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Speaker 3: What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Always a pleasure, always a blessing, talking ball

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with your case. So let's start off with a little recruiting, right,

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So how would you evaluate? You know, we got a

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lot of new facers, the transferportal players and then the

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true freshmen that are coming in return. Missionaries as well.

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From what you've seen thus far from the newcomers, the

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new faces, the transperportal freshmen, the transported players, the freshmen,

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and then the return missionaries, what has stood out to

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Speaker 3: I think, first and foremost, you can go down the

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list of transfers and probably expect most of those guys

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to contribute right away. You know, we'll see how the

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depth chart along the offensive line irons itself out. But

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I expect at least a few of those guys up

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front to be starters. I know they brought in three,

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but I would expect at least one or two of

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those guys to be starters. And then beyond that, you've

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also got a ton of brand new true freshmen that

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are already enrolled and participating in spring camp. I think

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that's become a little different from BYU classes in the past.

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Perhaps like four or five years ago, I would say probably,

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you know, seventy to ninety percent of those signees would

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leave for two years and serve missions. But now we've

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seen it the last couple of years where it's about

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a fifty to fifty split, and that's the case this year,

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so about half of BYU's record class is enrolled, and

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of the signings that will play right away, all but

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one Antonio Johnson, are enrolled and participating in spring camp.

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So I look at whenever you're trying to see where

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a true freshman can find playing time, it's a matter

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of not only talent, but opportunity as well. Right, So

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if Jake Resloff was on the roster last year, then

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bear Bachmeier doesn't have his breakout freshman campaign, assuming you

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stays healthy. So as far as opportunity goes, I think

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the opportunity at wide receiver is wide open given the

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departures of Chase Roberts and Parker Kingston, and then pair

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that alongside some of the really talented players that you

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brought into the room, namely Jaron Poula, Legend Glask or

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Terrence Serry on guys like that. So historically, really talented

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wide receivers have been able to find their way to

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the field early in their BYU careers. And so I'm

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keeping an eye on that room in particular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a Rod He's very hesitant to talk

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about the newcomers because the transfer portal, right, and the

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tampering tamper gate in provo. When you heard a Rod

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state that earlier this week, he doesn't want to. He's

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reluctant to, you know, to to highlight. Let's actually tune

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into it. Let's listen. What did he exactly say about

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potential tampering of his young rising stars.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean going tracts twice, but there's a lot

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of good players in that room, and those guys will

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step up. I'm very confident about that. And you know,

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Casper did some good things today, and we've got some

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some young players that are doing some good things. I'm

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a little reluctant to comment about young guys though, because

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then people will start tampering with them before before the

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next portal windows. So I'm just gonna not I'm not

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gonna say nice things about the young guys anymore.

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Speaker 1: He goes on, like I think it was Sean Walker said, well,

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you know there isn't a spring portal wing. He's like, yeah,

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that's right. But when you heard that, Casey, what was

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your reaction, what did you ponder? What did you think about?

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Speaker 3: Well, the transfer portal has taken another thing away, apparently.

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credit I think historically he has done a pretty good

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job of singling out players and giving some real information

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from his interviews. It's not just coach speak. So I

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think if you look back at his track record, you

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know he spoke very highly of l. J. Martin as

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a true freshman. He spoke very highly a bear. He

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has given some real tidbits throughout the years. So if

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that's another thing that the transfer portal has taken away,

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then that's a shame. But it's a real threat.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much teams are tampering because of

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media quotes. I don't know that, but tampering is a

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real thing, and especially when you have a really talented class,

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you'd like to keep them around and keep them in

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the program. So I understand the sentiment. But there is

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no spring transfer portal windows, so it's gonna be a

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while before teams can start tampering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I thought it was gonna say. I

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know it was a little chung at tongue in cheek,

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but I thought it was funny. Nonetheless, I mean, look,

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the young bucks are very, very talented, as you mentioned,

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and these new faces that are kind of on the rise,

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We've delved into it a little bit today and it's

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exciting times to be a Cougar. From a talent level standpoint,

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how would you compare the talent the depth present day

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on this Cougar football roster to when Kalani started back

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in twenty sixteen or even and let's say twenty twenty

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or twenty twenty one, like you'd had some good NFL

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guys there draft picks. I mean, there's a reason why

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you you won eleven and ten games, respectively. How does

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the roster maybe compare to that initial era that and

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly compared to the start of the Kalanie it's

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elevated far above that, you know it. There was a

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and that led to the twenty sixteen season. But once

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those seniors graduated, you know, we saw what was the

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twenty seventeen season. I mean, you could say there were

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maybe some cultural problems on that team and things like that,

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but at the end of the day, there was just

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a talent deficiency and that led to, you know, one

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of the worst seasons of the last fifty years, so

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byus in a much better spot, I think, especially depth wise.

