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Israel conceded on ending the war without having fully disarmed Hamas.

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This is Israel's largest concession long term. Right, this was

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one of the things they said. They had two objectives, right,

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get all the hostages back live and dead and to

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annihilate Hamas. That was the initial promise war Aims offered

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by Benjamin Netanyahu. And while Hamas has been decimated, true,

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they have not been annihilated. All of Hamas has not

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been wiped out. Hamas's military numbers range somewhere in the

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two thousand to twenty five hundred hardcore fighters range. So

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two thousand to twenty five hundred hardcore fighters, there's another

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twenty thousand or so that are not so well trained

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but potential fighters. And then it says to support, it's

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got a support base in Gaza of around seven hundred

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thousand Palestinians. Okay, they have seven hundred thousand Palestinians who

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are so themselves with the movement, either by tribe or

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by ideology. Now, the good news is that all twenty

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four of Hamas's battalions were already militarily defeated back in

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August of twenty twenty four, and so what remains are

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loosely aligned small gorilla warfare cells. Okay, there are still

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a lot of dangerous people in Gaza, and they could

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grow and they could reconstitute themselves if they are not

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properly neutralized. And like this is what's going to be

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coming later, is this, you know, international force, the technocratic leadership,

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and like all of these other parts that are a

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part of Trump's plan. There are all these other things,

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and we have no idea if they're going to work.

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But right now, like like I'm I'm hopeful to take

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the win, but again I'm not taking a win that

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sound like mine take, but like I'm not seeing this

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as as a positive, tangible success until Hamas actually makes

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good on the thing that they have been saying they

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would not do, which is to release the live hostages. Now,

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part of this is also a swap, you know, like

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Israel is turning over I think the number I saw

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was like two thousand or something quote unquote prisoners. And

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these are like some of the hardest core terrorists that

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Israel has in custody and they're getting they're releasing them

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back into Gaza in exchange for the for these prisoners,

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or for the hostages rather the Israeli hostages. So we'll

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see how that turns out. In fact, I think one

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of them is one of these terrorists that Israel has

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agreed to turn over, is like this guy, this guy

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is such a bad ombre that they did not release

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him in a previous swap, even though it meant I

474
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,039
think this was it may have been part of the

475
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:24,559
the attempted swap with the IDF soldier. Uh Gilliad. I'm trying.

476
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,880
I'm drawing a blank on his last name. This was

477
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,680
the poor guy that got kidnapped, dragged back into Gaza

478
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,839
and then murdered. And then the guy you know, comes

479
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,960
to the window. The murderer comes to the window, and

480
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,759
everybody's in the streets celebrating the bloodlust, you know, yay,

481
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,960
he killed the Jews and all this and uh and he,

482
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160
you know, holds up his hands out the window and

483
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,160
they're just dripping blood from this kid, this IDF guy.

484
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:56,160
And that's why, by the way, whenever you see the

485
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,799
Palestine the you know, the the pro Palestine crowd, you know,

486
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,680
with their tentifaddas marching around and they have these red handprints,

487
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,480
that's what that's a reference to. It's to the murder

488
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,319
of that soldier. That's the iconography that they have adopted.

489
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,640
So no, I don't trust them. They're terrorists, okay, or

490
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:22,960
terrorst sympathizers. So Hamas conceded on a partial Israeli withdrawal.

491
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,759
This is Hamas's largest concession long term, because the Israelis

492
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,880
are not going completely out of the Gaza strip. They've

493
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,799
got these different lines. If you looked at the plan

494
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
that Trump released, they're like these different lines drawn, and

495
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,759
so they're like, Okay, in this phase, you're going to

496
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:40,519
go back here. You know, you're going to fall back

497
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,960
to this position because Israel will never allow there to

498
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,599
not be some sort of a buffer zone any longer.

499
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,039
Like you're not gonna like you're going to have a

500
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,839
good bit of distance, so we can have these different

501
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,160
zones policed by different you know, international forces or something whatever.

502
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,920
There is all also a wide range of uncertain diplomatic issues.

503
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,240
The Jerusalem Post says, who's going to run Gaza politically

504
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,760
regardless of what the ceasefire deal says on paper about

505
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,639
the expected Gaza International Transitional Authority or the gi TA

506
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:20,880
or the GETA. How much will the get how much

507
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,360
will GETA the US, the West Arab Allies, Palestinian Authority,

508
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Israel right, how much are they going to be able

509
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,800
to talk the seven hundred thousand Gazans that are associated

510
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,599
with Hamas out of supporting Hamas how does that work?

511
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,840
How do you de radicalize seven hundred thousand people in

512
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,280
Gaza that have grown up multi generally generationally watching you know,

513
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,679
morning cartoons, watching children's programming, being taught in their schools

514
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,800
that there is no higher calling than to murder Jews?

515
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,320
How do you do that? Right? Like they did, They

516
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,280
did knockoffs of Barney the Purple Dinosaur guy singing about

517
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
murdering Jews, and they were teaching this to their children

518
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400
and they've been doing it for like twenty five years.

519
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,079
So like, where do you, like, where do you even

520
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,400
begin on that deradicalization? So we'll see how long is

521
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,559
it going to take to make political progress against Tomas,

522
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,440
how long will it take to rebuild These are all

523
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,000
still questions that have to be decided now. The process,

524
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:33,760
real quick is that if the government approves the ceasefire,

525
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,480
then you got a twenty four hour period will commence,

526
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,000
during the which the decision will be able to be

527
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,840
appealed to the High Court of Justice in Israel. Once

528
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,440
the period ends, Hamas will have seventy two hours and

529
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,039
that puts it on a Monday expected deadline for the

530
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:54,480
release of the living hostages. All right, that'll do it

531
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,119
for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I

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537
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,599
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