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better and better, the depth will get better and better.

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coveted three star guys that had a bunch of offers

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that are second, three string, third string, or even four string.

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years ago. As you mentioned in twenty twenty and twenty

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guys that are still in the NFL today, But once

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nearly as deep as this roster is today. I think

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there was a quote from Mario Christobal at Oregon when

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he left for Miami about, you know, his decision to

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I feel okay about leaving Oregon because that program is

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in a good spot. The most talented players are on

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the roster are young guys, and I think looking at

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this roster today, you can say something similar about BYU's roster.

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the most part, a lot of BYU's most talented guys

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are still really young and just matriculating into the program.

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If you pair that alongside some of the you know,

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proven stars that are gonna have you know, NFL futures

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like LJ. Martin and you know guys like k dou Lave,

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I think that's what's really exciting is the momentum continue

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to build and they can take maybe even another incremental

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step this year, which will be hard to do. They

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did go eleven and one, but there's the potential to

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do that and then take some of this young talent

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in the program and just to can continue building on

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it in twenty seven and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Casey Lund quiz BAYU Sports illustrated here on your Utah

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of Utah Dentalprosifutah dot com. What other storylines have you

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been maybe addressing on your platform and reading into during Campkolani.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, as you know, we haven't had too many

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opportunities to see things in person. But with that being said,

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I think just the progression of Bear Bachmeier has been

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just probably second to the wide receiver rotation, but that's

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right up there at the top. Bear played so well

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as a true freshman. But if you can compare where

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he was against Georgia Tech to where he started against

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Portland State or even that Stanford game where he was

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just so clearly, you know, doing things that were limited

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within BYU's offense, it was very measured what Aaron Rodgers

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was giving him. Now that he has a full year

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of starting experience and a full off season, he looks,

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you know, a little slimmer. To me, I think he's

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changed his body a little bit. And I'm really interested

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to see the progression of Bear Bachmeyer because last year,

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in those games against Texas Tech, the offense was the deficiency, right,

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And I think if bear Bachmeyer is able to make

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some key improvements in certain areas, I think bau has

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a really really good chance to repeat last year's success,

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if not built on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, many like the off season conversation for regarding Bear.

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It centered around two touch subjects in my opinion, the

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body mass, you know, the the you know, they want

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him to maybe trim up. Some people want him to

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trim up and or lean out rather you can still

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stay like in that two thirty five range whatever, he's

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maybe playing at two forty, But it's got to be

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muscle mass, not the atiposts. I will say, like, when

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you're running as much as he is, you need a

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little bit of protection and sometimes a little bit of

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ada post tissue around them joints. It does aid and

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support in that, and also a little weight game. You know,

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he sometimes has throwers. You can gain a little bit

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of power, but you always want muscle more than fat obviously.

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And then the other one was like just arm strength, right,

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just arm strength in general. They just want to see

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elevated arm strength and where is that gonna come from?

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much improvement do you think you're gonna see in those

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two arenas from Bear in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the first one, I think we've seen progress already.

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two months. Really the gains are mostly made between springball

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So I think he's well on track there. As far

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little more accuracy. And if he can do that and

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you pair it up with you know, his ability to

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take care of the football make those intermediate throws, then

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you could have a complete quarterback alongside one of the

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best running backs in the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry's listed right down the roster six two two

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thirty and so that's where he currently sits per the roster.

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That's not always accurate, but that's where he currently sits.

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So he may have trimmed up a little bit. Let's

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get into a recruiting news and note, I know there's

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like not a whole lot going on on the recruiting

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front with new acquisitions, but there was a PWO that

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committed two way athlete, James Clifford committed as a PWO.

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Tell us a little bit about James Clifford and his position,

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his impact. What do you got for us on that front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, James Clifford is interesting because, as you know, the

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walk on spots have kind of dried up in college football.

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Where there used to be forty opportunities per roster, now

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depending on the school, it could be you know, anywhere

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from ten to twenty. So whereas we used to see

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PWO classes that range from ten to fifteen guys, now

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it's you know, two or three. So the PWO offers

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that go out today are a little more significant than

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they used to be. So he is a California native.

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He was a first team All All Region or All

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Conference selection on both sides of the football. So he

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played tight end in defensive end. It's unclear to me

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where he's going to play at BYU. I think depending

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on the situation at those positions, he could probably end

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up at either one. But he is the younger brother

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of David Clifford, who was on By's roster in twenty

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twenty four and then he left to serve a mission.

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If you remember David Clifford, David actually turned down scholarship

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offers to walk on at BYU. He had scholar offers

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from Arizona, San Jose State, a handful of Mountain West schools,

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and he opted to walk on at b YU instead.

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So BYU family. He's a dual sport athlete, plays basketball,

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kind of an interesting player. He's six foot seven, so

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huge frame, a lot you can do with that, and

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he's had a lot of success in California. So there

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is still a kind of a need to fill out

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every spot on the roster. Colony has talked about that

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since he got to BYU that an important part of

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developing depth is recruiting every spot that's available. So interested

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to see where he ends up. But as far as

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pwo's go, I think he's up there is one of

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the more promising ones. He had opportunities to walk on

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at Oregon and USC and pick BYU.

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Speaker 1: Love that great breakdown from Casey lundquiz Casey we invite

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Speaker 1: And one last thing, who's you're projected MVP of Springball

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on the defense and m VP of Springball on the

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offense right now? I know it's early. I know it's early,

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but you're maybe way too early prediction on those MVP spots.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a little bit, a little bit more of a

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difficult answer for springball because not everyone's playing, But I

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would say on offense, I'll I'll give the EA the answer.

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I'll just say Bear. I think I think we are

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going to see a lot of progress from Bear. And

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while it's probably going to take some time to get

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dialed in with a brand new group of wide receivers,

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I think I think Bear is gonna show that he

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still has a lot of room to grow, and if

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there's potential on bear Bachmeier, I do believe he's the

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kind of kid that's gonna find it. He just works

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so hard and he stays humble, and he's he's coachable.

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So I really like his chances to progress compared to

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where he was last year on the defensive side. Man,

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I'll say, Paula taus Otsawala, I think he just takes

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another step this year. I think he's an NFL safety

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and he made so much progress from his freshman year

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to his sophomore year and now is his third year

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in the program, second year as a starter. I just

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think you say, you see Faulla taus Otawalla start to

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look like a day one or two draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Love it, Casey lunnguage ladies and gentlemen, Thanks for hopping on, Casey.

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We'll catch up at the end soon. We'll see that

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at practice and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks guys, have a good one. There you go.

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any commentary, Cameron Jensen, anything that stood out to you

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from our conversation with Casey Lundquish.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we talked about it a little bit earlier.

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Is just the development of Bear. I think we're all

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excited to see that he has the poise, he has

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the confidence. We saw things that we don't see from

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a true freshman. I'm seeing what does that develop into

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year two, because that's not normal. And so his arm strength,

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if that improves, if he can make those throws over

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twenty five yards, wow, that's a deadly combo. And I

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think he should lean up a little bit to make

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him a little more mobile. I think towards the end

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of the year he saw him get banged up with

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the ankle and that really affected the way he likes

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to play.

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Speaker 3: So I like that.

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Speaker 5: And obviously the wide receiver and wide open you got

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some young guys filling those gaps it's exciting to see.

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But if that comes together, bear with these new core

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wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: I like where we're at.

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Speaker 1: He did drag like three uts into the end show

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at that size, you know what I mean? So yeah,

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you know he we gotta give him some credit on that.

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You know, we don't want to lean him up too much,

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you know, not too much, right.

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Speaker 3: Not too much?

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Speaker 1: You want to what's up? What's want? What's away?

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Speaker 5: Five? I think for getting a little more mobile, so

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like to twenty five. Yeah, yeah, it could be a

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little more muscle mass in there.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's Do you think he was two

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thirty last year?

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Speaker 5: It looked like a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 1: Man, I thought he was like too, I thought it was.

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Speaker 5: Two forty, even pushing over to forty five, just how

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he saw.

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Speaker 1: Him move and it looked like it's a big dude.

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It looked like two forty. I mean, you know what

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two forty looks like.

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Speaker 5: I know it. You were like, to forty, that's that's

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two forty.

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Speaker 1: You're exciting, You're like, you're two forty.

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Speaker 5: That's a two forty guy.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what I did. That's what I played at Man.

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Speaker 1: Forty you're looking at like the caps and legs, the

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bodies of me, Like that's a two forty two thirty.

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Speaker 5: I'm like that, Yeah, that's what That's what you want

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people to think. But especially after all those meals.

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Speaker 1: Man, you're you know, you know, there's a you know,

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you get it. You get injured in games, you know,

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and get a little dinged up, and you're not doing

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as much cardio during the week.

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Speaker 5: You're season went on. I think he put on a

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few extra It's every week he seemed to be getting

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just a little bit bigger, bigger. I'm like, Bear, we

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gotta slow that down a little bit. Then he hurt

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his ankle that but no, it's you do want to

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be big, you know, because he is going to run

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to be able to take hits. But I would have

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liked to see him a little more mobile. But again

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he had an ankle injury that he had against Texas

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text so but yeah, I like that combo. If you

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could lose a little bit, let's still stay big man.

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